[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] bochs-1.4-1mdk
It always surprises me that the once mandrake sponsored plex86 made it to deb, but not mandrake. Oh well. Regards -MG On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 16:46, Lenny Cartier wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: bochsRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sat Mar 30 22:05:45 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : Emulators Source RPM: (none) Size: 1168160 License: LGPL Packager: Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://bochs.sourceforge.net Summary : Bochs Project x86 PC Emulator Description : Bochs is a portable x86 PC emulation software package that emulates enough of the x86 CPU, related AT hardware, and BIOS to run DOS, Windows '95, Minix 2.0, and other OS's, all on your workstation. --=-=-= * Sat Mar 30 2002 Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.4-1mdk - 1.4 -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
Re: [Cooker] word perfect 8.0
On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 14:02, Till Kamppeter wrote: No (last check anyway) The open office rpm, and according to fcrozat as well i believe, is simply an ancient and useless relic that doesn't do anything but place the installation files And for a simple word processor, like wordperfect for linux or a less functional version of the one for win, i highly recommend abiword The OpenOfficeorg RPM is now replaced by the real OpenOfficeorg641 and when one installs it, OpenOfficeorg gets really installed This RPM was uploaded some days ago Try another mirror if yours didn't catch it Ah, thanks for correcting me I'm quite sure that if I had a mandrake box I would have noticed Till
Re: [Cooker] mosix cannot be installed
On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 11:36, Cosmic Flo wrote: It cannot be installed because kernel in Mdk is patched (it's not pure kernel.org's kernel). Is anyone is working to do a Mosix package for Mandrake8.2 ? The latest from tvig is 1.5.2 for 2.4.13 and somewhat buggy. There is no indication of a new one that I've seen. Thanks From: Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] mosix cannot be installed (urgent) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 12:45:03 + The last Mosix (for Kernel 2.4.17) cannot apply his patch to kernel (I have a Mandrake8.2bêta3) to compile it. Is anyone have an idea ? Thanks PS : her the output screen : Begin installation... Patch cannot be applied. Compilation of kernel failed. Cannot proceed! _ MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager, modifier et imprimer vos photos préférées. http://photos.msn.fr/Support/WorldWide.aspx
Re: [Cooker] mosix cannot be installed (urgent)
oops, disregard my other message. On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 07:59, Buchan Milne wrote: Latest mosix is in cooker contribs: ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/kernel-mosix-2.4.17-1mdk.src.rpm Unfortunately it seems Mandrake CVS (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/contrib-SPECS/kernel-mosix/) has not been updated, so you will have to get the full srpm. Buchan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last Mosix (for Kernel 2.4.17) cannot apply his patch to kernel (I ha= ve=20 a Mandrake8.2b=EAta3) to compile it. Is anyone have an idea ? Thanks PS : her the output screen : Begin installation... Patch cannot be applied. Compilation of kernel failed. Cannot proceed! _ T=E9l=E9chargez MSN Explorer gratuitement =E0 l'adresse=20 http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp;
Re: [Cooker] AbiWord
On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 08:14, Hoyt wrote: On Wednesday 20 February 2002 03:42 am, you wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:11:03 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: You guys know this can be turned off in prefs, right? And that the below mentioned documentation is so out of date you might as well ignore it. DW, if you could get the xfreefont usage system you mention below to work, please send info to myself, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution, unlikely to work), or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry but I have absolutely no time to work on that.. But I will be happy to integrate patches.. As long as we're discussing AbiWord, is it now possible to cut and paste from a KDE desktop? I really like AbiWord, but don't want to be forced to run GNOME just to use that feature. Actually, I believe that is a recent fix. May not always work, but please test and report ;). Thanks -MG
Re: [Cooker] Abiword: 0.99.2.
On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 04:04, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:05:18 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: The maintainership of abiword for mandrake has never been less clear, and I am uncertain as to the timeline for 8.2beta2 (beta1 took me by surprise given the usual time cycle). Note that this is also to be known as 1.0beta2 for abi. Will this be able to make it in? I have to check with Warly if we can ship it (we are supposed to be in version freeze for package).. Do you know what are the changes between 0.99.1 and 0.99.2 ? Attached are the release notes from Martin Sevior. Not as complete as changelog (which covers a ton more bugfixes), but easier to read (intended for end-users i believe). Actually, I could go ahead and attach both ;). Note that the changelog is a few days prior to tag. so it misses a bunch of last minute stuff. These files appear to be in abiword's format (?). Thanks from myself and personally from MS -MG ATTACHED: release_notes_0.99.2.zabw 0.99.2_changelog.abw PS: Some build fixes which may apply. Try http://www.abisource.com/bonsai/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=defaultmodule=allbranch=HEADbranchtype=matchdir=file=filetype=matchwho=whotype=matchsortby=Datehours=2date=explicitmindate=02%2F17%2F2002maxdate=02%2F21%2F2002cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot For commits btwn attached changelog and tag. release_notes_0.99.2.zabw Description: GNU Zip compressed data 0.99.2_changelog.abw Description: application/abiword
Re: [Cooker] AbiWord
On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 03:42, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:11:03 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: You guys know this can be turned off in prefs, right? And that the below mentioned documentation is so out of date you might as well ignore it. DW, if you could get the xfreefont usage system you mention below to work, please send info to myself, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution, unlikely to work), or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry but I have absolutely no time to work on that.. But I will be happy to integrate patches.. Natuerlich, I would not expect you to work on that. However... According to abiword_and_unix_fonts.zabw (meant to succeed UnixFonts.txt) this could be done easily on a per-distro basis, either as a patch or more likely as a postinst script (for rpm). I would work this stuff out myself if I had a mandrake box to work on. The same document also describes ways (which i personally would choose to script) to add other fonts (presumably those already present in the distro) to abi's accessible list. I recall someone on cooker list complaining about that. No need to risk keeping 0992 held back from general consumption just for this though (*wink*). Best regards -MG ATTACHED: AbiWord_and_Unix_Fonts.zabw AbiWord_and_Unix_Fonts.zabw Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: [Cooker] Mosix
Sorry Thierry (sp?). Would you mind packing (post release i suppose) mosix 1.5.7? Much appreciated. Thanks -MG On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 20:52, Blue Lizard wrote: Hallo TV. Koennen Sie der Mosix 1.5.7 machen bitte? Danke -MG (erm...ich spreche Deutsch nicht so gut)
[Cooker] Abiword: 0.99.2.
The maintainership of abiword for mandrake has never been less clear, and I am uncertain as to the timeline for 8.2beta2 (beta1 took me by surprise given the usual time cycle). Note that this is also to be known as 1.0beta2 for abi. Will this be able to make it in? Gracias -MG -Forwarded Message- From: Dom Lachowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Candiate release notes for 0.99.2. Date: 19 Feb 2002 17:57:08 -0500 On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 01:42, Martin Sevior wrote: Hi Folks, Here are the candiate release notes for 0.99.2. I've wrapped all the work for 0.99.1 into this as well. I built this from David Chart's excellent changelogs. As always I appologize if I've left someone out, misselt a name or mis-presented what was done. Please feel free to correct this. Martin, Please tag 0.99.2 tonight. We'll start building binaries ASAP. Dom signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] AbiWord
You guys know this can be turned off in prefs, right? And that the below mentioned documentation is so out of date you might as well ignore it. DW, if you could get the xfreefont usage system you mention below to work, please send info to myself, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution, unlikely to work), or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards -MG On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 04:42, David Walser wrote: Well AbiWord still works fine despite the error, which can be disabled by the user. Is there any way we could have the error message already disabled before the user has to see it? Also, in /usr/share/doc/abiword-0.00.1/TrueTypeFontsWithUnix.abw in the second section it talks about using other fonts on your system to replace the hideous ones that ship with AbiWord. Is the distribution shipping with any fonts that would be appropriate for replacing them? If so, shipping our AbiWord package already configured to use them would be really great. It might get rid of the error message too. --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:28:32 +0100, Mattias Dahlberg wrote: When I start AbiWord in Cooker from today I get: Abiword was not able to add its fonts to the X font path. This does not mean that there is anything wrong with your system, but you will need to modify your font path manually. Please see Unix Font Path Problem in the FAQ section of the Abiword help file for more detailed information, including instructions on how to turn this warning off. Maybe this should be done before 8.2 goes gold? I can't do anything.. It is up to abiword authors to support XFree font server !! -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] 1.654 - Install report
On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 23:50, guran wrote: AbiWord - opens with: AbiWorld was not able to add its fonts to the X font path. (medium security + mediocre security in BastilleChooser) Well, as said before you can turn it off. CURRENTLY, there is no compile option to disable that warning (a bit of reworking for the better side of fonts broke compat with mdk). Being discussed. Actually, post 1.0, the problem itself (not just the dialogue) will disappear in a sea of accessible fonts. g Until then, regards -MG -- http://www.mosix.org - Version 1.5.7 for kernel 2.4.17.
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tuxpuck-0.7.9-1mdk
On Mon, 2002-02-18 at 18:25, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: tuxpuck Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.7.9 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Description : Anyone remember Shufflepuck Cafe for the Amiga/AtariST ? No, care to tell us about it? (In other words, more descriptive description please?)
[Cooker] Mosix
Hallo TV. Koennen Sie der Mosix 1.5.7 machen bitte? Danke -MG (erm...ich spreche Deutsch nicht so gut)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] abiword-0.9.5-2mdk
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 11:15, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: --=-=-= Name: abiword Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.9.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Ahem, but (no, not Stefan's responsibility) 0.99.1 is well out and just like 096 and 0961 it is also AN OFFICIAL RELEASE. G! If you dont mind rchaillat or fcrozat, please take a look at the official srpms as well. Many many wonderful changes, not the least of which is excellent (relatively) plugin support. Grr again, and weak regards.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] nag-1.0-10mdk
1) I wasn't expecting that this was db's domain, but whatever :) 2) why are you maintaining an old version? Keep around as nag1-1.0 for posterity or something if you like but don't the friendly penguins deserver version 2? 3) Oh, and there was some more updated SAG-related guides when I stopped by linuxdoc the other day. Whoever's domain this is, it's always cool to have a big library on your hd. Regards. On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 01:03, David BAUDENS wrote: --=-=-= Name: nag Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 10mdk Build Date: Mon Jan 7 06:30:44 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : Books/Computer books Source RPM: (none) Size: 259135 License: Distributable Packager: David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/nag/nag.html Summary : The Linux Documentation Project's Network Administrators' Guide Description : The nag package contains the Linux Documentation Project's Network Administrators' Guide. The NAG covers the wide world of Linux networking, including TCP/IP, UUCP, SLIP, DNS, mail systems, NNTP and news systems, and NFS. --=-=-= * Mon Jan 07 2002 David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0-10mdk - Rebuild -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.17.1mdk-1-1mdk
On Sat, 2002-01-05 at 08:06, Juan Quintela wrote: --=-=-= Name: kernel-2.4.17.1mdk Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft --=-=-= * Fri Jan 04 2002 Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-1mdk - Devfs don't create /dev/root anymore (P1007). Did I miss a discussion somewhere? Why no /dev/root? - rediff supermount patch. - updated international cryto patch to 2.4.17. - remove reverting devfs patches. - 2.4.17. - 2.4.17.1mdk. -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Regards.
[Cooker] Mosix kernel
is this tvignaud's domain? There are massive unresolved symbol messages, and the thing wont even detect my scsi. Insmod fails...I checked my lilo.conf, rebuilt it, everything seemed right but it cant find init without scsi :). Please, pretty please, a rebuild/update? I dunno if i missed it (dont think so). My package is 2.4.13-1mdk. Anyway...thanks.
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] endeavour-2.0.0-2mdk
On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 08:45, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: endeavourRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.0.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Tue Jan 1 15:37:31 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Graphical desktop/Other Source RPM: (none) Size: 825382 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://wolfpack.twu.net/Endeavour2 Summary : File browser with management support for all types of disk objects Description : It is a complete rewrite from the original Endeavour, many features from the but I dont know what that was, so could we see a more naive and less-assuming desc? existing version have been reworked and lots of new features have been added. New features include: -Interapplication drag and drop -Recycled objects caching system -Device mounting and statistic charting -Integrated MIME Types system. --=-=-= * Tue Jan 01 2002 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0.0-2mdk - mandrake optimisation - first Mandrake release - spec cleanup - corrected menu -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] scribus-0.5-1mdk
On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 02:22, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: On 23 Dec 2001, Blue Lizard wrote: [Contrib-RPM] Name: scribus Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Dec 19 22:07:35 2001 Why not take description from Yves' and put on new version? Regards. Lenny doesn't read cooker. Abel aye, thanks lad.
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] scribus-0.5-1mdk
On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 17:00, Lenny Cartier wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: scribus Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Dec 19 22:07:35 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : OfficeSource RPM: (none) Size: 1231640 License: GPL Packager: Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/ Summary : Scribus layout program Description : Scribus is a DTP program for Linux. Version 0.2 was written in Python, but Version 0.3 onwards are now written in C++, because this is much faster than Python. The goal of Scribus is to provide an easy to use Tool for creating small Publications (at the moment) --=-=-= * Mon Dec 17 2001 Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.5-1mdk - 0.5 -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Why not take description from Yves' and put on new version? Regards.
Re: [Cooker] [proposal] Installing atapi-cdroms default with scsiemulation
On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 10:56, Han wrote: Hi, When helping people on #mandrake you sometimes get ideas about how to make things easier for newbies. One of those things is scsi emulation for atapi-cdroms. This option provides a lot of interesting features for a lot of users at no cost at all. Installing scsi emulation afterwards on systems with devfs is quite unpractical. How about it? Cya, Han. It is done by default in this part of the world. WFM
Re: [Cooker] the rsync madness gotta stop!!!
On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 14:50, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Thursday 13 Dec 2001 11:19, Oden Eriksson wrote: On Thursdayen den 13 December 2001 09.18, Robert Fox wrote: That is S messed up - some heads should roll! Thank god I keep dual copies of Cooker from two different Rsync sources. This is so unprofessional - an reflects very poorly on MandrakeSoft if the primary RSync source is so unreliable. Most of the times rsync rocks, but when this mess happens it means low bandwith users have to wait many, many hours to recover. I too have to keep a second copy of the whole cooker tree because of the unreliable mirrors. I'm sure they are working out their problems, I just wish that they refuse connections when the service is inconsistant. You should post anything regarding the mirrors to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not another internal list I hope? -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Uptime 3 hours 12 minutes. --
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] abiword-0.9.5-1mdk
On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 03:59, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:00:06 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 10:30, Frederic Crozat wrote: --=-=-= Name: abiword Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.9.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Tue Dec 11 16:11:50 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : Office Source RPM: (none) Size: 13539943 License: GPL Packager: Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.abisource.com/ Summary : Lean and fast full-featured word processor Description : AbiWord is a cross-platform, Open Source Word Processor developed by the people at AbiSource, Inc. and by developers from around the world. (http://www.abisource.com) It is a lean and fast full-featured word processor. It works on Microsoft Windows and most Unix Systems. Features include: * Basic character formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc.) * Paragraph alignment * Spell-check * Import of Word97 and RTF documents * Export to RTF, Text, HTML, and LaTeX formats * Interactive rulers and tabs * Styles * Unlimited undo/redo * Multiple column control * Widow/orphan control * Find/Replace * Images --=-=-= * Tue Dec 11 2001 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9.5-1mdk - Release 0.9.5 - Enable libxml2 and gnome build - Switch to autoconf based build system - Clean specfile - Remove patch0 -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Why so far behind? Why not 0.9.6.1? Fixes between 096 and 0961 are primarily the discovery of non english + plugins = death and the fix therefor. Because it is not an official release.. I beg to differ. What are you talking about?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] abiword-0.9.5-1mdk
On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 15:07, Blue Lizard wrote: On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 03:59, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:00:06 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: I beg to differ. What are you talking about? Verified. ---From #abiword (drivers equivalent of abiword):--- domWorkthat person is talking out of his CENSORED. i bless 0.9.6.1 domWorkwhen did people other than me decide that they get to decide what are official releases and what are not? domWorkthis isn't the first time in recent memory... hubmg_: can you name the CENSOREDhole so that I can kick it ? hubmg_: and the source mg_thanks. just checking (I have been rather out of touch lately). -- I chose to respect privacy :). Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] abiword-0.9.5-1mdk
On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 15:17, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach »Blue Lizard« am 2001-12-12 um 15:07:54 -0500 : I beg to differ. What are you talking about? Dunno what he's talking about, but the latest (and only) version on http://www.abisource.com/download/ is 0.9.5. The only way I could find 0.9.6.1 is by going to http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/abiword/ and see what files are available. Also the abiword project page at sourceforge.net doesn't list 0.9.6.1: http://sourceforge.net/projects/abiword ---From #abiword after I forwarded the above:--- domWorkbecause we haven't updated out webpage quite yet? domWorkthe cvs tag is in place, the tarball is on sourceforge. many binaries are posted. it is official -- Sidenote: uploads also have been made to savannah.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] abiword-0.9.5-1mdk
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 10:30, Frederic Crozat wrote: --=-=-= Name: abiword Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.9.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Tue Dec 11 16:11:50 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : OfficeSource RPM: (none) Size: 13539943 License: GPL Packager: Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.abisource.com/ Summary : Lean and fast full-featured word processor Description : AbiWord is a cross-platform, Open Source Word Processor developed by the people at AbiSource, Inc. and by developers from around the world. (http://www.abisource.com) It is a lean and fast full-featured word processor. It works on Microsoft Windows and most Unix Systems. Features include: * Basic character formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc.) * Paragraph alignment * Spell-check * Import of Word97 and RTF documents * Export to RTF, Text, HTML, and LaTeX formats * Interactive rulers and tabs * Styles * Unlimited undo/redo * Multiple column control * Widow/orphan control * Find/Replace * Images --=-=-= * Tue Dec 11 2001 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9.5-1mdk - Release 0.9.5 - Enable libxml2 and gnome build - Switch to autoconf based build system - Clean specfile - Remove patch0 -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Why so far behind? Why not 0.9.6.1? Fixes between 096 and 0961 are primarily the discovery of non english + plugins = death and the fix therefor.
Re: [Cooker] DVD and zisofs patch
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 14:15, Warly wrote: You can find in the unsupported directory on the mirrors a patched version of cdrecord with the DVD and the zisofs patch. You will also find the zisofs tools with the mkztree to build compressed iso. Please test. i586/cdrecord-1.11-0.a12_dvd_zisofs.1mdk.i586.rpm i586/cdrecord-cdda2wav-1.11-0.a12_dvd_zisofs.1mdk.i586.rpm i586/cdrecord-devel-1.11-0.a12_dvd_zisofs.1mdk.i586.rpm i586/cdrecord.README i586/mkisofs-1.14-3mdk.i586.rpm -- Warly Wow, quick response. Thanks. I'll be snapshotting cooker sometime soon with this (hopefully) and testing install. Once again, thanks. Best regards.
Re: [Cooker] Dammit! Now my Jaz is really full ...
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 06:04, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Mandrake/RPMS/msec-0.16-3mdk.i586.rpm 99834 (100%) Mandrake/RPMS/nautilus-1.0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm 7012352 (85%) rsync.c:sig_int() called. rsync error: received SIGUSR1 or SIGINT (code 20) at rsync.c(230) Are we going to grow indefinitely? Looks like it. Good (though I cant say nautilus deserves to be included in such a high quality distro). [root@cooker root]# rsync -avPW --delete --exclude RPMS2 /downloads/cooker/i586/ /jaz/cooker/i586/ building file list ... done Mandrake/RPMS/ Mandrake/RPMS/nautilus-1.0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm 32768 (0%) rsync.c:sig_int() called. rsync error: received SIGUSR1 or SIGINT (code 20) at rsync.c(230) [root@cooker root]# df -k Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 3582344 2069816 1512528 58% / none 15036 0 15036 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda7 4008380 2020128 1784632 54% /mnt/hd /dev/discs/disc1/part4 1950916 1950916 0 100% /jaz [root@cooker root]# No flame jihad intended. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.16.3mdk-1-1mdk
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:56, Oden Eriksson wrote: On Tuesdayen den 4 December 2001 23.47, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach »Juan Quintela« am 2001-12-04 um 23:15:20 +0100 : Really, what's gained by changing the *name* of the package each time? Won't this break stuff that Requires: kernel = 2.4? It's even worse if you study the subject... 3mdk-1-1mdk. What's next..., 3mdk-1-1mdk-1.0-145mdk-ac12-167.14.mdk-23-mdksmp ? Well it looks like Juan has semi fixed it, but why replace the dash with a dot? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden. | Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 | Current uptime with kernel 2.4.13-12mdksmp: 16 hours 8 minutes | cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4440 rpm, temp +29°C | cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4326 rpm, temp +29.5°C
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.16.3mdk-1-1mdk
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 18:52, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach »Blue Lizard« am 2001-12-04 um 18:11:50 -0500 : On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:56, Oden Eriksson wrote: 3mdk-1-1mdk-1.0-145mdk-ac12-167.14.mdk-23-mdksmp ? Well it looks like Juan has semi fixed it, but why replace the dash with a dot? Hm? Where did Juan semi fix it? And actually, your question is the wrong way around! RPM provides a Version field for a reason. And it used to work fine when Version still was version; or did I miss something? Well, I coulda sworn I saw a changelog notice for somemdk with a version that would result in kernel-2.4.16.3mdk.i586.rpm instead of kernel-2.4.16-3mdk.i586.rpm or was I dreaming? May not have been 3...dunno. Oh well. Alexander Skwar -- Wohnung in Gelsenkirchen und Umgebung gesucht! iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 5 hours 55 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.16.3mdk-1-1mdk
On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:03, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach »Blue Lizard« am 2001-12-04 um 18:11:50 -0500 : On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:56, Oden Eriksson wrote: 3mdk-1-1mdk-1.0-145mdk-ac12-167.14.mdk-23-mdksmp ? Well it looks like Juan has semi fixed it, but why replace the dash with a dot? Hm? Where did Juan semi fix it? And actually, your question is the wrong way around! RPM provides a Version field for a reason. And it used to work fine when Version still was version; or did I miss something? Yes! Can't you see this is a great innovation? Let's do the rest of the packages in cooker this way too! The adavantages are obvious: When you update a package, there's no need to think about the version in the changelog tag, it's always 1-1mdk! Stefan heh. Gotta love it.
Re: [Cooker] Gnome Background
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 07:06, Olivier Dormond wrote: Hello, Since the introduction of the gnome-control-center package, some of the settings have been split in a -capplet and -control progy. For instance, the backgroud is configured from background-properties-capplet and the background-properties-control does the job of actually appling the changes. If you run the -control it will register with the session-manager and will be restared on login an thus set the corresponding prefs correctly. The probleme is that most of the -capplet won't start their -control part when a change is made. I guess this is so because you don't want to have as many -control running as changes made in the -capplet. The feets which appears on the splash screen are related to this -control beeing executed and the gnome not knowing what they are for and thus unable to find an icon for them. Actually this mis-understanding between the different gnome components is such that the gnome-session manager will keep multiple copies of a -control registered in it's config. If you count the number of feets you should have as many -control entries in the .gnome/session. I don't know if this is mainly a Mandrake or a Gnome bug. Could any one from Mandrake comment on this ? I'm not a gnome hacker so I may be wrong. Cheers, Odie -- +--+ | Olivier Dormond aka Odie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +--+ fcrozat? Yes, my guess is that it is some nastiness left over from the split and thus a Mandrake issue. I am not an _active_ 'gnome' hacker but my vicous-builds for 1.4+ and 2 are fine.
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] reisersmtp-0.2.8-2mdk
On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 15:15, Oden Eriksson wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: reisersmtp Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.2.8 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Wed Nov 28 20:58:02 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Networking/Other Source RPM: (none) Size: 71508License: GPL Packager: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.jedi.claranet.fr/reisersmtp/reisersmtp.html Summary : Qmail improvements for Integrated Linux and Hans Reiser Description : Qmail improvements for Integrated Linux and Hans Reiser. Designed to improve performances with ReiserFS. --=-=-= * Wed Nov 28 2001 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.2.8-2mdk - initial cooker contrib. -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 I am so sorry. I'll eventually (I hope...maybe...maybe not, life is sucking) get around to some definitive white papers and a patch and forward results to pi*el regarding that reiser stupidity in implementation with mandrake that we briefly discussed a while back. If so, pre8.2 around freeze time (you heard me, it WONT (saying for myself more than anyone) be a devfs-ish situation *wink*). Regards. -- The open source developer community is strained to an extremity recently. Emotionally, sometimes physically, and in RELATIONS WITH EACH OTHER. We are going to drive ourselves into the ground because of the fact that we are not well handling the exponential influx of community members and we tend to step on each others toes. Communications are breaking down, projects are being put off, priorities resorted, and ^the advertisement clause is suddenly our friend?^. Make up with your follow project mates. Times are tough, we are all stressed and worn, but we cannot let this be our downfall. Learn from Sumer's mistakes. Microsoft or any other outside force is not threat number one.
Re: [Cooker] Burgerspace Game
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 23:39, Steve Fox wrote: Remember Burger Time from the 80's? Someone's duplicated it at: http://www3.sympatico.ca/sarrazip/dev/burgerspace.html Sweet. I once played that on an NES classic. Regards.
RE: [Cooker] why does doc install in /usr/share/doc/name-version
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 06:44, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: It is rather a rpm question, but maybe people here have a clue: why is doc for package foo installed in /usr/share/doc/foo-version rather than just /usr/share/doc/foo ? You can't have two different version of foo installed simultaneously You can if they do not conflict. Kernel is good example. It is true that it is probably the only example :-) -andrej Well, my explanation is easier if you look at gcc. Look at it from a techno/\logic point of view instead of a practical/\logic pov. gcc-*2.96*-let's say you made 2.96 part of the package name instead of the version number (like abiword-*plugins* second place is still part of name). You could then have gcc-2.96 (name) and gcc-3.21 (name). /usr/share/doc/gcc-2.96 /usr/share/doc/gcc-3.21 where with 2.96 as version number, then you have %doc_prefix/%name-%version. These are mutually exclusive though. There can be no conflict with the two packs in latter situation (former is already explained) because you are already forced to have 3.21 named gcc3. The point? GR is correct. If you base your logic solely on rpm then foo alone is best. However, some programs are tied to their doc in other ways than the package and would require such a syntax exception (already visible in your mdk). Usually make takes care of this, but there are situations more practical ties related as opposed to the more common build logic related. My point? Those remain exceptions anyway, so stick with foo. That just needed to be made clear. With regard to kernel, that _is_ one heck of an exception now isn't it? :) Hope that was as coherent as the thoughts in my head. Best regards -Blue
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mozilla-0.9.6-1mdk
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 03:47, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:33:15 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: Frederic Crozat wrote: --=-=-= Name: mozilla Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.9.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Nov 22 19:42:05 2001 - Lower optimizations What now (specifically)? -O3, fastmath, and friends are working well for stock builds... Crash when trying to start mozilla.. Which opt were you forced to remove?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mozilla-0.9.6-1mdk
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 05:30, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:26:19 +0100, Leon Brooks wrote: On Monday 26 November 2001 18:01, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:34:59 +0100, Blue Lizard wrote: On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 03:47, Frederic Crozat wrote: - Lower optimizations What now (specifically)? -O3, fastmath, and friends are working well for stock builds... Crash when trying to start mozilla.. Which opt were you forced to remove? -O2 didn't work at all = going back to default opt Might be CPU dependent. What CPU are you using? PIII My guess is he meant for build target, and that would be -march=i586 right? Well, =ppro =k6 and whatever the athlon equiv is are working for other mozzy qa volunteers. Most can do -O3 (with some scattered non-show-stopper bugs) and all can easily build and run -O2. I'm baffled. Default opts are -O (being changed real soon ;p), and this certainly I don't consider satisfactory. I have no choice now but to hack around and build -O3 and see if I can run into the problems you have and track 'em down. Can you d/l the gcc3 or gcc295 stock builds that are done with -O2 and try them out? Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Mirrors not synced?
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 06:01, Warly wrote: Blue Lizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2001-11-25 at 22:35, Chris Edwards wrote: And while you're at it (again)... Mind updating the Cooker Weekly newsletter? Or tell us when it's going to start back up again? -Chris gc/warly? Not the first time I've heard this (not that I've been doing any better with kc-mt ;p. The modified scripts are still up there as far as I can tell so if anybody...) We started again having things to say, i810fb, new install, new packages, so it may start again soon -- Warly new install? what new install? new install for i810, but what else?
Re: [Cooker] Mirrors not synced?
Makes me think -- do you outside people subscribed on changelog@ ML as well receive install uploads changelogs or not ? Unfortunately, no. Why is it that everyone else who replied here didn't seem to understand you? We recieve CHRPM, Contrib-Rpm, but no install upload changelogs. I and I'm sure others would GREATLY appreciate seeing install upload changelogs and other such hidden dainties. With regards to appreciation of the MCWN, I am not sure what to say. I personally did not really care for it in full. People who do not receive or actively participate in the cooker list got a lot out of it. I personally _did_ appreciate it when some undiscussed/unnoticed things were brought to my attention in the MCWN. From the beginning, I could tell you put in a great deal of work for those. On one side this made me appreciate even more your own persons, but on the other I occasionally wondered if it was really worth all of your trouble (I, too, noticed a great absence of support). Whatever you choose to do, be it yay or nay or different interval or something different altogether, I support you in it and thank you. Regards.
RE: [Cooker] Mirrors not synced?
On Sun, 2001-11-25 at 22:35, Chris Edwards wrote: And while you're at it (again)... Mind updating the Cooker Weekly newsletter? Or tell us when it's going to start back up again? -Chris gc/warly? Not the first time I've heard this (not that I've been doing any better with kc-mt ;p. The modified scripts are still up there as far as I can tell so if anybody...) Regards.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mozilla-0.9.6-1mdk
Frederic Crozat wrote: --=-=-= Name: mozilla Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.9.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Nov 22 19:42:05 2001 - Lower optimizations What now (specifically)? -O3, fastmath, and friends are working well for stock builds...
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tux-2.1.0-1mdk
Thierry Vignaud wrote: Blue Lizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name: tux Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Hmm. What about the tux ftp server? Yes, it exists. See speakeasy.rpmfind.net cannot connect. anyway you should be able to do ftp server with tux (according to the doc) I did happen to take 'em down earlier for a little 'maintenance'. In case you are wondering why fr2.rpmfind nearly exploded. But the description only mentioned http, that is why I asked. TUX offers high availability and speed for ftp as well and I think it deserves a mention. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] TUI version of MandrakeUpdate?
Charlie Bebber wrote: Howdy, I exclusively run mandrake on all of my servers (and workstations for that matter) for a couple of different reasons, but most of all for the reiserfs support during install. There are a couple of things that do worry me. One is that there is no server option during install. It's really not that big of a deal as I always select my own packages, but it always seems like there's always a lot of X packages that want to be installed. When you want a stripped down install with minimal services, that's not exactly the ideal default situation. Another is that, as far as I can tell, all package update software have X as a requirement. Is there, or will there be, a TUI version of MandrakeUpdate? Or will there be official support for apt? Cheers, -Charlie Man am I restraining myself from being offensive and undiplomatic. 1) URPMI!!! It is almost as close to Mandrake's core as the kernel! urpmi --auto-select!!! ~murmur, roll eyes~. 2) If you insist on doing it the [CENSORED] way that makes no sense, MandrakeUpdateRobot. As far as the \server\ option, that is easily almost as preposterous a comment. Look around please. You are definitely missing somethings big. This is some kind of warped troll joke you are sending the ml? You had better have tried both the NEWBIE and EXPERT mailing lists already. [CENSORED] Brian [CENSORED] Regards.
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFs and Fatx ???
Nicolas gomez wrote: Hi! I want to delete this ext2 partition and replace it for a ReiserFs partition with a 2.4.8 kernel on linux-mandrake 8.1... 1) THIS IS NOT COOKER! DONT POST TO COOKER LIST! The things I want to know is the compatibility among reiser and other partitions like Fat16, 32, ext2, NFS, etc, etc. Also I wanna know your opinion or experiences of ReiserFs' performance in comparison with ext2. 2) Reiser better perf than ext2 according to me and Sir BogoBench Thanks a lot!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicolas Gomez Montevideo, URUGUAY
[Cooker] PPC
A colleague would really like to install mdk on his g4. He will not do so until nVidia+ADC are supported for it. I dunno, just forwarding the remark. What is it and what is status?
Re: [Cooker] X for DrakX?
Vincent Meyer wrote: And maybe also with a kernel that will do pcmcia networking install? V. On Wednesday 21 November 2001 09:12, you wrote: Yep, latest tests from chmouel showed nice performance with i810fb module. I'm right now integrating it in the install. Prepare to a new install with i810fb for today if no problem appear. I always thought (since it seemed so) that the not-on-tty7-so-crash problems when a widget is drawn but i have switched to a diff vc were fixed. Until it crashed because I was not on tty7 (X). Is this still a problem and is it easily fixable (silly question I suppose)?
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] tux-2.1.0-1mdk
Thierry Vignaud wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: tux Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Hmm. What about the tux ftp server? Yes, it exists. See speakeasy.rpmfind.net Regards.
[Cooker] Proper specfile syntax
Something occured to me (and a collective uh-oh arises from the crowd ;). Whenever I write specs (now-a-days, anyway), I use License. I went back to look at the old mdk-rpm howto for a proper group and noticed that chm*uel's skeleton.spec uses Copyright. It seems almost all official mdk rpms are using License. Is it safe to go with that and assume that's fine for all rpm or hybrid rpm based distros?
Re: [Cooker] Proper specfile syntax
Blue Lizard wrote: something stupid probably HAHA! Guess what I just found? This tag (superseding Copyright) defines the license chosen by the copyright holder that will apply to the software being packed. Sorry. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Scanner runing under 8.0, not under 8.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Yves snip could be a proble of the new use of devs in MDK 8.1? If so, boot with devfs=nomount (no quotes) on the lilo, grub, or loadlin command line. (Using graphical lilo? If so, press escape at the graphic and type the menu entry name followed by the above. I mention in case you use recommended install) Regards, Yves' stunt devil (or possibly just 'devil').
Re: [Cooker] [RPM] fortune-dune-1.5.0-1mdk
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Fabrice FACORAT : Dune : One of the best SF saga with Foundation. Is it possible to have Foundation or Lord of Rings ? LOTR should be Tolkien overall, to incl Quenta Silmarillion, Lays of Beleriand, c c Where be StarTrek fortune file? Regards (and support for PLF).
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] audacity-0.97-1mdk
Renaud Chaillat wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: audacity Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.97 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Nov 14 12:07:05 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : Sound Source RPM: (none) Size: 1621880 License: GPL Packager: Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com URL : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Summary : Protux Free Professional Audio Tools Description : Protux aims to be the most pratical and one of the most powerful audio tools for Linux. THE thing in Protux is to accelerate audio Production work. So, learning Protux is kind of automating your hands to do fast audio manipulation. For that, Protux uses a own engine called Jog Mouse Board (JMB), which is a mix of keyboard and mouse actions. --=-=-= * Tue Nov 13 2001 Renaud Chaillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.97-1mdk - first Mandrake release What's the deal with protux?
Re: [Cooker] isolinux
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: There is another program, cpuburn, that help to found that kind of problems, it executes secuences of instructions that are known to heat the CPU. I don't remind the URL, but goople should help you. Google?! [root@cooker root]# urpmq -r cpuburn cpuburn-1.4-1mdk -andrej ctcs includes this and more, good for crashing a system in conjunction with more precise memtesters.
Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.
Eugenio Diaz wrote: talking about Linux, not boring Slowlaris ... exCUSE me?! You got a problem with Solaris? Watch it buddy... *three bouncers step out from behind*
Re: [Cooker] hackkernel!
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Is it released? Who will be maintaining it now (when), and will you ensure (TTBOYA) peaceful coexistence with (standard issue) kernel? This is mainly a matter of proper installkernel-age. And will it finally be possible to have two kernel sources side by side? -andrej h, that's a good one. Thanks for bringing it up.
Re: PLEASE UPDATE DEVFS! RE: [Cooker] Yes, yes, YES! devfs v196 available
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: - Avoid deadlock in devfs_follow_link by using temporary buffer ^ Yesterday I had perfect lockup doing ll -L /dev/sg0 PLEASE update devfs. It can't be worse than it is currently. -andrej when after a week or two you notice your mbox isn't full of [CHRPM]s, ever get the feeling something is up? Other than vacations? Regardless, a lot of things _do_ need to be updated. Seems cooker has decided instead of being a devel trunk, to let debian-stable (potato) catch up :).
[Cooker] hackkernel!
Who will be maintaining it now (when), and will you ensure (TTBOYA) peaceful coexistence with (standard issue) kernel? This is mainly a matter of proper installkernel-age. /* Gearing up for 3.0 */
Re: PLEASE UPDATE DEVFS! RE: [Cooker] Yes, yes, YES! devfs v196 available
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: when after a week or two you notice your mbox isn't full of [CHRPM]s, ever get the feeling something is up? Kernel was updated three days ago. Devfs version in question was Yes Juan is our friend :) released more than a week ago. And I have been reporting lockups in Still, doesn't it look to you like cooker in general might be stagnating a little? Surprising from a distro with such strong commercial backing. devfs for more than a month at least. Patience lad (/me *hypocrit*) -andrej Hey, how long did it take you to get those Russian locales or whatever it was fixed? ~snicker~
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kernel-mosix-2.4.13-1mdk
Thierry Vignaud wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: kernel-mosix Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.4.13Vendor: MandrakeSoft * Thu Nov 08 2001 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.4.13-1mdk - MOSIX-1.5.1 (do not mix with previous mosix releases) Last didn't work for me...at all. One thing I noticed was that of course the postinst scrippts didn't create or use an initrd and lilo entry pointed to the one from 2.4.13 (non mosix). Give this one a try?
Re: [Cooker] DevFS and sound
Han wrote: echo alias /dev/sound sound-slot-0 /etc/modules.conf reboot ? Blue Lizard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Why no entries in /dev for sound stuff by default? ^ Working on fixing distribution, not personal problems.
Re: [Cooker] Sparc 20 - alive?
guran wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2001 7:40 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: AFAIK, support has been discontinued by at least RH and MDK. Thanks. I will try Slackware then. guran even sun doesn't try too hard to support it.
Re: [Cooker] Sparc 20 - alive?
Don Head wrote: AFAIK, support has been discontinued by at least RH and MDK. Thanks. I will try Slackware then. guran Just so you know, there's a few of us on a private mailing list discussing other-arch Mandrake installs, minimal installs, and other such variances on the standard Mandrake product. The list has been silent for a couple of weeks due to my job keeping me busy until I get laid off (last day is Nov. 30th), after which I'll have plenty of time to devote to this. I'm acquiring a Sun box in the next couple of days so that I can start porting to it. I plan on having a minimal install of Cooker running on every architecture I can find, starting with i386/i486 (personal reasons, I have a ton of these babies) and Sparc (because no one else has taken the initiative, and people like RH and MDK are dropping support, which is a bad thing). If you're interested (like I said, it's quiet right now, and will be for at least a little while longer): So when you have the time, you can create linux for those sun fire 15k beasts. :) Kernels, utilities, networking, and all. *evil gnome*
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.13-2mdk
Juan Quintela wrote: magallon == J A Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: magallon On 20011031 Juan Quintela wrote: --=-=-= Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.4.13Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Tue Oct 30 16:28:41 2001 magallon Could you think on removing devfs from mdk kernels and magallon return to traditional /dev ? As I have read in the kernel magallon mailing list, it is the biggest pile of crap in the kernel, magallon with nearly a bug per code line, giving all sort of lock magallon problems in SMP and so on... By default, devfs is not activated anymore, if you don't have devfs=mount option, it don't loads. As if we are going to deactivate it or not, I still dont' know. Some people really like its funtionalities, indeed if it is bad :( As sugested in the list Later, Juan. Well, in fresh installs drakx by default makes lilo entries (for linux and failsafe) with devfs=mount. Not your fault, but that should be made clear. At least it did this morning. Regards.
[Cooker] DevFS and sound
Why no entries in /dev for sound stuff by default? There should be symlinks to the entries in /dev/sound. /dev/audio - /dev/sound/audio /dev/dsp - /dev/sound/dsp /dev/dspW - /dev/sound/dspW /dev/midi - /dev/sound/midi /dev/mixer - /dev/sound/mixer /dev/sequencer - /dev/sound/sequencer /dev/sequencer2 - /dev/sound/sequencer2 And other applicable nodes. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] isolinux
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 30 October 2001 11:11 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Paolo Pedroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I detected memory problems at least three times, using memtest. It just works! Now, everytime some friend of mine asks me to check their malfunctioning computer, first thing I do is stick a memtest floppy disk in their drive and check their memory. Personally, I use for a long time the simple following thing: I recompile 100 times a kernel, storing the logs, and I then verify all the logs are the same ; when memory or chipset or processor are malfunctioning, sometimes GCC receives signal-11 because of failing hardware. I'm wondering if memtest would not miss some of the errors; also it doesn't use the harddisk so it can miss chipset problems related to disk probably. Of course, memtest is really more easy to use than recompiling a kernel. cpuburn http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/severely tests cpu/cache/ram. As a long time overclocker, I can say if your system can run cpuburn for at least 30 mins, it's stable as can be. Quicker and easier to use than memtest86 or settin up a kernel compile loop. I'd strongly suggest havin continuous cpu temp monitoring setup before runnin any of cpuburn's modules. 'burnK7' will get my 1.4 at 1.55 ghz Tbird up to 52°C. BTW, thanks Guillaume for your Penguin Liberation rpms ;) Or the entire ctcs suite. And btw, wrong Guillaume. We call this one 'gc', you are thinking of Guillaume Rousse I believe.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.13-2mdk
On Tue, 2001-10-30 at 19:01, J . A . Magallon wrote: On 20011031 Juan Quintela wrote: --=-=-= Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.4.13Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Build Date: Tue Oct 30 16:28:41 2001 Could you think on removing devfs from mdk kernels and return to traditional /dev ? As I have read in the kernel mailing list, it is the biggest pile of crap in the kernel, with nearly a bug per code line, giving all sort of lock problems in SMP and so on... It was a major change incorporating this and I doubt our beloved kernel maintainers would be quick to change back. If you have personal experiences, use devfs=nomount at boot prompt (append to lilo or put in grub to make it default 0x0). Besides, I just went back to using it today after long long hiatas :). Yes, it can be a bother, but it would look _so_ M$-ish to put it in for 8.1 and back out for 8.2 (sorry, been dealing with having to support upgrading winusers here). Regards.
Re: [Cooker] sunsite.uio.no Mirror updates
On a slightly related subject, has anyone else been entirely unable to net install from speakeasy.rpmfind.net for no apparent reason? It's very frustrating.
Re: [Cooker] sunsite.uio.no Mirror updates
On Wed, 2001-10-31 at 03:00, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Dan Mack wrote: own a Class C. I believe they're referring to anonymous users. I switched to ftp.sunet.se and that works for me. Yep, ftp.sunet seems to be more up to date. However, ftp.sunet.se has a different and I guess broken directory layout for a fresh NFS install. The directory layout is something like: Mandrake-devel/ contrib/ i586/ cooker/ i586/ Mandrake/ RPMS/ RPMS2 - ../../../../contrib/i586 ^^ this no worky with NFS ;-( The RPMS2 directory isn't going to be reachable when the NFS client does the install because the client ends up mounting only the portion below cooker/i586; everything under contrib is unavailable. Can someone in the know please illuminate us as to which layout is the correct layout ? Long ago was said that sunsite.uio.no was obsolete; you have to use ftp.uninett.no and this has the same layout as ftp.sunet.se -andrej Sunsite resolves to uninett.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pidentd-3.0.14-2mdk
François Pons wrote: - remove -o for pidentd startup (Blue Lizard). YES!!! Waited so long and it is so worth it, thank you. B
Re: [Cooker] 21 contrib packages uploaded
R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: The following packages are uploaded to /incoming . Please see the end of message for a complete list of files. They are available in http://cle.org.hk/~maddog/files/Mandrake/contrib/ as well. Here is brief description: * bbdate bbmail bbpager bbppp bbrun bbsload bbtime bbweather: - Various blackbox docking applets YAY. Thanks big Abe :)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] pidentd-3.0.14-1mdk
* Thu Oct 25 2001 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.14-1mdk - 3.0.14. Is the stupidity in the startup script from this package or initscripts? Seems like it would be this. It is very frustrating and nobody seems to object to the removal of -o. Unless Danen or someone else in sec can prove it unsafe (i doubt it), please get rid of it. I dont think msec can dig into scripts...yet :)
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] lyx-1.1.6-11mdk
Thierry Vignaud wrote: --=-=-= Name: lyx Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.1.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 11mdk Build Date: Thu Oct 25 15:07:55 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com Group : OfficeSource RPM: (none) Size: 3955213 License: GPL Packager: Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.lyx.org/ Summary : A word processor for the Desktop Environment Description : LyX is a modern approach of writing documents with a computer which breaks with the tradition of the obsolete typewriter concept. It is designed for people who want a professional output with a minimum of time effort, without becoming specia- lists in typesetting. Compared to common word processors LyX will increase the productivity a lot, since most of the type- setting will be done by the computer, not the author. With LyX the author can concentrate on the contents of his writing, since the computer will take care of the look. --=-=-= * Thu Oct 25 2001 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.1.6-11mdk - EcludeArch: ia64 Could you possibly include the aiksaurus for lyx feature? http://www.aiksaurus.com.
Re: [Cooker] new scannerdrake
Yves Duret wrote: On the latest drakxtools, you will find a new tool called scannerdrake. the aim is to detect, configure and so on your scanner. It detects and configures sane for HP usb, Epson usb and Mustek usb scanners. It i in heavy devel for the moment. The aim is fill the ScannerDB as much as we can, so i need your help. More than the usual testing, those having a scanner, please send me (privatly) : - if it is a usb scanner result of cat /proc/bus/usb/devices - if it is a scsi scanner result of dmesg - you /etc/sane.d/x.conf thanx all and stay tuned :) A) I love you. B) Will this take care of all that hpoj and ptal crap for officejet scanners? (happy happy tk fixed devfs entries only four or five months after request :|) What if dmesg doesn't say much about it other than the parport stuff? Just send the whole load and let you grep around? Keeping happy, B
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.12-4mdk
Greetings Juan! You emerge from your hole when others vacation :) Juan Quintela wrote: Description : The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of your Linux Mandrake operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions Mandrake Linux!
Re: [Cooker] Abiword and spellchecking
Steve Fox wrote: On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 22:41, Paul Rodríguez wrote: Hi, guys. I'm new to this list. I just wanted to give you a heads up on this. I'm not sure how universal this is, but it would appear that the version of abiword (0.9.2) that came with 8.1 has its spellchecking broken. Can't help you on a fix, but the cooker versions work fine for me abiword-0.9.4-1 libpspell4-0.12.2-2mdk libaspell10-0.33.7.1-1mdk aspell-0.33.7.1-1mdk ispell-en-3.1.20-16mdk aspell-en-0.33.7.1-1mdk ispell-3.1.20-16mdk gnome-spell-0.1-8mdk well, spelling in essence worked fine with all 8.1 versions but between 092 and 0941 there have been a great many fixes. Update to cooker version will work just fine (I went from 8.1beta3 to current with 0 problems), or you can wait for one of those annoying freqs :).
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] grio500-0.6-3mdk
Stefan van der Eijk wrote: --=-=-= Name: grio500 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Sun Oct 21 16:17:45 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group : Sound Source RPM: (none) Size: 166892 License: GPL Packager: Mandrake Linux Team https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ Summary : gRio500 is a Gnome/GTK+ interface to the Rio500 Linux drivers Description : Rio500 is a Gnome/GTK+ interface to the Rio500 Linux drivers --=-=-= * Sun Oct 21 2001 Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.6-3mdk - BuildRequires: gnome-libs-devel Should %description say Grio500 as opposed to Rio500?
Re: [Cooker] kde3, when?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the plan/schedule for adding kde3 to cooker? -jm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com hehehe. patience my lad. at least let it make beta. come back in six months for 90 testing. you can try out gnome two there as well ;P.
Re: [Cooker] system hangs reproducibly in pam_console_apply
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Well, on two systems I have almost 100% reproducible case of system hanging at several well defined points. They are - rc.sysinit when pam_cconsole_apply is called - sound loading when pam_console_apply is called from devfsd.conf for sound devices - logon when pam_console_apply is called by PAM. All of them show mostly the same trace as I already sent. It looks like it should be sent to kernel list. I can eliminate two first case but not the third (at least, I do not want to). It appears that if you have empty /lib/dev-state system does not hang so I probably simply turn off this copying (and resort ti symlinking /dev/modem by hand :-) -andrej Yes. I use devfs=nomount.
Re: [Cooker] kde3, when?
Chris Edwards wrote: well, cooker used KDE 2 alpha 1 when it came out. why not use KDE3? Get the KDE3 bugs worked out along with the development of KDE3. I'm guessing that the development period of kde3 is much longer than that of Mandrake 8.2. I'm sure they want a stable kde in the final release of 8.2, so they are probably waiting until 8.2 is released before they put kde3 in cooker... i may be wrong, but that's my guess. -Chris yes. think about the stability that is meant to be associated with the x.2 release. Mdk tends to do a good job following this scheme with only a few big flukes (devfs call had to be made and i am not as sure as others that it was wrong, esp with its easy dont-use-it-ability)
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Re: updated ext2resize and how about patching the kernel?
I have nothing. Search Goole dude. :-) b. if u meant google, i did. oh well.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gdict-0.7-3mdk
R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Sebastien Dupont wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: gdictRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.7 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Fri Oct 19 18:20:15 2001 --=-=-= * Fri Oct 19 2001 Sebastien Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7-3mdk - License Hi, this package is already obsolete; gnome-utils already includes it. Abel shh! dont tell him.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: updated ext2resize and how about patching the kernel?
Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 04:07:55PM -0400, Blue Lizard wrote: my hero. ~bows~ :-) thanks. You are welcome. Have you tried it? Did it work? b. reiser or e2? My system (the one that i do stupid and risky stuff on) is e2 free. I couldn't find much more about live resizing of reiser, despite drobbins' remark. Guess I'll be waiting on reiser4...(unless you've found something :p)
[Cooker] identd
you can add slashnet to networks that dont like -o. you can also f* sympa (3rd try on this message)
Re: [Cooker] i486 optimized?
Leon Brooks wrote: On Thursday 18 October 2001 08:53, you wrote: duh. You gonna be using that 486 for much more than a server/router/gateway/firewall/fs? Yes, as a thin X client. Not, I hasten to add, for using FlightGear or TuxRacer (or - normally - even The GIMP) on, just dinky little 2D apps like KMail, Konqueror and Konsole. There are a *lot* of 486es out there which are useful in this capacity. Some of them will be diskless, in which case the ``distro'' would be installed to be a remote-bootable image on a better machine rather than as the primary/only installation on a 386/486. in which case the entire point, getting the installer and base to work on 386+, doesn't apply.
Re: [Cooker] Re: updated ext2resize and how about patching the kernel?
Brian J. Murrell wrote: To followup on my own message... On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:13:41PM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Not that I know of but I know diddly about the progress of reiserfs. Maybe reiserfs resize online now. I found a page on the web that claims that ReiserFS can be resized on-line: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/?dwzone=linux Near the bottom there is a Resources list with a bullet item (the 7th bullet): * ReiserFS is an excellent filesystem (especially in combination with LVM). If you're using ReiserFS, you'll want to grab the reiserfs-utils tarball, which contains a program called reiserfs_resize -- allowing online resizing of ReiserFS filesystems. b. my hero. thanks.
Re: [Cooker] i486 optimized?
Don Head wrote: There are a *lot* of 486es out there which are useful in this capacity. Some of them will be diskless, in which case the ``distro'' would be installed to be a remote-bootable image on a better machine rather than as the primary/only installation on a 386/486. in which case the entire point, getting the installer and base to work on 386+, doesn't apply. I think it still does apply, actually. The stuff on the bootable image still has to be executed on the processor, so if it's an i386 or i486, the software has to be compiled as such. So it's not like you can tar up a Mandrake box and call it a bootable image for an i386.You'd have to put together an entire filesystem for the i386 to use, and what better way to do that than use the installer. Take an i386/i486 system, get the installer to work, install everything you need, then tar up it's filesystem and you have yourself a bootable image. I think that's by far the easiest way to make that work. Yeah, there's other ways of doing it, but isn't that a lot easier? Don Head SAIR LCA, CIW-P, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Systems Administrator [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Web Designer[ 1 314 650-4056 ] [ AIM - Don Wave ] [ ICQ - 18804935 ] [ Yahoo - Don_Wave ] well, when he was talking of a (possibly even diskless) node working off an installation on a 586 then at least you would be using the installer on the other and on that sys (unless you are fond of doing things the hard way) tarring up if non diskless a minimal boot environ before switching over. It would be an unnecessary pain to do it on the i3/4. Either way, you and Oden were not holding this like a sausage in front of a sled dog so either way you still have your work cut out :). (Daniel Robbins is, sad to say, recently out of work too. Get him to help ;p. j/k, not exactly his distro. :), two bad jokes in one parenthetical expression. I'm gettin' good...)
Re: [Cooker] abiword 0.9.4
Chris Edwards wrote: http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/0.9.4.html - Fully editable styles on Windows and Unix. - New and improved import/export filters. This includes the initial release of a Word Perfect import filter. - Dramatically faster spell checking. - Plus new artwork, many bug fixes, speed ups and behind the scenes work. Chris Oh there is a lot more than that. Browse thru the cooker archive to see how much I've been b*tching at renaud to do it. Futility.
Re: [Cooker] Kernel bugs.
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to subscribe to it? Or is there any archive? noip this is private mailing list. which, BTW, makes it impossible to mail to. When I am told to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as opposed to cooker i get message saying i can't, cuz it is an internal list.
Re: [Cooker] Read this. It's unbelievable
Allow me to explain adequacy.org. They pick an issue. There is the side in favor, and the side opposed. The write a fake article that is pretending to be from the POV of one of those extremely ignorant and stubbornly opposed people that has no clue what they are talking about. You know the type. Like my father and Linux. The article is very extensive and precise in its false detailed statements. Then they plant the fake comments that are supposed to be from the POV of one of those people who has sorta touched on the subject in his or her lifetime. Take in linux...someone who downloaded peanut linux five years ago, had no idea what it was, popped into kde, and rebooted to delete it (peanut) from the hd. Someone sorta kinda like that. Anyway, so these people (the ones who the comments are supposed to sound like) think they know what they're talking about. These comments of course are inherently almost as wrong as the article itself. So it goes on, and as you can see, those who think these articles are serious often get quite pissed off. Yes, Mr. Borsenkow, you could say the article is a joke. Most(all) of the comments are, too. Everyone needs to stop sh*ting in their pants about the author who thinks Linux Torvalds is the sole developer of Linux. (yes, I thought the name was a nice touch ;p).
Re: [Cooker] Read this. It's unbelievable
George Mitchell wrote: the extreme. Do some people really find this entertaining? Yes. Yes they do. ;) To any and all: My apologies for not checking or responding to my email for however long, the doc thought it was pneumonia, and when those antibiotics didn't work, i got a new round of antibiotics. These are really killin' my intestines :). -Blue
Re: [Cooker] abiword 0.9.4
Chris Edwards wrote: Somebody gonna do this? I want AbiWord 0.9.4 :) Sorry about the previous 2 messages.. had some Outlook *grr* problems. Actually i was going to a while back before i got sick. If I get back to work soon i might test some generics which have never worked before on MdkLin but i cant make any rpms until i get a new comp with a working motherboard (oh please don't ask).
Re: [Cooker] Installing from ISO cd images ?
Borsenkow Andrej wrote: José Romildo Malaquias wrote: I have started installation using hd.img burned to a floppy and at about one third of the package copying to hard disk, the installer could not continue, failing to install all following packages. ... Please note that this thread belongs on the 'newbie' or 'expert' list, 'cooker' is for development related discussion only (not that there isn't a fair amount of OT ;P). No, this thread belongs to cooker. It is damned f*** shit that was reported over and over again and was never fixed. You can't change medium when you install from images. Just browse cooker archive and see how many times it was reported. -andrej I reported it myself when there was active development of the install images. I have always assumed that when something that obvious a problem is reported by me and noone responds, I must just be doing something stupid. heh heh thus comes the logic that it belongs on other lists.
Re: [Cooker] xchat and memmory
Neal Pitts wrote: Could your scrollback be taking up all that memory? Xchat limits it, so unless he is in 25000 channels... any scripts running?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xfsprogs-1.3.7-1mdk
David Walluck wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: As I remember root on xfs works just fine you just cannot install bootloader on xfs partition because it has no space for it (it starts from the very first block; normally most other file systems leave some space in the beginning). You do not need extra /boot, both lilo and grub can boot off xfs. It doesn't work just fine if you are left with nowhere to install the bootloader... MBR
Re: [Cooker] lopster
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Blue Lizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Missing from some kind of rpm(hd) list or something? (chmou@giants)[~]-% sudo rpm -Uvh ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/lopster-0.9.9-3mdk.i586.rpm Retrieving ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/lopster-0.9.9-3mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:lopster### [100%] no, was successful if i d/led and rpm -ivh'ed myself, but urpmi didnt catch it. Fresh install later, will check then.
Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Mail blues
George Mitchell wrote: I have a customer who has been using Mozilla Mail for a number of months now. A few weeks back, Mozilla Mail stopped displaying new incoming messages. I had the customer update to the latest Mozilla package at the time and that fixed the problem. Now, again Mozilla Mail is refusing to display new messages (they do not even appear in the Inbox). Once again we have updated to the current level of Mozilla, but this time it does not help. Apparently when the Inbox file reaches a certain size, Mozilla Mail has a problem finding the unread messages. 45M here...actually, 47. I automatically archive it after 60.
[Cooker] lopster
# urpmi lopster NO! You vil person! No such package named 'lopster'. # urpmf lopster # ncftp ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS/lopster-0.9.9-3mdk.i586.rpm # rpm -i lopster-0.9.9-3mdk.i586.rpm Missing from some kind of rpm(hd) list or something?
Re: [Cooker] 2.4.10 out
um, in case you haven't noticed, we are frozen. fixes are being backported to 2.4.8.
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.8-25mdk panics: no init found
Frederik Himpe wrote: On Sun, 2001-09-23 at 18:17, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: On 23 Sep 2001, Frederik Himpe wrote: pivotroot: pivot_root (/sysroot, /sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 Remounting devfs at coorect place if necessary Freeing unused kernel memory: 712k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel Yes, I had this problem too, even my machine only has a single Mandrake. Tried to upgrade to kernel-2.4.8-2?mdk, all attempts to all kernel versions are failure. Here are the relevant software versions (IMHO): I was able to solve this problem. I installed the latest util-linux, e2fsprogs, binutils, ran mkinitrd and lilo, and now this is OK. But now I have got another problem, a bit further. e2fsck complains that /dev/hda5 (root fs) is already mounted, so it cannot continue. Any ideas? Frederik Himpe you accidentally told lilo.conf to mount your root as rw, when it should be ro.
Re: [Cooker] what is in isolinux directory?
Warly wrote: Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today's sync pulled in isolinux directory. What is it for? Isolinux is a boot method for CD that give you acces at boot to the full CD contents. That meand that we can set up a boot menu with several kernel available without having to create an alternate boot disk. As we do not have a lot of testing and feedback on which config this works or fails, it will be on the CD2. hmm. I am a fan of isolinux. Use it with other distros. So are you suggesting mandrake will have it available that we could say by default do a cdrom.img from the cd for normal install from that cd, or say, boot from the cd but use hd.img? yay... but with the cd2 thing. to test it should boot to cd2 and it will prompt to put cd1 back in? sorry if i sound incoherent, i am rather sick and tired :/
