Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-27 Thread Eric Fernandez

>
>
>Not exactly: urpmi examines if /mnt/cdrom needs to be mounted. In
>case of supermount, /mnt/cdrom is seens as always mounted. But
>there are performance issues when accessing many files on a
>supermounted cdrom so it's useful to umount it and mount it as a
>plain normal iso9660 filesystem.
>
>  
>
I see. Thanks a lot.
Eric





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Quoting Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The best would be to umount your supermount /mnt/cdrom, mount it
> > by hand, before the addmedia; it should speed up much the then
> > process of extracting package information.
> 
> Right, thanks a lot. I guess you mean that urpmi.addmedia uses supermount to
> mount the CD each time it has to access a new package ? That's a good tip to
> remember. Maybe it would be worth putting it in mandrakeuser.org.

Not exactly: urpmi examines if /mnt/cdrom needs to be mounted. In
case of supermount, /mnt/cdrom is seens as always mounted. But
there are performance issues when accessing many files on a
supermounted cdrom so it's useful to umount it and mount it as a
plain normal iso9660 filesystem.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-27 Thread E . Fernandez

Quoting Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The best would be to umount your supermount /mnt/cdrom, mount it
> by hand, before the addmedia; it should speed up much the then
> process of extracting package information.

Right, thanks a lot. I guess you mean that urpmi.addmedia uses supermount to
mount the CD each time it has to access a new package ? That's a good tip to
remember. Maybe it would be worth putting it in mandrakeuser.org.

Eric




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Thanks.
> As I wrote, it was very long to generate the hdlist with urpmi.addmedia with my
> two full 700Mo CDs. Could I force urpmi.addmedia to generate only a
> synthesis.hdlist.cz file ? Would it be wise to do it for my removable and local
> rpms ? What would be the limitations ?

The best would be to umount your supermount /mnt/cdrom, mount it
by hand, before the addmedia; it should speed up much the then
process of extracting package information.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread E . Fernandez

Quoting Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:22:24 +0100 (BST)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > As I wrote, it was very long to generate the hdlist with
> > urpmi.addmedia with my two full 700Mo CDs. Could I force
> > urpmi.addmedia to generate only a synthesis.hdlist.cz file ? Would
> it
> > be wise to do it for my removable and local rpms ? What would be the
> > limitations ?
> 
> Just use urpmi.addmedia xxx xx with synthesis.hdlist.cz
> 
> Having dsl I only use ftp, no cd or local media, but as long you can
> generate a synthesis for each there is no reason that it cannot be
> used
> for such.
> The only drawback is the obvious with no package describe unless you
> already know there will be nothing to indicates the purpose/usage of
> any
> given rpm listed therein.
> 
> 
> Charles

Thanks for these explanations.
Eric




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:22:24 +0100 (BST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As I wrote, it was very long to generate the hdlist with
> urpmi.addmedia with my two full 700Mo CDs. Could I force
> urpmi.addmedia to generate only a synthesis.hdlist.cz file ? Would it
> be wise to do it for my removable and local rpms ? What would be the
> limitations ?

Just use urpmi.addmedia xxx xx with synthesis.hdlist.cz

Having dsl I only use ftp, no cd or local media, but as long you can
generate a synthesis for each there is no reason that it cannot be used
for such.
The only drawback is the obvious with no package describe unless you
already know there will be nothing to indicates the purpose/usage of any
given rpm listed therein.


Charles

---
The power to destroy a planet is insignificant when compared to the
power of
the Force.
- Darth Vader
--
Charles A Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
 




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread E . Fernandez

Thanks.
As I wrote, it was very long to generate the hdlist with urpmi.addmedia with my
two full 700Mo CDs. Could I force urpmi.addmedia to generate only a
synthesis.hdlist.cz file ? Would it be wise to do it for my removable and local
rpms ? What would be the limitations ?

Eric

Quoting Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:21:09 +0100 (BST)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > BTW : what is the difference between a hdlist.cz file and
> > synthesis.hdlist.cz file 
> 
> synthesis.hdlist contains only pkg name-version make it a much smaller
> dl than hdlist.cz which also contains pkg discribs.
> 
> 
> Charles
> 
> ---
> Real programmers don't comment their code.  It was hard to write, it
> should be hard to understand.
> --
> Charles A Edwards
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:21:09 +0100 (BST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> BTW : what is the difference between a hdlist.cz file and
> synthesis.hdlist.cz file 

synthesis.hdlist contains only pkg name-version make it a much smaller
dl than hdlist.cz which also contains pkg discribs.


Charles

---
Real programmers don't comment their code.  It was hard to write, it
should be hard to understand.
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread E . Fernandez

Mandrakesoft made for us urpmi, one of the best tools for managing rpms. Let's
use it ! I have done these contrib CDs myself :

I have downloaded the entire contrib directory and burned it on 2 CDs (a total
of about 1.1Go !) Then I added as usual :
urpmi.addmedia "Contrib CD1" removable://mnt/cdrom
urpmi.addmedia "Contrib CD2" removable://mnt/cdrom

After a long time (about 20/30 min per CD !) I have a contrib media that allows
me to install a lot of softwares and to solve dependencies with the plf packages
(for example, you need liba52 when installing mplayer).

Of course it would be better to freeze an "official" contrib for 9.0, but this
method works very well, especially since cooker packages are still frozen (even
if some contrib packages have been updated today.)

Another way would be to use urpmi.addmedia Contrib ftp://blabla with
synthesis.hdlist2.cz to have a download by ftp. Since I have just a 56K modem, I
prefered the first solution, downloading the entire contrib directory at my work
and burning it on CD. Moreover, ou are sure to keep one working copy of these
packages until cooker is "defrost" and receives unstable/broken packages for the
next version.

Hope this helps.

BTW : what is the difference between a hdlist.cz file and synthesis.hdlist.cz file ?

Eric

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> I agree, I was very dissapointed when I noticed NONE of the 9.0 ISO's 
> had Abiword on them. I had to upgrade it using cooker packages. 9.0 Disk
> 
> 3 was not even close to full and I'm wondering why more packages didn't
> 
> make it on the CD...many people don't know about the Cooker packages 
> being available and, as stated, as they progress they break 
> compatability with 9.0 anyway. We need a contrib ISO for 9.0 IMHO. 
> Perhaps just call it CD4.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jason
> 
> I miss RPM's 4 on CD3sigh
> 
> P.S. Great work Mandrake team on an awesome distro!!
> 
> David Walser wrote:
> > --- Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
> >>Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>>I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
> >>
> >>to stable later, but 
> >>
> >>>when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
> >>
> >>packages in contribs now? 
> >>
> >>>Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
> >>
> >>thus it just went in 
> >>
> >>>last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> >>>
> >>>Lenny?
> >>
> >>Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
> >>powerpacks. So maybe
> >>we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
> >>not the whole
> >>contribs repository, just some subjective choices...
> > 
> > 
> > That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
> > that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
> > could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
> > actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib? 
> > Just something for us few Cookers?
> > 
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
> > http://sbc.yahoo.com
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread newslett

I agree, I was very dissapointed when I noticed NONE of the 9.0 ISO's 
had Abiword on them. I had to upgrade it using cooker packages. 9.0 Disk 
3 was not even close to full and I'm wondering why more packages didn't 
make it on the CD...many people don't know about the Cooker packages 
being available and, as stated, as they progress they break 
compatability with 9.0 anyway. We need a contrib ISO for 9.0 IMHO. 
Perhaps just call it CD4.

Cheers,

Jason

I miss RPM's 4 on CD3sigh

P.S. Great work Mandrake team on an awesome distro!!

David Walser wrote:
> --- Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
>>Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
>>
>>to stable later, but 
>>
>>>when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
>>
>>packages in contribs now? 
>>
>>>Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
>>
>>thus it just went in 
>>
>>>last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
>>>
>>>Lenny?
>>
>>Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
>>powerpacks. So maybe
>>we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
>>not the whole
>>contribs repository, just some subjective choices...
> 
> 
> That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
> that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
> could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
> actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib? 
> Just something for us few Cookers?
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
> http://sbc.yahoo.com
> 





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Leon Brooks

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:27, Stéphane Teletchéa wrote:
> Even if i was a member, i still have a modem connection ...

Think of all of the 3rd and 4th world countries where they have to download by 
hand-transcribing morse over long lengths of barbed wire. (-:

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Leon Brooks

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:32, Biagio Lucini wrote:
> A modified installer perhaps is a bit of work. But if one could add the
> extra CD to the rpmdrake source list, then for upgrading is just matter of
>
> rpm -F *
>
> afterwards, while for installing new things you cold use rpmdrake...

Problem is, everything covered only by the extra CD(s) would break during 
upgrade using only the standard CDs, would have to cross all appendages etc 
and hope that the rpm -F actually fixed up the damage.

I'm not sure what an upgrade actually does with an existing RPM database, just 
works with it as-is or uses it as a package list and then discards it.

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Biagio Lucini

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Leon Brooks wrote:

> I'm happy to throw an RPM collection together from my existing archives but I 
> have (1) nowhere suitable to host it and (2) insufficient time to modify an 
> installer to take it into account (you would *have* to at least boot from it 
> and invoke a modified installer that knew about the extra CD/CDs).
> 
> A general mechanism to allow `extension' or `bonus' CDs (including those not 
> from Mandrake, with an appropriate warning about mileage and variation) 
> during an install would be a fine addition to the installer, as would be the 
> ability to present a CD full of updates up front.
> 

A modified installer perhaps is a bit of work. But if one could add the
extra CD to the rpmdrake source list, then for upgrading is just matter of

rpm -F *

afterwards, while for installing new things you cold use rpmdrake...

Biagio





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa

Even if i was a member, i still have a modem connection ...

Stef

Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 12:15, David Barker a écrit :
> Maybe it's something else that can be provided as a urpmi source to the
> club members?. . .
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux-
> > mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Eric Fernandez
> > Sent: 26 September 2002 09:41
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)
> >
> > Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as
> > separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution
> > directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it
> > will be available in the 9.0 directory ?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> > >This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp
>
> too
>
> > !
> >
> > >What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How
>
> can
>
> > we'll
> >
> > >install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ?
> > >
> > >Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
> > >>Hi
> > >>
> > >>I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
> > >>
> > >>One question though, on the following page:
> > >>   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> > >>it says the download edition has 4 CDs
> > >>
> > >>The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> > >>(contrib)" one.
> > >>Is it gonna be made available later?
> > >>
> > >>/Fred




RE: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread David Barker

Maybe it's something else that can be provided as a urpmi source to the
club members?. . . 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux-
> mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Eric Fernandez
> Sent: 26 September 2002 09:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)
> 
> Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as
> separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution
> directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it
> will be available in the 9.0 directory ?
> 
> Eric
> 
> Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> 
> >This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp
too
> !
> >
> >What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How
can
> we'll
> >install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ?
> >
> >
> >Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
> >
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
> >>
> >>One question though, on the following page:
> >>   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> >>it says the download edition has 4 CDs
> >>
> >>The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> >>(contrib)" one.
> >>Is it gonna be made available later?
> >>
> >>/Fred
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >






Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Leon Brooks

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:03, Lenny Cartier wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
>> I presume the contrib tree will be copied across to stable later, but
>> when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to packages in contribs now?
>> Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling, thus it just went in
>> last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?

>> Lenny?

> Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for powerpacks. So maybe
> we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's not the whole
> contribs repository, just some subjective choices...

It would be a very bright idea to at least carry across descendents of the 
stuff from Mandrake 8.2's RPMS4 directory, plus packages which were culled 
between 8.2 and 9.0 so that people upgrading have the option of continuing to 
use their existing, installed, working software.

And warn people using 8.2 that they will lose those things if they don't use 
such an extra ISO.

I'm happy to throw an RPM collection together from my existing archives but I 
have (1) nowhere suitable to host it and (2) insufficient time to modify an 
installer to take it into account (you would *have* to at least boot from it 
and invoke a modified installer that knew about the extra CD/CDs).

A general mechanism to allow `extension' or `bonus' CDs (including those not 
from Mandrake, with an appropriate warning about mileage and variation) 
during an install would be a fine addition to the installer, as would be the 
ability to present a CD full of updates up front.

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread John Allen

On Thursday 26 September 2002 14:09, David Walser wrote:
> --- Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
> >

Well anybody in Dublin/Ireland who wants a DVD with MDK 9.0, Contribs, the PLF 
files, and NVidia accelerated drivers can just drop me a line.

> > Milne wrote:
> > > I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
> >
> > to stable later, but
> >
> > > when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
> >
> > packages in contribs now?
> >
> > > Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
> >
> > thus it just went in
> >
> > > last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> > >
> > > Lenny?
> >
> > Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
> > powerpacks. So maybe
> > we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
> > not the whole
> > contribs repository, just some subjective choices...
>
> That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
> that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
> could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
> actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib?
> Just something for us few Cookers?
>
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
> http://sbc.yahoo.com

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa

Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 15:03, Lenny Cartier a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > I presume the contrib tree will be copied across to stable later, but
> > when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to packages in contribs now?
> > Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling, thus it just went in
> > last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> >
> > Lenny?
>
> Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for powerpacks. So maybe
> we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's not the whole
> contribs repository, just some subjective choices...
>
>   lenny

If i download the whole contrib now, would it be usable with the 9.0 ?

Stef




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Lenny Cartier

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 03:12:44PM +0200, Stéphane Teletchéa wrote:

> If i download the whole contrib now, would it be usable with the 9.0 ?

Since cooker is still frozen, yes.

lenny

-- 
Lenny Cartier   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MandrakeSoft : http://www.mandrakesoft.com 

"Informatique: Excel, Word, chef de projet informatique." (c) Serious resume 




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Oden Eriksson

On torsdagen den 26 september 2002 15.09 David Walser wrote:
> --- Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
> >
> > Milne wrote:
> > > I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
> >
> > to stable later, but
> >
> > > when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
> >
> > packages in contribs now?
> >
> > > Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
> >
> > thus it just went in
> >
> > > last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> > >
> > > Lenny?
> >
> > Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
> > powerpacks. So maybe
> > we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
> > not the whole
> > contribs repository, just some subjective choices...
>
> That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
> that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
> could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
> actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib?
> Just something for us few Cookers?

Hmm..., so what's on these 3 cd:s then?

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread David Walser

--- Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
> Milne wrote:
> > I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
> to stable later, but 
> > when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
> packages in contribs now? 
> > Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
> thus it just went in 
> > last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> > 
> > Lenny?
> 
> Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
> powerpacks. So maybe
> we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
> not the whole
> contribs repository, just some subjective choices...

That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib? 
Just something for us few Cookers?

__
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New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Lenny Cartier

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
> I presume the contrib tree will be copied across to stable later, but 
> when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to packages in contribs now? 
> Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling, thus it just went in 
> last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
> 
> Lenny?

Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for powerpacks. So maybe
we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's not the whole
contribs repository, just some subjective choices...

lenny

-- 
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MandrakeSoft : http://www.mandrakesoft.com 

"Informatique: Excel, Word, chef de projet informatique." (c) Serious resume 




Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread David Walser

--- Eric Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable
> as an iso, but as 

Actually there were contribs on CD3 in 8.1 and 8.2 at
least, stuff like tuxkart and squirrelmail.  It'd be a
shame if no ISO with contrib stuff (at least contrib
stuff that's been in previous versions' ISOs) wasn't
released, because now people are upgrading with those
packages installed, and they're either breaking or
removing them in the process, and they have no ability
to upgrade them.

> separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the
> distribution 
> directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The
> question is if it 
> will be available in the 9.0 directory ?

A 9.0 needs to be cut obviously, because Cooker
Contrib is compiled for Cooker, and eventually that
won't work for 9.0.

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Biagio Lucini

Am I missing something or there was a contrib directory in the 3rd iso of
8.2? It was disguised as RPM4. Now the new isos seem to have just RPM3 on
the third CD. My question is if there will be new isos with RPM3 and RPM4
on the third CD. Or alternatively, if I rebuild the third iso with RPMs
from contrib, how can I make the installer aware of their existence?

Apologise if this is not the appropriate place to ask it, just following
up this thread...

Biagio

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, tarvid wrote:

> There is always contrib from cooker.
> 
> One can tell which packages have garnered attention recently.
> 
> A tally of users reporting success with contrib packages would be useful.
> 
> Jim Tarvid
> 
> On Thursday 26 September 2002 04:40 am, Eric Fernandez wrote:
> > Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as
> > separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution
> > directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it
> > will be available in the 9.0 directory ?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> > >This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp too
> > > !
> > >
> > >What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How can
> > > we'll install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ?
> > >
> > >Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
> > >>Hi
> > >>
> > >>I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
> > >>
> > >>One question though, on the following page:
> > >>   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> > >>it says the download edition has 4 CDs
> > >>
> > >>The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> > >>(contrib)" one.
> > >>Is it gonna be made available later?
> > >>
> > >>/Fred
> 
> 
> 





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread tarvid

There is always contrib from cooker.

One can tell which packages have garnered attention recently.

A tally of users reporting success with contrib packages would be useful.

Jim Tarvid

On Thursday 26 September 2002 04:40 am, Eric Fernandez wrote:
> Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as
> separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution
> directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it
> will be available in the 9.0 directory ?
>
> Eric
>
> Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> >This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp too
> > !
> >
> >What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How can
> > we'll install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ?
> >
> >Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
> >>
> >>One question though, on the following page:
> >>   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> >>it says the download edition has 4 CDs
> >>
> >>The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> >>(contrib)" one.
> >>Is it gonna be made available later?
> >>
> >>/Fred





Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Eric Fernandez

Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable as an iso, but as 
separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the distribution 
directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The question is if it 
will be available in the 9.0 directory ?

Eric

Olivier Thauvin wrote:

>This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp too !
>
>What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How can we'll 
>install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ? 
>
>
>Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
>  
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
>>
>>One question though, on the following page:
>>   http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
>>it says the download edition has 4 CDs
>>
>>The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
>>(contrib)" one.
>>Is it gonna be made available later?
>>
>>/Fred
>>
>>
>
>  
>






Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Olivier Thauvin

This is a good question, but, did you notice there are contrib on ftp too !

What happend with contrib ? Why there are no contrib for 9.0 ? How can we'll 
install contrib for 9.0 in few month, when all will change ? 


Le Jeudi 26 Septembre 2002 07:09, Frederic Soulier a écrit :
> Hi
>
> I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
>
> One question though, on the following page:
>http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> it says the download edition has 4 CDs
>
> The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> (contrib)" one.
> Is it gonna be made available later?
>
> /Fred

-- 
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une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL.
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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread Ben Reser

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 08:09:40AM +0100, Frederic Soulier wrote:
> I'm downloading the 3 ISOs (inst, ext & i18n) right now.
> 
> One question though, on the following page:
>http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/90/comparison
> it says the download edition has 4 CDs
> 
> The missing ISO on the mirrors is the "Supplementatry Applications
> (contrib)" one.
> Is it gonna be made available later?

That's a really good question.  Especially since contrib (while
available via the Mandrake-devel tree) still hasn't been placed in the
Mandrake/9.0 tree on the mirrors.

However, in the past there has only been 3 download CDs but contrib was
available as individual RPMs on the various mirrors.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.