Re: [CGUYS] Windows Mail and Yahoo

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Rosenberg, Alan [USA] <
rosenberg_a...@bah.com> wrote:

> Running Vista HP with Windows Mail, had a situation where my message to a
> friend with a Yahoo domain email address was never delivered, and a message
> from him to me (requested by phone) also never arrived. I've used Verizon as
> my mail server for over a year with this setup, and have had no problems
> until this one.
>
> Anyone aware of issues between Windows Mail and Yahoo as an email provider?
>
>
Check to see if it is accessible in the web mail at VZ.  It may have been
trapped in a spam filter somewhere along the way.   If it failed to reach
you it would have to been at the server level.  Yahoo! may have gotten
flagged as a spam source.

It could be as simple as an erroneous email address on the part of you or
your correspondent.

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[CGUYS] Server restrictions

2009-12-05 Thread Eric S. Sande

Formerly I was happy to have access over a different network that didn't
relate to my primary ISP.  This would be in keeping with my belt and 
suspenders approach to most technology.  I reasoned that a backup

strategy would be preferred in the event, etc.

So I have a dialup account which I have maintained religiously for many
years.  In fact I was among the first 1000 subscribers to what was then
erols.com.  The TV store that became an ISP and then got bought out
by what is now RCN.  With some changes along the way.

I think PEPCO was involved at some point.

Anyway, my question is why do I not own the network connection if I pay for 
it.  I pay to access RCN and I pay to access VZ.


I'm sorry if this looks like a whine, but it was transparent up until 
recently.  I could access RCN servers over a VZ connection with no problem.


Now that appears to not be an option.

I absolutely understand network diversity, I'm a professional manager or 
supposedly so at this.  But my perspective is necessarily limited by what I 
do and where I work.


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Re: [CGUYS] christmas lights

2009-12-05 Thread John DeCarlo
I know you can load multiple addresses and have it plot the route.  Then you
can change the order yourself to optimize.

You may not know that determining the best route takes exponential time to
work out.  Check out the Traveling Salesman problem in Wikipedia or Google.


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 8:42 PM, mike  wrote:

> OK...silly holiday question.
>
> If I have a list of addresses, is there a way to load them into google maps
> and have it tell me the best route?
>
> Best scenario I can load this on google maps on my phone..
>
> Any ideas appreciated.
>


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Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Recommendations

2009-12-05 Thread rocky lee
> 
> Date:    Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:03:04 -0500
> From:    b_s-wilk 
> Subject: Re: Hardware Reccomendations
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:55 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
> >> Most pros use tape.
> > 
> > Probably true, because most of them bought their gear
> years ago. 
> 
> Nope. New camcorders have tape. SD cards are good too, but
> easy to lose, 
> and expensive compared to tape. Some have both tape and SD.
> Direct to 
> DVD is stupid [Sony again?], and hard drives are too
> limited.
> 

If you are talking about shooting on video, some of
those arguments might be valid, High def on a Red or P2 cards on a Panasonic 
however are competing with Film budgets.

If time is money, then the fact that you can import footage 
in faster than real time is gold. If the premise is that there is enough 
footage to require more than a couple of tapes, then that becomes hours to 
ingest the footage into the editing system.

The weak part  of the tapeless system is that leaves open how to archive the 
footage. You transfer the footage from the memory cards to the hard drive, but 
then what? The memory cards get wiped and reused but then that leaves the 
footage... on a hard drive? The memory cards are better for workflow, but at 
some point I would want the footage stored on tape for long term.

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[CGUYS] christmas lights

2009-12-05 Thread mike
OK...silly holiday question.

If I have a list of addresses, is there a way to load them into google maps
and have it tell me the best route?

Best scenario I can load this on google maps on my phone..

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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> Who would you rather have tracking every IP address you visit?  OpenDNS?
>  Google?
>
> Certainly not your ISP, they are much lower on anyone's list.


> When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that "free" modified
> "Google" as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a
> Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on the Net.
>

Fred, good one.  I laughed pretty hard about this.  As if there could ever
be a Democratic conspiracy about *anything* - first they would have to work
together on something.

Remember, you can always ask the ISPs, since they already provide all kinds
of things to government and business.

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Re: [CGUYS] silly Recommendations

2009-12-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think most electronic studios have gone to HD/Computer storage away 
from tape.


Tape is a notoriously fickle and unreliable medium for storage.

TV studios use mostly HD storage for their studios, along with radio stations.

Radio is almost totally Computer driven these days.  They can sit at 
a console and program their whole day including commercials etc.


(I have been at a studio for one of my club activities when we 
actually read ads on the radio.  Cramps their whole day.)


Stewart

At 06:10 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote:

You think a $4000 HD video recorder is an appropriate investment for
entry into video production???

Note that the reason most shooters still prefer tape is because it's a
good *archival* storage format. Don't bother sitting around comparing
the cost of *temporary* storage like flash or HDDs or SSDs with tape.
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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread Fred Holmes
How does one tell/notice that that is happening?  Maybe mine does it too, or 
does it only happen on Mac USB ports?  I haven't read the manual.

I have both an Olympus FE-5010 and a FE-370.

In practice, when I connect my camera to my computer, I simply transfer all the 
pictures from the camera to the computer as a batch, disconnect/shut off the 
camera, and view the files on the computer using one of several photo 
viewers/editors.  So the battery drain on the camera is negligible.

Fred Holmes

At 11:26 AM 12/5/2009, tjpa wrote:
>When I connect my Olympus digital to my Mac the camera powers itself  
>from the USB. The camera's automatic power down function gets  
>automatically disabled. Sweet.


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Re: [CGUYS] silly Recommendations

2009-12-05 Thread mike
A lot of web producers do archive on HD, new things are often hard for some
to change to.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> You think a $4000 HD video recorder is an appropriate investment for
> entry into video production???
>
> Note that the reason most shooters still prefer tape is because it's a
> good *archival* storage format. Don't bother sitting around comparing
> the cost of *temporary* storage like flash or HDDs or SSDs with tape.
> It's apples and oranges.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
>  wrote:
> >> I have no experience with this but I heard about it on MacBreak Weekly.
>  <
> > http://www.aja.com/products/ki-pro/>  It is essentially a box for
> directly
> > acquiring video to a hard drive.  It saves the transfer time and gets
> full
> > uncompressed 1080p where SD cards compress.  It's expensive, new and hard
> to
> > get but seems like it may be an entry point for people just getting
> started.
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread Fred Holmes
That's implied in the powers enumerated in the health care bill.  They wouldn't 
be explicit about it.

At 11:19 AM 12/5/2009, tjpa wrote:
>Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the  
>Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything  
>anyone did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who  
>realize that this was a waste of time and money we have all these  
>conspiracies coming out of the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin  
>tell you that your Internet searches were being used to build a death- 
>panel dossier about you?


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Re: [CGUYS] Apple rejects and why

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Depends on the front.  HTC has put a lot of work into it's SenseUI, I use it
on the android phone I have and there is a version for windows phones.  On
WM it only goes so deep, so eventually you end up back at WM and some of the
screens in that OS haven't been changed for years.  Suddenly you are staring
at a screen that looks like WM 4.  On android it makes a big difference too,
it's very clean and easy to configure.  My phone has seven home screens
which can be customized in almost any way from full screen widgets to 1/8
sized screen widgets showing almost any kind of info, launching apps etc.
This IMO is another advantage over iphone which can show almost no info
without actually opening apps.

Verizon just got a version of the HTC hero on it's network, the eris, it's
like 100 bux and is a good strong phone.  Basically the same phone I have.
Verizon left that phone alone, I'm not sure if they disabled GPS like they
have in the past.  One of the reasons I didn't go with Verizon is the level
of control they pound into that phone, I've got a GPS chip, let me use it
without having to pay even MORE.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mike  wrote:
>
> > And anyone...like me who has used a WM phone knows the load of bull that
> > part is.  MS is behind, way, wayWAY behind the mobile game.  Their
> > newest isn't any different than the last 4 years.  The only thing saving
> MS
> > at this point is being deeply in the market and companies like HTC
> building
> > front ends for them.
> >
> >
> > Are second party front ends a good thing?  Verizon seems to remove my
> favorite features that are on every other version of comparable phones from
> the same source.  The only reason I stick with them is better coverage.
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Re: [CGUYS] a twofer update

2009-12-05 Thread mike
That was the problem...they reject the use of images they gave the
developers.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> Apparently the Apple product images got rejected as inappropriate content.
> I wonder what is inappropriate about the imagery of old macs- erotic or
> obscenity is out?  Apple should be providing this imagery themselves in the
> first place unless they aren't standing behind their own history.  Even the
> road apples.
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[CGUYS] silly Recommendations

2009-12-05 Thread Tony B
You think a $4000 HD video recorder is an appropriate investment for
entry into video production???

Note that the reason most shooters still prefer tape is because it's a
good *archival* storage format. Don't bother sitting around comparing
the cost of *temporary* storage like flash or HDDs or SSDs with tape.
It's apples and oranges.


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
 wrote:
>> I have no experience with this but I heard about it on MacBreak Weekly.  <
> http://www.aja.com/products/ki-pro/>  It is essentially a box for directly
> acquiring video to a hard drive.  It saves the transfer time and gets full
> uncompressed 1080p where SD cards compress.  It's expensive, new and hard to
> get but seems like it may be an entry point for people just getting started.


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Re: [CGUYS] Critical battery warning for Windows XP

2009-12-05 Thread Tony B
It may have to do with a UPS you have/had installed. You should be
able to turn it off in Control Panel>Power settings.


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Robert Carroll
 wrote:
> This happened just now, and has happened a few times before.  Immediately
> after switching profiles on my DESKTOP computer using Windows XP Pro, I get
> a balloon with a critical battery warning saying that I must soon switch to
> to electrical power.  There is no power battery in my desktop, and it is
> connected at all times to the electrical outlet.  Naturally, I have Googled
> the message and see only links for laptops.
>
> Does this warning pertain to some actual battery in my desktop PC, or is it
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Re: [CGUYS] a twofer update

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 6:37 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
Apparently the Apple product images got rejected as inappropriate  
content.
I wonder what is inappropriate about the imagery of old macs- erotic  
or
obscenity is out?  Apple should be providing this imagery themselves  
in the
first place unless they aren't standing behind their own history.   
Even the

road apples.


That got reversed and the app is now in the store.

Apple's rule was too broad. I think that Apple was aiming to prohibit  
apps that simulated aspects of the interface while actually doing  
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[CGUYS] Critical battery warning for Windows XP

2009-12-05 Thread Robert Carroll
This happened just now, and has happened a few times before.  
Immediately after switching profiles on my DESKTOP computer using 
Windows XP Pro, I get a balloon with a critical battery warning saying 
that I must soon switch to to electrical power.  There is no power 
battery in my desktop, and it is connected at all times to the 
electrical outlet.  Naturally, I have Googled the message and see only 
links for laptops.


Does this warning pertain to some actual battery in my desktop PC, or is 
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Re: [CGUYS] a twofer update

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Apparently the Apple product images got rejected as inappropriate content.
I wonder what is inappropriate about the imagery of old macs- erotic or
obscenity is out?  Apple should be providing this imagery themselves in the
first place unless they aren't standing behind their own history.  Even the
road apples.


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Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
>
>> Actually the cards are relatively cheap and have as long a life as the
>> tapes.
>>
>
> I was taught to always use a new tape for every shoot. Every pass through
> the recorder increased the probability of drop outs. Never want to risk
> that.
>
> Raw video is aprox 12GB per hour and 1GB of card storage is aprox $1. So
> $12 per hour. That is close what an hour of tape costs. I have no problem
> reusing the card storage again and again. So I think the card wins the
> second time I use it.
>
> If you use your tapes over and over I think you are a putz not a pro.
>
> I have no experience with this but I heard about it on MacBreak Weekly.  <
http://www.aja.com/products/ki-pro/>  It is essentially a box for directly
acquiring video to a hard drive.  It saves the transfer time and gets full
uncompressed 1080p where SD cards compress.  It's expensive, new and hard to
get but seems like it may be an entry point for people just getting started.

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple rejects and why

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mike  wrote:

> And anyone...like me who has used a WM phone knows the load of bull that
> part is.  MS is behind, way, wayWAY behind the mobile game.  Their
> newest isn't any different than the last 4 years.  The only thing saving MS
> at this point is being deeply in the market and companies like HTC building
> front ends for them.
>
>
> Are second party front ends a good thing?  Verizon seems to remove my
favorite features that are on every other version of comparable phones from
the same source.  The only reason I stick with them is better coverage.

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple rejects and why

2009-12-05 Thread mike
And anyone...like me who has used a WM phone knows the load of bull that
part is.  MS is behind, way, wayWAY behind the mobile game.  Their
newest isn't any different than the last 4 years.  The only thing saving MS
at this point is being deeply in the market and companies like HTC building
front ends for them.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, tjpa  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> M$ has only 800 apps in its equivalent of the App Store and is quoted
> saying this is because they are "emphasizing quality."
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple rejects and why

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa
Worth reading: NYT has a long analytical story about the App Store and  
Apple's competitors...


App Store Is a Game Changer for Apple and Cellphone Industry
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/technology/06apps.html


"Still, the App Store is markedly better than the alternative, says  
Peter Farago, a marketing executive at Flurry, a mobile analytics  
company in San Francisco. Gone are the days when mobile developers had  
to negotiate with major telecommunications companies if they had any  
hopes of publishing their applications on a mobile phone."
“It took six to nine months to build a relationship with a carrier,  
maybe a quarter-million to get the infrastructure built, and the  
company took 50 percent or more from each dollar,” Mr. Farago says, a  
process that limited access to mobile platforms. “Apple has helped  
create a much healthier middle class of developers and expanded the  
pie for everyone.”




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Re: [CGUYS] Test, sorry

2009-12-05 Thread Eric S. Sande

What action should we take if it *doesn't* go through?


Uh, nothing in either case.  Anyway, I think it works now, thanks.

 



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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread mike
I think the memory makers were faster on the draw with this one...but yes
there are wifi enabled cams

I posted a link on another thread about sugarsync.  This too is handy with
phones as you can auto sync between cloud and your camera phone pictures.
It will do it automagically and where ever you are, not just in bluetooth
range of your computer.  Take a couple shots while you are out and
about...get home, leave your phone in your pocket and the pics have already
been sync'd a folder.  Handy.

What happens if the wifi breaks on your camera?  Will it still take
pictures?  At least this gives choice, imagine your wifi on the cam
breaking, you can replace it easy by just buying a wifi enabled sd card.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> I use Bluetooth to transfer photos from my phone--fast, easy, at least for
> a 2 mpx camera phone, maybe not for 10 mpx camera or for video. Cell phone
> video transfers fast enough via BT, but they're only a minute or two long.
>
> Aren't there Bluetooth or WiFi enabled cameras? It makes so much more sense
> to have the wireless capability in the camera instead of the card. Is it
> really that complicated to remove the card and put it in a card reader or
> risk breaking your camera's USB/FW port with a cable? I'd rather remove the
> card [easy] than buy a dual card.
>
> What happens to the card when the WiFi breaks? Does it still hold data?
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Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-05 Thread mike
And he's got some weird pseudo variety politico show on FOX.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:53 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Jordan  wrote:
>
> > They are all too loony for my tastes, but if everything is relative Huck
> > seemed kind of down to earth compared to the planet that Sara and Beck
> seem
> > to be on. But it sounds like you know more about Huckabee than I would
> ever
> > want to.
> > A few years ago could you have imagined a Republican party where Newt was
> > just middle of the road?
> >
> > Huck is probably doomed.  He pardoned the guy that shot & killed four
> cops
> in a coffee shop in the Northwest last week.
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
This boys and girls is what is called a 'hypocrite'.  To note, yes they were
defending the previous admins actions, with newly appointed lawyers for the
new admin.  Using the same argument.  But to Tom this is ok because O has a
big D after his name therefore the exact same actions are 'good' that are
'evil' under anyone with an 'R' next to their name.  This is also known as
being 'intellectually dishonest', say it with me...

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush
>>
>
> If this case was being tried in April then it would have been defending
> actions of the previous administration and probably being defended by a
> legal team assembled by the previous administration.
>
> How about some recent news? Not letting BHO's social secretary testify to
> Congress does not count.
>
> How about...
> • November 05, 2009 Two Battles Won: PATRIOT Reform AND State Secrets
> Reform Bills Pass House Committee
>
> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/battle-won-not-war-patriot-reform-bill-passes-out-
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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread b_s-wilk
I use Bluetooth to transfer photos from my phone--fast, easy, at least 
for a 2 mpx camera phone, maybe not for 10 mpx camera or for video. Cell 
phone video transfers fast enough via BT, but they're only a minute or 
two long.


Aren't there Bluetooth or WiFi enabled cameras? It makes so much more 
sense to have the wireless capability in the camera instead of the card. 
Is it really that complicated to remove the card and put it in a card 
reader or risk breaking your camera's USB/FW port with a cable? I'd 
rather remove the card [easy] than buy a dual card.


What happens to the card when the WiFi breaks? Does it still hold data?


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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread Stephen Brownfield

Judy,
   The cards I saw were primarily for Palm devices and are much 
like the old wireless PC cards that that you would slide into the side 
of your laptop to connect it to a wireless network.  It was not used for 
storage at all, just transferring data wirelessly.
These WiFi-enabled SD memory card not only transfer data 
wirelessly, but can also store data.



Steve



Judy Cosler wrote:

what's the difference, Steve?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Brownfield
wrote:

  

I've seen WiFi SD cards before, but not WiFi-enabled SD memory card.





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Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Jordan  wrote:

> They are all too loony for my tastes, but if everything is relative Huck
> seemed kind of down to earth compared to the planet that Sara and Beck seem
> to be on. But it sounds like you know more about Huckabee than I would ever
> want to.
> A few years ago could you have imagined a Republican party where Newt was
> just middle of the road?
>
> Huck is probably doomed.  He pardoned the guy that shot & killed four cops
in a coffee shop in the Northwest last week.

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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:07 PM, mike wrote:

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush


If this case was being tried in April then it would have been  
defending actions of the previous administration and probably being  
defended by a legal team assembled by the previous administration.


How about some recent news? Not letting BHO's social secretary testify  
to Congress does not count.


How about...
• November 05, 2009 Two Battles Won: PATRIOT Reform AND State Secrets  
Reform Bills Pass House Committee

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/battle-won-not-war-patriot-reform-bill-passes-out-


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Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Actually the cards are relatively cheap and have as long a life as  
the tapes.


I was taught to always use a new tape for every shoot. Every pass  
through the recorder increased the probability of drop outs. Never  
want to risk that.


Raw video is aprox 12GB per hour and 1GB of card storage is aprox $1.  
So $12 per hour. That is close what an hour of tape costs. I have no  
problem reusing the card storage again and again. So I think the card  
wins the second time I use it.


If you use your tapes over and over I think you are a putz not a pro.


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Don't believe what?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

It's not about 'believing' it's about not being close minded.  Bush and
Obama are more alike than anyone on either side care to admit.  All O has
done is remove the brake pedal completely.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:
>
>> Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?
>>
>
> What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no links to
> Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush. Fox, Moonies, or the WSJ please.
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Re: [CGUYS] Test, sorry

2009-12-05 Thread Reid Katan

Quoting "Eric S. Sande" :


Trying to see if I can get out over this SMPT server.  RCN apparently
doesn't want me to use their servers over a VZ connection.

Disregard if this goes through.


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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:36 AM, mike  wrote:

> Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?  You whined about Bush
> and
> in your hypocrisy that's stopped as soon as your guy took over.
>
> Is it any coincidence that Oprah announces she is quitting after she
interviews another infamous quitter Sarah Palin?  I think not.
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-05 Thread mike
For businesses with apps they've paid tens of thousands of dollars for that
run on xp.  Yes, bad the the software has not been updated timely, but
reality for some businesses.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:43 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>
>> Amazing. Leopard costs more now than when it was released!
>>
>
> The value of a quality product grows with age.
>
> What do old copies of Vista go for?
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:36 AM, mike wrote:

Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?


What did Oprah do? I don't believe it. References please? And no links  
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:57 PM, John H. Davis wrote:
Will a "Full" version  upgrade a 10.39 or do I have to do a clean  
install?


"Full" means that it has not been crippled to work with only certain  
hardware. OS X installers offer a full range of upgrade options. In  
fact the newest Snow Leopard has removed clean install from the  
standard set of options. I guess to many users accidently wiped their  
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Amazing. Leopard costs more now than when it was released!


The value of a quality product grows with age.

What do old copies of Vista go for?

I just noticed that Dell still offers W7 downgrade to XP as an option  
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS upgrade

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote:
Where you can find yourself buying home-made copies, complete with  
cover art on the disc. That's what I encountered when buying 10.4 on  
eBay. I had to install a DVD burner on my G4 in order to read the  
damned thing (the regular DVD reader wouldn't handle a home-burnt  
DVD).


I have had very little trouble with eBay purchases. The problems I did  
have were caused by the seller's lack of knowledge and I had no  
trouble getting my money back. Most people are terribly honest.


With all the Bush-era spying apparatus still in place one would hope  
that the police could at least use it to track down the persistent  
crooks. They even have a good excuse to use it since recent Internet  
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Where are you now that the big O is expanding it?  You whined about Bush and
in your hypocrisy that's stopped as soon as your guy took over.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:19 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:
>
>> When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that "free" modified
>> "Google" as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a
>> Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on the Net.
>>
>
> Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the
> Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything anyone
> did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who realize that this
> was a waste of time and money we have all these conspiracies coming out of
> the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin tell you that your Internet
> searches were being used to build a death-panel dossier about you?
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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:08 AM, mike wrote:
They've been around a little while...seems like one more thing to  
drain the
batteries doing something that isn't taking pictures.  I still stand  
by
using a small reader to plug just the card into a computer.  Moving  
files

off a camera in almost any fashion drains that battery fast.


OMG, we agree twice in the same week!

When I connect my Olympus digital to my Mac the camera powers itself  
from the USB. The camera's automatic power down function gets  
automatically disabled. Sweet.


My son's HP digital will power down while I'm trying to transfer files  
causing the Mac to warn me that a volume has been improperly removed.  
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[CGUYS] Slow DNS [Was: Google free DNS]

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tony B wrote:

I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now
offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)!


Recently I'm experimenting with various domain resolution services  
because I have noticed a dramatic DNS lookup slowdown. When I click on  
a link my browser often pauses for several seconds with "Waiting  
for...". Web pages that have lots of links to external sites will  
cycle through several "Waiting for" messages leaving me pounding my  
desk. Does anyone have any ideas about this?



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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Fred Holmes wrote:
When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that "free"  
modified "Google" as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.   
Google is a Democrat conspiracy to track everything anyone does on  
the Net.


Where were all these far-right paranoiac conspiracy theories when the  
Bushies were building their vast infrastructure to track everything  
anyone did on the Net? Now that smarter minds are in charge who  
realize that this was a waste of time and money we have all these  
conspiracies coming out of the woodwork. Very strange. Did Sarah Palin  
tell you that your Internet searches were being used to build a death- 
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Tony B wrote:

I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now
offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)!


DynDNS started offering this recently too.

I tried and stopped using DynDNS because I thought they were too  
aggressive about blocking sites. Websites would display with holes  
where there should have been ads.


It will be interesting to see what kind of a useful twist Google will  
add to premium DNS service.



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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread mike
They've been around a little while...seems like one more thing to drain the
batteries doing something that isn't taking pictures.  I still stand by
using a small reader to plug just the card into a computer.  Moving files
off a camera in almost any fashion drains that battery fast.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Brownfield
wrote:

> I've seen WiFi SD cards before, but not WiFi-enabled SD memory card.
>
>
>
>
> Chris Dunford wrote:
>
>> Well, this is something I hadn't seen before:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thenerds.net/EYE_FI.Eye_Fi_Home_Wireless_2_GB_Secure_Digital_SD_Card.EYEFI2HM.html
>>
>> Basically, it's a WiFi-enabled SD memory card. You stick it in your camera
>> or whatever and it provides network connectivity. In essence, the camera
>> gets networked.
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience with something like this?
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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread Judy Cosler
what's the difference, Steve?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Stephen Brownfield
wrote:

> I've seen WiFi SD cards before, but not WiFi-enabled SD memory card.
>
>
>
>
> Chris Dunford wrote:
>
>> Well, this is something I hadn't seen before:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thenerds.net/EYE_FI.Eye_Fi_Home_Wireless_2_GB_Secure_Digital_SD_Card.EYEFI2HM.html
>>
>> Basically, it's a WiFi-enabled SD memory card. You stick it in your camera
>> or whatever and it provides network connectivity. In essence, the camera
>> gets networked.
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience with something like this?
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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread Stephen Brownfield

I've seen WiFi SD cards before, but not WiFi-enabled SD memory card.



Chris Dunford wrote:

Well, this is something I hadn't seen before:

http://www.thenerds.net/EYE_FI.Eye_Fi_Home_Wireless_2_GB_Secure_Digital_SD_Card.EYEFI2HM.html

Basically, it's a WiFi-enabled SD memory card. You stick it in your camera or 
whatever and it provides network connectivity. In essence, the camera gets 
networked.

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Re: [CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread tjpa

On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Basically, it's a WiFi-enabled SD memory card. You stick it in your  
camera or whatever and it provides network connectivity. In essence,  
the camera gets networked.


I tried out a still camera with built-in WiFi that a client had  
bought. It worked, but was quite slow. I think I would use it only  
when there was no other alternative.


File sizes for video are going to be much larger. Moving them a LAN  
speeds is going to be painful.



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Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-05 Thread mike
Obviously being 'up to the task' is not a concern for most voters.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:31 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
>  wrote:
>
> > Oh I am certain Palin will run, but I do not think she is quite up to the
> > task.
>
>   It really doesn't matter of she is up the task or not.  That does
> not seem to be of concern to most who support, love or admire her.
> What?  Are you saying that she has ugly legs or something?
>
>  In fact, her lack of acumen, expertise and knowledge is what is most
> appealing to her followers.  Being no smarter or knowledgeable than
> her fan base is what has created that fan base.  What she lacks is
> perceived as the essence of non-elitist.  What she lacks does not
> threaten or intimidate Joe Six-Pack and his gun totin' buddies and
> their wimmen.  She will expand her base and generate votes through
> Twitter because 140 character bursts is about all that she and all too
> many of her fans can wrap their heads around.
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Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS

2009-12-05 Thread Fred Holmes
Who would you rather have tracking every IP address you visit?  OpenDNS?  
Google?

There are no secrets in your Internet activity (without using some serious 
anonymity techniques, that most people won't or can't).

When I first read the subject line, I was hoping that "free" modified "Google" 
as in Google doesn't have its hooks into this.  Google is a Democrat conspiracy 
to track everything anyone does on the Net.

Fred Holmes

At 12:01 AM 12/5/2009, Tony B wrote:
>I've used OpenDNS for so long I almost missed this. But Google now
>offers a free DNS that's much easier to remember (8.8.8.8., 8.8.4.4)!
>http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
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>Quick - somebody else try it first!


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[CGUYS] WiFi SD cards

2009-12-05 Thread Chris Dunford
Well, this is something I hadn't seen before:

http://www.thenerds.net/EYE_FI.Eye_Fi_Home_Wireless_2_GB_Secure_Digital_SD_Card.EYEFI2HM.html

Basically, it's a WiFi-enabled SD memory card. You stick it in your camera or 
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Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-05 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
 wrote:

> Oh I am certain Palin will run, but I do not think she is quite up to the
> task.

  It really doesn't matter of she is up the task or not.  That does
not seem to be of concern to most who support, love or admire her.
What?  Are you saying that she has ugly legs or something?

  In fact, her lack of acumen, expertise and knowledge is what is most
appealing to her followers.  Being no smarter or knowledgeable than
her fan base is what has created that fan base.  What she lacks is
perceived as the essence of non-elitist.  What she lacks does not
threaten or intimidate Joe Six-Pack and his gun totin' buddies and
their wimmen.  She will expand her base and generate votes through
Twitter because 140 character bursts is about all that she and all too
many of her fans can wrap their heads around.

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Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-05 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:02 PM, mike  wrote:

> I seem to remember a lot of us caring when enron was around the white house
> during bush, shouldn't we care when GE is doing the same?

  Absolutely!


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Re: [CGUYS] Sprint fed customer GPS data to cops over 8 million times

2009-12-05 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2009/12/sprint-fed-customer-gps-data-to-leos-over-8-million-times.ars
>
> "Sprint fed customer GPS data to cops over 8 million times
>
> "A blogger has released audio of Sprint's Electronic Surveillance Manager 
> describing the carrier's cooperation with law enforcement. Among the 
> revelations are that Sprint has so far filled over 8 million requests from 
> LEOs for customer GPS data."
>
>
> Forgive me if this has already been posted.  Haven't been keeping up with 
> traffic here.

  This, to my knowledge, has not been posted here previously, and
thank you for doing so.  However, this is, in general terms, very old
news.  So old in fact that it is really hardly news anymore at all.
The reality is that just about any egregious abuse that can be
conjured up by communications providers and government is what will be
perpetrated upon the public.  Its been widely done and publicized
previously in differing flavors.  Much of the public became outraged,
government looked into it, decided that they liked it very much and
"pardoned" the industry for their transgressions.  Those previous
"pardons" served to tell the comm industries that just about anything
along these lines that they do, as long as they are in concert with
government, and even if not legal, are acceptable and desirable.

  Are we not in the Information Age?  Does anyone not understand the
meaning of that term?  Do we not openly refer to our current decade in
that manner?  Additionally, we are also in a National Security State,
replete with our own Department of Homeland Security.  Are we not
engaged in an unending war that was identified as such by the
administration that launched it?  How much more evidence of our
situation is required for folks to either sheepishly accept our status
or to try to do something about it?

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[CGUYS] Test, sorry

2009-12-05 Thread Eric S. Sande
Trying to see if I can get out over this SMPT server.  RCN apparently 
doesn't want me to use their servers over a VZ connection.


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