Re: [CTRL] WT: Clinton's global warming time bomb
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, mirage wrote: For good advice see Matthew 7: 1 - 5 Done that! SO? = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Brokers Exploit Absentee Voters - Elderly Are Top Targets for Fraud Glenn R. Simpson and Even Perez The Wall Street Journal December 19, 2000 FORT STOCKTON, Texas -- When candidates need a little extra help winning an election here, they reach out to Candida Rangel, a 72-year-old grandmother who is the acknowledged expert at rustling up votes from elderly Hispanics in this dusty town. Working for a candidate for district attorney in March, Ms. Rangel collected about 240 absentee ballots from local senior citizens, many of them illiterate Mexican immigrants who don't speak English. One, 79-year-old Zacarias Leyva, says Ms. Rangel showed up at his tiny house on an unmarked dirt road shortly after his ballot arrived in the mail, offering to help him fill it out -- with a vote for her employer. "She told me the other guy was no good, and she wanted me to vote for this other one," he recalls. After he agreed, "She filled out the card, I signed it, and she took it," he says. Ms. Rangel, who was paid $6 an hour by the candidate, denies she told anybody how to vote; still, a local judge, after hearing sworn testimony from Mr. Leyva and others, overturned the election result. Incidents such as these illustrate a little-publicized downside to the nationwide surge in absentee voting. In an attempt to increase voter participation, many states have liberalized vote-by-mail laws. But they also have loosened already tenuous safeguards against fraud. With old-style ballot-box stuffing impractical these days, election-law experts say, the growth of absentee voting has provided new opportunities to cheat. It has also spawned a mini-industry of consultants who get out the absentee vote, sometimes using questionable techniques. In some parts of Texas, they are known as politiqueras, roughly translated as vote brokers. "There's not an experienced election official in Texas that will tell you this is not a problem," says Austin attorney Randall "Buck" Wood, a specialist in election contests who typically represents Democrats. "This doesn't become an issue when a race isn't close. But show me a close race, and I'll show you voter fraud." It's hardly limited to Texas. In recent years, absentee-ballot fraud cases have cropped up from California to Florida to Pennsylvania. According to government records, news accounts and database searches, there have been at least two dozen major cases in 17 states since the beginning of 1996. Most involve allegations of undue influence -- a crime that is particularly well-suited to voting by mail. It is illegal in most states for campaign workers to come within 100 feet of a polling place on Election Day, to prevent them from telling a voter which candidate to choose. But it's much tougher to police the law when a voter's home becomes the polling place and there is no single Election Day, as is the case with voting by mail. Since there is no booth to provide privacy, an unethical campaign worker can also monitor the ballot-marking and ensure a sales pitch isn't wasted. Predictably, the elderly are prime targets, both because states are more likely to give them mail-in voting privileges and because they are viewed as easier to manipulate. "Just as they are victims of a number of scams and con games, they can also fall victim to voter fraud," says Hugh Cochran, a former Federal Bureau of Investigation agent in Miami who now investigates absentee fraud for private clients. After a series of absentee-ballot frauds involving elderly voters in Florida -- including a scandal in the 1997 Miami mayoral race that led a judge to throw out 4,500 ballots and overturn the election -- the state tightened its fraud controls. It is now illegal for one person to sign as a witness on more than five absentee ballots, unless the person is acting in an official state capacity. The law also provides for representatives of the secretary of state to supervise votes in nursing homes to ensure that no one is coerced, and to prevent obviously mentally incompetent people from voting. Coercion isn't the only problem, though. This fall, a Pittsburgh-area businessman pleaded guilty to charges of trying to fix a district-attorney race by forging signatures on hundreds of absentee ballots. He obtained the ballots simply by requesting them in the names of registered voters, and asking that they be mailed to the homes of several associates. He received probation. The spate of cases probably results from recently liberalized vote-by-mail laws. Absentee voting began in the Civil War, when Northern states enacted numerous measures to protect the rights of soldiers at war. For more than a century, absentee voting was largely a privilege of the military. In the late 1970s, states began liberalizing their absentee-voting rules amid concerns about low voter participation. That trend accelerated greatly in the 1990s as worries about turnout heightened, although there is little
[CTRL] NM: Hillary's Book Set to Open Old Wounds for Foster's Widow
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Wednesday Dec. 20, 2000; 7:04 p.m. EST Hillary's Book Set to Open Old Wounds for Foster's Widow Elizabeth "Lisa" Moody, who was widowed in July 1993 when her then-husband Vince Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park, may be in for still more heartache in the months to come thanks to the $8 million book deal Hillary Clinton signed last week to pen a tell-all about her private life. One of the topics Clinton is expected to deal with in order to justify her whopping advance is her relationship with the late deputy White House counsel, according to a published report in a supermarket weekly with close ties to the administration. Reportedly the book will reveal, "the depth of Vince Foster's obession for Hillary -- and the emotional trauma she suffered over his suicide," reports this week's National Enquirer, which boasts of a legal staff headed up by the Clintons' personal scandal lawyer David Kendall. In a comment sure to reopen old wounds for Lisa and Foster's three children, a Washington source told the tabloid Hillary is expected to "admit her feelings for longtime Clinton friend and White House aide Vince Foster, and say that he was in love with her She knows he was in love with her." "(Foster) gave her strength in the face of Bill's infidelities," the source added. "When Vince committed suicide, Hillary was screaming and crying. It was as though she'd lost a husband, not just a longtime friend." The first lady's decision to cash in now on Foster's memory is particularly cynical, since White House spinmeisters have for years invoked concern for the well-being of his family to block reporters' questions about his mysterious demise. Through five federal investigations into the 1993 tragedy, administration spokespeople repeatedly warned reporters not to "prolong the suffering of the Foster family." In January Clinton bristled when Buffalo, NY talk radio host Tom Bauerle asked her about rumors that she and Foster had an affair: BAUERLE: Mrs. Clinton, you're going to hate me. You were on television last night talking about your relationship with the president, Bill Clinton. Have you ever been sexually unfaithful to him, and specifically, the stories about you and Vince Foster -- any truth in them? HILLARY: Well, you know, Tom, I do hate you for that. Because, you know, those questions -- I think -- are really out of bounds. And everybody who knows me knows the answers to those questions. You know, I just... BAUERLE: Is the answer no? HILLARY: Well, yes. Of course it's no. For weeks afterward, Bauerle took a beating from reporters and pundits who criticized him for going over the line. But now, with a multi-million dollar book contract on the line, Mrs. Clinton is apparently ready to open up in a way that is sure to be painful for Foster's family. In 1995 Foster's wife got remarried to James Moody, an Arkansas judge appointed by President Clinton. As the wedding approached, Lisa Moody sat for an interview with The New Yorker magazine, where she discussed rumors that her first husband had cheated with Hillary. In its September 1995 issue, The New Yorker reported: "In December of 1993, her first Christmas without Vince, (Lisa) was home alone and received a call from her Washington attorney. He told her that 'A Current Affair,' a tabloid TV show, was about to broadcast a rumor that he knew would upset her -- allegations by Arkansas state troopers that Vince and Hillary Clinton had had an affair. "Lisa broke down. She left her house sobbing, and walked three blocks to a Catholic seminary, and there she sat beneath a statue of the Blessed Mother. 'I cried my eyes out for forty-five-minutes,' she recalls. 'I thought. This is more than I can take.'" Foster's widow told The New Yorker that she never believed the Hillary-Vince rumors were true. "One reason I believe there's nothing to it is the way he treated me. I mean, I just don't think somebody is a loving husband and treats me the way he would treat me if he's having an affair, whether it's with Hillary or with anybody else. "And the second reason is, I don't think Hillary would do it. I mean, she's the mother of Chelsea, and there's Bill. The type of friendship she and Bill had was not a romantic one." What if the Enquirer report turns out to be just a promotion to gin up interest in Clinton's book -- and the first lady actually has no intention of discussing her relationship with Foster? If so, the Foster family won't know one way or the other till 2003, the publication date for Hillary's tell-all. Until then they can only wait and wonder what Mrs. Clinton is willing to say that might embarass them and shame the memory of the man they remember only as a good husband and father. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL
[CTRL] WSJ: Veritas and Vietnam
-Caveat Lector- Veritas and Vietnam Gore president of Harvard? What will the antiwar protesters do? BY SETH LIPSKY Thursday, December 21 2000 12:01 a.m. EST A rare uncomfortable moment in my long love affair with Harvard occurred at the 25th reunion of my class. A "teach-in" had been assembled to talk about Vietnam from the perspective of a generation. A veteran of the war, I'd been invited to speak but had demurred. Five classmates spoke of their experiences during the war and the struggle against it. One, Peter Francis Hagerty, told how he found himself on a destroyer headed for the Gulf of Tonkin and refused an order to declare his vessel combat-ready. He was threatened with court-martial, but the Navy "backed down," as he also put it in a written entry in the class report, "when faced with the prospect of an Ivy League Officer rotting in their jail." Less than a year later, he told us, the ship blew up her forward gun mount, killing or blinding many of the crew. After the Navy, he went to Vietnam to help a left-wing legal defense team for GIs. While visiting a pagoda in the Mekong Delta, he encountered a Viet Cong patrol. He said he spent hours talking to them about baseball and girlfriends. Later, he founded a company called Soviet American Woollens, to trade with the Russians. Now, he told the reunion with what I took to be a tone of irony, he was forming a company to trade with that other enemy of America, the Palestinian Arabs. When this was greeted with an ovation, I walked out. I left the building and stepped into the sunshine. My wife and son were frolicking there. I said I'd decided to go home, though the reunion had just begun. We held hands as we walked through Harvard Yard to the Freshman Union, where we got a refund. And then we drove back to New York. My reminiscence is prompted by reports that Al Gore has been nominated to be Harvard's next president. It's a long shot, to be sure. There are already 500 nominees. Mr. Gore is a distinguished graduate and a former Harvard Overseer. But the Boston Globe quotes a senior fellow of the Harvard Corp., which makes the decision, who says that while Mr. Gore will get serious consideration, he lacks academic credentials. Mr. Gore's friend Martin Peretz, a member of the faculty and editor-in-chief of The New Republic, tells me that there's nothing serious to the news reports. "The president of Harvard is the emperor of Japan," he said, meaning that it is an honorific post. "The only thing you can do," he added, "is mischief." To which I found myself thinking that one could say that about the U.S. vice presidency too--witness the Kyoto Treaty. Despite the temptation to crack wise, however, I find myself thinking that there would be a certain logic to bringing Mr. Gore in to even a ceremonial position at Harvard. And it gets back to my sentiments at that reunion. I've found myself thinking during this campaign that there is a fact about Mr. Gore that I admire--his decision to throw off the perks of privilege and enlist for Vietnam. He and I were two of but a handful of Harvard guys from that generation who made it a point to serve in Vietnam. I've never met Mr. Gore. He was class of '69, I of '68. But we both went, and were both Army journalists there, he for an Army engineering command newspaper and I for the Pacific Stars and Stripes. On election eve, he told the New York Times how Vietnam was much more complicated than the antiwar movement made it out to be. I had hoped that he'd explain this in the campaign. He could have helped unravel the knot that has since bedeviled our foreign policy. It was but one of the opportunities he missed in the election, but I can't help thinking how nice it would be if someone in high office at Harvard could explain it to the students there. How fitting it would be if one of the handful who did go from Harvard to Vietnam ended up as head there. If, in the course of things, Mr. Gore were able to get it together for another run for the White House, more power to him. And if not, he'd still be able to enter a room and have people call him president. Mr. Lipsky is a contributing editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column appears Wednesdays. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups
[CTRL] AP: Journalism Group Can't Sue
-Caveat Lector- Journalism group can't sue over 'politically motivated' audit By DAVID KRAVETS Associated Press Writer SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that a nonprofit investigative journalism group cannot sue the Internal Revenue Service over accusations that a business audit was politically motivated. The Western Journalism Center claimed that the White House retaliated with an audit after the conservative group suggested presidential lawyer Vincent Foster did not commit suicide, as investigators found, but was murdered. A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the center should have filed the suit within a year after learning of the IRS audit in 1996. The IRS found no discrepancies and the journalism group, based in the Sacramento suburb of Fair Oaks, claimed it was targeted as a payback for its reporting. Although the panel upheld a decision from a federal court in Sacramento, it did so for different reasons. While the panel said the group's suit was barred by the statute of limitations, a lower court said the IRS could not be sued on allegations of politically motivated auditing practices. In a separate but concurring opinion, panelist Judge Stephen Reinhardt said the IRS could be sued for such acts and noted that the three-judge panel did not address the issue. Under the argument IRS lawyers offered, "the government would be insulated against liability for its attempt to suppress the type of criticism that forms the very core of speech protected by the First Amendment," Reinhardt wrote. The judge's concurring opinion is not binding, however, and may open the door to similar lawsuits in the nine western states the circuit covers. Reinhardt noted that the Denver-based 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed with him. "This should be a warning to the IRS: Don't go messing with people because of their politics," said Larry Klayman, the journalism center's attorney. The IRS said fewer than 1 percent of the 6,000 to 10,000 audits of tax-exempt groups each year originate with complaints from lawmakers or the White House. The White House forwards about 1,300 constituent letters each year to the IRS, ranging from complaints of wrongdoing to obscure tax questions. The case is Western Journalism Center vs. Ceder Quist, 99-35377 = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP: Appeals panel unsure whether Idaho can charge FBI sharpshooter
-Caveat Lector- Appeals panel unsure whether Idaho can charge FBI sharpshooter DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, December 20, 2000 Breaking News Sections (12-20) 18:13 PST SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff was briefly relived in a courtroom Wednesday during a closely watched case that tests whether federal agents are immune to state prosecutions. While two prominent attorneys recounted the death of white separatist Randy Weaver's wife form an FBI sharpshooter's rifle, 11 judges of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals did not indicate whether Boundary County, Idaho prosecutors could try agent Lon T. Horiuchi on allegations of manslaughter. Inside an ornate San Francisco courthouse heavily guarded by federal marshals, the panel heard arguments to review its June decision that the Idaho county could not prosecute the sharpshooter for ``actions taken in pursuit of his duties as a federal law enforcement officer.'' Solicitor General Seth Waxman told the judges that it didn't matter whether Vicki Weaver's death was the result of excessive force. ``These federal law enforcement officials are privileged to do what would otherwise be unlawful if done by a private citizen,'' Waxman told the panel during an hour-long hearing. ``It's a fundamental function of our government.'' Judge Alex Kozinski was perplexed by the argument. ``If the Constitution does not provide limitations for federal agents' actions, then what does?'' he asked. Boundary County attorney Ramsey Clark, who was attorney general under the Johnson administration, said the court must reverse it's earlier decision in a case defining ``when government agents can kill with immunity.'' Much of the discussion focused on the facts surrounding Vicki Weaver's killing. Clark contended that if the facts are under dispute, the only way to resolve them is through a trial. Judge Susan Graber and other judges asked whether Horiuchi, who was not present in the courtroom, knew that the unarmed woman he killed was in the line of fire when he fired into Weaver's cabin. ``Reasonable people could differ whether Agent Horiuchi's actions were reasonable or not,'' she said. ``You really don't know the facts until you go to trial,'' Clark responded. Waxman said the facts were irrelevant and said federal agents subject to various state laws could ``chill'' the government's ability even to guard the president. Wednesday's rehearing stemmed from a request by Boundary County prosecutors, who argued in court papers that the shooting was done by a ``wild-headed government sniper.'' During the weeklong standoff at the Weaver cabin on northern Idaho's remote Ruby Ridge, Horiuchi shot and killed Weaver's wife and wounded family friend Kevin Harris. Witnesses have said the sharpshooter fired as Vicki Weaver held open the cabin door, her 10-month-old baby in her arms, to let Randy Weaver, their daughter and Harris back inside. Horiuchi maintains that he did not see Vicki Weaver when he fired at Harris, an armed associate of Randy Weaver who was ducking into the cabin as federal agents attempted to arrest Weaver on a weapons trafficking charge. The agent also said he fired to protect a government helicopter flying overhead. The federal government declined to prosecute Horiuchi. The Justice Department this summer announced the settlement of the last remaining civil lawsuit stemming from the standoff. The government admitted no wrongdoing, but paid Harris $380,000 to drop his $10 million civil damage suit. In 1995, the government paid Weaver and his three surviving children $3.1 million for the killing of Weaver's wife and their son, Samuel. The 14-year-old boy died in a shootout with a team of federal marshals that ignited the siege. A deputy marshal was also killed. The court did not indicate when it would rule. The case is Idaho vs. Horiuchi, 98-30149. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Panel blames stress for Gulf War ills
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It's obviously mass hysteria causing the vets to sicken and die, caused by less than
rational conspiracy theorists. Of course, it could be a simple case of mass radiation
poisoning, with which it shares numerous symptoms and has claimed many thousands of
lives aming the unfortunate populations of the battlezone.
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:24:49 -0800 Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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(STRESS?!? --SW)
WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 In its long-awaited report, a presidential panel
said the Pentagon did not cover anything up in investigating Gulf War
illness and concluded that stress is a likely cause of the vets ailments. One
of the seven panelists dissented, charging that the board lacked
independence from the Pentagon office it was overseeing. And the head of
one veterans advocacy group called the conclusion a whitewash.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/506236.asp
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Mad cow Copper Theory
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/2000 4:22:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since 1988 a Somerset farmer, Mark Purdey, has been arguing that scientists have overlooked the root causes of BSE. If this Mr. Purdey is correct, it has taken the The Ministry of Agriculture and the agrochemical industry twelve years to consider his theory. In those twelve years unimaginable harm has been done; and since it's a really, really small world, the harm has extended from Britain to Europe to various third world nations, and even to the other hemisphere. In the end, millions of livestock and who knows how many people will perhaps have died simply because a few large corporations and the members of the Ministry of Agriculture didn't want to examine and change profitable procedures. In other words life is too cheap to allow it to interfere with profit making and taking. What a shabby world we live in. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A knuckle sandwich for America?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/20001218_xcjny_a_knuckle_.shtml A knuckle sandwich for America? -- © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Get ready for a knuckle sandwich. Vladimir Putin is bringing together the old Soviet bloc into "one clenched fist." Together with China and India and Cuba and North Korea and Iran and Vietnam, etc., the Russians are openly saying they will put an end to America's global hegemony. But how will American hegemony be brought to an end? Well, in the first place, there is this growing anti-American alliance. Also, Russia has been involved for many years in secretive military preparations, the misuse of IMF funds, along with stealing and hacking. Hacking? Consider the fact that Bill Gates made a set of keys for the Kingdom of Internet -- a kingdom that increasingly looks down on every technical subsystem in the United States. Consider the fact that Russian hackers recently raided Mr. Gates' company, Microsoft, and stole the aforesaid keys. According to sources inside Microsoft's Redmond headquarters, the Russians penetrated Microsoft's defense system and stole Windows software and security codes. And what can be done with these security codes? Contrary to what you might think, Russian hackers are not petty criminals. They are soldiers in a war, interested in developing a sabotage capability against American banks, communications systems, the power grid and other basic utilities. Their objective is not to get rich by stealing software. Their objective is to defeat the United States by scrambling the brains of our computer subsystems. Now why would the Russians want to stop the motor of the world? Why would they contemplate a cyberattack on America? After all, where is the profit in bringing America to its knees? Russians inevitably want what Americans want. They want to wear blue jeans and eat burgers. They want Coca-Cola and a big American car with tail fins. Right? Think again, America. Don't believe everything you hear. Moscow has cleverly aimed your own capitalist preconceptions back at you. They have taken up your own slogans in order to put you to sleep. It is the ultimate form of flattery which they employ: "America is great, Russia has collapsed. Communism doesn't work." Behind the screen provided by this flattery, Russia's leaders can openly plot against us, talking to their allies about defeating the United States. Nonetheless, as this column pointed out on Thursday, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs simply says that Russia is not our enemy. He is more worried about China, which has but a fraction of Russia's power. Capitalism is victorious, we say. Socialism has failed and Russia wants to copy from our system. They want to copy, and they want to download off the Internet. Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Any war preparations in Russia are merely the pathetic jerkings of a long dead corpse. But a reversal is underway. According to Gen. William E. Odom, writing in the Wall Street Journal on Dec. 13, "A pseudo-Soviet normalcy is emerging in Russia as glasnost declines and perestroika gives way to new stagnation." Yes, a pseudo-Soviet normalcy is emerging in Russia. But Odom is wrong to think this signifies a "new stagnation." No, Gen. Odom, the Russian military economy has been upgraded and modernized. To offer one example, consider the new submarine the Russians launched last week. But we are caught up in Russia's lies. We still believe that only 40 or 50 fighter-bombers are being built every year in Russia. How, then, do we analyze Russia's voracious and unexplained consumption of electricity and metals? How do we explain intelligence reports that say thousands of Russian fighter-bombers are under construction? There is something wrong and we have to wake up. We must stop flattering ourselves with the idea that our free market system works while Russian socialism has failed. The fact is, our economic system is no more capitalist than Russia's was communist. As Ludwig von Mises pointed out decades ago, a genuine socialist economy in Russia would have meant a reversion to the stone age. And as everyone knows, Russia put the first man in space and built the first intercontinental rockets. This is not evidence of what Mises called socialism. It is something altogether different which once tagged itself as socialist. The truth is, Russia's economy is a radically different type of capitalist economy, in which consumer production is limited so that military production can be perfected. What we have called socialism in Russia is merely a system for restricting consumption by forcibly diverting all the best brains and
[CTRL] Interesting ice ring photo
-Caveat Lector- http://www.geocities.com/cpr-canada/delta00.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IBT Final Solution May Be Soon
-Caveat Lector- To all Patriots and Militia: The FBI contacted me yesterday. Agent Matt Fitzpatrick was plumbing for answers on what the militia will likely do and whether weapons are indeed being held within the IBT. He did divulge that the US Marshals "operate by their own rules," and that there is little interoperatability between the FBI and the Marshall Service, but that may be "good cop- bad cop" talk. Don't be fooled. As always, I answer with the "X=unknown variable" of the unthinkable happening. "Who knows what may happen," I answered, "Dr. Greg Dixon and Pastor Dixon have expressed their desire for peaceful non-violent civil disobedience, but who can say what will happen if the Marshals attack?" I told Mr. Fitzpatrick that if he had any clout with the Marshals, that they put off anything stupid until after a new Attorney General is appointed. Perhaps it'll buy time for the IBT. . . but I doubt it. I come to no conclusions on the reason why the FBI would be making such inquiries at this time. I neither respect nor trust the FBI any more than I trust the ATF or the Marshal Service. I've seen the worst of the FBI while in Montana during the Freeman Standoff. While some seem (on the surface) reasonable, many more have "blood in the eye" and are looking for a fight. Any way one cuts it, they are still agency people and will follow the orders of their masters. It is dangerous to think that any of them are independent thinkers or doers or that any of them will REALLY disobey orders when told to destroy innocent men, women and children. Their pattern of ruthlessness is well documented and among them are few, if any, heroes who will support and defend the Constitution or be willing to fight for God's principles and those of the Founding Fathers! Never forget that they are agency people. My gut feeling is that the FBI is fishing for measureable indicators to determine what might be the calculated fallout of a seizure within a short time. Are there guns? Will there be shooting? What will the militia do? Are there militia in Indianapolis? Etc. and etc. These are NOT the questions that would be raised if a long and protracted delay was the planned strategy of the federal goon squads. I expect that a move by the Special Forces of the Federal Gestapo is not far away. I would urge all those at the IBT to enlarge their civilian presence over the next couple weeks. Attack may be soon coming. Keep your video cameras ready. You may get what you want. Norm Olson, Cmdr. Northern Michigan Regional Militia Pastor, Freedom Church, Wolverine, MI __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media recount
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/20/2000 9:25:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Governor Jeb Bush said he wasn't sure what the media review would accomplish. "Everyone will have their own conclusion, and I'm not sure all this is going to solve anything," he said. I'm really surprised at his statement. I was positive he was pretty sure about the results. Isn't that why he pulled all those maneuvers? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ireland: CJD tainted vaccine
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/20/2000 9:49:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why are they vaccinating adults against polio anyway? Apart from being very rare, I thought it was only contracted by children? Franklin Roosevelt was an adult when he got polio. It can be contracted by anyone? The real question is--WHY are our vaccines contaminated? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Letter from the Gipper's son
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/21/2000 12:27:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second, we must take the media back from the knee-jerk doctrinaire left-wingers. To accomplish these two things, I recommend that you get a copy of the sensational and shocking new book by Christopher Ruddy and Carl Limbacher. It's called "Bitter Legacy: NewsMax.com Reveals the Untold Story of the Clinton-Gore Years." You can read more about this book at: http://www.newsmax.com/bitterlegacybook.shtml I'm trying to find the media controlled by the knee-jerk doctrinaire left-wingers. In the meantime all I can read is the junk from the knee-jerk doctrinaire right-wingers. And the last thing I want to waste my time on is another book slamming the Clintons. It's been done, done, done, over done. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RAEL Offers to Clone the Japanese Emperor
-Caveat Lector- http://library.northernlight.com/FB2000122005199.html?cb=0dx=1006sc=0# RAEL Offers to Clone the Japanese Emperor Who Still Has No Heir! LAS VEGAS, Dec 20, 2000 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following press release was issued today by CLONAID: CLONAID ( www.clonaid.com ), the first human cloning company, founded by RAEL ( www.rael.org ) is sending a letter to the future Japanese Emperor, Prince Naruhito, who has still no heir to succeed him, offering to clone him so the centuries long lineage of Japanese Emperors can continue. CLONAID is preparing the laboratories in the USA for the first human cloning attempt, for a 10-month-old American baby who was killed in a hospital due to a medical mistake. The clone should be born between the end of 2001 and 2002. CONTACT: Nadine Gary for CLONAID, 702-497-9186, or [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.rael.org http://www.prnewswire.com Copyright © 2000, PR Newswire, all rights reserved. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Panel finds Pentagon 'diligent' on Gulf War illness issue
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/21/2000 2:28:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) -- A presidential panel says the Pentagon has worked "diligently" and did not cover anything up in investigating Gulf War illness, a series of veterans' ailments still unexplained 10 years after the war. The head of one veterans' advocacy group called the conclusion "a whitewash." Wonderful. What a panel this must be. Do they do vote recounts? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Panel blames stress for Gulf War ills
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/21/2000 2:30:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 â In its long-awaited report, a presidential panel said the Pentagon did not cover anything up in investigating Gulf War illness and concluded that stress is a likely cause of the vetsâ ailments. One of the seven panelists dissented, charging that the board lacked independence from the Pentagon office it was overseeing. And the head of one veteransâ advocacy group called the conclusion âa whitewash.â Stress! Of course, why didn't I think of that? We're all so relieved. Let's hear it for the panel! Prud A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Hillary's Book Set to Open Old Wounds for Foster's Widow
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/21/2000 4:11:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth "Lisa" Moody, who was widowed in July 1993 when her then-husband Vince Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park, may be in for still more heartache in the months to come Isn't that terrible? The Republicans were always so thoughtful and kind as they charged, recharged, informed, disinformed, investigated, etc. the circumstances of Mr. Foster's death and his relationship to the Clintons. Bad Dems. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] European smart card use grows
-Caveat Lector- European smart card use grows December 17, 2000, 04:30 PM LONDON (AP) At Nottingham University, students buying books, newspapers or lunch, checking out books, entering buildings or even voting in campus elections use smart cards. "I don't come to campus with money anymore. The card is much more convenient," says Giles Gale, 21, a third-year student of economics at Nottingham. "I use it all the time I'm on campus." The plastic cards with embedded memory chips have made serious inroads in Europe. They are used by 70 million Germans for health insurance identification purposes. In different configurations, they are also widely deployed - particularly in Britain and France - to decipher encrypted television signals. "Smart cards are one of the fastest growing industries," said Chris Mylonas, commercial director for NDS, which has shipped 80 million cards for use in set top boxes to decode broadcast signals for subscription channels. "To upgrade the service, you can recall the cards rather than the box," Mylonas said. The killer application in Europe may well be the electronic purse, which allows users to make small cash purchases with debit cards. For larger purchases, smart cards make it easier for banks to verify identification. For the online British bank Egg, "the vision was that the smart card would give customers increased financial control," said spokesman Andy Thompson. Egg, launched by Prudential PLC last year, has issued 100,000 Visa smart cards with upgradeable onboard chips that are currently used as debit cards. Said Thompson: "The prime benefit of this card is to protect the bank from fraud," allowing it to pass savings along to the client. "For everyone, the attractions are security, ease of use and convenience," said Dominique Hautain, executive vice president of Proton International, a Belgian company in the Visa camp. Proton and its allies have issued some 60 million smart cards in 24 countries around the world. And they are planning large-scale testing next year of a follow-on technology, using a new global standard - the Common Electronic Purse Specification. Competitor Mastercard has gone another technological route, in a consortium called Mondex International Ltd., which is the version used at Nottingham University. Mondex, controlled by Mastercard, involves 26 banks around the world. A third system, Geldcart, was issued to millions of German citizens but the cards are rarely used by the privacy-conscious Germans. The main difference between the Visa and Mastercard systems is that Visa and CEPS allow banks to account centrally for every transaction. With Mondex, the money is actually held on the card as digital data - stored value. It can be transferred from one person to another but not tracked. "We do not believe that central accounting is economical," said Mike Young, director of e-market strategy for Mondex. But he acknowledged that, in the future, "a compromise, a middle ground, might be found." The more widely smart cards are embraced, the more competitors can be expected to look to the mutual benefit offered by interoperability. Onboard memory has increased to 32 kilobytes in more advanced cards, allowing for more complex operating systems and for partitioning of circuits that enables a number of tasks, such as maintaining loyalty accounts, the tack taken by the British drugstore chain Boots. More simple versions of the cards - with the e-purse function - have been a boon for merchants in Strasbourg, France, on the German border, said Jean-Pierre Pradines, head of smart card marketing at the Credit Mutuel bank, part of the Mondex camp. Shopkeepers straddling the frontier have smart card readers to handle transactions so they "do not have to handle a lot of change from different countries. They are not robbed. Cash is not stolen by employees. And it is cleaner" for food shops, where employees must wash their hands after handling change, Pradines said. It's particularly useful for residents who ride city buses across town into Germany, where they can use cards to shop in euros, the single European currency, rather than converting French francs into German marks. When the 11 countries that have adopted the euro do away with national currencies in 2002, smart cards may get an even bigger boost. Globally, the growth "impetus is really coming from Europe, because of the euro," said Colin Baptie, of Visa in San Francisco. "They want to get something up and running before the euro comes in." __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-
Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner
-Caveat Lector- Nessie writes in part: Capitalism is capitalism. Private capitalism is capitalism. State monopoly capitalism is capitalism. They both suck. What the Reds did was not communism. It was just just a variant of capitalism. REAL communism is like Acts 2:44-46 This is an example of fuzzy thinking. There is no real difference between communism and capitalism - merely a substitution of one elite (the party elite) for the old elite (the capitalist elite). Capitalism and Communism cannot exist without the active participation of the State. Capitalism is created out of whole cloth through Statism. Communism can only exist through Statism. Those who "believe" in "real communism" really do..."believe." Belief in Communism is faith based. It is as irrational to believe in Communism as it is to believe in any other faith based religious system. It is no mere coincidence that Marx came from a long line of Rabbis I have more respect for those who admit their religiousity. Most religious types at least admit their religion is not rationally based but is faith based. Communists, Socialists and Fascists are dishonest. They claim their twisted political philosophies are based on rationalisminstead of a warped perspective on human nature. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McMartin Tunnels
-Caveat Lector- Seems to me it would have been very hard to build this complex of tunnels in secret. So just WHO built them, and WHEN? And why did it need an archeological dig to find these tunnels? June http://members.cruzio.com/~ratf/McMartin.html/ "The project unearthed not one but two tunnel complexes as well as previously unrecognized structural features which defied logical explanation. Both tunnel complexes conformed to locations and functional descriptions established by children's reports. One had been described as providing undetected access to an adjacent building on the east. The other provided outside access under the west wall of the building and contained within it an enlarged, cavernous artifact corresponding to children's descriptions of a "secret room"." http://members.cruzio.com/~ratf/McMartIntro.html "But the truth is that the tunnels are there. In fact they are more than just there. The tunnels are extensive, include a large room just as the children said, and lead to further sites off the property. The tunnels were found in an archeological dig under the pre-school conducted by Dr. E. Gary Stickel, archaeologist and director of Environmental Research Archaeologists, a Scientific Consortium." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Konformist: The Shadow Over Santa Susana
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:32 PM Subject: Konformist: The Shadow Over Santa Susana Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/manson-book.htm The Shadow Over Santa Susana Adam Gorightly "Adam Gorightly seeks out and destroys the myth of Charles Manson." Tracy R. Twyman, Editor, Dagobert's Revenge It was over thirty years ago today that Charlie taught the band to play... Unfortunately the tune they were playing blared bad karma feedback from the amplifiers of their minds. In The Shadow Over Santa Susana acclaimed author Adam Gorightly takes his readers on a black magic carpet ride from the Hollywood "Beautiful People" scene of the late 60's through to the vast desert landscapes of a Death Valley gone mad - with all the love-ins and creepy-crawls that happened along the way. One of the leading luminaries of contemporary high strangeness, Adam Gorightly lets loose with his own unique riff on Charlie and his Family, in all their blazing gory. Buy this book and blow your mind! Non Fiction - softcover 375 printed pages BW photos illustrations sug. list $18.95 ** The Excluded Middle ** Greg Bishop, Editor "There are so many Manson books, good, bad, and worse, but Adam Gorightly checks in with the most comprehensive, hip and well-written history of Charlie's Lonely Souls Club Band since Ed Sanders' The Family." ** Dagobert's Revenge ** Tracy R. Twyman, Editor "With the single-mindedness of a trained bloodhound, Adam Gorightly seeks out and destroys the myth of Charles Manson as an unsophisticated hillbilly, showing us instead a mystical adept, a magician, a trickster, a hypnotist, an artist, a poet, an organized criminal, and a well-connected (though perhaps unwitting) intelligence agent. Having no axe to grind but a search for the truth, Gorightly reveals all. This is the Manson that has been purposely occulted from popular consciousness." ** Clang Bang Clang ** Robert Lawson, Editor "The Shadow Over Santa Susana is a thoroughly researched and thought-provoking work. Filled with arcane information, various conspiracy theories and a balanced historical overview, it is sure to spark many heated discussions among Manson detractors and true believers alike. Perhaps it is only after three decades that the possibility that the Sharon Tate murders were something other than "helter skelter" inspired can be suggested seriously. If so, then this book is a much-needed step in the right direction." If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit: http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Unimperialism?
-Caveat Lector- Unimperialism? by George Szamuely New York Press 12/19/00 "Praise be, the age of cynical Western interventionism may be past. Yesterday saw the final election (or selection) of a new United States President, George W. Bush. The event could mean little or it could mean much. That is always the case when an empire changes hands Let us be optimistic." Thus spoke Simon Jenkins writing in the Times of London last week. Jenkins is a sensible fellow, and while his optimism is understandable it may also be a little premature. To be sure, during the campaign Bush went out of his way to avoid vacuous Albrightian bombast: "Im not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say this is the way its got to be. I think one way for us to end up being viewed as the ugly American is for us to go around the world saying, we do it this way, so should you." Americans have not heard refreshingly unimperial talk like this in decades. Bush also called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Balkans. Yet when a spluttering Secretary-General of NATO the fat and repulsive Lord Robertson intervened outrageously in the election and confronted Bush about his intentions in the Balkans, the Republican immediately backed down. "NATO diplomats were left with the impression," The New York Times purred, "that, if he is elected, Mr. Bush is prepared to move slowly on the issue of Balkan peacekeeping to avoid any early political crises with NATO. Specifically, Lord Robertson said he had been assured that there will be no unilateral action taken in relation to peacekeeping forces." Nor was it reassuring that in his first major interview following the election, on CBS 60 Minutes II, Bush declared "The principal threat facing America is isolationism America cant go it alone." Really? Principal threat? "Isolationism" is a tired cliche, long devoid of any real meaning. Its only purpose is to silence critics of Americas imperial agenda. Whether Bush was sincere during the campaign or merely courting the Buchananite vote matters very little now. Already he is coming under enormous pressure from Washington think tanks, Weekly Standard and Wall Street Journal types, the military- industrial complex, corporate lobbyists, international aid organizations, and former government officials now working as foreign agents to make sure U.S. foreign policy remains as interventionist as ever. George W. wants bipartisanship. He will not get it on tax cuts, privatizing Social Security or education vouchers. But he could get it on foreign policy. He can satisfy the "neoconservatives" by bombing the "rogue states"; mainstream Republicans by aggressively promoting U.S. commercial interests; and liberals by championing "humanitarian intervention." Condoleezza Rice, Bushs national security adviser, is a charming and attractive woman. Colin Powell, the secretary of State, is clearly no demented Madeleine Albright. Yet it is hard to believe that either has the intellectual capability to take on the likes of Paul Wolfowitz or Richard Perle, who will most probably call the shots in a Bush administration. Rice because she is, perhaps, too nice. Powell, because his famous "doctrine" about using massive force, getting involved only where national interests are at stake and having an "exit strategy" says nothing about what Americas "national interests" really are. Powell has no idea. He is a military man who follows orders. Wolfowitz and Perle, on the other hand, do have a pretty good idea. America should be involved everywhere and at all times to ensure its global hegemony. Wolfowitz heads the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. His most famous foreign policy contribution was the 1992 memorandum, written when he was undersecretary of policy at the Pentagon, in which he argued that the United States had to maintain global military supremacy "to thwart the emergence of a rival superpower in Europe, Asia or the former Soviet Union." The United States had to "establish and protect a new order" to discourage "advanced industrial nations" from "challenging our leadership" while at the same time maintaining a military dominance capable of "deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role." He envisaged going to war with Russia if it threatened Poland or the Baltic states. Wolfowitzs belligerent, indeed nearly insane, vision caused uproar and was swiftly withdrawn. But Wolfowitz has been nothing if not faithful to his beliefs ever since. He was an early advocate of expanding NATO. He frets obsessively about the rise of China. In a 1997 speech he likened China to Imperial Germany. He regularly warns of the military threat posed by Iran. In May 1998 he and Richard Perle signed an open letter to Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott calling for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Wolfowitz also urged the bombing of Serbia long before
Re: [CTRL] Letter from the Gipper's son
-Caveat Lector- During the past eight years, the scandal-plagued Clinton-Gore administration has dimmed this bright light, besmirching our country in the eyes of the world. This corrupt duo have impugned the integrity of America's political institutions. During the past eight years, the scandal-plagued Clinton-Gore administration has dimmed this bright light, besmirching our country in the eyes of the world. This corrupt duo have impugned the integrity of America's political institutions. How conveniently he forgets Iran/contra and the October Surprise. We've also witnessed a ferocious attack of our cultural underpinnings, especially the institution of marriage, the foundation of a healthy society. (1.) This is more than just an insult to every single person, it is a lie.Even a cursory perusal of divorce rates refutes it conclusively. The real foundation of a healthy society is the healthy individual. Healthy individuals take care of each other. Sick, twisted and selfish individuals leave this most basic of human duties up to the state and then whine about being robbed when they have to kick in to pay for it. (2.) Marriage is not under attack. Some misguided homosexuals are trying to expand it's dubious benefits to people to whom it is denied. I think they are making a big mistake. Like affirmative action, gay marriage is a band-aid on a tumor. If you can't get you lover covered on your insurance policy, the problem isn't with marriage; it's with insurance. If your lover can't gain citizenship because you aren't heterosexual, the problem isn't with the institution of marriage, it's with immigration. And so on. I say, cure the disease, not the symptom. (3.) Love needs no approval from the state. If you are in love, live together. Whoever you are, gay or straight, you don't need the consent of the state to justify your love. If you feel like you need the permission of your deity, then by all means go to your church, mosque, shul, or whatever, and get approval. There's no harm in that, and it'll make you feel better about each other and about your relationship. But that is not legal marriage and don't kid yourselves that it is. Marriage is a legal institution. It is the arrogant and avaricious government intruding into the most intimate of interpersonal relationships and demanding a fee to let it happen. How dare they!?! What's more, it is the government giving its seal of approval to the concept of marriage held by certain religions, but not to the concept of marriage held by other religions. Righteous people of all faiths should find this offensive. An attack on one is an attack on all. Dont let our rulers divide us by our faiths. Unite to protect each other. We dont all need to believe the same dogma in order to have common interests. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'pres'-elect bush: Takeover would BE EASIER IFIWEREDICTATOR! EXACT Q =?Windows-1
-Caveat Lector- And the funny (sad0 thing is that the whole liberal/conservative "debate" has been co-opted by a conspiracy that uses natural differences to divide the populace for control. Many, both right and left have bought into phony causes and issues that are nothing but hat-hangers for the conspiracy boys dirty tricks. Beyond the BS towards our utmost of futures. MHO Om K In a message dated 12/20/00 11:19:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So we have two mediocre candidates playing dirty tricks on each other and succeeding at dividing the country and subsequently our lists. I know both sides want to be heard and on this particular list, conservatives are outnumbered. I, too, hope they will not leave as they are doing on other lists. Sadly, I do not see things improving and there is little interest in anything else right now. It is a war of sorts and as always, the first victim is truth. Neither side is going to change their minds nor be influenced by what the other side says as we do not believe what the other side says so we have a stalemate. Amelia A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'pres'-elect bush: Takeover would BE EASIER IFIWEREDICTATOR! EXACT QUOTE!
-Caveat Lector- I have not heard the same level of malice returned to Liberals/Democrats either. That's incredible. Are you reading the same list!?! Has anyone else here missed out on the constant stream of (oft deserved) venom that pours from the right? This list fairly drips with it. The big difference is that when it comes from the left, the right whines more. Personally, I don't like either of them. They're both liars, they're both thieves and they're both bullies. Nothing would make me happier than if the left got out of my wallet and the right got out of my bedroom. But don't hold your breath. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] News on Albany co. that refuses to close Narco News
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ Big News - eGroups is becoming Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details: http://click.egroups.com/1/10801/0/_/_/_/977395826/ -_- Narco News salutes our Internet Service Provider, Voxel.net, for standing tall in the face of threats against it, and for recognizing Narco News as "a public service." Here is the local angle by reporter Larry Goodwin of Metroland... And what After Tuesday's VOICE article, Akin Gump's McLish is suddenly "not authorized" to speak to the press? A self-inflicted gag order? More to come... --- From Metroland, Albany, New York Story by Larry Goodwin http://www.metroland.net/sct_news.html#fyi Lawyers, Drugs and Money The managers of Voxel Dot Net Inc., a small Internet-service provider in Troy, hardly imagined that they would ever become embroiled in an international dispute over drug trafficking. But this month, thats exactly what happened. Last Thursday (Dec. 14), Voxel was contacted by representatives of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer Feld, a Washington, D.C. law firm representing the Mexican bank Banamex. Through a lawsuit filed in federal District Court in New York City, Banamex is waging a legal battle to discredit media reports indicating that its president, Roberto Hernández Ramírez, is a drug trafficker whose activities are allegedly protected by powerful politicians in both Mexico and the United States. Since last April, Voxel has provided Internet access to the Narco News Bulletin, a news service that seeks to expose the alleged hypocrisies of the U.S.-led war against drugswhich enters its next phase in January with the start of a military operation in southern Colombia targeting coca growers. Akin Gump reportedly asked Voxel to dismantle the Narco News Web site (www.narconews.com), but the company refused, citing free speech concerns. This has the makings of a huge, huge case, said Raj Dutt, the corporate spokesman for Voxel in Troy. Dutt said he could not comment specifically on any legal action that might be taken against his company. Were not being held responsible. We are the host of Narco News, he said. Dutt added that the news bulletin was providing a public service and that Voxel would continue providing Internet access until we get a court order basically telling us to take the site down. Im not authorized to speak to the press on behalf of our client, said Akin Gump spokesman Tom McLish, who has been attempting to serve the legal papers related to a lawsuit brought against the Narco News publisher, former Boston Phoenix political writer Al Giordano. In July, Narco News translated a series of articles published in Por Esto!, Mexicos third-largest daily newspaper, which documented how the Hernández property in the state of Quintana Roo has become a prime shipping point for Colombian cocaine. The paper went so far as to call the Hernández ranch, located on Mexicos Caribbean coast, the cocaine peninsula. Hernández filed lawsuits against the editor and publisher of Por Esto!, along with several of the papers reporters, to force a retraction of its investigative stories. But top Mexican judges ruled against him, saying the stories were based on the facts, according to Narco News. Other Mexican papers have reported how Hernández hosted a private reception at his ranch this year that was attended by newly elected Mexican President Vincente Fox, U.S. ambassador to Mexico Jeffrey Davidow and President Bill Clinton. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: JUST SO LONG AS I'M THE DICTATOR
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/0/_/1406/_/977412320/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] JUST SO LONG AS I'M THE DICTATOR "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," he chuckled." "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President-elect George W. Bush" http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001218/pl/bush_leadall_dc_24.html If you guessed that the quote above came from the usurper, the Pretender, George W. Bush, on December 18th, of this year, you were right. Actually the Reuters title for Bush is wrong. He is not President-elect, In elections first people vote, then the votes get counted. Without counting the votes you do not get to be elected to anything. Deja Coup All Over Again A Little Coup Among Friends What's a little coup among friends? George Weasel Bush was all for the coup in Pakistan. We should have known he would try one in America. For those who said "It Can't Happen Here", look again! It did! A count of legally Cast votes was stopped a tyrant was installed. All that is necessary for evil to Triumph is for enough good people to do nothing. Be part of the movement to Impeach , convict Bush Cheney! Tell your Senators Congress members! If they decline to vote for the Impeachment conviction of Bush Cheney petition for special recall elections to remove them replace them with Senators Congress members who will do their duty Impeach convict Bush Cheney! This Is America! We Count the Votes! Those who seize power without counting the votes are not legitimate. Government exists to serve the people, not to be Masters of the people, but servants of the people! Take our government back! Free our country! Impeach Convict Bush Cheney! IF a House-Senate challenge of Florida's electors fails, or worse, does not even occur. IF Bush Cheney take office in January, we must be ready to continue the fight. This will mean building a Democratic-Republican-Green, etc. Coalition to , where possible, identify vulnerable House Senate seats which can be targets of winnable recall elections next year. We would need to target about 20 or so seats in the House an equal number in the Senate to accomplish what needs to be done. Our task should be nothing less than gaining control of BOTH the House Senate so that Bush Cheney, as persons illegally immorally installed by a 5-4 Supreme Court coup, that stopped a valid count of uncounted votes in Florida, can be impeached in the House tried convicted removed from office in the Senate. To make this work we also need to have as House Speaker someone who would be willing to name Al Gore as his or her Vice President once he or she succeeded to the Presidency upon the conviction removal from office of the Pretenders, the Usurpers, wrongfully installed , then wrongfully holding offices that were not conferred upon them by the people, Bush Cheney. At that point, once Al Gore is confirmed as Vice President the President would resign Al Gore, the person who was truly elected by over 540,000 popular votes the votes of Florida, had they been counted, thus is also the rightful Constitutional President of the United States, would in fact become the President of the United States. We must regain our Democracy if we are to have any self-respect as a people, as a nation. We cannot permit this coup to stand. Government exists to serve the people. Government derives its just power from the consent of the governed. Absent a counting of the votes of Florida there has not been any consent of the governed granted to Bush Cheney. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/elect2000/pres/bush/19991106/t000 101027.html Gore Criticizes Bush's Coup Comments From Times Wire Services WASHINGTON-Vice President Al Gore denounced Texas Gov. George W. Bush on Friday for appearing to praise last month's military coup in Pakistan, saying it raised serious questions about his ability to lead the nation. In an interview with a Boston television station Wednesday, Bush, the Republican presidential front-runner, was asked to name the leaders of four world hot spots, including Pakistan. He managed to name just one, the president of Taiwan. But in the exchange with the reporter over Pakistan, Bush appeared to condone the recent coup that brought Gen. Pervez Musharraf to power, dislodging the elected government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. "The new Pakistani general, he's just been elected-not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think that's good news for the subcontinent,"Bush said. Gore, the leading Democratic
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Top 200: The Rise of Corporate Global Power
-- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/0/_/1406/_/977412339/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.ips-dc.org/top200text.htm Top 200: The Rise of Corporate Global Power by Sarah Anderson and John Cavanagh of the Institute for Policy Studies Press Release on report / .pdf version with charts CONTENTS KEY FINDINGS I. INTRODUCTION II. OVERVIEW OF THE TOP 200 III. POWER OF THE TOP 200 A. ECONOMIC CLOUT B. POLITICAL CLOUT IV. CONTRIBUTIONS OF TOP 200 A. JOBS B. TAXES V. CONCLUSION NOTES Table 1. Changing Profile of the Top 200 (1983-1999) Table 2. Top 100 Economies (1999) Table 3. Top 200 (1999) About the authors Sarah Anderson is the Director of the Global Economy Project of the Institute for Policy Studies and the co-author (with John Cavanagh and Thea Lee) of Field Guide to the Global Economy (New Press, 2000) John Cavanagh is the Director of IPS and a former international economist at the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. KEY FINDINGS 1. Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations; only 49 are countries (based on a comparison of corporate sales and country GDPs). 2. The Top 200 corporations' sales are growing at a faster rate thanoverall global economic activity. Between 1983 and 1999, theircombined sales grew from the equivalent of 25.0 percent to 27.5percent of World GDP. 3. The Top 200 corporations' combined sales are bigger than the combined economies of all countries minus the biggest 10. 4. The Top 200s' combined sales are 18 times the size of the combinedannual income of the 1.2 billion people (24 percent of the totalworld population) living in "severe" poverty. 5. While the sales of the Top 200 are the equivalent of 27.5 percentof world economic activity, they employ only 0.78 percent of theworld's workforce. 6. Between 1983 and 1999, the profits of the Top 200 firms grew 362.4 percent, while the number of people they employ grew byonly 14.4 percent. 7. A full 5 percent of the Top 200s' combined workforce is employedby Wal-Mart, a company notorious for union-busting and widespreaduse of part-time workers to avoid paying benefits. The discountretail giant is the top private employer in the world, with1,140,000 workers, more than twice as many as No. 2, DaimlerChrysler, which employs 466,938. 8. U.S. corporations dominate the Top 200, with 82 slots (41 percentof the total). Japanese firms are second, with only 41 slots. 9. Of the U.S. corporations on the list, 44 did not pay the full standard 35 percent federal corpo-rate tax rate during the period 1996-1998. Seven of the firms actually paid less than zero in federal income taxes in 1998 (because of rebates). These include: Texaco, Chevron, PepsiCo, Enron, Worldcom, McKesson and the world's biggest corporationGeneral Motors. 10. Between 1983 and 1999, the share of total sales of the Top 200 made up by service sector corporations increased from 33.8 percent to 46.7 percent. Gains were particularly evident in financial services and telecommunications sectors, in which most countries have pursued deregulation. I. INTRODUCTION In 1952, General Motors CEO Charles Wilson made the famous statement that "What is good for General Motors is good for the country."1 During the past decade and a half, General Motors and other global corporations have obtained much of what they claimed was good for them. They have succeeded in obtaining trade and investment liberalization policies that provide global firms considerable new freedoms to pursue profits internationally. They have also persuaded governments to take a generally hands-off approach to corporate monopolies, claiming that mega-mergers are needed for firms to compete in global markets. This study examines the economic and political power of the world's top 200 corporations.2 Led by General Motors, these are the firms that are driving the process of corporate globalization and arguably benefiting the most from it. The report then examines the extent to which these firms are fulfilling the second half of Charles Wilson's promise by providing "what's good for the country" and global society in general. The conclusion of our analysis is that widespread trade and investment liberalization have contributed to a climate in which dominant corporations are enjoying increasing levels of economic and political clout that are out of balance with the tangible benefits they provide to society. The study reinforces a strong public distrust
[CTRL] IHT: DNA Harvest in China: A One-Sided Bargain?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.iht.com/articles/5021.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.iht.com/articles/5021.htm"IHT: DNA Harvest in China: A One-Sided Bargain?/A - DNA Harvest in China: A One-Sided Bargain? John Pomfret Washington Post Service Thursday, December 21, 2000 A Blood Drive Serves U.S. Genetic Research TOUTUO, China They came from distant villages and scattered rural shacks, trudging miles by foot across precipitous terrain and muddy green tea fields. Women left the open ditches where they washed the family clothes, dragging children along with them. The men joined in. Fifteen hundred people answered the call. Among them was Wang Guangpu, 26, who makes $36 a month cutting hair in a hut made out of reeds in the Toutuo town center, a 100-meter (330-foot) strip of crumbling structures on a rutted dirt road. "We were told there would be free medical care," he said. "So of course everybody came out." There was a catch, however: Residents had to give blood. Few in this impoverished community could afford a doctor otherwise, because economic restructuring has gutted China's free health care system. So, one by one, they extended their arms. This was no ordinary blood drive. It was genetic research, a pamphlet explained to participants. But many could not read, and few could have guessed at the tangle of scientific and business dreams that lay behind the project. DNA from this region was coveted in the West. Researchers at Harvard University and its corporate sponsor, Millennium Pharmaceuticals Inc., of Cambridge, Massachusetts, believed that the population, isolated by geography here and elsewhere in mountainous Anhui Province, held a treasure of unpolluted genetic material. They felt it could yield medical breakthroughs and perhaps millions in biotech profits. Genetic deviations that may cause medical disorders are much easier to identify in a large DNA sample from a relatively uniform gene pool. Because it was unusually homogenous, the DNA in the local population's blood "was more valuable than gold," the lead Harvard researcher reportedly told colleagues. Ounce for ounce, that would prove a sound estimate. Harvard ultimately reaped millions of dollars in federal grants and private investment for the university and the project's lead researcher because of its access to Anhui's DNA. And Millennium was able to raise tens of millions of dollars from corporate investors. Along the way, Harvard allied with researchers in China who sometimes used the coercive levers of the country's government to help round up volunteers. Some Chinese who took part complain that the bargain proved one-sided. In Toutuo and elsewhere in Anhui, people such as Wang Guangpu say that the promised medical treatment never materialized. The story of Harvard's blood harvest in China highlights a question increasingly asked by medical ethicists as U.S. academic and corporate researchers turn to poor countries to find large pools of willing human subjects: Are some populations too vulnerable for all but the most essential medical research? Harvard and Millennium officials say their research adhered to strict ethical guidelines. They say Chinese participants volunteered freely and Harvard kept its commitments. "We were very mindful of having the same standards applied to them as in the U.S.," said Harvard's provost, Harvey Fineberg. "Every effort was made to assure that was the case." But the same standards may not provide the same protections. In November, spurred in part by complaints about the Harvard-sponsored work in Anhui, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing issued an unusual advisory warning U.S. medical researchers against working in impoverished, rural areas of China where "health care is poor and people are unable to protect their rights." On the Chinese side, the director of sequencing work for the Chinese Human Genome Project, who has worked with the United Nations on genetic research ethics, offered scathing criticism. "I hope that Harvard and the School of Public Health will understand that the recruiting methods they used in China are unacceptable to the Chinese," he said in an interview. The research required thousands of volunteers, nearly impossible to obtain in such a remote place without an experienced guide. Scott Weiss, a prominent Harvard respiratory epidemiologist, had just the person: He had mentored a postdoctoral fellow, Xu Xiping, who came from Anhui and had conducted several public health studies there. Local health officials and doctors were recruited to help find study volunteers. Millennium Pharmaceuticals and Harvard picked asthma as the disease to study. It was common enough in the West to make it an attractive target for Millennium. The Millennium-Harvard asthma deal provided Harvard with seed money to begin an ambitious genetics research program. In 1997, financial details about the Millennium-Harvard deal leaked to the Chinese press and caused a storm of criticism. The idea
[CTRL] OEN 12/21/00
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Hacking for Money Mean Hackers Attack Poor Little Banks Memo to Idiots: Notice how the banks cover this stuff up. A new breed of criminal computer hacker is holding dozens of leading British companies to ransom by stealing confidential customer information and demanding cash in return. Many of the hackers are escaping justice because firms, including major banks, credit card firms and internet traders, want to keep the attacks secret, fearing that any publicity which highlights their vulnerability will undermine customer confidence. One British team of professional hackers, all believed to be aged under 25, has already penetrated some of the country's best-protected computer systems to attempt blackmail. Criminal hackers differ from their amateur colleagues in that the latter will attack big organisations - often hate figures like Microsoft - for the fun of it. But criminal hackers are after money rather than glory. They steal vital information like source codes or customers' details then demand cash - threatening further attacks which could crash computer systems. It is believed that in the past 18 months, more than a dozen corporate computer systems have been hit by one gang alone. Security insiders say that nobody knows just how many big companies have been hit - or how many have secretly paid-off cyber-blackmailers. One senior Scotland Yard detective said: "All too often when big firms are hit, they call in the security experts, patch up the system - and say nothing." The obsessive secrecy also means crucial knowledge about intrusion techniques is often not passed on to other firms who could be next in line as targets. Experts say this vulnerability is providing a major headache for MI5 and its warning systems to protect Britain's critical national infrastructure of utilities like telecommunications, transport, and electricity. Even when police are brought in, criminals can slip the net. A year ago, Scotland Yard began investigating a 10 million cyber-ransom demand on Visa. It is thought that the gang stole source codes and demonstrated the ability to crash Visa's system - which could have cost Visa many millions of pounds. After it called in police at the end of last year, Visa said: "We hardened the system, we sealed it and they did not return. We have firewalls upon firewalls, but are concerned that anyone got in." Today a Visa spokeswoman said: "It's our policy to bring in the police over intrusions like this. We have a very good relationship with the police." Because the firm took civil action against one of the suspects - James Grant, who lives near Elgin in Scotland - detectives were legally unable to use the information gained to bring a criminal case. The civil court order forced Mr Grant to reveal information to Visa investigators. The hackers thought to be behind the Visa attack are still free. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=345095, December 18, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner
-Caveat Lector- Communism can only exist through Statism. This is simply untrue. Even today, after thousands of years of militant statism, there are many autonomous, egalitarian societies. You really should read more anthropology. Your ignorance is showing. Try starting with People Without Government by Harold Barclay ISBN 0-900707-5. It's a pretty good primer. You'd look a whole lot smarter if you would just remember the basic formula: Read first. Talk later. Really, and I don't mean that as an insult. You have a perfectly fine cortex, but your ideology is preventing you from making the most of it. Your reasoning is far too a priori. Learn a little science. Think empirically. You'll get a lot closer to the truth that way. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McMartin Tunnels
-Caveat Lector- Seems to me it would have been very hard to build this complex of tunnels in secret. I take it you have never read an account of life at Luftstalag III, or seen Hollywood's fictionalized version, The Great Escape. And you're probably too young to remember Viet Nam. (sigh) Oh well. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OTTAWA ARCHBISHOP SAYS NON-CLERGY TO BAPTIZE, MARRY CATHOLICS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=10716 20-Dec-2000 -- EWTN News Brief OTTAWA ARCHBISHOP SAYS NON-CLERGY TO BAPTIZE, MARRY CATHOLICS OTTAWA, Dec. 19, 00 (CWNews.com) - Archbishop Marcel Gervais of Ottawa has said he will appoint laypeople, including nuns, and deacons to begin providing the sacraments of baptism and marriage and oversee burials in the absence French-speaking priests. Archbishop Gervais told the Ottawa Citizen that the idea is "not just solving problem, but a new model of church." He said, "We want to move away from the consumer model, where the priest supplies all the needs of the consumers, to a model of participation." While part of the plan is to appoint pastoral administrators to parishes that do not have a priest in residence, a common occurrence in many dioceses around the world that have a shortage of priests, the granting of permission to baptize, marry, and bury parishioners to laypeople is new. Sister Jeannine Gauthier, who has been working at the parish of Notre Dame de Lourdes in Vanier for four years is responsible for the maintenance and administration of the parish, and has now been given permission to baptize, marry and bury parishioners, when no priest or deacon is available. "This is a totally new mode of functioning. The bishop is excited and I'm excited," she told the newspaper. Many of the openings will be filled by permanent deacons who are granted permission to marry, baptize, and officiate at funerals by virtue of receiving the sacrament of holy orders. There are now 50 deacons working in parishes in the Archdiocese of Ottawa and another 17 in formation. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Explosive New Book -Now taking pre-orders - Barry and 'the boys'
-Caveat Lector- The explosive new book by Daniel Hopsicker, Barry and 'the boys' publication date is February 19, 2001. This long-awaited expose brings it all together. Daniel Hopsicker tells the tale that the mainstream leaves behind. With hundreds of interviews and a treasure-trove of documents from Barry Seal's archives, Hopsicker puts together the hot story of the new millennium. He unravels the mists of time and let us explore the secret history, to see how the world really works. A netherworld where intelligence agents and mobster work side by side. Hopsicker follows the money, names the players and adds many pieces to the puzzle for those who care to understand. Barry and 'the boys' -The CIA, the Mob and America's Secret History gives you an inside look into the major scandals of our times from the Bay of Pigs to the JFK assassination to Iran-Contra and more through the story of Barry Seal's career. The story of Barry Seal, the biggest drug smuggle in American history, who died in a hail of bullets with George Bush's private phone number in his wallet . . . + To Pre-order: www.madcow.press.com www.barryandtheboys.com + Retail pre-orders will be shipped as soon as books are received from the printer, scheduled the second week in January MadCow Press A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Best of the Season
-Caveat Lector- Howdy one and all, For those who have wondered . . . A HREF="http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/189/kris_millegan.html?lang=eng" MP3.com - Kris Millegan/A Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rx For Gun Control
-Caveat Lector- From NEWSMAX.COM http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/print.shtml?a=2000/12/21/080830 }}Begin NewsMax.com The Strange Role of Doctors in the Gun Debate Dr. Michael S. Brown Dec. 21, 2000 If you were going to choose a team of experts to help resolve the question of gun rights versus gun control, who would you pick? Your first choice should be a good criminologist; then perhaps a police officer with extensive street experience. To analyze the cost of gun violence and the cost of gun control, you would choose an economist. An expert on the causes of suicide would be very helpful as would a skilled statistician to sort through the various studies. You would probably not choose a doctor, yet a small number of doctors have assumed a large role in the anti-gun lobby. Various trauma surgeons, in particular, have asserted that their experience in treating gunshot wounds makes them experts on gun control legislation. This is patently absurd. You wouldn't ask advice on traffic laws from someone who repairs damaged cars. There are experts who are trained to conduct scientific studies and recommend new traffic laws when needed. Most doctors are predisposed to anti-gun thinking by their urban liberal upbringing. Treating numerous gunshot victims may exaggerate this existing mindset. Most Americans will never see a gunshot wound, but some trauma surgeons see so many that they begin to view the world as overwhelmed with gun violence. This skewed world view can result in a very human emotional urge to "do something" about the problem of gun violence. This same motive is commonly found in family members of gun violence victims; since the real causes of human violence are so complex, they must lash out at something simple like the type of weapon used. Doctors who treat these victims may be responding in much the same way. Medical doctors who support political movements use their credibility as medical professionals to lend weight to a particular cause. This credibility comes from their training which teaches doctors to use the scientific method to diagnose and treat medical conditions. When physicians support a political cause, most people would assume that they are applying the same standards. Unfortunately for these social activist doctors, all reputable research shows that gun control laws simply don't work. To support the anti-gun lobby, they must turn their backs on their scientific training and give in to their personal bias. This awkward situation led some doctors to carry out public health studies designed to produce anti-gun statistics. This is known as "results-oriented research" or "junk science". These studies are distinguished by certain characteristics. The anti-gun researchers frequently choose small populations or geographic areas that they believe will produce the desired outcome. They ignore the fact that guns are often used to deter crime without shots being fired and they typically misrepresent the conclusions of earlier studies on which they are basing their own research. Their statistical analysis is always questionable and they sometimes refuse to make their raw data public to avoid close scrutiny. Perhaps the most striking characteristic is the way that the results are always turned into an anti-gun sound bite with an outlandish number representing the harm done by firearms. The most famous of these studies is the one that declared firearms to be 43 times more likely to kill someone in the home than to kill an intruder. Like all of the anti-gun studies, this one has been dissected by numerous people who delight in pointing out the way in which the data were tortured to produce the desired results. A classic discussion of these flawed studies is "Guns in the Medical Literature a Failure of Peer Review" by Edgar A. Suter, MD. This wave of criticism may be partly responsible for some improvement in the quality of published articles. The Journal of the American Medical Association, for example, recently published a study by Ludwig and Cook which found that the much touted Brady Act had no effect on the national homicide rate. Perhaps this marks a return to intellectual honesty that will convince anti-gun doctors to take a more logical look at the problem of gun violence. They should at least admit to the public and to their fellow doctors that their opinions on gun legislation have nothing to do with their medical credentials. Dr. Michael S. Brown is a board member of Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws, on the web at: http://keepandbeararms.com/dsgl References: Evaluating the "43 Times" Fallacy David K. Felbeck http://keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=viewarticleid=423 Guns in the Medical Literature A Failure of Peer Review - Edgar A. Suter, MD http://rkba.org/research/suter/med-lit.html?suter#first_hit How the CDC succumbed to the "Gun Epidemic" Kates, Shaffer, Waters Reason Magazine http://www.reason.com/9704/fe.cdc.html For Your Own Good
[CTRL] Fwd: Bush Watch...
-Caveat Lector- Inside Bush Watch - http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3750/bush.htm In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of the greatest power, The village idiot will come forth To be acclaimed the leader. EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Hard Day's Night: John Ellis' Firsthand Account of Election Night
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=17576pod_id=7 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=17576pod_id=7"[ I N S I D E ] A Hard Day's Night: John Ellis' /A - A Hard Day's Night: John Ellis' Firsthand Account of Election Night It was as hairy as it gets in the news business. But it was especially so for George W. Bush's cousin, who manned the Fox News election desk. EXCLUSIVE by John Ellis Monday , December 11, 2000 10:52 a.m. INSIDE MAGAZINE GET YOUR SUBSCRIPTION 1 PM: THE MARATHON BEGINS I was standing near the doorway, talking to my wife, Susan, who had dropped by for lunch, when I heard someone say: ''Here we go.'' And in a rush, Green Room One came alive with adrenaline and the clacking of keyboard commands. I walked over to my workstation and sat down. After reciting the decision-desk prayer (Please, God, do not let me screw up), I typed in ''GS25 FL P'' (for ''get state screen #25, Florida, Presidential'') and hit return. Gore was ahead in Florida. I typed in ''GS25 MI P.'' Too close to call in Michigan. I typed in ''GS25 PA P.'' Too close to call in Pennsylvania. ''Jesus,'' I said to no one in particular, ''this is tight.'' The clock said 1:14 p.m. We spent the next 90 minutes looking at every screen in every state where the Voter News Service had posted early Election Day voter poll data (the infamous ''exit polls''). We also scanned the key contested races that would determine which political party would control the U.S. Senate. First Lady Hillary Clinton was comfortably ahead. Thankfully, that was one we wouldn't have to sweat. Just then, the phone rang. It was my first cousin, Texas Governor George W. Bush. 'Ellis, Bush here,' he said in his best Texas drawl. 'Here we go again.' Bearing down on us was a ''first-wave'' briefing at 3 p.m. for on-air talent, producers and executives, a logistical briefing for Fox affiliates at 3:30, ''second-wave'' numbers that would be posted in the system at 4 p.m. and a rebrief for talent, producers and executives at 5 p.m. In between were phone briefings for Fox News Channel and employees in New York, Washington, and in the field. The election night broadcast itself would begin at 6 p.m., as polls closed in Indiana and Kentucky. Six people crunched the numbers. Dana Blanton, director of polling for Fox News Channel, and Margaret Ann Campbell, an independent consultant, constituted the poll-analysis team. Their job was to prepare ''packages'' of poll stories, two-minute segments that drew from both the national and state exit polls, which aired every 30 minutes throughout the night. Tony Snow, the Fox News anchor who served as the on-air poll analyst for election-night broadcasts, narrated these packages. The poll-analysis team was so efficient and so professional that I literally did not talk to either Blanton or Campbell throughout the entire 10-hour broadcast. The Fox News Channel's decision-desk team -- the group that ''projected'' winners and losers throughout the night -- consisted of four people. The most senior member was John Gorman, president of Opinion Dynamics Corporation and arguably one of the best pollsters in the country. A Democrat, Gorman had worked with me on a variety of consulting projects in the past, and I trusted him completely. More importantly, Gorman brought an astonishing wealth of political knowledge and experience to the table. The second key player was Arnon Mishkin, a partner at the Boston Consulting Group and former colleague of mine (during the mid-1980s) at the NBC News Election Unit. Mishkin had started in politics as a protege of David Garth, the legendary New York political consultant. He was exceptionally smart and unafraid of cutting against consensus. Like Gorman, he had great connections to key Democratic players. While I did not share their Gore leanings, what we did have in common was our love for the work. The third member of the team was Cynthia Talkov, a statistical wizard who had worked at both Opinion Dynamics and at the Voter News Service, the consortium set up in 1990 by the Associated Press and major national TV news organizations to perform exit polling and other data-collection services. Her VNS experience was invaluable to us. We needed someone who knew the system inside out, knew the details and pitfalls of each and every estimator on our screens, and knew exactly who to call when we had questions that could only be answered by VNS employees. Smart, tough and decisive, Talkov was a passionate Democrat. The fourth player was me. I had served as head of the Fox News Channel decision-desk team since 1998 and was responsible for managing the projection process. Having worked at the NBC News Election Unit for 11 years (1978-1989) and having covered politics for most of my adult life (from 1994 to 1999 as a columnist at the Boston Globe), I knew my way around election results and felt confident that we could, if we kept
Re: [CTRL] Panel blames stress for Gulf War ills
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:06:34 EST "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 â In its long-awaited report, a presidential panel said the Pentagon did not cover anything up in investigating Gulf War illness and concluded that stress is a likely cause of the vets ailments. One of the seven panelists dissented, charging that the board lacked independence from the Pentagon office it was overseeing. And the head of one veterans advocacy group called the conclusion whitewash Stress! Of course, why didn't I think of that? We're all so relieved. Let's hear it for the panel! Prud If you remember the "Agent Orange" studies and conclusions you would not be surprised at this. Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media recount
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:28:19 EST "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Governor Jeb Bush said he wasn't sure what the media review would accomplish. "Everyone will have their own conclusion, and I'm not sure all this is going to solve anything," he said. I'm really surprised at his statement. I was positive he was pretty sure about the results. Isn't that why he pulled all those maneuvers? Prudy Yup, old Jeb is sure that it won't matter when the results are made public. At this point the line up will be the same no matter who counts the votes. Nobody is going to believe anybody else. The only open question is: How long are we the people going to put up with the BS? If the economy goes south rapidly, the people may just pull a Boston Tea Party and oust George II. Not the Bore would be any better. If a revolt does happen, I would hope that a THOROUGH house cleaning takes place. Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JW: BUSH EMBRACES HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:52:45 EST "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- And that's just it--legal harassment. The Republican Party and their good buddies have turned our legal system into trained attack dogs. This goes all the way from Judicial Watch to the US Supreme Court. The dignity and honor that were once a part of the business of law and our courts are as dead as the justice they once served. Prudy Prudy, it isn't just the republicans who have done this to us. This started a long time ago. It is getting more flagerant lately, and particularly the last decision on the Florida Election. Justice Stevens had it right. The more people see what is happening the more disgusted they get. No wonder some flee the country, some arm themselves, some try to raise the awareness of others, and some just shrug and hope it doesn't hurt them personally. The sad commentary is that as long as the economy is chugging along nothing will happen to rock the boat. Rest assured, at some point the people will revolt. I just wonder what the precipitating event will be. Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Need Safety Net for Poor
-Caveat Lector- Bob, Mike, Mulva, Nessie, and others interested in this discussion. First, let me wish all a Happy and Healthy Solstice. I consider myself to be a conservative. That does not mean a Republican. Rather, my conservatism runs to the Libertarian/Anarchist side. Only the minimum of government necessary for trade between and among localities, regions, and countries, and that government kept in close check by the people. Trade does not mean capitalism or even a set monetary system. Think more of the systems set up by indiginous societies such as the Iroquois League, Cherokee, and Northwest Coast Tribes which provided for exchanges of foods in good times and sharing of foods in tough times, mutual protection, and leaving each group to run itself otherwise. While this is not attainable in the forseeable future (barring a massive natural or manmade disaster), the Libertarian concept is probably the best known example that comes close my ideal. In the real world my conservatism means that any extra money should pay off debts first, repair/improve infrastructure second, with the remainder being set aside for future use. Striving for sustainability should be the "Prime Directive". It also means that no one should be homeless, without medical care, starving or without a job of some sort. As you have heard me say before, from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. This sentiment has been given a bad rap, but think about it; doesn't it make fundamental sense? Not everyone is born with equal skills, intelligence, talents, etc. This is not only true, but we are lucky this is so. Otherwise we would not have the depth and breadth of talent needed. Some are good at growing things. Some are good at inventing. Some are good at repairing things. Some are artists, musicians, writers, speakers, etc. You get the idea. How many people are working at jobs they hate, while their real talents are wasted because there is no "Market" for them? So, from each according to their ability is not just a monetary concept. It is a human concept where we are allowed to use our natural or acquired talents for the betterment of all. Do you think that every indigineous person made their own pots, knapped their own projectile points, hunted, harvested, etc? I can assure you that they did not. The archaeological record shows that there were specialists in each of these. Yes, most knew how to do each of these things, but the community of people were best served by each doing what they did best. This was not static either. A hunter who grew too old, or was injured, would shift to doing other things that they were good at and could do well. Those who were good at something taught others who wanted to learn that skill. Older skilled people taught younger people their skills. This worked well for 100,000 years. Now we come to the less intelligent, the physically or mentally problematic, the injured, etc. Were they left to their own devices? Again the archaeological record shows that they were incorporated into the society by doing what they could. Were the old left to die when they were too old to be usefull? Again the record shows that they were not, they were valued. So we have giving to each according to their needs. Then there is the trait of altruism that runs through humanity, but is repressed in our current culture. Today, altruism is so rare that it is notable when it occurs. I remember what little press the owner of that high quality shirt manufacturer got when he continued to pay his employees after the building burned down. It took about 4 months to rebuild, but the employees continued to get paid. There are other rare instances of altruism on this large a scale, and more on a personal scale, but they are the exception today. Bob, I understand your frustration. I used to think the same thing. However, over the past ten years I have come to think differently. There is no excuse for denigrating the poor in this country. They are not poor by choice. In one way or another they are the victims of our success. Even taking the extreme view and saying that this person is too lazy to work, should not mean that they should starve, live on the streets, have no medical care. What about the old who are poor? They have little ability to work in todays marketplace. Should they be left to their own devices? I wonder how anyone can, in good conscience, justify the earnings of the top 1%, while at the same time denigrate those who earn less. Our culture has taken capitalism and competition to a very dark and dangerous place. Look at the qualities that are most financially rewarded, and those that are least financially rewarded. Who would you rather do business with? Have as a neighbor? Why? I would propose that almost all of the poor share with each other the little they do get, and at the least offer a
[CTRL] Pretty good collection of articles.
-Caveat Lector- Don't read all at once, you might become nauseous. http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/alt_election.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] the misunderstood n word (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:07:29 -0800 From: Megan Farkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the misunderstood "n" word Actually, a white mayoral aide in Washington, DC resigned after his use of the word "niggardly" was misunderstood. After the mayor was criticized for accepting the resignation (including by the NAACP), he agreed to rehire the man. See the link for a great collection of news coverage, both of this event, and other occasions when the word was misunderstood: http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm Megan Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wasn't someone dismissed from high office recently because he called someone niggardly? Jim Weiler The Naked Word - This message was sent via the Book People mailing list. Posting address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin. unsubscribe address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charter: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/bplist/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: THE HOAX-TRADAMUS QUATRAIN]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: THE HOAX-TRADAMUS QUATRAIN Date: 21 Dec 2000 01:40:52 - From: "Hogue Prophecy Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member Hogue Prophecy Mailing List - www.hogueprophecy A QUATRAIN BY 'HOAX-TRADAMUS'(19 December 2000) Dear friends, Over the last few days I have received hundreds of emails from around the world asking me about the authenticity of this amazing quatrain purportedly attributed to Nostradamus: *** In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: "Come the millennium, month 12, In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth To be acclaimed the leader." *** What a wonderful prophecy! Too bad it is a bald-faced hoax. Can any of you see why? Or better, can any of you see which important element is missing in this quotation? Notice that this four-line prophecy attributed to Nostradamus does not contain his Century and Quatrain indexing numbers? I believe Nostradamus knew people would try to write prophecies under his name. That is why he indexed all of his quatrains in his original editions of "Les Propheties" --his ambitious 941 quatrain history of the future. If you have an authentically quoted prophecy's indexing number you can find it in its original 16th century French. . You can then compare the translation in question against the original French text for its accuracy and authenticity. Rest assured. This is not a prophecy from Nostradamus. Only a hoaxer writing for some yellow rag like the National Perspirer, would avoid such scrutiny by leaving out the index number. By the way, I have cross referenced every application of the over 36,000 words Nostradamus used in his prophetic works and none of them combine to make this prophecy. This quatrain should be thrown in the same garbage heap of non-indexed hoaxes like the famous "bloody glove of O. J." quatrain. (Chuckle...) John Hogue Rogue Scholar, Author: "Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies" PS--My assessment on the presidency is coming soon. Since it appears to me that the U.S. Supreme Court's president-elect is not really going to run the country, I have waited a little longer to see who will be his puppet masters. __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: A REAL NOSTRADAMUS PROPHECY FOR BUSH]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: A REAL NOSTRADAMUS PROPHECY FOR BUSH Date: 21 Dec 2000 11:31:08 - From: "Hogue Prophecy Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member Hogue Prophecy Mailing List - www.hogueprophecy BEYOND "HOAX-TRADAMUS" Here is a real Nostradamus quatrain one could apply to President-Elect Bush.(21 December 2000) Dear friends, We have recently seen a four-line quatrain prophecy about a village idiot becoming the next U.S. president. The prophecy is a fraud attributed to Nostradamus. There is, however, an authentic quatrain that bears closer scrutiny in the coming years. It could be applied to the future presidency of George W. Bush. It is Quatrain 13 of Century 6 of his prophetic masterpiece, Les Propheties. (First in 16th-Century French) Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne, La plus grand part le voudra soustenir: Vn Capitole ne voundra point qu'il regne, Sa grande change ne pourra maintenir. (In English) A doubtful one will not come far from the realm, The greater part will want to support him: A Capitol, will not want him to rule at all, His great burden he will not be able to maintain. This "doubtful one" could stand for the intellectually lightweight president-elect George W. Bush. The "doubt" could imply some ongoing suspicion throughout his presidency that Bush cheated Al Gore (who won the majority of the popular national vote) out of the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics. A fraud in the Florida vote count effectively gave Bush the necessary electoral votes to "legally" win the election. Nostradamus' use of "doubtful one" could also indicate that with time an ever larger shadow of illegitimacy will cast itself across a Bush presidency. The second line might describe a period of attempted healing during the aftermath of the election. A time when a majority of the people of America will try to rally around their "doubtful" new president. Line three may hint to us who President Bush's real political enemies are. By the way, it may not be the Democrats in the deadlocked Congress. My sense is it will be the right wing elements of his own Republican Party. But the obstacles do not end there. Those who "will not want him to rule" could be those men behind the scenes that may have put this malleable man into office to be their rehearsed puppet spokesman for their agenda. How could those who put him there turn against him? Looking at Bush's natal astrological chart I see the potential for great self-delusion and a predilection for substance abuse. The abuse in this case comes from the drug called "power." (I will speak in detail about his astrology in a forthcoming bulletin, and on Coast to Coast AM with Barbara Simpson, on 2 January.) At some time in his presidency Bush will rebel against his handlers. As his presidency becomes more besieged with problems and credibility, he might strive to be his own man and cease to listen to his advisers, causing even greater problems and greater strains upon himself. The last line, therefore, may describe what I fear is some nervous breakdown or health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man. Now, with this interpretation said, I wish to caution you all that there is an even stronger application for this quatrain for an earlier Republican president; one respected by the French people. It must be remembered that Nostradamus saw the future through the perception of a Frenchman. If foreigners come into his vision it is because they are in some way appreciative of, or are influencing the future of, France. We do not know how the French will ultimately regard Bush. Indeed the early signs point to present day and future ridicule. Be that as it may, on page 448 of my book "Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies," I applied this prophecy to Richard Nixon back in 1997. Here is what I said: ** "This is [about] Nixon. Nostradamus would not overlook a man who did so much to change the course of 20th-century history. But our prophet, ever the pessimist, had Nixon to "kick around" long before the controversial American president was born. "In line 1 Nixon is the "doubltful one" who is regarded warmly in France. Even the querulous Charles de Gaulle was an admirer. After Nixon's fall following the Watergate scandal, he could still find respect and honors during his visits to the "realm" of France. Perhaps Nostradamus is saying that Nixon is "not far" from being a Frenchman. In line 2 the "greater part" supporting Nixon during the 1968 presidential elections was what he called the Silent Majority. He declared himself the champion of normal, middle-class Americans who were not represented in the turbulent political arena of the late 1960s. Line 3's "Capitol" represents Washington DC, and the Democrat-controlled Congress of the United States. Their fierce political rivalry with the Republican president finally led to
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: THE HOAX-TRADAMUS QUATRAIN]
-Caveat Lector- Still, it WAS cute. :-D --- mirage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: THE HOAX-TRADAMUS QUATRAIN Date: 21 Dec 2000 01:40:52 - From: "Hogue Prophecy Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member Hogue Prophecy Mailing List - www.hogueprophecy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: A REAL NOSTRADAMUS PROPHECY FOR BUSH]
-Caveat Lector- Now do not forget Nostradamus said world would end in 1666 and it did not - to save his hide and face he then turned the numbers upside down, and said world would end in 1999. We are still herenow comes new millenium.Adolph Hitler used prophecies of Nostradamus and when Churchill found out, he hired astrologers and used the same prophecies predicting a win for England.. None dare call this propaganda but prophecy and propaganda mean the same thing virtually Again as the old King said in I Kings: Did I not tell you he would prophecy no good to me, only evil...Nelson Rockefeller would never permit one negative thought or word to cross his door.he knew the powers of suggestion and liked to sing no doubt, Home On The Range. In Bush, well remember the gentlemen C's and the smart kids with big bucks didn't have to prove anything. There was a prophet during early 30 period as I recall who had the date when the world would endhis followers put on angel robes and climbed a mountain - and nothing heappened and so they killed their prophet - someone made big bomb, and that was that. Saba Ever hear of premeditated murder by prophecy? That was name I gave to my ms way back in 1968. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pan Am 103 The Charge Against Libya: Case Closed or More Disinformation?
-Caveat Lector- from: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/full_text_66_pa103.htm Pan Am 103 The Charge Against Libya: Case Closed or More Disinformation? by William Blum Pan Am Flight 103? Oh yes, Christmas time 1988, those two Libyans did it, but the Libyan leader, Col. Muammar Qaddafi has refused to allow them to be tried in an American or British court. He knows theyll be found guilty, and the whole world will condemn him. He does indeed. But not necessarily because the two men are guilty. The acquittal of the Los Angeles police in the Rodney King beating was sufficient confirmation of the Libyan leaders lack of illusions about the workings of the American justice system.1 The verdict in the O.J. Simpson case may well have reinforced that view, while The Guilford Four, the Birmingham Six, and other infamous miscarriage-of-justice cases in Britain have reportedly imparted to Qaddafi a similar lesson about the U.K.2 Now, with December 21 having marked the tenth anniversary of the tragedy that took two hundred and seventy lives in Lockerbie, Scotland, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Libya have agreed, at least in principle, to try the two Libyan suspects in the Netherlands, before Scottish judges, and under Scottish law. In actuality, the evidence against the Libyans, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi and Lamen Khalifa Fhimah, who worked for Libyan Arab Airlines at the Malta airport, is thin to the point of transparency. There is no forensic evidence to support the charge that they placed a suitcase containing the fatal bomb in an Air Malta plane in Malta, tagging it so it would eventually be transferred to Flight 103 in London. No witnesses, no fingerprints. Nothing to tie them to that particular brown Samsonite suitcase. No past history of terrorism. Among the reported pieces of evidence casting suspicion on the two Libyans or on the Libyan government is an entry on December 15, 1988, in a diary kept by Fhimah, which, according to the U.S. indictment, says: Abdel Basset is coming from Zurich with Salvu...take taggs from Air Malta. It is all in Arabic except for the misspelled taggs. Salvu is not explained.3 However, the indictment further states that Air Malta...was the handling agent for Libyan Arab Airlines for flights to and from Malta, and as such utilized Air Malta luggage tags on luggage destined for Libyan Arab Airline flights. It therefore seems rather unsurprising that Fhimah might have had some normal business reason to be using such tags. More importantly, if he were actually planning a murderous covert operation using the tags, why would he mention them on paper? And then leave the diary in his office where it could be taken? Another piece of evidence presented by U.S./U.K. investigators, out of which they derived much mileage, is that the type of timing device used in the bomb was sold only to Libya. It was later revealed that, in fact, the investigators were told in 1990 by the Swiss manufacturer that it had also sold the same timers to East German intelligence, which had close contact with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC) and numerous other terrorist groups.4 Coverup The investigators failure to disclose this information can best be described by the word coverup. And in any event, there is no reason to assume that Libya could not have given one of their timers to another party. Malta became a focus for investigators, even before serious Libyan involvement was presumed, when tests indicated that the suitcase which contained the bomb also contained several items of clothing manufactured in Malta and supposedly sold in a particular clothing shop on the island. The present U.S./ U.K. version of events would have the world believe that al-Megrahi has been identified by the shopkeeper, Tony Gauci, as the purchaser of the clothing. But there is no such evidence. Al-Megrahi has never been presented to Gauci in person, and there has been no report that Gauci has even been shown his photo. Moreover, the Maltese shopkeeper has already made several erroneous positive identifications, including one of a CIA asset.5 Before the indictment of the two Libyans, the press reported police findings that the clothing had been purchased on November 23.6 But the indictment of al-Megrahi states that he made the purchase on December 7. Can this be because the investigators can document his being in Malta on that date but cannot do so for November 23? The identification of al-Megrahi is even more questionable than the above indicates.7 The fact that the investigative authorities do not make clear exactly how al-Megrahi was identified by Gauci is indicative of the weakness of their case. Furthermore, after the world was assured that these items of clothing were sold only on Malta, it was learned that at least one of the items was actually sold at dozens of outlets throughout Europe, and it was impossible to trace the purchaser.8 Once
[CTRL] Communists Now Least Threatening Group In U.S.
-Caveat Lector- From the Onion: Communists Now Least Threatening Group In U.S. WASHINGTON, DC-- According to a report released Tuesday by the Pentagon, Communists rank last on a list of 238 threats to national security. "Communists may now safely be ignored," Secretary of Defense William Cohen said. "The Red Menace has been surpassed by militia groups, religious extremists, ecoterrorists, cybercriminals, Hollywood producers, and angry drivers." Other groups deemed more threatening than Communists include rap-metal bands (#96), escaped zoo animals (#202), and Belgians (#237). A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: FBI reportedly hid key evidence
-Caveat Lector- http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/356/metro/FBI_reportedly_hid_key_evidenceP.shtml FBI reportedly hid key evidence Documents show it knew of Deegan slaying plot in '65 By Ralph Ranalli, Globe Correspondent, 12/21/2000 Secret documents recently discovered in a Justice Department probe of FBI corruption appear to show that the bureau knew not only that the wrong men were convicted of a 1965 gangland murder, but also that agents were told about the plot two days before it happened and apparently did nothing to stop it. The reports, found at FBI headquarters in Washington, were turned over yesterday to lawyers for reputed Mafia associate Peter J. Limone, who has served 32 years in prison for the slaying of small-time hoodlum Edward ''Teddy'' Deegan in Chelsea. They strongly suggest that the FBI's chief witness at the 1968 trial, legendary Boston hit man Joseph ''The Animal'' Barboza, framed Limone and several other men. As Limone languished in prison for three decades, documents that might have proved his innocence sat in secret FBI informant files in Washington and were never turned over to the defense, attorney John Cavicchi of East Boston said yesterday. ''This is a disgrace. If it weren't so tragic it would be laughable,'' said Cavicchi, who is handling Limone's bid to have his conviction overturned in Middlesex Superior Court. Boston FBI spokeswoman Gail Marcinkiewicz declined comment. The new documents also reveal for the first time that the brother of infamous gangster and FBI informant Stephen Flemmi was also successfully recruited as an FBI informant for five months in 1965 - even though other informants were telling the bureau that he was responsible for numerous killings and that he had vowed to become Boston's ''No. 1 hit man.'' FBI evaluation reports of Vincent J. ''Jimmy the Bear'' Flemmi's potential usefulness as an FBI mole show the chilling lengths the FBI was willing to go to in its clandestine organized crime informant program. Special Agent Dennis Condon, for example, wrote one 1964 report that an unnamed informant said Jimmy Flemmi had boasted about becoming Boston's most prolific full-time assassin. ''Flemmi told him [the informant] that all he wants to do now is kill people, and that it is better than hitting banks,'' the report states. ''Informant said Flemmi said that he feels he can now be the top hit man in this area and intends to be.'' Another report said Flemmi was a suspect in the Deegan murder and several other killings, but that recruiting him as an informant was ''worth the risk.'' Even supporters of Limone and the other defendants, who contended for years that they were the victims of an FBI frame-up, called the contents of the documents shocking. Boston lawyer Victor Garo, who represents Limone's co-defendant, Joseph Salvati, went as far as telling WBZ-TV (Channel 4) that the prosecution was an FBI ''murder conspiracy'' because the punishment for murder at the time was death in the electric chair. Four of the defendants, including Limone and Salvati, received death sentences that were later changed to life. The reports were turned over to Cavicchi, Garo, and Suffolk District Attorney Ralph Martin II's office yesterday by Special US Attorney John Durham, who for the last several years has been investigating corruption in the FBI's informant relationships with gangsters Stephen Flemmi and Whitey Bulger. Durham could not be reached for comment yesterday. One key report states that on March 10, 1965 - two days before the murder - an unidentified FBI informant told Special Agent H. Paul Rico that Jimmy Flemmi was planning to kill Deegan and that the murder had the blessing of then-New England Mafia boss Raymond L.S. Patriarca. ''Informant advised that he had just heard from Jimmy Flemmi, and Flemmi told the informant that Raymond Patriarca has put out the word that Edward `Teddy' Deegan is to be `hit,' and that a dry run has already been made and that a close associate of Deegan's has agreed to set him up,'' Rico's report states. One day after the murder, another informant told Rico that Flemmi, Barboza, and three other men had committed the crime. Neither Limone, Salvati, nor two other co-defendants, top New England Mafia advisor Henry Tameleo and underworld figure Louis Greco, were mentioned. The information was forwarded to FBI headquarters in director J. Edgar Hoover's name, although there is no indication whether Hoover himself actually saw it. All four men were convicted. Tameleo and Greco died in prison, while Salvati's sentence was later commuted. None of the information, Cavicchi said, was turned over to the defense in the case. Barboza, who was recruited as an FBI witness by Rico and Condon, was the key witness and the only witness against Limone. Privately, even law enforcement officials involved in the case were calling the new documents significant. ''You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that it's not
[CTRL] Fwd: eBookman
-Caveat Lector- Presumably item 3 means that location such as Lawrence Livermore Labs, Sandia, etc. will not be allowed to develop for the eBookman (a Palm-like device). --- Please be aware that in order to download the eBookMan software, you will be asked to certify that: 1. You are not listed on the Denied Persons List (http://www.bxa.doc.gov/DPL/) or The Entity List (http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Entities/) published by the U.S. Department of Commerce Bureau of Export Administration; or the Special Designated Nationals List (http://www.treas.gov/ofac/index.html) published by the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control. 2. You are not a citizen, a resident of, or currently in an embargoed country (North Korea, Cuba, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Serbia, or the Taliban-controlled areas of Afghanistan). 3. You will not use these products in, either directly or indirectly, the development of nuclear weapons, or any components thereof; of guided missiles; or of chemical or biological weapons. If you will not be able to certify to all of the above, please do not purchase the device. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner
-Caveat Lector- "Communists, Socialists and Fascists are dishonest. They claim their twisted political philosophies are based on rationalisminstead of a warped perspective on human nature." and how does that make them different from capitalists? If I have ever met anyone with a twisted view of human nature it was my economics professor who seemed to believe (as all economists do) that people act in the market rationally, and in their own best interest...which does not explain the amount of money spent on Pokemon, Junk Food, etc... M -Original Message- From: flw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bush-"World Champion Executioner" -Caveat Lector- Nessie writes in part: Capitalism is capitalism. Private capitalism is capitalism. State monopoly capitalism is capitalism. They both suck. What the Reds did was not communism. It was just just a variant of capitalism. REAL communism is like Acts 2:44-46 This is an example of fuzzy thinking. There is no real difference between communism and capitalism - merely a substitution of one elite (the party elite) for the old elite (the capitalist elite). Capitalism and Communism cannot exist without the active participation of the State. Capitalism is created out of whole cloth through Statism. Communism can only exist through Statism. Those who "believe" in "real communism" really do..."believe." Belief in Communism is faith based. It is as irrational to believe in Communism as it is to believe in any other faith based religious system. It is no mere coincidence that Marx came from a long line of Rabbis I have more respect for those who admit their religiousity. Most religious types at least admit their religion is not rationally based but is faith based. Communists, Socialists and Fascists are dishonest. They claim their twisted political philosophies are based on rationalisminstead of a warped perspective on human nature. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
Now why isn't Sharpton being investigated by IRS? They harassed me over $50.00 once, and I ended up in Court of Appeals - we settled for $35.00 (compromised, last section of Federal Income Code - big shots use this one)... IRS afraid of Clinton here? Because Hill and Sharpton are such buddy buddy birds of feather? Saba Advertise Your Banner Here December 21, 2000 $15,000 Value: Win Two FREE Tickets to the Super Bowl Home · Columnists · Late Night Jokes · Forum · Archives News Alerts · U.S. News Links · U.K. News · Int'l News Links · MoneyNews Contact Us · NewsMax Store · Classifieds · Get Your Site Listed With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Thursday, Dec. 21, 2000 4:41 p.m. EST Rev. Al's Curious Finances The Rev. Al Sharpton, a key political ally of Senator-elect Hillary Clinton, lives what looks like a fairly lavish personal lifestyle - dressing in expensive suits, paying top-dollar tuition for his two daughters at a Brooklyn private school, and traveling the country whenever the need arises for one of his patented "No Justice, No Peace" rallies. One would hardly know the good reverend is practically broke - or so he maintained in a deposition earlier this month, a copy of which was obtained by the New York Times Thursday. Sharpton says he can't afford to pay the $65,000 judgment against him in a defamation lawsuit brought by Dutchess County, N.Y., prosecutor Stephen Pagones. The pompadoured preacher had smeared Pagones while championing the cause of Tawana Brawley, a black teen-ager who fabricated rape charges against the prosecutor and others in 1986. To prove his impoverishment, Sharpton had to detail his finances to Pagones' lawyer, Garry Bolnick, earlier this month. Turns out that just about all the Rev. Sharpton's worldy goods were either given to him or are on loan from his business operation, "Rev. Als [no apostrophe] Productions." Here's one of the more amusing excerpts from Sharpton's deposition. BOLNICK: Rev. Sharpton, how many suits do you own? SHARPTON: Well, you would have to - I debate whether I own it because a lot of that is business expense, but I have access to about 10 or 12. BOLNICK: And you say that you - you say they are business expenses. Are they paid for by someone other than yourself? SHARPTON: Some. BOLNICK: Are they paid for by the National Action Network [Sharpton's Harlem-based civil rights operation]? SHARPTON: No. BOLNICK: Are they paid for by Rev. Als Productions? SHARPTON: Maybe a couple. BOLNICK: Any other wearing apparel of yours paid for by other parties? SHARPTON: Yeah, I would say half my suits are gifts. The suit I have on, a guy gave me. BOLNICK: Have you ever purchased a suit for yourself? SHARPTON: Not lately. Other items Sharpton seems to possess without actually owning: a stereo, a TV, cars, silverware and assorted other middle-class accoutrements. Sharpton told Bolnick that 99 percent of his salary from his National Action Network gig (about $70,000 a year) is immediately invested in Rev. Als Productions. Perhaps that's why he hasn't filed any personal income tax returns since 1998. His daughters' $30,000 Polyprep Country Day School tuition is paid for by the same company. He claims Rev. Als was incorporated with New York state, but he can't remember when and New York has no record of its existence. Sharpton supplements his income with $300 bi-monthly "expense" checks from his National Action Network radio show - plus donations he gets from his "preachings." "They pass the plate and give it to me," Sharpton told Bolnick about the income he calls "love offerings." "I could get $1; I could get $1,000," says the rotund Rev. Despite his unorthodox financial arrangements, the Rev. Sharpton seems to have escaped the scrutiny of the Clinton IRS. Lucky for him his name isn't Jones, Flowers, Dale, Broaddrick or Gracen. Printer Friendly Version Inside Cover Stories Zogby: Gore Leads Hillary for 2004 Is Clinton Pulling the Plug on the Dow's Plunge Protection Team? Rev. Al's Curious Finances Poll: Don't Pardon Clinton or His Whitewater Cronies That Unbelievable Democrat Turnout Hillary's Book Set to Open Old Wounds for Foster's Widow Welcome to Tennessee Those GOP 'Thugs' in Miami Were Reporters Clinton: Blame Elian, Not Monica, for Gore's Loss; Jones Case a 'Fraud' Wash Post Digs Through Phone Records in 'Get Harris' Dirt Quest Clinton Impeachment Disappears Down Media Memory Hole More Inside Cover Stories Contact Us · Financial News · UK News · Late Night Jokes · Forum · Article Archives · Employment Ops. All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/12/21/154317
[CTRL] Solstice marked by sacrifice
Clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) Brother George
Walker Bush performed a ritual self-immolation today, Thursday,
December 21, 2000, to mark the occasion of the CLuM high
holiday of the Winter Solstice.
Bush's ritual sacrifice consisted of his resignation as the
Governor of the Lone Star (of Pythagoras) State of Texas. Bush,
as the mythological Phoenix, immolated himself on this first day of
Capricorn, in order to be born again as President of New Atlantis
on the first day of Aquarius, January 20, 2001.
As you remember, this past Summer's Solstice had been marked
by the twin executions of Gary ("Aharon") Lee ("Levi") Graham in
Texas and Thomas ("The Twin") Provenzano in Florida. Aharon
Levi Graham was murdered by Bush as an offering to Lucifer/Satan
for the success of Bush's Presidential campaign.
"The Twin" Provenzano was murdered by Jeb Bush to insure a
successful outcome for the Florida Farce that the November
criminals had already planned.
[CTRL] 'Super Hospital' proposed for undesirables.
-Caveat Lector- This is the sort of important story I feature daily at http://leviathan.weblogs.com From The Times http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-54527,00.html Mentally ill may be detained in 'super-hospital' BY RICHARD FORD AND JILL SHERMAN THOUSANDS of people with severe personality disorders could be detained in a single, campus-style, hospital under a reform of mental health laws in England and Wales announced yesterday. Dangerous offenders would be housed in 50-bed units within a secure perimeter fence and serviced from a central administration area. The proposal is being considered as a cheaper alternative to building separate small secure units which would be highly expensive and provoke nimbyism. Building a single huge hospital would also avoid the problem of multiple applications for planning permission for units which could house convicted paedophiles. The Home Office plan is a result of proposals for the biggest overhaul of mental health laws for more than 40 years. The reforms will give doctors powers to lock up people even if they have not committed a crime and to detain prisoners who remain dangerous even after serving their sentence. The White Paper, Reforming the Mental Health Act, published yesterday, will allow individuals with severe personality disorders to be detained indefinitely if experts believe they are a danger to the public. Psychiatric patients in the community will undergo compulsory treatment. If they refuse, they will be returned to hospital. At present a person can only be forced to take treatment if they are sectioned. Victims of violent crime committed by mentally ill people will be told when their attacker is to be released. The changes are intended to close legal loopholes and meet public concern at the failings of care in the community. They have been drawn up in the wake of a series of murders by mentally ill people living in the community, such as that of Jonathan Zito who was killed by Christopher Clunes, a schizophrenic, in 1992, and the case of Michael Stone, convicted of murdering Lin Russell and her daughter Megan in Kent in 1996. He suffered from a severe personality disorder but, despite it having been diagnosed for several years, he could not be looked after in a secure mental unit because the disorder is deemed untreatable. The overhaul, which is unlikely to come into effect for at least two years, removes the criteria of treatability. Many charities welcomed the plans outlined by Alan Milburn, the Health Secretary, but others said that the sweeping new powers would prompt a return to Victorian-style asylums, with innocent people locked up. More than 2,000 people in the UK are believed to have a dangerous personality disorder. An estimated 1,400 are in jails, 400 in hospitals and up to 600 are in the community. Graeme Sandell of the National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders said the powers were an excessive reaction to a genuine and legitimate public concern. But Cliff Prior of the National Schizophrenia Fellowship said that the proposals were an early Christmas present for everyone who believed it was time to end the Cinderella status of mental health. But it is a Christmas present that carries a demand for payment. There can be no buy-now, pay-later period. Liberty, the civil rights group, expressed serious concern at plans to detain people with a mental disorder. Mary Cunneen of Liberty said: This means that an individual with any form of mental disorder can be detained against their will, even if they cannot be effectively treated and have not done anything wrong, on the basis that they pose a risk to others. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'pres'-elect bush: Takeover would BE EASIER IFIWEREDICTATOR! EXACT QUOTE!
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:27:51 -0800 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- I have not heard the same level of malice returned to Liberals/Democrats either That's incredible. Are you reading the same list!?! Has anyone else here missed out on the constant stream of (oft deserved) venom that pours from the right? This list fairly drips with it. Missed it? Hell I have been the target of some of it. But you forget, when it comes from the left it is malicious, when it comes from the righ it is truth (just ask Rush). Personally, I don't like either of them. They're both liars, they're both thieves and they're both bullies. Nothing would make me happier than if the left got out of my wallet and the right got out of my bedroom. But don't hold your breath. Same here. I'll bet most of the list also agrees. How about it lurkers? Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] News on Albany co. that refuses to close Narco News
-Caveat Lector- Keep up the good work Kris. The government is under so much attack from so many angles that something has to break soon. You know this issue is one of my pet GO buttons. I'm sending it around my own network of activists. On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:28:28 EST Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Narco News salutes our Internet Service Provider, Voxel.net, for standing tall in the face of threats against it, and for recognizing Narco News as "a public service." Here is the local angle by reporter Larry Goodwin of Metroland... And what After Tuesday's VOICE article, Akin Gump's McLish is suddenly "not authorized" to speak to the press? A self-inflicted gag order? More to come... Other Mexican papers have reported how Hernández hosted a private reception at his ranch this year that was attended by newly elected Mexican President Vincente Fox, U.S. ambassador to Mexico Jeffrey Davidow and President Bill Clinton. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: A REAL NOSTRADAMUS PROPHECY FOR BUSH]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/21/00 1:45:23 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last line, therefore, may describe what I fear is some nervous breakdown or health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man. I suspect GW and his siblings were ritually abused. I have little doubt that the Bush family is part of the satanic cult/intel network. I think much of what Cathy O'Brien wrote in "Trance-formation of America" is true even though the book itself was part of a larger disinfo scheme. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Psychiatric Racketeers
There is no field of human endeavor that clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) will leave untouched by their filthy hands. Last week the CLuM-controlled media reported on a psychiatric study of Winnie-the-Pooh and his friends in the Hundred Acre Wood. The study was conducted by a group of Canadian pediatricians led by CLuM Sister Dr. Sarah E. Shea, most likely a Marrano, and published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal. The CLuM pediatricians' recommendation? "We feel drugs are in order." They diagnose Pooh with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). They recommend a regimen of low-dose Ritalin for him. Eeyore is found to suffer from chronic depression, treatable with Prozac. Piglet is suffering from generalized anxiety disorder and an anti- panic medication, such as Paroxetine, is recommended. How long will it be before we mourn victims in the Hundred Acre Wood? How long before CLuMs turn the honey-loving Winnie-the- Pooh into a homicidal cartoon version of Eric Harris, the Butcher of Columbine?
[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?NYP=3A_MONICA_TRASHES_=91REVOLTING'_TRIPP?=
-Caveat Lector- PAGE SIX New York Post Thursday, December 21, 2000 By RICHARD JOHNSON with PAULA FROELICH and CHRIS WILSON MONICA TRASHES 'REVOLTING' TRIPP MONICA Lewinsky - fed up with turning the other cheek - has lashed back at Linda Tripp for her hurtful remarks in George magazine. In a statement exclusive to PAGE SIX, she says that surgically-enhanced Tripp "will always be revolting to me." Lewinsky, stung by Tripp's nine-page interview in George, issued a response that was carefully vetted by her lawyer before it was dictated to us by her respresentative, Julie Nadler. "I am still under an immunity agreement and therefore limited as to how I can respond. I wish [Tripp] would stop making false and inaccurate statements about my family and me. She violated me enough by recording conversations that I thought were private, when I was only 23 years old. "What is often overlooked is that by ensuring I became a part of a [Paula Jones] lawsuit, she guaranteed those recordings would become public. She can reconstruct her face, her hair, and her body, but she will always be revolting to me." In the wide-ranging interview with Nancy Collins, Tripp denied she was ever really friends with Monica. "The idea that I would cultivate this foolish young girl is offensive. I thought she was a pest," Tripp said. She also revealed private family secrets. Asked if Monica's mother, Marsha Lewis, knew about the affair with Bill Clinton, Tripp replied: "Not only did she know about it, she encouraged it. She bought her lingerie to wear when she saw the president." Tripp boasts in the magazine she was a reluctant witness motivated only by patriotism. "I never took a nickel - nothing . . . I turned down millions - even though I drive a nine-year-old car and live in a rented house." But when The Post sought permission to publish some of the photos that appear in George, Tripp's lawyer demanded $5,000. Tripp is at her most disingenuous when she attempts to explain why she leaked the affair to Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff: "I didn't betray Monica Lewinsky. I figured that whatever happened would be better for her than the callous abuse she was suffering at the hands of the president . . . Besides . . . she had already told 14 people." And why did Linda begin taping Monica's phone calls? "Because by then I realized that I was in the president's personal crosshairs, that he was pitting me against Monica, me against him." Looks like he succeeded. snip balance = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Psychiatric Racketeers
Shaun wrote: Subject: Re: Psychiatric Racketeers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaun Patrick Darragh) Date: 12/21/00 9:00 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Dec 2000 02:55:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225) wrote: There is no field of human endeavor that clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) will leave untouched by their filthy hands. Last week the CLuM-controlled media reported on a psychiatric study of Winnie-the-Pooh and his friends in the Hundred Acre Wood. The study was conducted by a group of Canadian pediatricians led by CLuM Sister Dr. Sarah E. Shea, most likely a Marrano, and published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal. The CLuM pediatricians' recommendation? "We feel drugs are in order." They diagnose Pooh with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). They recommend a regimen of low-dose Ritalin for him. Eeyore is found to suffer from chronic depression, treatable with Prozac. Piglet is suffering from generalized anxiety disorder and an anti- panic medication, such as Paroxetine, is recommended. How long will it be before we mourn victims in the Hundred Acre Wood? Are you saying that Tigger shouldn't be taking his ritalin? Shaun Tigger was found to be beyond Ritalin. His "risk-taking behavior and impulsiveness" call for sedation.
[CTRL] REU: YahooNews: Sixty-two Journalists die in 2000
-Caveat Lector- [Rhetorical question - Does this count, the "suicide" of Brit Hume's son? The elder Hume had been one of the few high-profile media critical of Clinton, even suspecting many suicides of Clinton's associates of actually being murders. I suspect that these deaths don't just happen in other countries.] http://uk.news.yahoo.com/001219/80/aswdi.html Yahoo! Breaking News Tuesday December 19, 2:42 PM Sixty-two journalists killed in 2000 BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Some 62 journalists and media staff have been killed so far in 2000, many of them after exposing corruption or expressing political dissent, the International Federation of Journalists said. In its annual tally of journalists killed in the course of their work, the Brussels- based IFJ -- the world's largest journalists' organisation -- reported killings in Sierra Leone, Spain, Russia, Pakistan, Mozambique and Colombia. "The death toll speaks for itself -- journalists risk their lives daily for expressing independent opinions and exposing wrongdoing," IFJ General Secretary Aidan White said in a statement. Journalists killed in war zones included veteran Reuters reporter Kurt Schork and Miguel Gil Moreno of the Associated Press, killed in May in an ambush in Sierra Leone. Among victims of assassination were Spain's Jose Luis Lopez de la Calle, an outspoken critic of the Basque separatist group ETA, nine journalists targeted by the paramilitary in Colombia's long-running civil conflict and Sergei Novikov, a Russian radio station owner who criticised powerful regional bosses. The IFJ welcomed a recent decision by a number of major media organisations to adopt a Code of Conduct for Safety for their staff. "Media must do everything they can to create safe working conditions," said the IFJ, which has published its own safety code for journalists. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McMartin Tunnels
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems to me it would have been very hard to build this complex of tunnels in secret. I take it you have never read an account of life at Luftstalag III, or seen Hollywood's fictionalized version, The Great Escape. And you're probably too young to remember Viet Nam. I'm 47, so I remember Viet Nam very well. The tunnels the Viet Cong used were only secret to the enemy, not to sympathizers. In other words, I find it hard to believe that no villager in an area where the tunnels were being built by the VC knew that they were being built. We're not talking prisoners working on escaping here...we're talking a complex of tunnels built presumably by those in charge, not by those who were IN their charge. According to the article, these tunnels went to other buildings nearby...how could access have been gained to those other buildings, if the McMartin's didn't own those buildings? The article also stated that one tunnel had an underground room off of it...this doesn't sound like some narrow escape tunnel, but something planned carefully, and built strongly. Who drew up the plans, who did the actual construction? Was it hired out, or are we to believe it was done on weekends by some pedophilic Tooltime Tim, with materials procured at Home Depot and Lowe's? And if the latter, one would think that neighbors would have noticed SOMETHING going on... So perhaps the tunnel complex predates the buildings above them? And that the access to and from these various buildings in the neighborhood -- including the McMartin Preschool -- were added those buildings were constructed...? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE AMERICAN LENIN by L. Neil Smith
-Caveat Lector- http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBVi ewItem.asp?ID=1303 THE AMERICAN LENIN -- by L. Neil Smith -- It's harder and harder these days to tell a liberal from a conservative -- given the former category's increasingly blatant hostility toward the First Amendment, and the latter's prissy new disdain for the Second Amendment -- but it's still easy to tell a liberal from a libertarian. Just ask about either Amendment. If what you get back is a spirited defense of the ideas of this country's Founding Fathers, what you've got is a libertarian. By shameful default, libertarians have become America's last and only reliable stewards of the Bill of Rights. But if -- and this usually seems a bit more difficult to most people -- you'd like to know whether an individual is a libertarian or a conservative, ask about Abraham Lincoln. Suppose a woman -- with plenty of personal faults herself, let that be stipulated -- desired to leave her husband: partly because he made a regular practice, in order to go out and get drunk, of stealing money she had earned herself by raising chickens or taking in laundry; and partly because he'd already demonstrated a proclivity for domestic violence the first time she'd complained about his stealing. Now, when he stood in the doorway and beat her to a bloody pulp to keep her home, would we memorialize him as a hero? Or would we treat him like a dangerous lunatic who should be locked up, if for no other reason, then for trying to maintain the appearance of a relationship where there wasn't a relationship any more? What value, we would ask, does he find in continuing to possess her in an involuntary association, when her heart and mind had left him long ago? History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted brute government force -- "sell to us at our price or pay a fine that'll put you out of business" -- for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. That's what an export tariff's all about. In support of this "noble principle", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance, Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin that butchered more Americans than all of this country's foreign wars -- before or afterward -- rolled into one. Lincoln saw the introduction of total war on the American continent -- indiscriminate mass slaughter and destruction without regard to age, gender, or combat status of the victims -- and oversaw the systematic shelling and burning of entire cities for strategic and tactical purposes. For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, rather late in the war, that black slaves were now free in the south -- where he had no effective jurisdiction -- while declaring at the same time, somewhat more quietly but for the record nonetheless, that if maintaining slavery could have won his war for him, he'd have done that, instead. The fact is, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery at all, he nationalized it, imposing income taxation and military conscription upon what had been a free country before he took over -- income taxation and military conscription to which newly "freed" blacks soon found themselves subjected right alongside newly-enslaved whites. If the civil war was truly fought against slavery -- a dubious, "politically correct" assertion with no historical evidence to back it up -- then clearly, slavery won. Lincoln brought secret police to America, along with the traditional midnight "knock on the door", illegally suspending the Bill of Rights and, like the Latin America dictators he anticipated, "disappearing" thousands in the north whose only crime was that they disagreed with him. To finance his crimes against humanity, Lincoln allowed the printing of worthless paper money in unprecedented volumes, ultimately plunging America into a long, grim depression -- in the south, it lasted half a century -- he didn't have to live through, himself. In the end, Lincoln didn't unite this country -- that can't be done by force -- he divided it along lines of an unspeakably ugly hatred and resentment that continue to exist almost a century and a half after they were drawn. If Lincoln could have been put on trial in Nuremburg for war crimes, he'd have received the same sentence as the highest-ranking Nazis. If real libertarians ran things, they'd melt all the Lincoln pennies, shred all the Lincoln fives, take a wrecking ball to the Lincoln Memorial, and consider erecting monuments to John Wilkes Booth. Libertarians know Lincoln as the worst President America has ever had to suffer, with Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Lyndon Johnson running a distant second, third, and fourth. Conservatives, on the other hand, adore Lincoln, publicly admire his methods, and revere him as the best President America ever had. One
[CTRL] [Say WHAT?] Re: Solstice marked by sacrifice
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May I ask you of what authority you claim all this stuff?
And, thanks.
Mike
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, PM Kansan1225 wrote:
Clandestine Luciferian Masonic (CLuM) Brother George
Walker Bush performed a ritual self-immolation today, Thursday,
December 21, 2000, to mark the occasion of the CLuM high
holiday of the Winter Solstice.
Bush's ritual sacrifice consisted of his resignation as the
Governor of the Lone Star (of Pythagoras) State of Texas. Bush,
as the mythological Phoenix, immolated himself on this first day of
Capricorn, in order to be born again as President of New Atlantis
on the first day of Aquarius, January 20, 2001.
As you remember, this past Summer's Solstice had been marked
by the twin executions of Gary ("Aharon") Lee ("Levi") Graham in
Texas and Thomas ("The Twin") Provenzano in Florida. Aharon
Levi Graham was murdered by Bush as an offering to Lucifer/Satan
for the success of Bush's Presidential campaign.
"The Twin" Provenzano was murdered by Jeb Bush to insure a
successful outcome for the Florida Farce that the November
criminals had already planned.
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Re: [CTRL] 'Super Hospital' proposed for undesirables.
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: http://leviathan.weblogs.com From The Times http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-54527,00.html Mentally ill may be detained in 'super-hospital' BY RICHARD FORD AND JILL SHERMAN THOUSANDS of people with severe personality disorders could be detained in a single, campus-style, hospital under a reform of mental health laws in England and Wales announced yesterday. Dangerous offenders would be housed in 50-bed units within a secure perimeter fence and serviced from a central administration area. The proposal is being considered as a cheaper alternative to building separate small secure units which would be highly expensive and provoke nimbyism. [What's "nymbyism?"] Building a single huge hospital would also avoid the problem of multiple applications for planning permission for units which could house convicted paedophiles. The Home Office plan is a result of proposals for the biggest overhaul of mental health laws for more than 40 years. The reforms will give doctors powers to lock up people even if they have not committed a crime and to detain prisoners who remain dangerous even after serving their sentence. The White Paper, Reforming the Mental Health Act, published yesterday, will allow individuals with severe personality disorders to be detained indefinitely if experts believe they are a danger to the public. Psychiatric patients in the community will undergo compulsory treatment. If they refuse, they will be returned to hospital. At present a person can only be forced to take treatment if they are sectioned. Victims of violent crime committed by mentally ill people will be told when their attacker is to be released. The changes are intended to close legal loopholes and meet public concern at the failings of care in the community. They have been drawn up in the wake of a series of murders by mentally ill people living in the community, such as that of Jonathan Zito who was killed by Christopher Clunes, a schizophrenic, in 1992, and the case of Michael Stone, convicted of murdering Lin Russell and her daughter Megan in Kent in 1996. He suffered from a severe personality disorder but, despite it having been diagnosed for several years, he could not be looked after in a secure mental unit because the disorder is deemed untreatable. The overhaul, which is unlikely to come into effect for at least two years, removes the criteria of treatability. Many charities welcomed the plans outlined by Alan Milburn, the Health Secretary, but others said that the sweeping new powers would prompt a return to Victorian-style asylums, with innocent people locked up. More than 2,000 people in the UK are believed to have a dangerous personality disorder. An estimated 1,400 are in jails, 400 in hospitals and up to 600 are in the community. Graeme Sandell of the National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders said the powers were an excessive reaction to a genuine and legitimate public concern. But Cliff Prior of the National Schizophrenia Fellowship said that the proposals were an early Christmas present for everyone who believed it was time to end the Cinderella status of mental health. But it is a Christmas present that carries a demand for payment. There can be no buy-now, pay-later period. Liberty, the civil rights group, expressed serious concern at plans to detain people with a mental disorder. Mary Cunneen of Liberty said: This means that an individual with any form of mental disorder can be detained against their will, even if they cannot be effectively treated and have not done anything wrong, on the basis that they pose a risk to others. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] Clinton to pardon himself?
-Caveat Lector- [Wow! Who else but Clinton could pull this off?!? lol!] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:38:17 -0800 From: Ray Heizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clinton to pardon himself? Dick Morris on Paula Zahn on FoxNews just now warned folks that Clinton may pardon himself in the next few days (he made no prediction, just said it was possible, particularly since his approval numbers are high and no one is paying attention). Also Morris seemed to be implying that Susan McDougal and Hubbell would likely be pardoned for having served him well (i.e. having served time rather than talking). Says those two pardons are more or less ceremonial since neither are in, or facing, prison. They then moved on to Robert Ray's strategy (and the grand jury he has convened in Northern Virginia rather than DC). It is unclear to me whether Clinton can pardon himself for OIC matters. Does anyone know? = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Welcome to the National Organic Program
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[CTRL] Clinton Prepared to 'Stand And Fight' if Indicted
-Caveat Lector- BlankWednesday December 20 4:51 AM ET Clinton Prepared to 'Stand And Fight' if Indicted By Arshad Mohammed WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Clinton (news - web sites) said in an interview released on Tuesday he was prepared to ``stand and fight'' if he was indicted after leaving office. In a wide-ranging, one-hour interview with CBS News taped on Monday, Clinton said he wanted to rest for a while after leaving the White House, mused about some of his political adversaries, and said he didn't have a clue if his wife, Sen.-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), might run for president. Dan Rather, who conducted the interview, asked Clinton if he expected to be indicted by the office of the independent counsel, which investigated the Whitewater real-estate deal, his affair with Monica Lewinsky and a host of other issues. ``Look, I don't have any idea. I don't have any control over that and I don't spend much time thinking about it,'' he said in a transcript of the interview released by the White House. Asked if he thought President-elect George W. Bush (news - web sites), the Republican Texas governor who takes his place on Jan. 20, might pardon him, Clinton said: ``I haven't given any thought to that. But I doubt it. I mean, no, I haven't thought about that.'' ``Since I don't believe I should be charged, I don't want that,'' he added. ``If that's what they want, I'll be happy to stand and fight.'' ``A Fraud From The Get-Go'' Clinton, asked to say the first thing that came into his mind on a host of topics, offered some trenchant observations on his eight years in office and on his many adversaries. Asked about the investigation of Whitewater, an Arkansas real estate venture that he and his wife invested in in 1978 and ultimately lost money on, he replied: ``Biggest bogus issue in modern American politics. Classic -- it was a fraud from the get-go and a lot of the people that were propagating it knew it was a fraud,'' he said. Newt Gingrich, the former House of Representatives Speaker who led the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994 and resigned during the impeachment crisis, came off relatively well: ``A brilliant adversary, and a complicated man.'' Not so for Tom DeLay, the Republican House whip who is known for his bare-knuckled tactics in enforcing discipline within his party. ``My problem with him is his whole view about how you should treat your opponents is very different from mine,'' Clinton said. ``He's got a total scorch-and-burn policy -- take them out, whatever the cost, whatever you have to do.'' ``I Need To Rest'' Kenneth Starr, the independent counsel who presided over the investigation into Clinton's affair with Lewinsky and his dissembling to conceal it, also came in for some harsh words. ``They put him in there because (former independent counsel Robert) Fiske was a fair, balanced man and the whole thing was going to be over before the '96 election and they didn't want that,'' Clinton said. ``So they put him in there; said drag it out and get a bigger body count ... he did just what he was supposed to.'' Clinton said he thought talk that his wife, who has won a seat in the U.S. Senate representing New York, might run for president in 2004 or 2008 was ``worse than idle speculation.'' He said he had advised her to ``solidify her roots in New York'' and simply did not know if she, or anybody else, would definitely run for president. Asked about his own plans, Clinton said he wanted to kick back and rest for a while, then make some money for his family, and eventually find a way to be useful without getting in the way of future presidents. But first, he said: ``I need to take a couple of months and just go down. I need to rest. I've been working like crazy for 27 years.'' __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
[CTRL] What Bush Should Do In His First 24 Hours as President
-Caveat Lector- Bush's "First 100 Days"? How about his "First 24 Hours"? by Richard A. Viguerie, President - ConservativeHQ.com a href="http://www.conservativehq.com/chq/displayarticle?articleId=6545" http://www.conservativehq.com/chq/displayarticle?articleId=6545 /a George W. Bush took office after a disputed election in which the country was divided nearly in half. What happens now depends on him. He can spend the next four years waiting for Al Gore's comeback, or he can seize the reins of power and lead. Forget the "First 100 Days." He will set the tone of his administration in the first 24 hours. In that first day, he must establish that he is in charge. He must show that, regardless of the circumstances of his election, he is wholly lacking in self-doubt. He must establish that he will use the powers of his office to further the agenda on which he was elected. If, in the first 24 hours, the new president does not outrage the Clinton-Gore crowd that desecrated the Oval Office and the Lincoln Bedroom -- if he does not deeply shock and offend the adversaries who thought they could steal the election away from him -- he won't be doing what he needs to do. Here are some things he should do within 24 hours of taking his hand off the Bible: 1. Countermand all executive orders issued by Bill Clinton. 2. Reinstate the two "Beck" orders issued by former President Bush (and revoked by President Clinton) that informed workers of their right to refuse to pay most union dues. 3. Order a full and complete audit of organizations that receive federal funds and then lobby for more federal funds, to determine how they launder taxpayers' money into lobbying efforts. Specifically, audit Jesse Jackson's organizations regarding their use of taxpayers' money. 4. Reissue the executive order requiring Family Impact Statements, evaluations of executive branch actions to determine the effect of each action on the family. 5. Name an FDA commissioner who will reexamine rules regarding the so-called RU-486 abortion pill in order to better protect women's health. 6. Order his staff to help create new privately funded organizations to represent key parts of a successful conservative/Republican governing coalition. 7. Fire all U.S. attorneys (top federal prosecutors), just as Clinton did upon taking office. 8. Cooperate fully with efforts by watchdog groups such as Judicial Watch to find evidence of wrongdoing during the Clinton-Gore administration. 9. Announce that there will be prosecution, to the fullest extent of the law, of any attempt to conceal or destroy such evidence. 10. Make special efforts to find and preserve incriminating e-mails. 11. Publicly release all materials that supported calls by career prosecutors for action against President and Mrs. Clinton and Vice President Gore. EXECUTIVE ORDERS: Facing for the past six years a Republican Congress, President Clinton has, on one issue after another, simply seized power by executive order. He has ordered federal agencies to discriminate on the basis of national origin. He has ordered the federal government to operate using more than 300 languages (an impossibility, but Politically Correct). He has seized rivers and placed them under his control. He has violated the Constitution by effectively implementing a treaty that the U.S. Senate, which must approve treaties, did not approve. On Day One, George W. Bush should countermand all executive orders issued by Clinton. If, somehow, Clinton issued any executive orders that are consistent with the Constitution and with the platform on which Bush was elected, he can reissue them under his own name. THE BECK ORDERS: The Beck case involved a technician named Harry Beck who discovered that 79% of his Communication Workers of America dues went for improper purposes and wanted his money back. The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 1988 decision, determined that no worker can be required to pay the portion of union dues that goes for activity unrelated to the legitimate representation of workers. Workers must pay only for expenses related to collective bargaining, contract administration, and grievance adjustment; they cannot be forced to finance unions' political activity. In 1992, then-President George Bush issued two orders to enforce workers' rights under the Beck decision. One required unions to account for their political activities and other expenses unrelated to legitimate representation of workers. The other required that contractors post notices about workers' Beck rights and that federal agencies notify workers about those rights. It was during the Clinton years that radical leftists ousted the AFL-CIO's longtime leaders, who had helped Ronald Reagan defeat the Soviet Empire. With the help of Clinton operatives, they stole the election for president of the
[CTRL] Fwd: NM: CLINTOON, THE RAPIST BLAMES ELIAN FOR GORE'S LOSS
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, Dec. 20, 2000 11:55 a.m. EST Clinton: Blame Elian, Not Monica, for Gore's Loss; Jones Case a 'Fraud' President Clinton believes that his Oval Office sexcapades with Monica Lewinsky had less to do with Vice President Al Gore's election loss than the Elian Gonzalez case. In an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes II" broadcast Tuesday, Clinton told Dan Rather, "To say that people would hold him responsible for any personal mistake I made is an insult to the American people. I mean, people just aren't that unfair." To bolster the argument that his Lewinsky fling hadn't hurt Gore, the president added, "There were a lot of surveys along toward the end of the campaign that showed that if I could have run again I would have done fine." Clinton did not identify any surveys by name. But a Gallup poll taken during the final weeks of the campaign contradicts him. Gallup's survey showed that, by a margin of 2 to 1, fewer Americans would vote for Gore if Clinton campaigned with him. Instead, Clinton invoked the Elian Gonzalez case as one likely reason for Gore's loss. "I don't know if the fact that we drew the short straw and had that terrible mess with the Elian Gonzalez case cost him a lot of votes in Florida," Clinton told Rather, "but it could have." "And if it did, I feel very badly about it, because this wasn't anything anybody dreamed up." The Easter weekend gunpoint abduction of the 6-year-old Cuban refugee on Clinton's orders is widely believed to have alienated thousands of voters in Miami's Little Havana community, where the boy lived for most of his stay in America. On the subject of his wife's $8 million book deal, Clinton told Rather that it was up to her to decide whether to write about his philandering, but that if she did, "it will be a good book." RATHER: I want to say this respectfully, Mr. President - surely you don't want her writing about Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and all those things again. Is she likely to do that? CLINTON: You ought to ask her. She can write about whatever she wants. I tell you, I bet it will be a good book. Regardless of what he the first lady may write, Clinton said that Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit, which uncovered a string of Jane Does including several who claimed sexual assault, was a fraud. "All I know is ... the civil lawsuit was a fraud," he told Rather. "They knew that for a long, long time. Everybody did. And a lot of innocent people have already been hurt for purely political reasons." Clinton did not explain why he paid Jones $850,000 to settle the case if her claim was bogus, but suggested that the benefits of his presidency outweighed any personal misconduct. "If I had to do it all over again I still would, because the country is in better shape," he told Rather. http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/12/20/110032 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [news] Saving President Reagan
consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List on ListBot! http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- Part Three of Behind Colin Powell's Legend recounts how the general who had played a role in creating the Iran-contra scandal returns to Washington in 1987 to bail President Reagan out of trouble. For this series -- a critical examination of the new secretary of state-designate -- go to Consortiumnews.com at http://www.consortiumnews.com __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] : Six mag 6+ quakes in four days
-Caveat Lector- Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:17 AM Re: Six mag 6+ quakes in four days As I received it: There have been six separate earthquakes with magnitudes above 6 in the past four days. While this may not be unprecedented, it certainly is some of the most active seismic conditions that I have personally seen... 12/18 01:19 6.4 FIJI ISLANDS REGION 12/19 13:11 6.4 SOUTH OF MARIANA ISLANDS 12/20 11:23 6.3 OFF COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE 12/20 16:49 6.3 D'ENTRECASTEAUX ISLANDS REGION 12/21 01:01 6.4 NEW BRITAIN REGION, P.N.G. 12/21 02:41 6.1 SOLOMON ISLANDS Additionally, seismic activity has increased suddenly in the northern California region close to Mt. Lassen and Mt. Shasta - both volcanos. While conditions have subsided at Popocatepetl for the time being, this somewhat quiet period is not necessarily indicative of an end to the current eruption. Our skill at forecasting/understanding volcanos and earthquakes remains very poor. Cliff's Note: Ray Aquilera, a Christian prophet in California, has had many visions and dreams of a major eruption of Mt. Shasta that would dwarf the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Colombia sliding toward economic and political collapse.
-Caveat Lector- INTERNATIONAL FEATURE Colombia, for many American, is synonymous with violence. Here, police inspect the body of a man killed during an assassination attempt on a prominent Colombian union leader. (Scott Dalton/AP Photo) Sliding Toward Doom Civil, Economic, Political Turbulence Shaking Colombia Analysis By Jack Sweeney Special to ABCNEWS.com Dec. 15 - Colombia, one of the world's most violent nations, is rapidly sliding toward economic and political collapse. Peace talks between the government of President Andres Pastrana and the country's largest guerrilla organization, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), made no progress. In November, the guerrillas suspended talks indefinitely. Meanwhile, civil strife is intensifying. By year's end it is estimated more than 30,000 criminal homicides and political killings and more than 3,000 kidnappings will be reported in Colombia. Massacres by right-wing paramilitary groups have also increased significantly. A Worsening Conflict Increasingly, the conflict's geography is changing. Violence between Marxist rebels and right-wing paramilitary groups is spreading from Colombia's rural areas into urban and economic centers. Guerrillas are waging increasingly economic warfare against individual and corporate targets. Marxist guerrillas are striking energy targets in an apparent effort to cripple the economy. Rebels have destroyed more than 370 electricity transmission towers in the last 18 months. Since January, the oil pipeline between Cano Limon and Covenas has been dynamited 90 times. Increasingly, the FARC and the National Liberation Army (ELN) are attacking foreign companies' assets in a bid to drive foreign investment out of the country. In Bogotá, Pastrana's government is divided and increasingly unpopular. Pastrana was elected in 1998 with a mandate to pursue a peace agreement with the FARC and ELN and a pledge to revive an economy battered by the global decline in oil demand. Since Pastrana was elected, however, the conflict has intensified, and the economy has suffered its worst recession in 70 years. Unemployment has reached 21 percent, the highest level in more than a century. Government vs. Military vs. Rebels Complicating matters, a deep rift has opened up between the Pastrana government and the armed forces, for reasons that include the peace talks and concessions the Pastrana government has made to the FARC. The senior military command structure remains loyal to Pastrana, but discontent runs high among lower-grade officers and senior career noncommissioned officers. In 1999, the military's senior commanders barely averted a coup attempt by junior officers. Meanwhile, Colombia's Marxist rebel organizations and right-wing paramilitary groups are increasing their forces and expanding their presence throughout the country. The FARC reportedly has between 14,000 and 20,000 armed fighters scattered throughout the country. According to Colombian military sources, the FARC also has about 36,000 civilian militias throughout Colombia providing crucial support in the area of logistics; supply; intelligence gathering; and financial, political and legal assistance. In the next three to five years, the FARC expects to have at least 32,000 armed fighters throughout Colombia, including 15,000 in the north, west and east, and 17,000 in the south. Splitting into More Wars The line of division between the FARC's main forces is the Eastern Cordillera mountain range. By increasing forces particularly in the north, west and east, the rebels are moving to divide the country and wage two distinct wars. In Colombia's largely undeveloped southern provinces, the FARC plans to defend its jungle domain, where about two-thirds of Colombia's coca is grown, from incursions by the Colombian army and police. In the north, the FARC will conduct a classic guerrilla war, attacking military and economic targets and seeking to wear down the government and sap the morale of Colombian society. The FARC's military strategy calls for controlling key cities, towns and roads along the Eastern Cordillera. This strategy will intensify the conflict in Colombia's developed areas. Already, the ELN concentrates its operations in the north, east and west. The ELN is estimated to have between 4,000 and 7,000 armed fighters mainly in northern and eastern Colombia. More Combatants Too The growth of guerrilla groups is being met by the even faster growth of paramilitary forces, most important the United Self-Defenses of Colombia (AUC), an umbrella group of seven private paramilitary groups funded by private landowners and drug traffickers. The size of the AUC's forces is estimated at more than 8,000 as of mid-2000, according to the Colombian Defense Ministry. However, AUC leader Carlos Castano claims he has 11,000 armed fighters. The AUC and other paramilitary groups currently operate in about
