Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)
Why not start with using photos of the art as your screensaver. Select a folder of art so that the pictures will fade in and fade to the next photo as people walk by. That could spark some curiosity. Tell them how easy it is to do that, then show them how. Then clear off the desktop and leave a link, alias, folder--some way for a passer-by to go directly into an easy to use catalog. Do you have a catalog program that works OK as read-only? Do you have a projector? Betty You have to make it usefully important. I would make art-related content very accessible. This may not happen until you do get it displaying your art inventory. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
> >He's signed off, so he didn't see any of that. > > > >What a waste of effort. > > Thanks for your comment and your sentiment, Eric, but, if you > look > closely at my post, you'll see that I cc'd him. That was my way of > taking > such an eventuality into account. > > Bob Bob, can I call you Bob? As someone who's probably been over the top on more than one occasion in my years on the list, I gotta say, you even shamed me tonight with your bizarrely malicious rant towards someone who, at most, expressed disappointment in the quality of his entertainment. Dear god, lighten the f#$% up. Go watch Ultimate Fighting or something. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Advice about a Mac
Dan Mac OS 10.4.x is VERY stable and dependable. I's either get one now, or do as Betty suggests. Get one with OS 10.4 installed and the bonus of a free upgrade to 10.5. Phil Marchetti Full Time Mac consultant On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Dan Blum wrote: Hello all: After many years as a PC user, I've decided to move to a MacBook Pro. I've never used a Mac, so I don't really know the advantages of any operating system version over another. Given that, is it worth it to wait until October for OSX 10.5 to come out, or should I go ahead and buy one now? My current computer is old, but still works, so waiting a couple of months isn't a problem for me. Thanks Dan * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
Thanks for your comment and your sentiment, Eric, but, if you look closely at my post, you'll see that I cc'd him. That was my way of taking such an eventuality into account. Whatever. His beliefs are clear and as I see it there's no need to beat it into the ground. If he doesn't want to be here I respect his decision. We list members definitely have diverse backgrounds, beliefs, and lifestyles. But that is one of the things that makes this an entertaining place to visit. If everyone here was a white male Republican bicycle riding gamer, the discussion would be pretty bland. Luckily that's not the case. I think we all bring strengths to this forum, and we should continue to maintain our normal standards of quality and effectiveness. In a family friendly mode. There actually isn't room for profanity here. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Computer fan
Have you done a good job of removing accumulated dust? Dust acts as an insulator, and components covered with dust will heat up to a higher temperature, thereby causing thermostatic fans to speed up. Fred Holmes At 09:28 PM 8/19/2007, Robert wrote: >I have a Dell XPS desktop PC that is about 4 or 5 years old. I believe in >keeping the computer running all the time (because this household computer has >multiple user profiles, is used frequently, and takes about 10 minutes to boot >up in Windows XP Home). > >Lately, a fan is making some noise. Not a screeching or scraping noise, just >an ordinary fan noise that gets louder and softer at random over a cycle of >about 3 -- 5 minutes. (When the computer is used with nearly 100% CPU the fan >noise understandably increases, but the noise will increase for a minute or >two when there is is little CPU activity and then decrease.) I don't know if >the noise originates from the CPU fan or the power supply fan. > >Should I be worried? >Using Lavalys Everest, the following is measured during low fan activity: > >CPU fan: 1162 RPM >Chassis fan: 1756 RPM > >Higher activity: >CPU fan: 1464 RPM >Chassis fan: 2129 RPM > >Temperature (lower activity): >Motherboard: 39 C. >CPU: 48 C. > >Temperature (higher activity): >Motherboard: 40 C. >CPU: 60 C. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Computer fan
I have a Dell XPS desktop PC that is about 4 or 5 years old. I believe in keeping the computer running all the time (because this household computer has multiple user profiles, is used frequently, and takes about 10 minutes to boot up in Windows XP Home). Lately, a fan is making some noise. Not a screeching or scraping noise, just an ordinary fan noise that gets louder and softer at random over a cycle of about 3 -- 5 minutes. (When the computer is used with nearly 100% CPU the fan noise understandably increases, but the noise will increase for a minute or two when there is is little CPU activity and then decrease.) I don't know if the noise originates from the CPU fan or the power supply fan. Should I be worried? Using Lavalys Everest, the following is measured during low fan activity: CPU fan: 1162 RPM Chassis fan: 1756 RPM Higher activity: CPU fan: 1464 RPM Chassis fan: 2129 RPM Temperature (lower activity): Motherboard: 39 C. CPU: 48 C. Temperature (higher activity): Motherboard: 40 C. CPU: 60 C. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
At 05:46 PM 8/19/07, Eric S. Sande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thinking clearly and logically is hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it. He's signed off, so he didn't see any of that. What a waste of effort. Thanks for your comment and your sentiment, Eric, but, if you look closely at my post, you'll see that I cc'd him. That was my way of taking such an eventuality into account. Bob Thinking clearly and logically is hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it. OK End * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
Thinking clearly and logically is hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it. He's signed off, so he didn't see any of that. What a waste of effort. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
>My question is a simple one. When did this list get hijacked by >extremists who think it's a forum to insist on socialized medicine and to >bash Christians? This list frequently goes a little far afield in August. A few weeks ago one List member noted this and posted a provocative Mac vs Windows link, but got no takers. (Even though the material cited was quite good). This year health care and Bill Nye have gotten a good run. While literally not on topic I think these discussions reflect the context in which we do our computing. The reason there were so many posts is that people are becoming increasingly frustrated my the USA's mismanagement of technology and over emphasis on favoring a small number of entrenched, anti-innovative corporations. Earlier today I was replaying a podcast of a Science Friday interview with Thomas Friedman about his recent book "The World is Flat." An important part of Friedman book is a warning about the USA's mismanagement of technology. Much like the post here about Gov. Rick Perry's line-item veto of $2.7 million of education funding. Friedman spoke of Bush's slashing of funding for the National Science Foundation and scientific research in general. Friedman decried a management style that did not value asking questions because all questions were answered by ideology (wasn't this in vogue during a period of history called the Dark Ages?). Friedman also pointed out that if the USA stops getting it right the rest of the world will get it right and the USA will be left behind in the world of technology and the general world economy. So in a bigger sense the recent discussion of health care and Bill Nye is about broken computers. Just not computers that are already broken. Some of us are trying to figure out how to keep our computers from being broken in the future. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] google search for text
This was discussed at great length on NPR a few months ago. They said it was a great way to do exactly what Tom said, get an idea of the book so you can see if you want to buy. I believe that the reason Music producers and Hollywood want to limit the publics access to their product is they want them to buy one size fits all stuff, no customizing or choices (al a cart on music) Stewart At 08:03 PM 8/19/2007, you wrote: Just yesterday I was reading pages from a scanned book about Apple's iLife suite at Google Books. Depending on the copyright status, the number of pages available will be limited. Since the book I was looking at was recent there were large gaps. Some of the information I was looking for was absent. But there were other books on the topic. So I was able to find out what I needed to know. They provide links to order the book and other related Google ads. It is a great resource for looking a book over before ordering it on line. Similar to the scanned pages that Amazon sometimes provides, but Google was much easier to use and not as sluggish. If I decide to use iLife for an upcoming project, I will definitely buy several of the books I say on Google Books. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
At 05:29 PM 8/18/07, Jeff Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm going to remove myself from membership from this list. Buh-bye! My question is a simple one. When did this list get hijacked by extremists who think it's a forum to insist on socialized medicine and to bash Christians? I have a BETTER question. When did this list get hijacked by whining censors and Das Topikpolizei propagandists who use hyperbolic terms like "hijacked" and "extremists" and "bash?" If the list had been hijacked, then, by definition, nobody else would be able to discuss anything the hijackers didn't want discussed. So, your characterization is just plain bizzonga. With flies all over it. I actually wanted to say "bullshit," which would have been more in character for me, but there's a kind of unwritten rule on this list that we keep those kinds of vulgarities to a minimum. But, this time, I looked at that ol' unwritten rule, and I said, "Fuck it!" What does that have to do with computers? Who cares? If you don't like the subject of a post, then delete it, and leave the rest of us alone to read it, delete it, or respond to it, as WE choose. For the record...I don't know any Christian who thinks the moon actually lights up. We don't think it's made of cheese either. What does that have to do with computers? But it really doesn't matter, because this is a computer list, or at least it used to be. It still is, your opinion to the contrary notwithstanding. My personal beliefs should never be discussed and neither should yours. That's just YOUR personal belief. According to you, you shouldn't have discussed it. But, then, that's just MY personal belief. Who cares what your political views are? Who wants to know, and why do you ask? It's too bad. B-b-b-b-b-b-b-bad. I wish there was a moderator who would take control because I don't want to hear liberals spouting their lunacy any more than I want to read the extreme right venting theirs. That's just YOUR personal belief. Which you said you shouldn't discuss. The fact of the matter is that you want to censor and control the content of an unmoderated list, which is the Internet equivalent of trying to divide by zero. The list is unmoderated, which means people can say whatever the hell they want, about whatever subject they want, and NOBODY has to read any given post, and NOBODY has to respond to any given post. If Steve wants to talk about theocrats in Waco, and nobody wants to engage him in that subject, then his thread will die a quick death. If people want to respond by discussing the interface (if any) of science and religion, then the thread will last until it finishes, or morphs into something else. You are free to delete every single post by Steve, if you want, and every single post by those who discuss the Bill Nye/Waco post, if you want. No part of that discussion will be at your expense. You don't have to read a word of it. BUT: You have no right to deprive those who enjoy that discussion the pleasure of it, simply because you have this infantile expectation that an unmoderated list is automatically supposed to conform to your subjectively pure and orthodox notion of it. I want to learn more about computers, and I want to help others if I can. Then why are you sulking and pouting that you are going to pick up your marbles and go home, just because you are powerless to prevent a discussion AMONG OTHERS, which discussion you are free to ignore with impunity? It sounds like you are more interested in everybody talking about only YOUR PERSONAL narrow range of subjects, and nothing else, rather than being of "help" to anyone. You would rather control us than help us, it looks like, and, now that you have discovered you can't control us, you're going to take a powder. As Pee Wee Herman would say: "Ral mature!" A good moderator would insist that we stick to the topic. That's just YOUR personal belief. Actually, a good moderator would have a witty, clever, pithy, and funny remark to make about Bill Nye, Waco theocrats, and/or Steve Rigby. He or she might even be vulgar. I would be thrilled if that would happen. You must be easily entertained. Obviously there isn't a moderator. No, there isn't one. Instead, there are about 100 of us. We moderate the list en masse. And we do a pretty damned good job, too. This is no place for me. That's just YOUR personal belief. I know you don't care. No fair. You peeked. I don't care that you don't care. Which is why you took pains to point it out. I wanted to voice my opinion about it before I left. What does that have to do with computers? It's too bad... As I see it, YOU are the piteous character here, and not us. For those of you who do stick to topic of computers and I know you are here. Where?
Re: [CGUYS] google search for text
>I was listening to some old WAMU shows, one of them >was about Google scanning and OCR'ing books and the >legal arguments that were going on between the >publishers and Google, etc. How did that ever turn >out? Just yesterday I was reading pages from a scanned book about Apple's iLife suite at Google Books. Depending on the copyright status, the number of pages available will be limited. Since the book I was looking at was recent there were large gaps. Some of the information I was looking for was absent. But there were other books on the topic. So I was able to find out what I needed to know. They provide links to order the book and other related Google ads. It is a great resource for looking a book over before ordering it on line. Similar to the scanned pages that Amazon sometimes provides, but Google was much easier to use and not as sluggish. If I decide to use iLife for an upcoming project, I will definitely buy several of the books I say on Google Books. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Advice about a Mac
> I'd wait, if for nothing else to make sure you get the newest os at the > cheapest price. If you do decide to get it now, upgrading the OS in X is > painless and easy. I'd buy the current Mac with 10.4--AFTER the release date for 10.5/Leopard is announced. That way you have the current OS and a FREE upgrade to the new one when it comes out. You'll have the chance to get used to Tiger, and can wait until Leopard is tweaked to 10.5.1. My problem is that I want a free Nano. That deal expires Sept. 16th. The new OS release date probably won't be announced until the following week. But a free Nano is worth more than a free OS--$199 vs $129. Apple usually gives a free upgrade to a new OS to buyers who purchase after the announcement and before new Macs are shipped with the new OS. That's how we went from Jaguar to Panther free. Watch the Apple site and Apple rumor sites for details. BOGO!! Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] staying on-topic
Nevermind, found it. Mike On 8/19/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understood someone else owned this list? Am I incorrect? > > Mike > > On 8/18/07, Eric S. Sande <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > >The topic isn't 'computers', it's the Computer Guys show. The show no > > >longer exists(?), so unless we can figure out a way to kill off the > > list, > > >we're all stuck with the off-topic stuff. > > > > Beg to differ. Tom runs this list. The focus has always been on > > solving > > people's computer problems, with general discussion about why an Amiga > > is superior to a Mac or PC. And why gamers are so much more hip and > > elite than mere casual users. > > > > ;-) > > > > But it was never officially part of the WAMU radio show. > > > > I've been a member of this list for many years. How many, I don't know, > > > > maybe Tom can enlighten us on stats. But until Tom shuts it down, the > > list belongs to him. > > > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > > YourNewAddress > > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > > * RSS at > > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] staying on-topic
I understood someone else owned this list? Am I incorrect? Mike On 8/18/07, Eric S. Sande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The topic isn't 'computers', it's the Computer Guys show. The show no > >longer exists(?), so unless we can figure out a way to kill off the list, > >we're all stuck with the off-topic stuff. > > Beg to differ. Tom runs this list. The focus has always been on solving > people's computer problems, with general discussion about why an Amiga > is superior to a Mac or PC. And why gamers are so much more hip and > elite than mere casual users. > > ;-) > > But it was never officially part of the WAMU radio show. > > I've been a member of this list for many years. How many, I don't know, > maybe Tom can enlighten us on stats. But until Tom shuts it down, the > list belongs to him. > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] staying on-topic
Amiga! I thought the VIC 20 was the top of the list. Just wish my Internet Provider would listen to me a support that system. Eric S. Sande wrote: Beg to differ. Tom runs this list. The focus has always been on solving people's computer problems, with general discussion about why an Amiga is superior to a Mac or PC. And why gamers are so much more hip and elite than mere casual users. ;-) -- Ken Hansen * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the whole sordid mess
On Aug 19, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Daniel Else wrote: You asked for it, now here is the whole story, the text of the Waco Tribune-Herald post-Apocalype account of the McClennan Community College incident (it hardly seems worthy of being called a "confrontation"). In defense of the good folks of Waco, Bill's presentation (actually both of them, for there were two shows at 1:30 and 7:00 on April 5, 2006) seems to have been received rather well. Good work, dude. And, just to keep on topic, that was a fine example of the use of computers and how we can delve into issues to see how our computing know how can bring forth answers and provide enlightenment and illumination. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
On Aug 19, 2007, at 2:43 AM, mike wrote: OK, I did click the link..it sent me to someone's blog. When I clicked on the trib article from Waco, I got an error page. So my question is has anyone actually read the article? Apparently so. The Waco newspaper appears to have deleted the article from their website although it is said to have been printed in the newspaper which has almost no distribution beyond Waco. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Pro Apple Agitprop (on topic!)
On Aug 16, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: You have to make it usefully important. I would make art-related content very accessible. This may not happen until you do get it displaying your art inventory. I see that your message that was sent on August 16 finally hit my inbox today, the 19th. Some of those internet pipes must have needed to get a little Roto-Rooting done so your message could get through. Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] google search for text
I was listening to some old WAMU shows, one of them was about Google scanning and OCR'ing books and the legal arguments that were going on between the publishers and Google, etc. How did that ever turn out? -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God 'Science Guy'
Jeff Morris > My question is a simple one. When did this list get > hijacked by extremists who think it's a forum to > insist on socialized medicine and to bash Christians? I started the thread about medicine looking for a link to get information about nationalized medicine versus the status quo. I really didn't want to have a discussion here. > What does that have to do with computers? > For the record...I don't know any Christian who thinks > the moon actually lights up. We don't think it's made > of cheese either. But it really doesn't matter, because > this is a computer list, or at least it used to be. My > personal beliefs should never be discussed and neither > should yours. Who cares what your political views are? I know of more than a few people who take the bible literally, no analogies are involved. I don't have a clue if they are a majority or just a vocal minority. As you pointed out, that is not really an appropriate discussion for here. An appropriate discussion could be how technology impacts the discussion. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Imagination is more important than knowledge! - Einstein * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
Nicely put for those who exercise their delete finger. I have enjoyed the health care back-and-forth, and even the Bill Nye insert. I went to the posting and saw where the Waco paper had pulled the article from their website. See, computerspeak. This is a great list-serve. Use that old delete button. All of us can slide things back on topic anytime. It's called having a question and pressing send. The responses will follow. MB On Aug 18, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Michel Lowe wrote: No offense to the Windows or Mac fanatics, but when I see a thread that I'm not so interested in I don't feel the necessity to read every follow up. I've discovered the great utility of the delete key. It bothers me naught if members want to talk about health care or football or politics or religion. We usually get off on these tangents from a computer- related starting point. For the most part the list members are a pretty thoughtful bunch and even when I disagree I can still learn something interesting if only that we are a heterogeneous group with a diversity of opinions. And there's always that delete key... -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric S. Sande Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:30 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy" I think he enjoyed the computer talk here, but didn't like some of the people. Well, he seems to prefer orthodoxy to anarchy. I don't think the medicine discussion belongs here either, and what they do or don't do in Waco is a matter of supreme indifference to me. But I know how to read selectively, and for the most part this list stays on topic. ** ** * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ** ** * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Bill Nye, the whole sordid mess
You asked for it, now here is the whole story, the text of the Waco Tribune-Herald post-Apocalype account of the McClennan Community College incident (it hardly seems worthy of being called a "confrontation"). In defense of the good folks of Waco, Bill's presentation (actually both of them, for there were two shows at 1:30 and 7:00 on April 5, 2006) seems to have been received rather well. I'm also including a much more recent story about the demise of the state-funded lecture program that brought Bill to the MCC. Bur first, the original story: The Science Guy is entertaining and provocative at MCC lecture Thursday, April 06, 2006 By Tim Woods Waco Tribune-Herald staff writer Audience members who expected to see Bill Nye The Science Guy conduct experiments and wow their children received quite a surprise Wednesday when Nye spoke at McLennan Community College. Nye instead addressed such topics as Mars exploration, global warming and energy consumption, particularly oil and gas. He even ruffled a few religious feathers along the way. The scientist with a background in stand-up and sketch comedy kept spectators interested, entertained and at ease with his funny, sometimes hilarious, delivery. Speaking as part of MCCs Distinguished Lecturer Series, Nye spoke to two audiences, one at 1:30 p.m. and the second at 7 p.m., of about 600 each. He said the first audience, though littered with young children listening to some rather adult scientific topics, was very supportive. The second group also was rapt from the beginning, greeting the scientist with a raucous standing ovation upon his introduction. You havent heard the presentation yet! Nye told them. Opening with a discussion of Mars and his hopes for further discovery on the neighboring planet, Nye encouraged the audience to take interest in discovery and change the world, a mantra he repeated throughout. Nye indicated that the presence of water in Mars atmosphere - evidenced by the planets ability to form frost - leads him to believe that there is a strong possibility that the planet once supported life. The Emmy-winning scientist angered a few audience members when he criticized literal interpretation of the biblical verse Genesis 1:16, which reads: God made two great lights - the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. He pointed out that the sun, the greater light, is but one of countless stars and that the lesser light is the moon, which really is not a light at all, rather a reflector of light. A number of audience members left the room at that point, visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence. We believe in a God! exclaimed one woman as she left the room with three young children. Nye also was critical of what he said was governmental agencies lack of action, even lack of understanding, in protecting the Earth from global warming and wasted resources. Nyes educational science show won 28 Emmy awards during its television run from 1992-98. It seemed most in attendance were pleased to hear Nye speak, and some were even awed by the presence of a childhood icon. How cool is that, to be face to face with the man, Bill Nye? said Jared McClure, who worked sound and video for the event. And hes funny, too. And Now, the Other Story MCC board mulls tough options to handle state funding cut 798 words 20 July 2007 By Tim Woods Waco Tribune-Herald staff writer The McLennan Community College board of trustees met Thursday to discuss their budget options following Gov. Rick Perry's June 15 line-item veto, which will take $2.7 million in funding over the next two years from the school. After looking at six budget proposals presented by MCC's administration, the board agreed on two things: They have no good options and they have no interest in raising taxes. In considering the proposals, the board discussed making up for the lost funds through raising tuition, which would hit students in the pocketbook; not giving faculty and staff their standard raises, which could anger MCC employees; or raising taxes, which would come on the heels of a $74.5 million bond McLennan County voters approved for the school in November. Whatever route the board decides to go, budget cuts will be part of the formula, officials said. Currently, the school has the seventh-highest tuition out of the state's 50 community college districts, and the 34th-highest tax rate. "There are no good choices here," MCC president Dennis Michaelis said. "Raising taxes isn't a good choice, but neither is raising tuition." Board members ultimately appeared to agree that they want to avoid raising taxes if at all possible. "I don't want to raise taxes for the citizens of McLennan County, after all they've already done for us," board member Randy Cox said. "I don't want to heap any more on them." While acknowledging that he agree
Re: [CGUYS] Canada
Of course it is not socialism, I merely was pointing out that it historically inaccurate to deny that socialists deserve the lion share of credit for struggling for it in the rest of the world. And that fact is enough in and of itself for people of a not-uncommon mindset to oppose it. (Btw, I don't think there is anyone smarter in the world about social and economic party than the Swedish Socialdemocratic Party) - Original Message From: b s-w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:41:52 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Canada Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that nearly everybody wants isn't socialism. It isn't welfare, since we will be paying for it, only we will pay significantly less than with the current for-profit system. It's smart fiscal policy when you can improve service and reduce price; doesn't matter whether it's a private or public system, or combination of both, as long as it works better, i.e. more effectively and economically, than what we have. Smart fiscal policy makes sense at home, in the community, nationally, and internationally. That means getting what we pay for at the best quality we can afford, at the best price. It also means that you don't go into debt to pay for necessities and leave that debt for your children to repay. This applies to health care as well as electronics choices and purchases, and many other fiscal/economic decisions we all need to make. Betty > Admission of Interest:Paula, I AM a socialist, hopefullly a thoughful and > knowledgeable one. I personally > think that national healtcare is too important to use a means of scoring > cheap political points > towards a larger agenda. Even so, I have some observations on is nat.health > care 'as' socialism... > > Socialism is used a as bugaboo in this country synonymoulsy with Communism, > you might as well > say Satanic - they both start with 'S'... In the rest of the world, even > conservatives will admit the differences > (e.g. commitment to democracy) > > There is no question that all aspects of the welfare state including are > historically associated with political > movements associated with the political Left which in most countries are > socialists. Health care is no > exception. However (!), national health care always had a broad base of > support, everywhere outside > the US, because even rich people... 10.38 viernes - Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Canada
I think the Netherlands, Sweden, West Germany, even France in some ways are preferable models but Canada does have something going for it. A national health insurance (with essentially doctors) might be more sellable. There is alot of objective evidence that one thing our government does well is efficiently run insurance programs. - Original Message From: rlsimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:13:04 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Canada The model to follow is not Canada ...it's the Netherlands !! -Original Message- From: b s-w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Canada Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that nearly everybody wants isn't socialism. It isn't welfare, since we will be paying for it, only we will pay significantly less than with the current for-profit system. It's smart fiscal policy when you can improve service and reduce price; doesn't matter whether it's a private or public system, or combination of both, as long as it works better, i.e. more effectively and economically, than what we have. Smart fiscal policy makes sense at home, in the community, nationally, and internationally. That means getting what we pay for at the best quality we can afford, at the best price. It also means that you don't go into debt to pay for necessities and leave that debt for your children to repay. This applies to health care as well as electronics choices and purchases, and many other fiscal/economic decisions we all need to make. Betty > Admission of Interest:Paula, I AM a socialist, hopefullly a thoughful > and knowledgeable one. I personally think that national healtcare is > too important to use a means of scoring cheap political points towards > a larger agenda. Even so, I have some observations on is nat.health > care 'as' socialism... > > Socialism is used a as bugaboo in this country synonymoulsy with > Communism, you might as well say Satanic - they both start with 'S'... > In the rest of the world, even conservatives will admit the > differences (e.g. commitment to democracy) > > There is no question that all aspects of the welfare state including > are historically associated with political movements associated with > the political Left which in most countries are socialists. Health care > is no exception. However (!), national health care always had a broad > base of support, everywhere outside the US, because even rich > people... * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
So my question is has anyone actually read the article? That's an excellent question. I haven't, but it appears that this might have happened. I find it hard to believe that hundreds of Internet references could be wrong. :-) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
