[CGUYS] GPS advice
I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
Wayne - my only advice, having used both, is to get satellite driven GPS. The others are more like mapquest/google maps. Satellite seems to be more accurate, and allows, at least mine does, a choice of routes (quick, short, no freeway, etc.). /gayley Quoting Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
I'm surprised that Jeff Bezos beat out Steve Jobs and that Jerry Yang was as poorly regarded as Steve Balmer. My biggest surprise was that Steve Balmer did not score a big negative. I guess you folks are willing to give a bad manager more slack than I do. Or is it that you see him as a better manager than I do? I was surprised as well. Apple is wholly dependent upon Jobs for its success and MS desperately needs to shed the flailing deadweight of Balmer. Can't Paul Allen talk some sense into him, or at least lure him to Portland somehow, drug him, and hide him away in a Hare Krishna sect for a few years? Selling candles at the airport seems a suitable punishment. Yang? I don't even think about him. Asking about Brin and Page would have been better. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
Check consumer reports. Some of the newer TomTom's plan using the strategy that Gayley mentioned. (plus they learn your habits.) All of the units will replan the route once you deviate from their assigned path. They key is to fond one that does it quickly. But I know CR has done some reviews and Tom Tom and Garmin usually come out the best. Stewart At 07:42 AM 10/12/2008, you wrote: I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
Okay, now. I think that I listed my Sinclair along with my Atari. However, the poll asked about computers that are OWNED, So I should have listed my OSI 100 with 128 bytes of RAM. I thought the wide variety of computers owned by list members was impressive. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
buy a disposable(cheap) one. get a larger than the smallest screen. look at the refurbs at ecost and buy.com 90-100 bucks. they work. we have a tom tom 1. works just fine. my syster has a $1500 unit that came in the car. it works. her's does traffic. i would worry about paying for traffic info in dc, as XM radio does phony traffic reports, and my guess is that gps traffic is the same garbage. dc area has too many camera blanks to get good info without call in. 103.5 does good call in. At 08:42 AM 10/12/2008, you wrote: I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
But I know CR has done some reviews and Tom Tom and Garmin usually come out the best. I don't know that I would rely on CR's opinion of anything technical. You should not just look at the purchase price. Also factor in the annual subscription price and/or the cost of software upgrades. You wrote that you would not be using this a lot so you may do better with alternative services. I recall reading about a phone-based service (I think Verizon, but I'm sure there are others). In addition to an annual subscription they also offered a 1-month and single-use or day rate. I'm vaguely remembering that a single-use cost around $5. Does anyone here recall this better than I do? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
Drug him? I suspect that would take quite a tranq dart to take down a ballmer in it's natrual habitat. Mike On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised as well. Apple is wholly dependent upon Jobs for its success and MS desperately needs to shed the flailing deadweight of Balmer. Can't Paul Allen talk some sense into him, or at least lure him to Portland somehow, drug him, and hide him away in a Hare Krishna sect for a few years? Selling candles at the airport seems a suitable punishment. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mozilla stopped working
Rebooted? In official Windows speak this is called restart. It is amazing how often rebooting fixes things and how often people forget to try this first. Next is to try starting FFx in safe mode. Get to this via Start All Programs Mozilla FireFox Mozilla FireFox (safe mode). This will offer you a bunch of options for clearing posssibly corrupt settings (which is probably your problem). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Meeting: Geotagging Your Photos
Saturday, October 18th, Fairfax County Gov't. Center Presented by: Washington Area Computer User Group A new adventure in photography computers: Geotagging Your Photos * * Geof Goodrum will demonstrate geotagging, or applying location information to digital photos. Geotagging is becoming increasingly popular, and allows posting photos online linked to services like Google Earth and Google Maps, so not only does your audience see your pictures, but better understands where they were taken and how they relate to one another during a trip. More info: http://www.wacug.org/meetings.html#next 12:30 PM to 3:30 PM at the Fairfax County Government Center 12000 Government Center Parkway, Fairfax, Virginia Directions: http://www.wacug.org/map.html http://www.wacug.org/map.html -- Paul L. Howard President - WACUG: http://www.wacug.org/ Monthly Mtgs - gen. 3rd Sat.; 12:30-3:30 PM; FF Cty Govt. Ctr. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy a disposable(cheap) one. get a larger than the smallest screen. look at the refurbs at ecost and buy.com 90-100 bucks. they work. we have a tom tom 1. works just fine. my syster has a $1500 unit that came in the car. it works. her's does traffic. i would worry about paying for traffic info in dc, as XM radio does phony traffic reports, and my guess is that gps traffic is the same garbage. dc area has too many camera blanks to get good info without call in. 103.5 does good call in. The Dash reports anonymously users travel times and locations real time back to the mother ship and give real time reports to users. The problem is there need to be other Dash users on your route. (http://dash.net/) At 08:42 AM 10/12/2008, you wrote: I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I thought the wide variety of computers owned by list members was impressive. Agreed. I also found the high number of users of machines other than Windows was similarly worthy of mention. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
Maybe one of those rocket powered nets they used on Wild Kingdom would work. Drug him? I suspect that would take quite a tranq dart to take down a ballmer in it's natrual habitat. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! Maybe I better leave computer on in case I can't restart it and not see any replies! Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
First, go through your BIOS and snap a digital photo of each page. But if the cmos battery needs replacing (http://www.google.com/products?q=cmos+battery), it's probably fairly easy to do, if you're handy with pliers. Yes, if you're really worried about it you can leave it on, but eventually you may want to spring for a new battery. Even if it forgets it's settings, you can always select one of the safe setups in the BIOS. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! Maybe I better leave computer on in case I can't restart it and not see any replies! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. I've used handheld GPS devices and own a Garmin 70CS. In bicycle touring circles this falls into the nice to have but not a requirement category. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
I've used handheld GPS devices and own a Garmin 70CS Sorry, 76C. Bad memory. Old age. But I know where I am, I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
I got a matchbook-sized Bluetooth GPS receiver about the size of an XM antenna (60 bucks) and subscribed to TeleNav on my Treo 650. As long as you have a scent of a cell signal, you can get postion, directions, compass... it's $10 a month. We also use it on my husband's BlackBerry. We have two Garmins on our boat that give position only, and one mapping Lowrance we use both in the car and the boat. The Lowrance has downloadable mapping to an SD card. I personally prefer my phone's dynamic mapping capability, even though it has a small screen. It will zoom up to be quite useable. If I want a more detailed map, I also have Google Maps on the phone. (you'd never believe from the equipment that the boat never actually gets out of sight of land) - Original Message - From: Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: [CGUYS] GPS advice I got mildly lost a couple of weeks ago, a phone call to my sister (lives in the area) provided no real help (rush hour and construction). I use the term mildly lost in, I knew where I was approximately but not precisely how to get where I wanted to go. I was also looking to get a car but was reluctant to spend $1,000-1,500 for an integrated GPS in the car since a top of the line portable GPS is ~$1,000. Last weekend I went shopping for a GPS and tried one out in Circuit City. I was in southern Maryland (Waldorf) and picked out an address in Annapolis. It generated a route that took US 301 to US 3 to MD 450 to the final destination. This is at least 6 miles longer than taking US 301 to US 50, which is a little longer than US 301 to MD 214 (MD 450 is a two lane road, US 50 is 4 lanes and goes across the Bay Bridge). The other GPS receivers didn't seem to get a signal, there didn't seem to be a lot of sales help there, so I left. Yesterday I went to a Best Buy, repeated the experiment and the units there couldn't find the satellites. Of course not, they're in a big steel building! So is there any advice out there about what to get and what to avoid? I go on trips typically once or twice a year where this would be useful, so I don't see this as being big on features, but it shouldn't be stupid either. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Croak Poll
I also found the high number of users of machines other than Windows was similarly worthy of mention. Yes indeed. This is a smart group (mostly). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Eventually the battery will get so low that you will lose the stored data. You can delay this by keeping the computer plugged in to power. Delay long enough and the battery will leak and burn a hole through your motherboard. New battery is around $10. Radio Shack carries the common ones. Also easy to buy online. Changing the battery is not a big deal. So why wait and wait for big trouble? Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
You have low system battery voltage. You need to change the battery on your motherboard. Likely it looks like a nickel or a quarter on your motherboard. Radio Shack is your pal. If you enter your service tag number into support.dell.com, you can find out what kind of battery you need. - Original Message - From: Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning? Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! Maybe I better leave computer on in case I can't restart it and not see any replies! Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
First open the case and look the MB where you will find the battery. Identify the battery and buy the same. Replace. No pain. Marcio At 18:35 12/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Eventually the battery will get so low that you will lose the stored data. You can delay this by keeping the computer plugged in to power. Delay long enough and the battery will leak and burn a hole through your motherboard. New battery is around $10. Radio Shack carries the common ones. Also easy to buy online. Changing the battery is not a big deal. So why wait and wait for big trouble? Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
Tom Piwowar But I know CR has done some reviews and Tom Tom and Garmin usually come out the best. I don't know that I would rely on CR's opinion of anything technical. They're a start, they do have a built-in bias against Mac's, it's silly but just realize the bias exists and try to account for it. Watch the opinions at cnet amazon.com as well. You should not just look at the purchase price. Also factor in the annual subscription price and/or the cost of software upgrades. Also do they support Mac's? I can't convince my wife to switch though so maybe she'll let me use her computer... Subscription? to what? how often do they update maps? Does the unit stop working if you don't have a subscription? You wrote that you would not be using this a lot so you may do better with alternative services. I recall reading about a phone-based service (I think Verizon, but I'm sure there are others). In addition to an annual subscription they also offered a 1-month and single-use or day rate. I'm vaguely remembering that a single-use cost around $5. Does anyone here recall this better than I do? The one on my phone costs $3.50(??) a day, but you almost have to pre-arrange for it. It's tough to do while you're lost in the middle of Va. Beach. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Press any key to continue or any other key to quit * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Piwowar The one on my phone costs $3.50(??) a day, but you almost have to pre-arrange for it. It's tough to do while you're lost in the middle of Va. Beach. Verizon offers a monthly price for their phone based gps which is roughly the same as two and a half days. I've been leaving it on because I like to have the traffic info available. The down side is that it is phone tower based and you can drop off the map in inopportune places. I was going to the Zoo through DC and lost my connection right before one of the traffic circles fortunately I sort of knew the way and was using the phone as a backup. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
in dc, one must use the hands free phone. how you get the map through your earpiece? At 08:05 PM 10/12/2008, you wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Piwowar The one on my phone costs $3.50(??) a day, but you almost have to pre-arrange for it. It's tough to do while you're lost in the middle of Va. Beach. Verizon offers a monthly price for their phone based gps which is roughly the same as two and a half days. I've been leaving it on because I like to have the traffic info available. The down side is that it is phone tower based and you can drop off the map in inopportune places. I was going to the Zoo through DC and lost my connection right before one of the traffic circles fortunately I sort of knew the way and was using the phone as a backup. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
They're a start, they do have a built-in bias against Mac's, it's silly but just realize the bias exists and try to account for it. Watch the opinions at cnet amazon.com as well. They had strange biases long before there were Macs. Way back when I was in college we electrical engineering students used to laugh about the electronics recommendations in CR. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:20 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in dc, one must use the hands free phone. how you get the map through your earpiece? I sat it on the instrument cluster with one of those sticky pads. The EnV has a speaker phone and it talks the directions. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
They had strange biases long before there were Macs. Way back when I was in college we electrical engineering students used to laugh about the electronics recommendations in CR. I don't trust CR for computer advice either, but I'm not sure that applies to GPSs, which are pretty much ordinary consumer products these days. What you're mostly looking for is how easy is it to get a route, how readable is the display, how many POIs does it have, stuff like that. CR is usually pretty good with that kind of information. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mozilla stopped working
Thanks for your suggestion.? Yes, I did reboot, but that didn't help.? I wasn't aware of the ability to start FF in safe mode, and I'll keep that in mind for the future.? However, when I ran Spybot SD it indicated that I had the malware Smitfraud-C.gp and an infected C:\Windows\svchost.exe and offered to delete these. After saying ok to delete, as soon as I ran Spybot again, it was back (or still there), so either Spybot didn't remove it, or something caused it to reappear.? What I decided to try -- and it did work -- was to do a system restore to a previous day's system checkpoint.? Yay!? Thanks for your suggestions. --Stu Date:Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:42:19 -0400 From:Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mozilla stopped working MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Rebooted? In official Windows speak this is called restart. It is amazing how often rebooting fixes things and how often people forget to try this first. Next is to try starting FFx in safe mode. Get to this via Start All Programs Mozilla FireFox Mozilla FireFox (safe mode). This will offer you a bunch of options for clearing posssibly corrupt settings (which is probably your problem). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 11 Oct 2008 to 12 Oct 2008 - Special issue (#2008-671)
Oops, my statement that restoring to a previous restore point eliminated the Smitfraud-C.gp and svchost malware was premature.? Running Spybot again identifies those items as still present.? But Firefox appears to be running correctly now.? I still have to eliminate Smitfraud-C.gp and C:\Windows\svchost.?? Apparently Spybot (1.6) isn't doing it.? Any suggestions would be appreciated! --Stu Date:Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:42:19 -0400 From:Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mozilla stopped working MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Rebooted? In official Windows speak this is called restart. It is amazing how often rebooting fixes things and how often people forget to try this first. Next is to try starting FFx in safe mode. Get to this via Start All Programs Mozilla FireFox Mozilla FireFox (safe mode). This will offer you a bunch of options for clearing posssibly corrupt settings (which is probably your problem). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice]
They're a start, they do have a built-in bias against Mac's, it's silly but just realize the bias exists and try to account for it. Watch the opinions at cnet amazon.com as well. They had strange biases long before there were Macs. Way back when I was in college we electrical engineering students used to laugh about the electronics recommendations in CR. I take all reviews anywhere with a ton of salt. The day I knew Consumers Reports was totally biased and clueless was when they reviewed an odd little car we owned, the 1980 Dodge Colt [Plymouth Champ]. It had twin gear shifts--high/low, 4-speed--giving it a 10-speed transmission [if you include two in reverse]. The two shifts worked similar to the high/low gears in a big truck. CR reviewer said that it was awful because you needed THREE hands to shift gears! MPG was 48-50 highway, ~42 mpg average. It was terrific driving through the Rockies. Had we believed CR, we wouldn't have had so much fun and spent so little. When I look at reviews at amazon, cnet, et al, I always look at the lowest first to see if there are real reasons to avoid a product, or if the reviewer simply wanted attention. Then I work my way up the scale. GPS? Don't need it. I always carry a Suunto compass, and pick up maps as I travel. [strange bias?] Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Internet Radio Devices
Hi! I'm thinking of purchasing an internet radio device like the Aluratek AIRMM01F Internet Radio Alarm Clock with Built-in WiFi, for radio reception is especially bad at my house. I've never understood, however, how these things work. I know you need a wireless lan, which I have, and the computer doesn't have to be on to listen to a station (they claim access to over 11,000). What I don't know, however, is whether or not I would have access to every radio station I can listen to on my computer, or do such devices have a list of stations to which I am limited. If the latter, can I add a station of my own? Does anyone on the list have knowledge of and/or experience with these devices? I would love to hear some recommendations. Thanks, Jeff * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Strange biases [was: Re: GPS advice]
For the last thirty years that I know of their bias toward anything other than American cars has been obvious. You can see where they will give it good marks, but they trash it in their reviews. Pointy headed twerps is all I can say about them in that area. However in home appliances and some electronic things (I do not look to them for computer reviews) They have been pretty good. When I put together my units I check Newegg and Cnet for reviews. I also checked Cnet when I bought my GPS unit. Stewart I take all reviews anywhere with a ton of salt. The day I knew Consumers Reports was totally biased and clueless was when they reviewed an odd little car we owned, the 1980 Dodge Colt [Plymouth Champ]. It had twin gear shifts--high/low, 4-speed--giving it a 10-speed transmission [if you include two in reverse]. The two shifts worked similar to the high/low gears in a big truck. CR reviewer said that it was awful because you needed THREE hands to shift gears! MPG was 48-50 highway, ~42 mpg average. It was terrific driving through the Rockies. Had we believed CR, we wouldn't have had so much fun and spent so little. When I look at reviews at amazon, cnet, et al, I always look at the lowest first to see if there are real reasons to avoid a product, or if the reviewer simply wanted attention. Then I work my way up the scale. GPS? Don't need it. I always carry a Suunto compass, and pick up maps as I travel. [strange bias?] Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Thanks for all the advice. Do these batteries always eventually go? Randall On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: First open the case and look the MB where you will find the battery. Identify the battery and buy the same. Replace. No pain. Marcio At 18:35 12/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Eventually the battery will get so low that you will lose the stored data. You can delay this by keeping the computer plugged in to power. Delay long enough and the battery will leak and burn a hole through your motherboard. New battery is around $10. Radio Shack carries the common ones. Also easy to buy online. Changing the battery is not a big deal. So why wait and wait for big trouble? Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Yes,,, they always go, How do I know? The date and time in the computer keeps falling behind... Keep a couple of batteries at home and learn how to find it in the MB. Marcio At 00:50 13/10/2008, you wrote: Thanks for all the advice. Do these batteries always eventually go? Randall On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: First open the case and look the MB where you will find the battery. Identify the battery and buy the same. Replace. No pain. Marcio At 18:35 12/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: Eventually the battery will get so low that you will lose the stored data. You can delay this by keeping the computer plugged in to power. Delay long enough and the battery will leak and burn a hole through your motherboard. New battery is around $10. Radio Shack carries the common ones. Also easy to buy online. Changing the battery is not a big deal. So why wait and wait for big trouble? Lately when I boot up my computer I get a warning that says something like: Warning - low system battery voltage, hit F1 to continue or F2 to run utility Nothing happens when I hit F1 or F2 and the only way I can get anything to happen is to turn power off and on. Today, I had to do this 3 times before it powered up. I've never had this problem before, until the past week and now seems to be happening more frequently. Any ideas on what's going on or what can be done? Is my Dell 8300 desktop in its deaththroes, about to crash for good?! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
