Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
Is pursuing a murderer or a thief micromananging? How about those meddlers in the fire department? Should we not let fires rage free? Oh my. Being a half-assed govt created and approved monopoly is now the equivalent to that of a violent criminal? Has Comcast actually committed a *crime*? You must be a pip at your neighborhood watch meetings. I saw you not come to a complete and full stop at the stop sign the other morning and YOU, you, your hedges are exactly 1 inch over the height allowed by association rules! Guards! GUARDS! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
Oh my. Being a half-assed govt created and approved monopoly is now the equivalent to that of a violent criminal? Has Comcast actually committed a *crime*? You are quite a spinner. Here we go for another round of Thank You for Not Smoking. I think the events in the financial markets over the last few days should have refocused our attention on what should be considered criminal. If I were to drive a car recklessly and cause you to leave the road and be injured that would be a criminal act. In fact, just the first part would be criminal. Why should some fat cat who pays himself $1,000,000/day not be held responsible for operating a company recklessly in a manner that causes huge losses to the nation's economy, causes innocent people to lose their jobs, homes, savings, pensions, etc. and leaves the government holding the bag for $trillions? With Comcast and their ilk we are seeing new storm clouds on the horizon. Instead of upgrading their networks they downgrade our service, lie about the technology, and corrupt our governing system to perpetuate their thievery. Their greedy mismanagement is going to crash the USA's information economy. Acting today could right the system with mininal impact. Waiting until we discover that the USA has slipped way behind the rest of the world in this vital field will put the country into a position not unlike the current financial crisis, except fixing it will be a lot harder and costlier. The solution may be as simple as to void all exclusive franchises and any legislation that keeps communities from entering the market to correct market inefficiencies that may cause them to get bypassed. Another solution would be to enforce universal service to eliminate cherry picking and to set minimum service standards (network neutrality, no caps, no throttling, etc.). As we have seen with FIOS and they systems now spreading in Europe and Asia, broadband can be a lot better and cheaper than it is in tha USA. What kind of nonsense is it when companies lie to us about the high cost of a product that is demonstrably cheaper to produce than even a year ago! We're quibbling about 2Mb, 6Mb, 10Mb service while they're testing 1Gb service in Amsterdam and in Sweden! Amen! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: If Comcast is a regulated public utility and you pay your bills do they really have the right to cut off your service for any other reason? I do not believe that Comcast is a publicly regulated utility, at least not around where I live. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
Cable companies are not anywhere. Cable companies operate at the whim/franchise agreement of a local community. Nothing about them is a regulated utility. That is why Phone Companies have screamed about what Cable can get away with while they are regulated. Stewart At 10:36 AM 9/17/2008, you wrote: I do not believe that Comcast is a publicly regulated utility, at least not around where I live. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why should some fat cat who pays himself $1,000,000/day not be held [responsible?] snip! The pit bull with lipstick is gonna roll into DC and correct all of this with her big 'ole moose guttin' knife. In the meantime, just chill. Help is on the way. Steve Awesome! I will start holding my breath...now! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
-Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Emmerling Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:22 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why should some fat cat who pays himself $1,000,000/day not be held [responsible?] snip! The pit bull with lipstick is gonna roll into DC and correct all of this with her big 'ole moose guttin' knife. In the meantime, just chill. Help is on the way. Steve Awesome! I will start holding my breath...now! In the interest of equal opportunity political whining... Don't worry about this, Barack and Biden will make everything all better. In the meantime, just chill. Help is on the way. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
BTW, Palin will be VICE President if McCain is elected. If that happens, let's hope he stays healthy and that she doesn't try to pull a Cheney. Incidentally, she has turned against and betrayed nearly every political figure who has ever helped her, so if McCain is elected, it could be an interesting four years. (BTW, as far as an improved internet or wireless network goes: she has a record of not funding infrastructure, other than a hockey rink that left the town of Wasilla in debt.) Pit bull is a pretty good description. (OT Warning: posting a link to a news story at the BOTTOM of this email, on Palin Wasilla under her watch. If you don't want anything OT, please avoid it.) --Constance Warner On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Why should some fat cat who pays himself $1,000,000/day not be held [responsible?] snip! The pit bull with lipstick is gonna roll into DC and correct all of this with her big 'ole moose guttin' knife. In the meantime, just chill. Help is on the way. Steve Awesome! I will start holding my breath...now! Here's the OT link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/politics/animal/main4441978.sh tml * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Larry Sacks wrote: In the interest of equal opportunity political whining... Don't worry about this, Barack and Biden will make everything all better. In the meantime, just chill. Help is on the way. Absolutely. We would not want to leave any of our hot air laden politicians out of the solution. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will HP Replace Windows with Its Own OS?
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold on, that is a post EDS merger trimming. That percentage is not at all unusual after a merger. The merged company will find many positions duplicated with only enough work required to justify one position. It is a sad truth about mergers that many good employees get shafted. That's basically the story I heard on the local NBC (I believe) radio affiliate yesterday afternoon. Although I don't believe they used the word shafted but that's what I thought when I heard the story. Shafted is a more common term around Philadelphia for getting the wrong end of the short stick. I went to the University next door to Tom's alma mater and the Drexel Shaft was always to blame for some misfortune or another. We even had a monument to the shaft on the quad which has since been moved to one of the newer dorms. (http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2T64) Urban Dictionary attaches the term to a huge smoke stack which was less common when I was there. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
My connection is that nothing much will happen NO MATTER WHICH of the two major party candidates are elected. We will not elect anyone who wants to change the status quo. They will just move around the deck chairs a little on the cruise ship. Stewart At 01:29 PM 9/17/2008, you wrote: Absolutely. We would not want to leave any of our hot air laden politicians out of the solution. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
At 1:46 PM -0500 9/17/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: My connection is that nothing much will happen NO MATTER WHICH of the two major party candidates are elected. We will not elect anyone who wants to change the status quo. They will just move around the deck chairs a little on the cruise ship. That's awfully cynical for a man of the cloth! I thought you guys (and gals, nowadays) were all about hope? -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
Yes but not in the things of man. My hope is built on nothing less, than Jesus and his righteousness. That is how the hymn is sung. I pray for my leaders and such, but I do not put my faith in them dangerous thing, putting faith in man. Stewart At 02:24 PM 9/17/2008, you wrote: That's awfully cynical for a man of the cloth! I thought you guys (and gals, nowadays) were all about hope? -- Roger Lovettsville, VA Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
Apple's iTunes 8 has some interesting side effects. It causes a BSOD on Vista: Old news. Corrected version is out. So much for Vista's protected mode computing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
At 4:21 PM -0400 9/17/08, Tom Piwowar wrote: Apple's iTunes 8 has some interesting side effects. It causes a BSOD on Vista: Old news. Corrected version is out. So much for Vista's protected mode computing. The problem, as I understand it, is a driver that Apple supplied. Drivers tend to run at kernel level. It would be nice to isolate drivers, but it's kinda the nature of the beast that a driver brings down the whole OS. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Help! Update
Greetings - For the last few days, I have been testing data recovery software and trying to find the folders and files from my WD 500 GB USB external drive. No luck, in particular with Search and Recover and Easy Recovery Pro. When I originally dragged and dropped my data from my Linux partition to the external drive (formatted FAT32), I dragged folders that were created in Linux ext2 but that contained .doc, .txt, .html, .pdf, and .jpg files. When I subsequently saved my Windows folders to the same external HD, they must have overwritten the folders created in ext2. I assume that if I had simply copied all the files, sans folders created in ext2, to the HD, this might not have happened. Since I deleted my SuSE partition and installed Ubuntu in its place, thinking that my files were safely backed-up, I think that I am facing a lost cause. My last gasp is to try a data recovery program that has a Linux version and see if it can see something that the others can't - probably not. I downloaded TestDisk at http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download and got the version for Linux ext3 to install in Ubuntu 8.041 . The filename is testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 and I downloaded it to my Desktop. Ftrom there, I'm stuck. Although everyone says it's easy, I don't have a good track record untarring tarred files. Some step-by-step advice about untarring and installing, begining with Step 2 (Step 1 being Turn on your computer - I got that covered! grin) would be greatly appreciated. Seems that professional recovery firms around here charge $125/hour and I just can't afford that amount. TIA Kelly * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
Apple's iTunes 8 has some interesting side effects. It causes a BSOD on Vista: Old news. Corrected version is out. So much for Vista's protected mode computing. Yawn... predictable... The problem, as I understand it, is a driver that Apple supplied. Drivers tend to run at kernel level. It would be nice to isolate drivers, but it's kinda the nature of the beast that a driver brings down the whole OS. AND... AND... the driver gets downloaded for you automatically because MS, I mean Apple has decided you want it. Maybe they could prompt you, Hey...we've got this really cool driver you might want to download. Would you like us to do that? or Hey...we've got this really cool driver you might want to download. There's a good chance it'll make your system vomburp. But it's okay because Apple's becoming equal opportunity. Apparently it's also caused problems for owners of Airport Express routers. Me? I'd rather not have drivers I don't need installed for me. I don't even own an iPod (horrors I know) or an iPhone (yes, it's true!) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
Yeah Tom, MS team members program iTunes for Apple now. Tell us another one On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's iTunes 8 has some interesting side effects. It causes a BSOD on Vista: Old news. Corrected version is out. So much for Vista's protected mode computing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Test what your ISP is blocking
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Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
I've been warning people off itunes for a long time anyway. As bad as Real ever was, which I've had similar bad luck with. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
Old news. Corrected version is out. So much for Vista's protected mode computing. You really need to get someone to write you a new script. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
I've never had an issue with iTunes. Real? ugh. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been warning people off itunes for a long time anyway. As bad as Real ever was, which I've had similar bad luck with. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Update
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Kelly J. Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: When I originally dragged and dropped my data from my Linux partition to the external drive (formatted FAT32), I dragged folders that were created in Linux ext2 but that contained .doc, .txt, .html, .pdf, and .jpg files. When I subsequently saved my Windows folders to the same external HD, they must have overwritten the folders created in ext2. I assume that if I had simply copied all the files, sans folders created in ext2, to the HD, this might not have happened. Doesn't matter what file system the files were on originally. You wrote to the FAT32 drive from both Linux and Windows. There could be more esoteric reasons (like you turned off the hard drive while writing was still happening), the most common reason why the files would be overwritten is because they have the same names. FAT32 is not case sensitive. You are probably safe booting from the hard drive since this is an external, but you might also want to have a few bootable CDs, like the Ultimate Boot CD (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/) or Trinity Rescue ( http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1front_id=12), or one of many others - you should get some good recommendations here. I downloaded TestDisk at http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Downloadand got the version for Linux ext3 to install in Ubuntu 8.041 . The filename is testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 and I downloaded it to my Desktop. Ftrom there, I'm stuck. Although everyone says it's easy, I don't have a good track record untarring tarred files. Some step-by-step advice about untarring and installing, begining with Step 2 (Step 1 being Turn on your computer - I got that covered! grin) would be greatly appreciated. 2. Boot to Ubuntu and log in. If you are comfortable with the command line, here is a set of steps. Some of these steps you should do as root, but I forget which ones. If any of them don't work at first, replace x with sudo x and type in your own password when prompted. 3. Start a terminal session (I forget the exact command in Ubuntu, but it should be under System or Utilities, might be called terminal or console). 4. I like to install software in /opt, but it is up to you where you install it, maybe under /home/kelly or the like. In which case mkdir /opt followed by cd /opt 5. Copy the tar file to /opt. cp /home/kelly/testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 /opt 6. Untar it - it should create its own directory. tar jxvf testdisk-6.10.linux26.tar.bz2 7. Look for the new directory - it should show up in your screen since I added v for verbose, but just see what you have anyway. ls -l 8. Change to the directory. cd testdisk-6.10/linux 9. Choose whether to run photorec (recover photos) sudo ./photorec_static or testdisk (recover partitions) sudo ./testdisk_static You know, I just looked there, and I don't think it will do what you want, either one. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
You really need to get someone to write you a new script. You go play with your Zune. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
He's the one with the zune?? I never knew he could squirt songs. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really need to get someone to write you a new script. You go play with your Zune. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast puts on the brakes
The solution may be as simple as to void all exclusive franchises and any legislation that keeps communities from entering the market to correct market inefficiencies that may cause them to get bypassed. By God, there's hope for you yet. Maybe the idiot king of the FCC, Kevin Martin, can abuse his powers for good for a change and do just that. It would probably fall apart in the first court case, but waiting for counties and municipalities to give up their fat franchise fees, well, Godot, would get there first. Take 'em kicking and screaming out of the 1950's, I say. Another solution would be to enforce universal service to eliminate cherry picking and to set minimum service standards (network neutrality, no caps, no throttling, etc.). Oo, so close. So much for hope. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes 8 causing BSOD
He's the one with the zune?? I never knew he could squirt songs. Notice how peevish the WFBs get as MS's market share slips away. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *