[CTRL] Lee Data Constraints Unclear (lost data not secret at the time?) (fwd)
"Lee's attorneys have outlined a strategy of showing the downloaded bomb secrets were not that secret and that Lee had legitimate reasons for copying them..." http://www.abqjournal.com/news/1news04-10-00.htm Lee Data Constraints Unclear By Ian Hoffman Journal Northern Bureau SANTA FE Most if not all of the U.S. nuclear-weapons data former Los Alamos scientist Wen Ho Lee is accused of illegally copying had not been reviewed and formally classified as secret. Prosecution evidence shows the more than 20 weapons designs and related nuclear-blast simulations that Lee allegedly copied to portable tapes were not labeled as "restricted data" at the time. Restricted data is the U.S. Department of Energy classification category for secrets of designing and making nuclear weapons. Instead, records show Lee's tapes were full of data designated as PARD, or protect as restricted data. "This is ... an indication of potentially lesser sensitivity," said Steve Aftergood, a classification expert at the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington organization founded by former Los Alamos weapons scientists after the Manhattan Project. "It raises one more small question about the prosecution of this case," Aftergood said. A federal grand jury indicted Lee in December on 59 counts alleging he illegally downloaded and copied files of U.S. nuclear secrets to data tapes. Federal prosecutors are seeking life imprisonment for Lee. They argue he knew the files he downloaded were so sensitive as to "change the global strategic balance" and yet broke security rules so deliberately that he could only have intended to steal the data. Lee's attorneys have outlined a strategy of showing the downloaded bomb secrets were not that secret and that Lee had legitimate reasons for copying them. Neither side would comment on whether the PARD designation will play a role in the court case. But it does raise the question: Are never-classified data protected by national-security laws just as strongly as "top secret" and restricted data? "An argument can be made both ways, but the PARD designation is one step further removed from the 'crown jewels' category," said Aftergood, head of the federation's Project on Government Secrecy. A set of rules Unlike restricted data, PARD is not a data classification. It is a set of rules for handling data, devised by the defunct Atomic Energy Commission so scientists would not have to classify and lock up reams of printouts in the early decades of weapons computing. According to a Los Alamos National Laboratory definition, PARD is "not readily recognized as classified or unclassified because of the high volume of (classified computer) output and the low volume of potentially classified data." On its face, DOE policy said PARD information is to be handled as if it were classified as restricted data. However, Los Alamos assigned PARD a lower level of computer security than restricted data. And PARD printouts and tapes could be left on scientists' desks inside high-security areas, a security violation for information classified as restricted data. To convict Lee on the 39 charges carrying a potential life sentence, prosecutors must prove he "removed" or "acquired" documents "involving or incorporating Restricted Data" with the intent to harm the United States or help a foreign nation. It is not clear whether PARD is really the same as restricted data as an element of the most serious charges against him. Prosecutors will try to demonstrate at his trial that the downloads were extremely sensitive the "crown jewels" of U.S. national defense. That demonstration, aimed at suggesting Lee had a criminal intent, could be tougher if the files on Lee's tapes were not formally classified and were less protected than classified information. On one hand, the PARD files on Lee's tapes do contain weapons secrets that technically meet the legal definition of restricted data. But they had never undergone a formal sensitivity review to determine what category and level of classification applied to them. Those reviews came only last year, after the FBI found remnants of Lee's files on unclassified computers and some of the tapes in Lee's office outside the lab's security fence. Los Alamos and DOE rules require PARD to be marked by the acronym. Prosecution exhibits suggest Lee relabeled the PARD files as unclassified, so the Los Alamos network would allow transfer of the files from classified to unclassified computers. The tapes he created were not labeled as PARD and were found outside the lab's security fence, a violation of PARD handling rules. The DOE tightened the PARD rules in August and set June 30, 2002, as the deadline for the elimination of PARD. DOE officials said they wanted to get rid of the PARD designation years ago but found resistance at the weapons labs. Los Alamos and its sister
[CTRL] Beware NRA's Project Exile Bill HR4051 (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:58:47 -0400 From: Weldon Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Beware NRA's Project Exile Bill HR4051 Beware NRA's Project Exile Bill HR4051 NRA is pushing HR4051 the so called project exile bill. This is a dangerous bill. Representative Lindsey Graham April 10, 2000 1429 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 phone 202-225-5301 fax 3216 Dear Representative Graham, I did as your assistant suggested and went to www.thomas.loc.gov and put in HR4051 and pressed the go button. I have read the bill. This bill bribes states to enact laws to place violent criminal and those who break serious drug laws and who carry or posse firearms in prison under a mandatory sentence. However the following is wrong with the bill. Every state will introduce a gun bill to do that and much, much more. The bill does not say that the state cannot apply the mandatory sentence to just any violation of any law effecting firearms or anything else for that matter. We will have to fight gun bills in every state in the nation. The bill needs a provision that says that the states cannot make mandatory sentences apply to less serious firearms laws and other things as well if they are to receive grants under the law that HR4051 would create. Also the bill allows the Attorney general to expand the scope of the bill. As you know the present occupant of that office is very anti-gun. Very truly yours, Weldon H. Clark Jr. Liberty, SC --end-- P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Arkansas high court probes Hillary's link to Whitewater deal (fwd)
April 11, 2000 Arkansas high court probes Hillary's link to Whitewater deal By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES The Arkansas Supreme Court, which is considering disbarment proceedings against President Clinton, yesterday said it also is investigating whether first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in fraud in a questionable Whitewater-related land deal. The probe, confirmed by the court's Committee of Professional Conduct, has focused on accusations about Mrs. Clinton's legal representation of a failed Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Association real estate venture, which the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. called a "sham." A major area of concern is an option agreement that facilitated a $300,000 payment to Seth Ward, father-in-law of Mrs. Clinton's law partner, Webster L. Hubbell. The option, written by Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Hubbell while they were at Little Rock's Rose Law Firm, guaranteed Mr. Ward a payoff and negated his liability in the project. The Arkansas probe was sought in 1996 by the Landmark Legal Foundation, a public-interest law firm in Washington, although James A. Neal, executive director of the Committee of Professional Conduct, confirmed in a letter this week the original request had been lost. Mr. Neal said the committee had begun a new "review" and would report its findings in 30 days. "Let's hope this time they don't misplace the paperwork," said Landmark President Mark A. Levin, who threatened last month in a letter to seek an order from the Arkansas Supreme Court forcing the committee to undertake the investigation. Mr. Neal was out of the office yesterday and unavailable for comment. A secretary said no one else could speak about the matter. Mr. Clinton was investigated by the committee on charges he obstructed justice and lied under oath in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case and before the Monica Lewinsky grand jury. The committee has given him until April 21 to respond. With regard to Mrs. Clinton, the FDIC said in September 1996 that she and Mr. Hubbell drafted legal papers that Madison used to deceive bank examiners and divert $300,000 to Mr. Ward. The FDIC said the papers "facilitated the payment of substantial commissions to Mr. Ward, who acted as a straw buyer" in the Madison venture, known as Castle Grande. A straw buyer is one who owns property in name only, having never put up any money or assumed any risk. The FDIC said the Ward payment violated federal regulations, but did not accuse Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Hubbell of criminal wrongdoing. It raised serious questions, however, about their involvement in a real-estate deal that ultimately cost taxpayers $3.8 million when Castle Grande failed. The first lady, in a sworn statement to the FDIC, said she did not recall working on the option, although Rose Law Firm billing records mysteriously discovered in the White House living quarters show that the word processing code used by the firm for legal documents prepared by Mrs. Clinton is on at least four pages of the option. The billing records show Mrs. Clinton spoke with Madison officials about Castle Grande on 14 occasions, billed Madison for a "conference call with Seth Ward," and listed charges for "telephone conference with Seth Ward regarding option." The May 1986 option was designed to facilitate the transfer of a 22.5-acre parcel to Mr. Ward from the Castle Grande project, a 1,050-acre development near Little Rock. Though the option was never exercised, it disguised the reason for the $300,000 payment and created a paper trail to justify the outlay. Mr. Hubbell, who served 18 months in prison on his guilty plea to defrauding the government and the Rose firm of $400,000, has declined to comment on the option. Mrs. Clinton's attorney, David Kendall, has said the option was never exercised "so it did not facilitate the payment of a single penny of commissions to Mr. Ward." He also has noted that the FDIC did not accuse Mrs. Clinton of wrongdoing or having knowledge of any illegal intention with regard to the option. Mr. Ward has denied any wrongdoing, saying his role in the project has unfairly been described by the FDIC. --end-- P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to
[CTRL] WT: Pruden-Consistency finds a jewel in Janet Reno (fwd)
Washington Times-April 11, 2000 Consistency finds a jewel in Janet Reno By Wesley Pruden Whatever else she may be, Janet Reno is consistent. She "saves" children wholesale, as she did at Waco, and she "saves" them retail, as she is determined to do with Elian Gonzalez. It's tough on the children, particularly when she gives an order for the feds to burn their house down. That's just a risk this brave lady is willing to take. Not even the defenders of the decision to let the bureaucrats of the Justice Department and the Immigration and Naturalization Service and not the courts decide what happens to Elian are under any illusion about what will happen to the boy when he returns to Fidel Castro's satrap. Cuban law decrees that Elian must be taken from his family for long periods of time to be indoctrinated into the harsh communism of the Castro dictatorship, and taken from his family permanently if the state decides that his "communist personality" is not developing satisfactorily. The carefree little boy in tennis shoes and Disney tee shirts, whose life in Miami has been suffused with love, warmth and good times, will disappear into the maw of a brutal and remorseless state. "He is a possession of the state," Luis Fernandez said last week in a rare outburst of Cuban truth-telling. "Once the transfer takes place, no other entity can remove this." A firestorm of protest compelled Mr. Fernandez to complain that he had been misquoted by this newspaper, that he was speaking of the house where Juan Miguel Gonzalez would be staying, not of his son. He was quoted correctly. (His "explanation" makes no sense, since the house is already an undisputed possession of the state.) Miss Reno pronounced herself "satisfied" that the father spoke freely in his visit with her. Yet Greg Craig, the president's impeachment lawyer who hotly pursued the Castro government until he got the business to represent the father in America, now admits what was obvious to everybody, that the Castro government wrote the father's "spontaneous" remarks, bristling with venom for the United States. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, is easily spooked by Cuba. He remembers, with a certain residual anger, that Cuban refugees rioting at a resettlement camp at Fort Chaffee, Ark., cost him re-election as governor of Arkansas in 1980. Now he wants to "normalize" relations with Fidel Castro as a part of his legacy. Sending Elian to a grim life in Cuba is a small price to pay for his own gratification. Mr. Clinton insists that Juan Miguel Gonzalez is a "fit" father, and indeed he may be. But the president is the last man in America to talk about being a "fit" father. Fidel obviously wants Elian back in time for his big May Day parade, when he can parade him like a hunter's trophy for the crowds on the streets of Havana. That may be why Miss Reno and her acolytes are so evasive about whether Elian's father will be required to stay in the United States with the boy until court appeals are exhausted. Miss Reno says only that Mr. Gonzalez has "indicated" "indicated" being the bureaucrat's favorite weasel word that he would stay "if he could have the child turned over in a thoughtful, careful way." U.S. law gives Miss Reno the authority to require him to stay, but she continues to let Fidel Castro, through Mr. Gonzalez, decide when turning Elian over to his father is done in "a thoughtful, careful way." Miss Reno's deputy attorney general, Eric Holder, on the other hand, is itching for a little action. He has been all but contemptuous of the feelings of Elian's family in Miami, and continues to suggest that force will be used to take Elian. (Mr. Holder came along too late in Miss Reno's term to get in on the fun at Waco.) The government, he says, "will do what is necessary." You can pity the president's defenders, almost. The perpetually befuddled Patrick Leahy, the senator from the Boutique of Vermont, was the best ABC-TV could find Sunday morning, and he looked like he wanted to be in Havana himself, or Newark, or Pyongyang anywhere else. George Will put the question plainly: "Senator Leahy, you say flatly the boy belongs with his father. Now, clearly, if his father lived in Denmark, we'd all agree with that. The question is, is this a special case? Let me ask you a hypothetical question. It's 1850 and a child escapes from slavery in the South. The Fugitive Slave Law comes along and says, 'send him back.' Would that child belong with his father in the Deep South on a plantation?" Replied the senator, squirming: "But that is not the case here." (Give the senator a point or two for knowing what time it is.) Then, oblivious of the question, he spins a clumsy riff on Republican fund-raising letters. Wesley Pruden is editor in chief of The Times. --end-- P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register
[CTRL] WT: Fire Kenneth Bacon (fwd)
Washington Times-EDITORIAL April 11, 2000 Fire Kenneth Bacon Critics of President Clinton, beware. Anything in your personnel files can and will be used against you by his administration, and the Justice Department will be happy to ignore any violations of your privacy rights along the way. Last week, Justice officials announced that they would not prosecute Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon and aide Clifford Bernath for the illegal release of Linda Tripp's personnel file to a New Yorker reporter who just happened to be working on a hostile profile of her. The reporter, Jane Mayer, used the information to distort a 30-year-old incident involving Mrs. Tripp, who revealed the president's affair with Monica Lewinsky, in an attempt to undermine Mrs. Tripp's credibility. Notwithstanding the fact that releasing the documents was a clear violation of the law, Justice Department officials said there "was no direct evidence upon which to pursue any prosecution." The Three Blind Mice could see the evidence. Even Defense Secretary William Cohen said Mrs. Tripp's files were "supposed to be protected by the privacy rules." Let's review the chronology here. In early 1998, Monicagate manager and former White House staffer Harold Ickes met with Ms. Mayer and discussed her plans to write an unfriendly article about Mrs. Tripp. At about the same time, Mr. Ickes also had dinner with Mr. Bacon. Again the subject of Mrs. Tripp and her part in the Lewinsky scandal came up. (For the record, Mr. Bacon is a former journalistic colleague of Ms. Mayer.) She called Mr. Bacon specifically requesting confidential files of Mrs. Tripp to substantiate information she had about her. Mr. Bacon turned the job over to aide Bernath with instructions to "help Ms. Mayer get the information she needed as soon as possible." Questioned by a Department of Defense official responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of the records, Mr. Bernath assured him the request was for official use only. Then he turned the records over to Ms. Mayer, it apparently being an official policy in the Clinton administration to violate privacy rules whenever it is necessary to embarrass a political foe. Ms. Mayer then accused Mrs. Tripp of lying by denying that she had once been arrested in connection with a teen-age prank her friends played on her, a prank that went terribly awry when Mrs. Tripp momentarily ended up in legal trouble. In short, the accusation was false but not easy to refute in the political hothouse of that time. Mr. Bacon subsequently announced that he was really, really, really sorry about what happened; he hadn't meant to violate the Privacy Act. If only, he said, he had taken the time to consult the law before disclosing Mrs. Tripp's files he would never have done it. Right. Perhaps not coincidentally, President Clinton is also pleading ignorance of the Privacy Act in connection with his release of letters from Kathleen Willey after she accused him of groping her. He just never thought about the law, he said. Last month, U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth ruled that the president violated the Privacy Act nonetheless. Mrs. Tripp has filed suit seeking protection of her privacy too. She deserves her day in court. In the meantime, Mr. Cohen must surely understand that if Messrs. Bacon and Bernath are willing to violate the Privacy Act so casually, then they represent a continuing threat to the privacy of others. He should fire them forthwith. Otherwise he risks leaving the impression that he is comfortable with the idea of allowing lawbreakers to speak for him. --end-- P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
[CTRL] Fwd: Big Operator In Elian Case Has Links To Bush Crime Org
4.10.00 Big Operator In Elian Case Has Links To Bush Crime Org WHY was custody of Elian Gonzalez ever given over to his Miami relatives in the first place? What strings were pulled--and who, clearly and specifically for political motivations, pulled them--to get the INS to deviate markedly and fatefully from their established procedure in such cases? And just WHO might this big mover behind the scenes be connected to politically, anyway? How about--the BUSH International Crime Syndicate and associated groups and individuals! The material below, reprinted from Newmakingnews, fills in the general picture. NewsHawk® Inc. +++ + + + + + + + + From: http://www.newsmakingnews.com/ THE OPERATOR BEHIND THE ELIAN CASE -- JOSE BASULTO. THE CUBAN PROPERTY GRAB. HIS LINKS TO CLAY SHAW, FELIX RODRIGUEZ AND BUSH. 1. BASULTO SETS UP OPERATION "ELIAN." Jose Basulto is the chief organizer of the Miami Cubans who want to block Juan Gonzalez from taking his son back to Cuba. Basulto, the president of Brothers to the Rescue, arrived at the hospital where Elian was brought in from the sea wreck. For mysterious reasons, the INS did not do what it does in every other case--immediately send the child back to its homeland as soon as possible. The INS usually keeps illegal immigrant children in its own custody and has humane facilities to treat and care for children during the several days it may take to arrange to send them home. Instead, the INS released Elian into the custody of his distant Miami relatives. The man behind this unusual INS move--Jose Basulto. The INS officials behind this decision have not provided an explanation. Basulto now looks back at his visit with Elian with religious fervor. "I've seen 450 cases of these rafters, and I've never seen one like this," said Basulto. "Two days with his feet dangling in the water and no fish bites? No scratches? Nothing? There's no other explanation: This was an act of God." Soon Basulto and other members of the Little Havana community began to call Elian "El Milagro"--the miracle. Basulto circulated the story that a school of dolphins nudged Elian to safety while angels scared off sharks. Recently Basulto, whose pilot license was revoked by the FAA, after he and his fellow pilots were shot down by Cuba, stated he is preparing a more effective strike against Fidel Castro from within Cuba, "We are preparing plans to work with people inside the island." 2. BASULTO SET UP THE OPERATION TO PASS THE HELMS-BURTON ACT. On February 24, 1996, the US Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, raged at a "barbaric killing" by an "uncivilized" country, of four US citizens on a "humanitarian mission." Cuba had shot down two planes belonging to the Brothers to the Rescue. Four pilots died. A third plane, piloted by Basulto narrowly escaped. (At the time of the shoot down, Basulto's plane never entered Cuban airspace; he just urged his Brothers to do so.) The Brothers were shot down in international waters. Basulto said they "had not been warned." At that time, the Helms-Burton legislation was stalled. Clinton would not back the bill. However, Basulto stirred the wave of anti-Castro hysteria in Miami. The US forced a resolution through the UN deploring Cuba's role in the incident. On March 5, 1996, the US Senate voted 74 to 22 in favor of a final compromise version of legislation tightening the US embargo on Cuba, punishing other countries that trade with Cuba and allowing Cuban exiles in the US to sue to recover their property from Cuba. On March 6, 1996, US House of Representatives passed the package, known as the Helms-Burton bill. In reaction to these forces, Clinton announced he would sign the Helms-Burton Act. Several weeks later, evidence was obtained that the "Brothers" were not on a humanitarian mission of pulling refugees out of the ocean. Instead they intended to drop anti-government leaflets over Havana during Carnival celebrations. Twice, in January 1996, they had carried out similar missions and in the previous 18 months had illegally entered Cuban airspace 14 times. Cuba had warned the US that it would stop the Brothers' flights if nothing was done to curtail them. The US only told the Brothers, it would not "be able to interfere" and suggested they not fly below the 24th parallel. The US had advance knowledge of the Brothers' activities. A Cuban agent, Juan Pablo Roque, had infiltrated the Brothers and was an FBI informant. The FAA which requires pilots keep to a predetermined flight path or lose their license, looked the other way. (Eventually, the FAA did revoke Basulto's pilot's license.) The Brothers to the Rescue was organized by the Cuban American National Foundation in 1991. CANF was the prime sponsor of the Helms-Burton Act, which Clinton opposed until Cuba shot the planes down and four Brothers died. 3. THE HELMS BURTON PROPERTY GRAB! STILL ON ICE! BUT BARELY AS MIAMI HEATS UP DURING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR! The Helms
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -NOPOST
I don't really care and this is not the list for this discussion. You had been asked. And I ain't got time for this bs. NOPOST. Om Kris Millegan In a message dated 4/10/00 1:33:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Reader: Is a baby a part of mother in the womb? Seems this concept is double- think to me. Any women out there agree with that? Sincerely, Don Huffman A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MOUT exercise Report from Swansboro
We just LOVE practicing for martial law. We just LOVE illegal searches and seizures. We just LOVE violations of Posse Comitatus. We just LOVE practicing for future gun confiscations. We just LOVE the militarization of our local police. We just LOVE those black helicopters. We just LOVE this UN Peacekeeping training. We just LOVE urban warfare exercises. We just LOVE stomping on the Bill of Rights. We just LOVE what our globalist masters have in store for us. We just LOVE the socialist New World Order. Barf. - Call the numbers listed in the article and share your LOVE with these misguided Swansboro officials and reporters. - MONDAY, APRIL 10, 2000 http://www.jacksonvilledailynews.com/stories/2000/04/10/news04.shtml Swansboro welcomes MEU exercise Town officials see no problems with training that starts today BY ERIC STEINKOPFF DAILY NEWS STAFF SWANSBORO -- Watching Marines train is a normal sight in Eastern North Carolina, even in a quiet waterfront town like Swansboro. But an urban exercise planned in the Friendly City by the Sea starting today has raised more than a few questions, town officials said. But not from residents. "We have received some calls expressing concern, but they have been from out of state," said Town Manager Bill Price. "It's not the local people who are concerned." The questions are coming in response to an Internet report from World Net Daily. The posting claims that Marines would replace police officers in Swansboro. The Marines would conduct random checkpoint searches and patrol residential neighborhoods. Not true, Price said. "The Marines are not replacing the police department, and they are definitely not engaging in random searches of our citizens," Price said. The scheduled exercise involves the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit. According to public affairs officials, the event will involve Marines and sailors of 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, and is part of their predeployment training prior to their mid-July departure for the Mediterranean Sea. Capt. Gabrielle Chapin, a MEU spokeswoman, said the Marines plan to take care in Swansboro. "If the town were to receive any complaints, then we'll cancel that part of the training," Chapin said. "For instance, we'll only have about seven Marines at a time patrolling down Front Street." The participants will conduct mock patrols and maintain a simulated checkpoint under the watchful eye of the Swansboro police. Military commanders will get practice addressing the concerns of Mayor Paul Edgerton, Police Chief Harry Pugliese and Price in daily meetings. "The checkpoints are for Marine role players who are designated for their exercise," Price said. "Area residents and businesses will not be affected unless they want to play along." Practice patrols are planned for areas of the town south of N.C. 24 to include Church and Front streets. Just as if there was an embassy to be evacuated or humanitarian assistance to be delivered overseas, the military staff members in training will meet with actual town officials every day. "It's the communication that we're practicing," Price said. The media has been invited to view the exercise, attend morning situational meetings and even go on simulated patrols with the Marines. "I can understand the concern of people in other areas who don't have a close working relationship with their local military," Price said. Any questions from residents regarding the exercise should be addressed to the Swansboro Police Department at 326-5151 during working hours or the Onslow County Sheriff's Department at 455- 3113 after working hours. Edgerton, for one, welcomes the Marines. Swansboro, he pointed out, owes the military the favor. "The Marines really helped us after the snow in 1989, hurricane cleanups and our annual Mullet Festivals," Edgerton said. "I'm looking forward to continuing the close working relationship between Swansboro and the Marine Corps." Eric Steinkopff can be contacted by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 353-1171, Ext. 236. - "You shall have world government, whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent. -James Warburg, CFR member, Feb. 17, 1950 "When the American people will wake up, they will be communist." -Nikita Khrushchev *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!* A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The High-Tech Plantation
In a message dated 00-03-16 11:22:39 EST, DasGoat sends (via Kris): "Claiming there are now over a third of a million more high-tech jobs than US workers to fill them, Rep. David Drier, R-Calif., said the present ceiling on immigrant visas doesn't meet the needs of an increasingly digitalized economy. ``If we can't bring these people to the US, corporations will move high-tech jobs to some other country,'' said Rep. Tom Davis R-Va. I can't believe I missed this. Where are these jobs that go unfilled? This is just more corporate bullshit. The truth is that these corporations do not want to pay a living wage to the people who do the work. In the past seven years I have been a displaced worker three times. Once from a small company that moved because the owner wanted the business closer to where he lived. Next Digital Electronics Corp. moved the disk drive manufacturing business to Malaysia thinking they could make more profits with people who would work for pennies on the dollar ... they went bust in Malaysia. Now the company I currently work for "Quantum" is sending the tape drive manufacturing business to Malaysia and the tape drive repair business to Mexico ... I hope they lose their shirt. The worst part of it all is that they want us to be cheerful about losing our jobs (for the good of the company) and train these assholes how to do our job ... that bites. Many people (if not most) think that violence is not the answer. These corps are taking the very food from our mouths and the mouths of our children. They could care less whether we live or die. I'm not so sure that writing congress is a viable answer, I write them sometimes two or three times a month, and if I get anything back, it is usually a form letter. Congress accepts bribes from all these corps. I'm starting to lean toward the idea that violence is the only thing that will stop them ... what can they do if 100,000,000 people decide to "just say no" to working for peanuts at a corp. Of course they will send the business to a third world country, but then people here will start to go hungry and hunger makes people desperate, then what will they do if 30,000,000 arm themselves and decide to make things right, answer - here isn't a f___ing thing they can do about it. Feeling more than a little pissed about Corporate Control, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chinese Take Great Leap Into the Unknown
Chinese Take Great Leap Into the Unknown Asia: Erosion of Communist ideology has sent many seeking deeper meaning. For some, the answer lies in paranormal phenomena, from UFOs to Bigfoot. By HENRY CHU, Times Staff Writer BEIJING--The truth is out there. It's hiding in the Shennongjia forest, eluding capture with its loping stride and superhuman strength--marks of its origin as half man, half beast, says Yuan Zhenxin. Or it's up in the sky, which Sun Shili scours for signs of life from beyond. UFO buffs in China say their nation has become a popular destination of late for interplanetary visitors, and Sun is determined to figure out how they come here--and why. "Previously, most UFO sightings were in developed countries, like the U.S.," said Sun, an expert in foreign, if not extraterrestrial, trade. "Now China is developing . . . so this may have aroused the interest of beings from other worlds." These are heady days for the millions of Chinese like Sun and Yuan who claim an interest in the unexplained, the unexplored and the downright weird. As China sheds the shackles of its Marxist past, the old Communist emphasis on strictly scientific, rational and atheistic thought is running into robust competition from a host of unorthodox ideas and beliefs that raise eyebrows in some instances and strain credulity to the breaking point in others. A cottage industry has sprung up here around investigations into "X-Files"-type phenomena, ranging from the alleged existence of Bigfoot to a hill in northern China that reportedly causes passing cars to flip over without warning. This explosion of interest in the paranormal follows 20 years of bewildering social change, years that included the erosion of Communist ideology and sent many Chinese on a quest for some deeper meaning, or at least a little excitement and wonder, in their uncertain lives. "Delving into the unknown is part of human nature," said Zeng Congjun, deputy editor in chief of Mysteries, a national monthly magazine (circulation 250,000) full of tales of lost civilizations, alien visitations, the secrets of the Pyramids and the astonishing powers of Siamese twins. "In the past, Chinese people didn't dare air their [private] imaginings in public," Zeng said. "Now, with the improvement of living standards, people have more leisure time . . . and want to satisfy their spiritual needs." Such pursuits might once have been classified as feudal superstition or deemed incompatible with rigid Marxism. Science fiction, for example, was banned in the 1980s as a form of bourgeois "pseudoscience." In today's freewheeling China, the Communist regime seems content to leave such activities largely alone as long as they pose no direct threat to the state. In sporadic cases, the government even sponsors them. Take Sun, the Fox Mulder of China, who is convinced of the existence of life on other planets. Unlike the "X-Files" character, who spies government conspiracies to hush up the truth around every corner, Sun counts party officials and serious academics among his supporters, who see his research as both scientifically valid and technologically valuable. As head of the Chinese UFO Research Assn., Sun presides over a nationwide network of government-approved UFO clubs that boast a combined membership of 50,000. The group hosts national conferences to discuss principles of jet propulsion as well as reports of sightings of flying saucers. The Chinese air force even sent an officer to the most recent convention, in 1998. 500 Reports of UFO Sightings a Year To maintain an air of scientific respectability, the local Beijing UFO chapter requires that members have college degrees--not an easy threshold to meet considering that less than 3% of the population has received any form of higher education. "If we were less stringent, our numbers would be huge," said Sun, 63, an affable, cardigan-wearing economics professor who once served as a Spanish interpreter for Mao Tse-tung. "We figure that 50% of the total population in China are UFO devotees." Sun stays abreast of the latest in UFO happenings through foreign periodicals and China's fast-growing Internet. He speaks at international conferences and keeps in contact with aficionados around the world. Sun receives up to 500 reports of UFO sightings a year. A rash of alleged sightings came during the final months of last year, when thousands of people across China reported seeing strangely glowing objects hovering in the sky. Official media rushed to cover the news, which made national headlines and inspired a segment on China Central Television, the main state network. "So many people have seen it, and there are even pictures of it. They can't be lying," said Yang Tao, 37, a government worker and believer in extraterrestrial life. "The universe is so big," he added. "Who knows what exists in places very far away
[CTRL] News Report Issue 73 Saturday April 1 2000
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The High-Tech Plantation
People won't be able to arm themselves if they are hungry. Or if they have to stand in line for that welfare cheese. Also they will feel the Gov is too imposing an enemy so they will kill and steal from their neighbor instead. If they don't go postal first. - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The High-Tech Plantation In a message dated 00-03-16 11:22:39 EST, DasGoat sends (via Kris): "Claiming there are now over a third of a million more high-tech jobsthan US workers to fill them, Rep. David Drier, R-Calif., said the presentceiling on immigrant visas doesn't meet the needs of an increasinglydigitalized economy. ``If we can't bring these people to the US, corporations will movehigh-tech jobs to some other country,'' said Rep. Tom Davis R-Va.I can't believe I missed this.Where are these jobs that go unfilled? This is just more corporate bullshit.The truth is that these corporations do not want to pay a living wage to thepeople who do the work. In the past seven years I have been a displacedworker three times. Once from a small company that moved because the ownerwanted the business closer to where he lived. Next Digital Electronics Corp.moved the disk drive manufacturing business to Malaysia thinking they couldmake more profits with people who would work for pennies on the dollar ...they went bust in Malaysia. Now the company I currently work for "Quantum"is sending the tape drive manufacturing business to Malaysia and the tapedrive repair business to Mexico ... I hope they lose their shirt. The worstpart of it all is that they want us to be cheerful about losing our jobs (forthe good of the company) and train these assholes how to do our job ... thatbites. Many people (if not most) think that violence is not the answer.These corps are taking the very food from our mouths and the mouths of ourchildren. They could care less whether we live or die. I'm not so sure thatwriting congress is a viable answer, I write them sometimes two or threetimes a month, and if I get anything back, it is usually a form letter.Congress accepts bribes from all these corps. I'm starting to lean towardthe idea that violence is the only thing that will stop them ... what canthey do if 100,000,000 people decide to "just say no" to working for peanutsat a corp. Of course they will send the business to a third world country,but then people here will start to go hungry and hunger makes peopledesperate, then what will they do if 30,000,000 arm themselves and decide tomake things right, answer - here isn't a f___ing thing they can do about it.Feeling more than a little pissed about Corporate Control,Bob StokesA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordidmattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlA HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
[CTRL] Abortionits are SHITHEADS!!!
You're RIGHT! Pro-abortionists are total shitheads! Any wonder that there are deranged nutters out there wanting to blow their heads off. Rebellion against the laws of God always breeds revolution and war. The ancient Greek and Roman world discarded many of its newborn - left abandoned oft in desert places to be torn apart by dogs, eaten by wild beasts, or birds of prey - it remained so until the teaching of the Gospel spread throughout the world whence the carnage ceased to be a publicly respectable act. Abortionists and their noddy sycophants use any means to kick the political pro-abortion football around, and they care little about human life and others opinions and sensibilities - that's evident in their puerile rhetoric. Their "end justifies any means." They're greatin their asinine mewlingabout "freedom" and "rights" and the "constitution" and about some kind of feigned "morality" - and how decent and saintly they are in their holy-grail quest to uncover some ridiculous pubescent "Grand Conspiracy" theory. They make grand goody-two-shoes, do-gooder Pharisaic laws for the protection of a freaking "sand-flea" at the farthestcorner of the earth, whilst next door, they permit the barbarity and butchery of human flesh. Sick and deranged minds they be - the multi-generational product of manufactured and cliché ridden, sick and guilty men and women, who revel in their own culture of death and morbidity. Cultural thieves and murderers, not only ofhumanities flesh but its very soul and psyche. "But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." Proverbs 8:36 "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have LIFE, and that they might have it more abundantly." John 10:10 - Original Message - From: "Tara" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Wow! I didn't think that I'd ever agree with you on anything, but this is way out of hand. I sent in a news article, people called me names. I got mad. Kris asked ME to stop. I DID! Things like this can destroy a list, and I don't blame Kris for that. I'm sick of all of the name calling and insulting of religious beliefs. It's wrong. I didn't do anything wrong in sending that email, and I won't apologise for that. I feel like not contributing and just leaving this list. I send one thing and get days of insults and I'm the only one who gets told to stop. And I'm the only one who does. And people wonder why others only lurk. Gee... To the pro-lifers, you're not going to change the mind of someone til their heart is changed. To the "pro-choicers" (gagging on the name), you are certainly not going to change ours. So stop this crap, please. Tara-Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nessie Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty, and religion in general distract us from our common enemies. We don't even have to like each other to unite against common enemies. let's talk about them instead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] info on Bank of England
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 1 04:32:45 1996 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:57:12 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: info on Bank of England About a year ago, Jim posted information about the people behind the Bank of England and I think the information is worth reposting at this time. Subject: NERVE CENTER OF EMPIRE OF THE CITY -- WORLD SUPER STATE *O*P*E*N* *E*Y*E* *R*E*S*E*A*R*C*H* (There is no copyright on this document; however the authors wish that you do not change it's contents. Post the article to as many persons / groups you consider to be interested in it's content.) THE BANK OF ENGLAND ITS DIRECTORS AND THEIR CORPARATE AFFILITATIONS (The information contained in this document is correct to 1 / 2 / 1995) Board of directors of the Bank of England Edward A.J. George governor Rupert L Pennant-Rea The Economist Newspaper Ltd. (1) deputy governor Sir George Cadbury IBM U.K. Holdings Ltd (2) National Exhibition Centre Ltd Sir Colin Corness Chubb Security Plc (3) Nationwide Building Society (Chairman) (3) Redland Plc (chairman) Union Camp Corparation (U.S.A.) Unitech Plc S. G. Warburg Company Plc Francis Heaton Lazard Brothers Ltd (1) Sun Alliance Group Plc (4) Sir Christopher Hogg Courtalds Plc Reuters Plc SmithKline Beecham Plc (5) J.P. Morgan International Council Ford Foundation Sir Martin Jacomb Barclays Plc Delta Plc Marks Spencer Plc Prudential Corparation Plc R.T.Z. Corparation Plc (6) Telegraph Plc (7) Sir John Keswick De Beers Consolidated Mines Ltd (South Africa) (8) Hambros Plc (9) Persimmon Plc Gavin H Laird Amalgamated Engineering Electrical Union Scottish General Electric Co. Scottish Television Plc Sir David Lees Courtalds Plc G.K.N. Plc Sir Christopher Morse Zeneca Plc (10) Brain Quinn Sir David Scholey British Telecommunications Plc Chubb Security Plc (3) Ford Foundation Advisiory Group on United Nations Financing General Electric Company Plc S.G. Warburg Company Plc (Chairman) (11) Sir Roland Smith Equitable Life Assurance Hepworth Plc Sir Colin Southgate Thorn EMI Plc (chairman) (12) Powergen Plc Notes (1) The Economist Newspaper ltd has the following major shareholders Pearson Plc 50 % Rothschild family Between 0 - 50 % Pearson Plc largest shareholder is the David-Weill family of Lazard's, the merchant bank based in London, Paris and New York (with 10.25%). Pearson Plc holds 50 % of Lazard Partners L.P. (U.S.A.), the groups holding company, the remainimg 50 % being held by the David-Weill family. The David-Weills also have a large deal of influence within the Italian economy due to their 4.73% stake in insurer Generalli and 2% of Mediobanca. They are also linked to the Agnelli family via Fiat. Michel David-Weill is a Member of the Trilateral Commission. (2) Sir Evelyn De Rothschild is a director of this company, he is also chairman of N.M. Rothschild Sons Ltd. (3) A large shareholder in Chubb Security Plc is Guardian Royal Exchange Assurance Plc with 4.98% of the common shares. Guardian Royal Exchange Plc has close links to the Hambro family, Lord Hambro being Chairman of the company. Guardian Royal Exchange Plc holds 10% of the common shares of Hambros Plc. Nationwide Building Society has close links with the Hambro family Group. The vice chairman being a director of Guardian Royal Exchange Assurance Plc, of which Lord Hambro is chairman. (4) Leopold De Rothschild is a director of this company. The Rothschild's were the founders of one of group company. Leopold De Rothschild is also a director of N.M. Rothschild Sons Ltd. A major shareholder in the company being Transatlantic sercurities Plc with 3.01% of the ordinary shares. See note (3). (5) J.P. Morgan Co. Inc holds 55.54% of SmithKline Beecham Plc B shares S.G. Warburg Co. Plc holds 6.61 % of the A shares (6) R.T.Z. has close links to the Rothschild family. Lord Armstrong, a non exec. director of the company is a director of N.M. Rothschild Sons Ltd. The Rothschilds were one of the origional backers of the company. (7) The Telegraph Plc is controlled by Conrad Black, a senior member of the Trilateral Commission. Directors of the Telegraph include Sir Evelyn De Rothschild, chairman of N.M. Rothschild Sons Ltd, Rupert Hambro, a member of the Hambro family and a director of the Anglo-American Corp. of South Africa Ltd. Which is controlled by the Oppenheimer family. Also on the board of The Telegraph Plc is Henry Keswick, chairman of Jardine Matheson Holdings Ltd. Henry Keswick's Brother is Chairman of Hambro's Bank Ltd and a director of De Beer's Comsolidated Mines Ltd. De Beer's is controlled by the Oppenheimer Family. (8) De Beers Consolidated Mines is controlled by the South African Oppenheimer family. It has close
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
SkeptiNews 000411a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/10_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No abominable snowpeople were cloned during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Sperm Bank of California: http://www.thespermbankofca.org/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Chinese Take Great Leap Into Unknown. Erosion of Commie ideology has sent many seeking deeper meaning. For some, the answer lies in paranormal phen- omena, from UFOs to Bigfoot. BEIJING -- The truth is out there, hiding in the Shennongjia forest, eluding capture with its loping stride and super- human strength -- marks of its origin as half man, half beast. Or it's up in the sky, watched for signs of life from beyond. UFO buffs in China say their nation has become a popular destination of late for interplanetary visitors. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/2409/t0.html # Arkansas' own X-files number close to 100. While the Southwest United States seems to be a popular location for UFO sightings, Arkansas has had its share of encounters of the unidentifiable-flying-object kind. On the National UFO Reporting Center Web site, 86 sightings have been reported in Arkansas in recent years. http://www.ardemgaz.com/weekend/wbnwufos7.html @ REPORT IN: http://www.members.tripod.com/~arkmufon/Investigative_Tips.htm : Have you scoured the skies/oceans/continents/radar for meaning lately? Do paranormalities envelop you?Are they a good substitute for Commie/capitalist ideologies? Are you devoured by hope, fear, ETs, Yetis, roaches, robots, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO Hi-Jacks Car in Ulster: Victim Reports 6 Hours of Missing Time; IRA, UDF deny responsibility: http://www.caus.org/mu041100.htm @ SUPERPOWERS OF THE HUMAN BIOMIND - remote viewing for fun and prophets: http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Superpowers.html # 'Solar max' on radar screen - Experts warn sun storm bombards jets with heavy radiation: http://www.denverpost.com/news/news0409c.htm # Reed boat arrives in Easter Island - crew slaughtered, devoured: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=256558-b9d # ANTI-BLAST ROBOT SOLD. (Mirror) THE makers of the British Army's bomb disposal robot is selling the business to an U.S. defence giant. The remote-controlled robot has saved scores of lives disarming bombs in Northern Ireland. http://www.ic24.net:80/mgn/THE_MIRROR/NEWS/P22S2.html : Are you endangered by bombers, carjackers, ETs, solar flares, superminds, cannibals, robots, me? What protective measures have you taken? Do you work to neutralize all possible threats?Are you a threat? Have you been neutered? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hitler historian loses libel case. Historian David Irving loses his long- running libel battle to defend his controversial views on Nazi Germany. Discredited: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_709000/709128.stm # Also: History under scrutiny: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9658917 # Irving: Controversial scholar http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9658916 # Believed what Nazis told him: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9658918 # UK Historian Loses Holocaust Libel Case. Irving claims Adolf Hitler did not mastermind mass slaughter of Jews and says that the Auschwitz Nazi death camp is little more than a "Disneyland for tourists" built after the war in 1948. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters2411_647.html # Holocaust revisionist gets jail. LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) A Swiss court gave a one-year prison sentence to a Holocaust revisionist who denied the existence of Nazi gas chambers and argued the extermination of 6 million Jews was "impossible." Gaston-Armand Amaudruz was found guilty of racial discrimination: www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565596278-224 : Have you revised history lately? Have you denied the existence of present/ past/future genocides? Do you have a rosy view of human nature? Do your mas- ters tell you which histories to revise? Is all history fabricated? By whom? # Survivor's final victory. To appreciate the magnitude of her forgiveness, you have to get past the words cattle car gas chamber Angel of Death. We've heard those words so often; we've become numb to the true horror of the Holocaust. http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155016246,00.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FRENCH PLAY ON JESUS: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48921 @ Dreamkeeper - Hot Channeling: http://www.thedreamkeeper.freeservers.com/ # Ugandan Cults Connections. Leader Trained in California, May Have Been Funded By NewAge Californians: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9655101 @ CULT ART. A torn poster of Jesus Christ remains on a door to
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SkeptiNews 000411b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/09_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No credulous UFOlogists were cloned during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Behind Schedule: http://208.225.201.200/gallery/nsa/nsa-1984.gif [Unit4] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Austrian Mountaineer Describes Look at Yeti. But, like all others, he was alone when he saw creature. (DN) Few people haven't heard legends of the Yeti. But what makes this tale so intriguing is that Reinhold Messner is far from ordinary he is to mountain climbing what Michael Jordan is to basketball. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155015881,00.html # Bigfoot Believers and Sasquatch Skeptics - Bigfoot Conference/Expo 2000: http://www.cleveland.com/news/index.ssf?/news/pd/cc10foot.html # Another Roswell Witness Comes Forward - More On Ramey Message - HANGER 18, FACT OR FICTION? http://www.sightings.com/general/rosanother.htm # UFO Upswing - Flying Amoeba-Shapes, Fireballs, And Blinding Lights: NEW JERSEY FIRE BALL - PENNSYLVANIA LIGHTS/OBJECTS - FLORIDA UNEXPLAINED MARKS - ILLINOIS LIGHT AT SAUCER SITE - ALABAMA ENTITIES - TEXAS UFO/ LIGHTS - OKLAHOMA TIMEWARP - CANADA UFOs/LIGHTS/CHEMTRAIL - AUSTRALIA CRAFT - STS48 MYSTERY: http://www.sightings.com/general/filers41000.htm : Have you seen (m)any abominations lately? Were you alone, except for the abomination(s)? Were you manipulated, blinded, gassed, probed, ignored? Are you ignored regularly? Do you really hate ignorance? Are you blue with rage? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PPL aims for cloned pig organs in 7-8 yrs. LONDON (Reuters) UK biotech firm PPL Therapeutics Plc, which recently cloned 5 piglets, said it would strive to remove ethical doubts about using pig organs as it prepares for human trials in 4 years. http://foxnews.com/health/0410/h_rt_0410_1.sml # Don't Clone People! Do we want official support of human-cloning research in this country? Do we want it anywhere? Shouldn't it be left to outlaws? http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/print/editorials/A45284-2000Apr9.html # Bishops Genome-Wary: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48901 : Should human cloning be controlled by govt, business, military, churches, mad scientists, Illuminati, aliens, deities, robots, me? If cloning is out- lawed, will only outlaws be cloned? Which outlaw would you most like cloned? # SCIENTISTS FIND MASTER GENE LINKED TO CANCER, ARTHRITIS, OTHER AGE-RELATED DISEASES - immortality near? http://CNN.com/2000/HEALTH/04/10/aging.genes/ # GENETICS ISN'T MAGIC: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48910 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # NASA PLANE COULD REVOLUTIONIZE TELECOM, DISASTER RELIEF. Scientists are developing a plane that can fly higher than any aircraft has flown before and stay up in the air for months, revolutionizing a wide range of fields from telecommunications to disaster relief. Also applicable for spying, mindcontrol-ray beams: http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/04/10/helios.reut/ @ The Sonic Weapon of Vladimir Gavreau. At a very specific pitch, infrasound explodes matter. At others, infrasound incapacitates and kills. Organisms rupture in its blast. Sea creatures use this power to stun and kill prey. Nazis used it too: http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/gavreaus.htm : Would you like to have a super-efficient aerial platform? Would you use it for surveillance; broadcasting communications signals; disseminating mind- control signals, ultrasound blasts, biowarfare agents; multimedia events??? # Scientists scan auroral data. (BBC) Astronomers are analysing their data after the best aurora for a decade. Looking for controlling patterns: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_709000/709126.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # World Bank critics launch boycott. Protesters believe the bank imposes a crushing debt on poor nations, making it impossible to spend money on social programs. And if dictators steal the loans anyway, well, so what? See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565598441-52f # NPR and CNN infiltrated by US Army - PsyOps specialists worked as interns at U.S. networks: http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/2410.atc.15.ram # HOSPITAL RECOMMENDS UNSUPERVISED EXCURSIONS FOR HINCKLEY - will provide map to nearest gun shop: http://CNN.com/2000/US/04/11/hinckleyvisits.ap/ # ROBERTSON ENDORSES MORATORIUM ON DEATH PENALTY - silent about his earlier support of terrorists: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48995 # Pro-Confederate flag rally in S.C. - calls for slavery, dueling: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565584045-48e : How's your conspiracy financed? D'ya depend on
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Now that is discussion. Like I have said many times, the powers-that-be do not give a fig. The abortion issue is an issue to divide the people. God is Great, God is Good and has no In a message dated 4/11/00 5:43:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're RIGHT! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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To continued before I hit a button wrongly. This is off subject and this list is not the forum for a discussion of abortion. Let us please be CIVIL! Om K In a message dated 4/11/00 9:44:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that is discussion. Like I have said many times, the powers-that-be do not give a fig. The abortion issue is an issue to divide the people. God is Great, God is Good and has no A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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--- Forwarded message follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:19:23 -0700 Subject:[Fwd: A Bush is a Shrub] Madeleine wrote: The State of Texas, under the leadership of Governor George W. Bush is ranked: 50th in spending for teachers 49th in spending on the environment 48th in per-capita funding for public health 47th in delivery of social services 42nd in child support collections 41st in per-capita spending on public education 5th in percentage of population living in poverty 1st in air and water pollution 1st in percentage of poor working parents without insurance 1st in percentage of children without health insurance 1st in executions (avg.1 every 2 weeks for Bush's 5 years) Just think what he would do for the country if he was the President. Please, pass this on. --- End of forwarded message --- sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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I hate to "Burst Your Bubble", But The information as far as the Stats Go was Challanged by someone else on the Net. The amount spent for Teachers and other accounts listed were far more than what was indicated in this list. I suggest perhaps you go back to the sourse and ask for a correction. BTW I am an Independent and Not Alligned to either Party. But Listening to Alan Keyes in Person last week, He would be a Better Canadidate than the Current RINO's to replace the ImPOTUS in the Oval Office. If you want better Government, then Put the Right People in Place. Or Stop Whinning. "There are three boxes that a citizen should be mindful of. The Mail Box, The Ballot Box, and The Cartridge Box. We Should Use the First Two and Not Forget the Last One when the First Two Fails." President James Madison ~ Mike, U.A.I.C. - VT. ~ ~ De Oppresso Liber ~ ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy'sBirth
Maybe someday you'll describe the nature of your dislike of my views on the issues of
the day. I pray you apparent dislike will not evolve
into a hatred of me; negative emotions are unhealthy and are used to penetrate one's
Soul in an effort by the forces of darkness to
dislodge your God-given Spirit of goodness.
Most of today's problems are caused by the hatred of people who have been conditioned
by the stench of our environment.
Regards,
Bard
Nurev Ind Research wrote:
Bard wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2000/4/7/85827
Elian ('Eli'zabeth Ju'an') will have had three 'Mothers' in the space of five
months. WOW!
Talk about a candidate for being dsyfunctional.
Bard
It could be worse. He could be raised by YOU.
J2
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Why Castro Is So Desperate
To Get Elian Back
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Friday April 7, 2000; 9:58 AM EDT
Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
The Clinton administration wants Cuban raft boy Elian Gonzalez
returned to his rightful father. But Juan Miguel Gonzalez's legal
claim to that title may not be as strong as once thought.
Six-year-old Elian, it turns out, was actually born more than two
years after Gonzalez divorced the boy's late mother Elisabeth
Brotons in 1991, undermining claims that the Cuban hotel worker
has an unquestionable right to the boy's custody.
"Juan Miguel and Elisabeth met in junior high and were together,
by his estimate, a total of 15 years," reported The Miami Herald
on Friday. "They were married in 1985, then divorced in 1991, a
decision prompted, according to relatives, by Elisabeth's
miscarriages and resulting depression."
Seven of Brotons' earlier pregnancies ended in miscarriage, which
apparently caused Juan Miguel to seek an end to his marriage. But
Gonzalez claimed to United States immigration officials that he
and his ex-wife decided to continue to try for children two years
after their marriage broke up. Gonzalez has offered no explanation
for the strange decision.
Despite Elisabeth's successful pregnancy and Elian's healthy
birth, Juan Miguel declined to reconcile the split with his
ex-wife, and instead took a new wife who bore him a son last year.
Cuba's state newspaper Granma claims that the divorced couple went
to a specialized obstetrics hospital in Havana and, after
faithfully following doctor's orders, Elisabeth conceived Elian.
But the boy's paternity has never been established scientifically.
Further weakening Juan Miguel's claim on the boy; Brotons had sole
legal custody over Elian -- though neighbors in Castro's Cuba say
the boy often spent time with his biological father.
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Re: [CTRL] Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to CivilUnrest
After what she did at WACO I don't feel she's too concerned about a major civil disturbance in Little Havana. This is a heartless female so typical of today's radical femmes. They use their inherent emotionalism to achieve their goal of superiority over the reasoned male; the ongoing saga of Eve's seducement of Adam. Think about it! Regards, Bard William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/10/00 8:07:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Butcher of Waco is now poised to become the Butcher of Little Havana, warns Thompson. And all of South Florida is convulsed by Janet Reno's latest installment of "Damn due process, damn the facts, full speed ahead toward civil unrest." More bollocks from the fringe! If these thugs...these Miami Cubans follow the law and do the right thing there will be no problems...if they decide to ignore the rule of law in their new country they will be subject to arrest...and hopefully deportation! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
The female who goes to great lengths to enhance her attractiveness does so to snare the male. If her chosen prey is not a Noble person she has a dilemma: succumb to the advances of the male or ward off his desire to fornicate, or if she's married not become an adulteress; risking physical abuse. Billions are spent in the cosmetic industry to enable the female to seduce the male. A Noble male is more discerning and cares more about the character of the female, rather than her made over appearance. Regards, Bard KDS wrote: I have to agree, after all the woman can't get pregnant all by herself, there are 2 parties involved here billy boy! barley Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: SEXIST!!! On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Bill, exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business! These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya' tell? If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no? But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is anti-American at best... Peace, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
I am anti-abortion and pro-life, meaning that I stand for a Culture of Life, if it is correctly articulated. FWP. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, uaicvtmb wrote: Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals, who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of Taxpayers Money; [Illegally collected] All their damn Whinning. As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you "justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still Murder for Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE. The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with the "Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine. How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps and Next War. I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation, Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot Regimue in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed "Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have Allready Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why don't they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if they want to follow the Propaganda there so much. Mike [U.A,.I.C. - VT.] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to CivilUnrest
Bard wrote: After what she did at WACO I don't feel she's too concerned about a major civil disturbance in Little Havana. This is a heartless female so typical of today's radical femmes. They use their inherent emotionalism to achieve their goal of superiority over the reasoned male; the ongoing saga of Eve's seducement of Adam. Think about it! Hummm, not having much luck with the evil girls lately Bard? I wonder why? Oh! Perhaps you have so many chasing you and begging to be bedded that you have grown tired of them? Oh! Perhaps you are a woman, and not getting lucky with the men! Oh! Perhaps you are gay and disapprove of herto sex? In any event, I poor pity any partner that has the misfortune of falling prey to your ridiuclous ramblings. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy'sBirth
Bard wrote: Maybe someday you'll describe the nature of your dislike of my views on the issues of the day. I pray you apparent dislike will not evolve into a hatred of me; negative emotions are unhealthy and are used to penetrate one's Soul in an effort by the forces of darkness to dislodge your God-given Spirit of goodness. Most of today's problems are caused by the hatred of people who have been conditioned by the stench of our environment. Regards, Bard You're a fine one to talk about other people feeling hatred just after you slammed half the human race using your pathetic religious views. If you don't like women why just you don't say so and stop trying to justify your hatred by hiding behind some myth. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Mike, Excellent Post! You bet those baby butchers are raking it in. Bard uaicvtmb wrote: Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals, who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of Taxpayers Money; [Illegally collected] All their damn Whinning. As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you "justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still Murder for Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE. The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with the "Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine. How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps and Next War. I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation, Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot Regimue in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed "Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have Allready Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why don't they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if they want to follow the Propaganda there so much. Mike [U.A,.I.C. - VT.] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Life Liberty Happiness wrote: Ah! I love a man who thinks deep. Thank you for the link! I'll be doing some reading. -NR On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- Then please sub to Life-Gazette by sending a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are only four of us so far so we are just fooling around until we get enough for a serious discussion. Then we will talk about the "mandala" for a Culture of Life or an "Enlightened Culture" or "Culture X" FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Bard wrote: The female who goes to great lengths to enhance her attractiveness does so to snare the male. If her chosen prey is not a Noble person she has a dilemma: succumb to the advances of the male or ward off his desire to fornicate, or if she's married not become an adulteress; risking physical abuse. Billions are spent in the cosmetic industry to enable the female to seduce the male. A Noble male is more discerning and cares more about the character of the female, rather than her made over appearance. Regards, Bard Oh what is the point? Woman Evil Slut vs. Man Noble. Yes, these noble men start wars and are the vast majority of consumers of porn, and are the vast majority of rapists and murderers. But hey! That's okay - they are noble. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Abortionits are SHITHEADS!!!
It's all orchestrated by the leadership of the Socialist Agenda who use their minions to destroy our Republic; many similarites to the cause of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. This is the Major reason why we should not return to D.C. the thugs who have been responsible for the pending demise of our constitutional Republic. Woe to us all if the wrong choices are made come November 7. Bard BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm David Sutherland wrote: You're RIGHT! Pro-abortionists are total shitheads! Any wonder that there are deranged nutters out there wanting to blow their heads off. Rebellion against the laws of God always breeds revolution and war. The ancient Greek and Roman world discarded many of its newborn - left abandoned oft in desert places to be torn apart by dogs, eaten by wild beasts, or birds of prey - it remained so until the teaching of the Gospel spread throughout the world whence the carnage ceased to be a publicly respectable act. Abortionists and their noddy sycophants use any means to kick the political pro-abortion football around, and they care little about human life and others opinions and sensibilities - that's evident in their puerile rhetoric. Their "end justifies any means." They're great in their asinine mewling about "freedom" and "rights" and the "constitution" and about some kind of feigned "morality" - and how decent and saintly they are in their holy-grail quest to uncover some ridiculous pubescent "Grand Conspiracy" theory. They make grand goody-two-shoes, do-gooder Pharisaic laws for the protection of a freaking "sand-flea" at the farthest corner of the earth, whilst next door, they permit the barbarity and butchery of human flesh. Sick and deranged minds they be - the multi-generational product of manufactured and cliché ridden, sick and guilty men and women, who revel in their own culture of death and morbidity. Cultural thieves and murderers, not only of humanities flesh but its very soul and psyche. "But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." Proverbs 8:36 "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have LIFE, and that they might have it more abundantly." John 10:10 - Original Message - From: "Tara" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Wow! I didn't think that I'd ever agree with you on anything, but this is way out of hand. I sent in a news article, people called me names. I got mad. Kris asked ME to stop. I DID! Things like this can destroy a list, and I don't blame Kris for that. I'm sick of all of the name calling and insulting of religious beliefs. It's wrong. I didn't do anything wrong in sending that email, and I won't apologise for that. I feel like not contributing and just leaving this list. I send one thing and get days of insults and I'm the only one who gets told to stop. And I'm the only one who does. And people wonder why others only lurk. Gee... To the pro-lifers, you're not going to change the mind of someone til their heart is changed. To the "pro-choicers" (gagging on the name), you are certainly not going to change ours. So stop this crap, please. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nessie Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty, and religion in general distract us from our common enemies. We don't even have to like each other to unite against common enemies. let's talk about them instead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL
[CTRL] [NA] More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NA] More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 1:30 PM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 4, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire More on Phony Polls: Larry Nichols Blows Whistle on NBC (Announcement to new readers: See at the end of this message if you want to go to topica.com and read the archived copies of the Network America e-wires since Jan 10, 2000. Also, your writer will appear on Heads up America with Ken Bagwell at 880 AM WTZY, a North Carolina radio station, on Tuesday, April 10th, from 10 AM to noon EST. You will also notice that we have added to the header of this message where anyone can go on the internet to hear the 3 hour radio show we did about votefraud on Sightings last night, with Jeff Rense. This makes an audio crash course available to the whole world at all times. We thank Jeff Rense for his professional, intelligent, and informed handling of the subject matter, and for his making this radio show available to the world on his website.) On to todays e-wire Former Arkansas State Trooper Larry Nichols, -- vocal critic of the real Bill Clinton, whom he guarded and transported during Clintons Arkansas days as Governor, -- relayed to this writer a first hand story about Tim Russert, NBC, and polls during the Clinton impeachment proceedings. Through a fortuitous mix up, both Larry Nichols and I were scheduled for the same day on the Ernie Sanders show, which airs in Cleveland, Ohio. Rather than reschedule either of us, Ernie Sanders put us both on the air. After the show and off the air, Mr. Nichols kindly gave me his home phone number, and I called him that night to discuss computerized votefraud and related issues. Mr. Nichols told me that during the Clinton impeachment hearings he was in fairly regular touch with Tim Russert, the host of NBCs Meet the Press Sunday morning interview show. In fact, Russert would sometimes call Nichols at home. During the impeachment process, Tim Russert told Nichols that NBCs internal tracking polls showed that 80% of the people wanted Clinton removed from office. A few weeks later Nichols was watching Meet the Press when Russert threw up the figures we all heard and saw incessantly: that 70% of the people wanted Clinton to stay in office The next time Nichols was called by Russert, he asked him about the discrepancy, and what follows is a paraphrase of what Larry Nichols told me about that conversation: Nichols: You lying son of a gun, you told me that your tracking polls showed 80% of the people wanted Clinton out of office then you tell the public that 70% of the people want him to stay. Russert: Well, those tracking polls are for our internal use only, we cant release those to for public consumption. The polls we released were the ones we paid for outside pollsters to do. Those are the ones we release. (End of paraphrase of the Nichols-Russert conversation as related by Larry Nichols.) How were the tracking polls done? How were the polls NBC released done? What questions were asked? Who was called? How many polls were taken before they released the one that conveyed the information the Big TV networks wanted the public to hear? Or, did NBC and the others just lie, using the polls they aid for as a cover for the phony story they released? No one in the public arena knows, and no one (except us and a few others) seems to care. Yet candidates, leaders, public office holders, and factions from all across the political spectrum seemingly accept these Big TV network polls as if they are being brought down and delivered by an angel from heaven. And now were going to let these info-devils at the Big TV Networks tell us which candidates can be in the Presidential Debates based on their mysterious polls??? Are we living in an insane asylum, or what? Nichols story fits with other information on the subject. MIT professor Naom Chomsky said on C-Span a few years ago that there were two sets of polls: one to tell the Ruling Elite behind the Big TV networks what the people really think so they can figure out how to maneuver and manipulate public opinion in the direction they want it to go; and a second set of warped polls that are released to the public for the very purpose of deceiving the people on what the public as a body is really thinking. Our March 27, 2000 e-wire deals with a lengthy report on the manipulation of polls by Jack
[CTRL] Baby left to die after surviving abortion
http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/04/11/timfgnaus01001.html Baby left to die after surviving abortion! "...the nurse on duty faced a "moral dilemma". Bard A patriot without religion in my estimation is as great a paradox as an honest Man without the fear of God. Is it possible that he whom no moral obligations binds, can have any real Good Will towards Men? Can he be a patriot who, by an openly vicious conduct, is undermining the very bonds of Society? ... The Scriptures tell us "righteousness exalteth a Nation." -- Abigail Adams BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm Title: The Times: World News:Baby left to die after surviving abortion
[CTRL] [BCPolitics] Re: Chemtrail Conspiracy. (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Will Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BCPolitics] Re: Chemtrail Conspiracy. Thanks for the compliment William. Your excellent work here has drawn a lot of attention on the Internet. I'm not big on David Ingram's "conspiracy theory" guests, like Horowitz though I think he should present their messages for the public to decide. I still get my flu shots every year! But I think you have a hold on something real and scientifically verifiable by the chemical-lab tests. And it is BIG...HUGE. The question I wanted to ask you is whether you can demonstrate if those "gassing" North America are flying over cities more than non-cities. If they just want to reflect light back into space they don't need to target cities. But the microbes you find in the samples suggests a repeat of "Clouds of Secrecy" (Cole/Cranston) which means there is an anti-personnel purpose to this. That is bloody well chilling. FWP. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Will Thomas wrote: Thank you Franklin, Your comments re. journalistic ethics and the responsibility of journalists to cover news is well said. Best Regards, William Thomas - Original Message - From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry Rueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Chemtrail Conspiracy. What about calling journalists to task for a BREACH OF JOURNALISTIC ETHICS? You have a duty to the public when it comes to protecting the democracy of this country. That is what I was taught by Professor Dawson in my Canadian Government course and it is sound to-day. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Barry Rueger wrote: CAJ guidelines - Rule Number One: "1. CAJ-L is not to be used as a tip sheet or a means to lobby journalists to cover certain events or issues. Nor is it a discussion list for general public policy or political issues. Postings should be directly relevant to its main purposes (see above)." OK? B. On 8 Apr 2000, at 13:06, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: Date sent: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Chemtrail Conspiracy. Anybody on Canadian Association of Journalists List come across the "Chemtrail Conspiracy"? See http://www.islandnet.com/wilco . "Project Censored" rated it as one of its top contenders last year. Investigator William Thomas was interviewed on the David Ingram television show yesterday concerning this story. Laboratory tests seem to confirm that large scale spraying of chemicals over Canada and USA is underway. The main component of the sprays is aluminum oxide leading to Thomas' theory that this is a covert plan to reflect back sunlight and slow global warming. However, it is claimed that molds, fungi and bacilli are also in some sprays. Moreover, I had to wonder from the limited information received if the spraying is concentrated over North American cities. If so that suggests there are more reasons for this than curbing global warming. FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm --- When replying to a message, please note who the message is being directed to. If you reply to the list owner your message will not get posted to the list members. To post to the list Reply To "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To unsubscribe send a message to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with "unsubscribe caj-list" in the BODY Barry Rueger CKCU Radio Carleton Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.ckcufm.com - 517 Unicentre, 1125 Colonel By Drive Carleton University Ottawa, ON K1S 5B6 613-520-2600 x 1625 office 613-520-4060 fax -- - http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm -- - --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- Win $1000 at eGroups! Click here to find out how: http://click.egroups.com/1/2861/2/_/103697/_/955480033/ A
[CTRL] The Abortion Conspiracy.
You forgot to give your web site http://www.vcn.bc.ca/~whatsup on abortion, Brent, and your cc didn't get to CTRL so I'll resend it. As you develop the web site and add to the medical evidence that abortion is as much a health risk as another bad habit...smoking, I suggest you look into WHY this industry is kept going. Study the profiteering in tissue harvesting, medical experimentation etc. on the part of the FILTHY BUTCHERS, those who are literally TORTURING MILLIONS OF SMALL AND DEFENCELESS HUMANS TO DEATH ...for profit. Isn't capitalism grand? FWP. On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, brent rooney wrote: Dear William Shannon, Hi. I read your remarks, terming an induced abortion "a fairly benign procedure". Since this procedure is "benign" and even "therapeutic", one would expect that in the twelve (12) months after the procedure such women would have an equal or lower suicide rate that women who carried to term. If this is not the case, then the assumption of benign and "therapeutic" are much open to question. In the very well regarded British Medical Journal (7 December 1996) the results from a Finish study were published (see the Appendix to this email for the abstract): 1. In the twelve months after an induced abortion women had SIX times the risk of suicide comapared to women with term births 2. Women with term births had about 1/2 the risk of suicide comapared to the general Finish femal population. And I thought induced abortion was therapeutic. Perhaps, suicide can be redefined as being therapeutic. Also, William Shannon, abortion doctors concede that induced abortion is a blind procedure and that a sharp curette is used when they are scraping the uterus. Does that sound safe to you? Health, Brent Rooney www.nocancer.net Appendix: Finish Study of Suicide risk and induced abortion Suicides after pregnancy in Finland, 1987-1994: register linkage study Mika Gissler, Elina Hemminki, Jouko Lonnqvist; British Medical Journal, 1996;313:1431-1434 [Results from the abstract section] Results- There were 73 suicides associated with pregnancy, representing 5.4% of all suicides in women in this age group [15-49 years]. The mean annual suicide rate was 11.3 per 100 000. The suicide rate associated with birth was significantly lower (5.9) and the rates associated with miscarriage (18.1) and induced abortion (34.7) were significantly higher than in the population. The risk associated with birth was higher among teenagers and that associated with abortion was increased in all age groups. Women who had committed a suicide tended to come from lower social classes and were more likely to be unmarried than other women who had had a completed pregnancy. Conclusions- The increased risk of suicide after an induced abortion indicates either common risk factors for both or harmful affects of induced abortion on mental health. ... On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 02:00:35 EDT From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites In a message dated 4/8/00 9:12:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have three good friends who are female and two of them had abortions many years ago that affect them now. You MAY have had "friends" who terminated pregnancies...but to attribute mental or social troubles to this fairly benign procedure is assinine...and to assume that having an abortion MIGHT make a woman weak...or that only weak women terminate pregnancies..is also irresponsible and foolish. MOST women who terminate pregnancy do so after hours of thought, often painful and uncomfortable reflection...but without question their choice is correct...and for you or anyone else to second-guess them is, at best armchair quarterbacking...and that's at best... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
Nessie: Perhaps you forgot what NAZI stood for? It was German for the "National Socialist Party" i.e. Another Type of Socialism Just as bad if not worse as the U.S.S.R. under Joe Stalin. Mike U.A.I.C.-VT. * A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chemtrail Conspiracy. (fwd)
Maybe the Chemtrail Spraying is for "Population Control"? Or Weaken the general population's Imune system from desease? I remember the major "Swine Flu" outbreak some years ago. The Mistake I made was to get a flu shot. I was not sick before that. But after that I came down with the "Mother of All Flu's". Since then, I never had another "government called for shot" of any kind. I had the Flu and other colds, not as bad. When the spraying was up here in the Fall, my Neighbors kids came down with a Flu they could not shake for months. It is All Over the Northeast. ~ Mike ~ U.A.I.C.-VT. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: VOTE ALERT: Gay lesbian custody debate]
far and wide! You chance to Vote on whether you feel Homo's can do a good job raising children. Bard BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm Dear Vote.com voter, Last week, the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled that a lesbian who helped raise her partner's children has the same custodial rights as the biological mother. The decision immediately ignited debate on how parenthood in America should be defined. Should gays who help raise a partner's child have the same custodial rights as any parent? Vote.com is now holding an online referendum asking YOU that very question. All votes will be sent to the National Governors' Association and the National Conference of State Legislatures. If you have a point of view on this important issue, we encourage you to log on to http://www.vote.com and make your vote count. Sincerely, Your friends at Vote.com http://www.vote.com P.S.- Please forward this e-mail to any friends or family who might be interested in sending a message on this issue. If you would prefer not to receive this type of mailing, please click the link below to unsubscribe: http://www.vote.com/confirm/subscription.phtml?u=59584e73613252776158577a58757941665933617a7764622b4d70506649496f4345666e3539397143584963633dref=voteov=1nv=1 (NOTE: If your e-mail software does not make the above link active, please copy paste it into your web browser and press the Enter key.)
[CTRL] Workfare in NYC
From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America New York welfare offices recruit potential strikebreakers By Alan Whyte 11 April 2000 Back to screen version New York City's Human Resources Administration (HRA) circulated fliers last week to welfare beneficiaries asking them to work as doormen during a possible strike by doormen and other building workers. The notice was one of many that are routinely distributed to welfare recipients who are required to work for the city for their benefits. Debra Sproles, a spokesperson for the HRA, denied knowing how the flier might have been sent out. She said that when the Burns International Security Services had asked the administration to hire welfare recipients they had turned the company down because it is against the HRA's official policy to recruit strikebreakers. The flier advertised a weekly salary of $848 for working a 12-hour shift, seven days a week. It stressed that applicants must be able to handle crowd control, possible aggressive strikers, etc. The contract between the building landlords and the union representing doorman, handymen, concierges, porters, cleaning and maintenance workers expires April 20. A spokesman for the union representing 50,000 building workers, Local 32BJ of the Service Employees International union, said. It certainly appears that to us that this is for strikebreaking purposes. And the city should not be involved in recruiting for this kind of activity. The SEIU local representing janitors in Los Angeles walked off the job April 7, joining maintenance workers who were already on strike. A spokesperson for Burns explained that their company is in competition with many others to obtain workers to fulfill their contractual obligation with the building landlords. They said that they filed their request with the city's Business Link that was established by the Giuliani administration in 1995, which allows companies to hire welfare recipients. A spokesperson for the reality advisory board that represents the 2,000 buildings that would be affected by a strike reacted favorably to the concept of using welfare recipients as scabs, while unionized doormen have expressed sharp opposition to the city's tactics. This unofficial policy of recruiting strikebreakers is the logical culmination of an earlier agreement that the city unions established with Republican Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. This involved the establishment of the city's Work Experience Program (WEP), which compels welfare recipients to do the same work as municipal workers for their welfare checks. This has resulted in the replacement of thousands of unionized city workers with the cheap labor of those forced into the WEP program. The unions collaboration with this scheme continued in the last mayoral election when most of the city unions endorsed and assisted Giuliani's successful reelection bid. The exact circumstances surrounding the distribution of the HRA flier are not clear. But a city agency has helped advertise for strikebreakers at a time when Giuliani is making ever more provocative and right-wing statements. In addition to his well-publicized defense of police violence, he threatened transit workers with severe punishment at the time of their contract dispute and recently attacked the city's teachers in insulting terms. Giuliani, unable to run for mayor for a third term, is in a race for the US Senate against Hillary Rodham Clinton. Polls indicate that he would lose in New York City by a substantial margin. Giuliani, as part of a cynical and obvious effort to woo the most right-wing elements in the state, seems intent on cultivating his unpopularity in the city. Copyright 1998-2000 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' -- Socialism
uaicvtmb wrote: Nessie: Perhaps you forgot what NAZI stood for? It was German for the "National Socialist Party" i.e. Another Type of Socialism Just as bad if not worse as the U.S.S.R. under Joe Stalin. Mike U.A.I.C.-VT. * A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And you are very dangerous. The word " socialist " in nazi is not the same socialist as is commonly understood. Except by semiliterate right wingers. The whole gestalt of nazism was anti communism. That's why they were backed by the rich, the aristocracy, the industrialists, and the churches. All of whom feared the growing popularity of socialism/communism in Germany. The Nazis took the name National " Socialism " for this reason. To attract the unemployed who bore the brunt of the collapse of capitalism, and were looking to socialism for a solution. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Abortion Conspiracy.
Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: You forgot to give your web site http://www.vcn.bc.ca/~whatsup on abortion, Brent, and your cc didn't get to CTRL so I'll resend it. As you develop the web site and add to the medical evidence that abortion is as much a health risk as another bad habit...smoking, I suggest you look into WHY this industry is kept going. Study the profiteering in tissue harvesting, medical experimentation etc. on the part of the FILTHY BUTCHERS, those who are literally TORTURING MILLIONS OF SMALL AND DEFENCELESS HUMANS TO DEATH ...for profit. Isn't capitalism grand? FWP. I really hate to do this Poley, but I agree with you about part of your tirade anyway. All profit should be removed from the abortion delivery system. As a matter of fact, all profit should be removed from medicine. Human health, and life and death, are not sale able commodities. Joshua2 PS: Prior to 24 months you are not dealing with a human being. Get a biology book and learn how to read. On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, brent rooney wrote: Dear William Shannon, Hi. I read your remarks, terming an induced abortion "a fairly benign procedure". Since this procedure is "benign" and even "therapeutic", one would expect that in the twelve (12) months after the procedure such women would have an equal or lower suicide rate that women who carried to term. If this is not the case, then the assumption of benign and "therapeutic" are much open to question. In the very well regarded British Medical Journal (7 December 1996) the results from a Finish study were published (see the Appendix to this email for the abstract): 1. In the twelve months after an induced abortion women had SIX times the risk of suicide comapared to women with term births 2. Women with term births had about 1/2 the risk of suicide comapared to the general Finish femal population. And I thought induced abortion was therapeutic. Perhaps, suicide can be redefined as being therapeutic. Also, William Shannon, abortion doctors concede that induced abortion is a blind procedure and that a sharp curette is used when they are scraping the uterus. Does that sound safe to you? Health, Brent Rooney www.nocancer.net Appendix: Finish Study of Suicide risk and induced abortion Suicides after pregnancy in Finland, 1987-1994: register linkage study Mika Gissler, Elina Hemminki, Jouko Lonnqvist; British Medical Journal, 1996;313:1431-1434 [Results from the abstract section] Results- There were 73 suicides associated with pregnancy, representing 5.4% of all suicides in women in this age group [15-49 years]. The mean annual suicide rate was 11.3 per 100 000. The suicide rate associated with birth was significantly lower (5.9) and the rates associated with miscarriage (18.1) and induced abortion (34.7) were significantly higher than in the population. The risk associated with birth was higher among teenagers and that associated with abortion was increased in all age groups. Women who had committed a suicide tended to come from lower social classes and were more likely to be unmarried than other women who had had a completed pregnancy. Conclusions- The increased risk of suicide after an induced abortion indicates either common risk factors for both or harmful affects of induced abortion on mental health. ... On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 02:00:35 EDT From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites In a message dated 4/8/00 9:12:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have three good friends who are female and two of them had abortions many years ago that affect them now. You MAY have had "friends" who terminated pregnancies...but to attribute mental or social troubles to this fairly benign procedure is assinine...and to assume that having an abortion MIGHT make a woman weak...or that only weak women terminate pregnancies..is also irresponsible and foolish. MOST women who terminate pregnancy do so after hours of thought, often painful and uncomfortable reflection...but without question their choice is correct...and for you or anyone else to second-guess them is, at best armchair quarterbacking...and that's at best... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a
[CTRL] Kosovo: Bildt Right
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Kosovo: the First to Get it Right
By JONATHAN POWER
April 5, 2000
LONDON- What an anniversary that was! The first birthday marking Nato's bombing
of Yugoslavia brought forth a torrent of articles both pro and against. Yet not
one came close to matching for lucidity and perceptiveness, delivered in an
icily ironic style, the essay penned at the time of the war by the former
Swedish prime minister, Carl Bildt, in the cerebral British monthly, Prospect.
Bildt, who is presently the UN Secretary-General's Special Envoy for the
Balkans, is a man of political leanings, if elections are anything to go by,
too far to the right for most of his countrymen. His instinct is to support
Nato, to be close to America, to wind back the welfare state and to argue the
case for the use of force and intervention. But something happened to him on
the road to Belgrade.
"The Baby Bombers", as the editor headlined the piece, was a wake-up call for
the baby-boomers, now in the higher reaches of western political power, "who
have never learnt about war and power the hard way" and who, with their "smart
wars- high rhetoric, high altitude and high technology; smart bombs for smart
politicians", believe there is a "third way in war". Bildt wrote of meeting
Gerd Schmueckle, a retired German general who was wounded six times on the
Russian front during the Second World war, but then served in the highest
positions inside Nato. Perhaps, said the general, it is a question of
generations. While the war veterans are losing their hair and teeth, the new
generation suddenly has a different attitude towards war.
"For Schmueckle, war was associated with horror beyond imagination, leaving
deep psychological scars on individuals and nations. Bombs, he said, do not
create peace; instead they breed hatred for years, perhaps for generations."
A year on we can see the truth of this in Yugoslavia. The bombing did not
forestall ethnic cleansing, it appeared to precipitate it. And it has
bequeathed a cauldron of mutual hatred and a political potage that no amount of
Nato and UN policing and Western economic aid can clear up, even if it were
forthcoming in something like the quantities promised- another example of the
war time rhetoric that misled the public. Reading the public statements of
Bernard Kouchner, the UN man responsible for the reconstruction of Kosovo and
General Klaus Reinhardt, the local Nato commander, is to sense that they are
often close to despair.
Aficionados of Carl Bildt now have the chance to pursue his thinking, one year
after the bombing, in the new issue of Survival, the quarterly journal of the
International Institute for Strategic Studies. This is a much more lengthy
discourse on the limits of force, and looks not just at Kosovo but at Bosnia
before. It's essense is to challenge what has now achieved the status of
conventional wisdom- the idea of the supremacy of air-power.
Bildt argues that the Dayton agreement that brought an end to the fighting in
Bosnia was "far more a victory for diplomacy than a victory for force". He
certainly doesn't exclude that the Nato air operation, initiated on September
30th, 1995, "had a significant psychological impact during its first few days",
but the political momentum that led to the accord came about primarily because
of a new diplomatic approach. "The essential diplomatic innovation was the
willingness of the U.S. to accept some of the core demands of the Bosnian
Serbs; demands that the U.S. previously had refused even to contemplate. In
particular the Bosnian Serbs had consistently demanded a separate Republika
Srpska inside a weak Bosnian framework".
After Dayton there was an unforgivable lull in Western diplomatic activity.
Neither the European Union nor the U.S. were willing to launch any serious
diplomatic initiatives to head off the brewing crisis in Kosovo. Albanian
opinion inside Kosovo, once more fluid and open to diplomatic options, was
allowed to harden, leading to the birth of an armed insurrection and driving
the population into the embrace of the Kosovo Liberation Army.
The West, misreading the lesson of Bosnia, tried to head off Serbian repression
with the threat of air power. Thus when diplomacy failed- and the Rambouillet
agreement demanded much more from Slobodan Milosevic than the "peace agreement"
which ended the war- the West had little choice but to make good on its
threats.
The air operation, however, could not prevent a major humanitarian disaster.
Whether it triggered it, Bildt more cautious than I, just says "will remain a
subject of debate". But he adds scathingly, "despite all the talk about a
revolution in military affairs, Kosovo brutally demonstrated that the axe
remains the superior short-range-precision-guided weapon when it comes to one
man killing another; there is very little that increasingly long-range and high
tech weaponry can do about it."
A year on we have to
[CTRL] Is Your Drinking Water Safe?
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:09:40 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: Is Your Drinking Water Safe? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FORWARDER'S NOTE: If you live in a locale such as I used to, Bossier City, Louisiana, you have ample reason to fear something as mundane as drinking water. The municipalities have caved in to the grossly despicable federal government on almost every aspect of their service to their constituency. They have hideous organisms such as fecal chloroforms and how do they "treat" the problem - with some other hideous poison - CHLORINE. To top that off, several decades ago, some folks in high places wanted to give some other folks in high places a little help. They were paying through the nose to store and dispose of sodium fluoride, a nuclear byproduct waste. Then someone came up with the bright idea - let's get our lackey municipalities to dispose of it for us - so, they now dispose of it in your kids drinking water. Visit your local schools and see if they have bottled water dispenser available. Chances are, if they do have one, it's only in the teachers' lounge. What's this you say? The water is unfit for the teachers to drink - but OK for the kids. Really? At one time several years ago, a water system salesman tested my household dri nking water and found it had 44 parts per million of chlorine. The nominal is 5 to 7 PPM. When I visited our water treatment plant, I found that the automatic chlorine injector regulator was malfunctioning and bypassed. The injection of chlorine was done "manually" by several, including the sanitation engineer (JANITOR) Is this to whom you trust your children's' health in your town Please see a previous article attached to this timely article entitled "Feeling A Little Stupid Lately?" The question has been asked many times "How can these people do this to us?" The answer is quite simple - "Because the sheeple let them".Enough said? Respectfully Submitted, Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired) Route 8 Box 422 Gilmer, Texas 75644-8825 903-734-6970 Is Your Drinking Water Safe? Take a Six-Step Test to See If Your Water's at Risk ADA, Mich., April 11 /PRNewswire/ -- It's an unnerving fact -- our industrial society is polluting water faster than nature can clean it up. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is required by law to identify and set maximum limits for water contaminants in municipal water systems, but even with the precautions put in place and enforced by the EPA, there is no guarantee that the water coming out of your tap is safe. In fact, the National Resources Defense Council (NRDC) contends that the number of Americans exposed to water contaminated above EPA standards is growing. Water contaminants can come from a variety of sources and have a wide range of effects on those who ingest them. And, since water is susceptible to new contaminants at any time from many sources, even "municipally treated" water may not be consistently risk-free. According to a 1999 survey by the Water Quality Association (WQA), sixty percent of adults believe the quality of their drinking water affects their health and about three-quarters have some concerns regarding the quality of their household water supply. The water treatment experts at Amway suggest the following tests and resources to help you determine if your drinking water is safe. 1. Look at it. Water should look clear and have no floating particles. 2. Smell it. Water should be free of unpleasant odors. 3. Taste it. Unusual tasting water should be tested. 4. Contact your local health department to have your water tested if it looks, smells or tastes unusual or if you're concerned about your water quality. (NOTE: The lack of anything unusual in the taste, aroma or appearance of your water doesn't necessarily indicate it's free from contaminants.) 5. Request a copy of the Consumer Confidence Report from your community water supplier. The Safe Drinking Water Act of 1996 requires all community water systems to provide their customers with an annual water quality report. This little-known resource can help you diagnose what's in your water and what might require treatment to improve taste, smell or clarity. 6. Visit www.epa.gov/safewater/ for a complete list of regulated contaminants or call the EPA's Safe Drinking Water Hotline at 800-426-4791. ~Attached Article~ Reprinted from The Resister Feeling a Little Stupid Lately? THE UNITED NATIONS World Health Organization (WHO) actively promotes the use of fluoride in water purification, beverages, toothpaste, mouthwash, topical gels, dietary supplements and food. If the WHO advocates fluoride that is reason enough to avoid any products containing fluoride. But the medical journal, Neurotoxicology and Teratology Vol 17,
[CTRL] Russian mob trading arms for cocaine with Columbia rebels
http://www.msnbc.com/news/391623.asp Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Votenet Today - Personalized Edition Edition Date: 4/11/00
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! --- TODAY'S HEADLINES --- McCain voters in no rush to side with Gore or Bush Gore courts Ohio's undecided voters McCain backs Giuliani but says Clinton would be Senate 'star' Bush begins RNC takeover Conservative group seeks inquiry of first lady on law license In show of support, Clinton attends Maryland gun law bill-signing North, South Korea praised for calling unprecedented summit If bills don't pass, Clinton will settle for political point-making against GOP -- --Votenet Today Insider When I hear congressmen and senators trumpet their alleged devotion to education, I still remember the House vote on the Erlenborn amendment on September 13, 1983 -- and I still get nauseous from their hypocrisy. 1983, you may recall, was the year that the U.S. Department of Education published A Nation at Risk, an indictment of America's schools so scathing that it should have led America to rise up and demand action. One of the report's findings was that "About 13 percent of all 17-year-olds in the United States can be considered functionally illiterate. Functional illiteracy among minority youth may run as high as 40 percent." That spring the newspapers followed with a variety of stories about graduating high school seniors who couldn't read the diplomas they received. So, on September 13, when the House was considering legislation to send a hefty chunk of taxpayers' dollars to local school districts, then-congressman John Erlenborn (R-IL), ranking Republican on the Education Committee, offered a simple, one-sentence amendment: None of that money could go to any school district that didn't have "a procedure for determining functional literacy as a condition of graduation from secondary public schools." The House defeated the amendment, 128-275 -- worse than two-to-one. Democrats voted against it by a margin of 7 for, 242 against. That's really just a symptom. If you re-read A Nation at Risk today, you'll find that the problems enumerated there are just as big today. Why? Because, for all their flag-waving, few politicians are willing to shake up the system and demand the fundamental changes that are required. There are just too many interest groups -- including many parents -- wedded to the shameful status quo! ~Tiresias Congressional Hearings: http://www.votenet.com/today/hearings.html Do you have a contribution to make to a congressional hearing? Even if you can't go to Washington to testify, you may be able to get your position in the record. Call the committee or subcommittee involved (the Capitol switchboard is 202/224-3121), tell the staffer in charge of the hearing you want to submit a written statement and ask for instructions. It's simple! Votenet Today Insider provides news from the inner workings of our nation's capital, including upcoming legislation, what's happening behind the scenes, and how the actions of Congress really affect you. The first person to correctly identify the author of the Tiresias column will receive a copy of Congressional Quarterly's "Politics in America - 2000," due to be published this summer. --Votenet Today Insider -- Transcripts http://www.votenet.com/today/transcripts/04-11-00_01.html NBC TODAY SHOW: ROGER BERNSTEIN, ATTORNEY FOR THE MIAMI RELATIVES OF ELIAN GONZALEZ APRIL 11, 2000 http://www.votenet.com/today/transcripts/04-11-00_02.html CBS EARLY SHOW: GREGORY CRAIG, ATTORNEY FOR JUAN MIGUEL GONZALEZ, FATHER OF ELIAN APRIL 11, 2000 http://www.votenet.com/today/transcripts/04-11-00_03.html ABC GOOD MORNING AMERICA: KENDALL COFFEY, ATTORNEY FOR MIAMI RELATIVES OF ELIAN GONZALEZ APRIL 11, 2000 U.S. House of Representatives House Roll Call Vote: 106 Description: Coburn of Oklahoma Amendment Date: 4/6/00 Bill: H.R.1776 Action: On Agreeing to the Amendment Result: failed Yea = 72 Nay = 355 Not Voted = 7 Richard E. Neal voted No. House Roll Call Vote: 107 Description: Waters of California Amendment Date: 4/6/00 Bill: H.R.1776 Action: On Agreeing to the Amendment Result: failed Yea = 60 Nay = 367 Not Voted = 7 Richard E. Neal voted No. House Roll Call Vote: 108 Description: Traficant of Ohio Amendment Date: 4/6/00 Bill: H.R.1776 Action: On Agreeing to the Amendment Result: PASSED Yea = 225 Nay = 201 Not Voted = 8 Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 109 Description: Souder of Indiana Amendment Date: 4/6/00 Bill: H.R.1776 Action: On Agreeing to the Amendment Result: PASSED Yea = 299 Nay = 124 Not Voted = 11 Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 110 Description: American Homeownership and Economic Opportunity Act Date: 4/6/00 Bill: H.R.1776 Action: On Passage Result: PASSED Yea = 417 Nay = 8 Not Voted = 9 Richard E. Neal voted
[CTRL] AF News 12 Apr 00
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 000552. Air Force increases line colonel promotion opportunities WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- The Air Force will increase promotion opportunities for line colonels to 55 percent for the Calendar Year 00 Line Colonel Board which meets July 17. This is a 5 percent increase above the 50 percent rate that has been in place since 1992, and translates into approximately 62 more promotion quotas for the July board. In addition to the increased promotion opportunities, the "definitely promote" allocation rate is also returning to its historical rate of 25 percent, up from 20 percent where it has been since the height of the drawdown. The 5 percent increase in the DP allocation rate equates to 61 additional DPs for this board according to Maj. Gen. Susan Pamerleau, director of personnel force management. It also means that some senior raters with small pools of eligibles will now have the opportunity to award one or more DPs, according to Pamerleau. Air Force officials stress that while there are more DPs available for the July board, senior raters must ensure those DPs are only assigned to officers truly deserving of the "definitely promote" recommendation. "The importance of the quality review at Management Level Reviews cannot be overemphasized," Pamerleau said. "Definitely promote recommendations are limited in number to ensure that only the best qualified records are awarded DP ratings on the PRFs (promotion recommendation forms)," she said. "A DP recommendation sends a strong signal to the central selection board that an officer is ready for immediate promotion. If a senior rater or head of the management level does not have officers fitting this definition, the DPs should not be awarded, even though they may be available." Increasing the promotion opportunity to 55 percent also allows for an increase to the P-rate. This is the opportunity for an "in-the-promotion-zone" officer with a promotion recommendation of "promote" to be selected for promotion. "This is great news for our line officers as it confirms the continued stabilization of the force," Pamerleau said. "Over the last few years, we have seen the return of the historical promotion opportunities for majors and lieutenant colonels to pre-drawdown levels, and now we are seeing it make its way into the colonel rank." In 1997, the promotion opportunity for line majors was returned to 90 percent and in 1999 it returned to 75 percent for line lieutenant colonels. Air Force officials said force projections indicate the Air Force will be able to sustain the pre-drawdown rates for all the field grades for the next several years. 000556. Sheppard AFB prepares to host 'Top Tech IX' by Master Sgt. Jeff Szczechowski 82nd Training Wing Public Affairs SHEPPARD AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFPN) -- Top Tech IX, the Air Force's version of the "Super Bowl" for technical training instructors and military training leaders, takes place here April 17-20. Top Tech, conducted every two years by Air Education and Training Command, focuses on the readiness and skills of technical training instructors, military training instructors and military training leaders. Military and civilian personnel from Goodfellow Air Force Base, Texas; Keesler AFB, Miss.; Lackland AFB, Texas; Vandenberg AFB, Calif.; and Sheppard will compete for individual and team trophies. There are six categories of competition: officer instructor; senior enlisted instructor; junior enlisted instructor; civilian instructor; faculty development instructor; and military training leader. Instructors will present 45-minute lessons from courses they normally teach. Military training leaders and military training instructors will conduct 20-minute military briefings and perform flight drill. Each category is evaluated by a panel of three judges. "We are presenting lesson plans to each other and grading each other critically to find any errors in presentation," said Sheppard's Tech. Sgt. Dennis Albaugh, 361st Training Squadron aerospace ground equipment instructor, and 82nd Training Group team member competing in the senior enlisted instructor category. "Our concept is to identify and fix problems, make suggestions, and move forward." The 982nd TRG at Sheppard has had to take the most radical approach to training for the April 19 "show-down." "The 982nd TRG has one team member stationed at Seymour-Johnson AFB (N.C.) and another at Beale AFB (Calif.)," said Master Sgt. Donna Nix, 82nd Training Support Squadron instructional systems specialist, helping with the overall coordination of Top Tech IX. "They are taking part in practice sessions through e-mail and video tape sessions." Albaugh said competing in Top Tech will benefit him, whether he brings home a trophy or not, because it will enhance his job skills. "I feel very fortunate to have been picked. In the long run, all of this is going to make me a better
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] PJB to Speak at WTO Protests
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Dear Brigade, "Where I agree with the sea turtles and the porpoises and (consumer activist) Ralph Nader and (conservative) Howard Phillips and the union guys is, when you make a law in the United States of America, no international organization should have the right to tell us that we've got to alter or change our laws. I do believe in the full restoration of America's lost sovereignty and independence. And I do not believe in surrendering authority to a World Trade Organization," he says..." GO PAT GO!! Linda - Buchanan to speak at WTO protests April 11, 2000 By Susan Page, USA TODAY McLEAN, Va. - Reform Party presidential contender Pat Buchanan says he'll speak at rallies and encourage demonstrators who plan to protest next week's International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings in Washington. However, he's concerned that a repeat of the street violence in Seattle last year could undercut their message against globalization. "I'm afraid if they turn violent and ugly, that in effect will taint the whole movement," Buchanan said in an interview Monday. Violent protests could "discredit the idea of resistance to globalization." Buchanan will address a Teamsters rally in Washington on Wednesday to oppose congressional approval next month of a trade deal with China. Sitting in the living room of his home in suburban Washington, he jokes that he's ready for demonstrations like those at the World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle, which featured people dressed as endangered species: "I've got my sea turtle costume out in the kitchen." Actually, Buchanan says, he's more likely to be found supporting the cause in a TV studio than on the streets. "I was on the other side in the 1960s," the days when he was blasting Vietnam War protests, he says. "We prefer to be in the limousines with the rocks thrown at us rather than throwing the rocks. We'll speak out ... but I'm too old to carry a sandwich board." The conservative commentator notes that he disagrees with the protesters -- labor leaders, environmental activists, anarchists and others -- on some issues. The call for debt forgiveness for developing countries is "a euphemism for debt transfer onto the backs of the American taxpayers," he complains. "Where I agree with the sea turtles and the porpoises and (consumer activist) Ralph Nader and (conservative) Howard Phillips and the union guys is, when you make a law in the United States of America, no international organization should have the right to tell us that we've got to alter or change our laws. I do believe in the full restoration of America's lost sovereignty and independence. And I do not believe in surrendering authority to a World Trade Organization," he says. The increasingly integrated world economy and the move toward open markets threaten the livelihoods of U.S. manufacturing workers, he says. It's an issue he focused on in bids for the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. The major party candidates now take "virtually identical" positions on issues of globalization, trade and foreign policy, he says. "They're two wings of the same bird of prey." Buchanan discussed globalization, presidential politics and his efforts to participate in debates with the Republican and Democratic contenders this fall for more than an hour. He predicts that he could gain an unlikely ally in his quest to join the debates: Vice President Gore, the Democratic candidate. "I wouldn't be surprised to see Gore say, 'He belongs in the debate, too," Buchanan says, "and that would put terrible pressure on (Republican George W.) Bush." Buchanan says Gore would be acting on the assumption that Buchanan's candidacy hurts the GOP candidate more. That calculation could be a mistake, Buchanan adds. He is at 4% in a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll. He says he'll campaign hard in a series of states that Bush is likely to write off -- Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, Vermont and California among them. "Those are states that Bush isn't going to win anyhow," he says. "I think it's simplistic to say we hurt Bush." The Gore campaign had little to say about Buchanan's prediction of support on the debate issue. "I don't think we have a position on that," spokesman Doug Hattaway said. He added, "It's anybody's guess how another Buchanan candidacy would impact the race." end --- ~~~ T H E I N T E R N E T B R I G A D E Linda Muller - WebMaster Post Office Box 650266, Potomac Falls, Virginia 20165 Email: http://www.buchanan.org/form-contact.html Web: http://www.buchanan.org ~~~ Have You O F F I C I A L L Y E N L I S T E D Yet? http://www.buchanan.org/form-enlistment.html ~~~ The One and Only B R I G A D E Email List! To Subscribe
[CTRL] States' Rights
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Does Cuba Agree with Hillary that Government Owns the Children?
California Father of Seven Lost HIS Children to the State
By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources (www.originalsources.com)
April 10, 2000
Hopefully the situation with Elian will shortly be resolved, but it will leave
behind some really angry people and some very serious unresolved questions in
the minds of many people. Perhaps the most serious of those questions is what,
if any, rights do parents have in Cuba, or, for that matter, in the United
States of America? We've heard a lot recently about a segment in the Cuban
Constitution which allegedly puts the State in control of all of Cuban
children. It has been used by Cuban exiles to block Elian's return to his
father.
However, there are those who claim that each individual state in the United
States has exactly the same "rights" to make children wards of the State that
the Cuban government supposedly has. We do know that the Cuban Constitution is
not based on any notion that rights are God given. Unfortunately, there are a
whole lot of people in America today that also reject the notion that our
individual rights come from God, and we, the people, give the "rights" to
govern to the government. If God does not exist, the thinking seems to go, we
obviously do not HAVE unalienable, God-given rights of life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness, which the Supreme court has held include our rights as
parents to raise and education our children.
In fact, I received the following from the lawyer brother of one of my readers
making that point:
"He (Elian) is a possession of the Cuban government". You know, we self serving
Americans really ought to look into our own laws before we criticize others.
The truth is that those rights not relinquished to the federal government are
reserved to the individual states of the union. So study them. Basically all
children born in the united States are wards of the state in which they were
born.
Ever wonder why the state can move in so quickly when there is child abuse?
Some would say it is an infringement of the parent's rights. But the powers of
the states are the powers that existed before the formation of the union. They
are quite broad. In fact, some interpret their breadth by suggesting that, as
children are (from birth) wards of the state, in fact they are only permitted
to live with their parents because of convenience to the state, the natural
love and affection between parent and child, etc.
In other words, once born, the state basically only "permits" the parents to
rear the child because the child sort of really belongs to the state. I didn't
invent this. That's the way it really is. So, apart from your non-legal eyes,
or the altruism involved, Cuba and the USA are not so much different on this
point.
The above comment will come as something of a shock to those folks who believe
the 10th Amendment was killed off by the 14th Amendment. But, the writer has a
point. There is an obvious belief in legal circles that there is no "God-given"
right to raise and educate our children, REGARDLESS of what the Supreme Court
has ruled.
Three years ago I wrote about a father of seven children, David Wixom of
Placerville, California, who was in a pitched battle with his former father-in-
law for his children, after his ex-wife was killed in an automobile accident.
Under the law there should have been absolutely no question that David should
have been able to have his children and take them to Utah where he had a job
and a home lined up. He only had stayed in Placerville, after the no-growth
movement had killed off his profession, construction, to be near his children.
However, apparently before the funeral, during which the father-in-law refused
to allow the children to be comforted by their father, and he had filed a
document requesting custody of the children. When Dave Wixom showed up at the
father-in-law's home to take his children with him, the father-in-law stood in
the door and refused his access.
There was no charge of child abuse. The claim in the court document was that:
"Mr. Wixom is a user of people, and would be nothing more than a parasite if he
were granted custody of these children." The father-in-law also declared that
"The minor children presently have no known estate other than potential
eligibility for AFDC or social security benefits" and avoided Annette's estate
being in probate court by declaring that she owned nothing and there was no
will."
Well, of course, there WAS an estate - furniture, piano, car, etc. It should
have gone to the children. It did not. The document didn't state, and none of
the TV and newspaper reporters of the area thought to ask exactly how Wixom was
going to be a "parasite" if he were granted custody of his own seven
impoverished, motherless children.
Wixom was not a wealthy man, however, the father-in-law was. The father-in-law
also
[CTRL] Historical Korean Meeting Underscores Trouble in Pyongyang
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update 11 April 2000 Historical Korean Meeting Underscores Trouble in Pyongyang Summary The leaders of the two Koreas will meet in Pyongyang June 12-14, according to announcements by both North Korea and South Korea April 10. The meeting will be the first ever between the leaders of the divided peninsula. Coming just days before parliamentary elections in South Korea, the announcement demonstrates Pyongyang's desire to continue contact with the current government in Seoul and suggests an ongoing battle between isolationists and their opponents in the North Korean capital. Analysis South Korean President Kim Dae Jung will meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in Pyongyang June 12-14, according to an agreement released by the governments of North Korea and South Korea April 10. The announcement, coming less than a week before South Korea's parliamentary elections April 13, has caused some South Korean opposition members to question the timing as a mere political tactic. North Korean negotiators, however, apparently supplied the impetus behind the sudden announcement. While Pyongyang's decision to hold top-level talks with Seoul may seem like a fundamental shift in inter-Korean relations, the timing and haste in which the decision was made suggest a certain dependence between government factions in North Korea and Kim Dae Jung's party in the South. The announced visit of Kim Dae Jung to Pyongyang came after just three weeks of secret negotiations between South Korean Culture and Tourism Minister Park Jie Won and North Korean Asian-Pacific Peace Committee Vice Chairman Song Ho Gyong in China. During the final days of meetings, South Korea refused to concede to North Korea's preconditions to the visit and suggested resuming dialogue after the April 13 elections, according to Seoul government sources cited in the Korea Herald. North Korea promptly dropped the preconditions. The decision by Pyongyang to drop its demands allows the meeting to proceed months before South Korean officials had expected. North Korea's motives in accelerating the timetable for talks include a desire to influence South Korea's parliamentary elections. Both Park Jie Won and Song Ho Gyong have been key players in establishing economic links between the Koreas, particularly the Mount Kumkang tours sponsored by Hyundai. The secret negotiations, therefore, were carried out between Korean officials with a mutual interest in seeing economic ties continue to flourish. The secret meetings spawned a resumption of top-level inter-Korean contacts - originally slated for 1994. At that time, then South Korean President Kim Young Sam was slated to travel to North Korea to meet with North Korean President Kim Il Sung. Several officials in North Korea's government, including Kim Il Sung's son and heir apparent Kim Jong Il, opposed the meeting, which was brokered by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, acting in a private capacity. However, despite reservations within the government, Kim Il Sung personally oversaw many of the preparations for the meeting. The visit never took place, however. Kim Il Sung collapsed while looking into preparations at his summer villa in the Myohyang Mountains, where he planned to take Kim Young Sam. Due to the remoteness of the villa, doctors were unable to respond swiftly. Kim Il Sung died just 17 days before the talks were to commence. The reported cause of death was a heart attack, triggered by "heavy mental strains." Inter-Korean relations were set back as Pyongyang tackled the dynastic succession of its self-styled communist regime. Kim Jong Il's eventual rise to power following the death of his father was a slow process, fraught with rumors of coup attempts, internal executions and purges, and political opposition. With the election of Kim Dae Jung in the South and the launch of his Sunshine Policy for national reunification, inter-Korean relations began to shift heavily from security and political issues into the realm of economics. This increased focus on economics has led to a certain amount of North Korean dependence on South Korean business interests and projects. The dependence has also affected North Korea's foreign policy, particularly that dealing with Seoul. However, Pyongyang does not appear to be unified in its embrace of Kim Dae Jung and the Sunshine Policy. The divisiveness, exposed by Kim Young Sam's planned visit and deepened during Kim Jong Il's assumption of leadership, has yet to fully heal. The splits within the North Korean government can be seen in part in its diplomatic policies. In 1998, as Kim Jong Il firmly took the reins of power, Pyongyang began to reduce its diplomatic overseas staff by 30 percent, until "food and economic problems" in North Korea were solved. At the same time, there were several unconfirmed reports in foreign media that North Korea was
[CTRL] Americas Broken Contract
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Americaâs Broken Contract By Chuck Baldwin April 11, 2000 Many theologians believe one reason for Americaâs unprecedented blessing is due to the original contract that our forefathers made with God. That original contract was dated November 11, 1620 and was made by the Pilgrim passengers of the Mayflower. It is known simply as "The Mayflower Compact." It is commonly regarded as the basis for written laws in America. It states in part (in original spelling and punctuation): "Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia; do by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the Presence of God and of one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid; And by Virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions, and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the General good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience." The laws of these United States never officially repealed that compact, until 1962 â63. When the Supreme Court decided to remove prayer and the Bible from the classrooms of America, the Mayflower Compact was then and there expunged. Since then, of course, copious laws have been applied to our land that strip America of its original agreement. Is it any wonder that, while boasting the worldâs greatest economy, our country languishes in a cesspool of degradation and depravity? Should we be surprised that many military experts are warning that political correctness and social engineering are quickly creating an anemic army that will be incapable of defending America in as little as ten years? It seems America is blind, both to our heritage, and to our future! Politicians from both parties have traded the permanent for the temporary. Churches have become little more than glorified social clubs. Many in the business community have replaced honest profits with unadulterated greed. Husbands and wives donât even honor the contract they made with each other much less the ones they made to pay their bills and keep their commitments. The condition of our land should drive us to our knees. It hasnât. As a result, Americaâs destiny is determined. No political party or any amount of money can fix it. Since the problem is moral and spiritual at its center, it is truly revival or ruin! **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bequests
And so, Bill Jeff, in his search for a legacy may have found a Washington Post
writer who has THE list of deeds ...
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By Robert Kagan
Monday, April 10, 2000; Page A21
Call me crazy, but I think it actually would serve the national interest if
George W. Bush spent more time talking about foreign policy in this campaign.
Not to slight the importance of his statements on the environment and the
census. But perhaps Bush and his advisers can find time to pose a simple,
Reaganesque question: Is the world a safer place than it was eight years ago?
A hundred bucks says even James Carville can't answer that question in the
affirmative--at least not with a straight face. A brief tour d'horizon shows
why.
Iraq. As the administration enters its final months, Saddam Hussein is alive
and well in Baghdad, pursuing his quest for weapons of mass destruction, free
from outside inspection and getting wealthier by the day through oil sales
while the sanctions regime against him crumbles. The next president may see his
term dominated by the specter of Saddam Redux.
The Balkans. You can debate whether things are getting better in Bosnia, or
whether Kosovo is on its way to recovery or to disaster. And Clinton deserves
credit for intervening in both crises. But Slobodan Milosevic is still in power
in Belgrade, still stirring the pot in Kosovo and is on the verge of starting
his fifth Balkan war in Montenegro. Milosevic was George Bush Sr.'s gift to
Bill Clinton; he will be Clinton's gift to Al Gore or George Jr.
China-Taiwan. Even Sinologists sympathetic to the Clinton administration's
policies think the odds of military conflict across the Taiwan Strait have
increased dramatically. Meanwhile, the administration's own State Department
acknowledges the steady deterioration of Beijing's human rights record. Good
luck to Al Gore if he tries to call China policy a success.
Weapons proliferation. Two years after India and Pakistan exploded nuclear
devices, their struggle over Kashmir remains the likeliest spark for the 21st
century's first nuclear confrontation. If this is the signal failure of the
Clinton administration's nonproliferation policies, North Korea's and Iran's
weapons programs come in a close second and third. Even the administration's
intelligence experts admit that the threat to the United States has grown much
faster than Clinton and Gore anticipated. And where is the missile defense
system to protect Americans in this frightening new era?
Haiti and Colombia. After nobly intervening in Haiti to restore a
democratically elected president in 1994, the administration has frittered away
the past 5 1/2 years. Political assassinations in Haiti are rife. Prospects for
stability are bleak. Meanwhile, the war in Colombia rages, and even a billion-
dollar aid program may not prevent a victory by narco-guerrillas. When the next
president has to send troops to fight in Colombia or to restore order in Haiti,
again, he'll know whom to thank.
Russia. Even optimists don't deny that the election of Vladimir Putin could be
an ominous development. The devastation in Chechnya has revealed the new
regime's penchant for brutality.
Add to all this the decline of the armed forces--even the Joint Chiefs complain
that the defense budget is tens of billions of dollars short--and you come up
with a story of failure and neglect. Sure, there have been some successes: NATO
expansion and, maybe, a peace deal in Northern Ireland. Before November,
Clinton could pull a rabbit out of the hat in the Middle East. But Jimmy Carter
had successes, too. They did not save him from being painted as an ineffectual
world leader in the 1980 campaign.
Bush may be gun-shy about playing up foreign policy after tussling with John
McCain in the primaries. But Gore is no McCain. He is nimble on health care and
education, but he is clumsy on foreign policy. Bush may not be a foreign policy
maven, but he's got some facts on his side, as well as some heavy hitters.
Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, George Shultz and Richard Lugar, instead of
whispering in W.'s ear, could get out in public and help build the case. John
McCain could pitch in, too.
The offensive can't start soon enough. The administration has been adept at
keeping the American people in a complacent torpor: Raising the national
consciousness about the sorry state of the world will take time. And if Bush
simply waits for the next crisis before speaking out, he will look like a drive-
by shooter. Bush also would do himself, his party and the country a favor if he
stopped talking about pulling U.S. troops out of the Balkans and elsewhere.
Aside from such talk being music to Milosevic's ears, Republicans in Congress
have been singing that neo-isolationist tune for years, and the only result has
been to make Clinton and Gore look like Harry Truman and Dean Acheson.
Some may say it's inappropriate to "politicize" foreign
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] HOT! PJB vs Bush/Gore - Globalization Flyer
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Dear Brigade, Today I completed a massive amount of administrative tasks and also finished the anti-Globalization flyer for our protest rally on Wed 4/12 and Sun 4/16 in Washington DC. The flyer is on our site and ready for your download, printing, and wide distribution. It can be used throughout the rest of the campaign season to highlight the differences between Pat and the Bush-Gore team. I also emphasize why the Establishment is panic-stricken over Pat Buchanan and point out how the Masters of the Universe plan to prevent his presidency. Go to our site at: http://www.buchanan.org The flyer is a .pdf file and is located at the top of the front page. Also read the details about the Brigades joining the the anti-NWO protests this week in DC. Remember PJB will be there on Wednesday 4/12 -- lets give Pat our support, he is going to need all Brigades to be on DUTY in DC!! I still need people to give me a hand in DC on both days to carry the Banner and pass out flyers -- email me back if you can help! For the Cause - Linda PS -- See great article below on China. From: Rob Teel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Endorsing Pat Linda, Here is a fabulous article posted today on China. Dr. Chuck Baldwin sounds like he is endorsing Pat Buchanan!! Rob Teel -- Oklahoma Brigade - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_baldwin/ 2410_xcbal_trading_wi.shtml Trading with the enemy - by Dr. Chuck Baldwin The full court press has already begun. President Clinton is intensely lobbying Congress for passage of permanent Most Favored Nation trade status and entrance into the World Trade Organization for Communist China. The Republican leadership in Congress is also pressing for its passage. House Speaker Dennis Hastert has promised a floor vote during the week of May 22. He predicts "ultimate victory." Early last week, President Clinton along with 42 governors, including G.W. Bush, and over 200 executives of high-tech companies from Silicon Valley conducted a major news conference aimed at convincing both recalcitrant congressmen and the American public that permanent MFN must be adopted. Not everyone is buying it, however. China's most outspoken dissident, Harry Wu, told a congressional panel last December that granting the Communist regime permanent MFN would give it "a green light to abuse their citizens." "Free traders" demonstrate a profound ignorance regarding the nature of Communist-controlled governments. Communist Chinese leaders have repeatedly threatened to incinerate American cities with nuclear missiles. Our own Pentagon recently released a study which reveals China is making plans for war with the United States at this very moment. Contrary to the arguments of free traders, increased commercial activity with Communist China does not reduce its cruel and despotic style of governance. Just the opposite is true. After years of "free trade" with China, oppression and persecution against people of faith and political dissidents is more draconian than ever! Can you imagine presidential candidates and congressional leaders calling for "free trade" with Adolf Hitler? Yet, according to The Black Book of Communism, the Communist Chinese have slaughtered at least three times more people than Hitler's Third Reich. The same book puts the total number of people killed by various communist regimes worldwide at over 100 million! Apply the "free trade" arguments to the infamous Chicago gangster, Al Capone. Like the Butchers of Beijing, Capone came to power (and kept power) by brute force. He controlled politicians, judges, businessmen and policemen with an iron fist. Would anyone suggest that the way to convert Capone would be to enter into "free trade" agreements with him? Nonsense! Yet, the only difference between the Communist Chinese and gangsters like Al Capone is scale. Capone operated on a local scale; the Communist Chinese operate on a national and international scale. Both are equally corrupt and murderous. Additionally, there is nothing free about our "free trade" agreements with China. According to New American magazine, "The U.S. government's Export-Import Bank subsidized trade with China to the tune of $5.9 billion in 1998. The U.S. taxpayer-subsidized Asian Development Bank and World Bank awarded $1.5 billion and $2.4 billion, respectively, in new loans to China that same year. Without these subsidies, it is unlikely that wealthy transnational elitists would invest in China's risky market." Another problem is an ever-increasing trade deficit that results from these NAFTA, GATT, and free-trade deals. If this year's first quarter figures are annualized, our trade deficit will exceed $400 billion. According to World magazine, the United States lost more than 341,000 manufacturing jobs in 1999 alone, as a direct result
[CTRL] Disbarment sought for Hillary
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Disbarment sought for Hillary Four-year-old Whitewater complaint finally gets attention -- -- By Julie Foster © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com A complaint asking that first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton be disbarred for violating the Arkansas code of conduct, which requires lawyers to act with honesty and integrity, will be reviewed by the Arkansas Supreme Court's committee on professional conduct -- the same committee looking into disbarment of President Clinton. The complaint was originally filed by Landmark Legal Foundation in 1996 for Mrs. Clinton's actions in the Whitewater scandal, but the group never received a response from the court committee. James Neal, the committee's executive director, said in a letter to the foundation last week that he thought he had previously reviewed the matter but was unable to find a copy of his response. As a result, Neal said he will evaluate the information again. All complaints to the committee are handled with an initial review by the executive director, who has the authority to reject them. The group's complaint was based on a report by the inspector general of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. focusing on the actions of Mrs. Clinton for the savings and loan owned by her Whitewater partners, Jim and Susan McDougal. Together with the McDougals, the Clintons began development of riverfront property in Arkansas in the 1980s, known as Whitewater. When the development began to fail, additional capital infusions were needed. Evidence and testimony suggest cash infusions were obtained illegally from the federal government and never paid back. Information from federal regulators further indicates that Mrs. Clinton, as a lawyer in Little Rock, created a real estate document later used by her Whitewater partners' savings and loan to deceive federal regulators. The document helped enable the payment of $300,000 in real estate commissions to the father-in-law of Mrs. Clinton's law partner Webster Hubbell. Mrs. Clinton says she recalls nothing about the matter, and her lawyer, David Kendall, called the complaint ridiculous. Neal, who was appointed to his position by the Arkansas court during Clinton's governorship, is leading his committee's investigation of a separate complaint by Southeastern Legal Foundation against President Clinton. The president has until April 21 to respond to a request that he be disbarred for allegedly lying in the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The Arkansas Supreme Court in January ordered the committee on professional conduct to take up long-standing complaints against the president, including one arising from a federal judge holding Clinton in civil contempt of court for giving misleading testimony regarding Lewinsky in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. -- -- **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
Tara wrote: Clinton's a wimp, who won't do anything to help this kid, but then the Canadian government is no better. Except Prime Minister Chretien prefers golfing and travel to sexual promiscuity. You're Canadian? Then you should know that Canada has relations with Cuba, trades with Cuba, and you can hop on a plane in Canada and fly to Cuba for a nice, cheap vacation. Americans can't. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] abortion and gun control
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Re: [CTRL] Abortionits are SHITHEADS!!!
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Re: [CTRL] Abortionits are SHITHEADS!!!
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Re: [CTRL] abortion and gun control
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3
e of the Virgin Mary in the courtyard of what was a primary school, within the now abandoned compound of the Movement for the Restoration of the 10 Commandments religious sect. http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/uganda/counterfeit/dream/2408/ny183 # Are cults on the increase? As media around the world puzzles over why a Ugandan cult could lure more than 900 people to their deaths, Fortean Times magazine has reported that these groups appear to be increasing around the globe. Perhaps because of near-superstitious fears and fas- cination with the Millennium, cults are flourishing and gaining attention of the authorities. http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal040601.html : Is your cult growing/shrinking/changing? Does your cult devour other cults or has it been devoured?How many commandments does your cult have/need/want? Are you driven by millennial fears,demonic possession, mindcontrol rays, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiBriefs - It's YOUR turn to ask the questions: # Where's the Edge? (NASA) Will we always be confined to the Solar System? Not if NASA can help it! We're turning S.F. into S.O.P. - new ways to reach the stars: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast11apr_1m.htm # Justice: Elian Standoff Is No Waco (AP) One protester threatened "another Waco" and another said authorities will have to take Elian Gonzalez "over the bodies" of Cuban-American protesters. D'ya have a problem with that? http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000411/17/int-cuban-boy-avoiding-violence # U.S. Scientists Urge Against Missile Defense System. WASHINGTON (Reuters) Prominent US scientists with missile experience have opposed plans for a national anti-missile shield, saying the proposed system would not work. So what? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2411/ts/arms_starwars_1.html # Giant GM salmon on the way - Natural salmon could become a thing of the past.(BBC) Genetically-modified fish, which can grow up to 10 times faster than normal, could be cleared for human consumption within a year. Fry'em faster: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_708000/708927.stm # NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) Gentle melodies strummed on a 6-foot tall harp lilt into nurseries where critically ill newborns cling to life. La la la la live: http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000409/12/exp-healing-harpist _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If we don't get an answer, we will, strengthened by the support we receive, try to overthrow the government." --Brigitte Bardot * Rev.R.Carter, ULC * http://skepticon.pitas.com * FAX: 603-415-3736 * SkeptiNews bulletins now *ONLINE* at: http://skeptinews.pitas.com/ * Fringes of Thought, Experience, Behavior, Knowledge, Foreboding... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The High-Tech Plantation
Two points here: first, U.S. corporations, for the most part, are extremely reluctant to put out the money needed to train the workers they have to fill the positions they need filled. Why? Because either the newly-trained specialists will immediately leave for higher-paying jobs, or if they stay they will demand higher pay and more benefits. Either way the company's profit margin is cut, which maketh the stockholders most unhappy. Second, when the news stories refer to "foreign workers," that's a euphemism for East Asian (Indian and Pakistani) workers. Like it or not, India in particular has developed a major software industry. Given the highly favorable exchange rate for the rupee vs. the U.S. dollar, it is far cheaper for people to get trained in Mumbai (Bombay) or New Delhi or Madras and then come to the States to work. (A former help desk colleague from India took a leave of absence to return to India for Windows NT training because it was MUCH less expensive than the equivalent course here--something on the order of $500 against $5,000 in the U.S.) These programmers, etc., by the way, are not being hired on the cheap; they are getting the same amount that their American counterparts do. The main difference is in the training overhead. Hell, if someone would pay my airfare, I'd fly to India for training! - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The High-Tech Plantation In a message dated 00-03-16 11:22:39 EST, DasGoat sends (via Kris): "Claiming there are now over a third of a million more high-tech jobs than US workers to fill them, Rep. David Drier, R-Calif., said the present ceiling on immigrant visas doesn't meet the needs of an increasingly digitalized economy. ``If we can't bring these people to the US, corporations will move high-tech jobs to some other country,'' said Rep. Tom Davis R-Va. I can't believe I missed this. Where are these jobs that go unfilled? This is just more corporate bullshit. The truth is that these corporations do not want to pay a living wage to the people who do the work. In the past seven years I have been a displaced worker three times. Once from a small company that moved because the owner wanted the business closer to where he lived. Next Digital Electronics Corp. moved the disk drive manufacturing business to Malaysia thinking they could make more profits with people who would work for pennies on the dollar ... they went bust in Malaysia. Now the company I currently work for "Quantum" is sending the tape drive manufacturing business to Malaysia and the tape drive repair business to Mexico ... I hope they lose their shirt. The worst part of it all is that they want us to be cheerful about losing our jobs (for the good of the company) and train these assholes how to do our job ... that bites. Many people (if not most) think that violence is not the answer. These corps are taking the very food from our mouths and the mouths of our children. They could care less whether we live or die. I'm not so sure that writing congress is a viable answer, I write them sometimes two or three times a month, and if I get anything back, it is usually a form letter. Congress accepts bribes from all these corps. I'm starting to lean toward the idea that violence is the only thing that will stop them ... what can they do if 100,000,000 people decide to "just say no" to working for peanuts at a corp. Of course they will send the business to a third world country, but then people here will start to go hungry and hunger makes people desperate, then what will they do if 30,000,000 arm themselves and decide to make things right, answer - here isn't a f___ing thing they can do about it. Feeling more than a little pissed about Corporate Control, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
The Nazis TRIED it. It worked too well...the weapon killed the target, all right, but it also killed its operators. The U.S. and British armies found the remains of experimental sonic weapons on the Lüneburg Heath in North Germany...concrete towers with huge concave "mirrors" designed to focus and direct the soundwaves. - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2 snip @ The Sonic Weapon of Vladimir Gavreau. At a very specific pitch, infrasound explodes matter. At others, infrasound incapacitates and kills. Organisms rupture in its blast. Sea creatures use this power to stun and kill prey. Nazis used it too: http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/gavreaus.htm snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [a16-international-planning] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: Media Distortion of World Bank/IMF Protests
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From: FAIR-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:53 AM
Subject: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: Media Distortion of World Bank/IMF
Protests
FAIR-L
Fairness Accuracy in Reporting
Media analysis, critiques and news reports
ACTION ALERT:
Media Distortion of World Bank/IMF Protests Starts Early
April 11, 2000
Mainstream media have begun to turn their attention to Washington, D.C.,
and
the Mobilization for Global Justice, a week-long series of protests
coinciding with the meetings of the World Bank and International
Monetary
Fund (IMF) scheduled for April 16 and 17. Many of the stories draw
parallels
between the events in D.C. and the World Trade Organization (WTO)
protests
in Seattle last year ("Seattle Protesters Are Back, With a New Target,
"
New York Times, 4/9/00).
But recent TV news broadcasts have distorted or omitted basic facts
about
the upcoming protests. On April 6, ABC World News Tonight aired a story
about people arriving for an "unusual demonstration" focused on
"American
trade relations with China." The broadcast never even mentioned the
wider
targets of the protest: the World Bank and the IMF.
On the same night, CBS Evening News presented a report loaded with
inaccuracies. Anchor Dan Rather opened by warning protesters that "if
they're hoping for a replay of last year's violence in Seattle, those
charged with keeping the peace in Washington, D.C., have other ideas."
The report continues with this distortion of the Seattle protests: "By
all
accounts, protesters outside last December's meeting of the World Trade
Organization in Seattle simply got the better of police."
That conclusion is certainly not the consensus of "all accounts." The
firsthand accounts of activists and bystanders alike depicted a police
force
in Seattle remarkable for its brutality, not its inadequacy. It is
doubtful
that many activists who were beaten or gassed at the WTO protests feel
they
"got the better" of the police force. (See "Pepper Spray Gets in Their
Eyes:
Media missed militarization of police work in Seattle," Extra!, 3-4/00,
http://www.fair.org/extra/0003/pepper-spray.html .)
Nonetheless, the idea that protesters are interested in creating
violence
is
reinforced later in the broadcast, where correspondent Jim Stewart
incorrectly asserts that activists are "practicing urban assault
techniques"
in preparation for the protests. Ironically, moments later the report
features Ruckus Society program director Han Shan advocating
non-violence.
The media focus on the potential for "violence" by the D.C. protesters
reflects a rewriting of what actually happened at Seattle. The New York
Times (4/9/00) was typical when it referred to "the unrest in Seattle,
where
a rare alchemy of violence and vandalism by a small group of anarchists
botched crowd control."
In fact, police began using chemical agents against non-violent
protesters
long before a handful of WTO opponents engaged in window-breaking. (See
"Prattle in Seattle," Extra!, 1-2/00,
http://www.fair.org/extra/0001/wto-prattle.html .) Media accounts have
consistently reversed the chronology, however, blaming the police
violence
on the vandals, who in fact were largely ignored by police. The vast
majority of violence-- which is a different thing than vandalism-- was
committed in Seattle by the Seattle police department.
ACTION: Please contact these media outlets in the next few days, and
encourage them to cover the protests against the World Bank and IMF
fully
and fairly. You might suggest that they begin by including the views of
anti-World Bank and IMF activists on issues other than the potential for
violence.
CONTACT:
CBS Evening News
Phone: (212) 975-3691, (202) 457-4385
Fax: (212) 975-1893
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ABC World News Tonight
Phone: (212) 456-4040
Fax: (212) 456-4297
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New York Times
Washington, DC Bureau
Fax: (202) 862-0340
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For background on the protests, please visit http://www.a16.org .
Independent media coverage of the protests will be featured at
http://www.indymedia.org
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[CTRL] Help please
Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of Sutton's book America's Secret establishment? I can't seem to find it on some bookstore searches. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Help please
You could try a search at: www.abebooks.com/ On Tue, 11 April 2000, Tenorlove wrote: Does anyone know how to obtain a copy of Sutton's book America's Secret establishment? I can't seem to find it on some bookstore searches. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Abortionits are S . . .- -NOPOST
Since this is a Conspiracy Theory list, our discussions should, NO, MUST contain information of a conspiratorial nature. Just running around calling people names and quoting scripture to demonize those who disagree with you will not cut it. Abortion is a very touchy subject with a lot of people, not the least of which must be those who have undergone the procedure (It cannot be an easy decision to have your body invaded in that way). I am in favor of keeping this list on topic. If anyone wishes to discuss the uses for societal manipulation this has, the effects of tissue harvesting and the role of elite medicos in the formation of new law and technology in this area, that would be a couple of on topic points that connect with this issue. If, on the other hand, one wanted to say that abortionists need to drop dead, or that people who have abortions should be killed, or just quote scripture and press moral points condemning the practice, then they have NO PLACE here. On Tue, 11 April 2000, nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: This is off subject and this list is not the forum for a discussion of abortion. Maybe these people came here specifically to distract us from the topic. Maybe we're victims of a psy-op. It's apparently extremely easy to distract people with hot button issues. Passions run high on both sides of a number of issues. Abortion is not the only one. It is, however, one over which buildings are being blown up and people gunned down in cold blood. That's warfare by any definition. . That puts abortion in a class by itself. It's essentially a religious issue. Bottom line: If you attempt to impose your religion on my by force, I'll kill you. I'm sure you'd do the same. This is NOT an extremist position. This is how MOST people feel. Fortunately, most people don't want a war. Nevertheless, we have a war. That doesn't mean this list should be the scene of a front. I propose that, just as an experiment, we continue to discuss abortion but abstain from discussing the ethics and morals involved. While they are the most passion evoking aspects of the subject, they far from the whole of it. We could talk about how abortion is used to divide us and who benefits when we are divided. That's certainly on topic. We could talk about who is protecting the fugitive terrorist and murderer Rudolph. They are, by definition, a conspiracy. We could talk about the Phineas Priests. They are archetypical of "cults who kill." Cults and conspiracy go hand in hand. Speaking of cults, we could talk about Vatican for years without ever once having to mention religion. All we have to do is focus on the Vatican's bank scandal, it's collaboration with Nazis, it's sponsorship of the Ustashi's genocide, the Inquisition, the suppression of science and the ecological disaster that the Church's opposition to birth control makes virtually inevitable. Or we could call each other names. Either way's fine with me. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used
Re: [CTRL] abortion and gun control
The antigun control movement bears the responsibility to heal that antipathy. I would notexpect either the pro- or anti- life/abortion factions to do it. I would think the issue is why/whether abortion is related to gun ownership. I can't see that they are. The fact that some illogically relate the two issues should not color the whole movement. - Original Message - From: nessie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:14 PM Subject: [CTRL] abortion and gun control The antipathy between the pro-choice and anti-choice factions of theanti-gun control movement is deep and passionate. The gun grabbers knowit. Will we let them divide our forces? Or will we agree to disagree andpresent a united front?A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordidmattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlA HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
[CTRL] Nazi Eugenics = Anti-Humanism
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nazi Eugenics = Anti-Humanism Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:20 PM RE: http://SecularHumanism.org/library/fi/100_humanist_20.2.htm In their spring 2000 issue, the editors of Free Inquiry, the journal of the Council for Secular Humanism, honor Margaret Sanger--who founded Planned Parenthood--by including her efforts in a listing of "100 Humanist Events That Changed the World." Free Inquiry states: "Margaret Sanger opens first birth control clinic (1916). Pioneered idea that family size should be a woman's choice; opposed religious control over reproduction, promoted decoupling of reproduction from the sex act." (Free Inquiry, 20(2), page 46) Whatever one may feel about a woman's right to choose an abortion, the fact is that Sanger's efforts were not aimed at maximizing free choice, but were instead part of a plan to eliminate human beings, particularly those human beings that Sanger believed were not fit to exist. Sanger was a leading proponent of compulsory eugenics, believing that family size should be determined not by parents or the Church, but by government planners. Sanger advocated "Race Building" and a plan that would relocate a large portion of humanity into concentration camps where they would be prevented from reproducing their "unfit" and "degenerate" kind. Sanger outlined her plan for such a monstrous aggression on humanity in her book The Pivot of Civilization [1] and in her journal Birth Control Review, [2] which provided a forum for some of the most evil and repugnant features of Nazism. The slogan on Sanger's journal reads: "Birth Control: to create a race of thoroughbreds." Her journal even featured an article by Dr. Ernst Rubin, Adolf Hitler's director of genetic sterilization. The very same issue of Free Inquiry that praises Sanger highlights on its cover an article by Peter Singer, a modern-day Sanger (http://secularhumanism.org/fi/covers/spring99a.gif) who believes in killing infants after they're born if he determines that the infant would grow up being more unhappy than happy, such as if the infant was retarded. There is no overlap of Nazism and liberty, but there is an overlapping of Nazism and social engineering, which highlights the danger of ideologies that reduce all of humanity to clay to be molded by central planners. The following are excerpts from the Birth Control Review (posted here http://hli.org/issues/pp/bcreview/index.html): = Margaret Sanger, "Birth Control and Women's Health." Birth Control Review, Dec. 1917, Vol. I, No. 12, page 7: "In the early history of the race, so-called "natural law" reigned undisturbed. Under its pitiless and unsympathetic iron rule, only the strongest, most courageous could live and become progenitors of the race. The weak died early or were killed. Today, however, civilization has brought sympathy, pity, tenderness and other lofty and worthy sentiments, which interfere with the law of natural selection. We are now in a state where our charities, our compensation acts, our pensions, hospitals, and even our drainage and sanitary equipment all tend to keep alive the sickly and the weak, who are allowed to propagate and in turn produce a race of degenerates." = Some words Sanger uses to describe those that she deems to be "unfit" for existence are words that evoke loathing and hate. = Margaret Sanger, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, Oct. 1921, Vol. V, No. 10, page 5: "Today Eugenics is suggested by the most diverse minds as the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political, and social problems ... As an advocate of Birth Control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the "unfit" and the "fit," admittedly the greatest present menace to the human race, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between the two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation to the mentally and physically fit though less fertile parents of the educated and well-to-do classes. On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over fertility of the mentally and physically defective ... Birth Control is not advanced as a panacea by which past and present evils of dysgenic breeding can be magically
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A drug connection to Elian Gonzalez politics??
Well, this could be an answer to my question a few days ago as to whether there could be anything pertinent to this list in the Elian Gonzalez case. I thought perhaps my imagination was running wild, but here's an article from Robert Parry's website www.consortiumnews.com! David Goldman Behind the Elian Case By Jerry Meldon The Elian Gonzalez case has centered on the fate of a six-year-old boy and the no-risk politics of talking tough about Fidel Castro. But the controversy also underscores the moral ambiguity of the U.S. diplomatic position on Cuba for the past four decades. The boy landed among those old antagonisms when he was pulled from the Straits of Florida on Thanksgiving Day after an over-crowded 17-foot powerboat capsized killing Elians mother, her boyfriend and other passengers. Legal principle required that the boy promptly be returned to his surviving father. But anti-Castro politics soon intervened. The powerful Cuban-American National Foundation labeled Elian another child victim of Fidel Castro. Hard-line elements of the Miami community seized on the case as another way to do battle against their old enemy in Havana. Politicians, including Gov. George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore, voiced opposition to sending the boy back to Cuba. Little noticed by the U.S. news media, however, was the fact that some of the Cuban-Americans fanning the flames had long-standing ties to anti-Castro terrorism. Some also collaborated with drug-tainted right-wing forces that carried out bloody human rights violations in the 1970s and 1980s. Their commitment to family values and the rule of law might have been drawn into question. For instance, one prominent Miami-based spokesman on the Elian case is Jose Basulto. A Bay of Pigs veteran, Basulto has acknowledged past involvement in terror attacks on Cuba in the 1960s as well as work for Argentinas military government, a regime that tortured and disappeared an estimated 30,000 political dissidents from 1976-83 -- and allegedly financed some of its operations with drug proceeds. Basultos experiences in secret wars against Castro and other leftists dated back to 1959. In that year, Castros revolutionary army overthrew a Mafia-connected dictator, Gen. Fulgencio Batista, and Basulto emigrated to the United States. In Miami, he and his friend Felix Rodriguez signed up with the CIA-backed Brigade 2506. They were infiltrated into Cuba before the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. After the invasion failed, Basulto and Rodriguez escaped back to Miami, where they nursed grievances over alleged U.S. betrayal. They also continued work for CIA-funded groups and plotted new ways to strike at Castro. On Aug. 24, 1962, the 22-year-old Basulto manned a 22mm cannon aboard a boat that had maneuvered 200 yards off the coast of Miramar, west of Havana. Castro was known to frequent the Hornedo de Rosita Hotel, a crowded tourist spot that also housed Soviet bloc specialists. At 11:30 p.m., Basulto opened fire, shattering windows and sowing terror but failing to kill Castro (who wasnt there) or anyone else. Reflecting back on these activities 35 years later, Basulto acknowledged that we were pretty [lousy] terrorists, let me tell you. [Washington Post Magazine, May 20, 1997] On March 20, 1963, Basulto and 50 other Bay of Pigs veterans enlisted in the U.S. Army with commissions as second lieutenants. Basulto received psychological warfare training at Fort Bragg, N.C., and Fort Benning, Ga. After leaving the Army, he returned to the shadowy world of anti-Castro politics in Miami. [One of Basultos Cuban comrades in the U.S. Army was his friend, Felix Rodriguez, who would go on to a long career in the CIA before representing Vice President George Bushs office in Central America during the 1980s.] In the years after the Army, Basulto claimed he adopted the pacifist teachings of Mahatma Gandhi. But outside experts believe Basulto remained active in the anti-Castro terrorist underground. In an interview with The Washington Post, Basulto seemed to confirm that suspicion. He said: About that time in my life, I have only one thing I want to say. We had come to the conclusion that the only hope for the Cuban people lay in the physical elimination of Fidel Castro. Basulto insisted that he
[CTRL] Nazi pinkoes
Subject: Nazi pinkoes Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:12:19 +0200 From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not directly connected to BRIT-AM themes: The following note is sent in the interests of public knowledge. It explains the Nazi influences on the gay rights movement. From: Eleazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question... What is a cult anyway? "What exactly is a cult, anyway?" "A cult is a group of people who organize around a strong authority figure. Cults, like many other groups, attempt to expand their influence for the purposes of power or money. However, to achieve these ends, destructive cults employ a potent mixture of influence techniques and deception to attain psychological control over members and new recruits. This fundamental level of control is known alternatively as 'brainwashing,' 'thought reform,' or 'mind control.' A successful induction by a destructive cult displaces a person's former identity and replaces it with a new one. That new identity may not be one that the person would have freely chosen under her own volition (Hassan, 1990)." [exerpted from http://www.influenceatwork.com/cult.html ] Comments... The "gay" rights movement in Germany during the 20s and 30s functioned as a cult, just as it does in America today. In Germany, as in American psychiatry provided the "scientific" legitimization for the normalization of homosexuality, i.e., the 1973 decision to remove homosexuality from the American Psyciatric's Diagnistics Statistics Manual. The Nazis actually organized what became the largest "gay" rights group in Germany, known as the Bund fur Menschensrecht or Society for Human Rights. Henry Gerber, a German American serving with the American occupation forces in Germany after WWI sought out and joined the Nazi "gay" rights group. After the war and his return to Chicago, in 1925 Gerber registered the first American chapter of The Society for Human Rights. Like most of the Nazi leadership during the 20s and early thirties, Gerber was a "gay" pederast and sought to bring his brand of "freedom" to America. Largely unknown, is Gerber may have been the first to register a Nazi organization in America. Like today, Gerber and his Nazi mentors used "human rights" as an apparently virtuous cloak for legitimacy and acceptance in America. As usual, evil mimics virtue and truth in which freedom mutates into licence and brutality. Never has, "those who show compassion for the wicked, will end by persecuting the compassionate," ever been so true as in the case of "gay" rights." The so-called "gay" identity, while a false "scientific" and (anti) social construct, is diabolically destructive. When Hitler arrived on the scene, the disinherited and alienated male youth of his times were ripe for a powerful male role model - a strong authority figure. Extensive research establishes, the Nazis never could have seized power in Germany without the German "gay" rights movement. Similarly, the present "gay" rights movements manouvering for influence and power in Israel, Canada and the United States are a Nazi fifth column. In this regard, "gays" as a militaristic cult, pose the greatest single threat to western civilization and Israel. They are the Oedupis warriors and the most ruthless murderers throughout history. Further documentation available... Read The Pink Swastika by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams (1997) Germany's National Vice by Samuel Igra (1945) "The Bible...he who has lost his God can rediscover Him in this work. He who has never known Him will inhale here the breath of God's word." -Heinrich Heine. "It is impossible to mentally or socially enslave a Bible-reading people. The principles of the Bible are the ground work of human freedom." -Horace Greeley. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe
[CTRL] Hebrew Runes in Sweden
Hebrew Runes in Sweden Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:26:12 +0200 From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Orjan questioned: From: Orjan Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK. Have a nice time, When you return if you wish to be subscribed please say so, God Bless you, Yair Davidy. Shalom, How are you? Why did you send the above message to me? I hope you have not removed me from the mailing list, Answer from Yair Davidy: It was a mistake. A copy of the message was sent out (by mistake) to everybody on the list. You are still on the list. Orjan also stated: Lately I have done some statistical examinations of runic inscriptions. I have compared relative frequency of runes with the relative frequencies of corresponding Hebrew characters in the Hebrew Bible. I used a Bible Codes program, and compared relative frequencies of runes in the runic inscriptions with relative frequencies in ALL books in the Hebrew Bible. What I found was that the correlation coefficients were highest for the book of Job. In other words: In significant statistical respects the language of the Blekinge inscriptions resembles the language of the book of Job more than any other book in the Hebrew bible. What conclusions can be drawn from that? From what I know Job lived in the land of UTZ, which was between the land of Israel and the Euphrates river. If the language of UTZ is reflected in the book of Job, then my findings indicate that the origin of the Blekinge people is to be found close to the land of UTZ. One of the Isralite tribes who lived closest to the area of UTZ, was the tribe of GAD, so my recent findings actually may indicate that your indentification of the Swedes with Gad is correct. Your friend, Orjan For a subscription of four issues of BRIT-AM send $30 to: Yair Davidy POB 595 Jerusalem 91004 Israel. BRIT-AM is a magazine that carries a unique message and contains information vital to you and the future. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 4/11/00
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Gold Market GoldAvenue Attempts to Boost Gold Prices Buy gold on the Worldwide Web. J.P. Morgan, the investment bank, and two of the gold sector's leading companies are starting an internet site selling "all things gold" in an attempt to boost the flagging price. The site, to be called GoldAvenue, is backed by South Africa's AngloGold, the world's largest gold miner, and Swiss-based PAMP, the world's largest private gold refiner. The three planned to sign an agreement today to form a joint venture, which was expected to go online in the second half of this year. The three companies are putting up $20m in initial capital for GoldAvenue's first year. The organisers said the web site would eventually be a one-stop shop for gold investors and merchants although its initial focus will be on selling gold to retail customers. Bobby Godsell, AngloGold chief executive, said GoldAvenue was an attempt to find new gold buyers now that central banks have become sellers. Market conditions deteriorated to the point last year that European central banks agreed in September to cap their gold sales during the next five years. "We have been arguing that if the gold industry is going to take charge of its destiny, it's going to have to go out and find a customer base directly," Mr Godsell said. To that end, GoldAvenue will sell everything from gold watches and chains to individual grams of the metal. For investors, the minimum balance will be only $50. "We want to be all things gold," said Mehdi Barkhordar, GoldAvenue's chief executive and managing director of PAMP. "When you think of gold, you think of us." The organisers are looking to target the US market first, before moving into emerging markets, where gold remains a favoured investment. "The problem in western markets is gold investments are inaccessible," Godsell said. "Western markets, we think, have been underdeveloped." The organisers hope the site would eventually feature business-to-business gold trading. However, Mr Barkhordar said the partners had no timetable for such trading and were concentrating on getting the retail operation started before the Christmas season. William Winters, head of J.P. Morgan's markets arms, said the bank would provide trading capabilities and vault services to the joint venture. GoldAvenue is the latest in a series of internet ventures that J.P. Morgan has announced in recent months, most of them looking to commercialise existing businesses. The Financial Times, April 11, 2000 US Politics Criminal Indictment of Clinton Still Possible Don't go off the deep end, Mr. Chump President. Independent counsel Robert W. Ray considers the investigation of President Clinton's relationship with Monica S. Lewinsky an "open" matter and is actively considering seeking an indictment against the president after he leaves office next January. Rather than winding down the independent counsel's office after the departure of Kenneth W. Starr and Clinton's impeachment trial, Ray recently hired six new lawyers with significant prosecutorial and other experience, as well as one investigator, and has an FBI agent detailed to his staff. In addition, Ray has projected spending $3.5 million over the next six months, an increase over the $3.1 million spent during the past half-year. Among the criminal charges being weighed against Clinton in the Lewinsky matter are perjury, obstruction of justice, making false statements, and conspiracy to commit those crimes when he was questioned under oath about his relationship with the former White House intern. "It is an open investigation," Ray said in an interview yesterday. "There is a principle to be vindicated, and that principle is that no person is above the law, even the president of the United States. That is what we have been charged with doing." Ray previously has said he would defer any decision about whether to indict Clinton until after the November elections. But the new revelations about the aggressiveness of the probe indicate that this is not an academic exercise and that an indictment of the president is under serious consideration. Clinton's private attorney, David E. Kendall, declined to comment. Reid Weingarten, a former senior trial attorney in the Justice Department's public integrity section and a Washington defense lawyer, said yesterday that the public would be surprised by the direction of Ray's investigation. "I believe the great majority of Americans fervently wish that this matter was behind them and they will be chagrined by the news," Weingarten said. "I, however, have a great deal of experience with independent counsels, and I am not the least bit surprised that this one, like so many others, has great difficulty in closing the book." In addition to examining Clinton's testimony about Lewinsky, Ray's investigation involves
[CTRL] Fwd: Philippines
STRATFOR.COM's Global Intelligence Update - 12 April 2000 By The Internet's Most Intelligent Source of International News Analysis http://www.stratfor.com/ __ Know the every move of your competitors -- even before they do. Stratfor Intelligence Services http://www.stratfor.com/services/ __ WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR WORLD Have you visited our web site recently? We've made some new changes that make using the site more efficient, allowing greater access to thousands of reports. Visit http://www.stratfor.com today. __ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update 12 April 2000 Rebels Target Fragile Philippine Infrastructure After four years of relative quiet, separatist violence in the Philippines has recently escalated, adding to the increasingly full plate of troubles facing President Joseph Estrada. Now the situation appears poised to worsen: Rebels in both the northern and southern portions of the country may soon shift their strategy to attacks on the country's fragile energy infrastructure. If upcoming peace talks between the government and the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) fail, the rebels may exploit the already high levels of unrest in the Philippines to better their chances in the event of a full-scale civil war. Analysis: On April 9, an Iranian national en route to the Philippine island of Mindanao was arrested after immigration authorities reportedly found a map of "American facilities and oil depots" in his backpack, according to the Philippine Star web site. He was likely sent to assist one of several separatist groups in their campaign for an independent Muslim state on the island. The incident may signify that the country's insurgent groups - which include communist rebels in addition to Muslim separatists - are shifting their focus to strikes upon the country's energy supply. With a round of peace negotiations set to begin on May 2, rebels may attempt to pressure the government through a new wave of attacks. A failure to negotiate a peaceful solution may prompt preparations for a full-scale civil war. After four years of relative quiet, separatist violence in the Philippines has recently escalated. In desperation, Estrada has now set a deadline for a peace agreement with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), a 15,000-strong group. If a working agreement has not been established by June 30, Estrada said, the government will launch a full-scale offensive on the rebels. In the case of a full-scale offensive, the MILF would likely join forces with other rebel organizations. Many of them have a history of cooperation. On April 6, communist rebels of the National Democracy Front (NDF) announced plans to increase their already strong alliance with the MILF. In recent weeks, both the MILF and an NDF splinter group have attacked the country's oil and power infrastructure. On April 10, the MILF attacked a hydroelectric power plant near the southern town of Baloi. The attack cut off electricity to the island's 16 million residents. In the past the MILF has held the region's power supply ransom in order to extract payoffs from the government. Now it appears that the MILF has chosen to use the nation's power infrastructure to combat the government In addition to the sabotaged power plant, oil infrastructure has also been a recent target of rebel attacks. Last month, a communist group known as the Revolutionary Proletarian Army-Alex Boncayao Brigade (ABB) attacked an oil depot and the offices of oil firms Petron and Shell. The group has declared it will pose a "perpetual threat" to oil companies for jacking up prices, reported The Manila Times March 4. Targeting the power supply could aid the rebels by exacerbating already high levels of unrest and social turmoil. Last December, for example, jellyfish clogged the cooling system of a single coal- fired power plant on the island of Luzon. As a result, the entire island, population 40 million, lost power for the night. Philippine papers reported widespread fear that the blackout was part of a putsch to topple Estrada's disparaged government. By attacking a single power plant, a small number of rebels could throw huge areas of the Philippines into chaos. Ensuing unrest might occupy government forces sufficiently to boost the effectiveness of a rebel attack. Attacks upon oil infrastructure could yield similar results by creating an oil shortage. The country's domestic production sits at only 4,000 barrels per day, forcing the government to import almost all its oil from the three major foreign or joint venture oil companies operating refineries within the country: Shell, Petron and Caltex. Attacks could send these companies fleeing, or at least force them to limit their supply, nudging the price of oil up even further. Already, the high price of oil has caused massive social distress, accelerating the
[CTRL] Internet transforms culture of spying
from: http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/04/06/fp1s3-csm.shtml Click Here: A HREF="http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2000/04/06/fp1s3-csm.shtml"Christian Science Monitor/A - THURSDAY, APRIL 6, 2000 Headlines e-mail this story to a friend USA Internet transforms culture of spying * With so much 'intelligence' available online, critics say CIA should downplay covert strategy. Justin Brown Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor WASHINGTON When Russian tanks unexpectedly rolled into Kosovo last summer - preempting and embarrassing NATO troops - George Friedman said he was among the first Americans to know. Mr. Friedman, who runs a private intelligence company in Texas, received an e-mail almost immediately from one of his sources in Kosovo. "We knew before the government knew," he says. Voice- recognition software grows up SETI's search turns 40 "Smart Mice?" A biotech glossary While Friedman's scoop may have been inconsequential - the news was widely available minutes later - it underscores the rapidly changing world of intelligence gathering. Local press reports, once smuggled across borders at great risk, are available on the Internet. High-resolution satellite images, once the domain of superpowers, can be purchased for about $2,000 a shot. And, with the collapse of the Berlin Wall, it takes little more than a passport and a plane ticket so see what were once the world's most forbidden cities. "When you desire something," Mr. Friedman explains, "it's just as easy as asking someone who's over there, 'Hey, can you do me a favor?' " But while the changing landscape of information gathering has helped businesses like Friedman's, it has cut both ways for America's 13 intelligence agencies, spearheaded by the CIA. On one hand, new technology has allowed them to do the same job they have been doing for decades - with less money and less uncertainty. On the other hand, it has chipped away at their raison d'être. According to former CIA director James Woolsey, for example, about 95 percent of all economic intelligence comes from "open sources," or sources that are available to the public. "Five percent is essentially secrets that we steal," he recently said at a press conference. "We steal secrets with espionage, with communications, with reconnaissance satellites." Big espionage budgets Given those figures, analysts say, it is becoming more and more difficult for the intelligence agencies to justify their methods and budgets. Intelligence agencies spend about $30 billion annually - roughly the same as they received at the peak of cold war spending and more than Russia's federal budget today. And they do so at substantial danger - to the international reputation of the US, to ongoing diplomatic efforts, and, sometimes, to human life. There are also problems in what the CIA does not do, analysts say. They are accused of not taking full advantage of open sources and criticized for refusing to admit that they need a paradigm change following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Today, there are a wide range of potentially threatening countries (no longer just the Soviet Union). There are also a wide range of intelligence consumers, from political officials to economic experts to US allies in NATO. So much information is available through new technologies that the greatest difficulty becomes sorting through fact and fiction. According to Greg Treverton, a former high-level intelligence official under the first Clinton administration, CIA analysts often go to great lengths to produce reports that could have been gleaned from the Internet or from private-sector sources. "In a world in which everyone is dependent on information processors, [the CIA] should think of themselves as the shapers and verifiers of all that information," says Mr. Treverton, now an analyst at Rand Corp. Robert Steele, a former Marine Corps intelligence officer, has crusaded to get the CIA and other agencies to use more open sources. He proposes that the government spend $1 billion tapping private-sector analysis from companies like the one he presides over, Open Source Solutions Inc. "We should be in the business of informing the government, not stealing secrets," says Mr. Steele. Perhaps the strongest charges being levied against the CIA - and its director, George Tenet - are that the agency has responded to criticism and di minished influence by becoming too politicized. Melvin Goodman, a former CIA official who now works at the Center for International Policy, argues that Mr. Tenet has tried to exaggerate threats to the US as a means of preserving the agency. He also says Tenet has tried to find a niche for the CIA among the 13 intelligence agencies as the specialist in covert actions and "gadgets." "They're increasingly touting an ability that's no longer relevant in the post-cold-war environment," says Mr. Goodman. Critics of the CIA also fault the agency for not reinventing itself in the age of
[CTRL] Report: Eavesdropping damaged spies hearing
from; http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSHeyMartha0004/10_spies.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSHeyMartha0004/10_spies.html"Rep ort: Eavesdropping damaged spies hearing/A - Monday, April 10, 2000 Report: Eavesdropping damaged spies hearing LONDON (AP) -- More than a hundred British intelligence officers have been compensated for hearing loss caused by too much eavesdropping on the enemy, The Sunday Telegraph reported. A government spokeswoman offered no immediate comment on the report that staff at the Government Communications Headquarters -- the agency that monitors global communications -- had suffered hearing loss while listening to "enemy emissions." The center at Cheltenham, 90 miles northwest of London, employs some 4,000 people including code breakers, computer experts and linguists. The Sunday Telegraph said staff blamed inadequate headphones -- which have since been replaced -- for the hearing damage. Staff "turned the volume up to full if foreign transmissions were difficult to understand. Some transmissions were accompanied by constant buzzing and crackling," the newspaper said. New headphones, introduced in 1995, came too late for operators who worked at the center during the height of the Cold War, the newspaper said. Individual staff have received compensation payments of up to $31,800, the report said. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
