Re: [CGUYS] Prepaid the Majority
At 12:11 AM -0400 4/27/09, b_s-wilk wrote: We picked up a Verizon 700 minute calling card for $20 at Costco. It's less than 3 cents a minute with no monthly or connection fee from land lines, no expiration. You have to read the fine print when you buy a card though. 10-4 that! You may find that in-state calls cost you twice as many units (minutes) as inter-state calls. That's what we have learned on our ATT cards purchased from Sam's Club. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Virtual XP for Win7
Apparently Win7 will include a downloadable virtual environment and a complete, fully licensed copy of XP. The environment runs on the Win7 desktop, so there's no need to start a separate desktop for programs that require XP. The real significance of this is that it allows MS to start cleaning deadwood out of Windows. There's a ton of stuff that's in there just for compatibility reasons and, since anyone will be able to quickly access XP, MS can start getting rid of it. http://tinyurl.com/dg22sm http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/xp_mode_pre_shots.asp * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations have alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used for their stream, or to have an alternate stream. While I agree with you that web sites should be agnostic, your ongoing jihad against those who don't comply with the demands of the 3 percenters is comical. Silverlight does work on most computers, since most computers run Windows, but who knows if this is the case here. Now, it's debatable as to how many computers actually have SilverLight installed on them, but the fact remains that web developers who code sites that lean towards Windows over other platforms are meeting market demands. I had the same conversation with aftermarket producers of iPod accessories. I told them there were millions of people who didn't own iPods and owned other brands, why don't they make items for those brands as well? Their response to why they focused on iPod accessories to the detriment of others: that's where the money is. I can't fault them for that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:42 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Tom said they were in Firefox..not just on the computer. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:58 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player Dynamic Link Library. They are all firefox plugins. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Virtual XP for Win7
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently Win7 will include a downloadable virtual environment and a complete, fully licensed copy of XP. The environment runs on the Win7 desktop, so there's no need to start a separate desktop for programs that require XP. The real significance of this is that it allows MS to start cleaning deadwood out of Windows. There's a ton of stuff that's in there just for compatibility reasons and, since anyone will be able to quickly access XP, MS can start getting rid of it. http://tinyurl.com/dg22sm http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/xp_mode_pre_shots.asp I wonder if they will give us a DOS environment. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Virtual XP for Win7
I wonder if they will give us a DOS environment. I would assume so, since it's a full version of XP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Prepaid the Majority
We've used all the methods you describe, and sometimes still use the 10-10 #s. My wife used to use the cards from Costco, but she says big chunks of minutes would disappear, so she became suspicious of them. We actually make so few calls that it's not a big deal. But I'll look into services that use the Verizon network. I had Cingular years ago before I went to Verizon, and I must say that they have been pretty much a pleasure to deal with. Thanks for the input. b_s-wilk wrote: Do you use your cell phone primarily at home for long distance? If you do, then using a calling card or dial-around number will save you a lot more than prepaid cellular. Use the cell away from home, use the card at home. We picked up a Verizon 700 minute calling card for $20 at Costco. It's less than 3 cents a minute with no monthly or connection fee from land lines, no expiration. You have to read the fine print when you buy a card though. This one from Costco is the best we found even though the per minute charge is a little higher. Access number and PIN are programmed into our phones. We usually take almost a year to use all the minutes. Not a Costco member? Find a friend who is, and offer to buy lunch or dinner! What kind of cellular reception does Sprint-Nextel have in your area? Try Virgin Mobile. ATT? Try Speak Out or Net10. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
*Where did you get your RCA brand converter? Guessing it is better to get at a local store in case there is a problem and a need to return them. I got them online. Local stores did not have much to choose from and whenever I found something worth buying it was out of stock. Online prices were better too. The one I like is the RCA DTA800. With revision digits tacked on the model I have is a DTA800B1. One feature I failed to mention is composite video out. This gives a much better signal than boxes that are only RF in and RF out. Composite video bypasses your old set's tuner and avoids the limits inherent in an RF signal. The RCA box also supports a smart antenna. This is a new type of antenna that electronically rotates for best signal on each station. This is done using signal strength info set to the antenna by the RCA box. I do not have one, but reviews I read were good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
*Thanks for posting this. They seem to (overwhelmingly) like the Zenith Insignia, but where can you get one? Amazon is out, Target and KMart don't seem to carry it. Are all the good brands now gone? Is this another lesson in the pitfalls of procrastination? Randall * On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:18 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:18 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: Found a discussion board for the CECB set top boxes. From what I read these people are really picky and are unlikely to really like anything. Link to the Forum. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=be67d6e830e7e21ed31cac1595867a77f=186 -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player Dynamic Link Library. They are all firefox plugins. Well, no. From what I was able to piece together, if FF detects that it needs those plugins to display some media and finds them installed for IE it will link to IE's without asking permission. I can understand why somebody would think that is a good idea, but I would rather that it ask before acting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
While I agree with you that web sites should be agnostic, your ongoing jihad against those who don't comply with the demands of the 3 percenters is comical. Jeff's alter ego -- Joseph Stalin -- speaks. Off to the Gulag with you! the fact remains that web developers who code sites that lean towards Windows over other platforms are meeting market demands. Actually web developers code sites following W3C standards and then spend hours cursing as they have to apply one MS-specific hack after another. I had the same conversation with aftermarket producers of iPod accessories. I told them there were millions of people who didn't own iPods and owned other brands, why don't they make items for those brands as well? Bad analogy. That's hardware. What's actually happening in that space is that everyone uses MP3 format, exactly as they should. Silverlight is a Johhny-come-lately, mee-too product that MS is now trying to shove down people's throats because we can. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Prepaid the Majority
10-4 that! You may find that in-state calls cost you twice as many units (minutes) as inter-state calls. That's what we have learned on our ATT cards purchased from Sam's Club. That's right. You really have to keep track of which service gives you the best price for which calls. For in-state calls it may be cheaper to just dial. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations have alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used for their stream, or to have an alternate stream. Or just move on to another station. With so many stations to choose from it is not hard to find good programming that conforms to standards. Eventually the station using Silverlight will notice its poor ranking and figure out the cause. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
Thanks for posting this. They seem to (overwhelmingly) like the Zenith Insignia That one is sold under different brands. Some sites (Consumer Reports for one) will give you some hints about which boxes are really the same with just a different brand. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
I believe that the Insignia box is a Best Buy in-house brand. It's about $50 at Best Buy (maybe only $49.99, but . . . ). Interesting that it's the top rated on the one site. If I'd known that over the week-end I'd have probably just bought one and given up on the RCA box which is basically un-findable anywhere locally (to Baltimore). My dad has an Insignia box and is very happy with it, but he also has an outside automatic antenna. Mical Mical Wimoth Carton chrper...@aol.com *Thanks for posting this. They seem to (overwhelmingly) like the Zenith Insignia, but where can you get one? Amazon is out, Target and KMart don't seem to carry it. Are all the good brands now gone? Is this another lesson in the pitfalls of procrastination? Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: OK after software they make the X-Box 360 which I think is still a money pit, their mice are good, key boards seemed ok, Zune hasn't set the world alight and they are out of the set top box market. What non- software does that leave? So the new line from our WFBs is that MS really does not sell anything. They are just a bunch of grandmas in Redmond who spend most of their time knitting. There are a suspiciously large number of sales on Etsy.com from Redmond. You will say absolutely anything as you pretend to debate, but you just toss out random untruths to see if anyone on the list is dumb enough to believe. Tom are you calling me a WFB? That is ridiculous if not Libelous. I tolerate Windows at best. I do like the ribbon bar better than you but that was about it. My question still stands if they are diversified out of software what the heck are they selling on the side? -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player Dynamic Link Library. They are all firefox plugins. Well, no. They are all in the Firefox plugin list on my PC. I think that makes them plugins by definition. Why a DLL library is called a plugin on Firefox on the PC is weird enough thing to question. The Mac only had Silverlight which I think I might have put there for the Olympics. From what I was able to piece together, if FF detects that it needs those plugins to display some media and finds them installed for IE it will link to IE's without asking permission. I can understand why somebody would think that is a good idea, but I would rather that it ask before acting. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Silverlight
Actually, Silverlight is supposed to be an alternative to Adobe's ubiquitous Flash. In fact, it's the *only* alternative, as nobody else has even attempted to offer one. I thought you were all opposed to monopolies and all in favor of alternatives? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Silverlight is a Johhny-come-lately, mee-too product that MS is now trying to shove down people's throats because we can. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations have alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used for their stream, or to have an alternate stream. Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time. Besides there is the Moonlight implementation which sometimes even works in Linux. There is a plugin for Firefox (which likely could be used by let's say Opera or Safari if there were a Safari version for Linux. One practice incidentally of some public radio stations that stream is to switch from Windows media to either Flash or MP3/4 format for streaming. That's a major improvement, but Silverlight is being written for and that almost assures it continuing for the foreseeable future. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM, chrper...@aol.com chrper...@aol.comwrote: I believe that the Insignia box is a Best Buy in-house brand. It's about $50 at Best Buy (maybe only $49.99, but . . . ). Interesting that it's the top rated on the one site. If I'd known that over the week-end I'd have probably just bought one and given up on the RCA box which is basically un-findable anywhere locally (to Baltimore). My dad has an Insignia box and is very happy with it, but he also has an outside automatic antenna. I got my Zenith at Circuit City so that isn't much help. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
Tony B wrote: Actually, Silverlight is supposed to be an alternative to Adobe's ubiquitous Flash. In fact, it's the *only* alternative, as nobody else has even attempted to offer one. I thought you were all opposed to monopolies and all in favor of alternatives? Are you naive or just making believe you are naive? We've all seen how MS does things like lure the public in with an alternative to something and then alters it so that it only works for Windows users. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *Thanks for posting this. They seem to (overwhelmingly) like the Zenith Insignia, but where can you get one? Amazon is out, Target and KMart don't seem to carry it. Are all the good brands now gone? Is this another lesson in the pitfalls of procrastination? I just noticed a recent post on the CECB forum that K-Mart had Zeniths which would lead me to suspect that Sears might as well. You can check availability for your zip code here. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05757748000P?vName=Computers+%26+Electronicskeyword=converter+boxes Fairfax county didn't show any availble. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!
My question still stands if they are diversified out of software what the heck are they selling on the side? They are very diversified within software/media. They bought Great Plains for their accounting software division. They have the MSNBC TV network. They own an internet portal with a search engine. Microsoft Studios develops media content. They sell software for PDAs and cell phones and set-top boxes. I think they still own 5% of Apple. The list goes on and on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!
El-cheapo is the reason M$ has any market-share. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Yes, but the middle ground appears to be named cheap. Consider the number of people with high levels of debt and then the shrinking number of jobs; personal computer buying appears to be at least 75% el-cheapo. And in the news... Microsoft profits sink 32 percent. Apple profits rise 15 percent. Apple earnings are now 40% of Microsoft's as the gap narrows further. Care to explain away reality? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? Looking for an inexpensive but reliable site. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Last Word on Laptop Hunters from CNET
I would never, never be so cruel as to write... As Apple celebrated, Microsoft canceled the company picnic. As Apple announced results that beat expectations, Microsoft had its first ever year-over-year dip in sales. As Apple announced a billion app downloads, Microsoft gritted its molars Are Apple's ads really better than Microsoft's? http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10227563-71.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I have several sites and domains with MacHighway. They're in Colorado, answer their own phones, and have always made things perfect. No snafus. They resell enom. The value they bring is huge. Their prices are not. I'd even call them cheap. I moved my accounts from 11 and have been thrilled with their service. One of three people always answer the phone within 30 seconds. Then they solve it without transfering you around. Amazing this day and age I think. cb _ On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:26, Frank Sestir fses...@verizon.net wrote: Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? Looking for an inexpensive but reliable site. Thanks *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Thanks for the advice, Betty, that worked for me. Mike On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I sometimes browse my hard drive from a browser, especially the 'invisible' system files, like the Samba manual or CUPS, instead of using command line. On my Mac I can browse my home folders/directory by using this location, file:///Users/betty/. I drag and drop the folder I want to view to the location bar in Firefox or SeaMonkey. Works like FTP. Result is simple HTML. It's been a long time since I did this in Windows, but it's similar, using the same kind of location information that you'd see at the C: prompt--maybe. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
How about non standard html coding? I have lost track of the number of web apps that will only run on IIS and only work client side on IE. Matthew On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Tony B wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not, because even Windows itself runs just fine on e.g. Macs. Not so for OS X - well, not easily anyway. Silverlight is still fairly new, but it works on all platforms. It's specious to claim that someday in the future when it becomes popular they'll throw some switch and make it only work in Windows. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: Actually, Silverlight is supposed to be an alternative to Adobe's ubiquitous Flash. In fact, it's the *only* alternative, as nobody else has even attempted to offer one. I thought you were all opposed to monopolies and all in favor of alternatives? Are you naive or just making believe you are naive? We've all seen how MS does things like lure the public in with an alternative to something and then alters it so that it only works for Windows users. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Try looking at www.yola.com. Depending on what your're doing it might be just fine. I wouldn't consider it ready for prime time though. I don't think there is an easy way to backup your site, yet. Read through the support forum to see what issues users are having. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Frank Sestir fses...@verizon.net wrote: Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? Looking for an inexpensive but reliable site. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Bill * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
Can you name a single example of that? Probably not... Java. Even the courts agreed. MS paid $750,000,000 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? I use 1and1.com for $10/mo. They are constantly adding features. They even have cheaper plans. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I just found out that Yahoo is closing down Geocities (where I have my Website www.geocities.com/mikesloane). The big advantage to me of Geocities is that it is *free*. Does anyone have a suggestion for something comparable at the same price? I don't need technical support, just some minimal space and some bandwidth so people can get to the site. Mike C Ballinger wrote: I have several sites and domains with MacHighway. They're in Colorado, answer their own phones, and have always made things perfect. No snafus. They resell enom. The value they bring is huge. Their prices are not. I'd even call them cheap. I moved my accounts from 11 and have been thrilled with their service. One of three people always answer the phone within 30 seconds. Then they solve it without transfering you around. Amazing this day and age I think. cb _ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
It depends on how much assistance, capabilities and bandwidth you want. GoDaddy is inexpensive and you pay additionally for more features. Yahoo seems to be rated highly. Network Solutions is another. I'd be curious to hear people's suggestions myself... Besides a place to plunk your website, what capabilities/ capacities do you want? db Frank Sestir wrote: Any favorites out there for webhosting? Anyone use Inmotion Hosting? Looking for an inexpensive but reliable site. Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
These web apps are owned by MS? Or are you talking 3rd party? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Matthew Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.comwrote: How about non standard html coding? I have lost track of the number of web apps that will only run on IIS and only work client side on IE. Matthew On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Tony B wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not, because even Windows itself runs just fine on e.g. Macs. Not so for OS X - well, not easily anyway. Silverlight is still fairly new, but it works on all platforms. It's specious to claim that someday in the future when it becomes popular they'll throw some switch and make it only work in Windows. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: Actually, Silverlight is supposed to be an alternative to Adobe's ubiquitous Flash. In fact, it's the *only* alternative, as nobody else has even attempted to offer one. I thought you were all opposed to monopolies and all in favor of alternatives? Are you naive or just making believe you are naive? We've all seen how MS does things like lure the public in with an alternative to something and then alters it so that it only works for Windows users. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
Huh? MS didn't develop Java, did they? I thought that was Sun. The OP said *MS* had a history of creating apps and then not sharing them with everyone for free. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not... Java. Even the courts agreed. MS paid $750,000,000 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating their iTunes? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time. Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing software down people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Madoff Pic
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Re: [CGUYS] Prepaid the Majority
We picked up a Verizon 700 minute calling card for $20 at Costco. It's less than 3 cents a minute with no monthly or connection fee from land lines, no expiration. You have to read the fine print when you buy a card though. 10-4 that! You may find that in-state calls cost you twice as many units (minutes) as inter-state calls. That's what we have learned on our ATT cards purchased from Sam's Club. BJ's also has a 700 minute Verizon card, but it has different rates for in-state, like the ATT card. There are thousands of convenience stores, international stores, tobacco shops that sell phone cards, each with different charges. Some cards have cheaper local access numbers and no maintenance fee, but most are toll-free access with per call, weekly or monthly fees. The Jupiter card looks good, but I haven't tried it. The Costco card is the only one I've found that has no fees or intrastate restrictions from land lines, but it has a 15% recharge surcharge, so just buy a new one and toss the old one. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
I can't get this to work in Firefox, IE7, or Opera. All I can see is a single directory, not a tree view. Or is there a trick I'm missing? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:02 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I sometimes browse my hard drive from a browser, especially the 'invisible' system files, like the Samba manual or CUPS, instead of using command line. On my Mac I can browse my home folders/directory by using this location, file:///Users/betty/. I drag and drop the folder I want to view to the location bar in Firefox or SeaMonkey. Works like FTP. Result is simple HTML. It's been a long time since I did this in Windows, but it's similar, using the same kind of location information that you'd see at the C: prompt--maybe. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Does anyone have a suggestion for something comparable at the same price? http://sites.google.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I've heard of nothing but trouble from free hosting. But for a long term family site that may be the cheapest way to go (you may still have to pay for the domain name). However, these days you need to consider the newer Web 2.0 solutions like Facebook and Myspace instead of an independent website. They do all the grunt work for you. Other than that, the only real question to ask a potential shared host is: What level CPU do you allow on a box before you buy and offload clients to a new server?. CPU load averages should be no higher than 1.0 per CPU. So, on a quad server, that's 4.0. Chances are they won't answer you, even if they could. Instead they trot out huge bandwidths and enormous disk quotas to entice you to overcrowded servers. Just be prepared to move if you aren't happy. Oh, and check out the host's forums BEFORE you sign up. Way too many people wait until they're having trouble to log into the support forums. You aren't looking for no trouble reports at all; people with trouble are more likely to post. What you're looking for is a speedy, friendly, competent Help staff. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: I just found out that Yahoo is closing down Geocities (where I have my Website www.geocities.com/mikesloane). The big advantage to me of Geocities is that it is *free*. Does anyone have a suggestion for something comparable at the same price? I don't need technical support, just some minimal space and some bandwidth so people can get to the site. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
You are correct, I can't save a tree view so it's not 100% of what I wanted but I think it will be close enough. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: I can't get this to work in Firefox, IE7, or Opera. All I can see is a single directory, not a tree view. Or is there a trick I'm missing? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:02 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I sometimes browse my hard drive from a browser, especially the 'invisible' system files, like the Samba manual or CUPS, instead of using command line. On my Mac I can browse my home folders/directory by using this location, file:///Users/betty/. I drag and drop the folder I want to view to the location bar in Firefox or SeaMonkey. Works like FTP. Result is simple HTML. It's been a long time since I did this in Windows, but it's similar, using the same kind of location information that you'd see at the C: prompt--maybe. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
MS developed a version for windows only that was tied closely with their own java based applets, this went against Sun when developing java. After the settlement MS agreed to discontinue java under their umbrella. I'm not sure if you can have both Sun and MS versions of java installed, but either way, MS's implementation of java would not run what was standard java. The accusation is basically creating a standard, then forcing that standard on everyone else indirectly since most people are using windows. To be fair, most reports say IE 8 is the most standardized version of IE out there. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Huh? MS didn't develop Java, did they? I thought that was Sun. The OP said *MS* had a history of creating apps and then not sharing them with everyone for free. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not... Java. Even the courts agreed. MS paid $750,000,000 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Madoff Pic
He wanted to make sure he didn't get any trojans while ripping off his billions. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup?id=7352101contentIndex=1page=2start=fal se * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Tony B wrote: Huh? MS didn't develop Java, did they? I thought that was Sun. The OP said *MS* had a history of creating apps and then not sharing them with everyone for free. Yes, Sun created Java, and created the spec for how Java had to behave. Microsoft created the first version of Java for Windows. But their version (sometimes called J++) had lots of extensions specific to their version. If you took advantage of those extensions, your Java program was no longer standard, and would only run on Windows. There may have been other more subtle changes, but I'm not sure of the specifics there. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not... Java. Even the courts agreed. MS paid $750,000,000 I think. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Which brings up the capacity issue. I liked your site... was interested in the guineas and the tractors ... but had a hard time changing pages because of the long latency... When you visit your site, you are probably seeing cached pages speedily but the rest of us have to wait ... db Mike Sloane wrote: I just found out that Yahoo is closing down Geocities (where I have my Website www.geocities.com/mikesloane). The big advantage to me of Geocities is that it is *free*. Does anyone have a suggestion for something comparable at the same price? I don't need technical support, just some minimal space and some bandwidth so people can get to the site. Mike C Ballinger wrote: I have several sites and domains with MacHighway. They're in Colorado, answer their own phones, and have always made things perfect. No snafus. They resell enom. The value they bring is huge. Their prices are not. I'd even call them cheap. I moved my accounts from 11 and have been thrilled with their service. One of three people always answer the phone within 30 seconds. Then they solve it without transfering you around. Amazing this day and age I think. cb _ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
MS suffered a big blow last year when Major League Baseball dropped Silverlight and are using Adobe Flash this year for the MLB streaming of games. It is a noticeable improvement. And Netflix switched from WMP to Silverlight last fall for its Watch Instantly streaming of movies. Many users are complaining bitterly about the loss of picture quality. And MS screwed up in not turning off screensaver, thereby interrupting movies in full screen mode. Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time. Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing software down people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
Is there any site which tests and rates web hosting sites re: page loading latency// CPU load averages, bandwidth, customer support etc. db Tony B wrote: I've heard of nothing but trouble from free hosting. But for a long term family site that may be the cheapest way to go (you may still have to pay for the domain name). However, these days you need to consider the newer Web 2.0 solutions like Facebook and Myspace instead of an independent website. They do all the grunt work for you. Other than that, the only real question to ask a potential shared host is: What level CPU do you allow on a box before you buy and offload clients to a new server?. CPU load averages should be no higher than 1.0 per CPU. So, on a quad server, that's 4.0. Chances are they won't answer you, even if they could. Instead they trot out huge bandwidths and enormous disk quotas to entice you to overcrowded servers. Just be prepared to move if you aren't happy. Oh, and check out the host's forums BEFORE you sign up. Way too many people wait until they're having trouble to log into the support forums. You aren't looking for no trouble reports at all; people with trouble are more likely to post. What you're looking for is a speedy, friendly, competent Help staff. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: I just found out that Yahoo is closing down Geocities (where I have my Website www.geocities.com/mikesloane). The big advantage to me of Geocities is that it is *free*. Does anyone have a suggestion for something comparable at the same price? I don't need technical support, just some minimal space and some bandwidth so people can get to the site. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating their iTunes? That stinks.They don't do that to Mac owners. Perhaps they think WFBs are used to being abused? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
Huh? MS didn't develop Java, did they? I thought that was Sun. The OP said *MS* had a history of creating apps and then not sharing them with everyone for free. So you don't know the very intersting history of what MS did with the Java VM on Windows? You really should learn more about your beloved's sordid history before shacking up. You might catch a disease! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I moved my accounts from 11 What problems did you have at 11? What should I be watching out for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Silverlight does work on most computers, since most computers run Windows, but who knows if this is the case here. Now, it's debatable as to how many computers actually have SilverLight installed on them, but the fact remains that web developers who code sites that lean towards Windows over other platforms are meeting market demands. Silverlight can be used under Linux, Novell with its Mono-project ported at least some functionality. I'm sure the same functionality can be ported to the BSDs and OSX. It's not perfect but it is better than let's say the available support for windows media with ASF 3.0 http://mono-project.com/MoonlightSupportedPlatforms * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing software down people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest. I remember WordPerfect and WordStar being the dominant word processors, with Lotus and MS being real also rans. WordPerfect at the time was a much better choice for most folks who wanted a word processor. Word became ubiquitous and now is popular, it didn't win because it was a better choice, it won because it was available and WP just couldn't ever quite compete in Windows for whatever reasons. To this day, the concept of Reveal Codes in Word is a difficult one to implement, yet anyone who ever had to look for why something didn't print right in WordPerfect or a document didn't format correctly knows why it should have been. Whether it's shoved down the users throats or just get used by programmers is irrelevant, it's the results and note I don't normally use Windows either, haven't for quite some time despite all of the hassles associated with not doing so. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating their iTunes? That stinks.They don't do that to Mac owners. Perhaps they think WFBs are used to being abused? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
Can you name a single example of that? Probably not, because even Windows itself runs just fine on e.g. Macs. Not so for OS X - well, not easily anyway. Silverlight is still fairly new, but it works on all platforms. It's specious to claim that someday in the future when it becomes popular they'll throw some switch and make it only work in Windows. Are you naive or just making believe you are naive? We've all seen how MS does things like lure the public in with an alternative to something and then alters it so that it only works for Windows users. Examples: 1- Microsoft rewrote Java without Sun's permission so that it wasn't universal, platform neutral. 2- Microsoft has web authoring tools that create web pages that only work in Internet Explorer, and if not IE, only in Windows with sites for Unix/Linux/Macs crippled. 3- Internet Explorer for Macs was discontinued with v.5, although IE-only sites are plentiful. 4- MS Windows Media Player was discontinued with v.9. Non-Windows versions have always been crippled. Some sites require the newest version, i.e. Windows-only. 5- Silverlight doesn't run on my MacBook because it has Tiger instead of Leopard. Almost all sites with Silverlight require newest version. Adobe Flash runs just fine on my MacBook and our old G4 and G5. MS SUCKS. I'm still mad at MS for charging me $30 for installation disks of Windows 2000 back when they first crippled, then discontinued VirtualPC for Macs. After getting my money, they said that the software was discontinued [because they delayed shipment until after it was discontinued] and, by the way, refused to refund my payment. Only after a month of long distance phone calls and faxes, they sent me upgrade disks which are useless, then after another month of talking with supervisers, and supervisers' supervisers, I finally got my installation disks. Adobe can be annoying, but never abusive like MS. Most Mac users I know also use Windows, some use Linux. We know what good software acts like and compared to everything else, MS products are mediocre at best, and the company is the same. Apple never promised that OS X would run on anything other than Macs, but the Internet must be platform neutral. MS works hard to avoid that. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Mike Did you do this on a Mac or in Windows? Does it or something similar work in Windows? Betty Thanks for the advice, Betty, that worked for me. Mike On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I sometimes browse my hard drive from a browser, especially the 'invisible' system files, like the Samba manual or CUPS, instead of using command line. On my Mac I can browse my home folders/directory by using this location, file:///Users/betty/. I drag and drop the folder I want to view to the location bar in Firefox or SeaMonkey. Works like FTP. Result is simple HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Sharing Thunderbird
We have nine computers tied together that can all access a Dell that stores all of the data for my company. Is it possible to install Thunderbird on the server and have access by anyone to a unique address book stored with Thunderbird and be able to send email from the server using Thunderbird? I understand that there will probably be a restriction of one user at a time, but that is acceptable. Thanks, John. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= Aprilfooter427NO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Win 7, firefox, looks like you said, like an FTP listing. As I said the only thing I can't seem to do that I can do without is also saving the 'links' of the nested folders. If I save the web page in full and open it on another machine, it of course does not open the folder links. But the main folders show up fine. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:10 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Mike Did you do this on a Mac or in Windows? Does it or something similar work in Windows? Betty Thanks for the advice, Betty, that worked for me. Mike On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I sometimes browse my hard drive from a browser, especially the 'invisible' system files, like the Samba manual or CUPS, instead of using command line. On my Mac I can browse my home folders/directory by using this location, file:///Users/betty/. I drag and drop the folder I want to view to the location bar in Firefox or SeaMonkey. Works like FTP. Result is simple HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck with Safari. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :) On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck with Safari. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silverlight
My single example was going to be Internet Explorer, but I see beety has already stated that and more. Steve Tony B wrote: Can you name a single example of that? Probably not, because even Windows itself runs just fine on e.g. Macs. Not so for OS X - well, not easily anyway. Silverlight is still fairly new, but it works on all platforms. It's specious to claim that someday in the future when it becomes popular they'll throw some switch and make it only work in Windows. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Tony B wrote: Actually, Silverlight is supposed to be an alternative to Adobe's ubiquitous Flash. In fact, it's the *only* alternative, as nobody else has even attempted to offer one. I thought you were all opposed to monopolies and all in favor of alternatives? Are you naive or just making believe you are naive? We've all seen how MS does things like lure the public in with an alternative to something and then alters it so that it only works for Windows users. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Win98 printer issue
My relative has an issue with his Gateway Win 98 computer which I am trying to help him resolve (long distance). He is trying to hook up a Compaq IJ650 Printer with a USB cable. He has lost the installation disk but I was able to find the drivers for it (http://tinyurl.com/6spkf), and send them down. With great difficulty installing them, he was able to get it working over the weekend. But now it no longer works. Besides the obvious (get a new computer!), is there something that might help solve this problem? Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
b_s-wilk wrote: The two converter boxes that I bought have a feature that it turns itself off after one hour of use (the box, not the TV). What this means is that you can't use a VCR to record a program later because the box will be turned off by the time of the recording. I don't know if all are like these, or just mine are. Please name the brand to avoid! This model is a Zenith DTT900. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
what don't you like about Firefox, Mike? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :) On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck with Safari. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I regularly participate in 4 different hosting forums and we're used to hearing people moving from 11 with nothing but complaints. Of course, those are the ones that leave - the ones that are having trouble. The main reason I didn't go with them for my sites is because they're in Europe somewhere and on the rare occasion when something goes wrong I want to be able to CALL a REAL person that speaks my own language. I think their only real problem is the same as many others - overselling their servers. They're worse than most with those full page ads promising the world for cheap. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I moved my accounts from 11 What problems did you have at 11? What should I be watching out for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
I do like it...unless you want me to name some things I don't like? Not sure if you may have misread or I wasn't clear? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Judy Cosler jfcos...@gmail.com wrote: what don't you like about Firefox, Mike? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :) On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck with Safari. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sharing Thunderbird
No Thunderbird is a email client software... not a server software. But the good news is it works with most any server mail software. You should give more particulars of exactly what you are trying to do ... for how many people ... in what locations ... how often etc. Describe it all. Then we could suggest an appropriate solution. db johnmen...@aol.com wrote: We have nine computers tied together that can all access a Dell that stores all of the data for my company. Is it possible to install Thunderbird on the server and have access by anyone to a unique address book stored with Thunderbird and be able to send email from the server using Thunderbird? I understand that there will probably be a restriction of one user at a time, but that is acceptable. Thanks, John. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= Aprilfooter427NO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
How can you tell who doesn't oversell their servers? db Tony B wrote: I regularly participate in 4 different hosting forums and we're used to hearing people moving from 11 with nothing but complaints. Of course, those are the ones that leave - the ones that are having trouble. The main reason I didn't go with them for my sites is because they're in Europe somewhere and on the rare occasion when something goes wrong I want to be able to CALL a REAL person that speaks my own language. I think their only real problem is the same as many others - overselling their servers. They're worse than most with those full page ads promising the world for cheap. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I moved my accounts from 11 What problems did you have at 11? What should I be watching out for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win98 printer issue
(http://tinyurl.com/6spkf), and send them down. With great difficulty installing them, he was able to get it working over the weekend. But now it no longer works. Besides the obvious (get a new computer!), is there something that might help solve this problem? First did he install the printer as his default printer? 2nd, did USB support for the printer go away after he rebooted? Often with win98, USB was problematical to put it mildly. To be systematic, I'ld reinstall the USB drivers first, then the printer drivers, then try printing from something like Notepad. I suspect this will be a repeated ritual as long as USB printing and Win98 go together. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :) took this to mean you didn't like FF. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I do like it...unless you want me to name some things I don't like? Not sure if you may have misread or I wasn't clear? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Judy Cosler jfcos...@gmail.com wrote: what don't you like about Firefox, Mike? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :) On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box. Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck with Safari. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sharing Thunderbird
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:29 PM, johnmen...@aol.com wrote: We have nine computers tied together that can all access a Dell that stores all of the data for my company. Is it possible to install Thunderbird on the server and have access by anyone to a unique address book stored with Thunderbird and be able to send email from the server using Thunderbird? I understand that there will probably be a restriction of one user at a time, but that is acceptable. 1. Typically, Thunderbird will store settings and email and newsgroups for each user in user-specific folder. 2. Sharing a central address book is usually done by having an LDAP server that Thunderbird will use to look up addresses. Or something similar. 3. You could store Thunderbird on a server folder, and each user would be running it on their own computer's memory. So no real restriction on one user at a time. 4. You could probably push out the Thunderbird settings for the central address book, the SMTP server, etc. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500ref=mf * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sharing Thunderbird
oops... I didn't see the first line the first time. If all you need is a shared address book, setting up an LDAP server would probably be the answer. See: http://www.gracion.com/server/whatldap.html Thunderbird / Tools / Account Settings/ Composition Addressing is where Thunderbird's LDAP settings are. How do you handle your company mail now? Just tell whomever to add LDAP services... db db wrote: No Thunderbird is a email client software... not a server software. But the good news is it works with most any server mail software. You should give more particulars of exactly what you are trying to do ... for how many people ... in what locations ... how often etc. Describe it all. Then we could suggest an appropriate solution. db johnmen...@aol.com wrote: We have nine computers tied together that can all access a Dell that stores all of the data for my company. Is it possible to install Thunderbird on the server and have access by anyone to a unique address book stored with Thunderbird and be able to send email from the server using Thunderbird? I understand that there will probably be a restriction of one user at a time, but that is acceptable. Thanks, John. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= Aprilfooter427NO62) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
The semi-flip answer: The ones that are out of business don't. To stay competitive with the likes of discounters like 11, they all have to put hundreds of accounts on shared servers nowadays. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: How can you tell who doesn't oversell their servers? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
The main reason I didn't go with them for my sites is because they're in Europe somewhere and on the rare occasion when something goes wrong I want to be able to CALL a REAL person that speaks my own language. The parent company is German. Frankly, I would rather have a German than an American managing my server. Germans are not as slovenly. Xenophobia perhaps? Their US operation is headquartered in the German city of Philadelphia on the banks of the Delaware River. They speak a strange dialect of German called English. I just do not see that as a reasonable problem. They answer tech support phones 24/7, hold times are short, and the techs I speak to are not idiots. Can't ask for more. I think their only real problem is the same as many others - overselling their servers. They're worse than most with those full page ads promising the world for cheap. So far so good on that. My sites have a good bit of Perl and PHP scripting behind them and are executing quickly. Only time will tell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
Art Clemons Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing software down people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest. I remember WordPerfect and WordStar being the dominant word processors, with Lotus and MS being real also rans. WordPerfect at the time was a much better choice for most folks who wanted a word processor. Word became ubiquitous and now is popular, it didn't win because it was a better choice, it won because it was available and WP just couldn't ever quite compete in Windows for snip According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The document was very interesting. It was things I had all along but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and document. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Whip me, beat me, make me code in COBOL!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Sharing Thunderbird
We have nine computers tied together that can all access a Dell that stores all of the data for my company. Is it possible to install Thunderbird on the server and have access by anyone to a unique address book stored with Thunderbird and be able to send email from the server using Thunderbird? This would work better if you focused on the server configuration instead of the client. If you set up a single account on the server you could then use individual copies of Thunderbird on each desktop to access this account. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
We haven't heard back from the OP yet, telling us just what he needs. I still think if we're talking a small site, he may be better off with a [free] blog or Myspace site. Much easier for the average person to create and maintain. They don't even have to learn what FTP is, much less oddities like .htaccess files. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
Avoid this one? Isn't this the one that is recommended by Consumer Reports and the top vote getter in the CECB forum mentioned in this thread? Randall On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.comwrote: b_s-wilk wrote: The two converter boxes that I bought have a feature that it turns itself off after one hour of use (the box, not the TV). What this means is that you can't use a VCR to record a program later because the box will be turned off by the time of the recording. I don't know if all are like these, or just mine are. Please name the brand to avoid! This model is a Zenith DTT900. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?
*I'm a bit wary of buying this sort of thing online. What if it doesn't work out for some reason (reception problems, etc.)? Then you could be stuck with the hassle and expense of shipping it back. Seems like this is something that you really can't tell how it will work - no matter what reviews or others say - until you try it out in your particular situation. For example, I'm in an apartment and there is no option for a roof-top antenna. So hoping to find a decent model in local store, without too much running around. Randall * On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: *Where did you get your RCA brand converter? Guessing it is better to get at a local store in case there is a problem and a need to return them. I got them online. Local stores did not have much to choose from and whenever I found something worth buying it was out of stock. Online prices were better too. The one I like is the RCA DTA800. With revision digits tacked on the model I have is a DTA800B1. One feature I failed to mention is composite video out. This gives a much better signal than boxes that are only RF in and RF out. Composite video bypasses your old set's tuner and avoids the limits inherent in an RF signal. The RCA box also supports a smart antenna. This is a new type of antenna that electronically rotates for best signal on each station. This is done using signal strength info set to the antenna by the RCA box. I do not have one, but reviews I read were good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Norton i.e. bug/virus/trojan
Is there a bug/virus/trojan that causes the program to intentionally think, the computer is not protected? I have Norton Internet Security 2009. Sometimes it shows that the computer is protected, with a green checkmark and, sometimes it shows the computer as not being protected with a red 'x'. This happens on a daily basis. So I am wondering if there is something that causes the program to say the computer is protected, when it isn't and, vice versa. I will check online but, anyone who has encountered this sort of problem, please let me know. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Norton i.e. bug/virus/trojan
There might be non-malware problems. FWIW, I saw that kind of flaky behavior in an NIS version (not sure which) under Vista but couldn't pin down the cause. I suspect in many cases that NIS detected a pending update during startup and something got confused. However, (anecdote alert) the new Norton 360 has been much better, and I haven't seen any real flakiness with it so far. -Andy Christopher Range wrote: Is there a bug/virus/trojan that causes the program to intentionally think, the computer is not protected? I have Norton Internet Security 2009. Sometimes it shows that the computer is protected, with a green checkmark and, sometimes it shows the computer as not being protected with a red 'x'. This happens on a daily basis. So I am wondering if there is something that causes the program to say the computer is protected, when it isn't and, vice versa. I will check online but, anyone who has encountered this sort of problem, please let me know. Christopher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] folder list
Tree command. DOS. It's been so long. Can't you use the terminal, or I forget what it's called in Windows [start menu, somewhere], and bring up the tree, then copy and paste or save it as a text file? I can do that in the OS X Terminal. Or print screen? Win 7, firefox, looks like you said, like an FTP listing. As I said the only thing I can't seem to do that I can do without is also saving the 'links' of the nested folders. If I save the web page in full and open it on another machine, it of course does not open the folder links. But the main folders show up fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
The main reason I didn't go with them for my sites is because they're in Europe somewhere and on the rare occasion when something goes wrong I want to be able to CALL a REAL person that speaks my own language. The parent company is German. Frankly, I would rather have a German than an American managing my server. Germans are not as slovenly... I looked at the European sites. All are in countries where most people speak English at least as well as Americans, often better. Maybe I'll try 11. Yahoo mentioned closing down Geocities in the near future. 11 is in Philly? I lived there for 8 years, and I think some people there speak English. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Webhosting Question
I think some people there speak English. You heard it? Or you heard OF it? Possibly you were hearing people from Boston who happened to be visiting. :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
