Re: [Coworking] Gay coworking space
My gut reaction is that you've done it right letting it happen organically. IMO, the best, safest spaces (coworking or otherwise) are always the ones that set the tone and have strong ties to a community. You can do that without labeling yourself just by setting the tone, expectations of your members, and walking the walk. My two cents as a queer former space owner... Hillary On Oct 17, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Simon Soho Collective simonjhg...@btinternet.com wrote: Just wanted to know what people thought of gay or gay-friendly coworking spaces. We have a space called The Soho Collective in the middle of Soho in London, which is the gay area and I suppose it's only natural that a higher-than-average percentage of our guys are gay. And we've found it's been a plus: gay people feel comfortable and able to communicate openly, and we only want gay-friendly people around anyway, so it's sort of set the tone. I just wondered if anyone thought a designated gay coworking space would work or whether we've got it right letting it happen organically. Your comments please. Simon at The Soho Collective. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking in Petaluma CA
While doing your due diligence, be sure to read everything you can find about SoCoDepot – formerly of Penngrove, CA. Anthony Tusler is a great resource and a font of info re. coworking and the north bay. He may just have been ahead of the times, but definitely worth reading his thoughts on why the space in Sonoma just couldn't get enough traction to survive. And as you probably already know, start with jellies and meetups and *confirm* that there is indeed a community need! Hillary On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Kate@CO2 katerb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I've been poking around here for the last couple months, and finally joined and am staking my ground, as it were. I have done some preliminary research on the coworking market in the Bay Area, and find that while there are a lot of lovely spaces in San Fran and the East Bay, there is no such community here in the North Bay. As a freelancer with a lot of independent friends and acquaintances who don't want to commute into the city, I believe this could work well here, both as a community and as a business. This town has a population of 55,000, with other neighboring towns that might join in as well (20 minutes north there is a 100K plus city, an even longer commute from SF). I want to start working on a business plan to secure funding, but I'm partly not sure who to look at as a model -- the big spaces in the big city are much larger than we'd be... If anyone has any advice or direction for me, I'd love to hear it. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking in Petaluma CA
Another North Bay space that had to close: bzhive in San Rafael. I think coworking in the north bay/suburbs could work, but I'm pretty sure the typical membership model would need to be tweaked. My gut tells me that you'd rely much more on drop-in members than 5-days-a-week desk renters. People seem to want a place that they can go and get shit done with the amenities of an office... but the desk renters you see in cities are probably fewer. Again, totally speculative on my part. Hillary -former space owner and Marin resident On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Kate@CO2 katerb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I've been poking around here for the last couple months, and finally joined and am staking my ground, as it were. I have done some preliminary research on the coworking market in the Bay Area, and find that while there are a lot of lovely spaces in San Fran and the East Bay, there is no such community here in the North Bay. As a freelancer with a lot of independent friends and acquaintances who don't want to commute into the city, I believe this could work well here, both as a community and as a business. This town has a population of 55,000, with other neighboring towns that might join in as well (20 minutes north there is a 100K plus city, an even longer commute from SF). I want to start working on a business plan to secure funding, but I'm partly not sure who to look at as a model -- the big spaces in the big city are much larger than we'd be... If anyone has any advice or direction for me, I'd love to hear it. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Digital Tools for Coworking Spaces
The Biznik crew has also been to Citizen Space a few times when in San Francisco. Great people and a very cool product. As Susan said, definitely take a look to see if it would work for your peeps. Hillary On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Susan Evans su...@officenomads.com wrote: Hey Sari - Yep, Office Nomads has had a long-standing relationship with Biznik. They are a Seattle-based (but nationwide) networking group for small business. Their former tagline is notable: Business networking that doesn't suck. :) They've since moved on to going it alone, together which should sound pretty familiar to us coworking space. We have often talked about how Office Nomads is almost an in-person, every-day Biznik to some extent. They're worth checking out for sure, and seeing whether or not they have meetups in your city: http://www.biznik.com/ S __ Office Nomads officenomads.com 206-484-5859 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Sari Gordon sarigordo...@gmail.comwrote: I was reading OfficeNomads and somehow ended up on BizNik. I don't know a thing about it, but I like the way it looks. Sari On Aug 16, 2:56 pm, Zoe Fox zoe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am working on a story for Mashable.com about digital tools for coworking spaces and I'd love to hear people's favorites. Feel free to either reply to this post or if you'd like to speak with me in person, just let me know. Much appreciation, Zoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] sino-US dialogue on coworking
This is fantastic. Thanks in advance for making it available to all of us! -- Hillary Hartley http://twitter.com/hillary http://gplus.to/hillary On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, We are honored to have Tony Bacigalupo, “Mayor” of New Work City to visit us at Xindanwei, Shanghai this weekend, and of course we want the entire world to know that and get involved in this knowledge exchange between Tony, us, Xinchejian (hacker space affiliated to Xindanwei) and other Chinese coworking communities. Anyone who are interested to join this live event but cannot travel to Shanghia, we have opened up two online options: 1, Join us via skype by adding anxiaophotos on skype with msg: “join xdw event”, please do so at least one day earlier so our moderator can do some preparation. 2, or you are welcome to use hashtag #xdw on twitter to follow us The event starts at 2pm on 7 Aug, 2011 Beijing Time sharp (2am on 7 aug, 2011 New York Time and 8am on 7 Aug 2011 Paris time). More details about event please find at http://xindanwei.com/lang/en/2011/08/the-future-is-co/ If you cannot make it, you can still find our podcast in the above event page a few days after the event. kind regards, Yan Liu Yan 刘妍 CEO/Co-founder Xindanwei 新单位 (+86) 021 3428 0783 +86) 135 2429 5509 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 http://xindanwei.com twitter/weibo:@theliuyan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's talk about coworking on Twitter?
I would agree with James, unless you're proposing a weekly organized chat like #wjchat or #agchat, etc. If so, let us know that weekday and time -- and perhaps a shorter hashtag?? Hillary On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Moseley Exchange market...@moseleyexchange.com wrote: Hi there... we already have #coworking as a hashtag on Twitter with many people across the world taking part in the conversation - why not join us instead of creating another one? James Rock On Feb 16, 1:25 pm, Cadu de Castro Alves cadudecastroal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, coworkers! How are you, my friends? =) We are starting a conversation on Twitter to talk about coworking. Most people doesn't know or understand how it works, so we'll help them. If you'd like to participe, ask people to tweet questions using the #coworkingtalk hashtag. Let's go? Abs, Cadu de Castro Alves c...@beesoffice.com Mobile: +55 21 8464-3958(OI) SkypeID: cadudecastroalves BeesOffice - Espaço de Coworking RJ - Unidade: Centro Rua Teófilo Otoni, 52/1203, Centro - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - CEP: 20090-070 - Brasil Tel./Fax: +55 21 2233-5126www.beesoffice.com *Antes de imprimir pense em seu compromisso com o Meio Ambiente. *Before printing think about your commitment with the Environment. ... ... .. O emitente desta mensagem é responsável por seu conteúdo e endereçamento. Cabe ao destinatário cuidar quanto ao tratamento adequado. Sem a devida autorização, a divulgação, a reprodução, a distribuição ou qualquer outra ação em desconformidade com as normas internas do BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking são proibidas e passíveis de sanção disciplinar, cível e criminal. The sender of this message is responsible for its content and addressing. The receiver shall take proper care of it. Without due authorization, the publication, reproduction, distribution or the performance of any other action not conforming to BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking internal policies and procedures is forbidden and liable to disciplinary, civil or criminal sanctions. El emisor de este mensaje es responsable por su contenido y direccionamiento. Cabe al destinatario darle el tratamiento adecuado. Sin la debida autorización, su divulgación, reproducción, distribución o cualquier otra acción no conforme a las normas internas del BeesOffice Espaço de Coworking están prohibidas y serán pasibles de sanción disciplinaria, civil y penal. ... ... .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Citizen Space: End of one era, beginning of the next
A sunset post is definitely due. We'll put something together once the dust has settled. But I think Tara summed it up in her tweets on Friday: the community in SF is well-served, and the idea behind CS was more of a community service than a business...which in the end is not a totally viable business plan. :) Thanks for your thoughts, Jean-Yves -- and everyone else who has sent messages of support and inspiration! Hillary An analysis of what led to this exit is maybe as important for the community. Why did CS see its momentum decrease in SF ? Is it due to the growing competition within the coworking industry in the area ? Did Citizen Space lose contact with its natural public ? Are the values changing ? Etc. Tara, Hilary, I hope you will share your thoughts with us about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Are there any coworking spaces in Jackson, WY?
Any details other than the email address?? On Dec 23, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski fccowork...@gmail.com wrote: I just posted the info on FB. coworkjackson at gmail.com They're just starting out. On Dec 22, 7:20 pm, Jason jasonahei...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any coworking spaces in Jackson, WY? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Hello, I'm creating a space for fashion designers in San Francisco
Hey Johanna. Feel free to stop by Citizen Space and chat with any of our residents who are around that day. You might also want to talk to the people at The Grotto -- they were doing collective-type stuff in SF before coworking was coworking. Best, Hillary -- Hillary Hartley Citizen Space http://twitter.com/quepol On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Johanna johanna_off...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I just joined this group. I am a catalyst working on creating a co- working space in San Francisco, specificaly for fashion designers, seamstresses, and others in the clothing/textile field. I'm currently looking for ware houses. I could use some advice and insight from others who are also doing co-working spaces. best, Johanna :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Quit marketing your stuff, start marketing your values
Spot on, Susan! We've never seen ourselves as in the services business. Citizen Space is a community resource with a great culture and cool people. We also happen to have wifi. :) Thanks for sharing! Hillary On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Susan Evans su...@officenomads.com wrote: Hi all, It's been a great couple of weeks over here in Seattle watching Jacob put together his presentation for the Coworking Europe conference. While watching his practice run-through last night (he's so much more organized than I could hope to be!), I was struck with the reminder that the best way to market our coworking space is not by telling folks about all our great shared resources, but to tell folks about our great values. Let me extrapolate a bit: No one's business has been improved by our shared printer. While shared resources (internet, printer, desks, coffee, etc.) are great, they don't make anyone's business or work better. While it may be a contributing factor to why people step through our doors, it is certainly not the reason that they stay. Our members enjoy these things, but they STAY here and enjoy their experience coworking because they get relief from the isolation they felt working solo and they're able to be productive again. If you're trying to get people into your space by telling them about all of your stuff, you're likely wasting your time (and attracting the wrong folks). If there is one thing that we've learned over the last three years, it is that we are not in the stuff business. We are in the coworking business. If we try to sell ourselves otherwise to potential new members, we wind up disappointing people. Our true selling point is our culture and our values: we believe that choosing to work along side one another makes our work AND our lives better overall. We believe this, and if we can get that message across, we wind up attracting folks who stick around and are happy. Members are not impressed with the stuff. Alexandra, our rockstar Community Cultivator, told us during Jacob's run-through that she rarely has people commenting on how great it is that we have an internet connection or a fax machine. Instead, they comment on how cool they think it is that we have rotating artwork in our space, or that we have yoga on Wednesdays. The culture of our space is what impresses people and encourages them to become a member - that's because they see value there. They see their work life being enhanced. If you felt your work/life balance could be improved by a fax machine, well, you'd just buy one and get on with your life. What coworking spaces have to offer is SO much more exciting than the stuff. Them's just the thoughts here on Tuesday morning in blustery Seattle. Hope this is helpful to those of you currently hemming and hawing about how to get some new members in the door. I implore you: don't waste your time telling them that you have a badass internet connection. Spend your time telling them that they don't have to be alone anymore. :) Susan __ Office Nomads officenomads.com 206-484-5859 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Tony B in Inc Magazine.
Hot DAMN Way to go, Tony! Woot Woot! hh On Sep 21, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Not just IN Inc, but on the front cover! http://www.flickr.com/photos/stellargirl/5011782434/ Congrats to Tony and New Work City! I look forward to reading the article when I get my copy. I hope everyone else runs out to grab theirs. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Numbers published
IndyHall just released their numbers and were published at GigaOm. Search the group for that thread, as Alex provided the raw numbers. hh -- Hillary Hartley Citizen Space On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Alexander Lang langa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, sorry to spam you again with another blog post, but once again I think this might be interesting. I have blogged our development of coworkers, revenue and attendance: http://co-up.de/2010/09/05/annual-report.html I'm hoping others will do that, too. I'm not aware of any spaces who have published their numbers - if there are any please let me know. Cheers, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] SXSW Coworking Meetup Announcement
Hey Cody - will you be adding this to Sched or Facebook or any of the SXSW event sites? hh -- Hillary Hartley Citizen Space @quepol On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Cody Marx Bailey superp...@gmail.comwrote: Hey everyone, On behalf of all the coworking spaces in Texas, I'd like to welcome everyone to this years Coworking Meetup during SXSW. In years past, we have used the lovely San Jose Hotel, but this year, we'll be having it at the newly opened Texas Coworking just blocks away from the Austin Convention Center. We're doing it a bit earlier than years past, so we don't take away from the party atmosphere that happens later in the night. That said, here's the skinny: Date: March 13th, 2010 Time: 6PM - 8PM Location: 200 E. 6th Street, 3rd Floor -- Austin, TX If anyone has any questions, let me know. I'll respond on/off list. Cody Marx Bailey 979-574-9199 The Creative Space (.org) Desired Hearts (.com) Hashtags (.org) 211a West Wm J Bryan Pkwy Bryan, Texas 77803 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Space owner question on drop-ins
Tony, as usual, sums it up brilliantly. And as Tara mentioned, Citizen Space stands firmly behind our free drop-in policy. Even in tight times when it's tempting to try to charge hourly or daily, it really is the drop-ins that make CS what it is. For me, that's the core of what coworking at CS is about -- collaboration, accelerating serendipity, etc. Hillary On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Tony Bacigalupotonybacigal...@gmail.com wrote: Drop-ins tend to be important for a few reasons: 1. Reluctant potential members try it out before committing 2. Adds variety to your daily membership. Part of what is nice (and important) about coworking is that you get to meet new interesting people-- for instance, right now we have two awesome folks from Nashville in the space, and they wouldn't have come if we didn't offer dropins. 3. The people for whom coworking is useful are inherently independent by nature, and often just can't commit to a regular schedule. On top of this, people are compelled to sign up for membership because: 1) it saves them money 2) it's more convenient than paying every time, and 3) they get to call themselves a member. How does that sound? PS congrats on 30 members! Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Taking advantage of the impending BART strike...
Thanks to everyone who tweeted! No BART strike fortunately, but it has been a good drop-in week for us. Mike, would be interested to brainstorm about consciousness raising events re. coworking. If you have any ideas we're open! Hillary On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Susan Evanssusan.c.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea, Hillary! Always good to remind commuters of the benefits of coworking, particularly when commuting gets a big kink in it like a BART strike. :) We tried to do the same when we had bridge construction over here in Seattle, but didn't see too many results, as we didn't Tweet much about it. I'll send out a message for ya now! Susan __ Office Nomads http://www.officenomads.com On Aug 15, 9:33 am, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Being out here in commuter heaven, I started tweeting like crazy yesterday (and Facebooking and TracyIsland social networking) to let everyone out there know that the TracyVirtualOffice is an alternative to driving in to the Bay Area (now for the BART strike, but, also long term if their OFB's do not allow them to work at home.the TVO is an office). Any Twitter help from you all would be greatly appreciated as well :-) Also.since coworking is really a form of telecommuting which is telework...is there something we ALL can at a grass roots organized level? Watching the news..very very little is said about staying at home to work, when there are thousands of people who can. Would it make sense for all of us to band together to let whoever needs to know, know about the benefits of coworking / telecommuting? And not just during events like this but long termreduce traffic, reduce harmful emissions, reduce stress, save time, money, and increase productivity. All benefits of telecommuting and thus, coworking. Thanks, Mike Hillary Hartley wrote: Hi everyone. Rumor has it that BART will probably strike next week. We're thinking it would be a great time to remind San Franciscans of coworking! To that end, if you feel so compelled we'd love it if you could tweet or otherwise spread the message. I'm including a couple 140-character- friendly messages below. Spread the love! Thanks. Hillary and my fellow citizens @ Citizen Space - Work out of @citizenspace during the BART strike. Communal table free wifi. Donations are cool but not required.http://citizenspace.us Stuck at home during the BART strike? Try coworking @citizenspace - free wifi, fresh coffee, and rad peeps.http://citizenspace.us BART strike got you down? Cowork instead of commute! Work at @citizenspace (lots of space free wifi)http://citizenspace.us -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice Skype: tracyvirtualoffice1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Taking advantage of the impending BART strike...
Hi everyone. Rumor has it that BART will probably strike next week. We're thinking it would be a great time to remind San Franciscans of coworking! To that end, if you feel so compelled we'd love it if you could tweet or otherwise spread the message. I'm including a couple 140-character- friendly messages below. Spread the love! Thanks. Hillary and my fellow citizens @ Citizen Space - Work out of @citizenspace during the BART strike. Communal table free wifi. Donations are cool but not required. http://citizenspace.us Stuck at home during the BART strike? Try coworking @citizenspace - free wifi, fresh coffee, and rad peeps. http://citizenspace.us BART strike got you down? Cowork instead of commute! Work at @citizenspace (lots of space free wifi) http://citizenspace.us --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: New to the group
Hey DJ. Welcome to the group! Hope we see you again soon at Citizen Space. (And apologies if this is the wrong DJ. :) Hillary On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:57 PM, DJ djdeeja...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everybody. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hello to everyone. I am brand new to the group and look forward to everything that this group has to offer! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: US-coworking-summer-trip-2009
Hi Peter! We look forward to seeing you at Citizen Space this summer. If you end up needing a place to crash, ping our google group and I'm sure we can find a place for you. And may I suggest Duffel for planning and sharing your trip? http://duffelup.com/ Pretty cool, and I think you can share it with everyone. Unfortunately, I don't think TripIt allows you to make a trip totally public. Have a fantastic summer. Look forward to meeting you! Hillary Hartley Citizen Space On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:46 AM, IDEA REPUBLIC peteschr...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear fellow coworking enthusiasts, i am located in cologne/germany and my plan for july/august 2009 is to visit a couple of US coworking spaces. I wonder if there are maybe some further european coworking enthusiasts out there who always wanted to tour places like Citizen Space to get a first hand experience on what coworking feels like in its homecountry. If so I would suggest that we set up a group- travelling page where everybody can follow our trip details and can join in the conversation. Are you interested? Or do you know someone who could be interested? Than just answer this thread or drop me a note: summertrip2...@coworking.de Thanks, Peter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Big changes in the works at IndyHall!
Congrats Alex, Geoff, everyone who's helped making Indyhall (and all of our spaces) a success!!! Looking forward to seeing Indyhall 2.0 -- hopefully I'll get to see 1.0, too. :) hillary On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the congratulations everyone. This is one helluva wild ride. The latest update on our new space and our membership drive is up at: http://www.indyhall.org/2009/03/06/important-membership-drive-for-monday-march-9th-indyhall-v20/ -- - -- - Alex Hillman im always developing something digital: a...@weknowhtml.com helpful: www.unstick.me visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Bradley Neuberg bradneub...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats IndyHall folks! On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Geoff DiMasi ge...@punkave.com wrote: Thanks. We are taking another leap. This time it feels like there is a bigger net with more people holding it, but still... leaps are scary and exciting. --- Geoff DiMasi P'unk Avenue 215 755 1330 punkave.com window.punkave.com On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Wettergreen mwettergr...@gmail.com wrote: Alex and Geoff, Just want to congratulate you guys on this great success. I'm really looking forward to hearing what the community building, input, engagement and execution is like the second time around. It seems you'll be able to refine the process a bit for all of us. Matthew On Mar 4, 6:31 pm, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I was lucky enough to be in Philly yesterday for IndyHall's Town Hall event, where Alex and Geoff discussed the state of IndyHall and prospects for its future. In case you haven't heard, IndyHall's been bursting at the seams with interest... 14 full time members, over 50 members overall, and literally not enough desks to go around. So they're considering expanding to an even bigger space nearby! There's so much more in the works as well, but it's just now getting warmed up. I wrote up a post about it with videos here:http://www.imouttaherethebook.com/2009/03/big-changes-coming-indyhall... Alex also has an official recap with slides and a video tour of the space here:http://www.indyhall.org/2009/03/04/the-state-of-indyhall-march-3rd-2009/ Very exciting stuff going on there! Bravo Alex and Geoff! I really can't wait to see how things develop. Tony Bacigalupo New Work Cityhttp://nwcny.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Looking for Coworking References for LA (3/7 - 3/15)
hey eric. start by checking out the wiki: http://wiki.coworking.info/ i think most people have added their spaces to the list. i'm nearly positive there are some spaces in LA. good luck! hillary citizen space, sf On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Eric Nakagawa (FTW RND) ericnakag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm a noob to coworking... My only reference is a book launch party at Parisoma in SF (nice laid back french crew). Heading to LA soon to meet with my team and do brainstorm on a new project. We will be 3 people, need access to a meeting room with #fff board, clean tables, wifi or wired with close access to coffee and food. Parking within 2 blocks would be great. I hope someone can point me in the right direction. Eric N. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: this group being archived/indexed/ads sold against (not just on Google)
I also got a similar Google Alert last week referring to osdir.com -- and was similarly shocked that it appears to be a post for post archive of the google group. I didn't realize Google would allow something like that; seems like they'd have the content locked down somehow. After all, we are talking about GOOG. :) On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Raines Cohen, Coworking Coach rain...@gmail.com wrote: A Google Alert with my name appearing on another website brought my attention to what may be already known and old hat to many immersed in the Web 2.0/culture of openness where coworking grew, but this caught my eye as a note for anyone assuming that it's just us here, despite the public archive and RSS feeds for the Google Group itself: all messages for this Google Group in 2008 are appearing at: http://osdir.com/ml/culture.talk.coworking/ with the ability for people to reply there (vs. coming back here to actually join the conversation), as well as ads being sold against content we're generating here. Looking around, it appears the newsgroup echoing this group was created way back on 11/28/2006: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/11943 This newsgroup corresponds to the coworking mailing list. Here's basic info on the group: http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.culture.talk.coworking It's also archived elsewhere: http://www.mail-archive.com/coworking@googlegroups.com/ Just a handy reminder for anyone thinking that if something is said that they didn't mean to it can be cleaned up within the group, given that none of this has been mentioned on this list as far as I can tell in archives searches. Raines --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Cowork Network
steven - search the google group for coworkination. there are links to the google code page. -hh Steven Heath wrote: 2008/10/28 axon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be up for occasional concalls. I have a WebEx account we can use if that's of interest. --Ax On Oct 27, 11:12 am, Jacob Sayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be down for a regular conference call. Even if it was just to shoot the shit, it would be great to talk with folks and see how things are going. Talking of 'shoot the shit'. Someone posted couple of weeks ago saying they were hoping to open source release some coworking related software around resource booking. Can that person give an update, I think that is one of the biggest tangible areas that we can work together (along with advice and comments etc). PS I would be interested in an initial conf call but we would need to think abotu what the outcome is other than for me to listen to all your funky accents :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Drama at Citizen Space
Tara, I actually meant to call you before I left town 2 weeks ago. I had just spoken with Eddie, and lo and behold Ryan was at the space that day. Evidently, he'd been storing stuff (bags of clothes) at the Hat Factory and other residents caught him hanging out in the laundry room at night. I discussed the situation with my wife (former case manager and drop-in center manager) and she said we should be firm with him and possibly provide a list of drop-in centers and shelters. I'm so sorry it escalated so much over the last 10 days, but I'm glad the police are now informed of the situation. He definitely seems to be, well, special... Not sure if it's autism or some other retardation, but I have had a hard time communicating with him, too. Perhaps we should ask the police if he has a record. We had a neighbor that started stalking us (long story cut very short) and she had a mental break one day. When the police arrived, her doctor arrived with them and informed us that this was not the first time. If Ryan has a record, or a hospital history, then perhaps we'd see some action there. Not sure. Some necessary steps... I think David is onto something with the No Sleep policy. It's an office, a place of business, and we have the right to ask anyone to leave. Also, we should probably figure out how he's getting behind the security door. One thing I discussed with Johnathan is that the last person out of the office needs to do a sweep of the floor -- our bathroom, the other (unlocked) bathroom, the hallway, etc. and MAKE SURE that security door is locked. See you soon. Glad you reached out to the list, and hope you don't have to deal with this alone. I should be in tomorrow -- perhaps whoever is around the office can powwow a bit. Hillary On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dawn, When asked these questions (and we've asked many to fine out more), he doesn't speak up. He just stares defiantly. I think he may be autistic? T On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Dawn Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tara, Given the economy, your situation might not be that unusual. I work out of several locations in NYC- some public and some private- and I've seen more than my share of folks that remind me of RC. Due to the size of most of the locations, only regulars might have noticed somewhat odd behaviors or appearances. So, I haven't witnessed anyone mention it as a problem yet (a matter of time, it seems) I am certainly not saying it is your problem to deal with given how you have tried to handle the matter, but people lie about their employment and housing situations. Is there anyone in your space working with or for public service organizations? Perhaps they may have some local references to suggest. Is there anyone who might be looking for an intern or have a job to fill? Maybe he might express interest if he didn't feel singled out and that may get him to open up a little more about his situation if he is facing personal difficulties. In terms of safety, you may have to explore issuing keys (or getting building management to do so) for a more controlled environment; even if it slightly dampens the culture of the space. I wonder what he would say if he were asked directly why he spends so much time at the space in spite of possibly getting arrested and clearly making others around him uncomfortable? Cheers, Dawn On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, So, I thought I'd relay a story...not to freak anyone out or change anything, but just as an experience that others can learn from. For about 6 months, there has been a guy who drops in regularly at Citizen Space for free - almost too regularly at times - and would fall asleep at the communal tables in the back. I thought, Whatever, no biggie, really, until I got a complaint from my landlord that, when CS wasn't open, he would sit outside of our door or wander around the building for hours. So, the next time I saw him I told him that he isn't allowed to be in the building hanging around when we aren't there. So, that was problem A. But he didn't really listen and we would still find him sleeping outside our door. I must have told him about 10x personally. Then he hadn't come around for a while, so I thought that the issue was done. But no. One day I received an email from Eddie from The Hat Factory asking me if Ryan Cook ever hangs out at Citizen Space and that they had to finally ask him to leave and not come back because he was doing the same thing - sleeping in the building - as well as bringing his clothes and showering there. Eddie and another guy had taken Ryan to lunch to get more information from him and didn't find much out. According to Ryan, he had a job and a place to live. So they said he would have to limit the times he dropped in and no more showering or sleeping there. But he continued, so they finally
[Coworking] Re: Redefining Coworking
I totally agree. But want to add that the space could be an office space, OR simply someone's living room (like Jelly). But there's *something* that gets you out of your PJs, or out of your usual cafe, and into the community. Hillary bunnyhero wrote: i'm not convinced that coworking needs redefinition, as you write on your blog post. to me, the space is VERY important to the core of the movement. i already work in cafes a lot, and have worked in a couple of different shared office environments, but it's the combination that i am looking for, and is why i was drawn to it. wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Redefining Coworking - WHY?
Hear, hear, Patrick. I think the definition of working + being social is FAR too generic to define coworking. I don't really care if it's a noun, verb, or an adjective -- Geoff said it best, that the *spirit* of coworking is what's unique and has ultimately drawn us all to this concept and movement. Coworking is a movement that has taken several forms -- and I've made my qualms with some of those forms public. But as long as you are fostering and preaching the core values (collaboration, openness, community, accessibility, sustainability), I don't care how, where, or why you are doing it. And on that note -- we should probably put those core values on the main page of the wiki. Tara summed them up nicely for the Citizen Space web site here: http://citizenspace.us/about/our-philosophy/ I removed most of Patrick's email, and left the two paragraphs that really get to the heart of it for me... Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jelly and Cream Cheese, not being location based were making the act of coworking be the community event. The secret sauce is/was the act of going there together and working and more. When you have a space, you can hold other events, foster community in more ways. Whatever the model the fact remains that we are doing more than just working and randomly talking with people who are there. I think making it a verb and trying to make it individuals working and interacting is reductive, it takes away from what a coworking space wants to / should be building; a group, a community. Working next to someone and socialising is being a normal human with human contact needs. Working together and building something more together is coworking. The place can be a permanent physical place, it can be a place the group swarms to but the ulterior motives are more than just socializing because you happen to be next to each other. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Office Nomads on KING 5
i wanna be a cow orker! i've always wanted to be an orker, and orking cows sound like the perfect synthesis of my skills. who's in? -hillary Tara Hunt wrote: Coworking.info is up again (flaky server?). LOVE the Cow Orking! LOL Congrats Jacob and Susan...GREAT interview...I heard the cat comment and thought instantly, Alex! ;) T On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Tony Bacigalupo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did somebody say cow-orking? http://whatiscoworking.com :-) Looks like the coworking community blog is down again... anybody know why? T On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a great report! Susan, love the cat comment...you know I've got a soft spot for that part of the story ;-) Congratulations team coworking seattle!! -Alex, IndyHall p.s. AGAIN with the hyphen. co-working. cow-orking. its *coworking*. --sigh-- -Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Office Nomads on KING 5
um.uhhhwell. i guess the cow's out of the bag. :D Sean O'Steen wrote: Wow you learn something new from Urban Dictionary every day: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orking Hee Hee On May 27, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Hillary Hartley wrote: i wanna be a cow orker! i've always wanted to be an orker, and orking cows sound like the perfect synthesis of my skills. who's in? -hillary Tara Hunt wrote: Coworking.info is up again (flaky server?). LOVE the Cow Orking! LOL Congrats Jacob and Susan...GREAT interview...I heard the cat comment and thought instantly, Alex! ;) T On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Tony Bacigalupo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did somebody say cow-orking? http://whatiscoworking.com :-) Looks like the coworking community blog is down again... anybody know why? T On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a great report! Susan, love the cat comment...you know I've got a soft spot for that part of the story ;-) Congratulations team coworking seattle!! -Alex, IndyHall p.s. AGAIN with the hyphen. co-working. cow-orking. its *coworking*. --sigh-- -Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Microcoworking
Sounds a bit like Jelly and a bit like a meetup. Looks like they have regular get-together dates. Does Ann Arbor have an actual coworking site? (/me goes to look at the wiki...) Jacob Sayles wrote: Just discovered this: http://microcoworking.com/ Anyone know these folks, or other creative approaches to coworking? Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Sample Membership Agreements?
This has been discussed quite a bit in this group. Give the search a whirl and see what you can find. Also, there is at least one sample agreement in the Files section: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/files Hillary On Mar 24, 12:36 am, Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning, I've found a few spaces I've become interested in, calling offices later on in the day. For those of you who have successfully started coworking locales, what are some of the terms and conditions you include in your agreements for members? Do you include a contract as part of the application process, or is it simply an application individuals fill out, pay their dues and they receive a key? Thanks, Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: SXSW Rollcall?
As will I... popping my SXSW cherry, finally. -Hillary Tara Hunt wrote: You KNOW I'll be there. :) On Jan 18, 2008 2:08 PM, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, SO happy to have more east coast representation! Woohoo! Susan, thanks for supporting the panel, looking forward to meeting your gang! -Alex On Jan 18, 2008 5:00 PM, qotu [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had been begging Hugh Forrest (event coordinator) to accept your panel, Alex, so very I'm glad to hear about this other option. Some San Antonio coworking folks will be driving our 80 miles up the road as well. The gangs from MediaRich, my new venture Firecat Studio, Todd O'Neill's DoingMedia are doing a few scheduled coworking sessions and will be eager to learn and compare notes. If you're on the fence about coming to SxSW, their podcast archive might help you decide: http://2007.sxsw.com/blogs/podcasts.php?disp=arcdir -Susan, Firecat Studio, San Antonio vocal: 484.597.6256 digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | skype: dangerouslyawesome visual: www.weknowhtml.com http://www.weknowhtml.com | www.dangerouslyawesome.com http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org http://www.indyhall.org -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt coFounder Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com http://www.citizenagency.com) blog: www.horsepigcow.com http://www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Logo
Johnny, these are beautiful. I love the starfish! To echo Tara's concern about one-color/greyscale, I'd love to see your basic starfish shape transposed to the barcamp-style layout, too. (http://flickr.com/photos/hillaryandanna/1369795451/) It would be awesome to have a logotype that could take several forms for different purposes. Hillary On Sep 19, 7:38 am, John Bilotta Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chris, I am mocking up a few more now. I also want to send you a typestudy, see if any thing there tickles your fancy. The typefaces I used were chosen due to their neutral nature. Johnny web / graphic designer 609-680-8247 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jbiljr.com -Original Message- From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:57 AM To: coworking@googlegroups.com Subject: [Coworking] Re: Coworking Logo Also, you might check out the explanation of the CoWorking Institute's logo: http://www.smartmobs.com/2007/09/14/the-idea-of-working-together-for-... I think that the starfish is a good symbol and I really like John's efforts so far. I'm not sold on the typefaces but I think his shape is a good direction... Chris On 9/18/07, Sean O'Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love John Bilotta's latest submissions! Especially #2 (black starfish, yellow background). Plus, the broad starfish will allow derivative works to add small logos and/or country colors within. Very nice! Sean --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Logo
I'm not a logo designer by any stretch of the imagination, but I put a few mockups out there for review: http://flickr.com/photos/hillaryandanna/1369795451/ (click thru to next 2 files, too) I also put them on the wiki with some color commentary: http://coworking.pbwiki.com/Logo My basic thought is that many of the ideas out there so far are too busy to be a simple, extensible, community mark. Something that acts as a call to action (as someone else said) and can be very easily modified. Think coworking sf, coworking philly, coworking boulder, etc... just like BarCamp. $0.02... Hillary On Sep 11, 11:31 am, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mock it up! :) We tried the skinny star but it looked odd on our end...maybe you can do better. T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Logo
Danke, Tara. That's what I was going for. That starfish lends itself well to larger imagery, too (as Chris's logos illustrate). I hope to have a bit more time to play with it. I think something like Chris's last logo would be a great t-shirt / notebook / swag logo. Much to ponder... (Hope your preso goes swimmingly today, btw!!) hh On Sep 13, 12:24 am, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite like the simplicity of these, Hill. T. On 9/13/07, Hillary Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a logo designer by any stretch of the imagination, but I put a few mockups out there for review: http://flickr.com/photos/hillaryandanna/1369795451/(click thru to next 2 files, too) I also put them on the wiki with some color commentary: http://coworking.pbwiki.com/Logo My basic thought is that many of the ideas out there so far are too busy to be a simple, extensible, community mark. Something that acts as a call to action (as someone else said) and can be very easily modified. Think coworking sf, coworking philly, coworking boulder, etc... just like BarCamp. $0.02... Hillary On Sep 11, 11:31 am, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mock it up! :) We tried the skinny star but it looked odd on our end...maybe you can do better. T -- tara 'miss rogue' hunt co-founder CMO Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) blog:www.horsepigcow.com phone: 415-694-1951 fax: 415-727-5335 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Logo
Hey Chris, would you be willing to post the EPS files (and fonts/font names) to the group? Not sure if Google Group Files or the Wiki is standard procedure, but it would be great to get them out there somewhere. Thanks, Hillary On Sep 7, 7:43 pm, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a later version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/1344486740/ Thoughts? Chris On 9/7/07, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mocked up a couple logos for coworking (nothing final) and would love your opinions: http://urltea.com/1feh http://urltea.com/1fei Chris -- Chris Messina Citizen Provocateur Open Source Advocate-at-Large Work:http://citizenagency.com Blog:http://factoryjoe.com/blog Cell: 412 225-1051 Skype: factoryjoe This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private -- Chris Messina Citizen Provocateur Open Source Advocate-at-Large Work:http://citizenagency.com Blog:http://factoryjoe.com/blog Cell: 412 225-1051 Skype: factoryjoe This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Who's Going To Burning Man?
Sing it sister!! Errr...Chris. :) 1) Who are you and where did you come from?? 2) Can we grow more of you??? A few random thoughts (and I fear it's too late to be making sense, but I really want to respond to your amazing post)... my view of diversity -- of what diversity is -- is actually itself diverse and contextual This is exactly right. Diversity *must* be contextual -- one conference's diversity is another's homogeneity. I went to a girl's school in New England after growing up in Kansas. Arriving on campus was literally like stepping into a Benetton commercial for me. I was suddenly surrounded by rich, poor, black, white, brown, gay, straight, bi, trans, jewish, muslim, catholic, presbyterian, american, foreign (not intended as a slur; I simply cannot name ALL the countries represented), etc., etc., etc. However, I soon learned that a little diversity does *not* go a long way. Several groups on campus were constantly petitioning to students, faculty, and staff... There can (and should) always be more diversity in any group. Though I'm speaking mostly of physical diversity, Chris makes the brilliant point that even in an otherwise homogeneous group, there will always be diverse *needs* among the members of said group. Again, diversity is contextual. The lack of women is, admittedly, a different topic... Berislav, I disagree. Addressing the concerns of gender diversity are no different than any other type. The question is HOW. I'm not sure how to be more accommodating, or how to value the kinds of special contributions women make. But I do think Chris is on to something with the example of Liz Henry BarCampBlock. If I may talk specifically about conferences and similar events, I believe that the primary way to engender diversity is to be diverse from the get-go. Two of the four five members of the BarCampBlock planning team were women. Just like Liz made the planning team aware of accessibility and child care, I think her and Tara's involvement led to a much more diverse attendee list. Can't prove it of course, but I know it encouraged me to not only attend but also really be present for the event. Another mini-case study -- I'm planning a three-day event for my company and our top clients. It's an annual conference with the usual showcase of keynotes, presentations, panels, and entertainment. This is my first year to handle the planning from start to finish, and it's shaping up to be much different than previous years. There is a subtle, and natural, difference in the range of topics, speakers, etc. simply because I'm organizing it, not my (wonderful, but) male boss. Diversity is not something that can be achieved, much like the rainmaker who makes rain once as a happenstance and then fails to invoke the weather again. Diversity is a process and a mindset. It exists in the negative spaces of social convention. It is something that makes open communities like ours stronger and better and it certainly isn't always obvious. Just want to say that this is a beautiful paragraph, and I think your whole message would be a wonderful blog post! We (the tech world, and the world in general) need more people talking about this. I always find myself stuck smack-dab in the middle of things, riding the fence and trying to comment when/where possible. I'm rich (well, in the big scheme of things) and white, but also a gay woman. Somehow the rich and white always outweigh the gay and female in my mind. I have a hard time considering myself a minority, even though I know it to be true. I guess that is definitely one benefit of being able to call Smith College my alma mater, and San Francisco my home. Now, off to bed! And here's hoping my kids grow up to be as thoughtful as Messina! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: coworking for creche..?
This is such a great idea. Seems like all it would take is a little outreach to assess the needs of the community. Child care isn't cheap, but the idea of sharing the cost via membership fees is brilliant. Most moms interested in the idea probably wouldn't be working non-stop from 9-5. I could see doing email and kid-wrangling in the mornings, then getting to the office late-morning/afternoon. That way the kids would only need to be there a few hours, and would be less of a nightmare for the sitter. :) Definitely something to ponder... And Tara, HealthCamp sounds like a great idea no matter what. As coworking grows roots, co-health plans should, too. Hillary On Aug 22, 2:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris ~ Yes, I'd enjoy writing about our ideas and plans! Because our space hasn't opened yet (Jan 2008), entries will probably be few this year, and increase as our membership grows... Kara Dugaw Office Nomads --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworker Agreement
alex, you might find some useful info by googling around for sublease agreements. since they are usually one-on-one agreements, they might have some of the pieces you're wanting. http://www.ilrg.com/forms/ good luck! and congrats again on opening independents hall! hillary On Aug 5, 7:49 am, Alex Hillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is EXACTLY what I am seeking out...and if it doesn't exist, I'm happy to share what we do create. I don't want this to be more than a couple of pages, as Nathaniel suggested, and I don't want it to be full of legalese, because frankly, I don't speak it well myself. What it DOES need is to be protective of both our interests as the space facilitators, as well as our coworkers, their equipment, and their clients . I'd be naive to believe that there will not be issues, while these are all upstanding people (at least they haven't defaulted in any way in the last 5-6 months of interaction), in the real world: sh*t happens. I'm not looking to cover every single corner case in this agreement...the FAQ format is exactly what I had envisioned, with a spot to sign/print your name, put a checkbox next to the plan you are agreeing to, and that's it. The terms of use that I have ARE quite a few pages of legalese, but can be broken down into very simple things like: be courteous be kind don't leave your garbage around don't abuse our resources in short: don't be an idiot. These are simple social graces, but as we all know, common sense isn't necessarily common and with a model that allows walk-ins off the street, we need to have rules set forth...again, not to cover corner cases, it's more to cover basic liability, and agree to a structure (simple as it may be) set forth. I've already got said outline started, I'll get a couple of more contributions of ideas from our team and post them here, perhaps we can all work together to cut out cruft and really target the points that are important. Thanks guys. -Alex On 8/5/07, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also the matter of liability, which is probably of serious importance. That is, should anything happen to a tenant's things (theft, damage, fire/disaster, etc) that Alex or the landlord should have minimal responsibility -- essentially that the tenants are responsible for securing their effects. In adition to that, as you've mentioned, setting up a pay schedule and remedies for tardy payments is probably a good idea, as well as reserving the right to change the rent with a certain number of days' notice and so on. Ideally this document could be written like an FAQ or memorandum of understanding -- or even a simple letter that should be signed by each tenant. While lengthy agreements with legalese are in vogue, I wouldn't mind seeing a gentler kind of document that sets out the right bits, but in a readable, conversational tone, and that doesn't necessarily go into all the myriad possibilites of things that could wrong and disclaims them, but instead lays things out clearly and in the interest of shared understanding. Given that, Alex, maybe you could list things, in outline form, that you think must be covered by such a document? Chris Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2007, at 11:28 PM, NathanaelB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so the purpose of the agreement is to, what, ensure the lease payments are met? Are you concerned that they won't be? Would some sort of leasesure insurance/protection be an acceptable substitute? I don't have or know of anything - but if it's only for the landlord's peace of mind then you won't need anything overly complex. As long as it's an agreement that commits parties to a certain level ($ or %) of contributions for a minimum period of time and measures in place to handle inability to contribute to payments - should be sufficient; couple of pages? -- - -- - Alex Hillman web.developer.innovation.consultant vocal: 484.597.6256 digital: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | skype: dangerouslyawesome visual:www.weknowhtml.com|www.dangerouslyawesome.com local:www.independentshall.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Coworking wiki password
Rachel, did you see Tara's reply to Scott? Anyhoo, it's c0w0rking -- with zeros. hillary On Jul 15, 10:44 am, Rachel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Scott - Did you get any answers? I'm running in to the same issue - I thought it might be because I'd left the ! off the end, but that didn't do the trick... Thanks - Rachel Scott Harrington wrote: Can someone help me with the password to the coworking wiki site. The site says the password is: coworking I get an error each time I try using that login. Help! Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---