Re: [CTRL] Seeking Reviews
-Caveat Lector- Hello Quentin, Unfortunately, government is cast in an impossible role. First, it must act under the orders of the financial Lords- who for some unGodly reason seem to absolutely require humans to live in some form of degradation or slavery. When I was a child, it was still common for children to have a Mother to come home to. NOW- that is pretty much a faded memory of "good 'ole days" ... as every family has parents (or a SINGLE parent- marriage itself an "economic" casualty) who are both working, sometimes working two jobs or long overtime, or "salaried" jobs that pay for a week's work and require 60 or 70 hours. Second, it must try to keep people fooled about this first fact, by trying to keep them focussed on "the children" , "the terrorists" , "the drug-dealers", "the pedophiles" , etc which is incredibly and blatantly cynical, as a study of CIA covert ops would quickly reveal. If there are any honest politicians with true human desires to benefit their fellows (allow me to doubt this somewhat, while still maintaining enough hope to take the trouble of answering you)... he or she would spare NO EFFORT to bring "family values" HOME by creating a financial climate in which the average (no, even the below-average, even the "disadvantaged") family would be given the opportunity to LIVE as a family- for tiny infants to have the opportunity of sharing with their mothers the mutual love that is the most valuable thing in this life. People who are only concerned with "bottom line" and political donations are unlikely to care. More likely to fund phoney books by phoney authors downplaying the importance of a person's childhood on his development as a human being, and point to this sort of obvious nonsense as "expert" opinion. How convenient, eh? Fully supports the socialism-cum-fascist welfare state that is currently being engineered by the political machinery in this painfully too-obvious grab for control of peoples children. Have you noticed that the schools are being used to attempt to push drugs (state sponsored prescription drugs) on children who are "discipline problems?" I am so disgusted by the two faced governments of today. No way to convey it strongly enough. Imagine your worst feelings of betrayal juxtaposed against a fuzzy headed warm patriotism it might have been possible to feel before the state-sponsored propaganda/education wore off ... funny thing is... the altruistic stuff about "separation of powers" , "bill of rights" , first-second-third-fourth amendments, etc makes a pretty good "cover story" of a "free country" .. but the reality of utterly corrupt courts has made a complete mockery of any concept of "JUSTICE" - the judiciary is bought with the same money that the congress is, the same money that the executive is- therefore, separation of powers is impossible... any independence from financial control is a concept superfluous to the Elite super-rich whose money purchases the seeming of "freedom" and is wielded under cover of that illusion as an immense all pervading weapon of social domination and control. Is the Governor interested in building any nice new prisons lately? Great place to cage up persons-made-slaves via undermining of "family values" in the first place, followed by purposeful crushing economic pressure, neighborhoods flooded with CIA imported hard drugs, heavy criminalization of minor drugs (while the CIA drug runners siphon an estimated $2billion per year from those set upon by the drug pushing) ... now the prisons themselves are being "privatized" (doublespeak) under the control of firms dominated by CIA and Military assets and agents. An entire economy the approximate aggregate size of the Pentagon's is the result, the prison/industrial complex- captive workforce for hire. The "land of the FREE" imprisons a greater percentage of it's population than any other country in the world. Very civilized, eh? The Spirit of the American people is not yet fully crushed- befuddled and hypnotized to some extent, it's true- but I believe that if the fascists in government push too fast with their NWO agendas (which of course include state creches for infant raising) that we may live to see civil war leading to a revolutionary coup-government. If you have any concern for your fellow man, forward this letter and these links to your friends in government- perhaps with some cogent remarks of your own, expressing your concern. ---LINKS-- Michael Levine: http://www.wbaifree.org/letemtalk/levine.html http://www.radio4all.org/expert/program.html According to Levine, "The only thing we know with certainty is that the drug war is not for real. The drug economy in the United States is as much as $200 billion a year, and it is being used to finance political operations and pay international debts-all sorts of things." The latest insider to "go public" is Michael Levine, who retired from the U.S. Drug
[CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19991109_xcsof_clinton_an.shtml Recently declassified documents from the FBI confirm that the Clinton administration approved the use of prostitutes for surveillance activities in 1993. Bill Clinton attended the 1993 APEC conference in Seattle along with Chinese President Jiang Zemin. The FBI documents show that Clinton's Secret Service reviewed information obtained from prostitutes whose clients were foreign officials. Allegations that the Clinton administration authorized the FBI to use prostitutes first surfaced in INSIGHT magazine. Investigative journalist Tim Maier wrote that under-age male and female prostitutes were being used to obtain intelligence information from foreign diplomats during the December 1993 Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) in Seattle Washington. In 1998, this reporter filed a Freedom of Information (FOIA) request, seeking all information on the use of prostitutes as agents during the 1993 APEC conference. In response, the FBI found a total of 250 pages of materials concerning the surveillance of foreign officials using prostitutes. According to the FBI, only 13 pages of the "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET" documentation could be released. Some of the documents not released by the FBI "originated with another Government agency." This reporter is appealing the FBI decision to withhold the documents. Many of the secret documents returned by the FBI were heavily blacked out by government censors. One such FBI "SECRET" document, dated November 1993, contains a partially blacked out passage, noting that the FBI needed to gather surveillance data "in ample time for the information to be disseminated to Secret Service and Department of State." Another secret November 1993 document, marked from "DIRECTOR FBI" to "FBI SEATTLE", directs the FBI office in Washington state to pay particular attention to a certain foreign "delegation" whose identity remains blacked out as secret. According to the heavily classified document, the "referenced communication provided information from a sensitive and reliable WF source." The FBI document noted that the "sensitive and reliable WF source" had provided some very important data on the unknown diplomats. According to the top secret materials, "this information advised of a possible" unspecified action. Just what that action was and which of the APEC delegations were under surveillance remains secret. The FBI determined that the unspecified action must remain classified, and it too is blacked out "in the interest of national security." Furthermore, the newly declassified documents state the FBI surveillance activities did not end with the APEC conference in 1993. Additional "TOP SECRET" FBI documents, dated in early 1995, shows that FBI agents continued to report and exploit unofficial sources of information on foreign diplomats. Many of the 1995 "Top Secret" documents are also marked "SCI" which stands for "Secured Compartmentalized Information." The "SCI" value enabled the documents to remain hidden inside special FBI vaults using the classification. Although much of the information found by the FBI is being withheld "in the interest of national defense," other whole sections are not being released because they "could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source." Yet, the question of whether the Clinton administration used minors as prostitutes to obtain intelligence information on foreign diplomats remains open for debate. The FBI documents are so heavily censored that much of the detailed information has simply not been made available. The FBI and the Dept. of Justice both declined to comment on the use of prostitutes as agents. However, Clinton administration law enforcement officials quietly admit that the use of prostitutes to obtain reliable information is a common police practice. Federal officials also admitted that the use of under-age or untrained civilians in intelligence operations poses a significant risk and may be illegal under some circumstances. According to the same law enforcement officials, the information obtained is so important to U.S. national security that all necessary means, including prostitution, must be exploited to obtain it. It is true that export sales may have been at risk during the 1993 APEC conference but few national security issues were involved. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? Some former Democrat supporters are not convinced it is correct for the U.S. government to go to such extremes for simple commercial espionage. Ms. Marie Jose-Ragab, President of the National Organization for Women (NOW) Dulles Virginia chapter, recently criticized the Clinton administration for "legitimizing" the
Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote: Dear Michael Spitzer, If want to know about Jesus and Close Encounters you should access:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/etvisit.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/closeenc.htm Thank you:) It's amazing what you can find on the net. MAN, it sure is! Peace be upon you, JAH. And you, my friend, Mike P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e., TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!! - Original Message - From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:10 AM Subject: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd) -Caveat Lector- [Sounds like this "Angel Scroll" may be describing where Jesus/Yashua just might/could have had a "Close Encounter of the Nth Kind," huh? --MS] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [endsecrecy] E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right'
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right' Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 11:23 AM From Skywatch; From: "Dunn, Steven J." [EMAIL PROTECTED] October 26 1999 The Times (London): E-mail Bill 'breaches privacy right' By Frances Gibb, Legal Editor PROPOSED new powers for the police to unscramble encoded e-mail messages are in breach of the Government's own laws on human rights, a report concludes. An audit by Justice, the human rights group, of the Electronic Communications Bill finds it to be defective and likely to breach human rights. The Bill, which is aimed at encouraging electronic commerce and online delivery of government services, also allows the police access to private e-mails. But an audit of the Bill by Justice, to see if it complies with the Human Rights Act 1998, shows that the Government has "wrongly opted" for the widest police powers, enabling open-ended interception of encrypted material. The legal opinion, obtained by Justice from Professor Jack Beatson, QC, a former Law Commissioner, and Tim Eicke, a barrister, says that this will have the inevitable consequence of compromising "the affected individual's whole security and privacy apparatus". Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer games accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1142 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/endsecrecy http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Deconstructing Public Enemy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/16507.html This is old but worth a read and has some links on the url. Deconstructing Public Enemy by Judy DeMocker 3:00 a.m. 26.Nov.98.PST The scariest implication in conspiracy thriller Enemy of the State is that technology isn't what's holding the US government back from spying on its citizens. Laws are. Pretty much every whiz-bang spying technology depicted in the movie, which opened in US theaters on 20 November, is possible today -- sophisticated satellite surveillance systems, accessibility of bank records, phone taps without warrants. And the movie's premise that national security can take precedence over the civil rights of law-abiding citizens, has hit a chord with viewers and filmmakers alike. "I want the audience when they leave the theater to be looking over their shoulders thinking, can this really happen? And I want them to believe that it can happen," said director Tony Scott in a prerecorded interview. The scenario of an innocent man being digitally hounded through tunnel and building, traced to pay phones and 7-Eleven surveillance systems, and exposed by a digital trail of personal information, is overblown. Most store cameras are not hooked up to outside systems, and databases are not so rapidly accessible that a government agent could pull up a suspect's past addresses, personal history, bank, and telephone records in the blink of an eye. "Overall, I think the movie overestimates how well databases are linked together, and the possibility of real-time record retrieval," said Marc Rotenberg, executive director at the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "But someday, it will be possible to conduct that type of constant surveillance of a target." The law protects citizens from being spied on in their homes. The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution establishes search and seizure limits. But as the world increasingly uses telecommunications and Internet technologies, the digital line between public and private has blurred. "The Fourth Amendment says we have a right to be free in our homes and our papers, but in terms of informational privacy, there's not explicit constitutional protection," said Cassidy Seghal, staff counsel on information issues for the American Civil Liberties Union. "Digital telephony creates the possibility for increased portals, so government can acquire the data much faster. Certainly real-time transmissions and interceptions are possible." Legal protection from surveillance is guaranteed under Title 3 laws, passed in 1968. But those laws haven't kept up with technological advances. For instance, government agencies can track people using low-level transmitters via satellite, as seen in the movie, and there are no laws governing it. And the laws around wiretapping have been weakened of late. "The laws are awful right now," said Lisa Dean, vice president for technology policy at the Free Congress Research and Education Foundation, in Washington. "Congress just passed a roving wiretap proposition that allows them to tap anyone in the vicinity of the person they've targeted." With telephone companies converting their systems from analog to digital, wiretapping has gotten faster and easier. Law enforcement agents no longer need to physically tap phone lines, and if they bypass the warrant process in the interests of national security, they can be listening in minutes, said the ACLU's Seghal. The know-it-all, ex-National Security Agency man in the movie, Brill, made a number of assertions that cross the line between reality and conspiracy theory. "There are 14 acres of mainframes under Fort Meade automatically taping and analyzing telephone conversations," said Brill, played by Gene Hackman. "The NSA may have acres of computers, but they're crunching numbers, not taping phone calls. The movie's marrying two facts together to make a false conclusion," said James Bamford, author of The Puzzle Palace, the authoritative history and profile of the National Security Agency. It's unlikely the NSA is taping phone calls within the country, Bamford said. The agency used to do some illegal taping in the '70s, but they've cleaned up their act since then, he said. "Technically, the government does have the capability to record and analyze the large percentage of the world's telecommunications. That's the NSA's main function," said James Dempsey, senior staff counsel for the Center for Democracy and Technology, in Washington. Within the United States, however, it is illegal for the government to do blanket recording of domestic conversations, and so they focus most of their eavesdropping efforts overseas, Dempsey said. Fort Meade is the hub of the Echelon satellite surveillance system, and its goal is to intercept fax, email, and voice communications, said Dean, of the Free Congress Foundation. "It probably is illegal, but they can do it," she said. "The NSA can read the time off your watch," Brill
[CTRL] 'Bo' Gritz and Operation Watchtower (1/1)
-Caveat Lector- "I have accepted money on contract work for the CIA, but not with the same mercenary intent as Secord. " I didn't have any idea at the time that the checks received were from [a front used by] Albert Hakim, Ollie North, Dick Secord, or any of the rest of them. I [agreed because] was asked by a trusted person in the State Department. "I was knowledgeable about Operation Watchtower. "My best friend, A.J. Baker, commanded the first Watchtower mission, which involved CIA aircraft flying cocaine from Bolivia to Alford Air Force Base in Panama. "Everyone associated with it has been killed except myself. "People aren't disposed to give me threats face-to-face ... [but I received] a telephone call wherein the caller [warned me] that the Israeli Mossad figured in the death of three Special Forces Colonels. Three of them had knowledge of Watchtower; I was number four But nothing has happened [to me] ... "I worked with the Mossad, I know them a little bit. "I'm still alive, so, obviously, I haven't been targeted well -- if I've been targeted at all." Militia Leader Talks Bo Gritz Interrogated by Adam Parfrey Extracted from New Dawn No.30 (May-June, 1995) One does not converse with Bo Gritz; like Moses or some ancient lawgiver, information flows out in one direction, garrulously, entertainingly, but in a fashion that seems almost rehearsed. Meeting Gritz is like greeting the incarnation of Jake LaMotta, a former warrior who now must entertain to make a living. The following interview was conducted shortly in February, 1993, at Gritz's suburban-style ranch home in a sparsely-populated canyon one hour's drive West from Los Vegas. Parked in front of his house is a twin-engine Cessna; his other plane was undergoing repair in San Diego. Gritz was winding down from the 1992 Presidential Campaign, in which he garnered over 100,000 write-in votes despite seemingly suicidal decisions, such as refusing to appear on Larry King's television program - the same show that launched Ross Perot - because Gritz didn't want to disappoint supporters at a Liberty Lobby luncheon. Gritz's campaign contrasted his Vietnam War heroics to give credence to his anti-Federal Government diatribes, in which he accused the CIA of acting in concert with Pentagon officials for peddling dope for money and influence. He likewise blamed high officials for deliberately sabotaging several Rambo-like rescues of MIAs. These revelations apparently turned Gritz into an anti-government activist, and he shared his information with the Christic Institute and other liberal watchdog groups. After becoming a sort of folk hero in Idaho by talking Christian Identity believer Randy Weaver into peacefully surrendering to authorities after federal snipers killed his wife and son, Gritz decided to create a community named "Almost Heaven" near Kamiah, Idaho, in which like-minded patriots would construct homes and practice survival techniques, including preparation for government invasions. Needless to say, leftist activists, government authorities and the mass media are quick to condemn Gritz's community as a haven for apocalyptic cultists, another Waco waiting to happen. Gritz asserts that his community will strictly observe the Constitution, and is a logical defense against taking on the mark of the beast and other such impositions created by the New World Order. -- Adam Parfrey Q: What was your larger purpose in writing "Called to Serve?" A: It's not what we did in Vietnam that's important - there were some lessons to be learned so we don't repeat them. But the fact that the government has been involved in illegal narcotics trafficking, literally overdosing our own people, not third world target audiences, as we would expect, I think is important. If I can get people to understand it better and accept it better by trying to take them from how I got involved in Special Forces to current time then so be it. Q: As an insider or former insider, what precipitated your decision to criticize the government? A: One is common sense, consciousness. On the far right you find people like Dick Secord. I know Richard Secord. He was a Major-General in the United States Air Force. He was a chief attache and knew the Shah of Iran personally. I worked for Secord's boss, Erich von Marbod, who still hasn't been uncovered, except when Ed Wilson was determined to have been a person selling tons of explosives to Qadhafi, and identified both Secord and von Marbod as conspirators along with Ollie North, everyone got the axe except North. Von Marbod had to resign his super government position; Secord had to give up being a General. But it didn't mean they gave up the business. You have General Secord, who has on public record. Playboy magazine, for example, said he deserved the $8 million dollars he made in selling the Ayatollah Khomeini missiles, for all his hard
[CTRL] 'Bo' Gritz and Operation Watchtower (2/2)
-Caveat Lector- Militia Leader Talks Bo Gritz Interrogated by Adam Parfrey Extracted from New Dawn No.30 (May-June, 1995) CONT'D Q: You trained Special Forces that went into Jonestown? What was the precise nature of the operation? A: I don't know precisely because it was a compartmentalized operation. The only thing that I do know for certain is what the Sergeant I quote said coming out of Jonestown. He was insistent, because he was disgusted, on writing this book. He was, without compromise, going to call it 'All the Niggers Are Dead'. I asked him, "Why would you want to entitle anything such an offensive way?" He said, "It doesn't make a difference what your color, your creed, your sex," he said, "when you are treated the way they were, that's what you are, you're a nigger, you're nothing else." I think that those soldiers saw things that affected them and made them very angry. I've seen other things like that in combat where there have been abuses. I wrote about one of them in my book where the Captain tortured the young girl severely and the young Sergeant put on a swastika and said "If I'm going to act like a Nazi I'm going to look like one." I think that the same kind of negative impact occurred in Jonestown. A few weeks ago there was a report out of Montreal about people winning cases against the CIA because they were utterly abused in the mental health clinic that was set up by the CIA in Canada. That all came down under Allen Dulles tried to make a Manchurian Candidate. I think the Jonestown incident was an extension of In Search of the Manchurian Candidate, I think those people were conditioned to act in certain ways and would have probably just moved from Montreal to Guyana, in this case. You look at Jim Jones' background carefully, he had a lot of intelligence contact there for doing exactly what he did. Q: Did it go haywire? A: Of course it went haywire. God be praised, just like the Montreal Health Institute, it self-destructs because it's not good in its essence. Most of these folks involved were street people, so they didn't have people who knew where they were or were concerned about their well-being. It escalated once they killed congressman Leo J. Ryan; basically, they had no other way to go, so they just tried to self-destruct the whole mission. And that means the death of hundreds of people. As I point out in the book, the medical examiner there made some startling statements, and we wouldn't even allow the bodies to be properly examined when they were brought back in to the East Coast and turned in. So obviously it was a cover-up. Jonestown I think was an extension of MK-ULTRA from the CIA and there are probably other experiments going on. Q: Were Special Forces down there as it went haywire? A: No, I think the Special Forces units were pulled together as an exterminator after it had reached a point where they had to destroy the evidence. Those teams were called on many times. We had what we called Disaster Area survey teams. They were put together and designed and to leave on a moment's notice. If you had an earthquake, and there were many of them in Managua, Nicaragua, Guatemala, you instantly dispatch those teams. Special Forces teams were trained to go into these areas and to be dropped in by helicopter, rappel if needs be, or parachute, and work their way back and make surveys. In this case instead of surveying for physical, meaning nature's, damage, they were surveying for human presence and mop up any that might have escaped. Allen Dulles is dead, but that doesn't mean that the idea of controlling people's minds and behavior is dead, and I still think that is a goal. And when you look at what I believe is a tilt for Global Government you see where that would be even more intensified now. We had gas, for example, this was way back in the late 50s, early 60s, we had gas that you could use that could completely change people's desire to fight or to flee. The army's chemical-biological warfare research labs, I think that kind of stuff still goes on. They have to have human guinea pigs to practice on because animals other than human do not produce the kind of comprehensive results that they need. So when it comes down to human behavior, they probably take street people. There are kids missing off the streets of America every year. Some of them may end up being sold for body parts down in Guadalajara, Mexico, and a few other places for rich people who don't want to wait in line for organ transplants. And some of them undoubtedly end up in Satanic rituals. But many of these ritualistic abuses may really be governmental operations. I think MK-ULTRA exists today. [The foregoing 'interview' was abridged from a much more comprehensive piece, with commentary, that appears in Adam Parfrey's book "Cult Rapture." Mr. Parfrey's interview should in no way be construed as an endorsement of Bo Gritz or any of his
[CTRL] Who is opening up the world grid lines? 2/10
-Caveat Lector- Hecate? Last I heard the British Govt occultists were doing rituals to Hecate at the stone circles. You may want to check out a few other pages on this site to get the Pleiadian connection. He mentions Maitrya as an Et on another page.Got some of those bug eyed greys pictured too. Nicky http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/egypt.htm The Egyptian Connection Welcome to what Stargate research looks like at its CRUDE, initial level ~ however, though everything shared is now outdated ~ I believe the collection of samples offered here will show that we are on the road to some VERY interesting discoveries ... maybe you want to join in the research. Ancient Egyptian records translate the Pleiades as "Krittikas" , "female judges of mankind" - they primarily equated them as the Seven Hathors, whom the dead had to remember and speak the names of those Goddesses to pass their examination to enter the ancient Egyptian perception of paradise, which was in the distant stars ... Modern Egyptians relate to the Pleiades as the Seven Midwives1. In archaic seven-gated Thebes, the Pleiades were represented by Seven Mantic Priestesses, who were linked to the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, an era when the Seven Hathors ruled over a rather grim calendar cycle which had the Sacred King slain every seventh year2. In ancient Europe, the Pleiadian May to November cycle was represented by the Maytime feast of life and the November feast of death ... Though quite obviously frowned upon by the early church in that era, upon All Souls Day (November first), prayers for the dead were recited in the direction of the Pleiades3 (a somewhat obvious archaic hold-over/link to the Egyptian ritual of the dead, which included, speaking the names of the Seven Hathors to enter the paradise in the distant stars) And yes, there is even a link to the Bible. The Lord challenged Job : "Canst thou bind the sweet influence of the Pleiades ?", Job 3:31. Also, there is a vein of historical research that speculates that, in pre-patriarchal Jerusalem, the Menorah (the 7 branched candlestick) originally symbolized the Pleiades in their aspect of the sevenfold "Men-horac"/"Moon Priestesses, with links once again to the Goddess Hathor"4 which returns us once again to 7 ladies and the Pleiades. Yet, I still lacked the Egyptian-connection. The eye is a well known symbol of ancient Egypt - however, surface material credit the eye to Horus or Ra. Yet, even in that patriarchal period, that specific eye , so important a part of Egyptian symbolism was specifically described as a female judge, the Goddess Sekhmet, "I am the all-seeing Eye of Horus, whose appearance strikes terror, Lady of Slaughter, Mighty One". If there seems to be an incongruity, in that the eye symbol of this Lioness of Slaughter is also the symbol for Egyptian medicine , the answer lies in the fact that the Egyptian symbol for the Priesthood of Sekhmet and the Egyptian symbol for doctor were interchangeable. Then I moved back to the root source. In ancient Egypt, the Mother-syllable "Maa" meant "to see", its hieroglyph was the eye - a matter which overlapped with the fact that the Egyptian All- Seeing-Eye originally belonged to Maat, the Goddess of Judgment . Remember Maat well, she is one of the connecting keys to Stargate - and the other is Sekhmet. ... The next stop on this retracing of a quest was a matter of pure fate and, one part Indiana Jones to three parts, dumb comedy ... It began at the end of several boring days of museum research in Cairo - the Egyptian Museum contains the best and most extensive collection of Egyptian artifacts in the world, but I prefer studying artifacts in the field, not in glass cases. So, I gave myself a morning off, then noted it was Friday - which made it the correct time to visit the Camel Market (Suq al Gimaal), a relatively short bus ride to Imbaba. Like everyone else who has traveled a bit in deserts, I have a love-hate relationship with camels - however, the camel market is the best of places to get away from tourists and city people. After an hour of re-connecting with the desert people, I noticed a most unique woman in the crowd. She not only wore no veil, there was a strange tattoo on her chin. As I approached closer, I was shocked - this mysterious desert woman was wearing a tattoo in Ogham. I ran forward, and in my excitement, I began shouting out the word tattooed on her chin. The air resounded with uvulations (the high pitched trill that desert women make when celebrating or in distress). Within seconds, I was surrounded by a number of other women with tattooed chins. However, my excitement about reading Ogham had dimmed considerably. One could more easily read murder in the eyes of each lady and several held dagger like sickles that collectively read, "your literary days are just about over ... Luckily, and only by seconds, several old traveling buddies emerged out of the surrounding crowd - they dragged me away with rapid
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 04:58:22 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allegations that the Clinton administration authorized the FBI to use prostitutes first surfaced in INSIGHT magazine. Investigative journalist Tim Maier wrote that under-age male and female prostitutes were being used to obtain intelligence information from foreign diplomats during the December 1993 Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) in Seattle Washington. Yet, the question of whether the Clinton administration used minors as prostitutes to obtain intelligence information on foreign diplomats remains open for debate. Federal officials also admitted that the use of under-age or untrained civilians in intelligence operations poses a significant risk and may be illegal under some circumstances. According to the same law enforcement officials, the information obtained is so important to U.S. national security that all necessary means, including prostitution, must be exploited to obtain it. ... The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SYMBOLS Delos
-Caveat Lector- The Cross is the symbol of the planet Nibiru, it means crossingit is the planet of the Annunaki. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Man allegedly threatened to blow up Mount Rushmore (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991110/22/crime-rushmore Man allegedly threatened to blow up Mount Rushmore Updated 10:48 PM ET November 10, 1999 DENVER (Reuters) - A Colorado man was charged Wednesday with using the Internet to send a threat to blow up Mount Rushmore and a federal building to draw attention to his dissatisfaction with the legal system. A criminal complaint filed by the FBI against Larry Driver of Aurora, Colorado, a Denver suburb, also alleged that he had threatened to go on a "killing spree" in Denver. Driver, 46, identified himself as a retired Army sergeant recently ordered by a divorce court "to pay half of his military pension to his ex-wife," FBI agent Mark Holstlaw said in an affidavit. He said Driver told agents he first made threats in August "to get someone to listen" to his frustration with the legal system and the agents warned him that criminal charges would be pursued if he persisted in making threats. The agent said Driver resumed making threats two weeks ago, sending them as e-mail via the Internet to a Denver radio talk show host. Driver said "he meant for his threatening statements to be taken seriously," Holstlaw said. The prosecutor, Assistant U.S. Attorney Linda McMahan, said she could not comment on whether Driver had explosives or guns. Driver did not threaten a particular federal building, a spokesman for U.S. Attorney Thomas Strickland said. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OT: Pat Robertson is Ready for the Revolution (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- ROBERTSON URGES REVOLT, TELLS VIEWERS: "THROW OFF THE SHACKLES" OF THE COURTS On his TV "700 Club" broadcast today, TV preacher Pat Robertson called on viewers to revolt against the Supreme Court and "throw off the shackles of this dictatorship that's been imposed on us." Robertson made his remarks in his commentary following a news story from Kentucky, where seven school districts have reportedly posted copies of the Ten Commandments in public schools in defiance of court rulings banning such postings as unconstitutional. Robertson likened these events in Kentucky to the American Revolution. He said: "Ladies and gentlemen, I want to say this very clearly. If the people of the United States of America - all across America, in their churches and in their civic groups and in their legislatures - decide that they're not going to allow the Supreme Court to dominate their lives in the fashion that it has in this nation, the Supreme Court does not have the power to change that. They are not going to be able to overturn the will of a hundred million American people. And I think the time has come that we throw off the shackles of this dictatorship that's been imposed upon us. "We had a war in 1776 that set us free from the shackles of the arbitrary rule of the British crown, and I think what's going in Corbin, Kentucky, boy, those people like to live free. And I think the time has come that we do that." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Connections To The Pleiades. Stargate/grid opening 3/10
-Caveat Lector- http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/tara.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/tara.htm Connections To The Pleiades. By Mark Roberts. http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/starquiz.htm (Better do the 75 question quiz to see if you are going to have a second coming if so send this dude $7 and he'll book you in as a Pleiadian descendant and you're in! It does sound a bit weird but these people have welcomed the Pleiadians to earth to connect us with their star system through some star gate. Worth checking out all his pages which tie in the occult ceremonies they are doing to bring back the pagan gods. Innana returns etc. Remember the Montauk people were into Innanna from the Pleiades..and Montauk is run by the Nazis. http://home.earthlink.net/~pleiadesx/index.htm These are presumably the Brotherhood and Sisterhood of Light ETs that the rest of these New Agers talk of that are going to be taking over the earth for the new millenium. They exit the 12 portals, opened artificially by occult rituals, corn circles or by nuclear bombs that Bruce Cathie has found out about? Depends what you read - anyway someone is trying to open the gridlines. I notice a lot of these people involved with the portal openings say things like: we should be gaia/goddess worshipers : we are descendants of ETs or they created us in labs: the 6th Aryan race will be the only people going into the next dimension; the ETs are going to activate cellular memory in us when the world raises vibration when the Mayan calendar indicates the end is nighetc Hard to pick out what exactly is going on but presumably the Pleiadian descendants are the new Aryan/Nordic root race and they will be the only ones who survive the dimensional shift that they have been working on to activate. They are going to somehow raise the vibrations of the body, by opening the world's chakras and this will somehow make the chosen one's chakras open and they go with the flow into a different frequency. Please corrrect me if I'm wrong. Nicky) By Mark Roberts. In 1994, a fictional movie, titled "Stargate" arrived on the scene - I could hardly avoid taking a look at what Hollywood had created from the word Stargate. Afterwards, those who knew of my research were quick to ask my thoughts on the movie. I smiled and replied that I had been provided with the perfect opening for my research report, "If you liked the movie, you will love the reality." However, I and all concerned, knew the matter ran much deeper than a catchy phrase - the word Stargate had become the merging point between fiction and reality. The cinema Stargate was an ancient time-dimensional doorway to the cosmos - with knowledge of ancient writings and star constellations as the keys to opening the gate ...The reality Stargate is an ancient depiction of a cosmic-portal painted at the entry to a cave containing one of the most ancient representation of the constellation known as the Pleiades. Which returns us to the purpose of this particular sharing ~ to give you an overview of the director of the Stargate Research Team ... There is MUCH more, such as the fact that within a contact in this decade, my blood type was changed from O- to O+ ~ Every clue leads to the conclusion that the prime cosmic connection ~ is not a collection of little green men ~ rather, a cosmic Sisterhood from the Pleiades Sirius. The prime sharing time ~ with virtually every ancient culture on this planet ~ was in the earth era of the Matriarchies. At least, in regard to the cosmic sisterhood, the intent of the visitors is peaceful. The tales of abductions sticking things up peoples noses is far to rude crude for the sisterhood . However, ancient prophecies modern translations from England's crop symbols confirm that now is the end of an era ~ the era of the patriarchies ... Though it may not be a good time for male-chauvinists, in regard to fears about the incoming year 2000 ~ the title page for the last chapter in Mark's book says it all ~ "The light at the end of the tunnel - is not an oncoming train". Was that your first view of the false veneer that patriarchy has placed upon the truth? If you choose to join us, you shall learn that this veneer covers much of the planet. That a prime aspect of this era of transformation is connected to a series of discoveries of the first original history of each culture. Now, onto the task of connecting the links. Obviously, the link of primary importance to Stargate research is the connection to the Pleiades. A FULL study of the global connections to the Pleiades is a major study of our research team. The best brief overview is on page 7 of our study text, The Quest for Stargate ~ exemplified in the writings of R.G. Haliburton, in the journal titled Nature (December, 1881 issue). Even back then, he was able to gather sufficient information
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On 11 Nov 99, at 6:50, Das GOAT wrote: .. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Wouldn't it be interesting if Clinton got to take the fall for thiswhich has been going on for decades, certainly through the two previous Republican administrations --if not forever. I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:14:29 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e., TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!! I agree, Mike! The site of our friend JAH is very interesting. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 9:12:00 AM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. Clinton certainly did not invent them. I suspect he isn't a patsy, though, mostly because of Yugoslavia. An acquaintance told me long ago that you just don't get to be Prez anymore unless you're part of the Big Game. I suspect she's right. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: First Union Corp
From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Purchase from the U.S. Government of the Little-Inch and Big-Inch oil and gas pipelines E. Holley Poe went to Dillon Read's offices in New York, where he made contact with August Belmont IV. When asked why he had selected Dillon Read rather than some other investment bank, Poe shrugged his shoulders, and as Belmont later recalled, replied that someone had told him about the firm. "D-R has always been one of the biggest houses down here for underwriting natural gas corporation issues. In fact, before the war, in 1935, it had handled a private placement for $16 million of Northern Natural Gas bonds, selling them to insurance companies." Among Texas Eastern's initial owners, who raised $1,350,000 were TexansE. Holley Poe, Everett De Golyer, and Herman and George Brown, the last named Houston construction men who were to receive important contracts from TETCO. The new companys attorneys, Vinson, Elkins, Weems, and Francis, provided $27,000. Dillon Read took a $317,000 interest, quite a sizable amount of money for a firm which always insisted on using other peoples money in its deals Dillon Read then raised another $4 million from Manufacturers Trust, which also provided a $3 million construction loan. On February 10, 1947, TETCO bid $143,127,000, nearly twice the highest bid made earlier, and $12 million more than the next highest of the six bids. Once TETCO won the bid, Belmont, descendant of Rothschilds first agent in the United States, had nine months to obtain $134.5 million in funds. He issued $120 million in 25-year bonds at 3.5%, which were placed with insurance companiesMet Life and Prudential ($36 million each) and New England Mutual ($1.5 million). A little over 3.5 million shares were offered by a large group of underwriters that brought in almost $34 million. Three New York banks set up a line of credit for TETCO. Manufacturers Trust (Manufacturers Hanover) was headed at that time by Horace Flanigan, who was also a director of Union Oil, both of which were clients of Dillon Read, as was Anheuser-Busch (headquartered in St. Louis), which was controlled by the family of Flanigans wife. Their son, Peter Flanigan went to work at Dillon Read in 1947, right out of Princeton and the Navy. From 1949 to 1951 he took a leave of absence to work for the government in London, which in later years gave him many contacts for European placements. Dillon Read (formerly Vermilye Co.) was an old investment banking firm with connections to Union Trust and Merchants Bank of New York. In 1876 the firm came into the hands of Donald Mackay, who served on a number of corporate boards, including Merchants National Bank and the Harriman National Bank. A few years later, William A. Read joined the firm, and in 1890 joined with August Belmont Co. to do some underwriting. Then in 1896 he worked on the Baltimore Ohios reorganization committee with representatives from J.P. Morgan, Kuhn Loeb, Hallgarten, and Belmont. By 1902 William Read owned 2/5 of the firm and Donald and George D. Mackay together owned just over 1/3. After a partnership feud, Mackay Co. was organized at 14 Wall Street and Wm. A. Read Co. at 25 Nassau Streetfirst floor of the Equitable Life Assurance Society, "next door to Belmont Co., its closet associate." (p. 27). The associates were Joseph H. Seaman, W.M.L. Fiske and Charles Hazard. In 1912 the Equitable Building was destroyed by fire, and the firm moved to 28 Nassau. Clarence Dillon joined the firm as a bond salesman in 1914. He was born to a Polish Jewish immigrant (Samuel Lapowski) who lived in San Antonio, married a Swedish Lutheran, and opened a dry goods store in Texas. Clarence Dillon went to Harvard, where he became a close friend of Armin Schlesinger, whose father manufactured mill machinery in Milwaukee and offered Dillon a job in his companiesNewport Mining Co. and Milwaukee Coke Coal Co. In Wisconsin he met his wife, Anne Douglass, whose brother had founded the Milwaukee Machine Tool Company in which Clarence Dillon bought a half interest and became president. It was through the management and liquidation of this business that he met William A. Read and became his protege. Through his connections in Milwaukee and Michigan, he garnered business from machinery and automobile manufacturing companies like Chrysler and Dodge. Another member of Dillon, Read was James V. Forrestal, who had been at Princeton with Ferdinand Eberstadt and Dean Mathey, nephew of D-R partner Fiske. Forrestal had gone to work, through the help of his friend Robert Christie, for the American Tobacco Company before Mathey talked him into working for Read just after World War I. The firm worked with J.P. Morgan and Brown Brothers in organizing American Foreign Securities (AFS) to handle underwritings for loans the company would make to Americas war allies. Robert Bacon, who had been with Morgan, was appointed president of
Re: [CTRL] Pollsters' Dirty Little Secrets
-Caveat Lector- Thanks a lot for this post. Hope all is well. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [endsecrecy] US Releases Project Paperclip Documents
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] US Releases Project Paperclip Documents Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 8:50 PM From: Stig Agermose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SO] US Releases Documents On 'Project Paperclip' Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:43:59 Source: Associated Press via APB Multimedia Inc., http://www.apbnews.com:80/media/gfiles/1999/11/03/nazis1103_01.html U.S. Releases Nazi Documents Papers Could Shed Light on War Crimes Nov. 3, 1999 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A government panel has released 126,000 pages of previously classified documents that could shed light on Nazi-era war crimes. The panel still has almost 600 million pages more to review. In the first report of its three-year project, the group said agencies such as the FBI and CIA have searched their records for names, code words and other information relating to possible Nazi-era war crimes, criminals and looted assets. They reported coming up with 600 million pages of information, which must be reviewed to determine if they should be declassified. It is estimated that about 5 percent -- 30 million pages -- might prove useful to fill in holes in U.S. annals relating to issues such as postwar use of Nazi criminals' expertise. "I wouldn't say we have any smoking guns," said former Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman, a member of the panel -- formally the Nazi War Criminal Records Interagency Working Group. Postwar activities of German scientists Holtzman said the panel wants to hire a historian "so we can explain to the American people the significance of the material that's being found." The panel was formed a year ago as part of the 1998 Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act, which ordered the government to declassify thousands of documents about the Holocaust dating from the beginning of the Cold War. Federal agencies have resisted opening the files for half a century, telling historians, journalists, lawmakers and Holocaust survivors that national security was at stake. Supporters say the panel's work provides an opportunity to reveal how U.S. intelligence agencies and others used Nazi war criminals in the Cold War years. Of the 126,000 pages declassified in the first year of its work, 80,000 deal with "Project Paperclip," in which the government brought over German scientists, some of whom later were identified as war criminals and sent home, said a statement released Monday by the National Archives. Related Stories: *Government Nazi Hunters Still on the Prowl *Hitler's Most Brutal Killers *G-FILES REPORTS © Copyright 1999 APB Multimedia Inc. All rights reserved. Imagine a credit card with a 0% Intro APR and Instant Approval It seems impossible, but its not. Visit GetSmart.coms Credit Card Finder and click on instant approval cards right now at http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1272 -- Talk to your group with your own voice! -- http://www.egroups.com/VoiceChatPage?listName=endsecrecym=1 Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] OEN 11/11/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - New World Disorder Clinton Is Afraid of Greece The mad bomber of Yugoslavia discovers the Greeks don't like no freaks. WASHINGTON - Security concerns and the prospect of violent protests led President Bill Clinton on Wednesday to delay and shorten a scheduled trip to Greece. The White House said that at the recommendation of the Greek government, Mr. Clinton, instead of traveling to Greece this weekend for a two-night stay, would go there Nov. 19-20 for a visit of about 24 hours. Mr. Clinton is highly unpopular in Greece, a NATO member whose public was outraged at NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. Many have also long resented perceived U.S. support for the 1967-1974 military junta in Greece and for doing nothing to stop Turkey from invading and dividing Cyprus in 1974. A series of violent incidents and plans for mass protests have prompted an increase in security in Athens, ahead of Mr. Clinton's visit. Earlier on Wednesday, four makeshift gas canister bombs exploded outside a car dealership in central Athens in what appeared to be another protest against the Clinton visit. Greek leftists had planned large demonstrations against Mr. Clinton, and several guerrilla groups have set off bombs in Athens over the last week. Joe Lockhart, the White House press secretary, said: ''We have agreed, following the recommendation by the Greek government, that the president will visit Greece Nov. 19 and 20. The Greek government made its recommendation in the interest of U.S.-Greek relations. We will use the additional time to work with the Greek government on the best possible schedule for the president's visit and to complete substantive preparations.'' The State Department spokesman, James Rubin, said the step was taken after ''the security issue was fully discussed by the Secret Service and the Greek government.'' Mr. Rubin said American officials were cooperating with the Greek authorities in looking for ways to counter terrorism. But he added: ''Obviously, we are not satisfied. We think more needs to be done.'' The head of the State Department's counterterrorism office, Michael Sheehan, traveled to Athens recently for discussions on security concerns. Mr. Clinton had been scheduled to depart Friday for a Saturday-to-Monday visit to Greece. Now, he will leave Sunday for Ankara and proceed with his visit to Turkey. He will also visit Italy and Bulgaria before returning to Washington Nov. 23. In Athens, Greek leftists hailed the change in Mr. Clinton's trip to a country where he is known colloquially in Greek as Planitarchis, or Lord of the Planet. ''Imperialism is not invincible,'' the Greek Communist Party, which has engineered protests against the visit, said in a statement. ''People can win if they want to.'' Mr. Clinton's visit comes around the Nov. 17 anniversary of the Polytechnic uprising against the junta, which culminates every year with a march at the U.S. Embassy. ''Without going into detail on security,'' Mr. Lockhart said, ''we always take security concerns into account. I think there's a full and rich tradition of protests in Greece, particularly this time of year. I think the Greek government believed that we would have a more productive visit if it was later in the trip, and we agreed.'' Mr. Clinton, in an appearance at the White House, said that he was not concerned about security and that it was fine with him if Greeks disagreed with his Kosovo policy. He said the Greek government felt that the U.S.-Greek meetings might be more relevant if they occurred after next week's gathering in Turkey of leaders of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). ''They asked to do it,'' Mr. Clinton said. ''Whether the demonstrations had anything to do with it, I don't know, but they might have. But I'm not bothered about it. It's going to happen, and you all get to take pictures of it.'' White House officials said the decision to change the trip was made only because of the Greek government's inability to guarantee security this weekend. ''They were concerned that if we came this weekend and they had all these prot ests planned, they would be unable to contain the situation appropriately,'' one White House official said. ''They felt that if we waited, the heat of the moment would have passed and they would be better prepared. And so we scrambled and were able to accommodate the request.'' The official said that although Mr. Clinton had traveled to hot spots before, ''the difference here is we rely on the host government to provide security.'' The official added: ''If the host government advises us that they are not fully confident that they can deal with the problem, we have to heed their advice.'' The State Department has advised Americans to ''exercise appropriate caution'' in Greece and keep clear of demonstrations during the president's visit.
[CTRL] Business trumps human rights.
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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9945/hentoff.shtml
Published November 10 - 16, 1999
Time Inc. editor in chief Norman Pearlstine: Business trumps
human rights.
(photo: Marina Garnier)
NAT HENTOFF
Time Warner and Human Rights
Press Lords Bow to a Torturer
he Committee To Protect Journalists is the most valuable of all
press organizations because it goes beyond First Amendment
rights here at home to safeguard the right of all journalists in the
world to be protected from governments that imprison, torture, and
sometimes murder reporters who tell the awful truth. On November
23, in the Grand Ballroom of the Waldorf-Astoria, the Committee To
Protect Journalists will hold its Ninth Annual International Press
Freedom Awards Dinner-for the benefit of the committee.
Chairman of the event is Norman Pearlstine, editor in chief of Time
Inc.
The same Mr. Pearlstine figured prominently in Cynthia Cotts's
Press Clips in the October 12 Voice ("Chasing the Dragon: Time
Warner Goes to China and Gets Shanghaied by Its Hosts").
In describing the grand scope of Time Warner's recent tribute to the
Chinese government, which was held in Shanghai and later Beijing,
Human Rights in China-a New York?based organization that
monitors how that totalitarian government crushes free speech and
free press-reported:
"Entitled 'China: The Next 50 Years,' the Time Warner conference
from September 27 to 29 gathered more than 500 CEOs,
academics, economists, and government officials, including
Chinese president Jiang Zemin, who gave the keynote address.
"Among the U.S. executives on the conference roster were those
who control a vast share of the American media, including Jack
Welch of General Electric, which owns NBC; Gerald Levin of Time
Warner; and Sumner Redstone of Viacom [which recently
swallowed CBS]."
Norman Pearlstine was a principal participant in the conference.
Also present for this celebratory occasion, as Cynthia Cotts noted,
were top executives of Bertelsmann (owners of the Random House
compound), America Online, and Yahoo!.
Lest these powerful lords of the media feel at all embarrassed at
being the guests of a government that continues to imprison people
simply for advocating democracy, Henry Kissinger, of course,
appeared on CNN to assure us and the world that China has made
"considerable progress" on human rights and that, God forbid, any
confrontation on that subject during the conference might
jeopardize "the American national interest."
This is the same statesman who, during the state terrorism in
Chile, praised Pinochet in the name of our national interest.
A.M. Rosenthal in The New York Times furiously and admirably
protested the American conferees' obeisance to state terrorism in
China. And in an attempt to alert those media giants about the
gulags they were condoning, a meeting was held on September 16
with Norman Pearlstine. As editor in chief of Time Inc., he also
oversees Fortune magazine.
Fortunewas the convener of these congratulations to China for 50
years of contempt for human rights.
At the meeting with Pearlstine were Xiao Qiang, executive director
of Human Rights in China, and Robert Bernstein, who should get
the Nobel Peace Prize for his pioneering work in advancing human
rights around the world. They urged Pearlstine to make human
rights in China a primary focus of the Shanghai conference.
As Cynthia Cotts reported, Pearlstine said he understood the
human rights issue, but for business reasons, the decision had
already been made to exclude it from the agenda.
In a September 20 letter, Xiao Qiang and Robert Bernstein told
Pearlstine that excluding human rights as a major topic of
discussion was "an unconscionable omission" because "Beijing
and the rest of the world must not believe that major American
media and the international business communities have declared
human rights a nonissue now or in the future. . . .
"Your decision will greatly increase the peril of those who are
imprisoned in China just because of what they write and say. As
the chairman of the annual dinner for the Committee To Protect
Journalists this year, you clearly have your own strong concerns for
the principle of free expression that Time and Fortune have long
represented. [Emphasis added.]
"Therefore we urge you again to place human rights on the public
agenda. We strongly believe this could make a difference."
Pearlstine, despite his admitted concerns for free expression, was
not persuaded. Business is business.
At the Shanghai conference, there was a reference to human rights
in China in a panel on China's legal system (an obvious oxymoron).
But this issue, so excruciatingly pressing for those in work camps
for very long sentences, was not at the center of the conference.
Instead, the CEOs feted president Jiang Zemin.
A spokesman for Time Inc., explained that human rights were not
addressed by the full conference because "it was a business
meeting, not to say that people were not aware of the
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 99a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH? * No hearts were heedlessly broken to produce this bulletin. Weep for me. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Word Of The Day: http://www.dictionary.com/wordoftheday/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Scientists 'create' a neutron star. (BBC) Physicists have simulated some effects found around one of the strangest most dangerous objects in the known universe. In New Mexico lab, a machine is creating temperatures rivaling that found at the centre of the Sun. It is helping physicists learn what happens to matter that falls into black holes and neutron stars. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_515000/515765.stm @ Links: Sandia National Laboratories: http://www.sandia.gov/ @ Life cycle of stars: http://btc.montana.edu/ceres/html/starsbackground.htm : Have you created any neutron stars or black holes lately? Are you a black hole? What quasi-stellar objects would you like to create/visit/pollute?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Robot trainers aid stroke recovery. NEW YORK (Reuters) -- An interactive robot that can coax stroke patients through rehabilitation exercises may help them regain more muscle control and strength than standard therapy alone: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991110/18/health-rob1 # Implants could help paralysed patients. (BBC) Implants could be used in the future to help patients with spinal injuries regain their movement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_514000/514478.stm : Would you rather be implanted, roboticized, borgified? How many implants and robotic assemblies need be installed before you're completely a Borg? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Medics peer into the future. (BBC) Patients will be implanted with sensors to detect disease, toilets will analyse urine samples and diabetics will never have to worry about their condition again - in the next century. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_514000/514592.stm # ALSO - Taking the needle out of diabetes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_514000/514890.stm # Biosensors 'will transform healthcare': http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_514000/514801.stm : Who will control the machines that monitor/sustain you? Who'll have access to the data they gather? Can you wait for the next century? Must you anyway? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Giving birth may boost memory. NEW YORK (Reuters) - Sure it may ruin your figure and take up all your free time, but having children may also boost memory power, a new study in rodents shows. US researchers report that female rats who had given birth performed better on two standard mazes that test learning and memory than female rats who had not given birth. Huh? http://news.excite.com/news/r/991110/20/health-mem8 And see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_514000/514607.stm and http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562015450-e08 # ALSO - Hormones: the elixir of youth: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_395000/395538.stm # Mother's hormone levels 'can affect baby's IQ': http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_424000/424661.stm # Soya beans linked to developmental damage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_503000/503781.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 100-eyed bug surprises scientists. The extraordinary raspberry-like eyes of a tiny parasitic insect have been described for the 1st time. Strep- sipteran insects, which live in the bodies of paper wasps, have a visual system not found in any other living creature. The bugs see out of struc- tures that are made up of 50 self-contained eyes with retinas behind them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_505000/505129.stm # Also - Insects use lesbian ruse: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_481000/481394.stm # And - Bull's-eye beetle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_422000/422599.stm : Would you like to have your eyes re-engineered? How many eyes d'ya need? Would you like to see into the IR and UV spectra? Want wideband receivers? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Heart-O-Rama: # Robotic-Assisted Heart Bypass Shown Safe. ATLANTA (Reuters) - Someday surgeons may be able to perform non-invasive heart surgery on a patient without being in the same room or even the same state. Phone-in the per- formance: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991110/02/science-heart-robotics : D'ya want robots crawling around in you, cutting stitching mucking-up? # Chinese Diet Protects Heart. ATLANTA (Reuters) Chinese researchers presented more evidence that the standard Western diet can cause heart disease. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991110/02/science-heart-chinese : Are McFood vendors
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 99b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH? * No Oklahomans evolved during the production of this bulletin. No loss... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Zippy Of The Day: http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # `WISH MACHINE' MAKES DREAMS COME TRUE. PALM SPRINGS, CA. (Wireless Flash) A Palm Springs man claims to have invented an electronic device that makes wishes come true. Inventor Thor Templar says his "Tachyon Thoughtform Generator Wish Machine" electronically senses brain waves and turns them into reality with the help of a headband and two copper handles. Selling for $700 each: http://www.globetrax.com/globedaily/content/111099_04.html : Can you make dreams come true? Do you have any detectable brain waves? Do Templar's dreams of riches have a possibility of becoming manifestly real? @ Paraphernalia, memorabilia, information: http://www.anotheruniverse.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Oklahoma texts to carry disclaimer. TULSA (AP) An obscure state committee has voted to require that all new biology textbooks contain a disclaimer saying evolution is a "controversial theory" after one member said not enough attention is paid to alternate explanations of how life began. School districts may purchase only books approved by the committee. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562018586-adc : Have OK bureaucrats the slightest conception of what a scientific theory is? Do "alternate explanations" have the slightest shreds of evidentiary support? Does your belief sytem value fantasy/dogma over verifiable reality? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Physical FORCE - What It REALLY IS! Most orthodox physicists do NOT know what force REALLY IS. The best they can do is define it in terms of what it DOES. But according to a GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of physical Reality developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson, each force is a MOTION, or a COMBINATION OF MOTIONS, or a RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MOTIONS, including INWARD OUTWARD SCALAR MOTIONS, as TRANSLATIONAL, VIBRATIONAL, ROTA- TIONAL, or ROTATIONAL-VIBRATIONAL motions. http://www.randomc.com/~rs : Are you forceful? Do you rotate? Do aliens push you around in circles? Do you have a really neat Theory? Does everyone ignore you, the fools?!?!?!?!? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Study may shed light on planets. (AP) - Scientists say a loosely packed asteroid with the consistency of a melting snowman may help explain how planets formed in the early solar system: by gobbling up other objects. Mathilde: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562016474-787 # Move Over Mars - Europa Needs Equal Billing. Europa, a moon of Jupiter, appears to have vast quantities of liquid water below its icy surface, making this world a top candidate in the search for exobiology -- life beyond Earth. The National Research Council recommended to NASA that Europa be given equal priority to future exploration of Mars. Coming: http://www.space.com/news/planetarymissions/europa_story_991109.html : What's your favorite planet/oid? Do you grow by gobbling up other objects just like Mathilde? Do you have vast quantities of water under your surface? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Cylinder UFO Reports: http://www.caus.org/mu99.htm # UFO Crash In 1865 - Craft Wreckage Still There? http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/crashwreck.htm # Catholics successfully pray topless bar away - the place will soon become a library. http://detnews.com/1999/metro/9911/11/0080.htm # Malaysia parliament to be dissolved - dumped in sulfuric acid bath: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562015065-c32 # Pastor: I BURNED THE CHURCH TO UNIFY MY PARISHIONERS. Nothing brings a religious community together like a nice construction project, eh? Or a topless bar: http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/ark/B5xharris11.html # CDC: Pesticide may have been cause. Malathion sprayed over two Florida towns to kill crop-eating MedFlies may have sickened 123 people last year: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562017063-6d9 # SAME DRUGS CHEAPER FOR PETS THAN PEOPLE - redefine yourself as a dog, save money: http://cnn.com/HEALTH/9911/09/health.drugs.reut/ # Pope's health raises questions - Death provides the answers: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562024385-54e @ Why them? Falling in love remains a mystery, even in the harsh light of scientific analysis: http://www.sfbg.com/lit/october99/reviews/cupid.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Genetic Ethnically-Specific BioWeapons Coming. NEW DELHI - Biological weapons that would attack one ethnic group but leave others untouched may be available within 10 years. While the potential benefits of
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-Caveat Lector- From: PSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 Subj: [earthchanges] URGENT! STOP FLUORIDATION FORUM (Please Distribute) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:57:19 -0800 Subject: Fwd: URGENT! STOP FLUORIDATION FORUM (Please Distribute) ATTENTION ALL HEALTH-MINDED PEOPLE..YOU ARE INVITED L.A. CITIZENS FOR SAFE DRINKING WATER will be holding a Public Right to Know Dialogue/Debate, Lunch Fundraiser. A Natural Food Buffet Lunch will be provided. Please READ ON for further information. On August 10, 1999, the fluoridation of the Los Angeles water supply began without the consent of the public, without a public vote, and without the knowledge of most people. However, it is being done with your money, even though 213,000 L.A. voters rejected fluoridation in 1975. And despite the fact that fluoride is more toxic than arsenic and lead, and has been scientifically proven to be toxic and carcinogenic to human beings. Fluoride is a recognized poison available by the ton in the form of industrial by-products from various industries (primarily fluosilicic acid from phosphate fertilizer production) and is very costly to dispose of. Although fluoride is used as a pesticide (Cryolite to kill bugs, especially high amounts found in raisins and grapes--even organic) and is also used in rodenticides (sodium fluoride kills rodents), this same poison is added to the majority of commercial toothpastes, which must now carry a poison warning on their labels. Harm to people (especially children and babies) is a well-documented fact. If you're concerned, please read the following information and attend our forum! Ask hard questions. Get straight answers. Be informed. Protect your family. See a multimedia presentation and get the full story about fluoridation. WHEN: Saturday, November 13, 1999 TIME: 12:30 pm -- 3:00 pm WHERE: Encino Community Center (ample parking at location) 4935 Balboa Blvd. (just north of Ventura Blvd.), Encino, CA DIRECTIONS: Exit Balboa from the Ventura 101 fwy., go south one mile COST: $5.00 or more donation (Donations benefit the grassroots momentum to stop Los Angeles and California fluoridation) INFO HOTLINE: (818) 780-3330 Medical and dental professionals, experts and officials are encouraged to participate in panel discussions, debate and public questions. Please RSVP to above phone number if interested. PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS FLIER TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OT: Mycoplasma blood tests NOW available (fwd)
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Re: [CTRL] Air Force spent $308,000 on a kitchen renovation
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[CTRL] Massive Alt/Cancer/Health Website + Discussion Groups
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/3934/index.html"Gateway To Health; cure cancer allergies colitis psoriasis gallstones aids/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/10/1999 2:57:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The statement added that the Rothschild Group was planning to set up its first venture capital fund in Israel, which would focus on making initial investments in early-stage high-tech companies. Senior officials of the group, including the Baron Benjamin de Rothschild, will be in Israel in late November to launch the new subsidiary, the statement said. Don't I remember reading somewhere that the Rothschilds funded some Nazi efforts? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Men Humor:
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Men Humor: Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:32 AM -Caveat Lector- Just in time for Husband Appreciation Week. I try to be timely. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-11 04:58:22 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allegations that the Clinton administration authorized the FBI to use prostitutes first surfaced in INSIGHT magazine. Investigative journalist Tim Maier wrote that under-age male and female prostitutes were being used to obtain intelligence information from foreign diplomats during the December 1993 Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC) in Seattle Washington. Yet, the question of whether the Clinton administration used minors as prostitutes to obtain intelligence information on foreign diplomats remains open for debate. Federal officials also admitted that the use of under-age or untrained civilians in intelligence operations poses a significant risk and may be illegal under some circumstances. According to the same law enforcement officials, the information obtained is so important to U.S. national security that all necessary means, including prostitution, must be exploited to obtain it. ... The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? Subject: Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:50:16 EST From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Om I take exception to this idea! This is what some are trying to say of Capitalism (example: Bill Gates and Ross Perot) I do not consider Clinton a example of anything but SUB Human He is not Satanic (they "seem to" normally study and have more elaborate rites to joining than just raping nationalities or sadism or cannibalism. I always heard that you actually had to have a usable brain of your own. So, are you implying that the end all of money and power is to be able to flout the rules and laws? If this idea has gotten as far as people like you then I guess America is lost! Laura Lee Lanning-Shipton aka The Pied Piper p.s. that is one tune that I will not play... -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/10/1999 2:57:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The statement added that the Rothschild Group was planning to set up its first venture capital fund in Israel, which would focus on making initial investments in early-stage high-tech companies. Senior officials of the group, including the Baron Benjamin de Rothschild, will be in Israel in late November to launch the new subsidiary, the statement said. Don't I remember reading somewhere that the Rothschilds funded some Nazi efforts? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Prudy I've heard the old Nazi company I. G. Farben was originally built with Rothschild funds. Later, of course, it merged with the Rockefellers' Standard Oil. Mack White http://www.mackwhite.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 11 Nov 99, at 6:50, Das GOAT wrote: .. The Clinton administration's use of such drastic means for a so-called "economic" conference has raised questions about state-sponsored commercial espionage. Is export money enough justification to use children as sex-slaves and spies? How naive can we be? In the underworld economy of espionage and organized crime, which are almost indistinguishable, the primary currencies used are not ONLY "illegal drugs" and "black-market weapons." Just as valuable as either is SEX -- but, especially when sex is routine and cheap, for "sex" to have ANY value as a currency, it MUST be "taboo" sex, forbidden by law or just by normal (public) moral standards -- a kind of rare "delicacy," obtainable only by the the ultra-rich or the ultra-privileged, for whom being able to push the envelope of the "permissible" to the EXTREME is an essential definer of "elite" status. (Power isn't really "power" unless one is free --FREE-- to ABUSE it.) In more Victorian times, the "buzz" used to be homosexuality. Today it's pedophilia. OF COURSE it's not only immoral but ILLEGAL The flip side of POWER is its RISK -- so one is never welcomed into the circle of the powerful except by double-edged gifts which can, if PUBLICLY revealed, DESTROY one. "Secret societies" are "secret" for a good practical reason. Shared GUILT is a strong BOND and GUARANTEES silence. Wouldn't it be interesting if Clinton got to take the fall for thiswhich has been going on for decades, certainly through the two previous Republican administrations --if not forever. I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. sno0wl If you read about Bush and the rest you realize that theyare shilling for someone elses ideas. You will need to dig deeper than that. Piper -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Caucasus Belli
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From The Times (UK)
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Wednesday November 10 1999OPINION
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Chamsoudin Mamaev in Kommersant Vlast Caucasus belli Links
In the Northern Caucasus, it is not Islamic extremists who direct or finance
the rebels. There are other forces, much more influential and much more
respectable, who have no interest in introducing Islamic law.
Dagestan was condemned to war two years ago when two world powers entered into
pitiless competition. The Caucasus became their battleground. In August 1997,
the CIA had a secret meeting with Madeleine Albright on the subject of Caspian
oil. After listening to them, Madeleine Albright decreed that taking charge of
the future of this region would be "one of our most exciting tasks".
A few days later, Bill Clinton honoured with his presence the signing ceremony
of a petrol deal between the President of Azerbaijan and the oil company Amoco.
President Aliev returned home happy and the US decreed the Caucasus to be a
zone of strategic American interests.
Between a southern route for the oil pipeline, from Baku to Ceyhan on the
Mediterranean coast of Turkey, and a northern one to Novorosisk via Grozny, it
was the former which was chosen. In parallel, however, an opposite system was
being set up, launched by oil-producing Arab countries.
They struck at the weakest part of the American operation, the pipeline
project. Washington's project from Baku to Ceyhan via Tbilisi is the least
profitable of all possible choices. The only reason why the Americans preferred
it is that they want to ensure that the West has a supply of energy which is
independent from Russia and from the Moslim world, especially from the Arab
countries and Opec.
Shortly after the pipeline was opened from Baku to Soupsa on March 23, Opec
decided to cut its production. Chechnya was the first to apply the resolution:
it closed the taps on March 30. Russia started to transport petrol through
Dagestan: the rebels appeared soon afterwards.
When one thinks that in the meantime the price of petrol has doubled, this
means of stopping oil production is worth millions of dollars. But what does
Allah have to do with all that?
Copyright 1998 Times Newspapers Ltd.
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[CTRL] AOL user named CRAZY70707
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/3/99 12:06:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mystric 4U writes: Thought I would share with everyone something that happened on Tuesday night ... and I hope that you will all pass this to other AOL members. While I was online Tuesday night, my sister-in-law sent me an IM and told me to checkout the profile of another AOL user named CRAZY70707. Not really thinking much about it, I pulled the profile up ... and in big red letters, the word "FROZEN" was at the top of this profile. At first, I thought it was some kind of a joke, but when I went to click the profile off of my screen...I couldn't do anything...I was, as the profile said, frozen. I sat for a few moments thinking the joke would go away and I could continue my time on AOL. This wasn't the way it was going to happen. The only way I could get out was to cntrl/alt/delete. When I was able to log on again, my computer was sluggish so I logged off again. A few hours later when I decided to try again...I clicked on my AOL icon and a warning came up that I would need to reinstall AOL...it had been completely wiped from our system. When Alan got home, he called AOL to see if they could tell what happened. When he told the AOL rep about CRAZY70707, she pulled the profile up and guess what...as you might have already guessed...her computer froze up as mine did. We had to reinstall 4.0 and 5.0 again ... and we all know how much of a pain that is. We have lost everything in our download file, as well as everything stored in our favorite places. I am sending this as a warning to you all .. do not pull this profile up ... whoever this person is, he's an idiot ... he's been reported and I am hoping that AOL is smart and will discontinue his membership. In the meantime, however, don't get stuck in the same mess that we were ... and, by all means, pass this to as many people as you can. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "JAH" is a false prophet. Anyone who thinks God flies around in a UFO has belittled God. God created the universe and life. Does He really need a space craft to carry Him around? The concept is ridiculous. jah likes to hear himself talk, he has interpreted the scriptures accurately in some places, but doesn't have a full understanding of Christ. A truly loving being doesn't say "I can understand why your wife left you" when criticized. From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:37:33 -0300 -Caveat Lector- On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:14:29 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: P.S. Don't let those chumps that have been rude towars your message over the last 36 hours discourage you AT ALLi.e., TIME IS SHORT, and you just gotta stay with those spirits THAT ARE ABLE TO _HEAR_ YOUR UNIQUE INSIGHTS, i.e., there ain't no way time enough to waste even replying to ppl that CAN'T HEAR!! I agree, Mike! The site of our friend JAH is very interesting. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Happy Tyrants?
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Wednesday, November 03, 1999
Why tyrants are unhappy
How can they be sure anyone loves them?
Norman Doidge
National Post
An extraordinary scandal is brewing in France. The French secret service has
received a KGB dossier stating that Alexandre Kojeve, the French philosopher
and intellectual architect of the European Economic Union, the Euro and much of
what we now call globalization, was a KGB agent for 30 years.
Kojeve was born in Russia in 1902. He left for Germany, where he studied Hegel,
the philosopher of history, then went on to France. His seminar at the Ecole
des Hautes Etudes, in Paris, blended philosophers Marx, Hegel and Heidegger and
attracted many of the best-known intellectuals in Paris. Political philosopher
Raymond Aron, psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan (who took many of Kojeve's ideas),
philosopher Merleau-Ponty and surrealist Andre Breton all attended. Kojeve was
magnetic, and became known as the cleverest man in France and a walking
encyclopaedia of history, philosophy, art, wine, music.
Kojeve promoted ideas that are fashionable today. One, stated somewhat
simplistically, is that the truth is historically determined. This shows up now
as the insistence that our attitudes about gender, race and morality are
historically -- as opposed to naturally -- determined. He also spoke much of
the importance of "recognition" -- a term that comes up now when ethnic groups
and minorities seek it or, increasingly, demand it as a "right." Kojeve, a
modern revolutionary intellectual, believed in scientific "progress" and the
conquest of nature. He also believed in the conquest of human nature: He
asserted that human nature is not fixed, that it can be transformed, and
improved, by action -- especially violent revolutionary action that radically
alters social conditions.
When Kojeve was 46, he appeared to transform himself by action from a teacher
into a civil servant in the department of finance. His revolutionary goal was
to bring about a universal and homogeneous world state that would provide its
citizens with the "recognition" he spoke of. He began promoting the European
Economic Community (the EEC) as a first step toward creating a massive
continental power -- a centralized superstate between the United States and the
U.S.S.R.
Though a man of the Left, who openly praised Stalin, he was able, by dint of
his brilliance, to persuade the U.S. to drop its objections to the EEC, and to
influence the conservative President De Gaulle to oppose British EEC entry. He
also influenced future French president Giscard d'Estaing and Prime Minister
Raymond Barre. At the height of his power he gave interviews in which he said,
half-jokingly, that he was "a god." He thought he could change not only human
nature, but the world. But how exactly did he get such access to men of power?
Some clues about Kojeve's ideas about the relationship of a "wise" advisor to
powerful men come to light in his writing on an ancient book, On Tyranny, by
Xenophon. In it, a man of wisdom, Simonides, approaches a Greek tyrant, Hiero,
seeking to influence him. Simonides gets Hiero talking about what makes him
unhappy, then holds out hope that he can help him.
Hiero complains that his subjects envy him his position and think his is the
best life because of the power, honours and goods it affords. But he is at an
impasse. Though he has much force at his disposal, he can rarely travel freely
for fear of assassination. Though he has glamorous lovers, he can never be
certain whether they love him or just want something from him. Though he can
gorge himself on the finest food, he never enjoys it as much as a poor, hungry
man enjoys his meal. His subjects are his prisoners, but he is a prisoner to
his passion for power, honour and things. Though he sought his position in
order to be honoured, he must hold it by force and, consequently, is never sure
he is truly honoured. The tyrant is at an impasse.
Simonides, a character conceived in the classical philosophical tradition, sees
that this impasse means that the tyrant is blinded by his love of honour.
Simonides sets out to moderate the tyrant, but not to change him, because the
ancient thinkers didn't believe human nature could be changed.
Kojeve thought tyrants can do good, because alongside the quest for recognition
as a core human motivation, there is another motivation: the quest for the
solitary pleasure that follows the effective execution of a task, as when a
solitary child makes a picture. Because even the tyrant wants to execute his
governing task effectively, he soon turns to reasonable advisors. Kojeve wrote:
"I have the impression that the relations between the philosopher and the
tyrant have always been 'reasonable' in the course of historical evolution: on
the one hand the philosophers' 'reasonable' advice has always been actualized
by tyrants sooner or later; on the other
[CTRL] A Year 2000 Launching?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/99/11/11/letters/l11rus.html To the Editor: Re "Computer Worries Fuel Withdrawal of U.S. Diplomats" (front page, Nov. 8): Although American experts say the chances are "virtually nil" that the Year 2000 problem will set off an accidental firing of a Russian nuclear missile at a United States target, the exodus of American diplomats from Russia and three other former Soviet republics is an indication that many of them think otherwise. Those of us who live in New York, a primary Russian target, should wonder why, instead of monitoring each other, the United States and Russia don't shut off their mutually assured destruction targeting mechanisms for the first week of 2000 so that no accidental launching can possibly take place. PEDRO A. SANJUAN Mount Vernon, N.Y., Nov. 8, 1999 The writer is a former public affairs director at the United States Arms Control and Disarmament Agency. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Year 2000 Launching?
-Caveat Lector- To me it seems that the possibility of a nuke fired at the US from Russia would not cause an exodus from Russia to here. That doesn't make sense to me. Why would the diplomats want to come back if they think that there might be accidental firings?? - Original Message - From: Jeff Hearon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: [CTRL] A Year 2000 Launching? : -Caveat Lector- : : http://www.nytimes.com/99/11/11/letters/l11rus.html : : To the Editor: : Re "Computer Worries Fuel Withdrawal of U.S. Diplomats" (front page, Nov. : 8): : : Although American experts say the chances are "virtually nil" that the Year : 2000 problem will set off an accidental firing of a Russian nuclear missile : at a United States target, the exodus of American diplomats from Russia and : three other former Soviet republics is an indication that many of them think : otherwise. : : : Those of us who live in New York, a primary Russian target, should wonder : why, instead of monitoring each other, the United States and Russia don't : shut off their mutually assured destruction targeting mechanisms for the : first week of 2000 so that no accidental launching can possibly take place. : : PEDRO A. SANJUAN : Mount Vernon, N.Y., Nov. 8, 1999 : : The writer is a former public affairs director at the United States Arms : Control and Disarmament Agency. : : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER : == : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters : and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright : frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects : spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL : gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; : be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and : nazi's need not apply. : : Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. : : Archives Available at: : http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html : : http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ : : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Om : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Public Choice Theory
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Public Choice Theory Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 9:35 PM Conspiracy Theory for Cowards. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: A Year 2000 Launching?
-Caveat Lector- This issue strikes at the heart of the Y2K controversy -- a real danger, not a doomsday panic fear. It is serious enough for the New York Times to do an editorial and publish a letter to the editor. It must be aired quickly, without fear or State Department double-talk -- AND CONCLUSIVELY. PEDRO A. SANJUAN Mount Vernon, N.Y., Nov. 8, 1999 The writer is a former public affairs director at the United States Arms Control and Disarmament Agency. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Buchannan kicks ass
-Caveat Lector- http://www.frontpagemag.com/archives/politics/buchanan11-09-99.htm Free at Last | Patrick J. Buchanan Wall Street Journal | November 5, 1999 IN ORWELL'S 1984, employees at the Ministry of Truth were given time off for "the Two-Minutes Hate," to shout curses at the enemies of Big Brother. In Buchanan and Anti-Semitism, Norman Podhoretz shows a fine aptitude for the exercise. While clearing up all the debris he left on your page would require a small book, let me respond to a few of his charges. He calls my new book, A Republic, Not an Empire, "soft on Hitler." Yet in it I call Hitler a "monster," charge him with "ugly actions and discriminatory laws" against German Jews as early as 1933, equate his treatment of rivals to Al Capone's, and describe the post-1939 situation in Poland as "the peace of Auschwitz and Katyn, where SS and NKVD killers roamed free and labored long into the night." This is "soft on Hitler"? Mr. Podhoretz says I have a "habit of championing the cause of almost anyone accused of participating actively in Hitler's genocidal campaign against the Jews." But whom have I defended? Six men. Frank Walus of Chicago and Ivan Stebelsky of Denver, accused by Simon Wiesenthal of being Nazi war criminals, were proven to be wholly innocent. Tscherim Soobzokov of New Jersey was about to receive compensation for the vile slander that he was an SS killer when he was blown to pieces by a bomb outside his home. I defended John Demjanjuk for ten years, insisting he was not "Ivan the Terrible" of Treblinka. On the eve of Mr. Demjanjuk's scheduled execution, Moscow released documents proving "Ivan" was another man. Demjanjuk had never even been at Treblinka. Due perhaps to my columns, John Demjanjuk's wrongful execution was delayed, and averted, and Israel was spared the international disgrace of having hanged an innocent man. Karl Linnas was accused of being a Nazi killer at the Tartu camp in Estonia. Along with the Washington Post, I opposed his being sent back to certain death in the USSR. All I asked for was a fair trial for Linnas, right here in the USA. As for Dr. Arthur Rudolph, the German rocket scientist who built the Saturn that took Neil Armstrong to the moon, he was cleared by two postwar investigations and brought to America under Harry Truman. Under threat of a loss of his pension, Social Security, and honors, Rudolph, the victim of a heart attack, did renounce his U.S. citizenship and return to Germany. There, the German government investigated the U.S. Justice Department's charges against him and found them baseless. What did I ask for? Only that Dr. Rudolph be given a hearing before a congressional committee, so that both his accusers and his defenders could present their respective cases. Now, why did I take up the causes of these men? Because I believed they were innocent, or I believed they had not been given a fair chance to prove their innocence. And because no one else would. While I have paid a high price for having done so, I have never regretted it. It was the best journalism I ever did. As for my views on Israel, they have changed. With the Intifada, I came to believe that Israel's survival now mandated a homeland, a flag, and a nation of their own for the Palestinian people. A friend of mine I made in Israel at the end of the Six Day War, Yitzhak Rabin reached the same conclusion at the same time. For attempting to negotiate peace with Arafat, Rabin, too, was called an anti-Semite and Nazi, and was murdered in that climate of hatred. Do we really want to recreate this climate in our own country? All but one of Mr. Podhoretz's charges are recycled garbage from his old compactor, Commentary. But his newest shows how his obsession with me over ten years has begun to impair his reason. Mr. Podhoretz speaks of the "incredible words" I wrote for Ronald Reagan to justify a presidential visit to Bitburg. "Through Mr. Reagan's mouth," says he, "Mr. Buchanan declared that the soldiers buried there, who included members of SS units, were 'victims of the Nazis just as surely as the victims in concentration camps.' No more disgusting example of moral equivalence can ever have been recorded or can scarcely even be imagined." What is wrong with this? Just about everything. First, there is the insinuation that I could put in the "mouth" of Ronald Reagan "incredible words" he did not understand or believe. This is grossly insulting; the Ronald Reagan I served could not be manipulated by anyone into saying what he did not believe. Second, President Reagan never equated SS troops and camp victims. He equated the teenage boys Hitler put in uniform and sent to certain death at war's end with concentration-camp victims. Here is Mr. Reagan's statement in full: "These [SS troops] were the villains, as we know, that conducted the persecutions and all. But there
[CTRL] Contractor takes blame for math goof that crashed Mars probe
-Caveat Lector- Contractor takes blame for math goof that crashed Mars probe "It was overlooked." Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By PAUL RECER WASHINGTON (November 10, 1999 6:02 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - For nine months, the Mars Climate Orbiter was speeding through space and speaking to NASA in metrics. But the engineers on the ground were replying in non-metric English. The mathematical mismatch that was not caught until after the $125 million spacecraft, a key part of NASA's Mars exploration program, was sent crashing too low and too fast into the Martian atmosphere. The craft has not been heard from since. "We were on the wrong trajectory and our system of checks and balances did not allow us to recognize that," Edward Stone, director of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said Wednesday. The NASA center in California was in charge of the Mars mission. Noel Henners of Lockheed Martin Astronautics, the prime contractor for the Mars craft, said at a news conference that his company's engineers were responsible for ensuring that the metric data used in one computer program were compatible with the English measures used by another program. The simple conversion check was not done, he said. "It was overlooked," Henners said. The Mars Climate Orbiter was launched Dec. 11 and spent nine months coasting toward Mars. Art Stephenson, director of the Marshall Spaceflight Center and head of a NASA investigation team, said that the spacecraft was not symmetrical and that pressure from the sun caused it to slowly twist or roll as it sped along. On-board gyroscopes partially controlled the motion, but eventually rocket firings were needed to stabilize the craft, he said. This happened 12 to 14 times a week over the nine-month voyage. Engineers on the ground calculated the size of the rocket firing using feet- per-second of thrust, a value based on the English measure of feet and inches. However, the spacecraft computer interpreted the instructions in Newtons-per-second, a metric measure of thrust. The difference is 4.4 feet per second. "Each time there was a burn (rocket firing) the error built up," said Stephenson. As the spacecraft approached its rendezvous with Mars and the engineers prepared for a final rocket firing, there were indications that something was seriously wrong with the navigation, but no corrective action was taken, Stephenson said. When the Mars Climate Orbiter did fire its rockets, the craft went too low into the planet's atmosphere instead of into a safe orbit. Communication signals stopped when the craft passed behind Mars and have not been heard since. "We entered the Mars atmosphere at a much lower altitude (than planned)," said Ed Weiler, NASA's chief scientist. "It (the spacecraft) either burned up in the Martian atmosphere or sped out (into space). We're not sure which happened." Stephenson said that the problem was not with the spacecraft, but with the engineers and the systems used to direct it. "The spacecraft did everything we asked of it," said Stephenson. He said the mathematical mismatch was "a little thing" that could have been easily fixed if it had been detected. "Sometimes the little things can come back and really make a difference," he said. Stone said that problems found in the Mars Climate Orbiter loss have led to major changes in control and operation of a sister spacecraft, the Mars Polar Lander, that is scheduled to land on Mars on Dec. 3. "There were hard lessons to learn from the loss of the Mars Orbiter, but learn them we will," said Stone. "We must learn and learn quickly" because the Mars landing is just over three weeks away, he said. Following recommendations from Stephenson's investigation board, Stone said the team directing the Mars Polar Lander has been reorganized and strengthened. He said senior engineers have been added to the group and a new system of review and evaluation has been installed. He said that navigation of the Mars craft now will be checked by two independent means to make sure it is on target for the landing. Loss of the Mars Climate Orbiter is a serious blow to NASA's exploration program. The spacecraft was to orbit Mars and act as a radio relay for signals from the Mars lander. Those signals now will be routed through another spacecraft. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the
Re: [CTRL] Mark: When Militias are Outlawed///
-Caveat Lector- Dear Edward, I hope you're right. I have often thought that the British people would not accept things and rebel, but I have, over decades, been continually sadly disappointed by the total lack of response. Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: [CTRL] Mark: When Militias are Outlawed/// -Caveat Lector- Mark: "We've got to dismantle the NRA," urges filmmaker Spike Lee. "It's time to rethink [the Second Amendment]..." says Mia Farrow. "I think [the Second Amendment] is in the Constitution so we can have muskets when the British people come over in 1800," opines talk-show host Rosie O'Donnell. When or if these individuals decide to embark on eliminating the second amendment, I am afraid that they will discover--the hard way--why the founders intended for the American people to keep and bear arms. Sure, given the massive nature and number of the current, and ENGINEERED, tragedies sweeping the nation, they might be successful in holding a constitutional convention and winning the approval of enough states to ratify an end to the second amendment, but in doing so, they will ensure the inevitability of civil war. No reasonable individual will ever give up the only means of defending him/herself against tyranny. Edward + "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force. " Edward Britton + http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Terminator Seeds
-Caveat Lector- Dear Nicola, If you think that is bad; please read the following:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm and see what the real outcome will be. Peace be upon you, JAH. G.M. "Terminator" Seeds. The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator" plants. The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to "Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to animals and humans. That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact that they can't eat money. JAH. * Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet. 1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE (knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED: Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them. Politics UFO's Heraldry The Lia Fail Gibraltar The Way Home Home Page Celtic Prophecy Environmental The Truth About... Koran Movies Social and Spiritual Scripture Ireland - Original Message - From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:51 AM Subject: [CTRL] Terminator Seeds -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [TheEagle-L] (Fwd) Terminator Seeds Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:56:00 -800 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:19:07 -0700 From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Terminator Seeds Post Number 133: GE Foods, II This information was sent to me just after I sent out the information on genetically engineered foods. This is another aspect of what is being done to our food supply, and it is anything but an accident, and certainly is being done with evil intent. The ultimate control of people is through their food supply, or lack thereof. Any questions you have about this should lead you to a study of what the Russian Communists did to the farmers who refused the collective (centralized control of food production, thereby permitting no dissent to the state) farms. The Russian army went into the farms and stole all food, animals and seed stocks. This led to the starving to death of millions of people. The same is being planned here. Let me give you a glimpse into the future, as planned by the collectivist of Washington, DC, and London, England. Total control of food production through control of all seed stocks and land (land by taxation). Total control of all cities, through limited amounts of food. Total control of all weapons, through food. When you look at any major city in the US today, pay careful attention to the "ring" roads which circle them. These, as are all Interstate Highways, are military roads. It would be ridiculously easy to establish military perimeters with small groups of soldiers controlling these rings. This also means total control of all food going in, and not just shipments intended for the stores from the major supply centers. Your local health food store, the farmer's market, your neighbor's son coming in for the weekend, all, of course, in the name of `saving gas' or equal distribution according to need. But the result will be the same; no food unless it is distributed by the so-called authorities. More on this in the Y2K Planning Post coming up. There is one point that I have no verification on, but which I "believe" to be true. When you read of Pol Pot and what he did in Cambodia, the planning of emptying the cities and forcing the people into the country side was done by a think tank in Washington, DC. The killing fields of
Re: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE
-Caveat Lector- Dear Nicola, If you think that is bad; please read the following:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm and see what the real outcome will be. Peace be upon you, JAH. G.M. "Terminator" Seeds. The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator" plants. The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to "Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to animals and humans. That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact that they can't eat money. JAH. * Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet. 1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE (knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED: Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them. Politics UFO's Heraldry The Lia Fail Gibraltar The Way Home Home Page Celtic Prophecy Environmental The Truth About... Koran Movies Social and Spiritual Scripture Ireland - Original Message - From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [TheEagle-L] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE--ST Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:57 -800 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:59:57 -0800 To:(Recipient list suppressed) From: "A.C." Subject: THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE--STERILE SEED DEVISED BY SATANIC MINDS--how we can counteract Let us contribute to SSE's legacy, by all of us who care about nourishment for ourselves, our families, our nation, and the world, to add our numbers to their gallant, "self pollinating," seed saving effort. ac This from the Seed Savers Exchange (SSE): Seed savers Exchange is a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization that is saving "heirloom" (handed-down) garden seeds from extinction. SSE's 8,000 members grow and distribute heirloom varieties of vegetables, fruits, grains, flowers and herbs. SSE's main focus is on heirloom varieties that gardeners and farmers brought to North America when their families immigrated, and traditional varieties grown by Native Americans, Mennonites and Amish. Since SSE was founded in 1975, our members have distributed an estimated 750.000 samples of rare and endangered seeds not available through catalogs and often on the verge of extinction. SSE has always been the leader of the heirloom seed movement, and the diligent efforts of our members are making rare heirloom varieties available to gardeners everywhere. SSE's phone number and address to receive their catalogue: (319)-382-5990 SEED SAVERS EXCHANGE 3076 North Winn Road Decorah, IA 52101 - http://www.arkinstitute.com Visit The Ark Institute's web site @ http://www.arkinstitute.com for archived Food and Grain Supply Updates. To be placed on Geri Guidetti,s free Food Supply Update email list, send an email with "list" in the subject box to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seed Terminator Mega-Merger Threaten Food Freedom Food Supply Update - June 5, 1998 By Geri Guidetti www.arkinstitute.com c. 1998 All Rights Reserved There have been times in human history when the line between genius and insanity was so fine that it was barely perceptible. In the world of biotechnology and food, that line has just been
Re: [CTRL] Terminator - BIOTECH = HUNGER advert
-Caveat Lector- Dear Dave, Thought you might like this that I sent to Nicola:- Dear Nicola, If you think that is bad; please read the following:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm and see what the real outcome will be. Peace be upon you, JAH. G.M. "Terminator" Seeds. The real reason for the production of G.M. "Terminator Seeds", nomatter what assurances and "spin-doctoring" they give us, is to cross-pollinate all the crops on Earth, so that the companies who produce these seeds will then have the world at their mercy, as everyone on Earth would then be forced to buy seeds from them, every year, or starve. Just like the "Terminator", that these seeds are named after and the person who is feeding the scientists this evil deceptive technology*, the cross-pollination absolutely will not stop until it has turned all of the plants on Earth into "Terminator" plants. The method in the madness, of the person who is REALLY behind all this insanity, is to then destroy these "Terminator Seeds" by getting them to "Self-Destruct" before producing a crop and the whole world will then starve, irrespective of any physical harm these crops will also do to animals and humans. That is why Satan is telepathically feeding his scientists, who work for the G.M. companies, with this insane technology* and has convinced them to adopt it, because they can see the money and power, they think, they will obtain through it, whilst their arrogance and greed blind them to their lunacy and the Apocalyptic danger of this totally un-necessary technology and the fact that they can't eat money. JAH. * Technology - Science / false knowledge which is destroying the planet. 1 Timothy 5:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE (knowledge) FALSELY SO CALLED: Enoch 68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them. Politics UFO's Heraldry The Lia Fail Gibraltar The Way Home Home Page Celtic Prophecy Environmental The Truth About... Koran Movies Social and Spiritual Scripture Ireland - Original Message - From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: [CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [TheEagle-L] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE--ST Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:57 -800 From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:59:57 -0800 To:(Recipient list suppressed) From: "A.C." Subject: THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE--STERILE SEED DEVISED BY SATANIC MINDS--how we can counteract Let us contribute to SSE's legacy, by all of us who care about nourishment for ourselves, our families, our nation, and the world, to add our numbers to their gallant, "self pollinating," seed saving effort. ac This from the Seed Savers Exchange (SSE): Seed savers Exchange is a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization that is saving "heirloom" (handed-down) garden seeds from extinction. SSE's 8,000 members grow and distribute heirloom varieties of vegetables, fruits, grains, flowers and herbs. SSE's main focus is on heirloom varieties that gardeners and farmers brought to North America when their families immigrated, and traditional varieties grown by Native Americans, Mennonites and Amish. Since SSE was founded in 1975, our members have distributed an estimated 750.000 samples of rare and endangered seeds not available through catalogs and often on the verge of extinction. SSE has always been the leader of the heirloom seed movement, and the diligent efforts of our members are making rare heirloom varieties available to gardeners everywhere. SSE's phone number and address to receive their catalogue: (319)-382-5990 SEED SAVERS EXCHANGE 3076 North Winn Road Decorah, IA 52101 - http://www.arkinstitute.com Visit The Ark Institute's web site @ http://www.arkinstitute.com for archived Food and Grain Supply Updates. To be placed on Geri Guidetti,s free Food Supply Update email list, send an email with "list" in the subject box to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seed Terminator Mega-Merger Threaten Food Freedom Food Supply Update - June 5, 1998 By Geri Guidetti www.arkinstitute.com c. 1998 All Rights Reserved There have been times in human history when the line between genius and insanity was so fine that it was barely perceptible. In the world of
Re: [CTRL] OT: Pat Robertson is Ready for the Revolution (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I think Pat is over-estimating the number of Believers. I would put it more at 10% or about 25,000,000 instead of 100,000,000. However, I would advocate the Mayflower instead of the Revolution. Get on "Mayflower II" and head for Canada. But first help us with the agit-prop necessary to destroy the last vestige of "federalism" here and restore our Constitutional Confederation. FWP. -Original Message- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:32 AM Subject: [CTRL] OT: Pat Robertson is Ready for the Revolution (fwd) -Caveat Lector- ROBERTSON URGES REVOLT, TELLS VIEWERS: "THROW OFF THE SHACKLES" OF THE COURTS On his TV "700 Club" broadcast today, TV preacher Pat Robertson called on viewers to revolt against the Supreme Court and "throw off the shackles of this dictatorship that's been imposed on us." Robertson made his remarks in his commentary following a news story from Kentucky, where seven school districts have reportedly posted copies of the Ten Commandments in public schools in defiance of court rulings banning such postings as unconstitutional. Robertson likened these events in Kentucky to the American Revolution. He said: "Ladies and gentlemen, I want to say this very clearly. If the people of the United States of America - all across America, in their churches and in their civic groups and in their legislatures - decide that they're not going to allow the Supreme Court to dominate their lives in the fashion that it has in this nation, the Supreme Court does not have the power to change that. They are not going to be able to overturn the will of a hundred million American people. And I think the time has come that we throw off the shackles of this dictatorship that's been imposed upon us. "We had a war in 1776 that set us free from the shackles of the arbitrary rule of the British crown, and I think what's going in Corbin, Kentucky, boy, those people like to live free. And I think the time has come that we do that." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOP SECRET FBI Pimp Files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 10:12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have always thought that, in the larger picture, Clinton was a patsy--like Oswald--intended to take the blame for all the illegalities and pecadillos of Bush et al., allowing them to come back into the arena later looking clean. And, if this is true, you have to give him some credit for his ability to duck and cover. When he came into office, Clinton looked like a healthy young man. The pictures I see of him lately, he looks positively ashen and almost aged. In only a decade? Mind you, I'm not condoning these activities (which are horrendous), but Clinton certainly didn't invent them. Hoover might have gotten them from Caesar, Nero, or Calligula. And Bush certainly used them during the Regan era. My goodness, Owl, it's good to know somebody can see through the smoke. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Black Triangles.
-Caveat Lector- Thanks to the responces re Black Triangles. I received these as well.. Peter Hi Peter, Perhaps your mate should join the E-group ?? http://www.egroups.com/group/black-triangle/info.html Their homepage : http://members.aol.com/SecretJet/ some others http://www.ipcress.com/area51/abt.html http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/uforeal/uforeal.html http://qtm.net/~geibdan/newse/july/glas.html We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 1:18:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't I remember reading somewhere that the Rothschilds funded some Nazi efforts? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Prudy I've heard the old Nazi company I. G. Farben was originally built with Rothschild funds. Later, of course, it merged with the Rockefellers' Standard Oil. Mack White Oh thank you. I thought there was something back there. A bit ironic isn't it? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Terminator Seeds
-Caveat Lector- Hey KID, I have been there and done that! You want to see where this is going? Breeding a superior race of NAZI? How about a superior race of white lab rat? Next, since it seems as if they could have been using this technology in Russia for quite a while, for us to be able to 'Blow the whistle' means that it will eventually rebound to Clinton, Monsanto, Bush, Russia, Japan and more. Want to see what is messing them up??? I mean when they were threatening everyone with blackmail if they did not capitulate? Down size their surplus and give control of their countries to the WTO read New World Order? When they were ready to say that the special ones could hide underground, or in space -wipe the Earth of life, and then reseed. See if you understand this web page http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/es_major.htm Laura Lee Lanning-Shipton aka The Pied Piper aka The Cog in Their Plans excuse me if I do not subscribe to your publications but I like my news to be current, and you are way behind the times! Also as far as some trying to say that Jews have and are doing some of this. They are not the only ones with brains and the info I have did not come from the Jewish or Christian religions. So. Would you like a hint as to what ideas might be back in the fight? -- Science and Education trickle down (still it takes time for new ideas to come into play) BUT when technology is at a fast pace and some want control, those that want control can make it seem as if the ones at the bottom are being left out. -- "The Balkans seethed with rebellion against the once-mighty empire of the Hapsburgs, now regarded as the 'jailer of the Slavs'. -- 1914 Archduke Franz Ferdinand assassinated, heir to the Austro- Hungarian throne. 1914-1920 WW I 1918 execution of Nicholas II (Romanov dynasty) 1920- Religious Fundamentalism I do not believe in pedophile or cannibalism and if saying that these practices are needed - in worshiping individual gods or to keep the surplus in line, I guess I would be called a jailer too! BUT my handle is The Pied Piper JAH Publications wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/gmterm.htm http://www.rafi.org/translator/termtrans.html http://www.rafi.org/usda.html -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Men Humor:
-Caveat Lector- Thanks, Hilary! Quite hilarious! (Of course, women can't write their names in the snow when they take a leak !) Take care!, Mike G. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dismal economic system. Dismal science.
-Caveat Lector- The Growth Consensus Unravels Jonathan Rowe, Dollars and Sense Economics has been called the dismal science, but beneath its gray exterior is a system of belief worthy of Pollyanna. Yes, economists manage to see a dark cloud in every silver lining. Downturn follows uptick, and inflation rears its ugly head. But there's a story within that story -- a gauzy romance, a lyric ode to Stuff. It's built into the language. A thing produced is called a "good," for example, no questions asked. The word is more than just a term of art. It suggests the automatic benediction which economics bestows upon commodities of any kind. By the same token, an activity for sale is called a "service." In conventional economics there are no "dis-services," no actions that might be better left undone. The bank that gouges you with ATM fees, the lawyer who runs up the bill -- such things are "services" so long as someone pays. If a friend or neighbor fixes your plumbing for free, it's not a "service" and so it doesn't count. The sum total of these products and activities is called the Gross Domestic Product, or GDP. If the GDP is greater this year than last, then the result is called "growth." There is no bad GDP and no bad growth; economics does not even have a word for such a thing. It does have a word for less growth. In such a case, economists say growth is "sluggish" and the economy is in "recession." No matter what is growing -- more payments to doctors because of worsening health, more toxic cleanup -- so long as there is more of it, then the economic mind declares it good. This purports to be "objective science." In reality it is a rhetorical construct with the value judgments built in, and this rhetoric has been the basis of economic debate in the United States for the last half century at least. True, people have disagreed over how best to promote a rising GDP. Liberals generally wanted to use government more, conservatives less. But regarding the beneficence of a rising GDP, there has been little debate at all. If anything, the Left traditionally has believed in growth with even greater fervor than the Right. It was John Maynard Keynes, after all, who devised the growth-boosting mechanisms of macroeconomic policy to combat the Depression of the 1930s; it was Keynesians who embraced these strategies after the War and turned the GDP into a totem. There's no point in seeking a bigger pie to redistribute to the poor, if you don't believe the expanding pie is desirable in the first place. Today, however, the growth consensus is starting to unravel across the political spectrum and in ways that are both obvious and subtle. The issue is no longer just the impact of growth upon the environment -- the toxic impacts of industry and the like. It now goes deeper, to what growth actually consists of and what it means in people's lives. The things economists call "goods" and "services" increasingly don't strike people as such. There is a growing disconnect between the way people experience growth and the way the policy establishment talks about it, and this gap is becoming an unspoken subtext to much of American political life. The group most commonly associated with an antigrowth stance is environmentalists, of course. To be sure, one faction, the environmental economists, is trying to put green new wine into the old bottles of economic thought. If we would just make people pay the "true" cost of, say, the gasoline they burn, through the tax system for example, then the market would do the rest. We'd have benign, less-polluting growth, they say, perhaps even more than now. But the core of the environmental movement remains deeply suspicious of the growth ethos, and probably would be even if the environmental impacts somehow could be lessened. In the middle are suburbanites who applaud growth in the abstract, but oppose the particular manifestations they see around them -- the traffic, sprawl and crowded schools. On the Right, meanwhile, an anti-growth politics is arising practically unnoticed. When social conservatives denounce gambling, pornography, or sex and violence in the media, they are talking about specific instances of the growth that their political leaders rhapsodize on other days. Environmentalists have been like social conservatives in one key respect. They have been moralistic regarding growth, often scolding people for enjoying themselves at the expense of future generations and the earth. Their concern is valid, up to a point -- the consumer culture does promote the time horizon of a five year old. But politically it is not the most promising line of attack, and conceptually it concedes too much ground. To moralize about consumption as they do is to accept the conventional premise that it really is something chosen -- an enjoyable form of self-indulgence that has unfortunate consequences for the earth. That's "consumption" in the common parlance -- the sport utility vehicle loading up at
Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article
-Caveat Lector- I've heard the old Nazi company I. G. Farben was originally built with Rothschild funds. Can you cite a credible reference for this? From "The Rockefeller Syndicate" http://www.afn.org/~govern/rockfeller.html : An important step on the road to world monopoly was the most far-reaching corporation invented by the Rothschilds. This was the international drug and chemical cartel, I. G. Farben. Called "a state within a state" , it was created in 1925 as Interessen Gemeinschaft Farbeinindustrie Aktien Gesellschaft, usually known simply as I. G. Farben, which simply meant "The Cartel". It had originated in 1904, when the six major chemical companies in Germany began negotiations to form the ultimate cartel, merging Badische Anilin, Bayer, Agfa, Hoechst, Weiler-ter-Meer, and Greisheim-Electron. The guiding spirit,as well as the financing, came from the Rothschilds, who were represented by their German banker, Max Warburg of M. M. Warburg Company, Hamburg. He later headed the German Secret Service during World War I and was personal financial advisor to the Kaiser. It is also misleading to portray IG Farbin as an "Old Nazi company." It From "The Rockefeller Syndicate" http://www.afn.org/~govern/rockfeller.html : In 1930,Standard Oil announced that it had purchased an alcohol monopoly in Germany, a deal which had been set up by I.G. Farben. After Hitler came to power,John D. Rockefeller assigned his personal press agent, Ivy Lee, to Hitler to serve as a fulltime advisor on the rearmament of Germany, a necessary step for seting up World War II. Standard Oil then built large refineries in Germany for the Nazis and continued to supply them with oil during World War II. In the 1930's, Standard Oil was receiving in payment from Germany large shipments of musical instruments and ships which had been built in German yards. The dreaded Gestapo, the Nazi police force, was actually built from the worldwide intelligence network which I.G. Farben had maintained since its inception. Herman Schmitz, who had succeeded Carl Bosch as head of I.G., had been personal advisor to Chancellor Breuning; when Hitler took over, Schmitz then became his most trusted secret counselor. So well concealed was the association that the press had orders never to photograph them together. Schmitz was named an honorary member of the Reichstag, while his assistant, Carl Krauch, became Goering's principal advisor in carrying out the Nazis' Four Year Plan. A business associate Richard Krebs, later testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee, "The I.G. Farbinidustrie, I know from personal experience, was already, in 1934, completely in the hands of the Gestapo." This was a misstatement; the I.G. Farben had merely allied itself WITH the Gestapo. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: We Sleep As Mammoths Gamble: Maniacs Pave Way to Hell]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: We Sleep As Mammoths Gamble: Maniacs Pave Way to Hell Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:25:06 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Tuesday, November 2, 1999 We Sleep as Mammoths Gambol Heavily lobbied bill being pushed through this week will end measures put in place in the Depression. By ROBERT SCHEER The American people are suckers, the media that pretends to guard the public interest is asleep at the switch, and electoral democracy is a farce. How else to explain the ease with which the big financial interests have had their way with Congress and the president to the detriment of consumers? Do you know the privacy threat of Senate Bill 900, the "Financial Services Modernization Act," which the Republican leadership is pushing for quick congressional approval this week and which Bill Clinton is expected to sign into law? It effectively will end 65 years of regulation of banking, stock brokerages and insurance companies enacted to protect consumers in response to the debacle of the Great Depression. The new law will allow financial institutions to merge into mammoth entities possessed of unprecedented economic and political power, permitting them to traffic in private information stored in files of their far-flung affiliates concerning the intimate details of your personal life. The chicanery of those pushing this bill in the most heavily financed lobbying effort in U.S. history--over $300 million in lobbying costs and campaign contributions--observes no limits of political principle. Their greed is bipartisan, joining the GOP congressional leadership with the machinations of key players in the Clinton White House, all the while blurring the lines between lobbyists and government officials. Only last week, as the bill was being pushed through a congressional conference committee, Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers rushed back from a trip to China to huddle with lobbyists representing Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and other financial giants. The meeting was closed to the media and public, but one participant told the New York Times that Summers lectured the lobbyists on how to spin this bill so it appears to be in the public interest. "He said it would be very unfortunate if any financial institution were to suggest that they do not see the broad public purpose of this legislation," the lobbyist reported. Also last week, it was announced that Robert E. Rubin, the man who handpicked Summers to replace him as secretary of the Treasury, will take a position as co-chairman of Citigroup, which lobbied heavily for this legislation, as did Goldman Sachs, Rubin's company before joining the Clinton administration. Citigroup was formed last year in a $37.4 billion merger of Citicorp bank and the Travelers Group insurance company, which was tentatively approved on a two-year waiver from existing law forbidding the bank from selling insurance. Under the new law, Citigroup will be made fully legit. This legislation was dead until Rubin, as Treasury secretary, worked out a crucial compromise with Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan last February that allowed the bill to move ahead in Congress. Federal law prohibits government officials from lobbying their former agencies for a year after leaving their government positions. The Clinton administration has extended that to two years. But Rubin has admitted in interviews that he pushed for this bill's passage in the months after resigning from the Cabinet. Why is no one calling him on that? Rubin and Summers were crucial to lining up Clinton's support for this bill, but congressional approval was a sure thing, given the unprecedented campaign contributions and lobbying of the financial industry. The two key players, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Phil Gramm (R-Tex.) and the committee's ranking minority member, Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), have received huge contributions from the industries that will profit mightily from this bill. Opposition has come from a handful of privacy advocates on both sides of the aisle led by Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) in the Senate and Ed Markey (D-Mass.) in the House. Consumer critics have ranged from Phyllis Schlafly's conservative Eagle Forum to Ralph Nader. "We will look back at this and wonder how the country was so asleep," Nader warned. "It's just a nightmare." The bill allows banks, insurance and brokerage firms to merge not only their equity but also the vast accumulation of computerized records on consumers' buying habits, health treatments, investments and credit history. The financial industry lobby defeated all amendments to the bill aimed at ensuring an individual's right to deny the release of personnel data. Indeed, the ability to form a detailed marketable profile of individual consumers was clearly a goal of industry lobbyists. At the very least, as Markey states, "This
Re: [CTRL] Rothschild/Israel article
-Caveat Lector- Thanks, I'll check it out. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Our Embarrassing War Against Drugs]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Our Embarrassing War Against Drugs Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:25:05 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. To: undisclosed-recipients:; INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1999 (House of Representatives - May 07, 1998) Congressional Record (07 May 1998) Without even a passing glance from the mainstream press, new confirmation of CIA involvement in drug trafficking was inserted into the public record by Maxine Waters. Waters included with her testimony an exchange of letters from 1982 between CIA Director William Casey and Attorney General William French Smith which appears to demonstrate Casey's knowledge of drug trafficking by CIA assets and his desire to keep this knowledge away from legal scrutiny. Congressional Record (07 May 1998) [Page: H2954] Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Chairman, I want to take a few minutes to talk about some of the things that aren't being talked about enough. The war on drugs has come up several times today. I think there's some compelling evidence to show how the culture of obsessive secrecy that is part of covert action cultivates an actual and implied climate of impunity. The CIA's Inspector General, Fred Hitz, undertook a massive study into the CIA ties to drug traffickers. Upon completion of the first volume of the 600 page report, Hitz declared that they found `no evidence . . . of any conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States.' Then he announced that hardly any of his findings would be publicly available, casting a long shadow of doubt as to the scope and conclusions of the investigation. A second volume is still in the works. The CIA's credibility when it comes to investigating itself was further brought into question when Hitz disclosed during recent testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that in 1982, the CIA and Attorney General William French Smith had an agreement that the CIA was not required to report allegations of drug smuggling by non-employees. Non-employees was explicitly interpreted to include unpaid and paid assets of the CIA, such as pilots and informants. The memorandum, dated February 11, 1982, states `no formal requirement regarding the reporting of narcotics violations has been included in these procedures', referring to the procedures relating to non-employee crimes. I want to compliment the gentlelady from California, Ms. Waters, for her hard work on this topic and for obtaining this and other relevant memoranda. I ask you, though, is this the war on drugs that President Reagan launched? Nobody here who advocates cuts to the intelligence budget or reforming this intelligence system gone haywire doubts for one second that the U.S. needs reliable information about exports of Russian missile technology or the trade in bacteriological warfare technology. I am a veteran and I know how important intelligence is. But doesn't the above information illustrate why the integrity of our intelligence system is in doubt? The historical record shows that this culture of secrecy too often undermines our foreign and domestic interests. In 1989, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Communications, headed by Senator John Kerry, found that `there was substantial evidence of drug smuggling through the war zone on the part of individual Contras, Contra suppliers, Contra pilots, mercenaries who worked with the Contra supporters throughout the region.' Moreover, U.S. officials `failed to address the drug issue for fear of jeopardizing the war efforts against Nicaragua.' In other words, the drug war was subordinated to the cold war. This is right in line with what we've learned about the memorandum of understanding described above. I am inserting into the Record a list, compiled by the Institute for Policy Studies, which goes through other examples of the troubling history of our intelligence agencies. Congressional Record (07 May 1998) [Page: H2962] (Mr. CONYERS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Chairman, this debate is not what I would like, I say to the floor managers and chairman and ranking member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, because in this 5 minutes back and forth, usually we do not get answered. Let us understand that the Central Intelligence Agency's relationship with drug pushers has not even been mentioned here. It is as if we are in a universe where nobody knows about this except we read it in the paper or we get a GAO study every now and then, or somebody writes about Los Angeles and the introduction of cocaine, which creates a momentary flak. And then we come here to the annual ritual and what do we have? We have people saying the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is one of the most respected bodies in the world system, not the Congress.
[CTRL] GOP News Views - November 11, 1999
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! ** HAPPY VETERANS DAY! ** Clinton to Parents, Teachers: Up Yours! âAt a press briefing yesterday, Bill Clinton was asked whatâs so wrong with local school districts deciding how to spend federal education dollars? Clintonâs response? "Because itâs not their money. If they donât want the money, they donât have to take it. If theyâre offended by it, they can give it to other states and other school districts." Translation: All the money belongs to Washington, so itâs our way or the highway!â - RNC Chairman Jim Nicholson, 11/10/99 *** Clinton Pot Calls Greek Kettle Black Faced with growing crowds of angry protesters, Bill Clinton did exactly what we all would expect a coward to do...he canceled his plans to spend three days in Greece during an upcoming overseas trip. The official White House excuse for chickening out was âsecurity,â according to presidential mouthpiece Joe Lockhart. More likely, the vaunted Clinton PR machine was distressed at the prospect of worldwide TV broadcasting angry protests by people who are P.O.âd with the United States for dropping tons upon tons of bombs on Kosovars (or is it Kosovarians?) just to secure some kind of âwarriorâ legacy for a man who dodged his own nationâs call to duty. But the ultimate hypocrisy was the White Houseâs contention that Greece hadnât done enough to crack down on a terrorist group that has killed 21 people since 1975. But wasnât it Bill Clinton himself who just released 16 terrorists from American prisons only two months ago? âChutzpahâ thy name is Clinton. *** Al(pha) Gore The Big Bad Wolf âAs the Clinton administration became more and more corrupt, Al Gore abandoned more and more of his squeaky clean, upright, uptight image. He descended to level of just another Clinton flacker. ... Now that Al Gore has sold his soul, prostituted his principles, and whored his way into this swamp, he's looking for some gimmick to save his sorry keester. So he hires a saucy little vixen named Naomi Wolf, someone even the Washington Post calls a controversial feminist. ... Wolf, on the Gore payroll at fifteen grand a month, is obsessed with sex and has advocated...teaching kids masturbation and oral sex so they don't have to have intercourse. So far, we don't know whether it was these bizarre sexual fetishes that attracted Al Gore's attention. ... So here's the pathetic cultural squalor in which Al Gore finds himself. Having sacrificed morality and integrity to be in power, he now has hired as a wardrobe supervisor - someone who wants to teach masturbation to kids. This might turn out to be a third Clinton term after all.â - Thomas Jipping, Free Congress Foundation, 11/10/99 *** The Drive for 695 Itâs just not possible to overemphasize the significance of the passage of Initiative 695 by Washington state voters last week. Most importantly, of course, it completely refutes the Democratsâ and the left-wing mediaâs contention that voters donât care about tax cuts. They do. But the cuts have to be real, meaningful, and easy to comprehend. Republicans in Congress were trying to pass a $792 billion tax cut this summer. A laudable - if not marketable - effort. What average American can relate to $792 billion? And what does that actually mean to a typical American family? It wasnât clear - and it wasnât specific. Neither was Bob Doles 15% tax cut proposal during his doomed presidential campaign in 1996. Contrast those with I-695: âShall voter approval be required for any tax increase, license tab fees be $30 per year for motor vehicles, and existing vehicle taxes be repealed?â Simple, straight-forward, easy to understand, easy to relate to. No wonder voters enthusiastically and overwhelmingly voted for this particular tax cut. If Republicans in Congress and our GOP presidential candidates stop talking about âbillionsâ and âpercentagesâ and come up with a real tax cut plan that the American people can easily relate to and understand from a personal viewpoint - like Initiative 695 - Campaign 2000 is over. ** Voters Say No To Taxpayer-Funded Elections The Wall Street Journal reported this week that only 11.3% of taxpayers are checking off the âyesâ box on their tax return to direct $3 of their taxes to the presidential election fund. And thatâs BEFORE it becomes widely understood that money from this fund is going to prop up quixotic campaigns for folks like Pat Buchanan - who couldnât garner major party support - and certifiable nutcases like Lyndon LaRouche.
[CTRL] Physical FORCE
-Caveat Lector- Now I gather by now we are getting the picture..Everywhere we look we see frequencies..Numbers and their relationship to each other..Mathematics I guess. I think the fashionable term is Matrix.. And, what does the letter E mean in Emotions.? I will spare you my thoughts ladies ;) Peter. @ Physical FORCE - What It REALLY IS! Most orthodox physicists do NOT know what force REALLY IS. The best they can do is define it in terms of what it DOES. But according to a GENERAL UNIFIED Theory of physical Reality developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson, each force is a MOTION, or a COMBINATION OF MOTIONS, or a RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MOTIONS, including INWARD OUTWARD SCALAR MOTIONS, as TRANSLATIONAL, VIBRATIONAL, ROTA- TIONAL, or ROTATIONAL-VIBRATIONAL motions. http://www.randomc.com/~rs We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The micrchip is it the mark of the beast?
-Caveat Lector- - SNETNEWS Mailing List -Original Message- From: Light Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 1999 6:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Greetings from Holland Greetings from Holland I received an email (further below) about "the Mark" with your direction. I am following quite close this issue and posted a Special Report; "The Mark Is Ready! Are You?" on my Light Network website. FOR A COMPILATION OF THE ARTICLES; "The Mark Is Ready! Are You?" (including a US patent for the implantable chips) go to; http://www.iaehv.nl/users/lightnet/world/mark.htm My question is if you can provide me with the article or any other (in Word or HTM) which might be interesting to post it on my Special Report. Thank you very much, regards and blessings with the Light which never fails, Jan van Toorn/Light Network http://www.iaehv.nl/users/lightnet --- X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/thepentagonguru/ Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Duplicate: Duplicate(2)--1425885171 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:00:54 -0700 From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ThePentagonGuru] Mark of the Beast? Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you read this, pay close attention to the part about when children are born. This can only happen if you allow your children to be "born" in a hospital where "they" can create the birth certificate record and mark the child, with a number and a microchip. David G. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [piml] The Microchip is this the Mark of the Beast? The Microchip is this the Mark of the Beast? Dr Carl W. Sanders is an electronics engineer, inventor, author and consultant to various government organizations as well as IBM, General Electric, Honeywell and Teledyne. He is also a winner of the Presidents and Governors Award for Design Excellence. "Thirty two years of my life was spent in design engineering and electronics designing microchips in the Bio-Med field. In 1968 I became involved, almost by accident, in a research and development project in regard to a spinal bypass for a young lady who had severed her spine. They were looking at possibly being able to connect motor nerves etc. It was a project we were all excited about. There were 100 people involved and I was senior engineer in charge of the project. This project culminated in the microchip that we talk about now a - microchip that I believe is going to be the positive identification and mark of the beast. This microchip is recharged by body temperature changes. Obviously you can't go in and have your battery changed every so often, so the microchip has a recharging circuit that charges based upon the body temperature changes. Over one and a half million dollars was spent finding out that the two places in the body that the temperature changes the most rapidly are in the forehead (primary position), right below the hairline, and the back of the hand (alternative position). Working on the microchip, we had no idea about it ever being an identification chip. We looked at it as being a very humanitarian thing to do. We were all excited about what we were doing. We were doing high-level integration for the very first time. This team was made up of people out of San Jose, people from Motorola, General Electric, Boston Medical Center - it was quite a group of people. My responsibility had to do with the design of the chip itself, not the medical side of if. As the chip came to evolve, there came a time in the project when they said that the financial return on bypassing severed spines is not a very lucrative thing for us to be into, so we really need to look at some other areas. We noticed that the frequency of the chip had a great effect upon behavior and so we began to branch off and look possibly at behavior modification. The project almost turned into electronic acupuncture because what they ended up with was embedding the microchip to put out a signal which effected certain areas. They were able to determine that you could cause behavioral change. One of the projects was called the Phoenix project which had to do with Vietnam veterans. We had a chip that was called the Rambo chip. This chip would actually cause extra adrenaline flow. I wonder how many people know that if you can stop the output of the the pituitary gland (the signal from the pituitary gland that causes oestrogen flow), you can put a person into instant menopause and there is no conception. This was tested in India and other different parts of the world. So here you have got a birth control tool, based on a microchip. Microchips can also be used
[CTRL] New Holes in Texas
-Caveat Lector- Anyone know anything about this? -Original Message- From: Fred Stair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 22 October 1999 2:10 Subject: Re: New Holes SayLooks like Big Bend area of Texas is trying to become new area 51...Lots of activity, Military. Some craft are very strange...This area is very remote around Marathon, Texas, and a prime place to tryout new stuffHas anyone seen Triangle shaped craft??? Fairly large. big enough to cover up mountain peak as it hovered over it.This is the first place I have seen the "black helicoptors" in formation...What are they??? No markings I am member of MUFON for past two years and find all this very interesting Have a good day. Marathon Man Alvin Hartley wrote: Hi, I was wondering about if there are any info on how to get into the area51 compound. Has anyone tried and made it? Is there amy openings outside the perimiter of the compound? Are there any new photo's of recent movements. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [ISO] Abduction DNA
-Caveat Lector- Sorry if this has been posted way back, but worth saving for the archives.. -Original Message- From: ISO Mail System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 23 June 1999 1:44 Subject: [ISO] Abduction DNA We are 'In Search Of' honest answers of truth. Each posting must reflect personal respect, integrity, honesty, and full disclosure of information. -- From: "Marko Zgela" [EMAIL PROTECTED] DNA SAMPLE FROM ABDUCTION CASE RAISES BIG QUESTIONS Mystery Blonde Leaves Hair Behind -- But Who Was She? An abduction case from Australia has resulted in what may be the world's first DNA test of abduction-related biological material. The intriguing results raise many questions about the physical nature of abduction and also illustrate the need for more intensive scientific research on this worldwide mystery. The full case report by leading Australian researcher Bill Chalker is published in the Spring 1999 edition of International UFO Reporter, the quarterly journal of the Chicago-based J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). The following summary is published with Chalker's permission and assistance. Peter Khoury, the subject of this case, was born in Lebanon in 1964 and moved to Australia in 1973. There he met his future wife Vivian at school in 1981. Peter and Vivian were married in 1990 and now have two children. They live in Sydney. Peter works in the building trades and has owned his own business in cement rendering. Peter and Vivian had their first UFO experience in February 1988, a simple sighting of unusual moving lights. But in July of that year, Peter had a deeply disturbing, consciously remembered contact experience that, he says, changed his life. While lying on his bed, he felt something grab his ankles. He suddenly felt numb and paralyzed, but remained conscious. Then he noticed three or four small hooded figures alongside the bed. He experienced telepathic communication with one or more of these beings; he was told to relax and not be afraid because "it would be like last time." He then saw that they were about to insert a long needle into the side of his head, whereupon he blacked out. He jolted awake some time later, leaped out of bed and ran into the living room where he found his father and brother apparently dozing. Both he and his brother felt that only 10 minutes had passed since they had last been awake, but they soon realized that an hour or more had passed. The next morning, Peter and Vivian noticed that there was an obvious puncture mark on the side of his head, with a trace of dried blood. At this time, Peter had never heard of alien abduction. His memories were vivid and alarming, but he could find neither answers nor comfort from friends and acquaintances. Then, some months later, he and Vivian drove by a roadside billboard with an image of Whitley Strieber's book "Communion," and they immediately got the book. Peter found numerous details in Strieber's account that matched his own strange experience. Peter's subsequent attempts to connect with local UFO groups and experiencers proved frustrating. Eventually, in April 1993, he resolved to found a new group in Sydney, the UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA), dedicated to helping people understand and cope with their unusual encounters. He remains the coordinator of that group today. In July 1992, Peter had the experience that became the focus of this case study. Because the experience had disturbing sexual aspects, Peter was very reticent to talk about it. He first mentioned it to Bill Chalker, one of Australia's leading researchers, in 1996. He showed Chalker that he had recovered an unusual strand of hair from the encounter. At the time, Chalker felt he could not do anything with the physical evidence, but over the next several years, he assembled a group of scientists and forensic investigators willing to work on UFO-related cases. With his "invisible college" associates, Chalker discussed the possibility of doing polymerase chain reaction (PCR) amplification and sequencing of mitochondrial DNA that might be recovered from Peter Khoury's hair sample. In early 1998, these researchers -- now calling themselves the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group -- agreed to do the DNA testing on the hair sample. Chalker points out that "alien" beings are most often described by experiencers as having no visible hair. But one type -- sometimes called "Nordic" -- is described fairly often as having distinctly human-like features including hair, often (though not always) blond in color. A number of well-known abduction cases have involved human-looking beings with hair, including the 1975 abduction reported by Travis Walton in Arizona, and the 1957 Brazilian abduction reported by Antonio Villas Boas. Peter Khoury's case has some similarity to that of Villas Boas, who said he was forced to have sex with an aggressive humanoid female aboard a landed UFO. Khoury
[CTRL] Shakeup At the IMF, And the Global Shakeup Yet to Come
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update November 11, 1999 Shakeup At the IMF, And the Global Shakeup Yet to Come Summary International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Michel Camdessus tendered his resignation Nov. 9, citing personal reasons. In the midst of several investigations into money laundering of IMF loans in Russia, the timing raises questions over the extent to which the institution has been tainted by the scandals. In addition, the internal debate over the IMF's future direction will now play out in the choice of a new managing director; Asian nations seek more influence over the IMF. A battle is now brewing over the future leadership and the viability of the IMF is ultimately at stake. A discredited and paralyzed IMF, in turn, would threaten the fabric of the global financial system. Analysis Michel Camdessus, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), announced that he would step down by mid-February 2000. Camdessus cited personal reasons, and said it was a good time for transition in the institutional leadership. Camdessus suggested that he took the appointment in 1997 knowing he wouldn't serve the full five-year term - but he didn't want a change in leadership in the middle of Asia's financial crisis. Camdessus said that for him to complete his current term "would be inappropriate in a world in permanent need of renewal of its institutions." His move comes as investigations into possible misappropriation and money laundering of IMF funds from Russia intensify. In addition, the IMF and other international lending institutions have recently admitted that assistance programs linked with stiff austerity requirements may have actually added to the difficulties in some recipient nations in Asia. His action may be linked to opposition to the IMF's unpopular practice of linking aid to austerity measures as well as the need to keep the IMF from being dragged into the Russia money laundering scandal. Whether IMF officials were directly involved in the Russian bank scandal, or it was simply a case of mismanagement, the IMF is nonetheless faced with a crucial leadership decision. The debate over the next IMF leader may well leave the institution paralyzed, as factions push for a leader who will redefine policy in their terms. The fundamental battle is between the United States, the IMF's biggest donor, which demands that loans be conditioned on radical free market reforms, and other donors and recipients, who argue that loans should be sensitive to individual concerns and situations. A key example is found in the underlying tension over whether capital controls are legitimate economic tools. Since Asia's financial crisis, when Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad refused IMF assistance, opting instead for capital controls, the issue has triggered hot debate. Malaysia's economic recovery, independent of IMF assistance and without severe economic reforms and social consequences, has inspired other Asian IMF recipients to support, or at least not condemn, limited capital controls [ http://www.stratfor.com/asia/aiuarchive/b990226.htm ]. Beyond capital controls, the debate is between proponents of a unified, global economic system and proponents of more regional options. With Camdessus no longer at the helm, these factions will attempt to wield their influence during the search for a new managing director. This will pit nations like the United States - advocates of the one-solution-fits-all free-market policy - against countries like Japan, which is supportive of more regional economic security nets, including an often-proposed Asian Monetary Fund. The United States will likely call for more auditing, tighter controls, transparency and restrictions in light of the Russian bank scandal. However, these very principles have been tearing the IMF apart all along, as they contrast with the desires of nations like Japan and recipient nations, forced to accept stringent reforms while begging for assistance. As with the long-running debate over the choice of the World Trade Organization (WTO) head earlier this year [ http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/GIU/050699.ASP ], the selection of a replacement for Camdessus will likely paralyze the management of the IMF. If accusations of institutional complicity, or even gross mismanagement or neglect, in the Russian scandal are raised, the IMF will be further discredited. The debate opened by Camdessus' resignation, then, threatens the very viability of the organization. The IMF is the key proponent of the idea of a unified global economy. If it is crippled by infighting and potentially discredited by scandal, such a global economic system itself is in jeopardy. This, in turn, would lend credence to calls for regional systems operating under differing rules. It may also trigger new or relapsed economic crises, as donor nations call in
[CTRL] Say 'no' to McCain
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! -- -- Say 'no' to McCain © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Some weeks ago WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah was ravaged by some of our readers for daring to question the honor and probity of Sen. John McCain. Some readers sent -- shall we say -- very disparaging e-mail to our publication criticizing the boss for calling into question McCain's personal integrity. I'll admit I too was a little shocked to learn of the things Joe said about McCain and his actions while a POW in Vietnam. But I've known Joe too long -- as have many of his critics -- to have simply written off his McCain characterizations as the rantings of a lunatic or the mere rumblings of sour grapes. I've also known that WorldNetDaily has consistently taken the lead on many stories and issues that ultimately prove to be true and accurate. So I gave him the benefit of doubt. So it was no surprise to me that, once again, Joe was accurate in his characterization of a U.S. politician. When I learned that the good senator had illegally filmed a television campaign commercial in Arlington National Cemetery, every supposition Joe made about McCain's shady integrity rang true. Calling a scumbag a scumbag is entirely appropriate when you're right, but in today's world, sounding mean and intolerant is often considered much worse than actually being mean and intolerant. That's too bad because it isn't true. Essentially, this is the issue. Arlington National Cemetery, a hallowed "final resting place" for our country's most valued and honored military veterans -- and a place already exploited and cheapened by the Clinton administration -- has a rule. That rule says, "We are not partisan and you cannot use this hallowed place in any partisan political manner, period." McCain basically gave the finger to the Arlington managerial board and filmed his commercial there anyway. Then, after being called up on the matter and told he violated the law, he again repudiated the board and decided to air his precious little partisan commercial anyway. In an extreme act of lameness, his campaign staff told reporters, "Hey -- the senator always visits his father and grandfather here anyway. We just happened to film him during one such visit." Sure -- and that film just "happened" to be edited into a cheap campaign commercial. Please. McCain broke the law. He did it for the most selfish and self-serving reason. His actions were entirely "partisan." He was filming a campaign commercial, for goodness sakes. But he is not going to be punished, more than likely, and he is obviously not sorry that he did it. One tends to think, by his and his staff's incessant denials, that they'd all do it again "if necessary" to win the GOP nomination. I have no doubt they would. I also have no doubt that this entire stunt reeks of Bill Clinton. And isn't this just the kind of president we want following Bill Clinton into the White House -- a self-aggrandizing, exploitative political animal with no conscience, no sense of decency and honor, and no respect for the law? In a word, no. I was suspicious of McCain anyway because I trusted what Joe had written and because of McCain's generally favorable treatment by a mainstream press that ordinarily has little use for anyone calling themselves a Republican or a conservative. His tacky Arlington publicity stunt just ices the cake for me regarding consideration of a future President John McCain -- which is to say, not now and not ever. Furthermore the reaction -- or rather, the lack of it -- by the remainder of the Republican Party is, in and of itself, telling. Where is the outrage? Some of the same people who were ready to tar and feather Bill Clinton for granting Arlington burial waivers to phonies and charlatans are now silent about McCain's arrogant disregard. Can you say hypocritical? Is this the kind of politics Americans really want? Does McCain represent the kind of politician that can bring America back to a state of relative morality, dignity and honor? Would he be the kind of president that will instill confidence in our "leadership" among our allies, win hearts and minds and influence others to emulate our example of liberty? No, he isn't. So why are we still taking him seriously? It is becoming almost unbearable to listen to liberals and conservatives alike describe as somehow "harmful to the nation" the kind of honor depicted by candidates like Buchanan, Keyes, and Browne -- especially when the alternatives are little more than repackaged players of "The System." If "The System" is broken -- Gore, Bradley, Bush and even McCain have all asserted that it is -- then a company man makes a
[CTRL] U.S. eyes China first-strike threat Nuclear-tipped missiles
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! U.S. eyes China first-strike threat Nuclear-tipped missiles set for deployment on destroyers By Charles Smith © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com The Pentagon is reportedly investigating allegations that China will deploy nuclear-tipped missiles on two Russian-built Sovremenny-class destroyers, said by one defense expert to be warships designed to start a nuclear war. Reports of nuclear warheads on the new Chinese anti-ship missiles first appeared inside a new book called "Red Dragon Rising." According to the book's co-author, William Triplett, each Chinese warship is equipped with eight nuclear-tipped, Russian-made Moskit anti-ship missiles -- each armed with a warhead equal to over 120,000 tons of TNT. "The Sovremenny is strictly an offensive platform," stated Triplett during a WorldNetDaily interview. "Ed (Timperlake) and I are the only two Americans that have ever been on a Sovremenny," said Triplett. "It has virtually no stealth. It can't hide. It is intended to attack. The vessel is designed to fire its nuclear tipped missiles and die." Atomic bomb blast at Bikini Atoll in 1946 towers over warships used as targets. The new Chinese missile can deliver a nuclear bomb six times as powerful. Triplett also openly charged the missiles arming the new warships are nuclear-tipped. "Each warhead is six times more powerful than the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima," said Triplett. "The new missiles are designed specifically to destroy American carriers and Aegis cruisers with a single nuclear blast." According to the U.S. Naval Institute, in August 1999, the first of two 8,480-ton Russian Navy Project 956A destroyers built for China conducted trials in the eastern Baltic. Each 956A warship is armed with eight supersonic 3M82 Moskit sea-skimming missiles (NATO code-named SS-N-22 "Sunburn"). The first Chinese warship was built originally for the Soviet navy, as the Vazhnyy in 1988. The ship was launched in May 1994 and renamed the Yekaterinburg before work was halted. In 1996, the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy negotiated to buy the Yekaterinburg and another 956A class destroyer named the Alexandr Nevskiy. The Yekaterinburg is due for delivery by the end of 1999 and the second destroyer by the end of 2000. In July 1999, Richard D. Fisher, a defense analyst for Rep. Christopher Cox, R-Calif., wrote an evaluation of the Russian-built Moskit missile being sold to China. According to Fisher, the U.S. Navy cannot stop the Moskit. "The Raduga Moskit anti-ship missile is perhaps the most lethal anti-ship missile in the world," wrote Fisher in a review of the Chinese navy. Illustration by Charles Smith "The Moskit combines a Mach 2.5 speed with a very low-level flight pattern that uses violent end maneuvers to throw off defenses. After detecting the Moskit, the U.S. Navy Phalanx point-defense system may have only 2.5 seconds to calculate a fire solution -- not enough time before the devastating impact of a 750-lb. warhead." There is evidence supporting the allegations that the U.S. Navy cannot stop the Moskit. The only U.S. missile capable of duplicating the Moskit's blistering low-level performance is the Allied Signal Vandal. Vandal target drones are reported to have penetrated U.S. Navy air defenses during recent trials. However, a Clinton administration deal with Moscow has left the U.S. Navy without a means to simulate the Moskit anti-ship missile threat. The updated Vandal target drone, re-named the Sea Snake, was canceled in 1999 by the Clinton administration in favor of purchasing a Russian target drone, the Zvezda MA-31. According to official U.S. Navy statements, the Zvezda MA-31 target drone cannot duplicate the Moskit performance. "The U.S. Navy has no defense against this missile system," stated "Red Dragon Rising" author Triplett. "One nuclear-tipped SS-N-22 (Moskit) will kill thousands of American sailors, airmen and Marines. The message to the U.S. Navy is clear: Stay away or die." **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
[CTRL] Starr: 'Major Facts' in Whitewater Probe Still to Come
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Tuesday November 9, 11:37 PM Starr: 'Major Facts' in Whitewater Probe Still to Come Could there be major Clinton scandal bombshells yet to explode? That's what recently retired independent counsel Kenneth Starr seemed to suggest Tuesday night, in an exclusive interview with Fox News Channel's Paula Zahn. Travelgate and alleged attempts to intimidate Clinton assault victim Kathleen Willey remain under active investigation. But the all-encompassing Whitewater probe, which covered those areas as well as Vince Foster's death, Filegate and Sexgate, was thought to be winding down. Starr bluntly indicated that there were "major facts" yet to be revealed when questioned directly by the Fox host: ZAHN: Is there a lot more about this investigation that we're not privy to, that we're going to hear more about in the months to come? Or do we basically know all the major facts? STARR: No, you do not. There are still aspects of the investigation that are under way. I can't comment on them. It's now out of my hands and in the good hands of [newly appointed independent counsel] Bob Ray. So I would just say, let's allow him to do his work in a professional way. ZAHN: Can you tell us if any of that information you've been privy to could possibly lead to more indictments? STARR: I don't think I should be commenting with respect to that. But there were active phases of the investigation when I was still the independent counsel. But that's now three weeks ago. And what about Hillary? Starr strongly hinted that his prosecutors believed she had committed crimes. But they didn't think they could prove it in court. ZAHN: Is it fair to say, if Hillary Clinton had done anything wrong legally, she would have been indicted by now? Is she off the hook? STARR: Well, with respect to the first part of the question the short answer is, prosecutors have to determine, and it's a tough determination, that there is evidence admissible in court that would convince a fair-minded jury to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors typically say there's a difference between what we know and what we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. ZAHN: So what does that mean? Is she home free and clear? STARR: I'm going to leave it right there. But the investigation does continue in certain aspects, and it's in very good hands with Bob Ray. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Speaking of monopolies
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! --- - -- -- Speaking of monopolies By Samuel L. Blumenfeld © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's ruling that Microsoft is a monopoly raises the question of how that monopoly is to be remedied or abolished. The judge wrote, "Microsoft has demonstrated that it will use its prodigious market power and immense profits to harm any firm that insists on pursuing initiatives that could intensify competition." But the hallmark of a true monopoly is that it has the force of government behind it, like the public schools, and can charge the highest price for the shoddiest goods, which is what the government schools do. Microsoft is certainly not a monopoly in that sense. It has given consumers an excellent product at a very good price. In fact, it is the knowledge of potential competitors waiting in the wings that forces Microsoft to offer its products at a very reasonable price. If consumers thought that there was a better product at a better price that would give them what they now get from Microsoft, they'd abandon Microsoft in a minute. Apparently, the Justice Department is very selective in how it views monopolies. For example, there is one government-sanctioned monopoly in this country that has more power than all past monopolies put together. It's called the Federal Reserve System. Here's what a reporter in Worth magazine of November 1998 wrote about it: The U.S. Federal Reserve is the most powerful central bank in the world. It can send stock markets around the world soaring or crashing with merely a word, and wipe out or create billions of dollars with a hint. Now that's a monopoly! That's the kind of colossal power the opponents of the Federal Reserve Act feared in 1913 when they voted against the creation of a central bank. Andrew Jackson knew that such a monopoly was bad when in 1832 he vetoed the extension of the charter of the Bank of the United States and withdrew federal funds from it. The bank was hated in its day and considered a "hydra-headed monster, a grinding monopoly, robbing the people, making money dear, ruining State banks, and causing hard times." Jackson wrote in his veto message: Many of our rich men have not been content with equal protection and equal benefits, but have besought us to make them richer by act of Congress. By attempting to gratify their desires we have in the results of our legislation arrayed section against section, interest against interest, and man against man, in a fearful commotion which threatens to shake the foundations of our Union. It is time to pause in our career to review our principles, and if possible revive that devoted patriotism and spirit of compromise which distinguished the sages of the Revolution and the fathers of our Union. From that time on, the American people thought that a central bank was a bad idea and stayed away from it. England, France and Germany had central banks, but that was Europe where monopolies and cartels were part of the system. But in the U.S. monopolies and cartels were finally made illegal with the passage of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890, which was used to break up John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust. So, how were the bankers able to get Congress to create the biggest monopoly of them all? The plan was conceived by a cabal of New York moneyed interests that met in secret on Jekyll Island, Ga., at the private resort of J.P. Morgan in November of 1910. The participants were Nelson W. Aldrich, Republican senator, chairman of the National Monetary Commission, business associate of J.P. Morgan, and father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller Jr.; Abraham Piatt Andrew, assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury; Frank A. Vanderlip, president of National City Bank of New York, representing William Rockefeller and Kuhn, Loeb Company; Henry P. Davison, senior partner of J.P. Morgan; Charles D. Norton, president of J.P. Morgan's First National Bank; Benjamin Strong, head of J.P. Morgan's Banker's Trust Company; and Paul Warburg, partner in Kuhn, Loeb Company. All of these gentlemen rode in secret to Jekyll Island aboard Aldrich's private railway car. It is obvious from the roster that this was an inside deal made between corrupt politicians and big money. Thus, when Aldrich presented his plan for a central bank to the Congress in 1910, it was rejected. A second version was introduced in 1913, and this time, there was a president, Woodrow Wilson, who would not veto the plan as Andrew Jackson had done. Indeed, Wilson had been put in the White House by the very men masterminding the Fed. The basic argument for the Federal Reserve System was that it would provide
Re: [CTRL] OT: Pat Robertson is Ready for the Revolution (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "700 Club"? Somewhat similarity with "Committe of 300"?! (kiding!) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:31:43 -0700, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: ROBERTSON URGES REVOLT, TELLS VIEWERS: "THROW OFF THE SHACKLES" OF THE COURTS On his TV "700 Club" broadcast today, TV preacher Pat Robertson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israel Simulates Quakes-Screws Environment
-Caveat Lector- Sci/Tech Fake quake shakes Israel Many tourists visit the Dead Sea By BBC News Online's Damian Carrington Over 5,000 kilograms of explosives have been detonated in the Dead Sea, producing a blast that will improve the monitoring network which detects nuclear weapon tests and earthquakes. The BBC's Paul Adams: "Seismologists all over the world were put on standby" The explosion, 100m below the surface, created a bright flash and sent a spurt of water high into the air. The tremors were equivalent to an earthquake of magnitude four on the Richter scale. "These tests are to calibrate two stations which are part of an international monitoring network, set up to support the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CBTB)," said Dr Aoife O'Mongain, at the British Geological Survey, which is helping with the tests. Experts from the United States and Russia have witnessed the tests. Russia's military attache told journalists that the experiments were of military interest. Environmental damage But, Israeli Environment Ministry and environmental groups have criticised the tests, saying they could damage the sea's ecosystem. The Environment Ministry had tried to stop the test blasts. Ministry spokesman Yiftah Kramer said: "We have to be sure there is no damage to the environment, to the rivers that flow to the sea, to the caves and nature reserves around there.". The Dead Sea's extreme salinity allows only bacteria to survive Ofer Ben-Dov of Greenpeace Israel added: " You have to be very careful in such a delicate area and I'm not sure they have taken all the necessary precautions." However, Avi Shapira of Israel's Seismology Department in the Geophysical Institute said two studies carried out by the Institute and the Geological Survey of Israel had "addressed all the problems" of environmental safety. An Institute statement stated there is: "no hazard to the people, property and the environment". They add that explosions "have no effect on the environment because there is no plant or animal life in the Dead Sea because of its high salt content." Millisecond accuracy Two earlier blasts using 500 kg and 2,000 kg explosive charges had already been detonated to test for environmental damage before the main test. The timing of the tests is controlled with millisecond accuracy and the location to five metres. This means the source of the artificial earthquake is known and so the effect of the rocks in the region on the signal can be worked out. Dr O'Mongain told BBC News Online that this will "help a lot" in precisely identifying the force and epicentre of future nuclear tests and earthquakes, and in distinguishing between the two. The tests are part of a project called "Improvements in Monitoring the CTBT in the Middle East by the Israel Seismic Network " which is funded by the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency. Scientists last released a controlled explosion in the Dead Sea in 1977 but this type of test occurs around the world more frequently. The last was in Kazhakstan in 1998. Dr Shapira rejected the possibility that the blast could trigger a natural earthquake, pointing out that much bigger nuclear blasts in the past had never managed to have this effect. An earthquake in Turkey which occurred at about the same time was not related to the blast. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alternative Energy Institute, Inc.
-Caveat Lector- a friend at the Alternative Energy Institute, Inc. 1999 INE SYMPOSIUM REVIEW http://www.altenergy.org/ine-99/INE/ine.html Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Dan Sewell Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Alternative Energy Institute, Inc. http://www.altenergy.org/ine-99/Dr__Dan_Ward_/dr__dan_ward_.html Dr. Dan Ward Dr. Dan Sewell Ward is not your typical buttoned-down physicist. Although he holds a Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics from the University of Texas at Austin, as well as a Bachelor of Engineering Science from the same institution, his interest in esoteric knowledge has led him to study zero point energy, cold fusion, sacred geometry, ancient history, hyper-dimensional physics, and even the enigma of crop circles. Dr. Ward has authored more than 120 technical and semi-technical articles in a variety of scientific journals, magazines and conference proceedings, and has been conducting research in diverse scientific disciplines for more than thirty years. Among his interests are nuclear and elementary particle physics, the science, economics and politics of alternative energy systems, and the potential of solar energy. In fact, when he was Associate Director of the Solar Energy Applications Laboratory and manager for the National Science Foundation, Dr. Ward secured major funding grants for three experimental solar houses, one of which is the world's first solar heated and solar cooled home. Dr. Ward has embraced this idea of science moored in shifting sand and his innovative thinking frequently pushes the boundaries of conventional thought. During his tenure as an associate professor at Colorado State University, Dr. Ward has also taught Physics and Civil Engineering. An internationally recognized expert in Solar Energy, Dr. Ward has visited Japan, India, Brazil, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Canada and various site throughout the United States. He is President and Chief Scientist of Quantum Genesis, L.L.C., located in Fort Collins, Colorado. Dr. Ward also enjoys directing and acting in plays at the local Civic Theatre, writing screenplays, novels, and articles for the Internet, and considers himself a humorist (he specializes in puns). Currently Dr. Ward is interested in establishing Halexandria University, "a college of the InterNet specializing in esoteric, exoteric and universal knowledge, as well as paradigm shifting realities." Dr. Ward was invited to the INE symposium to present his revolutionary ideas on "Inertial Field Theory -- A Radical Change of Pace." Despite his many accomplishments in academia and the new energy field, Dr. Ward doesn't take himself too seriously. He took the podium with a smile brimming from ear to ear to explain that he considers himself "sneaky" when it comes to science and that he often plays the role of Devil's Advocate to develop critical thought with both students and colleagues. Dr. Ward's devilish logic became quickly evident as he began his presentation by saying, "The scientific method generally consists of assumptions, observations and inferences. What we tend to forget a lot of the time is the first word, assumptions. When it comes to the laws of physics, we have theories, which are all based on assumptions. And quite often, it's in the assumptions where we all go wrong. Theories are just mathematical approximations of reality. Physicists think they're getting close, but who knows." Ward continued by stating, "The key is that experiment and observation drives physics, not the theory." To bolster his view that the scientific method is far from perfect Dr. Ward repeated a comment made in 1960 by physicist William Davis: "The whole structure of science is a cracked and sagging edifice held together with masking tape and resting on the shifting sands of constantly changing theory. Nothing is known with any real certainty, some concepts are just more probable than others. Well-known theories and even Laws turn out to be partially confirmed hypotheses, waiting to be replaced by somewhat better partially confirmed hypotheses. There is one thing we know about every theory in modern physics, is that it is wrong or at least incomplete. Sooner or later somebody will come along with a more general theory, in which the old theory seemed to be a special case. This is not a criticism of science, but merely a description of the scientific method." Dr. Ward has embraced this idea of science moored in shifting sand and his innovative thinking frequently pushes the boundaries of conventional thought. His radical Inertial Field Theory is a new concept utilizing an extension of classical mechanics and electrodynamics. Inertial Field Technologies (IFT) are based on work done in the early 1960s by pioneers in the field such as William Davis, G. Harry Stine, and others. The very significant research
[CTRL] THE GENOCIDE AGENDA HISTORY OF GUN CONTROL
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart THE GENOCIDE AGENDA HISTORY OF "GUN CONTROL" By Uri Dowbenko Media Columnist [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html There's absolutely no doubt gun control laws lead to genocide, says Aaron Zelman. Zelman, Executive Director of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO), believes that the case against gun control is self-evident. He cites historical statistics to prove his point. In the 20th Century, there have been at least seven major genocides, he reveals. At least 56 million persons, including millions of children, have been murdered by officials of what he calls "governments gone bad." The body count includes: 1. Ottoman Turkey (1915-1917) - 1.5 million Armenians murdered 2. Soviet Union (1929-1953) - 20 million people who opposed Stalin murdered 3. Nazi-occupied Europe (1933-1945) - 13 million people, including Jews, Gypsies and others who opposed Hitler, murdered 4. China (1948-1952) - 20 million anti-communists, not including Tibetans, murdered 5. Guatemala (1960-1981) - 100,000 Mayan Indians murdered 6. Uganda (1971-1979) - 300,000 Christians and rivals of Idi Amin murdered 7. Cambodia (1975-1979) - 1 million persons murdered In every case, before the wholesale slaughter began, at least one "gun control" law was on the book, says Zelman. In recent cases of US armed intervention, in which citizens were murdered in their own countries, Haiti had a "gun control" law (December 22, 1922, amended October 1, 1980) and so did Bosnia, when it was part of the former Yugoslavia (September 17, 1964). The cynical arms embargo against the Bosnian Muslims, by the way, prevented people from defending themselves against Bosnian Serb so-called "ethnic cleansing." Nazi Parallels With American Gun Control Laws In a fascinating book called Gun Control: Gateway To Tyranny, authors Jay Simkin and Aaron Zelman show that the Nazi Weapons Law (March 18, 1938) is the source of the US Gun Control Act of 1968. In the book, the official German text of the Nazi law is presented side-by-side with its American counterpart. A section-by-section comparison with the American Gun Control Act of 1968 shows the undeniable lineage. Thus America's draconian gun control laws remain one of Hitler's lasting legacies. According to the authors, the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938 replaced a Law on Firearms and Ammunition (April 13, 1928). The 1928 law was enacted by the German Government to curb so-called "gang activity," violent street battles between Nazi and Communist thugs. Sound familiar? In America, "gang activity" has also been used as a pretext by strident anti-gunners. "Gun control did not save democracy in Germany," says Zelman. "It helped to make sure that the toughest criminals, the Nazis, prevailed. Then, when the Nazis inherited the lists of firearms and their owners in March, 1933, they used these registration lists to seize privately-held firearms from persons who were 'unreliable.' "In 1938, five years after taking power, the Nazis enhanced the 1928 law with the Nazi Weapons Law which introduced handgun control. Firearms ownership was restricted to Nazi party members and other reliables, while Jews were barred altogether." Conclusion? A disarmed population can be slaughtered much more efficiently. NRA Maintains Status Quo Controlled opposition groups like the National Rifle Association (NRA) have done little to stop the march of totalitarian-style gun control. "We [JPFO] are very different from the NRA. We believe that gun control should be destroyed," says Zelman in a recent taped interview. "We view gun control as a cancer, a cancer that will destroy the guardian of the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. "The National Rifle Association pooh-poohs the idea of destroying gun control. They look for ways to compromise and work within the system. In doing so, they keep gun control alive. "The Gun Owners of America differs from JPFO in that they do a wonderful job of aggressively lobbying politicians, and they use a lot of our material. So we heartily endorse the GOA." Those Rebellious Canadians Even the traditionally milquetoast Canadians have recently looked back in anger at gun control laws. On December 1, 1998, a law went into effect requiring three million gun owners to register their estimated seven million rifles and handguns. Gun owners, exempt from previous registration, refused and have even taken to the streets in protest. "Canadians should get upset," contends Zelman, "because of 'home invasions' where brazen armed criminals barge right in during daylight. The suspected victims are unarmed, so they [armed robbers] can just march right in there. I don't know how far the Canadian people are going to go with their disgust, but fortunately there is a growing number of people who are voicing their opposition." Gun control laws did nothing
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- Would you like to have your eyes re-engineered? How many eyes d'ya need? Would you like to see into the IR and UV spectra? Want wideband receivers? Nah, I just want xray vision, so I can do all the stuff I read about in the back of the comic books. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] AOL user named CRAZY70707
-Caveat Lector- On 12 Nov 99, at 7:32, earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/3/99 12:06:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mystric 4U writes: Thought I would share with everyone something that happened on Tuesday night ... and I hope that you will all pass this to other AOL members. While I was online Tuesday night, my sister-in-law sent me an IM and told me to checkout the profile of another AOL user named CRAZY70707. Not really thinking much about it, I pulled the profile up ... and in big red letters, the word "FROZEN" was at the top of this profile. At first, I thought it was some kind of a joke, but when I went to click the profile off of my screen...I couldn't do anything...I was, as the profile said, frozen. Now why would your sister-in-law do that to you? sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Damned dams, colonialism murder
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart INDIGENOUS RESISTANCE IN COLOMBIA EMBERA-KATIO PEOPLE OPPOSE MEGAPROJECT Colombian Indigenous Leader, Kimi Pernia Domico, Traditional Leader of the Embera-Katio, arrives in Ottawa. **BACKGROUND* KIMI PERNIA DOMICO, traditional leader of the Embera-Katio People arrives in Ottawa to give testimony at Parliamentary Review of the Export Development Act. In Colombia's northwest, in the ancestral territory of the Embera-Katio people, the 700 million-dollar Urra Hydroelectric Project has altered the waters of the Sinú River and threatened the livelihood and culture of indigenous communities. This dam was built with the help of an 18.2 million (US dollars) credit from the Export Development Corporation (EDC) of Canada. A Canadian firm named "Agra-Monenco" has been hired to monitor the project's environmental impact. Indigenous leaders, however, have expressed concerns that the Canadian Company has increasingly sided with the Urra Corporation. Since 1996, the Embera-Katio people have mobilized strong opposition to this project and a Constitutional Court has temporarily halted the filling of the dam. Right-wing paramilitaries, allegedly allied with local business/landowning interests, have threatened and murdered indigenous leaders in an attempt to weaken any resistance to this Megaproject. On November 16, 1999, a Parliamentary Review will be held to examine the Export Development Act, the regulatory framework within which the EDC operates. Kimi Pernia Domico will testify in front of this review to the effects the Urra project has had on their community, with the hope that the EDC will be obliged to follow an investment agenda more consistent with international human rights standards. It is hoped that Canada will also be persuaded to pressure the Colombian government into controlling the activities of the Urra corporation, investigate into the deaths and disappearances of outspoken indigenous leaders and human rights activists and act to protect the rights of the Embera-Katio. Kimi Pernia will arrive in Ottawa this Thursday, November 11 and will remain until November 16. He will be available for public speaking events, interviews with the media and meetings with interested groups to speak on the struggles of the Embera-Katio people against powerful economic interests within the context of Colombia's dramatically escalating internal conflict. These include the following: A brown-bag to be held at the Canadian Council for International Co-operation (CCIC), Suite 300, 1 Nicholas Street, Friday, November 12, 1999, 12:15 to 1:15pm. An open public discussion will be held on Monday evening. The exact time and location are to be defined shortly. If you would like more information or would like to meet with Kimi, please contact Pablo Leal at (613) 747-9930 or E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are invited to a lunch-time discussion on : = Human Rights, Colombia and Canada's Export Development Corporation = Speaker: KIMI PERNIA DOMICO Traditional Leader of the Embera-Katio People Friday, November 12, 1999 12:15-1:15 pm CCIC Boardroom, Ste 300, 1 Nicholas Street In Colombia's northwest, in the ancestral territory of the Embera-Katio people, the 700 million-dollar Urra Hydroelectric Project has altered the waters of the Sinu River and threatened the livelihood and culture of indigenous communities. This dam was built with the help of an 18.2 million (US dollars) credit from the Export Development Corporation (EDC) of Canada. Since 1996, the Embera-Katio people have mobilized strong opposition to this project and a Constitutional Court has temporarily halted the filling of the dam. Right-wing paramilitaries, allegedly allied with business/landowning interests, have threatened and murdered indigenous leaders in an attempt to weaken any resistance to this Megaproject. On November 16, 1999, a Parliamentary Review will be held to examine the Export Development Act, the regulatory framework within which the EDC operates. Kimi Pernia Domico will testify in front of this review to the effects the Urra project has had on their community, with the hope that the EDC will be obliged to follow an investment agenda more consistent with international human rights standards. It is hoped that Canada will also be persuaded to pressure the Colombian government into controlling the activities of the Urra corporation, investigate into the deaths and disappearances of outspoken indigenous leaders and human rights activists and act to protect the rights of the Embera-Katio. Join us for a public discussion on the struggles of the Embera-Katio people against powerful economic interests within the
[CTRL] National Press conference Club
-Caveat Lector- X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Pamela Richards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Pamela Richards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT BROADCAST Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:30:16 -0800 X-RCPT: para Everyone, if you want to witness history then tune into C-Span-2 on Saturday Nov. 13th at 10am EST. There is a live broadcast from the National Press conference Club in DC and it will absolutely drop your jaw! There will be lawyers, judges, Former criminal investigators from the IRS, Former Internal Revenue officers, educators, professors etc. They will be unveiling absolute conclusive PROOF that there is no law requiring ANY American to file a 1040 federal income tax statement! It is handled from a position of extensive research and certified government documents to back all claims made. A current Presidential candidate has offered a 7-figure bribe to stop this info from reaching your ears! This program will be electric and will definitely be one for the family collection. Tune in and then make up your own minds. Pass this on to all you know. "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein Love, Pamela-Leigh:Richards Private International Financialist We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Starr: 'Major Facts' in Whitewater Probe Still to Come
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/1999 7:42:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could there be major Clinton scandal bombshells yet to explode? Oh goody, I can hardly wait. Just think of the surprise! Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dismal economic system. Dismal science.
-Caveat Lector- Joshua forwarded: The Growth Consensus Unravels Jonathan Rowe, Dollars and Sense snip It was John Maynard Keynes, after all, who devised the growth-boosting mechanisms of macroeconomic policy to combat the Depression of the 1930s; it was Keynesians who embraced these strategies after the War and turned the GDP into a totem. snip And herein lies the central PROBLEM with the author's premise. It was Keynes, after all, who claimed that credit expansion "performed the miracle...of turning a stone into bread." Keynes's Economic Consequences of the Peace, a book forecasting the economic consequences of the Versailles Treaty. French Economist Etienne Mantoux demonstrated in 1944 that Keynes was wrong in his details as well as his central thesis. Keynes predicted that, as a result of the Treaty, iron and steel production in Europe would decline; it rose. He predicted that German pre-war coal output could not be sustained; it was. He predicted that Germany could not export coal; it did. He predicted that the German merchant marine would be insufficient for Germany's trade; by 1924 it was the envy of the world. He predicted that Germany's amount of savings could not recover to its pre-war level; it did. In other words, Keynes was wholly wrong about the strictly economic consequences of the Versailles Treaty. It turns out Keynes was not much better in forecasting the political consequences of the Treaty either. Keynes predicted that the Treaty would lead to "anarchy and famine." Krugman's hindsight is such that, since Hitler rose to power, Keynes was a prophet. In fact, Europe, and Germany in particular, saw neither anarchy nor famine. Mantoux reveals that Hitler's popularity in Germany rose as the treaty reparations demanded of Germany were repeatedly reduced. Regarding Keynes's theorizing about German economic conditions ... Keynes himself recognized that his own policies were more National Socialist than free market. In the Preface to the 1936 German language edition of his General Theory Keynes told his German readers that his theories were much more suited to a totalitarian state, like the one the Nazis had in place, than to a free market. The stability of the world economy after World War II, to the extent that it was stable, was maintained despite the Bretton Woods agreement, not because of it. Such stability proved to be superficial as the inflation of the late sixties and early seventies demonstrated. Richard Nixon's closing the gold window in 1971 was a direct consequence of the inflationary incentives put in place under the Bretton Woods agreement. In 1912, Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises's The Theory of Money and Credit, was published. Among other things, Mises did explain, more coherently and correctly than Keynes did, why depressions occur and what should be done about about them. Keynes cited "insufficient aggregate demand" stemming from unstable business investment as the cause of depression. He offered no explanation for why an economy should suddenly experience insufficient aggregate demand. Mises, on the other hand, explained that the business cycle is due to credit expansion stimulated by the central banking authority. Such expansion lowers the interest rate below the market rate, encouraging investment that will not be met by future demand. Such investments are bound to fail. The only way back to economic prosperity is to allow market forces to liquidate unwise investments. Further credit injections will only start the process over again. Keynes wrote a generally favorable review of Mises's book but criticized it for being unoriginal. He later admitted that he could not understand German well enough to understand original ideas. Such was the integrity of Mr. Keynes. Mises followed his first great work with two monographs and an article in 1923, 1928, and 1931, respectively, that more fully described the cause and nature of, and the remedy for, economic crises. In 1931 his student F.A. Hayek published his Prices and Production outlining and developing Mises's theory. Hayek then followed in 1941 with The Pure Theory of Capital. Hayek's contributions were rewarded with a Nobel Prize in economics in 1974. Mises's The Theory of Money and Credit had already provided a general explanation for the stages of hyper-inflation experienced by Germany in the 1920s. In 1923, Mises applied his general theory to the case of Germany in a book on monetary stability submitted to the printer more than eight months before the final breakdown of the German Mark. And Mises was able to explain Germany's monetary breakdown without referring to anything like the chimera "too much aggregate demand." The reason that Keynes is not and should not become a cultural icon is that Keynes was wrong. The problems that Japan is facing now are not due to consumers and investors suddenly "spending too little." They are the necessary outcome of massive,
[CTRL] quick question
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: quick question Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 7:48 PM Could you tell me if George w. bush (the son) is also a freemason and if so, what degree. Thank you. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Warrior Cops The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments
-Caveat Lector- Recommended as a relatively mild and non threatening work from the CATO Institute, for assisting one in informing themselves on U.S. history, Constitutional law, and the dangers that the PEOPLE are faced with in terms of increasingly fascist militarization of "policing" ... "the public" (but I don't WANT to be policed... :-() Warrior Cops The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments by Diane Cecilia Weber Diane Cecilia Weber is a Virginia writer on law enforcement and criminal justice. Executive Summary Over the past 20 years Congress has encouraged the U.S. military to supply intelligence, equipment, and training to civilian police. That encouragement has spawned a culture of paramilitarism in American law enforcement. The 1980s and 1990s have seen marked changes in the number of state and local paramilitary units, in their mission and deployment, and in their tactical armament. According to a recent academic survey, nearly 90 percent of the police departments surveyed in cities with populations over 50,000 had paramilitary units, as did 70 percent of the departments surveyed in communities with populations under 50,000. The Pentagon has been equipping those units with M-16s, armored personnel carriers, and grenade launchers. The police paramilitary units also conduct training exercises with active duty Army Rangers and Navy SEALs. State and local police departments are increasingly accepting the military as a model for their behavior and outlook. The sharing of training and technology is producing a shared mindset. The problem is that the mindset of the soldier is simply not appropriate for the civilian police officer. Police officers confront not an enemy but individuals who are protected by the Bill of Rights. Confusing the police function with the military function can lead to dangerous and unintended consequencessuch as unnecessary shootings and killings. Briefing Paper No. 50 (PDF format, 14 pp. 73 Kb http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/bp-050es.html Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dead Sea Scrolls; on the Discovery
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Porter) Tonight, Thursday, 11/11/99, at 9:00 pm PST, on the Discovery Channel is scheduled a one hour program titled: "Dead Sea Scrolls; Unraveling the Mystery." --- Larry --- Subject: [tmg_starweb] a controversial subject From: laurelhw@xxx The following is in my opinion--(and I know right up front everyone is not going to agree--that is totally understood--and by the same token acknowledged and accepted) an excellent discourse and is referenced below. My interest in sharing this is based on several issues which I will briefly explain. 1. The translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls--etc. From Karen Lyeter's excellent site http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2301/arch.html Subject: Archaeological life after death discovery Gospel of the Nazirenes: Integrating Reincarnation and Christianity Restoration of the Original Teaching?Etc.. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: URGENT MESSAGE RE: IRS
-Caveat Lector- Unverified forward... Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart @ PLANETNEWS broadcast... Roger ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) sent to PLANETNEWS: URGENT BROADCAST on Nov. 13th, 1999 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:33:41 -0800 From: "Pamela Richards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone, if you want to witness history then tune into C-Span-2 on Saturday Nov. 13th at 10am EST. There is a live broadcast from the National Press conference Club in DC and it will absolutely drop your jaw! There will be lawyers, judges, Former criminal investigators from the IRS, Former Internal Revenue officers, educators, professors etc. They will be unveiling absolute conclusive PROOF that there is no law requiring ANY American to file a 1040 federal income tax statement! It is handled from a position of extensive research and certified government documents to back all claims made. A current Presidential candidate has offered a 7-figure bribe to stop this info from reaching your ears! This program will be electric and will definitely be one for the family collection. Tune in and then make up your own minds. Pass this on to all you know. "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein Love, Pamela-Leigh:Richards Private International Financialist DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 12:48 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: John Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 7 November 1999 9:20 PM Subject: Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation Economic Reform Australia ERA EMAIL NETWORK Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 Teflon Bob and Banking Deregulation By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Few top government officials, whether elected or appointed, have managed to emerge as unscathed from a half dozen years in the Washington, D.C. spotlight as former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. And Rubin did better than escape without scratches -- he ended his term of office with his image enhanced. Wall Street and the financial press practically beatified him for his role in overseeing the global economy through difficult times and working in tandem with Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan to keep the U.S. economy working smoothly. Rubin helped precipitate the Asian financial crisis which has inflicted untold suffering on tens of millions, orchestrated the bailout of foreign bankers and investors in connection with the Mexican and Asian financial disasters, and crafted or helped implement domestic policies that ensured the overwhelming portion of benefits from economic growth would go to the rich -- but none of this managed to sully the reputation of the Secretary Rubin. Now Teflon Bob appears on the verge of demonstrating that his immunity to criticism makes Ronald Reagan look like he was coated with bubble gum. When he stepped down from his Treasury post this past summer, Rubin left unfinished a legislative effort to re-write the nation's banking laws. Misnamed "financial modernization" legislation was really a deregulatory initiative -- reminiscent of the SL deregulation that led to a corporate crime spree, the collapse of the industry and the subsequent taxpayer bailout of epic proportions. The centerpiece of the deregulatory bill, which different fragments of the finance industry have pushed for a decade and a half, is the repeal of the revered Glass-Steagall Act, which bars the common ownership of banks on the one hand, and insurance companies and securities firms on the other. Although powerful interests have long backed the legislation, it has repeatedly failed to make it through Congress because of a maze of intra-industry disputes, turf fights between different parts of the federal regulatory structure, and the concerted efforts of consumer and community development advocates. Another failure seemed possible or likely this fall, especially as Senate Banking Chair Phil Gramm, R-Texas, refused to compromise on privacy and community development issues. Another failure, however, was not acceptable to one company above all -- Citigroup. The product of the merger between Citibank and Travelers, Citigroup is operating in apparent violation of the bar on common ownership of banking, and insurance and securities, thanks to a loophole that provides for a two-year transition period. Enter Robert Rubin. According to a report in the New York Times, Rubin helped broker the final compromise language on financial deregulation. And while he was brokering a deal between Congress and the White House, he was also, according to the New York Times account, negotiating his own deal with Citigroup. A few days after the banking deal was finalized, Citigroup announced it was hiring Rubin as a de facto co-chair of the corporation. This chronology and these arrangements raise serious issues about whether federal ethics statutes and informal Clinton administration rules have been violated. Rubin told the New York Times that he was proud of his work in preserving the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA -- an important law that requires banks to make loans in minority and lower-income communities in which they do business). In fact, the final version of the bill significantly weakens CRA: there will be no ongoing sanctions against holding company banks that fail to meet CRA standards, it will lessen the number of CRA examinations, and provisions of the bill will discourage community groups from challenging banks' CRA records. And the weakening of the CRA is only one element of the finance industry's deregulatory wish list which is included in the
[CTRL] US-NATO War Crimes Against Yugoslavia
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Thursday, November 11, 1999 7:00 PMSubject: Reports from Berlin,
Rome, Paris, and AmsterdamEuropean hearings on U.S. NATO
war crimes against Yugoslavia Speaking before 650 anti-war activists
from 11 countries in Berlins Holy Cross Church Oct. 30, former U.S.
Attorney General Ramsey Clark said, There is no alternative. NATO must be
abolished. The Berlin meeting was the eighth of nine hearings and
discussions held since mid-October in the United States and Europe to condemn
U.S. and other NATO country officials and military leaders for war crimes in
carrying out an aggressive war against Yugoslavia last spring. While
these meeting were all organized locally, many were inspired by the July 31-Aug.
1 hearing in New York of the Independent
Commission of Inquiry to Investigate U.S./NATO War Crimes Against the People of
Yugoslavia, initiated by the International Action
Center. At that hearing Clark charged Bill Clinton, British Primer Minister Tony
Blair, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and other NATO country and military
leaders with 19 counts of war crimes and crimes against peace and against
humanity. A major goal of these hearings is to clarify that the
U.S.-NATO forces were responsible for starting the war and for all the hardships
and damage it created. In Europe, is has the additional task of exposing the
social-democratic forces who led most of the governments waging war against
Yugoslavia. These governments include Schroeders
Social-Democratic/Greens government in Germany, the Socialist Party-led
government of Premier Lionel Jospin in France, Priemier Massimo
DAlemas Olive government in Italy led by the Party
of the Democratic Left, and Blairs Labor Party in Britain. That
phony leftists led the aggression made it harder for anti-war
activists to mobilize the movement and clearly target the U.S.-NATO war
criminals, especially to combat the ruling parties in their countries.
The International Action Center aims to mobilize the anti-war movement
to prevent future U.S./NATO-led wars, to stop all sanctions against the people
of Yugoslavia and pay reparations for damages, and to condemn publicly those
responsible for the war. The meetings also target those in the big-business
media who issued shameless war propaganda against Serbia. There have
been hearings in Oslo, Norway and Amsterdam, Netherlands on Oct. 23 and in Novi
Sad, Yugoslavia Oct. 15-16, Berlin, German on Oct. 30 and Rome, Italy on Nov. 1.
Clark and the IAC plan to participate in a tribunal hearing set for Vienna,
Austria on Dec. 4 and at the Kassel Peace Council in Kassel, Germany on Dec. 5.
Other hearings are under discussion for London, Prague, Athens, Brussels and
other NATO capitals. Hearings are also set for Nov. 13 in Detroit and
San Francisco, on Nov. 14 in Los Angeles and Ann Arbor, Mich., and on Nov. 20 in
Washington. Included below are reports from the Berlin, Rome, Paris and
Amsterdam meetings based on releases from the local organizers or by
participants. For more information, write email: { HYPERLINK
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or call 212- 633- 6646 INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL TO BE CONVENED NEXT YEAR
BERLIN HEARING OF PEACE ACTIVISTS More than 650 participants from
peace and human rights movements convened Oct. 30 in the Church of the Holy
Cross in Berlin, Germany, to listen with great interest to prominent
representatives of the peace movements and research organizations on questions
concerning NATO's war against Yugoslavia. Speakers covered a wide range
of topics, including the causes of the war, and its short and long-term
consequences, both locally and internationally. Also the role and responsibility
of the media in the wars preparation and execution, legal questions
concerned with the initiation of military hostilities, the way the war was
carried out, the current continuation of hostilities with non-military means as
well as the subsequent effects of the war. Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Richter,
coordinator of the Association for the Protection of Civil Rights and Human
Dignity (GBM), and Laura von Wimmersperg, coordinator of the Peace Coordination
of Berlin (FriKo), co-chaired the hearing. Adding to the gatherings
significance was the participation of activists from Bulgaria, France, the
Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Russia, the United States, Switzerland, Spain and
Yugoslavia. Mr. Gennadi I. Raikov, president of the Parliamentary
Commission of Inquiry into NATO's Crimes against Yugoslavia reported as an
official delegate of the Russian Duma on the military targeting of civilian
targets. The participation of the former Attorney General Ramsey Clark
and a delegation of the International Action Center from New York, that is also
organizing a NATO War Crimes Tribunal, gave the meeting in Berlin an added
dimension reaching beyond Europe.
[CTRL] Spurious War on Drugs: Military Perspectives and Problems
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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
War on Drugs: Military Perspectives and Problems
http://www.drcnet.org/military/
by Joseph Miranda
special to DRCNet
about the author
Joseph Miranda is a former instructor at the U.S. Army JFK Special Warfare
Center and the Editor of Strategy and Tactics magazine. He can be reached at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exercise in Futility
Since at least the mid 1980s, the use of the United States armed forces in
the "war on drugs" has been a topic of much debate. The term 'war' is evoked
and ambitious objectives declared, justifying the participation on an
increasing level of armed forces in counterdrug operations both domestically
and internationally.
To many Americans, frustrated by the apparent lack of progress in the
control of the illegal drug trade, the use of the armed forces seems a
logical step. The military, drug warriors argue, can bring additional
manpower, resources and experience to the struggle against drugs. Despite
the commitment of the armed forces, however, the United States is no closer
to its goal of being "drug free" today than it was a decade ago. As will be
seen, the stated objectives, with their contingent use of the armed forces,
has had no basis in viable military strategy. The end result has been a drug
war which has been not only demonstrably a failure but has proven
counterproductive to the interests of America's national security and
liberties.
details of the war on drugs
The U.S. government's stated objectives in the war on drugs can be
summarized as follows:
Eradication of drug crops
Interdiction of drug smuggling
Investigation and prosecution of drug traffickers
Reduction of demand by increased penalization of users
In the name of these objectives, the United States has seen a gradual
insertion of its armed forces into the war on drugs since the 1980s.
As an example, the National Defense Authorization Act of 1989 gives the
Department of Defense responsibility for certain aspects of drug
enforcement, including Detection and Monitoring (DM)and C3I
("command-control-communications-intelligence", a military term for the
integration of the various procedures for commanding operations). This Act
also authorizes the use of the National Guard in drug enforcement. Title 10
US Code, chapter 18, gives guidance for the use of the armed forces in law
enforcement. The armed forces are prohibited from direct search, seizure and
arrest, unless authorized by law.
Joint Counterdrug Operations (Joint Publication 3-07.4, 9 August 1994,
published by the Department of Defense) states that the Posse Comitatus Act,
which forbids the use of the military for civilian law enforcement, does not
apply to the National Guard in state service. The issue of state service is
somewhat clouded by the fact that drug enforcement may be a federal mission,
and that federal funds are used extensively to support the National Guard.
Authorization for use of federal military forces in drug enforcement comes
from Title 32 US Code, which effectively frees the armed forces from some of
the constraints of the Posse Comitatus Act. The armed forces have been made
responsible for supporting law enforcement operations within the United
States. This support includes virtually everything short of actual search,
seizure and arrest. Missions include:
Intelligence support: provision of linguists for translations; conduct of
intelligence analysis; analysis of data.
Communications: provision of equipment and support.
Logistics: provision of transport, helicopters and other aircraft; supply,
maintenance, etc.
Cargo and mail inspection at points of entry into the United States (which
are generally not covered by Constitutional restrictions on search and
seizure).
Training of law enforcement personnel in military skills related to drug
enforcement.
Reconnaissance: including aerial observation, sensors and ground
surveillance.
This sort of change represent a radical break with past practice, where the
military was used for law enforcement only in emergency situations. We are
taking war time measures, but is it actually a war we are waging? First, a
look at the objectives.
declaration vs. reality
The stated objectives are in fact totally unrealistic. It must be emphasized
that the problem is not lack of effort. These objectives are flawed because
they are not in accordance the nature of the drug trade in particular and
war itself.
This section will concentrate on an analysis of the second objective, drug
interdiction, as it is the easiest to demonstrate its total removal from any
connection to real world military factors. Nowhere in prohibition advocates'
literature can one find a realistic analysis of the armed forces required to
successfully interdict drug trafficking. The reason such an analysis cannot
be found is quite simple: the mission itself is impossible. Drug warriors do
not wish to acknowledge that their "war" cannot be won. Let us
[CTRL] (Fwd) [FAIR-L] UPDATE: FAIR Responds to John Stossel
-Caveat Lector- Jes' 'cause he's an expert don't mean he knows the facts. AER --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:00:43 -0500 FAIR-L Fairness Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports FAIR Responds to ABC's John Stossel: Stossel's New Mistakes and Evasions November 11, 1999 On September 28, FAIR released an alert about ABC News reporter John Stossel's one-hour news special, titled "Is America # One?." By comparing several countries, including the U.S., India and Hong Kong, Stossel's September 19 broadcast sought to show that laissez-faire economic policy is "what makes a country work well for its people." FAIR found that the program was filled with so many factual inaccuracies, Limbaughesque distortions and unsubstantiated claims that it called into question whether ABC News applied any sort of journalistic standards to the broadcast. On November 6, FAIR received a reply to its critique from John Stossel "and some of his staff," in which they attempt to defend the accuracy of their broadcast against FAIR's criticisms. On each point, Stossel either changes the subject, avoids the issue, or produces new erroneous claims (to read Stossel's response, go to http://www.fair.org/activism/abc-response.html) This is FAIR's response: * Stossel's "America" erroneously claimed that Hong Kong is the only country in the world that runs a government budget surplus. FAIR pointed out 11 industrialized countries, including the U.S., that ran budget surpluses last year. In his response, Stossel does not defend the accuracy of his show's claim. Instead, Stossel makes a different claim: that Hong Kong is the only country which *usually* runs a budget surplus. "Hong Kong is unique in chronically running a surplus... while most other countries have regularly run deficits," Stossel wrote. "In 1992-1996, for example, all but two of the countries FAIR cites had budget deficits every year. It would be unfair to dismiss Hong Kong's consistent performance based on rare good years among its competitors." Whether or not Hong Kong has demonstrated "consistent performance," Stossel's original broadcast was still inaccurate. But even on his new point, Stossel is wrong: Hong Kong ran a sizeable $4.4 billion deficit in 1998, according to the International Monetary Fund. And the government forecasts a $4.7 billion deficit this year (Agence France Presse, 3/3/99). Even when he moves the goalposts, Stossel is unable to score a goal. * One important part of "America" contends that the U.S. enjoys a unique degree of economic mobility. Conservative author Dinesh D'Souza says: "If you are an ordinary guy, without connections, you're best off coming to this country. It's a very mobile society in which lots of people who start out at the bottom can find a place at least in the middle, and some will rise to the top." FAIR pointed out that a major OECD [link] study comparing earnings mobility in eight countries found that low-paid workers in the U.S. were the least likely to rise to the middle or upper level of earnings. Again, in his response, Stossel does not challenge FAIR's assertion that his broadcast was inaccurate. Instead, he pleads that "most" of the nations compared in the OECD study are "small, homogenous nations that have less distance between the highest and lowest earners." Yet Stossel devoted a significant portion of his "America" broadcast to expounding the idea that the U.S. has the greatest degree of economic mobility in the world. If he recognizes that claim is questionable, why did he make it so vehemently, and without opposing viewpoint, in his broadcast? * In "America," Stossel portrayed China as a country that has become "stagnant" because of its government's interference in free markets. FAIR pointed out that, according to the Treasury Department's Larry Summers, "China has been the fastest growing economy in history since reform began in 1980." (http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/pr2808.htm) Stossel responds: "In a Communist nation where millions have often found themselves on the brink of starvation or beyond...it doesn't take much to look like a comparative boom -- just as a very clumsy bowler may be more likely to win the 'most-improved' award." As people living in much of Latin America and Africa could tell Stossel, it's not easy for a poor country to grow quickly. It's simply inaccurate to describe a country whose growth rates average more than 8 percent per year as "stagnant." * At one point, "America" cited "the Federal Reserve's wage data." FAIR pointed out that the Federal Reserve does not collect wage data. Stossel responds that "the Federal Reserve has all sorts of economic data. The compensation statistics featured in 'Is America #One' came from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve." Stossel is mistaken. The compensation data featured in
[CTRL] Fwd: Flight 990 as Conspiracy
Conspiracy theories abound in Egypt on plane crash By Esmat Salaheddin CAIRO, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Conspiracy theories abound in Egypt over the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990 off the eastern United States two weeks ago with the loss of 217 lives. Local media reports seem generally agreed that it was a plot against Egyptian interests. But they differ on who was behind it, variously accusing U.S., Israeli or other unspecified foreign agents of involvement. The mystery deepened when data from one of the Boeing 767's two flight recorders, which was recovered off Massachusetts on Tuesday, showed an uneventful flight before an apparently controlled descent with the autopilot disengaged followed by a climb and then further descent. A final five to 10 seconds of data is still being analysed. Jim Hall, chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, said in Washington on Wednesday that recovery of the plane's cockpit voice recorder would help put the flight data in context. On Thursday, rising seas forced U.S. Navy vessels searching for the voice recorder back to port. OPPOSITION PAPER SEES ISRAELI INVOLVEMENT Abbas Tarabili, chief editor of the Egyptian opposition daily Al Wafd, said on Thursday in his front-page column: ``I am certain that Israel's fingers are not far away. ``When Israel finds an 'Egyptian gift' of 33 Egyptian military officers from all branches on one civilian plane and who just ended their training in the United States, it will not miss this opportunity,'' he added. Another paper, al-Shaab, said it ``found out'' the 33 officers had proved to be such geniuses that foreign secret services decided not to allow them to return home. The opposition Al-Arabi weighed in, saying the only assumption left was that there was a criminal act of destruction, with explosives planted in the fuel tank, one of the engines or the cockpit. ``The destructive act aimed to revenge and hit Egyptian interests,'' said the paper under a red banner reading, ``Evidence of (Israeli secret service) Mossad involvement in blowing up the Egyptian airliner.'' State-run media also joined in the chorus. The government-owned weekly al-Mosawwar asked at the end of a long article: ``Has an intelligence agency recruited an airport employee who planted explosives on board the plane, particularly with 33 military officers and eight oil experts among the passengers?'' MISSILE LAUNCHED IN ERROR? The daily al-Gomhuria's chief editor, Samir Ragab, talked of a missile launched in error. The independent Al-Usbua went as far as to publish a detailed explanation of the incident, saying in an unsourced report that the airliner flew over a no-fly military zone. ``Information pointed out that the area, where the Egyptian and American (TWA) airliners and John Kennedy (Junior) crashed, is a risky and no-fly zone... due to the presence of the largest U.S. military base. ``That base is the 'first' in developing U.S. nuclear arms and missiles,'' said the report by Mahmoud Bakri. ``The U.S. administration did not want to change flight lanes because it considered such action would raise several questions about the reasons...making foreign countries try to find answers through their espionage activities,'' he added. Bakri said some Egyptian passengers had warned security personnel at New York's John F. Kennedy airport that saboteurs could infiltrate, thanks to lax security, and reach the plane. Another scenario outlined by Bakri was that air traffic control officers guided the plane intentionally into the no-fly zone, ``particularly as Jews have strong networks of communication at U.S. airports.'' ``If this is proven, Israel would have been directly involved in the crash,'' Bakri concluded. 12:11 11-11-99 Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.
