[CGUYS] Google free DNS
I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)! http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/ Quick - somebody else try it first! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
Read a sellers feedback and it should disclose that stuff. I hope that you left appropriate feedback for that seller, and complained to Ebay. Ebay will pull the seller if it is found out they have violated copyright. Stewart At 08:52 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: At 7:52 PM -0500 12/4/09, tjpa wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:45 PM, John H. Davis wrote: 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me right now. Much better prices on ebay, Where you can find yourself buying home-made copies, complete with cover art on the disc. That's what I encountered when buying 10.4 on eBay. I had to install a DVD burner on my G4 in order to read the damned thing (the regular DVD reader wouldn't handle a home-burnt DVD). -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
At 7:52 PM -0500 12/4/09, tjpa wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:45 PM, John H. Davis wrote: 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me right now. Much better prices on ebay, Where you can find yourself buying home-made copies, complete with cover art on the disc. That's what I encountered when buying 10.4 on eBay. I had to install a DVD burner on my G4 in order to read the damned thing (the regular DVD reader wouldn't handle a home-burnt DVD). -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Isn't reliable? Usually the problem with flash is how it is handled or mishandled I should say. I have a few digital cameras and am using cards that are in and out once to twice a week. I use both the card reader on my laptop, and a thumb drive that reads the cards. No problems. For consumer level and short of pro it is still very good. Stewart At 08:49 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: What do you do when you're shooting on location and run out of HD space? Buy another camera? Flash isn't reliable enough yet. Solid state drives are absurdly expensive and cumbersome compared to tape. Don't want to lose hours of video because of the wrong choice of media. Maybe removable solid state drives will be available at a reasonable price some day, but they're hundreds of times more expensive than digital tapes. I want an organic drive when it's ready. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
My G5 1.8 dual is getting a bit long in the tooth.At !0.39 it did everything I wanted it to but now several apps I want to update require 10.4 or later. 10.4 is no longer available (except at outrageous prices) and a 10.5 upgrade requires 10.4 My processor is a ppc so 10.6 is out for me. Amazing. Leopard costs more now than when it was released! I'll ask around. I know some people who upgraded their iMacs recently. I think at least one may have the OEM version and not the one that came with their computer. One might be willing to part with it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
If yer a pro, you don't run out. These cameras are state of the art by any standard. You can keep your film..can you find another camera that can record in 4k as these do? This all amounts to tools for the job, to believe in absolutes is wrong. Tape is good, other mediums are good. You do what works. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > Depends on what you needs are, the new Red cameras are ssd/HD flash based. >> These things are shooting 4k too. >> > > What do you do when you're shooting on location and run out of HD space? > Buy another camera? Flash isn't reliable enough yet. Solid state drives are > absurdly expensive and cumbersome compared to tape. Don't want to lose hours > of video because of the wrong choice of media. > > Maybe removable solid state drives will be available at a reasonable price > some day, but they're hundreds of times more expensive than digital tapes. I > want an organic drive when it's ready. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
Lots of sw on ebay! Will a "Full" version upgrade a 10.39 or do I have to do a clean install? TIA, John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Depends on what you needs are, the new Red cameras are ssd/HD flash based. These things are shooting 4k too. What do you do when you're shooting on location and run out of HD space? Buy another camera? Flash isn't reliable enough yet. Solid state drives are absurdly expensive and cumbersome compared to tape. Don't want to lose hours of video because of the wrong choice of media. Maybe removable solid state drives will be available at a reasonable price some day, but they're hundreds of times more expensive than digital tapes. I want an organic drive when it's ready. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Actually the cards are relatively cheap and have as long a life as the tapes. Video heads are notoriously delicate and get out of alignment easily. Unless you are using a pro rig the ones with cards are better than the ones with discs. Kodak has a relatively inexpensive one that did quite well in a review not too long ago (I cant remember which one did it, but it was pretty good comparisons) Stewart At 08:03 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Most pros use tape. Probably true, because most of them bought their gear years ago. Nope. New camcorders have tape. SD cards are good too, but easy to lose, and expensive compared to tape. Some have both tape and SD. Direct to DVD is stupid [Sony again?], and hard drives are too limited. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Depends on what you needs are, the new Red cameras are ssd/HD flash based. These things are shooting 4k too. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: >> >>> Most pros use tape. >>> >> >> Probably true, because most of them bought their gear years ago. >> > > Nope. New camcorders have tape. SD cards are good too, but easy to lose, > and expensive compared to tape. Some have both tape and SD. Direct to DVD is > stupid [Sony again?], and hard drives are too limited. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
The guy asked a straightforward question about video. There's no need for 2-3 rabid Mac fans to pile on and hijack the topic. Take your medications already. I'm a pro. Don't have to be rabid to know which hardware and software is best for results and the bottom line. What's your problem? Can't accept that Macs are better for video? Go ahead, watch video on your peecee. It's probably made on a Mac. Even Microsoft commercials have been made on Macs. Get over it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Most pros use tape. Probably true, because most of them bought their gear years ago. Nope. New camcorders have tape. SD cards are good too, but easy to lose, and expensive compared to tape. Some have both tape and SD. Direct to DVD is stupid [Sony again?], and hard drives are too limited. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
I'd look on ebay if all you want is OS 10.4. That is were I got my version of 10.4 - new. I just did search on ebay and got around 20 hits. Steve John H. Davis wrote: My G5 1.8 dual is getting a bit long in the tooth.At !0.39 it did everything I wanted it to but now several apps I want to update require 10.4 or later. 10.4 is no longer available (except at outrageous prices) and a 10.5 upgrade requires 10.4 My processor is a ppc so 10.6 is out for me.I didn't expect this machine to become a white elephant so soon.Any suggestions would be appreciated as 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me right now. TIA, John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Victor Subervi wrote: So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on a Mac? Actually, yes you can. I'm suprised no-one here mentioned that you can run Windows on a Mac, either via dual-booting (Boot Camp) or in a virtual machine (Parallels). I'll let someone more familiar with those describe them in more detail. Rebooting [dual boot] is a pain, and Parallels costs. VitualBox is free, and I'm sure Victor has versions of Windows that he can use. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
The Republicans have virtually no one ready or with high enough profile to even look at 12 and a presidential race. Plus with the way the left is devouring Obama and his policies I am not sure what 12 will bring us. Oh I am certain Palin will run, but I do not think she is quite up to the task. Stewart At 06:45 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: They are all too loony for my tastes, but if everything is relative Huck seemed kind of down to earth compared to the planet that Sara and Beck seem to be on. But it sounds like you know more about Huckabee than I would ever want to. A few years ago could you have imagined a Republican party where Newt was just middle of the road? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
They are all too loony for my tastes, but if everything is relative Huck seemed kind of down to earth compared to the planet that Sara and Beck seem to be on. But it sounds like you know more about Huckabee than I would ever want to. A few years ago could you have imagined a Republican party where Newt was just middle of the road? tjpa wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Jordan wrote: Oh, please, please let the likes of Sara and Beck run for office. That would be interesting You mean Huck was not loony enough for your tastes? You should read more of his stuff. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:45 PM, John H. Davis wrote: 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me right now. Much better prices on ebay, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
Amazon? Craigslist? amazon is listing used copies for 80 bux. I'd check craigslist in your area..or a local MUG. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM, John H. Davis wrote: > My G5 1.8 dual is getting a bit long in the tooth.At !0.39 it did > everything I wanted it to but now several apps I want to update require 10.4 > or later. > > 10.4 is no longer available (except at outrageous prices) and a 10.5 > upgrade requires 10.4 > > My processor is a ppc so 10.6 is out for me.I didn't expect this > machine to become a white elephant so soon.Any suggestions would be > appreciated as 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me > right now. > > TIA, > John > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: We avoid hiring too many smart people...
Damn heroic aren't they? He assumes these people would just..show up if asked. My brother in law called working at google 'weird'. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM, tjp wrote: > "I recently had a discussion with an engineer at Google and I pointed out a > handful of people that I thought were fruitful in the industry and I > proposed that we should hire these people," Horowitz told today's > conference. "But [the engineer] stopped me and said: 'These people are > actually important to have outside of Google. They're very Google people > that have the right philosophies around these things, and it's important > that we not hire these guys. It's better for the ecosystem to have an honest > industry, as opposed to aggregating all this talent at Google.'" > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/google_hiring_practrices/ > > What would M$ do? > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade
My G5 1.8 dual is getting a bit long in the tooth.At !0.39 it did everything I wanted it to but now several apps I want to update require 10.4 or later. 10.4 is no longer available (except at outrageous prices) and a 10.5 upgrade requires 10.4 My processor is a ppc so 10.6 is out for me.I didn't expect this machine to become a white elephant so soon.Any suggestions would be appreciated as 299$ for a scalped copy of 10.4 is out of the realm for me right now. TIA, John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Google: We avoid hiring too many smart people...
"I recently had a discussion with an engineer at Google and I pointed out a handful of people that I thought were fruitful in the industry and I proposed that we should hire these people," Horowitz told today's conference. "But [the engineer] stopped me and said: 'These people are actually important to have outside of Google. They're very Google people that have the right philosophies around these things, and it's important that we not hire these guys. It's better for the ecosystem to have an honest industry, as opposed to aggregating all this talent at Google.'" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/google_hiring_practrices/ What would M$ do? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Most pros use tape. Probably true, because most of them bought their gear years ago. But what should one buy today? Not beta! http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-SVAV100-Digital-Recorder-Optical/dp/BDCXJJ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] sugarsync
I found this when looking at dropbox. The concept is the same, except with sugarsync you get 2 free gigs that has a client not only for iphone but android...must be one of those silly android developers slaving away for no money.. For those not familiar, dropbox and sugarsync allow you to have a folder in the cloud and share that folder with any number of computers you want including your mobile device. Cool beans. www.sugarsync.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
If you are getting/building a pc, then more power is always better. i7 cpu...more ram more ram... If you are near a fry's electronics there are deals galore for cpu/mobo's, newegg also carries deals. As I said, check out the AVS forums, might want to poke around the revision 3 forums also. I know Patrick Norton spent oodles of time getting hardware and software to get he best (read timely) transcoding done for his shows online. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:52 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Victor Subervi wrote: > >> Regarding everyone's recommendation for iMac...no. That's nice I can buy >> cheap s/w to edit video. What about my Adobe Suite for Windoze? Can I get >> the suite for $200? No. I have other s/w as well. It's not just a matter >> of >> editing video. >> > > Sorry. I assumed you really wanted to edit videos and run a successful > business. My bad. > > Go ahead. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
Most of the violence has been from the left lately...love that video of the nice black man getting beat by union members...funny the big O hasn't said much about that one. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jordan wrote: > As the chief moony fades, it looks like much of the radical crap he has > supported will struggle, since his sons seem too busy living the high life > to care. > > And on another subject: > Oh, please, please let the likes of Sara and Beck run for office. That > would be interesting.as long as they don't insight some fellow nut > case to take a shot at the President. > > > tjpa wrote: > >> On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:49 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Not nearly to the same degree as in the case with the Washington >>> Times. >>> >> >> Today's news: Mass layoffs at TWT. It is letting 40% of its staff go, >> dropping things like local news and sports, to focus laser-like on its >> far-right agenda. They will also start charging customers what the paper is >> truly worth: $zero. >> >> The company plans to expand TheConservatives.com, its newly launched Web >> site. >> >> >> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/twt-announces-new-structure-layoffs/ >> >> > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
Nope. Stewart At 03:46 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I got it three times. Our Listserver rejects duplicate posts. I only got it once. Are you using W7W7W7? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Jordan wrote: Oh, please, please let the likes of Sara and Beck run for office. That would be interesting You mean Huck was not loony enough for your tastes? You should read more of his stuff. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Victor Subervi wrote: Regarding everyone's recommendation for iMac...no. That's nice I can buy cheap s/w to edit video. What about my Adobe Suite for Windoze? Can I get the suite for $200? No. I have other s/w as well. It's not just a matter of editing video. Sorry. I assumed you really wanted to edit videos and run a successful business. My bad. Go ahead. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: I got it three times. Our Listserver rejects duplicate posts. I only got it once. Are you using W7W7W7? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
The guy asked a straightforward question about video. There's no need for 2-3 rabid Mac fans to pile on and hijack the topic. Take your medications already. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] JPEGs and NEFs
Open up the my computer icon and change views. It is all in there. Stewart At 02:52 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote: Toshiba laptop, Vista Home Basic. Why is it that Vista doesn't display thumbnails of Jpegs and NEFs in a folder? Even XP did that. What do I need to turn on or do to activate this capability? Thanks in advance. Nick Crettier Front Royal VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] JPEGs and NEFs
Toshiba laptop, Vista Home Basic. Why is it that Vista doesn't display thumbnails of Jpegs and NEFs in a folder? Even XP did that. What do I need to turn on or do to activate this capability? Thanks in advance. Nick Crettier Front Royal VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
As the chief moony fades, it looks like much of the radical crap he has supported will struggle, since his sons seem too busy living the high life to care. And on another subject: Oh, please, please let the likes of Sara and Beck run for office. That would be interesting.as long as they don't insight some fellow nut case to take a shot at the President. tjpa wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 12:49 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not nearly to the same degree as in the case with the Washington Times. Today's news: Mass layoffs at TWT. It is letting 40% of its staff go, dropping things like local news and sports, to focus laser-like on its far-right agenda. They will also start charging customers what the paper is truly worth: $zero. The company plans to expand TheConservatives.com, its newly launched Web site. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/twt-announces-new-structure-layoffs/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, mike wrote: You can, but there is no point in this case. If he were just going to run windows, he could build a machine much cheaper than buying a mac. The point is to have the best os with some of the best video editing software around. Well, yes, but by buying a Mac and also having a way of running Windows, he doesn't have to replace all his software at once. I don't know much about video editing, and even less about Flash animations. But, I've no doubt the Mac software for both is much better than equivalent Windows software. I'm certainly enjoying getting used to my new Mac Mini. :-) On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Victor Subervi wrote: So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on a Mac? Actually, yes you can. I'm suprised no-one here mentioned that you can run Windows on a Mac, either via dual-booting (Boot Camp) or in a virtual machine (Parallels). I'll let someone more familiar with those describe them in more detail. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
A forum like avsforums may be a good place to look also. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, mike wrote: > You can, but there is no point in this case. If he were just going to run > windows, he could build a machine much cheaper than buying a mac. The point > is to have the best os with some of the best video editing software around. > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Vicky Staubly wrote: > >> On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Victor Subervi wrote: >> >>> So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze >>> on a >>> Mac? >>> >> >> Actually, yes you can. I'm suprised no-one here mentioned that you can >> run Windows on a Mac, either via dual-booting (Boot Camp) or in a virtual >> machine (Parallels). I'll let someone more familiar with those describe >> them in more detail. >> >> -- >> Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com >> >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
You can, but there is no point in this case. If he were just going to run windows, he could build a machine much cheaper than buying a mac. The point is to have the best os with some of the best video editing software around. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Vicky Staubly wrote: > On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Victor Subervi wrote: > >> So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on >> a >> Mac? >> > > Actually, yes you can. I'm suprised no-one here mentioned that you can > run Windows on a Mac, either via dual-booting (Boot Camp) or in a virtual > machine (Parallels). I'll let someone more familiar with those describe > them in more detail. > > -- > Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on >> a >> Mac? >> > > You can sell your Adobe Premiere, and budget $199 [or less--buy discount > for $150 new] for Final Cut Express with the money you save by using a Mac > with a good $700 prosumer camera instead of buying a pro camera that you > don't need with Windows. > > I use both Macs and PCs. I run Windows on my Mac using VirtualBox software > and an XP installer from a dead Dell. I have Premiere. Haven't used it in > ages. Final Cut Express will pay for itself before your first job is done. > If not, go back to programming. LOL. I do it all until I can get back to jobbing out, then I'll just sell and have fun doing other things (performing, scuba diving, etc.). Ok, I'll get a Mac ;) V * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on a Mac? You can sell your Adobe Premiere, and budget $199 [or less--buy discount for $150 new] for Final Cut Express with the money you save by using a Mac with a good $700 prosumer camera instead of buying a pro camera that you don't need with Windows. I use both Macs and PCs. I run Windows on my Mac using VirtualBox software and an XP installer from a dead Dell. I have Premiere. Haven't used it in ages. Final Cut Express will pay for itself before your first job is done. If not, go back to programming. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Victor Subervi wrote: So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on a Mac? Actually, yes you can. I'm suprised no-one here mentioned that you can run Windows on a Mac, either via dual-booting (Boot Camp) or in a virtual machine (Parallels). I'll let someone more familiar with those describe them in more detail. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: > Tony B asks what kind of video I'm editing. I'll be buying a high-end video > cam (probably a Canon XM2) to shoot for Web sites. Most pros use tape. Tape is better than hard drives. Tapes are limited to the number of tapes you can fit in your camera bag. Hard drives are limited to the size of the drive--a really bad idea for cameras. SD cards can have unlimited storage but aren't as reliable as tapes. Tapes are NOT fragile. Neither are the heads. Don't buy Sony. It will disappoint you. Specs are good, quality isn't. I've had lots of Sony products, but never again. They all broke before their time [5 years on a TV, 2 years on a camera, 3 years on a walkman, 1 year on a phone] except for my Apple Trinitron monitor that I wish would break so I can replace it. I have a Canon Elura [uses tapes] "prosumer" camera. I also have a VHS Hitachi that I bought in the '80s--still works. Panasonic also makes a good pro video cam. Find one that has manual settings, can use filters, external mic, has line setting. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
So Betty, can I run my Adobe Premiere (that sucks:/ ) built for Windoze on a Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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You're a victim of the fallacy that Macs are expensive. They're not, especially if you're using a computer for business. The software isn't necessarily expensive either, and for business, it's a tax deductible expense. The best video editing software is Final Cut Pro, hands down. You can also use Final Cut Express for only $199. I use it and it has most of the important features of FCP. Remember iMovie, iDVD, Jahshaka, etc. are free. When you produce video and graphics for clients, time is extremely important. Your productivity with the Mac will be at least 30% greater than with a PC, with less downtime for maintenance. You can charge more for a better, faster product. Can't afford to buy a new Mac? Mine is two years old. It's as good for video editing as a new PC. It's the software and the OS, not the raw speed of the processor that makes a difference. Is a "new" refurbished iMac 21.5-inch 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 with 4GB RAM too expensive at $899? Not big enough? How about an iMac 24-inch 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM for $1,149? All are blue tag specials at store.apple.com. We bought a used PowerMac G5 about 6 months ago for $200. Can you afford that? Forget the PC. Save your money. Windows doesn't do video well. Pros switched to Windows in the late '90s, and switched back to Macs in droves with the release of Final Cut and more video-friendly hardware. Don't make the mistake of thinking that cheaper is better. You can't afford not to use a Mac for video, especially if it's your business. After you add all the things you need to make your PC somewhat comparable to the right Mac for the job, it will cost more, and waste a lot of time, too. Who will keep your PC running and how much time will that take away from your main product? The biggest 'problem' with Macs is that they last too long, and remain productive twice as long as PCs. How much will your PC cost? How much for software? Specs? Which software? Adobe Premiere sucks. Avid software is too expensive, as is Premiere. Flash [not NLE] works better on a Mac. What other affordable pro NLE software is there for Windows? I've rebuilt and upgraded Macs for years, PCs too. It's both the hardware and the software you need to consider. It makes more sense to finance the right computer instead of building the wrong one, especially if you're planning to spend $2K on a camera. Betty Mike suggested I use a Mac. Forget the Mac. I can't afford the s/w, if you read between the lines what I'm saying here. Tony B asks what kind of video I'm editing. I'll be buying a high-end video cam (probably a Canon XM2) to shoot for Web sites. db (database?) recommended I google, always an excellent suggestion, and I discovered it appears to be more a matter of memory (which is obvious) and of having a firewire, as Tony B also recommended. Betty asked if I'll be doing animation. Probably not, but I will build with that in mind. I will definitely offer animation to my clients; however, by then, I almost certainly will be back in a position to outsource overseas. She also recommends a Mac. My concern, however, once again, is the matter of buying expensive s/w (sorry) when I can get around that if I get a PC. Again, once I'm up on my feet, I will be jobbing this out overseas. Furthermore, from a practical perspective, I would be able to pick up the PC in question at a very good price. I'm presently in the unenviable position of having just returned penniless from a 3rd world country where I went broke and needing to get up on my feet ASAP. I've been borrowing people's PCs to do my work while I do that and hit several unexpected snags that have way-laid me, setting me even further behind the 8-ball. All temporary stuff. Once I can get a couple of Flash sites half-way built (and I'm learning AS3 on top of the other aforementioned problems), then I can sign up more clients, get my video cam, and within a short while be making tons of money like I did last time I lived here in the Virgin Islands. Mike again chimes in, stating that I should not build a PC unless I know what I'm doing. I've toyed around enough with computers to feel comfortable doing this (replacing motherboards, etc.) I'm a programmer, not new to the world of computers, although I wouldn't say I'm a hardware expert by any means. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
Body snatching...aliens did it. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:17 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:32 AM, mike wrote: > >> Remember, I'm the one that just offered advice in getting a mac. >> > > We already contacted the police to report your kidnapping. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
Tom this is beginning to sound like a broken record. Problems with Email? I got it three times. Stewart At 10:17 AM 12/4/2009, you wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:32 AM, mike wrote: Remember, I'm the one that just offered advice in getting a mac. We already contacted the police to report your kidnapping. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)
On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:32 AM, mike wrote: Remember, I'm the one that just offered advice in getting a mac. We already contacted the police to report your kidnapping. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Tony B wrote: Regarding everyone's recommendation for iMac...no. That's nice I can buy cheap s/w to edit video. What about my Adobe Suite for Windoze? Can I get the suite for $200? No. I have other s/w as well. It's not just a matter of editing video. If you can afford it, get the Sony Z5, but for $2000 you may have to > drop down to the Sony HD1000. Both are HDV, meaning they use the old > standard miniDV tapes. But really, just for web video I think you > should start with one of the cheaper cameras I mentioned earlier. > I'll see if I can get the Z5. I have a client that buys/sells LOTS of video equipment, and he owes me one. > > PS If you get into editing video, start with Sony's Vegas. Rock solid > on any cheap PC, and virtually no learning curve. > http://amzn.com/B001CPHTAQ > Thanks! V * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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If you can afford it, get the Sony Z5, but for $2000 you may have to drop down to the Sony HD1000. Both are HDV, meaning they use the old standard miniDV tapes. But really, just for web video I think you should start with one of the cheaper cameras I mentioned earlier. Although Youtube has started carrying 1080P videos, I think the high end of web video is going to be 720P for a few years yet, the limitation being broadband speeds. Depending what you're doing, a lot of what you produce will be watched at lower resolutions than that anyway, but right now all our material is uploaded at 720P. And yes, in the digital video ATSC world, you're going to have to learn the difference between 720P and 1080i/p and worse - bitrates! Way beyond the scope of this list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television PS If you get into editing video, start with Sony's Vegas. Rock solid on any cheap PC, and virtually no learning curve. http://amzn.com/B001CPHTAQ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Dec 4, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Tony B wrote: If you want a cheapo all-around camcorder right now consider the Canon HV40 HDV ($700). More tempting in the <$1000 department would be the Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD Camcorder ($360). There's a lot to be said for a tapeless workflow, not the least of which is the fragile and expensive tape heads. Agree 100%. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: You're way over my head, Tony. I was thinking about getting a camcorder for around $2K. Horrors no. That route is 5 years out of date. And the specs for web video are very different than video specs of 5 years ago. I would budget the whole shooting match at $2K. Around $500 for camera, $1000 for an iMac, and $500 for beer. The basic iMac comes with iMovie and Garageband. For web video that will suffice. If you want something more upscale get FCPExpress for $200. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Tony B wrote: > Oh, and how could I forget - the Flip camcorders will do acceptable > 720P video. $150 at Amazon now with free shipping. > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Tony B wrote: > > The XM2 (or GL2?) would not be a wise investment at this point. I know > > you'll see lots of cheap used ones for sale, but that's for two > > reasons: 1) it uses tape, and those mechanisms wear badly, and 2) it > > is SD only. Avoid it. > > > > If you want a cheapo all-around camcorder right now consider the Canon > > HV40 HDV ($700). More tempting in the <$1000 department would be the > > Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD Camcorder ($360). There's a lot to be said for > > a tapeless workflow, not the least of which is the fragile and > > expensive tape heads. > > > > However, AVCHD will be difficult to edit on the best of systems today > > without resorting to "intermediate" codecs. > You're way over my head, Tony. I was thinking about getting a camcorder for around $2K. I know nothing of this sort of thing...it appears you're a pro...so your advice would be much appreciated. I also just thought to mention that I really don't know what the future holds in store for me for shooting video. My whole emphasis has been the Web; however, my background is media, I see media evolving to the Web (consumed by the same) and want to position myself accordingly. Also, I have done and am very capable of creating TV advertising campaigns. TV obviously requires a higher standard than the Web; furthermore, I have every reason to believe that it won't be long before the Web has the same level of resolution as TV. Please advise. V * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Oh, and how could I forget - the Flip camcorders will do acceptable 720P video. $150 at Amazon now with free shipping. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Tony B wrote: > The XM2 (or GL2?) would not be a wise investment at this point. I know > you'll see lots of cheap used ones for sale, but that's for two > reasons: 1) it uses tape, and those mechanisms wear badly, and 2) it > is SD only. Avoid it. > > If you want a cheapo all-around camcorder right now consider the Canon > HV40 HDV ($700). More tempting in the <$1000 department would be the > Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD Camcorder ($360). There's a lot to be said for > a tapeless workflow, not the least of which is the fragile and > expensive tape heads. > > However, AVCHD will be difficult to edit on the best of systems today > without resorting to "intermediate" codecs. > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Victor Subervi > wrote: >> Tony B asks what kind of video I'm editing. I'll be buying a high-end video >> cam (probably a Canon XM2) to shoot for Web sites. > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
The XM2 (or GL2?) would not be a wise investment at this point. I know you'll see lots of cheap used ones for sale, but that's for two reasons: 1) it uses tape, and those mechanisms wear badly, and 2) it is SD only. Avoid it. If you want a cheapo all-around camcorder right now consider the Canon HV40 HDV ($700). More tempting in the <$1000 department would be the Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD Camcorder ($360). There's a lot to be said for a tapeless workflow, not the least of which is the fragile and expensive tape heads. However, AVCHD will be difficult to edit on the best of systems today without resorting to "intermediate" codecs. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: > Tony B asks what kind of video I'm editing. I'll be buying a high-end video > cam (probably a Canon XM2) to shoot for Web sites. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations
Mike suggested I use a Mac. Forget the Mac. I can't afford the s/w, if you read between the lines what I'm saying here. Tony B asks what kind of video I'm editing. I'll be buying a high-end video cam (probably a Canon XM2) to shoot for Web sites. db (database?) recommended I google, always an excellent suggestion, and I discovered it appears to be more a matter of memory (which is obvious) and of having a firewire, as Tony B also recommended. Betty asked if I'll be doing animation. Probably not, but I will build with that in mind. I will definitely offer animation to my clients; however, by then, I almost certainly will be back in a position to outsource overseas. She also recommends a Mac. My concern, however, once again, is the matter of buying expensive s/w (sorry) when I can get around that if I get a PC. Again, once I'm up on my feet, I will be jobbing this out overseas. Furthermore, from a practical perspective, I would be able to pick up the PC in question at a very good price. I'm presently in the unenviable position of having just returned penniless from a 3rd world country where I went broke and needing to get up on my feet ASAP. I've been borrowing people's PCs to do my work while I do that and hit several unexpected snags that have way-laid me, setting me even further behind the 8-ball. All temporary stuff. Once I can get a couple of Flash sites half-way built (and I'm learning AS3 on top of the other aforementioned problems), then I can sign up more clients, get my video cam, and within a short while be making tons of money like I did last time I lived here in the Virgin Islands. Mike again chimes in, stating that I should not build a PC unless I know what I'm doing. I've toyed around enough with computers to feel comfortable doing this (replacing motherboards, etc.) I'm a programmer, not new to the world of computers, although I wouldn't say I'm a hardware expert by any means. I look forward to your other suggestions! TIA, Victor * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a twofer update
Ok now that explains a lot...you feel that looking at apple products is like looking at porn. Maybe you can go on Dr. Drew's sex rehab show...as long as he doesn't use macs. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:42 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:27 PM, mike wrote: > >> "Apple's App Store police have again exhibited a brush with common sense, >> and allowed another iPhone app to display previously forbidden images of >> Cupertino hardware." >> > > > Just to make Mike feel all warm an fuzzy, the Sex App Shop offers porn for > the iPhone. > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356648,00.asp > > And something really obscene, an app for worshiping Ronald Reagan. > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/12/03/MNPU1ATSB9.DTL > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] App Store Changing its Ways
Steve Jobs intervenes, approves Knocking streaming video app http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/12/steve-jobs-intervenes-approves-knocking-streaming-video-app.ars "The approval is significant for several reasons. It's the first app with verified use of private APIs that Apple has approved for sale. It's also the first app approved to allow live video streaming. Finally, it's a concrete sign that Apple is indeed working to address developer concerns—though persuading Steve Jobs to personally approve an app is probably not going to become an official policy." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a twofer update
On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:27 PM, mike wrote: "Apple's App Store police have again exhibited a brush with common sense, and allowed another iPhone app to display previously forbidden images of Cupertino hardware." Just to make Mike feel all warm an fuzzy, the Sex App Shop offers porn for the iPhone. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356648,00.asp And something really obscene, an app for worshiping Ronald Reagan. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/12/03/MNPU1ATSB9.DTL * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
