[CTRL] Experts warn of new computer virus
http://usatoday.com/news/ndssun04.htm Title: Experts warn of new computer virus Wireless serviceCompare plans and phones across the USA. Digital couponsOnline savings with the Web's top vendors. Outpost.comHave your next order shipped for FREE! Inside News Nationline Washington World Politics Opinion Columnists Snapshot Science States Weird news Search Newspaper Archives Our site Yellow Pages Resources Index Search Feedback What's hot About us Jobs at USA TODAY Free premiums USA TODAY Update Software 03/28/99- Updated 01:29 PM ET Experts warn of new computer virus PITTSBURGH (AP) - A new computer virus can allow documents to be e-mailed to other people without warning, a potential security breach that should worry businesses and governments, an expert at Carnegie Mellon University said Saturday. Related links CERT information on Melissa virus Microsoft patch The ''Melissa macro'' or W97M_Melissa virus spreads via infected e-mail and attacks computers loaded with Microsoft's widely used Word 97 or Word 2000 programs, according to CERT - or Computer Emergency Response Team - Carnegie Mellon's Department of Defense-funded computer security team. CERT first heard of the virus Friday afternoon and its members worked through the night to analyze the virus and develop a fix, CERT manager Katherine Fithen said. ''We're getting so many reports from across the world, that we know this is going to be a huge problem come Monday,'' Fithen said. She noted that since CERT was founded 10 years ago, this is only the second time it has considered a virus important enough to warrant a public announcement. The first, in 1994, warned of a virus that allowed computer burglars to collect passwords. CERT has not determined where the Melissa virus originated. Fithen said she is not allowed to say whether any governmental agency has suffered a security breach as the result of Melissa. Microsoft spokesman Adam Sohn said company programmers worked with CERT and manufacturers of anti-virus programs to develop an antidote. If a computer user opens an infected Word-format document, the virus propagates itself by reading the user's e-mail address book and sending an infected message to the first 50 entries, CERT said. The message can include the contents of any Word document that is open on the computer, Fithen said. Also, the virus reproduces and sends so much unwanted e-mail that the volume can overload some mail servers, the computers that distribute e-mail. However, it apparently causes no direct damage to a computer's memory or programs. Infected documents are sent as attachments to e-mails most frequently bearing a header: ''Subject: Important Message From'' the name of person whose computer relayed the virus. The body of the message says ''Here is that document you asked for ... don't show it to anyone else ;-).'' Go to Nationline Go to News front page Front page, News, Sports, Money, Life, Weather, Marketplace © Copyright 1999 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.
[CTRL] ZDNN: Feds issue warning as virus spreads
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2233130,00.html Title: ZDNN: Feds issue warning as virus spreads Site Map Search ZDNN Page One Headline Scan News Bursts AnchorDesk Business Commentary Computing CyberCrime Internet Investor MSNBC News Silicon Spin ZDY2K Resources News Specials News Elsewhere Company Finder Custom News Contact Us Corrections Other ZD News PC Week Inter@ctive Week Sm@rt Reseller MacWeek GameSpot ZD Infobeads ZDTV News Resellers, click here. Pick a site or topic: Topic Finder Company Finder ZDNet Home ZDNet Search My ZDNet AnchorDesk At Home Auctions Benchmarks Classifieds Comdex Community computershopper.com DevHead E-Business Enterprise Equip FamilyPC GameSpot Help! Inter@ctive Investor Inter@ctive Week jobEngine Linux Mac MacWEEK Macworld Magazine Archive On Air PC Computing PC Magazine PC Week Products Small Business Sm@rt Reseller Software Library Windows Yahoo! Internet Life ZD Journals ZDNet Home ZDNN ZD Rewards ZDTV ZDU ZDY2K.com Reviews | News | Downloads | Shop | Auctions Feds issue warning as virus spreads FBI caution prompted by 'widespread' reports among commercial, government and military e-mail systems. Expert: Come Monday 'this is going to be a major problem.' By Rob Lemos, ZDNN March 27, 1999 7:13 PM PT Updated 6:00 PM PT The "Melissa" virus continued to spread across the Internet this weekend, causing a growing number of e-mail disruptions and prompting federal law enforcement agencies to issue a special warning. The warning from the FBI and National Infrastructure Protection Center marked the government's first major attempt to prevent a computer disaster. In a statement issued Sunday, the NIPC, a special unit created to protect the nation's information assets, said it had received "widespread reports" that the virus has propagated into commercial, government and military e-mail gateways and systems. Security experts characterized Melissa as the fastest-spreading computer virus they've ever encountered. They reported a mounting number of incidents, even as even e-mail traffic underwent its traditional weekend slowdown. Officials of the Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) at Carnegie Mellon University reported that by early Sunday evening more than 100 sites hade been hit by the virus. "These organizations have hundreds and thousands of machines that can't get e-mail," said Jeff Carpenter, the team leader for incident response. But that's nothing compared to what could happen on Monday, said CERT's Carpenter. "When the workforce goes back to work, this is going to be a major problem," he said. How Melissa works The Melissa virus is essentially a simple Word macro, which is a script for automating tasks within Word documents. Have an opinion on this story? Add your comments to the bottom of this page. It spreads when a user opens up an infected Word 8 or Word 9 document -- in either Office 97 or 2000 -- and executes the macro script. In some cases, however, the virus can even spread automatically among those users who have configured their systems not to not notify them when as macro is launched. The macro prompts Microsoft's Outlook e-mail program to send a document to the first 50 addresses in a user's address book, under the subject line "Important Message From" and then the user's name. "Here is the document that you asked for," the text inside the message reads. "Don't show anyone else ;-)." Even people who don't use Outlook are at risk. As long as Outlook is set up to send mail, the infected documents will be sent. In addition, the default Word template -- normal.dot, which acts as the basis of every new document that the user creates -- is infected with the co
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 11:33:37 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt > not murder". Am I wrong about this? > >> > And is is! > By this do you mean to suggest that murder and kill are the same thing? Howard Davis >> Douay-Rheims Bible Exodus Chap 20 The ten commandments. 1 And the Lord spoke all these words: 2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them. I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me: 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain. 8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works. 10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast nor the stranger that is within thy gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be long-lived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house: neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his. 18 And all the people saw the voices and the flames, and the sound of the trumpet, and the mount smoking: and being terrified and struck with fear, they stood afar off, 19 Saying to Moses: Speak thou to us, and we will hear. Let not the Lord speak to us, lest we die. 20 And Moses said to the people: Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that the dread of him might be in you, and you should not sin. 21 And the people stood afar off. But Moses went to the dark cloud wherein God was. 22 And the Lord said to Moses: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: You have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven. 23 You shall not make gods of silver: nor shall you make to yourselves gods of gold. 24 You shall make an altar of earth unto me: and you shall offer upon it your holocausts and peace offerings, your sheep and oxen, in every place where the memory of my name shall be. I will come to thee, and will bless thee. 25 And if thou make an altar of stone unto me, thou shalt not build it of hewn stones: for if thou lift up a tool upon it, it shall be defiled. 26 Thou shalt not go up by steps unto my altar, lest thy nakedness be discovered. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: PENTAGON SPOKESMAN ON STEALTH PILOT LATE MARCH 27
-Caveat Lector- A: First of all we have no way of knowing yet whether it was shot down Any word [from anywhere] yet whether it was shot down? It's been circulated that it was rather coincidental that when the Russians joined [sent in their "advisors" to help out Serbs], the F117 Stealth fighter was shot down. Didn't the Russians claim sometime ago to have technology that can take down the Stealth fighter planes? IGEUWEB wrote: > 28 March 1999 > > TRANSCRIPT: PENTAGON SPOKESMAN ON STEALTH PILOT LATE MARCH 27 > > (U.S. Stealth pilot rescued and safe at allied base) (1360) > > Pentagon Spokesman Ken Bacon briefed. > > Following is the Pentagon transcript: > > (begin transcript) > > DoD News Briefing > > Kenneth H. Bacon, ASD PA > > Saturday, March 27, 1999 > > 10:30pm EST > > BACON: ...I am happy to report that the pilot has been rescued and is > safe at an allied base. He and the Combat Search and Rescue Team that > picked him up are all safe. I do not now have a report on his > condition. That's something that we will have later, but not tonight. > > Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to give you very much detail > about this incident. We do not know, for instance, what caused this > plane to crash. That's one of the things we'll learn as we interview > the pilot and we talk to the people who flew a mission with him. But I > can stress three points. > > The first is this operation will continue. Nothing that happened today > over Yugoslavia has dampened our resolve to see this operation through > to its military ends. > > Second, we will continue to expand the target set as NATO Secretary > General Solana said today, to focus more on the forces within Kosovo > -- both the Yugoslav army forces and the special police forces > operating in Kosovo now. > > Third, I'd like to stress both the bravery of the pilot and the > heroism of the team that rescued him this evening. They performed in a > way that should make all Americans proud. > > With that, I'll take a few questions. > > Q: Ken, you say that you won't give at this point the reason or the > way the plane was downed, but we've had indications from many that in > fact it was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. The wingmen flying > with him, do they say there was any kind of apparent missile that > brought the plane down, or... > > A: Ivan, this plane was reported missing at about 3:00 o'clock our > time this afternoon. From that time, until the moment we learned the > pilot was safe and out of Yugoslav airspace, we've concentrated on > nothing but rescuing that pilot. > > We will talk to the pilot, we will talk to the other people in the > package in due time. But I think it's premature now to make any > judgment about why this plane crashed. > > Q: Can you tell me how long he was on the ground? > > A: I'm afraid I cannot give you any details like that. I won't, > precisely because we've said from the very beginning that this is a > perilous environment. The Serbs have a robust air defense system, and > I don't say that to prejudge why this plane came down. We do not know > why it came down. But there may well be other times when we have to > rescue pilots, and the less said about our techniques for rescuing > pilots, the better for the safety of the pilots. > > Q: Can you say which nation the rescuer came from? > > A: I certainly cannot. They were Americans. They were Americans, and > it was a joint team of several services, but I can't tell you where > they launched from or where they recovered to. > > Q: What about the Serb reports that two F-4s were shot down, and the > German pilots captured, are you aware of that? > > A: We have no other confirmation of missing aircraft. > > Q: How quickly did the search and rescue team go into operation? > > A: Dana, that's precisely the type of detail I'm not going to get > into, and we will not talk about search and rescues. You know these > are highly trained people who can work in all environments. They can > work very quickly. But it's this type of detail that we're not going > to give. > > Q: Can you characterize the level of air defense resistance? Were > there SAM launches tonight, for example? > > A: I can't answer that question. > > Q: You said you were concentrating on nothing else but the rescue of > this pilot. Did it affect other missions that were scheduled tonight? > Did they go off as planned or not? > > A: Missions have been going on all day and they're ongoing now. > > Q: No matter how the plane went down, this is an incredible propaganda > coup for the Serbs. What does this say about the Stealth fighter? > > A: First, I'd point out that the Serbs have lost five planes and none > of those pictures have appeared on Serb TV that I'm aware of, and they > certainly have not handed the pictures out to CNN and the other > American networks. > > The point to make here is that we will continue this mission. We are > undeterred by this. We knew that we were flying into a risky
[CTRL] Some assistance please
-Caveat Lector- Anyone have any information or personal knowledge/experience with Tres Dias? Private reply is requested if this is too far from a relevant topic. Regard$, --MJ It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis -- March 29, 1999
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/KOSOVO/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update March 29, 1999 Kosovo Crisis Points to Global Realignment Summary: Stratfor predicted both the Kosovo crisis and Serb-Iraqi collaboration in our January 1999 Annual Forecast. We also said that the Russians were critical to these situations. Our reasoning: the world is in a massive realignment designed to create an international system that can limit U.S. power. The Kosovo crisis is not so much a Russian trap for the Americans as an American created trap for itself, a gift to those who want to bring the U.S. down several notches. Analysis: On January 4, 1999, our Annual Forecast stated that: "The Serbs, supported by the Russians, will test the United States in Kosovo. There is increasing danger of a simultaneous challenge from Serbia and Iraq, straining U.S. military capabilities dramatically." Then, on January 25, 1999, we wrote the following: "Something odd is going on. The Iraqis are not allowing the latest crisis to die down, but are challenging U.S. aircraft with missiles and are deploying forces southward. Their newspapers are full of threats directed toward Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. At the same time, the Serbs deliberately carried out a massacre that was intended to be detected, and then intentionally exacerbated the crisis by trying to expel a senior diplomat. There is now the real possibility that Baghdad and Belgrade are coordinating their actions to simultaneously pose challenges that strain U.S. military capabilities. At the same time, Russia has taken on a much more assertive role, demanding that the U.S. not attack either Iraq or Serbia. The U.S. Post-Cold War coalition has completely broken down. Russia, France and China are all resisting the U.S. A window of opportunity has opened here for the Iraqis and Serbs. We see signs that they are now taking advantage of it, perhaps in concert." Today's British Sunday Telegraph is reporting that Yugoslavia and Iraq in fact signed a secret cooperation treaty. Under the agreement, Iraq would provide Yugoslavia oil and money in return for Yugoslavian help in rebuilding Iraq's air defenses. According to a British Foreign Ministry spokesman quoted by The Telegraph: "We are aware of the reports that there is a connection between the Iraqi and the Serbian regimes. Obviously this is a cause for concern and demonstrates the sort of company that Milosevic is now keeping. The Prime Minister is aware of these reports. Nothing would surprise us about Saddam or Milosevic." In other words, the British are confirming the reports. The point here is not simply to demonstrate how right we were, although we don't mind if anybody notices. Rather, it is to try to demonstrate that things are not as chaotic as they appear. There are broad, global forces at work that have led the world to this current crisis in Yugoslavia and which point the way to events beyond. When we consider why Stratfor reached the conclusions it did in January, it will be easier to understand what these forces are and what they portend. Stratfor has been focusing for several years on the disequilibrium of the international system. Like everything else, the international system seeks equilibrium. Ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the system has been unbalanced. The United States was not only overwhelmingly powerful, but no conceivable group of nations could resist the basic thrusts of U.S. policy. Given U.S. political and economic supremacy, virtually all nations, save a small group of "outlaw" nations, were prepared to collaborate with the United States. Put differently, any nation not prepared to collaborate with the United States was, by definition, an outlaw or rogue state. Over time, it was inevitable that other nations would seek to create a counterbalance to the United States designed to create room for maneuver for themselves. Creating such a counterbalance was extremely difficult. The economic advantages of collaboration with the United States were so great, that political or military resistance to American initiatives was irrational. Neither Russia nor China, for example, would collaborate with each other if the consequence of such collaboration would be American economic retribution. Thus, since 1991 an extremely strange and even unnatural disequilibrium dominated the world. The United States presided over a global coalition and isolated any nation that would not participate. The Asian economic crisis and the Russian economic collapse were only barely connected economically. Yet, they were profoundly connected politically. As Russia's and China's economies struggled under the burdens of economic contraction, each began to experience a degree of internal political inst
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 3/28/99 8:28:22 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt > not murder". Am I wrong about this? > >> > And is is! > By this do you mean to suggest that murder and kill are the same thing? Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Indiana Jones
Please accept the following release for inclusion in your mailing list or newsletter. It promises to be a lively show! Dr. Vendyl Jones (aka "Indiana Jones") is scheduled as a featured guest on Jeff Rense Show ~ Sightings on Monday, April 5th, 7-10:00 pm Pacific Time. You can listen live on Real Audio. (Also archived after the show.) Feel free to use our linked site at http://www.immunotex.com/show/ This is a Jeff Rense interview exclusive with one of the most controversial figures in our time! Dr. Jones' areas of expertise include the Land of Israel's mysteries and anomalies, his ongoing search for the Ashes of the Red Heifer and the Ark of the Covenant, and the conspiracy and cover-up concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls. Monday, April 5th! Mark your calendar! The call in line will be 800 850-5043 --- Thank you! Laurence & Jocelyn Savage <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> MYSTERIES OF THE PYRAMIDS, self-published by a man who was part of the team that entered the secret chamber six times, took 2,700 microfilms, then spent a decade in translation. The book they didn't want you to see twenty years ago is reprinted, http://www.immunotex.com/pyramid/
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- The questions leave a lot to be desired and there are not nearly enough questions to give a good profile. 1. Military service should be voluntary. (No draft) No draft except in wartime if we are being attacked, then anyone refusing the draft should be shot or hung, in public. Also the military should not be run by a draft dodger and not be held back by wimpy civilian control like in Korea or Vietnam, if war is declared, then win it, don't pussyfoot. 2. Government should not control radio, TV, the press or the Internet. Yes and the government should not have any secrets. Truth in government for a change. 3. Repeal regulations on sex for consenting adults. Yes as long as it is in the privacy of their home. 4. Drug laws do more harm than good. Repeal them. Yes, all drugs, I don't want to give some rich doctor $50 so he/she can give me a prescription for antibiotics when I have a bad cold and know I need antibiotics. 5. Let peaceful people cross borders freely. No, then we would have half of Mexico wanting to move here. Economic Issues 1. Businesses and farms should operate without govt. subsidies. Yes with no reservations. 2. People are better off with free trade than with tariffs. Tariffs would be better than the current "free trade" which isn't free at all. I could agree if it was real free trade. 3. Minimum wage laws cause unemployment. Repeal them. Undecided, anyone who works for minimum wage would have a hard time surviving in this country, if they made less they might only make enough money to buy a gun and rob people for a living. 4. End taxes. Pay for services with user fees. This sounds like a good idea to me, I don't use the freebies govt. provides. The $14,000 I pay in income taxes would buy me a lot of services. 5. All foreign aid should be privately funded. Absolutely, let these other countries fend for themselves. Who do you support in the 2000 U.S. Presidential election? No One, none of them, they are all crooked well, maybe Ron Paul, I haven't heard anything bad about him yet. The way I had to answer the questions, I was rated as a Moderate, leaning toward Libertarian. I think of myself as a conservative, a true conservative, not a right wing type, but thinking more liberal as far as personal freedoms are concerned. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Indiana Jones
Check this out, he is an excellent source of information. Teo1000 Please accept the following release for inclusion in your mailing list or newsletter. It promises to be a lively show! Dr. Vendyl Jones (aka "Indiana Jones") is scheduled as a featured guest on Jeff Rense Show ~ Sightings on Monday, April 5th, 7-10:00 pm Pacific Time. You can listen live on Real Audio. (Also archived after the show.) Feel free to use our linked site at http://www.immunotex.com/show/ This is a Jeff Rense interview exclusive with one of the most controversial figures in our time! Dr. Jones' areas of expertise include the Land of Israel's mysteries and anomalies, his ongoing search for the Ashes of the Red Heifer and the Ark of the Covenant, and the conspiracy and cover-up concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls. Monday, April 5th! Mark your calendar! The call in line will be 800 850-5043 --- Thank you! Laurence & Jocelyn Savage <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> <<<>>> MYSTERIES OF THE PYRAMIDS, self-published by a man who was part of the team that entered the secret chamber six times, took 2,700 microfilms, then spent a decade in translation. The book they didn't want you to see twenty years ago is reprinted, http://www.immunotex.com/pyramid/
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] 1/2 PSYCHOELECTRONIC THREAT
Some interesting observations from the MC list. Teo1000 [Only the first part of this message is displayed. The entire message has been turned into a text attachment, which you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word processor or text editor for reading.] Author's contact info and list of over 70 references including Cheryl Welsh are at end of this article in two parts (1/2 & 2/2) fwd: Author= [Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research ] "Neuroscience is being increasingly recognized as posing potential threat to human rights" (from the article on the annual public meeting of the French National Bioethics Committee in magazine Nature, volume 391, January 22, 1998) PSYCHOELECTRONIC THREAT TO DEMOCRACY - THE SECRET ARMS RACE THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE USA BUILT RADAR SYSTEMS THAT COULD ENABLE THEM TO CONTROL THE MINDS OF WHOLE POPULATIONS SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION, MILITARY DOCUMENTS, WARNINGS BY CIVILIAN AND MILITARY RESEARCHERS CONTENTS 1. The History the scandal in the USA and electrical stimulation of the brain. 2. Mind stimulating devices can alter our psyche 3. Scientific experiments and patents - effects of electromagnetism on animal and human organisms and brains 4. American military documents on the development of radiofrequency weapons the nervous system function is not much different from the radio receiver 5. The Secret arms race and hushed up scandal in the USSR 6. Thought control and the invention of Igor Smirnov 7. American radar system HAARP could be used for the global control of human minds 8. A secret conference organized by the American National Laboratory in Los Alamos 9. Have the radiofrequency weapons been put to use yet? 10. The Revolution in military affairs may result in the destruction of democracy 11. Warnings by civil and military scientists The missing parts and chapters and the list of those who support the ban of radiofrequency weapons controling the functions of human brain you can find at the address: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/2289/webpage.htm HISTORY - THE SCANDAL IN THE USA IN THE SEVENTIES AND Author's contact info and list of over 70 references including Cheryl Welsh are at end of this article in two parts (1/2 & 2/2) fwd: Author= [Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research ] "Neuroscience is being increasingly recognized as posing potential threat to human rights" (from the article on the annual public meeting of the French National Bioethics Committee in magazine Nature, volume 391, January 22, 1998) PSYCHOELECTRONIC THREAT TO DEMOCRACY - THE SECRET ARMS RACE THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE USA BUILT RADAR SYSTEMS THAT COULD ENABLE THEM TO CONTROL THE MINDS OF WHOLE POPULATIONS SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION, MILITARY DOCUMENTS, WARNINGS BY CIVILIAN AND MILITARY RESEARCHERS CONTENTS 1. The History the scandal in the USA and electrical stimulation of the brain. 2. Mind stimulating devices can alter our psyche 3. Scientific experiments and patents - effects of electromagnetism on animal and human organisms and brains 4. American military documents on the development of radiofrequency weapons the nervous system function is not much different from the radio receiver 5. The Secret arms race and hushed up scandal in the USSR 6. Thought control and the invention of Igor Smirnov 7. American radar system HAARP could be used for the global control of human minds 8. A secret conference organized by the American National Laboratory in Los Alamos 9. Have the radiofrequency weapons been put to use yet? 10. The Revolution in military affairs may result in the destruction of democracy 11. Warnings by civil and military scientists The missing parts and chapters and the list of those who support the ban of radiofrequency weapons controling the functions of human brain you can find at the address: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Campus/2289/webpage.htm HISTORY - THE SCANDAL IN THE USA IN THE SEVENTIES AND THE ELECTRICAL BRAIN STIMULATION When in 1951 American secret services started work on the project Artichoke they have set their goals as follows: Evolution and development of any method by which we can get information from a person against his will and without his knowledge... Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against such fundamental laws of nature such as self preservation? The signals in the nerves, in the brain and the whole body are carried by weak electrical impulses. The scientists who experimented since 1930 with the electrical stimulation of the brain inserted tiny wires (electrodes) into the brains of animals and humans and stimulated the nerves in different points of the brain
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] 2/2 PSYCHOELECTRONIC THREAT
[Only the first part of this message is displayed. The entire message has been turned into a text attachment, which you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word processor or text editor for reading.] THE AMERICAN SYSTEM HAARP COULD BE USED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF GLOBAL MIND CONTROL In 1992 the Independent Moscow Institute for Foreign Affairs published in the weekly Stolitsa the communication by Victor Sedletski that already in 1982 in the USSR began the development of the new radar system which could be used to create psychotronic field for mind control (64). At the end of 1994 the first tests of the most powerful radar system in the world were carried out in Alaska. This year its power should reach 10 billion watts. Among the main features of the system belongs its ability to heat the ionosphere and in this way change its altitude. By this kind of manipulation of the ionosphere it is possible to bounce the electromagnetic waves back from the ionosphere to whichever region on the planet. According to the official information by the U.S. government the system HAARP is designed for scientific research. Anyway there are too many facts suggesting that the major reason for its construction are military purposes. The building of the system started the E-Systems corporation which in 1992 made 2,1 billion dollars in sales out of which 1,8 billion were for classified projects. The whole project is financed by the American Navy and Air Force. The main patent of Bernard J. Eastlund (number 4,686,605) proposes the use of the system among others for destruction of navigation systems of airplanes and missiles wherever in the atmosphere, interference with all communication systems wherever on the planet (remember the CNN programme on Russian electromagnetic weapons), the global weather control and creation or repair of the ozone holes. Other patents connected with the system propose the use of the system for induction of detonations in the extent of nuclear explosions (again recall the CNN programme) and other military uses. In 1995 the U.S. government stopped financing of the project until the army will develop th THE AMERICAN SYSTEM HAARP COULD BE USED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF GLOBAL MIND CONTROL In 1992 the Independent Moscow Institute for Foreign Affairs published in the weekly Stolitsa the communication by Victor Sedletski that already in 1982 in the USSR began the development of the new radar system which could be used to create psychotronic field for mind control (64). At the end of 1994 the first tests of the most powerful radar system in the world were carried out in Alaska. This year its power should reach 10 billion watts. Among the main features of the system belongs its ability to heat the ionosphere and in this way change its altitude. By this kind of manipulation of the ionosphere it is possible to bounce the electromagnetic waves back from the ionosphere to whichever region on the planet. According to the official information by the U.S. government the system HAARP is designed for scientific research. Anyway there are too many facts suggesting that the major reason for its construction are military purposes. The building of the system started the E-Systems corporation which in 1992 made 2,1 billion dollars in sales out of which 1,8 billion were for classified projects. The whole project is financed by the American Navy and Air Force. The main patent of Bernard J. Eastlund (number 4,686,605) proposes the use of the system among others for destruction of navigation systems of airplanes and missiles wherever in the atmosphere, interference with all communication systems wherever on the planet (remember the CNN programme on Russian electromagnetic weapons), the global weather control and creation or repair of the ozone holes. Other patents connected with the system propose the use of the system for induction of detonations in the extent of nuclear explosions (again recall the CNN programme) and other military uses. In 1995 the U.S. government stopped financing of the project until the army will develop the application of the system for the earth penetrating tomography. In this application the system HAARP should be able to find, using extra low frequency electromagnetic radiation, deposits of minerals underneath the Earth surface, but as well the underground shelters, factories, tunnels and other facilities. At the end of 1995 the authors of the book Angels dont Play This HAARP visited the director of the HAARP program, Hecksher. He told them that in this application the HAARP system will use frequencies between 12 and 20 Hz or perhaps 1 Hz. Those are frequencies which affect human nervous system. It is true those waves are too long to make it possible to aim them at human beings and most probably they will not carry the biological information to affect human brains, but still their effects on human nervous system are not alltogethe
[CTRL] News Links on NATO Aggression (What the Western Media Is Not Telling You)
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/yugoslavia.htm http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/yugoslavia.htm">STOP NATO - STOP NATO'S AGGRESSION ON YUGOSLAVIA! NO TO CRIMINAL ATTACKS ON A SOVEREIGN NATION! Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins: http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/tim-stmt.html Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia: http://www.mfa.gov.yu/Latestnews/index_e.html Tanjug News Agency: http://www.tanjug.co.yu/Arhiva/1999/Mar%20-%2099/27-03e01.html Serbia Info Latest News & Background Reports: http://www.serbia-info.com/news/index.html International Action Center -- Coordination of Anti-War Protests: http://www.iacenter.org/ Serbia Threatened With Aggression: http://www.serbia-info.com/threat/index.html Kosovo & Metohija (web site of the Serbian Democratic Movement): http://kosovo.serbhost.org/ Radio Jugoslavija http://www.beograd.com/radioyu/index.html Return to New Dawn Magazine Home Page - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WhoWhere, a great search engine.
-Caveat Lector- If you need to find someone then just go here: http://www.whowhere.lycos.com Enjoy Teo1000 Get Listed! First Name Last Name Email (advanced)Phone & Address (advanced)On the Web Free Email Free Homepages Free Calendar Message Boards Personal Guide Find a Job Find a Mortgage Debt Consolidation Post Your Resume Buy . Sell . Collect Car Insurance Quote Autobytel.com Public Records Find Any Book Personals Web Guides AutosMoney Business News Computers People/Society Entertainment Real Estate Games Shopping Health Sports Home/Family Travel Kids Women More Lookups Homepages Communities Celebrity Search 3D People Finder Find Ancestors Maps & Directions Yellow Pages Win a Ski Package to a resort in Vail! Our Partners > Español Français Help Feedback company info advertising press link to WhoWhere jobs DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Black Vault
-Caveat Lector- Enter only if you dare. URL: http://www.blackvault.com Enjoy Teo1000 Welcome to The Black Vault, your premier source for government documents pertaining to a vast array of subjects. You are entering a database that is one of a kind on the world of the Internet, and a database in which you can not find anywhere else. The Black Vault is not much of a web site, but an online research center for curious minds, students, and everyone alike. What is it? The Black Vault is a site created by myself, John Greenewald, Jr. (a 17 year old Senior at Alemany High School), to better inform the public of what is going on within the secret walls of the United States Government. I have archived here my collection of what I have found pertaining to various subjects such as: UFO´s, Top Secret Military Aviation, Biological Weapons, Nuclear Weapons, and many more! The one of a kind database you will find here are government documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. What makes this database so unique? The fact that the documents are scanned online, and are kept in image form (downloadable images). This site is the result of over 2 and one half years of research into the vast government archives, and online you can find my results. You will find my initial letter to the government agency, their response, and the documents themselves. Open your mind to the unknown. What you find here will make you think, and make the unbelievable become believable. Relax... enjoy... and welcome to the one place where the government "secrets" become KNOWN. Special thanks to the following for hosting: DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [18] America's Secret Establishment
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: America's Secret Establishment An introduction to The Order of Skull & Bones by ANTONY C. SUTTON Liberty House Press 2027 Iris Billings, Montana 59102 1986 - Highly recommended. There is more in this book than can be presented here. Many charts and reproductions of orginal source material. As always, Caveat Lector. In stock at: A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0273 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lloyd Miller, Research Director) Om K - Memorandum Number Nine: Conclusions And Recommendations A General conclusion is that The Order has been able to convert the educational system from one aimed at developing the individual child, to one aimed at conditioning the child to be a unit in an organic, i. e., Hegelian, society. When we look at philanthropic foundations in the next volume we shall see the way this has been implemented by private foundation funds. There is not sufficient evidence to argue whether the decline in educational standards is an accidental by-product of this "new educa-. tion" or a deliberate subsidiary policy. In any. event, the Reagan ad- ministration policy of merit pay will compound, not solve, the problem. Recommendations for reform have been forthcoming at intervals since the late 1950s when educational problems first surfaced. At the time of Sputnik there was a hue and cry about the backward nature of U.S. training in mathematics and science, which at the University level are not at all backward. Anyway the educational establishment recognized an opportunity and cried, "more. more money." They got it, and there was a massive expansion in the '60s. But the funds have been poured into social conditioning. Mathematics and sciences have taken back seat in the last 30 years. Then in 1981, James S. Coleman of the University of Chicago pro- duced a study of public schools for the U.S. Department of Education. In this study Coleman used the National Opinion Research Center to contact 58, 728 sophomores and Seniors in 1,016 public, parochial, and private schools across the United States. His findings were: * private and parochial schools provide an education closer to the common school ideal than do public schools, * private school students learned more than public school counterparts, * Coleman wrote it was paradoxical that "catholic schools func- tion much closer to the American ideal of the common school . . . than do public schools." * private schools provide "a safer, more disciplined and more ordered environment" than public schools, * "blacks and Hispanics perform better at private schools." The reason? Private schools are less under the influence of the Dewey educational philosophy. They still have to use accredited teachers, but these teachers - quite bluntly - have been able to sur- vive the teacher training conditioning. Yet the educational establishment does not see the writing on the wall. In Fall 1983 a report by John Goodlad, Dean of the School of Educa- tion at University of Southern California, will be published. John I. Goodlad wrote the Foreword to Schooling For A Global Age (McGraw Hill, 1979) which includes these comments: "Enlightened social engineering is required to face situations that demand global action now" (page xiii). "Parents and the general public must be reached . . . otherwise children and youth enrolled in Globally oriented programs may find themselves in conflict with values assumed in the home." And more. Another 345 pages of globalony follows. Nothing about the child as an individual. Nothing about the child as a repository of talents that need to be encouraged. Nothing about basic education: the 3 R's. Yet this Goodlad report is being pushed in The New York Times (July 19, 1983) as the most "comprehensive report" ever made on American schools. These are some Goodlad proposals: * education should start at 4 years old * schools should be smaller * head teachers with doctorates should have more pay. And this does nothing. of course. to stop what a former Commis- sioner of Education called "a rising tide of mediocrity." If the United States is to survive in the coming technologically inten- sive age, then certain recommendations follow. These are: * the function of the school is to develop individual talent. Social engineering as an objective has to be discarded. * A thorough grounding in the 3 R's is essential for a good education tion. In other words, "content" is all important. * It follows that Schools of Education should be abolished (this is under serious discussion at Duke University and has been pro- posed at University of Michigan and even Cal Berkeley). * Teacher credentials should be based on subject matter entirely, not educational theory. * All restrictions on private schools should be abolished. * Public schools should be returned to l
[CTRL] Fwd: [WebSiteDaily] The Melissa Virus Epidemic
More Viral doom. Teo1000 Subj:[WebSiteDaily] The Melissa Virus Epidemic Date: 99-03-28 12:26:16 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert W. Neill, Jr.) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECIAL REPORT The Melissa Virus >From WebSiteDaily == Warnings of Computer Virus Issued http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/technology/story.html?s=v/ap/1999 032 8/tc/computer_virus_3.html Experts at Carnegie Mellon University warn of new computer virus http://cnn.com/US/9903/27/AM-ComputerVirus.ap/ 'Melissa' virus infections escalate Sixty sites reported stricken by Saturday. Expert: Come Monday 'this is going to be a major problem.' http://www.excite.com/computers_and_internet/tech_news/zdnet/?article=/n ews/ 19990327/2233130.inp Epidemic virus infects corporate e-mail A number of Microsoft Corp. Outlook/Exchange customers -- including Microsoft itself, as well as Intel Corp. -- are being hit hard by a macro virus that is replicating infected pornography-related information throughout corporate email systems. http://www.excite.com/computers_and_internet/tech_news/zdnet/?article=/n ews/ 19990327/2233030.inp Melissa Virus Profile On McAfee Site http://vil.mcafee.com/vil/vm10120.asp Sendmail Patch For Melissa Virus http://www.sendmail.com/blockmelissa.html CERT Information - Melissa Virus http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-99-04-Melissa-Macro-Virus.html. Microsoft Patch http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-002.asp. = CA-99-04-Melissa-Macro-Virus Original issue date: Saturday March 27 1999 Last Revised: Saturday March 27, 1999 Systems Affected Machines with Microsoft Word 97 or Word 2000 Any mail handling system could experience performance problems or a denial of service as a result of the propagation of this macro virus. Overview At approximately 2:00 PM GMT-5 on Friday March 26 1999, we began receiving reports of a Microsoft Word 97 and Word 2000 macro virus which is propagating via email attachments. The number and variety of reports we have received indicate that this is a widespread attack affecting a variety of sites. Our analysis of this macro virus indicates that human action (in the form of a user opening an infected Word document) is required for this virus to propagate. It is possible that under some mailer configurations, a user might automatically open an infected document received in the form of an email attachment. This macro virus is not known to exploit any new vulnerabilities. While the primary transport mechanism of this virus is via email, any way of transferring files can also propagate the virus. Anti-virus software vendors have called this macro virus the Melissa macro or W97M_Melissa virus. I. Description The Melissa macro virus propagates in the form of an email message containing an infected Word document as an attachment. The transport message has most frequently been reported to contain the following Subject header: Subject: Important Message From Where is the full name of the user sending the message. The body of the message is a multipart MIME message containing two sections. The first section of the message (Content-Type: text/plain) contains the following text. Here is that document you asked for ... don't show anyone else ;-) The next section (Content-Type: application/msword) was initially reported to be a document called "list.doc." This document contains references to pornographic web sites. As this macro virus spreads we are likely to see documents with other names. In fact, under certain conditions the virus may generate attachments with documents created by the victim. When a user opens an infected .doc file with Microsoft Word97 or Word2000, the macro virus is immediately executed if macros are enabled. Upon execution, the virus first lowers the macro security settings to permit all macros to run when documents are opened in the future. Therefore, the user will not be notified when the virus is executed in the future. The macro then checks to see if the registry key: "HKEY_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\Office\Melissa?" has a value of "... by Kwyjibo." If that registry key does not exist or does not have a value of "... by Kwyjibo," the virus proceeds to propagate itself by sending an email message in the format described above to the first 50 entries in every MAPI address book readable by the user executing the macro. Keep in mind that if any of these email addresses are mailing lists, the message will be delivered to everyone on the mailing lists. In order to successfully propagate, the affected machine must have Microsoft Outlook installed; however, Outlook does not need to be the mailer used to read the message. Next, the macro virus sets the value of the registry key to "... by Kwyjibo." Setting this registry key causes the virus to only propagate once per session. If the registry key does not persi
Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Kieran wrote: how the hell do you define a socialist??!! socialist (so´she-lîst) noun Abbr. soc. 1. An advocate of socialism. 2. Often Socialist . A member of a political party or group that advocates socialism. socialism (so´she-lîz´em) noun 1. a. A social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community. b. The theory or practice of those who support such a social system. 2. The building of the material base for communism under the dictatorship of the proletariat in Marxist-Leninist theory. capitalism (kàp´î-tl-îz´em) noun An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market. The KEY is how one defines 'ownership' ... does one truly 'own' something in which he must receive permission to 'create' or 'distribute' -- I say emphatically, No. As such Capitalism requires a separation of the State and business in much the SAME capacity as Church-State separation. *My* definition of Statist (socialist, nazi-ist, fascist, communist) would be anything other than providing ALL individuals with a RIGHT to their own life. Regard$, --MJ The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism', they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. -- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Editors
-Caveat Lector- CTRL has added two editors, Linda and Goat are both still out a workin' and that just leaves Ted and I, plus Charles the Hammer, whose life is oh so busy. So please welcome [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alamaine Ratliff) and [EMAIL PROTECTED](Ric Carter). This will let Alamaine's posts come directly , without format problems and Ric can answer questions to his posts. CTRL will soon be three years old, and still in swaddling, but not to bad with no money and all volunteers. I thank one and all for your participation in our informational . . . journey, Om K DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Kosovo Debacle - No wonder Hillary went to Egypt for Vacation
ing to happen is hard to quarrel with. But they are getting more and more uptight about telling you what has happened." Initially, said NBC's Miklaszewski, "I don't fault them one bit for withholding specific target lists or bomb damage assessments." But if that stance continues for many days, he said, "there's a real credibility problem." Bacon said in an interview that "we are taking a very conservative approach. The reason for that is pure and simple: pilot safety. The less information we provide to our adversaries, the better. Information reverberates much more quickly around the world than it used to." Even with damage assessments, Bacon said, "we don't want to give away a sense of what we consider to be adequate or inadequate. That gives people clues as to whether we're likely to attack the same targets again." Tensions between the media and the military have flared periodically since the Gulf War. Smith, the retired general, said military officials feel "a mistrust and a distrust" toward journalists, some of whom they regard as "clueless." Even some high-ranking officials have not been privy to key information. "We'd love to tell our story," one Pentagon officer complained to the Wall Street Journal. The first cockpit footage of exploding bombs in Yugoslavia was released yesterday -- not at the Pentagon but by NATO officials in Brussels. "It's a simple political decision: We wanted to emphasize the extent to which this is a NATO operation," a senior State Department official said. The press was first "seduced" by a cockpit video of the 1986 airstrikes against Libya, Martin said, but later criticized such footage as overstating American success. He said Pentagon officials have grown concerned "about us coming back and saying: 'You exaggerated.' What they now try to do is minimize bomb damage assessment. They're sitting on it." © Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company http://news.stocksmartpro.com/ss-news/CX1605526.html Sunday March 28, 11:25 AM (EST) NATO on Brink of Civilian Disaster, Spokesman BRUSSELS (March 28) XINHUA - A spokesman of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) said here Sunday that the allied forces was on the brink of a major humanitarian disaster in Kosovo. "On the political front, we are very concerned about the security and stability of the neighboring countries to Yugoslavia, particularly partner countries of this alliance," Jamie Shea, the spokesman, told a news briefing at the NATO headquarters in Brussels. He said NATO chief Javier Solana had long discussions with prime minister of former Yugoslav republic Macedonia, and he also talked yesterday evening with the Albanian prime minister. "With both prime ministers, he discussed deteriorating humanitarian situation in and around Kosovo," he said. Shea said this was the most significant development of the past few days. "Whether we like it or not, we have to recognize that we are on the brink of a major humanitarian disaster in Kosovo, which had not been seen in Europe since the closing stages of World War Two." He also said the estimated number of people who are now displaced from their homes in Kosovo has outnumbered half million mark, which is well in access of 25 percent of total population of Kosovo. "That number is increasing at a rapid pace." The spokesman also noted that just over the last few days, 50,000 people were trying to seek shelters wherever they can while about 20,000 people fleeing form fighting in the northern and central areas of Kosovo trying to get into Albania. The Albanian government had informed the NATO that in last few hours alone, it had accepted between eight to ten thousand of these refugees, many of them were still on the border, the spokesman told reporters, adding that this is a new situation created on the ground. Enditem 28/03/99 16:25 GMT = http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/wl/story.html?s=v/nm/19990328/wl/iraq_rus sia_report_1.html Sunday March 28 3:36 PM ET New Yorker Magazine Says Iraq Paid Off Primakov NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New Yorker magazine reported Sunday that British and U.S. intelligence officials believe Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov was paid off by Iraq to obtain strategic materials from Moscow to build up its nuclear weapons stockpile. Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh quoted high-level American intelligence sources as saying Primakov received $800,000 in a wire transfer in November 1997. The New Yorker said a spokesman at the Russian embassy in Washington denied all charges of corruption against Primakov. U.S. National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, asked about the report during an appearance on ABC's ``This Week,'' said that while he h
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- At 22:21 27/03/99 -0800, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Find out where you stand politically at: > >http://www.self-gov.org/index.html all i can say is that the only thing that surprised me about this quiz was it's accuracy. considering the fact that it's only got four categories, it was pretty spot on in calling me a left-liberal. i think of myself, but then it said that left-authoritarians were socialists. well, seems you learn something every day. maybe this is just the american spin on that word, based on the USSR, which called itself a communist country. it seems many words which once meant something good and honourable are often twisted when despots use them to promote themselves. but i digress. seems that even in this so-called 'global village' we all live in (HA!, more like a global factory, with the third world as the underpaid workers and us as the whip-crackers. sorry about that, i can't seem to help myself sometimes, i'll get off my soapbox now.), terms can come to mean very different things on different sides of the ocean, despite the lack of a language barrier. i know i shouldn't, but i can't help but take it as a personal insult when i read Clinton being described as a socialist or a communist or whatever. i know that your definition is entirely different from mine, but for some reason it still seems to hurt. >This will surprise a lot of you! >The Word Of The Lord: >Proverbs 29:1 >He who is often reproved, yet stiffens his neck will suddenly be broken >beyond healing. very true, i really should read that book sometime, seems that there's a lot to learn from it, even for an atheist. >"My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I'll >fire anyone who > has lied to the American people >or the United States Congress." - Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 >presidential debate > >So does this mean he's going to fire Clinton? we can but hope. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hitler: A Pcyhological Profile.¾ OSS Study
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osstitle.htm http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osstitle.htm">Hitler: A Pcyhological Profile.æ OSS Study - This document reproduced with the permission of The Nizkor Project Source page: http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/oss-papers/text/pro file-index.html A Psychologial Profile of Adolph Hitler His Life and Legend Walter C. Langer Office of Strategic Services Washington, D.C. With the collaboration of- Prof. Henry A. Murr, Harvard Psychological Clinic Dr. Ernst Kris, New School for Social Research . Dr. Bertram D. Lawin, New York Psychoanalytic Institute Background to the Study. Dr S D Stein Preface Hitler - As he believes himself to be Hitler - As the German people know him Hitler - As his associates know him Hitler - As he knows himself Psychological Analysis and Reconstruction Hitler's Probable Behavior in the Future Appendix - Complete Bibliography Document compiled by Dr S D Stein Last update12/10/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ©S D Stein Genocide Index Page ESS Home Page - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- i have a question for the list, especially those who have been calling clinton a socialist. how the hell do you define a socialist??!! definitely not the same way i do. i think of myself as a socialist, but i've always considered the american government to be a prevailingly very capitalist one. another thing, real socialists (by the definition of modern socialist organisations), do not consider stalin to have been a socialist. socialism in my mind is a government by the people, for the people and with the people. very idealistic i know, so don't any of you cynics on this list start patronising me please. i just feel that your definition of a socialist needs to be defined, because then maybe i'd be able to figure out what the hell you're talking about when you call clinton a socialist. if you want to read the reality of the socialist movement, you can do so here: http://www.clubi.ie/dojo/cwi/index this is the webpage of an international socialist organization. they have many articles on world affairs and probably a link to the communist manifesto in there somewhere. you might find that your definition of a socialist clashes with their definition of a socialist. -peace -andrew DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: First Single Recorded Over The Internet
--- http://www.music365.co.uk/autocontent/news_001722.htm SINEAD O'CONNOR HEADS INTERNET SINGLE LINE-UP: SINEAD OCONNOR, THOMAS DOLBY and COLDCUT were among the eleven artists to record the first ever single over the internet. The cover version of BOB MARLEYs Them Belly Full (But We Hungry) was recorded in an hour last night, by artists in studios all over the world. The money raised from the single is to go to the childrens charity War Child, which brings humanitarian aid to war zones the world over. OConnor made her contribution from a studio at the BBC Television Centre in White City, West London. Thomas Dolby played keyboards in San Francisco and Coldcut (aka Matt Black and Jonathan More) mixed and produced from another BBC studio in Northwest London. Elsewhere, vocalist LUCKY DUBE was in Johannesburg, drummer MIKE WILCOX was in Australia, rhythm guitarist JAY GRIGGS was in New Orleans and RODNEY ORPHEUS played synth in Hamburg. The single, recorded using the latest on-line jamming software called Rocket Network, was the subject of a one hour Tomorrows World special screened on the BBC last night. War Child was formed in February 1993 to help the innocent victims of war. Since then fund-raising projects have included 1995s Number one album Help which raised money for Bosnia and featured contributions from PAUL MCCARTNEY, PAUL WELLER, NOEL GALLAGHER and RADIOHEAD. Last year, PAVAROTTI and a host of stars like CELINE DION and THE SPICE GIRLS performed at a concert in Modena to raise money for Liberia. OConnor meanwhile was also in the news yesterday after she had given up the custody of daughter Roisin. The two year old was handed over to her father John Waters, a writer for The Irish Times.
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 8:28:22 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt not murder". Am I wrong about this? >> And is is! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reporter from Press Conference on Drudge NOW !
-Caveat Lector- For anyone who missed it . My listings < C-Band Pacific >show it will be on again at 11:00 pm tonight . --- Divinewill wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > The reporter who was on the press conference from the White > House > the other day who kept receiving the answer , " I don't have > time > for that " to all his questions is on the Drudge report on Fox > News right now . > > Divine ~ > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reporter from Press Conference on Drudge NOW !
-Caveat Lector- The reporter who was on the press conference from the White House the other day who kept receiving the answer , " I don't have time for that " to all his questions is on the Drudge report on Fox News right now . Divine ~ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: > > God is all good, all love, but He is the judge at death time! He didn't > give Ten Commandments for nothing! He said thou shalt not kill, its as simple > as that! > > God Bless > Bill I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt not murder". Am I wrong about this? Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Hi Liz , No Problem :-) , I get rather passionate in my response to things sometimes too and I agree with you completely in regard to the propaganda machine , lately I can barely keep from screaming every time one of the talking heads comes on a spouts out their rhetoric and just plain lies in regard to the Kosovo crisis . Divine ~ --- Never believe anything you hear in the media until you have verified it with various sources on the web --- Liz Schumacher wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > sorry if i jumped on u divine-- didnt mean to. im just so p-oed > at the new > media darlings, who are SUCH a danger, like our dear dr jack > liz > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Hi Amelia , Nice to meet you :-) . I have been on this list for about a year now but I was predominately a " lurker " until recently so I am really a newbie here too as noone really knows me . Sounds like you found yourself in the right place at the right time in regards to homesteading and self sufficient living . Good for you , I am myself doing the best I can with what I have to work with . Started learning to garden last year and hopefully will become adequately able should the need arrive . Have stocked up on the necessaties though just in case as it is rather limiting where I live , out in the desert , as nothing grows here except sagebrush , you have to buy dirt . On the Kevorikian thing , I don't want to get to deep in the fray as I do not believe in doctors of any kind for religious and intellectual reasons and I don't want to argue about it . Divine ~ Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right. -- Gandhi --- Amelia Kay Edgeman wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Hi, I'm Amelia and I am new & supposed to introduce myself. > I've been > watching mostl for a few days. Hope to have time to read > archives but > first must finish the excessive, oppressive paperwork to take > to my > accountant to file my illegal income taxes. I am not very > computer-literate but have great interest and hope to learn > somethings > and hopfully contribute a bit. I am early middleaged, mother > of two > college-age skeptics. I am homesteading and ove it. I > stumbled onto > the Y2K poblem, at least the magnitude of it a I was > attempting/learning to become as totally self-reliant as > possible. > Seems I was guided in the right direction before I knew what I > was > doing--moved to mini-farm about 14 mos. ago. Am preparing for > Y2K only > in ways I will use any way if left to my own wishes. > > To the subject at hand, let me say that I must agree that this > is not > the way to deal with this problem. I stated earlier that pain > in this > country is so under-medicated and undertreated as to be a > scandal. Many > would not want to die if they were not in agony. Also, this is > illegal > and makes all parties commit crimes. Apart from that, I > fee/think, it > cheapens human life the same way abortions do. We can "put > down" people > the way we do animals. > We can withhold herioc life-support and give them enough > medication. > Drs. are audited on the percentage of Rx they write for > controlled > substances versus non-controlled (morphine vs. antibiotic; > amphetamine > vs. antihistamine as examples) and they are paraniod abog > accused of > causing someone to become a drug addict. Many people with > adequate meds > woun't want to die. They want to escape the hell in which they > are > forced to live. Dr. Jack does get a certain gleam i his eye > about > this. > > Also to the one who calls himself "Dr." whatever happened to > "First, do > no harm."? Even the most liberal translation of helping take > away life > from someone with/without their permission still equals harm in > the most > extreme. > > I babble on. You guys sound very bright, sharp and most > importantly, > informed. I will enjoy reading your postings greatly and am > impressed > that each of you have done your research. That is a must for > me. I > don't have time to waste on doing research thathas already been > done. I > shall benefit from yours if you wil allow me. > Regards, > Amelia > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EM
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- See previous repy in Re:Kevorkian. with my intro. Guess I left out of the intro I was married to a physician for 23 yrs & worked in his office, saw his & other hospital patients, etc. My combined experience in three (3) states is that there is terrible undermedication of those in pain, terminal and otherwise. Fix that and it might put people like Dr. Jack out of business. Again, I ask whatever happenedto "First, do no harm." Amelia P.S. Mayve in some cases there is "morphine to spare. It would have to be prescibed by the dr. and then every drop acounted for. Hospitals use unit doese of everything like that. Nurses never have any to "play around" with. Regulations have tightened to the point where red tape discourages using anything controlled except in the most dire circumstances. That has been my experience and that of most eople I have discussed this sort of thing with. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- hello amelia, if you are really interested in Y2k items,and if you by any chance happen to be interested in fortean phenomenon, i belong to an artbell info list, that has some very nice, and very informative folks. liz ps sorry if i camr on too strong about dr jack, im just so sick of him and his ilk liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- -- On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:07:35 Liz Schumacher wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >look DIVINE, i fail to see how you could take my response as "hateful" i dont >know where u are coming from. All I know is JACK KEVORKIAN is a serial killer, >in my book. because--he LOVES what he does-if u cant see that, im sorry. in no >way was i trying to be "hateful"--i just DONT LIKE serial killers >liz > He doesn't "LOVE" what he does he feels that what he does is to the benefit of those in pain.. He feels like it's his duty and that makes him feel fulfilled somewhat but he does not "LOVE" it. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Hi, I'm Amelia and I am new & supposed to introduce myself. I've been watching mostl for a few days. Hope to have time to read archives but first must finish the excessive, oppressive paperwork to take to my accountant to file my illegal income taxes. I am not very computer-literate but have great interest and hope to learn somethings and hopfully contribute a bit. I am early middleaged, mother of two college-age skeptics. I am homesteading and ove it. I stumbled onto the Y2K poblem, at least the magnitude of it a I was attempting/learning to become as totally self-reliant as possible. Seems I was guided in the right direction before I knew what I was doing--moved to mini-farm about 14 mos. ago. Am preparing for Y2K only in ways I will use any way if left to my own wishes. To the subject at hand, let me say that I must agree that this is not the way to deal with this problem. I stated earlier that pain in this country is so under-medicated and undertreated as to be a scandal. Many would not want to die if they were not in agony. Also, this is illegal and makes all parties commit crimes. Apart from that, I fee/think, it cheapens human life the same way abortions do. We can "put down" people the way we do animals. We can withhold herioc life-support and give them enough medication. Drs. are audited on the percentage of Rx they write for controlled substances versus non-controlled (morphine vs. antibiotic; amphetamine vs. antihistamine as examples) and they are paraniod abog accused of causing someone to become a drug addict. Many people with adequate meds woun't want to die. They want to escape the hell in which they are forced to live. Dr. Jack does get a certain gleam i his eye about this. Also to the one who calls himself "Dr." whatever happened to "First, do no harm."? Even the most liberal translation of helping take away life from someone with/without their permission still equals harm in the most extreme. I babble on. You guys sound very bright, sharp and most importantly, informed. I will enjoy reading your postings greatly and am impressed that each of you have done your research. That is a must for me. I don't have time to waste on doing research thathas already been done. I shall benefit from yours if you wil allow me. Regards, Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- S. Lucas wrote: The questions are phrased in absolutes. There are no absolutes. MJ: Are you 'absolutely' a female? The quiz asked yes, no or maybe ... WHERE is the 'absolute' in such responses? Regard$, --MJ The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see ... -- Dominique Francon DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- sorry if i jumped on u divine-- didnt mean to. im just so p-oed at the new media darlings, who are SUCH a danger, like our dear dr jack liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Liz , I wasn't referring that you're post in particular was anything , it just was the one that was currently up when I jumped in . I merely was trying to say that you have the right to feel the way you do , as do the people who disagree with you and I don't understand why it of such importance to prove who is right and wrong when the parties involved , while all learned on the points of argument simply do not agree . Divine ~ You don't have to conform to the values of your peers. It gets pretty boring sitting home every night though... --- Liz Schumacher wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > look DIVINE, i fail to see how you could take my response as > "hateful" i dont > know where u are coming from. All I know is JACK KEVORKIAN is a > serial killer, > in my book. because--he LOVES what he does-if u cant see that, > im sorry. in no > way was i trying to be "hateful"--i just DONT LIKE serial > killers > liz > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- look DIVINE, i fail to see how you could take my response as "hateful" i dont know where u are coming from. All I know is JACK KEVORKIAN is a serial killer, in my book. because--he LOVES what he does-if u cant see that, im sorry. in no way was i trying to be "hateful"--i just DONT LIKE serial killers liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- If all of you involved in this rather heated debate would kindly onlige me to interject . Is it not one of the great rights of the US of A , that we are all in common trying desperately to retain , the right of religious freedom and the right to free speech , even when based upon our religious/morale beliefs ? And in essence the right to disagree in a way devoid of hatefulness and anger? Divine ~ --- Money makes the world go around. Love just barely keeps it from blowing up --- Liz Schumacher wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > FINE,"Dr" erebus, have YOU researched dr jack??? did YOU > know he was NEVER > a doctor who took care of people, but only a doctor who looked > at cadavers?? > and only part time at that? > Did he bring kids into the world--EVER??? NO > DID he take care of young married couples_NO > Was he EVER a General Practitioner-NO > Was he ever a specialist?? maybe in oncology? gynocology?? NO > He LOOKED AT DEAD BODIES ON A SLAB--for his WHOLE medical > career!!!-which by the way --was--on and off.--are > people begging dr > jack to kill them??YES!! They can beg YOU, they can beg ME > ,too, they can > beg your uncle arthur's blind CAT-- still dont make it right, > "DR" erebus, > baby-- look-- folks have a right to die, but not this way , > man, NOT under > the hormones of a man who is in LOVE with what he does. THINK > ABOUT IT > liz > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [telesis-l] Secret Society
8008 The Secret Society Among Lawmen by Anne-Marie O'Connor and Tina Daunt (Los Angeles Times, March 24, 1999) He is still proud of his tattoo. The somber image of Death's hooded skull and scythe tattooed onto the inside of the deputy's left ankle in 1989 initiated him into a select fraternity called the Grim Reapers. Then a street cop at the Lennox station, this deputy has risen to a key position in the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department--along with other members of his "club." The groups--with macho monikers like the Pirates, Vikings, Rattlesnakes and Cavemen--have long been a subculture in the country's largest Sheriff's Department and, in some cases, an inside track to acceptance in the ranks. Senior officers say they began with the creation of the Little Devils at the East Los Angeles station in 1971. Membership swelled in the 1980s at overwhelmingly white sheriff's stations that were islands in black and Latino immigrant communities. A federal judge hearing class-action litigation against the department described the most well-known of the groups, the Lynwood Vikings, as a "neo-Nazi, white supremacist gang" and found that deputies had engaged in racially motivated hostility. The county paid $9 million in fines and training costs to settle the lawsuits in 1996. But today, groups like the Grim Reapers are enjoying renewed popularity among young deputies, who say the groups are fraternities that bond on morale-building values, not race. A new group--the Regulators--has formed at Century station, and even suburban deputies are thinking about getting tattoos. Some senior officers say the groups provide emotional support for deputies who contend with a grueling regimen of violent crime and an 11-to-7 overnight schedule that strains family life. The groups have their detractors. One deputy characterized the Lennox Reapers as "cowboys," and another complained that the Regulators were "acting just like Vikings." Sheriff Lee Baca has long been a critic of the groups, though he believes an outright ban would be unconstitutional. He urges deputies to stay away from the organizations, saying they encourage unprofessional behavior. Critics of the department go even further. They charge that the stations with the department's most troubled records--meaning the most frequent excessive-force lawsuits and discrimination complaints--are home to the most active deputy groups. And the groups are viewed with mistrust by many in the inner-city communities. "They are generally perceived as rogue cops who have often been accused of acting in very inappropriate ways in the street," said Joe Hicks, executive director of the city's human relations commission. "It doesn't seem to be good for morale or community relations." -Uncovering Evidence- Some of the lawyers now suing the Sheriff's Department on behalf of clients who say they were beaten, shot or harassed have demanded that deputies accused of misconduct roll down their socks and reveal if they have one of the distinguishing tattoos. In one case pending in federal court, attorneys want two deputies who allegedly shot a man to death to show whether their ankles bear the Vikings insignia. Kevin Reed, an attorney with the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People's Legal Defense Fund, who worked on the class-action suit involving the Vikings, thinks the deputy groups encourage a pattern of excessive force. "There is a bond, not just of being a fellow deputy, but being a Viking, that gives you the comfort that no one is going to write the report that will hang you out to dry," Reed said. One Viking tattoo displayed in court bore the number "998"--the code for "officer-involved shooting"--Reed said, giving the impression that such shootings were celebrated as a rite of passage. Former Undersheriff Jerry Harper, who was Baca's boss until he retired after the November sheriff's race, said the 998 tattoos reflect a camaraderie not unlike that of soldiers who have experienced combat for the first time. "It's a mark of pride. They've been in a deputy-involved shooting and they've survived it," he said. "Obviously, it's a lot more serious than getting a Boy Scout patch." But David Lynn, a private investigator who testified on the deputy groups to the U.S. Civil Rights Commission--which is to address the issue in a report due in April--has called for the names of tattooed deputies to be cross-referenced with excessive force allegations. For all his objections, Baca believes such a registry might actually absolve the groups of the most serious suspicions. He thinks many deputies acquired the tattoos for reasons no deeper than peer pressure and heavy drinking. "Many of them regretted it the day after, when they got a little sober," said Baca, "especially when their wife saw the thing and was very upset." He said the deputies were "caring, hard-working, not prejudiced. And they literally destroyed their lives, many of them, with this nonsense of
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- amelia, it goes on every day. and its done under drs orders, and only to the termial in deep pain liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- FINE,"Dr" erebus, have YOU researched dr jack??? did YOU know he was NEVER a doctor who took care of people, but only a doctor who looked at cadavers?? and only part time at that? Did he bring kids into the world--EVER??? NO DID he take care of young married couples_NO Was he EVER a General Practitioner-NO Was he ever a specialist?? maybe in oncology? gynocology?? NO He LOOKED AT DEAD BODIES ON A SLAB--for his WHOLE medical career!!!-which by the way --was--on and off.--are people begging dr jack to kill them??YES!! They can beg YOU, they can beg ME ,too, they can beg your uncle arthur's blind CAT-- still dont make it right, "DR" erebus, baby-- look-- folks have a right to die, but not this way , man, NOT under the hormones of a man who is in LOVE with what he does. THINK ABOUT IT liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IRS special agent challenges system
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990326_xex_irs_special_.shtml -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton ><> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Title: IRS special agent challenges system | | | | FRIDAY MARCH 261999 THE POWER TO DESTROY IRS special agent challenges system Agency illegitimate, tax law non-existent, he says By Sarah Foster © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Joe Banister, on the job with IRS "The Internal Revenue Service is everything the so-called tax protesters said it was; non-responsive, unable to withstand scrutiny, tyrannical, and oblivious to the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution." That's how Joseph Banister -- a certified public accountant who, until last month, was an investigator and gunslinger for the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS -- now regards his former employer. His conclusion is based in part on a personal two-year investigation into the agency's history and purpose -- an investigation he began somewhat reluctantly, never expecting he'd reach the conclusion he did. His research led him to question its very legality and constitutionality. Deeply disturbed by his discoveries, he summarized these in a report which, in February, he sent to his supervisors, and asked them to respond to three allegations: That the filing of federal income tax returns is voluntary and the filing of federal income tax returns is not required; That the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was never ratified; That income taxes are not used to pay for daily government operations, but to pay the interest on the national debt. "All the time I was doing my research, I looked for snags -- looked for things that would prove that everything I was reading and finding out was wrong," Banister told WorldNetDaily. "I had taken this job thinking I'd be wearing the white hat, and I slowly found out I was not wearing the white hat. So something had to change." The change came quickly last month, when the IRS accepted Banister's offer of resignation rather than respond to the questions raised. He is believed to be the first IRS-CID special agent who -- having determined to his satisfaction that certain allegations about the income tax were true -- confronted the hierarchy at the IRS about his findings. He has paid dearly for this. "It's the end of my dream of a career in law enforcement," he said, recalling in a telephone interview the series of events that propelled him from the ranks of armed federal agents to the camp of those reviled by the government as tax protesters. The action also cost him his $80,000 a year job. Banister, 36, had dreamed that dream for a long time. In 1986, he graduated with a degree in business administration from San Jose State University in the San Francisco Bay area, and for the next three years worked for KPMG Peat Marwick as a senior tax specialist and staff auditor. A gentle, soft-spoken man -- who chooses his words carefully -- he would seem ideally suited to a job dealing with numbers and accounting. Just the kind of job he had, but it wasn't enough. "I wanted to get into law enforcement, but had recently (in 1990) gotten my certified public accountant certificate," he explained. "I wondered if there wasn't some way a CPA could wear a uniform, gun and a badge." A skilled marksman -- Banister has been a member of the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America since 1991 and 1992, respectively -- he began exploring the federal law enforcement agencies for employment opportunities. In 1991 he applied for a position at both the FBI and IRS-CID, "in case the FBI job didn't work out." Due to a hiring freeze, the FBI kept him at "in a holding pattern" for two years. So when in August 1993, the IRS-CID phoned and asked if he were still interested in working for them, Banister said yes. Although his heart was set on the FBI, working for the IRS as a special agent had definite advantages. He could work in his hometown of San Jose, and not have to move around the country -- as working for the FBI might have required. This was something his wife and sons greatly appreciated. "We'll treat you just as we do every taxpayer -- no special favors," he was promised. And the IRS was as good as its word. As part of his background check, Banist
Re: [CTRL] COULD LEWIS CARROLL HAVE BEEN JACK THE RIPPER?
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Colleen Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The ripper was playing a role - all timed to a curious bible calendar, >and every high degree Mason in the United Kingdom, knew what he was, but >not who he was in my guess The Masonic connection was covered up at the time...most of it is only coming to light in recent years... >Ezekial 23vs. 25 "and the shall take away thy nose and thine >ears, and thy remnant shall vall by the sword You didn't mention it, but one of the victims DID have her nose and ears cut off...he also cut the kidneys out of a victim, sending one to Scotland Yard in the mail with a taunting note, stating how he'd eaten the other one... June *===* Daffodils, That come before the swallow dares, and take The winds of March with beauty. -- Shakespeare, The Winter's Tale IV.iii *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- thanks bill--jeese i hate kevorkian and what he stands for--yet, i totally agree that a person who wants to die, and is suffering needless pain should be able to--but not from a freak like kevorkian--lets get this matter straightened out-once and for all-so we dont need the media freaks like dr k in the future liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] World Order: Old versus New!
-Caveat Lector- Folks, Don't you understand that our Freedom is being sacrificed on the Altar being created by the draft-dodging, rapist Anti-Christ?? Maybe your too busy worshipping the "golden calf" instead of abiding by the God's Ten Commandments! It's not too late to repent your Sins which the Establishment (Socialist) has been so insidiously successful in routing your path to an unrighteous lifestyle. God bless you all! and always remember our Nation is unique in the World; the foundation of which was inspired by Judeo-Christian principles. For Christ's Sake, let's not support the Rapist, but support our Military who have been ordered to perform a dastardly act. (We should not destroy the Village, to save it!) The "old world order" is one based on independent nation-states. The "new world order" involves the elimination of the sovereignty and independence of nation-states and some form of world government. This means the end of the United States of America, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights as we now know them. Most of the new world order proposals involve the conversion of the United Nations and its agencies to a world government, complete with a world army, a world parliament, a World Court, global taxation, and numerous other agencies to control every aspect of human life (education, nutrition, health care, population, immigration, communications, transportation, commerce, agriculture, finance, the environment, etc.). The various notions of the "new world order" differ as to details and scale, but agree on the basic principle and substance. http://home.earthlink.net/~netquest/world.html This one world Government will produce a leader for the world. The whole world will be forced to worship this Leader. This leader will be the Anti Christ. "Individuality is the aim of political liberty. By leaving to the citizens as much freedom of action and of being as comports with order and the rights of others, the institutions render him truly a freeman. He is left to pursue his means of happiness in his own manner." - James Fenimore Cooper Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Warning Issued For Fast-Spreading Computer Virus
-Caveat Lector- I have copied and pasted the addresses from my address book onto a note pad document from which to copy them when needed , and deleted all entries from my address book . I think , if I understand how this virus works correctly , will keep from inadvertantly spreading this ( hard to keep track of what goes through my mail as I get app. 200 messages a day from 8-9 lists ) Divine~ --- I am numbered by the government therefore I am --- Steve Wingate wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Sunday March 28 12:28 PM ET > > Warning Issued For Fast-Spreading Computer Virus > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - A new fast-spreading computer virus could > spread > havoc Monday after already forcing several large U.S. > corporations > to shut down their e-mail systems, the New York Times reported > Sunday. > > The virus, which is named Melissa and is spread by e-mail, may > have > infected tens of thousands of home and business computers > Friday, the > Times reported quoting network security companies. > > The virus replicates itself by going into the address book of > the computer's > user and e-mailing itself to 50 addresses -- eventually > overloading > network systems to the point where they must be shut down. It > does not > appear to harm or disable the computers, the experts told the > Times. > > E-mail infected with the virus has a topic line which begins > ``important > message from'' followed by the name of the person whose > computer > address book inadvertently provided the recipient's e-mail > address. > > That is followed by the seemingly innocuous message: ``Here is > that > document you asked for ... don't show it to anyone else''. A > massive 40K > document called list.doc is attached, the paper said. > > While opening the e-mail is harmless, opening the attachment > unleashes > the virus. It seeks out 50 addresses in the recipient's address > book, > sends itself off, and the whole process begins again. > > The two e-mail programs most likely to be affected were > Microsoft Outlook > and its slimmed down cousin, Microsoft Outlook Express, the > newspaper said. > > Eric Allman, a co-founder of Sendmail, told the Times that he > was > concerned that the problem would worsen Monday morning when > employees > find the messages in their e-mail in-boxes. > > ``This will get into a lot of mail boxes and lay dormant,'' he > said. ``When > employees come in at 8 a.m. and read these messages, it will > cause > an explosive growth of the virus.'' > > Allman described the virus as ``not the worst I'd seen, but > it's pretty bad.'' > > The virus brought the e-mail system to a halt Friday at the GCI > Group, a > public relations firm with offices nationwide. > > Leigh Anne Varney said she got more than 500 messages over the > course > of the day. ``I've never had this happen before.'' > > Steve Wingate > > California Director > SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL > > Today's MP3: Xaz: "Boiling Lake" > http://www.mp3.com/artists/8/xaz.html > > ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES > http://www.anomalous-images.com > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. > Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are > sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, > misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and > minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being > said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always > suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust > denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send > email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the s
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- I have been in medical community for several yrs., now retired from that . I don't think nurses can get their hands on a drop or morphine to increase anything. It is so regulated, signed and coutersigned and so much trouble that many go without adequate pain medicaton and suffer the literal pains of death with little more than an aspirin. It is sometimes horrible to see or know about. Under-medicating for pain is an under-reported national scandal. Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- --- "Hilary A. Thomas" wrote about the World's smallest political quiz. The questions are phrased in absolutes. There are no absolutes. These are loaded questions. They could be designed to obtain a desired outcome by the framers of the questions. --Sharon Lucas _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE END DRAWETH NIGH ...
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[CTRL] Melissa' macro worms around Web:
-Caveat Lector- Melissa' macro worms around Web: Virus alert from MSNBC. http://www.msnbc.com/msn/253803.asp ME The Gateway to Intelligent Infinity http://members.tripod.com/~Gateway2Infinity/index.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Copy of 1992 Affidavit by Lt. Col. Holmes concerning Bill Clinton
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pat Owens Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 11:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP: Copy of 1992 Affidavit by Lt. Col. Holmes concerning Bill Clinton and the Draft Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here is Col. Holmes 1992 reply to Bill Clintons whining to get out of military duty. This man warned us, and no one listened! Copy of the 1992 Affidavit by Lt. Col. Holmes concerning Bill Clinton and the Draft Lt. Col. Holmes is a highly decorated officer of the United States Army. He is a survivor of the Bataan Death March and 3-1/2 years as a POW of the Japanese. He served 32 years in the army before retiring with 100% disability. His decorations include the Silver Star, 2 Brone Stars, 2 Legions of Merit, the Army Commendation Medal and many others. During the Vietnam War, he personally inducted both of his own sons into the service--one for 3 years as a regular army enlisted man, and the other as a commissioned officer (after he had completed ROTC training). Affidavit There have been many unanswered questions as to the circumstances surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with the ROTC department at the University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for discussing the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor physical health (a consequence of participation in the Bataan Death March and the subsequent 3-1/2 years interment in Japanese POW camps) has precluded me from getting into what I felt was unnecessary involvement. However, present polls show that there is imminent danger to our country of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were many others (who) avoided serving their country in the Vietnam War, they are not aspiring to be president of the United States. The tremendous implications of the possibility of his becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United states Armed Forces compels me now to comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This account would not have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely honest with the American public concerning this matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening (Sept. 5) after being asked another particular about his dodging the draft, "Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more comments to make." Since I may be the only person living who can give a firsthand account of what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually happened and make it a matter of record. Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to discuss his desire to enroll in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. We engaged in an extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during this long conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his involvement, participation and actually organizing protests against the United States involvement in South East Asia. He was shrewed (sic) enough to realize that had I been aware of his activities, he would not have been accepted into the ROTC program as a potential officer in the United States Army. The next day I began to receive telephone calls regarding Bill Clinton's draft status. I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator Fullbright's (sic) office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message conveyed by the draft board to me was that Senator Fullbright's (sic) office was putting pressure on them and that they needed my help. I then made the necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton into the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. I was not "saving" him from serving his country, as he erroneously thanked me for in his letter from England (dated Dec. 3, 1969). I was making it possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an officer. In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with his agreement to join the Army ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or to attend the University of Arkansas Law School. I had explained to him the necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification. The Dec. 3 letter written to me by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive officer, was pl
[CTRL] Warning Issued For Fast-Spreading Computer Virus
-Caveat Lector- Sunday March 28 12:28 PM ET Warning Issued For Fast-Spreading Computer Virus NEW YORK (Reuters) - A new fast-spreading computer virus could spread havoc Monday after already forcing several large U.S. corporations to shut down their e-mail systems, the New York Times reported Sunday. The virus, which is named Melissa and is spread by e-mail, may have infected tens of thousands of home and business computers Friday, the Times reported quoting network security companies. The virus replicates itself by going into the address book of the computer's user and e-mailing itself to 50 addresses -- eventually overloading network systems to the point where they must be shut down. It does not appear to harm or disable the computers, the experts told the Times. E-mail infected with the virus has a topic line which begins ``important message from'' followed by the name of the person whose computer address book inadvertently provided the recipient's e-mail address. That is followed by the seemingly innocuous message: ``Here is that document you asked for ... don't show it to anyone else''. A massive 40K document called list.doc is attached, the paper said. While opening the e-mail is harmless, opening the attachment unleashes the virus. It seeks out 50 addresses in the recipient's address book, sends itself off, and the whole process begins again. The two e-mail programs most likely to be affected were Microsoft Outlook and its slimmed down cousin, Microsoft Outlook Express, the newspaper said. Eric Allman, a co-founder of Sendmail, told the Times that he was concerned that the problem would worsen Monday morning when employees find the messages in their e-mail in-boxes. ``This will get into a lot of mail boxes and lay dormant,'' he said. ``When employees come in at 8 a.m. and read these messages, it will cause an explosive growth of the virus.'' Allman described the virus as ``not the worst I'd seen, but it's pretty bad.'' The virus brought the e-mail system to a halt Friday at the GCI Group, a public relations firm with offices nationwide. Leigh Anne Varney said she got more than 500 messages over the course of the day. ``I've never had this happen before.'' Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's MP3: Xaz: "Boiling Lake" http://www.mp3.com/artists/8/xaz.html ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] March 28 column -- marijuana authors
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date forwarded: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:58:11 -0700 Date sent: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:57:59 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vin Suprynowicz) Subject:March 28 column -- marijuana authors Forwarded by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED MARCH 28, 1999 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Condemning dissident authors to death A well-meaning soul recently asked me, "Vin, why do you have to focus on the loss a few minor rights? This is still the freest nation on earth. Look at your own writings. In what other country would you be allowed to write these things with no fear of repercussions?" I imagine Peter McWilliams may have briefly shared that thought in 1993 when Prelude Press brought out his 800-page opus, "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in a Free Society." Ditto Steve Kubby when Loompanics of Port Townsend, Washington published his "The Politics of Consciousness" in 1995. Both authors are survivors (so far) of often-fatal diseases, who attribute their survival to the therapeutic use of marijuana. The Associated Press reported on March 20: "Steve Kubby ... has a Feb. 4 letter from Dr. Vincent DeQuattro, a professor of medicine at the University of Southern California, stating that Kubby still has a malignancy, for which the marijuana 'in some amazing fashion ... has not only controlled the symptoms ... but in my view has arrested the growth.' " Mr. Kubby attracted further official attention to his anti-Drug-War beliefs when he ran for governor of California on the Libertarian Party ticket last year. Both writers were proved prescient when California voters decided in 1996 to legalize the many medical uses of marijuana by a whopping 70-to-30 margin. And that should have been the end of that. Except that the kind of morally atrophied weasels who run our current War on Drugs have made a big mistake since the recent legalization votes in California, Nevada and Arizona. They have allowed two of the most cynical lies of modern politics -- that the government only enforces the will of the majority, and that if you want the law changed all you have to do is convince a majority to side with you at the polls -- to be revealed as just that: two of the biggest steaming piles of diarrheal mendacity that ever brought tears to the eyes and bile to the throats of a free people. McWilliams was busted and imprisoned last July. Late last year, drug agents stormed the Olympic Valley house of Mr. Kubby and his wife Michele, after weeks of surveilling the married couple through their bedroom window -- dragging them away in chains for growing a few hundred marijuana plants for medical use, two years (start ital)after(end ital) the people of California legalized medical marijuana. Both men had doctors' recommendations. The Fearless Drug Warriors' excuse? They were growing "too many" plants. (I once worked briefly for the publisher of a weekly newspaper who was convinced the photography staff was embezzling film -- he counted no more than 36 photos in each weekly issue, yet the photographer used (start iutal)several (end ital) 36-shot rolls of film each week. In vain we tried to explain to him that a photographer can burn through several rolls trying to get just one usable sports photo. Similarly, the California narco toadies seem to believe that in horticulture, to produce 30 or 40 mature plants it is only necessary to germinate 30 or 40 seeds.) Anyway, I'm sure the arrests and subsequent medical torture (by depriving them of the only medicine doctors say can keep them alive) of these two authors won't have too great a "chilling effect" on the future willingness of others to challenge the government's wisdom, do you think? Author McWilliams wrote to California state Attorney General William Lockyer on March 18: "Since my dual diagnosis (of AIDS and cancer) in March 1996, I have used medical marijuana under the guidance and supervision of three California physicians to fight the nausea caused by the prescription anti-AIDS and anti-cancer medications I must take. "If I cannot keep down my life-saving medications, I will die. Medical marijuana, in my case, had been 99.9 percent effective in alleviating nausea for more than two years. ... Because I cannot keep down my prescription medications without medical marijuana forbidden me by my bail release my viral load has risen dramatically, from undetectable (under 40) to more than 250,000. AIDS doctors become concerned when the viral load tops 10,000. ... (Please see the letter from my AIDS physician, Daniel Bowers, M.D. at http://www.petertrial.com/doc1.jpg.)" Last week, the court ruled that if McWilliams dies before his trial due to the fact he is forbidden marijuana in the meantime, that's just
[CTRL] Lyin' King Leads Vietnam II
-Caveat Lector-
LYIN' KING LEADS VIETNAM II
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(CNNS, 03/28/99) -- Bill Clinton, "The Lyin' King," leads us now
into the Kosovo quagmire, called by some the beginning of World
War III, and at least a potential Vietnam War Part 2.
Appearing as a guest panelist on PBS's "McLaughlin Group,"
Danielle Sremic, an expert on Balkan affairs, predicted that,
indeed, Kosovo will turn into a second Vietnam.
As research yields actual facts, the nonsensical nature of the
Spring fireworks display in Yugoslavia is emerging. Reluctantly,
even a few mainstream media voices are timidly asking serious
questions. For example, on ABC's Sunday morning "This Week"
program, it was asked: "If Slobodan Milosevic is Hitler, will we
be negotiating with him at some point?" [1]
It's hard, after all, to negotiate with "Hitler." And since
several experts are now saying the Serbs will never surrender
unless NATO ground troops are deployed into Kosovo, then either
Milosevic is not really "Hitler" or the escalating conflict is
going to get VERY bloody.
Says Richard Jaehne, former commander of the NATO operations
school in Europe, "We're in for a long conflict whatever we're
going to do. It's not going to be quick, it's not going to be
easy, and it's not going to be cheap." [2]
Jaehne says it's not going to be cheap, which means it will cost
lives and money. And even still, days after the bombing blitz,
nary a word in mainstream media outlets on how much $$$ it is
costing and will cost.
Some say whatever millions and billions of dollars are being
spent on the boom-booms falling now on Yugoslavia would be better
spent on easing the plight of the homeless in America. Not
understood, though, is that these USA homeless are necessary to
prop up the real estate bubble: were there less-desperate demand
for affordable housing, due to a greater supply of same, the
inflated real estate market would collapse. And that's not good
for landlords.
As usual, independent reporters on the Internet are providing the
most accurate coverage of what is really going on. Thanks to
their help, CNNS can now piece together the following:
(1) Mike Wallace of CBS, notorious already for his fake reports
on the death of Vince Foster, promotes propaganda regarding "Serb
Rape Camps." The History Channel broadcast a program recently,
hosted by Wallace, where the "Rape Camps" story was pushed off
onto viewers. Supposedly, the Serb soldiers had been massively
raping Bosnian women who were their prisoners, and that age made
no difference. Even old ladies, so the story goes, were being
systematically raped by their Serb guards! For refutation of
this twin of an earlier "Iraq incubator babies" story, also shown
now to be a lie, visit the Serb Unity Congress website,
www.suc.org
(2) "Ah, but of course the Serbs would deny it!" (That response
is already foreseen.) But the so-called "Racak massacre,"
trigger for the present imbroglio, is denied not just by the
Serbs but questioned by various journalists. *Le Figaro*
(France) doubts the story. *Le Monde* (France) is skeptical.
[3] A team of forensic investigators from Finland, by preliminary
reports, also doubts the "Racak massacre" story. And an article
in Chronicles Magazine disputes the claim of a "Racak massacre."
("Hot Spots: Kosovo Crisis." www.chroniclesmagazine.org/ )
(3) But even were the "Racak massacre" story true, the deaths of
500,000 innocent children in Iraq, brought on by U.S.-led
sanctions, makes Bill Clinton seem to be, comparatively, the
truer "Hitler."
(4) Protesters throughout the world have been gathering to
denounce the NATO boom-booms in Yugoslavia: In Moscow, thousands
protest; in New York City, thousands protest [4]; in Vancouver,
hundreds protest [5]; in Toronto, protesters firebomb the U.S.
Consulate [6]; in Australia, thousands protest and throw eggs at
police [7].
(5) Strictly speaking, it's still unknown why NATO is bombing
Yugoslavia. Asked John McLaughlin on his PBS broadcast of March
28, 1999: "What's the *real* reason?" If you believe the USA is
spending all this money and manpower due to a sudden idealistic
upsurge in humanitarian feelings, CNNS has some land it would
like to sell you. So then what's the real reason? We still
don't know, but theories include: (a) imperialism; (b) control
of drugs flowing through the region; (c) the corporate war
machine dumps bombs and then we have to pay them to build more
bombs.
The RAYTHEON CORPORATION builds the missiles now being dumped
over Yugoslavia. They are sure to profit when more U.S. taxpayer
money is handed to them, necessitated by the suddenly depleted
U.S. missile supply. "Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed
Martin, Boeing and other US defense contractors have made no
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Re: [CTRL] The E-Bomb-A Weapon of Electrical Mass Destruction
-Caveat Lector- I dealt with high power microwave transmission for communications purposes in the USAF for twenty years. This technology has grown literally by powers of ten in the time since I first encountered it. The problem with microwave is that it requires big doses of power to produce the end product... 3kw (kilowatts) in put at 50-60 cycles, 3 phases to get 1kw output at 6-8 gigacycles. The focal point (point of the most concentration of energy) is approximately 400 ft away from the center of an 8 ft parabolic antenna. This is enough energy to fry a bird should it fly through this beam and hover for a few seconds. To be a viable mobile weapon you would need megawatts (millions of watts) to power the equipment... to fry people. One thing it would do is to heat up metal (hand weapons) very fast, possibly exploding the powder in bullets... this would be very possible using larger antennas... higher amplification of the signal (actually higher concentration of the signal). If they have solved the problem of massive power generation, then this would make a formidable weapon... say a 60 ft parabolic (bowl-shaped) ... it would be like having a microwave oven the size of a five story apartment building and you could aim the beam, the focal point would be way off in the distance. The bad part about a parabolic antenna is that a portion of the power goes out the back of the antenna, so you have to be careful about where you aim it. A pigtail (shaped like a spring) antenna is very directional, but has lower gain. EMP (electromagnetic pulse) is caused by gamma(?) rays emitted from an exploding nuclear device. I don't think you can reploduce this from a radio transmitter. Gamma rays are like x-rays... they go through everything unless stopped by lead, or a thick covering of earth, rock etc. These rays literally fry transistors, integrated chips, diodes, anything made of silicon. That is why only radios, TVs, any electronic equipment will be a useless paperweight after a nuclear device is exploded. The only working electronics will be old tube-type devices, but they won't have anything to receive since all radio - TV stations will be down. About the only thing operating will be a few old time ham radios (provided they have their own power generating capability). So, if such a weapon exists... it would be very formidable, putting a halt to communications, transportation, power generation and distribution... everyone would be in the dark. These are the things I know. If anyone has something to add, please do. I have been out of the USAF for almost ten years and I'm sure there has been a lot of development in that time. From working in the civilian world... well, just say that it is a wonder that any of us survive from day to day as unorganized, corrupt, and inefficient as major corporations are. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- Prudy wrote: >"I' m not positive, Hilary, but I don't think cooking kills prions." Prions are not "alive", and are not classified as virus, bacteria, etc. unfortuantley, since they are not "alive" they also can't be "killed", and are extremely resistant to normal disinfection/ pastuerization procedures. Robert Paul. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.com/~NorseKnight DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 1:31:23 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > We have to make judgements every day to see what is right and wrong! You are > saying in effect there is no right and wrong just as the media and president > are saying. Look where they have taken us! Isn't it wonderful? Not! > Yadda Yadda yawn yawn It is people like you who twist and turn the truth that screw the world up. Dr. Erebus The End >> No sir, you did that jpb very well, and we are in the last times! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 11:02:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I understand the infection is from eating beef, but I have not read anything in detail about this. Is this from under-cooked beef or can there be infection from fully cooked beef? Does any one know? I suspect that fully cooking the beef would kill the virus, but who knows. >> I' m not positive, Hilary, but I don't think cooking kills prions. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990328a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Baby from dead husband's sperm. (BBC) A woman in the United States has given birth after conceiving from sperm taken from her dead husband, who died of an allergic reaction. It is the first known birth of its kind in the US. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_305000/305302.stm : Should you be reproduced after your death? Should such reproduction be managed by your family, friends, schools, gov't, aliens, spies, deities? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Biometrics comes to Washington - Big Brother is measuring you. Biometrics are all those new technologies that make sure you are who you say you are, by scanning the iris of your eye (no poking allowed), reading your palm (I see an FBI checkpoint in your future), or listening to your voice (now tell it to the judge). If you watch "The X-Files," you know what I'm talking about. www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_franke/19990325_xcdfr_biometrics.shtml : Is your DNA more likely to be used for your health, your security, your exploitation, your subjugation; for the entertainment of bored Reptilioids? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Everybody can see the future - it's official. (BBC) Tiny cells in the eye "predict" the future. Seeing the future is not limited to clairvoyants and fortune-tellers - we can all do it, according to Harvard scientists, who have been looking at the human ability to respond to an object that travels literally too fast for the eye to have time to transmit its image to the brain. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_305000/305411.stm : How extensive is your future vision? Can you see speeding UFOs before they land? Can you see supersonic bullets before they strike? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # It's alive! (CSM) Good old Dr. Frankenstein, he stuck to the basics. He simply took one from column A, two from column B, sewed it all together. Which is kind of the idea behind TechnoSphere, an artificial life envir- onment that allows visitors to piece together their own creatures, and then follow their progress in a three-dimensional virtual world. See http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor/cybercoverage/sitereviews/p-sitetechnos phere032599.html @ TechnoSphere: http://www.technosphere.org.uk/. : What sorts of ALs (Artificial Lifeforms) do you prefer? Would you rather have living or AL pets, neighbors, politicians? Would you eat an AL burger? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ROCKET LAUNCHED FROM PACIFIC PLATFORM. A rocket roared off a converted oil platform floating in the equatorial Pacific in the first test of an interna- tional venture's oceangoing satellite launch system. The Ukrainian- and Rus- sian-built Zenit-3SL rocket carried a dummy satellite as it lifted off from Odyssey, a self-propelled platform stationed 1,400 miles south of Hawaii. Launch delayed by minor problems: www.cnn.com/US/9903/27/AM-SeaLaunch.ap/ and http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_306000/306014.stm @ Links: Energia Ltd: http://www.energialtd.com/rsc.htm @ Kvaerner: http://www.kvaerner.com/research/sealaunc.stm @ US Federal Aviation Administration: http://www.faa.gov/ @ Boeing/SeaLaunch: www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/sealaunch/ : When will Earth's equator be ringed with floating launch pads run by every corporation and ministate trying to cash in on space frenzy? D'ya want one? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Brazilian Church Experiences Healing. BRASILIA (CBN) Like many South Amer- ican cities, Brasilia has a strong spiritual dynamic that includes spiritism and witchcraft. But there is also a strong Christian community that is grow- ing. At Central Baptist Church, Pastor Vilarindo Lima, 73, credits his long- evity at the church with the workings of the Holy Spirit, with healings, and salvation. He showed confirmations of God's healing power. He has the X-rays that reveal a woman's back was badly bent, but after prayer the spine was corrected. He has many more stories of supernatural healings. "We have seen cures of cancer, AIDS, lupus" - http://www.the700club.org/cwn/990225d.asp : If deities heal, why aren't believers physically immortal? If you believe but you die anyway, why bother? If deities cause the diseases and ailments they later heal, aren't these gods running confidence rackets? Do you care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Records of Past Civilizations - http://www.habtheory.com/111.htm @ The Crime Library: http://www.crimelibrary.com/index.html @ Artcyclopedia - Museum art online: http://artcyclopedia.com/ # World Diseases - Weekly Bulletins: http://www.newsfile.com/samples1.htm # USAID Famine Early Warning System: www.info.usaid.gov/fews/fews.html @ The Jesus myth: http://www-ctp.mit.edu/~alford/james.html @ Did Jesus Exist? http://members.aol.com/JAlw/did_jesus_exist2.html @ Biblical c
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 12:39:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > We have to make judgements every day to see what is right and wrong! You are > saying in effect there is no right and wrong just as the media and president > are saying. Look where they have taken us! Isn't it wonderful? Not! > Yadda Yadda yawn yawn It is people like you who twist and turn the truth that screw the world up. Dr. Erebus The End DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 12:23:46 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Who are you to judgenoone. Your opinion does not matter...as does not mine. Only God will judge. Dr. Erebus >> We have to make judgements every day to see what is right and wrong! You are saying in effect there is no right and wrong just as the media and president are saying. Look where they have taken us! Isn't it wonderful? Not! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately, cooking, freezig, etc. has no effect on this prion. I CAN'T BE KILLED because it is a protein block and is in the basic building block of the meat. You eat the meat, no matter what has been done to it, you get the prion. The book "Deadly Feasts" goes on about this quite a bit. I have forgotten the author's name. Th disease-causing organism is only "alive" is the most basic sense and has been traced to cannibalism in New Zeland. That is what is suspected in livestock, too. Feeding livestock feed with "parts" of slaughtered animals recucled back in to feed. Chickens are also suspect and some antibiotic-resistent strains of bacteria have been found in chicken feed in this country but reported in the Lancet in Britain. "Thorough Cooking" as we have been taught to believe does not always work anymore on these mutated strains. Much as I love meat, I often try to go vegetarian these days. Hope I will become better at it. Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 12:16:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Two wrongs don't make a right! > Who are you to judgenoone. Your opinion does not matter...as does not mine. Only God will judge. Dr. Erebus DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- This quiz catergorized me as a Libertarian. Hilary -- > From: Peter L. Sroufe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz" > Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 11:21 PM > > -Caveat Lector- > > Find out where you stand politically at: > > http://www.self-gov.org/index.html > > This will surprise a lot of you! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/27/99 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > age > .Nurses, under Drs orders, every day of the week, jack up the amt of > morphine > in a terminal patients IV-- they jack it up, in the end, knowing it causes > respiratory depression- that also will kill a patient and is used frequently by doctors to let a terminal patient in agony die.but they are not in the news and I have seen this first hand. Dr. K. is not the only one. Dr. Erebus DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 12:13:15 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You obviously know very little of Dr. K. as a person. Maybe you should do some research before condemning a person. He is only doing what people are BEGGING him to do, not going out and killing innocent people for no reason. Dr. Erebus >> Two wrongs don't make a right! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 1:53:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Doc: >God is all good, all love, but He is the judge at death time! He didn' > t > give Ten Commandments for nothing! He said thou shalt not kill, its as > simple > as that! again, the word suicide does not even appear in the bible. The bible does not cover this issue and yes, God is the Judge and Jury.so stop trying to take his place. You are not God and you do not know what he feels about this. Dr. Erebus DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/27/99 9:55:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > what do you tell the relatives of the 5 people who suffered from depression, > who had NO terminal illness, that Dr Jack disposed of? > Dr Jack was a sometime-pathologist, NEVER a "people doctor" > he seems to have developed an obsession with death along with the onset of > old > age > .Nurses, under Drs orders, every day of the week, jack up the amt of > morphine > in a terminal patients IV-- they jack it up, in the end, knowing it causes > respiratory depression--unlike Dr. Jack, they have spent many yrs dealing > with > PEOPLE, not in a cold pathology lab, but working with the families--and-- > they > dont seek fame, they dont paint strange and shizo drawings, they dont want > to > be on the cover of Time-Dr Jack deserves what he gets--Sorry! Drs can be > serial killers too! > You obviously know very little of Dr. K. as a person. Maybe you should do some research before condemning a person. He is only doing what people are BEGGING him to do, not going out and killing innocent people for no reason. Dr. Erebus DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The E-Bomb-A Weapon of Electrical Mass Destruction
-Caveat Lector- The E-Bomb-A Weapon of Electrical Mass Destruction CyberSpace ORBIT reference, link, report http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html Kent Steadman, Editor ABSTRACT 14 May 1997 High Power Electromagnetic Pulse generation techniques and High Power Microwave technology have matured to the point where practical E-bombs (Electromagnetic bombs) are becoming technically feasible, with new applications in both Strategic and Tactical Information Warfare. The development of conventional E-bomb devices allows their use in non-nuclear confrontations. This paper discusses aspects of the technology base, weapon delivery techniques and proposes a doctrinal foundation for the use of such devices in warhead and bomb applications. ORBIT http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton Announced Arcos & Freedman to Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
-Caveat Lector- A U.S. Newswire article, dated 24 March 1999, reports that Clinton announced that he will appoint Cresencio S. Arcos and Stephen Freedman to serve as members of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. The article includes a brief bio for Arcos, and Freedman. Arcos' bio indicates he is a Council on Foreign Relations member. Clinton's and Freedman's membership in the Council on Foreign Relations is not mentioned in the article. The function of an information agency is to disseminate truth - to a make available fact and opinion, each carefully labeled and separated from the other. The aim of an information agency is to enable as many people as possible to form their own individual judgments on the basis of relevant fact and authoritative opinion. The function of a propaganda agency is almost the exact opposite: it is not to inform, but to persuade. In order to persuade it must disseminate only such fact, such opinion, and such fiction masquerading as fact as will serve to make people act, or fail to act in the desired way. Propaganda, is the effort to alter the picture to which men respond, to substitute one social pattern for another. Propaganda is used to create false reality worlds using sleight of mind. Psycho-political operations are propaganda campaigns. Strategic psycho-political operations focus propaganda at powerful individuals, or small groups of people capable of influencing public opinion or the government of a particular country. Tactical psycho-political operations focus propaganda at the masses by interference in specific events, their comments, and their appeals through mass communication media ( i.e. newspapers, radio, television, textbooks, educational material, art, entertainment, etc. ). Both forms of propaganda are used to manipulate public opinion to attain foreign policy goals in a given period. If the operations are designed to conceal both the operation and the sponsor the operation is clandestine. If the operations are designed only to conceal only the sponsor the operation is covert. Is the "free press" an information agency or a propaganda agency? The press is deliberately withholding information regarding the extent of the Council on Foreign Relations role in shaping United States foreign policy. The press is deliberately withholding information regarding the extent of Council on Foreign Relations control of the Executive Office, the Central Intelligence Agency,and the State Department. The press is deliberately withholding information regarding the extent to which the Council on Foreign Relations controls congressional investigations including the Rockefeller Commission, the Church Committee, the Warren Commission, and the Tower Commission investigations. President Clinton, Cresencio Arcos and Stephen Freedman are all Council on Foreign Relations members, as are Madeleine Albright, William Cohen, and Sandy Berger. Clinton and Freedman also belong to a CFR front organization called the Trilateral commission. Shouldn't the press be making the American public aware that it is the Council on Foreign Relations and not their elected representatives who are making Foreign Policy decisions resulting in a perpetual state of war? The U.S. Newswire article follows. It has been updated to indicate Council on Foreign Relations membership. Following the article is a CFR membership list.(about 3000 names) made by merging 1995, 1992, 1990, 1988, and 1985 CFR membership rosters. Print it out, keep it handy when you watch or read the news, you'll be surprised how often a CFR name turns up, as a key figure in story, or as a journalist or broadcaster: Following the CFR list is a 1998 Trilateral Commission membership list (about 325 names). Use your computer's search feature to see how many Trilateral Commission members can be found on the Council on Foreign Relations membership list. When you have convinced yourself that the Council on Foreign Relations is the group running the show, send your elected representatives copies of the list and ask them to do the same. Also ask them to call for a congressional investigation of the Council on Foreign Relations. roundtable >[Council on Foreign Relations member] Clinton Nominates Two to Foreign >Intelligence Board >U.S. Newswire >24 Mar 16:57 > >[Council on Foreign Relations member] Clinton Nominates Two to Foreign >Intelligence Advisory Board >To: National Desk >Contact: White House Press Office, 202-456-2100 > >WASHINGTON, March 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The President today >announced his intent to appoint [Council on Foreign Relations member] >Cresencio S. Arcos and [Council on Foreign Relations member] Stephen >Friedman to serve as Members of the President's Foreign Intelligence >Advisory Board. > >[Council on Foreign Relations member] Ambassador Cresencio S. Arcos, of >Coral Gables, Fla., is Vice >President of AT&T Latin America. A former career Foreign Service >Officer, Ambassador Arcos served in a number of k
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: U.K. Chronology of "Operation Allied Force" March 24- 27
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for this. If you have more please post it. Hilary -- > From: A.C. Szul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: U.K. Chronology of "Operation Allied Force" March 24- 27 > Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 6:46 PM > > -Caveat Lector- > > fyi...nothing yet here about the downing of the Stealth fighter > > USIA_LISTS wrote: > > > TEXT: UK CHRONOLOGY OF "OPERATION ALLIED FORCE" MARCH 24-27 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo according to Sherman S.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm Forward to the last hour. His name is not listed for obvious reasons... Jim Yester wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 3/27/99 3:53:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > > > > > Well, good ol' Sherman Skolnick was on for the last hour of Sightings > > last night. Turns out not one single person knows what is really going > > on. It's about . well, listen to the archive for yourself. > > > > DECLARA > Could you post the URL > > Jim > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- 1974 - Anthrax in Brazil - meat shortage; organized crime bringing up beef from Brazilone AFB in California menningitus outbreak and cases at LAB in Columbus, Ohio. People seem to get menningitus from beef where cattle infected wit Anthrax. One can only recall during that period our CIA and its experiments in the tunnels of New York City; their work with menningitus bacteria; a man in Lancaster as of late with Bubonic Plague bacteria; and of course do not forget the Legionairres Disease (My Name Is Legion for we are many) during the so called "swine flu" epidemic. Now the Military is having problems forcing innoculations on the troops for Anthrax, a disease of cattle, related to mennimgitus, etc. One thing I still remember in 1974, and I was furious. This was during the Nixon regime - 50% of the chicken in the country suffers from cancer - suddenly, they wanted to sell this 50% of cancerous chicken, to the public saying it was safe. because cancer was not contagious. I asked well then, how did they get it - from something they ate. After that, shortly thereafter, a lot of chicken looked skinney and underfed. Dying cattle angers me; in USA we have found mutilted cattle and contribute the cause to UFO.I can only say mutilated cattle in fields - someone is using parts and of the brain too - of the body for experiments. We speak of Jack the Ripper; what about the mutilated cattle; I have a Hogarth print "Ye Old Roast Beef of England"..now, farmers in England must destroy their cattle. Yet, McDonalds marches on ... all over the world. Is the production of meat being sabotaged; why this sudden interest in anthrax vaccines; the peaceful cow, the provides milk, ice cream, cheeses - first researchers now say it will kill you with antherschlerosis - now, it will kill you with mad cow disease. Who is sabotaging our country and England; who is sabotaging our trains,and who flew an airplane into the Whitehouse; well, ask Hollywood..and go see Independence Day. Did you ever dream you would go to a movie for entertainment, and see the White House and Capitol Buildings blown up for a laugh in a humerous movie. in addition to this - consider the Supreme Court ruled that the standards of a City is set by its citizens. Well, if the standards of Washington DC have been set by the President, and the Congress...it is time for for cleansing and housekeeping - right in the heart of Ezekials Wheel. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- Ric, Thanks for the explanation. I was definitely missing the point on this one. Not for the first time in my life I am glad I don't care for organ meat. I actually don't care for the taste of meat in general. Think I'll join you for a tofu burger! Hilary -- > From: Ric Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK > Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 9:42 AM > > -Caveat Lector- > > - Original Message - > From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Upswing in CJD deaths in UK. Is this the beginning of a major epidemic > > > or merely an "uptick?" Which prediction will come true, 75 deaths or > > > 80,000 deaths? > > > > I understand the infection is from eating beef, but I have not read > > anything in detail about this. Is this from under-cooked beef or can > > there be infection from fully cooked beef? Does any one know? I sus- > > pect that fully cooking the beef would kill the virus, but who knows... > > CJD / BSE / "Mad Cow disease" is not caused by a virus, but by a prion, > a damaged protein, which is much simpler [and therefore more difficult > to destroy by heat] than a virus or bacteria. Anyway, a virus itself > would not necessarily be destroyed by moderate heat, although many are. > > IIRC from an old SciAm article on CJD, the CJD prion is NOT damaged by > even thorough cooking. CJD was AFAIK first noted among cannibals, in > Papua New Guinea, especially women and children. The cultural practice > in the affected tribes was/is to cook and eat their vanquished human > foes, with the male warriors taking the preferred fleshy chunks, leaving > brains and other offal to the less favored women and children. The CJD > prion embeds in neural tissue, so if you eat brains, spinal cords, neuro- > vascular bundles, etc. of an infected individual, you're much more likely > to ingest the prion, which then turns your brain into spongy slush. > > BSE / "Mad Cow disease" propagates via the practice among 'modern' meat > producers of grinding up the offal of slaughtered cattle, and mixing > this into the processed feed given to cattle, sheep and other herd food > animals. So in the attempt to waste as little of the animal as possible, > and to maximize their economic benefits, they thus spread the "Mad Cow > disease" to the herds and the human consumers. BSE is a byproduct of > cost-effectiveness, that's all. Good for the bottom line, eh? > > Ric "give me tofuburgers or give me BSE" Carter, munching... > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * > * > *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** > now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question > email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DEFENSE DEPARTMENT REPORT, MARCH 27
-Caveat Lector- Have we become so far removed from what war really is that we expect to fight a war and not have any friendly casualties? One of the reasons that many people are not eager to engage in battle is because of the resulting deaths. However, our current administration has designed war campaigns to eliminate our soldiers deaths. Let me state now that I do not want to see anyone killed on either side. How could I advocate that? My point is that the past couple of "wars" have almost been serial - something one would expect to see in a movie. In fact, without any American deaths to register in our hearts what is actually happening these engagements in many ways can be dismissed as not actually happening, as not being really real? Just some rambling. I'm not even sure if I've made my point. Hmm...think I need some coffee. Hilary -Caveat Lector- the Serbs have mounted a strong and sophisticated propaganda campaign. To what degree? One would assume from the statement above that Serbs have been planning for this day just as long, if not longer, than NATO. If that's the case, any guesses how NATO is planning to respond? Why hasn't the Serb TV been targeted and taken out yet? That's their main propoganda machine, especially after they were the ones that sent out pics of the downed Stealth fighter. US media was, in fact, replaying Serb TV footage. USIA_LISTS wrote: > DEFENSE DEPARTMENT REPORT, MARCH 27 > > (Kosovo/Stealth, Bacon/ground troops) > > PENTAGON INVESTIGATES PRESS REPORTS OF STEALTH DOWNING > > On the fourth night of the NATO air campaign, a variety of media > carried reports of the downing of a U.S. Stealth aircraft. > > Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said March 27 that "we are aware of > the report and are investigating." > > This was not the first report of the downing of NATO aircraft > participating in "Operation Allied Force." Earlier reports of aircraft > shootdowns were denied by U.S. and NATO spokespersons. > > CNN broadcast footage from Serb Television showing burning wreckage of > an airplane, which Serb authorities said was an F-117A Nighthawk > stealth bomber. > > Before the report of the Stealth crash, a British Air Force official > speaking from alliance headquarters in Brussels warned reporters to > assess all reports carefully as he said the Serbs have mounted a > strong and sophisticated propaganda campaign. > > Some 400 NATO aircraft are participating in the air campaign, flying > against military targets throughout the Federal Republic of > Yugoslavia. These targets have included both manned and unmanned > flights in both strike and support roles. > > Throughout the air operation, U.S. and NATO spokesmen have warned of > the risks involved in the allied effort to halt repression in Kosovo. > > BACON SAYS NO U.S. GROUND TROOPS TO KOSOVO > > "The United States has no intention of sending ground troops to fight > in Kosovo, and the Department of Defense is not doing any planning > that would enable such a deployment," says Pentagon spokesman Ken > Bacon. > > Bacon reiterated the U.S. position on sending ground forces to Kosovo > in a written statement late March 27. > > Bacon said the United States would only consider sending ground troops > to Kosovo as part of a NATO peacekeeping force after an agreement > establishing a ceasefire and requiring disarmament by both parties to > the conflict in Kosovo. > > * > > * > For more information regarding the latest policy statements and other > materials related to the Kosovo crisis, visit > http://www.usia.gov/regional/eur/balkans/kosovo/ > > To subscribe to KOSOVO, send the command/message > SUBSCRIBE KOSOVO Firstname Lastname > to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->snip> Regards, -A.C. Szul http://www.erols.com/mack97 "The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EM
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Upswing in CJD deaths in UK. Is this the beginning of a major epidemic > > or merely an "uptick?" Which prediction will come true, 75 deaths or > > 80,000 deaths? > > I understand the infection is from eating beef, but I have not read > anything in detail about this. Is this from under-cooked beef or can > there be infection from fully cooked beef? Does any one know? I sus- > pect that fully cooking the beef would kill the virus, but who knows... CJD / BSE / "Mad Cow disease" is not caused by a virus, but by a prion, a damaged protein, which is much simpler [and therefore more difficult to destroy by heat] than a virus or bacteria. Anyway, a virus itself would not necessarily be destroyed by moderate heat, although many are. IIRC from an old SciAm article on CJD, the CJD prion is NOT damaged by even thorough cooking. CJD was AFAIK first noted among cannibals, in Papua New Guinea, especially women and children. The cultural practice in the affected tribes was/is to cook and eat their vanquished human foes, with the male warriors taking the preferred fleshy chunks, leaving brains and other offal to the less favored women and children. The CJD prion embeds in neural tissue, so if you eat brains, spinal cords, neuro- vascular bundles, etc. of an infected individual, you're much more likely to ingest the prion, which then turns your brain into spongy slush. BSE / "Mad Cow disease" propagates via the practice among 'modern' meat producers of grinding up the offal of slaughtered cattle, and mixing this into the processed feed given to cattle, sheep and other herd food animals. So in the attempt to waste as little of the animal as possible, and to maximize their economic benefits, they thus spread the "Mad Cow disease" to the herds and the human consumers. BSE is a byproduct of cost-effectiveness, that's all. Good for the bottom line, eh? Ric "give me tofuburgers or give me BSE" Carter, munching... * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * * *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Incident
-Caveat Lector- I seem to recall reading about this in a short story of fiction once. Or perhaps it was Urban Legend. Sounds dubious at best, menacingly Lovecraftian (or Ligottian) at worst. Still these types of tales are extremely interesting to me. It implies things about the universe that you would be astounded to know, and our relationship in it. It also points to the fact that we will never know the answer to questions of profundity. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- -- > From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK > Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 7:19 AM > > -Caveat Lector- > > Upswing in CJD deaths in UK. Is this the beginning of a major epidemic > or merely an "uptick?" Which prediction will come true, 75 deaths or > 80,000 deaths? > flw I understand the infection is from eating beef, but I have not read anything in detail about this. Is this from under-cooked beef or can there be infection from fully cooked beef? Does any one know? I suspect that fully cooking the beef would kill the virus, but who knows... Hilary DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 3/28/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - Kosovo Protests Increase Over NATO Strikes "The path of Hitlerism" OPPOSITION to the air strikes on Serbia was growing around the world last night. The action was denounced in the Russian parliament, where President Bill Clinton was compared to Hitler, and ministers threatened to send military hardware to aid Belgrade. In Greece, 15,000 people took to the streets on Friday and there were demonstrations of anger yesterday in Britain, Germany and Italy. The full force of Russia's rage at Nato air strikes in the Balkans was on display in the Duma yesterday, with parliamentary leaders calling for the immediate dispatch of arms and volunteers. Gennady Zyuganov, leader of Russia's communists, said: "With its use of force, blackmail and bombs, America has set out on the path of Hitlerism." Igor Ivanov, the Russian foreign minister, said that although Moscow would not allow itself to be dragged into a new Balkan war, it reserved the right to send military equipment to Belgrade if its attempts at ending the hostilities failed. In southern Italy, local communities around the Nato air base in Apulia voiced concern last night at the continued bombing. An anti-war coalition of communists, pacifists, religious groups and trade unions organised protests in towns around the base. Fears about Serb attacks along with a possible huge increase in the number of Kosovar refugees led to calls for a halt to the campaign. In Athens, riot police used tear gas to disperse an estimated 15,000 demonstrators in front of the United States embassy on Friday. Greece has led the dissident wing of Nato, calling for an immediate halt to the bombing and a return to the negotiating table. It has also refused to offer its military forces to join the assault. Last night Terrence Taylor, assistant director at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, said that cracks were appearing in the Nato alliance. In Berlin, riot police were involved in violent clashes with anti-Nato protesters following a 3,000-strong demonstration yesterday. The protest, organised by former communists in the Party for Democratic Socialism (PDS), was addressed by the party leader Lothar Bisky, who described the air strikes as "criminal". The PDS announced last week that it would take the Bonn government to court, arguing that sending troops to join the Nato assault was unconstitutional. In London, more than 1,000 anti-war protesters and Serbian nationalists carried flags and sang Serbian folk songs outside Downing Street yesterday. Placards accused President Clinton and Tony Blair of being "murderers" and said innocent blood was being shed because of "American imperialism". Demonstrations have been held daily in Whitehall, but Scotland Yard said yesterday's was the biggest so far. The London Telegraph, March 28, 1999 Hacking for Jesus Australia Approves Computer Hacking by Spies They want your data--at any cost From: Vin McLellan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:28:07 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [See below for news report] The report below -- announcing changes in Australian law to permit the lead Australian LEA to hack into targeted computers with a Ministerial warrant -- may mark an important event. I suspect it is a precursor of things to come in the US and elsehwere as LEAs and intelligence agencies come to terms with the widespread availability and use of strong cryptography. While crypto effectively protects data in transit and (to a lesser extent) operationally stored data, the relative vulnerability of the common Wintel PC and other computers -- the end points of a crypto link -- make them an obvious target for eavesdroppers foiled by cryptography. This is not a new insight. The Australians (and the famous Aussie Walsh Report on AU Crypto Policy) are only more public than other nations in their shift to focus on the end-point computers as the primary vulnerability of encrypted communicaton links. One approach is to develop specialized black bag techniques, where a burglar "under color of law" -- or with minimal or no concern for local Law, in "intelligence" ops -- slips into a target's home or office to steal disk-stored crypto keys, or to replace a target's crypto apps (SSL, SSH, S/MIME, PGP, RSA SecurPC, etc.) with a corrupted or backdoored versions. I recall that a CIA operative arrested in the US on espionage charges last year was described as a specialist in this. I think everyone can take it for granted that such skills (both burglary and subversive programming) are in great demand throughout the international intelligence community, and will soon figure prominently in warranted LEA surveillance. In Australia now; elsewhere soon. Perhaps everywhere eventually. A burglar or a penetration agent who can switch copy crypto keys, switch smartcards or a smartcard reader, load keyboard
[CTRL] Fwd: Videotaped Proof of Ritual Abuse
Subject: Ritual Crime From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:58:17 UTC (Here's another example regarding the FBI and for those who ask "where's the evidence?" I would like to know where the FBI is keeping all the pornographic evidence that could substantiate childrens claims - all over the country - that they were ritually abused and photographed. The official stance is"No evidence of a conspiracy." I'm typing in two newspaper articles): *The Boston Herald, Monday, March 11, 1991 Parents Eye Porn-ring link Two Cape Cod couples who claim their children were molested and filmed by child ponographers will today ask authorities for permission to view videotapes confiscated during a New Hampshire raid of an alleged kiddie porn ring. "This is the best chance we've had in three years to get some evidence," said the mother of one 12-year old, who first revealed his role as a victim in a child pornography ring in 1988. The parents said a March I raid by the New Hampshire U.S, Attorney which resulted in the arrest of three suspected pornographers "may be the break we need" to get authorities interested in their case. The parents decided to ask federal officials for permission to view the videotapes after noticing similarities between their children's stories and information released by FBI agents probing the New Hampshire operation. "(Our) children have talked about pregnant women being tortured, children being kidnapped, they've talked about Satanisn. They've talked about Providence, New Bedford and New Hampshire," said one mother. "I'm interested in knowing how many of these things match up with the New Hampshire case." Three men, Wayne H. Bailey. 56, of Fairhaven, an audio technician for a Providence, R.I., television station; Brian K. Schultz, 44, a Barrington, N.H., man who allegedly produced kiddie porn; and Mark Colen, from Brooklyn, Conn., an alleged pornographic filmmaker were arrested March 1 by FBI agents in New Hampshire and charged with running a major child pornography operation. Investigators said videotapes recovered In searches of the men's homes and businesses reveal pregnant women being tortured, children being molested by adults, and child pornography with "Satanic" inferences. The children in the Cape Cod case claim the perpetrators, posing as relatives would take them during school hours to nearby homes where they were sexually abused and filmed engaging in sex acts with other children, adults and animals. Their families, who did not want their names used said they have tried to interest Massachusetts authorities in their case since 1988 but were rebuffed by police, the FBI, the local district attorney's office and U.S. Postal Inspectors. The children were interviewed on several occasions by former Attorney General James Shannon's office but their case was never officially investigated. "When we first started on this, we had no idea law enforcement would be this way. We thought every- body would be as outraged as we were," noted one mother, saying she doesn't understand why Massachusetts authorities have not investigated the children's allegations despite two reports substantiating their claims. Reports from the Children's hospital sexual abuse team and the Department of Social Services which were obtained by the Herald, confirm the children were the victims of ritualized sexual abuse. "I want law enforcement to take a true interest in this," said another mother whose four children, ages 7, 9, 11 and 12, were allegedly abused at the hands of child pornographers. "These kids are talking about too many things they shouldn't know about at this age. 'They talk about people they shouldn't know and the inter-relationship with those people. There are too many coincidences and too many unanswered questions.' A report on one of the children filed by the sexual abuse treatment team at Children's hospital in Boston obtained by the Herald found the child's story of ritualized sexual abuse "is highly consistent with that of a child who has experienced chronic physical and sexual abuse involving Satanic rituals." The report also states the details of his revelations are very similar to those of other reported cases, "which serves to further support the credibility of his disclosures." Tom Smith, spokesman for Attorney General L. Scott Harshbarger, declined comment on the case. The parents, who have since moved from, the Cape Cod Community where the alleged abuse reportedy occured, said that despite the lack of an official probe, they are not giving up on their attempts to have their children's allegations investigated. *Boston Herald* March, 18, 1991 Cape parents want porn case reopened The parents of a Cape Cod boy who says he was victimized by a child pornography ring yesterday said they want authorities to reopen an investigation because new evidence corroborating their son's accusations has surfaced. A yearlong probe into the alleged ring was dropped by the C
[CTRL] CJD (Mad Cow) case rate - UK
-Caveat Lector- Upswing in CJD deaths in UK. Is this the beginning of a major epidemic or merely an "uptick?" Which prediction will come true, 75 deaths or 80,000 deaths? flw ->CJD (NEW VARIANT), CASE RATE - UK >* >Date: 19 Mar 199 10:07:50-0500 and 20 Mar 1999 05:35:54+0800 >From: Chan Yow Cheong > ProMED-mail Regional Moderator for Asia & > Robertson, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sources: Nando Times 19 Mar 1999 and NY Times 19 Mar 1999 (Edited) > > >Nine human deaths from new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJDnv), an >incurable illness that causes holes in the brain, were confirmed during the >last 3 months of 1998, according to a report in _The Lancet_, a British >medical journal. Previously there had been no more than 5 deaths in any >three-month period. > >The CJDnv has been linked to a disease in cattle known as bovine spongiform >encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease. An epidemic of the cattle disease >led the European Union to impose a global ban on the export of British >beef, but most of those restrictions were lifted last year. > >The report from the National Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Surveillance Unit, >based in Edinburgh, Scotland, said the number of deaths during the quarter >in 1998 was unusual, but it was unclear whether the increase was due to >chance or would continue. > >Since 1995 when the human form BSE was first recognized, 39 Britons have >died from the disease. The Department of Health reported 15 people died of >CJDnv in 1998, compared with 10 in each of the previous two years. One >death was confirmed in January this year. > >>From the beginning of 1995 through September 1998, the number of deaths >reported each quarter year stayed relatively constant, said Dr. Simon >Cousens, a scientist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine >who is helping track the disease. Dr. Cousens stated it is possible doctors >have simply gotten better at diagnosing CJDnv. The increase could also be a >statistical fluke. > >Two years ago, British scientists projected as few as 75 and as many as >80,000 deaths in 20 years from CJDnv, depending on the incubation period >and how the infection is passed from animals to humans. Neither has been >determined. > >The epidemic in animals began in 1986 when the brain disease BSE began >killing cattle in Britain. Infected animals developed spongy areas in their >brains, suffered personality changes began staggering in circles -- hence >the term, mad cow disease. By the beginning of this year, 173,718 cows had >been diagnosed with the disease while more than four million animals had >been destroyed in an effort to eliminate the infection. > >Initially Government officials assured the public that people could not get >the disease from eating infected cattle. But when young people began to >develop CJD -- a disease almost exclusively found in people over age 50 -- >scientists began to worry. > >Two years ago researchers demonstated the brains of infected cows and the >brains of _young_ people dying from CJD have identical characteristics. The >human form of BSE was then named CJDnv. Older victims develop a form called >spontaneous CJD. > >Last year, Dr. John Collinge, a leading CJD expert at Imperial College in >London, discovered that the tonsils of CJDnv victims carry an infectious >particle, called a prion, that seems to be responsible for the disease. > >The infectious prions are found throughout nervous and lymphatic tissue, >including tonsils, and may incubate for years before causing overt signs of >disease. Thus medical facilities throughout Britain are now testing for >infectious prions in tissue samples saved from thousands of tonsillectomies >in the last decade. > >It is another method to gauge the spread of mad cow disease in humans. In a >separate finding, Dr. Collinge and his colleagues reported today in the >journal _Science_ that they can observe normal prions turning into abnormal >or infectious prions in a test tube, which he said in a telephone interview >may eventually help scientists block the accumulation of abnormal prions in >the brain. > > >[Since there are tests that can be performed prior to the patients death, >why are the patients that have been diagnosed as being "prion positive" not >being counted in the statistics? Why are the statistics only updated after >the patient has died? - Mod.TG] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo according to Sherman S.
-Caveat Lector- here is the URL http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm STEVE Jim Yester wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 3/27/99 3:53:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > > > > > Well, good ol' Sherman Skolnick was on for the last hour of Sightings > > last night. Turns out not one single person knows what is really going > > on. It's about . well, listen to the archive for yourself. > > > > DECLARA > Could you post the URL > > Jim > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Beware of Clinton's "Web" of Treaties!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 3:50:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << by: Phyllis Schlafly Some people think that President Bill Clinton is only interested in power and women. That's not true. He has a very definite and specific global agenda. http://www.eagleforum.org/speech/cc_speech.html Read the above Folks, and you'll know who NOT to vote for in 2000! >> I've always made it a practice to take the other side of anything Phyllis Schlafly advises. So you're right in an odd way. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >Now do not forget, it was the Bright and Morning Star, that fell from >heaven; > >Revelantions - Last Chapter - > >I AM the bright and Morning Star.. >And God remembered when all the morning stars sang together better go back and read because j. promises the bright and morning star to those who overcome. fallen nothin'. reinterprete this. LIKE I SAID BEFORE. (just in case it got past you the first time as it apparently has) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion
-Caveat Lector- Now do not forget, it was the Bright and Morning Star, that fell from heaven; Revelantions - Last Chapter - I AM the bright and Morning Star.. And God remembered when all the morning stars sang together Me, I havae always been a lost chord. And love every moment, me and the Unicorn DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >Does the bible say that in so many words, those that were bitten by the >snake lived; and is that why the AMA (American Medical Association) >chose the Serpent and the Staff as a symbol? > >Could the devil have been a doctor; doctor's are by definition healers; absolutely not. >most believe, he was a lawyer most who saw the "devil's advocate" good movie by the way. >and >maybe even a misguided preacher rationalizing liberalism. or maybe, in this particular instance, a minion whose only purpose is to perpetuate a mentality born of confusion and formed for the sole purpose of perpetuating that confusion by way of lies. lies because they are born of the father of lies. he is also known by the name of the accusor (ask your neighbors in salem about this aspect of him), he is also known as "old clute", lucifer (?), the fallen one, legion, the prince of this world, the slanderer, the goat, baal, old clootie, old horny, the devil, satan, the miser, the prince of darkness, lord of the underworld, the great dragon, the serpent, the antichrist, old scratch, misbegotten son, the grim reaper, the evil one, saturn, pluto; and as he so aptly stated in the "devil's advocate", "... i have so many names." do the devil's hands know that they are the hands of the devil or do they think, 'we are only hands with no will of our own'; we do as we are ordered. we do evil's bidding but we are not evil. did you know that your ideas were born in a think tank whose sole object is to subjugate you into working for the subjugation of everyone. your orders come from your choice of laundry detergent. the enemy has to be created by the real enemy so as to divert attention from themselves. you sound as though you have attained the title of administratress of confusion and disinformationitous. do they pay you? how much is the price of a soul these days? > > >Very interest story, Steven. the responce was rather illuminating on your part as well. > > >Colleen inside informant, sirhC DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Incident
-Caveat Lector- http://www.the-void.dk/incident/intro.html"> The Incident http://www.the-void.dk/incident/intro.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Beware of Clinton's "Web" of Treaties!
-Caveat Lector- by: Phyllis Schlafly Some people think that President Bill Clinton is only interested in power and women. That's not true. He has a very definite and specific global agenda. http://www.eagleforum.org/speech/cc_speech.html Read the above Folks, and you'll know who NOT to vote for in 2000! Bard "Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans' appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded." -- Abraham Lincoln (December 1840) Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The despot's heel is on thy shore / Maryland, My Maryland
Perhaps if you listen to this song, and hear the music to Tannenbaum (The EVERGREEN) and consider that this song could well have been written by John Wilkes Booth.it refers to the Ringold, and also the old line families of Howard and Carroll.they fought in Civil War as well as Revolutionary War. Much is written in music which is not recorded in history. Nobody is ever going to convince me that Bill Clinton could ever be mistaken for a Southern Gentlemanrich or poor, a gentleman is a gentleman. Most of the old true blue Klansmen and Knights were Greek and Latin Scholars - men of honor. John Randall wrote the words of this song, Maryland - and this was and still is, the Mother State to many. I was raised in a home where my mother really believed Damn Yankee was one wordand there was nothing worse than a black republican (this is not a racial reference) http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/usa/thedespo.htm
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo according to Sherman S.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/27/99 3:53:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Well, good ol' Sherman Skolnick was on for the last hour of Sightings > last night. Turns out not one single person knows what is really going > on. It's about . well, listen to the archive for yourself. > > DECLARA Could you post the URL Jim DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John Wilkes Booth - A Brutus of His Age
-Caveat Lector- Supposedly, Golden Circle, Knights of, were Southern Gentleman.there was a time the carpetbaggers and lacky blacks took advantage of the southern families, most of whom lost everything during the Civil War thanks to Sherman.his march through Georgia, was something my mothers family never forgot. There was a regiment in Georgia - RingoldI only know what I was told in this by familymy mother had Dixie played at her funeral, along with Alexander's Rag Time Band. Consult History of Georgia and military groups through the Daughters of the Confederacy, which has all the FACTS concerning the Civil War.but the Know nothings, the Knights of the Golden Circle, knew how to keep a secret.ask any Southern Mason. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John Wilkes Booth - A Brutus of His Age
-Caveat Lector- Do you know where I can find info in the Ringold Circle of Friends? I was born in Ringgold (spelled differently but I have been told was named for a Civil War Officer), Georgia. I have always wondered about that era. Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion
-Caveat Lector- Does the bible say that in so many words, those that were bitten by the snake lived; and is that why the AMA (American Medical Association) chose the Serpent and the Staff as a symbol? Could the devil have been a doctor; most believe, he was a lawyerand maybe even a misguided preacher rationalizing liberalism. Very interest story, Steven. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Shel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "x-contact" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 03:46:22 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[x-contact] Fw: Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] From: "Shel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Shel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 3:44 AM Subject: Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion >source: http://www.channel1.com/users/cci/reptiles.html The bible frequently refers to demons and devils as serpents or serpentine creatures which live within the earth (stating the obvious). Ancient Hebrew religious texts refer to the serpent of the garden of Eden as "Nachash", which many Hebrew scholars contend was a bipedal or hominid reptile of great intelligence. Consider why a serpent would be the biblical animal in Genesis that tempted Eve. It is also known through studies of evolution that the limbs of many reptile species atrophied over time, as the creatures lost the need for them. The bible speaks SPECIFICALLY of how the serpent from the garden was cursed to crawl upon it's belly AFTER it's actions with the Adamic race. That would obviously indicate that the infamous serpent of the garden walked upright! >From earliest days, the serpent symbol is to be seen in many parts of the world, but undoubtedly the most fascinating portrayal is a detail on an Egyptian "magical" papyrus in the British Museum depicting a serpent encompassed by a ray-emitting disk. Old Testament: NUMBERS 21:6: "And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, and much people of israel died." (What is a fiery serpent???) Nagas are from ancient Indian mythology. They are described as humanoid lizards or serpents. In the earliest works they ranked with gods, but later they got demonised. They were not originally considered hostile to "mortals". This is from texts 10 to 15 thousand years old. In those days even mortals could come and go between "heaven" and Earth. But when the gods withdrew from the affairs of man the Nagas retreated to great underground cities where they guard their privacy. Quetezecoatl was the feathered serpent of South American fame. He was a culture bearer and law giver. He is sometimes depicted flying on a rocket! SERPENTS in CELTIC MYTHOLOGY: Serpents and dragons appearance was always followed by strife and infertility. SERPENTS IN THE GNOSTIC TEXTS: There are three powers: the High God, who is most powerful; Elohim, the male God and co-creator with his female partner; and Edem/Eden, the goddess associated with the Earth, half maiden and half serpent, who creates the cosmos with Elohim. Sint Holo (Sint-holo):excerpted from http://www.pantheon.org/mythica/articles/s/sint_holo.html by Gerald Musinsky Sint Holo is an invisible, great horned serpent, having spiritual and cultural significance among the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw and adjacent tribes. This "snake" might reveal its presence to any male youth who had demonstrated a marked degree of wisdom or intelligence beyond his peers. According to certain but vague accounts, Sequoya, regarded as the primary inventor and developer of the Cherokee written language, "must have seen Sint Holo, the horned reptile" in order to create the alphabet for the Cherokee. Deep in a cave below the water, Sint Holo dwelled. He brought on heavy rains and could make a noise like thunder but could not make thunder, like the Thunderer spirit, its enemy. Only to those who showed they were wiser than the others, would he show himself and offer his old wisdom. American Indians: The American Indians have a creation legend that says they came out of caves underground while the 'reptile people' were banished to underground. On July 14th, 1974 an article by Stoney Brakefield appeared in the Pennsylvania newspaper, NEWS EXTRA, reporting an incident which allegedly took place in 1944 near this small coal mining town. A mining inspector and a fellow investigator had been called upon to examine a mining cave-in. About fifteen men had been killed in the incident. When they arrived and began to dig, they almost immediately uncovered the first body beneath debris that should not have been sufficient to kill the man. Laceration marks -- as though from claws -- were found all over the corpse. Similar marks were found on many of others and some of the bodies could not be located. Apparently the mining inspectors dug through the debris and began to follow a passage for about a half mile in search of the other men. Eventually they came to a room which seemed to be the end of the shaft. At this point, far up the tunnel behind them, there was another cave-in. A follow up team was immediately sent in to find the inspect
[CTRL] Fwd: The Minstrel Boy
Thought of you when I played this song; tis is Murphy's a good place for a Bard. Ever hear of the Bard from Armagh (that is spelled wrong) - This is a nice site with a lot of Irish songs...The Bard from Armagh is the tune we call Streets of Laredo.but mighty ducks still drop the bombs do they not. http://www.alltel.net/~dmurphy595/mboy.html
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/27/99 9:39:34 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << am not Roman Catholic. While I understand your position on this I do not agree with it. I do not believe that the Lord sends people to hell for wanting to be out of agony. My God is a kind and understanding God. I am a Christian and not once in the Bible does it ever mention suicide or killing yourself. I don't know where you get your info from but it is not the bible. Dr. Erebus >> Doc: God is all good, all love, but He is the judge at death time! He didn't give Ten Commandments for nothing! He said thou shalt not kill, its as simple as that! God Bless Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/27/99 9:55:13 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << what do you tell the relatives of the 5 people who suffered from depression, who had NO terminal illness, that Dr Jack disposed of? Dr Jack was a sometime-pathologist, NEVER a "people doctor" he seems to have developed an obsession with death along with the onset of old age .Nurses, under Drs orders, every day of the week, jack up the amt of morphine in a terminal patients IV-- they jack it up, in the end, knowing it causes respiratory depression--unlike Dr. Jack, they have spent many yrs dealing with PEOPLE, not in a cold pathology lab, but working with the families--and--they dont seek fame, they dont paint strange and shizo drawings, they dont want to be on the cover of Time-Dr Jack deserves what he gets--Sorry! Drs can be serial killers too! >> Right on Liz! Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Take the "World's Smallest Political Quiz"
-Caveat Lector- Been there. I was left-libertarian if you can believe that. Pretty good for a Theocracist, huh :-) Edward ><> At 10:21 PM 3/27/99 -0800, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Find out where you stand politically at: > >http://www.self-gov.org/index.html > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton ><> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FWD: They're Pals Now
-Caveat Lector- > Milosevic in arms pact with Saddam, 28 March 1999 > By Con Coughlin > > > Milosevic and Saddam plot joint revenge > > PRESIDENT Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia and Iraq's Saddam Hussein >have > joined forces in an alliance to help them continue their defiance >of allied air > strikes. > > In a dramatic development which poses a serious challenge to the >West, two > of the world's most reviled dictators have agreed a mutual >assistance pact to > enable them to withstand the effects of allied bombing raids. > > Last night a Foreign Office spokesman said: "We are aware of the >reports > that there is a connection between the Iraqi and the Serbian >regimes. We > believe that they are accurate and based on good information. >Obviously this > is a cause for concern and demonstrates the sort of company that >Milosevic is > now keeping." > > Milosevic and Saddam have authorised their officials to work >closely to fulfil > their joint goal of shooting down allied aircraft involved in >bombing raids > against Serbia and Iraq. Their alliance was initiated shortly >before Nato > commanders last week launched Operation Allied Force, when a Serbian > delegation visited Baghdad earlier this month... > see http://www.telegraph.co.uk -->snip> Regards, -A http://www.erols.com/mack97 "The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
