[CTRL] Fractalisation
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=125254 I heard on Fox News while the riotors were torching their government building in Belgrade that this new guy, Kostunica, would complicate the Balkan puzzle (hence, "fractalisation") by asserting that Kosovo and the other Yugo counties (Yugo is NOT a large place)(39, 517 sq mi, slightly smaller than Kentucky (40,411 sq mi)) remain part of the whole. What follows is some more of the same. Only if the guys in DC remembered that military is the option AFTER all other attempts at political solutions fail to yield results. I think politicians should get paid after they demonstrate their ability to succeed, like the Chinese docotr gets paid AFTER the patient is cured. AER }}Begin Analysis: Fall of Milosevic filled with irony Thursday, 5 October 2000 20:53 (ET) Analysis: Fall of Milosevic filled with irony By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 (UPI)-- Publicly, the U.S. government is celebrating the fall of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic as a great triumph. And it looks certain to give Vice President Al Gore a welcome boost as a timely foreign policy achievement during the U.S. presidential election campaign. But the fall of Milosevic is filled with ironies and new problems for the U.S. government. And privately, many senior U.S. officials have for years regarded the possible victory of Vojislav Kostunica, the man who toppled Milosevic, as a cause for despair rather than rejoicing. A year ago, a U.S. official for a quasi-governmental organization working in Belgrade told UPI, on condition of anonymity: "From our point of view, Kostunica's victory would be the worst possible outcome. He would be determined to hold on to the territories seized by Milosevic. But unlike Milosevic, he would enjoy strong popular support for perhaps several years in power. It could be very difficult for us." Indeed, Kostunica's rise has proven to be far from welcome to the Clinton administration, especially to Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. The U.S. government poured millions of dollars into the Yugoslav opposition to Milosevic over the past five years. Robert Hayden, director of the Center for Russian and East European Studies at the University of Pittsburgh, said in a statement Thursday, "Since Milosevic made it impossible for the opposition to have any kind of access to internal funding, they had to turn to outside sources." However, this allowed Milosevic to portray the fractious, divided opposition to the Serbian people as tools of the United States, who would allow the nation to be dismembered and left at the mercy of its ancient enemies if they took power. However, this tactic did not work against Kostunica. He was the one prominent figure who did not accept any U.S. money. "I know .. Vojislav Kostunica. He's a constitutional lawyer, a Serbian patriot, a democrat. ... He's untainted by dealings with either the Milosevic regime or the Clinton administration," Hayden said. To the puzzlement and then chagrin of U.S. officials, this only served to make him the one credible alternative to Milosevic in the eyes of the Serbian people. Albright has spearheaded the efforts to make an example of Milosevic by having him handed over to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, capital of the Netherlands, and tried there as a war criminal. But Kostunica implacably opposed having Milosevic or any other prominent Serb tried as a war criminal, no matter how terrible was their conduct during the last nine years of conflict in the fragmented former communist federal state. He also regularly denounced the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia last year as "criminal." This also gave him a popularity credibility all the U.S.-backed opposition figures who did not criticize the bombing lacked. Stephen Zunes, associate professor of politics at the University of San Francisco, said Thursday in a statement, "Change in Eastern Europe has come not from the armed force of NATO but from large-scale nonviolent action of the subjugated peoples themselves. .. If anything, NATO's bombing last year may have set back the growing anti-Milosevic movement." Marjorie Cohn, associate professor at the Thomas Jefferson School of Law in San Diego, Calif., agreed that Kostunica's strong stance against the bombing had contributed greatly to his credibility and popularity in Serbia as a leader who would try and defend them from being subjugated by the NATO alliance, led by the United States. She told Washington's Institute for Public Accuracy on Thursday, "Many people in Yugoslavia oppose Milosevic but they also despise NATO, which subjected them to a ruthless 11-week bombing campaign (in 1999). .. The long term question is who will run Yugoslavia once Milosevic is ousted -- Kostunica or NATO?" Kostunica also flatly opposed granting Kosovo province, with its more than 90 percent Albanian Muslim majority, any independence from
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hoffman Challenges Lieberman Before National Audience
-Caveat Lector- You can help expose Lieberman and Judaism! snip The second printing of "Judaism's Strange Gods" has arrived. $66 buys ten books. $150 buys 25 books (all prices include shipping in the US). "Judaism's Strange Gods" can be circulated to open-minded but until now, misled people--your friends, neighbors, co-workers. Send a money order (personal checks must clear our bank first) to: Independent History, Box 849,Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816. Idaho residents add 5% sales tax. Fax a donation to Hoffman -- by VISA or Master Card (acct. #, exp. date, authorized name, address and amt. donated): 208-777-2612. (Or by mail, see below). Lieberman's Strange Gods: Professionally recorded, two camera video. 57 min. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=88 The opening salvo in Hoffman's nationwide "Lieberman Awareness Campaign. $19.95 plus $3 shipping (foreign send US$26 for this NTSC video). The Religion of Judaism: Parts 1-3. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=87 Three audio-cassettes (includes soundtrack from the above video) in an attractive album with liner notes and color photo of Hoffman on the cover. $19.95 plus $3 shipping (foreign send US$26 for this NTSC VHS video). Judaism's Strange Gods. Softcover, 144 pages. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=83 $11.95 postpaid. (foreign send US$16). So Hoffman's whole point is to sell books and tapes. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Pesticides 'promote dangerous bacteria'
-Caveat Lector- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_956000/956151.stm "New Scientist magazine reports that the researchers, from University of Manitoba in Winnipeg, carried out research after a rise in reported cases of food poisoning caused by fresh produce [and found that bacteria grow better in common pesticides]. "The researchers found that bacteria thrived in around a third of the pesticides. The bugs grew most readily in: the fungicide chlorothalonil, the weedkiller linuron, the insecticides permethrin and chlorpyrifos...numbers could increase one-thousandfold. Salmonella, E. coli and Shigella grew best - particularly on chlorothalonil." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Massive ozone hole over city for first time (link only)
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[CTRL] Feds decide DEFINITELY to use Anthrax against innocent U.S. Citizens
-Caveat Lector- This is sent along for your information and consideration only. I do not necessarily support, believe nor condone this post. In fact, I do not quiet know what to make of it as the memo at the bottom does not mention anthrax. AKE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:50 AM Subject: Feds decide DEFINITELY to use Anthrax against innocent U.S. Citizens (Sent to USCMike1's 43,397+ readers -URGENT! please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups, thanks!) Feds decide DEFINITELY to use Anthrax against innocent U.S. Citizens Dear Citizens, Patriots, Constitutionalists, Veterans, (and this time: the Civilian Militia) et al: Please read the post below about how our U.S. Army will be spraying (probably with fake contrails but actually chemtrails and biotrails) BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AGENTS upon us U.S. Citizens and civilians in a "test" to determine how well biological warfare agents can be dispersed and how well they can work against us Actually, our government and military has been perpetrating biological warfare against us citizens and American Indians ever since our founding fathers created this once great nation. My ancestors are indigenous, native Cherokee Indians and the U.S. Army, in a deceptive gesture of good will, distributed wool blankets to an entire nation of similar Indians in the early days of our nation ( 1754 French-Indian War). Only trouble was that the blankets were contaminated and infected with dried pus and serum from U.S. soldiers who had recently died from the deadly small pox virus. Only a tiny percentage of the Indians (even those who were NOT directly exposed) barely survived, and were scarred and crippled for life - 99% of the victims died because they had never been exposed to such a devastating disease before and had no immunity to it. In about the same way, Americans and Western Europeans infected the Alaskan and Canadian Eskimos with Syphilis. The Spaniards brought small pox and measles to Mexico and Central America in the 16th Century and decimated 30 million Indians, bringing the total number of Indians of the Americas killed by biological warfare to 75 million! The ominous fact today is that in the late 1960s, the federal CDC (Center for Disease Control) determined that small pox had been "eradicated" - wiped out completely throughout the entire world and that we no longer had to be innoculated against it. So now we have two generations of civilians who are imminently susceptable to small pox and other such devastating diseases. Can our government and the United Nations' WHO - World Health Organization, be so asininely presumptuous to think that mankind could ever wipe out any and all of a particular type of pathogenic organism? The only thing that happened was that there were no reportable cases of small pox for a few years. Now it's coming back and nobody is innoculated against it. My God, man, we still have the causative organism, Yersenia pestis, that causes the Black Death or Bubonic Plague that killed 100s of millions of people over the historical span of the human race. In fact, Ventura county just west of Los Angeles county in Southern California has had a continuing and current EPIDEMIC of Bubonic Plague which is endemic in the ground squirrel population, which is carried by fleas in their fur, and the fleas can bite humans and infect them. Families on a picnic can contract the Black Death Plague by merely sitting near a ground squirrel hole where the fleas can hop onto them and bite them. The following post reveals that the U.S. Army generals at Fort Polk Army Base in Louisiana will be releasing a live bacterium, Bacillus subtilus (or Bacillus globigii) in a supposed experiment to attemp to detect a biological agent attack. They emphatically state that this organism is "virtually harmless." "Virtually harmless," oh, yeah, right Notice they say "virtually." Virtually means absolutely NOTHING! Bacillus subtilus causes conjunctivitis, or infections and inflamation of the eyes and eyelids and causes upper respiratory diseases. In fact, I just checked Medscape and Medline on the internet and discovered that there has been a tremendous amount of research using these supposedly "virtually" harmless organisms and they are doing genetic engineering of their DNA. This is to establish what can be done with Bacillus anthracis to make it absolutely untreatable. But that is NOT the half of it!!! No! Not on your life! The reason the feds and the Army are using Bacillus subtilus as an experimental organism to test its delivery, distribution, and infective qualities is because, according to Tabor's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary: "Bacillus subtilus. The common hay bacillus, has close resemblance to Bacillus anthracis." Bacillus anthracis causes the dreaded ANTRAX. Anthrax is what the military is forceably
[CTRL] $78 Million Conflict-of-Interest at AP Bolivia Bureau
-Caveat Lector- Could this be why we get no coverage? - Original Message - From: "Al Giordano" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:14 AM Subject: [narconews] $78 Million Conflict-of-Interest at AP Bolivia Bureau New on Narco News Issue #6 Now On-Line http://www.narconews.com/ Conflict-of-Interest at AP Bolivia Bureau Bolivia AP Correspondent Peter McFarren Violates the APME Code of Ethics McFarren Uses AP to Defend the Banzer Regime as He Lobbies Bolivian Congress for a $78 Million Dollar Water Export Project Correspondent Insists that AP "Knows All About" his Lobbying Activities A Symptom of Deteriorating Standards at AP and Among US Media Correspondents in Latin America Special to The Narco News Bulletin Part I in a series By Al Giordano October 6, 2000 http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html "In this poorest of South American nations, where the "water wars" of last April have now exploded into full scale insurrection throughout Bolivia, Peter McFarren is covering events for the Associated Press (AP) that, through his unethical activity, he helped to provoke. "AP's Bolivia correspondent, instead of covering today's historic news events, is covering them up. "The Narco News Bulletin has learned that on September 14, 2000, just days before recent protests exploded into nationwide road blockades - by social movements that have now united and paralyzed the country - Peter McFarren made a presentation in the hall of the federal Senate. "There, McFarren lobbied the Bolivian Senate as a representative of the "Corporación Boliviana de Recursos Hidricos, S.A." or COBOREH, the Bolivian Hydro-Resources Corporation. "McFarren offered a slide show for government officials, urging them to support the $78 million dollar private industry plan. COBOREH seeks permission to export 3,000 liters-per-second of Bolivian water to mulitinational copper mining companies in neighboring Chile..." Full Report at: http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html Stay Tuned for Next Message on what YOU can do about this abuse of journalistic power. Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Memo to Civil Society
-Caveat Lector- Again, FYI. - Original Message - From: "Al Giordano" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:20 AM Subject: [narconews] Memo to Civil Society Memo to Civil Society: The new report on Narco News reveals just how corrupted that the US media has become in Latin America: http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html What Can Be Done About Corrupted US Journalism in Latin America? 1. Join the Discussion at the APME web site: http://www.apme.com/forum/home.shtml (NOTE: JOURNALISTS ARE NOTORIOUSLY THIN-SKINNED. PLEASE, WHEN COMMENTING ON THE AP EDITORS WEB SITE, OR WRITING TO APME OFFICIALS, BE COURTEOUS BUT CLEAR IN YOUR MESSAGE. DON'T HARRASS THEM. EDUCATE THEM.) 2. Write to the APME officers: President: Jerry Ceppos, vice president/news, Knight Ridder; (408) 938-7830; fax: (408) 938-7766; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice President: Chris Peck, editor, Spokesman-Review, Spokane; (509) 459-5423, fax (509) 459-5482, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secretary: Caesar Andrews, editor, Gannett News Service; (703) 276- 5898; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Treasurer, David B. Offer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, Journalism Studies: Ed Jones, editor, The Free Lance-Star, Fredericksburg, Va.; (540) 374-5401, fax (540) 373-8455, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice Chair, Journalism Studies: Paula LaRocque, assistant managing editor, Dallas Morning News; (214) 977-8770; fax: (214) 977-8164; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Seek Alternate Routes to Factual Reporting from Latin America Subscribe to the Narco News Group to Receive Fresh Reports on the Drug War from Latin America The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ Daily Press Briefings from Latin America http://www.narconews.com/pressbriefing.html Write and tell us what you think of this story: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Narco News Bulletin Constructing an International Pipeline for the Facts To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hoffman Challenges Lieberman Before National Audience
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove, Sure looks that way. Of course, disinformation being the subject, maybe it is not his WHOLE purpose. I wonder if writings were taken out of context from, oh, say the Spanish Inquisition, Christianity would not also look rather intolerant of others. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hoffman Challenges Lieberman Before National Audience -Caveat Lector- You can help expose Lieberman and Judaism! snip The second printing of "Judaism's Strange Gods" has arrived. $66 buys ten books. $150 buys 25 books (all prices include shipping in the US). "Judaism's Strange Gods" can be circulated to open-minded but until now, misled people--your friends, neighbors, co-workers. Send a money order (personal checks must clear our bank first) to: Independent History, Box 849,Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816. Idaho residents add 5% sales tax. Fax a donation to Hoffman -- by VISA or Master Card (acct. #, exp. date, authorized name, address and amt. donated): 208-777-2612. (Or by mail, see below). Lieberman's Strange Gods: Professionally recorded, two camera video. 57 min. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=88 The opening salvo in Hoffman's nationwide "Lieberman Awareness Campaign. $19.95 plus $3 shipping (foreign send US$26 for this NTSC video). The Religion of Judaism: Parts 1-3. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=87 Three audio-cassettes (includes soundtrack from the above video) in an attractive album with liner notes and color photo of Hoffman on the cover. $19.95 plus $3 shipping (foreign send US$26 for this NTSC VHS video). Judaism's Strange Gods. Softcover, 144 pages. http://www.hoffman-info.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?item=83 $11.95 postpaid. (foreign send US$16). So Hoffman's whole point is to sell books and tapes. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION ORDERED BY COURT TO TURN OVER DOCUMENTS IN PORTALS SCANDAL CASE
-Caveat Lector- Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: [JW: CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION ORDERED BY COURT TO TURN OVER DOCUMENTS IN PORTALS SCANDAL CASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE October 5, 2000 Contact: Tom Fitton (202) 646-5172 CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION ORDERED BY COURT TO TURN OVER DOCUMENTS IN PORTALS SCANDAL CASE Clinton Appointee Rules Against Administration on Document Request Related to Gore Scandal Portals Real Estate Project Benefitted Gore Fundraisers, Hurt Taxpayers (Washington, DC) The Honorable Ricardo M. Urbina, U.S. District Court Judge, ruled last week that the Clinton-Gore Administration must waive fees and turn over to Judicial Watch documents relating to a controversial government leasing arrangement that benefitted individuals close to Al Gore. In response to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on the Portals leasing controversy, the General Services Administration had sought to make Judicial Watch pay for thousands of documents before turning them over and sought to summarily dismiss a FOIA lawsuit Judicial Watch brought to obtain the documents. Judge Urbina ruled in favor of Judicial Watch. Publically available evidence suggests that Gore confidants benefitted, at the expense of taxpayers, from million dollar contingency fees in a lease deal between the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Portals Washington, DC office project, which is run by another Gore supporter. Without expressing any opinion on the underlying merits of the allegations, Judge Urbina ruled on September 25, 2000, that, among other things: ...the court agrees that the (Judicial Watch) FOIA request... implicates important public interests. To begin with, federal taxpayers paid for the FCC's lease of the vacant Portals office space, which gives the public a direct and tangible interest in information bearing on the lease and the events surrounding it. Specifically, the public has an interest in information which could help them decide whether an agency's expenditure of their tax monies was based on sound financial or functional considerations or on other, arguably less appropriate considerations...Closely related is the fundamental public interest in information bearing on the alleged possibility that the Vice President and others violated legal or ethical standards in connection with the FCC-Portals lease. Neither of these interests is peculiar to the plaintiffs or their supporters. (emphasis added) "The decision by Judge Urbina is a significant victory for not only Judicial Watch, but for the American taxpayer. We are hopeful we can get to the heart of a scandal that some estimate cost the U.S. taxpayer tens of millions of dollars in unneeded costs - all, allegedly, to benefit a small group of Gore cronies," stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. Judicial Watch, Inc. is a public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Debate Window Sizes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- They are always 'messing with our minds"! Subject: [CTRL] Debate Window Sizes (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:23:15 -0700 From: Ray Heizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debate Window Sizes I've forgotten the thread name which raised this point, but I _did_ record the debate (FoxNews channel) and finally got around to looking at the question of the relative window sizes of Gore and Bush when they were side-by-side. I do not know if all channels got the same feed, but at least the feed that came via FoxNews had a noticably larger window size for Gore ... specifically about 11% wider (i.e. 88 vs 79 mm (+/- 1mm) on my small screen TV here on my desk). There is a single pixel dead center at the top of my screen. This provides another way to look at it. The Gore window extends to within about 3 pixels of the centerline and the Bush window extends to within about 12 pixels of the centerline. The veritcal heights of the two windows are identical. --end-- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:19:23 -0700 From: Scott Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ray Heizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Debate Window Sizes Ray, Thanks for the quantitation. The original qualitative commentary was in the thread where we aired our impression that Gore had consumed way more than his fair share of airtime, what with all his interruptions and gimme-another-turns. Not to mention his sighs and groans and other Goreasmic histrionics, which inserted his smarmy self into Bush's timeslots. It was my impression while watching that Gore's pane was about 10% or so wider. A Freeper went and measured it and came up with 10%, jibing quite well with your 11%. Might depend on the network, but now there's no doubt: Gore was allowed to dominate the *screen* too, and this is not due to his pushiness, this is entirely the director's doing, real-time. --Scott J. --end-- On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Scott Jordan wrote: Lookie here: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39dd0486638c.htm "Britt Hume, main news anchor for Fox News just stated that [paraphrased] 'an analysis of CNN news coverage of the debates reveals they showed Gore's image larger than Bush..' There's another FR thread referenced too. --Scott A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Supreme Court Victimless Crimes
-Caveat Lector- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org === For release: October 5, 2000 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Should police have the power to handcuff and jail people who don't wear seatbelts? WASHINGTON, DC -- The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear five cases this session that involve the power of police to stop, search, and arrest you for drug and seatbelt violations -- proving that such "victimless crimes" are now the driving force behind the assault on our Constitutionally protected liberties, the Libertarian Party said today. "If police win the right to haul you off in handcuffs for not wearing a seatbelt, scan your house at whim with a thermal imaging gun, and set up random roadblocks so dogs can sniff your car for drugs then victimless crimes will be to blame," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "These are the issues the Supreme Court will decide this term - - - and every one of these frightening expansions of police power is being justified by so-called crimes that have no victims. The War on Victimless Crimes has turned into an all-out War on the Bill of Rights." Starting this week, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear five major cases to determine whether law enforcement has the right to stop, search, test, restrain, and arrest people to enforce drug and seatbelt laws. The cases include: * Indianapolis vs. Edmond, which will decide whether police can set up random roadblocks on public streets to question motorists and use drug-sniffing dogs to inspect their vehicles. * Ferguson vs. Charleston, which will decide whether hospitals can secretly test pregnant women for cocaine, and turn the results over to police. * Illinois vs. McArthur, which will decide whether police can restrain people from entering their homes while police are seeking a warrant to search the premises for drugs. * Atwater vs. Lago Vista, which will decide whether people can be handcuffed and hauled off to jail for not wearing a seatbelt. * Kyllo vs. United States, which will determine whether police can scan homes with a thermal imaging gun, searching for heat patterns that may indicate a marijuana-growing operation. What do all these cases have in common? They all seek a dramatic expansion of police power and they all involves "crimes" where there is no victim, noted Dasbach. "The criminal justice debate is no longer about what is permissible when catching violent criminals like murderers, rapists, and robbers -- it's now about how far law enforcement can go in violating the Fourth Amendment to catch people who harm no one but themselves," he said. The cases being heard by the Supreme Court are not an unexpected side-effect of victimless crime laws, but a natural consequence, said Dasbach. "There's a reason why police aren't setting up random roadblocks to find people who have been the victims of robbery or a violent crime," he said."In those kinds of cases, people go to the police to seek justice. But with drug and seatbelt laws, there is no victim to complain -- just people engaging in consensual behavior that harms no one but themselves. "As a result, law enforcement must engage in police-state behavior to catch the so-called criminals. To combat victimless crimes, police use sting operations, paid informers, anonymous tips, no-knock raids, warrantless searches, and high-tech surveillance. Their impulse is to always push the boundaries of the Fourth Amendment -- until they begin to routinely violate everyone's privacy and rights." It's that last aspect that should be most troubling to Americans, said Dasbach, even to people who don't use drugs or violate seatbelt laws. "When police set up a random roadblock, a hundred innocent people are inconvenienced and threatened for every one person who is arrested," he said. "Your Constitutional rights are violated, your freedom is limited, and your safety is diminished -- just so police can catch a few individuals who engage in peaceful behavior the government has criminalized." These five cases give the Supreme Court an opportunity to draw a "line in the sand" about how far law enforcement can go to fight victimless crimes, said Dasbach. "The Supreme Court has an opportunity to decide what kind of country we will live in," he said. "Will it be an America where any violation of the Bill of Rights is justified in the name of a War on Victimless Crimes? Or will it be an America where ordinary people can live in freedom, privacy, and
[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] $78 Million Conflict-of-Interest at AP Bolivia Bureau
New on Narco News Issue #6 Now On-Line http://www.narconews.com/ Conflict-of-Interest at AP Bolivia Bureau Bolivia AP Correspondent Peter McFarren Violates the APME Code of Ethics McFarren Uses AP to Defend the Banzer Regime as He Lobbies Bolivian Congress for a $78 Million Dollar Water Export Project Correspondent Insists that AP "Knows All About" his Lobbying Activities A Symptom of Deteriorating Standards at AP and Among US Media Correspondents in Latin America Special to The Narco News Bulletin Part I in a series By Al Giordano October 6, 2000 http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html "In this poorest of South American nations, where the "water wars" of last April have now exploded into full scale insurrection throughout Bolivia, Peter McFarren is covering events for the Associated Press (AP) that, through his unethical activity, he helped to provoke. "AP's Bolivia correspondent, instead of covering today's historic news events, is covering them up. "The Narco News Bulletin has learned that on September 14, 2000, just days before recent protests exploded into nationwide road blockades - by social movements that have now united and paralyzed the country - Peter McFarren made a presentation in the hall of the federal Senate. "There, McFarren lobbied the Bolivian Senate as a representative of the "Corporación Boliviana de Recursos Hidricos, S.A." or COBOREH, the Bolivian Hydro-Resources Corporation. "McFarren offered a slide show for government officials, urging them to support the $78 million dollar private industry plan. COBOREH seeks permission to export 3,000 liters-per-second of Bolivian water to mulitinational copper mining companies in neighboring Chile..." Full Report at: http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html Stay Tuned for Next Message on what YOU can do about this abuse of journalistic power. Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: There is nothing in Law which would permit what the governments have been doing, incrementally, over the past many years, even if the International Bankers and collusive corporations have been encouraging or aiding and abetting their diabolical action
From: "barrie konicov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 19:46:12 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2000 19:46:12.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[40B07A30:01C02BE0] Subject: The Loophole Papers #1 of 7 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] One individual communicating truth with conviction is a majority The Loophole Papers #1 By Barrie Leslie Konicov http:///www.thepotentialsunlimited.com The purpose of The Loophole Papers is to expose the loopholes in the Constitution, the Law, and the IRS Code that make it possible for most people to keep all the money they earn. Think about This If you want to work for the government for free, do. But if you are forced to work for the government for free that is slavery. If you want to give your money to the government, do. But if you are forced to give your money to the government that is involuntary servitude. Under our system of government: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. "The Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution, Proposed January 31, 1865; declared Ratified, December l8, l865. In specifically making "slavery and involuntary servitude" unconstitutional the Constitution allows voluntary slavery or voluntary servitude, why? I'll give you the reason in a later issue of The Loophole Papers. But I would rather you think about it for a day or two and tell me what you think is the reason. The IRS is Telling the Truth! "Our tax system is based upon individual self-assessment and voluntary compliance." Mortimer Coplin, IRS Commissioner, Internal Revenue Audit Manual, l975. " it is a reminder that government in a free country can only be financed through voluntary compliance " Internal Revenue Commissioner, l040 Booklet, l991 "The mission of the service (IRS) is to encourage and achieve the highest possible degree of voluntary compliance with the tax laws and regulations " the Congressional Record, March 25, 1974 If you know where to look, the IRS code even says it is not law. "Section 7806(b). Arrangement and Classification.- No inference, implication, or presumption of legislative construction shall be drawn or made by reason of the location or grouping of any particular section, or provision or portion of this title, nor shall any table of contents, table of cross references, or similar outline, analysis, or descriptive matter relating to the contents of this title be given any legal effect. The preceding sentence also applies to the sidenotes and ancillary tables contained in the various prints of this Act before its enactment into law." Want further proof that the IRS Code is not law? Drop in on your local library and ask directions to the United States Codes. In the flyleaf of every volume you will find a listing by titles of the 50 US Codes. Those that are positive law through the states and get their authority from the Constitution are clearly marked. Those existing without Constitutional authority are called prima facie. Meaning they act, look, and smell like law until you learn they are not. You can also review and download the pages I am referring to by going to http://www.thepotentialsunlimited.com/loophole.htm. Clearly, Title 26 the IRS Code, is not law in the fifty united States. You can also review the Here is something that you must remember, beginning now. Because the IRS Code is not law, in dealing with the IRS, the law does not matter, only the code. So don't go stomping on an IRS agent telling them that the code is not law. First they will not believe you. And second it makes no difference to them. The loophole to get yourself out of the maze is coming right up. But first, here is what the Supreme Court has to say about our tax system. "Our tax system is based upon voluntary assessment and payment, not upon distraint." The United States Supreme Court Bothke vs. Terry, 713 F2d 1405, l983 The word "distraint" means force. You see, if you are forced to work for the government for free, or forced to give the government your money, that changes voluntary to involuntary and freedom becomes "slavery or involuntary servitude." Now you know why government does not have the authority to pass a law saying your money belongs to them. Besides, it doesn't need a law to collect your money, because you have volunteered to, just like the IRS said. In future issues of The Loophole Papers you will discover the loophole that will allow you to keep all the money you earn. The Loophole Papers are a creation of the mind of Barrie Leslie Konicov, author and voice of Potentials Unlimited, Subliminal Persuasion, Self-hypnosis tapes and is
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] RE: MN
Mike Ruppert's latest FTW has a "wow" insight into PROMIS in case you haven't seen it. I consider it very important. Everything he says about the ability of PROMIS combined with Artifical Intelligence is chilling. If you haven't seen it, take a look at the paper I wrote for the International Committee of the Red Cross for their symposium in 1996. It is available for free download at my site www.deepblacklies.co.uk - just click the "Feature articles" link and scroll down to the heading "Some Aspects of Anti Personnel Electromagnetic Weapons." The ICRC considered this of sufficient importance that they gave it to Swiss TV who made a documentary based on some of the information the report contained. David THE SECRET GOLD TREATY exposes many of the darkest secrets that the financial elite prayed would never be made public. It unveils the shocking truth about gold looted during WWII and how immense quantities of this black market gold has been used as a secret funding back-bone for the CIA during the cold war. The books reveals the hidden history surrounding the ouster of Indonesia's President Sukarno and lays bare the reason behind Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos's sudden flight from office. THE SECRET GOLD TREATY takes you behind the black curtain of deniable covert operations and financial intrigue by banking cartels and powerful organisations of the financial elite. Above all, THE SECRET GOLD TREATY lays bare the most artfully protected secret of them all... that gold is not at all rare! BUY your copy today by visiting: http://www.solari.com/goldtreaty/ - Original Message - From: Dave Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Roger Bunn' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Michael Novick' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dave Hartley' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] RE: MN It's pretty much impossible to "prove" what Echelon could/couldn't do. If the Generals in Rangoon (Burma) weren't paying the proper respect (in cash or other valuables) to the C.riminals I.nfesting A.merica, doesn't it seem likely they would've been "destabilized" or whatever LONG ago? PERSONAL OPINIONS follow (lots of reading/research went into it, but UN-proveable) - Echelon can and does filter *all* communication that goes thru satellites fiber optic /or wire cable, bringing messages to the attention of human agency on the basis of key-phrases, words, names, recipients, senders, etc. Same as you'd carefully construct a detailed search using an internet search engine's "advanced" features.. boolean variables, "and-ing, OR-ing," "stemming," vicinity of search terms to others, date, time, anything you could think of. "Flagged" messages would be routed to the person or agency as indicated by WHOEVER is in control of the network- presumably the biggest baddest DRUG SMUGGLERS themselves... PROMIS software in conjunction with ECHELON intelligence is capable of tracking any/all large financial transactions. (period.) "black science" in computing is probably advanced to the point where encryption of any type is like hanging a sign on your ass saying "kick me" We're living out the goddam science fiction I read as a teen. We need to allow for the idea that whoever may fall into drug use may just be prison fodder in the Drug War, just as Colombian "peasants" are cannon fodder, just as Burmese Triangle area hill country tribes people are enslaved by various means, just as Vietnamese Laotians by the thousands were used up to feed Drug War. Unless/until DECRIMINALIZATION can be accomplished in the face of FANATICAL/INSANE full-on black-ops with practically unlimited funding DERIVED FROM prohibition/criminalization, Drug War, defense-budget, military contractors, prison contractors, etc - I don't see the end in sight. Dave Hartley, Senior VP http://www.earthcomp.com Asheville Computer-][- Tri-Cities Computer 86 N. Lexington Ave. -][- 200 W. Oakland Ave. Asheville, NC 28801 -][- Johnson City, TN 37604 toll-free (877) 245-2626 -][- toll-free (877) 245-3362 local (828) 285-0240 -][- local (423) 952-0983 http://www.asheville-computer.com/ === -Original Message- From: Roger I am getting hint after hint from "people" here, that Echelon is now being used against drug traffickers. What I want to know, if this is true, is how high up the chain this machine monitors. The Generals in Rangoon have enough secret bank accounts to paper my living room. Can Echelon track those, will it track those?
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Riady Invites Clinton to Lippo Board
Jackson Stevens is building a nice little team with General Wesley Clark joining the board. The dilemma will be whether Clark salutes or shakes hands when his former Chief enters the room? Maybe neither, since all their hands will be too full of illicit money plundered from the US taxpayer to bother with such arcane and unnecessary social niceties. __ THE SECRET GOLD TREATY exposes many of the darkest secrets that the financial elite prayed would never be made public. It unveils the shocking truth about gold looted during WWII and how immense quantities of this black market gold has been used as a secret funding back-bone for the CIA during the cold war. The books reveals the hidden history surrounding the ouster of Indonesia's President Sukarno and lays bare the reason behind Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos's sudden flight from office. THE SECRET GOLD TREATY takes you behind the black curtain of deniable covert operations and financial intrigue by banking cartels and powerful organisations of the financial elite. Above all, THE SECRET GOLD TREATY lays bare the most artfully protected secret of them all... that gold is not at all rare! BUY your copy today by visiting: http://www.solari.com/goldtreaty/ - Original Message - From: Dave Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cia-Drugs (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:31 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Riady Invites Clinton to Lippo Board Dave Hartley, Senior VP http://www.earthcomp.com Asheville Computer-][- Tri-Cities Computer 86 N. Lexington Ave. -][- 200 W. Oakland Ave. Asheville, NC 28801 -][- Johnson City, TN 37604 toll-free (877) 245-2626 -][- toll-free (877) 245-3362 local (828) 285-0240 -][- local (423) 952-0983 http://www.asheville-computer.com/ === Far Eastern Economic Review Intelligence Oct 12 issue Riady Invites Clinton to Lippo Board Indonesian tycoon James Riady has invited U.S. President Bill Clinton to join the board of Lippo Group when he steps down from office early next year, according to business people who have met Riady in Jakarta recently. Riady has been telling business contacts in Jakarta that he expects Clinton to accept, even though the U.S. president has been dogged by allegations that Riady funnelled illegal foreign donations to Clinton's 1992 and 1996 election campaigns. A former Lippo Group employee reports that as far back as the mid-1990's Riady was said to be trying to recruit Clinton to the board as soon as he left office. Jakarta police are currently helping the U.S. Justice Department in its investigation of the alleged campaign contributions.
[CTRL] OEN 10/6/00
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Another Roadside Attraction Princess Di Shrine Moving to Vegas The British Royal Family craps out. LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Harrods in Las Vegas? I say, chaps, that might sound a bit fanciful, but sources familiar to the situation say that casino giants MGM Mirage and Mandalay Resort Group are in talks to bring a branch of the legendary upscale retailer to the Las Vegas Strip. MGM Mirage spokesman Alan Feldman declined to confirm the talks, and Mandalay President and Chief Financial Officer Glenn Schaeffer would only say that his company "had initial discussions" with the retailer owned by Mohamed Al Fayed, whose son Dodi was killed by the Aug. 31, 1997 Paris car crash that also claimed the life of his lover, Princess Diana. If talks are successful, the store would be the first U.S. branch of Harrods, which occupies a full city block in London's fashionable Knightsbridge district and sells everything from cashmere sweaters to best bacon and tea. Feldman confirmed that former Mirage Resorts chief Steve Wynn, whose company was purchased in June by MGM Grand Inc. to form MGM Mirage, previously talked with Al Fayed about bringing a Harrods to his Belagio resort. "Nothing came of it," said Feldman, who previously worked for Wynn at Mirage Resorts. "It wasn't the right time for Harrods, so we moved in different directions." A source familiar with the situation said Mandalay and MGM both began new discussions more recently, probably within the last year, to see if Al Fayed was still interested in locating on the Strip. Harrods has branch shops at various airports around the world, including Frankfurt and Singapore. If a deal is reached with Mandalay Bay, it would put the upscale store in its proposed mega-mall on land between its Luxor and Mandalay Bay resorts, said Mandalay spokesman John Marz. It was not immediately clear where MGM Mirage might put a Harrods if it struck an agreement. The gaudy, neon-lit Strip has become a magnet for upscale retail shops in recent years, following the development of such swanky venues as the Forum Shops at Caesars Palace, and other upscale shops at Belagio, the Venetian and Mandalay Bay. The newest arrival on the Strip is Desert Passage, a 500,000-square-foot mega-mall that opened last month in front of the new Aladdin. However, Desert Passage is not in the running for Harrods, said spokesman Paul Beirnes. "Whoever gets it, it's going to be a great coup for Las Vegas because they're just truly an all-star player when it comes to retail," Beirnes said. "As long as the new retailers and restaurateurs coming to Las Vegas are of this calibre, the whole city is really going to benefit." Harrods announced last July that it was cutting its ties with the royal family, saying they did not spend enough there. It said it would pull down the Queen's and Prince Charles's warrants to supply goods from its storefront at the end of the summer, and would not seek their renewal when they expire late next year. Prince Philip has already withdrawn his own Harrods warrant after owner Al Fayed accused him of masterminding the deaths of Dodi and Diana in the car crash. "No (Royal Household) purchases have been made since December 1997 and in these circumstances it would be totally inappropriate for Harrods to apply for the renewal of the royal warrants," Harrods said in a statement. "Since neither the Queen nor Prince Charles have shopped in Harrods for several years, displaying the royal crest would be totally misleading and hypocritical," it added. Reuters, October 5, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe
[CTRL] frontline: apocalypse!: apocalypticism explained
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/jerusalem .html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/jer usalem.html"frontline: apocalypse!: apocalypticism explaine /A - Tabor is a professor in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. (more about Tabor)When you open the Book of Daniel or the Book of Revelation and read them, there's absolutely no question that the stage is the ancient land of Israel, with the capital of Jerusalem. All the scenarios absolutely center on this, if read literally. ... When fundamentalist Christians read the Bible in the 20th century, something has been fundamentally changed, just in the last 50 years in particular. And that is, they're able to open texts for the first time in 2,000 years--texts like Revelation, texts like the Book of Daniel, all the prophets--and they can begin to see the possibilities of a literal fulfillment, not a symbolic fulfillment as in the past. That is, Jerusalem would mean Jerusalem. The Jewish people would mean literally the Zionists and the Jewish state that now exists. ... In June 1967, at the conclusion of the Six Day War, the Israelis found themselves, for the first time in 2,000 years, in control of the Old City of Jerusalem. Jews could go to the wall and pray. There was this euphoric sense of victory and even survival after this war, from just a Jewish point of view, from an Israeli point of view. jerusalem Christians, however, who were fundamentalist interpreters of the Bible, had a completely different take on this. It's quite interesting. Not only did they laud and applaud the Jewish sovereignty, but they understood this as the beginning of the end, as a potential fulfillment of Bible prophecy, because in fact every scenario that you can read about in the prophets, from the Book of Revelation back to the Book of Daniel, implies that in the last days Jerusalem would be ruled and controlled not by Turks, not by British, not by all the various cultures that have controlled Jerusalem for the centuries, but by, in fact, a sovereign Jewish population. And so in fact, this was true again. Now, the big event that these interpreters were waiting for would be the rebuilding of the Temple, the so-called Third Temple. One of the strangest and most unusual symbiotic relationships that has developed from the Six Day War is that fundamentalist Jews and fundamentalist Christians have something in common. You would not expect this to happen. But after 1967, with Israeli control over the holy places, and the Temple Mount in particular, here we have a double interest. On the one hand, we have fundamentalist Jews who believe that the destiny and future of Judaism and of the Jewish people is the rebuilding of the Temple up where the Dome of the Rock is, where the mosque is. Now, why would Christians be interested in this? Traditionally, Christians have had no interest in the Jewish Temple. And this is what we've seen develop just in our time. When Christians read the Book of Revelation, they read about a figure coming into Jerusalem from the outside and occupying Jerusalem, and in fact, sitting in a temple of God, claiming to be God, stopping the Jewish sacrifices. And so it's a simple matter of literal reasoning. If in fact the world is going to end, if Jesus is going to come back, if these things are going to happen, we have to have a temple. And so we have Christians interested in seeing that the Temple is built, in some cases even willing to raise funds and even pay for this to be built. Gershon Solomon, who is one of the most vocal advocates of rebuilding the Temple, does much of his speaking not at synagogues, when he comes to the United States, but in Christian churches. He draws thousands of people that want to hear the latest news about the potential rebuilding of the Temple on the Temple Mount. And so it is one of the strangest things, I think, that we've seen develop in our own lifetime. For more on the Third Temple movement and the relationship between Christian prophecy believers and Israel, read Lawrence Wright's New Yorker article "Forcing the End," and "How Christian Evangelicals Became Israel's Best Friend" from Christianity Today. One of the prerequisites for building this Third Temple is not only Israeli sovereignty over the city of Jerusalem, as we've seen since 1967, but a very strange rite in the Hebrew Bible, the Book of Numbers, where a red heifer is to be produced and then sacrificed and burnt into ashes. And these ashes are used to purify, mixed with water. Until this is done, the Orthodox rabbis in Jerusalem will tell you, there can be no Third Temple. Now, you would expect this to be a very Jewish kind of an affair. What do rabbis know about cattle raising? In fact, we've had reports in Israel of Israelis raising cattle, trying to produce this red heifer. "Red heifer" refers to the
[CTRL] The Second Coming Project
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.clonejesus.com/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.clonejesus.com/"The Second Coming Project/A - The Second Coming Project The Second Coming Project is a not-for-profit organization devoted to bringing about the Second Coming of Our Lord, Jesus Christ, as prophesied in the Bible, in time for the 2,000th anniversary of his birth. Our intention is to clone Jesus, utilizing techniques pioneered at the Roslin Institute in Scotland, by taking an incorrupt cell from one of the many Holy Relics of Jesus' blood and body that are preserved in churches throughout the world, extracting its DNA, and inserting into an unfertilized human egg (oocyte), through the now-proven biological process called nuclear transfer. The fertilized egg, now the zygote of Jesus Christ, will be implanted into the womb of a young virginal woman (who has volunteered of her own accord), who will then bring the baby Jesus to term in a second Virgin Birth. If all goes according to plan, the birth will take place on December 25, 2001, thus making Anno Domini 2001 into Anno Domini Novi 1, and all calendrical calculations will begin anew. How Can This Be Possible? a. Modern cloning technology enables us to clone any large mammal - including humans - using just a single cell from an adult specimen. b. Throughout the Christian world are churches that contain Holy Relics of Jesus' body: his blood, his hair, his foreskin. Unless every single one of these relics is a fake, this means that cells from Jesus' body still survive to this day. c. We are already making preparations to obtain a portion of one of these relics, extract the DNA from one of its cells, and use it to clone Jesus. No longer can we rely on hope and prayer, waiting around futilely for Jesus to return. We have the technology to bring him back right now: there is no reason, moral, legal or Biblical, not to take advantage of it. IN ORDER TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SIN, WE MUST CLONE JESUS TO INITIATE THE SECOND COMING OF THE CHRIST. The Second Coming Project is soliciting contributions and donations to help us is our quest. Time is short! We must have a fertilized Jesus zygote no later than April of 2001 if Baby Jesus is to come to term on the predicted date. Please send all contributions to: The Second Coming Project P.O. Box 295 Berkeley, CA 94701 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bolivia Makes Secret Offer to Coca Growers:
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.narconews.com/pressbriefing.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.narconews.com/pressbriefing.html"Narco News: Reporting on the Events that Shake /A - The Narco News Bulletin "The Name of Our Country is América" -- Simón Bolívar Today's Press Briefing October 5, 2000 7:41 p.m. Update Below: Government Claims Deal Set Bolivia Makes Secret Offer to Coca Growers: 400 Sqare Meters Per Family Growers Demand Double, Blockades Rage On State Makes New Ultimatum to Social Forces A Narco News October 4 Commentary Predicted: "Read between the lines of the US and Bolivian government statements. The only way they can end the unrest is to allow peasant families to grow a small amount of coca per family. As US officials micro-manage the situation from afar.. they are finessing the bottom line: coca growing may be decriminalized for small scale producers. In other words, harm reduction in Bolivia. And yet the governments, rather than trumpet such a move as progress, will instead go to all lengths to claim it didn't happen. This, of course, is only one possible outcome of these earthshaking events" What we predicted on Tuesday became a governmental offer on Wednesday. According to the daily La Razon in La Paz, State negotiators contacted coca-grower leaders by telephone to make the behind the scenes offer. Here is the report from La Razon today, and other fast-breaking news from Bolivia. From the daily La Razon, La Paz, Bolivia Thursday, October 5, 2000: "Secret" Negotiation Between the Coca Growers and the Government Fails COCHABAMBA (LA RAZÓN).- With the most absolute reserve and via telephone, the Government proposed to the coca growers the eradication of coca crops over 400 square meters (20 by 20 meters) per family, as an option to solve the conflict that has paralyzed Cochabamba for more than three weeks. The proposal was made by state governor José Orías, by telephone, yesterday morning to coca growers leader Evo Morales, who is in Chapare. The information was known by government sources, union leaders and coca growers. Unofficially, it was known that the congressman and coca growers leader responded that the minimum acceptable crop per family would be half of one cato, that is to say, about 800 square meters of crops per each coca growing family. A peaceful solution to the conflict was made possible if the Government suspends the forced eradication of coca gardens and leaves more than 1,900 hectares intact that have not been destroyed. Morales did not want to speak of the government proposal, but admitted that he received a phone call not just from a government representative, but also from the commander of the Seventh Division of the Army, General José Antonio Gil. The coca growers leader did not offer details of the conversation, but admitted that on the part of both parties there is now more will to come to an agreement and impeded a new confrontation. Morales said that the proposal by his sector of one catu per family would foster a social control by the coca growing peasants themselves and would also be a more effective way to combat against drug trafficking. "Every end of the year this measure would be applied and any family that cultivated more would lose all its production," he said, later adding that it would be the very same coca growers then helping in the fight against drug trafficking. The proposal by the government also avoided that the Coordinating Committee of the social movement escalated their pressure tactics, according to its leaders, in a display "of support for dialogue and in the interests of sol ving the conflict." Morales spoke with representatives of the Coordinating Committee not only about the option of maintaining the blockades, but also to consider the proposal made by Orías as "serious"... However, at around 8 p.m., in a new phone call to the coca growers leader, the Government rejected the counter-proposal of this sector and continued with its policy of "zero coca." Orías declared that he had not spoken at any moment with the coca growers leader Evo Morales and said the Government had neither offered any proposal. "Maximum Red Alert" The clock runs against the government. Every day that passes the economy deteriorates more. Other problems are generated by the conflict. The negotiations advance but at a tortoise's pace. A new deadline imposed by the Executive Branch over the explosion of social revolt. The coalition is thinking about adding new tactics to the conflict this morning, but first will expend all effort to find solutions. The government minister, Guillermo Fortún, explained that the negotiations can not last much longer because producers and consumers cannot continue living under the current situation. And the situation is dramatic. The businessmen shout in Santa Cruz. Hunger strikes are begun. The soldiers are tired. The sleep temporarily in those moments when it rains in
[CTRL] THE BACKLASH AGAINST GLOBALIZATION
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/trialog/trlgtxts/t54/ber.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/trialog/trlgtxts/t54/ber.htm"THE BACKLASH AGAINST GLOBALIZATION/A - The Backlash Against Globalization C. Fred Bergsten The following remarks were made by C. Fred Bergsten to the 2000 annual meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Tokyo. C. Fred Bergsten is Director of the Institute for International Economics and a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs. When the Trilateral Commission was set up in 1973, my memory is that it was primarily aimed at addressing two issues. One was the integration of a great new Asian power into the world economy and world sceneJapan. The second was to deal with a perceived breakdown of the world economic order of the day: the collapse of the Bretton Woods system of fixed exchange rates and the outbreak of protectionist actions and protectionist legislative pressures in the United States. In addition, the oil shocks were just around the corner. In short, the world economic order was in doubt. I believe that the Trilateral world faces very similar challenges today. There is clearly the entry into the world economy and broader scene of a great new Asian powerChina. That is not my topic today, but it is crucial and the Commission will have to deal with it. But my topic is the second set of issues, what I believe is another set of threats to prosperity and stability of the world economy, namely, the backlash against globalization. A Fundamental Challenge The pressures in the 1970s were very substantial but they were mainly technical and they had technical fixes. We could move from fixed to flexible exchange rates; we could initiate a new round of global trade negotiations to get the liberalizing momentum going again. Even in response to the oil crises, which took longer, market responses plus new institutional initiativesfor instance, the International Energy Agency and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in the U.S.of essentially a technical nature were taken. The world economy today faces a more fundamental set of challenges because the backlash against globalization is much more than economic. As Henry Kissinger frequently reminds us, there is a huge political dimension and the politics and the economics are often out of synch. As Mario Vargas Llosa reminds us, there is also a huge cultural dimension which raises a mass of contentious and difficult issues of their own. Now the backlash has been manifest in the demonstrations in Seattle, Davos, Bangkok, and in Washington this coming weekend. Demonstrations highlight the importance of the NGOs, which is an important part of the issue. But, in my view, the demonstrations themselves are only superficial signs of the real issue. The real backlash, the real challenge to globalization, is much more substantive; we have seen it arising not just in the last few months but over a series of years. I believe it is the critical issue of multilateral management for the future with which this Commission ought to concern itself. Multilateral Finance and Trade Regimes at Risk The backlash obviously takes different forms in different regions and different countries. But there are several patterns within the international finance and trade regimes that one can tick off. First, it is clear that we have an international monetary system that is crisis-prone. We have had at least three major sets of crises in the last decade alone: the European crisis of the early 90s; the Latin American crisis emanating from Mexico in the mid 90s; the East Asian crisis spilling over into Russia and Brazil in the last two or three years. Private capital flows can de-stabilizebeing too big at one time and too little at anotherand there has been a failure to put in place any substantial reforms to improve the prospect for stabilizing the system in the future. Indeed, we have serious proposals in the United States from a Congressional commission recently, on which I happen to have led the dissent, which essentially wants to abolish the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and there are significant pockets of support for that approach in our Congress. Second, the trading system has essentially been stalemated for several years. There are no new multilateral negotiations of any serious nature being conducted anywhere. The situation is very serious if, like me, you believe in the bicycle theory, which says you either move forward or you fall over. But even if you dont believe in the bicycle theory, you have to be impressed by the series of failures over the last few years. The U.S. administration has been unable to get any new negotiating authority from the Congress for five years; U.S. trade policy is stalemated domestically. Efforts to negotiate a new international investment agreement failed miserably at the OECD in Paris. The effort to launch a new multilateral trade
[CTRL] Breaking the Biggest Story in History: transcript of Benjamin Creme's LA Press Conference
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:644958"Breaking the Biggest Story in History: transcript of Benjamin Creme's LA Press Conference /A - Subject: Breaking the Biggest Story in History: transcript of Benjamin Creme's LA Press Conference From: j2233 A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Fri, Oct 6, 2000 8:54 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This might be of interest to some of you. If you wonder why it's being posted in the above 'conspiracy' groups, the simple reason is that this story threatens the established so called world order...and is consequently ignored by the people who control the news media. Only a few will be open minded enough to consider this possibly true. Hope that your mind is open! == Breaking the Biggest Story in History: Edited transcript of Benjamin Creme's LA Press Conference of 11/25/97 Announcer: For over 20 years, a man whom some call a modern-day John the Baptist has been traveling the globe, telling audiences that the second coming of Christ will not be a celestial spectacle in a distant future, but is instead a real event, unfolding since 1977, behind the scenes of everyday life, and signifying the reappearance of a great spiritual teacher for all people -- a World Teacher, who is not only Christ returned, but also the long-awaited Messiah, Imam Mahdi, Krishna, and the Fifth Buddha, all one and the same individual. This World Teacher, whose name is Maitreya, stands at the head of an enlightened group known as the Masters of Wisdom, who are here to help humanity solve the problems of the world. The man with this earth-shaking news is British artist, author, and futurist Benjamin Creme. In 1982, at a news conference in Los Angeles, Mr. Creme challenged the media to cover this incredible story as it was then just beginning to unfold. But news media declined, asking for more tangible evidence. Since then, tangible evidence of extraordinary nature and proportions has been amassing. And at a news conference on November 25, 1997, Benjamin Creme presented this evidence: photographs, reports, correspondence, and corroboration from a former United States government official, that Benjamin Creme's story is true. In the next half hour, this compelling evidence and highlights of Mr. Creme's news conference will be shown, including his explanation of who Maitreya is, why he is here, and what this means for our future. Mr. Creme's perspectives about the World Teacher and the Masters of Wisdom derive from and continue the Theosophical teachings introduced by Helena Blavatsky in 1875 and expanded upon by Alice Bailey from 1919 to 1949. Both Blavatsky and Bailey claimed to have received their information telepathically from one or more of the Masters. Benjamin Creme also claims such telepathic contact. According to Theosophical writings, Maitreya and the Masters would emerge publicly sometime after 1975. Since then, second-coming prophets, preachers, and new-age visionaries have flourished, but Benjamin Creme has remained separate and distinct from them all. And now with fifteen years of hard evidence to back up his story, Mr. Creme has proven himself to be arguably the most credible source of information about revelations leading into the new millennium. Benjamin Creme:The Masters are our elder brothers, members of humanity who advance before us, a group of perfected, illumined, enlightened men who for millennia have lived in the remote mountain and desert areas of the world, and from there they have beneficently overseen and stimulated our evolution from the earliest times. Every cosmic cycle, one or other of these Masters comes into the world as a teacher for that time -- as Krishna, the Buddha, the Christ, Mohammed. These are all Masters, coming all of them from the same spiritual center of the world, the Spiritual Hierarchy of Masters and initiates who make the next kingdom up above the human. I was contacted by one of these Masters way back in January, 1959, and from then on was prepared and eventually sent into the world to make known the fact of the return to the world of this group of perfected men. Maitreya, the Master of all the Masters, is the embodiment of the Christ principle -- that energy of love manifests through him and he releases it daily into the world. And as that is awakened in the human heart, so Maitreya can work through that individual. He comes to help us to change the world, and he sees the major problem for humanity in the discrepancy in living standards between the developed world (that's us), and the developing world. At the moment, some 35,000 people die every day of starvation. Some 38 million people right now are facing starvation. Maitreya calls this a blasphemy -- millions of people starving to death in a world with a huge surplus, some 10%
[CTRL] Mafia and Banking
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:644875"Mafia and Banking /A - Subject: Mafia and Banking From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, Oct 5, 2000 11:26 AM Message-id: 8rih50$h1s$[EMAIL PROTECTED] A couple of days ago there was a report that the Mafia had set up a clone of an online branch of the Banco di Sicilia and were preparing to remove funds from an account belonging to the Sicilian regional government. Of course, in some former communist countries it is not unknown for banks to be controlled by members of criminal networks but some people might think that could not happen in the West. In the recent Sicilian case the Mafia attempted to set up a bank in cyberspace. However, earlier this year it was claimed that a real Wall Street bank, the DMN Capital Investment Bank, had been established by the Mafia as an instrument for carrying out various scams. These stories remind me of the novel, "Nest of Vipers" by Linda Davies (my sister who is herself a former banker who worked both in New York and London), which also features a bank controlled by the Mafia. Nest of Vipers A HREF="http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/vipers.html" http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/vipers.html/A There are links to the stories about the Mafia banks in my page on organised crime, the Mafia etc. at my financial scandals site. Roy Davies Financial Scandals A HREF="http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/mafia.html" http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/scandals/mafia.html/A Sent via Deja.com A HREF="http://www.deja.com/"http://www.deja.com//A Before you buy. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Drug Industry Shills
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:644859"Drug Industry Shills/A - Subject: Drug Industry Shills From: Alex Constantine A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, Oct 5, 2000 10:05 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYT October 5, 2000 MEDICINE MERCHANTS Drug Industry Has Ties to Groups With Many Different Voices By JEFF GERTH and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG -- WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 Elizabeth Helms arrived on Capitol Hill on a warm Tuesday afternoon in July with a simple message for Congress: Drug stores, not drug makers, are to blame for the high cost of prescription medicines. Under the hot glare of television lights, Ms. Helms, a former hairdresser from Folsom, Calif., implored a panel of senators not to "kill the golden goose the pharmaceutical industry." Then she presented her evidence: a survey of 80 pharmacies that showed consumers could cut their drug bills by more than half simply by shopping around. "The argument that the industry is gouging consumers with prices is completely unfounded," Ms. Helms declared. A consumer activist, Ms. Helms came to the Senate hearing representing three grass- roots organizations, including the patients' group that sponsored her survey and a consumer coalition, Citizens for the Right to Know. What her audience did not hear, however, was that she also works full time for a public relations company whose clients include the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the drug industry's trade group. Six years ago, the industry trade group provided the seed money and public relations expertise to help create Citizens for the Right to Know; it still pays the group's telephone bills. And a spot check of Ms. Helms's survey found it overstated the differences in pharmacy prices. In an interview, Ms. Helms defended the survey and said working for the trade group is only a small part of her job. "I'm as grass roots as they come," she said. The story of how a woman schooled in cosmetology wound up offering testimony on drug prices to the United State Senate is a small, but telling, example of the pharmaceutical industry's broad and sometimes unseen reach into the debate about prescription drug prices. The industry is one of America's most lucrative and powerful businesses. And in this election year, with prescription drug prices at the center of the political debate, it has so far staved off what it fears most: a government-run prescription drug plan for the elderly, which drug makers say could lead to price controls. With drug companies concentrated in only a few states, they lack a broad constituency. And although they make life-saving products, they are not always warmly embraced by the patients who take them. So they have worked hard over the past 15 years to cultivate alliances with people like Ms. Helms. They have created large coalitions from scratch, and also financed hundreds of existing patient advocacy groups. They contribute to public policy groups of all political stripes, from state legislators' organizations to the Democratic Leadership Council, whose chairman is Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate. Today, the companies need allies more than ever. In the prescription drug benefits debate, they face well-financed opposition from labor and citizens' groups, notably the AARP, as well as the insurance industry, which typically runs neck-and-neck with the pharmaceutical industry as the business that spends the most money on lobbying. But after a decade of legislative successes, including valuable tax breaks, speedier approval of drugs and patent extensions, the drug makers are suffering some defeats. Members of Congress, anxious to show voters that they have taken action, are poised to enact a bill that would allow lower- priced medicines to be imported from foreign countries. Maine has adopted a law that gives the state authority to negotiate discounted prices on drugs, and the right to prosecute companies for profiteering. Helping elderly people pay for their medicine is a hot topic in presidential politics; in the debate on Tuesday, the candidates clashed repeatedly over how to accomplish that. The companies, fearing a government- run plan would lead to price controls, are siding squarely with Gov. George Bush of Texas and other Republicans who want to keep the government out of the drug insurance business. The drug makers' message is emotional and simple: don't interfere with our ability to save lives. To get it across, the top 15 pharmaceutical companies spent nearly $60 million last year, up from $45 million in 1998. They have hired the usual group of former government officials as lobbyists, have financed studies to advance their views, and run expensive advertising campaigns to soften their image. "We have refused to play only defense and serve as a punching bag for those who want to
Re: [CTRL] Breaking the Biggest Story in History: transcript of B enjamin Creme's LA Press Conference
-Caveat Lector- Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:644958"Breaking the Biggest Story in History: transcript of Benjamin Creme's LA Press Conference /A - This might be of interest to some of you. If you wonder why it's being posted in the above 'conspiracy' groups, the simple reason is that this story threatens the established so called world order...and is consequently ignored by the people who control the news media. Only a few will be open minded enough to consider this possibly true. Hope that your mind is open! For those not familiar with Creme's schtick, after reading The Reappearance of the Christ which is all about Lord Maitreya, two things stick out. First, it is all about sharing the world's wealth and food so that everyone has the same advantages and good life. And two, a total absence of acknowledgment that evil exists in this world. There are no bad guys to contend with. Sound like the New World Order? Sure does to me. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] international media inrael
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Please forward this to anyone you know. It exposes the international media Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:43:34 +0200 You need to look at the picture before you read this! Subject: To the Editor Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:15:07 -0500 From: aaronnoach mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding your picture on page A5 (Sept. 30) of the Israeli soldier and the Palestinian on the Temple Mount - that Palestinian is actually my son , Tuvia Grossman, a Jewish student from Chicago. He, and two of his friends, were pulled from their taxicab while travelling in Jerusalem, by a mob of Palestinian Arabs and were severely beaten and stabbed. That picture could not have been taken on the Temple Mount because there are no gas stations on the Temple Mount and certainly none with Hebrew lettering, like the one clearly seen behind the Israeli soldier attempting to protect my son from the mob. Aaron Grossman, M.D. 6737 N Richmond Chicago, IL 60645 (773) 743-1194 Subject: (no subject) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:54:39 EDT From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Editor, Even the typically biased and slanted NY Times middle east reporting has hit a new low. Since the Times wishes to convey the belief that the Palestinians are all innocent lambs being tormented by an aggressive oppressor, it can not even conceive that the wounded and injured are NOT Palestinians. The current case in point is very personal to me. In the Saturday's Times on page A6, the picture of the "wounded Palestinian" is, in fact, my nephew, Tuvia Grossman, an AMERICAN Jewish student learning in Israel. His only crime was being Jewish. He was not in "crossfire" but merely the target of Palestinian lambs who stoned his cab, dragged him from the vehicle, smashed his head with stones and stabbed him in the leg. The Israeli soldier, whom you obviously wished to portray as victimizing the poor, wounded Palestinian was actually saving my nephew's life. A casual look at the background of the picture can tell anyone that it's not the Temple Mount at all. I believe that a retraction, in a prominent position in the paper, is neccessary and an apology to the parents, forthcoming. Howard Gissinger 2809 Avenue S Brooklyn, New York 11229 718-998-2909 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Man killed by police serving warrant at wrong home
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/06/2000 12:39:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It took more than 12 hours for any authorities to comment on the shooting. Police Chief Billy Weeks said, âThe person that did the surveillance did go on the raid. The surveillance was probably not as good as it should have been. A mistake was made, a severe mistake, a very costly mistake.â Really? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RadTimes # 61
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 61 - October, 2000 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debates ... because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public." -- League of Women Voters, Oct. 3, 1988 --- Contents: --- --Bedtime for Democracy in Boston --198 methods of nonviolent protest --Federal Death Penalty's True Colors --Slavery in Sudan becomes a 'cause' in US --Customs debuts cybersmuggling center --Study: Toxic Risks Near Projects Linked stories: *Debate attracts hordes of activists: Police arrest 16 *Thousands Protest As Nader Turned Away From Debate *Nader fans, others protest outside debates *Varied protesters come for debate *Violent Toy Turn-In Planned *S26: `Prague was ours today' *Anti-IMF protests sweep the world *Ties taint Carnivore review *Critics say Carnivore review won't be independent *Survey Finds Parents Favor More Detailed Sex Education --- Begin stories: --- Bedtime for Democracy in Boston In Boston style, nobody's a pushover; the protesters of the "Bush=Gore" Corporate Shell Game Debate 'kicked ass' like no one expected. The corporate media showed up 'cause they knew they HAD to. Now, I don't expect them to cover it and even if they did, their coverage would be like Old-style communist PRAVDA gibberish. We've all gotten used to their blather. But let me just briefly mention what went down on O3, Bedtime for Democracy. The day started at noon with a tour of downtown Boston, the most nefarious Corporations were associated with the ruling parties. About 500-1000 people attended. It was pleasant, helped the financial district to understand what it's like for others to have a conscience. But the party really kicked into over-drive during the march from Dudley Square to the edge of U Mass where the "debates" where staged. That started around 5 pm. We went through the African American/ Puerto-Rican Roxbury district. The lead truck was great! Good speeches about the lack of decent health care in the African American community--the racism of it. And powerful pleas for the release of Mumia and an end to the racist death penalty. There was lots of support... nobody gave us trouble in the neighborhood and even the traffic was honking for us. The community loved us and we reciprocated. It was great. It was followed by a procession which I never could see the end of from the beginning. My guess is that it was somewhere between 5000-10,000 people at its peak. It was spirited, tons of puppets, props, signs: all very cool--the festive air greatly complemented the rebellious and defiant mood. People were pissed! But there was the street theater element that managed to pull off a very cool skit involving about 50 people! The idea of the skit was to show how voters were throwing away their own personal power as citizen by voting for corporate candidates. And the props and puppets were artfully made and another inspiration showing enormous dedication. And it was a funny skit! Afterwards, people broke into groups and discussed their own visions of what should be our issues addressed by the debate: from homelessness, to corporate rule, to environmental destruction, etc. The Corporate Commission on Presidential Debates ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is so tyrannical that they were willing to spit in the face of the majority of the people in this country, denying all access to third party candidates. I heard that Ralph Nader even had a TICKET to the debates and the CPD scoundrels wouldn't even let Nader in as a SPECTATOR! What new low will these people stoop to? Haven't they already shit their pants in public? Have they no self-respect? In Japan, such behavior, if brought to an honorable conclusion, would lead to suicide. Ah, if only there were some dignity from that group! But no, none. But no doubt they will move on to new corrupt jobs by 2004. Rotate those with blood on their hands: that's typical. And there _was_ blood. Wild stuff happened as the evening progressed and this article is too short to recount it. At one
Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/3/00 11:58:29 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are many connections between the occult and the Intel. Talking about "the occult" is like talking about religion or business. It's simply too broad a term to be meaningful. Satanic ritual cults specifically. He started to give such accounts credibility when they fell under the rules of 3, 4 or 5 - when 3 or more survivors who didn't know each other named the same prominent person. If they'd named the same obscure person it might be worth investigating. Images of celebrities, however, are present in everyone's subconscious. CEO's of Fortune 500 companies and members of the intelligence community are not generally celebrities people can name. The CEO's names are in the public domain, but intel names aren't except for the higher-ups. National senators only fit into your category of names that could be in everyone's subconscious. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] British study shows fluoridated water safe, other experts disagree
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British study shows fluoridated water safe
By EMMA ROSS, Associated Press
LONDON (October 6, 2000 10:26 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -
No evidence of harm has been uncovered in the first analysis of 50 years of
research on the safety of adding fluoride to drinking water, and some
experts say the findings should ease lingering fears that it could cause
cancer, osteoporosis or Down Syndrome.
The review, published this week in the British Medical Journal, involved 214
studies and was the most comprehensive since fluoridation was first
introduced in the United States after World War II.
Fluoride opponents dismissed the research, saying it ignored some
studies showing adverse effects, such as an increase in bone fractures
among the elderly, and did not account for fluoride from other sources.
"This is not the last word on fluoride," said Paul Connett, a professor of
chemistry at St. Lawrence University in New York and a fluoridation
opponent. "This is a superficial look and you've got to put this in the context
that we can't control the dose. You have to test the fluoride level in people's
bones."
The research was commissioned by the British government, which is
contemplating a nationwide fluoridation program. As in many other
countries, fluoride is added to the water in some British communities but
not in others.
Worldwide, more than 360 million people live in areas with fluoridated
water. In the United States, about 145 million people drink fluoridated
water.
Fluoridation, which aims to reduce tooth decay, has been widely debated
worldwide since its introduction. Fluoride is also found naturally in tea, fish
and other foods, and is added to some toothpastes.
The researchers, from the National Health Service Center for Reviews and
Dissemination at the University of York in northern England, said they
looked at every study conducted worldwide on the safety of fluoridated
water and eliminated 3,017 they considered flawed.
Their analysis confirmed that fluoridation reduces tooth decay by about 15
percent, but found that it was also linked to dental fluorosis, or mottled
teeth, about 48 percent of the time. In 12.5 percent of cases, mottling was
moderate or severe, involving brown patches on the teeth. That is a
cosmetic condition that can be rectified, said Paul Wilson, a lead
researcher.
One of the most lingering suspicions has been that fluoridated water could
make elderly people more likely to suffer bone fractures. At extremely high
doses, fluoride can eat away at teeth and bones.
"The finding that long-term exposure to fluoridated water does not increase
the risk of osteoporotic fractures among elderly people should alleviate
remaining concerns about the safety of fluoridation," said Hannu Hausen,
an epidemiologist and dental professor at the University of Oulu in Oulu,
Finland, who was not connected with the research.
The fear of osteoporosis has never been based on strong evidence,
Wilson said.
"There are some very vociferous groups on both sides that have polarized
the debate," Wilson said. "But we've looked at 50 years of the best
research and we've not been able to find any association with any harm."
Connett was not convinced, saying tooth decay has been declining since
World War II in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas. Fluoridation
programs aim for a trade-off of only a minor level of mottled teeth, he said,
and the study shows that has not been achieved.
"They wanted no more than 10 percent dental fluorosis in the mild stage,"
he said. "This study shows they've got 48 percent, and 12.5 percent where
it is 'aesthetically unpleasing.' The program is a total failure."
Connett also objected to considering mottled teeth a purely cosmetic
problem, saying it could be an indicator of a toxic effect. He also said the
analysis of bone fracture risk was not thorough enough.
"You want the benefit of fluoride? Brush your teeth and spit it out as soon as
you can. Why put it in the drinking water?" Connett said.
According to the World Health Organization, skeletal fluorosis is observed
when drinking water contains 36 milligrams of fluoride per liter of water.
The WHO recommends about 1.5 mg per liter. In most communities, the
concentration is about 1 mg per liter.
Wilson said the studies he examined tracked the effects of up to 4 mg per
liter in drinking water. He said people living in a community with a
fluoridation program and consuming fluoride from other sources would be
getting no higher a dose than that.
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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?
-Caveat Lector- There could very well be a connection between the RC Jesuits and the practitioners of satanic ritual abuse. I consider this RC Jesuit stuff - that I've only been made aware of recently - as a new lead. Someone close to me is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse and was raised in a strict RC home. The father was in the Knights of Columbus. I assumed the devout RC activity was a cover for the satanism, but the RC Church is pretty kinky. I'm keeping an open mind. Samantha In a message dated 10/3/00 6:35:14 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Define "Occult" and "Satanist" Some would, for example suggest that such terms could be applied to Roman Catholicism, and the RC Jesuits who enact their "Spiritual Exercises." This religio-political organization has consorted with, been involved with, and necessarily influenced Intel Orgs for CENTURIES! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] British study shows fluoridated water safe, other experts disagree
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/6/00 2:47:03 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Their analysis confirmed that fluoridation reduces tooth decay by about 15 percent, but found that it was also linked to dental fluorosis, or mottled teeth, about 48 percent of the time. In 12.5 percent of cases, mottling was moderate or severe, involving brown patches on the teeth. That is a cosmetic condition that can be rectified, said Paul Wilson, a lead researcher That's what is so bizarre about the fluoride issue - a 15% reduction in tooth decay? It makes no sense to add fluoride to water for such a small alleged benefit. My understanding is that even the proponents of fluoride admit it is only helpful to those under age 12. Why subject an entire population to possible toxicity for a 15% benefit for only a fraction of the population? I guess we must follow the money, as always. It would be less expensive to give free fluoride pills to youngsters than to inundate water supplies. If governments care so much about our dental health, why don't they spend the millions/billions and give us free or reduced dental care? In this case, it seems the conspiracy angle - to poison us by reducing our intellectual capacities - as well as giving profits to companies who otherwise would have to pay big bucks to dispose of this highly toxic by-product - is the only angle where the conclusion fits all the odds and ends. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Aquino v. Electriciti Decision
-Caveat Lector- It was hard to tell what this means, but I looked up some related info. It looks like Aquino has no case. (Go Curio Jones!) http://www.ldrc.com/cyber1.html snips Section 230 effectuates Congress's goals through three key operative provisions. The most significant part of the statute, Section 230(c)(1), states: No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider. This section generally immunizes service providers from liability for third-party content. Another provision of the statute, Section 230(c)(2), provides additional explicit protection for Good Samaritan actions by service providers, such as those at issue in Stratton Oakmont: [n]o provider . . . of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of [] any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider . . . considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable . . . . This provision makes clear that a service provider may not be held liable for engaging in any good faith action or program to exclude unlawful or objectionable content from its service or to limit access to such content. Finally, Section 230(d)(3) makes clear that any state-law causes of action inconsistent with the statute are barred: Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent any State from enforcing any State law that is consistent with this section. No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section. Samantha ~~ who only hopes she understood this correctly In a message dated 10/3/00 11:10:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aquino v. Electriciti Inc., 26 Med. L. Rptr. 1032 (Cal. Superior Crt., San Francisco City and County, Sept. 23, 1997) In this case, the Court, following Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 958 F. Supp. 1124 held that the Communications Decency Act preempts state law claims against defendant ISP for negligence, breach of contract, intentional infliction of emotional distress, alter ego liability, injunctive relief and violation of civil rights arising from IPS's distribution of material written by another that contained derogatory comments about plaintiffs, including that they were the "ring leaders" of an "international conspiracy" to further "Satanic Ritual Abuse" of children. Said the court: Plaintiffs' causes of action are preempted by Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act of 1996 and Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 958 F. Supp. 1124.=20 =20 =A9 Copyright 1997-2000 Martin H. Samson All rights Reserved. Disclaimer=20 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] VJ-News: THE PALESTINIAN DAY OF RAGE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 04:08:46 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THE PALESTINIAN "DAY OF RAGE": VJ-NEWS In this issue: * EXPLAINING ANTI-JEWISH VIOLENCE TO YOUR KIDS * FOCUS ON ISRAELI ARABS * TALK ABOUT ISRAELI/PALESTINIAN ISSUES * SNEAKY SECRETS OF SHABBOS STOVES * WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO "BE JEWISH"? * "CARB UP" FOR THE FAST WITH TRADITIONAL MANDELBROT! * NO MORE TRAVEL HEADACHES! Greetings from Jerusalem! Today is the Palestinian "Day of Rage". Outside in the sunshine the birds are twittering. My neighbour's wind-chimes are tinkling peacefully. My cat is munching happily on his biscuits. Two hours from now, police expect massive violence to break out here as Muslims at Al Aqsa Mosque and throughout Israel launch unprecedented riots and terrorist attacks against the Jewish population. Some of my friends live close to the rioting; many have young children. Nobody knows what is going to happen. Reading the news coverage by the NY Times, BBC, CNN and other major news agencies, we at VJ have been rendered speechless with amazement. Through careful omissions, exaggerations and twisted phrasing, Israel is skilfully portrayed as the perpetrator of unwarranted violence towards thousands of innocent Palestinian teenagers who are throwing a few pebbles around to make their point. The reality here is totally different. The mobs are homicidal, out of control, and armed with petrol bombs and guns as well as rocks. Innocent children are tragically being dragged into the fighting as battle fodder to gain world sympathy. The NY Times this week printed a picture of "An Israeli soldier and a Palestinian on the Temple Mount". The soldier, roaring and brandishing a baton, stood over a young man crouching terrified at his feet, covered in blood. It wasn't until the young man's uncle wrote to the Times that the picture was revealed as a fake. The boy was his American Jewish nephew on vacation, who had been seized by a Palestinian mob which almost succeeded in beating him to death. The soldier was risking his life trying to rescue him. The world press is having an anti-semitic field day. Meanwhile, here in Israel we wait quietly in our homes for the next round of Palestinian and Islamic attacks, perhaps the worst yet. Our security forces will do their best to protect us. And we know that whatever is done to us today in the name of Islamic hatred, the world will portray the attackers as innocent victims of Israeli aggression. If we fire even a single round of gunfire in self-defense, it is that burst of gunfire which will be reported - not the rabid mob violence and petrol-bombing that led up to it. Yom Kippur is almost upon us. We stand before Hashem knowing that, ultimately, we are in His hands. We know from 5000 years of history that He will not forsake us. And that is all that matters. From all of us here at VJ we sincerely wish you, wherever you are, a peaceful and meaningful fast. * * HOW TO EXPLAIN ANTI-JEWISH VIOLENCE TO YOUR KIDS Over the past 6 days, Palestinians and Israeli-Arab violence has erupted throughout Israel. The news is filled with acts of hate and violence between Israelis and Palestinians, and the US media is depicting Israel as the "bad guy". What can we say or do to help our children and grandchildren cope with the anti-Jewish aggression they see in the news? http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/articles/282001.htm * FOCUS ON ISRAELI ARABS "The Temple Mount is important to all Muslims, but no more important in my eyes than my rights as a citizen of Israel. I want to remain in Israel as a citizen with equal rights. We have no dream of setting up our own national home." Israeli Arabs are often lumped together with the Palestinians, but although they support the Palestinian cause, their own grievances are distinct from those of the Palestinians. This week, we take a closer look at these "invisible" Israelis and discover just what is making them so angry. http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/articles/669001.htm * TALK ABOUT ISRAELI/PALESTINIAN ISSUES The fur is flying in our forums this week! If you're feeling brave, put on your flak jacket and come on in: Your reactions to the Arab violence in New York http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/493.html Your reactions to the Arab/Israeli violence in Israel http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/487.html Ariel Sharon's Temple Mount visit - Irresponsible? Justified? http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/485.html Should America be doing more to help? If so, what? http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/489.html When are live bullets against demonstrators justified? http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/490.html DIVINE sovereignty for the Temple Mount? What do you think? http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/486.html Who should be in charge of Likud - Sharon or Netanyahu? http://bb.virtualjerusalem.com/messages/43/491.html Is Barak going too
[CTRL] Lubavitcher reveals why Christians are evil
-Caveat Lector- I didn't write the responses to the Lubavitcher post, but I sent that post on to someone, and below are his responses. He is quite intuitive and certainly understands the satanic jewish talmudic babylonian mindset. I asked him if he would subscribe to CTRL, but below is his response to that, and below that are his reponses to the Lubavitcher post. Happy reading: I think conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. Wanna start one? I think they are mostly a waste of time, and such lists - especially mind kontrol conspiracy theory lists - are wall-to-wall with doublespeakers and agents provocateurs. Thus, I unsubbed from CTRL several years ago. Didn't "Y2K" prove anything about "conspiracy theory?" This is a reply to something Justine forwarded to me from another list, supposedly written by a Lubavitcher Jew who therefore believes the late Rebbe Menachem M. Schneerson is the Jewish Messiah. (The "son of sneer? How apropos with regard to Lord Jesus Christ and the devil who sneers.) Obviously, therefore, the future world civilization is to be built upon Rebbe Schneerson's shoulder according to the supposed "laws" of ancient Bronze Age Judaism? May God deliver US! My comments are included... Who Was Jesus? The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d. In Deuteronomy 13, G-d describes this false prophet as a member of the Jewish people (v. 2, 7) who would tell true prophecies and would have the power of miracles. G-d Himself would give this false prophet the power to perform miracles and reveal prophecy, but the false prophet would try to seduce the people away from G-d's Law and towards strange gods unknown to Judaism. The purpose would be to test whether we are truly committed to living under the Law, or whether we will be dazzled and fall for the temptation to join a false path to salvation (v. 3-6, 7-8, 11). In this Biblical passage, G-d repeatedly commands the Jews to kill this false prophet, lest the evil spread and destroy many souls. First off, Jews survive today in Israel and elsewhere largely because of the grace of Christians. Every day I see fund raising campaigns on blind Christian TV so that Russian Jews can be illegally and immorally "repatriated" into confiscated, formerly Palestinian lands. This Jewish "God" and His "Laws" must be fairly impotent since human civilization is now largely founded upon The New Testament, via Anglo-Protestant USA, meaning modern civilization is the product of the antichrist, according to this Lubavitcher. So, all the Catholic saints, for instance, are "destroyed souls?" Gandhi was a "destroyed soul?" Mother Teresa was patently evil? Nothing good has come out of Christian civilization? Things are worse off now than they were 2,000-years ago? Or, has modern civilization arisen out of Judaism, not Christianity? Judaic law, talmudic and otherwise, is perfect? Such "laws" have not been invaded by evil doctrines nor did they mainly apply to Bronze Age Civilization where cannibals and slave traders lived just over the next hill? Since this Lubavitcher is so fundamentalist, I suppose s/he believes Christian civilization is to be destroyed down to the very last chicken since that is what "God" decreed should happen to other idol worshippers (I Sam. 15:14-27) and because the fundamental teaching of babylonian talmudicism is that all Christians are "idol worshippers" since all Christians "worship Jesus instead of God." Thus, is marxist-leninism really a Judaic politikal means to this babylonian talmudic end? A lot of data are available that seem to point to this possibility: the 3,500-year old religion of Judaism teaches that idol worshippers are to be exterminated from the face of the Earth as quickly as possible by any and all means possible, exactly what marxist-leninism also decrees about Christians. Since Judaism teaches that all Christians are idol worshippers (along with everyone else in the world who is not Jewish), what do orthodox Jews, such as Sen. LIEberman, actually believe? To be accepted by the people, the false prophet would sometimes pretend to be a righteous Jew who fulfills the Law, but at key moments he would turn against certain details of the Law in order to make the breach (v. 6, 7). This means that Judaic "Law" is Perfect. How absurd. This sublimely irrational position is easily defeated from a number of directions for those with the eyes to see. This is the reason that verse 1 commands us not to add or subtract any details from the Law, and verse 5 warns us to remain steadfast with all the traditions of the Law. So, "laws" that applied to the Bronze Age also apply to the Space Age and thermonuclear warfare? Nothing changes? A cigar is always just a cigar? How absurd. What a brood of vipers haughtily making busy with their scales as they measure tit for tat according to their own manner of self-righteousness. In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet
[CTRL] [narconews] News Bulletin from Bolivia to NY (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Al Giordano" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: [narconews] News Bulletin from Bolivia to NY Dear Colleagues, Due to the lack of phone service in the entire "developing world" locale where the Narco Newsroom is based today, we are so far unable to post today's press briefing. I write from a cyber-cafe 40 minutes away to inform you of breaking events in Bolivia and other news: 1. The Bolivian government has ceded to 95% of the demands of striking teachers and to some regions of the coca-growers movement, and will allow "traditional coca growing" in various regions of the country. 2. However, the Bolivian government has not made the same agreement with the coca-growers of Chapare in an attempt to isolate and prepare a military solution in that region to the blockade of roads. 3. 80% of all Bolivian businesses are today shut down. The country remains paralyzed. 4. The remaining issue is with the coca growers of Chapare, led by Congressman Evo Morales, who have demanded that coca growing families be allowed to grow a 40 by 40 meter plot. The situation is tense and anything could happen. 5. Please don't forget to read our special report on the conflict of interest by AP Bolivia correspondent Peter McFarren: http://www.narconews.com/mcfarrenstory1.html ...and to add your comments to the Associated Press Managing Editors Association bulletin board at: http://www.apme.com/forum/home.shtml If phone service is restored later today we will post updated reports. Narco News will be in four cities in the next four days, we presume with phone service, and, thus, will be able to restore our daily reporting rhythm beginning Saturday evening. 6. Finally, Narco News will be down for an hour from 4 to 5 a.m. ET on Monday morning (sunday night) as we move our computer server to a more secure machine in the heart of New York City, where we don't anticipate the technical problems that have arisen occassionally at our current server center based in Baltimore. The new server will be 50 yards from the E-bay server, thus, if they want to shut us down they will have to shut down E-bay too! Thank you for your patience, From somewhere in a country called América with poor telephone infrastructure... Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] re : U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals - USA v ARCHDALE
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find information about a case alleging sexual abuse. Sincerely, Neil Brick This url may be triggering for survivors of abuse. U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals - USA v ARCHDALE - 9930297 - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, - No. 99-30297 - Plaintiff-Appellee, - D.C. No. v. CR 98-103-BLG-JDS WALLACE D. ARCHDALE, Defendant-Appellant. OPINION Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Montana Jack D. Shanstrom, District Judge, Presiding, Argued and Submitted 8/800 Seattle, WA Filed 10/4/00 "Archdale appealed his convictions, claiming numerous erroneous evidentiary rulings." "[5] The Federal Rules of Evidence permit the use of leading questions on direct examination as may be necessary to develop the witness' testimony." "[7] Leading questions were necessary to develop J.K.'s and Timberly's testimony. No manifest injustice occurred [9] The jury found that J.K.'s testimony was credible and therefore, that there was sufficient evidence to support Archdale's conviction." quotes from http://laws.findlaw.com/9th/9930297.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Question
This group is ex-military group that is a good bunch of guys and they are looking into this Chemtrail issue,too. I welcome them aboard. Sardar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Question Dear Ex-Marine, YES! The military is involved and as usual, they are LYING about WHY etc. Please send me the URLs to any websites you think might aid us at MilitaryCorruption.com to expose this. As you can see from our past stories, we take on the Big Boys, but we make sure everything is nailed down before we publish. The reason is obvious. Please "click on" to our site several times a day, if possible. Some of our supporters "hit" us three times in a row in the a.m. and again in the p.m. That's six "bullets" to fire back at the enemy. They (the Pentagon) are aware we put our COUNTER right up there to be seen by all, so if MilitaryCorruption.com is to continue, we MUST have regular support - all it costs you is time - from the folks out there reading us. Also please tell everyone on your e-mail list and all your friends who might be interested, about MilitaryCorrutption.com, and urge THEM to tell THEIR friends! That is so important! THANKS. MAJ Glenn MacDonald, USAR (Ret) Editor-in-Chief MilitaryCorruption.com
[CTRL] THE BOYS ON THE TRACKS: A Book Review
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.hightimes.com/News/2000_10/levreview.tpl http://www.hightimes.com/News/2000_10/levreview.tpl Click Here: A HREF="http://www.hightimes.com/News/2000_10/levreview.tpl"THE BOYS ON THE TRACKS: A Book Review/A - THE BOYS ON THE TRACKS: A Book Review FILED 10/03/00 By all accounts the engineer did a masterful job of bringing his train to a stop. It had taken a screaming, screeching half mile. By the time the engine shuddered to a standstill, conductor Jerry Tomlin was on the radio notifying an approaching train on a parallel track to stop because some boys had been run over. He also called the dispatcher. 'Have you got injuries?' the dispatcher asked. 'No,' Tomlin said. 'We've got death. I'm sure we've got death. They passed under us. It has to be death.'' With this graphic image, Mara Leveritt's brilliant THE BOYS ON THE TRACKS launches unstoppably into a moving and troubling exposé of one of the more bizarre criminal cases in recent US history. The victims here were two central Arkansas 17-year-olds, Don Henry and Kevin Ives. Immediately after that rushing train passed over their bodies in the pre-dawn hours of August 23, 1987, official discrepancies and coverups proliferated. Mara Leveritt The state Medical Examiner, after perfunctory postmortem blood tests, immediately attributed the "cause of death" entirely and solely to marijuana, speculating that the boys had somehow smoked "20 joints' worth" apiece, which supposedly rendered them too zombified to rouse up and get out of the way of a roaring, screeching, multi-ton train. Other evidence indicating alternative causes of death--such as the knife-stab rent in one boy's shirt, and the imbedded imprint in the other's face of a rifle butt--was ignored and unmentioned. So was the the way both boys' lungs were filled with blood, which could not have happened had they been struck by a speeding train and killed instantly, without time to wheeze and gasp down the blood caused by extensive internal hemorrhages from the beatings they'd sustained before they were laid down on those tracks. But all that the Arkansas state pathologist, Dr. Fahmy Malak, would tell the boys' parents about was traces of pot in the boys' bodies. Author Mara Leverett, who very skillfully uses Kevin Ives' mother Linda as a sort of Greek chorus throughout this book, describing her puzzlement, consternation, suspicion and progressive outrage as she confronts one lie after another from authorities, recounts the preposterous way Dr. Malak initially tried to flim-flam the freshly grief-stricken parents gathered in his Little Rock morgue. 'The Psychedelic Influence of THC (Marijuana) Intoxication'"What we have here," Dr. Fahmy authoritatively told them, "are two accidental deaths due to THC intoxication. At 4:25 AM on August 23, 1987, Larry Kevin Ives, 17, and Don George Henry, 16, were unconscious and in deep sleep on the railroad tracks, under the psychedelic influence of THC--marijuana--when a train passed over them causing their accidental death." Now, according to Leverett, none of these parents knew a heck of a lot about pot, but no one is stupid enough to believe that its "psychedelic influence" extends to passing out cold, like an oblivious alcohol coma. Dr. Malak certainly must have known better, but may have hoped these plain, ordinary Arkansas folks would be dumb enough to swallow his diagnosis. When instead they exploded into questions, he tried to shock them into silence by spreading photos of their sons' mutilated bodies in front of them, and then refused to give any answers to anything. Dead Before Arrival Disbelieving and contemptuous of Malak's preposterous marijuana ruling, Linda Ives and her husband Henry began digging for information wherever they could find it. Eyewitnesses of the death-scene cleanup told them that the train's engineers had spoken eerily of how the boys had been lying side-to-side, motionless, covered by a tarpaulin spread over the tracks. One engineer had led the cops, that morning, to the tarp, in fact--and then been told, later, that he'd been seeing things. And the cleanup was inefficient, to say the least, since some curious sightseers visiting the site later turned up one boy's severed foot, still encased in his shoe, lying out in the open. Fragments of the true story were not that hard to come by. In rural Saline County, well west of Little Rock's suburbs, everybody knows somebody who knows the real story about something "official." The Emergency Medical Technicians who collected the remains (or most of them) told folks they themselves were puzzled by Malak's post-mortem verdict, since those bodies had been dead long enough for the blood to lose all its oxygen and turn dark before that train ever hit them. When the private investigator hired by the Ives and Henry families heard about that, he told them to be careful, and get a court order for all of the medical-examiner records. When the hospital with the
Re: [CTRL] British study shows fluoridated water safe, other experts disagree
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/06/2000 4:13:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In this case, it seems the conspiracy angle - to poison us by reducing our intellectual capacities - as well as giving profits to companies who otherwise would have to pay big bucks to dispose of this highly toxic by-product - is the only angle where the conclusion fits all the odds and ends. Sadly, you're right. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Critique
-Caveat Lector- Sharon Tate who was murdered by Manson Famly had father in military; two of his followers had fathers in military, Pentagon and NASA.consider Littleton, and the military connection to this hypnotic conrol or mind control induced by drugs, and when you put this altogether consider too, A lot of people have family members (esp. fathers) who have been in the Military for some period or other. What is the military involvement in Littleton? I thought it was an FBI psychotronics operation if anything. Tate and Folger murdered by the Manson killers, had had dinner with RFK night he died - and the night he was murdered, John Glenn was with him and was spirited off...during this period you had spies on West Coast galore permitted to demoralize troops in bars - and things were not as they seemed to be. Huh? Anton LaVey, the alleged "satanist" was Jewishin this article which I reproduce he turned into satanist for obviou$$ reasons, but stated it was because he hated Christianity. All these groups are just fronts for drugs and pornography. Of all the things I've heard him accused of Judaism is a new one. Care to elaborate? And don't claim its because his name 'sounds like' Levi, will you? Roman Polanski was involved in child pornography and fled the country after his wife was murdered... Actually he was out of the country when his wife was murdered, filming in Europe. He had to rush back to the US when his wife and friends were killed. ...Note the satanist LaVey portrayed in the movie Rosemary's Baby.this movie was ANTI CATHOLIC.I forget who produced that obscenity with Mia Farrow but Black Muslem papers referred to this movie and the connection to the Pope, whom they detested. Huh? This stuff is all a front for drugs.if you check out LaVey when he died, and prior to that his bankruptcy hearings and sharing with his palimony live in whatever - his business was to make money. I can definately see the influence of drugs in your post, or maybe the lack of them. You see they were strong believers in the iniquities of the fathers being visited upon the children.even little CIA Pattie Hearst (for all Hearsts like Morgan, Mellon, Rockefeller etc heirs) are So consider why Anton LaVey, Jewish founder of the Church of Satan would be an advisor for the movie Rosemary's Baby - an anti Pope Catholic movie? Sublime pictures but even the Black Moslems caught that one Actually La Vey wasn't involved in Rosemary's baby at all. It's variously claimed he acted in or was a 'consultant' for the movie, but there is no evidence. If I recall the 'Devil' in the film was wearing a mask or heavy makeup (It's been a while), and he certainly isn't in the credits. It's one of those Hollywood myths which has grown and cannot be killed, as he probably started the rumor himself (he was nothing if not a self-publicist). Many of his claims have also come under scrutiny for their lack of evidence, such as his claim to have worked as a piano player in a brothel and as a crime scene photographer. He was actually a carny growing up who used to get married on top of ferris wheels every time the carnival wernt to a new town, so all the yokels would show up to watch. LaVey is dead - he was nothing but a front for drugs and pornography and anything evil coming down the pike for it was the big bucks he was after..not many bought his particular type of literature except maybe the Manson family and Roman Polanski - the sick twisted pererted child molestor? Actually his books sell quite well, and they're not cheap either, although I imagine its more the curious than the hard core Satanists who buy them. Although I'd be pretty sure that every Satanist on the face of the Earth has a complete copy of his works. Always lurking about is the child molestor and child pornographyerPolanski was having affairor molested 13 year old little girlconnecting dots as this one person said, makes for bigger picture.then toss in the political assassination of RFK and mind controlled assassins walking about - whose assassins had to be in the Rosicrucian Society but had information prior to his joining of this cult.so, who was his mentor and controller? If Polanski's indiscretions were government or conspiracy sanctioned, why would he have had to flee the US and is still facing a prison term if he returns? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read.
Re: [CTRL] 'Right of first night'
-Caveat Lector- It's from the middle ages, the King and feudal lords had the right to sleep with a bride on her wedding night. It goes back to very old pagna fertility rituals, where the king was chosen for his fertility and was sacrificed after a period of I think 7 years. I believe this was in early Ireland, although it may have been common among early peoples. On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:46:51 -0400 Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- China says Vatican's newest saints were sinners, rapists snip Crescitelli "was notorious for taking the 'right of the first night' of each bride under his diocese," the State Administration of Religious Affairs said in the statement, also run by Xinhua. I've heard of the 'right of the first night' in association with the British land owners in Ireland and also in association with slave owners in the US south. Does anyone know where this 'tradition' started (probably in the first cave inhabited by humans) or have any information or studies related to this so-called 'right'? Thanks, Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Austin pirate station shut down for Forbes 500 conclave
-Caveat Lector- Two articles from Austin-Statesman, which make a bit more conspiratorial sense when read in tandem. The first is about a pirate radio station in Austin which had been operating with no real problems for well over half a year before being suddenly shut down by the federal government for fear of what they might have to say during a meeting of the Fortune 500. The second jokes about the power that the CEOs wield in having their own private police forces protecting them physically while the FCC protects them from criticism. It's interesting in that there are so few available media outlets, not so much because of technical limitations but because of regulations on who can operate them. If there's money involved it can be tolerated, but if it's a voice of protest being heard it's shut down. This is a much more interesting story than anything the corporatistas might have to say. Charles Swenson Austin, Tejas, USA, Gaia Pirate radio station shut down By Claire Osborn American-Statesman Staff Thursday, October 5, 2000 When the Federal Communications Commission tells you to zip your lip, it wants you to listen. Otherwise an agent may show up in your back yard with a pair of pliers. That's what happened Wednesday morning to a pirate radio station in Austin. An FCC agent scaled a 40-foot radio tower in the back yard of a Northeast Austin house and cut the cable to Radio One, an unlicensed radio station broadcasting since May at FM 94.3, said one of the station's founding members. The sudden silence couldn't have happened to a more Austin kind of station. With hip-hop and techno music and shows by the Green Party, Native Americans, Rastafarians and natural health experts, people were just busy trying to present their point of view. Authorities weren't amused. The radio station, housed in a shed behind a residence at 7526 Meadowview Lane, was violating the law by operating without an FCC license, according to a lawsuit filed by the United States government. Federal communications agents declined to comment about the raid on Wednesday in which they seized the station's equipment, including two turntables, a cassette player, two CD players, a mixing board, a jam box and a phone. Noel Waggener, one of the station's founders, said the crackdown was related to a court case involving a San Marcos pirate radio station, KIND, operated by Joe Ptak. That station stopped operating recently after a court order, Waggener said. Another reason for the shutdown of Radio One, Waggener said, is that an estimated 150 corporate leaders are coming to Austin next week for the Fortune 500 forum. "We expose news and information pertaining to corporations' abuse of human rights here in America," he said. The FCC has closed down unlicensed community-based radio stations across the United States in the past few years, including stations in Berkeley, Calif., and Tampa, Fla. Agents found out about Radio One in Austin -- tucked away behind a gray, nondescript house in a modest neighborhood -- by reading about it on the Internet. According to the lawsuit filed in Austin federal court, agent Loyd Perry logged on to Austin 360.com and read an article from The Austin American-Statesman that described a new pirate radio station. The article quoted Waggener saying that as a gesture of civil disobedience the station wasn't going to apply for a license. Perry used electronic equipment to track the source of the radio signals and found the station, the lawsuit said. The FCC sent the station a letter in May warning operators to shut down because it was unlicensed, but it never received a reply, the court document said. But Rob Wilson, who helped found the station, said the station sent a reply asking for a waiver. Radio One didn't apply for a license because it costs about $20,000, Wilson said. The FCC was offering only one or two licenses for low-powered FM stations in the Austin area, and Radio One figured it would not get one because of intense competition from other groups such as churches, Wilson said. "We wanted to give the people in the community a voice on FM airwaves," Wilson said. You may contact Claire Osborn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 445-3630. Security Detail By Patrick Beach American-Statesman Staff Thursday, October 5, 2000 As many as 150 of the country's richest moguls are coming to Austin for the big Fortune 500 summit this month. With murmurs of protests in addition to the usual security concerns that go with such an event, you're likely to see more edgy-looking guys in suits than when George W. Bush comes to town to pick up his mail. Those would be the bodyguards, the Kevlar-vested, concealed-weapon-carrying, surveillance-mike-talking-into paid protectors of the very rich and very targetable. Here then, a bodyguard FAQ: What's a bodyguard? In Texas, it's a private security officer who, in addition to being licensed to carry a concealed weapon, has had additional
Re: [CTRL] Konformist: Homosexual-Recruitment Drive Nearing Goal (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- And this one is from theonion.com I only mention this because some readers who are unable to distinguish satire from fact are likely to take this at face value and start watching out for gay missionaries come to convert them. PS The gay missionaries dress a lot like Jehovas witnesses, and sometimes pretend to be Witnesses or 7th day adventists to get in your front door. You have been warned. On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:56:26 -0300 Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:33:59 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Konformist: Homosexual-Recruitment Drive Nearing Goal -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9068/6/_/1406/_/970342522/ -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com Homosexual-Recruitment Drive Nearing Goal SAN FRANCISCO -- Spokespersons for the National Gay Lesbian Recruitment Task Force announced Monday that more than 288,000 straights have been converted to homosexuality since Jan. 1, putting the group well on pace to reach its goal of 350,000 conversions by the end of the year. "Thanks to the tireless efforts of our missionaries nationwide, in the first seven months of this year, nearly 300,000 heterosexuals were ensnared in the Pink Triangle," said NGLRTF co-director Patricia Emmonds. "Clearly, the activist homosexual lobby is winning." Emmonds credited much of the recruiting success to the gay lobby's infiltration of America's public schools, where programs promoting the homosexual lifestyle are regularly presented to children as young as 5. "It's crucial that we reach these kids while they're still young," Emmonds said. "That's when they're most vulnerable to our message of sexual promiscuity and deviance." "When I grow up, I want to be gay," said Christopher Linn, 8, a second-grader at Philadelphia's Lakeside Elementary School, one of thousands of public schools nationwide that actively promote the homosexual agenda. "I don't want to have a family or go to church." "Straight people don't have any fun," said Teddy Nance, 11, after watching Breeders Are Boring!, an anti-heterosexual filmstrip, in his fifth-grade class at Crestwood Elementary School in Roanoke, VA. "Gay people get to do whatever they want." In addition to school programs that target youths, the NGLRTF launched a $630 million advertising campaign this year in an effort to convert adults to homosexuality. The campaign, which features TV and radio spots, as well as print advertising in major national magazines, has helped convince thousands of people to leave their spouses and families for a life of self-gratification and irresponsibility. "The gay lifestyle is for me," said James Miller, an Oklahoma City father of four who recently moved to Provincetown, MA, to pursue a career in bath-house management. "When I was a family man, I constantly had to worry about things like taking the kids to Little League practice, paying for their braces, and remembering my wife's birthday. But now that I'm gay, I'm finally free to focus all my energy on having non-stop, mind-blowing anal sex." Though Emmonds said gays have been tremendously successful in tearing at the fabric of society and subverting basic decency, she stressed that their work is far from over. "For all the progress we've made, America is still overwhelmingly heterosexual," said Emmonds, who is calling for an additional $2.6 billion in federal aid to further the gay agenda. "If we are to insidiously penetrate American society, as we constantly do each other's orifices, we need more money and resources. Without such help, this country will remain the domain of decent, moral, God-fearing Christians. And that would be a sin." Copyright (c) 2000 Onion, Inc., All rights reserved. If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
[CTRL] [2] The Conspiracy of Death
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Conspiracy of Death George Redston w/ Kendell F. Crossen @1965 George Redston Kendell F. Crossen ALL RIGHTS RESERVED LCCCN 65:26505 The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc. 248 pps -- First Edition -- Out-of-print --[2]-- 3. ORANGES AND "JUICE" THE LATE Fred Allen once said that California was a great place to go to if you were an orange. Following their successes in Chicago and New York, the Mafia-controlled Syndicate decided it was also a fine place for them. They started carefully, putting out various feelers, but they were already beginning to move by the time I arrived from Texas. Anthony Rizzoti, better known as Jack Dragna, had already lived in California for many years. As early as 1915 he was sentenced to San Quentin for attempted extortion and was released three years later. It was to be the only time he ever spent in prison although he was arrested many times in the following years. It was generally known that he was important in the Mafia leadership, second only to John Rosselli, "Don" or Mafia leader in the Southwest area. The first gang execution of an important member had already taken place before I arrived. Harry "Big Greenie" Greenberg had a record as a gunman, burglar and bookmaker and was thought to be a part of the Syndicate, but he must have gotten out of line for he was killed in Hollywood on November 22, 1939. No one was ever convicted of the murder although there were three suspects. They were Frank Carbo, Harry M. Segal, and Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, the latter in Los Angeles in connection with the plans to organize California. I arrived in Los Angeles shortly after all of this had happened. As a result of my trial and three years in prison I was broke and in debt. I had previously worked for the Continental Press Service in Chicago and in Texas. This was a wire service selling race results to bookmakers all over the United States. By subscribing to its services, bookmakers could receive results on a horse race anywhere in the country shortly after it was over. This brought them more bets and also protected them against individuals who might arrange to get results before the bookmaker did and put in a bet on a horse that had already won. Continental was owned by Jim Ragen, originally a partner with Annenberg, and he and I were good friends. I went to see Russell Brophy, Ragen's son-in-law and head of the Los Angeles office for Continental, and told him I wanted a job. He checked with Ragen in Chicago and I went on the payroll. Before I knew what was happening, I was up to my neck in the same kind of characters I'd known in Chicago. A wire service was not only extremely profitable; it was also essential to the existence of many independent bookmakers. The Syndicate was well aware of this and they wanted to get their hands on Continental because it would mean they could also control bookmaking. They first tried to buy Continental but Ragen refused. Then they suggested that they give Ragen $100,000 for a part interest in Continental and that Ragen could still run it. He was smart enough to know that they would let him stay around just long enough to learn everything he knew about the business, so he refused again. In the meantime, Jack Dragna and his men were working on Russell Brophy in Los Angeles, hoping to cut in on the local office. They had been getting scratch sheets (a daily publication giving information about which horses have been withdrawn from a race, morning odds on the horses and the choices of various handicappers), bookmakers' sheets and the Metropolitan, which gave more detailed information about the horses running that day. Ragen ordered Brophy to make sure that none of the gang got those publications in the future. With that, they stepped up their campaign of terror against Brophy. Brophy wasn't the man his father-in-law was and he began to (yet nervous. He wanted Ragen to do business with the Syndicate. I had several arguments with him about it and finally quit. Ragen called me the next day and asked me to come to Chicago. I went and he put me on his personal payroll to keep him as well informed as I could about what was going on in Los Angeles. Ragen did sell a minor interest in Continental to Mickey McBride in Cleveland, Ohio. McBride had once worked with Continental and wanted to buy the interest for his son who was then in the Army. There was no connection there with the Syndicate, so Rauen took him in. While the Syndicate did not let up on Ragen or Brophy, they did start a rival wire service, which they had often threatened to do. It was called Trans-America. They leased wires from Western Union, established their headquarters in Phoenix, Arizona, and a secondary franchise in Las Vegas, Nevada. Moe Sedway, long in the organization, was sent to Nevada to operate it. Sedway was also an old friend of Bugsy Siegel. He arrived in Las Vegas in 1941 and it was soon obvious how it was to be run. Gambling was legal in Nevada,
Re: [CTRL] Hetro Scout Shenanigans!
-Caveat Lector- From: "Yardbird" This incident occurred in Canada and seems to highlight a concern made by Americans who support the BSA - that placing young children in intimate circumstances with sleazy adults who may exploit such an environment to sexually abuse those children is a very real concern. In this case a hetero male used precisely such an opportunity to prey on girls so why isn't it equally valid to think that a homo predator would use a similar situation to steal some Cub's Fruit o' the Looms? Because you seem to have missed the bit that it was another MALE leader who apprehended the pervert stealing Brownies' underpants. In other words, not all heterosexuals are pedophiles. Just as all homosexuals are not pedophiles. June I really believe it was you June who missed Yardbirds point. June lets face it NOBODY is arguing that pedophilia is either: a) predetermined by an individuals sexual orientation. or b) precluded by an individuals sexual orientation. You know it, I know it, the whole list knows it. Whether or not the culprit was caught by a male or female is in this case irrelevent and moot. If the BSA was to allow homosexual men to be scout leaders, whom would the pedophile segment of that group prey on? Boys obviously. And if the BSA also had some HETEROsexual leaders who were ALSO pedophiles whom would they prey on? NOBODY because there's no young girls in the boy scouts. So IOW that would leave the pedophile percentage of the homosexual population with their choice of sexual conquest at their disposal. Whereas the hetero-pedophiles would still have NOBODY to molest. Basically you've said time and time again June that you'd like to see the ONLY group with any reasonable feasibility of molesting boy scouts allowed to participate. Can you explain that? I think we all agree here June that pedophiles come in both flavors my question is: Which one will be molesting the boys? Mike Smith A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CNN: FR: Justice Department subpoenas The Gap in debate tape probe
-Caveat Lector- http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39de85126674.htm Justice Department subpoenas The Gap in debate tape probe CNN Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas and CNN Producer Jack Date October 6, 2000 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Justice Department investigators have subpoenaed clothing retailer The Gap in connection with their probe into how debate preparation materials from Republican presidential nominee George W. Bush wound up in the hands of a supporter of his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore. Sources familiar with the investigation say Yvette Lozano, an employee of Maverick Media, was seen by a Post Office surveillance camera mailing a package at around the same time of day the materials Gore adviser Tom Downey received would have been sent. Maverick Media is a consulting firm run by Bush media consultant Mark McKinnon. Lozano has told reporters the package she was seen with contained a pair of pants she was sending back to The Gap for her boss, Mark McKinnon. Law enforcement officials subpoenaed The Gap, Inc. for records related to the pants. A spokesman for The Gap tells CNN the company is cooperating with the subpoena. The move is part of the FBI's attempt to establish a clear timeline and to assess Lozano's veracity as she remains the primary focus of the investigation. Several employees of Maverick Media and officials in the Bush campaign have been interviewed and fingerprinted by the FBI. Downey received the debate preparation material, sent from an Austin post office, and turned it over to authorities. The package included a tape of Bush's debate preparations and written materials. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Lubavitcher reveals why Christians are evil
-Caveat Lector- --- Justine Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a reply to something Justine forwarded to me from another list, supposedly written by a Lubavitcher Jew who therefore believes the late Rebbe Menachem M. Schneerson is the Jewish Messiah. (The "son of sneer? How apropos with regard to Lord Jesus Christ and the devil who sneers.) Obviously, therefore, the future world civilization is to be built upon Rebbe Schneerson's shoulder according to the supposed "laws" of ancient Bronze Age Judaism? I stand by my interpretation of the site as a piece of anti-Semitic disinformation, and a badly written one at that.. Schneerson died in 1994, and as of today, still has not risen.. kinda puts the kabosh on any claim of him being the Messiah. Jewish "God" and His "Laws" must be fairly impotent since human civilization is now largely founded upon The New Testament, via Anglo-Protestant USA, Does this include China, Japan, France, Italy, Greece, etc., or are they not civilizations? of Judaism, not Christianity? Judaic law, talmudic and otherwise, is perfect? The Jewish laws are set down in the Torah, also known as the Pentateuch or the Five Books of Moses, to Christians. The Talmud is non-binding rabbinical commentary. lived just over the next hill? Since this Lubavitcher is so fundamentalist, I suppose s/he believes Christian civilization is to be destroyed Being that he is still dead, I don't know that he can believe in much of anything. all Christians "worship Jesus instead of God." Thus, is marxist-leninism really a Judaic politikal means to this babylonian talmudic end? marxist-leninism is atheistic: that means they don't believe ANY God exists. A lot of data are available that seem to point to this possibility: the 3,500-year old religion of Judaism teaches that idol worshippers are to be exterminated from the face of the Earth as quickly as possible by any and all means possible, exactly what marxist-leninism also decrees about Christians. And every other religion, including Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. Since Judaism teaches that all Christians are idol worshippers (along with everyone else in the world who is not Jewish), what do orthodox Jews, such as Sen. LIEberman, actually believe? Why don't you ask him? So, "laws" that applied to the Bronze Age also apply to the Space Age and thermonuclear warfare? Nothing changes? A cigar is always just a cigar? How absurd. What a brood of vipers haughtily making busy with their scales as they measure tit for tat according to their own manner of self-righteousness. Are you saying that the Bible is changeable to fit the times? H, maybe that's where Klinton got his modus vivendi. In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone who would rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and who should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12). Jesus was crucified, a penalty reserved strictly for rebels against the ROMAN occupiers of Judea. Had Jesus blasphemed against Judaism, they would have stoned him to death, not turned him over to Rome. Can't be Jesus being referred to. sinless? How absurd. If they were so sinless, why then the need for a Messiah? The Messiah, in Judaism, is not considered a Savior in the Christian sense. He was expected to be the one to liberate the Jews from Roman domination. But the false prophet would challenge the authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil man. See above. their forefathers. I am so very sick of religious fundamentalism and its "horned" boogymen and its own manners of self-righteousness. Does this include Christian and Islamic fundamentalism? ALL Old Testament prophesy became obsolete in AD 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem, according to the "curse" of Malachi 4:6. Which reads: (verse 5, for context): Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: (v.6) And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Not a word about OT prophecy, or the destruction of the Temple. This "learned" wo/man is seriously pondering what a middle eastern tribal prophet mused some 2,600-years ago. Okay. Talk about living in the past, even worshipping the past. This would include most practitioners of the world's major religions. According to Jews who worship the idol of their now damned religion. What is: God / \ Adam Eve Hmmm. Could it be a trinity? What would Adam and Eve have become if they had not fallen? The Image of God and the Spiritual Parents of Humankind in the Kingdom of Heaven ON Earth? That's the Mormons, not the Jews. Lord Jesus did not suffer fools easily, and especially haughty religious fools and their petty "religious" beliefs,
[CTRL] The India-China Opium Trade in the Nineteenth Century
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=rsac=dpqi=wvMvydNRw475xkyAlbo40TwwvM94Z Yo4:117:402:1:1bs=amazonbu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eamazon%2Ecom%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2 FASIN%2F0786407158%2Fbookfindercom0eoh=1 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=rsac=dpqi=wvMvydNRw475xkyAlbo40Tw wvM94ZYo4:117:402:1:1bs=amazonbu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eamazon%2Ecom%2Fexec%2Fob idos%2FASIN%2F0786407158%2Fbookfindercom0eoh=1"Book Information from Amazon.com/A - The India-China Opium Trade in the Nineteenth Century by Hunt Janin Shopping with us is 100% safe. Guaranteed. (We'll set one up for you) View my Wish List Our Price: $39.95 Availability: This title is currently on back order. We expect to be able to ship it to you within 3-5 weeks. See larger photo Hardcover (October 28, 1999) McFarland Company; ISBN: 0786407158 Amazon.com Sales Rank: 962,452 Editorial Reviews Book Description From 1823 to 1860 a fleet of small, fast brigs and schooners carried chests of opium from India to China, often facing the challenges of pirates and typhoons along the way. This shadowy trade, conducted by American, British, and Indian firms, thrived despite its moral and legal consequences. This is a highly literate and fast-reading account of the opium trade and its attendant dangers, including the Opium Wars and disasters both natural and man-made. Drawing largely on primary sources, the story of the opium trade comes through in the voices of those who saw it firsthand. Appendices describe a favorite shipboard recipe, two of the ships involved in the trade and their crews, excerpts from accounts of the Opium War, and language equivalents for proper and place names. A bibliography is included, and maps and photographs help illumine this important and unusual period of history. About the Author Hunt Janin is a writer and researcher specializing in international issues and history. He holds degrees from Stanford University and the University of California at Berkeley. He was also a Fellow in Middle Eastern Studies at Harvard University and served in the United States Marine Corps Reserve. A native Californian, he lives in Vignoble, France. © 1996-2000, Amazon.com, Inc. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The American Missionaries, the Mandarins, and the Opium War : Circa 1839 to 1911
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=rsac=dpqi=wvMvydNRw475xkyAlbo40TwwvM94Z Yo4:134:422:1:1bs=amazonbu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eamazon%2Ecom%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2 FASIN%2F0967370809%2Fbookfindercom0eoh=1 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=rsac=dpqi=wvMvydNRw475xkyAlbo40Tw wvM94ZYo4:134:422:1:1bs=amazonbu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eamazon%2Ecom%2Fexec%2Fob idos%2FASIN%2F0967370809%2Fbookfindercom0eoh=1"Book Information from Amazon.com/A - The American Missionaries, the Mandarins, and the Opium War : Circa 1839 to 1911 by Dominic S. F. Lee Our Price: $35.00 Availability: On Order; usually ships within 1-2 weeks. Hardcover - (April 21, 2000) 362 pages Editorial Reviews Book Description The American Missionaries, The Mandarins, and the Opium War by Dominic Shi Fong Lee, P.E. is the story of Mr. Lee's family in service to the Qing Dynasty's government in the 1800's. Mr. Lee, as the oldest son in his family, received much family history in the form of published and unpublished manuscripts, paintings and scrolls after his father passed away in San Francisco. The American Missionaries is of great historical value for its first person accounts of the people and life in China in the 1800's. The book has over 200 pictures, historical oil paintings, scrolls, photos, Chinese songs and poetries in original Chinese version at the end of each chapter. It is written with much historical accuracy about the entire episode of the Opium War between China and Great Britian in 1838 to 1842. The story of American missiionaries caught in Canton's thirteen factory compound, his great-grandfather, Lee Chee Cheng, served as personal aide to Commissioner Lin Tse-Hsu, who was the architect to suppress the Opium trade and the love story of Chee Cheng with the daughter of an American Missionary, Susan King. As time progresses, Chee Cheng withnessed the Tai Ping Rebellion, the mistreatment of Chinese in the USA and his friendship with Mark Twain, America's favorite writer during his time. His son, Chuen Shek was also a Mandarin who served in the Qing's Army as an amry officer. He also withnessed the Chinese Japanese war in 1895, the Boxer Rebellion in the 1900 where hundreds of American Missionaries, doctors and nurses were beheaded by the Qing's officals and the Boxers. The accounts were horrible and were never been published in any other document. He also witness the Japan Russian War in 1905 which was fought in Chinese soil. Later he secretly joined Dr. Sun Yet Sen's Alliance Association in Japan, and helped Dr. Sun overthrow the Qing government, which ended 267 years of Manchu rule in China in 1911. From the Publisher Throughout the text, the author uses every opportunity to tell a favorite Chinese story or to explain particular Chinese poetry. The stories are wonderful and the poetry is exquisite. The reader experiences a range of emotions with the American Missionarieswe are happy when Chee Cheng and Susan marry and envy their wonderful honeymoon. We are angry with the British for the Opium crisis and their greed. Treaty after treaty leaves China with less and less of itself intact; it is a severely troubled histroy. The various rebellions were horrifying. Most interesting is that in the beginning, Chinese histroy records belief in One God, creator and the flood. The history of Missornary work to China was recorded in detail and is of a great historical value. This book has over 200 pictures, oil paintings, photos, scrolls, and Chinese songs and poetries in original Chinese version at the end of every chapter, which are related to the stories of the text and is a joy to read for readers who know both Chinese and English languages. The Chinese translation of the e ntire book is also avaiable for extra cost. It is a very delightful book to read fo the person who wants to learn about Chinese culture, literature, traditions, the history of China in the 19th century, and the Missionaries who were responsible to bring the Good News to Chinese population. It is an extraordinary work for which the author should be commended. About the Author Dominic Shi Fong Lee is the grandson of Lee Chuen Shek and the great-grandson of Lee Chee Cheng. He was born in Hong King during the Japanese-Chinese War. He is the oldest of the late Thomas Tung Hai Lee and Theresa Kin Mo Ho Lee who now resides in San Francisco, California. Dominic Shi Fong Lee was educated in Macau and Hong Kong at the Tang King Po High School, where he excelled in Chinese literature and history. He continued to study the Chinese classics with help of his father and became a Confucian scholar. He loves Chinese poetry and essays. He is one of the few Confucian scholars who understands Chinese and western culture and civilization in the U.S. Mr. Lee cames to U.S. to study engineering at the University of Missouri where he received a B.S. Electrical
[CTRL] Opium, State, and Society : China's Narco-Economy and the Guomindang, 1924-1937
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AWASH IN ERRORS,
TIMES METRO DESK RECRUITS CORRECTIONS CZAR
Friday , October 06 11:32 a.m.
"We have a problem. We're making too many mistakes." That dramatic lede comes
straight from the desk of New York Times metro editor Jonathan Landman, who
used it to kick off a cranky internal e-mail to his staffers on Thursday. The
gist of Landman's missive: Start double-checking your stories -- or else. "It
isn't a pretty picture," Landman writes, going on to say that during the first
nine months of this year, the metro section ran 253 corrections, 50 more than
during the same period in 1999. Landman ticks off some of the more egregious
errata: "One reporter put something into a story aware that it might be wrong,
hoping the desk would catch it. Another thought something was OK to print
because she read it in a book. A copy editor let a mistake go by rather than
persevering in an unpleasant fight with a reporter."
Landman doesn't mention Wen Ho Lee. But his note comes just a week after some
hardcore soul-searching elsewhere at the Times over the Lee affair, in which a
nuclear scientist was suspected of leaking nuclear secrets to China. Facing
criticism of its early, somewhat high-pitched coverage, the Times ran two
assessments of its Lee stories and editorials, both of them admitting to some
less-than-exemplary editorial judgment.
Back at the wayward metro desk, Landman writes that the Times metro desk has
handed a whip-cracking editor named Patrick LaForge the very Soviet-sounding
title of "corrections commissioner." LaForge's role is to force erring writers
and editors to explain in writing why they goofed and how they might have
avoided the mistake. Habitual offenders will have to answer to Landman himself,
who warns that frequent mistakes will weigh on employees' annual evaluations.
In sum, writes Landman, "We all need to worry a little bit more."
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The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational
tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the
State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate
repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the
"democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist
by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse
of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of
taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between
the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that
the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State
has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to
accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a
share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
subjects.
[[For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto, Murray N. Rothbard,
Fox Wilkes, 1973, 1978, p. 25]]
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