[Coworking] Re: Coworking COVID-19 Survival Guide

[Teresa Carbajal Ravet, M.A.]

Thank you Bernhard, 

There are several coworking spaces in Hays County, Texas (in the Texas Hill 
Country), this is the Operational Guidance for this area to add to your 
Survival Guide as you see fit. 

Texas, Hays County (Dripping Springs, Kyle, Buda, San Marcos areas) 

State Executive Orders effective midnight Friday, March 20 through midnight 
on Friday, April 3, will bring the state in line with CDC guidelines to 
help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

   - schools to be closed statewide until at least April 3,
   - ban on dine-in eating and gathering in groups of more than 10,
   - shut down gyms and bars, and 
   - ban visits to nursing and retirement homes unless there is a critical 
   need.
   
Order from Hays County Judge, Ruben Becerra, in conjunction with city 
Mayors of Hays County, adds, 

   - closing daycare centers throughout the county for the time period,
   - encourages social distancing for events exempted from the gathering 
   requirement, and
   - prohibits any public or private community gatherings anywhere in Hays 
   County, including weddings, religious gatherings, parties, funerals, 
   sporting events, social events, conferences, and other large gatherings.

The prohibition does not include office spaces or residential 
buildings; grocery stores, gas stations or banks; hospitals, medical 
offices and facilities; and essential business or governmental functions.

For these, Hays County makes the following social distancing 
recommendations, 

Vulnerable populations: Limit outings

   - Vulnerable populations include those 60 and older and those with 
   certain health conditions such as heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, 
   kidney disease, and weakened immune systems
   - Don't go to gatherings of 10 or more unless essential
   - Telecommute if possible
   - Avoid those who are sick
   
Workplace and businesses: Minimize exposure

   - Suspend non-essential employee travel
   - Minimize number of employees working within arm's length of one 
   another, including minimizing or canceling large in-person meetings and 
   conferences
   - Urge employees to stay home when they're sick
   - Maximize flexibility in sick leave benefits
   - Permit sick employees to stay home without providing doctor's notes
   - Consider use of telecommuting options
   - Some who need to be at work to provide essential services can take 
   steps in their workplace to minimize risk
   
Large gatherings: Cancel nonessential events

   - Recommend canceling or postponing large gatherings
   - Do not attend any events or gatherings if sick
   - Events that aren't canceled should have hand-washing capabilities, 
   hand sanitizers and tissues available; frequently clean high-touch surfaces 
   like countertops, doorknobs and handrails; and find ways to create physical 
   space to minimize close contact
   
Schools: Safety first

   - Do not have your child attend school if sick
   - Consult child's doctor about school attendance if you have a child 
   with chronic health conditions
   - Frequent re-education of students and staff regarding personal hygiene 
   measures and ensuring that appropriate signs are posted
   - Equip all classrooms with hand sanitizers and tissues
   - Recommend rescheduling or canceling medium to large nonessential 
   events, even if events would otherwise comply with the order
   - Explore remote teaching and online options to continue learning
   - Develop a plan for citywide school closures
   


On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-5, Bernhard Mehl wrote:
>
> Started this Coworking COVID-19 Survival Guide - will update as we get 
> more info
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13I6xe0MzKN6n8Q_qijwxe3yOqYp5iAcgplH1IwffYJw/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: [Coworking] Coworking COVID-19 Survival Guide

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[Coworking] Coworking COVID-19 Survival Guide

[Bernhard Mehl]

Started this Coworking COVID-19 Survival Guide - will update as we get more 
info
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13I6xe0MzKN6n8Q_qijwxe3yOqYp5iAcgplH1IwffYJw/edit?usp=sharing

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[Coworking] Re: Work Permission Issues

[Jeannine van der Linden]

There are a number of issues related to this,and I think this is an 
important question which bears thought in a larger context as well.

Disclaimer:  as Will Bennis points out, this depends very much on your 
local laws and you should always consult a lawyer about legal questions.  *You 
will get better legal advice from your Aunt Fanny' s neighbor's stray cat 
than from the Internet,* do not seek legal advice on the Internet.

There are a number of things which coworking spaces in general are not 
liable for but nevertheless deal with:

Immigration
Civil RIghts
Equal Pay and labor laws
Pension and Healthcare benefit laws and Disability

There are also some laws which we are liable for but these laws are rarely 
enforced:

Postal laws/mail handling
Anti Money Laundering/Know Your Client/Anti Terrorism Financing
Privacy of information (GDPR for the Europeans)


For the first set of issues I think it is about your identity as a space 
and I think there is a great opportunity for coworking spaces to lead in 
this, I think it is important to think these questions out, to have a 
position before everything goes all wahooni shaped, and to communicate this 
both internally and externally.

This is in part why the European Coworking Assembly is working on a 
handbook to develop best practices in this area; it is why Cobot came out 
with its Code of Conduct https://coworkingcodeofconduct.org/ , it is why we 
are working on the #lovematija project to provide income security for 
freelancers and small business owners.

The second set of issues is about education and making sure your coworking 
space is in compliance with all the applicable laws; it is in part why the 
Assembly did its GDPR for Coworking series last year and is working on its 
Coworking Academy for people who run spaces.

We need to get together on these kinds of issues, there is a real 
opportunity here to lead in a rapidly changing world, and it should not be 
necessary to reinvent the wheel for everybody.

The legal aspects are of course important and I do not want to minimize 
those, but they are by definition local questions I think.  The larger 
picture is also important for us to think about.

Warm regards,

Jeannine
On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 3:48:16 PM UTC+2, Kimberly Kubalek wrote:
>
> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like 
> mine, run by expats in foreign countries. 
>
> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a 
> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew 
> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me 
> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened 
> my space 3 years ago. 
>
> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I 
> targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not 
> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed 
> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were 
> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure 
> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks 
> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come 
> in on a tourist visa and stay for years). 
>
> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I 
> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to 
> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in 
> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a 
> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are 
> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have 
> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your 
> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members 
> documents? Are you concerned about liability? 
>
> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I 
> do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people 
> breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where 
> they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What 
> do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to 
> work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter? 
>
> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever 
> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in 
> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not 
> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think 
> about? Does this issue concern you? 
>
> Thanks in advance for your feedback, 
>
>
> Kimberly 
>
>
>
> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>
> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>
> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>
> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
> +1 858 367 0102 

Re: [Coworking] Work Permission Issues

[Will Bennis, Locus Workspace]

Hi Kimberly,

I'm in pretty much the exact same situation you are except in Prague, Czech 
Republic and we've been running a bit longer (almost 10 years). 

My short answer is that this will very much depend on the country you're in 
and the particular laws (or lack of clarity of laws) about the necessary 
legal status of people using coworking spaces. IMO, you should talk to a 
local lawyer. We don't worry about it, but I could imagine it being a 
serious issue in some countries where the use of an office requires 
official registration.

My long answer is this: 

In most cases we don't have to worry about it at all. Along with expats and 
Czechs, we have tourists and travelers working from our coworking space on 
a regular basis. In most cases, there are no particular visa or residency 
requirements to use a coworking space any more than there would be for 
going to a restaurant.

The one exception are people who are using the space as a legally 
registered business address, in which case we do have to worry about it a 
little bit, but not because there's anything legally we're required to do. 
In those cases the main reason they're doing it is usually to establish 
residency. We occasionally have had the foreigners' police or immigration 
officials come to the coworking space to make sure the office is legitimate 
for those people using our address as a registered office. We even once had 
police come in with guns drawn because a member had his passport in the 
space and was stopped for not paying the right fair on the subway. He 
didn't speak Czech, they didn't speak English, and somehow they got it in 
their heads that they he was dangerous instead a somewhat clueless tourist.

All this is to say: while we never check about legal / immigration status 
of our members and I don't think we have any legal reason to, I have 
worried that police would to interfere with our business anyway, concerned 
that we're some kind of visa factory or host of illegal immigrants. There's 
enough immigration fear in the country and enough leeway in terms of what 
the govt. bureaucracy can and can't do, that I think there's good reason to 
worry. 

I could well imagine this being a more serious issue in countries with more 
corruption or where the rule of law is less clearly in place and, meaning 
no disrespect to Mexico, I imagine that's the case there. I think this 
would be something you'd want to discuss with a local lawyer to be sure you 
don't have anything to worry about. If Czech laws were slightly different, 
it would be something we'd at least have to think about with respect to 
folks using our space as a registered office.

Will


On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:46:53 PM UTC+1, sechrest wrote:
>
> I think it would be worth your while to explore and understand what the 
> folks at iglu.net have done in Chiang Mai. They do all the paperwork to 
> get you set up to work in Thailand as an ex-pat. 
>
> I think the issue you identify is a big one, currently under the radar for 
> many folks. 
>
> The hard part is that the rules about work are likely to take a long time 
> to change and adapt to the modern nomad work lifestyle. 
>
> It is also interesting to look at the work they are doing in Estonia to 
> provide paperwork and digital id to people who are doing this kind of work. 
> https://e-estonia.com/tag/nomad-visa/
>
> The choice of where to travel and where to work might start being 
> influenced by these types of policies. 
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 6:48 AM Kimberly Kubalek  > wrote:
>
>> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like 
>> mine, run by expats in foreign countries. 
>>
>> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a 
>> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew 
>> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me 
>> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened 
>> my space 3 years ago. 
>>
>> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, 
>> I targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not 
>> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed 
>> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were 
>> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure 
>> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks 
>> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come 
>> in on a tourist visa and stay for years). 
>>
>> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I 
>> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to 
>> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in 
>> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a 
>> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are 
>> 

Re: [Coworking] Work Permission Issues

[Alejandro Moreno]

These people are independent contractors. Immigration control is not your
role to play. All you do arguably is sublet space to tenants. How different
is this really from an Airbnb? When you go to rent a ''space'' from a
landlord in a foreign country, neither the landlord nor Airbnb cares how
you got there, because it's irrelevant. And whether it's for a day, a week
or a month is besides the point.

Additionally, let's say worst case scenario you start checking people's
work permits for Mexico in order to work at your space — what will happen
is you will be setting up a de facto legal precedent for your business,
thereby setting up a slippery slope of liability for yourself, and placing
yourself in a legal position that you never should've had to deal with or
be in, in the first place.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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ber...@berniejmitchell.com> wrote:

> This is a great question for the experience of @Jeannine van der Linden
>  and @Hector Kolonas 
>
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> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 14:48, Kimberly Kubalek 
> wrote:
>
>> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like
>> mine, run by expats in foreign countries.
>>
>> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a
>> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew
>> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me
>> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened
>> my space 3 years ago.
>>
>> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key,
>> I targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not
>> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed
>> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were
>> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure
>> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks
>> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come
>> in on a tourist visa and stay for years).
>>
>> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I
>> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to
>> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in
>> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a
>> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are
>> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have
>> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your
>> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members
>> documents? Are you concerned about liability?
>>
>> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space
>> owners. I do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for
>> people breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space
>> where they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see
>> visas?! What do you do to make sure the people working in your space
>> have the right to work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it
>> should matter?
>>
>> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever
>> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in
>> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not
>> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think
>> about? Does this issue concern you?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your feedback,
>>
>>
>> Kimberly
>>
>>
>>
>> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>>
>> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>>
>> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>>
>> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
>> +1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Work Permission Issues

[John Sechrest]

I think it would be worth your while to explore and understand what the
folks at iglu.net have done in Chiang Mai. They do all the paperwork to get
you set up to work in Thailand as an ex-pat.

I think the issue you identify is a big one, currently under the radar for
many folks.

The hard part is that the rules about work are likely to take a long time
to change and adapt to the modern nomad work lifestyle.

It is also interesting to look at the work they are doing in Estonia to
provide paperwork and digital id to people who are doing this kind of work.
https://e-estonia.com/tag/nomad-visa/

The choice of where to travel and where to work might start being
influenced by these types of policies.



On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 6:48 AM Kimberly Kubalek 
wrote:

> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like
> mine, run by expats in foreign countries.
>
> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a
> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew
> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me
> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened
> my space 3 years ago.
>
> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I
> targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not
> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed
> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were
> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure
> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks
> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come
> in on a tourist visa and stay for years).
>
> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I
> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to
> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in
> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a
> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are
> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have
> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your
> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members
> documents? Are you concerned about liability?
>
> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I
> do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people
> breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where
> they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What
> do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to
> work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter?
>
> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever
> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in
> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not
> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think
> about? Does this issue concern you?
>
> Thanks in advance for your feedback,
>
>
> Kimberly
>
>
>
> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>
> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>
> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>
> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
> +1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail
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Re: [Coworking] Work Permission Issues

['David Weekly' via Coworking]

If you are a person's employer, you absolutely must ensure that your
employees have work authorization or you might be in serious trouble.

But I have no idea why a coworking space would need to know your visa
status, any more than your morning coffee bar would need to ensure your
presence was legal before serving you a latte. Depending on local laws it
may be illegal for you to condition entry to the space on work status.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 06:48 Kimberly Kubalek 
wrote:

> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like
> mine, run by expats in foreign countries.
>
> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a
> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew
> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me
> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened
> my space 3 years ago.
>
> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I
> targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not
> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed
> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were
> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure
> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks
> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come
> in on a tourist visa and stay for years).
>
> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I
> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to
> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in
> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a
> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are
> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have
> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your
> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members
> documents? Are you concerned about liability?
>
> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I
> do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people
> breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where
> they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What
> do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to
> work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter?
>
> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever
> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in
> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not
> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think
> about? Does this issue concern you?
>
> Thanks in advance for your feedback,
>
>
> Kimberly
>
>
>
> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>
> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>
> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>
> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
> +1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail
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Re: [Coworking] Work Permission Issues

[Bernie J Mitchell]

This is a great question for the experience of @Jeannine van der Linden
 and @Hector Kolonas 

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 14:48, Kimberly Kubalek 
wrote:

> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like
> mine, run by expats in foreign countries.
>
> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a
> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew
> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me
> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened
> my space 3 years ago.
>
> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I
> targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not
> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed
> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were
> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure
> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks
> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come
> in on a tourist visa and stay for years).
>
> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I
> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to
> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in
> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a
> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are
> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have
> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your
> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members
> documents? Are you concerned about liability?
>
> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I
> do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people
> breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where
> they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What
> do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to
> work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter?
>
> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever
> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in
> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not
> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think
> about? Does this issue concern you?
>
> Thanks in advance for your feedback,
>
>
> Kimberly
>
>
>
> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>
> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>
> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>
> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
> +1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail
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[Coworking] Re: Work Permission Issues

[Alex Hillman]

Hi Kimberly - it seems like you might not be receiving my direct emails, 
I'm not sure why not though!

Your question is great and I want to make sure its seen by the most people, 
so I wanted you to post it to the new discussion platform at 
forum.coworking.org. That's taking the place of the Google group, which we 
will finish migrating very soon!

 I'll forward you the contents of your original post so you can copy it 
into the forum once you create an account there. 

Please let me know if you have any questions!

Alex

On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 9:48:16 AM UTC-4, Kimberly Kubalek wrote:
>
> This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like 
> mine, run by expats in foreign countries. 
>
> I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a 
> few months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew 
> after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me 
> many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened 
> my space 3 years ago. 
>
> Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I 
> targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not 
> say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed 
> to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were 
> successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure 
> helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks 
> moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come 
> in on a tourist visa and stay for years). 
>
> I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I 
> have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to 
> be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in 
> Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a 
> permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are 
> going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have 
> permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your 
> members when government officials come in and ask to see your members 
> documents? Are you concerned about liability? 
>
> I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I 
> do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people 
> breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where 
> they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What 
> do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to 
> work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter? 
>
> I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever 
> asked. Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in 
> the USA while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not 
> legally entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think 
> about? Does this issue concern you? 
>
> Thanks in advance for your feedback, 
>
>
> Kimberly 
>
>
>
> Kimberly Kubalek, Owner
>
> Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende
>
> +52 415 150 1069 MEX Office
>
> +52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
> +1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail
>

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[Coworking] Work Permission Issues

[Kimberly Kubalek]

This message is relevant to everyone, but particularly the spaces, like 
mine, run by expats in foreign countries. 

I have been a huge supporter of Coworking since I met Tony Bacigalupo a few 
months after he first opened his space in NYC so many years ago. I knew 
after seeing that space that I wanted to open a space as well. It took me 
many years, I did it. I live in San Miguel de Allende Mexico and I opened 
my space 3 years ago. 

Because my Spanish is poor, and because I knew community growth was key, I 
targeted membership to expats and English speaking visitors. Which is not 
say we limited it this way, only that the community I developed all seemed 
to speak English, so those were the members we attracted. We were 
successful - being the #1 rated city in the world by Travel + Leisure 
helped and lots of interesting folks popped in to work and often folks 
moved here permanently (with or without legal permission, many people come 
in on a tourist visa and stay for years). 

I am working on a plan for a much larger, more sophisticated space and I 
have concerns about expats and visitors who have no legal authorization to 
be "working" while in Mexico. Our laws are quite clear, you may not work in 
Mexico, online, in your home, etc., without authorization or without a 
permanent resident visa. I think all international coworking spaces are 
going to have to face this one. Do you ask your members if they have 
permission to work in your country? Do you feel you can protect your 
members when government officials come in and ask to see your members 
documents? Are you concerned about liability? 

I think this a valid concern and I'd like to hear from other space owners. I 
do not want to be a hunting ground for officials looking for people 
breaking the law - and who would want to work in a coworking space where 
they knew the government was going to come around and ask to see visas?! What 
do you do to make sure the people working in your space have the right to 
work there? Does it matter to you at all? Do you think it should matter? 

I was just in Austin for 3 months and coworked all over, no one ever asked. 
Not one coworking space ever asked if I had permission to work in the USA 
while I was there. If someone works out of your space and is not legally 
entiled to be working in your country, is that an issue you think about? 
Does this issue concern you? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback, 


Kimberly 



Kimberly Kubalek, Owner

Espacio Coworking - San Miguel de Allende

+52 415 150 1069 MEX Office

+52 415 167 4566 MEX Cell
+1 858 367 0102 USA Voicemail

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Membership numbers

[Marion roger]

卵亂

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 7:10 PM Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> This list is very much not dead, it just has a new home over at
> https://forum.coworking.org!
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Membership numbers

[Alex Hillman]

This list is very much not dead, it just has a new home over at
https://forum.coworking.org!

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Membership numbers

[Zach Hanna]

Not sure if this list is still dead.

However, I had been reading in a few places that Adam Neumann claims to
have invented coworking as a business modelin 2008.
But I can't find the actual quote.

Anyways, how is the list doing?







On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 6:31 PM Chris Messina 
wrote:

>
> It's also a matter of:
>
> 1. how much you need to make to keep the space open
> 2. what percentage of your desks you can afford to leave open for
> drop-ins both as a community gift and as a way of letting people try
> out your space without obligation
> 3. what percentage of your space should be devoted to full-time or
> regulars without making the drop-in space feel kind of awkward and an
> after thought...
>
> So I don't think that it's so much of a formula as I do a question of
> general feel/ambiance and what kind of space you want to run that will
> also sustain itself.
>
> At Citizen Space, we have about 8 full time desks that we rent out
> where people can leave things like displays, keyboards, books, etc...
> it's all in the open. We also have an additional eight seats in the
> back, spread over 4 desks. Anyone can use these desks; we also have an
> additional 4 seats over 2 desks in a closed "conversation room",
> providing a nice flex space for both full time, paying members, and
> for our drop-ins.
>
> Finding a mix between those two priorities I think is a good place to
> start... you can certainly charge for all your spaces, but in the
> beginning, depending on local demand and awareness, you might find
> that too high a barrier to entry to begin. It might be better to start
> with a hybrid model and as people fill in and book their spaces on a
> regular basis, convert free areas to meet the need that arises.
>
> Chris
>
> On 8/21/07, Tara Hunt  wrote:
> > I don't know if they are on the list, but you may want to chat with the
> > Workspace people in Vancouver...they must have some formula. Many of the
> > spaces I know of actually rent desks (and not just memberships) where
> people
> > can leave their stuff and, hence, don't double book.
> >
> > Workspace: http://abetterplacetowork.com/
> >
> >
> > Tara
> >
> > On 8/21/07, Susan Evans < susan.c.ev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all space owners out there,
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a good formula for balancing out the number of
> > > memberships available for sale for coworking with the number of desk
> > > spaces available?  Office Nomads (Seattle) is working on determining a
> > > sustainable number of memberships to make available, recognizing that
> > > number can be higher than the number of actual desk spaces we will
> > > have.  Any suggestions?  Success stories?  Helpful learning
> > > experiences?
> > >
> > > Many thanks!
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com)
> > > blog: www.horsepigcow.com
> > > phone: 415-694-1951
> > > fax: 415-727-5335
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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[Coworking] Plan your exit or growth. We're live with a place to buy and sell your coworking space

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

I've been in the coworking industry for over 9 years and I'm tired of 
seeing spaces close down and communities get broken up. Succession planning 
is something we've been kind of bad at, and it's difficult to talk about.

DenSwap , a marketplace to buy or sell your *coworking 
business*, is now live with listings across the US. If you are looking to 
grow your business through acquisition or if you want to cash out while 
keeping your people together then check it out. We are making it easier to 
get connected with growing chains or investors that want to enter the 
coworking industry. We want to match the right space with the right 
entrepreneur that will move your space forward.

Here is a sample listing of a good space in Seattle that is selling for 
$59,000 


Here is another one in Austin that has a strong community, very profitable, 
and selling for $445,000 


If you do want to list, know that you are not required to share the name of 
your space away. You are also not required to accept any offers. You set 
your own price.

*Do you want to know how much your space is worth?* Check out a coworking 
valuation calculator we created at www.denswap.com/calculator.html

I am here to answer as many questions as possible about this. Please shoot 
away. I've been in the industry for over 9 years as a community manager and 
owner of my own space. I believe that communication and knowledge sharing 
are the things that have made this such a special industry to be a part of.

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[Coworking] Re: We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

If you sold a coworking space, I would love to know your motives and how 
much work you put into it. I created a quick 9 question survey. It's quick 
and will be incredibly helpful on understanding what your process was and 
why you decided to sell.
>
>
https://craigmbaute.typeform.com/to/Xdltl0

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[Coworking] Re: We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

This is mostly a US focused project. We want to get the buying and selling 
figured out in the US. However, we are accepting international places. We 
just won't be putting in the effort to attract those buyers right now 
beyond just SEO.
>
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Bassey Duke]

Hi, is this targeted for only the US market or will be a global product
offering?

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 4:54 PM Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking <
baut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joshua,
>
> I think we corrected the issue. People can only create accounts right now,
> but the marketplace isn't open. We are just getting spaces and buyers to
> create profiles and space listings. We want to talk to each person directly
> with an account manager to better understand their goals and help determine
> a more detailed valuation. We expect the marketplace to launch in September
> and then everyone will be able to see the listings and start communicating
> through the platform.
>
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[Coworking] Re: We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

Joshua,

I think we corrected the issue. People can only create accounts right now, 
but the marketplace isn't open. We are just getting spaces and buyers to 
create profiles and space listings. We want to talk to each person directly 
with an account manager to better understand their goals and help determine 
a more detailed valuation. We expect the marketplace to launch in September 
and then everyone will be able to see the listings and start communicating 
through the platform.


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Re: [Coworking] We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Bassey Duke]

I think this is an excellent idea.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 8:43 PM Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking <
baut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John and I, a current and former coworking space owner, are tired of
> seeing friends close their coworking spaces. It just happened again last
> month with a friend in Washington. It’s been happening for years now as
> more coworking spaces turn 3,5, or even 10 years old. Most of the spaces
> that are closing aren’t losing a lot of money, or making a lot of money.
> The spaces are closing because they fall in the break-even area and the
> coworking business is not the sole focus of the owner.
>
> It’s a side hobby. The spaces were started because the owner wanted to
> create a cool place for a community to form, and make some money. However,
> leases come up every few years and they have to make a decision. Is running
> the space worth my time? Can I keep putting in effort into building this
> community?
>
>
> More often than not, if the owner decides they can’t put in the time /
> effort / emotional energy they just close the coworking space . The
> community that has been built over the years, the friendships that have
> been created, and ideas hatched between coffees are dispersed and go in
> search of a new home.
>
>
> *It doesn’t have to be this way.*
>
>
> We, the coworking industry, need a matchmaking service. We need a place
> that will help match owners that love coworking but are ready to move on to
> new opportunities with people that are excited to keep the business and
> community moving forward.
>
> That’s why we spent the last few months creating DenSwap
> . It’s a marketplace for space owners to list
> their coworking business and be matched up with existing space owners,
> property owners, or others that are excited about the coworking movement.
> DenSwap will help spaces determine the value of their coworking business,
> understand the community, and what the owner’s priorities are in their
> exit. We’ll then take all of that info and help matchmake them with a buyer
> that has the same goals.
>
>
> Right now, DenSwap is pre-launch phase as we line up spaces and investors.
> People can sign up right now to list their space or register as a buyer.
> Once we have enough spaces signed up, we’ll launch the marketplace. We
> expect that to happen in September. We already have a few buyers in the
> system.
>
>
> Please check out DenSwap and reach out if you have any questions. My
> partners and I are passionate about the coworking industry and want our
> communities to succeed. We think having a matchmaking service from people
> that understand the coworking industry is an important part of the maturing
> industry.
>
> If you want to see how much your coworking space might be worth, go to
> www.denswap.com/calculator.html
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Re: [Coworking] We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[OLAOYE Seun]

This is great !
I hope this wil benefits soem of us start-ups.
I  willng to partner,  collaborate with goal orinented investor.
There is great oppprutnity here in my country.

Happy with what you have come up with.





On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 10:38 AM Joshua Webb,  wrote:

> Signup page was a 404 when I looked just now.
>
> Joshua Webb
> Founder, Coach, International Speaker
> jos...@growthli.com
>
> 844-455-GROW (4769)
> https://growthli.com
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 2:43 PM Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking <
> baut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John and I, a current and former coworking space owner, are tired of
>> seeing friends close their coworking spaces. It just happened again last
>> month with a friend in Washington. It’s been happening for years now as
>> more coworking spaces turn 3,5, or even 10 years old. Most of the spaces
>> that are closing aren’t losing a lot of money, or making a lot of money.
>> The spaces are closing because they fall in the break-even area and the
>> coworking business is not the sole focus of the owner.
>>
>> It’s a side hobby. The spaces were started because the owner wanted to
>> create a cool place for a community to form, and make some money. However,
>> leases come up every few years and they have to make a decision. Is running
>> the space worth my time? Can I keep putting in effort into building this
>> community?
>>
>>
>> More often than not, if the owner decides they can’t put in the time /
>> effort / emotional energy they just close the coworking space . The
>> community that has been built over the years, the friendships that have
>> been created, and ideas hatched between coffees are dispersed and go in
>> search of a new home.
>>
>>
>> *It doesn’t have to be this way.*
>>
>>
>> We, the coworking industry, need a matchmaking service. We need a place
>> that will help match owners that love coworking but are ready to move on to
>> new opportunities with people that are excited to keep the business and
>> community moving forward.
>>
>> That’s why we spent the last few months creating DenSwap
>> . It’s a marketplace for space owners to list
>> their coworking business and be matched up with existing space owners,
>> property owners, or others that are excited about the coworking movement.
>> DenSwap will help spaces determine the value of their coworking business,
>> understand the community, and what the owner’s priorities are in their
>> exit. We’ll then take all of that info and help matchmake them with a buyer
>> that has the same goals.
>>
>>
>> Right now, DenSwap is pre-launch phase as we line up spaces and
>> investors. People can sign up right now to list their space or register as
>> a buyer. Once we have enough spaces signed up, we’ll launch the
>> marketplace. We expect that to happen in September. We already have a few
>> buyers in the system.
>>
>>
>> Please check out DenSwap and reach out if you have any questions. My
>> partners and I are passionate about the coworking industry and want our
>> communities to succeed. We think having a matchmaking service from people
>> that understand the coworking industry is an important part of the maturing
>> industry.
>>
>> If you want to see how much your coworking space might be worth, go to
>> www.denswap.com/calculator.html
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Re: [Coworking] We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll go and find the page and correct it.

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Re: [Coworking] We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Joshua Webb]

Signup page was a 404 when I looked just now.

Joshua Webb
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On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 2:43 PM Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking <
baut...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John and I, a current and former coworking space owner, are tired of
> seeing friends close their coworking spaces. It just happened again last
> month with a friend in Washington. It’s been happening for years now as
> more coworking spaces turn 3,5, or even 10 years old. Most of the spaces
> that are closing aren’t losing a lot of money, or making a lot of money.
> The spaces are closing because they fall in the break-even area and the
> coworking business is not the sole focus of the owner.
>
> It’s a side hobby. The spaces were started because the owner wanted to
> create a cool place for a community to form, and make some money. However,
> leases come up every few years and they have to make a decision. Is running
> the space worth my time? Can I keep putting in effort into building this
> community?
>
>
> More often than not, if the owner decides they can’t put in the time /
> effort / emotional energy they just close the coworking space . The
> community that has been built over the years, the friendships that have
> been created, and ideas hatched between coffees are dispersed and go in
> search of a new home.
>
>
> *It doesn’t have to be this way.*
>
>
> We, the coworking industry, need a matchmaking service. We need a place
> that will help match owners that love coworking but are ready to move on to
> new opportunities with people that are excited to keep the business and
> community moving forward.
>
> That’s why we spent the last few months creating DenSwap
> . It’s a marketplace for space owners to list
> their coworking business and be matched up with existing space owners,
> property owners, or others that are excited about the coworking movement.
> DenSwap will help spaces determine the value of their coworking business,
> understand the community, and what the owner’s priorities are in their
> exit. We’ll then take all of that info and help matchmake them with a buyer
> that has the same goals.
>
>
> Right now, DenSwap is pre-launch phase as we line up spaces and investors.
> People can sign up right now to list their space or register as a buyer.
> Once we have enough spaces signed up, we’ll launch the marketplace. We
> expect that to happen in September. We already have a few buyers in the
> system.
>
>
> Please check out DenSwap and reach out if you have any questions. My
> partners and I are passionate about the coworking industry and want our
> communities to succeed. We think having a matchmaking service from people
> that understand the coworking industry is an important part of the maturing
> industry.
>
> If you want to see how much your coworking space might be worth, go to
> www.denswap.com/calculator.html
>
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[Coworking] We created a marketplace for coworking business because I'm tired of seeing coworking spaces close down.

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

John and I, a current and former coworking space owner, are tired of seeing 
friends close their coworking spaces. It just happened again last month 
with a friend in Washington. It’s been happening for years now as more 
coworking spaces turn 3,5, or even 10 years old. Most of the spaces that 
are closing aren’t losing a lot of money, or making a lot of money. The 
spaces are closing because they fall in the break-even area and the 
coworking business is not the sole focus of the owner.

It’s a side hobby. The spaces were started because the owner wanted to 
create a cool place for a community to form, and make some money. However, 
leases come up every few years and they have to make a decision. Is running 
the space worth my time? Can I keep putting in effort into building this 
community?


More often than not, if the owner decides they can’t put in the time / 
effort / emotional energy they just close the coworking space . The 
community that has been built over the years, the friendships that have 
been created, and ideas hatched between coffees are dispersed and go in 
search of a new home.


*It doesn’t have to be this way.*


We, the coworking industry, need a matchmaking service. We need a place 
that will help match owners that love coworking but are ready to move on to 
new opportunities with people that are excited to keep the business and 
community moving forward.

That’s why we spent the last few months creating DenSwap 
. It’s a marketplace for space owners to list 
their coworking business and be matched up with existing space owners, 
property owners, or others that are excited about the coworking movement. 
DenSwap will help spaces determine the value of their coworking business, 
understand the community, and what the owner’s priorities are in their 
exit. We’ll then take all of that info and help matchmake them with a buyer 
that has the same goals.


Right now, DenSwap is pre-launch phase as we line up spaces and investors. 
People can sign up right now to list their space or register as a buyer. 
Once we have enough spaces signed up, we’ll launch the marketplace. We 
expect that to happen in September. We already have a few buyers in the 
system.


Please check out DenSwap and reach out if you have any questions. My 
partners and I are passionate about the coworking industry and want our 
communities to succeed. We think having a matchmaking service from people 
that understand the coworking industry is an important part of the maturing 
industry.

If you want to see how much your coworking space might be worth, go to 
www.denswap.com/calculator.html

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Re: [Coworking] 10 Day Passes for the Month - How to control this?

[Alex Linsker]

I tell people it's an honor system, they self track. Works great. We have 
Community Guidelines (a code of conduct) which filters out people who can't do 
this before they would join.

One person for one month went over one time and that was clear that month. I 
think in years, that's the only time that happened. 

We have 3 hours per day included no charge in conference rooms/phone 
rooms/building areas outside our suite, and violations of that have been more 
common but also rare.

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Coworking Values: Differentiating Openness and Accessibility

[Alex Linsker]

I'd encourage you to find the values that are core to your community, and 
values that are core to you, and be aware of the two sets, and write it 
publicly. For example: https://collectiveagency.co/who-we-are/

An answer to your question is in the last two sentences of that page (I wasn't 
sure either of those values would be there. If you want to use these sentences 
or something very similar anywhere for your business or community, please link 
to our site just as prominently.)

"It’s important to members that we are all treated the same when we’re here, 
with the same access to everything. Everybody is worthy of being here." Access, 
and openness.

-Alex Linsker, Collective Agency, Portland Oregon

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[Coworking] Asses the value of a coworking space

[Uwe]

Dear coworking community, 

I am brainstorming several options regarding our coworking space, either 
buying out partners, selling shares and/or developing new strategies for 
the future. No matter of how I'am looking at it, it basically falls back to 
one question: *How to asses the value of a coworking space?*

Of course there are different possibilities to asses the value of a 
business. We have heard that it is usual to asses the monetary value by 
taking the turnover of the previous twelve months and multiply the number 
by four. 
I would love to learn the common ways of financially evaluating a coworking 
space according to the standards of this industry. 

Another questions connected to the above is: *What the pitfalls are buying 
a coworking space?* - I'd be curious on your opinion, if you want to share!

I am looking forward hearing back from you and to get to know your opinion. 

All the best to you! 
Uwe 

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Coworking Values: Differentiating Openness and Accessibility

[Jerome Chang]

This behavioral discussion translates well to the physical realm. In 
architecture, accessibility is a legal term and is about barrier-free design, 
to allow disabled bodies of all types to use the space as with anyone else. 

The converse is inclusive design, which also translates well back to behavior. 
You may have thought you were accessible, but you may not necessarily have been 
inclusive. 

Design for the most disabled, and you'll have beneficially designed for all. 

Embrace for the least empowered and you'll have accommodated all levels of 
power and privilege. 

Jerome, architect
www.BLANKSPACES.com

On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Alex Hillman  wrote:

>> The two go hand in hand.  Being open, but not accessible does little good 
>> because people can't take advantage of the openness.  Being accessible but 
>> not open is just rude. 
> 
> I think this is a very keen observation, and quite right. 
> 
> The key context for open when it was being attributed as a core value was 
> references from the Open Source Software world where a lot of early coworking 
> folks came from. Open Source software culture is informed by ideas and ideals 
> that, frankly, subvert a lot of the transactional nature of business. In this 
> context, openness leans more towards a kind of generosity that doesn't always 
> show up in business or business cultures. 
> 
> I recently listened to a keynote about these themes that reminded me...I 
> hadn't really heard these themes clearly articulated in a while. Don't be 
> scared off by the fact that the keynote is from a software conference, the 
> keynote is not technical in any way but more of a commentary on culture, 
> business, and the complex value of "open" as it was intended to describe 
> coworking. https://rework.fm/open-source-beyond-the-market/
> 
> In my opinion, accessibility has a lot more meaning today than it did when it 
> was first used to describe coworking. Early on, I think it was simply about 
> the removal of visible gatekeepers. Again, remember, many coworking pioneers 
> were corporate outcasts of sorts. Accessibility was, in many ways, about who 
> you were (or were not) actively trying to keep out. So in those early days, 
> it was more about eschewing credentials and applications in favor of "if you 
> show up, you're welcome."
> 
> In hindsight, though, I don't think it accessibility as a coworking core 
> value really addressed the subtle, less visible gatekeepers of power and 
> privilege. The door was open, but we didn't always do a good job of 
> proactively inviting folks who weren't showing up or asking why they weren't 
> showing up in the first place. I'm personally guilty of this, and have done a 
> lot of work personally and organizationally to take a much more proactive 
> stance on accessibility. 
> 
> I hope this helps! I think having core values that are open to some 
> interpretation is why they're not "core rules." Asking what they actually 
> mean, and how the meaning has changed over time, is part of why they're 
> valuable. 
> 
> -Alex
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Coworking Values: Differentiating Openness and Accessibility

[Alex Hillman]

>
> The two go hand in hand.  Being open, but not accessible does little good
> because people can't take advantage of the openness.  Being accessible but
> not open is just rude.


I think this is a very keen observation, and quite right.

The key context for *open* when it was being attributed as a core value was
references from the Open Source Software world where a lot of early
coworking folks came from. Open Source software culture is informed by
ideas and ideals that, frankly, subvert a lot of the transactional nature
of business. In this context, openness leans more towards a kind of
generosity that doesn't always show up in business or business cultures.

I recently listened to a keynote about these themes that reminded me...I
hadn't really heard these themes clearly articulated in a while. Don't be
scared off by the fact that the keynote is from a software conference, the
keynote is not technical in any way but more of a commentary on culture,
business, and the complex value of "open" as it was intended to describe
coworking. https://rework.fm/open-source-beyond-the-market/

In my opinion, *accessibility *has a lot more meaning today than it did
when it was first used to describe coworking. Early on, I think it was
simply about the removal of *visible *gatekeepers. Again, remember, many
coworking pioneers were corporate outcasts of sorts. Accessibility was, in
many ways, about who you were (or were not) actively trying to keep out. So
in those early days, it was more about eschewing credentials and
applications in favor of "if you show up, you're welcome."

In hindsight, though, I don't think it accessibility as a coworking core
value really addressed the subtle, less visible gatekeepers of power and
privilege. The door was open, but we didn't always do a good job of
proactively inviting folks who weren't showing up or asking why they
weren't showing up in the first place. I'm personally guilty of this, and
have done a lot of work personally and organizationally to take a much more
proactive stance on accessibility

.

I hope this helps! I think having core values that are open to some
interpretation is why they're not "core rules." Asking what they actually
mean, and how the meaning has changed over time, is part of why they're
valuable.

-Alex

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[Coworking] Re: Coworking Values: Differentiating Openness and Accessibility

[Julia Ferguson]

As follow up to my original post, I'm hoping some who have been doing this 
coworking bit longer than I can also clarify what was meant when those 
values were identified. 

On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 1:10:47 PM UTC-4, Julia Ferguson wrote:
>
> Hello all.  
>
> We're updating our website, which has me reviewing our current content.  
> We're just wrapping up a branding exercise that have given us some good 
> language we can use to talk about who we are and what it's like to cowork 
> with us.  We have always said we embrace the five values of coworking, 
> established in the movements early days:  collaboration, openness, 
> community, accessibility, and sustainability and we've tried to say what 
> that means to us and how they apply to our every day operations and how our 
> members relate to each other.  I've always had trouble with openness and 
> accessibility.  In many ways they seem the same to me.  In fact, if you 
> look up "openness", one of the words used in its definition is 
> "accessible".  I've read what I can (including Alex Hillman's great posts 
> from 2011 and am still struggling. I would like your thoughts. 
>
> Here's what I have so far:
>
> >> Being open is about sharing, about being authentic, ready to learn new 
> things, accepting of others, listening to other perspectives.  
> >> Being accessible is about how easy it is for others to reach you in 
> your open state, how easy you make it for others to hear and understand 
> your ideas and perspectives.  
>
> The two go hand in hand.  Being open, but not accessible does little good 
> because people can't take advantage of the openness.  Being accessible but 
> not open is just rude. 
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Julia
>
>

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[Coworking] Re: summer slowdown?

[AK]

Thanks everyone! --Keep the ideas flowing. Just had a person take a 
"hiatus" because he enjoys sitting on his deck and working on his laptop. 
Not much networking there, but its more scenic.

I like the STEM idea, but not sure about how to do this in a non-school 
setting. Seems to need alot of ramp up time, too.

Thus summer slowdown seems to be a real challenge for the small operator.

AL

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[Coworking] Re: summer slowdown?

[Jeannine van der Linden]

Summer slowdown is very common here as well.  I generally schedule repairs 
and maintenance for the space in the Summer for this reason.  We also go on 
half-staff for the Summer.  So I generally send out a communication about a 
month before the vacation, setting out the opening times andother details 
about a month in advance, and we put a sign up which says that we are on 
vacation shift :-).

This makes everything clear and also avoids frustration when/if there is a 
delay in response to emails, bookings, or other communications.

We have done various things during the Summer, like offering the space to 
more social events and party rates and so on; if we are doing this then I 
put that in the summer vacation notice also.  But motly it has not gotten a 
ton of traction because, well, folks are on vacation.  People do like the 
party rates though, we get a lot of summer parties.  :-)

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[Coworking] Re: summer slowdown?

[McKenna Yoder]

Hi, AK! 

We recently had an online call discussion specifically on this topic. Some 
great ways to beat the "summer slow-down" include offering part-time 
memberships, connect with AirBnb's, take advantage of local events, allow a 
bring-a-friend day, and partner with youth organizations in your community. 
If you'd like to read into each idea in more depth you can check out the 
blog post we created to recap the "5 Ways to Beat the Summer Slow-Down 
".
 
Hope this helps give you some ideas! Congrats on recently opening! :) 

-McKenna 

On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 8:18:06 AM UTC-6, AK wrote:
>
> Hi...we just opened 3 months ago and got off to a decent start, but now 
> with Summer coming, I am seeing a drop off in interest and space use.  I'm 
> looking for ideas to overcome this and grow this summer.
>
> Is it common to see summer slowdown?  We're a small place, so having fewer 
> people is noticable by others in the space and those who visit.  ( It may 
> look like we are not doing well)  - Any advice is appreciated
>
> Al
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Re: [Coworking] summer slowdown?

[Alejandro Moreno]

Yes, we have experienced summer slowdowns at our space. Our
county/community is the oldest (median age wise) in the Bay Area, so we
have lots of people who have kids and grandkids, kids home from college etc.

So summertime frequently brings other priorities.

Besides letting people know that there's a natural slowdown every summer,
as long as you have the space/facilities for it, I would do some things
like and not limited to the following:
 lunch & learns, wine tastings, yoga classes, live music night/jam,
hackathons, maybe a STEM night or Maker Faire, startup pitch and feedback
sessions, cannabis talks if you're in a state where it's being legalized
and what the opportunities/implications might be, etc etc.

Look at other coworking space websites to see what they're doing
activity-wise.

Alejandro Moreno S. 
Cofounder/VP VenturePad 
SEC Marin  Organizer
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:18 AM AK  wrote:

> Hi...we just opened 3 months ago and got off to a decent start, but now
> with Summer coming, I am seeing a drop off in interest and space use.  I'm
> looking for ideas to overcome this and grow this summer.
>
> Is it common to see summer slowdown?  We're a small place, so having fewer
> people is noticable by others in the space and those who visit.  ( It may
> look like we are not doing well)  - Any advice is appreciated
>
> Al
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[Coworking] summer slowdown?

[AK]

Hi...we just opened 3 months ago and got off to a decent start, but now 
with Summer coming, I am seeing a drop off in interest and space use.  I'm 
looking for ideas to overcome this and grow this summer.

Is it common to see summer slowdown?  We're a small place, so having fewer 
people is noticable by others in the space and those who visit.  ( It may 
look like we are not doing well)  - Any advice is appreciated

Al

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Re: [Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Sphere Mail]

Agree with Jerome, and I would add to that is that you would qualify for
SBA if you occupy only 51% of the building as a coworking space and rest
can remain as regular tenants if they already exist, say hair salon or a
retail store, office etc.

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On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 1:10 PM Sphere Mail 
wrote:

> I managed to acquire two buildings through SBA as a coworking space
> operation. One thing you need to make sure is that you make it clear to the
> bank that it is not a landlord/tenant relationship but rather a membership
> based service similar to a gym membership. In addition you are offering
> other services such as virtual mail, visrtual office, conference room
> rentals by the hour, and you may add a coffee stand as well, selling
> coffee. Banks still need to be educated in this regard. If the bank you're
> working not convinced go to another bank.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>  My Best,
> *Hasan Mirjan*
> *SphereMail.co *
> Santa Monica,CA
> US: +1 888 818 6477
> UK: +44 1423 222437
>
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>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:49 AM Denis Clijsters 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a plan!
>>
>> Actually that's more or less the set-up we have now.
>>
>> I own the building 50/50 with an investor, and I own the coworking 50/50
>> with another person and we lease and sublease the space, furnish it and
>> organise activities etc... So it's a little more dubious. But good plan to
>> always refer to memberships on our contracts and invoices (I'll have to run
>> that by our attorney though first)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jerome Chang 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please be careful when you say “rent” as that invokes state regulations
>>> regarding your “tenant’s” occupancy.
>>> Most/all coworking spaces uses “memberships” like one would join a
>>> country club.
>>> Therefore, to get this 504 loan, I would recommend using another LLC to
>>> legally “rent” out the entire building, then have this LLC provide
>>> memberships to these member occupants.
>>>
>>> Now, the bank should see that you, via your new LLC, are indeed
>>> occupying >50% of the building. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *JEROME CHANG*
>>>
>>> talk to us: (323) 330-9505
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Denis Clijsters 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Scott, I would be curious to know how your experience went!
>>>
>>> I'm currently starting up a coworking space, we already own the building
>>> but we're looking for money for renovations. One part I inquired for are
>>> solar panels, and the 504 sba green loan, but there I've been denied
>>> because I don't occupy the building myself for +50%, since we rent out to
>>> individual businesses, and gradually as we're expanding, more and more to
>>> coworking members.
>>>
>>> I agree with your reasoning that coworking isn't just real estate, but
>>> it's a business in itself that definitely isn't a passive investment!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Denis
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
>>> sc...@beahivebzzz.com> wrote:
>>>
 I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan
  to
 purchase the building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that
 coworking isn’t eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in
 real estate in which we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent
 businesses that provide services directly to the public.

 I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call
 it passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?

 Thanks!
 scott.

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Re: [Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Sphere Mail]

I managed to acquire two buildings through SBA as a coworking space
operation. One thing you need to make sure is that you make it clear to the
bank that it is not a landlord/tenant relationship but rather a membership
based service similar to a gym membership. In addition you are offering
other services such as virtual mail, visrtual office, conference room
rentals by the hour, and you may add a coffee stand as well, selling
coffee. Banks still need to be educated in this regard. If the bank you're
working not convinced go to another bank.

Hope this helps.

 My Best,
*Hasan Mirjan*
*SphereMail.co *
Santa Monica,CA
US: +1 888 818 6477
UK: +44 1423 222437

*PATENT PENDING U.S. 62672753*

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:49 AM Denis Clijsters 
wrote:

> Sounds like a plan!
>
> Actually that's more or less the set-up we have now.
>
> I own the building 50/50 with an investor, and I own the coworking 50/50
> with another person and we lease and sublease the space, furnish it and
> organise activities etc... So it's a little more dubious. But good plan to
> always refer to memberships on our contracts and invoices (I'll have to run
> that by our attorney though first)
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jerome Chang 
> wrote:
>
>> Please be careful when you say “rent” as that invokes state regulations
>> regarding your “tenant’s” occupancy.
>> Most/all coworking spaces uses “memberships” like one would join a
>> country club.
>> Therefore, to get this 504 loan, I would recommend using another LLC to
>> legally “rent” out the entire building, then have this LLC provide
>> memberships to these member occupants.
>>
>> Now, the bank should see that you, via your new LLC, are indeed occupying
>> >50% of the building. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> *JEROME CHANG*
>>
>> talk to us: (323) 330-9505
>> chat w/ us: http://www.BLANKSPACES.com/chat
>> 
>>
>> *Santa Monica* | *Culver City* | *Downtown LA* |* Pasadena*
>> *NOW OPEN: Larchmont | Irvine*
>> *OPENING SOON: **Long Beach*
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Denis Clijsters 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott, I would be curious to know how your experience went!
>>
>> I'm currently starting up a coworking space, we already own the building
>> but we're looking for money for renovations. One part I inquired for are
>> solar panels, and the 504 sba green loan, but there I've been denied
>> because I don't occupy the building myself for +50%, since we rent out to
>> individual businesses, and gradually as we're expanding, more and more to
>> coworking members.
>>
>> I agree with your reasoning that coworking isn't just real estate, but
>> it's a business in itself that definitely isn't a passive investment!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Denis
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
>> sc...@beahivebzzz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan
>>>  to purchase
>>> the building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that coworking
>>> isn’t eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in real
>>> estate in which we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent
>>> businesses that provide services directly to the public.
>>>
>>> I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call it
>>> passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> scott.
>>>
>>>   - ---
>>> *SCOTT TILLITT*
>>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>>> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn
>>>   //  917.449.6356
>>>
>>> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work +
>>> community + possibilities
>>>
>>> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //
>>>  communications + projects for a better world
>>>
>>>
>>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
>>> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from
>>> the synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person."
>>> — Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Denis Clijsters]

Sounds like a plan!

Actually that's more or less the set-up we have now.

I own the building 50/50 with an investor, and I own the coworking 50/50
with another person and we lease and sublease the space, furnish it and
organise activities etc... So it's a little more dubious. But good plan to
always refer to memberships on our contracts and invoices (I'll have to run
that by our attorney though first)



On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:44 AM Jerome Chang  wrote:

> Please be careful when you say “rent” as that invokes state regulations
> regarding your “tenant’s” occupancy.
> Most/all coworking spaces uses “memberships” like one would join a country
> club.
> Therefore, to get this 504 loan, I would recommend using another LLC to
> legally “rent” out the entire building, then have this LLC provide
> memberships to these member occupants.
>
> Now, the bank should see that you, via your new LLC, are indeed occupying
> >50% of the building. :-)
>
>
>
> *JEROME CHANG*
>
> talk to us: (323) 330-9505
> chat w/ us: http://www.BLANKSPACES.com/chat 
>
> *Santa Monica* | *Culver City* | *Downtown LA* |* Pasadena*
> *NOW OPEN: Larchmont | Irvine*
> *OPENING SOON: **Long Beach*
>
>
>
> On May 7, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Denis Clijsters 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott, I would be curious to know how your experience went!
>
> I'm currently starting up a coworking space, we already own the building
> but we're looking for money for renovations. One part I inquired for are
> solar panels, and the 504 sba green loan, but there I've been denied
> because I don't occupy the building myself for +50%, since we rent out to
> individual businesses, and gradually as we're expanding, more and more to
> coworking members.
>
> I agree with your reasoning that coworking isn't just real estate, but
> it's a business in itself that definitely isn't a passive investment!
>
> Thanks,
> Denis
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
> sc...@beahivebzzz.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan
>>  to purchase
>> the building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that coworking
>> isn’t eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in real
>> estate in which we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent
>> businesses that provide services directly to the public.
>>
>> I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call it
>> passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> scott.
>>
>>   - ---
>> *SCOTT TILLITT*
>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn
>>   //  917.449.6356
>>
>> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work +
>> community + possibilities
>>
>> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //
>>  communications + projects for a better world
>>
>>
>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
>> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the
>> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." —
>> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
>>
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Re: [Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Denis Clijsters]

Hi Scott, I would be curious to know how your experience went!

I'm currently starting up a coworking space, we already own the building
but we're looking for money for renovations. One part I inquired for are
solar panels, and the 504 sba green loan, but there I've been denied
because I don't occupy the building myself for +50%, since we rent out to
individual businesses, and gradually as we're expanding, more and more to
coworking members.

I agree with your reasoning that coworking isn't just real estate, but it's
a business in itself that definitely isn't a passive investment!

Thanks,
Denis

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
sc...@beahivebzzz.com> wrote:

> I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan
>  to purchase
> the building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that coworking
> isn’t eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in real
> estate in which we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent
> businesses that provide services directly to the public.
>
> I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call it
> passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?
>
> Thanks!
> scott.
>
>   - ---
> *SCOTT TILLITT*
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn
>   //  917.449.6356
>
> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work +
> community + possibilities
>
> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //  communications
> + projects for a better world
>
>
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." —
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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Re: [Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Jerome Chang]

Please be careful when you say “rent” as that invokes state regulations 
regarding your “tenant’s” occupancy.
Most/all coworking spaces uses “memberships” like one would join a country club.
Therefore, to get this 504 loan, I would recommend using another LLC to legally 
“rent” out the entire building, then have this LLC provide memberships to these 
member occupants.

Now, the bank should see that you, via your new LLC, are indeed occupying >50% 
of the building. :-)



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> On May 7, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Denis Clijsters  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott, I would be curious to know how your experience went!
> 
> I'm currently starting up a coworking space, we already own the building but 
> we're looking for money for renovations. One part I inquired for are solar 
> panels, and the 504 sba green loan, but there I've been denied because I 
> don't occupy the building myself for +50%, since we rent out to individual 
> businesses, and gradually as we're expanding, more and more to coworking 
> members.
> 
> I agree with your reasoning that coworking isn't just real estate, but it's a 
> business in itself that definitely isn't a passive investment!
> 
> Thanks,
> Denis
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE  > wrote:
> I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan 
>  to purchase the 
> building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that coworking isn’t 
> eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in real estate in 
> which we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent businesses that 
> provide services directly to the public.
> 
> I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call it 
> passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?
> 
> Thanks!
> scott.
> 
>   - ---
> SCOTT TILLITT
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn 
>   //  917.449.6356
> 
> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work + 
> community + possibilities
> 
> ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE   //  communications + 
> projects for a better world
> 
> 
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
> 
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[Coworking] SBA 504 loan eligibility - passive?

[Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE]

I’m exploring getting an SBA 504 loan 
 to purchase the 
building I’ve been in for 10 years. They’re arguing that coworking isn’t 
eligible, as it’s a passive business, primarily engaged in real estate in which 
we lease (license) it out to accommodate independent businesses that provide 
services directly to the public.

I think those of us who own or manage coworking spaces would not call it 
passive… but has anyone had any experience successfully navigating this?

Thanks!
scott.

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PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
//  Facebook   /  LinkedIn 
  //  917.449.6356

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community + possibilities

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Defining a "coworking" space as distinct from "office" space...a zoning ordinance question

[Jerome Chang]

Hi Deborah. I’m an architect who focuses on “tenant improvement,” which is 
typically office and restaurants. An architect should be able to submit your 
permit with existing codes/regulations. In general, don’t complicate your model 
- just permit as office + childcare. Ditto retail + cafe. Delineate your floor 
areas of usage and you should be fine.

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> On May 2, 2019, at 10:29 AM, deborah.w.en...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I own a coworking + childcare space and am opening up a new co-retail space 
> in New Jersey. I'm working with our government to create use code ordinances 
> for these newer types of business models that include multi use, shared, 
> flexible space. 
> 
> Found this old thread and thought I'd bump it up to see if anyone has come 
> further with language, and to hear an update from you, Troy?
> 
> We also have a specific question about food + co-retail, if anyone has 
> thoughts/language/precedence that might work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Deborah Engel
> Work and Play (South Orange, NJ)
> General Store Cooperative (Maplewood, NJ)
> @debengel77 on IG 
>  
> 
>> On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-5, twy...@cityofirving.org 
>> wrote:
>> Thank you for all of the help on this!  I am very pleased with what we've 
>> been able to put together.  I'll let you know if it gets incorporated into 
>> either the general zoning or a specific case ordinance. 
>> Respectfully,
>> Troy
>> --
>> Proposed Zoning Definition:
>> Coworking Space-Is a facilitated environment which contains desks or other 
>> workspaces and facilities and is used by a recognized membership who share 
>> the site in order to interact and collaborate with each other as part of a 
>> community.  Rules for membership and participation in the coworking space 
>> are explicit, transparent and are available to by the public.  Coworking 
>> spaces may host classes or networking events which are open either to the 
>> public or to  current and prospective members.   Fabrication tools are 
>> limited to those which do not generate noise or pollutants in excess of what 
>> is customary within a typical office environment.
>> Maker Space-A coworking space which allows members access to fabrication 
>> tools similar to those in machine shops or other industrial sites. 
>> 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Defining a "coworking" space as distinct from "office" space...a zoning ordinance question

[twynne]

This use was denied for the property requesting it, so the definition has 
not made its way into any city ordinance yet.  I am keeping it handy for 
inclusion in our general Zoning Ordinance for the next time we make a major 
edit to our definitions chapter or some of the commercial land use 
categories.  

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 12:29:10 PM UTC-5, debora...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I own a coworking + childcare space and am opening up a new co-retail 
> space in New Jersey. I'm working with our government to create use code 
> ordinances for these newer types of business models that include multi use, 
> shared, flexible space. 
>
> Found this old thread and thought I'd bump it up to see if anyone has come 
> further with language, and to hear an update from you, Troy?
>
> We also have a specific question about food + co-retail, if anyone has 
> thoughts/language/precedence that might work.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deborah Engel
> Work and Play (South Orange, NJ)
> General Store Cooperative (Maplewood, NJ)
> @debengel77 on IG 
>  
>
> On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-5, twy...@cityofirving.org 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for all of the help on this!  I am very pleased with what we've 
>> been able to put together.  I'll let you know if it gets incorporated into 
>> either the general zoning or a specific case ordinance.  
>> Respectfully,
>> Troy 
>> --
>> *Proposed Zoning Definition:*
>> *Coworking Space-Is a facilitated environment which contains desks or 
>> other workspaces and facilities and is used by a recognized membership who 
>> share the site in order to interact and collaborate with each other as part 
>> of a community.  Rules for membership and participation in the coworking 
>> space are explicit, transparent and are available to by the public. 
>>  Coworking spaces may host classes or networking events which are open 
>> either to the public or to  current and prospective members.   Fabrication 
>> tools are limited to those which do not generate noise or pollutants in 
>> excess of what is customary within a typical office environment.*
>>
>> *Maker Space-A coworking space which allows members access to fabrication 
>> tools similar to those in machine shops or other industrial sites.* 
>>
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Defining a "coworking" space as distinct from "office" space...a zoning ordinance question

[deborah . w . engel]

Hi!

I own a coworking + childcare space and am opening up a new co-retail space 
in New Jersey. I'm working with our government to create use code 
ordinances for these newer types of business models that include multi use, 
shared, flexible space. 

Found this old thread and thought I'd bump it up to see if anyone has come 
further with language, and to hear an update from you, Troy?

We also have a specific question about food + co-retail, if anyone has 
thoughts/language/precedence that might work.

Thanks!

Deborah Engel
Work and Play (South Orange, NJ)
General Store Cooperative (Maplewood, NJ)
@debengel77 on IG 
 

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-5, twy...@cityofirving.org 
wrote:
>
> Thank you for all of the help on this!  I am very pleased with what we've 
> been able to put together.  I'll let you know if it gets incorporated into 
> either the general zoning or a specific case ordinance.  
> Respectfully,
> Troy 
> --
> *Proposed Zoning Definition:*
> *Coworking Space-Is a facilitated environment which contains desks or 
> other workspaces and facilities and is used by a recognized membership who 
> share the site in order to interact and collaborate with each other as part 
> of a community.  Rules for membership and participation in the coworking 
> space are explicit, transparent and are available to by the public. 
>  Coworking spaces may host classes or networking events which are open 
> either to the public or to  current and prospective members.   Fabrication 
> tools are limited to those which do not generate noise or pollutants in 
> excess of what is customary within a typical office environment.*
>
> *Maker Space-A coworking space which allows members access to fabrication 
> tools similar to those in machine shops or other industrial sites.* 
>
>
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Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?

[Kyle Brown]

 Hey Cathryn,

I can't recommend getting involved with our local SBDC and Chamber of
Commerce, enough. They are great resources who will be able to help you
thrive at a local level, with new connections, and a community you can grow
with. Who knows, these entities may even join your coworking community,
like our local Chamber of Commerce did. Our relationship has been great,
and they decided to move their offices into our space!


However, I agree with John, that coworking is its own business, and these
local entities may not have all of the resources you need.

You might have a tough time finding a classroom that teaches coworking.
However, there are plenty of online resources that have been set up by
current spaces, platforms, and coworking experts in an effort to help build
out the coworking community. They focus on everything from identifying your
target market, to hiring a community manager, and closing sales. I highly
recommend checking out some past webinars, blogs, and podcasts from
established coworking leaders if you haven't already, before jumping into a
class.

Good luck on your endeavors and happy coworking!

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:33 AM Cathryn Davis 
wrote:

> Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I
> have zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me
> feel quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful,
> but I feel like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I
> have the luxury of professional development funding to use.
>
> Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before
> starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship
> fundamentals certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning
> towards. However I’m open to suggestions!
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Re: [Coworking] 10 Day Passes for the Month - How to control this?

[Alejandro Moreno]

Most coworking management system programs have a Wi Fi check-in option.

So each time they log in to the Wi Fi, the system logs it and will tell
you. You can look up the report at any time during the month to figure out
how many times member X came into your space to use Wi Fi.

The good thing about this is it bypasses the ''what if they forget to check
in'' conundrum, because they pretty much guaranteed will be using your Wi
Fi.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:14 AM Robert Campbell 
wrote:

> Susan-
>
> I built a custom RFID system, while I don't know explicitly how your
> system works, what I would suggest, and this would be work on your side
> unfortunately, would be a manual audit of logs/entries from your biometric
> system. If you can determine how the logged entries are viewed and
> retrieved (web login?, proprietary app?), I can perhaps suggest some
> additional tools that may help.
>
> Since we don't offer the same plan, though we might, I know I can
> implement something to support this with a little effort in the custom
> system I've built. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
>
>   -Robert
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Susan  wrote:
>
>> Hello, I would like to implement a month to month membership where a
>> member can work any 10 days in the month. How would one monitor or control
>> the use of the space so that he/she doesn't go over 10 days?
>>
>> I know Office RnD has a feature where they can check themselves in and
>> out. What if they forget to do this?
>>
>> Also we have a biometrics system, meaning that member will have 100%
>> access to any day of the week when in fact its only 10 days of the month?
>>
>> Any ideas or solutions to monitor this?
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?

[Alejandro Moreno]

I would recommend EntrepreneurNow.com, it's a great online program. They've
got a free 7 day trial right now.  I know they have thousands of people
signing up for their online courses.

https://www.entrepreneurnow.com/

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 8:50 AM John Sechrest  wrote:

> Between your local Community college, the SBA/SBDC client program, and the
> SCORE Program, you have a lot of generic business courses available to you
> locally. However, Coworking is its own kind of business. It takes a
> specific kind of rhythm to make it work.  It is worth your while to visit
> other coworking spaces, learn the choices they made and specifically
> understand the details.
>
> I looked at the bplans.org site, but could not find an example Business
> plan there for coworking.
>
> I suspect you can get a lot of help from folks on this list with some
> examples. But you will want to sit down and understand the assumptions they
> are making about their business models.
>
> Since there is a low margin on most coworking spaces, you need to be
> careful about how you do this.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 8:20 AM Wendy  wrote:
>
>> Cathryn,
>>
>>
>>
>> I live in Texas and I also took advantage of the SBDC of Texas.  It is a
>> great resource.  Also our Chamber of Commerce offers leadership training
>> programs.  They are not industry specific but are fairly comprehensive and
>> attendees are other local business owners.  It is a great networking
>> opportunity.  The more you can share what you are doing and educate people
>> about Co-Working the bigger your reach.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Wendy Acosta
>>
>> The Desk and Easel
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *penny mechley-porter 
>> *Sent: *Monday, April 15, 2019 7:41 AM
>> *To: *coworking@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Cathryn,
>>
>> I live in Erie, PA and we have two classes available--both of which are
>> available in many other cities. I took both classes and they've helped me
>> immensely. One is thru the local SBDC office (Small Business Development
>> Center) and the other is via a curriculum called Co.Starters. If you can
>> find either of those in your city they'd be a good place to start.
>>
>> Penny Mechley-Porter
>>
>> Thrive Therapy Space
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Cathryn Davis 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I
>> have zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me
>> feel quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful,
>> but I feel like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I
>> have the luxury of professional development funding to use.
>>
>> Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before
>> starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship
>> fundamentals certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning
>> towards. However I’m open to suggestions!
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [Coworking] 10 Day Passes for the Month - How to control this?

[Robert Campbell]

Susan-

I built a custom RFID system, while I don't know explicitly how your system
works, what I would suggest, and this would be work on your side
unfortunately, would be a manual audit of logs/entries from your biometric
system. If you can determine how the logged entries are viewed and
retrieved (web login?, proprietary app?), I can perhaps suggest some
additional tools that may help.

Since we don't offer the same plan, though we might, I know I can implement
something to support this with a little effort in the custom system I've
built. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.

  -Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Susan  wrote:

> Hello, I would like to implement a month to month membership where a
> member can work any 10 days in the month. How would one monitor or control
> the use of the space so that he/she doesn't go over 10 days?
>
> I know Office RnD has a feature where they can check themselves in and
> out. What if they forget to do this?
>
> Also we have a biometrics system, meaning that member will have 100%
> access to any day of the week when in fact its only 10 days of the month?
>
> Any ideas or solutions to monitor this?
>
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Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?

[John Sechrest]

Between your local Community college, the SBA/SBDC client program, and the
SCORE Program, you have a lot of generic business courses available to you
locally. However, Coworking is its own kind of business. It takes a
specific kind of rhythm to make it work.  It is worth your while to visit
other coworking spaces, learn the choices they made and specifically
understand the details.

I looked at the bplans.org site, but could not find an example Business
plan there for coworking.

I suspect you can get a lot of help from folks on this list with some
examples. But you will want to sit down and understand the assumptions they
are making about their business models.

Since there is a low margin on most coworking spaces, you need to be
careful about how you do this.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 8:20 AM Wendy  wrote:

> Cathryn,
>
>
>
> I live in Texas and I also took advantage of the SBDC of Texas.  It is a
> great resource.  Also our Chamber of Commerce offers leadership training
> programs.  They are not industry specific but are fairly comprehensive and
> attendees are other local business owners.  It is a great networking
> opportunity.  The more you can share what you are doing and educate people
> about Co-Working the bigger your reach.
>
>
>
> Best of Luck,
>
> Wendy Acosta
>
> The Desk and Easel
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *penny mechley-porter 
> *Sent: *Monday, April 15, 2019 7:41 AM
> *To: *coworking@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?
>
>
>
> Hi Cathryn,
>
> I live in Erie, PA and we have two classes available--both of which are
> available in many other cities. I took both classes and they've helped me
> immensely. One is thru the local SBDC office (Small Business Development
> Center) and the other is via a curriculum called Co.Starters. If you can
> find either of those in your city they'd be a good place to start.
>
> Penny Mechley-Porter
>
> Thrive Therapy Space
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Cathryn Davis 
> wrote:
>
> Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I
> have zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me
> feel quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful,
> but I feel like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I
> have the luxury of professional development funding to use.
>
> Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before
> starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship
> fundamentals certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning
> towards. However I’m open to suggestions!
>
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RE: [Coworking] Classes to take?

[Wendy]

Cathryn,

I live in Texas and I also took advantage of the SBDC of Texas.  It is a great 
resource.  Also our Chamber of Commerce offers leadership training programs.  
They are not industry specific but are fairly comprehensive and attendees are 
other local business owners.  It is a great networking opportunity.  The more 
you can share what you are doing and educate people about Co-Working the bigger 
your reach.

Best of Luck,
Wendy Acosta
The Desk and Easel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: penny mechley-porter
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:41 AM
To: coworking@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?

Hi Cathryn,
I live in Erie, PA and we have two classes available--both of which are 
available in many other cities. I took both classes and they've helped me 
immensely. One is thru the local SBDC office (Small Business Development 
Center) and the other is via a curriculum called Co.Starters. If you can find 
either of those in your city they'd be a good place to start.
Penny Mechley-Porter
Thrive Therapy Space

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Cathryn Davis  wrote:
Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I have 
zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me feel 
quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful, but I feel 
like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I have the luxury 
of professional development funding to use. 

Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before 
starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship fundamentals 
certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning towards. However I’m 
open to suggestions! 

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Re: [Coworking] Classes to take?

[penny mechley-porter]

Hi Cathryn,
I live in Erie, PA and we have two classes available--both of which are
available in many other cities. I took both classes and they've helped me
immensely. One is thru the local SBDC office (Small Business Development
Center) and the other is via a curriculum called Co.Starters. If you can
find either of those in your city they'd be a good place to start.
Penny Mechley-Porter
Thrive Therapy Space

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:33 AM Cathryn Davis 
wrote:

> Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I
> have zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me
> feel quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful,
> but I feel like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I
> have the luxury of professional development funding to use.
>
> Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before
> starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship
> fundamentals certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning
> towards. However I’m open to suggestions!
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[Coworking] Classes to take?

[Cathryn Davis]

Hello! I’m considering starting a co-working space in my town however I have 
zero knowledge of business or entrepreneurship which frankly makes me feel 
quite unprepared! The co-working resources have been super helpful, but I feel 
like I need to know more. I currently work in higher ed, so I have the luxury 
of professional development funding to use. 

Are there any classes you’d recommend taking or wish you’d taken before 
starting your space? There seem to be a number of entrepreneurship fundamentals 
certificates out there to choose from, which I’m leaning towards. However I’m 
open to suggestions! 

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[Coworking] 10 Day Passes for the Month - How to control this?

[Susan]

Hello, I would like to implement a month to month membership where a member 
can work any 10 days in the month. How would one monitor or control the use 
of the space so that he/she doesn't go over 10 days?

I know Office RnD has a feature where they can check themselves in and out. 
What if they forget to do this?

Also we have a biometrics system, meaning that member will have 100% access 
to any day of the week when in fact its only 10 days of the month?

Any ideas or solutions to monitor this?

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Re: [Coworking] Re: anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Jerome Chang]

Yes they're national

Jerome

> On Apr 11, 2019, at 3:56 AM, Adolfo Taylhardat  wrote:
> 
> Is it valid for any state?
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-4, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
>> wrote:
>> I just signed up for GCUC membership specifically so I could access TriNet, 
>> a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides co-branded, 
>> discounted full-service HR services to clients, which in all of our case, 
>> would be coworking space staff and our members.
>> 
>> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
>> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>> 
>> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>> 
>> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
>> are the rates?
>> 
>> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
>> otherwise?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> scott.
>> 
>>   - ---
>> SCOTT TILLITT
>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>> //  Facebook  /  LinkedIn  //  917.449.6356
>> 
>> BEAHIVE  //  pioneering spaces for work + community + possibilities
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
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>> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
>> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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Re: Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE]

As far as I know, but you’d have to ask TriNet .

> On Apr 11, 2019, at 6:56 AM, Adolfo Taylhardat  > wrote:
> 
> Is it valid for any state?
> 
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-4, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
> wrote:
> I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically so I 
> could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides 
> co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which in all of 
> our case, would be coworking space staff and our members.
> 
> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
> 
> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
> 
> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
> are the rates?
> 
> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
> otherwise?
> 
> Thanks!
> scott.


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Re: [Coworking] Re: anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Marion roger]

I was General Manager for N America for a french startup and we had our
offices at The Yard (Flatiron location) NYC.  I had 5 employees in USA and
no HR no legal no payroll and we used TriNet

As a manager loved being able to have trinet so I could attract good hires
(in USA a company with 4 staff and me would normally not be able to offer
health insurance etc

As a manager I loved having someone to phone to ask about legal issues if
we had an employee who we needed to put on a performance improvement plan
or to terminate or deal with 

As a manager I loved having someone to phone to ask about a contract and
get some legal advice

As an employee I loved the dashboard to log in an self service for buying
long term disability or Accidental death and dismemberment or just plain
old life insurance...

As an employee I loved access to the visa card they would credit monthly so
I could purchase my PATH train and MTA (NYC Subway) tickets at a savings

As an employee I loved the ability to purchase the FSA even though I was on
my HUSBAND's AETNA from his insurer...I could purchase an FSA for me to
have added $$ to pay for eyeglasses or whatever...

As a coworking space employee (March 2018-Jan 2019 SparkLabs NYC) I loved
knowing that offering this to our tenants helped ensure they stayed
longer...when you offer TriNet to your community members they may hesitate
to swap locations if the other does not offerso it is a great way to
add value as part of the rental fee...the small companies that typically
rent space in a coworking could never offer the type of benefits TriNet
offers at the rate TriNet charges...they would go broke if they had to
negotiate all these benefits on their own and would not opt to offer to
their staff...

Marion ROGER

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:00 AM Adolfo Taylhardat 
wrote:

> Is it valid for any state?
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-4, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE
> wrote:
>>
>> I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically
>> so I could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that
>> provides co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which
>> in all of our case, would be coworking space staff and our members.
>>
>> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee
>> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>>
>> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services
>> pays.
>>
>> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them?
>> How are the rates?
>>
>> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful
>> otherwise?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> scott.
>>
>>   - ---
>> *SCOTT TILLITT*
>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn
>>   //  917.449.6356
>>
>> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work +
>> community + possibilities
>>
>> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //
>>  communications + projects for a better world
>>
>>
>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
>> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the
>> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." —
>> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
>>
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[Coworking] Re: anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Adolfo Taylhardat]

Is it valid for any state?

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-4, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
wrote:
>
> I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically so 
> I could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that 
> provides co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which 
> in all of our case, would be coworking space staff and our members.
>
> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>
> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>
> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
> are the rates?
>
> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
> otherwise?
>
> Thanks!
> scott.
>
>   - ---
> *SCOTT TILLITT*
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn 
>   //  917.449.6356
>
> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work + 
> community + possibilities
>
> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //  communications 
> + projects for a better world
>
>
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
>
>

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Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Jerome Chang]

Yes we do.
1 signed up.
However, we have not put in sufficient effort to market it.


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> On Apr 10, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you offer it to members, too? And do they take advantage?
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:35:46 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote:
>> Yes. We just changed over from Insperity for our 18 employees. So much 
>> better and cheaper
>> 
>> Jerome
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just signed up for GCUC membership specifically so I could access TriNet, 
>>> a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides co-branded, 
>>> discounted full-service HR services to clients, which in all of our case, 
>>> would be coworking space staff and our members.
>>> 
>>> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
>>> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>>> 
>>> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
>>> are the rates?
>>> 
>>> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
>>> otherwise?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> scott.
>>> 
>>>   - ---
>>> SCOTT TILLITT
>>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>>> //  Facebook  /  LinkedIn  //  917.449.6356
>>> 
>>> BEAHIVE  //  pioneering spaces for work + community + possibilities
>>> 
>>> ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE  //  communications + projects for a better world
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
>>> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
>>> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
>>> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
>>> 
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Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE]

Do you offer it to members, too? And do they take advantage?

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:35:46 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote:
>
> Yes. We just changed over from Insperity for our 18 employees. So much 
> better and cheaper
>
> Jerome
>
> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
> sc...@beahivebzzz.com > wrote:
>
> I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically so 
> I could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that 
> provides co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which 
> in all of our case, would be coworking space staff and our members.
>
> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>
> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>
> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
> are the rates?
>
> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
> otherwise?
>
> Thanks!
> scott.
>
>   - ---
> *SCOTT TILLITT*
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn 
>   //  917.449.6356
>
> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work + 
> community + possibilities
>
> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //  communications 
> + projects for a better world
>
>
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Jerome Chang]

Totally different. 
Gusto is a payroll platform with which others may provide add-ons for 
insurance, etc

TriNet is like joining a large corp to get a bundle of intergrated items like 
insurance. To your local employment agency, you don't even exist as a separate 
tax entity as you fold into TriNet

Jerome

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:59 PM, David Weekly  wrote:
> 
> How does it compare with Gusto?
> 
> Cheers,
>  David E. Weekly (@dweekly)
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:35 PM Jerome Chang  wrote:
>> Yes. We just changed over from Insperity for our 18 employees. So much 
>> better and cheaper
>> 
>> Jerome
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just signed up for GCUC membership specifically so I could access TriNet, 
>>> a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides co-branded, 
>>> discounted full-service HR services to clients, which in all of our case, 
>>> would be coworking space staff and our members.
>>> 
>>> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
>>> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>>> 
>>> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
>>> are the rates?
>>> 
>>> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
>>> otherwise?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> scott.
>>> 
>>>   - ---
>>> SCOTT TILLITT
>>> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
>>> //  Facebook  /  LinkedIn  //  917.449.6356
>>> 
>>> BEAHIVE  //  pioneering spaces for work + community + possibilities
>>> 
>>> ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE  //  communications + projects for a better world
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
>>> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
>>> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
>>> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[David Weekly]

How does it compare with Gusto?

Cheers,
 David E. Weekly (@dweekly)


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:35 PM Jerome Chang 
wrote:

> Yes. We just changed over from Insperity for our 18 employees. So much
> better and cheaper
>
> Jerome
>
> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE <
> sc...@beahivebzzz.com> wrote:
>
> I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically so
> I could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that
> provides co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which
> in all of our case, would be coworking space staff and our members.
>
> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee
> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
>
> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
>
> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How
> are the rates?
>
> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful
> otherwise?
>
> Thanks!
> scott.
>
>   - ---
> *SCOTT TILLITT*
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook   /  LinkedIn
>   //  917.449.6356
>
> BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work +
> community + possibilities
>
> *ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE*   //  communications
> + projects for a better world
>
>
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." —
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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Re: [Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Jerome Chang]

Yes. We just changed over from Insperity for our 18 employees. So much better 
and cheaper

Jerome

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE  
> wrote:
> 
> I just signed up for GCUC membership specifically so I could access TriNet, a 
> Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides co-branded, discounted 
> full-service HR services to clients, which in all of our case, would be 
> coworking space staff and our members.
> 
> Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
> benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.
> 
> It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.
> 
> Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How 
> are the rates?
> 
> For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
> otherwise?
> 
> Thanks!
> scott.
> 
>   - ---
> SCOTT TILLITT
> PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
> //  Facebook  /  LinkedIn  //  917.449.6356
> 
> BEAHIVE  //  pioneering spaces for work + community + possibilities
> 
> ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE  //  communications + projects for a better world
> 
> 
>   - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
> "...an idea or product that deserves the label 'creative' arises from the 
> synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
> Mihaly Csikszentmihaly
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[Coworking] anyone used TriNet for healthcare and HR services for members?

[Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE]

I just signed up for GCUC membership  specifically so I 
could access TriNet, a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) that provides 
co-branded, discounted full-service HR services to clients, which in all of our 
case, would be coworking space staff and our members.

Services include healthcare, workers’ comp, payroll services, employee 
benefits, employment practices risk management, and a dedicated HR team.

It’s free for coworking spaces to offer; whomever uses their services pays.

Has anyone used TriNet? Is it beneficial? Are your members using them? How are 
the rates?

For that matter, has anyone signed up for GCUC membership? Is it useful 
otherwise?

Thanks!
scott.

  - ---
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PR yogi + social entrepreneur + community catalyst + meditator
//  Facebook   /  LinkedIn 
  //  917.449.6356

BEAHIVE   //  pioneering spaces for work + 
community + possibilities

ANTIDOTE COLLECTIVE   //  communications + 
projects for a better world


  - ---  t h i n k / f e e l  --- -
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synergy of many sources and not only from the mind of a single person." — 
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[Coworking] Thoughts on this: WeWork's acquisition of Managed by Q

[junel]

Stumbled upon this article last night on TechCrunch 
 about 
WeWork's most recent acquisition: Managed by Q. Managed by Q is an office 
management platform that helps companies handle non-work related tasks in 
the office (cleaning, IT support, supplies etc.) 

Just wanted to know what the community's thoughts are on this, and if 
WeWork is really placing itself in a good position with all its new 
acquisitions!


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Re: [Coworking] Re: Quickbooks connection to Nexudus

[Tabari Brannon]

Just give me a call if you are interested 661-238-3311

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:05 AM Adolfo Taylhardat 
wrote:

> Very interested also in the topic. Wanting to start the integration
> Nexus/QuickBooks
> Thanks.
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Re: [Coworking] Remote Worker List

[Alex Hillman]

Great idea - remote work is probably one of the fastest growing
contributors to our membership overall, as well as the diversity of our
membership (more people working in more kinds of jobs that happen to be
remote!)

https://weworkremotely.com is another job board (and totally unrelated to
the McCoworking chain), but they also have a nice set of resources
including a remote companies list (based on who is posting jobs), and even
things like a job description template for remote positions.

A few other popular resources I've found, again, mostly job boards, include:
- https://remoteok.io
- https://www.workingnomads.co/jobs
- https://jobspresso.co/

There are a few companies like Buffer, Zapier, and Invision who are all
"remote first" companies publish experience and expertise on helping build
remote teams. This is an area that I feel strongly that coworking operators
could help with, since many companies do *not* have the internal resources
to build healthy remote teams and perhaps part of the playbook can become
supporting remote workers *and their employers* in creating sustainable
remote positions.

Lots to explore here, I love this conversation!


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> Some more on remote workforcebe sure to scroll down, the page is a
> little confusing.
>
> https://growremote.ie/
>
> Brad
> Brad Attig
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:23 AM Crystal Maynard <
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>
>> Brad -- I love this idea!!! I have not heard of such a data base, BUT
>> what I was thinking a "hack" might be, to go to indeed or glassdoor enter
>> the radius of 200 miles or whatever, and use the term remote in the keyword
>> search!! That at least might give you a place to start!!
>>
>> Thank you for sharing the idea though!!
>>
>> Kindly, Crystal
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 PM Brad Attig 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent
>>> desks, 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those
>>> desks are paid for by their company.
>>>
>>> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage
>>> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some
>>> of the most profitable.
>>>
>>> In community,
>>>
>>> Brad
>>> Brad Attig
>>> CEO at Foundry Collective
>>> Phone  541.812.1911   <541.812.1911>
>>> Mobile  541.286.5495
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Remote Worker List

[Marion roger]

Here is but ONE of the sources I use...

https://github.com/yanirs/established-remote



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:23 AM Robert Kropp  wrote:

> Hi Brad,
>
> That's awesome. I am a huge proponent of remote and flexible work. These
> opportunities are mainly listed as part of job sites like indeed, etc. I
> have seen https://remote.co/
>  and similar remote work
> specific sites but again they are just job boards. Also, there are people
> putting together random "What are the best companies to work remotely for?"
> but at this point I don't see any public databases per say that could be
> used to reach out to. I do believe they exist but more of part of some
> company's lead generation plan. I have been discussing this as well with a
> few different people but will surely reach out if I come across anything
> more complete.
>
> Robert Kropp
> https://cowork22.com
> Cowork22
>
> On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 3:47:40 PM UTC-4, Brad Attig wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent
>> desks, 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those
>> desks are paid for by their company.
>>
>> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage
>> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some
>> of the most profitable.
>>
>> In community,
>>
>> Brad
>> Brad Attig
>> CEO at Foundry Collective
>> Phone  541.812.1911
>> Mobile  541.286.5495
>> Email  ...@foundrycollective.org
>> Website  www.foundrycollective.org
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [Coworking] Remote Worker List

[Brad Attig]

Some more on remote workforcebe sure to scroll down, the page is a
little confusing.

https://growremote.ie/

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:23 AM Crystal Maynard 
wrote:

> Brad -- I love this idea!!! I have not heard of such a data base, BUT what
> I was thinking a "hack" might be, to go to indeed or glassdoor enter the
> radius of 200 miles or whatever, and use the term remote in the keyword
> search!! That at least might give you a place to start!!
>
> Thank you for sharing the idea though!!
>
> Kindly, Crystal
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 PM Brad Attig 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent
>> desks, 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those
>> desks are paid for by their company.
>>
>> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage
>> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some
>> of the most profitable.
>>
>> In community,
>>
>> Brad
>> Brad Attig
>> CEO at Foundry Collective
>> Phone  541.812.1911   <541.812.1911>
>> Mobile  541.286.5495
>> Email  b...@foundrycollective.org
>> Website  www.foundrycollective.org
>> 
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Remote Worker List

[Crystal Maynard]

Brad -- I love this idea!!! I have not heard of such a data base, BUT what
I was thinking a "hack" might be, to go to indeed or glassdoor enter the
radius of 200 miles or whatever, and use the term remote in the keyword
search!! That at least might give you a place to start!!

Thank you for sharing the idea though!!

Kindly, Crystal

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 PM Brad Attig  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent desks,
> 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those desks
> are paid for by their company.
>
> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage
> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some
> of the most profitable.
>
> In community,
>
> Brad
> Brad Attig
> CEO at Foundry Collective
> Phone  541.812.1911   <541.812.1911>
> Mobile  541.286.5495
> Email  b...@foundrycollective.org
> Website  www.foundrycollective.org
> 
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[Coworking] Re: Remote Worker List

[Robert Kropp]

Hi Brad,

That's awesome. I am a huge proponent of remote and flexible work. These 
opportunities are mainly listed as part of job sites like indeed, etc. I 
have seen https://remote.co/ 
 and similar remote work 
specific sites but again they are just job boards. Also, there are people 
putting together random "What are the best companies to work remotely for?" 
but at this point I don't see any public databases per say that could be 
used to reach out to. I do believe they exist but more of part of some 
company's lead generation plan. I have been discussing this as well with a 
few different people but will surely reach out if I come across anything 
more complete.

Robert Kropp
https://cowork22.com
Cowork22

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 3:47:40 PM UTC-4, Brad Attig wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent desks, 
> 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those desks 
> are paid for by their company.
>
> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage 
> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some 
> of the most profitable.
>
> In community,
>
> Brad
> Brad Attig 
> CEO at Foundry Collective 
> Phone  541.812.1911 
> Mobile  541.286.5495   
> Email  ...@foundrycollective.org   
> Website  www.foundrycollective.org 
> 
>   
>
>
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[Coworking] Re: Remote Worker List

[Eveline Vinet]

Hi Brad!
How interesting is that! 
Eveline

Le jeudi 28 mars 2019 15:47:40 UTC-4, Brad Attig a écrit :
>
> Hi all,
>
> Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent desks, 
> 6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those desks 
> are paid for by their company.
>
> Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage 
> remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some 
> of the most profitable.
>
> In community,
>
> Brad
> Brad Attig 
> CEO at Foundry Collective 
> Phone  541.812.1911 
> Mobile  541.286.5495   
> Email  ...@foundrycollective.org   
> Website  www.foundrycollective.org 
> 
>   
>
>
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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[Coworking] Remote Worker List

[Brad Attig]

Hi all,

Lot's of news about remote workforce these days. Of our 9 permanent desks,
6 are members who work for companies out of area and most of those desks
are paid for by their company.

Wondering if anyone has started a database of companies who encourage
remote work and all the details? It's a huge part of our revenue and some
of the most profitable.

In community,

Brad
Brad Attig
CEO at Foundry Collective
Phone  541.812.1911   <541.812.1911>
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[Coworking] Official News! Updated "Google Group" (now at forum.coworking.org) is open for registration.  Plus details about what comes next.

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Hey coworking friends!

Earlier this month I announced that the Coworking Google Group is being 
migrated to a new platform 
 to help us 
make the archives more accessible, improve discussion quality, and ensure 
this community and resource can continue growing for many years to come.

Today, I'm writing to tell you that things are well underway (more than 25% 
of the historical archive has been categorized thanks to a team of 
volunteers) and as of today, our *new platform is OPEN for registration!*

*You can check it out here and get signed up:* https://forum.coworking.org




The rest of this email includes some useful details about the most 
important things for you to know right now, and what's coming next:



*1 - you can now go to https://forum.coworking.org and sign up. No invite 
required!*




Registration is open, just like the current google group. Anyone can browse 
and search the site without a login, but to post/comment/other interactive 
features, an account *is* required. 

You can sign up with an email address and password, but you can also sign 
up in just a couple of clicks using a valid Google account or Twitter 
account. 

And just like Google Groups, once you have an account, you'll be able to 
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from your inbox. Basically, everything Google Groups lets you do, we can do 
better!

UNLIKE Google Groups, you'll gain the ability to tweak your notification 
settings for specific categories & subcategories (aka just get emails about 
the topics you care about) and even mute categories you don't care about as 
much. I'll share much more about the more "advanced features soon, but 
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*Coming soon: merge your account history into your new account. *

Any posts you make with your new account will obviously be associated with 
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google group. Cool way to preserve history!

I've already done this for our early contributors, but it's a fairly manual 
process so for everyone else it will be done by-request. Stay tuned for 
more on that. 

If you do NOT sign up for an account on the new platform during the next 
few weeks, you'll be part of an automatic migration in the future (which 
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way, and it's increasingly difficult to be sure that I'll be able to move 
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I'm here to bring as much clarity to this shift as possible, and avoid 
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Re: [Coworking] Re: building the community

[Eric Haas]

Thanks so much for sharing this alejandro! reminds and helps me to set up 
those basic house rules as well!
Muchas gracias!
Eric

Op dinsdag 26 maart 2019 16:05:21 UTC+1 schreef Alejandro Moreno:
>
> Since we hardly did any community-building before we opened our space, if 
> I could do it over again, I would address certain topics like kitchen 
> use/rules, some basic bathroom usage/rules/etiquette, ideas for improving 
> recycling/sustainability, member guest policy, open space noise policy 
> (like whether phone calls will be allowed in the main space or whether 
> people should use phone booths and meeting rooms for calls, as people talk 
> very loudly on cell phones and video chat calls), getting the members to 
> help you keep the bills down (turn off lights in rooms when not in use, 
> etc), and how many of your members would potentially want private offices 
> (build as many as you can). 
>
> As far as specific recommendations I would make for some of the 
> aforementioned topics (some might be relevant to you, some might not be):
> — NO seafood in the microwave, EVER
> — Any food left in the fridge at 6pm each Friday is up for grabs for 
> anyone because it will get tossed that night.
> — Rinse the sink after you've emptied food, coffee grounds etc into the 
> sink / disposal (basic common sense stuff that people are too unconscious 
> to think about sometimes)
> — Have a sign you can hang on the dishwasher telling people that it's 
> running so DO NOT OPEN while running
> — Tell members to go ahead and load toilet paper if it runs out and not 
> have to wait and go tell you that TP is out
> — Ask them, if they'd be open to pitch in and clean a toilet once in a 
> while if it needs cleaning (cuz you're going to end up cleaning them daily 
> unless you hire a service)
> — We set up 3 separate recycling stations in our space but we need to do a 
> better job about telling people to do small things like remove the plastic 
> lid and paper sleeve from their coffee cups and recycle those (better yet, 
> I think we're going to establish a new rule for our regular members – no 
> more plastic/paper cups from the local cafe, use your own washable coffee 
> mug instead)
> — We set a 2 hour member guest policy, after that they need to buy a day 
> pass
> — We have a ''quiet culture'' in the open space, we built 3 phone booths 
> and we let our members use the meeting rooms too for short calls if the 
> phone booths are full.
> — We give each of our members 20 free hours of meeting room use per month, 
> so they can book meeting rooms either for a long phone call that they have 
> in their schedules or for meetings or whatever they need. You may or may 
> not be able to afford this so, do what works best for you.
> — I'm constantly turning the lights off in the phone booths, meeting rooms 
> etc, we need to put signs up telling people to turn them off (even though 
> the rooms have automatic sensors, the lights stay on for a while after the 
> room or phone booth is vacated) so you might want to consider the same 
> thing. Some people when entering the office in the morning turn on the 
> entire panel of lights automatically without thinking whether that is 
> really necessary. It never is, so several times a week I'm turning off 
> about 50% of the lights someone mindlessly turned on when they let 
> themselves in early in the morning. 
> — We built 2 private offices originally, we're looking at converting our 
> largest (and most underutilized) meeting room into 5 small private offices 
> and another nook we have into 2 more meeting rooms, plus converting one 
> meeting room we have now over to a private office, giving us 8 private 
> offices and 4 meeting rooms total
>
> That's all I have off the top of my head.
>
> Alejandro Moreno S. 
> Cofounder/VP VenturePad 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:11 AM > wrote:
>
>> In addition to what the other experts here suggest, research what Mark 
>> Eaton of the Cochrane Corner did. I believe it was based on Angel's advice 
>> and it was clearly successful. I recently spoke with Mark and he is looking 
>> for a second location. Not bad for a semi-rural operator. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 2:46:33 AM UTC-7, superio...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Guys!
>>>
>>> Tomorrow is my first meet and greets for my coworking community.  I am 
>>> building the community before acquiring the actual space.  What are some 
>>> topics or processes I should cover tomorrow during the meet and greet?  Any 
>>> advice for topics to be discussed? Ice breaker techniques? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Trey 
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Attn: Small CW spaces-- how fast is your internet?

[Trevor Townsend]

I have 1,000 sqft.  That's small.
10Below has less than that.  That's even smaller.
Our options at this size are very limited.

Really, I would love to have 4,000 sqft ft...

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 11:05, Alejandro Moreno 
wrote:

> What is a ''small'' coworking space? Here in the SF Bay Area, big is 30K
> sq ft, so at 4K sq ft, we feel ''small'' relatively speaking.
>
> Alejandro Moreno S. 
> Cofounder/VP VenturePad 
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:03 AM Trevor Townsend <1...@trevortownsend.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've got 150down/50up and have stress tested that against 5+ nodes
>> streaming HD content - it went well, no buffering.
>> I'm on fibre here, so that says a lot.
>>
>> Is your ISP reliable and is the connection low latency and low jitter?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 17 March 2019 11:04:10 UTC-4, AK wrote:
>>>
>>> we currently are running ATT 24 DL / 3 UL  --  We only have space for 15
>>> people (UL video too at times), also an internet based phone service.   I
>>> can go crazy and get 150 DL or 75...but is it really necessary?
>>>
>>> And now ATT offers fiber.  Can someone advise?  Thank you.
>>>
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RE: [Coworking] Co-Working Membership Software?!?!? HAAAAALP!!

[Wendy]

KY,

This IS interesting.  I’d love this information as well.  Will you email me 
directly?

Thanks 
Wendy Acosta

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From: Crystal Maynard
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To: coworking@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Co-Working Membership Software?!?!? HALP!!

This is an interesting idea!! Can you email me directly with more information?! 
I'd like to talk more. 

Thank you! 
Crystal

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 6:02 PM Ky Ekinci (Office Divvy ™) 
 wrote:


Hello Crystal,

After 11 years of trying third-party cloud solutions, at Office Divvy we've 
developed our own cloud-solution last year, and it's been one of the best 
investments we made.

As a small-space, small-city coworking provider we offer it all: hotdesking, 
private office and conference room sharing, dedicated stations, and dedicated 
offices for members (subscriptions) PLUS single-use (ad hoc use of space) for 
non members. Our solution is customized to handle all.

As we're considering to take this to market as a SAAS solution, and I'd be 
willing to "pilot" it with you complimentary for 12 months with full support 
for setup. No fees for first year at all. I believe it will solve all your 
problems from startup-phase into early operations from day-1. It would also 
hold up into into maturity of your biz. 

Let me know if interested, just call me Tuesday, 386-445-4153 and I'll get you 
a real user seat (member view), plus give you a real life, real time demo of 
Manager and Admin views.

Best,

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Re: [Coworking] Computer Monitors? --Should we offer them?

[Alicia Vaz]

Hey there!, AK!

We've never rented monitors, we did loan out free tabletop laptop stands to
members as a value add and held on to their driver's license until they
returned the equipment—very popular request. We never had any problems and
it was made clear that if the stand wasn't returned, they'd be liable for
the cost to replace it. It is common to have dual monitors but you'd have
to consider the space need to store equipment that may be needed
occasionally.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I'm curious to know if that's being done
so I'll be monitoring this thread.

+Alicia

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 11:17 AM AK  wrote:

> I have a potential member asking about a second monitor so he can plug in
> his laptop and see a larger screen.  What is the consensus here?  is it
> common to have monitors at each desk or does anyone offer them on a rental
> basis?  And do you use desktop mounts or free standing?
>
> Ideas welcome
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Do you require Hot Desk users to schedule or walk-in?

[Alejandro Moreno]

We keep it open and flexible.

People's plans change all the time, a car breaks down, the kids get sick,
etc etc.

Too much stuff happens to require people to adhere to a rigid system, at
least that's the way we see it at our space.



On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 6:31 AM Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> Even when we were tiny (<1800 sq ft) we never required pre-scheduled
> usage, and never have. We DO ask people to pre-schedule tours (though we
> won't turn away a walk-in, we might ask them to hang out in our lounge
> until we're done with something), but to come in and work I've seen it be
> an unnecessary barrier in far too many cases.
>
> Often people plan to come in, and their plans change. Sometimes, people
> realize that they need a change of scenery.
>
> Most people do the scheduling systems because they fear overbooking, but
> when I ask, they've never actually experienced overbooking or even close to
> it! And especially when you have a mix of alternative zones (including
> lounge/kitchen type gathering spaces) there's always a backup for someone
> to have a spot they could sit and work.
>
> So instead of having people pre-register, the metric we monitor is the
> daily average # of empty spots. And when that number begins to REGULARLY
> get close to zero (for even the smallest spaces, I suggest when that number
> gets anywhere near 2-3 empty spots), we start a waiting list for our
> highest-usage flex membership options (in our case, that's a 3 day a week
> plan). This means we stop adding new flex desk-users who are most likely to
> come in often and take us to "zero spots left."
>
> IMO, this metric is muuch more useful than "occupancy" which
> celebrates 100%. I never want our space to be 100% occupied, I want it to
> be comfortably active and with available spots for someone to walk in
> unexpectedly and have a great day. The easiest way to do that is to make
> sure there is always at least 1 open seat, and design that into your space
> & business model.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:03 AM  wrote:
>
>> That is a good idea, but sometimes people who have impromtu needs might
>> be turned off
>>
>> On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 3:49:07 PM UTC+1, AK wrote:
>>>
>>> Wondering. Since we have limited space that we want to get maximum use
>>> out of, should we require our "hot desk" users to pre-schedule or at least
>>> call?  I hate to turn people away, but feel in order to accommodate, people
>>> should plan.
>>>
>>> We are a small space owner and may not even open if people are not using
>>> it for the day.
>>>
>>> Feedback welcome.
>>>
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[Coworking] Re: Quickbooks connection to Nexudus

[Adolfo Taylhardat]

Very interested also in the topic. Wanting to start the integration 
Nexus/QuickBooks 
Thanks.
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Getting Rooms Booked

[Toni Craig-Cox]

San Diego, Phoenix, D.C. and Sweden

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:07 AM Nicole Vasquez 
wrote:

> Hi Toni!
>
> Where is your workspace located? Deskpass  is
> launching meeting room rentals this week and we do all the work in
> advertising/marketing your rooms for you.
>
> Would love to learn more about your space and help sell your rooms!
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 10:10:25 AM UTC-4, Toni Craig-Cox wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone use anything other than Liquid Space to get their meeting
>> rooms books so that they are not just sitting vacant?
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Attn: Small CW spaces-- how fast is your internet?

[Alejandro Moreno]

What is a ''small'' coworking space? Here in the SF Bay Area, big is 30K sq
ft, so at 4K sq ft, we feel ''small'' relatively speaking.

Alejandro Moreno S. 
Cofounder/VP VenturePad 


On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:03 AM Trevor Townsend <1...@trevortownsend.com>
wrote:

> I've got 150down/50up and have stress tested that against 5+ nodes
> streaming HD content - it went well, no buffering.
> I'm on fibre here, so that says a lot.
>
> Is your ISP reliable and is the connection low latency and low jitter?
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 17 March 2019 11:04:10 UTC-4, AK wrote:
>>
>> we currently are running ATT 24 DL / 3 UL  --  We only have space for 15
>> people (UL video too at times), also an internet based phone service.   I
>> can go crazy and get 150 DL or 75...but is it really necessary?
>>
>> And now ATT offers fiber.  Can someone advise?  Thank you.
>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: building the community

[Alejandro Moreno]

Since we hardly did any community-building before we opened our space, if I
could do it over again, I would address certain topics like kitchen
use/rules, some basic bathroom usage/rules/etiquette, ideas for improving
recycling/sustainability, member guest policy, open space noise policy
(like whether phone calls will be allowed in the main space or whether
people should use phone booths and meeting rooms for calls, as people talk
very loudly on cell phones and video chat calls), getting the members to
help you keep the bills down (turn off lights in rooms when not in use,
etc), and how many of your members would potentially want private offices
(build as many as you can).

As far as specific recommendations I would make for some of the
aforementioned topics (some might be relevant to you, some might not be):
— NO seafood in the microwave, EVER
— Any food left in the fridge at 6pm each Friday is up for grabs for anyone
because it will get tossed that night.
— Rinse the sink after you've emptied food, coffee grounds etc into the
sink / disposal (basic common sense stuff that people are too unconscious
to think about sometimes)
— Have a sign you can hang on the dishwasher telling people that it's
running so DO NOT OPEN while running
— Tell members to go ahead and load toilet paper if it runs out and not
have to wait and go tell you that TP is out
— Ask them, if they'd be open to pitch in and clean a toilet once in a
while if it needs cleaning (cuz you're going to end up cleaning them daily
unless you hire a service)
— We set up 3 separate recycling stations in our space but we need to do a
better job about telling people to do small things like remove the plastic
lid and paper sleeve from their coffee cups and recycle those (better yet,
I think we're going to establish a new rule for our regular members – no
more plastic/paper cups from the local cafe, use your own washable coffee
mug instead)
— We set a 2 hour member guest policy, after that they need to buy a day
pass
— We have a ''quiet culture'' in the open space, we built 3 phone booths
and we let our members use the meeting rooms too for short calls if the
phone booths are full.
— We give each of our members 20 free hours of meeting room use per month,
so they can book meeting rooms either for a long phone call that they have
in their schedules or for meetings or whatever they need. You may or may
not be able to afford this so, do what works best for you.
— I'm constantly turning the lights off in the phone booths, meeting rooms
etc, we need to put signs up telling people to turn them off (even though
the rooms have automatic sensors, the lights stay on for a while after the
room or phone booth is vacated) so you might want to consider the same
thing. Some people when entering the office in the morning turn on the
entire panel of lights automatically without thinking whether that is
really necessary. It never is, so several times a week I'm turning off
about 50% of the lights someone mindlessly turned on when they let
themselves in early in the morning.
— We built 2 private offices originally, we're looking at converting our
largest (and most underutilized) meeting room into 5 small private offices
and another nook we have into 2 more meeting rooms, plus converting one
meeting room we have now over to a private office, giving us 8 private
offices and 4 meeting rooms total

That's all I have off the top of my head.

Alejandro Moreno S. 
Cofounder/VP VenturePad 



On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:11 AM  wrote:

> In addition to what the other experts here suggest, research what Mark
> Eaton of the Cochrane Corner did. I believe it was based on Angel's advice
> and it was clearly successful. I recently spoke with Mark and he is looking
> for a second location. Not bad for a semi-rural operator.
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 2:46:33 AM UTC-7, superio...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Guys!
>>
>> Tomorrow is my first meet and greets for my coworking community.  I am
>> building the community before acquiring the actual space.  What are some
>> topics or processes I should cover tomorrow during the meet and greet?  Any
>> advice for topics to be discussed? Ice breaker techniques?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Trey
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Re: [Coworking] Computer Monitors? --Should we offer them?

[Alejandro Moreno]

We offer them as a standard part of our resident (dedicated) desks, which
is our top tier membership. Every resident desk has one. If a resident
member doesn't want one, we remove it. They are the standard, free-standing
monitors (though a well known local biotech giant has 4 desks at our space,
and they mounted 4 of those ultra-wide wraparound monitors at each of their
desks on one of those hydraulic arm things, hella slick). However, each
resident member is free to bring in their own monitor if they prefer, for
whatever reason.

We have a few extras in case one of our open space members (''hot desk'')
wants to use one, though we don't actively publicize that. Though they are
also welcome to bring in their own and store it on our premises. We also
have a few meeting rooms here and sometimes we get a request for a desktop
monitor instead of the wall-mounted monitors we have in each meeting room,
so they come in handy for that too.

This is simply what we do, not gospel by any means.

Alejandro Moreno S. 
Cofounder/VP VenturePad 
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 8:17 AM AK  wrote:

> I have a potential member asking about a second monitor so he can plug in
> his laptop and see a larger screen.  What is the consensus here?  is it
> common to have monitors at each desk or does anyone offer them on a rental
> basis?  And do you use desktop mounts or free standing?
>
> Ideas welcome
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[Coworking] Re: Made it to the front page of the newspaper

[lauren]

Congrats! I am located in Columbia, MD and Frederick is my absolute 
favorite city in Maryland. I've yet to find a cool coworking space here in 
Columbia, but Frederick isn't too far :). 


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On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:14:21 PM UTC-5, Glen Ferguson wrote:
>
> It took us six years, but we made it out of the inner local section and on 
> to the front page of our local paper. The online version omits a photo of 
> the two members the story leads with so it seems a bit disjointed at the 
> start.
>
> Despite us downplaying the telework aspect, as that's only a small 
> percentage of our members, that was the story she wanted to tell before she 
> ever came in to see us. But that's the only major flaw this time around, 
> so... progress!
>
>
> https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/economy_and_business/employment/cowork-frederick-provides-a-sense-of-community-for-teleworkers/article_fdde2821-a150-5c7e-ba2a-8b7826be90fd.html
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Re: [Coworking] Internet Speed thoughts - also Comcast vs Verizon vs both

[Alejandro Moreno]

We use Comcast Business, we've had good luck with them the last 2 years
since we opened. Though for a while we had problems but it turned out it
wasn't Comcast, there was a closet in the garage downstairs that the
building manager had assumed wasn't relevant to us. After troubleshooting a
while and not finding the problem (speed was too low and we were paying for
the 500MB speed package), the tech insisted that the manager let him see
that closet. She finally relented and sure enough, there was internet cable
in there that led to our office space, and the cable was skinny and flimsy.
Once we replaced that cable with the nice thick stuff, we were finally
getting the 500MB download that Comcast promises. That comes into a fairly
large ''Business'' modem, the biggest one Comcast has, and then that is
distributed throughout our space via 4 Engenius access points, which is a
''poor man's'' way of helping distribute load/demand.

Once we get some other expenses out of the way, and membership increases,
we're going to look at Meraki. They are THE deal when it comes to load
balancing Wi FI demand in office spaces. For now though the 500MB download
package and 4 Engenius access points suffice. Note — the 500MB speed does
not carry all the way through the Engenius access points, it will drop,
though the speed is still more than enough for users.

Alejandro Moreno S. 
Cofounder/VP VenturePad 


On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:17 AM Alex Hillman 
wrote:

>
>> Alex...what are your thoughts on a MESH network?  does this help with
>> latency?  We are considering increasing our speed (currently at 25 dl / 4
>> up) and thought maybe we should try a mesh network ( Ubiquiti  or Google or
>> EERO) -
>>
>
> I would always prefer hard line network to my access points over mesh if
> possible. For your size, it *probably* doesn't matter, but meshing
> devices is just one more thing to go wrong that is hard to diagnose whereas
> a hard line either works or doesn't.
>
> -Alex
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Re: [Coworking] Co-Working Membership Software?!?!? HAAAAALP!!

[Crystal Maynard]

This is an interesting idea!! Can you email me directly with more
information?! I'd like to talk more.

Thank you!
Crystal

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 6:02 PM Ky Ekinci (Office Divvy ™) <
askpalmco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello Crystal,
>
> After 11 years of trying third-party cloud solutions, at Office Divvy
> we've developed our own cloud-solution last year, and it's been one of the
> best investments we made.
>
> As a small-space, small-city coworking provider we offer it all:
> hotdesking, private office and conference room sharing, dedicated stations,
> and dedicated offices for members (subscriptions) PLUS single-use (ad hoc
> use of space) for non members. Our solution is customized to handle all.
>
> As we're considering to take this to market as a SAAS solution, and I'd be
> willing to "pilot" it with you complimentary for 12 months with full
> support for setup. No fees for first year at all. I believe it will solve
> all your problems from startup-phase into early operations from day-1. It
> would also hold up into into maturity of your biz.
>
> Let me know if interested, just call me Tuesday, 386-445-4153 and I'll get
> you a real user seat (member view), plus give you a real life, real time
> demo of Manager and Admin views.
>
> Best,
>
> Ky Ekinci
> Managing Partner
> Office Divvy - est 2008
> toll-free: 888-533-4889
>
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[Coworking] Re: Computer Monitors? --Should we offer them?

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

I do not provide monitors to permanent desk members but I do provide a 
collection of monitors for hot desk members because it's a shared amenity 
that people love. I think renting monitors out is a nickle and dimming 
issue that just hurts the culture more then generating revenue. It's like 
printing in my mind in that sense.

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[Coworking] Re: Computer Monitors? --Should we offer them?

[Carl Sullivan]

So I provide monitors on my hot desks because our space has lots of 
designers, and they love them. The downside is that its a major factor in 
why a member would upgrade from a part time desk to a full time one.

If I could go back and do it again I would build way more offices, and 
every open plan desks would be (in Sydney prices) $500 a month for 
unlimited hot desk use or $600 a month to make that hot desk (with my 
monitor) as your full time desk.

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 2:18:01 AM UTC+11, AK wrote:
>
> I have a potential member asking about a second monitor so he can plug in 
> his laptop and see a larger screen.  What is the consensus here?  is it 
> common to have monitors at each desk or does anyone offer them on a rental 
> basis?  And do you use desktop mounts or free standing?
>
> Ideas welcome
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[Coworking] Re: Getting Rooms Booked

[Nicole Vasquez]

Hi Toni!

Where is your workspace located? Deskpass  is 
launching meeting room rentals this week and we do all the work in 
advertising/marketing your rooms for you. 

Would love to learn more about your space and help sell your rooms!

Thanks,
Nicole

On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 10:10:25 AM UTC-4, Toni Craig-Cox wrote:
>
> Does anyone use anything other than Liquid Space to get their meeting 
> rooms books so that they are not just sitting vacant?
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Re: [Coworking] Need advice! We're building a page for growing spaces to look for coworking consultants easily!

[Jacob Sayles]

Good timing!  My wife Katie and I have our own coworking consultancy
business and we were talking about proposing some kind of Coworking
Consultants Unite talk in the unconference portion of the upcoming GCUC in
Denver.  Working together is my tool of choice when it comes to getting the
word out about our individual offerings and in helping us all succeed.  I'm
keen on getting this conversation as big as possible.  To that end I just
created a #consultants channel on the Coworking Slack Channel
.
What's next?

Jacob Sayles
Technical Director
Kanawha Design Studio
https://kanawha.design


On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:11 AM  wrote:

> Hi friends of the community!
>
> After running our coworking publication coworkingresources.org for quite
> some time now, we have received a good amount of feedback from our
> community that they find it *hard to look for expert advice* from
> coworking consultants objectively.
> The fact is, it is *super hard to find coworking consultants online*, and
> most of the time people depend on word of mouth or referrals. That alone,
> however, may not be the most suited to your needs nor the best, objective
> source.
>
> We decided to build an *unbiased platform that lists coworking consultant
> *with comprehensive information like their expertise and types of
> services they provide, as well as provide a review system where old clients
> can leave comments for the community to understand their services better.
> Right now, we have about 15 coworking consultants from the US and Europe
> who are willing to work together with us, and write expert pieces of
> content for the community to learn tips and tricks from.
>
> To make this page as helpful and unbiased as possible, what we need help
> from this community is an *introduction to more coworking consultants*,
> precisely because it is so hard to find them solely based on the internet.
>
> We want to build out this page with you guys, and let you be as involved
> as possible in this attempt at helping spaces at are starting out to get
> the help they need.
>
> Moving forward, we'll keep posting here as we build the page from mockup
> to fruition. Stay tuned, we're so so excited too!
>
> Please help us!
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[Coworking] Computer Monitors? --Should we offer them?

[AK]

I have a potential member asking about a second monitor so he can plug in 
his laptop and see a larger screen.  What is the consensus here?  is it 
common to have monitors at each desk or does anyone offer them on a rental 
basis?  And do you use desktop mounts or free standing?

Ideas welcome

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[Coworking] Re: Quickbooks connection to Nexudus

[Jana Greer]

Thank you for your email address. I will be in touch 

Maybe we could do a zoom call with others around this topic? 

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[Coworking] A/V - any advice on what Audio and Video Equipment for an event space.

[Tomas J.]

Dear all,

We just recently finished building our event space and would like to 
install an A/V system that is versatile, not expensive, and enough for a 
1,500 sq/ft open space.

We are most likely going to be using it for conferences, workshops, 
projections and sometimes for yoga classes. 
We probably need:  Microphone, speakers, projector, connection to laptops, 
phones. 


Any recommendation will be welcomed. Thank you very much. Have a great 
weekend.!

Kind regards,

Tomas

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[Coworking] Re: Mailbox Services for Non-Coworkers

[Lori Hamilton]

Paula:

I am a consultant in the Workspace Industry & for a Virtual Office/Digital 
Mail Service Channel Partner and can tell you that I see pricing all over 
the place for mail service only (Virtual Office Clients) $9.99 - $149.99 
per month.  Sometimes the address pricing comes with additional perks like 
conference room time, coworking hours or directory listings added in, 
sometimes just straight use of address.  A main pricing factor will be 
based on the location of your Center and competitive pricing in your area.

I can't really think of any Cons to taking on Virtual Office clients, just 
Pros.  Especially if you do it correctly.  You don't just sign them on as a 
Virtual and then forget about them.  You need to include them as part of 
your community.  A Virtual Client has been a potential Coworking Member, 
full-time Office Space client, Conference Room user & Event Space booking.  
You can offer ad-ons to the basic Virtual Client membership: conference 
room hours, directory listing, event space discount, digital mail service.  
The best part, besides increasing your revenue stream, is that you don't 
have to provide physical mailboxes so your potential to grow this area of 
your business is endless (you can keep mail in locked/secured filing 
cabinets in file folders).  *With a staggering 540,000 new businesses being 
formed each month (69% of entrepreneurs start their business from home and 
52% of small businesses in the US are home based),* *you can see the 
potential for an amazing revenue source*.  If you are serious about wanting 
to build your Virtual Client base and take advantage of this growing 
revenue source, I would definintely recommend using Channel Partners to 
help increase your Virtual Base in additional to your own internal 
efforts.  The Channel Partners can reach Virtuals that would probably never 
find your Center through your own organic efforts - most of the time from 
another area of the country or world.  

You do need to make sure that you have completed and filed a CMRA 
application (Commercial Mail Receiving Agency) with the US post office.  
And if you go in and they look at you like you have 3 heads, just ignore 
them and insist on speaking with a manager and insist that they file it.  
Sadly, the Postal System doesn't always know their own Rules & Regs.  Also, 
you will need to obtain a Form 1583 from each Virtual Client in order for 
them to use your address.  Again, these need to be filed with the Post 
Office but they may not even know what they are.  Just insist on doing it 
and maintain documentation.  If you don't follow the regulations, they 
could stop your mail delivery.  There are specific Rules & Regs as to who 
needs to complete the 1583s when it comes to coworking, office memberships 
& virtual clients.  Make sure you understand them.

I hope this information was helpful to you.  If you have any questions or 
need any additional help, please don't hesitate to reach out to me.

Warmest regards-

Lori Hamilton
Hamilton Virtual Business Solutions/
Get Spaced, LLC
(757) 694-1205
l...@hvbsolutions.com
www.HVBSolutions.com
www.iPostal1.com



On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:48:46 AM UTC-5, pa...@soarco-working.com 
wrote:

> Do you sell a mailbox service including your business address as a 
> stand-alone service to non-coworkers?  If yes:
> 1.  Your price point?
> 2.  Pros?
> 3.  Cons?
>
> Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences!
>
> Paula Blair
> SOAR Co-Working Inc.
> www.soarco-working.com
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Mailbox Services for Non-Coworkers

[Eric Haas]

Hey Jeanine - dank! wat is je mobiele nummer? (volgens mij heb je mij niet
al eerder een keer gebeld?) dan zou ik je graag nog even nader spreken!
Thanks, Eric

Op vr 22 mrt. 2019 om 11:05 schreef Jeannine van der Linden <
flexkantoorkame...@gmail.com>:

> Hi, Eric,
>
> In the Netherlands specifically the provision of this service is subject
> to anti-terrorism financing, anti-whitewashing, and anti-fraud laws
> (wwft).  In both Europe and the US it is covered by the KYC (know your
> client) regulations.
>
> It is an excellent service and extremely popular;  it is also important to
> get right the first time, as the fines for violation are really not
> trivial.  So your basic approach is good I think but you will need to
> include in your pricing the cost of compliance.
>
> I have also already gone nine rounds with the KvK and the BD about what is
> necessary and what is not.  It is not that they have to more or less
> permanently use the space, it is that they have to have the right to do
> so.  Under certain circumstances the tax authorities require what is called
> a permanent establishment for the issuance of a VAT number but this does
> not affect the KvK address.
>
> Feel free to contact me if you want to talk about it in detail (or in
> Dutch. :-))
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Jeannine
> deKamer.eu
>
> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:01:03 AM UTC+1, Eric Haas wrote:
>>
>> Hey Paula, I have recently took over a coworking space in Amsterdam. Now
>> in the process of setting up all the policies. A couple of weeks ago a
>> client asked me whether or not I would be able to help him with the
>> possibility for a legal registration on the physical address. My small
>> investigation proves that this can be done as a coworking space (or multi
>> tenant office building). My initial idea for the  pricing is to charge
>> €25/month and let the client choose the usage plan that goes along with it.
>> From basic (€50/month) to flex (€150/month) and fixed (€250/month). In the
>> latter the registration is already included in the package. Somewhere I've
>> read that the registration is only legally valid if the person or company
>> can prove they can more or less permanently use the space. 8 leave the
>> choice and responsibility for accounting with my client.
>> So far my thoughts on this! Happy to learn more from you guys.
>> Eric Haas
>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Do you require Hot Desk users to schedule or walk-in?

[Alex Hillman]

Even when we were tiny (<1800 sq ft) we never required pre-scheduled usage,
and never have. We DO ask people to pre-schedule tours (though we won't
turn away a walk-in, we might ask them to hang out in our lounge until
we're done with something), but to come in and work I've seen it be an
unnecessary barrier in far too many cases.

Often people plan to come in, and their plans change. Sometimes, people
realize that they need a change of scenery.

Most people do the scheduling systems because they fear overbooking, but
when I ask, they've never actually experienced overbooking or even close to
it! And especially when you have a mix of alternative zones (including
lounge/kitchen type gathering spaces) there's always a backup for someone
to have a spot they could sit and work.

So instead of having people pre-register, the metric we monitor is the
daily average # of empty spots. And when that number begins to REGULARLY
get close to zero (for even the smallest spaces, I suggest when that number
gets anywhere near 2-3 empty spots), we start a waiting list for our
highest-usage flex membership options (in our case, that's a 3 day a week
plan). This means we stop adding new flex desk-users who are most likely to
come in often and take us to "zero spots left."

IMO, this metric is muuch more useful than "occupancy" which celebrates
100%. I never want our space to be 100% occupied, I want it to be
comfortably active and with available spots for someone to walk in
unexpectedly and have a great day. The easiest way to do that is to make
sure there is always at least 1 open seat, and design that into your space
& business model.

-Alex



On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:03 AM  wrote:

> That is a good idea, but sometimes people who have impromtu needs might be
> turned off
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 3:49:07 PM UTC+1, AK wrote:
>>
>> Wondering. Since we have limited space that we want to get maximum use
>> out of, should we require our "hot desk" users to pre-schedule or at least
>> call?  I hate to turn people away, but feel in order to accommodate, people
>> should plan.
>>
>> We are a small space owner and may not even open if people are not using
>> it for the day.
>>
>> Feedback welcome.
>>
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[Coworking] Re: Mailbox Services for Non-Coworkers

[Jeannine van der Linden]

Hi, Eric,

In the Netherlands specifically the provision of this service is subject to 
anti-terrorism financing, anti-whitewashing, and anti-fraud laws (wwft).  
In both Europe and the US it is covered by the KYC (know your client) 
regulations.

It is an excellent service and extremely popular;  it is also important to 
get right the first time, as the fines for violation are really not 
trivial.  So your basic approach is good I think but you will need to 
include in your pricing the cost of compliance.  

I have also already gone nine rounds with the KvK and the BD about what is 
necessary and what is not.  It is not that they have to more or less 
permanently use the space, it is that they have to have the right to do 
so.  Under certain circumstances the tax authorities require what is called 
a permanent establishment for the issuance of a VAT number but this does 
not affect the KvK address.
 
Feel free to contact me if you want to talk about it in detail (or in 
Dutch. :-))

Warm regards,

Jeannine
deKamer.eu

On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:01:03 AM UTC+1, Eric Haas wrote:
>
> Hey Paula, I have recently took over a coworking space in Amsterdam. Now 
> in the process of setting up all the policies. A couple of weeks ago a 
> client asked me whether or not I would be able to help him with the 
> possibility for a legal registration on the physical address. My small 
> investigation proves that this can be done as a coworking space (or multi 
> tenant office building). My initial idea for the  pricing is to charge 
> €25/month and let the client choose the usage plan that goes along with it. 
> From basic (€50/month) to flex (€150/month) and fixed (€250/month). In the 
> latter the registration is already included in the package. Somewhere I've 
> read that the registration is only legally valid if the person or company 
> can prove they can more or less permanently use the space. 8 leave the 
> choice and responsibility for accounting with my client. 
> So far my thoughts on this! Happy to learn more from you guys. 
> Eric Haas

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Re: [Coworking] VIdeo Conferencing Hardware

[Oliver Coffey]

Our plan is HDMI and nice camera. Before I go through trial and error of 
the camera, is there one that you recommend that works well with macs and 
pcs alike? 

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 11:38:56 AM UTC-5, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>
> Alex touches on an often overlooked element of coworking vs a standard 
> office.  In typical office environment the IT department controls the 
> laptops as well as the meeting room equipment.  In a coworking space that 
> is not the case.  Anything that requires extra software to install is an 
> extra step members  will need to do and extra help your staff is going to 
> need to help them with.  While it may seem "easy" when you do it once, it's 
> more like death by a thousand cuts.  And of course there are always members 
> that bring in an old dusty laptop with outdated software and you have to 
> find a way to support that as well.  
>
> I had the opportunity to buy fancy systems and instead opted to put a nice 
> camera on the TV and extend USB + HDMI to the middle of the table.  This 
> leaves the door open for any system they want to run on their computer.  
>
> Jacob Sayles
> Collaborative Systems Designer
> Kanawha Design Studio
> https://kanawha.design
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:09 AM Alex Hillman  > wrote:
>
>> I would strongly challenge the idea that this is a "must."  
>>
>> It's something to break, to maintain, to replace, and to worry about 
>> training people to use. We've tried several "meeting room" boxes and have 
>> sent them all back in favor of Zoom and Zoom rooms for our own stuff and 
>> letting everyone bring their own. 
>>
>> Plus, like you said, everybody has their own platform preferences and 
>> requirements. So whatever you choose, you can expect a large % of people to 
>> NOT use it. 
>>
>>
>> Choosing hardware and systems like this makes more sense for an office 
>> who has their own space, but far less so for shared resources. 
>>
>> The two most high value improvements I've seen for video conferencing is 
>> adjustable table lighting to help people look nicer on camera, and 
>> dedicated Ethernet cables and adapters to ensure people can and do plug 
>> their computers in for the most stable internet connection possible. 
>>
>>
>>
>> -Alex
>> On Nov 19, 2018, 4:35 PM -0500, Carl Sullivan > >, wrote:
>>
>> Hey Guys, 
>>
>> In the 7 years, we have been running coworking, I have noticed a shift 
>> from meeting spaces that have the optional extra video conferencing system 
>> to it being a must in almost any meeting room that is 3 people or more.
>>
>> The challenge is selecting the right video conferencing hardware that can 
>> support a wide range of solutions since every company who is a member of 
>> our space has a different software stack they prefer.
>>
>> SO... what are your recommendations for video conferencing hardware? If 
>> you would like to expand to your complete physical tech for a meeting 
>> space, I am also very interested in that. And what programs do you notice 
>> your members using most often for video conferencing?
>>
>> Carl
>>
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[Coworking] Re: Made it to the front page of the newspaper

[Maggie Terhune]

Congrats from coworking space in your sister city of Baltimore! This is a 
great profile!

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:14:21 PM UTC-5, Glen Ferguson wrote:
>
> It took us six years, but we made it out of the inner local section and on 
> to the front page of our local paper. The online version omits a photo of 
> the two members the story leads with so it seems a bit disjointed at the 
> start.
>
> Despite us downplaying the telework aspect, as that's only a small 
> percentage of our members, that was the story she wanted to tell before she 
> ever came in to see us. But that's the only major flaw this time around, 
> so... progress!
>
>
> https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/economy_and_business/employment/cowork-frederick-provides-a-sense-of-community-for-teleworkers/article_fdde2821-a150-5c7e-ba2a-8b7826be90fd.html
>
> *Glen Ferguson*   Tummler, Cowork Frederick 
> Phone: 301-732-5165
> Email: g...@coworkfrederick.com 
> Website: https://coworkfrederick.com
> Address: 122 E Patrick St, Frederick, MD 21701
>   
>  
> 
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[Coworking] Re: No room for a kitchen--what do I do?

[Trevor Townsend]

Here's what I managed to cram into my 1,000sqft space - a 6'x8' full 
kitchen(ette?).

Mind you, I'm not open yet so I don't have feedback, but this should work 
nicely.  Note: the stove is de-powered (breaker off at the electrical box) 
unless there is an even that needs it.







On Monday, 19 November 2018 16:36:00 UTC-5, AK wrote:
>
> Our space is small (under 1500 ft )  so we are thinking of foregoing a 
> kitchen and having a counter with a sink and small under counter fridge.  
>
> I seek ideas and photo of other spaces who have a similar situation ( no 
> full kitchen)
>
> Thoughts on the whole idea are welcome.
>
> Thank you.
>

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