Re: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem
But, Now, When I try to open many(not all at once) of my programs, I get the error message 'DestroyWindow could not be located in dynamic link library user32.dll.'. User32.dll is part of Windows. It's either been damaged or replaced by something less desirable, and you need to repair or reinstall Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, it reported a different IP address than either of the two (primary and secondary) that we are supposed to use for OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220). Rather, it reported 208.69.32.13. Is there some sort of address translation going on here??? Ditto. So whatever Doxpara is reporting is worth zip. You didn't check whois: 208.69.32.13 is OpenDNS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
Well, I did use Karen Kenworthy's whois utility which reported No database entry for 208.69.32.13. Is there a generic way to check whois? I'll try http://www.whois.com. OK, I've done that. The only dialog I find, which is well hidden, accepts domain names, but not IP addresses. OK, now knowing that it might work, I typed in the IP address into the box for the domain name, and I did get the response that it's OpenDNS. Who knew that the instructions are incorrect? So the OpenDNS-provided IP addresses for DNS lookup are just redirectors to the actual servers' IP addresss? Fred Holmes At 06:28 AM 7/11/2008, Chris Dunford wrote: When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, it reported a different IP address than either of the two (primary and secondary) that we are supposed to use for OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220). Rather, it reported 208.69.32.13. Is there some sort of address translation going on here??? Ditto. So whatever Doxpara is reporting is worth zip. You didn't check whois: 208.69.32.13 is OpenDNS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Desktop
I just googled. These are ATI files left over from an ATI update. I would try downloading the latest version of your graphics driver, etc. and (re)installing. Is your laptop is under warranty? You might want to report the problem to the vendor. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Rob Fleetwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I recently purchased a new Lenovo desktop with 4 gig of ram, XP, a 32 GB hard drive and a lot of other accoutrements. Unfortunately, it has developed a habit of displaying the following error messages each time it boots, one for mom.exe and the other for ccc.exe. The specific error message, in both cases is as follows: Application Error - The application failed to initialize properly (0xc135). Click on OK to terminate the application Once OK is clicked in both error messages (one after the other), the machine proceeds to operate normally, as far as I can tell but I cannot discover how to get rid of these error messages. In my reading on the net, I saw one suggestion that they man be spyware or even viruses so we have scanned several time with Trend Micro but both error messages continue to appear when booting into XP. Again, this doesn't appear to be performance affecting but it will continue to irritate me until I can get rid of it. Further reading indicates both files (if they're not spyware) are related in some way to my graphics card (an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro). Does anyone have a clue as to how to get rid of these error messages? I will be installing an additional 300 gig hard drive this weekend on which to install Linux on this machine (Ubuntu 8.04) and I'd sure like to fix this at the same time. Many thanks in advance. Rob * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Avery labels, Word Perfect Windows XP
My wife, aka Sweetie, is having an issue with Word Perfect, Windows XP and apparently Avery Labels. A month or two ago, she had someone make labels for a newsletter she sends out. Now whenever she tries to print something out, she has to say okay to a dialog box asking for for the label stock. If I try to make plain 8.5x11 the default, it is okay until I restart WordPerfect and then it is set back to the same Avery label stock. Thinking about this while I write this out, maybe the thing to do is check the settings for the printer in the control panel. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly State-of-the-art: an experiment by industry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs
Maybe you can make Mozy work for you. Once it's all backed up won't your additions and changes be minimal? A total restore would take a long time too but would be do-able if you didn't mind waiting. The saying: Time is money applies here I guess... I suppose that's true but I'm afraid Comcast will cut my speed if I'm uploading 24/7 for months which is what it would take to do it all. When I stop the upload and restart it later it appears to begin all over again so I don't want to stop it. Also the Mac version doesn't have a place where you can adjust the speed of the upload to lessen the pressure on the computer resources so I'm stuck with the way they have it set. I've emailed their tech support (3 days ago) but have gotten no response. I'm going to check out the links you sent to reviews of other services too. Thanks for your input on this. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
Agreed. However, that does not mean that a significant number of those purchases are being made by corporations for use by their employees Looks like a fine post for FlatEarthSociety-L. Why is it so important for you to deny the prevalence of Macs? Macs, especially Mac laptops, are quite common these days. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Pricing on Par with HP, Dell (PC World)
Tom makes a good point here. Are you amazed I'm actually agreeing with you? :-) Not to start an advertising debate, but there are a lot of junk PCs for sale out there because with some buyers, price is the ultimate factor. Apple's been able to avoid that by refusing to allow anyone to build clone systems for them (although I vaguely remember some number of years ago, didn't some company make a clone?). That's one reason why, historically, Apple prices have been higher than PC prices. However, when Apple introduced the Mac Mini, that was (I believe) the first computer Apple sold for significantly less than $1,000. I think one thing that's hurting Apple's sales (to some extent) is people have gotten used to Apple's historically higher prices. But as Tom's attempting to point out, the price points are getting remarkably close. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple Pricing on Par with HP, Dell (PC World) If he'd compared low end macbook to low end HP, the HP would have won out by about 200 bux. I can drive down to Fry's right now and get a HP configured with twice the memory, 2 inches larger screen, larger HD all for about 200 less then if I buy the macbook they sell next to it. As is said, lies, damn lies and statistics. I don't doubt anything read in the article, but it's still not wholey accurate. I'll never understand the mac zealots desire to prove beyond any doubt that macs don't cost more. I bought an ipod and it was more expensive then a lot of other mp3 players, but I wanted the polish..the fit and finish of the product. I think you missed the point. No one will dispute that you can find a Windows junk box selling for close to nothing. The point was that people looking for a good computer should not immediately rule out Macs because of false propaganda about their price. If the false propaganda was not constantly being repeated it would not be necessary to point it out. Unfortunately that is not the case. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Pricing on Par with HP, Dell (PC World)
www.geeks.com Has even gotten into the act and has been selling Mac Mini's core duo for 497 and are advertising a Mac Ibook for 399. With as large a user base as it has now, the refurb market is heating up with them. Stewart At 11:00 AM 7/11/2008, you wrote: Tom makes a good point here. Are you amazed I'm actually agreeing with you? :-) Not to start an advertising debate, but there are a lot of junk PCs for sale out there because with some buyers, price is the ultimate factor. Apple's been able to avoid that by refusing to allow anyone to build clone systems for them (although I vaguely remember some number of years ago, didn't some company make a clone?). That's one reason why, historically, Apple prices have been higher than PC prices. However, when Apple introduced the Mac Mini, that was (I believe) the first computer Apple sold for significantly less than $1,000. I think one thing that's hurting Apple's sales (to some extent) is people have gotten used to Apple's historically higher prices. But as Tom's attempting to point out, the price points are getting remarkably close. Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem
'DestroyWindow' is not a Spyware problem - although the name does have that nice and nasty ring to it. There's talk about it in various coding forums, so don't let the name freak you out. MS has a pretty good writeup of possible fixes for User32.dll problems. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676 I'd try to resolve it in this order (namely if the first step doesn't fix it, try the next, etc and post your results): 1. Method 1: Use Windows Update to obtain any fixes that are related to User32.dll - but if you don't have automatic updates turned on, I wouldn't turn them on just because the webpage says to do that. 2. Determine what programs are using User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 3. Use Recovery Console to restore the User32.dll file - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 4. Use the System File Checker tool to repair User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# If none of those work, post back and we can try some other things. The things I wouldn't do are: o Use System Restore, Reformat/Reinstall or Reinstall XP. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Range Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:38 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem To start from the very beginning of the problem, for several weeks I had been getting an error message during the loading of XP Pro, saying that it could not find something related to 'MyWebSearch'. Well, Apparently, when I uninstalled it, it removed everything, but the registry key. I ignored the error message for some time, until tonight. I went on to the Net, and found clear instructions on how to remove it. I followed the instructions implicitly, including backing up the registry file, when it instructed to do so. After I saved the new registry file, I rebooted. But, Now, When I try to open many(not all at once) of my programs, I get the error message 'DestroyWindow could not be located in dynamic link library user32.dll.'. I didn't find a clear answer on the Net. Any help is greatly appreciated. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Best Rugged Mini PC
to pass around a room of attendees to sign in their information or fill out a form, what would you choose? What is wrong with a piece of paper? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why is it so important for you to deny the prevalence of Macs? Macs, especially Mac laptops, are quite common these days. I am not trying to deny the prevalence of Macs. I was responding to a post of yours that was related to a thread about how many of the laptops that get lost in airports are owned by businesses. My point was that it should not be assumed that a goodly number of those lost computers were Macs that were owned by businesses and dedicated to business use. Macs are making somewhat of a dent in the button-down business world, but still not nearly as much of a dent as is being made in the non-business world. I know of a number of folks in the work-a-day business world who have recently obtained, for the first time in their lives, Macintosh computers. However, they did not get them for work. They bought them for personal use, and with their own money, not company funds. They still have their company issued Windows portables that they carry around, but for personal use, they have now put their Windows machines at home in the closet, preferring Macs instead. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Strange Attack Website
How did you find that they had searched for your wife's name? The old fashioned way: They told her and she told me. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
Without actually looking at raw data, there's no way to prove or disprove either point. Macs are becoming more prevalent these days but it's hard to determine just how many are being purchased by corporations. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:22 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer? Agreed. However, that does not mean that a significant number of those purchases are being made by corporations for use by their employees Looks like a fine post for FlatEarthSociety-L. Why is it so important for you to deny the prevalence of Macs? Macs, especially Mac laptops, are quite common these days. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem
Why wouldn't you just start with #4? On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to resolve it in this order (namely if the first step doesn't fix it, try the next, etc and post your results): 1. Method 1: Use Windows Update to obtain any fixes that are related to User32.dll - but if you don't have automatic updates turned on, I wouldn't turn them on just because the webpage says to do that. 2. Determine what programs are using User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 3. Use Recovery Console to restore the User32.dll file - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 4. Use the System File Checker tool to repair User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
HAHAHAHA! You are too funny Tom! But you didn't use one of them cute smileys, so it's hard to tell if you're being serious - as most of your posts seem, or if you're saying a funny. If this is the later, then that's a downright knee slapper. I literally fell out of my chair when I read that... :-D But if it's the former, then I really have to start wondering about Mac people. Here I was thinking they were capable of independent thought and didn't place such a high value on inanimate objects. :-( Hmm.. I drove past 2 ATT Phone stores on my way into work today and saw people lined up waiting for the store to open so they can be the first to buy the new and improved iPhone. What was it I was saying? :-) Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:17 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer? I also didn't realize Mac owners would be emotionally attached to their computers. In my job, I use both Macs and PCs (yeah, I know... I've never 'fessed up that I'm a Mac person too). But I don't feel any more emotional attachment to the Macs that I use than I do to my PC. I see them both as work tools. As I did with my typewriter back in the day when I used that. You didn't realize Mac owners would be emotionally attached to their computers? I think we must ask you to step over to the polygraph machine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem
I've found that takes a good deal of time to run and generally hasn't really done much. YMMV of course... -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John DeCarlo Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:04 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Spyware/Registry problem Why wouldn't you just start with #4? On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to resolve it in this order (namely if the first step doesn't fix it, try the next, etc and post your results): 1. Method 1: Use Windows Update to obtain any fixes that are related to User32.dll - but if you don't have automatic updates turned on, I wouldn't turn them on just because the webpage says to do that. 2. Determine what programs are using User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 3. Use Recovery Console to restore the User32.dll file - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# 4. Use the System File Checker tool to repair User32.dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/142676# -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
It depends on the industry/business you are involved in. In the religious/Non profit world you are usually confined to donated/refurbished equipment. I know many pastors who have either bought their own laptops (like me) or have larger churches where business exec's donate used laptops from their companies to the staff. Plus what software are they running? Again in my business most of the software is written for Windows not OSX. Our publishing house recently put out software for the design and publishing of ready made service bulletins for worship. Program is only written and published for Windows computers, even though the head guy in charge of this a Mac addict. Go figure. Stewart At 11:51 AM 7/11/2008, you wrote: Without actually looking at raw data, there's no way to prove or disprove either point. Macs are becoming more prevalent these days but it's hard to determine just how many are being purchased by corporations. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
I was not familiar with them, but after looking at them they are only slightly cheaper than buying on the market. The only advantage is Office 2003 coming with it. Stewart At 12:34 PM 7/11/2008, you wrote: Stewart - have you ever heard of TechSoup - www.techsoup.org? They offer significant hardware and software discounts to non-profits. Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
It depends on the software... MS actually has the best prices for non-profits. XP Pro for about $20 per copy - although it might've gone up since I haven't looked recently. Office 200x for pretty good prices too. We got a Cisco Switch for $50 (brand new, in the box and it didn't fall off the back of a truck or anything!) Adobe products are... well Adobe is somewhat less giving than other companies. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart Marshall Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:21 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer? I was not familiar with them, but after looking at them they are only slightly cheaper than buying on the market. The only advantage is Office 2003 coming with it. Stewart At 12:34 PM 7/11/2008, you wrote: Stewart - have you ever heard of TechSoup - www.techsoup.org? They offer significant hardware and software discounts to non-profits. Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
Don't ask me they are the ones publishing it. I guess they decided to make only one platform I guess. From what I hear it is a real dog anyway. It is a subscription program and My church does not want to pay out for the subscription. They changed the way they do the programing now as they want a steady stream of revenue and so have gone with one that requires yearly contracts. My feeling is it is a ripoff so I did not get it. But remember they sell to a small group so they feel (I guess) that they can only afford one format of software. Stewart At 03:30 PM 7/11/2008, you wrote: That is just plain ignorant. There are plenty of software frameworks that will pop out binaries for both platforms with no or little additional work. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs
Glad to help. I suspect you may end up with S3/ Jungle disk... Keep us posted... db Paula Minor wrote: Maybe you can make Mozy work for you. Once it's all backed up won't your additions and changes be minimal? A total restore would take a long time too but would be do-able if you didn't mind waiting. The saying: Time is money applies here I guess... I suppose that's true but I'm afraid Comcast will cut my speed if I'm uploading 24/7 for months which is what it would take to do it all. When I stop the upload and restart it later it appears to begin all over again so I don't want to stop it. Also the Mac version doesn't have a place where you can adjust the speed of the upload to lessen the pressure on the computer resources so I'm stuck with the way they have it set. I've emailed their tech support (3 days ago) but have gotten no response. I'm going to check out the links you sent to reviews of other services too. Thanks for your input on this. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Avery labels, Word Perfect Windows XP
H'. This might be the problem I was having using Avery cardstock to make business cards. Could never get them aligned correctly, so one card might not have my name, another, missing the phone number, etc. Was using Wordperfect as well. But then again, I have all sorts of computer problems, ongoing printer problems, so guess the possibilities for what is wrong in this case is approaching a google. Randall On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife, aka Sweetie, is having an issue with Word Perfect, Windows XP and apparently Avery Labels. A month or two ago, she had someone make labels for a newsletter she sends out. Now whenever she tries to print something out, she has to say okay to a dialog box asking for for the label stock. If I try to make plain 8.5x11 the default, it is okay until I restart WordPerfect and then it is set back to the same Avery label stock. Thinking about this while I write this out, maybe the thing to do is check the settings for the printer in the control panel. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly State-of-the-art: an experiment by industry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
Man, you are so off base here. You've never noticed: classic car owners emotionally attached to their cars? musicians emotionally attached to their instruments? chefs attached to their knives? craftsmen (woodworkers especially) attached to their tools? Most people have emotional attachments to some inanimate objects (family heirlooms, mementos etc.). It often happens that we will acquire tools that work so well for us that they are a pleasure to work with and may even feel like extensions of ourselves, and it is not unusual for us to become fond of those tools. Computers, particularly Macs have long been observed to be objects of affection. Haven't you been reading this list? On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:27 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where's my computer? You didn't realize Mac owners would be emotionally attached to their computers? I think we must ask you to step over to the polygraph machine. You have an emotional attachment to a tool? That would be touching if not so disturbing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Avery labels, Word Perfect Windows XP
Thinking about this while I write this out, maybe the thing to do is check the settings for the printer in the control panel. That's right. This is often the case. The printer has to know that the paper it is feeding matches the paper being requested. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
My point was that it should not be assumed that a goodly number of those lost computers were Macs that were owned by businesses and dedicated to business use. Why do you think a businesses should not care about the productivity and happiness of its workers? Why do you think managers are there to oppress their staffs and disempower them? Not even knowing the technical details, do you really think CEOs are blind to the fact that the most successful businesses also have a high proportion of Macs? Google has long had a fondness for the Mac, with upwards of... 20,000 current employees opting to use the Mac over Windows. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9960547-16.html I think we need another trip to the polygraph here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Pricing on Par with HP, Dell (PC World)
I think one thing that's hurting Apple's sales (to some extent) is people have gotten used to Apple's historically higher prices. But as Tom's attempting to point out, the price points are getting remarkably close. Macs have always been a bargain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs
Also the Mac version doesn't have a place where you can adjust the speed of the upload to lessen the pressure on the computer resources so I'm stuck with the way they have it set. I've emailed their tech support (3 days ago) but have gotten no response. I'm going to check out the links you sent to reviews of other services too. I mentioned Cyberduck already. It has a setting to throttle the data rate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Best Rugged Mini PC
to pass around a room of attendees to sign in their information or fill out a form, what would you choose? What is wrong with a piece of paper? GoBook - tiny, solid, indestructible, waterproof, with keyboard and touchscreen - saw one last week at an airport, asked the user about it; he really liked it; said it's easy to use and very portable, especially with his PV charger. He had a USB mobile GSM modem plugged into it. Ugly, but I like it, just not the price. For the same price you could get at least 10 eee PCs. Paper is cheaper, and suitable for a room of attendees. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that it should not be assumed that a goodly number of those lost computers were Macs that were owned by businesses and dedicated to business use. Why do you think a businesses should not care about the productivity and happiness of its workers? Why do you think managers are there to oppress their staffs and disempower them? Not even knowing the technical details, do you really think CEOs are blind to the fact that the most successful businesses also have a high proportion of Macs? Google has long had a fondness for the Mac, with upwards of... 20,000 current employees opting to use the Mac over Windows. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9960547-16.html I think we need another trip to the polygraph here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
A polygraph for who? I like the way you cut and pasted that quote from cnet...at first glance it looks like 20,000 google employees have macs. Hopefully all our readers who care enough followed the link to learn the numbers. Most successful businesses have macs? Really? I'd like to see that spreadsheet. Your evidence is google and it's less then 1/3 of their employees that have macs, is that enough macs to tip the balance against the oppressive pcs? If I have 3000 employees, do I only need to purchase one mac to make sure my business is successful? Awesome... Mike On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that it should not be assumed that a goodly number of those lost computers were Macs that were owned by businesses and dedicated to business use. Why do you think a businesses should not care about the productivity and happiness of its workers? Why do you think managers are there to oppress their staffs and disempower them? Not even knowing the technical details, do you really think CEOs are blind to the fact that the most successful businesses also have a high proportion of Macs? Google has long had a fondness for the Mac, with upwards of... 20,000 current employees opting to use the Mac over Windows. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9960547-16.html I think we need another trip to the polygraph here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
On Jul 11, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why do you think a businesses should not care about the productivity and happiness of its workers? Your question could be more easily answered had it not contained the phrase productivity and happiness, as if they are somehow connected to one another in a way that suggests that if you have one, you'll automatically have the other. Why do you think managers are there to oppress their staffs and disempower them? Isn't that what you often claim IT managers do? Not even knowing the technical details, do you really think CEOs are blind to the fact that the most successful businesses also have a high proportion of Macs? I'd have to see that with footnotes attached. I can walk into plenty of successful business in our area who make many mega bucks primarily doing work for federal or state entities and you won't find a Mac anywhere...unless it's in an employee's backpack or satchel. Google has long had a fondness for the Mac, with upwards of... 20,000 current employees opting to use the Mac over Windows. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9960547-16.html I have quite a fondness for my Macs for both pleasure and in my business use. I just think that most businesses still perceive, rightly or wrongly, that Windows is the way to go. Often they have little choice, dependent upon the requirements of their clients in terms of the OS that their products need to run on. I think we need another trip to the polygraph here. You've been watching too much Maury Povich. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
My god talk about topic drift. This has to be one of the worst things about a mailing list - there's no way to actually *close* a thread when it veers way off course. Everyone's had their say about the missing laptop study. And 94-98% of the world still buys Windows computers and probably will for the rest of our lifetimes. Give it a rest already. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Best Rugged Mini PC
Hi Tom- I laughed out loud when reading your response*. You're right that without more context, Occum's Razor would suggest passing around a sheet of paper. In fact, the issue is that the information that needs to be collected from participants had been on sheets of paper, but that paper was getting lost in transit between the sheet-filler-outer and the temporary worker we hired to type that information into a database. We could create a scantron form to make the data collection easier, but an even more economical solution is to allow students to type it in themselves--during a presentation. What I'm envisioning is one of our recruiting presenters gathering the information on a wireless PC, and then uploading it through a wireless connection onto a server that stores it. Betty, thanks so much for the GoBook selection. Take care everyone. Arnold *also, an essay could likely be written on the transitional nature of our generation. When many of us were younger, our first response to answer a question probably sent us to concrete references--like the Encyclopedia Brittanica, or another physical source. But now we look to technology, and more specifically, the internet to answer a question. Likewise, we are more inclined to look to a digital solution at times when a material or physical solution is probably the better course of action (like, a sheet of paper). Then againthis has probably been said more than once. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
