Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0 (PS2)

2001-05-21 Thread Juan Quintela

 robert == Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

robert Why don't you have someone build a kernel without applying
robert patches 486 and patches 507 and see what happens?

robert which one do you think caused it?

robert # Fix PSAUX Waiting for port.
robert Patch486: linux-2.4.3-ac3-psaux-keyboard-wait.patch.bz2

robert # Silence PS/2 code (no keyboard there if there is a USB keyboard)
robert Patch507: linux-2.4.3-ac4-keyboardsilence.patch.bz2

robert Were all the patches listed in the kernel-2.4.spec new to
robert the final 8.0 release?

No.

This problem (and the problem solved by that patch) should be solved
in 2.4.4-1mdk.

Later, Juan.


-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0 (PS2)

2001-04-25 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why don't you have someone build a kernel without applying
 patches 486 and patches 507 and see what happens?

because it bring others problems, we haven't put these patch for no
reason... 




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-24 Thread Michel PRILLOT

Le Mardi 24 Avril 2001 07:39, vous avez écrit :
 On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Pixel wrote:
   Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems people
   have a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but it
   seems to affect many more users generally.
 
  i'm only aware of thinkpad pbs.

 Yes, if u have reviewed the traffic once more in this list you'll
 certainly find that some people have problem detecting their PS/2 mouse
 during install. Have to go for generic mouse first, then switch back to
 PS/2 moue after install. And Aurora too (or did I misunderstand
 anything?)

  the persons taking care of this are
  Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
  Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (poor them)

 Around that period, gc responded to people even more then chmouel do :P

 Abel Cheung

Sure, but problem still exist. During install, system freeze at the start of 
stage2... 

---
The box said  Need Windows 95 or better, so I installed Linux




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Around that period, gc responded to people even more then chmouel do :P
 
 Abel Cheung
 

-- 
Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-24 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Claudio (sekko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


[...]

  You need to install libjpeg62-devel-6b-19mdk.i586.rpm
 
 Ops... Really thanks for this information  :o)
 I must say the error reported by ./configure was not so clear...

Oh well you behave like a newbie now :

*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means IMLIB was incorrectly 

What do you want more? It said you should look in config.log ; it was
clear enough.




-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Sunday 22 April 2001 23:02, you wrote:

  1. How can it be done during installation?

 There will be some update.

  3. If someone is so patient to wait these 4 days, have to manually change
  /etc/modules.conf, rebuild initrd-img and modify lilo... Beginner users
  can do that?

 no, we will do an update..

Do you mean an 8.01 or what?  ;o)

Claudio
---
[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Sunday 22 April 2001 23:02, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:

  I'm not able compiling XINE on my 8.0, for ./configure report that
  imlib is not well configured. Yeah, it's installed, all imlib/libimlib
  from cd1/2 are installed. Moreover, I could compile xine on beta3!!!
  Anyway, the xine+css compiled with beta3 was horrible: many dvd-frames
  where lost, program crashed every 10 seconds, image was build with big
  squares. I did exactly the same procedure with RedHat: same compiler
  (2.96), same xine.tar.gz, same XFree (4.0.3), same machine, same dvd but
  now WORKS! Why?!? I just thought it's a NVidia problem because I read the
  thread about these fu%$£ driver. I downloaded everything from
  crazy-horse (btw, thanks Con!) recompiled .src for smp machine and
  drivers installed OK after XFreeConfig-4, but now I cannot compile
  xine... Oh my God, did I made something bad against you?!? Anyway, it is
  **NOT** a nice procedure for newbye I believe...

 where i can download this program to see the problems.

http://xine.sourceforge.net/

Indeed there is a xine in contrib but it's old and does not support css. It 
would be nice to prepare a xine+css package. Css for xine is available at... 
mmm... I don't remeber now, I got it bookmarked at home! I could send the 
xine_css_pluging URL tonight anyway.

Claudio 
-- 
Nothing's as simple as it seems...

[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Pascal Grossé

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:39:32PM +0200, Claudio wrote:
 So, I really don't know. I like Mandrake since 5.x over all other 
 distributions, but I need to use my hardware!
 Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.
 Xine is old, something other don't work. Even xine won't compile.
 Some tools are missing even selectioning ALL categories during installation, 
 I mean, for example, nslookup and traceroute, pine and so on. I mean: 
 nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$, now I cannot find 
 it in Linux?!?!?!?!?

Simple : /usr/sbin is not included in your path by default (most probably). Try an 
'slocate traceroute'. You should have /usr/sbin/traceroute listed. Same for ping and 
nslookup.

Pascal




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Frederic Crozat

Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 I'm not able compiling XINE on my 8.0, for ./configure report that
 imlib is not well configured. Yeah, it's installed, all imlib/libimlib
 from cd1/2 are installed. Moreover, I could compile xine on beta3!!!
 Anyway, the xine+css compiled with beta3 was horrible: many dvd-frames
 where lost, program crashed every 10 seconds, image was build with big
 squares. I did exactly the same procedure with RedHat: same compiler
 (2.96), same xine.tar.gz, same XFree (4.0.3), same machine, same dvd but
 now WORKS! Why?!? I just thought it's a NVidia problem because I read
 the thread about these fu%$£ driver. I downloaded everything from
 crazy-horse (btw, thanks Con!) recompiled .src for smp machine and
 drivers installed OK after XFreeConfig-4, but now I cannot compile
 xine... Oh my God, did I made something bad against you?!? Anyway, it is
 **NOT** a nice procedure for newbye I believe...

Do you have libimlib1-devel installed ?

And FYI, I'm able to compile xine on 8.0 ...

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Xavier Bertou

 I know where they are, and I installed it in a second moment... Maybe for any 
 unknown reason I deleted bind-utils during package selection?!

I don't think so. As far as I remember my last installation of a 8.0, a
lot of usefull packages were not selected by clicking on all the big
icons for installation, and there was no all packages option. Selecting
all the big icons endend with installing something like 70% of the
packages (I guess), and traceroute and nc were missing (I didn't try ping
or nslookup). Currently, all my boxes that could go to 8.0 are back to
7.2 as there is no libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 in 8.0 (there is a symlink in
egcs-c++ package but it points to nothing).
As usual, never install .0 distribs, wait for a while...




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Frederic Crozat

Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio
(sekko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 On Monday 23 April 2001 10:51, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
  I'm not able compiling XINE on my 8.0, for ./configure report that
 [...]
 Do you have libimlib1-devel installed ?

 And FYI, I'm able to compile xine on 8.0 ...
 
 Here you what happens:
 
 [root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#./configure
 [...]
 checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes checking for
 imlib-config... /usr/bin/imlib-config checking for IMLIB - version =
 1.9.5... no *** Could not run IMLIB test program, checking why... ***
 The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for
 the
 *** exact error that occured. This usually means IMLIB was incorrectly
 installed
 *** or that you have moved IMLIB since it was installed. In the latter
 case, you
 *** may want to edit the imlib-config script: /usr/bin/imlib-config
 configure: error: imlib needed
 [root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#
  
 [root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]# rpm -qa |grep imlib imlib-1.9.10-5mdk
 libimlib1-1.9.10-5mdk
 libimlib1-devel-1.9.10-5mdk
 [root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#

Could you check config.log (as said in configure error message)..

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Claudio (sekko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here you what happens:
 
 [root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#./configure
 [...]

what the output of :

-$ tail -20 config.log 

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Monday 23 April 2001 10:51, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 Dans l'article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
  I'm not able compiling XINE on my 8.0, for ./configure report that
[...]
 Do you have libimlib1-devel installed ?

 And FYI, I'm able to compile xine on 8.0 ...

Here you what happens:

[root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#./configure
[...]
checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes
checking for imlib-config... /usr/bin/imlib-config
checking for IMLIB - version = 1.9.5... no
*** Could not run IMLIB test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for 
the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means IMLIB was incorrectly 
installed
*** or that you have moved IMLIB since it was installed. In the latter case, 
you
*** may want to edit the imlib-config script: /usr/bin/imlib-config
configure: error: imlib needed
[root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#
 
[root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]# rpm -qa |grep imlib
imlib-1.9.10-5mdk
libimlib1-1.9.10-5mdk
libimlib1-devel-1.9.10-5mdk
[root@clag2 xine-0.4.01]#

Any murpy's law for me?  ;o(
Claudio
-- 
Nothing's as simple as it seems...

[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Claudio (sekko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Indeed there is a xine in contrib but it's old and does not support css. It 
 would be nice to prepare a xine+css package. Css for xine is available at... 
 mmm... I don't remeber now, I got it bookmarked at home! I could send the 
 xine_css_pluging URL tonight anyway.

we are not allowed to ship css in the distribution

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Monday 23 April 2001 11:34, Pascal Grossé wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:39:32PM +0200, Claudio wrote:
  So, I really don't know. I like Mandrake since 5.x over all other
  distributions, but I need to use my hardware!
  Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.
  Xine is old, something other don't work. Even xine won't compile.
  Some tools are missing even selectioning ALL categories during
  installation, I mean, for example, nslookup and traceroute, pine and so
  on. I mean: nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$,
  now I cannot find it in Linux?!?!?!?!?

 Simple : /usr/sbin is not included in your path by default (most probably).
 Try an 'slocate traceroute'. You should have /usr/sbin/traceroute listed.
 Same for ping and nslookup.

HeHe... Not so simple  ;o)
I know where they usually are, and they were not there. I search even with 
find, all over the disk... nothing! Anyway I'm quite happy for I'm reading 
that someone else has this same problem. Nothing deadly, but should be 
corrected in 8.1 or 8.01 if possible  ;P

Claudio
-- 
Nothing's as simple as it seems...

[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Frederic Crozat

Le 23 Apr 2001 14:33:21 +0200, Claudio a écrit :
 configure:3573: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include   conftest.c   
   -L/usr/lib -lImlib $/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 configure: failed program was:
 #line 3563 configure
 #include confdefs.h
  
 #include stdio.h
 #include Imlib.h
  
 int main() {
  return 0;
 ; return 0; }


You need to install libjpeg62-devel-6b-19mdk.i586.rpm 


-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Monday 23 April 2001 14:39, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 Le 23 Apr 2001 14:33:21 +0200, Claudio a écrit :
  configure:3573: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include   conftest.c
-L/usr/lib -lImlib $/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  configure: failed program was:
  #line 3563 configure
  #include confdefs.h
 
  #include stdio.h
  #include Imlib.h
 
  int main() {
   return 0;
  ; return 0; }

 You need to install libjpeg62-devel-6b-19mdk.i586.rpm

Ops... Really thanks for this information  :o)
I must say the error reported by ./configure was not so clear...

Claudio




Scanner [WAS: Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0]

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Sunday 22 April 2001 22:28, Marc Schefer wrote:
 Claudio wrote:
  Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.

 I believe that I was the first to report that problem with the Mustek
 12000SP scanner. It seems the SANE mustek backend has some serious
 problems with the 2.4 kernels. The SANE package in cooker/8.0 is working
 fine with the 2.2 kernel.

 I managed to get my scanner working with kernel 2.4 for a while by using
 the latest CVS version of the sane backend, unfortunately it doesn't
 work anymore (probably because I have upgraded the kernel since that).

 Hopefully the next release of SANE will solve those problems, meanwhile
 try using the 2.2 kernel.

I suppose the problem is somewhere else for it works with Rh-7.1 (kernel is 
2.4.2) and the same mustek scanner.  :-o

Claudio
-- 
Nothing's as simple as it seems...

[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




RE: Scanner [WAS: Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0]

2001-04-23 Thread Marcel Pol


On 23-Apr-01 sekko wrote:
  Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.

 I believe that I was the first to report that problem with the Mustek
 12000SP scanner. It seems the SANE mustek backend has some serious
 problems with the 2.4 kernels. The SANE package in cooker/8.0 is
 working fine with the 2.2 kernel.

 I managed to get my scanner working with kernel 2.4 for a while by
 using
 the latest CVS version of the sane backend, unfortunately it doesn't
 work anymore (probably because I have upgraded the kernel since that).

 Hopefully the next release of SANE will solve those problems,
 meanwhile try using the 2.2 kernel.
 
 I suppose the problem is somewhere else for it works with Rh-7.1
 (kernel is  2.4.2) and the same mustek scanner.  :-o

Afaik Redhat uses Sane 1.0.3, just like mdk 7.2
You might like to use that version of sane, and see how that works out.

--
Marcel Pol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

...my cow ate the CDs.





Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Jason Straight

I'm a huge mandrake proponent, love it, and although all my hardware seems to 
work fine a lot of my config files are hand configed. so pretty much any 
kernel with the right options would work for me. What I noticed that put me 
off was when I installed a system yesterday and got a few packages that 
couldn't be installed from CD so I had to skip them. 

kde-pim was one, can't remember the other 2.

Anyway I downloaded from sunet.se, checked the md5's were good, burned the 
ISO's and verfied the ISO against what was on the CD, that also verified 
good.


On Sunday 22 April 2001 08:39, you wrote:
 Well,
 I'm testing Rh-7.1 for some problems I'm having at home with Mdk and my PC.
 Indeed at the moment the differences are:

 TopicsMandrake 8.0Redhat 7.1
 --
 Scanner   NOT working Working
 DVD   NOT working Working
 SCSI sys  NOT working Working
 Network   Working Working
 NVidiaNOT working Working
 Desk Env. Perfect Good
 Programs  Many nice programs  Quite enought

 So, I really don't know. I like Mandrake since 5.x over all other
 distributions, but I need to use my hardware!
 Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.
 Xine is old, something other don't work. Even xine won't compile.
 Some tools are missing even selectioning ALL categories during
 installation, I mean, for example, nslookup and traceroute, pine and so on.
 I mean: nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$, now I
 cannot find it in Linux?!?!?!?!?
 XcdRoast (ok, even if only root can use it, it's always better than
 nothing!) is not in the distribution and gcombust is in the second cd...
 Moreover, people with aic scsi subsystem cannot install Mdk-8.0 on their
 machine (I had to use my dvd for installation...), and I suppose that 90%
 of scsi controllers are aic controllers.
 NVidia drivers and Pine are not included in distribution for their license.
 OK, why then do you release Netscape? Should be coherent with it.
 So... when 8.1?  ;(

   Claudio

 PS) Sorry, I know you made a great work. But I was waiting since 3 months
 for something that now is not usable at 100% but... let's say at 60%. How
 many people are in this conditions?!?

-- 
Jason Straight




Re: Scanner [WAS: Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0]

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Monday 23 April 2001 16:40, Marcel Pol wrote:
 On 23-Apr-01 sekko wrote:
   Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.
 
  I believe that I was the first to report that problem with the Mustek
  12000SP scanner. It seems the SANE mustek backend has some serious
  problems with the 2.4 kernels. The SANE package in cooker/8.0 is
  working fine with the 2.2 kernel.
 
  I managed to get my scanner working with kernel 2.4 for a while by
  using
  the latest CVS version of the sane backend, unfortunately it doesn't
  work anymore (probably because I have upgraded the kernel since that).
 
  Hopefully the next release of SANE will solve those problems,
  meanwhile try using the 2.2 kernel.
 
  I suppose the problem is somewhere else for it works with Rh-7.1
  (kernel is  2.4.2) and the same mustek scanner.  :-o

 Afaik Redhat uses Sane 1.0.3, just like mdk 7.2
 You might like to use that version of sane, and see how that works out.

Yeah, I did it and it worked. I reported it for I do not believe that it's 
kernel-24/mustek_backend issue, if it works with 2.4.2 why should not work 
with 2.4.3?  ;)

Claudio
-- 
Nothing's as simple as it seems...

[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Xavier Bertou

 I know where they usually are, and they were not there. I search even with 
 find, all over the disk... nothing! Anyway I'm quite happy for I'm reading 
 that someone else has this same problem. Nothing deadly, but should be 
 corrected in 8.1 or 8.01 if possible  ;P

Yes, doing a simple install selecting every box possible but not going
into individual package selection, one ends up with a distribution in
which a few things that should be here are missing:
- elm/mutt/pine (the mail readers used by most of the Unix using people I
  know)
- telnet
- traceroute
- ntp
Then, there are also a few packages that could be nice to see:
- minicom
- dump
- lsof
- tcpdump
- nc
- finger
- xfig
Of course, it is still possible to install them afterwards, but when you
select everything in the installation phase, there are a few things you
expect to have (in particular things such as telnet!!!).
Anyway, a Install all packages button would be nice.
BTW, the install didn't keep my network configuration, I had to do it
again. Maybe because I have no DNS or gateway? (private 192.168.1.x LAN).
Cheers,
-- 
Xavier




RE: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Robert Nicholson

Has anybody figured out what code disabled the PS/2 mice on Thinkpads in
8.0?

I can report that the kernel as shipped with 8.0 doesn't detect the PS/2
mouse on Thinkpads and that a kernel compiled from the source rpm's that
shipped with Mandrake won't either but that if you grab the latest 2.4.3
sources and compiled from there you'll get a mouse detected no problem.

...

Folks have been reporting that RC1 worked with Thinkpads so some patches
occured b/w RC1 and 8 that caused the PS/2 mice no longer to be supported by
the kernel. I noticed there was some disabled PS/2 keyboard code in a recent
April 16 commit notice. But otherwise I haven't investigated it any further.

Does anybody have the autoconf.h that it used to configure the kernel that's
shipped with Mandrake? I'd like to try it with the 2.4.3 source because I've
got a couple of Failed's at bootup even though I have a working mouse and
I'd like to see the Alsa stuff and how that was setup too.

Cheers.





RE: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Robert Nicholson wrote:

 Has anybody figured out what code disabled the PS/2 mice on Thinkpads in
 8.0?

GC? Here?

Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems people have
a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but it seems to
affect many more users generally.

Abel Cheung





Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Pixel

R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Robert Nicholson wrote:
 
  Has anybody figured out what code disabled the PS/2 mice on Thinkpads in
  8.0?
 
 GC? Here?
 
 Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems people have
 a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but it seems to
 affect many more users generally.

i'm only aware of thinkpad pbs. 

the persons taking care of this are
Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(poor them)





RE: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Robert Nicholson

Good luck to them. The trick will be figuring out which patch broke
everything. A clear 2.4.3 tarball compiles with mouse support fine on my
Thinkpad ...

However, Is it possible to emulate the kernel configuration with those
sources? Can I just get the autoconf.h and basically build a working kernel
for my machine?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Guillaume Cottenceau
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0


 R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Robert Nicholson wrote:
 
   Has anybody figured out what code disabled the PS/2 mice on
 Thinkpads in
   8.0?
 
  GC? Here?
 
  Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems
 people have
  a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but
 it seems to
  affect many more users generally.

 i'm only aware of thinkpad pbs.

 the persons taking care of this are
 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (poor them)







Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Pixel wrote:

  Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems people have
  a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but it seems to
  affect many more users generally.
 i'm only aware of thinkpad pbs.

Yes, if u have reviewed the traffic once more in this list you'll
certainly find that some people have problem detecting their PS/2 mouse
during install. Have to go for generic mouse first, then switch back to
PS/2 moue after install. And Aurora too (or did I misunderstand
anything?)

 the persons taking care of this are
 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (poor them)

Around that period, gc responded to people even more then chmouel do :P

Abel Cheung





Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread sekko

On Monday 23 April 2001 12:12, Frederic Crozat wrote:

 Could you check config.log (as said in configure error message)..

tail -20 config.log report

  printf(*** to point to the correct copy of imlib-config, and remove 
the file\n);
  printf(*** config.cache before re-running configure\n);
  return 1;
}
}
 
 
configure:3573: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include   conftest.c 
  -L/usr/lib -lImlib $/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 3563 configure
#include confdefs.h
 
#include stdio.h
#include Imlib.h
 
int main() {
 return 0;
; return 0; }


Cannot understand very well  ;(

Claudio

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[root@monster root]# echo hello world
[root@monster root]# Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@monster root]# Kernel Panic! - System is halted...
power down




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Claudio (sekko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 configure:3573: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include   conftest.c   
   -L/usr/lib -lImlib $/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg

install the libjpeg62-devel-6b-19mdk, i believe there is a missing
require on imlib-devel.

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  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0 (PS2)

2001-04-23 Thread Michel PRILLOT

Le Lundi 23 Avril 2001 22:13, vous avez écrit :
 R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Robert Nicholson wrote:
   Has anybody figured out what code disabled the PS/2 mice on Thinkpads
   in 8.0?
 
  GC? Here?
 
  Sorry that your holiday is disturbed like this :) , but seems people have
  a hard time with their PS/2 mice. Not only thinkpad users, but it seems
  to affect many more users generally.

 i'm only aware of thinkpad pbs.

 the persons taking care of this are
 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 Philipp Rumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (poor them)

This occurs too at the time of install on the Proliant 19xx  serie !
but only at this time I use 8.0 on a 1850R but I made the install
on a 3000 and put the fresh installed disk in the 1850 and ALL is right !!

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Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 --
 Scanner   NOT working Working
 DVD   NOT working Working
 SCSI sys  NOT working Working

What do you mean by Working and Not working, how does it work on Red
Hat ? out of the box ?

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  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Francisco Alcaraz

Claudio,
I don't use RedHat, but now I have MDK 8 installed in both, my big box linux 
and my Toshiba laptop; I don't have SCSI neither NVdia (I think the 
commercial distribution includes the NVdia drivers, but if not, it is easy to 
download them from Time page); on the other hand:

Scanner: detected but not working, just create in my case mknod 
usbscanner0 and works fine (Epson 1200 Perfection USB)
Network: cable modem installed fine.
Network: ip mask well done, my laptop is conected to the big box (Pentium 
III) and I have both computers using the cable mdem and the internet 
conexion great! and easy.
DVD: working well; just there seems kernel 2.4.3. has a problem to xv, but I 
can watch dvd movies, using it as cdrom and so on. You could try with a xine 
rpm, the problems to compile could be because you need some libs or compiler 
packages.

The Mandrake control center and rpm manager working great, I was afraid 
because in the betas they didn't :-)

Perhaps you need some help to install some of your hardware, I am sure the 
mandrake team will be very glad to help you and improve with this experience 
the distribution.

Have a nice day

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)


El Dom 22 Abr 2001 08:39, escribiste:
 Well,
 I'm testing Rh-7.1 for some problems I'm having at home with Mdk and my PC.
 Indeed at the moment the differences are:

 TopicsMandrake 8.0Redhat 7.1
 --
 Scanner   NOT working Working
 DVD   NOT working Working
 SCSI sys  NOT working Working
 Network   Working Working
 NVidiaNOT working Working
 Desk Env. Perfect Good
 Programs  Many nice programs  Quite enought

 So, I really don't know. I like Mandrake since 5.x over all other
 distributions, but I need to use my hardware!
 Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.
 Xine is old, something other don't work. Even xine won't compile.
 Some tools are missing even selectioning ALL categories during
 installation, I mean, for example, nslookup and traceroute, pine and so on.
 I mean: nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$, now I
 cannot find it in Linux?!?!?!?!?
 XcdRoast (ok, even if only root can use it, it's always better than
 nothing!) is not in the distribution and gcombust is in the second cd...
 Moreover, people with aic scsi subsystem cannot install Mdk-8.0 on their
 machine (I had to use my dvd for installation...), and I suppose that 90%
 of scsi controllers are "aic" controllers.
 NVidia drivers and Pine are not included in distribution for their license.
 OK, why then do you release Netscape? Should be coherent with it.
 So... when 8.1?  ;(

   Claudio

 PS) Sorry, I know you made a great work. But I was waiting since 3 months
 for something that now is not usable at 100% but... let's say at 60%. How
 many people are in this conditions?!?




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Scanner: detected but not working, just create in my case mknod 
 usbscanner0 and works fine (Epson 1200 Perfection USB)

what if you do ln -s usb/scanner0 /dev/usbscanner0, does it works ?

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  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Claudio am Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:39:32PM +0200:
 nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$, now I cannot find 
 it in Linux?!?!?!?!?

Are you sure that they are not installed?  nslookup is in the bind-utils
package, traceroute is in its own package (and only executable by root) and
ping is in the iputils package - all there.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Jon Miller

I too have been having problems with the new Mandrake.
 When I do a clean install it hangs during boot at
finding module dependencies, once I do a ctrl+c it
resumes boot, once booted I look in the /boot
directory only to find nothing, absolutely nothing. 
Something is not right.  Red Hat 7.1 works fine
though, imagine that?  I am not even runnning any
funky hardware except a USB print and scanner.


--- Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well,
 I'm testing Rh-7.1 for some problems I'm having at
 home with Mdk and my PC. 
 Indeed at the moment the differences are:
 
 TopicsMandrake 8.0Redhat 7.1
 --
 Scanner   NOT working Working
 DVD   NOT working Working
 SCSI sys  NOT working Working
 Network   Working Working
 NVidiaNOT working Working
 Desk Env. Perfect Good
 Programs  Many nice programs  Quite enought
 
 So, I really don't know. I like Mandrake since 5.x
 over all other 
 distributions, but I need to use my hardware!
 Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It
 was ignored.
 Xine is old, something other don't work. Even xine
 won't compile.
 Some tools are missing even selectioning ALL
 categories during installation, 
 I mean, for example, nslookup and traceroute, pine
 and so on. I mean: 
 nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in
 Window$, now I cannot find 
 it in Linux?!?!?!?!?
 XcdRoast (ok, even if only root can use it, it's
 always better than nothing!) 
 is not in the distribution and gcombust is in the
 second cd...
 Moreover, people with aic scsi subsystem cannot
 install Mdk-8.0 on their 
 machine (I had to use my dvd for installation...),
 and I suppose that 90% of 
 scsi controllers are "aic" controllers.
 NVidia drivers and Pine are not included in
 distribution for their license. 
 OK, why then do you release Netscape? Should be
 coherent with it.
 So... when 8.1?  ;(
 
   Claudio
 
 PS) Sorry, I know you made a great work. But I was
 waiting since 3 months for 
 something that now is not usable at 100% but...
 let's say at 60%. How many 
 people are in this conditions?!?
 
 -- 
 System is: Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Kernel 2.4.3
 Dual CPU - 256 MB
 Raid Software - Level 1
 


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Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Claudio

On Sunday 22 April 2001 18:55, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach Claudio am Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 02:39:32PM +0200:
  nslookup, traceroute and ping are even present in Window$, now I cannot
  find it in Linux?!?!?!?!?

 Are you sure that they are not installed?  nslookup is in the bind-utils
 package, traceroute is in its own package (and only executable by root) and
 ping is in the iputils package - all there.

I know where they are, and I installed it in a second moment... Maybe for any 
unknown reason I deleted bind-utils during package selection?! I'll check 
better in my next installation at University. SIGH CANNOT USE 8.0 AT HOME :(

Claudio
-- 
Linux System on Dual Pentium III 800 MHz
Kernel 2.4.x  - 256 MB
Software RAID level 1




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Claudio

On Sunday 22 April 2001 16:31, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
 Francisco Alcaraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Scanner: detected but not working, just create in my case mknod
  usbscanner0 and works fine (Epson 1200 Perfection USB)

 what if you do ln -s usb/scanner0 /dev/usbscanner0, does it works ?

Well,
I got a scsi scanner. It is detected by sane, when I try scanning any images, 
application (sane/xsane) crashes reporting "Device is busy" just after few 
second. I worked perfectly with mdk-7.2, and I read of someone who had the 
same problem and solved it downloading latest CVS sane tree. It was reported 
almost twice before 8.0... OK, I can install sane from 7.2, but it's 
taedious. I will do that, since I prefer use rpm rather than cvs!

Claudio
-- 
Linux System on Dual Pentium III 800 MHz
Kernel 2.4.x  - 256 MB
Software RAID level 1




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Marc Schefer

Claudio wrote:
 Me and other talked about the scanner problem. It was ignored.

I believe that I was the first to report that problem with the Mustek
12000SP scanner. It seems the SANE mustek backend has some serious
problems with the 2.4 kernels. The SANE package in cooker/8.0 is working
fine with the 2.2 kernel.

I managed to get my scanner working with kernel 2.4 for a while by using
the latest CVS version of the sane backend, unfortunately it doesn't
work anymore (probably because I have upgraded the kernel since that).

Hopefully the next release of SANE will solve those problems, meanwhile
try using the 2.2 kernel.

-- 
Marc Schefer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] Redhat-7.1 vs Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-22 Thread Sergio P.Korlowsky

On Sunday 22 April 2001 16:02, you wrote:
 Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I mean that now I'm using that horrible Redhat (I HATE IT! IT'S NOT
  FRIENDLY, IT POOR, IT'S. NOT MANDRAKE!). I running rh at home for now
  I can compile xine+css and it works, sane works, scsi subsystem works.
  I saw that many people where crying here (I was the first yesterday!) for
  we have to subsystitute aic7xxx with aic7xxx_old module, anyway

 this is a problem we going to take care soon, actually to fix this i
 need such cards :-(.

  1. How can it be done during installation?

 There will be some update.

  3. If someone is so patient to wait these 4 days, have to manually change
  /etc/modules.conf, rebuild initrd-img and modify lilo... Beginner users
  can do that?

 no, we will do an update..


Then I will wait for the update   ;-)

I tried installing staroffice 5.2 using my scsi drive lastnight, it was 
HORRIBLE..!!!   It took for ever... 
sk