Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I have to ditto Tom here. I used to have every TV in the house on all day. Now there is just one on for 'noise' for my parrots. I have very few TV shows I bother to watch. Potentially giving new life to your TV... I just set up my Tivo and noticed it offers a list of video podcasts for download. It also has an option that will accept a URL for downloading, something I will need to experiment with. It would be nice if it had a Web browser. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Two free applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and another program that costs only $4.99, make it possible to listen to live radio on the iPhone from anywhere, including a moving car... No, radio (and the NAB) will kill radio. Who cares what you can listen to it on, the product is just as god-awful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I will check, as I recall, there is no install charge. on Tuesday 07/29/2008 Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote I get my news from the Post (paper) and from NPR. I don't listen much to commercial radio, except the occasional baseball game. I don't watch TV at all. I get mostly tech news from the web. I have an iPod, but have never gotten news from it (my iPod is before the Touch model). News paper circulation shrinks every year. If radio shrinks too, where will you all get your news? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Two free applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and another program that costs only $4.99, make it possible to listen to live radio on the iPhone from anywhere, including a moving car... No, radio (and the NAB) will kill radio. Who cares what you can listen to it on, the product is just as god-awful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Sorry for the incorrect posting. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I have an iPod, but have never gotten news from it (my iPod is before the Touch model). News paper circulation shrinks every year. If radio shrinks too, where will you all get your news? There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some local stations. iTunes keeps filling up with more and more good stuff. I especially like APM's Future Tense. These are short, 5-minute programs that often inform me of tech events that are important but not covered elsewhere, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! P.S. I don't do smileys. Smileys are depressing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! I thought the squirting commment was fairly droll for Tom. It made me chuckle. Give credit where credit is due! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) __ Michel David Lowe -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:49 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio? But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! P.S. I don't do smileys. Smileys are depressing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
It all depends. In the latest release of Eudora actually done by Eudora, they turn into icons. The Icons actually let you know there is something else there. Otherwise I have a hard time deciphering all the punctuation marks, and it reminds me of reading Hebrew! Stewart At 10:23 AM 7/29/2008, you wrote: Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) __ Michel David Lowe Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
At 11:23 AM -0400 7/29/08, Michel Lowe wrote: Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) Since getting the joke is in the eye of the beholder, and not guaranteed, that's why smileys (or emoticons) were invented in the first place. One's innocent little jibe might be misinterpreted by a reader who had not switched to decaf that day. ;-) I, for one, don't find them insulting. I had never thought of them that way until you just brought it up... paranoia hmm, what did they really mean by that??? /paranoia :-) -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. Mike On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! I thought the squirting commment was fairly droll for Tom. It made me chuckle. Give credit where credit is due! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In traditional print, you'd have lots and lots of written words to realize this. In realspace, you can judge the body language of the person making the statement. In brief email exchanges, sometimes you need substitutes for those cues - and thats the purpose of the smiley. I don't think the assumption is that the person won't get the joke... its to make sure that people realize it _is_ a joke. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:23:38AM -0400, Michel Lowe wrote: Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) __ Michel David Lowe -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:49 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio? But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? I think not! P.S. I don't do smileys. Smileys are depressing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. Should it be my problem that some folks have no sense of humor? Should we all be required to dial down to low level gloom to accomodate the most morose among us? Ain't nothing wrong with my sensayuma. I saw some true-crime show the other night about a guy who tried to hire a hit man to rub out his inconvenient wife. When the cops confronted him with a surveillance tape, he said, Hey, it was a joke! I was only joking! Reminds me of your shots that are now supposed to be funny... Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs, and only busboys and their ilk use Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In traditional print, you'd have lots and lots of written words to realize this. In realspace, you can judge the body language of the person making the statement. In brief email exchanges, sometimes you need substitutes for those cues - and thats the purpose of the smiley. I don't think the assumption is that the person won't get the joke... its to make sure that people realize it _is_ a joke. Yes, I think this is exactly right. Email, forums, listserv posts, IMs, and the like lack the cues and/or the space to ensure that the reader knows you're joking. I resisted emoticons for many years before I came (somewhat reluctantly) to this conclusion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I use both WPC and Mac. I am neither. Your comment shows minimal attention, or is just gratuitous. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Should we be denied a good laugh at the folly of the ultra rich? Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs, and only busboys and their ilk use Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that the glitterati use Macs, and only busboys and their ilk use Windows. But I was referring to those who *make* Windows not those who *use* Windows. Note that those who make Windows made themselves fantastically rich by over charging their customers (viz. DOJ vs. MS) and forcing them into careers as pearl diversÝ. Those who make Macs became only moderately rich and empowered their customers to become moderately well off too. Ý pearl diver. Slang. Person who washes the dishes at a restaurant. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Okay I regret the remark because it sucked the air out of the discussion of a really interesting and important topic. This week we have Serious and XM merging because the market for their services was not as large as they expected. When they first arrived on the scene I said (on air) that I wouldn't invest any $ there. The iPod was going to make a big dent in their customer base. Now we have the the iPod Touch and the iPhones able to provide a mobile connection to the 'net. This is a delivery method that nobody was anticipating. It could change the whole ball game not just for satellite broadcasters, but for conventional broadcasters too. This is a big deal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Yes and no. Where I think the Satellite radios have it over Internet radio is sports. The way sports events are licensed you will not find them on conventional internet radio. I am a big Nascar fan and would like one of the satellite radios to catch races when in the car. (There is no station that has bought into the radio broadcasts locally) Plus there are a few other venues which I do not listen too to make a difference. NPR has a good presence on satellite radio also. However again down here coverage is spotty. Yes that is where an Internet radio again can offer good alternative but it depends on coverage once more. There is too little coverage in some parts of the country for it to be a killer, instead it just dies because of lack of support. However satellite because of its universal coverage is a big plus. So for you on the east coast and in the city it might be the radio killer, but for us in the rest of the US satellite will still win hands down. (just for the record I do not have a satellite radio, I have been waiting for this deal to happen and them to consolidate equipment before I take the plunge) Stewart At 01:20 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote: Okay I regret the remark because it sucked the air out of the discussion of a really interesting and important topic. This week we have Serious and XM merging because the market for their services was not as large as they expected. When they first arrived on the scene I said (on air) that I wouldn't invest any $ there. The iPod was going to make a big dent in their customer base. Now we have the the iPod Touch and the iPhones able to provide a mobile connection to the 'net. This is a delivery method that nobody was anticipating. It could change the whole ball game not just for satellite broadcasters, but for conventional broadcasters too. This is a big deal. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The problem is that often there just isn't enough context to realize that the person is trying to be humorous/ironic/sarcastic. In Yes, I think this is exactly right. Email, forums, listserv posts, IMs, and the like lack the cues and/or the space to ensure that the reader knows you're joking. I resisted emoticons for many years before I came (somewhat reluctantly) to this conclusion. I mostly resisted emoticons because of the need to memorize them and their interpretations. So for years I did things like this: wink, grin, rant mode onrant mode off. I still prefer that approach, but no one likes to type any more. Agree that icons make it a little easier, but they go overboard, too - what does the smiley face with a hat on at a rakish angle mean about the text just preceeding it? angry old curmudgeon mode off -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That's what I was thinking, more creative then the usuall MS comment...I had to laugh too. OK, yeah, maybe it was marginally less annoying than the usual comments. But I'm just so tired of it, y'know? OMG, someone is annoyed!! I suggest you just ignore anything that annoys you so - you will be much better off. BTW, gratuitous insult is an oxymoron when applied to Microsoft. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:38:09PM -0400, John DeCarlo wrote: Agree that icons make it a little easier, but they go overboard, too - what does the smiley face with a hat on at a rakish angle mean about the text just preceeding it? That the author is trying, and failing, to be cute. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
OMG, someone is annoyed!! Quick.. Go feed the fishes! Go feed the fishes! Inhale, exhale. Repeat. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Will the iPhone kill radio? Not for awhile yet--for lots of reasons. You can get a really groovy short-wave set that will fit in a purse or the small zipper compartment of a knapsack for around $20. There's no subscription charge, and the reception is pretty good. It runs on batteries that I get in CVS or Giant, and it will also use rechargables. Until you can get an iPhone (or equivalent) for $20, and until satellite radio is free, and until computer batteries are cheap and recharge in 5 minutes, I'm not worried that over-the-air radio is going to disappear. With radio, you don't have as many choices as you would with satellite or internet radio, but then lots of people have limited choices (and limited budgets). What I can get on my mini-shortwave set around town beats anything we had when I was growing up. (What I would really like, a station that plays early music 24/7, isn't available anywhere anyway.) I might buy an iPhone-type device some day, because I love cool gadgets. But for now: Should I pay hundreds of dollars to get an iPhone, and switch phone services to a service that doesn't work very well in this area (and that will lock me into a two-year contract), just so I can listen to RADIO? I don't think so. I don't think too many other people will, either. --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Not with users like we have. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW, gratuitous insult is an oxymoron when applied to Microsoft. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I might buy an iPhone-type device some day, because I love cool gadgets. But for now: Should I pay hundreds of dollars to get an iPhone, and switch phone services to a service that doesn't work very well in this area (and that will lock me into a two-year contract), just so I can listen to RADIO? I don't think so. I don't think too many other people will, either. I'm thinking the iPod Touch may have a better future than the iPhone. The Touch can hook in to WiFi and WiFi is steadily growing. I'm expecting that WiMax will turn out to be the best way to get the 'net out to fringe areas. WiMax may eventually replace cell networks by provideing more services at a similar price. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
TechDirt has a story on ATT cutting off users of P2P software on thier 3g network. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080729/0135151823.shtml Can Pandora be far behind? Radio is broadcast more listeners cost nothing while internet traffic is narrow cast every listener ads a little bit of cost. Radio is safe. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might buy an iPhone-type device some day, because I love cool gadgets. But for now: Should I pay hundreds of dollars to get an iPhone, and switch phone services to a service that doesn't work very well in this area (and that will lock me into a two-year contract), just so I can listen to RADIO? I don't think so. I don't think too many other people will, either. I'm thinking the iPod Touch may have a better future than the iPhone. The Touch can hook in to WiFi and WiFi is steadily growing. I'm expecting that WiMax will turn out to be the best way to get the 'net out to fringe areas. WiMax may eventually replace cell networks by provideing more services at a similar price. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
There are more podcast feeds than I can keep up with. Some of the best are from NPR, CBC, BBC, and some local stations. iTunes keeps filling up with more and more good stuff. I especially like APM's Future Tense. These are short, 5-minute programs that often inform me of tech events that are important but not covered elsewhere, I have to ditto Tom here. I used to have every TV in the house on all day. Now there is just one on for 'noise' for my parrots. I have very few TV shows I bother to watch. Radio offers nothing unless I can get an occasional program off XM when in the car. But iTunes keeps me so busy with a multitude of informative and educational programs that I have a hard time choosing what to listen to first. I download dozens of podcasts every day and find myself looking for excuses to work at something that allows me to also listen to my mp3 player. Podcasting is the future of media. It will just take some time to get the masses educated as to how to access them. I can listen to my favorite NPR show and my Photoshop tutorials and Mike Malloy and Thom Hartmann shows when it's convenient for me and not have to be glued to a tv or radio at their chosen time. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Smileys Are Insulting (was RE: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?)
Does anyone else find Smileys to be insulting? I mean, a little :-) at the end of a comment to explain that you meant it humorously/ironically/sarcastically implies the recipient isn't capable of getting the joke in the first place. Or maybe I should just switch to decaf today... ;-) Yep, you should switch. Smiley's don't bother me at all. It's way too easy to misread someone's intent when they are using 'dry' humor ,etc, because you can't see their body language. The smiley's do help keep the intent clear. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I have opined before that changes in distribution will make us much less beholden to people with transmitters (like WAMU) that redistribute various national feeds. Instead we'll use the Internet to go right to the source. Smary guy, Larry Magid asks: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/14/scitech/pcanswer/main4256999.shtm l?source=search_story The new Apple 3G iPhone has received a lot of attention, but the more important story isn't the new hardware, but Apple's application store and the many programs that run on the new phone. Thanks to a few of those programs there's an even larger story - the iPhone may fundamentally change the way people listen to the radio when they're in their cars or otherwise on the go. Two free applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch, and another program that costs only $4.99, make it possible to listen to live radio on the iPhone from anywhere, including a moving car... (Or I guess you can sit around squirting people with your Zune.) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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(Or I guess you can sit around squirting people with your Zune.) Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. 17,501 coming soon. Fewer potshots at Apple, 12,374 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations on reaching your 17,500th gratuitous MS potshot. 17,501 coming soon. Fewer potshots at Apple, 12,374 I think. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Selective recall. I take shots at both, but you only remember the ones aimed at your beloved. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike Probably because you don't pay attention. And you have certain blinders on. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will iPhone Kill Radio?
I don't recall you having one potshot at Apple...funny or FUD. Mike Probably because you don't pay attention. And you have certain blinders on. He does indeed post about Apple problems. That's fine. As is pointing out MS problems--when it's relevant. But there's a difference between mentioning problems and taking random, gratuitous potshots. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
