Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Jean Meloche]

On Tuesday 05 December 2000 00:05, you wrote:
> I have a question that may or not be relevant...
>
> What is the size of the RPM database when this happens?
>
> The reason I ask is that I have only seen this when parts of the RPM
> database get very large.
>
> Just a thought...

[root@rocks rpm]# ls -l
total 107400
-rw-r--r--1 root root 10473472 Dec  4 21:13 Basenames
-rw-r--r--1 root root12288 Dec  4 14:50 Conflictname
-rw-r--r--1 root root24576 Dec  4 21:13 Group
-rw-r--r--1 root root86016 Dec  4 21:13 Name
-rw-r--r--1 root root 30871552 Dec  4 21:13 Packages
-rw-r--r--1 root root   167936 Dec  4 21:13 Providename
-rw-r--r--1 root root   266240 Dec  4 21:13 Requirename
-rw-r--r--1 root root12288 Dec  4 14:50 Triggername
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Dec  4 02:44 alternatives/
-rw-r--r--1 root root16384 Dec  4 00:59 conflictsindex.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root 24567808 Dec  4 00:59 fileindex.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root32768 Dec  4 00:59 groupindex.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root53248 Dec  4 00:59 nameindex.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root 38092680 Dec  4 00:59 packages.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root94208 Dec  4 00:59 providesindex.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root 10661888 Dec  4 00:59 requiredby.rpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root16384 Dec  4 00:59 triggerindex.rpm



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Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Alan Olsen]

I have a question that may or not be relevant...

What is the size of the RPM database when this happens?

The reason I ask is that I have only seen this when parts of the RPM
database get very large. 

Just a thought...

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Jean Meloche wrote:

> On Monday 04 December 2000 19:44, paul wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been quietly waiting for this problem to disappear, but it persists
> > so I write to you all. I've been trying to use MandrakeUpdate to
> > download and install the latest RPMS of some selected software, but the
> > program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
> > list, but then dies. I'm wondering if it's just one rougue RPM with bad
> > info that's causing it. Any way I can find out? Anyone else having this
> > problem? I have MandrakeUpdate-7.2-18mdk.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Paul Dorman.
> 
> Yes, I have the exact same problem in addition to /bin/rpm dumping core
> on randomly selected packages. I sent a description to the list earlier
> but it hasn't shown up yet.
> 
> Here is the earlier message. I'm not attaching the strace again, but it's
> available upon request.
> 
> Help!!! I think I messed something up, but I can't figure
> out what's wrong. Any suggestions?
> 
> [root@rocks RPMS]# rpm --rebuilddb
> [root@rocks RPMS]# ls zlib-*
> zlib-1.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm  zlib-devel-1.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm
> [root@rocks RPMS]# rpm -Uvh zlib*
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [root@rocks RPMS]# rpm -q rpm
> rpm-4.0-10mdk
> [root@rocks RPMS]# strace rpm -Uvh zlib* &>/tmp/aaa
> 
> The strace is attached in gzip format
> 
> The same happens with many other packages, but not all.
> 
> Looks like rpm dies on a read!?!?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

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[Cooker] Something else to check

[Alan Olsen]

Another on my list of "Things in 7.2 that should not be"...

The man pages moved to /usr/share/man.

The /etc/man.conf does not include this change.  (At least, not when an
upgrade is done. That may be different for a straight install.)

It needs to be added to the /etc/man.conf included with the man RPM.

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Re: [Cooker] Voodoo accelleration problems (7.2 stable)

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 04-Dec-00 by Chmouel Boudjnah:

> * Thu Oct 19 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.17-22mdk

> - Don't depend agpgart for tdfx for some 3dfx pci cards.
> - Pcmcia-3.1.21 (fix Xirlink sharing irq bugs).

Okay, that's why I didn't see it.  -29mdk changelog starts at -25mdk.
Thanks :)

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[Cooker] #include

[Baranyai László]

Dear Cooker members!

My name is Laszlo. I have downloaded Mandrake7.2 and installed,
but gcc still requires something I do not know. When I tried to compile
my programs, gcc replied:

/tmp/ccF2y6Yo.o: In function `main':
/tmp/ccF2y6Yo.o(.text+0x86): undefined reference to `sin'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

the same happens when I want to use other functions listed in
"math.h": sqrt, pow, etc.

Could you possibly help me? Any suggestion would be appreciated.

I am not a list member now, please send your letters to
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Thank you.
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RE: [Cooker] Sympa problems with permissions

[Franck Martin]

I found where was the problem

The items in /var/lib/sympa/bin queue and bouncequeue had the right
permissions RWS but the wrong owner root instead of sympa.

Also the script load_subscribers.pl is wrong as it refers back to the
/home/sympa directory...

I liked when sympa was in /home because then I could save my home directory
or protect it with quotas

There are also a couple of issues related to the upgrade which is not
performed correctly and the configuration which is not automatically done...
The last problem is I'm looking for a the perl-postgresql-DBD modules to
interface with perl-DBI...

Cheers. 


Franck Martin
Database Development Officer
SOPAC South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission
Fiji
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2000 3:02 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Franck Martin
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sympa problems with permissions

On Monday 04 December 2000 17:40, Franck Martin wrote:
> I have installed sympa and I'm having problems...

No surprise.  Sympa has had major problems for quite a while.  I should
suggest you start with the cooker release where I believe a bunch of
problems
have been fixed.

I personally gave up on sympa and installed mailman (from gnu).  It's rather
slick, a LOT easier to install, and offers the same functionality, at least
as far as I can determine.  The web interface is also fairly easy on the
users.

Good luck,
.../Ed

> Sympa from Mandrake 7.2 installed on Mandrake 7.0

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Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Jean Meloche]

On Monday 04 December 2000 19:44, paul wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been quietly waiting for this problem to disappear, but it persists
> so I write to you all. I've been trying to use MandrakeUpdate to
> download and install the latest RPMS of some selected software, but the
> program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
> list, but then dies. I'm wondering if it's just one rougue RPM with bad
> info that's causing it. Any way I can find out? Anyone else having this
> problem? I have MandrakeUpdate-7.2-18mdk.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul Dorman.

Yes, I have the exact same problem in addition to /bin/rpm dumping core
on randomly selected packages. I sent a description to the list earlier
but it hasn't shown up yet.

Here is the earlier message. I'm not attaching the strace again, but it's
available upon request.

Help!!! I think I messed something up, but I can't figure
out what's wrong. Any suggestions?

[root@rocks RPMS]# rpm --rebuilddb
[root@rocks RPMS]# ls zlib-*
zlib-1.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm  zlib-devel-1.1.3-11mdk.i586.rpm
[root@rocks RPMS]# rpm -Uvh zlib*
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@rocks RPMS]# rpm -q rpm
rpm-4.0-10mdk
[root@rocks RPMS]# strace rpm -Uvh zlib* &>/tmp/aaa

The strace is attached in gzip format

The same happens with many other packages, but not all.

Looks like rpm dies on a read!?!?

Thanks!



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Re: [Cooker] Konqueror not working in latest update?

[Christopher Molnar]

Hello,

The person who is the new packager of kdebase is rebuilding to try and solve 
this problem, look for a new kdebase package soon.

-Chris

On Tuesday 05 December 2000 00:41, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   After loading what i thought were the lastest KDE updates off
> Cooker, Konqueror bombs on startup.  The crash handler reports a signal
> 11.
> Anybody else seen this?  Any ideas what's wrong?
>
>   Vincent Meyer

Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Armisis Aieoln]

Ok, weid. hte is the situation... unde the old fwm2 stuff loged in as oot i 
get to use them but not as my use account...

On Tuesday 05 December 2000 01:29, you wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Armisis Aieoln) writes:
> > Doah Is the next build avail yet?
>
> planed in 6 months

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Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Jean Meloche]

On Monday 04 December 2000 20:11, you wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, paul wrote:
> > I've been quietly waiting for this problem to disappear, but it persists
> > so I write to you all. I've been trying to use MandrakeUpdate to
> > download and install the latest RPMS of some selected software, but the
> > program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
> > list, but then dies. I'm wondering if it's just one rougue RPM with bad
> > info that's causing it. Any way I can find out? Anyone else having this
> > problem? I have MandrakeUpdate-7.2-18mdk.
>
> Try running the update program from a shell prompt in an XTerm and see
> what error messages you get.

You usually *None*. It just exists.
A while ago, it used to die on a bad assert. I don't have a copy anymore.
Now it just exists.

I'm wondering whether I might be using a bad version of some library.
Here's what I get. Can anyone confirm thsi is right?


[root@rocks jean]# ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/MandrakeUpdate
libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x4002e000)
libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x40174000)
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x401ad000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x401b)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401d8000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x401db000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401e3000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401f2000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x402dd000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x402fd000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
[root@rocks jean]# ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/MandrakeUpdate.real 
libgtkmdk-0.1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libgtkmdk-0.1.so.2 (0x4002e000)
libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x40043000)
libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x40189000)
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x401c2000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x401c6000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401ed000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x401f)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401f8000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40207000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x402f2000)
librpm.so.0 => /usr/lib/librpm.so.0 (0x40312000)
libpopt.so.0 => /lib/libpopt.so.0 (0x403ca000)
librpmio.so.0 => /usr/lib/librpmio.so.0 (0x403d1000)
libdb.so.3 => /usr/lib/libdb.so.3 (0x403ea000)
libdb.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4042a000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40438000)
libbz2.so.1 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1 (0x40447000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40457000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

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[Cooker] That PERL language error

[Vincent Meyer, MD]

Hello,

I remember seeing a while ago a fix for the error:

perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "en".
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_MESSAGES = "en_US",

etc.

but haven't been able to find it.  Am running what I think is the latest
version of Cooker.

Thanks in advance for helping me get unconfused and less bewildered.

Vincent Meyer

[Cooker] Konqueror not working in latest update?

[Vincent Meyer, MD]

Hello,

After loading what i thought were the lastest KDE updates off
Cooker, Konqueror bombs on startup.  The crash handler reports a signal
11.
Anybody else seen this?  Any ideas what's wrong?

Vincent Meyer

[Cooker] whick Kpppp with 2.4.0

[Michael Powell PhD]

I tried the new 2.4.0.0.6mdk and everything is wonderfull, execpt I can not 
connect to the internet. the kernel comes with a 2.4.0 pppd but uses kppp 2.0
I've searched high and low for a high bersion Kppp, if anyone know or can 
point me in the right direction, its appreciated.

Is there a command-line dial-up-the internet   hehehe already tried minicom
-- 
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Linux-mandrake 7.2
Linux reg#83815

Re: [Cooker] Define hotkeys to start applications

[Zeljko Vukman]

 On Saturday 02 December 2000 11:12, Stewart Hector wrote:
> > I know that is there as I said in original email.  But it doesn't allow
> > you to enter your own actions. For example,  I cannot add a new keyshort
> > cut to open Netscape or Kmail.  Key Binding only allows you to change
> > shortcuts for each action that is already in the list and doesn't allow
> > you to add new actions.
> > How do I assign a keyshort cut to open KMail, netscape (or indeed any
> > applications)?
> > thanks

Yes, you can assign key shortcuts to open any application in Kde2, but
you have to compile Kde2 by yourself.
In Kmenuedit go to any application and choose Advanced, and there you can
do it.

Regards,

-- 
Zeljko Vukman

"The rate at which a person can mature is directly 
proportional to the embarrassment he can tolerate."
Engelbart

Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Vincent Meyer, MD]

paul wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> but the
> program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
> list, but then dies. 

Paul,

I've noticed this too.  Seems that when the mirrors get busy this 
happens.  I've found that if I keep retrying, eventually the list will
"stick"
and I can get the updates.

It WOULD be nice if this got fixed, though.

Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[Alan Olsen]

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, paul wrote:

> I've been quietly waiting for this problem to disappear, but it persists
> so I write to you all. I've been trying to use MandrakeUpdate to
> download and install the latest RPMS of some selected software, but the
> program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
> list, but then dies. I'm wondering if it's just one rougue RPM with bad
> info that's causing it. Any way I can find out? Anyone else having this
> problem? I have MandrakeUpdate-7.2-18mdk.

Try running the update program from a shell prompt in an XTerm and see
what error messages you get.

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[Cooker] MandrakeUpdate dies with devel RPMS

[paul]

Hi all,

I've been quietly waiting for this problem to disappear, but it persists
so I write to you all. I've been trying to use MandrakeUpdate to
download and install the latest RPMS of some selected software, but the
program just dies when downloading the list. It starts to build the
list, but then dies. I'm wondering if it's just one rougue RPM with bad
info that's causing it. Any way I can find out? Anyone else having this
problem? I have MandrakeUpdate-7.2-18mdk.

Thanks in advance,
Paul Dorman.

Re: [Cooker] Sympa problems with permissions

[Leon Brooks]

Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Monday 04 December 2000 17:40, Franck Martin wrote:
>> I have installed sympa and I'm having problems...

> No surprise.  Sympa has had major problems for quite a while.

Three of my sites use it without any trauma. What sort of problems have you
experienced?

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Re: [Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?

[Nalindra Samaradiwakara (Trainee from UOM until april 2001)]

Pls remove me from your mailing list.

nalindra

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Hoyt wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?
> 
> 
> > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Why are contribs kept in cooker only on the ftp mirrors ? As thoses
> > > packages are binary incompatibles with current distro, you have to grab
> > > the src rpm first, and then rebuild it, before being able to use it. Why
> > > not keep a frozen contrib dir in current distro ?
> > 
> > Yes you are right and from now contrib should be versionned too, it was mainly
> > a space problem before, but we can afford more now.
> > 
> 
> All that swag from the Macmillan deal, no doubt. 8)
> 
> Hoyt
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Cooker] Sympa problems with permissions

[Ed Wilts]

On Monday 04 December 2000 17:40, Franck Martin wrote:
> I have installed sympa and I'm having problems...

No surprise.  Sympa has had major problems for quite a while.  I should 
suggest you start with the cooker release where I believe a bunch of problems 
have been fixed.

I personally gave up on sympa and installed mailman (from gnu).  It's rather 
slick, a LOT easier to install, and offers the same functionality, at least 
as far as I can determine.  The web interface is also fairly easy on the 
users.

Good luck,
.../Ed

> Sympa from Mandrake 7.2 installed on Mandrake 7.0

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Re: [Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?

[Hoyt]

- Original Message - 
From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?


> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Why are contribs kept in cooker only on the ftp mirrors ? As thoses
> > packages are binary incompatibles with current distro, you have to grab
> > the src rpm first, and then rebuild it, before being able to use it. Why
> > not keep a frozen contrib dir in current distro ?
> 
> Yes you are right and from now contrib should be versionned too, it was mainly
> a space problem before, but we can afford more now.
> 

All that swag from the Macmillan deal, no doubt. 8)

Hoyt

Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)

[Larry Marshall]

> You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and
> the modem type.

The geographic area is probably a better predictor than the modem
brand.

> The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?"

Try one.  If it works you guessed right.  Otherwise, try the other one
:-)  This, of course, assumes you can't just call your service
provider and ask.

Cheers --- Larry

[Cooker] Sympa problems with permissions

[Franck Martin]

I have installed sympa and I'm having problems...


975972836   Processing /var/lib/sympa/spool/msg/sympa.975972835.22847
with priority 1
975972836   DoFile(/var/lib/sympa/spool/msg/sympa.975972835.22847)
975972836   Can't open /var/lib/sympa/spool/msg/sympa.975972835.22847:
Permission denied
975972836   No From found in message, skipping.
975972836   Renaming bad file sympa.975972835.22847 to
BAD-sympa.975972835.22847

/var/lib/sympa/spool/msg

drwxr-xr-x2 sympasympa4096 Dec  5 12:36 ./
drwxr-xr-x   10 sympasympa4096 Oct 12 01:33 ../
-rw---1 root nobody   1079 Dec  5 12:33
BAD-sympa.975972835.22847
-rw---1 root nobody   1079 Dec  5 12:36
sympa.975973007.22960


It seems that the message queued cannot be read by sympa.pl but however it
can be renamed, What is wrong ?

This is Sympa from Mandrake 7.2 installed on Mandrake 7.0

Franck Martin
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SOPAC South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission
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Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[dam's]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Armisis Aieoln) writes:

> Doah Is the next build avail yet?
> 

planed in 6 months

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Re: [Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?

[Warly]

Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Why are contribs kept in cooker only on the ftp mirrors ? As thoses
> packages are binary incompatibles with current distro, you have to grab
> the src rpm first, and then rebuild it, before being able to use it. Why
> not keep a frozen contrib dir in current distro ?

Yes you are right and from now contrib should be versionned too, it was mainly
a space problem before, but we can afford more now.

-- 
Warly

Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)

[dam's]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Marshall) writes:

> > > ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it
> > > should work. If not, mail me
> > 
> > It should  works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the
> > howto I've sent))  I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me
> > that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all
> > modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel
> 
> Uhm...since this is an International conference I thought I should
> chime in here.  I've installed two Alcatel modems here in Quebec and a
> standard pppoe install makes them work.  I don't think you can make
> this determination by modem brand name.  This doesn't negate anything
> you've said about Alcatel modems in Israel of course.

You're right, it was bad to determine the protocole to use with the land and
the modem type.

The problem is : how can a newbie answer to the question "use pppoe or pptp?"
If you have suggestion... But I agree that it's bad to ask the land and the
modem type.
-- 
dam's

Re: [Cooker] LMDK lib Policy

[Warly]

Robin Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> Where does one fine a copy of LMDK Lib Policy to read?

Well, in fact the doc is being built up... Ok, I gonna put
it in the CVS tomorrow.

-- 
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[Cooker] pppd byte in and out zero

[Kiss Zoltán]

Hi !

When using kppp  , it is working right, but
pppd byte on and out zero. Mandrake 7.2 version.. ( Can't use DNS server
? )

The 7.2 dwnloading from NET and writing ISO image to CD_R. ( ftp.fsn.hu
)

Gnome-ppp not working, can't configure. I'm writing to dial number but
when using the number is another and false, and pppd died.

the kppp is good.

When use the darkconf to internet configure , after the test result
false.
( but  external modem on com1 , test is passed on kppp )

I'm using fix domain name and two dns ip adress ( give internet provider
)
I'm using to configure linuxconf , drakeconf. Have local network it's
good working.

What is the problem ?

Best regards
Zoltán Kiss

Re: [Cooker] For domestic user linux

[Justin Young]

OMS is *NOT* ready to be included in a Linux distribution.  It works for
porn if you mute the sound.  That's about it.  The audio doesn't yet synch
w/ the video.

Once LinDVD is ready, it'll likely start shipping w/ DVD-ROM drives.  (It
won't be free so Mandrake won't include it w/ the d/l version.  I have a
feeling it may show up w/ special boxed versions of RH.)  FYI, MS doesn't
even include fully functional DVD players with its OS's because of issues w/
DeCSS, etc.

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:04 PM
Subject: [Cooker] For domestic user linux


> I think It is a good idea to include for future mandrake releases
> support for DVD (example OMS); this could be easy if the kernel support
> those devices, for example the stalbe kernel 2.4.
> Every day home computer are using more and more DVD and it is really
> amazing watch good quality movies in the PC.
>

Re: [Cooker] For domestic user linux

[Stefan Yordan]

Yes, i agree
But i think that the mdk 7.2 is already REALLY user-friendly, i gave it to 
all my friends and now they are all under mdk !

But DVD support would be great :)

CU
Stef
Le Mardi 05 Décembre 2000 01:04, vous avez écrit :
> I think It is a good idea to include for future mandrake releases
> support for DVD (example OMS); this could be easy if the kernel support
> those devices, for example the stalbe kernel 2.4.
> Every day home computer are using more and more DVD and it is really
> amazing watch good quality movies in the PC.
>
> Thanks for your attention, yours sincerely
>
> Francisco Alcaraz
> Murcia (Spain)

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[Cooker] LMDK lib Policy

[Robin Cook]

Hello,

Where does one fine a copy of LMDK Lib Policy to read?

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[Cooker] For domestic user linux

[falcaraz]

I think It is a good idea to include for future mandrake releases
support for DVD (example OMS); this could be easy if the kernel support
those devices, for example the stalbe kernel 2.4.
Every day home computer are using more and more DVD and it is really
amazing watch good quality movies in the PC.

Thanks for your attention, yours sincerely

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)

Re: [Cooker] Lilo RPM small problem

[Alan Olsen]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

> I upgraded everything i could this week-end (i love bleeding-edge !) and
> i'm rather surprised everything seems to be ok for the moment...

[snip]

> -how to remove double identical entries in rpm database ?
> [root@agathe RPMS]# rpm -e lilo-0.21.6-5mdk
> error: "lilo-0.21.6-5mdk" specifies multiple packages

This denotes a bigger problem.

It is possible for the RPM database to get into a state that is no longer
very functional and is not easily fixable.

This is something that needs to be looked into and coordinated with the
RPM development team.  (I have been hit by it as well.)

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Re: [Cooker] Lilo RPM small problem

[peterp]

To remove multiple packages (i.e. after a script failure)
rpm -e --allmatches



   

Alan Olsen 

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cooker-owner@linux-maSubject: Re: [Cooker] Lilo RPM 
small problem  
ndrake.com 

   

   

12/04/2000 02:11 PM

Please respond to  

cooker 

   

   




On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

> I upgraded everything i could this week-end (i love bleeding-edge !) and
> i'm rather surprised everything seems to be ok for the moment...

[snip]

> -how to remove double identical entries in rpm database ?
> [root@agathe RPMS]# rpm -e lilo-0.21.6-5mdk
> error: "lilo-0.21.6-5mdk" specifies multiple packages

This denotes a bigger problem.

It is possible for the RPM database to get into a state that is no longer
very functional and is not easily fixable.

This is something that needs to be looked into and coordinated with the
RPM development team.  (I have been hit by it as well.)

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Re: [Cooker] Xmas Wish, a game box

[Hoyt]

Xmas Wish, a game box
- Original Message -
From: Godin, Paul
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 2:10 PM
Subject: [Cooker] Xmas Wish, a game box


>Bonjour All,
>I love my Linux-Mandrake. Tried other distro's that are good but LM is my
favourite.
>Here's my wish, make an LM distro that I can play games on.
>With 7.2 final it's not possible, my 3DFX frames are slower than a snail.
>Even the screensaver with whales floating around is slow.
>So I gave up with that version for games and yes I do love to play Quake.
>Am I asking too much.

I had poor results on one install (similar results to yours), but on a
second box with identical video hardware, the 3d stuff just flies!

So, it seems some kind of repair to your install is in order. I could
compare my two boxes,. but I don't know what to look at. Suggestions are
welcome.

Hoyt

Re: [Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

[Alan Olsen]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, David Walluck wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Alan Olsen wrote:
> 
> > 1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
> > database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
> > has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
> > with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
> > of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
> > of my life!)
> 
> I have been unable to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to 7.2 in part
> because of this message. The first time I saw it I almost cried, but then
> I saw no disk activity and felt that it was safe. Yet, even after that,
> there is no "Upgrade" option. Also, it still tried to pick a different
> partition scheme, insisting on formating a swap partition. I have it on
> CD, so a fixed installation will not help. How do I get the install to NOT
> FORMAT MY DISK AND KEEP THE CURRENT PARTITION SCHEME AND DO AN UPGRADE. I
> am sorry to capitalize that, but come on. It seems that upgrading is
> impossible in 7.2. And why do the reviews never catch these big errors?

You bought the "Complete" package, didn't you? ]:>

There is an upgrade in the "Powerpack" version, but I have had great
problems with it. I am investigating them now.

> > 2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
> > "hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
> > log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
> > non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
> > the file if it does not find it!)
> 
> In my /var/log directory I have many files with very long names like
> mail.log.1.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz. It seems like the logrotate script has
> been broken forever. Either it will create those files. Or it will spit
> you out a mail saying that the log doesn't exist like you said. Now this
> bug has existed at least since RedHat 5.0. Maybe someday they will fix it.

Why wait for Redhat?

> > 3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
> > available from the starting web page.
> 
> I think it is there. Maybe not on the starting webpage (what is that?) but
> it's definately explained in detail in the user's guide. I have seen
> reviews complain about Mandrake's documentation, either being
> non-existant, or out-of-date. I think this is in part because they are
> French and their English is not up to par sometimes and is hard to read,
> mais mon francais n'est pas parfait either. That said, I think the
> documentation for this version was one of the things they did right.

It is quite good, but there are always things to improve.

I expect there will be more changes for the better since Jay and Zot were
hired.  I will find out when Zot comes back to this part of the world...

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[Cooker] Xmas Wish, a game box

[Godin, Paul]

Title: Xmas Wish, a game box





Bonjour All,


I love my Linux-Mandrake. Tried other distro's that are good but LM is my favourite.


Here's my wish, make an LM distro that I can play games on. 
With 7.2 final it's not possible, my 3DFX frames are slower than a snail.
Even the screensaver with whales floating around is slow.
So I gave up with that version for games and yes I do love to play Quake.


Am I asking too much.


Merci les copains. (thanks friends)


Paul Godin

Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Sebastian Dransfeld]

On 4 Dec 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Armisis Aieoln <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying, 
> > consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and 
> > used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying... 
> > thanx
> > 
> > dave with no feekin 's
> 
> It is a known bug in the Linux Kernel. All the "r" are interpreted as
> "synchronize disks" (mess up with the SysRq). 
> 
> Next build of the kernel will fix that issue.
> 
> (and in the meantime, be very careful, top left letter (~ `) is
> interpreted as "reboot machine")
> 

Isn't it just possible to disable sysrq?

seb

[Cooker] Lilo RPM small problem

[Guillaume Rousse]

I upgraded everything i could this week-end (i love bleeding-edge !) and
i'm rather surprised everything seems to be ok for the moment...

Only small problem was with lilo. Installation script of the package
runs lilo, but as my configuration file wasn't ready to use (i usually
change clear password with comment such as [insert root password here]
between two kernel compilation), installation wasn't fully completed,
and i finished with two similar entries in rpm database. So the
questions :
-why automatically run lilo once installed ? Other softs are not
automatically launched after installation.

-why does rpm transaction allows unsucessful install to update its
database ?

-how to remove double identical entries in rpm database ?
[root@agathe RPMS]# rpm -e lilo-0.21.6-5mdk
error: "lilo-0.21.6-5mdk" specifies multiple packages
-- 
Guillaume Rousse

Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.

Re: SV: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Armisis Aieoln]

Hee it is

and i have a (ick) micosoft egonomic keyboad

dave


Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver  "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat"  "250 30"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection


On Monday 04 December 2000 12:14, you wrote:
> Could you post the section in your XF86Config file containing the keyboard
> settings?
>
>
> Just found out that i can type r's from another console
> but not in XF86
>
> just to help try to find a fix... cutting and paisting is getting vey vey
> vey
> annoying!!! please help!!
>
> dave
>
> On Monday 04 December 2000 02:18, you wrote:
> > i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying,
> > consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and
> > used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying...
> > thanx
> >
> > dave with no feekin 's
>
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Re: [Cooker] off this list

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

"l.jones4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I get off this list?

the headers are you friend :

List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Post: 
List-Owner: 

> 
> 

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[Cooker] FIXED BUGS: KLyx

[Michael Brown]

The following bugs appear in klyx-2.0-1mdk (KDE date 20001017):

1) Icons in the drop-down math browsers (greek characters, binary
   relations, etc.) appear as the KDE "unknown" icon (the question mark
   picture)

2) While in Math Mode, it is not possible to enter expressions in Tex Mode
   (such as "\pi" or "\frac"), since Tex Mode is exited after entering
   only one character

I have fixed both of these.  A brief synopsis is as follows:

1) The icons in the drop-down browsers are stored in
   /usr/share/apps/klyx/pics as .xbm files.  KDE2  only searches for
   filenames with a .xpm or .png extension (an strace reveals that it is
   trying to load e.g. greekalpha.xbm.png).  A trawl through the KDE2
   source code verifies this; kiconloader.cpp will react badly to icon
   names that do not end in .xpm or .png.
   SOLUTION: Convert the existing .xbm files to .png format and modify the
   relevant source files to use the new icon names.  MathBrowsers.C and
   MathDelimiterDialog.C are the affected files.

   ADDITIONAL: pics/Makefile.am must be updated to reflect the new
   names.  Also, the icon "brelpreq" is a mis-spelling; it should be
   "brelprec".  I have added these fixes.

2) The macro MathIsAlphaFont in math_defs.h has a typo (a bracket is in
   the wrong place).  This causes KLyx to incorrectly identify keys as
   being non-alphabetic, and hence to exit Tex Mode.
   SOLUTION: Change the line
   #define MathIsAlphaFont(x)  ((int)LM_TC_VAR)<=(x && (x)<=(int)LM_TC_TEXTRM)
   to read
   #define MathIsAlphaFont(x)  ((int)LM_TC_VAR<=(x) && (x)<=(int)LM_TC_TEXTRM)


I have created patch files for
src/MathBrowsers.C
src/MathDelimiterDialog.C
src/math_defs.h
pics/Makefile.am

and a set of .png images to replace the .xbm images in pics/

Please could someone let me know what I should do with these?  I suspect
that they should go in to the KDE source, since I don't think the problem
can be Mandrake-specific.

An updated RPM, including these fixes, is available for testing at
http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~mcb30/klyx-2.0-1.1mdk.i686.rpm.  This RPM
should work on a clean 7.2 installation.

Michael

[Cooker] WHy no contribs in current distro ?

[Guillaume Rousse]

Why are contribs kept in cooker only on the ftp mirrors ? As thoses
packages are binary incompatibles with current distro, you have to grab
the src rpm first, and then rebuild it, before being able to use it. Why
not keep a frozen contrib dir in current distro ?

-- 
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Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.

[Cooker] bind-utils-9.0.1rc2

[Guillaume Rousse]

[guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ nslookup toto
gcc: nslookup.o: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce type
gcc: dighost.o: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce type
gcc: ../../lib/dns/.libs/libdns.so: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce
type
gcc: ../../lib/isc/.libs/libisc.so: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce
type


Not yet ready... Or maybe they are requirement not set in the package i
didn't install ?
By the way, why does this command calls a compiler !?
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Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.

Re: [Cooker] Kernel Configuration

[John Johnson]

http://www.rpmhelp.net is the place to go.. Also http://www.freezer-burn.org
is another nice place.

-John

> Hello
>
> I am quite new to building rpm's, but am real intrested in learning so I
> can build my own rpms or help in instances like this.  The above info is
> a little over my head.  Could you point me to some reading that would
> help me learn how to do the above in a little more detail?  Also what
> findings would you like me to report?  Findings on DRBD-dev or the
> kernel??
>
> Thanks for the responce,  the SPEC file  is what I was looking for,
> Thanks Much!!
>
> Joseph
>
>

Re: [Cooker] kernel

[pablito]

download speed 337 bits per second!  Must be a lot of people on line!
- Original Message - 
From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:42 AM
Subject: [Cooker] kernel


: 
: new kernel-2.4 for testing :
: 
: https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/
: 
: - Really add pcmcia includes.
: - Remove /home/chmou references.
: - test12-pre3.
: - Add supermount.
: - Really remove devfsd depends.
: 
: 
: -- 
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:   --Chmouel
: 
: 

Re: [Cooker] Kernel Configuration

[Joseph T Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Maybe you can try to download the kernel-2.2.17-29mdk.src.rpm (it should be at 
>version 29mdk by now) from a cooker mirror and do and rpm -i.
>
> Then, go to your RPM/SPECS/ directory and edit the kernel-2.2.spec file (remember to 
>make a copy of the .spec file first, so you can make a .diff file later --> share 
>your findings with us). Put your new sources in the RPM/SOURCES direcotry and see if 
>it works --> rpm -ba kernel-2.2.spec

Hello

I am quite new to building rpm's, but am real intrested in learning so I
can build my own rpms or help in instances like this.  The above info is
a little over my head.  Could you point me to some reading that would
help me learn how to do the above in a little more detail?  Also what
findings would you like me to report?  Findings on DRBD-dev or the
kernel??

Thanks for the responce,  the SPEC file  is what I was looking for, 
Thanks Much!!

Joseph

[Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.0-0.5mdk & alsa

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Cmouel, how did you manage to compile those rpm's?
> It compiled after the following patch was applied:

i did it without any problems.

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Re: [Cooker] failed deps for kdebase-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk

[peterp]

It appears to be a spelling error.
The actual package is  cdparanoia-IIIa9.7-5mdk.
Install kdebase using --nodeps if you have cdparanoia already installed.
Though I'm not sure why this package should be needed for KDE.



   

Udo Weber  

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com> cc:   

Sent by: Subject: [Cooker] failed deps for 
kdebase-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

nz.ibm.com 

   

   

12/04/2000 03:33 AM

Please respond to  

cooker 

   

   




Hi,
  what happens with kdebase ?
  Where can I find cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7 ?

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -Fvh kdebase*
  error: failed dependencies:
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7 is needed by
kdebase-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -qa |grep cdparanoia
  cdparanoia-IIIa9.7-5mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -qa |grep libcdda
  libcdda0-IIIa9.7-5mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# for i in *;do rpm -qlp $i|grep
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7
  && echo $i;done
  -> nothing
  [root@mumpel contrib/RPMS]# for i in *;do rpm -qlp $i|grep
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7
  && echo $i;done
  -> nothing

  Should I use rpm -Fvh --nodeps or is there something missing/wrong ?

  Udo

[Cooker] Nettalk in mandrake?

[Brook Humphrey]

Hello Cooker,

  Just Curious are the nettalk packages compiled into the kernel by
  default.  I want to hook a few apple machines up to my network.

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Re: [Cooker] Kernel Configuration

[Anthony Durity]

Aargh!! 

I've ALWAYS wondered about that.
Is this the same for Redhat/Suse/Debian?
Also, do you know of any program/script to generate "$(hostname).config" from 
the information in /proc? I can't find any and I think this would be a useful 
thing to run at mandrake_firstime after the generic kernel shipped with mdk 
had sniffed out all the system information :-)

regards, Anthony

On Monday 04 December 2000 10:24 am, you wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Joseph T Watson wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I have a question.  I want to a patch the kernal with Alans Pre
> > 2.2.18pre18 patch (pre-patch-2.2.18-18.bz2), and Andreas VM Patch
> > (VM-global-2.2.18pre18-7.bz2).  This will be for use with the latest
> > DRBD-dev cvs tree.
> >
> > My question.  I want to keep the kernel options the same as they are now
> > in Mandrake 7.2's 2.2.17-21mdk kernal.  When you run "make xconfig" and
> > exit and save, there is a /usr/src/linux/.config file created.  If this
> > file is not there, where does the config come from.  Is there a default,
> > or can it query the running kernel.  Any way, how do I load the config
> > for any of the mandrake kernels such as the linus, SMP, secure, pcmcia ,
> > etc...  Can I get the .config file some where??  Please fill me in if
> > you can.
>
> The config files for the different kernel's is in the kernel package. For
> the standard kernel:
>
> /usr/share/doc/kernel-2.2.17/kernel-2.2.17-21mdk-i586.config
>
> seb

Re: [Cooker] Voodoo accelleration problems (7.2 stable)

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Anton Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Awesome, thanks.  One question: Why isn't the fix listed in the changelog?

* Thu Oct 19 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.17-22mdk

- Don't depend agpgart for tdfx for some 3dfx pci cards.
- Pcmcia-3.1.21 (fix Xirlink sharing irq bugs).

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[Cooker] kernel

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

new kernel-2.4 for testing :

https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/

- Really add pcmcia includes.
- Remove /home/chmou references.
- test12-pre3.
- Add supermount.
- Really remove devfsd depends.


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Re: [Cooker] postgres-devel files missing

[David Walluck]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Franck Martin wrote:

> In the postgres-devel of Mandrake 7.2
> 
> Several files are missing in the /usr/include/pgsql/access directory
> 
> In particular:
> Gist.h
> Rtree.h

I've also notice the permissions are wrong. They should be
postrgres.postgres on /usr/lib/pgsql, because it wont let root access the
database, and postgres is normally the user who does, and he doesn't have
access to the files under the current permission scheme. 

> 
> These files are related to the indexing engine and the gist capability of
> postgreSQL. Could someone explain, look into the matter, etc...? I'm ready
> to help as I need the capability.
> 
> Franck Martin
> Database Development Officer
> SOPAC South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission
> Fiji
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> 
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> without approval. The views expressed in this e-mail may not be necessarily
> the views of SOPAC.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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David Walluck
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Re: [Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

[David Walluck]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Alan Olsen wrote:

> 1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
> database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
> has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
> with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
> of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
> of my life!)

I have been unable to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to 7.2 in part
because of this message. The first time I saw it I almost cried, but then
I saw no disk activity and felt that it was safe. Yet, even after that,
there is no "Upgrade" option. Also, it still tried to pick a different
partition scheme, insisting on formating a swap partition. I have it on
CD, so a fixed installation will not help. How do I get the install to NOT
FORMAT MY DISK AND KEEP THE CURRENT PARTITION SCHEME AND DO AN UPGRADE. I
am sorry to capitalize that, but come on. It seems that upgrading is
impossible in 7.2. And why do the reviews never catch these big errors?

> 
> 2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
> "hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
> log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
> non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
> the file if it does not find it!)

In my /var/log directory I have many files with very long names like
mail.log.1.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz.gz. It seems like the logrotate script has
been broken forever. Either it will create those files. Or it will spit
you out a mail saying that the log doesn't exist like you said. Now this
bug has existed at least since RedHat 5.0. Maybe someday they will fix it.

> 3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
> available from the starting web page.

I think it is there. Maybe not on the starting webpage (what is that?) but
it's definately explained in detail in the user's guide. I have seen
reviews complain about Mandrake's documentation, either being
non-existant, or out-of-date. I think this is in part because they are
French and their English is not up to par sometimes and is hard to read,
mais mon francais n'est pas parfait either. That said, I think the
documentation for this version was one of the things they did right.

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Re: [Cooker] XFree, ATI Rage 128

[Doug Roberts]

Francois Pons wrote:

> Doug Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> HardDrake was not able to recognize the ATI Rage 128 AGP card, and when I
>> manually set the xfree 4.0.1 server to ATI Rage128, I got the black screen [TM].
>> I had to put an older Fire GL 1000 Pro card in the machine to use it.
> 
> 
> Can you send us the content of lspcidrake, please ? Thank You Very Much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
I'll be happy to, as soon as I put the card back in the machine.

--Doug

[Cooker] Warning: this package does not export valid resources lists??????

[Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes]

Hello
Could someone explain what "Warning: this package does not export valid
resources lists"
mean?  Does it mean that I can't rebuild it?  
I am trying to patcvh the hackkernel but make modules_install won't
work (pcima missing) and also sound and other stuff.  Any help here?

Many thanks

Eduardo

Re: [Cooker] About ADSL Support (?)

[Larry Marshall]

> > ok, if it's pptp use draknet, choose france, pptp (Alcatel modems), and it
> > should work. If not, mail me
> 
> It should  works (I've a friends (that got it works with the help of the
> howto I've sent))  I've spoke with bezek (Israeli telecom) and they told me
> that Orkit and Alcatel use the same methods and that from the next month all
> modems will be Alcatel one in all Israel . So you could add the entry Israel

Uhm...since this is an International conference I thought I should
chime in here.  I've installed two Alcatel modems here in Quebec and a
standard pppoe install makes them work.  I don't think you can make
this determination by modem brand name.  This doesn't negate anything
you've said about Alcatel modems in Israel of course.

Cheers --- Larry

SV: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Marco Wesselgren]

Could you post the section in your XF86Config file containing the keyboard
settings?


Just found out that i can type r's from another console
but not in XF86

just to help try to find a fix... cutting and paisting is getting vey vey
vey
annoying!!! please help!!

dave

On Monday 04 December 2000 02:18, you wrote:
> i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying,
> consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and
> used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying...
> thanx
>
> dave with no feekin 's

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Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Armisis Aieoln]

Doah Is the next build avail yet?

Dave


On Monday 04 December 2000 12:10, you wrote:
> Armisis Aieoln <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying,
> > consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and
> > used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying...
> > thanx
> >
> > dave with no feekin 's
>
> It is a known bug in the Linux Kernel. All the "r" are interpreted as
> "synchronize disks" (mess up with the SysRq).
>
> Next build of the kernel will fix that issue.
>
> (and in the meantime, be very careful, top left letter (~ `) is
> interpreted as "reboot machine")

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[Cooker] failed deps for kdebase-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk

[Udo Weber]

Hi,
  what happens with kdebase ?
  Where can I find cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7 ?

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -Fvh kdebase*
  error: failed dependencies:
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7 is needed by
kdebase-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -qa |grep cdparanoia
  cdparanoia-IIIa9.7-5mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# rpm -qa |grep libcdda
  libcdda0-IIIa9.7-5mdk

  [root@mumpel RPMS]# for i in *;do rpm -qlp $i|grep
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7
  && echo $i;done
  -> nothing
  [root@mumpel contrib/RPMS]# for i in *;do rpm -qlp $i|grep
  cdparanoia-III-alpha9.7
  && echo $i;done
  -> nothing

  Should I use rpm -Fvh --nodeps or is there something missing/wrong ?

  Udo

Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Armisis Aieoln <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying, 
> consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and 
> used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying... 
> thanx
> 
> dave with no feekin 's

It is a known bug in the Linux Kernel. All the "r" are interpreted as
"synchronize disks" (mess up with the SysRq). 

Next build of the kernel will fix that issue.

(and in the meantime, be very careful, top left letter (~ `) is
interpreted as "reboot machine")




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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdegames-2.1-0.20001203.1mdk

[Takacs Sandor]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Christopher Molnar wrote:

> Name: kdegames Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 2.1   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 0.20001203.1mdk   Build Date: Mon Dec  4 10:45:52 2000

> * Thu Nov 23 2000 Christopher Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.1-0.20001203.1mdk
> 
> - Code update

Are you planning rebuild some old packages too? These 3 packages use
old libstdc++ :(

kdemultimedia-2.0-7mdk.i586.rpm
kups-0.8-25mdk.i586.rpm
kvirc-2.0.0-2.0.2mdk.i586.rpm

-- 
Takika

Re: [Cooker] i cannot type a "r"

[Armisis Aieoln]

Just found out that i can type r's from another console
but not in XF86

just to help try to find a fix... cutting and paisting is getting vey vey vey 
annoying!!! please help!!

dave

On Monday 04 December 2000 02:18, you wrote:
> i cannot type an r i have to cut and paist it, it is quite annoying,
> consideing it is one of the most used lettes in the english language. and
> used in many linux commands... please help me... it is vey annoying...
> thanx
>
> dave with no feekin 's

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Re: [Cooker] Voodoo accelleration problems (7.2 stable)

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 02-Dec-00 by Chmouel Boudjnah:

> that was corrected in last kernel-2.2 cooker

Awesome, thanks.  One question: Why isn't the fix listed in the changelog?

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[Cooker] A couple of questions...

[Alan Olsen]

Upon install (not upgrade) does the rpm database in /var/lib/rpm get
deleted if there is a preexisting set of rpms? 

Is there a good way to determine if the rpm database is corrupt? If so, is
there a tool to repair it?

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Re: [Cooker] XFree, ATI Rage 128

[Francois Pons]

Doug Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> HardDrake was not able to recognize the ATI Rage 128 AGP card, and when I
> manually set the xfree 4.0.1 server to ATI Rage128, I got the black screen [TM].
> I had to put an older Fire GL 1000 Pro card in the machine to use it.

Can you send us the content of lspcidrake, please ? Thank You Very Much.

Re: [Cooker] Kernel Configuration

[Sebastian Dransfeld]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Joseph T Watson wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I have a question.  I want to a patch the kernal with Alans Pre
> 2.2.18pre18 patch (pre-patch-2.2.18-18.bz2), and Andreas VM Patch
> (VM-global-2.2.18pre18-7.bz2).  This will be for use with the latest
> DRBD-dev cvs tree.
> 
> My question.  I want to keep the kernel options the same as they are now
> in Mandrake 7.2's 2.2.17-21mdk kernal.  When you run "make xconfig" and
> exit and save, there is a /usr/src/linux/.config file created.  If this
> file is not there, where does the config come from.  Is there a default,
> or can it query the running kernel.  Any way, how do I load the config
> for any of the mandrake kernels such as the linus, SMP, secure, pcmcia ,
> etc...  Can I get the .config file some where??  Please fill me in if
> you can.
> 

The config files for the different kernel's is in the kernel package. For
the standard kernel:

/usr/share/doc/kernel-2.2.17/kernel-2.2.17-21mdk-i586.config

seb

Re: [Cooker] rpm capable apt!

[Geoffrey Lee]

Yo,

On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 02:45:13AM +0100, Pixel wrote:
> Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > had time to try it out (yet.) There was a guy who was trying to get it
> > to work with Mandrake 7.1, it ran but I remembe the guy had some *big* problems.
> 
> well, last time i tried, it was *old* rpmlib. I even tried with conectiva's
> distro, but was not working out of the box...

You mean with their latest 6.0 distribution?

People at Connectiva claim to have got it on their distribution working but
I don't know whether it is portable to other rpm distributions right now,
with time, maybe they can get it to work on other distros.

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[Cooker] A Few Recomendations...

[Alan Olsen]

I have not checked to see if these fixes have been made in the Cooker
version.  I am entering them in while they are still fresh in my mind.

1) When doing an install (say, because the upgrade corrupted the RPM
database), do *NOT* say "Please wait while formatting disks" when the user
has specifically told the program not to format any disks!  Some sysadmin
with a weak heart and a fragile system is going to keel-over dead because
of that message one of these days...  (Sure as hell scared a few years off
of my life!)

2) If you have an application that creates a log file (say, for example
"hylafax"), please have the install "touch" the file location so that the
log rotation program does not keep spitting out warning messages about
non-existant log files.  (Or maybe set the log rotater to actually create
the file if it does not find it!)

3) Documentation as to what the various security levels do (in detail)
available from the starting web page.

4) Put switchdesk back in the menues.

5) Give the (insecure) default user a way to change from KDE back to
Gnome. (That request is from my 14 year-old daughter.)

6) Put a big warning label on the "Complete" version that they will not be
able to select individual packages.  So they will not come after your
children in the night.)

Sorry if I sound snippy.  I am trying to fix a big mess the 7.2 upgrade
did to my main production machine.

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[Cooker] www.notnats.org

[Armisis Aieoln]

I have opened www.notnats.org any suggestions on how i can use it
to better the linux (mandrake) world?

dave

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