Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:31, Digital Wokan wrote: Mandrake is right to move it to PLF from a business point of view (and let's face it, we all want to be paid for our work, no matter what that work is). Of course, adding PLF to the list of software install sites for URPMI during the use of RPMDrake or whatever the GUI version of the software installer is would be a nice little bennie. It's not possible to do that automatically, because that associates MandrakeSoft with PLF, and the point of PLF is that it's a repository MandrakeSoft can deny and relationship with. So it has to remain completely separate from the main distro. You can add it as a source yourself - there's instructions on the front page at http://plf.zarb.org . -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:41, Digital Wokan wrote: I just remembered after sending this that they don't officially support contribs anyway, so why be worried about what shows up there, as long as it isn't under an incompatible license. Because of appearances. It's in some sense linked to MandrakeSoft - it's hosted on their servers, for a start. Not supported isn't exactly relevant. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On 21 Sep 2002, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:41, Digital Wokan wrote: I just remembered after sending this that they don't officially support contribs anyway, so why be worried about what shows up there, as long as it isn't under an incompatible license. Because of appearances. It's in some sense linked to MandrakeSoft - it's hosted on their servers, for a start. Not supported isn't exactly relevant. And they ship it on CDs and DVDs. -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:20, Levi Ramsey wrote: This thread from one of the Debian ML's is the classic in this subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg00829.html They seem to have been discussing a package which actually had some use, though. My argument is simple. Having this package officially associated with the distro could conceivably offend *someone* - anyone - enough that they don't use Mandrake. Doesn't have to be lots of people, doesn't even have to happen, it's just conceivable. NOT having it officially associated with the package isn't going to stop anyone at all using Mandrake. Thus, on a purely commercial basis, the sensible decision is to have it in PLF, i.e., not officially associated with MDK. This isn't a moral crusade here. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On 19 Sep 2002, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 20:00, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) [snip] Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. Is it true after all what they say about British men? :-))) *jumping in my flamesuit* Guy
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 20:00, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : MonitoringSource RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. don't be a prude, I think it's funny:)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 09:46, Guy.Bormann wrote: Is it true after all what they say about British men? :-))) *jumping in my flamesuit* Huh? What's that? That we enjoy marmite? That we discuss the weather a lot? That we're not terribly good at cricket? -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Mandrake is right to move it to PLF from a business point of view (and let's face it, we all want to be paid for our work, no matter what that work is). Of course, adding PLF to the list of software install sites for URPMI during the use of RPMDrake or whatever the GUI version of the software installer is would be a nice little bennie. On Friday 20 September 2002 01:38, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:20, Levi Ramsey wrote: This thread from one of the Debian ML's is the classic in this subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg00829.ht ml They seem to have been discussing a package which actually had some use, though. My argument is simple. Having this package officially associated with the distro could conceivably offend *someone* - anyone - enough that they don't use Mandrake. Doesn't have to be lots of people, doesn't even have to happen, it's just conceivable. NOT having it officially associated with the package isn't going to stop anyone at all using Mandrake. Thus, on a purely commercial basis, the sensible decision is to have it in PLF, i.e., not officially associated with MDK. This isn't a moral crusade here.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
I just remembered after sending this that they don't officially support contribs anyway, so why be worried about what shows up there, as long as it isn't under an incompatible license. On Thursday 19 September 2002 20:31, Digital Wokan wrote: Mandrake is right to move it to PLF from a business point of view (and let's face it, we all want to be paid for our work, no matter what that work is). Of course, adding PLF to the list of software install sites for URPMI during the use of RPMDrake or whatever the GUI version of the software installer is would be a nice little bennie. On Friday 20 September 2002 01:38, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:20, Levi Ramsey wrote: This thread from one of the Debian ML's is the classic in this subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg00829. ht ml They seem to have been discussing a package which actually had some use, though. My argument is simple. Having this package officially associated with the distro could conceivably offend *someone* - anyone - enough that they don't use Mandrake. Doesn't have to be lots of people, doesn't even have to happen, it's just conceivable. NOT having it officially associated with the package isn't going to stop anyone at all using Mandrake. Thus, on a purely commercial basis, the sensible decision is to have it in PLF, i.e., not officially associated with MDK. This isn't a moral crusade here.
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Thu Sep 19 21:00 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! Could this be the app that makes Linux into the ultimate college-student OS? :oD -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. Linux 2.4.19-9mdk 4:20pm up 1 day, 3:31, 6 users, load average: 0.16, 0.23, 0.18
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 20:00, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : MonitoringSource RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 21:31, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 20:00, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
I personally think the last remark about porn was WAY too harsh. This may not be what every person wants running on thier desktop but it is definitely NOT porn either. I downloaded it just for the comical effect and to have somethig else M$ doesn't have. I may only check it out once or I may keep it for good but I am at least OPEN minded and enjoy humor. Not to mention I am not offended by a beautiful body when I see one *grin*. David On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 16:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 21:31, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 20:00, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... -- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On 19 Sep 2002 17:03:18 -0400 David Dreggors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think the last remark about porn was WAY too harsh. This may not be what every person wants running on thier desktop but it is definitely NOT porn either. I downloaded it just for the comical effect and to have somethig else M$ doesn't have. I may only check it out once or I may keep it for good but I am at least OPEN minded and enjoy humor. Not to mention I am not offended by a beautiful body when I see one*grin*. yea, it's just fun. And way more beautiful than the usual cpu-stats. I think at least no European can be seriously offended by that, there's more (real) skin to be seen in advertising and newspaper booths around here. Thanks for the rpm. - Mark
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 21:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... I meant, it's an entirely non-essential package; there's hundreds of tools to monitor your CPU temp in exactly the same fashion without potentially offending some people. Given that situation, there's no reason to include one which *could* be potentially offensive. Good to move it from any official link with the distro then, I agree with that decision. -- adamw
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Finally a utility that has some usefullnes and isn't a total waste of Hard drive space like such utils as GCC, KDE, gkrellm, etc... :) Thanks Guillaume - now I'm going to have to write a program that does a while(1) for a few mins and put it in my crontab. hehe On Thursday 19 September 2002 03:00 pm, Guillaume Rousse wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : MonitoringSource RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! --=-=-= * Fri Sep 20 2002 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.1.0-1mdk - first Mandrake release -- Jason Straight
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
While this may not get my grandmother to use Linux, I'll bet it might convince my brother and a couple more friends at work. :) Guillaume Rousse wrote, On 9/19/2002 3:00 PM: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: hot-babe Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Sep 20 02:41:17 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : MonitoringSource RPM: (none) Size: 512329 License: GPL Packager: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://dindinx.net/hotbabe Summary : CPU monitor :-) Description : Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it! --=-=-= * Fri Sep 20 2002 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.1.0-1mdk - first Mandrake release
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Adam Williamson wrote, On 9/19/2002 5:27 PM: On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 21:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... I meant, it's an entirely non-essential package; there's hundreds of tools to monitor your CPU temp in exactly the same fashion without potentially offending some people. Given that situation, there's no reason to include one which *could* be potentially offensive. Good to move it from any official link with the distro then, I agree with that decision. Last I heard, Microsoft found Linux offensive, but I don't see Mandrake shifting over to an MS-approved BSD-based distro. Loosen up, people. It was a contrib, not in the main package group. (We lost the seperation of Church and State in the US. Now we're going to lose it in Linux, too?)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 23:27, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 21:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... I meant, it's an entirely non-essential package; there's hundreds of tools to monitor your CPU temp in exactly the same fashion without potentially offending some people. Given that situation, there's no reason to include one which *could* be potentially offensive. Good to move it from any official link with the distro then, I agree with that decision. I'm happy with that, your honor. Could you please also remove bugsquish which hurts my animist religious conceptions, bzflag as proning military violence is certainly more questionable than any drawn young female, defenguin and xbill that M. Gates could find offensive, Apache for obvious racist reasons, xscreensaver which is an insult to any epileptic, xsoldier in order to keep good relationship with any alien in the neighbourhood, TuxRacer which posture a noble animal in degrading situation, BitchX, and finally finger as a reminder of an obscene gesture. CU CPHIL -- According to convention there is a sweet and a bitter, a hot and a cold, and according to convention, there is an order. In truth, there are atoms and a void. -- Democritus, 400 B.C.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
LOL! Well Said. Whoever said that package had to leave CONTRIBS shoulda have been shot (But grats to Guillaume for reacting so quickly). Contribs is there for a reason. It's not part of the standard distribution, and god forbid, should you install all 4.7 GB of OS w/ ALL the contribs you might even find this little package on your system. Though I won't be running it on my desktop (given I don't have enough time to be entertained by it), I do think it is a very tastefully done program. NB On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 18:45, Philippe Coulonges wrote: Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 23:27, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 21:44, Guillaume Rousse wrote: I see absolutely *no* need to turn Mandrake into a porn distributor. It could eventually be qualified of bad taste, but not of porn. Have you only had a look at homepage ? Anyway, it has already been wiped out from contribs, and transfered to PLF. And i see absolutly *no* obligation to install it if you don't like it... I meant, it's an entirely non-essential package; there's hundreds of tools to monitor your CPU temp in exactly the same fashion without potentially offending some people. Given that situation, there's no reason to include one which *could* be potentially offensive. Good to move it from any official link with the distro then, I agree with that decision. I'm happy with that, your honor. Could you please also remove bugsquish which hurts my animist religious conceptions, bzflag as proning military violence is certainly more questionable than any drawn young female, defenguin and xbill that M. Gates could find offensive, Apache for obvious racist reasons, xscreensaver which is an insult to any epileptic, xsoldier in order to keep good relationship with any alien in the neighbourhood, TuxRacer which posture a noble animal in degrading situation, BitchX, and finally finger as a reminder of an obscene gesture. CU CPHIL -- According to convention there is a sweet and a bitter, a hot and a cold, and according to convention, there is an order. In truth, there are atoms and a void. -- Democritus, 400 B.C.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 05:23, rcc wrote: On 19 Sep 2002 17:03:18 -0400 there's more (real) skin to be seen in advertising and newspaper booths around here. I would have thought paper was a more appropriate medium _and_ far easier to obtain. (-: Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 06:44, Digital Wokan wrote: While this may not get my grandmother to use Linux, I'll bet it might convince my brother and a couple more friends at work. :) No worries. Grab the RPMS from the main distro, add hot-babe and anything else you like from PLF, and roll your own `Unauthorised Mandrake 9.0'. Kind of like those `UNAUTHORISED BIOGRAPHY' sensationalist books you see from time to time. Remember to donate most of the proceeds to Mandrake, less maybe 10% for the HB author for making your sub-distro possible... Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
Le Jeudi 19 Septembre 2002 23:02, Nelson Bartley a écrit : LOL! Well Said. Whoever said that package had to leave CONTRIBS shoulda have been shot (But grats to Guillaume for reacting so quickly). Contribs is there for a reason. It's not part of the standard distribution, and god forbid, should you install all 4.7 GB of OS w/ ALL the contribs you might even find this little package on your system. Though I won't be running it on my desktop (given I don't have enough time to be entertained by it), I do think it is a very tastefully done program. IMHO, contrib is not for you or me, maybe you don't want to use it, but, someone will looking for it, If I package a soft for me, I always think someone else want it. I was happy in past to find in contrib a unusefull package when I need it. I one and only one other poeple want/can use it, putting it in contrib is a good idea ! Even if the package is use only by two poeple. I will always take time to keep older package in contrib... for historic reason. That's why I ressusite xbill ! But here the problem is the picture... This Bellaminette is very nice when I my computer works a lot. Fortnally, I run seti@home ! Thanks to Guillaume, thanks to Bruno Bellamy. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk
On Fri Sep 20 0:45 +0200, Philippe Coulonges wrote: I'm happy with that, your honor. Could you please also remove bugsquish which hurts my animist religious conceptions, bzflag as proning military violence is certainly more questionable than any drawn young female, defenguin and xbill that M. Gates could find offensive, Apache for obvious racist reasons, xscreensaver which is an insult to any epileptic, xsoldier in order to keep good relationship with any alien in the neighbourhood, TuxRacer which posture a noble animal in degrading situation, BitchX, and finally finger as a reminder of an obscene gesture. This thread from one of the Debian ML's is the classic in this subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg00829.html -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love lies in pools of questions. Linux 2.4.19-9mdk 11:10pm up 1 day, 10:21, 5 users, load average: 0.36, 0.38, 0.36
