Re: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory namespaces

2004-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
I don't use ConfigurationFactory but it's definitely useful as a central 
place to configure an application. I think we could even push the 
concept a bit further, after all, the configuration descriptor read by 
ConfigurationFactory *is* a configuration, it's even a file based 
configuration that should be automatically reloaded when the file is 
changed. So, what about the following ideas:

- remove the namespace handling
- make ConfigurationFactory implement FileConfiguration (it already has 
the set/getBasePath() and setGetFileName() methods, load() is easy to 
implement with the current code and there is no need to implement save() 
since it's read only)

- add a composite element to load another composite configuration 
descriptor

- not sure about this one, but ConfigurationFactory and 
CompositeConfiguration could maybe be merged...

Emmanuel Bourg
Eric Pugh wrote:

Simplicity I think is always a good idea..  I don't use it..  I will say, I
am not too keen on the ConfiguraitonFactory anyway...  I think I made a hash
of things when first writing it...
Eric

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel Bourg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:52 PM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory  namespaces
While reviewing ConfigurationFactory I stumbled on the namespace logic,
may I ask who is actually using it ? It looks like an unnecessary
complexity to me, imho it's easier to have several configuration
descriptors rather than a single namespaced descriptor.
What do you think ?
Emmanuel Bourg


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  Revision  ChangesPath
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  Index: INSTALL.txt
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  retrieving revision 1.4
  retrieving revision 1.5
  diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5
  --- INSTALL.txt   21 Jan 2004 15:57:25 -  1.4
  +++ INSTALL.txt   21 Oct 2004 08:27:24 -  1.5
  @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 GNU AutoConf
 A Java Platform 2 compliant SDK
   
  -First of all you need to build the configure program with:
  +When building from CVS sources you need to build the configure program with:
   
  sh support/buildconf.sh
   (Note it is possible to replace sh by any compatible shell like bash, ksh).
  @@ -20,6 +20,11 @@
   
 JAVA_HOME=/usr/java
 export JAVA_HOME
  +  ./configure
  +
  +or (when using gcj (use fastjar for jar))
  +  JAVAC=gcj; export JAVAC
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 ./configure
   
   If your operating system is supported, configure will go thru cleanly,
  
  
  

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Re: Cache

2004-10-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
We're using it relatively successfully in ActiveMath. I can put you in 
contact with the knowledgeable person, if wished.
I think there was discussions of a release about two months ago

paul
Le 21 oct. 04, à 06:45, matthew.hawthorne a écrit :
John Lucky wrote:
Have any of you used Cache from Commons Sendbox? The API documentation
built from JavaDocs is not very helpful.  I'd love to get some
guidance how to use the Cache propertly.

I've never used it, but from what I've seen on the list, it isn't very 
actively used or developed.

You may want to consider using something like ehcache instead:
http://ehcache.sourceforge.net/

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RE: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Eric Pugh
I know it feels like a chicken and an egg sort of problem...  One of the
historical aspects of commons is that half the code came from other
projects, and half started from scratch.  At least for the code that came
from other projects meant that they already had committers involved,
facilitating access.  And those started from scratch where started by people
involved in Commons already.

I always recommend that someone pick up one or two projects to be involved
with.  That way, as traction is lost on one, progress can be made on the
other, and you don't get too siloed...

I am sure that with a periond of involvement the demonstrates his abilities
and that he gets the Apache Way that he will gain access.  We just all
need to get to know him!

Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:26 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit


 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:14:33 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Brad is working full time on feedparser and you're essentially telling
  him he can't get CVS access until its 1.0. How are we supposed to GET it
  to 1.0 it he can't get CVS access?
 

 That's certainly not clear from the email history.  For example, you
 could help this cause a lot if you mentioned (in your CVS commit
 messages) which one were applied because Brad did them instead of you.
  Nobody can tell that he did *any* of the work.

  Do you see the problem here?
 
  I think the issue is that right now for the jakarta sandbox if you give
  Brad access then you're giving him access to a number of other projects.
  He doesn't want access to other projects he just wants access
 to FeedParser.
 

 The deeper issue is that you seem to expect Apache to work like
 SourceForge, which it doesn't.  Committer access is earned (based on
 demonstrated contributions), not requested -- and it's voted on by
 other committers (in this particular case, those who commit to Jakarta
 Commons projects), not granted to non-current-committers simply
 because of asking.

 The fact that jakarta-commons-sandbox is all under the control of a
 single set of karma is an unfortunate fact of our current CVS
 implementation, but it makes absolutely no difference to the case.
 Any prospective Commons committer who couldn't be trusted to play by
 the rules shouldn't be a committer on *any* Apache project.  On the
 other hand, granting sandbox-wide or commons-wide (which happens when
 sandbox projects get promoted) karma is a key tool in increasing the
 community of active developers on individual packages, because it
 reduces the barrier to jump in and help.

 
 
  Kevin
 
 Craig

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RE: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory namespaces

2004-10-21 Thread Eric Pugh
Re: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory  namespacesI agree with everything
excelpt the last one, merging the two..  CompositeConfiguration is a very
simple holder for configurations.  You can easily use it programatically for
example.

However, ConfigurationFactory brings a lot more with it..  Including with
what you propose the ability to reload itself..   Something to think about
is that if ConfigurationFactory is going to start reloading itself, then
maybe we need to think about how we are going to bolt in out event handling
stuff.

On a related note, now that Vector has been removed, and you have tossed in
a bunch of small features and stuff that had been sitting around.  Should we
think about a 1.1 release?  I know, it seems soon, but...  Release
early/release often...

Eric
  -Original Message-
  From: Emmanuel Bourg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:45 AM
  To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
  Subject: Re: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory  namespaces


  I don't use ConfigurationFactory but it's definitely useful as a central
  place to configure an application. I think we could even push the
  concept a bit further, after all, the configuration descriptor read by
  ConfigurationFactory *is* a configuration, it's even a file based
  configuration that should be automatically reloaded when the file is
  changed. So, what about the following ideas:

  - remove the namespace handling

  - make ConfigurationFactory implement FileConfiguration (it already has
  the set/getBasePath() and setGetFileName() methods, load() is easy to
  implement with the current code and there is no need to implement save()
  since it's read only)

  - add a composite element to load another composite configuration
  descriptor

  - not sure about this one, but ConfigurationFactory and
  CompositeConfiguration could maybe be merged...

  Emmanuel Bourg



  Eric Pugh wrote:



   Simplicity I think is always a good idea..  I don't use it..  I will
say, I
   am not too keen on the ConfiguraitonFactory anyway...  I think I made a
hash
   of things when first writing it...
  
   Eric
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Emmanuel Bourg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:52 PM
  To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
  Subject: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory  namespaces
  
  
  While reviewing ConfigurationFactory I stumbled on the namespace logic,
  may I ask who is actually using it ? It looks like an unnecessary
  complexity to me, imho it's easier to have several configuration
  descriptors rather than a single namespaced descriptor.
  
  What do you think ?
  
  Emmanuel Bourg


Re: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory namespaces

2004-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Eric Pugh wrote:
Re: [configuration] ConfigurationFactory  namespacesI agree with everything
excelpt the last one, merging the two..  CompositeConfiguration is a very
simple holder for configurations.  You can easily use it programatically for
example.
Even if CompositeConfiguration had a persistence mechanism we could 
still use it programatically independently of any configuration file. 
I'm not convinced this is a good idea yet, I just wanted to throw it 
there and discuss it.

However, ConfigurationFactory brings a lot more with it..  Including with
what you propose the ability to reload itself..   Something to think about
is that if ConfigurationFactory is going to start reloading itself, then
maybe we need to think about how we are going to bolt in out event handling
stuff.
I haven't really started studying the event handling yet. What are the 
needs ? Notify about properties added, changed or removed ? Notify about 
configurations reloaded ? Should we trigger a single event with a list 
of all the properties modified, or an event per property changed ? The 
design choices of the [event] component in the sandbox might help us in 
implementing this feature.

On a related note, now that Vector has been removed, and you have tossed in
a bunch of small features and stuff that had been sitting around.  Should we
think about a 1.1 release?  I know, it seems soon, but...  Release
early/release often...
Hmmm once I land INIConfiguration why not.
Emmanuel Bourg
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[configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Ricardo Gladwell
Hi All,
I recently noticed the addition of the ConfigurationException 
ConfigurationRuntimeException exception classes. The API now throws a 
mixture of both of these. As I mentioned earlier, I'm still concerned 
with throwing a RuntimeException in the API.

Currently, ConfigurationRuntimeException are used to signal that an 
unrecoverable error has occured in the underlying data access layer 
(i.e. it wraps an SQLException when an error occurs in the database 
layer, or an FileException in the file i/o layer, etc). I would argue 
that we should instead use the nestable ConfigurationException to nest 
exceptions thrown when reading/writing to the underlying data access 
API. All methods that potentially access data should declare that they 
throw a ConfigurationException (which is nearly all the method 
declartions in the Configuration interface).

Runtime exceptions can be catastrophic especially for applications that 
aren't expecting them (and, since they aren't declared in the class 
interface or the javadoc, there is no reason for people to expect them). 
They can cause whole applications to crash when they could otherwise 
have handled or ignored the exception, or simply exited gracefully.

I can understand why people would want to throw runtime exceptions 
instead of regular exceptions during application initialisation when the 
config API is normally used. After all, if you are missing important 
configuration information you probably want to report this error, 
However, there are also many cases where I can imagine you would want to 
ignore configuration exceptions, for example, when reading configuration 
information that is not mandatory to execute an application.

Someone else mentioned that one of the reasons that the configuration 
interface does not declare any exceptions is that it would make code too 
messy catching exceptions. However, I do not agree that this is a 
sufficient reason to not declare thrown exceptions, for the following 
reasons:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/exceptions/runtime.html
Kind regards,
-- Ricardo Gladwell
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About MavenTagLibrary

2004-10-21 Thread A Leg
Hi
I don't succeed to find in CVS MavenTagLibrary.java
corresponding to
org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary
What's happen to this class ?
Andre
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Re: [configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Ricardo,
Ricardo Gladwell wrote:
Hi All,
I recently noticed the addition of the ConfigurationException 
ConfigurationRuntimeException exception classes. The API now throws a 
mixture of both of these. As I mentioned earlier, I'm still concerned 
with throwing a RuntimeException in the API.
Currently ConfigurationException is only thrown when loading and saving 
a configuration.

Runtime exceptions are throw in:
- XMLConfiguration() when the XML APIs are missing 
(ConfigurationRuntimeException). This case is quite rare but I don't 
mind using a checked exception here, the other constructors throw a 
ConfigurationException.

- PropertiesConfiguration.unescapeJava(String) when a malformed unicode 
value is found (ConfigurationRuntimeException). This should not throw an 
exception, I would drop the character from the string and log a warning. 
However this happens only on loading the configuration, this may be 
assimilated to a parsing exception when loading an XMLConfiguration.

- JNDIConfiguration.getKeys() when a NamingException occurs 
(ConfigurationRuntimeException). Let's make it consistent with 
DatabaseConfiguration and just log the error.

- In Configuration/DataConfiguration getters when the property is 
incompatible with the requested type (ConversionException). This is 
documented.

- For unsupported write operations in read only configurations like 
JNDIConfiguration and the o.a.c.c.web configurations 
(UnsupportedOperationException). This is documented too. Should we just 
log an error ?

- For missing properties (NoSuchElementException) if 
throwExceptionOnMissing is set. It's unavoidable for the primitive 
getters if no default value is provided.

Let me know if I missed an exception.

Currently, ConfigurationRuntimeException are used to signal that an 
unrecoverable error has occured in the underlying data access layer 
(i.e. it wraps an SQLException when an error occurs in the database 
layer, or an FileException in the file i/o layer, etc). I would argue 
that we should instead use the nestable ConfigurationException to nest 
exceptions thrown when reading/writing to the underlying data access 
API. All methods that potentially access data should declare that they 
throw a ConfigurationException (which is nearly all the method 
declartions in the Configuration interface).
I'm not fond of this. It only affects the configurations using an 
unreliable communication channel to access the properties, that's 
JNDIConfiguration and DatabaseConfiguration, the most widely used 
configurations are file based and not affected by this issue, why 
annoying their users ? Also this may prevent us from making 
Configurations implement the Map interface, I still want to try this.

Runtime exceptions can be catastrophic especially for applications that 
aren't expecting them (and, since they aren't declared in the class 
interface or the javadoc, there is no reason for people to expect them). 
They can cause whole applications to crash when they could otherwise 
have handled or ignored the exception, or simply exited gracefully.
I agree
I can understand why people would want to throw runtime exceptions 
instead of regular exceptions during application initialisation when the 
config API is normally used. After all, if you are missing important 
configuration information you probably want to report this error, 
However, there are also many cases where I can imagine you would want to 
ignore configuration exceptions, for example, when reading configuration 
information that is not mandatory to execute an application.
If a property is not mandatory a default value should always be 
specified, this eliminates the NoSuchElementException from the problem. 
Now what should we do when a ConversionException occurs ? If a default 
value is provided, we may want to return it instead of throwing the 
exception, this could be configured with a 
throwExceptionOnIncompatibleProperty flag, or using a special 
decorator (NoExceptionConfiguration ?)

Someone else mentioned that one of the reasons that the configuration 
interface does not declare any exceptions is that it would make code too 
messy catching exceptions. However, I do not agree that this is a 
sufficient reason to not declare thrown exceptions, for the following 
reasons:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/exceptions/runtime.html
I don't want to declare a ConfigurationException on every method of the 
Configuration interface, logging data access errors is fine imho, but 
there are some unexpected and undocumented runtime exceptions that 
should be removed (the most important is in 
JNDIConfiguration.getKeys()). The case of ConversionException should 
also be examined.

Emmanuel Bourg
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Re: About MavenTagLibrary

2004-10-21 Thread Paul Libbrecht
This has certainly moved in the maven source-tree. For example, what  
about the following:
http://maven.apache.org/xref/org/apache/maven/jelly/tags/jeez/ 
MavenJeezTagLibrary.html

Jeez has not much tags of its own, I think... it's combining Werkz  
(also outside) and ant taglibs.

paul
Le 21 oct. 04, à 14:04, A Leg a écrit :
I don't succeed to find in CVS MavenTagLibrary.java
corresponding to
org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary
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Re: About MavenTagLibrary

2004-10-21 Thread A Leg
Hi Paul
Yes but it is in package org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.jeez
and
MavenJellyContext.java
import org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary;
So I don't understand how it can work. Suppose some old jar is somewhere.
But after ?
Andre
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
This has certainly moved in the maven source-tree. For example, what  
about the following:
http://maven.apache.org/xref/org/apache/maven/jelly/tags/jeez/ 
MavenJeezTagLibrary.html

Jeez has not much tags of its own, I think... it's combining Werkz  
(also outside) and ant taglibs.

paul
Le 21 oct. 04, à 14:04, A Leg a écrit :
I don't succeed to find in CVS MavenTagLibrary.java
corresponding to
org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary
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Re: [configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Ricardo Gladwell
Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
 Let me know if I missed an exception.
AFAIK, all actions throw the runtime exception ConversionException.
I'm not fond of this. It only affects the configurations using an 
unreliable communication channel to access the properties, that's 
JNDIConfiguration and DatabaseConfiguration, the most widely used 
configurations are file based and not affected by this issue, why 
annoying their users ? Also this may prevent us from making 
Configurations implement the Map interface, I still want to try this.
I would argue that all communcation channels have the potential to be 
unreliable especially when you consider the IO API can be extended to 
read/write data from  variety of source types. We cannot exclude the 
possiblity of, for example, reading configuration information over 
(unreliable) network connections. I don't this is an argument against 
reporting exceptions in the underlying layer. Otherwise, would the 
various IOException and SQLException also be runtime exceptions?

I think, rather than force users to exit their programs on a 
configuration error we should give them the option of either exiting 
gracefully themselves or handling configuration exceptions unless we can 
guanrantee that no exceptions will be thrown be by the code under all 
circumstances (i.e. if disk is full, if hard disk is corrupted, etc) in 
which case *we* have to handle the exception and recover from it. There 
are many reasons for doing this, more importantly, so that users can 
handle and recover from configuration read/write exceptions themselves.

Another option would be to create an exception reporting mechanism 
within the Configuration interface. Perhaps a method call 
getExceptionsThrown() that returns a list of exceptions thrown during 
the last few operations. Of course, this does mean that we are 
re-creating the exception throwing mechanism implemented within Java itself.

I don't want to declare a ConfigurationException on every method of the 
Configuration interface, logging data access errors is fine imho, but 
there are some unexpected and undocumented runtime exceptions that 
should be removed (the most important is in 
JNDIConfiguration.getKeys()). The case of ConversionException should 
also be examined.
It depends on why you are opposed to adding ConfigurationException to 
all methods declartions in Configuration. If it's because it would 
clutter the code with various try/catch blocks for users then I would 
argue that this should not be an issue: reporting and handling 
exceptions is a hassle but there is a very specific reason we have them. 
I think the users would object more to the fact that

Kind regards,
-- Ricardo
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   Summary: Size Threshold in Commons Upload not Working
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Re: [configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Ricardo Gladwell wrote:
Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
  Let me know if I missed an exception.
AFAIK, all actions throw the runtime exception ConversionException.
The typed getters only. getProperty, getKeys, isEmpty, addProperty, 
setProperty, clear, clearProperty, subset, containsKey do not throw 
ConversionException.


I would argue that all communcation channels have the potential to be 
unreliable especially when you consider the IO API can be extended to 
read/write data from  variety of source types. We cannot exclude the 
possiblity of, for example, reading configuration information over 
(unreliable) network connections. I don't this is an argument against 
reporting exceptions in the underlying layer. Otherwise, would the 
various IOException and SQLException also be runtime exceptions?
PropertyConfiguration reads from a Map, I think we can assume it 
reliably read it ;)

Logging the errors isn't enough ?

I think, rather than force users to exit their programs on a 
configuration error we should give them the option of either exiting 
gracefully themselves or handling configuration exceptions unless we can 
guanrantee that no exceptions will be thrown be by the code under all 
circumstances (i.e. if disk is full, if hard disk is corrupted, etc) in 
which case *we* have to handle the exception and recover from it. There 
are many reasons for doing this, more importantly, so that users can 
handle and recover from configuration read/write exceptions themselves.
What about the flag I suggested to hide ConversionExceptions and return 
the default value if available ?


Another option would be to create an exception reporting mechanism 
within the Configuration interface. Perhaps a method call 
getExceptionsThrown() that returns a list of exceptions thrown during 
the last few operations. Of course, this does mean that we are 
re-creating the exception throwing mechanism implemented within Java 
itself.
I'm not sure this provides the right reporting mechanism, because the 
application will have to poll this method frequently to check if an 
exception occured. I would prefer a notification mechanism with an event 
listener.

It depends on why you are opposed to adding ConfigurationException to 
all methods declartions in Configuration. If it's because it would 
clutter the code with various try/catch blocks for users then I would 
argue that this should not be an issue: reporting and handling 
exceptions is a hassle but there is a very specific reason we have them. 
I think the users would object more to the fact that
That's the issue to me. Also if we add a checked exception on isEmpty or 
containsKey, the Configuration interface can no longer extend the Map 
interface, I don't want to block this potential evolution.

I believe we can find a compromise preserving the ease of use and 
providing a rigorous error reporting.

Emmanuel Bourg
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RE: [configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Eric Pugh
I think both arguments are valid.  It depends on your use case.   One of the
obstacles with an interface like Configuration is that you don't know who is
going to implement it.  And some are reliable, and some are not.  For the
same reasons that the Map,Set,List interface don't throw checked exceptions,
so Configuration doesn't throw.  Especially since I think that the most
common use would be:

try {
conf.getString(hi);
}
catch (ConfigurationException ce){
throw new RuntimeException(ce)
}

and so on..  It most apps the graceful shutdown aspects are never
implemented.  ON a webapp I often just bubble the error up and say try
again..   However, there are apps, like a public facing app, where you
can't do that.

Could we have two interfaces?  Configuration and StrictConfiguration?
StrictConfiguration would declare checked methods?

Eric

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 Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
   Let me know if I missed an exception.

 AFAIK, all actions throw the runtime exception ConversionException.

  I'm not fond of this. It only affects the configurations using an
  unreliable communication channel to access the properties, that's
  JNDIConfiguration and DatabaseConfiguration, the most widely used
  configurations are file based and not affected by this issue, why
  annoying their users ? Also this may prevent us from making
  Configurations implement the Map interface, I still want to try this.

 I would argue that all communcation channels have the potential to be
 unreliable especially when you consider the IO API can be extended to
 read/write data from  variety of source types. We cannot exclude the
 possiblity of, for example, reading configuration information over
 (unreliable) network connections. I don't this is an argument against
 reporting exceptions in the underlying layer. Otherwise, would the
 various IOException and SQLException also be runtime exceptions?

 I think, rather than force users to exit their programs on a
 configuration error we should give them the option of either exiting
 gracefully themselves or handling configuration exceptions unless we can
 guanrantee that no exceptions will be thrown be by the code under all
 circumstances (i.e. if disk is full, if hard disk is corrupted, etc) in
 which case *we* have to handle the exception and recover from it. There
 are many reasons for doing this, more importantly, so that users can
 handle and recover from configuration read/write exceptions themselves.

 Another option would be to create an exception reporting mechanism
 within the Configuration interface. Perhaps a method call
 getExceptionsThrown() that returns a list of exceptions thrown during
 the last few operations. Of course, this does mean that we are
 re-creating the exception throwing mechanism implemented within
 Java itself.

  I don't want to declare a ConfigurationException on every method of the
  Configuration interface, logging data access errors is fine imho, but
  there are some unexpected and undocumented runtime exceptions that
  should be removed (the most important is in
  JNDIConfiguration.getKeys()). The case of ConversionException should
  also be examined.

 It depends on why you are opposed to adding ConfigurationException to
 all methods declartions in Configuration. If it's because it would
 clutter the code with various try/catch blocks for users then I would
 argue that this should not be an issue: reporting and handling
 exceptions is a hassle but there is a very specific reason we have them.
 I think the users would object more to the fact that

 Kind regards,
 -- Ricardo

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[chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Sean Schofield
I had an idea about how we could improve the default configuration of
commons-chain.  It would be nice if we could have the following
catalog.xml:

catalog
  chains
chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=foo className=Foo/
  command name=bar className=Bar/
/chain
chain name=biz.chain
  chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=biz className=Biz/
/chain
  /chains
/catalog

The idea is that once a chain has been created through the Digester it
is available for subsequent chains that need to be created.  Thus you
could reference an existing chain (as is done in the biz.chain).

This way you could reuse chains as you see fit.  This could come in
handy eventually in the struts-chain project.  You could group several
related commands together and then offer different chain combinations
to the user depending on what they need.

Any thoughts on that?

sean

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Maven Dumbster problems

2004-10-21 Thread Corey Scott
Has anyone managed to get maven and dumbster to work together?

I currently have a project which the unit test run fine (using eclipse
and ant) but when i run the same tests using maven it cannot find the
fake smpt server started by dumbster.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Corey

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RE: [configuration] Concerns with ConfigurationRuntimeException

2004-10-21 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi fellows,

Eric Pugh wrote on Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:30 PM:

 I think both arguments are valid.  It depends on your use
 case. 

[snip]

 Could we have two interfaces?  Configuration and
 StrictConfiguration? StrictConfiguration would declare
 checked methods?

What about a monitor concept? Logging itself is useless, the application cannot react. 
Throwing checked exceptions is annoying for the memory or file based configurations 
(i.e. nothing can really fail after the file is read). Registering a listener for a 
Configuration, that supports error events may solve these problems. Probably a logging 
listener should be provided by default.

Regards,
Jörg

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RE: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
Hi folks.  Thanks for all the feedback.  One thing is I've been hired by 
Kevin at his startup company, Rojo, and one of my main full-time 
responsibilities is to help maintain and improve the Jakarta Feed 
Parser.  I'll continue posting all of my patches here.  One of the issues 
is that the quantity and size of my patches is increasing, such as one I am 
going to land this morning; it is getting difficult for Kevin to hand apply 
all of the patches since he is quite busy with getting other parts of Rojo 
going.  This was starting to affect my work since I was waiting for him to 
apply some patches before moving on to the next ones, but it was taking him 
awhile to do so because of his work load.  I understand, though, that the 
Apache Jakarta community has its own process that I must respect.

At 01:54 AM 10/21/2004, you wrote:
I know it feels like a chicken and an egg sort of problem...  One of the
historical aspects of commons is that half the code came from other
projects, and half started from scratch.  At least for the code that came
from other projects meant that they already had committers involved,
facilitating access.  And those started from scratch where started by people
involved in Commons already.
I always recommend that someone pick up one or two projects to be involved
with.  That way, as traction is lost on one, progress can be made on the
other, and you don't get too siloed...
I am sure that with a periond of involvement the demonstrates his abilities
and that he gets the Apache Way that he will gain access.  We just all
need to get to know him!
Eric
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:26 AM
 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
 Subject: Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit


 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:14:33 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Brad is working full time on feedparser and you're essentially telling
  him he can't get CVS access until its 1.0. How are we supposed to GET it
  to 1.0 it he can't get CVS access?
 

 That's certainly not clear from the email history.  For example, you
 could help this cause a lot if you mentioned (in your CVS commit
 messages) which one were applied because Brad did them instead of you.
  Nobody can tell that he did *any* of the work.

  Do you see the problem here?
 
  I think the issue is that right now for the jakarta sandbox if you give
  Brad access then you're giving him access to a number of other projects.
  He doesn't want access to other projects he just wants access
 to FeedParser.
 

 The deeper issue is that you seem to expect Apache to work like
 SourceForge, which it doesn't.  Committer access is earned (based on
 demonstrated contributions), not requested -- and it's voted on by
 other committers (in this particular case, those who commit to Jakarta
 Commons projects), not granted to non-current-committers simply
 because of asking.

 The fact that jakarta-commons-sandbox is all under the control of a
 single set of karma is an unfortunate fact of our current CVS
 implementation, but it makes absolutely no difference to the case.
 Any prospective Commons committer who couldn't be trusted to play by
 the rules shouldn't be a committer on *any* Apache project.  On the
 other hand, granting sandbox-wide or commons-wide (which happens when
 sandbox projects get promoted) karma is a key tool in increasing the
 community of active developers on individual packages, because it
 reduces the barrier to jump in and help.

 
 
  Kevin
 
 Craig

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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
At 06:25 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:14:33 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brad is working full time on feedparser and you're essentially telling
 him he can't get CVS access until its 1.0. How are we supposed to GET it
 to 1.0 it he can't get CVS access?

That's certainly not clear from the email history.  For example, you
could help this cause a lot if you mentioned (in your CVS commit
messages) which one were applied because Brad did them instead of you.
 Nobody can tell that he did *any* of the work.
I've submitted alot of patches to Kevin for the Feed Parser (through this 
list), but when he did the CVS commits he did not make it clear that I had 
developed the code.  I've asked him to make this clearer on CVS commits in 
the future.


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[feedparser] Patch to Improve Build System

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
The following is a patch for the feed parser's build system.  It does the 
following:

* Changes build.xml to use a build.properties file for the following two 
properties:
* feedparser.home - The location of the feed parser installation; 
defaults to .. Needed so that we can update our unit tests to run 
cross-platform (they used to only run on Kevins Linux box :)
* ext.lib.path - The location of external JARs needed by the feed 
parser but which are not included, such as junit.jar. The location to these 
used to be hard coded in the build.xml file, which is nasty and doesn't 
work cross-platform.
* Added help to the build.xml file - essentially this is an ant task, 
'help', that provides information on the available tasks and how to 
configure your system to get the feed parser to work.
* Added ant-contrib.jar to the lib directory and wire it in. Ant-contrib is 
a nice collection of advanced ant tags, such as an if tag, that can help to 
make more maintainable ant files. It is opensource.
* Cleaned up the unit testing targets. Right now we have several testing 
targets that aren't rationalized. I've created a single task, test, that 
by default runs every available task. This task allows an optional 
argument, test.only.local, that will only test the local tasks and not 
the remote ones so that they run faster (Kevin asked for this).

To make this patch work you will also need to add ant-contrib-0.6.jar to 
the lib directory, since I can't attach JARs to emails for this list:

http://p2psockets.jxta.org/source/browse/p2psockets/lib/ant-contrib-0.6.jar?rev=1.1http://p2psockets.jxta.org/source/browse/p2psockets/lib/ant-contrib-0.6.jar?rev=1.1 

Here is the patch:
Index build.xml
===
RCS file /home/cvspublic/jakarta-commons-sandbox/feedparser/build.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -B -r1.9 build.xml
--- build.xml   18 Oct 2004 001223 -1.9
+++ build.xml   21 Oct 2004 011158 -
@@ -1,6 +1,10 @@
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
-project name=feedparser default=jakarta-feedparser.jar basedir=.
+project name=feedparser default=help basedir=.
+
+property environment=env/
+
+property file=build.properties/
 property name=project value=feedparser/
@@ -28,36 +32,76 @@
 /fileset
-!--
-fileset dir=c/usr/local/ksa/lib
+fileset dir=${ext.lib.path}
  include name=*.jar/
 /fileset
- --
+
+fileset dir=${ant.home}/lib
+include name=*.jar/
+/fileset
 /path
+!-- ant-contrib tasks path http//ant-contrib.sourceforge.net;
+ this includes custom tags, such as an 'if' tag --
+property name=ant-contrib.jar value=./lib/ant-contrib-0.6.jar/
+taskdef resource=net/sf/antcontrib/antcontrib.properties
+classpath
+pathelement location=${ant-contrib.jar}/
+/classpath
+/taskdef
+
+taskdef name=junit
+ 
classname=org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.junit.JUnitTask/
+
 target name=compile

 mkdir dir=compile/
-javac srcdir=src/java/
+javac srcdir=src/java/
classpathref=project.classpath
-   destdir=compile
+   destdir=compile
debug=true/
 /target
+target name=clean
+delete dir=compile/
+/target
+
+target name=clobber
+delete dir=compile/
+/target
+
+target name=jakarta-feedparser.jar depends=compile
+
+mkdir dir=lib/
+
+jar compress=yes jarfile=lib/jakarta-feedparser.jar
+
+fileset dir=compile
+
+include name=org/**/
+include name=feedparser/**/
+include name=*.class/
+
+/fileset
+
+/jar
+
+/target
+
 target name=run-example description=Runs the example feed parser 
class
 depends=jakarta-feedparser.jar
java classpathref=project.classpath
  classname=org.apache.commons.feedparser.example.HelloFeedParser
  fork=true
  failonerror=true
-   /java
+   /java
 /target
-
+
 target name=debug-feed description=Debugs a feed
 depends=jakarta-feedparser.jar
java classpathref=project.classpath
@@ -65,77 +109,50 @@
  fork=true
  failonerror=true
   arg value=${feed-url}/
-   /java
+   /java
 /target
-
+
 target name=test-autodiscover description=Runs the testing class 
for autodiscovery
 depends=jakarta-feedparser.jar

java classpathref=project.classpath
- classname=org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate.FeedLocator
+ classname=org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate.TestFeedLocator
  fork=true
  failonerror=true
-   /java
+sysproperty key=feedparser.home value=${feedparser.home}/
+   /java
 /target
-
-   target name=test-probing description=Runs 

[feedparser] Patch to Improve Unit Tests

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
The following patch improves the feed parser's unit tests.  It does the 
following:
* Gets the tests to run cross-platform
* Modifies the tests to use the new BlogService system, which I will post 
as a patch after this email.

The patch:
The following patch updates the unit tests
Index src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedFilter.java
===
RCS file 
/home/cvspublic/jakarta-commons-sandbox/feedparser/src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedFilter.java,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -B -r1.4 TestFeedFilter.java
--- src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedFilter.java 14 
Sep 2004 013204 -1.4
+++ src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedFilter.java 21 
Oct 2004 011306 -
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 /*
  * Copyright 1999,2004 The Apache Software Foundation.
- *
+ *
  * Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the License);
  * you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
  * You may obtain a copy of the License at
- *
+ *
  *  http//www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
- *
+ *
  * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
  * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS,
  * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
@@ -44,12 +44,19 @@
  * @version $Id TestFeedFilter.java,v 1.4 2004/09/14 013204 burton Exp $
  */
 public class TestFeedFilter extends TestCase {
-
-public static int current = 0;
+protected String feedparserHome;

+public static int current = 0;
+
 public TestFeedFilter( String name ) throws Exception {
 super( name );
-
+
+feedparserHome = System.getProperty(feedparser.home, .);
+// these come in as forward slashes, even on Windows, because of Ant,
+// so it is safe to check them as / rather than File.separator
+// Brad Neuberg
+if (feedparserHome.endsWith(/) == false)
+feedparserHome = feedparserHome + /;
 }
 private void doTest( String resource ) throws Exception {
@@ -59,14 +66,14 @@
 URL url = new URL( resource );
 FileOutputStream fos = new FileOutputStream( 
/tmp/test-feed-filter- + current + .html );
-
+
 PrintStream out = new PrintStream( fos, true, UTF-8 );

 out.println( META HTTP-EQUIV=\Content-Type\ 
CONTENT=\text/html; charset=UTF-8\  );
 out.println( pre );

 DebugFeedParserListener listener = new DebugFeedParserListener( 
out );
-
+
 FeedParser.parse( listener, url.openStream(), resource );

 out.println( /pre );
@@ -74,36 +81,37 @@
 ++current;
 }
-
+
 public void test1() throws Exception {
+String path = file + feedparserHome;
-doTest( filetests/feeds/rss-1.0-EUC-JP.rdf );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/rss-1.0-EUC-JP.rdf );
-doTest( filetests/filter/nbsp-1.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/nbsp-1.xml );
-doTest( filetests/filter/entity-atom-1.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/entity-atom-1.xml );
-doTest( filetests/filter/prolog-atom-1.xml );
-doTest( filetests/filter/prolog-atom-2.xml );
-doTest( filetests/filter/prolog-opml-1.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/prolog-atom-1.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/prolog-atom-2.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/prolog-opml-1.xml );
-doTest( filetests/filter/lisa.opml );
+doTest( path + tests/filter/lisa.opml );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/utf16.rss1 );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/utf16.rss2 );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/i18n.atom );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/utf16.atom );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/utf16.rss1 );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/utf16.rss2 );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/i18n.atom );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/utf16.atom );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/atom-1.xml );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/rss-1.0-EUC-JP.rdf );
-doTest( filetests/feeds/rss-1.0-international-1.rdf );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/atom-1.xml );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/rss-1.0-EUC-JP.rdf );
+doTest( path + tests/feeds/rss-1.0-international-1.rdf );
 }
 public static void main( String[] args ) throws Exception {
 TestFeedFilter test = new TestFeedFilter( null );
-
+
 //test.testGetWeblogLinkForResource();
 test.test1();
Index src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedLocator.java
===
RCS file 
/home/cvspublic/jakarta-commons-sandbox/feedparser/src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedLocator.java,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -B -r1.5 TestFeedLocator.java
--- src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/test/TestFeedLocator.java31 
Aug 2004 210032 -1.5
+++ 

[feedparser] Patch to Feed Parser 'Locate' System

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
The following patch updates the org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate system 
to use the new BlogService refactoring described earlier.  It mostly 
consists of patches to BlogServiceDiscovery and ProbeLocator.

The following patch updates the org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate 
package to correctly use the new 'blogservice' subpackage

Index src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/locate/BlogServiceDiscovery.java
===
RCS file 
/home/cvspublic/jakarta-commons-sandbox/feedparser/src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/locate/BlogServiceDiscovery.java,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -B -r1.4 BlogServiceDiscovery.java
--- 
src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/locate/BlogServiceDiscovery.java 
30 Sep 2004 192738 -1.4
+++ 
src/java/org/apache/commons/feedparser/locate/BlogServiceDiscovery.java 
21 Oct 2004 011457 -
@@ -16,310 +16,34 @@

 package org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate;
-import java.util.regex.*;
+import org.apache.commons.feedparser.*;
+import org.apache.commons.feedparser.locate.blogservice.*;
 /**
- *
  * Determines what blog provider a given URI is using,
  * such as whether it is hosted on Blogspot, Radio Userland, etc.
  *
  * @author a href=[EMAIL PROTECTED]Brad Neuberg/a
  */
 public class BlogServiceDiscovery {
-/** Locates all the generator meta tags
- *  (i.e. meta content=generator content=someGenerator/)
- */
-private static Pattern metaTagsPattern =
-Pattern.compile([\\s]*meta[\\w\\s=\']*name=['\ 
]generator[\' ][\\w\\s=\']*[^]*,
-Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE | Pattern.MULTILINE);
-
-/** A pattern used to discover PMachine blogs. */
-private static Pattern pmachinePattern =
-Pattern.compile(pmachine, Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE);

-/** A pattern used to discover Blosxom blogs. */
-private static Pattern blosxomPattern =
-Pattern.compile(alt=[\' ]powered by blosxom[\' ],
-Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE);
-
-/** Uses the given resource and content to determine what blog provider
- *  a given URI is using.
- */
-public static BlogService discover( String resource, String content ) {
-return discoverService( resource, content );
-}
-
-/** Uses the given resource to determine what blog provider
- *  a given URI is using; useful if you have no content but still want
- *  to do a best guess of what blog service is being used.
- */
-public static BlogService discover( String resource ) {
-return discoverService( resource, null );
+public static BlogService discover( String resource )
+throws FeedParserException {
+return discover(resource, null);
 }
-// NOTE ALL of this code should change to a visitor pattern.  Bad design.
-
-protected static BlogService discoverService( String resource,
-  String content ) {
+public static BlogService discover( String resource,
+String content )
+throws FeedParserException {
 resource = resource.toLowerCase();
-
-// check the weblogs in order of their popularity
-if (isBlogger(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.BLOGGER;
-}
-else if (isLiveJournal(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.LIVEJOURNAL;
-}
-else if (isDiaryLand(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.DIARYLAND;
-}
-else if (isMovableType(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.MOVABLE_TYPE;
-}
-else if (isXanga(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.XANGA;
-}
-else if (isWordPress(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.WORDPRESS;
-}
-else if (isAOLJournals(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.AOL_JOURNAL;
-}
-else if (isTypePad(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.TYPEPAD;
-}
-else if (isPMachine(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.PMACHINE;
-}
-/* FIXME No way to detect Expression Engine weblogs right now
-else if (isExpressionEngine(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.EXPRESSION_ENGINE;
-}*/
-else if (isGreyMatter(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.GREYMATTER;
-}
-/* FIXME We can't detect iBlog sites
-else if (isIBlog(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.IBLOG;
-}*/
-else if (isBlosxom(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.BLOSXOM;
-}
-/* FIXME We can't detect Manila sites.
-else if (isManila(resource, content)) {
-return BlogService.MANILA;
-}*/
-   

[feedparser] What I'm Working on Today

2004-10-21 Thread Brad Neuberg
Howdy.  I've mapped out today (Thursday) to hack on the feed parser here at 
work, and just wanted to tell folks whats on my plate, rather than just 
keep it as conversations between Kevin and I.  Here is what I would like to 
achieve today:

  * Roll in unit tests for Flickr and Yahoo Groups into TestProbeLocator
  * Make Flickr support more robust (they support several different kinds 
of feeds, such as for tags, groups, etc., some which support autodiscovery 
correctly and some which don't)
  * Some of the unit tests won't run on Windows due to some file path 
expansion issues; I am going to try to fix these
  * The autodiscovery code is a bit flaky, breaking when the attributes 
are in the wrong order.  I want to fix this and improve the unit tests to 
be test more variations.

There might also be some issues with Feedster and Topix support that I will 
take a look at today and tommorrow.

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commons-id Using ClassLoader.getSystemResourceAsStream()

2004-10-21 Thread Gregg, John E.
Hi all,
 
I'm having a little trouble with the fact that commons-id's
ReadOnlyResourceStateImpl uses ClassLoader.getSystemResourceAsStream to load
the config file containing MAC addresses.  Is that intentional?  When I'm
testing my app with Maven, the only thing in the system class loader's path
is Maven's forehead jar.  Perhaps I can/should change that, but it causes my
test to fail because my config file isn't found.  If I use
this.getClass().getResourceAsStream(), things are fine.  I can understand
why the system class loader is used, however, for that particular file--
because it's based on where the app is deployed and therefore is not
portable, like the rest of the app is.  If you think it should change to use
the app's class loader, I'll submit a patch.  If you think it should stay
the way it is, I might consider refactoring the load() method to use
inversion of control so I can better test with mock objects and not worry
about environmental concerns.  If I do that I'll submit a patch.
 
thanks
 
john
 


Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Craig McClanahan
It's possible to delegate to a previously defined chain (or command)
already, if you do two things:

* (Optional) you don't need chains any more ... that was there
  in the original examples solely to satisfy XML's requirement for
  a single root element.

* Use the existing lookup command to delegate execution to the
  foobar chain:

  command catalog=... name=foobar.chain
className=org.apache.commons.chain.generic.LookupCommand/

  which causes foobar.chain to be looked up and executed.

Looking at this, though, we'll probably want to clean up some of the
existing command definitions that currently assume a catalog is
present in the context ... thanks to CatalogFactory that is no longer
necessary, so we can change that to optionally specify a catalog name
(with a default to the standard one).

In struts-chain there's an example of this sort of thing in the
'servlet-complete' chain.

Craig

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:31:24 -0400, Sean Schofield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had an idea about how we could improve the default configuration of
 commons-chain.  It would be nice if we could have the following
 catalog.xml:
 
 catalog
   chains
 chain name=foobar.chain
   command name=foo className=Foo/
   command name=bar className=Bar/
 /chain
 chain name=biz.chain
   chain name=foobar.chain
   command name=biz className=Biz/
 /chain
   /chains
 /catalog
 
 The idea is that once a chain has been created through the Digester it
 is available for subsequent chains that need to be created.  Thus you
 could reference an existing chain (as is done in the biz.chain).
 
 This way you could reuse chains as you see fit.  This could come in
 handy eventually in the struts-chain project.  You could group several
 related commands together and then offer different chain combinations
 to the user depending on what they need.
 
 Any thoughts on that?
 
 sean
 
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   Summary: Otiose Code in ParameterParser
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The line paramValue = null is, I think, otiose in ParameterParser and
constitutes an operation that really does nothing except take up CPU space,
unless  the VM catches it, which I doubt, and ignores it.  Not sure if people
want to look at code this closely, but, if you do, then the code is:



  public Map parse(final char[] chars,
   int offset,
   int length,
   char separator) {
if (chars == null) {
  return new HashMap();
}
HashMap params = new HashMap();
this.chars = chars;
this.pos = offset;
this.len = length;

String paramName = null;
String paramValue = null;
while (hasChar()) {
  paramName = parseToken(new char[] { '=', separator });
  paramValue = null;
  if (hasChar()  (chars[pos] == '=')) {
pos++; // skip '='
paramValue = parseQuotedToken(new char[] { separator });
  }
  if (hasChar()  (chars[pos] == separator)) {
pos++; // skip separator
  }
  if ((paramName != null)  (paramName.length()  0)) {
if (this.lowerCaseNames) {
  paramName = paramName.toLowerCase();
}
params.put(paramName, paramValue);
  }
}
return params;
  }

Michael McGrady

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Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:31 AM -0400 10/21/04, Sean Schofield wrote:
I had an idea about how we could improve the default configuration of
commons-chain.  It would be nice if we could have the following
catalog.xml:
catalog
  chains
chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=foo className=Foo/
  command name=bar className=Bar/
/chain
chain name=biz.chain
  chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=biz className=Biz/
/chain
  /chains
/catalog
I think it's basically a good idea, although I'd want a different 
attribute for references; reusing name with the same element and 
different semantics would be pretty confusing.

How about ref?
chain name=biz.chain
  chain ref=foobar.chain
  command name=biz className=Biz/
/chain
Joe
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration DatabaseConfiguration.java

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 11:02:09

  Modified:configuration/xdocs changes.xml
   configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration
DatabaseConfiguration.java
  Log:
  DatabaseConfiguration.isEmpty() now returns true if an SQLException occurs.
  This is consistent with JNDIConfiguration.isEmpty() and the empty iterator returned 
by getKeys() in this case.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.67  +3 -0  jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/changes.xml
  
  Index: changes.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/changes.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.66
  retrieving revision 1.67
  diff -u -r1.66 -r1.67
  --- changes.xml   19 Oct 2004 13:41:44 -  1.66
  +++ changes.xml   21 Oct 2004 18:02:09 -  1.67
  @@ -8,6 +8,9 @@
 body
   
   release version=1.1-dev date=in CVS
  +  action dev=ebourg type=fix
  +DatabaseConfiguration.isEmpty() now returns true if an SQLException occurs.
  +  /action
 action dev=ebourg type=add
   Added two methods copy(Configuration, Configuration) and
   append(Configuration, Configuration) in ConfigurationUtils to copy
  
  
  
  1.12  +2 -2  
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/DatabaseConfiguration.java
  
  Index: DatabaseConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/DatabaseConfiguration.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.11
  retrieving revision 1.12
  diff -u -r1.11 -r1.12
  --- DatabaseConfiguration.java18 Oct 2004 14:05:23 -  1.11
  +++ DatabaseConfiguration.java21 Oct 2004 18:02:09 -  1.12
  @@ -208,7 +208,7 @@
*/
   public boolean isEmpty()
   {
  -boolean empty = false;
  +boolean empty = true;
   
   // build the query
   StringBuffer query = new StringBuffer(SELECT count(*) FROM  + table);
  
  
  

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[configuration] JNDIConfiguration.getProperties not supported ?

2004-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
I just noticed that getProperties() is overridden in JNDIConfiguration 
to throw an UnsupportedOperationException. What's wrong with this method 
? The implementation inherited from AbstractConfiguration doesn't work 
here ?

Emmanuel Bourg
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Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:27 AM -0500 10/21/04, Joe Germuska wrote:
At 10:31 AM -0400 10/21/04, Sean Schofield wrote:
I had an idea about how we could improve the default configuration of
commons-chain.  It would be nice if we could have the following
catalog.xml:
catalog
  chains
chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=foo className=Foo/
  command name=bar className=Bar/
/chain
chain name=biz.chain
  chain name=foobar.chain
  command name=biz className=Biz/
/chain
  /chains
/catalog
I think it's basically a good idea, although I'd want a different 
attribute for references; reusing name with the same element and 
different semantics would be pretty confusing.

How about ref?
chain name=biz.chain
  chain ref=foobar.chain
  command name=biz className=Biz/
/chain
Craig has since responded on this issue pointing out that it can be 
done.  However, I have had in the back of my head a bit of a nagging 
concern that the XML syntax for commons-chain is verbose, if not 
confusing.   Then again, I haven't set out to make a new chain myself 
yet, so I don't have a good feel about just how serious the issue is.

So, Craig -- would you object to something like the above, which is 
more concise, even though there is another way to do it?  How about 
anyone else who has been interested in Chain?  Is it too early to 
optimize the config syntax?

Joe
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration JNDIConfiguration.java

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 11:36:14

  Modified:configuration/xdocs changes.xml
   configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration
JNDIConfiguration.java
  Log:
  JNDIConfiguration.getKeys() now returns an empty iterator instead of throwing a 
ConfigurationRuntimeException when a NamingException occurs.
  The NamingExceptions are now all logged.
  Added a more explicit javadoc on the methods throwing an 
UnsupportedOperationException.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.68  +5 -0  jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/changes.xml
  
  Index: changes.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/changes.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.67
  retrieving revision 1.68
  diff -u -r1.67 -r1.68
  --- changes.xml   21 Oct 2004 18:02:09 -  1.67
  +++ changes.xml   21 Oct 2004 18:36:14 -  1.68
  @@ -9,6 +9,11 @@
   
   release version=1.1-dev date=in CVS
 action dev=ebourg type=fix
  +JNDIConfiguration.getKeys() now returns an empty iterator instead of
  +throwing a ConfigurationRuntimeException when a NamingException occurs.
  +The NamingExceptions are now logged.
  +  /action
  +  action dev=ebourg type=fix
   DatabaseConfiguration.isEmpty() now returns true if an SQLException occurs.
 /action
 action dev=ebourg type=add
  
  
  
  1.20  +22 -23
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/JNDIConfiguration.java
  
  Index: JNDIConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/JNDIConfiguration.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.19
  retrieving revision 1.20
  diff -u -r1.19 -r1.20
  --- JNDIConfiguration.java4 Oct 2004 20:06:09 -   1.19
  +++ JNDIConfiguration.java21 Oct 2004 18:36:14 -  1.20
  @@ -26,10 +26,8 @@
   import javax.naming.Context;
   import javax.naming.InitialContext;
   import javax.naming.NameClassPair;
  -import javax.naming.NameNotFoundException;
   import javax.naming.NamingEnumeration;
   import javax.naming.NamingException;
  -import javax.naming.NotContextException;
   
   import org.apache.commons.lang.StringUtils;
   import org.apache.commons.logging.Log;
  @@ -110,10 +108,10 @@
   }
   
   /**
  - * JNDIConfigurations can not be added to.
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
*
  - * @param key The Key to add the property to.
  - * @param token The Value to add.
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
*/
   public void addProperty(String key, Object token)
   {
  @@ -221,7 +219,8 @@
   }
   catch (NamingException e)
   {
  -throw new ConfigurationRuntimeException(e.getMessage(), e);
  +log.error(e.getMessage(), e);
  +return new ArrayList().iterator();
   }
   }
   
  @@ -278,9 +277,10 @@
   }
   
   /**
  - * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
*
  - * bThis operation is not supported/b
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
*/
   public Properties getProperties(String key)
   {
  @@ -310,9 +310,9 @@
   }
   }
   }
  -catch (NamingException ne)
  +catch (NamingException e)
   {
  -log.warn(ne);
  +log.error(e.getMessage(), e);
   return true;
   }
   }
  @@ -326,7 +326,10 @@
   }
   
   /**
  - * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
*/
   public void setProperty(String key, Object value)
   {
  @@ -357,8 +360,9 @@
   getBaseContext().lookup(key);
   return true;
   }
  -catch (NamingException ne)
  +catch (NamingException e)
   {
  +log.error(e.getMessage(), e);
   return false;
   }
   }
  @@ -399,23 +403,18 @@
   key = StringUtils.replace(key, ., /);
   return getBaseContext().lookup(key);
   }
  -catch (NameNotFoundException e)
  -{
  -return null;
  -}
  -catch (NotContextException e)
  -{
  -return null;
  -}
   catch (NamingException e)
   {
  -e.printStackTrace();
  +log.error(e.getMessage(), e);
   return null;
   }
   }
   
   /**
  - * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Craig McClanahan
See intermixed.


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:00:20 -0500, Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 10:27 AM -0500 10/21/04, Joe Germuska wrote:
 At 10:31 AM -0400 10/21/04, Sean Schofield wrote:
 I had an idea about how we could improve the default configuration of
 commons-chain.  It would be nice if we could have the following
 catalog.xml:
 
 catalog
chains
  chain name=foobar.chain
command name=foo className=Foo/
command name=bar className=Bar/
  /chain
  chain name=biz.chain
chain name=foobar.chain
command name=biz className=Biz/
  /chain
/chains
 /catalog
 
 I think it's basically a good idea, although I'd want a different
 attribute for references; reusing name with the same element and
 different semantics would be pretty confusing.
 
 How about ref?
 
  chain name=biz.chain
chain ref=foobar.chain
command name=biz className=Biz/
  /chain
 
 Craig has since responded on this issue pointing out that it can be
 done.  However, I have had in the back of my head a bit of a nagging
 concern that the XML syntax for commons-chain is verbose, if not
 confusing.   Then again, I haven't set out to make a new chain myself
 yet, so I don't have a good feel about just how serious the issue is.
 

One nitpick ... a ref thing like this probably ought to be on
command because you don't necessarily know whether what you are
referring to is actually a chain or just a singleton command.

 So, Craig -- would you object to something like the above, which is
 more concise, even though there is another way to do it?  How about
 anyone else who has been interested in Chain?  Is it too early to
 optimize the config syntax?
 
There has been some interest, but not a lot of commentary on the
configuration syntax so far.  One thing that is in place (but not well
documented) is the define capability, which essentially lets you
create aliases for command elements that you might use over and over
again.  It's used in the unit test cases
(src/test/org/apache/commons/chain/config/*.xml) but goes like this.

Let's assume you're going to use this lookup mechanism a lot.  So, you
can create a shortcut for it like this:

  define name=lookup
className=org.apache.commons.chain.generic.LookupCommand/

and then, in your actual chain definitions, you can say:

  lookup name=foobar.chain/

Essentially, the implementation creates new Digester rules on the fly.
 Does that help?

 Joe

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The threshold has nothing to do with whether or not something gets uploaded. 
FileUpload has no control over that, since the browser determines what to send. 
The threshold is used to determine whether the content of the item, once 
uploaded, should be retained in memory or written to disk. That is, if your 
threshold is 4096 bytes, then anything smaller than that will be retained in 
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web AppletConfiguration.java ServletConfiguration.java ServletContextConfiguration.java ServletFilterConfiguration.java ServletRequestConfiguration.java

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 11:42:09

  Modified:configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web
AppletConfiguration.java ServletConfiguration.java
ServletContextConfiguration.java
ServletFilterConfiguration.java
ServletRequestConfiguration.java
  Log:
  explicit javadoc for unsupported methods
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.3   +13 -1 
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/AppletConfiguration.java
  
  Index: AppletConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/AppletConfiguration.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- AppletConfiguration.java  14 Oct 2004 15:54:06 -  1.2
  +++ AppletConfiguration.java  21 Oct 2004 18:42:09 -  1.3
  @@ -51,6 +51,12 @@
   return applet.getParameter(key);
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   protected void addPropertyDirect(String key, Object obj)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  @@ -66,6 +72,12 @@
   return getPropertyDirect(key) != null;
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   public void clearProperty(String key)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  
  
  
  1.3   +13 -1 
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/ServletConfiguration.java
  
  Index: ServletConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/ServletConfiguration.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- ServletConfiguration.java 14 Oct 2004 15:54:06 -  1.2
  +++ ServletConfiguration.java 21 Oct 2004 18:42:09 -  1.3
  @@ -62,6 +62,12 @@
   return config.getInitParameter(key);
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   protected void addPropertyDirect(String key, Object obj)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  @@ -77,6 +83,12 @@
   return getPropertyDirect(key) != null;
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   public void clearProperty(String key)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  
  
  
  1.3   +13 -1 
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/ServletContextConfiguration.java
  
  Index: ServletContextConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/ServletContextConfiguration.java,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- ServletContextConfiguration.java  14 Oct 2004 15:54:06 -  1.2
  +++ ServletContextConfiguration.java  21 Oct 2004 18:42:09 -  1.3
  @@ -63,6 +63,12 @@
   return context.getInitParameter(key);
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   protected void addPropertyDirect(String key, Object obj)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  @@ -78,6 +84,12 @@
   return getPropertyDirect(key) != null;
   }
   
  +/**
  + * pstrongThis operation is not supported and will throw an
  + * UnsupportedOperationException./strong/p
  + *
  + * @throws UnsupportedOperationException
  + */
   public void clearProperty(String key)
   {
   throw new UnsupportedOperationException(Read only configuration);
  
  
  
  1.3   +13 -1 
jakarta-commons/configuration/src/java/org/apache/commons/configuration/web/ServletFilterConfiguration.java
  
  Index: ServletFilterConfiguration.java
  ===
  RCS file: 

[dbutils] Anyone working on this project?

2004-10-21 Thread Norris Shelton
I made a MapMapHandler and wanted someone to look at it to see
if it is worth submitting.

=

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Software Engineer
Sun Certified Java 1.1 Programmer
Appriss, Inc.
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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Craig McClanahan wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:14:33 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
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Brad is working full time on feedparser and you're essentially telling
him he can't get CVS access until its 1.0. How are we supposed to GET it
to 1.0 it he can't get CVS access?
   

That's certainly not clear from the email history.  For example, you
could help this cause a lot if you mentioned (in your CVS commit
messages) which one were applied because Brad did them instead of you.
Nobody can tell that he did *any* of the work.
 

I've documented the patches Brad has given me in everyone of my commits. 
Sorry if it wasn't in the email...

Do you see the problem here?
I think the issue is that right now for the jakarta sandbox if you give
Brad access then you're giving him access to a number of other projects.
He doesn't want access to other projects he just wants access to FeedParser.
   

The deeper issue is that you seem to expect Apache to work like
SourceForge, which it doesn't.  Committer access is earned (based on
demonstrated contributions), not requested -- and it's voted on by
other committers (in this particular case, those who commit to Jakarta
Commons projects), not granted to non-current-committers simply
because of asking.
 

Brad is one of the lead developers on the FeedParser. Its a NEW project 
and we're both working on it.

FeedParser is a contribution from Rojo and we're both working on it 
here! Its very difficult for us to make forward progress if I can't give 
a lead developer CVS commit.

The fact that jakarta-commons-sandbox is all under the control of a
single set of karma is an unfortunate fact of our current CVS
implementation, but it makes absolutely no difference to the case. 
 

When a new projects is created are you telling me that you don't give 
CVS commit to the lead developers? How would IBM feel if when they 
contributed Xerces that you wouldn't give their lead engineers access to 
CVS?

Any prospective Commons committer who couldn't be trusted to play by
the rules shouldn't be a committer on *any* Apache project.  On the
other hand, granting sandbox-wide or commons-wide (which happens when
sandbox projects get promoted) karma is a key tool in increasing the
community of active developers on individual packages, because it
reduces the barrier to jump in and help.
 

Listen... I'm sorry if we're trying to move too fast. We're a startup 
and on a very aggressive schedule. We're trying to get FeedParser to 1.0 
ASAP because its a critical portion of Rojo. Brad is a lead developer 
and its becoming difficult to synchronize our work without CVS commits. 
We're constantly having to coordinate our commits due to CVS 
limitations. If we were using a more anarchic revision control system 
like bitkeeper or arch this wouldn't be as much of a problem.

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Re: [dbutils] Anyone working on this project?

2004-10-21 Thread David Graham
What does MapMapHandler do?

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Re: [feedparser] What I'm Working on Today

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Brad Neuberg wrote:
Howdy. I've mapped out today (Thursday) to hack on the feed parser 
here at work, and just wanted to tell folks whats on my plate, rather 
than just keep it as conversations between Kevin and I. Here is what I 
would like to achieve today:

* Roll in unit tests for Flickr and Yahoo Groups into TestProbeLocator
We really need to talk to Flickr about correctly implementing HTTP and 
RSS/Atom autodiscovery. They've been very bad about this ...

* Make Flickr support more robust (they support several different 
kinds of feeds, such as for tags, groups, etc., some which support 
autodiscovery correctly and some which don't)
I didnt' realize this when I did my first implementation thanks.
* Some of the unit tests won't run on Windows due to some file path 
expansion issues; I am going to try to fix these
Yeah... my bad ;)
* The autodiscovery code is a bit flaky, breaking when the attributes 
are in the wrong order. I want to fix this and improve the unit tests 
to be test more variations.
Could you come up with some unit tests for this? I think I came up with 
some and it passed all attribute ordering passes but you might be right.

There might also be some issues with Feedster and Topix support that I 
will take a look at today and tommorrow. 
Topix is important. I asked Feedster to make their changes to their site 
but they seem lazy :-/

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Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Sean Schofield
snip

 There has been some interest, but not a lot of commentary on the
 configuration syntax so far.  One thing that is in place (but not well
 documented) is the define capability, which essentially lets you
 create aliases for command elements that you might use over and over
 again.  It's used in the unit test cases
 (src/test/org/apache/commons/chain/config/*.xml) but goes like this.
 
 Let's assume you're going to use this lookup mechanism a lot.  So, you
 can create a shortcut for it like this:
 
  define name=lookup
 className=org.apache.commons.chain.generic.LookupCommand/
 
 and then, in your actual chain definitions, you can say:
 
  lookup name=foobar.chain/
 
 Essentially, the implementation creates new Digester rules on the fly.
 Does that help?
 
 
 Craig

/snip

I think that's a good solution to Joe's concern.  I haven't taken a
close look at the test cases but I suspect there are plenty of
configuration scenarios that remain untested.  Maybe I will work up
some a additional ones.  Somewhere in the documentation we can point
the user to the test cases as Craig mentions for some examples.

sean

PS. Craig, I liked what you did with the configuration rule sets and
how they use ChainFactory.  The other day when I went to modify
ChainListener to add the catalog to the factory I discovered you
handled it in the rule set.  That was a nice touch!

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Re: [chain] Configuration idea

2004-10-21 Thread Joe Germuska
At 11:37 AM -0700 10/21/04, Craig McClanahan wrote:
Let's assume you're going to use this lookup mechanism a lot.  So, you
can create a shortcut for it like this:
  define name=lookup
className=org.apache.commons.chain.generic.LookupCommand/
and then, in your actual chain definitions, you can say:
  lookup name=foobar.chain/
Essentially, the implementation creates new Digester rules on the fly.
 Does that help?
It seems like it would -- and in any case, it's pretty cool!
Like I said, I'm probably jumping the gun myself asking about syntax changes.
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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread matthew.hawthorne
Kevin A. Burton wrote:
Listen... I'm sorry if we're trying to move too fast. We're a startup 
and on a very aggressive schedule. We're trying to get FeedParser to 1.0 
ASAP because its a critical portion of Rojo. Brad is a lead developer 
and its becoming difficult to synchronize our work without CVS commits. 
We're constantly having to coordinate our commits due to CVS 
limitations. If we were using a more anarchic revision control system 
like bitkeeper or arch this wouldn't be as much of a problem.

I apologize in advance if I'm out of line, but has anyone considered if 
the jakarta-commons-sandbox is truly the best place for [feedparser]?

Based on recent emails, it doesn't seem to be a good fit.
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RE: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
Yeah, the sandbox is not the best place for something that's on the
critical path for something else's release.

One suggestion: take feedparser in-house.  Finish it.  Ship your
product.  Then submit it back, probably right into the commons proper
(not sandbox), and possibly into the incubator if you want it to be a
non-commons jakarta project.  The discussion on where it should go will
take place at the time.  But for now, you'll have control and can work
at your own pace.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com


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Subject: Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

Kevin A. Burton wrote:
 Listen... I'm sorry if we're trying to move too fast. We're a startup
 and on a very aggressive schedule. We're trying to get FeedParser to
1.0
 ASAP because its a critical portion of Rojo. Brad is a lead developer
 and its becoming difficult to synchronize our work without CVS
commits.
 We're constantly having to coordinate our commits due to CVS
 limitations. If we were using a more anarchic revision control system
 like bitkeeper or arch this wouldn't be as much of a problem.


I apologize in advance if I'm out of line, but has anyone considered if
the jakarta-commons-sandbox is truly the best place for [feedparser]?

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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:00:56 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 When a new projects is created are you telling me that you don't give
 CVS commit to the lead developers? How would IBM feel if when they
 contributed Xerces that you wouldn't give their lead engineers access to
 CVS?

If you had gone through the incubation process
(http://incubator.apache.org) the way that IBM is doing for Derby, or
BEA is doing for Beehive, that is indeed what would have happened.
However, I suspect there would have been pushback on a project with
only two active developers, both working for the same company.

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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread David Graham
It might be helpful to look at the Warning Signs portion of this page:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html

Several of them seem to apply to feedparser.

David


--- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:00:56 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [snip]
  When a new projects is created are you telling me that you don't give
  CVS commit to the lead developers? How would IBM feel if when they
  contributed Xerces that you wouldn't give their lead engineers access
 to
  CVS?
 
 If you had gone through the incubation process
 (http://incubator.apache.org) the way that IBM is doing for Derby, or
 BEA is doing for Beehive, that is indeed what would have happened.
 However, I suspect there would have been pushback on a project with
 only two active developers, both working for the same company.
 
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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
matthew.hawthorne wrote:
Kevin A. Burton wrote:
Listen... I'm sorry if we're trying to move too fast. We're a startup 
and on a very aggressive schedule. We're trying to get FeedParser to 
1.0 ASAP because its a critical portion of Rojo. Brad is a lead 
developer and its becoming difficult to synchronize our work without 
CVS commits. We're constantly having to coordinate our commits due to 
CVS limitations. If we were using a more anarchic revision control 
system like bitkeeper or arch this wouldn't be as much of a problem.

I apologize in advance if I'm out of line, but has anyone considered 
if the jakarta-commons-sandbox is truly the best place for [feedparser]?

Based on recent emails, it doesn't seem to be a good fit.
I've had a bit of discussion about this with Sam Ruby and other people 
within Apache.  The FeedParser was too early to go though the incubator 
and I just really wanted a solid place to make a lot of progress at the 
time.

Anyway... opening this up might be a can of worms but it seems that the 
FeedParser would have to go through the incubator to make it into a project.

Kevin
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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Yeah, the sandbox is not the best place for something that's on the
critical path for something else's release.
 

The critical path is FeedParsers 1.0 release. We're just working very 
hard on it because we need it for work...

One suggestion: take feedparser in-house.  Finish it.  Ship your
product.  Then submit it back, probably right into the commons proper
(not sandbox), and possibly into the incubator if you want it to be a
non-commons jakarta project.  The discussion on where it should go will
take place at the time.  But for now, you'll have control and can work
at your own pace.
 

Man... this is very difficult. Back in the day it didn't have to be so 
hard... commons, incubator, sandbox...

What I need is a Apache contrib for dummies HOWTO
:)
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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Craig McClanahan wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:00:56 -0700, Kevin A. Burton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 

When a new projects is created are you telling me that you don't give
CVS commit to the lead developers? How would IBM feel if when they
contributed Xerces that you wouldn't give their lead engineers access to
CVS?
   

If you had gone through the incubation process
(http://incubator.apache.org) the way that IBM is doing for Derby, or
BEA is doing for Beehive, that is indeed what would have happened.
However, I suspect there would have been pushback on a project with
only two active developers, both working for the same company.
 

Yes... which is why I wanted a place to make forward progression until 
we're ready to push it through the incubator.

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Re: About MavenTagLibrary

2004-10-21 Thread Brett Porter
It's in the maven-jelly-tags cvs repository, part of the Maven project.
A Leg wrote:
Hi Paul
Yes but it is in package org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.jeez
and
MavenJellyContext.java
import org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary;
So I don't understand how it can work. Suppose some old jar is somewhere.
But after ?
Andre
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
This has certainly moved in the maven source-tree. For example, what  
about the following:
http://maven.apache.org/xref/org/apache/maven/jelly/tags/jeez/ 
MavenJeezTagLibrary.html

Jeez has not much tags of its own, I think... it's combining Werkz  
(also outside) and ant taglibs.

paul
Le 21 oct. 04, à 14:04, A Leg a écrit :
I don't succeed to find in CVS MavenTagLibrary.java
corresponding to
org.apache.maven.jelly.tags.maven.MavenTagLibrary
What's happen to this class ?


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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin A. Burton
David Graham wrote:
It might be helpful to look at the Warning Signs portion of this page:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html
Several of them seem to apply to feedparser.
 

I realize that a few of them apply but they also apply to most early 
projects. Our goal was to start building a community while it was under 
development and as we moved towards 1.0.

Its partly my fault in that I haven't had time to blog about FeedParser 
or attract more of a community.

Theres a HUGE effort behind RSS/Atom right now and we need to do a 
better job at getting FeedParser out there.

Right now its VERY stable and I feel a 1.0 is around the corner we're 
still trying to stabilize it (which is difficult since the specs keep 
changing).

Kevin
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 31838] New: - Guide (Current) link on home page is broken

2004-10-21 Thread bugzilla
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   Summary: Guide (Current) link on home page is broken
   Product: Commons
   Version: 1.6 Final
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   URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/digester/index.html
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The Guide (Current) link on the navigation pane/menu points to:

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I think this is what we want:
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/digester/commons-digester-
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RE: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Rory Winston

Several of them seem to apply to feedparser.


I realize that a few of them apply but they also apply to most early
projects. Our goal was to start building a community while it was under
development and as we moved towards 1.0.

Its partly my fault in that I haven't had time to blog about FeedParser
or attract more of a community.

Theres a HUGE effort behind RSS/Atom right now and we need to do a
better job at getting FeedParser out there.

Right now its VERY stable and I feel a 1.0 is around the corner we're
still trying to stabilize it (which is difficult since the specs keep
changing).




I can sympathise with your difficulties. Sometimes writing the code seems
like
the trivial part - the community building is a *lot* of work, albeit
essential.


Cheers,
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration project.properties

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 17:59:19

  Modified:configuration project.properties
  Log:
  Changed the default source target set by Maven to compile with the JDK 1.5 (Jira 
MPJAVA-22)
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.18  +2 -0  jakarta-commons/configuration/project.properties
  
  Index: project.properties
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/project.properties,v
  retrieving revision 1.17
  retrieving revision 1.18
  diff -u -r1.17 -r1.18
  --- project.properties12 Oct 2004 00:33:06 -  1.17
  +++ project.properties22 Oct 2004 00:59:19 -  1.18
  @@ -30,3 +30,5 @@
   
   maven.jar.override=on
   maven.jar.resources=conf/resources.jar
  +
  +maven.compile.source = 1.3
  
  
  

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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration/conf testDigesterBadXML.xml testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml testEqualDigester.xml testSequenceDigester.xml

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 18:19:52

  Modified:configuration/xdocs overview.xml
   configuration/conf testDigesterBadXML.xml
testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml
testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml
testEqualDigester.xml testSequenceDigester.xml
  Log:
  Removed the unused className attributes from the configuration descriptors
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.5   +6 -6  jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/overview.xml
  
  Index: overview.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/overview.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.4
  retrieving revision 1.5
  diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5
  --- overview.xml  12 Jul 2004 12:14:38 -  1.4
  +++ overview.xml  22 Oct 2004 01:19:52 -  1.5
  @@ -65,9 +65,9 @@
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1 ?
   
   configuration
  -  jndi className=org.apache.commons.configuration.JNDIConfiguration 
prefix=java:comp/env/
  -  properties className=org.apache.commons.configuration.PropertiesConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.properties/
  -  xml className=org.apache.commons.configuration.XMLConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.xml/
  +  jndi prefix=java:comp/env/
  +  properties fileName=conf/test.properties/
  +  xml fileName=conf/test.xml/
   /configuration
   ]]   
   /source
  @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@
 subsection name=Classic Properties File
   source
   ![CDATA[   
  -  properties className=org.apache.commons.configuration.PropertiesConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.properties/
  +  properties fileName=conf/test.properties/
   ]]   
   /source
   p
  @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@
 subsection name=XML Properties File
   source
   ![CDATA[   
  -  xml className=org.apache.commons.configuration.XMLConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.xml/
  +  xml fileName=conf/test.xml/
   ]]   
   /source 
   p
  @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@
 subsection name=JNDI Properties File
   source
   ![CDATA[   
  -  jndi className=org.apache.commons.configuration.JNDIConfiguration 
prefix=java:comp/env/
  +  jndi prefix=java:comp/env/
   ]]   
   /source 
   p
  
  
  
  1.3   +1 -7  jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterBadXML.xml
  
  Index: testDigesterBadXML.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterBadXML.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- testDigesterBadXML.xml12 Jul 2004 12:14:37 -  1.2
  +++ testDigesterBadXML.xml22 Oct 2004 01:19:52 -  1.3
  @@ -5,12 +5,6 @@
   
   configuration
 additional
  -xml className=org.apache.commons.configuration.HierarchicalXMLConfiguration 
fileName=testHierarchicalXMLConfiguration.xml/
  +hierarchicalXml fileName=testHierarchicalXMLConfiguration.xml/
  
   /configuration
  -
  -  
  -  
  -
  -
  -
  
  
  
  1.3   +2 -2  
jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml
  
  Index: testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml   12 Jul 2004 12:14:37 - 
 1.2
  +++ testDigesterConfigurationNamespaceAware.xml   22 Oct 2004 01:19:52 - 
 1.3
  @@ -2,6 +2,6 @@
   
   configuration xmlns:foo=namespace-one
  xmlns:bar=namespace-two
  -  foo:properties 
className=org.apache.commons.configuration.PropertiesConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.properties/
  -  bar:dom className=org.apache.commons.configuration.XMLConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.xml/
  +  foo:properties fileName=conf/test.properties/
  +  bar:xml fileName=conf/test.xml/
   /configuration
  
  
  
  1.3   +3 -3  
jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml
  
  Index: testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/conf/testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml12 Jul 2004 12:14:37 -  1.2
  +++ testDigesterConfigurationWJNDI.xml22 Oct 2004 01:19:52 -  1.3
  @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1 ?
   
   configuration
  -  jndi className=org.apache.commons.configuration.JNDIConfiguration 
prefix=java:comp/env/
  -  properties className=org.apache.commons.configuration.PropertiesConfiguration 
fileName=conf/test.properties/
  -  dom 

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs howto_compositeconfiguration.xml howto_configurationfactory.xml howto_properties.xml howto_xml.xml overview.xml

2004-10-21 Thread ebourg
ebourg  2004/10/21 18:40:49

  Modified:configuration/xdocs howto_compositeconfiguration.xml
howto_configurationfactory.xml howto_properties.xml
howto_xml.xml overview.xml
  Log:
  Removed the extra empty lines in the source blocks
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.2   +6 -14 
jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/howto_compositeconfiguration.xml
  
  Index: howto_compositeconfiguration.xml
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/howto_compositeconfiguration.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.1
  retrieving revision 1.2
  diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
  --- howto_compositeconfiguration.xml  24 Feb 2004 13:08:03 -  1.1
  +++ howto_compositeconfiguration.xml  22 Oct 2004 01:40:48 -  1.2
  @@ -20,15 +20,13 @@
Defaults are very simple.  You can just add them as your last 
configuration object, 
either through the ConfigurationFactory or manually:
/p
  - source
  -![CDATA[
  + source![CDATA[
   Configuration defaults = new PropertiesConfiguration(fileToDefaults);
   Configuration otherProperties = new PropertiesConfiguration(fileToOtherProperties);
   CompositeConfiguration cc = new CompositeConfiguration();
   cc.addConfiguration(otherProperties);
   cc.addDefaults(fileToDefaults);
  -]]
  - /source   
  +]]/source
/subsection

subsection name=Saving Changes
  @@ -39,20 +37,17 @@
the constructor of the CompositeConfiguration what 
Configuration
to save the changes via.  
/p
  - source
  -![CDATA[
  + source![CDATA[
   PropertiesConfiguration saveConfiguration = new 
PropertiesConfiguration(fileToSaveChangesIn);
   Configuration cc = new CompositeConfiguration(saveConfiguration);
   cc.setProperty(newProperty,new value);
   
   saveConfiguration.save();
  -]]
  - /source   
  +]]/source
p
Alternatively, you can just request the
inMemoryConfiguration that stores the changes:
  - source
  -![CDATA[
  + source![CDATA[
   Configuration changes = myCompositeConfiguration.getInMemoryConfiguration();
   DatabaseConfiguration config = new DatabaseConfiguration(datasource, 
configuration, key, value);
   for (Iterator i = changes.getKeys().iterator();i.hasNext()){
  @@ -60,10 +55,7 @@
Object value = changes.get(key);
config.setProperty(key,value);
   }
  -
  -
  -]]
  - /source   
  +]]/source
/p

/subsection   
  
  
  
  1.4   +14 -28
jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/howto_configurationfactory.xml
  
  Index: howto_configurationfactory.xml
  ===
  RCS file: 
/home/cvs/jakarta-commons/configuration/xdocs/howto_configurationfactory.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.3
  retrieving revision 1.4
  diff -u -r1.3 -r1.4
  --- howto_configurationfactory.xml12 Jul 2004 12:14:38 -  1.3
  +++ howto_configurationfactory.xml22 Oct 2004 01:40:48 -  1.4
  @@ -35,15 +35,13 @@
the properties are to be collected. The following 
listing shows
the content of this file:
/p
  - source
  -![CDATA[
  + source![CDATA[
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1 ?
   
   configuration
 properties fileName=usergui.properties/
   /configuration
  -]]
  - /source
  +]]/source
p
Definition files for codeConfigurationFactory/code 
are
normal XML files. The root element must be named
  @@ -65,14 +63,12 @@
Just create a new instance and set the name of the 
definition
file with the codesetConfigurationFileName()/code 
method.
/p
  - source
  -![CDATA[
  + source![CDATA[
   ConfigurationFactory factory = new ConfigurationFactory();
   URL configURL = new File(config.xml).toURL();
   factory.setConfigurationFileName(configURL.toString());
   Configuration config = factory.getConfiguration();
  -]]
  - /source
  +]]/source
p
As this code fragment shows the file name passed to 
the factory

Re: [math] Questions regarding probability distributions

2004-10-21 Thread F Norin

 Do you have any references for the quantum physics cases?  I certainly
 didn't specialize in quantum physics (plasma physics typically uses almost
 everything _but_ quantum physics), but I did get as far as a EE graduate
 course in QED and never encountered such probability models.  Maybe it's
 because I wasn't in a physics department or ever really encountered
 molecular models in what I was studying?

I don't have any references handy (not my area of expertise), but it's often 
mentioned as an application area in articles dealing with these 
distributions. For instance, I guess physics models that uses Brownian motion  
models could use these distributions as they do show up in connection with 
Brownian motion theory.


 Honestly, I doubt most of the users of Commons Math will be needing this
 kind of distribution, but I guess if we merge in (parts of) Colt, we might
 end up attracting that kind of user.  


As a matter of fact, many concepts in probability theory that at first sight 
may seem rather obscure can actually be used for practical applications. 
Stochastic modeling of the financial markets is a good example where very 
advanced mathematics is actually put to practical use.

/FN

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Re: [math] Questions regarding probability distributions

2004-10-21 Thread Al Chou
--- F Norin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have any references for the quantum physics cases?  I certainly
  didn't specialize in quantum physics (plasma physics typically uses almost
  everything _but_ quantum physics), but I did get as far as a EE graduate
  course in QED and never encountered such probability models.  Maybe it's
  because I wasn't in a physics department or ever really encountered
  molecular models in what I was studying?
 
 I don't have any references handy (not my area of expertise), but it's often 
 mentioned as an application area in articles dealing with these 
 distributions. For instance, I guess physics models that uses Brownian motion
 models could use these distributions as they do show up in connection with 
 Brownian motion theory.

Thanks.  My engineering physics curriculum was a little non-standard (when
compared to physics departments' programs), and the statistical thermodynamics
course didn't actually cover statistical mechanics (hence the peculiar course
title, I suppose), which is where I presume one would ordinarily encounter the
analysis of Brownian motion.


  Honestly, I doubt most of the users of Commons Math will be needing this
  kind of distribution, but I guess if we merge in (parts of) Colt, we might
  end up attracting that kind of user.
 
 As a matter of fact, many concepts in probability theory that at first sight 
 may seem rather obscure can actually be used for practical applications. 
 Stochastic modeling of the financial markets is a good example where very 
 advanced mathematics is actually put to practical use.

Ah, interesting point.  I only just learned a teeny bit about integration of
stochastic equations in portfolio value projection from a couple of C/C++
Users Journal articles earlier this year.  A graduate complex analysis course
I sat in on just the first week of started out with numerous examples of
applications to reasonably real-world problems that I never would have thought
of (not the ones I learned about in other courses that used complex analysis,
for sure).  Math certainly does have an uncanny way of connecting both with
other areas of itself and the real world.

I think Commons Math will be unusually hard pressed (compared to other math
libraries) to choose what we feel are the most useful / commonly used features
for inclusion in the library.  If we were working on a more general purpose
math library, the constraints obviously wouldn't be as tight.



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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Corey Scott
{snip} 
 What I need is a Apache contrib for dummies HOWTO

I couldnt agree more with this.  I am new here and I had somethings to
add to the email project recently but after searching the commons and
sandox project I was confused with exactly what to do and why. a
decent HOWTO would help immensely.

Just me 2 cents

-Corey

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Re: [feedparser] Getting Brad Neuberg CVS commit

2004-10-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:51:59 +0800, Corey Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 {snip}
  What I need is a Apache contrib for dummies HOWTO
 
 I couldnt agree more with this.  I am new here and I had somethings to
 add to the email project recently but after searching the commons and
 sandox project I was confused with exactly what to do and why. a
 decent HOWTO would help immensely.

This would be the obvious place to start:

http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors.html

This isn't what you're looking for?

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 Just me 2 cents
 
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too many TCP connections using httpClient?

2004-10-21 Thread Massimo Signori
Hi everybody, this is my code: 

private void notifyTimeServer() {
//
logger.debug(notifyTimeServer,  + timerURL);
//
HttpClient client = new HttpClient();
HttpMethod method = new GetMethod(timerURL);
int statusCode = -1;
for (int attempt = 0; statusCode == -1  attempt 
MAX_CALLING_ATTEMPTS; attempt++) {
//
logger.debug(Establishing connection);
//
try {
statusCode = client.executeMethod(method);
}
catch (Exception e) {
//
logger.error(Error calling jsp);
//
}
}
if (statusCode != -1) {
//
logger.debug(Connection estabilished);
//
byte[] responseBody = method.getResponseBody();
method.releaseConnection();
}
} 

I was looking with TCPView the number of TCP connections that this piece of
code is opening when talking to the server and I saw that opens an
incredible number of connections. All TCP connections are in TIME_WAIT
state.
Is there something wrong in this code? Or I'm forgetting something?

Best regards,

Massimo


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Re: too many TCP connections using httpClient?

2004-10-21 Thread Ortwin Glück
Make sure to *always* call method.releaseConnection() e.g. a finally 
block. Even if the request was unsuccessful.

Massimo Signori wrote:
Hi everybody, this is my code: 

private void notifyTimeServer() {
//
logger.debug(notifyTimeServer,  + timerURL);
//
HttpClient client = new HttpClient();
HttpMethod method = new GetMethod(timerURL);
int statusCode = -1;
for (int attempt = 0; statusCode == -1  attempt 
MAX_CALLING_ATTEMPTS; attempt++) {
//
logger.debug(Establishing connection);
//
try {
statusCode = client.executeMethod(method);
}
catch (Exception e) {
//
logger.error(Error calling jsp);
//
}
}
if (statusCode != -1) {
//
logger.debug(Connection estabilished);
//
byte[] responseBody = method.getResponseBody();
method.releaseConnection();
}
}	  

I was looking with TCPView the number of TCP connections that this piece of
code is opening when talking to the server and I saw that opens an
incredible number of connections. All TCP connections are in TIME_WAIT
state.
Is there something wrong in this code? Or I'm forgetting something?
Best regards,
Massimo
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Re: too many TCP connections using httpClient?

2004-10-21 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
Massimo,
Calling HttpMethod#releaseConnection() does not guarantee that the
active connection will be closed. HttpClient _always_ tries its best to
reuse open connections. Whenever a connection can be kept alive,
HttpClient will keep it alive. That effectively means that when an
HttpClient instance goes out of scope, the underlying connection (or
several connections) may be left open until GC-ed. 

Therefore, we recommend to have only one HttpClient instance per
application/component. New HttpClient instance per request approach is
HIGHLY discouraged:

class MyCommunicationComponent {
  
  private HttpClient agent = new HttpClient();

  private void doStuff() {
HttpMethod method = new GetMethod(timerURL);
this.agent.executeMethod(method);
...
  }
}

If you absolutely have to create new instances of HttpClient we
recommend explicitly shutting down the connection manager, whenever you
are done using an HttpClient instance:


class MyCommunicationComponent {
  
  private void doStuff() {

MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager connman = 
  new MultiThreadedHttpConnectionManager();
HttpClient agent = new HttpClient(connman);
HttpMethod method = new GetMethod(timerURL);
agent.executeMethod(method);
...
connman.shutdown();
  }
}

Hope this helps

Oleg


On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:34, Massimo Signori wrote:
 Hi everybody, this is my code: 
 
 private void notifyTimeServer() {
 //
 logger.debug(notifyTimeServer,  + timerURL);
 //
 HttpClient client = new HttpClient();
 HttpMethod method = new GetMethod(timerURL);
 int statusCode = -1;
 for (int attempt = 0; statusCode == -1  attempt 
 MAX_CALLING_ATTEMPTS; attempt++) {
 //
 logger.debug(Establishing connection);
 //
 try {
 statusCode = client.executeMethod(method);
 }
 catch (Exception e) {
 //
 logger.error(Error calling jsp);
 //
 }
 }
 if (statusCode != -1) {
 //
 logger.debug(Connection estabilished);
 //
 byte[] responseBody = method.getResponseBody();
 method.releaseConnection();
 }
 }   
 
 I was looking with TCPView the number of TCP connections that this piece of
 code is opening when talking to the server and I saw that opens an
 incredible number of connections. All TCP connections are in TIME_WAIT
 state.
 Is there something wrong in this code? Or I'm forgetting something?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Massimo
 
 
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RE: Is it possible to send and email using HTTPCLIENT?

2004-10-21 Thread Steve Johnson
How about FTP through an HTTP proxy?

Thanks,
Steve

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From: Gerdes, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Subject: RE: Is it possible to send and email using HTTPCLIENT?

Thanks! 

-Original Message-
From: Roland Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:03 AM
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Subject: Re: Is it possible to send and email using HTTPCLIENT?

Hello Tom,

no it is not. Protocols for transferring EMail are SMTP or IMAP.
HttpClient implements HTTP.

Browsers do lots more than just HTTP, that's why most of them chose to
implement mailing functionality as well. But HttpClient is intentionally
focused on HTTP alone, which is tricky enough.

There is a standard Java API for sending EMail in J2EE:
http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/
You can probably get it running with J2SE as well.
It includes support for multipart mail:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/api/javax/mail/package-tree.html
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/api/javax/mail/Multipart.html

hope that helps,
  Roland






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Can I just send a multipart post to an email server with attached files
using Httpclient?  Would this work for an email?  If so, does anyone
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