[CTRL] RACE WAR in zim
http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/margolis.html Toronto Sun April 23, 2000 Whites targeted in Mugabe's race war By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor NEW YORK -- The murder of another white farmer in Zimbabwe last week is emblematic of a tragic, but little known story - the relentless ethnic cleansing of the white tribes of Africa. Martin Olds was besieged at his isolated tobacco farm by a gang of 100 thugs. After holding them off for many hours, he was finally wounded, driven from his burning farmhouse, then killed. The attackers were unleashed as a part of a campaign by Zimbabwe's aging strongman, Robert Mugabe, to divert attention from the nation's collapsing economy, and to restore his waning political power by whipping up hatred of the nation's 4,000 white farmers. These whites, many third-generation farmers, own a sizable portion of the nation's prime farmland, and produce 80% of Zimbabwe's agricultural exports. Without them, Zimbabwe's economy would collapse. But Mugabe still chose to revive racial hatreds from the 1970-1980 black-white war in former Rhodesia that cost 27,000 lives and forced half the nation's white citizens to flee. The murder in Zimbabwe brings back ugly memories. Back in the late 1980s, I accompanied black South African troops patrolling the Limpopo River border between Zimbabwe and South Africa. Bands of African National Congress thugs and pillagers, described in the liberal western press as "freedom fighters," were raiding isolated farmhouses along the Limpopo. I vividly recall one burned-out farm where a 74-year-old man and his 68-year-old wife had held off some 200 ANC thugs for an entire night. The marauders finally ignited the roof with Molotov cocktails and drove the occupants outside. The old man was shot, then hacked to death with machetes; his wife was gang raped, then slashed to death. This was a part of South Africa's and Zimbabwe's anti-white "liberation struggle" the outside world was not shown. Lost everything Whites have been largely driven from African nations where they once lived in significant numbers. Many lost everything they owned. Many were not even large landowners, but farm labourers and blue or white collar workers. The once substantial European and Asian populations of East Africa - Kenya, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Uganda, Tanzania - were all forced to flee. The important South Asian Hindu and Muslim communities of Uganda and Kenya were terrorized into exile after their shops were looted and many of their women raped or threatened with rape. Zanzibar's entire Arab population - tens of thousands of people - was massacred in 1964. Hundreds of thousands of Portuguese, some from families that had lived for 300 years in Africa, were driven from Mozambique, Angola and Portuguese West Africa. South Africa's remaining 1.6 million whites, some whose families came in the mid-1600s, are fleeing in increasing numbers as crime engulfs the nation. As in Zimbabwe, black extremists in South Africa are calling for confiscation of all white "colonialist" property. The view that Africa's whites are latter-day colonialists who deserve to be expelled is widely shared by the western media. After all, hadn't they or their fathers settled on lands that originally belonged to blacks? This view is not only simplistic, it's often wrong. The African continent has seen vast population and tribal movements over the past 600 years. Bantu blacks only began to filter out of the Congo basin southward towards today's South Africa in the 1500s. White settlers from Flanders and Europe actually preceded them to the Cape Colony. In 1838, Boer pioneers moving north, and Zulu forces expanding south, met and fought in northern Transvaal. During the same era, the mighty Zulu empire was conducting the notorious mfakane - or mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing - of their tribal enemies, the Xhosa and Shona, an event that still stokes tribal tensions today in South Africa and Zimbabwe. Much of Africa's peripheral areas were barely populated during the early era of European colonial rule, or inhabited by non-Bantu peoples who have died out, like the Cape's Hottentots, or been displaced, like Tutsis or Tuaregs. In effect, the Bantu have no better historical claim to many parts of once European-ruled Africa than do descendents of whites, Indians or Arabs. Most important, as I found during East Africa's bush wars, white Rhodesians and South African Boers were not Europeans at all, but two distinct African tribes that happened to have white skins. A few nights in the field with the famed Rhodesian Selous Scouts left me in awe of these burly, hard-drinking, men who spoke badly mauled English and knew the bundu - or bush - like the backs of their big, weather-beaten hands. Europeans they were not. The real problem in Zimbabwe is not that a tiny white minority has usurped the only fertile land. Zimbabwe, and the rest of Africa, have plenty of potentially productive land that today lies fallow
[CTRL] Drugs_Behind_ELIAN_CASE???
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Drugs_Behind_ELIAN_CASE??? Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 7:21 AM - Original Message - From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MCAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 5:06 AM Subject: [Fwd: What is behind the Elian case?] Elian Gonzalez Case .More terror in America! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/terrorin_america.htm Original Message Subject: What is behind the Elian case? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:30:43 -0800 From: Jon Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is behind the Elian case? Jon Roland, Constitution Society The Elian case has given rise to much discussion of why the Clinton administration seems so desperate to placate Castro's demands for the return of Elian Gonzalez. Their April 22 raid, just a day before Easter, seems to have been done, more than anything else, in response to a deadline imposed by Castro. If so, then what threat from Castro could motivate an action that is likely to cost the Democrats the next election? Dick Morris has suggested that the blackmail threat is of another Mariel exodus, dumping thousands of Cuban criminals and mentally deranged persons on the United States, as were most of the 125,000 Cubans that were ejected for the United States in 1980, which has caused a great deal of trouble, and to which Morris says Clinton attributed his election loss as governor. While the behavior of the Clinton administration in the Elian case does indicate it is being done under threat of blackmail, the "nuevo Mariel" theory does not offer a convincing explanation, and may be a misdirection. After all, another Mariel would have little effect on the Clintons or their fortunes, or even on the fortunes of the Democrats, except perhaps in a few local elections. That is a solvable problem. No, the threat must be far more serious than that. For a more plausible theory, we need to consider what Castro might have on Clinton and the Democrats that could drive this administration to conduct such a politically disastrous action, despite the efforts of rigged polls to conceal the political fallout. What Castro and Clinton have in common is drugs. The recent article in _The New Australian_ suggests a better theory. Cuba has become a major transit route for cocaine smuggling into the United States, under the protection of the Cuban government. It is thought to provide much of the funds needed to sustain the Castro regime, after the loss of aid from the Soviet Union. However, for all his faults, Castro is a committed communist, and it is thought that being a drug lord is not how he wants to be remembered by history. And his legacy may be on his mind now. There are rumors that he is in ill health, perhaps even suffering from a terminal malady. He knows his regime will not survive his death. Therefore, he must be considering what he can do for his swan song. Therefore, we need to ask ourselves what sort of thing he might try to do. Several things suggest themselves. One is a kind of "April surprise", like the rumored "October surprise", in which the Republicans, through William Casey, made a deal with the Iranians to continue to hold the hostages through the 1980 election and until the inauguration, which helped defeat Jimmie Carter, in exchange for arms, which were delivered under the cover of the Iran-Contra operation, to provide a plausible misdirection for the motive for it (raising funds to support the contras). So who benefits under this theory. The Republicans. Castro may be blackmailing Clinton into doing something that will cost Gore the election, so that the Republicans will win, and perhaps pay off Castro in some way. This theory is plausible for another reason, because both the Democrat and Republican leadership is suspected of complicity in narcotics trafficking. Clinton may have protected the transit operations at the Mena airport, but it was George Bush and Oliver North who are reported to have been most directly involved in that operation. Castro may be blackmailing the Republicans as well, by threatening to disclose information about such activities that could not be ignored, as have all the eyewitness reports of persons involved in such operations. The situation of narcotics trade needs to be reviewed. It is estimated to be the single largest market in the world, greater than the market for food. It is thought to involve more than $200 billion in annual sales in the United States, which is more than there is currency in circulation. Since almost all of this trade is in cash, that means that almost all cash needs to be laundered to support the narcotics trade, and it is often said that within a few weeks, most new currency becomes tainted with cocaine. How does all this
[CTRL] AUTISM: VACCINE MERCURY POISONING ?
http://www.canfoundation.org/newcansite/sciwatch/invest.html AUTISM: A UNIQUE TYPE OF MERCURY POISONING Sallie Bernard* Albert Enayati, B.S., Ch.E., M.S.M.E. Heidi Roger, Teresa Binstock Lyn Redwood, R.N., M.S.N., C.R.N.P. Woody McGinnis, M.D. *Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (c) 2000 by ARC Research 14 Commerce Drive Cranford, NJ 07016 April 3, 2000 ABSTRACT Autism is a neurodevelopmental syndrome characterized by impairments in social relatedness, language, and communication, a need for routine and sameness, abnormal movements, and sensory dysfunction. Mercury is a toxic metal that can exist as a pure element or in a variety of inorganic and organic forms and can cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and other behavioral dysfunctions. The characteristics of autism and mercury poisoning, derived from a review of medical literature, have been found, upon comparison, to be strikingly similar. The characteristics of both disorders are summarized in the following table and fully elucidated in the body of this document. The parallels between the two diseases are so close that it would be unreasonable to assume that the similarities occur by chance. We claim that autism is a form of mercury poisoning, based on similarities of characteristics and on the known exposure to mercury of the majority of US children. The exposure route is childhood vaccines, most of which contain thimerosal, a preservative comprised of 50% ethylmercury by weight. The amount of mercury a typical child under two years receives from vaccinations equates to 237.5 micrograms, or 3.53 x 1017 molecules (353,000,000,000,000,000 molecules), most of which is not excreted and goes directly to the brain. The amount is known to exceed Federal safety standards, but is still considered a "low" level, such that only a small percentage of exposed individuals will exhibit signs of toxicity. Affected individuals are those genetically prone to mercury sensitivity, which is consistent with the observed high heritability rate of autism. Furthermore, the timing of mercury exposure via vaccines coincides with the emergence of autistic symptoms. Moreover, mercury has been detected in urine, hair, and blood samples from autistic children, and parental reports, though limited at this date, indicate significant improvement in symptoms with administration of standard heavy metal chelators. Thus, the four agreed-upon criteria used by clinicians to diagnose mercury poisoning -- i.e., observable symptoms, known exposure at the time of symptom onset, detectable levels in biologic samples, and improvement with chelation -- have been met for autism. The phenotypic expression of mercury poisoning varies by a host of factors -- including type of mercury given, method of administration, rate and level of dose, individual genotype, and age of patient -- so that each variation in factors has created in the past a slightly different manifestation of the disease -- Mad Hatter's disease, Minamata disease, and acrodynia, for example. The pathology arising from the set of mercury-related variables involved in autism -- intermittent bolus doses of ethylmercury injected into genetically susceptible infants and toddlers -- has never been reported before in medical literature. Thus we argue that autism represents a unique form of mercury poisoning not heretofore described. Our findings have widespread implications for the affected population of autistic individuals, for other unexplained disorders with symptoms similar to heavy metal intoxication, and for childhood vaccination programs. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW Mass Murder; as part of wstern policy
Miss Albright has gone a long way from her question to Clinton about how it was all going down the drain. I guess if a journalist asks embarrasing enough questions, they too, can become parties to mass murder. (btw: after a discussion with someone onlist about Iraq I did some more research and have found it to be a lot different than media portrayals. Those poor people really did want us to help them escape their leaders. I will admit when shown that I am incorrect, but it seems that the associated press runs our lives and we fall for it hook line and sinker without even realizing it.) Children especially depend on us to protect them from the evils we adults have allowed to fester in this world. It breaks my heart how we seem to be able to do nothing to help them. Does voting even help? Not if the vote count theories are correct. Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J Taylor Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] FW Mass Murder; as part of wstern policy Terrorism is the response of the weak to the terrorism of the US collective oligarchy. On 29 Jan. 1999, Mrs. Albright met with Messrs. Berger and Cohen, and decided to offer the president of Yugoslavia an ultimatum. Give up sovereignty and accept NATO/American forces on your territory or be bombed. In an interview with U.S. Secretary of State (then Ambassador) Albright (May 12, 1996) on the TV program '60 Minutes,' for which Leslie Stahl was given a Columbia University School of Journalism award in 1997, Stahl said that U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization figures showed that half a million children died from starvation as a result of the American-led sanctions against Iraq. "I mean, that's more than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Ambassador Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price-we think the price is worth it." [Half million children then. How many by now?] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] L-Soft archive [was: KRIS, URGENT!! OBSCENE...
Kris Millegan wrote: I dunna know which archives you visit and how, but both the lsoft and the mail archive site collect, store and retrive attached files. That's odd; perhaps I'm a bumbling fool when it comes to computers (which is certainly likely), or maybe I'm extremely unlucky, but since Linda began the archive at L-Soft I've never been able to open a single attachment. I've tried on more occasions than I care to remember, and have used at least half a dozen different browsers over that time. For example, here's a random L-Soft page with an attachment: Fwd: Ayn Rand's Federal Reserve http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0004dL=ctrlF=S=P=16703 as usual, the attached file failed to open for me, even after using three different browsers, on two separate occasions: Opera 3.62 (which I usually use) had a pop-up stating: The type of file you just tried to open is unknown to Opera. Choose a program to show the file; save the file or cancel the transfer. Type: message/rfc822 Netscape Communicator 4.7 (which I use for e-mail) pretends to transfer the data and load the page, but the attachments never actually load. If I try to open it in a separate window, I get a blank page. Explorer 5.0 has a pop-up stating "Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site mhtml:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/... =messsage/rfc822 Could not complete the operation due to error 800c0011." This is typical of what happens. Any ideas what I might try? Or have any of you ever had similar problems opening attachments at L-Soft? == NOTE: Trying one last time before sending this message, I was able to open the attachment with the Opera browser (as it turns out, the solution was staring me in the face all along), but still no luck with Navigator or Explorer. Perhaps I'm just a 'lone nut' with his newbie head up his computer illiterate ass. Anyone else out there having trouble opening the above attachment with Netscape or Explorer? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
Now I understand! This quack who diagnoses people unseen, was appointed by the federal government i.e. your beloved jackboot thugs. I'm sure she was very impartial in her comments too. Wonder when she'll suddenly be made an ambassador or given some plush government position for her 'help' in this matter? p.s. Is Elian easily tired because of all of the drugs that are being pumped into him? Not a question - food for thought. Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP! Elian Doc: No Miami Vistors Yet By Michael J. Sniffen Associated Press Writer Wednesday, April 26, 2000; 12:42 p.m. EDT WASHINGTON A child psychiatrist who interviewed Elian Gonzalez for the government recommended that his Miami relatives reconcile their differences with his father before they are allowed to visit the 6-year-old Cuban boy, a Justice Department spokeswoman said today. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
In a message dated 04/26/2000 12:02:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Conspiracy Theory" or Christian Theocracy" Research List? I guess it's now bothyipee... My sentiments exactly Bill... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist -- Chapter 24 - Dan Barker Leave No Stone Unturned An Easter Challenge For ChristiansI HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking for proof. My straightforward request is merely that Christians tell me exactly what happened on the day that their most important doctrine was born. Believers should eagerly take up this challenge, since without the resurrection, there is no Christianity. Paul wrote, "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not." (I Corinthians 15:14-15) The conditions of the challenge are simple and reasonable. In each of the four Gospels, begin at Easter morning and read to the end of the book: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Also read Acts 1:3-12 and Paul's tiny version of the story in I Corinthians 15:3-8. These 165 verses can be read in a few moments. Then, without omitting a single detail from these separate accounts, write a simple, chronological narrative of the events between the resurrection and the ascension: what happened first, second, and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened. Since the gospels do not always give precise times of day, it is permissible to make educated guesses. The narrative does not have to pretend to present a perfect picture--it only needs to give at least one plausible account of all of the facts. Additional explanation of the narrative may be set apart in parentheses. The important condition to the challenge, however, is that not one single biblical detail be omitted. Fair enough? I have tried this challenge myself. I failed. An Assembly of God minister whom I was debating a couple of years ago on a Florida radio show loudly proclaimed over the air that he would send me the narrative in a few days. I am still waiting. After my debate at the University of Wisconsin, "Jesus of Nazareth: Messiah or Myth," a Lutheran graduate student told me he accepted the challenge and would be contacting me in about a week. I have never heard from him. Both of these people, and others, agreed that the request was reasonable and crucial. Maybe they are slow readers. Many bible stories are given only once or twice, and are therefore hard to confirm. The author of Matthew, for example, was the only one to mention that at the crucifixion dead people emerged from the graves of Jerusalem, walking around showing themselves to everyone--an amazing event that could hardly escape the notice of the other Gospel writers, or any other historians of the period. But though the silence of others might weaken the likelihood of a story, it does not disprove it. Disconfirmation comes with contradictions. Thomas Paine tackled this matter two hundred years ago in The Age of Reason, stumbling across dozens of New Testament discrepancies: "I lay it down as a position which cannot be controverted," he wrote, "first, that the agreement of all the parts of a story does not prove that story to be true, because the parts may agree and the whole may be false; secondly, that the disagreement of the parts of a story proves the whole cannot be true." Since Easter is told by five different writers, it gives one of the best chances to confirm or disconfirm the account. Christians should welcome the opportunity. One of the first problems I found is in Matthew 28:2, after two women arrived at the tomb: "And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." (Let's ignore the fact that no other writer mentioned this "great earthquake.") This story says that the stone was rolled away after the women arrived, in their presence. Yet Mark's Gospel says it happened before the women arrived: "And they said among themselves, Who shall roll away the stone from the door of the sepulchre? And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great." Luke writes: "And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre." John agrees. No earthquake, no rolling stone. It is a three-to-one vote: Matthew loses. (Or else the other three are wrong.) The event cannot have happened both before and after they arrived. Some bible defenders assert that Matthew 28:2 was intended to be understood in the past perfect, showing what had happened before the women arrived. But the entire passage is in the aorist (past) tense, and it reads, in context, like a simple chronological account. Matthew 28:2 begins, "And, behold," not "For, behold." If this verse can be so easily shuffled around, then what is to keep us from putting the flood before the ark, or the crucifixion before
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
I have been to Cuba. The people who are professedly proregimehave it fairly ok. Except for thick pollution in the cities with buses spewing forth jetblack exhaust, no new cars in sight (gotta be an operative),expensive food, papaya-based food, expensive clothes, poorly-made clothes, stores closed to natives not havingspecial cards but open to tourists, rationed electricity, scarcity of toilet paper, indoctrination everywhere, machinegun-totin' armies patrolling the streets and airports, catsized rats, dogsized cats, leapin' lizards and cockroaches, rundown buildings and child prostitution at the beaches. The others,the masses Castro supposedly has cared faboutfor the past 40 (forty) years, are poor. Meat is rationed to about half a pound per person per month. The others are also persecuted for unpopular political beliefs. The others are also persecuted for unpopular religious beliefs. The others are also persecuted for unpopular social beliefs. What have I missed? Oh, jail time for the unpopular. Nessie confuses theform of democratic governmentwith its popularity. Just because a democracy operates in a corrupt way does not mean it is not a democracy anymore. It's just a corrupt one. Nessie thinks some Americanssee America as a living hell and some Cubans think Cuba isvery nice.That's a clear bidto characterizeAmerica as a third world country. I don't appreciate that, America is great. And - news flash - those suffering in the American hell can leave, there is something called freedom and another thing called capitalism. - Original Message - From: nessie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP! [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Do you actually believe that Cuba is a nice place to live?I don't know. I've never been there. Have you? If not, you don't know whatyou're talking about. Neither do I, at least vis a vis life in Cuba. ButI'm willing to admit it. Are you?I figure we're both going on hearsay.Outside of hearsay, I don't know much about Cuba at all. I live here. Ilived her all my life. Living in only one country cannot help but havewarped my perception. But I'm 51 and I have been paying attention, so Ido know about America. For some people it's very nice indeed. For othersit's not so nice. For some it's living hell. My best guess is Cuba ispretty much the same.A country is a cage. A cage is a cage. It doesn't matter how big it is orhow good's the food. A cage is a cage is a cage. One is cage is as good asthe next. I like the one I live in better than the one I don't live inbecause I'm used to it here. I understand how it works. I know where it'sweak spots are and how to read between its lines. I get along pretty wellhere.But it's still a cage. We maynot have much of a democracy,This isn't a democracy. The real power is not held by elected officials oreven unelected bureaucrats. It's held by the boards of directors of thecorporations. They answer to their shareholders, not to the public atlarge. This structure is inherently undemocratic.but it's better than outrightin-your-face-with-a-gun fascism.So if it wasn't in-your-face-with-a-gun fascism that guy who says he's afisherman faced in that closet with Elian, what was it? You tell me.
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
PFT LOLOL!!! This stuff is too funny! And old news to boot too!!! Who by now doesn't KNOW that Eastre (Ishtar, Astarte), has NOTHING to do with true Christianity, but forms a part of that gigantic CULT of baptised paganism called the VATICAN- and its offshoots, and sycophants!!! But so much other of this crapulous nonsense is so punctuated with inaccuracy and bull crap that it is basically a bigger myth than anything it claims to [mis]portray about the Gospels! It think this forum carries somewhere the dictum "Caveat Lector" - the administer must surely be a prophet - for he foresaw this axioms fulfilment in this deluded authors trashy,muddled-minded attempt at personal myth-making. - Original Message - From: blue honey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Correct" - ing Easter Losing Faith In Faith: From Preacher To Atheist -- Chapter 24 - Dan Barker Leave No Stone Unturned An Easter Challenge For ChristiansI HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking for proof. My straightforward request is merely that Christians tell me exactly what happened on the day that their most important doctrine was born. Believers should eagerly take up this challenge, since without the resurrection, there is no Christianity. Paul wrote, "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not." (I Corinthians 15:14-15) The conditions of the challenge are simple and reasonable. In each of the four Gospels, begin at Easter morning and read to the end of the book: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Also read Acts 1:3-12 and Paul's tiny version of the story in I Corinthians 15:3-8. These 165 verses can be read in a few moments. Then, without omitting a single detail from these separate accounts, write a simple, chronological narrative of the events between the resurrection and the ascension: what happened first, second, and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened. Since the gospels do not always give precise times of day, it is permissible to make educated guesses. The narrative does not have to pretend to present a perfect picture--it only needs to give at least one plausible account of all of the facts. Additional explanation of the narrative may be set apart in parentheses. The important condition to the challenge, however, is that not one single biblical detail be omitted. Fair enough? I have tried this challenge myself. I failed. An Assembly of God minister whom I was debating a couple of years ago on a Florida radio show loudly proclaimed over the air that he would send me the narrative in a few days. I am still waiting. After my debate at the University of Wisconsin, "Jesus of Nazareth: Messiah or Myth," a Lutheran graduate student told me he accepted the challenge and would be contacting me in about a week. I have never heard from him. Both of these people, and others, agreed that the request was reasonable and crucial. Maybe they are slow readers. Many bible stories are given only once or twice, and are therefore hard to confirm. The author of Matthew, for example, was the only one to mention that at the crucifixion dead people emerged from the graves of Jerusalem, walking around showing themselves to everyone--an amazing event that could hardly escape the notice of the other Gospel writers, or any other historians of the period. But though the silence of others might weaken the likelihood of a story, it does not disprove it. Disconfirmation comes with contradictions. Thomas Paine tackled this matter two hundred years ago in The Age of Reason, stumbling across dozens of New Testament discrepancies: "I lay it down as a position which cannot be controverted," he wrote, "first, that the agreement of all the parts of a story does not prove that story to be true, because the parts may agree and the whole may be false; secondly, that the disagreement of the parts of a story proves the whole cannot be true." Since Easter is told by five different writers, it gives one of the best chances to confirm or disconfirm the account. Christians should welcome the opportunity. One of the first problems I found is in Matthew 28:2, after two women arrived at the tomb: "And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." (Let's ignore the fact that no other writer mentioned this "great earthquake.") This story says that the stone was rolled
[CTRL] Ashamed to be human
EARTH DAY PLUS THIRTY, AS SEEN BY THE EARTHby Donella MeadowsIf, in the thirty Earth Day celebrations we have held since 1970, the human population and economy have become any more respectful of the Earth, the Earth hasn't noticed.The planet is not impressed by fancy speeches. Leonardo DiCaprio interviewing Bill Clinton about global warming is not an Earth-shaking event. The Earth has no way of registering good intentions or future inventions or high hopes. It doesn't even pay attention to dollars, which are, from a planet's point of view, just a charming human invention. Planets measure only physical things-- energy and materials and their flows into and out of thechanging populations of living creatures.What the Earth sees is that on the first Earth Day in 1970 there were 3.7 billion of those hyperactive critters called humans, and now there are over 6 billion. Back in 1970 those humans drew from the Earth's crust 46 million barrels of oil every day -- now they draw 78 million.Natural gas extraction has nearly tripled in thirty years, from 34 trillion cubic feet per year to 95 trillion. We mined 2.2 billion metric tons in 1970; this year we'll mine about 3.8 billion. The planet feels this fossil fuel use in many ways, as the fuels are extracted (and spilled) and shipped (and spilled) and refined (generating toxics) and burned into numerous pollutants, including carbon dioxide, which traps outgoing energy and warms things up.Despite global conferences and brave promises, what the Earth notices is that human carbon emissions have increased from3.9 million metric tons in 1970 to an estimated 6.4 million this year.You would think that an unimaginably huge thing like a planet would not notice the one degree (Fahrenheit) warming it has experienced since1970. But on the scale of a whole planet, one degree is a big deal, especially since it is not spread evenly. The poles have warmed more thanthe equator, the winters more than the summers, the nights more than the days. That means that temperature DIFFERENCES from one place to another have been changing much more than the average temperature has changed. Temperature differences are what make winds blow, rains rain, ocean currents flow.All creatures, including humans, are exquisitely attuned to the weather. All creatures, including us, are noticing weather weirdness and trying to adjust, by moving, by fruiting earlier or migrating later, by building up whatever protections are possible against flood and drought. The Earth is reacting to weather changes too, shrinking glaciers, splitting off nation-sized chunks of Antarctic ice sheet, enhancing the cycles we call El Nino and La Nina."Earth Day, Shmearth Day," the planet must be thinking as its fever mounts. "Are you folks ever going to take me seriously?"Since the first Earth Day our global vehicle population has swelled from 246 to 730 million. Air traffic has gone up by a factor of six. Therate at which we grind up trees to make paper has doubled (to 200 millionmetric tons per year).We coax from the soil, with the help of strange chemicals, 2.25 times as much wheat, 2.5 times as much corn, 2.2 times as much rice, almost twice as much sugar, almost four times as many soybeans as we did thirty years ago.We pull from the oceans almost twice as much fish. With the fish we can see clearly how the planet behaves, when we pushit too far. It does not feel sorry for us; it just follows its own rules. Fish become harder and harder to find. If they are caught before they're old enough to reproduce, if their nursery habitat is destroyed, if we scoop up not only the cod, but the capelin upon which the cod feeds, the fish may never come back.The Earth does not care that we didn't mean it, that we promise not to do it again, that we make nice gestures every Earth Day.We have among us die-hard optimists who will berate me for not reporting the good news since the last Earth Day. There is plenty of it, but it is mostly measured in human terms, not Earth terms.Average human life expectancy has risen since 1970 from 58 to 66 years.Gross world product has more than doubled, from 16 to 39 trillion dollars.Recycling has increased, but so has trash generation, so the Earth receives more garbage than ever before.Wind and solar power generation have soared, but so have coal-fired, gas-fired and nuclear generation.In human terms there has been breathtaking progress. In 1970 there weren't any cell phones or video players. There was no Internet; there were no dot-coms.Nor was anyone infected with AIDS, of course, nor did we have to worry about genetic engineering.Global spending on advertising was only one-third of what it is now (in inflation-corrected dollars). Third-World debt was one-eighth of what it is now.Whether you call any of that progress, it is all beneath the notice of the Earth.What the Earth sees is that its species are vanishing at a rate it hasn't seen
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
In a message dated 4/26/2000 8:12:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if the stories are true You've said it all. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
In a message dated 4/26/2000 10:23:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't more German's climb the Berlin Wall? It doesn't appear to be an easy task. Do you actually believe that Cuba is a nice place to live? We may not have much of a democracy, but it's better than outright in-your-face-with-a-gun fascism. It's almost like a Janet Reno clone runs things there, only even more evil! That should scare anyone. Tara But let's take a look at the product of Cuba, and I'm not talking about sugar or cigars. Castro or not, they seem to be raising some pretty good kids. Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty situations, and he is still pretty much what most of us would like our children to be (except for that jumping on the furniture thing). He is not fat, snotty, depressed or fixated. Somebody in Cuba is doing things right. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Best Spies
Please note the comment on Israeli spies being able to get help from Jews everywhere. Think that might apply to Mr. Deutch? Prudy Wednesday, April 26, 2000 `Russian, British, Israeli spies best' http://www.timesofindia.com/today/27worl18.htm MOSCOW: A high-ranking Russian security official praised British and Israeli spies on Wednesday, saying they ranked with Russian agents as the best in the world. Sergei Ivanov, head of the Security Council which advises President-elect Vladimir Putin, also said spies from the United States had too much money and were spoilt. "Ours, British and Israeli," Ivanov, a former worker for the KGB Soviet security police, told the Argumenti i Fakti weekly newspaper when asked which country had the best agents. "British counter-intelligence has an excellent school and traditions, they prepare their agents very well," he said. He said Israeli agents could get help from Jews the world over, who would not hand the agent over if approached. "The Americans have too much money. This leads to an impression that everything in the world can be bought and you don't have to use your head," he said. Spying disputes between the West and Russia are still fairly common although the heyday of the Cold War is long past. Russia recently arrested a U.S. citizen and a Russian on charges of trying to gain secret information on an underwater sea missile. The Russian FSB counter-intelligence agency also recently announced it had arrested a Russian on charges of working as a spy for Britain. (Reuters) *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to SPYNEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Mario Profaca, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis and Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
I would give that credit to his mom. It doesn't take a village to raise a child. It takes a mom. Or a LOVING father. I would die for my children, and they know it. They're good kids, and I think it's because they know how much they are loved. Maybe the Cuban dissidents are good mom's. I think that they have suffered and try to make their children not afraid, and to protect them. And I think Marisleysis deserves a big round of applause, despite the terrible things that are being said about her. She took a child who had just watched his mom die, and then floated in shark-infested waters for, if I remember correctly, 3 days, and made him feel safe all over again. That is quite an accomplishment and quite a daunting task. I've been in a situation with one of my children suffering a tragic event in their life, and it is something that only love can heal, a child having been through such a terrible experience. And to Bill who wrote: "Conspiracy Theory" or Christian Theocracy" Research List? I guess it's now bothyipee... I'm glad you're pleased at the opportunity to hear the viewpoints of Christians. I misjudged you. I didn't know you were quite so open to opposing opinions. I apologise. Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prudence L. Kuhn Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP! In a message dated 4/26/2000 10:23:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But let's take a look at the product of Cuba, and I'm not talking about sugar or cigars. Castro or not, they seem to be raising some pretty good kids. Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty situations, and he is still pretty much what most of us would like our children to be (except for that jumping on the furniture thing). He is not fat, snotty, depressed or fixated. Somebody in Cuba is doing things right. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The FBI in Peace and War Duh Duh Duh
Thursday, April 27, 2000 FBI settles privacy lawsuit by paying $6 million http ://w ww.postnet.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/6C540D1BC312F9EA862568CE00084CDD By Philip Dine Post-Dispatch Washington Bureau WASHINGTON - The Justice Department has agreed to pay $6 million to a former McDonnell Douglas consultant who says his privacy was invaded and his reputation damaged by the FBI. The settlement, reached Wednesday, is believed to be the largest ever given by the government for violation of the Privacy Act. The matter was set to go to trial early next week. The former consultant, Thomas C. Stewart, who is based in Portland, Ore., had accused the FBI of circulating false information about him in 1996 as he tried to help the St. Louis-based defense contractor sell fighter jets in Eastern Europe. That material, including suggestions that Stewart had tried to bribe a Czech defense official, made its way to the Czech press. This led to such headlines as: "Beware of the Man From Douglas" and "McDonnell Douglas Bid Clouded by FBI Allegations." As a result, McDonnell let Stewart go in April 1997. That fall, Stewart sued the FBI. His attorney, Carol Emory, on Wednesday called the settlement "a long overdue vindication." But Stewart and his attorneys said that the government's conduct, and its refusal even now to admit a mistake and take corrective action, point to a need to make the FBI more accountable. "When this began, all I wanted was for the FBI to clear my name," Stewart said. "They had made a mistake, and at that time had the power to easily admit and correct that mistake. The fact that it took almost four years of litigation and the intervention of a federal judge to bring the case to closure speaks strongly for the need for substantial reform in monitoring FBI misconduct." The Justice Department, which oversees the FBI, said Wednesday that it was admitting no wrongdoing and had agreed to settle as a way of "resolving without further litigation" the complaint by Stewart. "We maintain that we did not violate the Privacy Act," Justice Department spokesman Charles Wilson said. At the time the events took place, Stewart was trying to help McDonnell sell 30 St. Louis-built F/A-18 fighter jets - worth about $1 billion - to the Czech Republic. McDonnell was subsequently bought by Boeing, which continues to make the F/A-18s, or Hornets, in St. Louis. Stewart was decorated for missions flown as a Navy Reserve commander during the Persian Gulf War. He was using his contacts to try to help McDonnell get the contract amid competition from French, Swedish, British and other U.S. companies. But there had been a falling out between Stewart and a business associate. The partner told the FBI that Stewart had misrepresented himself as a U.S. official in the Czech Republic and had sought to pay off a Czech defense figure, Otakar Vychodil. Stewart said his problems began after the FBI's Portland office sent an eight-page unsigned document to Czech officials in the summer of 1996, purportedly to see whether any of the country's laws had been violated. A copy also went to the U.S. Embassy in Prague. The document painted a colorful picture of Stewart as a braggart and as someone willing to endanger others for his own purposes. It made its way to the Czech press, resulting in highly negative publicity about McDonnell Douglas and about Stewart. The allegations were unrelated to Stewart's work for McDonnell, but they led the company to decide not to renew his contract in April 1997, a year after he'd been hired. Stewart contended that the FBI acted irresponsibility in never interviewing him or verifying the allegations, which he and Vychodil strenuously denied. The Post-Dispatch reported in 1997 that Air Force officers at the embassy were secretly trying to pressure the Czechs into choosing a competing plane built by Lockheed Martin. That plane, the F-16, is a U.S. Air Force plane, while the Hornet is used by the Navy, and additional overseas sales of the F-16 would have lowered Air Force costs. Following the Post-Dispatch reports, Defense Secretary William Cohen issued a worldwide directive that U.S. representatives abroad observe strict neutrality in commercial transactions where two or more American companies were competing for a contract. The Czechs have yet to award a contract for the fighter jets. Stewart's trial attorney, Christopher Kent, said the settlement efforts got a boost when federal judge in Oregon found last year that the FBI had violated the Privacy Act in releasing the report about Stewart, who is an investment banker outside Portland. The trial next week would have been to assess how much he had been damaged by those actions. Kent said he was told by government officials that the $6 million is the largest settlement ever agreed to for violation of the Privacy Act. Wilson, the Justice Department spokesman, said the agency knew of none bigger. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
In a message dated 4/27/2000 5:50:04 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a clear bid to characterize America as a third world country. I have been worried about that, especially when I learned that the Japanese were buying our trees (the ones we are fighting so hard to keep), loading them aboard factory ships, and milling them on the way to Japan; that whomever wants our ores just takes them away; that our mountains are being leveled to make it easier to get to those ores; that the Canadians have to be bribed not to mine at the Yellowstone border. Exploitation of natural resources in which the "natives" just make it available--sounds like third-world-country status might be hovering over us, don't you think? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
In a message dated 4/27/00 9:54:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that the Canadians have to be bribed not to mine at the Yellowstone border. Oh, we lost Montana already? I must have missed it on the news A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brit radio licenses sold for $33 Billion!
the BBC is reporting: The £22.47bn windfall is equivalent to £400 per person in the UK. Now this includes every living person, rich or poor, young or old. About $600 each in dollars. Now, how much money can these guys make, when there are existing competitors? Am I missing something here? add to this cost, the costs of constructing the systems, and the cost of customer acquisition. Rates for PCS service are down to 5 cents a minute in some US markets. How much can they make off us? Can the carriers ever repay the debt? Or do we have another world-wide Savings and Loan scandal/debacle? If so, the governments bail out (our $) will be needed to prevent a meltdown. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis and Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
In a message dated 4/27/2000 7:40:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And I think Marisleysis deserves a big round of applause, despite the terrible things that are being said about her. She took a child who had just watched his mom die, and then floated in shark-infested waters for, if I remember correctly, 3 days, and made him feel safe all over again. That is quite an accomplishment and quite a daunting task. I've been in a situation with one of my children suffering a tragic event in their life, and it is something that only love can heal, a child having been through such a terrible experience. I don't know. The child was showered with constant presents, and I don't know how some of the presents fared. The puppy and the bunny disappeared. Young animals that are overhandled die quickly. We (if we are normal) would all die for our children. That does not mean we should be idiotic about their behavior. A child who is properly reared and loved can recover quickly from difficult situations. That child does not have to be constantly showered with gifts. The Miami family did not nurture in a way that I would like for my own children. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis and Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
The Miami "family" will really hit the roof when their INS "visit" is followed by an IRS "visit". According to an account I read, they've received about $200,000 in cash doantions, gifts, and free services. Meaning taxes due of about $60,000. Wanna bet they never pay? If that were me, the IRS would have me in jail. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
SkeptiNews 000427a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/26_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No lunar workers were sexually abused during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Kablooie! http://www.earthfiles.com/img/AprilChandraX-ray.jpg _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Killers hired psychic to cleanse homes after murder. ST. CATHARINES, Ont. (CP) - Convicted killers Paul Bernardo and his former wife Karla Homolka enlisted a psychic to cleanse their home of evil spirits after they heard loud banging noises and voices calling out to them in the night.The couple believed the sounds came from the basement of their home, where they dis- membered the body of one of their schoolgirl victims. Demons, begone! http://news.excite.ca/news/ap/000427/03/homolka-psychic,1stwritethru # Ingo Swann Sees Naked Men On The Moon. Naked male workers working under bright lights on the moon, tall buildings, exotic machinery, and strange vehicles leaving tracks in the lunar dust - all this and much more was seen by Ingo Swann, the man most responsible for the phenomenon known as remote viewing. http://www.alienzoo.com/features/m/24270001.cfm : Have you seen/heard/felt/smelt/tasted/intuited any spirits/nudes/aliens/me lately? Have you cleansed your mind/premises/universe of the phenomena? Have you told anyone of what you sensed? Do you sense such a presence right now? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Heyerdahl to Explore Sicily 'Pyramid.' OSLO (Reuters) Explorer Thor Heyer- dahl plans to study a giant pyramid-shaped structure in Sicily that he sez may be thousands of years old, built for sun worship. "Incredibly exciting structure" http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2425/sc/life_heyerdahl_1.html # Archaeologists should resist new excavations at Pompeii - blasphemous: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timopnedt01001.html?1996766 # Time Traveller Dies in Ireland. The mystery woman was rushed to St. Mary's hospital where x-rays revealed an amazing assortment of computer chips and switches attached to her brain.The next day, the mystery woman died of her injuries.An autopsy revealed that many of the chips had Chinese characters on them and were of unknown origin. http://www.jpb.com/cyberstar/0112.html : Have you uncovered/explored/engineered/exploited (m)any ancient mysteries lately? Do the mysteries indicate contamination from past/present/future/ET cultures? Are the voices in your head caused by memes/demons/chips/aliens? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Toxic Tap Water. BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) The Argentine city of Bahia Blanca has warned its 420,000 residents to avoid using tap water because it says it is laced with toxic bacteria that cause skin irritation and possibly neurological damage. http://news.excite.com/news/r/000426/07/odd-water # Infectious diseases get stronger - "they're winning" http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566043578-a6e # TB OUTBREAK REPORTED IN TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY - Baltimore, NYC: http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=32182src=n47 # Australia faces plague of locusts- disaster on Biblical scale- punishment? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_727000/727673.stm :Have you been plagued by a bacterium/virus/locust/idea lately? What's your favorite plague? Are plagues caused by nature, humans, aliens, deities, all the above? Have you designed/constructed/promoted any plagues lately? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Syria: Nuclear powers aid Israel - Western-Jewish plot vs Arabs: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566031280-193 # Putin seen deploying nuke sub to counter U.S. in Gulf. Boom. http://www.worldtribune.com/Archive-2000/eu-russia-04-26.html # Missile shield could cost $60 bln - and it won't work. Bother. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566024245-b03 # Weather supercomputer unveiled - costs less than a major movie: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566025438-d92 # Breeding MiAs- What really happened to America's missing soldiers. Missing in Action (MiA) American soldiers from the Vietnam war are alive and well and taking part in a breeding for intelligence project operated by an Ame- rican intelligence organization. http://www.jpb.com/cyberstar/0106.html : What's your favorite military conspiracy? Is it expensive/effective/annoy- ing? D'ya promote paranoia to justify public funding of your conspiracy, or are your corporate/church/kleptocrat sponsors happy to keep you occupied?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Red Hat Open To Backdoor Penetration: http://www.msnbc.com/news/399125.asp # Poking Holes In Linux. A hole found in Red Hat Linux has raised fears over the
[CTRL] [NA] Easter Sunday Fall Out Elian; Gathering Storm
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NA] Easter Sunday Fall Out Elian; Gathering Storm Date: Sunday, April 23, 2000 9:21 AM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 23, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Easter Sunday Fall Out Elian; Gathering Storm This list deals with organizing America through networking, the nature of the Ruling Elite behind the emerging New World Order Government, votefraud vs. honest elections, and coordinated manipulation of the collective American mind by Big Media and Big Government. Todays report bears on the nature of the Ruling Elite, and what they are attempting to do to the American mind during the Elian affair. After Janet Reno, who does such a spiffy job of dressing like Alice the Goon of Popeye fame, acted the point man for the New World Order Governments snatching of Elian Gonzales, here are some points that Americans should ponder. (Incidentally, Im not Renos physical characteristics, which she cannot help anymore than the rest of it can; many women have the same basic features WITHOUT giving off the robotic, dead-eyed, soulless, evil, menacing aura of Alice the Goon; someone like Reno only sinks to that depth through years and years of deliberating choosing to walk down the path of evil. The Elian seizing was just the latest building block in Renos public career, which has become a monument to evil.) Reno, Clinton, and so many others in public life call to mind the Biblical injunction: Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good. Item: Kate OBeirne, of National Review, on Capitol Gang: This boy has been returned to Castros custody. So right on but next Kate and Bob Novak fell into the trap for the 2 millionth time, -- of giving unreserved credence to the Big TV network polls which claim that 59% of Americans APPROVE of the way Janet Reno sent the armed thugs to seize Elian. Again, WHY accept these polls which ALWAYS support EXACTLY what the New World Order Government wants at every key moment. I want proof. How are these public opinion polls done? What questions are asked? What facts or facts are given the people polled? What preliminary questions are asked before the poll the is taken and are some people disqualified from the poll if they answer those preliminary questions wrong? How many people are polled in total? Is only a cross section of those polled selected for inclusion? Is the poll just done for cover, with the results ultimately fabricated to get the sought after favored result? Remember, only the well-connected poll company OWNERS, like Zogby, Harris, and Gallup, ever see the complete results; those doing the calling have no way of knowing what the aggregate results indicated. (Needles to say, these questions apply to any issue, any day of the week.) Item: One of the Congressman from the Miami area revealed on Evans and Novak that Castro is running BOTH the photo of the INS Thug pointing the gun at Elian and Donato (the fisherman rescuer), and the film of the New World Order Storm Troopers rushing a screaming Elian out to the government car on Cuban TV almost constantly. The Congressman made the point that OBVIOUSLY this was a tremendous propaganda piece for Castro to demoralize the freedom fighters in his gulags, and show the oppressed people of Cuba HOW MUCH the US Government backs him up. Exactly. Item: Lets talk about the dynamics of the newsmedia in the USA. As you know, the Big TV networks are the number one target of this e-wire, because of their collaboration on the major story for each day, and the angle from which they all cover the major story of each day. Yet, today, we are beholden to these same Big TV Networks for making the AP photo of the INS automatic weapon raid against Elian and the Gonzales family known and notorious throughout the world. How explain this seeming contradiction. The local on the spot cameramen and reporters are overwhelmingly trying to get the news. So things that break spontaneously are immediately rushed onto the air. If things break so spontaneously that the Network Owners or their agents cant decide whether or not to censor it, it gets out. Certainly, Im not suggesting that there is even time for the heads of the five networks to confer by phone, or through intermediaries, regarding whether to release such items as the photo of the gun in Elians face, or the home video of Elian saying he didnt want to go back to Cuba, which was released on
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: My sentiments exactly Bill... We're being colonized. Anybody who has read history knows what happens when Christians colonize your land. Pretty soon it's not your land any more and you are dead or a slave. "Peace, love and brotherhood," my ass. A more avaricious people have never stalked the earth. Hitler was a piker next to these guys. Attila was a flash in the pan. Let Christians on your land and you'll end up on reservations selling beads to the tourists for a living while slaves chop cotton on what used to be your yard. And the supreme irony is that they commit their depredations in the name of a man who was arrested and executed for a piece of street theater that opposd the economic corruption of imperialist Roman puppets. "Love thy neighbor," he said. His followers held all things in common. (Acts: 2:44) The first Christian martyr ran a soup kitchen for the poor. Yet today the poor of the world are not given succor, but sweatshops. Christianity was adroitly turned by Constantine from the religion of slaves into the religion of masters, the belief system that gave the world the Crusades, the Inquisition, the genocide of the New World and the enslavement of west Africa. If Jesus was alive today he would puke. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Internet censorship threatens free press -report
From NewsHawk: WIRE:04/26/2000 18:14:00 ET Internet censorship threatens free press -report NEW YORK (Reuters) - Censorship of the Internet by governments is spreading and may become a threat to traditional media liberty, a report on press freedom said on Wednesday. "The explosion of news and information on the World Wide Web is tempting governments, developed and developing, politically free and not free, to consider restricting content on the Internet," said the report conducted by human rights group Freedom House. The group's 22nd annual survey of press freedom, entitled "Censor Dot Gov: The Internet and Press Freedom 2000," said governments may use several methods to restrict information on the Internet, including: - Devising Internet-explicit licensing and regulation; - Applying existing restrictive print and broadcast laws to the Web; - Filtering Internet content through control of the servers or using government servers to censor incoming news and information; - Censoring electronic content deemed unacceptable after dissemination. "The independence of the Internet becomes the newest test of a government's will to encourage and sustain a free press," said survey coordinator Leonard Sussman in an essay accompanying the 36-page report. The report said some countries restrict Internet access "on the pretext of protecting the public from subversive ideas or violation of national security." In some parts of Asia, for example, the stated goal of protecting traditional "Asian values" is being used as the pretext to control Internet information and access. In the Middle East Internet censorship is being promoted under the banner of protecting morality, the report said. "Not only countries with records of not free or partly free news media contemplate controlling the Internet. In 1996, the Clinton administration tried to block pornography on the Internet with the Communications Decency Act, but the law was shot down by the Supreme Court," the report said. Citing a report by Reporters Sans Frontieres, it listed Azerbaijan, Belarus, Burma, China, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam as countries that totally or mostly control Internet access. The annual survey, released ahead of World Press Freedom Day on May 3, said 63 percent of the world's countries restrict print and electronic journalists and 80 percent of the world's people live in countries with a less than free press. Globally, only 69 countries have a free press, where the flow of information is unrestricted, 51 have a partly free news media and 66 countries have government control over print and broadcast systems. _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Forum for ecology, politics consciousness. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ USA http://www.geocities.com/ecologynews/ USA http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russia; Directory of Public Internet Resources
From EcoNews, St Petersburg, Russia - ENWL.ru: Subject: NGO.RU Announcement The Strategy Foundation is happy to announce the new Directory of Public Internet Resources NGO.RU (http://www.ngo.ru/). The public sector in Russia had increased greatly the number of its Internet sites. So, it was necessary to create an easy and convenient navigation tool, the tool for advertising and promoting the Internet resources. Such a tool can integrate efforts, aimed at creating the positive image of the non-profit sector in the society. The directory was created as a response to this necessity. The directory is collecting links to all kinds of Russian public Internet resources: sites of nonprofit organizations and public associations, resource and support centers, grantmaking foundations, media and informational agencies, conferences, public actions and campaigns, databases, electronic libraries, mail lists, content projects, distant learning systems. The links have brief annotations. The directory is open and everybody can suggest a resource to be included in it. You are welcome to see that it is true. *--* CivilSoc is an electronic information service provided free of charge to 1,600 subscribers worldwide by Center for Civil Society International in association with Friends Partners. For more information about civic initiatives in Eurasia, visit our Web site: www.friends-partners.org/ccsi/ Those without Web access can use ordinary e-mail to join CivilSoc. Type "subscribe" (without the quote marks!) either in the Subject line or the Message area and send the message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CivilSoc archives are at: www.friends-partners.org/~ccsi/archives.htm _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Forum for ecology, politics consciousness. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ USA http://www.geocities.com/ecologynews/ USA http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
SkeptiNews 000427b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/26_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No tarlike macro-molecules were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ASK THE POPE: http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=616051338 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO Buffs Dis Area 51 Pix. (SPACE.COM) In all the hoopla over the new Area 51 satellite images available on the Internet, those responsible for focusing the public's attention on the mystery base in the first place -- the UFO community -- have been largely ignored. Missing data or ho-hum? http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/area51_ufologists_000426.html # UFO researcher finds anomalies in Area 51 photos - just more government disinformation? http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal042601.html # Malin Space Systems Blasted For Withholding Mars Cydonia Photos - hiding Face on Mars details: http://www.sightings.com/general/mrs.htm # VIKING MARS LANDER PHOTO COLOR-ALTERING REVEALED - MIT Physicist Reveals Original Images Showed Blue Sky and Rocks With Greenish Patches. Sinister coverup of alien bases: http://www.sightings.com/general/color.htm : Have you manipulated/exploited/ignored any sensitive information lately? Is all public information a lie?Do sophisticated humans disregard everything we're told/shown/taught? Is anything NOT mindcontrol? How can you tell? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Group seeks objective UFO probe. Citing a "gulf" between conspiracy theor- ists scientific UFO investigators, a UK group has formed a new organiza- tion to promote objective study of UFO extraterrestrial (ET) phenomenon. "Code of practice" -- http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal042501.html # 1ST DETAILED IMAGES OF EARLY UNIVERSE - detailed snapshot reveals an underlying cosmic geometry structures that predate the oldest stars and galaxies. http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/04/26/earlyuniverse.ap/ @ http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~boomerang/press_images/cmbfacts/cmbfacts.html : How much funding d'ya need for y'r probes of alleged reality? What aspects of alleged reality have you probed so far? What are the results? Do plotters impede your probes, divert your funding, ridicule your efforts, cut you off? # ONR Looks To Human Visual System To Improve SatPix. An advanced neural net scheme to increase levels of detail captured in Landsat satellite images has been developed. Reveals the composition of info contained in a single pixel: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000427072619.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Tarlike Macro-Molecules Detected In "Stardust'" The first in-situ chemical analysis of interstellar dust particles produces a puzzling result: These cosmic particles consist mostly of 3-dimensionally cross-linked organic macro-molecules, so-called polymeric-heterocyclic-aromates. Life in the vacuum? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000427072933.htm @ Structure and Evolution of the Universe: http://universe.gsfc.nasa.gov/ # Astronomy as an Art Form - the universe is stunningly beautiful, eh? http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/CloserLook/wnt000424_hubble_feature.html # Lightning May be Key to Predicting Tornadoes. Climatologists think they're onto something. Not blowhards: http://www.cosmiverse.com/space042603.html @ http://apamac.ch.adfa.oz.au/OzChemNet/ChemDept/molecules/bucky/bucky.html : Have you found any living/self-organizing/energetic/evolving structures in the universe lately? Are they all around us? Do they bite? Are all dynamic structures parasitic/beautiful/deadly? Are you? What/who do you feed on?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Workshop, Worship Celebrate Goddesses.(U-WIRE) UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. Twelve women sat in a darkened circle, chanting of their womanly strength, power and sexuality in a goddess-worship ritual influenced by Pagan and Wiccan beliefs. Exciting study of goddess-based spirituality - "everyone was really involved." http://news.excite.com/news/uw/000427/university-24 # Brazil church apology said lacking - Indians reluctant to forgive: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566028467-8f8 # Iran leader endorses media crackdown - anti-Islamic deviants: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566028981-0b8 # Maryland Slaves Turned to African Spirits to Survive Servitude: http://www.discoveringarchaeology.com/webex/webex032300-crystals.shtml # Tammy Faye Makes Up With Past. More faces than Jekyll Hyde. And longer eyelashes. http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/fyi.pat,fyi/37746bb0.426,.html : Have you explored your spirituality/sexuality/hyperreality lately? Do you regularly probe yourself or others? D'ya apologize for probing others? D'ya
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
What an egregious bigot. On 27 Apr 00, at 9:47, nessie wrote: Anybody who has read history knows what happens when Christians colonize your land. Pretty soon it's not your land any more and you are dead or a slave. "Peace, love and brotherhood," my ass. A more avaricious people have never stalked the earth. -- Kathleen "Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority." -- Thomas Henry Huxley A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [NA] April 23, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NA] April 23, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Date: Sunday, April 23, 2000 1:08 AM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 23, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire Easter Sunday Fall Out Elian; Gathering Storm This list deals with organizing America through networking, the nature of the Ruling Elite behind the emerging New World Order Government, votefraud vs. honest elections, and coordinated manipulation of the collective American mind by Big Media and Big Government. Todays report bears on the nature of the Ruling Elite, and what they are attempting to do to the American mind during the Elian affair. After Janet Reno, who does such a spiffy job of dressing like Alice the Goon of Popeye fame, acted the point man for the New World Order Governments snatching of Elian Gonzales, here are some points that Americans should ponder. (Incidentally, Im not Renos physical characteristics, which she cannot help anymore than the rest of it can; many women have the same basic features WITHOUT giving off the robotic, dead-eyed, soulless, evil, menacing aura of Alice the Goon; someone like Reno only sinks to that depth through years and years of deliberating choosing to walk down the path of evil. The Elian seizing was just the latest building block in Renos public career, which has become a monument to evil.) Reno, Clinton, and so many others in public life call to mind the Biblical injunction: Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good. Item: Kate OBeirne, of National Review, on Capitol Gang: This boy has been returned to Castros custody. So right on but next Kate and Bob Novak fell into the trap for the 2 millionth time, -- of giving unreserved credence to the Big TV network polls which claim that 59% of Americans APPROVE of the way Janet Reno sent the armed thugs to seize Elian. Again, WHY accept these polls which ALWAYS support EXACTLY what the New World Order Government wants at every key moment. I want proof. How are these public opinion polls done? What questions are asked? What facts or facts are given the people polled? What preliminary questions are asked before the poll the is taken and are some people disqualified from the poll if they answer those preliminary questions wrong? How many people are polled in total? Is only a cross section of those polled selected for inclusion? Is the poll just done for cover, with the results ultimately fabricated to get the sought after favored result? Remember, only the well-connected poll company OWNERS, like Zogby, Harris, and Gallup, ever see the complete results; those doing the calling have no way of knowing what the aggregate results indicated. (Needles to say, these questions apply to any issue, any day of the week.) Item: One of the Congressman from the Miami area revealed on Evans and Novak that Castro is running BOTH the photo of the INS Thug pointing the gun at Elian and Donato (the fisherman rescuer), and the film of the New World Order Storm Troopers rushing a screaming Elian out to the government car on Cuban TV almost constantly. The Congressman made the point that OBVIOUSLY this was a tremendous propaganda piece for Castro to demoralize the freedom fighters in his gulags, and show the oppressed people of Cuba HOW MUCH the US Government backs him up. Exactly. Item: Lets talk about the dynamics of the newsmedia in the USA. As you know, the Big TV networks are the number one target of this e-wire, because of their collaboration on the major story for each day, and the angle from which they all cover the major story of each day. Yet, today, we are beholden to these same Big TV Networks for making the AP photo of the INS automatic weapon raid against Elian and the Gonzales family known and notorious throughout the world. How explain this seeming contradiction. The local on the spot cameramen and reporters are overwhelmingly trying to get the news. So things that break spontaneously are immediately rushed onto the air. If things break so spontaneously that the Network Owners or their agents cant decide whether or not to censor it, it gets out. Certainly, Im not suggesting that there is even time for the heads of the five networks to confer by phone, or through intermediaries, regarding whether to release such items as the photo of the gun in Elians face, or the home video of Elian saying he didnt want to go back to Cuba, which was released on Spanish TV
[CTRL] Fw: Dumbed down lost generation #1
NEW YORK TIMES April 27, 2000 FUZZY ANSWERS / A SPECIAL REPORT The New, Flexible Math Meets Parental Rebellion By ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS Three years ago, one of New York City's most adventurous school districts set out to tackle a nagging problem: the math phobia that afflicts many students, and the disparity between the test scores of white middle-class students and their poorer black and Hispanic counterparts. The district, which stretches from the Upper East Side to Chinatown, embraced a new "constructivist" curriculum without textbooks. This approach preaches that it is more important for children to construct their own solutions to mathematical problems than to learn the standard rules -- from multiplication tables to the value of pi -- handed down through the centuries. Long ranked near the top of the city in mathematics, the district has held its place, although there is still a disparity in test scores between the poorest schools and the more affluent ones. But the new curriculum has enraged many parents who find that their children cannot multiply easily or understand basic algebra. One parent, Anna Huang, said her son, Mack, a fourth grader, "felt a lack of clarity" when his teacher insisted that he estimate answers, rather than compute them precisely. Another parent, Anne Cattaneo Santore, said she was troubled because her son, William, a second grader at P.S. 124 in Chinatown, spent months counting with coins and solving equations using "friendly numbers," for instance, converting 71 + 19 into the easier 70 + 20. "Those strategies don't work when you get to larger numbers," Ms. Santore said, "and they have been doing those strategies all year." Ms. Huang and Ms. Santore have joined other parents, mathematicians and many teachers in a rebellion that has shaken education from New York City to Plano, Tex., and Lincoln, Mass. As school districts from affluent enclaves in Greenwich Village to poor minority neighborhoods like East New York have embraced constructivist math, parents have formed e-mail networks and turned out in force at school meetings to protest what they say is "fuzzy math" and the systematic "dumbing down" of mathematics teaching. "Parents are worried," said Elizabeth Carson, an actress, the mother of a seventh grader and a leader of the protest movement in New York City. "They're scared that their kids are not going to be competitive. The math is not in their bones.' The new math has at its core a passionate belief shared by tens of thousands of teachers around the country that they can reach more children, especially low-achieving minority students, by dropping standard rules in favor of exercises that allow students to discover the principles of math on their own. Constructivist programs are being tried in more than half of New York City's 1,145 schools, Board of Education officials said. Educators who support the new math say that old-fashioned teaching through memorization and rules produced generations of people who hated math and never deeply understood it. Indeed, the manifesto of constructivist mathematicians, the 1989 standards of the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics, urges teachers not to demand too much accuracy too early. Math should be "flexible," the standards say, and "reasonable" answers should be valued over a single right answer. The constructivist movement has led to the widespread rejection of textbooks, in favor of exercises using blocks, beans and other materials. One popular program, MathLand, suggests that students count a million grains of birdseed to get a feeling for the size of a million. Another, Everyday Mathematics, teaches children an ancient Egyptian method of multiplication. It also suggests that fourth graders measure angles with bent straws instead of protractors. Connected Mathematics, a popular middle-school program used widely in New York, teaches sixth graders to add fractions by folding paper strips into segments representing halves or fourths or thirds, instead of by converting to common denominators. Lucy West, the director of mathematics at Manhattan's District 2, where the new math has been most aggressively adopted, said that old-fashioned math had been oversold. "There is a misconception that in the good old days everybody could add and subtract, multiply and divide really easily and efficiently," she said. But professional mathematicians say the activists have set up a false dichotomy between conceptual understanding and basic skills. Parents chafing at constructivist math tell stories of their children coming home confused and dispirited by lessons in which getting the right answer to problems is devalued in favor of strategies that are often primitive, cumbersome and indirect. Used by inexperienced teachers who are weak in math, they say, the curriculum can be murky. And tutoring services say that they are seeing an epidemic of children coming to them for basic math instruction. THE MOVEMENT Good
[CTRL] Fw: Dumbed down lost generation #2
From a denizen of Silicon Valley:
I think the "New, Flexible Math" is misunderstood. It's not an
answer to how to give "disadvantaged" students a "deep understanding"
of mathematics. A very small fraction of our total student
population will ever have such no matter what we do. Rather, this
new movement is advocating a math curriculum that can be "taught" by
a teacher with no math skills his/herself without the embarrassment
of exposure.
The New Economy is causing the "IQ Premium" to soar. Whenever I meet
a teacher with more than 1300 SAT points, I drag him/her off to one
of my startups. Meanwhile, I scratch my head trying to figure out
how my now-14-month-old son is going to get an education with all my
peers in high tech also working to denude America's schools of anyone
with an IQ in the triple digits.
EXCERPTS FROM VARIOUS CALIFORNIA STATE ASSESSMENT EXAMS OVER THE YEARS:
In 1960 ("archaic education"): A logger sells a truckload of lumber
for $100. His cost of production is four fifths the price. What is
his profit?
In 1970 ("traditional math"): A logger sells a truckload of lumber
for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price; in other words
$80. What is his profit?
In 1970 ("new math"): A logger exchanges set L of lumber for set M
of money. The cardinality of set M is 100 and each element is worth
$1. Make 100 dots representing the elements of set M. The set C of
costs contains 20 fewer points than set M. Represent set C as a
subset of set M, and answer the following question: What is the
cardinality of the set P of profits?
1980's. ("Basic skills" CTBS tests): A logger sells a truckload of
wood for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20.
Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
In 1990 ("Outcome-based" CLAS tests): By cutting down beautiful
forest trees, a logger makes $20. What do you think of this way of
making a living? Topic for group discussion: How did the forest
birds and squirrels feel?
In 2000: ("New, Flexible Math"): Keep bending them straws and don't
ask no questions.
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[CTRL] The Anointed
Reviewed by Ken Von Kohorn Liberal Zealots and their plan for America The liberal elite - despite the obvious and pervasive failures of their philosophy - have consolidated influential positions in America. Ensconced in schools and universities, in the American Bar Association, throughout state and federal government bureaucracies and in the Mainstream Media, these self anointed arbiters of social rectitude blithely ignore mounds of evidence that prove their ideas bankrupt - and yet they retain credibility and professional esteem despite consistently errant forecasts, deficient reasoning and often insufferable arrogance. Tom Sowell's latest book, a nine chapter bill of indictment, catalogues the liberal elites' long list of dubious achievements - from wasted welfare money to environmental fraud to regulatory mischief to reckless constitutional revisionism. The influence of the "Anointed," Sowell claims, derives from their lack of accountability, made possible by a pervasive gullibility in the public and in the mainstream media. According to Sowell, here's how the Anointed work their destructive "magic": * The Anointed identify a "Crisis" - i.e., some aspect of American life that is imperfect. * They then offer a "Solution" to the "Crisis" which requires some form of social engineering. But as Sowell points out, in the real world there are no perfect "solutions" but only trade-offs among different approaches - with each trade-off possessing pluses and minuses. * Skeptics examine the proffered "Solution" and predict that an array of new problems will be created. Their analysis is immediately dismissed by the Anointed. * Over time the results of the new policy manifest themselves. Inevitably, the poor outcomes anticipated by the skeptics do in fact take place. * The Anointed won't admit to the failure of their "Solution," claiming that the critics' complaints are "simplistic" and "insensitive," or that yet more time and/or more expenditures are needed. Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" program provides a vivid example of how this process takes place. Even though Sowell's research shows that poverty rates were declining into the 1960's, the Anointed identified poverty as a "Crisis" in 1964 and designed a "Solution" - government "investment" in the poor. By giving the poor money, it was argued, the less well off would be able to get a better education and permanently lift themselves out of poverty. At the time, skeptics said that government handouts would create dependency instead of independence, but the Anointed proceeded with their plans anyway. Today, after trillions of dollars of social spending poverty, illegitimacy and inner city turmoil abound as never before. Yet typically, the Anointed refuse to acknowledge their failures. Accountability has never been the strong point of the Anointed, because in reality their social "conscience" represents a religion - a religion which admits of no error, which the rest of us must honor with our tithes in the form of ever rising taxes, and to which the Anointed have conveniently appointed themselves the High Priests. Sowell sees today's Anointed as representing a grave threat to America. As universities and schools indoctrinate a new generation of zealous liberals - the future Anointed - a critical mass might be achieved which could administer their destructive elixir on American society ad infinitum. What about the election of 1994 and the rise of the New Media - talk radio, the Internet, C-Span and the like? Is it too late to stop the Anointed? Ever the optimist, I believe that it is not; but thus far, as Sowell points out (paraphrasing Winston Churchill): "Seldom have so few cost so much to so many." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Fwd: LASER CAMERA SEES THRU CONCRETE WALLS, METAL, GROUND...
---Forwarded message--- From: Jerry Wayne Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 Subj: [Keelynet] Laser camera sees thru concrete walls, metal, ground... Hi Folks! Ken Carrigan sent this out to the list when it was acting up so it didn't get shared or archivedunfortunately it's a Dennis Lee affiliation however, the technology is sufficiently interesting to look intowheat from chaff and all that..g.. -Original Message- From: Carrigan, Ken To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 Subj: LASER CAMERA SEES THRU CONCRETE WALLS, METAL, GROUND... Of course this is in the LEE site but have a look at the 'Laser camera' hot link on the left right hand side. It is a *.ram movie but I took the authors notes and wrote them down for all you Keelyneters to go research as this is known technology the author states. http://ucsofa.com/products.htm Is the Link to the website. Authors words at end of movie: As much as I can interpret with his heavy accent... "Reveal how the camera works. There are two types of lasers. One laser has a constant frequency which is polarized with the other laser which is pulsating radiation. This laser is also calibrated to function on another frequency. What we do is to shoot a sample at the atoms with the laser and this causes the molecules to move sidewards. Thereby the laser penetrates the matter it is directed towards. For this internal. In addition, we have a simulated camera beam trying very close to gamma radiation, which contributes to making the pictures very clear. It has gradually become a well known technology that when you shoot a sample of atoms with a laser and cause the molecules to move sidewards, you can run the laser beam through matter which normally never can be done. Unfortunately we can not reveal any more about our technology." The camera he states will be sold commercially first for mining where the laser is too powerful for medical uses. He stated this also. Australia and U.S. he indicated would be first to have rights to his system. He demonstrated a stage I model unit which penetrated rock upto 40cm, also a medical system showing beating heart, bones in the foot, and someone walking behind a wall which I think was concrete. Simply amazing. This technology will put X-Rays out of business, ultrasound imaging, and revolutionize the medical establishment. This technology also has GRANDIOSE applications such as communications, weapon inspection at airports, police or military use in seeing behind walls. There is NO hiding with this. Now.. also poking around in the government research area.. in RD.. the is hush hush discussion about submarine communications below sea level. Turns out that the military just might know about this technology but only in one aspect. Discussions reveal that they 'do' have methods to communicate with subs, maybe experimental, but is not VLF, ELF, or higher frequency. I then asked about molecular type communications that can 'see' between the space of water molecules (which there is a lot of space) and the answer was silent. I then stated that I knew of certain frequencies that can penetrate the water and wondered if laser could be designed to produce this frequency. I then got a semi answer back... as in yes they have green lasers!! So... maybe that is a key??? v/r Ken Carrigan . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
SkeptiNews 000427c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/26_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No male belly-dancers were hypnotized during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Californication? http://www.wmin.ac.uk/media/HRC/ci/calif.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ An After-Death Communications specialist helps pierce the veil of death, speaking with both Princess Di http://englishrosepress.com/diana.html and, of course, Chris Farley http://englishrosepress.com/farley.html. Future projects are under construction, and oh-so-so-generous investors http://www.englishrosepress.com/who.html may wish to help spread the light. For now, Princess Di has graciously agreed to provide a newsletter http://www.englishrosepress.com/news.html so you can stay current with post-life events. Specialists: http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Wackos/ : D'ya like to talk/dine/travel/sleep with the dead? D'ya need professional help to do so? Are you sure they're dead, or do mindcontrollers beam their voices/scents/touches into your sensory-cognitive system? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Miracle' Hi-Tech Crops Causing Widespread Brain Impairment - report says high-yielding rice and wheat varieties that brought about the much-heral- ded "Green Revolution" are among a range of environmental factors under- mining human intelligence. http://www.sightings.com/general/mir.htm # NEW ARSENAL FOR FOOD PROTECTION. Scientists are developing new processing methods to minimize contamination of our food keep the risk of foodborne disease low. But will consumers accept these new processes when they emerge? http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=32521 : Is your brain/body/spirit impaired by what you eat/drink/smoke/think/grow? Is y'r IQ more affected by your ingestion/acculturation/agriculture/implant? # Computerized Map Of Latin Americas Threatened Birds may help save them from extinction. http://sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000427075524.htm # Fargo - Plague of Bunnies: http://cosmiverse.com/paranormal042702.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Radio Therapy OKd for Heartburn http://www.sightings.com/general/rfs.htm # 9 of 10 Americans Embracing Alternative Therapies - and they're dying like flies. Fortunate to have the 'conventional-medicine' safety net as a backup: http://www.sightings.com/general/aalttherapies.htm # Giuliani has prostate cancer - Treatable condition may affect Senate race against first lady - infected by Clinton operatives? Have they no shame? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2427/ts/newyork_giuliani_2.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/725000/audio/_728241_devenport1545.ram : What's your favorite medical/cultural/political conspiracy? Is it gender- related? Why do more men than women have heartburn,prostate cancer,baldness, flatulence? Are all health problems/treatments conspiracy-based? Who plots? @ Why on earth would you want to shoot any one with a noisy, nasty old gun http://www.recguns.com when you could use something little less lethal? http://www.middlebury.edu/~jswan/martial.arts/pages/nonlethal.html Now kill yourself with kindness at http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Gadgets/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Male belly-dancers dazzle Istanbul. (BBC) Suddenly, Turkish men are chal- lenging women for their dominant position on the belly-dancing stage. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_726000/726807.stm # Vermont House OKs gay unions http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9743869 # Secret Bill-Signing: http://rutlandherald.nybor.com/News/Story/6633.html # BoyScout GayHating Is Legal: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9743863 # Mormon Scout Walkout? http://www.sltrib.com/04262000/nation_w/44434.htm # A finger on sexuality (BBC) http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9709843 # Special Preference: http://www.nationalpost.com/home.asp?f=000426/270754 : Have you crossed any traditional gender barriers lately? Do the same bar- riers exist in all cultures you know of; or most; or a few; or only yours? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New Ugandan cult grave. (BBC) More than 50 bodies are retrieved from a mass grave at a house near Kampala rented by a Doomsday cult leader. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_728000/728266.stm # Quiet cult's doomsday deaths: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9746179 # Analysis: Why East Africa? http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9746180 # When devotion means death: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9746181 # Mystery death of Sikh leader's daughter. An enquiry has been ordered in Punjab into the circumstance surrounding the death of the daughter of an influential Sikh leader. Accidental food poi
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
nessie wrote: We're being colonized. Anybody who has read history knows what happens when Christians colonize your land. Pretty soon it's not your land any more and you are dead or a slave. As Archbishop Desmond Tutu explained, When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. -- Peter McWilliams http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/aint/403a.htm "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" -- Pope Leo X A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Press release from MGA Films on FLIR developments. (fwd)
MGA FILMS INC. PRESS RELEASE 24 March 2000 While we, at MGA find recent press reports on the subject of gunfire at the back of Mt. Carmel on 4-19-93 interesting, we do no not consider these remarksâfrom anonymous sourcesâto be conclusive. We stand by our expertsâ statements that the majority of evidence suggests there were indeed gunfire and other flash anomalies on the 4-19-93 FBI video tape. We are gratified that the 3-19-00 Fort Hood test confirms what we have maintained all along: the F.L.I.R. equipment used at Mt. Carmel couldâand in our expertsâ opinions didâpick up what appears to be gunfire and other anomalies. We have never said that all flash anomalies on the F.L.I.R. are gunfire; there are several others types of flashes that are not projectile/small arms gunfire. These include, but are not limited to, the "dog-run" window double flash and the detonations in the court yard and a flash from insulation near the SW corner before the fire started. Further, we have noted several concerns about the test protocol to the Special Councilâs office and the Davidian Attorneys prior to the testing. These concerns included the temperature variances between the two test days, and the lack of tests conducted with the anti-F.L.I.R. clothing that may have been worn by government agents on the day of the fire. MGA in cooperation with a number of experts in fields of thermal imaging and visible light imaging are examining additional material regarding the issue of agents being seen or not seen on April 19,1993. After we have had an opportunity to review the tapes and data from the 3-19-00 tests at Fort Hood, we will have more to say on these subjects. ### P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 10 days in May; a test about terrorists (fwd)
WASHINGTON HEADLINES 10 days in May; a test about terrorists By LISA HOFFMAN Scripps Howard News Service April 24, 2000 WASHINGTON - In an unprecedented exercise next month, a phalanx of the U.S. government's top officials will engage in a massive field test of the nation's preparedness to respond to a terrorist attack within its borders. Sometime during 10 still-secret days in May, seven Cabinet leaders will receive a chilling, though mock, alert that unknown terrorists have unleashed chemical or biological weapons simultaneously on two cities _ Denver and Portsmouth, N.H. Attorney General Janet Reno; the secretaries of defense, energy, transportation, agriculture, and health and human services; and the head of the Environmental Protection Agency will have to drop whatever they are doing and preside over the federal government's emergency response to such a dreaded mass attack. Called "Operation TopOff" _ for "top officials" _ the field exercise will involve thousands of participants including the governors of the two states, the National Guard and hundreds of state and local emergency and medical personnel. The directors of the FBI and the Federal Emergency Management Agency also will play a lead role. A companion drill, possibly involving a pretend attack involving nuclear weapons, will occur in the Washington, D.C., area. Until the mock weapons of mass destruction attacks are announced, only a handful of organizers will know the nature and dimensions of the planned assault. The type of deadly agent used, where it is released, how many people are felled, who the perpetrators are _ all will remain unknown until the exercise is launched sometime between May 7 to May 29. "The players know very, very little," Justice Department spokesman Doug Johnson said. Colorado Gov. Bill Owens said he is completely in the dark. "It could be a scenario of anything from Denver's water supplies being poisoned to an airborne particulate being released," Owens said. "We are literally waiting hour by hour for the test." Mindful that real terrorists _ knowing that the government's attention will be focused elsewhere _ might view this as a fine time to stage an actual attack, the agencies are taking special precautions. "We're aware that could occur and we have taken appropriate measures," Johnson said. Among the elements to be evaluated in the mock disaster are the time it takes to identify the agent, ability to limit its spread, efforts to treat the wounded without causing further contamination, search for the terrorists involved, and coordinate the dozens of agencies involved. For several years, the federal government has been training state and local police, firefighters, hospital personnel and others in managing the aftermath of a deadly terrorist incident. Denver and Portsmouth were chosen as sites of the mock attack because they represent a range of size and preparation. Denver has undergone the training while Portsmouth has not. Officials in each city also were eager to participate in the May drill. Planning for the drill, which was ordered by Congress, began about a year ago. It is expected to cost no more than $3.5 million, the amount Capitol Hill authorized to cover the expenses involved. Federal and state officials intend to begin publicizing the upcoming fake attack this week so citizens will not be blindsided or panicked by the exercise. "We don't want to scare the public," FEMA spokesman Mark Wilson said. (Contact Lisa Hoffman at HoffmanL(at)shns.com or http://www.shns.com.) SCRIPPS HOWARD NEWS SERVICE 1090 Vermont Ave. N.W. Suite 1000 Washington, D.C. USA 20005 GENERAL LINE: 1.202.408.1484 FAX: 1.202.408.5950 © 1999 Scripps Howard News Service. All Rights Reserved. Webmaster e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
[CTRL] Flashes Not Gunfire, Waco Judge Says (fwd)
Flashes Not Gunfire, Waco Judge Says NewsMax.com Monday, April 24, 2000 Those suspicious glints that showed up on the infrared videotape taken at Waco were not gunfire, a preliminary review shows according to U.S. District Court Judge Walter Smith. Speaking at a pretrial hearing yesterday, Smith said that experts retained by the court had made an initial determination that the review of the infrared videotape caught about 57 ``thermal events,'' - flashes of light that signify heat. There ``were no muzzle blasts either from Branch Davidians or government agents,'' Judge Smith told attorneys, adding, however, that he does not consider the report to be incontrovertible evidence. Reacting to the disclosure, Michael Caddell, lead attorney for the Branch Davidians, said ``You get good news. You get bad news. ... This is not going to result in a dismissal of the case.'' Caddell added that there was a suspicious pattern'' in the audio portion of the videotape. Several portions of the tape are missing audio, he said, and on one section of the tape someone is heard asking that the audio be turned off. Preliminary results from a recent court-ordered simulation of the siege staged at Ft. Hood, Texas showed that flashes captured by the original infrared videotape were most likely sunlight reflecting off bits of broken glass and other reflective debris - not government gunfire as Cadell's clients claim. The court appointed experts are expected to submit their analysis of that simulation to the court by May 8. Yet to be acted on by the court is a motion filed by the plaintiffs' attorneys accusing the government of: -Failing to return a roll of film confiscated from the Texas Rangers that showed bodies and weapons inside a concrete bunker. ``The absence of these photographs makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to determine if any of these persons were shot outside of that room and moved into it prior to or after the fire,'' the plaintiff's motion said. -Attempting to pass off as originals audio recordings made from listening devices planted inside the compound during the siege. The plaintiffs say an analysis indicates that the tapes are copies, not originals. The tapes - which the government says prove that it was the Davidians who spread fuel and started the fire - also show signs of being recorded with multiple recorders, an expert retained by the plaintiffs concluded. The government says the allegations are baseless, insisting that the plaintiffs' accusations relied on incomplete, illogical or scientifically invalid analyses. However, the government has admitted that it is missing 30 original negatives from the first of at least seven rolls of film shot by an FBI photographer who circled 1,000 feet above the complex in a surveillance aircraft, although they claim they have prints of the missing negatives along with the original contact sheet of the negatives. ## P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
I'll stick with Matt 6:1 and beyond. "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them ... do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honoured by men ... And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men ... " I've omitted a little here and there but there's enough above to get your bearings. Oh, this is 'red lettre' stuff, too, THE words. When you read these parts and look at the state of organised religion, Xtianity in particular, it seems a little out of sync. I would imagine that the Nazarene was a little more original in his delivery, not having a bound book to memorise nor to rely upon for rote learning. And, so the faithful are like oxen bound to the waterwell ... around and around they go, going somewhere but over and over the same well-trodden path ... and verily I say unto you, throw off your harness and seek new paths to new horizons (but don't forget the histories). AER It think this forum carries somewhere the dictum "Caveat Lector" - the administer must surely be a prophet - for he foresaw this axioms fulfilment in this deluded authors trashy, muddled-minded attempt at personal myth-making. Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reply: [CTRL] Missile Defense Is a Bargain [At $60 Billion?!?] Written in a Dow Jones Publication !!![?]
To: Michael Spitznor (sp): This was a very nice, well written article and informative. Looking at the reasons of the opponents in Congress, rather their "political allignment" to the Liberal Left and alligment as Useful Idots for the NWO; is it any wonder why they would be against it? How "Secret" would our National Missle Defense System Be when we have Traitors in Congress, the State Department and the White House who have Sold our National Security Out for Political Contributions. Guess they don't realize that when our Nations Foreign Ememies acquire our Technology we use to Defend our Nation; All the Money in the World will not Protect or Defend them as They Have Sold Us Out. Further, they are very well on the way to fulfilling the U.N. / N.W.O. Plans for Confiscation of All firearms from our Civilian Population and then, they will take the guns from the Police. History is repeating itself from the 1930's in Nazi Germany. Well, the plans for the IRS to register Firearms so they can confisicate them after taxing them will not work as Millions of Patriots will Refuse to Comply. The Republic Will Not Fall as Long as We Stand Together. One way to Cut Down the Threat of Arms Profilation is to Stop ALL Foreign Aid to Nations Who are using it to Build Weapons, Fund Terriosts Against Us. We Should Bring All Our Troops Home. Our Constitution Does NOT Provide for a Common Defense for the Rest of the World,. JUST US. we Should Tell the UN We will Refuse to send our son's and daughter's to fight other people's Wars. The only Real Global Warming is the Flatulence Between the Ears of the Useful Idot Liberals Ears! Warning, Excessive Liberal Pontification Leads to Excessive Brain Flatulence, rise of Blood Pressure, and Stress levels. The "Socialist Intellectuals in America" should remember those who went to live in Uncle Joe Stalin's U.S.S.R. Never Return here Alive,.A few committed sucide, others died in the Gulog / Prisons as they were Useful Idots Stalin used to his advantage. Funny thing about the article, is that it was in a Dow Jones Publician.!!! ~ Mike ~ * De Oppresso Liber * * A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Dumbed down lost generation #1
Educators who support the new math say that old-fashioned teaching through memorization and rules produced generations of people who hated math and never deeply understood it. It should go without saying that not all people will like (or 'get') all subjects and excel at them. The problem I see with not "teaching through memorisation and rules" is THIS can apply to anything, reading, (w)riting, or 'rithmetic. Just recall how numb and dumb some are about geography ... unless someone can put the nation crazy quilt together as a cohesive and systematical whole , France could be next to Zimbabwe which could be next to Fiji. Another example of education analogous to the first two of the three pigs's houses; the third pig's house had a good foundation and he went to market with the expecttion he'd have something to return to time and again. I can also see this fluidity on rules with regard to reading and writing. As long as it makes sense to the kid, who cares who else can read his or her writing. As far as math is concerned, it's the sense of application that makes it boring ... if the kids can see no use for it, it won't be important. AER Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] L-Soft archive [was: KRIS, URGENT!! OBSCENE...
Yes, I have always had the same problem with attachments. That's why I use the second archive shown below (http://archive.jab.org ). It works fine for me. I use Outlook Express. Linda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] L-Soft archive [was: KRIS, URGENT!! OBSCENE... Kris Millegan wrote: I dunna know which archives you visit and how, but both the lsoft and the mail archive site collect, store and retrive attached files. That's odd; perhaps I'm a bumbling fool when it comes to computers (which is certainly likely), or maybe I'm extremely unlucky, but since Linda began the archive at L-Soft I've never been able to open a single attachment. I've tried on more occasions than I care to remember, and have used at least half a dozen different browsers over that time. For example, here's a random L-Soft page with an attachment: Fwd: Ayn Rand's Federal Reserve http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0004dL=ctrlF=S=P=16703 as usual, the attached file failed to open for me, even after using three different browsers, on two separate occasions: Opera 3.62 (which I usually use) had a pop-up stating: The type of file you just tried to open is unknown to Opera. Choose a program to show the file; save the file or cancel the transfer. Type: message/rfc822 Netscape Communicator 4.7 (which I use for e-mail) pretends to transfer the data and load the page, but the attachments never actually load. If I try to open it in a separate window, I get a blank page. Explorer 5.0 has a pop-up stating "Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site mhtml:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/... =messsage/rfc822 Could not complete the operation due to error 800c0011." This is typical of what happens. Any ideas what I might try? Or have any of you ever had similar problems opening attachments at L-Soft? == NOTE: Trying one last time before sending this message, I was able to open the attachment with the Opera browser (as it turns out, the solution was staring me in the face all along), but still no luck with Navigator or Explorer. Perhaps I'm just a 'lone nut' with his newbie head up his computer illiterate ass. Anyone else out there having trouble opening the above attachment with Netscape or Explorer? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
I agree...I can't stand these televangelists either, and these HUGE churches I see everywhere. How proud the ministers must be to pray (prey) in such a fine building...must be a real ego boost. I'll stick with Matt 6:1 and beyond. "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them ... do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honoured by men ... And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men ... " A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: What an egregious bigot. I read history and I drew the only logical conclusion. I have also noticed over the years that when people attack me ad hominim it is generally because they have no rebuttal for what I actually said. Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
It's kinda like the Springer - Raphael - Lake - Et Al of the religious sort. I once saw the Copelands on TV and they assured their audience (in person and out in TV land) that they were supposed to have lots of money, just like telling the fish they're supposed to have lots of worms or minnows or whatever ... buy the book by Bakker (Jim, of PTL fame and fortune and prison and poverty}), *I Was Wrong* ... haven't read it but according to an interview I saw with him, he finally got to read the good book while having nothing esle to do for a few years ... shoulda read it before PTL then, well, he'd have never been famous ... some of the ones I've seen define credulity ... AER Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Correct" - ing Easter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree...I can't stand these televangelists either, and these HUGE churches I see everywhere. How proud the ministers must be to pray (prey) in such a fine building...must be a real ego boost. Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dr. Laura, the Virgin Mary, and Elephant Dung
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: the ongoing protest efforts by the Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation to pressure Paramount Television to scrap its plans to produce a TV show for radio talk-show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger. This is a misguided approach. Better they should petition for equal time. Put Dan Savage on the air. Let him and Dr. L. battle it out. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Sacred Cows in the Newsroom
Forwarded Message Dear Journalists and Editors: I request you to take a few minutes to answer a short survey for my final project for my senior communications seminar at Albright College. I am attempting to research what are the decision-making process by newspaper editors and reporters, and the influence of internal and external pressures upon editorial content. Your answers will be kept confidential. I will be happy to provide a copy of my final report to any respondent who requests it. Thank you for your cooperation, it is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Jennifer L. Schestok 1. Name of Newspaper: 2. Male/Female: 3. In your experience at your news organization, how common is it for stories to be killed for considerations other than editorial judgment? Very oftenSometimes Never 4. Have any of your stories been spiked for non-editorial consideration in the past year? Yes No Can't Say 5. If one or more of your stories has been killed for non-editorial reasons, what, in your opinion, was the reason for killing the story (ies)? Pressure from advertiser Pressure from business sources Pressure from political sources Pressure from senior management Friendships in the newsroom Other (please specify) 6. Are you and your colleagues sensitive to pressures from "sacred cows"? (According to Ben H. Bagdikian, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author of The Media Monopoly, sacred cows are defined as "friends who are given preferential treatment in the news, who are immune to criticism, who can keep out embarrassing information, or who are guaranteed a positive image.") Yes NoCan't say 7. A. How frequently are such influences exercised? Everyday A few times a week Once a week A few times a month Once a monthA few times a year Seldom Never Can't say B. Can you recall a specific story/type of story? 8. Do you as an editor/reporter ever self-censor stories? Yes No Can't say 9. Do you think the majority of stories covered in your paper are published for the sole purpose of entertaining and gaining readership or for informing the public of important issues? Entertainment/Readership Informing the public Can't Say 10. Briefly explain how decisions over whether or not to publish a story are made in your newsroom? 11. Additional comments: Return to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennifer Schestok, freelance journalist and student -- Kathleen Freedom of opinion can only exist when the government thinks itself secure. -- Bertrand Russell This signature was made by SigChanger. You can find SigChanger at: http://huizen.dds.nl/~phranc/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] There is no Free TV (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:20:10 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: There is no Free TV On NPR's Morning Edition last week, Nina Tottenberg said that if the Supreme Court supports Congress, it is in effect the end of the National Public Radio (NPR), NEA and the Public Broadcasting System (PBS). PBS, NPR and the arts are facing major cutbacks in funding. In spite of the efforts of each station to reduce spending costs and streamline their services, some government officials believe that the funding currently going to these programs is too large a portion of funding for something which is seen as not worthwile. Currently, taxes from the general public for PBS equal $1.12 per person per year, and the National Endowment for the Arts equals $0.64 per year. A January 1995 CNN/USA TODAY/ Gallup Poll indicated that 76% of Americans wish to keep funding for PBS, third only to national defense and law enforcement as the most valuable programs for federal funding. The Senate and House appropriations committees each have 13 subcommittees with jurisdiction over many programs and agencies. Each subcommittee passes its own appropriation bill. The goal each year is to have each bill signed by the beginning of the fiscal year, which is October 01. The only way that our representatives can be aware of the base of support for PBS and funding for these types of programs is by making our voices heard. Please add your name to this list and forward it to friends who believe in what this stands for. This list will be forwarded to the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States. This petition is being passed around the Internet. Please add your name to it so that afunding can be maintained for the NEA, NPR and PBS. HOW TO SIGN AND FORWARD; IT'S EASY: Please keep this petition rolling forward. Do not reply to me. Please sign and forward to others to sign. If you prefer not to sign, please send to the e-mail address indicated below. DON'T WORRY ABOUT DUPLICATES. This is being forwarded to several people at once to add their names to the peittion. It won't matter if many people receive the same list as the names are being managed. This is for anyone who thinks NPR/PBS is a worthwhile expenditure of $1.12/year of their taxes. A petition follows. If you sign, please forward on to others. If not, please don't kill it--send it to the e mail address listed here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: If you happen to be the 150th, 200th, 250th, etac., signer of this petition please forward a copy to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This way we can keep track of the lists and organize them. Forward this to everyone you know and help us to keep these programs alive. THANK YOU! NOTE: It is preferable that you SELECT (highlight) the entirety of this letter and then COPY it into a new outgoing message, rather than simply forwarding it. In your new outgoing message, add your name to the bottom of the list and then send it on. Or if option is available, do a SEND AGAIN. 906) Shelley Schwartz; Tucson AZ95750 907) Lauren Olvera; Katy, TX 77450 908) Cathie Borresen; Katy, TX 77450 909) Helen Lembeck; Chula Vista, CA 91911 910) Toinee Wilder; Houston, TX 77090 911) Myrt Keller; Las Cruces, NM 88011 912) Sarah M. Legett, St. Louis, MO 63104 913) Carolyn Beiser, Ft.Collins, CO 80524 914. Susan Rusch, Ft Collins, CO 805249 915. Deborah Repert, Lafayette, CO 80026 916. Mark Dornblaser, Lafayette, CO 80026 917. Tom Prescott, Yarmouth, ME 04096 918. Cindy Rodrigue, Bowdoin, ME 04287 919. David Fasulo, Brunswick, ME 04011 920. Carol Leach, Brunswick, ME 04011 921. Michael A. Fasulo, Houlton, ME 04730 922. Martha B. Fasulo, Houlton, ME 04730 923. Jere S. Armen, Linneus, ME 04730 924. Ed Pearson, Faber, VA 22938 925. Georgia Pearson, Faber, VA 22938 Ed Pearson :-) A Peace Taxpayer War taxpaying cannot make Peace on Earth. Consider peace taxpaying. Please see web: A HREF="peacetaxpayers.org"PEACETAXPAYERS/A.org # P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But let's take a look at the product of Cuba, and I'm not talking about sugar or cigars. Castro or not, they seem to be raising some pretty good kids. Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty situations, and he is still pretty much what most of us would like our children to be (except for that jumping on the furniture thing). He is not fat, snotty, depressed or fixated. Somebody in Cuba is doing things right. Perhaps because his father spanks him when necessary, which some of the anti- Castro fanatics feel is tantamount to child abuse and warrants separating Elian from his father... But I say we could do with some more spankings, then perhaps we wouldn't have our own kids disrepecting their elders, or being subjected to a smorgasbord of prescribed psychoactive drugs... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Elian's Rescuer Enjoys the Spotlight
I will comment on this article in another post June = Elian's rescuer enjoys the spotlight A fateful fishing trip upends Dalrymple's life By Michael Leahy WASHINGTON POST WASHINGTON, April 27 - Three nights after a federal agent found him trying to hide in a cramped closet with Elian Gonzalez in his arms, Donato Dalrymple sits in his Georgetown hotel room at midnight, ready to talk for hours, his body clock by now like a Vegas lounge singer's. Elian may be gone, but Donato Dalrymple, aka The Fisherman, is in demand. OLIVER NORTH rushed up to him a few hours ago to call him a hero. Some CNBC lovelies sought his attentions and autograph. And just five minutes ago, in a cab coming back from yet another television interview, he heard Howard Stern say his name on the radio. "Howard Stern! Howard Stern!" he is exulting. "It was just too cool," says The Fisherman. Elian may be gone, but Donato Dalrymple, aka The Fisherman, is in demand. "Did you know Elian liked to lick my face?" he asks, apropos of nothing. The thought hangs there while the phone in his room rings and rings. He ignores it. He wants to talk about Elian licking him, for no moment is more revealing about what Elian Gonzalez has meant to the life of Donato Dalrymple, or about how a child's tragedy can become a middle-aged man's deliverance. By then, five weeks after he helped pluck Elian out of the Atlantic on Thanksgiving Day, Dalrymple had found what he'd always wanted, and what had always eluded him. He'd walk through the Miami home of Elian's relatives and strangers would reach out to hug him, reverentially calling him The Fisherman, which, the more they said it, came to have a saintly quality. For many people contemptuous of both the relatives and federal officials, Dalrymple seemed the one pure, likable character in this custody tug-of-war. He'd stroll outside, and TV reporters would scream for interviews. Hordes of Cubans and gringos sought his autograph. Fisherman. Fisherman. Pescador. Pescador. The moniker made him sound like a character born of Hemingway, and he looked and sounded the part: broad-shouldered, barrel-chested, salt of the earth, with tattoos covering his arms and a passionate bark to his speech. But, in fact, he is no fisherman; he cleans houses for a living. Thanksgiving Day was the first time The Cleaner had ever gone fishing. He didn't even want to fish, he admits, but agreed to drive the boat for his cousin, content just to be out on the water, listening to oldies on the radio. He left it to his cousin to bait the hooks. "My cousin was getting on me," he grouses. "He always does. The phone rings and Dalrymple, 40, picks it up. Someone tells him he'll be on "Geraldo" the next day. "Sure, uh-huh. Great." He hangs up, stands and does a torso bend or two. An avid bodybuilder until the rescue of Elian turned his interests elsewhere, he bears an uncanny resemblance to a young Jack La Lanne, the fitness guru. His 5-foot-7 frame is dominated by his coiffed 'do, which stands straight up, electrified, like Lyle Lovett's. He has lost his train of thought, now asking whether his visitor wants to see how the Border Patrol agent aimed the gun at his head. "Well, actually it wasn't at my head," he says, grinning, shrugging. "It was right here." He points to a spot below his left shoulder. He remembers where he was going with this. "Let me tell you the moment when I knew my life had changed," he says, thinking back to an evening shortly after New Year's in the Gonzalez home in Little Havana. He had been lying alongside Elian on the little boy's bed, in the room Elian shared with his cousin Marisleysis, when the big truth struck him: There were few things worse, The Fisherman thought, than living 40 years on this planet and never feeling important. He had been eking out a living and a measure of contentment from mopping and vacuuming other people's houses, but contentment is what you settle for in a life unnoticed, when you walk the streets and feel invisible. No longer. He and the boy were on the bed watching "The Lion King," the Disney feature - beloved by Elian - about a brave young lion whose dad had perished. Elian enjoyed imitating the lions licking the cheeks of everybody they liked. Elian put his tongue on Dalrymple's cheek and laughed. Lick, lick, lick. Then he placed his head on Dalrymple's big chest. The two of them lay motionless for a while before Elian put his tiny index finger in the man's closed palm. "You know, I've never felt important in my life," Dalrymple says, his eyes dampening at the memory. "But I felt like the most important man in the world that night You know, life can be hard. But what the kid went through, and the lives he changed being with him, well, it's hard to explain. He makes people feel important and loved and powerful." Dalrymple walks over
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP!
From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] First observation: is the characterisation of 'child abuser' as put on Papa Gonzalez another translation for 'disciplinarian'; 'abused' because Kid Gonzalez didn't get the Commando Rangers in their frilly dresses for his birthday? I think because it's been established that Juan Miguel hasn't been adverse to laying a firm palm on little Elian's backside on occasion when it's warranted Certain liberal types who believe all kids should be mollycoddled lable any form of physical discipline, including spanking, as 'child abuse'. But strangely, children from cultures where parents practice strict discipline, including spanking, tend to be better behaved, happier, and psychologically more stable than children who are raised in a permissive atmosphere. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] pas
Hi ! Below please find an article on Parental Alienation Syndrome. Sincerely, Neil Brick Pasadena Star News http://www.newschoice.com/newspapers/LosAngeles/Pasadena/default.asp search for Gardner 4/23/00 "Disputed theory used in custody cases Children often victims in Parental Alienation Syndrome strategy April 23, 2000 By Gina Keating Staff Writer In the Los Angeles County family court system, the vast majority of custody cases are resolved peacefully, with parents deciding with little rancor how their kids can be shared between them. But in the contested cases that go to court -- about 40 percent -- kids and parents are often buffeted by arbitrary and unfair laws. A discredited psychological theory known as Parental Alienation Syndrome plays a key role in this morass. The Columbia University psychiatrist who claims to have documented the syndrome says its victims, usually children, are prompted to turn against one parent by the other" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AMERICAN PIE ON WALL STREET
BEFORE YOU READ THE FOLLOWING, YOU SHOULD FIRST SING "AMERICAN PIE" BY DON McLEAN. (Sing out loud) "Bye bye miss american pie drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry them good ol boys were drinkin whiskey and rye singin this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die." Did you sing it out loud? You should to get the full effect. Sing this to "American Pie." Humble Pie A long, long week ago I can still remember how the market used to make me smile What I'd do when I had the chance Is get myself a cash advance And add another tech stock to the pile But Alan Greenspan made me shiver With every speech that he delivered Bad news on the rate front Still I'd take one more punt I can't remember if I cried When I heard about the CPI I lost my fortune and my pride The day the NASDAQ died So bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July We're right back where we were in July Did you buy stocks you never heard of? QCOM at 150 or above? 'Cos George Gilder told you so Now do you believe in Home Depot? Can Wal-Mart save your portfolio? And can you teach me what's a P/E ratio? Well, I know that you were leveraged too So you can't just take a long-term view Your broker shut you down No more margin could be found I never worried on the whole way up Buying dot coms from the back of a pickup truck But Friday I ran out of luck It was the day the NSDAQ died I started singin' Bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July Yeah we're right back where we were in Ju-li. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] There is no Free TV (fwd)
In a message dated 4/27/2000 7:01:04 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On NPR's Morning Edition last week, Nina Tottenberg said that if the Supreme Court supports Congress, it is in effect the end of the National Public Radio (NPR), NEA and the Public Broadcasting System (PBS) If the Supreme Court doesn't support this Republican controlled Congress, it will be the surprise of the year. Rehnquist is a firm believer in supporting conservative opinions. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [NA] The End of America?
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NA] The End of America? Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 12:41 PM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin (Listen anytime to Votefraud vs Honest Elections "crash course" radio show over the internet at www.sightings.com in the archives, April 3rd, 2000 show, Jeff Rense host, Jim Condit Jr. guest) April 22, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire The End of America? By chance, I had to wake up shortly before 6:30 AM to go to the store to get milk and bread for my kids. Because of this, I saw the first pictures of jack-booted, fascist, Communist thugs raiding the Gonzales home in Miami, Florida to snatch Elian on behalf of New World Order Government Commissars Castro, Clinton, Reno et al. These storm troopers of world dictatorship battered down the door with a ram, entered the Gonzales home with automatic weapons drawn, pointing the barrel of the gun within a foot of Elian Gonzaless head, spraying the home and the small crowd outside with pepper gas and tear gas, sending at least one woman in the crowd into convulsions. One of the pictures captured on camera by an Associated Press photographer shows some anti-American gas-masked storm trooper pointing a gun one foot away from Elian Gonzales, who was at the time being held by Donato Dalrymple, the man who rescued Elian off the shark-infested ocean between Cuba and the USA exactly 5 months ago, where Elian was floating alone, his mother and the others having slipped into the ocean in an attempt to escape Castro and get to freedom. This picture further shows an Elian already having burst into tears, with a look of surprise/terror on his face just having been awaken by this terroristic early morning, Good Saturday raid. Video film then shows terrorized and crying Elian being spirited out to the government car, and whisked away in this car driven by a man wearing a black ski-mask to hide his identity, like an increasing number of the New World Order Government terror police. Attorney-thug and Castro-hit-man Greg Craig (Clintons impeachment lawyer enough said) had issued a letter asking the press NOT to show any pictures or videos of Elian being snatched. Yes, Thug Craig, we are well aware how you totalitarians like to operate in the dark. How long will it be till the powers behind Clinton-Reno are able to prevent such videos and pictures from reaching the public? believe me, were headed in that direction, but thank God that the New World Order owners of the networks dont dare YET limit their personnel to out and out Bolsheviks like ABCs Ted Koppel, NBCs Andrea Mitchell, wife of Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan. And most of the on-screen anchors at all Big TV networks spent the last two weeks doing the Ruling Elites work by asking almost exclusively questions like how is Elian going to be reunited with his father? trying to psychologically prepare the American people for the inevitability of this brutal government snatch. I do not live in the America I grew up in -- anymore. For me, America has turned a corner this morning. The usurpers of the American Government, put where they are by a combination of Big Media psycho-warfare on the American people and computer vote counts, this day have plucked a 6 year old child from the family that cared for him since his rescue from the ocean, in order to begin his return to Communism and Castro where a team of psychiatrists, armed with psychiatric drugs, are waiting to brainwash the poor boy in a secluded government building that has been specifically prepared for Elians return to Cuba as has been announced by Castros own spokesman No doubt at this moment (about 3 hours after the police state raid and snatch) Elian is heavily sedated, as is the practice of all police state operations of this kind. Elian and the hostage-Dad Juan Miguel have been taken to an unknown place. I think of the line from BraveHeart spoken by the character William Wallace --- if anyone supports this Clinton/Reno tyrannical, heartless outrage against Elian today is still calling themselves an American then Im ashamed to call myself one! A little earlier FOX Cable news showed Marisleysis Gonzales, the relative who became the boys surrogate mother after his rescue from the ocean, describing the scene as the Clinton/Reno heavily armed occupation government he-devils broke in, pointing automatic weapons at them and carrying a black bag to put the boy in. Marisleysis pleaded with the invaders not to put the boy in the bag. Then, a Clinton/Reno she-devil screamed, Give me the #$@%$ boy. Give me the #@#$% boy (Marisleysis made clear without saying it that it was the worst
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Elian's Rescuer Enjoys the Spotlight
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Now he admits he was trying to find an escape route Isn't that a felony? Isn't that several felonies? Why hasn't this guy been charged? Why haven't any of these people been charged? They're kidnappers. They held a hostage. Nobody has been charged in any of this. Why? Why do Cuban-Americans have special rights? As for the what the mother, or someone, did to Elian out there at sea, two words come to mind: child endangerment. If an American mother took her kid to Iraq and died on the way, what would America do to get the kid back? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Correct - ing Easter
If you to see a very adequite explanation of the events over easter(pro christaian) read "The Easter Enigma" by John Wenham. -Original Message- From: Alamaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Correct" - ing Easter I'll stick with Matt 6:1 and beyond. "Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them ... do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honoured by men ... And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men ... " I've omitted a little here and there but there's enough above to get your bearings. Oh, this is 'red lettre' stuff, too, THE words. When you read these parts and look at the state of organised religion, Xtianity in particular, it seems a little out of sync. I would imagine that the Nazarene was a little more original in his delivery, not having a bound book to memorise nor to rely upon for rote learning. And, so the faithful are like oxen bound to the waterwell ... around and around they go, going somewhere but over and over the same well-trodden path ... and verily I say unto you, throw off your harness and seek new paths to new horizons (but don't forget the histories). AER It think this forum carries somewhere the dictum "Caveat Lector" - the administer must surely be a prophet - for he foresaw this axioms fulfilment in this deluded authors trashy, muddled-minded attempt at personal myth-making. Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis
No. Actually it is because there have been statements made by neighbours in Cuba that he beat both Elian and his mother. Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alamaine Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 6:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis-SEEK HELP! Elian is from a broken home, but the kid has withstood some pretty nasty situations, and he is still pretty much what most of us would like our children to be (except for that jumping on the furniture thing). He is not fat, snotty, depressed or fixated. Somebody in Cuba is doing things right. First observation: is the characterisation of 'child abuser' as put on Papa Gonzalez another translation for 'disciplinarian'; 'abused' because Kid Gonzalez didn't get the Commando Rangers in their frilly dresses for his birthday? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Actually it is because there have been statements made by neighbours in Cuba that he beat both Elian and his mother. What's your source for that? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
And truth is impossible for you to deny, isn't it nessie? Bravo Kathleen. I would commend you for your very astute observation. (My kids say the sticks and stones thing when they have no defense, too, but they're children) Tara When truth needs a voice, silence lies. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nessie Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: What an egregious bigot. I read history and I drew the only logical conclusion. I have also noticed over the years that when people attack me ad hominim it is generally because they have no rebuttal for what I actually said. Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Does someone still have the articles about the abuse of accusations?
Would someone please resend this article. I had to format my hard drive a few days ago and lost some mail. I think Bard sent it, and I have seen many accounts on the internet. But I also lost my favourites folder. Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tara Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Doc To Marisleysis [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Actually it is because there have been statements made by neighbours in Cuba that he beat both Elian and his mother. What's your source for that? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: And truth is impossible for you to deny, isn't it nessie? Opinions vary. But, once again, you're changing the subject. Do you want to talk about your opinion of me or do you want to rebutt what I said about Christians? The reason I ask is because I don't really care what your opinion of me is. I do care that this space here that you are trying to colonize doesn't suffer the same fate as did the New World, West Africa, South Asia, Polynesia and everywhere else on earth that Christians have set their greedy sights. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reply: Re: [CTRL] Castro's Family Values
Oh, really Nesse. Are You the Official Appoligist for the El Producto Generalismo for Life InFidel Castro? Well, Sob Sister, I grew up in the 1960's and remember those air raid drills in grammer school. You know the one's where the kids had to climb under their desks and chairs and Kiss their Ass Goodby? Remember Ole InFidal had all those Russkie Nuke Missles over there? The reason you will not find those little Cuban Kids on the Park Benches, is that they are working their little asses off as peon slaves on the collective farms, or in their Communist version of the Hitler Youth Corps. In Communist Countries Children are Property of the State, Parents Have NO Rights. I remember, the Favor Castro did for us in the 1980's with that Flotila of Criminals and Insane People he tried to dump on us. Not to mention the boat loads of "normal people with kids" he had his Naval Patrol Boats machine gun so all of them,. kids too were drowned. BTW, My Family Fought their way out if European Communism in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising hand to hand against Russian T54 Tanks. They begged America for Air Support, which never came and they lost the revolt. They came to Amercia for Liberty and Freedom from Communist Oppression. What about the Innocients butchered by the tens of thousands in Cambodia by the Pol Pot Regime? I interviewed many who came here. And even met a few, learned doctors, teachers who fled the indoctorinated AK47 armed teenage Communists who murdered all the people of any education or social rank in the fields. And some of those people saw some of our American P.O.W.'s from the Viet Nam War, who they said worked as "Slave Labor" and were starving slowly, moved around alot too. Some of my old Cuban American Friends escaped Cuba for the same reason - to leave for Freedom. Or do you forget that our Freedom was paid for by the blood of the Patriots? Bist do Verstan Ze Nessie? Smile, your on "Comrad Camera". ~ Mike ~ *De Oppresso Liber * * A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government
I'd love to talk about my opinion of you, but that's not allowed to the depths I would feel it necessary to go. I feel no need to rebutt your opinion of Christianity. The Bible tells us that people like you will attack us. I don't want to be your friend, and I definitely don't want to waste my breath on your opinions, which are obviously biased by your own beliefs. But do I attack whatever religious beliefs you may or may not have? Expect people of any faith to become angry when you attack their faith and their God. But then you know that don't you? Isn't that your purpose in starting these "discussions"? Tara All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nessie Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 12:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: And truth is impossible for you to deny, isn't it nessie? Opinions vary. But, once again, you're changing the subject. Do you want to talk about your opinion of me or do you want to rebutt what I said about Christians? The reason I ask is because I don't really care what your opinion of me is. I do care that this space here that you are trying to colonize doesn't suffer the same fate as did the New World, West Africa, South Asia, Polynesia and everywhere else on earth that Christians have set their greedy sights. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
