[Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Moseley Exchange
Hi there...

we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
instead of creating another one?

James Rock

On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)

 We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most people
 doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.

 If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the 
 #coworkingtalk hashtag.

 Let's go?

 Abs,

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[Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Jeannine
Hiya, Spike,

I think that's true, When I started on listservs nobody could do
anything to their account without a helpful admin.  Mostly the mods
couldn't do diddly when it came to accounts.  We couldn't change
notification settings without an act of Congress, either -- the notion
of setting your account so that you didn't get email notification or
only got it once a day was not an option that came up.

Though my recollection is also that back in the day, by the time it
reached the point that somebody posted a get me off this list it was
more in the nature of a protest action, having sent multiple emails or
PMs to the admins who did not respond.  But thank heaven for the do it
yourself era, it has saved me a lot of time.

I also think that as these things have changed, our notions of what is
and is not private has changed, as has (as you rightly say) what is
and is not the role of an admin.  I know a number of people who
consider offlist contact annoying and/or inconvenient.  Particularly
the ones whose problem is that they are getting too many emails.  I
contacted a woman to let her know that she could either turn them off
altogether or just get one a day or one a week or whatever she liked
and was the recipient of a rather unpleasant return email suggesting
my IQ was lower than room temperature as I responded to her problem of
too many emails by sending her an email.  She was not incorrect, I
just didn't see it that way.

I expect that in this case, somebody not-an-admin saw the problem
first and suggested a solution in the easiest way possible -- by
responding as the request was made.  It's a worldwide list and not
everybody is in the same time zone.  Sometimes you have to wait for
the nearest admin to wake up. :-)

Happily, unhelpful ridicule has not been much of a problem on this
particular list, the couple times it has come up it has been pretty
effectively sat upon thus far.   The biggest problem in my mind is
autoresponders when folks go on vacation and they are mildly annoying
and mostly sort of funny.

Laters,

Jeannine
On Feb 17, 5:31 am, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.uk wrote:
 Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over
 the years.

 In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a please get me off this
 list one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual
 *off list*.

 These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all
 the other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another
 Google Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was
 subjected to a torrent of unhelpful ridicule from other members.

 This Google Group has over 3000 subscribers and five admins - could one
 of them not have contacted the person concerned - off-list - and dealt
 with it privately.

 This change in the way that list moms see their role does not confine
 itself to this Google Group, I'm seeing it more and more in other places
 too.

 Spike







 Tara Hunt wrote:
  Sheila,

  This is google groups...you can remove yourself...please see the
  signature line below every email.

  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, sheila sookram
  sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com mailto:sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

      please remove this email from this group it is overloading my
      account...
      Sheila

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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Tara Hunt
And I apologize if I came off as flippant...but we don't add people to these
groups, they add themselves. And, well, I've been 'admin' (and there are
multiple, but I'm the only one that ever goes in and approves messages) for
nearly 5 years now - and I run a company and have a life and I've never been
paid (In fact, I've put tens of thousands of my own money into this
movement). So if I get a little annoyed that someone who ADDED THEMSELVES
MANUALLY to this group won't remove themselves in the same fashion, I think
I'm justified.

But go ahead and anyone take over the admin of this list from me that wants
to clean out spam daily, send emails to people who aren't spammers, but are
big self-promoters that they need to change their message before approved
EVERY DAY, approve people asap in whatever time zone you are in multiple
times every day so they don't resend and resend and resend the same message
until there are dozens in the cue. And you'll do it quietly and nobody will
know you have dedicated yourself to this until...one day you say to one
person that they can remove themselves thank you very much.

I really don't need justification for asking someone to DIY and figure it
out themselves. It isn't a simple 2 second thing for me to go and remove
someone from the list (google makes this complicated). For them, it is a
simple CLICK. One. Single. Click.

Tara


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Jeannine flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hiya, Spike,

 I think that's true, When I started on listservs nobody could do
 anything to their account without a helpful admin.  Mostly the mods
 couldn't do diddly when it came to accounts.  We couldn't change
 notification settings without an act of Congress, either -- the notion
 of setting your account so that you didn't get email notification or
 only got it once a day was not an option that came up.

 Though my recollection is also that back in the day, by the time it
 reached the point that somebody posted a get me off this list it was
 more in the nature of a protest action, having sent multiple emails or
 PMs to the admins who did not respond.  But thank heaven for the do it
 yourself era, it has saved me a lot of time.

 I also think that as these things have changed, our notions of what is
 and is not private has changed, as has (as you rightly say) what is
 and is not the role of an admin.  I know a number of people who
 consider offlist contact annoying and/or inconvenient.  Particularly
 the ones whose problem is that they are getting too many emails.  I
 contacted a woman to let her know that she could either turn them off
 altogether or just get one a day or one a week or whatever she liked
 and was the recipient of a rather unpleasant return email suggesting
 my IQ was lower than room temperature as I responded to her problem of
 too many emails by sending her an email.  She was not incorrect, I
 just didn't see it that way.

 I expect that in this case, somebody not-an-admin saw the problem
 first and suggested a solution in the easiest way possible -- by
 responding as the request was made.  It's a worldwide list and not
 everybody is in the same time zone.  Sometimes you have to wait for
 the nearest admin to wake up. :-)

 Happily, unhelpful ridicule has not been much of a problem on this
 particular list, the couple times it has come up it has been pretty
 effectively sat upon thus far.   The biggest problem in my mind is
 autoresponders when folks go on vacation and they are mildly annoying
 and mostly sort of funny.

 Laters,

 Jeannine
 On Feb 17, 5:31 am, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.uk wrote:
  Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over
  the years.
 
  In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a please get me off this
  list one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual
  *off list*.
 
  These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all
  the other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another
  Google Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was
  subjected to a torrent of unhelpful ridicule from other members.
 
  This Google Group has over 3000 subscribers and five admins - could one
  of them not have contacted the person concerned - off-list - and dealt
  with it privately.
 
  This change in the way that list moms see their role does not confine
  itself to this Google Group, I'm seeing it more and more in other places
  too.
 
  Spike
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Tara Hunt wrote:
   Sheila,
 
   This is google groups...you can remove yourself...please see the
   signature line below every email.
 
   On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, sheila sookram
   sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com mailto:sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
 
   please remove this email from this group it is overloading my
   account...
   Sheila

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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
Agitation aside, I think the important part of this message is that *Tara
needs some help moderating the queue. *

Can I get a couple of volunteers to add to the moderator panel, to alleviate
some of the pain?

I'll be happy to work with them to get them up to speed on how moderation
works on this list.

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tara Hunt t...@shwowp.com wrote:

 And I apologize if I came off as flippant...but we don't add people to
 these groups, they add themselves. And, well, I've been 'admin' (and there
 are multiple, but I'm the only one that ever goes in and approves messages)
 for nearly 5 years now - and I run a company and have a life and I've never
 been paid (In fact, I've put tens of thousands of my own money into this
 movement). So if I get a little annoyed that someone who ADDED THEMSELVES
 MANUALLY to this group won't remove themselves in the same fashion, I think
 I'm justified.

 But go ahead and anyone take over the admin of this list from me that wants
 to clean out spam daily, send emails to people who aren't spammers, but are
 big self-promoters that they need to change their message before approved
 EVERY DAY, approve people asap in whatever time zone you are in multiple
 times every day so they don't resend and resend and resend the same message
 until there are dozens in the cue. And you'll do it quietly and nobody will
 know you have dedicated yourself to this until...one day you say to one
 person that they can remove themselves thank you very much.

 I really don't need justification for asking someone to DIY and figure it
 out themselves. It isn't a simple 2 second thing for me to go and remove
 someone from the list (google makes this complicated). For them, it is a
 simple CLICK. One. Single. Click.

 Tara


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Jeannine flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hiya, Spike,

 I think that's true, When I started on listservs nobody could do
 anything to their account without a helpful admin.  Mostly the mods
 couldn't do diddly when it came to accounts.  We couldn't change
 notification settings without an act of Congress, either -- the notion
 of setting your account so that you didn't get email notification or
 only got it once a day was not an option that came up.

 Though my recollection is also that back in the day, by the time it
 reached the point that somebody posted a get me off this list it was
 more in the nature of a protest action, having sent multiple emails or
 PMs to the admins who did not respond.  But thank heaven for the do it
 yourself era, it has saved me a lot of time.

 I also think that as these things have changed, our notions of what is
 and is not private has changed, as has (as you rightly say) what is
 and is not the role of an admin.  I know a number of people who
 consider offlist contact annoying and/or inconvenient.  Particularly
 the ones whose problem is that they are getting too many emails.  I
 contacted a woman to let her know that she could either turn them off
 altogether or just get one a day or one a week or whatever she liked
 and was the recipient of a rather unpleasant return email suggesting
 my IQ was lower than room temperature as I responded to her problem of
 too many emails by sending her an email.  She was not incorrect, I
 just didn't see it that way.

 I expect that in this case, somebody not-an-admin saw the problem
 first and suggested a solution in the easiest way possible -- by
 responding as the request was made.  It's a worldwide list and not
 everybody is in the same time zone.  Sometimes you have to wait for
 the nearest admin to wake up. :-)

 Happily, unhelpful ridicule has not been much of a problem on this
 particular list, the couple times it has come up it has been pretty
 effectively sat upon thus far.   The biggest problem in my mind is
 autoresponders when folks go on vacation and they are mildly annoying
 and mostly sort of funny.

 Laters,

 Jeannine
 On Feb 17, 5:31 am, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.uk wrote:
  Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over
  the years.
 
  In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a please get me off this
  list one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual
  *off list*.
 
  These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all
  the other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another
  Google Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was
  subjected to a torrent of unhelpful ridicule from other members.
 
  This Google Group has over 3000 subscribers and five admins - could one
  of them not have contacted the person concerned - off-list - and dealt
  with it privately.
 
  This change in the way that list moms see their role does not confine
  itself to this Google Group, I'm seeing it more and more in other places
  too.
 
  Spike
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Tara Hunt wrote:
   Sheila,
 
   This is 

Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Tara Hunt
As Alex pointed out to me privately, I came across as a royal bitch. Not
usually who I am. I'm under loads of stress these days and I didn't need to
air it on this list. Y'all are cool.

Thanks for the call-out for help. Yes. I'd like to take this off my plate. I
should have asked before I flipped out.

Tara

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Agitation aside, I think the important part of this message is that *Tara
 needs some help moderating the queue. *

 Can I get a couple of volunteers to add to the moderator panel, to
 alleviate some of the pain?

 I'll be happy to work with them to get them up to speed on how moderation
 works on this list.

 -Alex

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tara Hunt t...@shwowp.com wrote:

  And I apologize if I came off as flippant...but we don't add people to
 these groups, they add themselves. And, well, I've been 'admin' (and there
 are multiple, but I'm the only one that ever goes in and approves messages)
 for nearly 5 years now - and I run a company and have a life and I've never
 been paid (In fact, I've put tens of thousands of my own money into this
 movement). So if I get a little annoyed that someone who ADDED THEMSELVES
 MANUALLY to this group won't remove themselves in the same fashion, I think
 I'm justified.

 But go ahead and anyone take over the admin of this list from me that
 wants to clean out spam daily, send emails to people who aren't spammers,
 but are big self-promoters that they need to change their message before
 approved EVERY DAY, approve people asap in whatever time zone you are in
 multiple times every day so they don't resend and resend and resend the same
 message until there are dozens in the cue. And you'll do it quietly and
 nobody will know you have dedicated yourself to this until...one day you say
 to one person that they can remove themselves thank you very much.

 I really don't need justification for asking someone to DIY and figure it
 out themselves. It isn't a simple 2 second thing for me to go and remove
 someone from the list (google makes this complicated). For them, it is a
 simple CLICK. One. Single. Click.

 Tara


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Jeannine 
 flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hiya, Spike,

 I think that's true, When I started on listservs nobody could do
 anything to their account without a helpful admin.  Mostly the mods
 couldn't do diddly when it came to accounts.  We couldn't change
 notification settings without an act of Congress, either -- the notion
 of setting your account so that you didn't get email notification or
 only got it once a day was not an option that came up.

 Though my recollection is also that back in the day, by the time it
 reached the point that somebody posted a get me off this list it was
 more in the nature of a protest action, having sent multiple emails or
 PMs to the admins who did not respond.  But thank heaven for the do it
 yourself era, it has saved me a lot of time.

 I also think that as these things have changed, our notions of what is
 and is not private has changed, as has (as you rightly say) what is
 and is not the role of an admin.  I know a number of people who
 consider offlist contact annoying and/or inconvenient.  Particularly
 the ones whose problem is that they are getting too many emails.  I
 contacted a woman to let her know that she could either turn them off
 altogether or just get one a day or one a week or whatever she liked
 and was the recipient of a rather unpleasant return email suggesting
 my IQ was lower than room temperature as I responded to her problem of
 too many emails by sending her an email.  She was not incorrect, I
 just didn't see it that way.

 I expect that in this case, somebody not-an-admin saw the problem
 first and suggested a solution in the easiest way possible -- by
 responding as the request was made.  It's a worldwide list and not
 everybody is in the same time zone.  Sometimes you have to wait for
 the nearest admin to wake up. :-)

 Happily, unhelpful ridicule has not been much of a problem on this
 particular list, the couple times it has come up it has been pretty
 effectively sat upon thus far.   The biggest problem in my mind is
 autoresponders when folks go on vacation and they are mildly annoying
 and mostly sort of funny.

 Laters,

 Jeannine
 On Feb 17, 5:31 am, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.uk wrote:
  Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over
  the years.
 
  In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a please get me off this
  list one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual
  *off list*.
 
  These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all
  the other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another
  Google Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was
  subjected to a torrent of unhelpful ridicule 

Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Chris Foote (Spike)
Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not 
intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.


Regards
Spike

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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
Chris - I appreciate that.

I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll lead a
little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.

Thanks y'all.

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:

 Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not
 intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.

 Regards
 Spike

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[Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Jeannine
Hi, Alex,

I'll take the GMT +1 shift if you like.  Or we can share it around.
Whatevah, I'm around.  And are you allowed to say y'all?  I thought
that particular version of the second person plural was restricted to
areas where people are also fixin' to do things. Bless your heart.

Hi, Tara,

FWIW, I thought you sounded a little...shorter than usual but we all
have our days.  I know I have often enough said something -- usually
either in haste or just off the cuff -- which caused me to come across
as about at sensitive as a slab of granite.  It's also worth noting
that in a purely written medium, it's to some extent just an
environmental hazard.

Have some coffee -- I think I have decaf around here somewhere. :-
P

Hi, Spike,

What a nice offer.


Jeannine
On Feb 17, 4:16 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris - I appreciate that.

 I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll lead a
 little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.

 Thanks y'all.

 -Alex

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) 
 sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:







  Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not
  intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.

  Regards
  Spike

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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
Jeannine - Thank you!

And I think part of me wants to say y'all once in a while on the list just
to make people wonder what I actually sound like in person. :)

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jeannine flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi, Alex,

 I'll take the GMT +1 shift if you like.  Or we can share it around.
 Whatevah, I'm around.  And are you allowed to say y'all?  I thought
 that particular version of the second person plural was restricted to
 areas where people are also fixin' to do things. Bless your heart.

 Hi, Tara,

 FWIW, I thought you sounded a little...shorter than usual but we all
 have our days.  I know I have often enough said something -- usually
 either in haste or just off the cuff -- which caused me to come across
 as about at sensitive as a slab of granite.  It's also worth noting
 that in a purely written medium, it's to some extent just an
 environmental hazard.

 Have some coffee -- I think I have decaf around here somewhere. :-
 P

 Hi, Spike,

 What a nice offer.


 Jeannine
 On Feb 17, 4:16 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
  Chris - I appreciate that.
 
  I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll lead a
  little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.
 
  Thanks y'all.
 
  -Alex
 
  /ah
  indyhall.org
  coworking in philadelphia
 
  On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) 
 sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not
   intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.
 
   Regards
   Spike
 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Jessica Hulse
Hey Alex,

You can add me on the list as well. Would love to help out...I'm in the
Denver area :)

Jessica
Network, a coworking spot

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Alex Hillman
dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote:

 Jeannine - Thank you!

 And I think part of me wants to say y'all once in a while on the list just
 to make people wonder what I actually sound like in person. :)

 -Alex

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jeannine 
 flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi, Alex,

 I'll take the GMT +1 shift if you like.  Or we can share it around.
 Whatevah, I'm around.  And are you allowed to say y'all?  I thought
 that particular version of the second person plural was restricted to
 areas where people are also fixin' to do things. Bless your heart.

 Hi, Tara,

 FWIW, I thought you sounded a little...shorter than usual but we all
 have our days.  I know I have often enough said something -- usually
 either in haste or just off the cuff -- which caused me to come across
 as about at sensitive as a slab of granite.  It's also worth noting
 that in a purely written medium, it's to some extent just an
 environmental hazard.

 Have some coffee -- I think I have decaf around here somewhere. :-
 P

 Hi, Spike,

 What a nice offer.


 Jeannine
 On Feb 17, 4:16 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
  Chris - I appreciate that.
 
  I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll lead a
  little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.
 
  Thanks y'all.
 
  -Alex
 
  /ah
  indyhall.org
  coworking in philadelphia
 
  On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) 
 sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not
   intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.
 
   Regards
   Spike
 
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[Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Jeannine
I think you sound like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzbrlSHf5-M

In fact, I m pretty sure of it.  Am I right?

Jeannine

On Feb 17, 4:37 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jeannine - Thank you!

 And I think part of me wants to say y'all once in a while on the list just
 to make people wonder what I actually sound like in person. :)

 -Alex

 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jeannine 
 flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:







  Hi, Alex,

  I'll take the GMT +1 shift if you like.  Or we can share it around.
  Whatevah, I'm around.  And are you allowed to say y'all?  I thought
  that particular version of the second person plural was restricted to
  areas where people are also fixin' to do things. Bless your heart.

  Hi, Tara,

  FWIW, I thought you sounded a little...shorter than usual but we all
  have our days.  I know I have often enough said something -- usually
  either in haste or just off the cuff -- which caused me to come across
  as about at sensitive as a slab of granite.  It's also worth noting
  that in a purely written medium, it's to some extent just an
  environmental hazard.

  Have some coffee -- I think I have decaf around here somewhere. :-
  P

  Hi, Spike,

  What a nice offer.

  Jeannine
  On Feb 17, 4:16 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
   Chris - I appreciate that.

   I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll lead a
   little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.

   Thanks y'all.

   -Alex

   /ah
   indyhall.org
   coworking in philadelphia

   On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) 
  sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:

Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was not
intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.

Regards
Spike

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Re: [Coworking] Re: remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Jeannine flexkantoorkame...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think you sound like this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzbrlSHf5-M

 In fact, I m pretty sure of it.  Am I right?

 Jeannine

 On Feb 17, 4:37 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
  Jeannine - Thank you!
 
  And I think part of me wants to say y'all once in a while on the list
 just
  to make people wonder what I actually sound like in person. :)
 
  -Alex
 
  /ah
  indyhall.org
  coworking in philadelphia
 
  On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jeannine flexkantoorkame...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi, Alex,
 
   I'll take the GMT +1 shift if you like.  Or we can share it around.
   Whatevah, I'm around.  And are you allowed to say y'all?  I thought
   that particular version of the second person plural was restricted to
   areas where people are also fixin' to do things. Bless your heart.
 
   Hi, Tara,
 
   FWIW, I thought you sounded a little...shorter than usual but we all
   have our days.  I know I have often enough said something -- usually
   either in haste or just off the cuff -- which caused me to come across
   as about at sensitive as a slab of granite.  It's also worth noting
   that in a purely written medium, it's to some extent just an
   environmental hazard.
 
   Have some coffee -- I think I have decaf around here somewhere. :-
   P
 
   Hi, Spike,
 
   What a nice offer.
 
   Jeannine
   On Feb 17, 4:16 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:
Chris - I appreciate that.
 
I'll collect a few new names over the next few days and then I'll
 lead a
little off-list pow-wow to getcha all up to speed.
 
Thanks y'all.
 
-Alex
 
/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia
 
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Chris Foote (Spike) 
   sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:
 
 Seeing as I've upset a lot of people (for which I'm sorry - it was
 not
 intentional) please feel free to add me as co-admin. Or indeed not.
 
 Regards
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Re: [Coworking] remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Pihlman
We saw the same thing years agowe felt it was better to educate everyone
that they can take themselves off.  We ran the service with 1.5 people and
the more automated and self-help we had things, the better.

On the other hand how COOL is it that the list is getting so busy that
people are now bugging out!

Coworking rocks!

Mike



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Chris Foote (Spike) sp...@tenbus.co.ukwrote:

 Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over the
 years.

 In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a please get me off this
 list one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual *off
 list*.

 These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all the
 other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another Google
 Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was subjected to a
 torrent of unhelpful ridicule from other members.

 This Google Group has over 3000 subscribers and five admins - could one of
 them not have contacted the person concerned - off-list - and dealt with it
 privately.

 This change in the way that list moms see their role does not confine
 itself to this Google Group, I'm seeing it more and more in other places
 too.

 Spike

 Tara Hunt wrote:

 Sheila,

 This is google groups...you can remove yourself...please see the signature
 line below every email.

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 wrote:

please remove this email from this group it is overloading my
account...
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Re: [Coworking] Forum Segmentation

2011-02-17 Thread Jacob Sayles
Great tip.  I bet a community like TED has a lot of the same issues we face.
 Does anyone know any of the moderators that might be willing to talk with
us about how they came about with their solution?

In other news, Tony B. rocked a connection and got me in contact with the
project manager for Google Groups and I pitched my forum/mailing list hybrid
idea to him.  He loved it and asked if we would be open to being beta
testers for some of their new features.  Impossible to know timeline or how
that would work out, but it's fun to be part of the conversation.

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Alex Hillman
dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote:

 I know I've brought this up more than once but I can't help but highlight a
 new forum where people posting messages are given the choice of the
 context of their post - which also gives the readers some visual context and
 choice of their own.

 TED just launched TED conversations, which looks like it's full of super
 smart people asking really interesting questions, sharing very big ideas,
 and guiding fascinating debates.

  Each of these prompts brings distinct value in a style of conversation,
 something I'd like to see more of in terms of high value to this list.

 I know we don't have a solution today, but this is something I hope to see
 for this list in the future!

 -Alex

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Re: [Coworking] remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread sheila sookram
I have tried that and it didn't work.. didn't realize my last email went out to 
the whole group.. thought it was going to an admin too much multitasking 
these days and it is catching up with me... sorry to cause all the drama 
really.. sheila 


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Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Hillary Hartley
I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat
like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time --
and perhaps a shorter hashtag??

Hillary


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange 
market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote:

 Hi there...

 we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
 across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
 instead of creating another one?

 James Rock

 On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)
 
  We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most
 people
  doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.
 
  If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the
 #coworkingtalk hashtag.
 
  Let's go?
 
  Abs,
 
  Cadu de Castro Alves
  c...@beesoffice.com
  Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
  SkypeID: cadudecastroalves
 
  BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
I said to Cadu in a private email:

I hope you guys are having fun - I really don't like using Twitter for
conversations, though. It's too hard to maintain context and really say what
needs to be said in 140 charactersplus it's spammy to the people who
don't follow me on twitter because of coworking.

I love the idea of a coworking chat once in a while, but doing it on Twitter
isn't for me. Thank you for the invitation, and let me know if you and your
friends do the chat in an actual chatroom, I'd love to join in!

-Alex


/ah
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hillary Hartley hhart...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat
 like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time --
 and perhaps a shorter hashtag??

 Hillary


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange 
 market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote:

 Hi there...

 we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
 across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
 instead of creating another one?

 James Rock

 On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)
 
  We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most
 people
  doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.
 
  If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the
 #coworkingtalk hashtag.
 
  Let's go?
 
  Abs,
 
  Cadu de Castro Alves
  c...@beesoffice.com
  Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
  SkypeID: cadudecastroalves
 
  BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
  Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP:
 20090-070 - Brasil
  Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126www.beesoffice.com
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Re: [Coworking] remove me please

2011-02-17 Thread Tony Bacigalupo
Sheila, I've manually turned off emails on your account for this group and
am CC'ing you here. Let me know personally (tony @ nwc dot co) if you
continue to receive more emails from this group.

On NWC's Google Group, I had a similar issue-- after investigation, it
turned out she was subscribed under an email that was forwarding to the
account she uses frequently, so the unsubscribe links weren't getting her
off the list. Strange situation; it happens.

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 I have tried that and it didn't work.. didn't realize my last email went
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 multitasking these days and it is catching up with me... sorry to cause all
 the drama really.. sheila


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Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Tony Bacigalupo
FWIW, a simple hack-- you could start your tweets with @coworking so only
people for whom the tweets would be relevant would see it.


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Alex Hillman
dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote:

 I said to Cadu in a private email:

 I hope you guys are having fun - I really don't like using Twitter for
 conversations, though. It's too hard to maintain context and really say what
 needs to be said in 140 charactersplus it's spammy to the people who
 don't follow me on twitter because of coworking.

 I love the idea of a coworking chat once in a while, but doing it on
 Twitter isn't for me. Thank you for the invitation, and let me know if you
 and your friends do the chat in an actual chatroom, I'd love to join in!

 -Alex


 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia



 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hillary Hartley hhart...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat
 like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time --
 and perhaps a shorter hashtag??

 Hillary


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange 
 market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote:

 Hi there...

 we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
 across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
 instead of creating another one?

 James Rock

 On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)
 
  We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most
 people
  doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.
 
  If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the
 #coworkingtalk hashtag.
 
  Let's go?
 
  Abs,
 
  Cadu de Castro Alves
  c...@beesoffice.com
  Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
  SkypeID: cadudecastroalves
 
  BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
  Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP:
 20090-070 - Brasil
  Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126www.beesoffice.com
  *Antes de imprimir pense em seu compromisso com o Meio Ambiente.
  *Before printing think about your commitment with the Environment.
 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Alex Hillman
I quite like this idea. Wish more people used this for group chats!

DOWN WITH HASHTAGS!

-Alex

/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia
#whyilovephilly


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Tony Bacigalupo
tonybacigal...@gmail.comwrote:

 FWIW, a simple hack-- you could start your tweets with @coworking so only
 people for whom the tweets would be relevant would see it.


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Alex Hillman 
 dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote:

 I said to Cadu in a private email:

 I hope you guys are having fun - I really don't like using Twitter for
 conversations, though. It's too hard to maintain context and really say what
 needs to be said in 140 charactersplus it's spammy to the people who
 don't follow me on twitter because of coworking.

 I love the idea of a coworking chat once in a while, but doing it on
 Twitter isn't for me. Thank you for the invitation, and let me know if you
 and your friends do the chat in an actual chatroom, I'd love to join in!

 -Alex


 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia



 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hillary Hartley hhart...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat
 like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time --
 and perhaps a shorter hashtag??

 Hillary


 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange 
 market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote:

 Hi there...

 we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
 across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
 instead of creating another one?

 James Rock

 On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)
 
  We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking.
 Most people
  doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.
 
  If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the
 #coworkingtalk hashtag.
 
  Let's go?
 
  Abs,
 
  Cadu de Castro Alves
  c...@beesoffice.com
  Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
  SkypeID: cadudecastroalves
 
  BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
  Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP:
 20090-070 - Brasil
  Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126www.beesoffice.com
  *Antes de imprimir pense em seu compromisso com o Meio Ambiente.
  *Before printing think about your commitment with the Environment.
 
 ...
 ...
 ..
 
  O emitente desta mensagem é responsável por seu conteúdo e
 endereçamento. Cabe ao destinatário cuidar quanto ao tratamento adequado.
 Sem a devida autorização, a divulgação, a reprodução, a distribuição ou
 qualquer outra ação em desconformidade com as normas internas do BeesOffice
 Espaço de Coworking são proibidas e passíveis de sanção disciplinar, cível 
 e
 criminal.
 
  The sender of this message is responsible for its content and
 addressing. The receiver shall take proper care of it. Without due
 authorization, the publication, reproduction, distribution or the
 performance of  any other action not conforming to BeesOffice Espaço de
 Coworking internal policies and procedures is forbidden and liable to
 disciplinary, civil or criminal  sanctions.
 
  El emisor de este mensaje es responsable por su contenido y
 direccionamiento. Cabe al destinatario darle el tratamiento adecuado. Sin 
 la
 debida autorización, su divulgación, reproducción, distribución o cualquier
 otra acción no conforme a las normas internas del BeesOffice Espaço de
 Coworking están prohibidas y serán pasibles de sanción disciplinaria, civil
 y penal.
 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?

2011-02-17 Thread Cadu de Castro Alves
Have you ever used Convore? I loved it!

Maybe it could be a good place to do that.

Abs,

Cadu de Castro Alves
c...@beesoffice.com
Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
SkypeID: cadudecastroalves

BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP: 20090-070 - 
Brasil
Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126
www.beesoffice.com
*Antes de imprimir pense em seu compromisso com o Meio Ambiente. 
*Before printing think about your commitment with the Environment.

 
O emitente desta mensagem é responsável por seu conteúdo e endereçamento. Cabe 
ao destinatário cuidar quanto ao tratamento adequado. Sem a devida autorização, 
a divulgação, a reprodução, a distribuição ou qualquer outra ação em 
desconformidade com as normas internas do BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking são 
proibidas e passíveis de sanção disciplinar, cível e criminal.
 
The sender of this message is responsible for its content and addressing. The 
receiver shall take proper care of it. Without due authorization, the 
publication, reproduction, distribution or the performance of  any other action 
not conforming to BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking internal policies and 
procedures is forbidden and liable to disciplinary, civil or criminal  
sanctions.
 
El emisor de este mensaje es responsable por su contenido y direccionamiento. 
Cabe al destinatario darle el tratamiento adecuado. Sin la debida autorización, 
su divulgación, reproducción, distribución o cualquier otra acción no conforme 
a las normas internas del BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking están prohibidas y 
serán pasibles de sanción disciplinaria, civil y penal.


On 17/02/2011, at 18:06, Alex Hillman wrote:

 I quite like this idea. Wish more people used this for group chats! 
 
 DOWN WITH HASHTAGS! 
 
 -Alex
 
 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia
 #whyilovephilly
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 FWIW, a simple hack-- you could start your tweets with @coworking so only 
 people for whom the tweets would be relevant would see it.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I said to Cadu in a private email:
 
 I hope you guys are having fun - I really don't like using Twitter for 
 conversations, though. It's too hard to maintain context and really say what 
 needs to be said in 140 charactersplus it's spammy to the people who 
 don't follow me on twitter because of coworking.  
 
 I love the idea of a coworking chat once in a while, but doing it on Twitter 
 isn't for me. Thank you for the invitation, and let me know if you and your 
 friends do the chat in an actual chatroom, I'd love to join in!
 
 -Alex
 
 
 /ah
 indyhall.org
 coworking in philadelphia
 
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hillary Hartley hhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat 
 like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time -- and 
 perhaps a shorter hashtag??
 
 Hillary
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange 
 market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote:
 Hi there...
 
 we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people
 across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us
 instead of creating another one?
 
 James Rock
 
 On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =)
 
  We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most 
  people
  doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them.
 
  If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the 
  #coworkingtalk hashtag.
 
  Let's go?
 
  Abs,
 
  Cadu de Castro Alves
  c...@beesoffice.com
  Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI)
  SkypeID: cadudecastroalves
 
  BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro
  Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP: 20090-070 - 
  Brasil
  Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126www.beesoffice.com
  *Antes de imprimir pense em seu compromisso com o Meio Ambiente.
  *Before printing think about your commitment with the Environment.
  ... 
  ... 
  ..
 
  O emitente desta mensagem é responsável por seu conteúdo e endereçamento. 
  Cabe ao destinatário cuidar quanto ao tratamento adequado. Sem a devida 
  autorização, a divulgação, a reprodução, a distribuição ou qualquer outra 
  ação em desconformidade com as 

Re: [Coworking] Re: Need an Inexpensive Business/ Marketing Plan for your Coworking Space?

2011-02-17 Thread The Orchestrator
Hi Yeves Perez,

Thanks for your reply and clarifications. During my due diligence, I hear
that you are no longer involved as the President/CEO of EcoHub San Diego?

In addition, I located this online, I guess some people are pretty upset
with you?

Via Google:  http://yevesperez.com/ referencing the mini-madoff??

Your business plan services for $1,000 is a lot of money to spend for a
business plan, especially when it doesn't outline the pro forma-financial
strategy to break-even and profitability, even if the place is donated,
someone has to operate the coworking place to keep the community together.

To me, for coworking, marketing is marketing, by developing a community of
users and providing a quality product/service with recognized and
sustainable value, people will spread the word Good or Bad.

Thanks for your time.

And good luck!



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, EcoHub ype...@ecohubinc.com wrote:

 Wow - these are all great questions. Although I cannot disclose
 certain information as we are a privately held, C corporation, nor do
 I have clearance to do so, I can clarify a few details. I also support
 your statement that a pro forma is really important. Please note: I
 wrote this off the cuff, so please forgive me in advance.

 Just be clear, EcoHub's pro forma is placed in the business plan under
 section titled, Business Model, and I would advise any space owner
 to do the same. We called our chart a Model Hub which included:
 ideal office square footage, dedicated space square footage
 (breakroom, lounge, etc.), monthly revenue or $/ sq. ft. assumptions,
 then additional revenues to total monthly gross revenues, then
 calculated COGS in order to total net revenue, etc. (so we could
 entice a property owner to invest in the company and defer rent for a
 period of time). If I were to write your business plan, you could
 expect me to ask you many questions to do the same.

 This plan of enticing the property owner worked for us, because today,
 he is a share holder, and our initial 1400 square foot space did
 receive a deferred rent deal for a undisclosed period. I am also
 allowed to summarize that we opened our doors in April 2010 and inched
 into the black late July. Then in Oct 2010 and again in Jan 2011 we
 expanded into two additional suites and pay rent a rent for an
 undisclosed period. We also have a second investor that wrote the
 checks to fund the up start costs, so the article is not 100 percent
 correct. Now, for our first expansion, we did ink a donation/
 strategic partnership with Steelcase and bkm Officeworks.

 http://www.prlog.org/11259532-steelcase-and-bkm-officeworks-advance-sustainability-through-support-of-ecohub.html

 And, our beautiful Kirei Tables were custom made, most materials were
 purchased, and labor costs were a struggle. However, we did what most
 space owners did, which was to put a old pair of jeans, roll up your
 selves and get to work (Pics Here -
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=217433id=357577790096).
 So going back to our business plan, the majority of the description
 for our business model went to clearly stating what business we were
 and weren't in, and introduce a enticing model to for the landlord-
 turned-investor.

 I hope this (maybe too lengthy) response helps. I will also say that
 regardless of what your advantages and disadvantages you may face
 (i.e. free, deferred, donated, paid, found at the dump, or whatever)
 and regardless of what EcoHub achieves or does not achieve, a recent
 study says that a business plan doubles your chance for success.

 http://smallbiztrends.com/2010/06/business-plan-success-twice-as-likely.html

 So, if anyone finds value in what I am offering, please email me at
 yevesperez (at) gmail (dot) com if you need a good plan. I prefer to
 use paypal and will email you a payment request in order to get
 started. I am offering to write your plan for $500 down and $500 after
 completion.



 P.S. - If anyone needs want detailed examples from other spaces, net
 revenues, operating expenses, etc., there are several who have
 contributed their data to this forum for educational purposes. Just
 type in the key words into the search bar and lots of great data will
 pop up.

 Thx for the opportunity.

 On Feb 15, 11:18 am, The Orchestrator ray...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
  What I didn't see in your proposed business plan outline is your pro
 forma?
   As in any business, the numbers have to make sense, otherwise, who is
  paying the bills?
 
  Can you provide some high level numbers on EcoHub? What was your startup
  costs, as I understand from the articles is that your space was donated
 to
  you by the EcoHub landlord, and what kind of revenues/numbers are you
  getting, since you really didn't need much capital for EcoHub since the
  furniture and space, equipment, etc. were initially provided/donate by
 the
  landlord, correct, per the article.
 
  What is your sqft. for your entire space, monthly operating