Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-20 Thread Karl Wright
Any news from the board?
Karl

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I've been following the JIRA issue.  I'm actually more curious
 about the board's opinion of the name choice.
 Karl


 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:
 News should be posted on the JIRA issue.  For now, it's being handled 
 internally.  Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently MINA 
 has been shipping with it.

 -Grant

 On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news on this?
 Karl


 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

 -Grant

 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.

 Karl


 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name


 ACF passed the Incubator vote.

 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.

 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.

 Thoughts?

 -Grant

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Voting is now closed.

 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):

 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1

 Karl


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 Grant Ingersoll
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 7-8



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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-20 Thread Grant Ingersoll
The general consensus from Board members expressing an opinion (and it was not 
a call for a binding vote, so it is not officially a Board decision, but is 
rather the opinion of a couple of Board members) was that the name is less than 
ideal, but no action by the Board should be taken to stop it.  That being said, 
those who did express an opinion felt the name was less than ideal.   Several 
other ASF Members also felt it was a less than ideal name.

Also, my two cents: The views of these Board members at this time should not be 
construed to be the views of some future Board reviewing a TLP Graduation 
request.  In other words, the Board is elected once a year.  Opinions could 
change enough that they could still say no to the name in the future.  Short of 
graduation vote, I don't see a way around that.  I don't think you would get 
the Board to vote on a future event of this nature that binds some future Board 
to a particular position.

So, I guess it is up to the community at this point.  

I personally feel ManifoldCF is the best choice at this point, as it removes 
the risk around the genericness of ACF and also removes the trademark concern 
around the 2nd most popular name choice of Manifold.  I don't like Yukon or 
Macon as I think they are too generic in the broader world (GMC Yukon, Yukon 
Territories, Macon GA) such that our SEO is limited, thereby making it harder 
for people to find us.  At the same time, the current vote has passed not just 
here, but also up the chain, so if it goes forward, so be it.

-Grant

On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news from the board?
 Karl
 
 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I've been following the JIRA issue.  I'm actually more curious
 about the board's opinion of the name choice.
 Karl
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org 
 wrote:
 News should be posted on the JIRA issue.  For now, it's being handled 
 internally.  Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently MINA 
 has been shipping with it.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Any news on this?
 Karl
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll 
 gsing...@apache.orgwrote:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I 
 don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
 7-8
 
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
 
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/
 
 Search the Lucene ecosystem docs using Solr/Lucene:
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
 
 
 

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-20 Thread Karl Wright
Do you think it would be appropriate to call a formal vote in the
community, structured as a choice between ACF and ManifoldCF?  I think
we need to clarify the position of the community relative to your
specific proposal.


Karl


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:
 The general consensus from Board members expressing an opinion (and it was 
 not a call for a binding vote, so it is not officially a Board decision, but 
 is rather the opinion of a couple of Board members) was that the name is less 
 than ideal, but no action by the Board should be taken to stop it.  That 
 being said, those who did express an opinion felt the name was less than 
 ideal.   Several other ASF Members also felt it was a less than ideal name.

 Also, my two cents: The views of these Board members at this time should not 
 be construed to be the views of some future Board reviewing a TLP Graduation 
 request.  In other words, the Board is elected once a year.  Opinions could 
 change enough that they could still say no to the name in the future.  Short 
 of graduation vote, I don't see a way around that.  I don't think you would 
 get the Board to vote on a future event of this nature that binds some future 
 Board to a particular position.

 So, I guess it is up to the community at this point.

 I personally feel ManifoldCF is the best choice at this point, as it removes 
 the risk around the genericness of ACF and also removes the trademark concern 
 around the 2nd most popular name choice of Manifold.  I don't like Yukon or 
 Macon as I think they are too generic in the broader world (GMC Yukon, Yukon 
 Territories, Macon GA) such that our SEO is limited, thereby making it harder 
 for people to find us.  At the same time, the current vote has passed not 
 just here, but also up the chain, so if it goes forward, so be it.

 -Grant

 On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news from the board?
 Karl

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I've been following the JIRA issue.  I'm actually more curious
 about the board's opinion of the name choice.
 Karl


 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org 
 wrote:
 News should be posted on the JIRA issue.  For now, it's being handled 
 internally.  Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently 
 MINA has been shipping with it.

 -Grant

 On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news on this?
 Karl


 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll 
 gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I 
 don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

 -Grant

 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.

 Karl


 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name


 ACF passed the Incubator vote.

 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.

 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.

 Thoughts?

 -Grant

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Voting is now closed.

 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):

 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1

 Karl


 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
 7-8



 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://www.lucidimagination.com/

 Search the Lucene ecosystem docs using Solr/Lucene:
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-16 Thread Karl Wright
Yes, I've been following the JIRA issue.  I'm actually more curious
about the board's opinion of the name choice.
Karl


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:
 News should be posted on the JIRA issue.  For now, it's being handled 
 internally.  Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently MINA 
 has been shipping with it.

 -Grant

 On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news on this?
 Karl


 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

 -Grant

 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.

 Karl


 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name


 ACF passed the Incubator vote.

 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.

 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.

 Thoughts?

 -Grant

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Voting is now closed.

 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):

 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1

 Karl


 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
 7-8



 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



 --
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 http://www.lucidimagination.com/

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-15 Thread Karl Wright
Any news on this?
Karl


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

 -Grant

 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

  +1 to both.
 
  Karl
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
  jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
  +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
  closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  --
  From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
  To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
  ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
  My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
  for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
  graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
  care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
  I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
  1. View of the name
  2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
  inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
  us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  -Grant
 
  On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
  Voting is now closed.
 
  Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):
 
  Apache Connectors Framework 15
  Apache Manifold 11
  Apache Yukon 9
  Apache Macon 4
  Apache ManifoldCF 3
  Apache Omni 1
  Apache Acromantula 1
  Apache Lukon 1
 
  Karl
 
 
  --
  Grant Ingersoll
  http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
 7-8
 
 

 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8




Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-15 Thread Grant Ingersoll
News should be posted on the JIRA issue.  For now, it's being handled 
internally.  Seems we aren't the only ones w/ the issue and apparently MINA has 
been shipping with it.

-Grant

On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Any news on this?
 Karl
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track
 the NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't
 know how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss
 workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is
 getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and
 ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board
 wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and
 it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage
 with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us
 yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all
 three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
 7-8
 
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
 
 

--
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http://www.lucidimagination.com/

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-14 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Done.  I'll keep you posted.

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
 
 

--
Grant Ingersoll
http://www.lucidimagination.com/

Search the Lucene ecosystem docs using Solr/Lucene:
http://www.lucidimagination.com/search



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-14 Thread Grant Ingersoll
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track the 
NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't know 
how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss 
workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

-Grant

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
 
 

--
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-13 Thread Grant Ingersoll
ACF passed the Incubator vote.

My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask for 
advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling graduating?  One 
Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't care, but in my view 
it was not an official opinion.

I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
1. View of the name
2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's 
inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with us a 
few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.

Thoughts?

-Grant

On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl

--
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-13 Thread Simon Willnauer
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Grant Ingersoll
grant.ingers...@gmail.com wrote:
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.

 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask for 
 advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling graduating?  
 One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't care, but in my 
 view it was not an official opinion.

 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's 
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with us 
 a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.

 Thoughts?
This whole name vote / discussion created lots of noise - we finally
got to a decision and we should make sure it won't prevent us from
graduation. Loosing a name during grad. process would be horrible IMO.

+1


 -Grant

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 Voting is now closed.

 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):

 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1

 Karl

 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8




Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-13 Thread Jack Krupansky
+1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting 
closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.


-- Jack Krupansky

--
From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name


ACF passed the Incubator vote.

My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask 
for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling 
graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't 
care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.


I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
1. View of the name
2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's 
inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with 
us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us 
yet.


Thoughts?

-Grant

On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:


Voting is now closed.

Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):

Apache Connectors Framework 15
Apache Manifold 11
Apache Yukon 9
Apache Macon 4
Apache ManifoldCF 3
Apache Omni 1
Apache Acromantula 1
Apache Lukon 1

Karl


--
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-13 Thread Karl Wright
+1 to both.

Karl


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.

 -- Jack Krupansky

 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name


  ACF passed the Incubator vote.

 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.

 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.

 Thoughts?

 -Grant

 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

  Voting is now closed.

 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):

 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1

 Karl


 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8