Redux: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse

1999-12-21 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message - 
From: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of 
install


 "Hoyt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Using cooker from a Dec 12 image, the install would not detect my PS/2
  mouse. I aborted the install after a few screens; I did try to continue with
  a "non-mouse" install  but I did notice:
 
 alas i don't know what the problem is. please test the following:
 
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 
SNIP
 print !hasMousePS2()  "not ", "detected", "\n";
 
 
 


This returns "detected", but the cursor is frozen on the screen.

I updated packages from the mirror and re-ran genhdlist and gendepslist as you 
suggested and burned a new CD-RW.

I tried both a hard disk install and a CD install and both instances an into the same 
trouble with the mouse. It seems to detect it, but the cursor is frozen (it did work 
that _one_ time before. I get the same error message ("shmget failed ... line 752) as 
before. I looked at the log the time that it did work and did not see that particular 
message.

I just ran it as an upgrade rather than an install - it did make a boot disk this time.

Any suggestions before I do an install rather than an update to see what happens?

Hoyt



Re: Redux: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse

1999-12-21 Thread Pixel

"Hoyt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Any suggestions before I do an install rather than an update to see what
 happens?

alas, no :(



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-17 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:09:28PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

   On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?
  
  It is wrong (well, maybe 'neitherland' exists; but it doesn't mean the
  same).
  Fixing it.
  
 Uhhh, theres nothing wrong with it. That really is the correct spelling. 

Uh? Neitherlands but Netherlander ? 

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

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RE: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beg inning of install

1999-12-17 Thread Patrick Putteman

It should be 'Nederlands', meaning Dutch
Nederland is the country Holland


-Original Message-
From: Pablo Saratxaga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the
beginning of install


Kaixo!

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:09:28PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

   On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?
  
  It is wrong (well, maybe 'neitherland' exists; but it doesn't mean the
  same).
  Fixing it.
  
 Uhhh, theres nothing wrong with it. That really is the correct spelling. 

Uh? Neitherlands but Netherlander ? 

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/   PGP Key available, key ID:
0x8F0E4975



RE: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beg inning of install

1999-12-17 Thread David Faure

 Kaixo!
 
 On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:09:28PM -0700, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
 
On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?
   
   It is wrong (well, maybe 'neitherland' exists; but it doesn't mean the
   same). Fixing it.
   
  Uhhh, theres nothing wrong with it. That really is the 
 correct spelling. 
 
 Uh? Neitherlands but Netherlander ? 

It's not NeitherLands (even thought that would be funny !),
it's Netherlands.

From my dictionary :
Netherlands (the)  
npl les Pays-Bas 
mpl; in the nether, dans les ou aux Pays-Bas.


--
David Faure
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beg inning of install

1999-12-17 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 02:44:05PM +0100, Patrick Putteman wrote:

 It should be 'Nederlands', meaning Dutch

..in Dutch, not in English :)

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the

1999-12-17 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: liste.cooker
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Hoyt") writes:

 [...]

 
  I looked at the shortcut page and tried to finish the install using the
  keyboard only (BTW, it detetcted the PS/2 mouse, but I had no cursor

 :(

 switching back and forth from console does not help?

No.


 can you verify the /tmp/Xconf?

I will reinstall and look at it. Because of my work schedule (weekends), I
will not have the time to do this until Monday.


  Cooker would not create
  a boot disk, not run lilo and not test X successfully. (My install
  configuration is for /dev/hda6 = /boot and /dev/hda14 = /). Upon
shutdown,
  /dev/hda6 was empty (no kernel) and /etc/fstab was not configured
correctly.

 do you install from /dev/hda6? that would be the problem...


I installed from the CD. Just because it pissed me off, I booted from a
rescue disk (I like the one from Peanut Linux because it includes mc) and
completed the installation, copying the /boot partition from my 6.1 install,
mounting it (/dev/hda6) properly as /boot and running chroot. It complained
a little and booted. Major fixing  was required as many, many packages were
not installed (many from the base list like gawk and the related symlinks)
but I was able slog through and even got X running - thanks goodness for
ezrpm, you should make it part of the base install! Still a few problems:
You guys moved some of the desktop icons to another rpm and I haven't found
it yet, Netdrake won't run, drakX crashes and for the life of me, I cannot
get the font server working. Still, I got enough working to make me feel
better about my install and recovery skills




 PS: i just added the following to SHORTCUTS:




 in case of complete mouse sh**t

 XFree86 provides a way of moving the mouse pointer:
 - first, press Ctrl-Shift-NumLock
 - then move the pointer with the keypad arrows
 - press button is ``0'' (aka Inser)
 - release button is ``.'' (aka Suppr)

This would be a BIG help. Thanks.

Hoyt






Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-16 Thread Vandoorselaere Yoann

Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Vandoorselaere Yoann wrote:
 
  Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
 The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
 Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
 it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
 I skipped the step and rebooted.

 Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
 installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
 in a 10 minute FSCK.
 Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
 shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
 well as most of my daemons.
   
First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.
  
   Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my
   network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot.
 
  Which security level have you used ?
 
 Maximum. I assumed that it would not impact my ethernet settings.

It hasn't
-- 
   -- Yoann,  http://www.security-addict.org
 It is well known that M$ products don't call free() after a malloc().
 The Unix community wish them good luck for their future developments.



[Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-16 Thread Hoyt

Using cooker from a Dec 12 image, the install would not detect my PS/2
mouse. I aborted the install after a few screens; I did try to continue with
a "non-mouse" install  but I did notice:

On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?

The visual differences between a selected button and a non-selected button
were not very noticable, making it difficult to use the tab, arrow and enter
key to continue the install.

The tab key won't take me to the info section to allow me to read the
explanations of the choices.

I finally stopped at the partitioning screen, fearing I would munge my
drive. It seemed impossible to navigate this screen correctly without a
mouse.


Kudos on the look of the graphic-based install. I have not seen it since the
September build. What file should be up-dated to fix the mouse problem?

Hoyt



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-16 Thread Pixel

"Hoyt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Using cooker from a Dec 12 image, the install would not detect my PS/2
 mouse. I aborted the install after a few screens; I did try to continue with
 a "non-mouse" install  but I did notice:
 
 On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?

ispell seems happy with it. someone knows better?

 
 The visual differences between a selected button and a non-selected button
 were not very noticable, making it difficult to use the tab, arrow and enter
 key to continue the install.
 

this is a known i'm complaining about. Alas it can't be a priority since not a
lot of people do complain about it :-/

 The tab key won't take me to the info section to allow me to read the
 explanations of the choices.
 

do you really need help? ;-)

 I finally stopped at the partitioning screen, fearing I would munge my
 drive. It seemed impossible to navigate this screen correctly without a
 mouse.

look at www.linux-mandrake.com/drakx/SHORTCUTS

 
 
 Kudos on the look of the graphic-based install. I have not seen it since the
 September build. What file should be up-dated to fix the mouse problem?
 

alas i don't know what the problem is. please test the following:


#!/usr/bin/perl

sub tryOpen($) {
local *F;
sysopen F, $_[0], 2048 and *F;
}

sub hasMousePS2() {
my $t; sysread(tryOpen("/dev/psaux") || return, $t, 256) != 1 || $t ne "\xFE";
}

print !hasMousePS2()  "not ", "detected", "\n";




Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-16 Thread Pixel

Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 
  I finally stopped at the partitioning screen, fearing I would munge my
  drive. It seemed impossible to navigate this screen correctly without a
  mouse.
 
 look at www.linux-mandrake.com/drakx/SHORTCUTS

by the way, i only use keyboard when installing ;-)
(at least in Recommended and Custom)



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-16 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:56:53PM +0100, Pixel wrote:

 On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?
 
 ispell seems happy with it. someone knows better?

It is wrong (well, maybe 'neitherland' exists; but it doesn't mean the
same).
Fixing it.

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/   PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the beginning of install

1999-12-16 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: Pablo Saratxaga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the
beginning of install


Kaixo!

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:56:53PM +0100, Pixel wrote:

 On the language screen, is "Netherlands" spelled correctly?

 ispell seems happy with it. someone knows better?

It is wrong (well, maybe 'neitherland' exists; but it doesn't mean the
same).
Fixing it.

Pixel says it is correct, so I'll go with that.

I looked at the shortcut page and tried to finish the install using the
keyboard only (BTW, it detetcted the PS/2 mouse, but I had no cursor
control; there was a symlink error and an attempt to delete a directory that
didn't exist by the time the gui screen popped up). Cooker would not create
a boot disk, not run lilo and not test X successfully. (My install
configuration is for /dev/hda6 = /boot and /dev/hda14 = /). Upon shutdown,
/dev/hda6 was empty (no kernel) and /etc/fstab was not configured correctly.
I will try a non-drak-X install and see how that goes.

Hoyt



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches - does not detect mouse at the

1999-12-16 Thread Pixel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Hoyt") writes:

[...]

 
 I looked at the shortcut page and tried to finish the install using the
 keyboard only (BTW, it detetcted the PS/2 mouse, but I had no cursor

:(

switching back and forth from console does not help?

can you verify the /tmp/Xconf?

 control; there was a symlink error and an attempt to delete a directory that
 didn't exist by the time the gui screen popped up).

that's not a problem (or at least not *the* problem).

 Cooker would not create
 a boot disk, not run lilo and not test X successfully. (My install
 configuration is for /dev/hda6 = /boot and /dev/hda14 = /). Upon shutdown,
 /dev/hda6 was empty (no kernel) and /etc/fstab was not configured correctly.

do you install from /dev/hda6? that would be the problem...



PS: i just added the following to SHORTCUTS:


in case of complete mouse sh**t

XFree86 provides a way of moving the mouse pointer:
- first, press Ctrl-Shift-NumLock
- then move the pointer with the keypad arrows
- press button is ``0'' (aka Inser)
- release button is ``.'' (aka Suppr)



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-15 Thread Vandoorselaere Yoann

Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
   The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
   Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
   it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
   I skipped the step and rebooted.
  
   Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
   installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
   in a 10 minute FSCK.
   Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
   shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
   well as most of my daemons.
 
  First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
  Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.
 
 Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my
 network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot.

Which security level have you used ?


-- 
   -- Yoann,  http://www.security-addict.org
 It is well known that M$ products don't call free() after a malloc().
 The Unix community wish them good luck for their future developments.



Re[2]: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-15 Thread tracer

Wednesday, December 15, 1999

Dara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
  The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
  Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
  it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
  I skipped the step and rebooted.
 
  Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
  installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
  in a 10 minute FSCK.
  Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
  shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
  well as most of my daemons.

 First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
 Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.

Dara Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my
Dara network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot.



  Most aggregious was that it actually
  commented out my /etc/resolv/conf .

 Msec didn't use /etc/resolv.conf
 [yoann@jinn msec]$ grep -r "resolv.conf" *
 [yoann@jinn msec]$

Dara This could be my fault, although I honestly do not remember doing such a
Dara thing. People do strange things at night ;-)

Dara Another point:
Dara cooker does not replace the RedHat init scripts properly, in asmuch as I
Dara still get: booting RedHat when I boot. Ideas?

Dara Dara

Maybe a bit late but when installing betas, I normally would recommend
a clean one as a starter...
And Mandrake isnt Redhat
You probably find if you DO want to run mandrake you better stick it
on a spare box to see what it does, clean instead of overwriting
Redhat and get a Hash with unknown constituents...
In the end you have gueranteed more problems...
Best regards,
 
tracer

Using theBAT 1.38e 

mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 271194




Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-15 Thread Dara Hazeghi

Vandoorselaere Yoann wrote:

 Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
I skipped the step and rebooted.
   
Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
in a 10 minute FSCK.
Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
well as most of my daemons.
  
   First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
   Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.
 
  Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my
  network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot.

 Which security level have you used ?

Maximum. I assumed that it would not impact my ethernet settings.

Dara



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-14 Thread yoann

Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
 The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
 Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
 it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
 I skipped the step and rebooted.
 
 Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
 installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
 in a 10 minute FSCK.  
 Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
 shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
 well as most of my daemons. 

First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.

 Most aggregious was that it actually
 commented out my /etc/resolv/conf . 

Msec didn't use /etc/resolv.conf
[yoann@jinn msec]$ grep -r "resolv.conf" *
[yoann@jinn msec]$ 


-- 
-- Yoann http://www.security-addict.org
 It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-14 Thread Dara Hazeghi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
  The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
  Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
  it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
  I skipped the step and rebooted.
 
  Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
  installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
  in a 10 minute FSCK.
  Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
  shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
  well as most of my daemons.

 First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode.
 Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them.

Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my
network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot.



  Most aggregious was that it actually
  commented out my /etc/resolv/conf .

 Msec didn't use /etc/resolv.conf
 [yoann@jinn msec]$ grep -r "resolv.conf" *
 [yoann@jinn msec]$

This could be my fault, although I honestly do not remember doing such a
thing. People do strange things at night ;-)

Another point:
cooker does not replace the RedHat init scripts properly, in asmuch as I
still get: booting RedHat when I boot. Ideas?

Dara



Re: [Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-14 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Dara Hazeghi wrote:
[..]
 Another point:
 cooker does not replace the RedHat init scripts properly, in asmuch as I
 still get: booting RedHat when I boot. Ideas?
 
 Dara

Not a pretty one,

for i in `rpm -qa --qf %{NAME}`; do
rpm -q --qf %{RELEASE}|grep mdk || rpm -Uhv --oldpackage --force \
$i*.rpm
done





[Cooker] Cooker glitches

1999-12-13 Thread Dara Hazeghi

I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well.
The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc.
Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that
it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such.
I skipped the step and rebooted.

Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's
installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted
in a 10 minute FSCK.  Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than
shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as
well as most of my daemons. Most aggregious was that it actually
commented out my /etc/resolv/conf . Having gotten networking fixed, I
tried to startx . No dice. Cooker's installer had removed my previous
config. I then tried to install the XFree86 RPM which seemed to have not
been installed either. I got my very first kernel oops.

Thankfully Cooker had saved my old 2.2.13-31mdkfb kernel, so I booted
off it. After another long FSCK, I installed XFree86. I try startx
again. Can't because X can't find XF86Config file. I run Xconfigurator.
Log out as root. Log in as user. Can't startx. Log in back as root. Can
startx. Finally decided upon chmod a+rw /etc/X11/XF86Config. Did the
trick. Next problem is KDE. Error loading symbol from
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: no such file or directory. I
dutifully made the symlink. Fantastic. KDE loads. I type backspace in my
Konsole window. Tilde appears. I examine X log after logging out of KDE.
Discover that X could not write to /var/tmp/xmkb or some such. I chmod
a+rw the directory. Launch X. Finally a usable system. I am now
currently in the process of setting up all the little daemons that have
been disabled.

This message was not meant as an exercise in grumbling. I am not a Linux
know-it-all, however I'm not a newbie either. I think most of the issues
I came across require some sort of addressing. Thanks for your time and
happy hacking.

Dara Hazeghi

P.S. KFM still crashes loading www.linux-mandrake.com . Just segfaults .
Also whenever I start up KFM I get annoying messages like: Could not
find mime-type audio/x-m3u in /usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/kmpg.kdelnk.
I can't install kmpg because it conflicts with kmp3. Oh and the KDE icon
for .asc files is about 2X the size it should be.

Also why do floppy and cdrom automagically mount on boot? Seems a bit
strange, and generates all sorts of errors. Thanks again.