[CTRL] NYT: Swindle Is Reported to Use the Name of Roger Clinton
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/10/politics/10ROGE.html?pagewanted=print March 10, 2001 Swindle Is Reported to Use the Name of Roger Clinton By NEIL A. LEWIS ASHINGTON, March 9 ó Federal prosecutors are investigating complaints from several people who say they were swindled by two Arkansas businessman who claimed they were partners with Roger Clinton, the former president's half- brother, and could deliver pardons and business deals, law enforcement officials and lawyers said today. One Texas man, Guy H. Lincecum, said he and his mother paid $235,000 to the Arkansas businessmen, Dickey Morton and George Locke, for a pardon for his brother but never received one. The checks from Mr. Lincecum and his mother, Alberta, were deposited in the Arkansas account of a company called C.L.M. Mr. Lincecum said he was told by Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton that the company's initials stood for Clinton, Locke and Morton. Roger Clinton said through a spokeswoman today that though he knew Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton, he never heard of C.L.M. and had never authorized either man to use his name in any way. In fact, all those who said they dealt with Mr. Morton and Mr. Locke said that while they believed their assertions that Mr. Clinton was their partner, they never saw nor spoke to Mr. Clinton. In addition to the Lincecums, three other people said in interviews that they were approached by Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton and invited to invest in business ventures with the lure that they were partners with Roger Clinton and that the association would guarantee success. Federal investigators are trying to determine whether Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton were using Roger Clinton's name without his permission to swindle people. The only name on the Arkansas incorporation papers of C.L.M. is that of Mr. Morton. All four parties who met with Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton said the pair acted strangely when they asked to meet Mr. Clinton. Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton did not return telephone calls to their homes. Reed Harrod, Mr. Morton's lawyer, did not return calls to his office in Hamburg, Ark. Roger Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton's two brothers have been embroiled in controversy over their efforts to obtain presidential pardons for friends and clients. But investigators have found evidence to suggest that in the cases involving Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton, Roger Clinton may have had his name used unknowingly. One businessman, R. V. Wilson of Mississippi, recounted in an interview how his requests to meet Roger Clinton were never fulfilled. He said that when he went to Little Rock to discuss business with Mr. Morton and Mr. Locke in June 1999, they repeatedly promised that Roger Clinton was about to come by and introduce himself. But each time, he said, they made some excuse as to why he did not appear. Mr. Wilson said he met with Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton in a Little Rock hotel to discuss importing building materials from China. He said that when he asked where Roger Clinton was, "they told me he was playing golf right now in Hope," a town about two hours away. Mr. Wilson said the pair seemed to be talking to Roger Clinton on a cell phone, though they never handed it to him. He said he spent the night in Little Rock only to be told that evening that Roger Clinton was too intoxicated to drive. The next day he was told that Mr. Clinton was back on the golf course. He left without investing. He was the only one of the four parties who did not give the pair money. Mr. Lincecum's lawyer, Edward W. Hayes of New York, said his client had paid Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton $235,000 to obtain a pardon for his brother, Garland H. Lincecum, who is serving time in Texas for fraud. Robert S. Bronson of Queens, a Lincecum family friend, gave this account on their behalf. He said Guy Lincecum met with Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton in Little Rock beginning in 1998, turning over two checks: a $100,000 cashier's check from his mother and a check on his own pension account that was paid into the account of C.L.M., a company incorporated in Arkansas. The account was at the First National Bank of Crossett, Ark. Mr. Bronson produced copies of the canceled checks. "When Guy asked them when he would get the pardon for his brother, these two guys pick up a book and look through it and say `I think Clinton will do it in the third quarter,' " Mr. Bronson said. Mr. Bronson said Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton used Roger Clinton's name freely. Mr. Hayes, the Lincecums' lawyer, confirmed the account but said he could not comment further because federal prosecutors in New York had asked him not to say more. The other two businessmen who felt they were swindled in the building materials deal asked that their names not be used, but similarly said that when they had asked to meet with Roger Clinton, their requests were always met with excuses. One said Mr. Locke and Mr. Morton had showed him a photo of them with Roger Clinton. Roger Clinton has said that he asked his
[CTRL] NR: Questions for Barak
-Caveat Lector- Questions for Barak Congress wants information from the outgoing Israeli prime minister. National Review Online March 6, 2001 7:00 p.m. By ByronYork House Government Reform Committee investigators will soon send a list of written questions to outgoing Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak as part of their expanding investigation into the presidential pardon scandal, according to congressional sources. Committee lawyers want to learn how and how many times Barak appealed to President Bill Clinton on behalf of fugitive tax-evader Marc Rich. Appearing before the committee last week, three top Clinton administration officials former White House chief of staff John Podesta, former White House counsel Beth Nolan, and Clinton confidant Bruce Lindsey testified that a call from Barak to Clinton on the afternoon of January 19 was a key factor in Clinton's decision to pardon Rich. "While the bulk of that call concerned the situation in the Middle East," Podesta testified, "Prime Minister Barak raised the Rich matter at the end and asked the president once again to consider the Rich pardon." All three witnesses said that before Barak's call, they believed Clinton would not pardon Rich. After Barak's call, they said, Clinton appeared to change his mind. "It certainly seemed that he [Clinton] was not going to grant it [the pardon], and then that Mr. Barak's phone call had been significant," Nolan testified. Podesta, Nolan, and Lindsey also said Barak's call on the 19th was not the first time the Israeli prime minister discussed the Rich case with the president. "I'm certain that it came up prior to January 19," John Podesta testified. "I think it may have been three times that he [Barak] raised it." Lindsey told the committee that Clinton said Barak's call was "the third time at least that Barak had mentioned it to him." "I thought he said fourth," Nolan added. Their testimony conflicts with a report Sunday in the Jerusalem Post, which said Barak maintains he brought the Rich case up with Clinton just once. "The prime minister made one call and the matter was only raised at the end of the phone call," the Post quoted a source inside the prime minister's office. "It is obvious that a marginal telephone mention did not play a deciding role in the granting of the pardon. Even if it is convenient to say so, it is untrue." In addition, there is evidence to suggest that whatever Barak said to Clinton on the 19th, the president had already made up his mind to pardon Rich. Three weeks ago, investigators released a January 10, 2001 e-mail from a close associate of Rich's to Jack Quinn, the former White House counsel who represented Rich in the pardon matter. The e-mail said Clinton had called top Democratic fundraiser Beth Dozoretz and discussed the Rich case with her. Clinton, according to the e-mail, "wants to do it [grant the pardon] and is doing all possible to turn around the WH counsels." That leaves investigators with several questions. Did Clinton and Barak speak about Rich on several occasions, as Clinton contends, or just once, as Barak apparently believes? If they spoke just one time, why would Clinton tell his top aides that he and the prime minister had discussed the matter at least three, and perhaps four, times? Finally, and most importantly, if the two men spoke about Rich just once, on the 19th, and Clinton had made up his mind well before then at least by January 10, the date of the e-mail why did Clinton's top aides testify that Barak's call had been so important to the pardon decision? Investigators believe Barak can help them begin to answer those and other questions. Late Tuesday afternoon, committee chairman Dan Burton okayed the proposal to contact Barak, who leaves office Wednesday. Committee lawyers plan to send written questions to Barak within the next few days. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] NM: Pardongater Dozoretz Fund Raising for Andrew Cuomo?
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Tuesday, March 6, 2001 12:40 p.m. EST Pardongater Dozoretz Fund Raising for Andrew Cuomo? If what Chicago Sun-Times columnist Michael Sneed reports Tuesday is true, stonewalling congressional Pardongate probers hasn't put a crimp in Clinton fund-raiser Beth Dozoretz's style. "Word is Beth Dozoretz, Denise Rich's pal and frequent White House visitor, was phoning CEOs last week drumming up cash for Andrew Cuomo's run for governor ...," Sneed reveals without elaboration. If indeed the longtime Clinton fund-raiser has jumped on Cuomo's bandwagon, it could signal that the Clintons themselves will eventually wind up in his corner as well. That would no doubt disappoint more than a few of the Clintons' African-American supporters, who hoped to see fellow Democrat, state Comptroller Carl McCall, become New York's first black governor. Last week McCall told WABC radio's Steve Malzberg that he expected Democratic leaders to return the loyalty of the party's most reliable constituency by backing him against Cuomo. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Rabbi Describes Hillary Pardons as 'Quid Pro Quo'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/09/2001 4:12:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A politically connected Rabbi who did business for years with fugitive billionaire Marc Rich says ex-President Clinton's pardons of four Hasidic leaders in New York were a reward for votes for Hillary Clinton in last year's Senate race. Isn't it wonderful that Hillary regularly consults Rabbi Greenwald and tells him of all the plans she and her husband have made. One would think that he, being such a righteous man, would have warned her. Being politically connected, this man would have been aware of all possible problems. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] AP: List of pardon seekers reads like the cream of who's who
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/09/2001 4:13:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List of pardon seekers reads like the cream of who's who Friday, March 9, 2001 And this is wrong. I still hold that there should be no such thing as presidential pardons. We don't need presidents with the ability to pardon away the investigations that would send them to jail for treason--the very thing that George Bush the Elder did. Governors should have pardon ability, but presidents should not. I had forgotten about Nixon pardoning Jimmy Hoffa. We just don't need presidents to be able to do that. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another Fatal Raid
-Caveat Lector- This is not a forfeiture case, but it has related search seizure issues Government to unveil new details of fatal ATF raid CATHY FRYE ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE The federal government has agreed to release a more detailed account of the events leading to an Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms Bureau raid that left a man dead in his bedroom. Carl Wilson, 60, was killed in a shootout with federal authorities when they arrived before dawn on Jan. 12 at his rural Faulkner County home. They were searching for an old Winchester rifle. The documents explaining why the ATF wanted the gun have remained sealed in federal court. The Democrat-Gazette filed a motion Feb. 15, asking that the case file be made public. The government initially objected to the newspaper's request. But at a hearing before U.S. Magistrate J. Thomas Ray on Friday, prosecutors agreed to unseal the documents. However, they want to redact, or "black out," portions of the file beforehand, saying witnesses and informants need to be protected. The judge's ruling, expected next week, will likely challenge the constitutionality of the way in which search-and-seizure warrants are handled in the Eastern District of Arkansas. It could eliminate the automatic sealing of all warrants and accompanying documents, and instead require a specific request from prosecutors to keep the paperwork from public view. At Friday's hearing, attorneys haggled not only over the Wilson case but also the First Amendment versus search warrants -- namely, how much information should remain secret and why. "We are an open society," said lawyer Jess Askew, who is representing the Democrat-Gazette. "As Justice [Warren] Burger has said, 'People in an open society do not demand infallibility from their institutions, but it is difficult for them to accept what they are prohibited from observing.'" U.S. prosecutor Michael Johnson, citing concerns about the names of witnesses that appear in some of the sealed documents, countered the newspaper's argument: "The First Amendment is not the sole societal interest at stake here." The current debate over the secretive manner in which search warrants are obtained and filed in court emerged from what happened in the early morning darkness when ATF agents carried out a surprise raid at Wilson's home. They were looking for a .30-.30 Winchester rifle, model 94, serial number NRA 8315. Wilson's widow, Tammy, wants to know why her husband was being investigated. And how, she asks, did the raid turn deadly? Much to her anger, the answers have remained secret. Until Friday, the only items that had been unsealed were the search warrant and an inventory of what was seized at the Wilson home. Both of those documents had been given to the family at the time of the raid. Friday, the court unsealed two more documents -- the Jan. 10 application for the search warrant and an exhibit, which was an aerial photograph of Wilson's isolated home. Still sealed, however, is the probable-cause affidavit, which would explain what kind of investigation the ATF was conducting and why a no-knock raid was necessary. No-knock raids allow officers to enter a home without announcing themselves. The Wilson raid was to occur "in the daytime," according to the warrant. Federal law defines "daytime" as between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. ATF agents raided Wilson's home at 6:30 a.m. Sunrise that day was around 7:15 a.m. In documents filed with the court, the Democrat-Gazette argues: "A man was shot and killed in his own bedroom by state and federal authorities with a federal search warrant, and the press wants to know why the authorities were there. The government seeks to conceal this information. In doing so, the government seeks to avoid accounting to the people for its conduct in this most unfortunate episode. "By failing to account, the government engenders dark suspicions about its conduct." In its initial response to the newspaper's motion, the government argued that unsealing the case file would compromise confidential information related to the investigation and make public the names of witnesses involved in the ATF investigation. They also cited an ongoing investigation into the shootout by state police, arguing that this unfinished inquiry should be grounds for keeping the documents sealed. The judge said Friday, however, that the state police investigation has no bearing on whether the case file should be made public. Although prosecutors are withdrawing their objections to unseal the file, they want the names of witnesses and any information that would identify those witnesses blacked out before the documents are made public. The importance of these witnesses is unclear. Authorities have said their investigation of Wilson ended with his death and that no one else will be charged in the case. Prosecutors' reasons for requesting that portions of the documents be
[CTRL] The Skeleton in George Will's Closet
-Caveat Lector- keleton is rattling in George Will's closet. From: (Mark Dawkins) Media Beat March 8, 2001 Triumph of (George) Will: When Media Might Makes Right By Norman Solomon A skeleton is rattling in George Will's closet. But it's difficult to hear above the steady applause from his elite boosters inside the media business. Widely viewed as one of the nation's most influential journalists, Will churns out syndicated columns that appear in hundreds of daily papers. He also writes for Newsweek. And he's a regular on ABC's "This Week." He is definitely outspoken -- but don't expect him to speak out about the fact that Juanita Yvette Lozano now faces up to 15 years in prison. "A woman who worked for a media company that produced ads for President George W. Bush's campaign was indicted for secretly mailing a videotape of Bush practicing for a debate to Vice President Al Gore's campaign," an Associated Press story explained the other day. Accompanying the 60-minute video were about 120 pages of the Bush team's confidential material for debate preparation. Ordinarily, such a transgression might cause Will to express his law-and-order zeal in no uncertain terms. But it's understandable that he isn't eager to weigh in when the subject is theft of debate prep documents. The circumstances of the incident last fall were far less egregious than what happened -- with Will's active participation -- in 1980. Six months ago, when Gore campaign adviser Tom Downey received a package containing the Bush campaign material prior to the first debate, he immediately turned it over to the FBI. In sharp contrast, 20 years earlier, top operatives in Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign pored through Jimmy Carter's lengthy briefing book swiped from the White House. Back then, behind the scenes, Will was part of the effort to make the most of the illegally obtained papers. Will looked at the Carter briefing materials and then helped coach Reagan for a crucial debate with Carter. Promptly after the debate, Will went on "Nightline" to praise Reagan for a "thoroughbred performance." Viewers had no way to know of Will's involvement in prepping Reagan for the debate. For years, Will was able to cover up the deception. But in mid-1983, the "Debategate" story finally broke, and he took some flak. At first, Newsweek merely mentioned in passing that Will had been shown the stolen briefing book "and thought nothing of it." A week later, devoting several sentences to the intrigue of its star columnist, the magazine reported that he "saw the Carter materials" and later helped to prepare Reagan "for his confrontation with Carter. Then, in his role as television commentator, Will gave Reagan a favorable review for his performance -- without explaining that he had personally taken part in the event." During the summer of 1983, various media pillars rumbled with disapproval. As Newsweek observed, "some of Will's fellow journalists have heatedly criticized his partisan role. Jack Nelson, Washington bureau chief for the Los Angeles Times, called it 'outrageous.'" The New Republic declared Will to be "the one person who has been most embarrassed by Debategate" and faulted him for two aspects of his behavior: "Appearing on ABC's 'Nightline' the night of the debate, Mr. Will was one of the commentators who awarded the 'victory' to Mr. Reagan; he posed as a referee without ever making it clear that he had been one of the seconds." In addition, the columnist "knew about the purloined briefing books" but kept the knowledge to himself. "Mr. Will said nothing about this on 'Nightline'; nor did he write about it." Perhaps a bit taken aback by the uproar, Will devoted a Washington Post column to his own defense. In essence, Time magazine noted, "Will said he was glad he had done what he had done, but would not do it again." The controversy blew over. And in retrospect, Will's prominence in Debategate probably helped rather than hurt his career. The incident certified that he was a power player at the highest reaches of presidential politics. Nearly three years after his stealth role in the Carter-Reagan debates came to light, a front-page Los Angeles Times profile called Will "the pre-eminent American political commentator." When the story briefly touched on Debategate and quoted Will, the tone was far from apologetic: "I simply reject the idea that I misled anyone. It wasn't a state secret who I was for." But George Will knew that those Carter briefing papers were stolen. He made use of them. And he kept mum for as long as he could. On the day after Lozano's indictment, I requested a statement from Will about the criminal charges against her -- or about his own role in the Carter briefing-book
Re: [CTRL] Listen to the Troops
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/10/2001 1:07:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, the low morale, recruiting and retention shortfalls, and readiness deficits that are Clinton's legacy of loathing to our armed forces are going to be much more difficult to rectify than many people suspect. President Bush, in asking Congress for $310.5 billion for defense in fiscal year 2002, a "reasonable" 4 percent increase over this year's allocation, has already acknowledged that it's going to take more than throwing money at the problems to repair eight years of neglect. This stuff is just stupid. Any GI who runs around blaming Clinton for his low morale and recruiting and retention shortfalls just hasn't been in the military long enough or his IQ is so low, he won't be much of an asset if this nation ever gets into trouble. My husband is retired military, I worked for them and my children were both military brats right through heading for college. We retired prior to Clinton, and the morale was lower then than it is now. The recruiting and retention shortfalls began way back then and were and are caused by the weird parallel logic that our military leaders and congress seem to have been using ever since the GI bill did a good turn for the military members. They retaliated by giving all the available funds to Boeing and a few other corporations for weapons development. Clinton at least got excused from the military; he didn't join the multi-million-dollar hotrod club that lets a select group fly jets on weekends, and then go awol from even that for over a year. Since you're listening to the troops, take the above as my husband's comment, since I'm just quoting him. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Rabbi Describes Hillary Pardons as 'Quid Pro Quo'
-Caveat Lector- Well Prudy, right out of Daniel - Clinton was the man with the feet of clay, and once on a TV show which I participated by telephone (later they wanted me on the panel, would you believe that - ) this jewish gentleman who was well versed in law and the Talmud reminded me of the man with the feet of clay. At the time, would you believe I was defending Clinton for I stuck with that guy until he just plain lied and I began to see he was just a mirage - attempting to stand in JFK limelight as a clone? It was the finger in our faces where he lied that turned me off - for my husband used to do that when he gave me a lecture. So I truly believe Clinton was set up - he was blackmailed and remember Papa Bush stated without whining, that this Mossad/Isralie thing - they blackmailed him too? Have you really heard Bush condemn Clinton - no he wants to move on, and Trent Lott with a name like that, he and Mrs. Lott should not want to look back - if there is a criminal case it is up to New York to pursue same - Why did the Mossad get away with tapping Clinton's telephone through Monica? Strange Linda Tripp, and Monica, and Mark Furhrman have this Goldberg as an agent - agent for whom and what? Note now Clinton is alleged to have told homosexual jokes and Barney Franks turns on him? Clinton said "nigger" and like Byrd using same -- Byrd was old Klansman while Clinton worshipped the ground upon which Jesse Jackson and his "followers" walked for Hill and Bill got the Jewish vote and the black vote - and then Gore? Gore did not get the Jewish vote - Joe Liebrman did - for Holy Joe was to be President for this is the big take over and Gore could not deliver...Clinton must be killed off now figurative and literally - people must be taught to hate him and soon Morris Dees or ADL will put him on a hate list while Hilliary distances herself further and further away from him - people so eager now to go for the jugular? Clinton was doing okay until little Monica - he would not blow the hell out of the Persian Gulf but chose maybe - well put it this way, Remember the USS Liberty and the USS Cole and maybe this great ship Greenville was attacked by a Japanese Doomsday Cult or who and what in disguise? Fee of Clay - Clinton got away with this stuff for so long for he was "protected" and NWO who made this man piece by piece along with Ehud Barak aka Brug, this Blair - these leaders all sang out of same songbook? The King is dead - Long Live the KingCamelot is Dead - Long live this bunch of parasites who believe they have replaced it? Joe Lieberman is now a gentleman in waiting - no doubt in my mind he would have been president within a year if Gore had been elected for all things are now ready for the takeover - the sell-out - big bucks controlled by a handful of people who are not payng their taxes - funny they usually get into the hotel business like thee Bilderbergers - the building trades also come with demolition crews and this is what is happening to America. Everying decent in this country is being destroyed and this nation of sheep sit back and watch for its show time - they cannot now tell reality from fantasy, running around half doped up - now in movies bang, dead man walks away but at our schools, bang and kids do not get back up - If Clinton writes a book - he better be careful of who and what the publisher is for the Mafia this Jewish Mafia took over the 5 major publishing houses in 1970 period - they control the news media and they make or break - they think Holy Joe Lieberman, holder of duel citizenship which means duel loyalties - somehow escapes criticismhe prepares to run for President.and big bucks will be behind him but this Marc Rich cut down Clinton good. For Clinton to be surrounded with such loyalty - he gets weaker every day - if Clinton is to be punished unofficially, it would seem censorship by the press would suffice - as the Senate and House censor at times - old Union tactics, the shunning .secret society stuff. Clinton and Gore were so spaced out these past 8 years they do not know what hit them - both are lucky to still be alive. Or was murder of JFK, RFK, MLK, shooting of Wallace and Reagan, just a bad dream? Want your country back - get that Hollywood scum out that have been pushing sodomy and Rosie O'Donnell ( now she sings songs from the Flintstones but has a broken hand? Could not stand to watch this show long enough to find out how this happened - but I kept thinking of this 10th Psalm which Catholics took out of their psalms - "break thou the arm of the wicked man (or woman?? equal rights). So such is life in As the Stomach Churns or Turns.note neither political party is any good now - notice how carefully each have been dissection for they are paving the way for the Jewish Messiah who will sit under the Big Dome in Oval Office? For it is all in the Master Plan for Murder keyed to the stars and he Testaments?
[CTRL] Land protections face rollback
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Land protections face rollback By Mike Soraghan Denver Post Washington Bureau Mar. 9, 2001 - WASHINGTON - Interior Secretary Gale Norton said she will roll back some of the land protections at Western monuments created by President Clinton if the sites' neighbors want changes. Norton said she'll work work with communities around the monuments, which have complained that they would like more mining, grazing and off-road uses now off-limits. "We're doing things in reverse - we're trying to resolve the problems after the monuments were created," Norton said Thursday. "We try to tailor things to existing uses and to what makes sense for the local community." Her stance is likely to bolster her standing with conservatives, coming out the same day she announced that a mining industry lobbyist will be her top deputy and just minutes after taking a slap at her critics in the environmental community, accusing them in a speech of campaigning against her nomination to "fill their fund-raising coffers." Her comments Thursday were the fullest explanation she has given of what she plans to do about the monuments, and a reverse of what has been reported in some national newspapers. Norton's monument plan parallels the slow, cautious approach taken by other Republicans left seething by Clinton's drive for a lands legacy but mindful that it was popular with the public. But environmentalists accuse her of mounting a "backdoor" campaign to reverse the protections Clinton imposed. "I think the Bush administration recognizes their public lands agenda is not popular," said Melanie Griffin of the Sierra Club. "I think they'll be trying to pursue it quietly." Clinton designated 21 monuments, many in his last year, imposing protections on millions of acres he said were threatened by development, tourism or industry. Westerners howled about the loss of access to the land. Among those monuments was Canyons of the Ancients, 164,000 acres of mesas, canyons and ancient Indian ruins in southwestern Colorado near Mesa Verde National Park. Norton, formerly Colorado's attorney general, has criticized the way Clinton created the monuments, saying he did not consult with the Westerners affected by the new restrictions on the land. But she has shied away from a frontal assault on Clinton's "lands legacy," saying she hasn't heard direct calls for repealing the monuments. House Resources Committee Chairman Jim Hansen, the Utah Republican who has been the leading critic of the monuments, is working on a similar plan. Hansen acknowledges that "no one is going to see a wholesale rolling back of these monuments," but he has solicited ideas from lawmakers about how Congress could change them. Conservatives welcomed the plan, calling it a return to sanity. "If Norton's talking about restoring the uses that were there before the monument designations, that's good news," said Mike Hardiman, lobbyist for the American Land Rights Association, a propertyrights group. "You're looking at restoring the recreational access." At Colorado's only new monument, so many uses already are allowed that any changes would negate everything Clinton did, said one of the environmentalists who lobbied to create it. "I don't know how you could roll back any of the protections and not just unravel the whole monument," said Jeff Widen of the Colorado Environmental Coalition, who lobbied for the monument near Cortez. It's not entirely clear what authority Norton would have to alter the monuments. Some say the authority is spelled out in the Antiquities Act of 1906, the law Clinton used to declare the monuments. Some think President Bush could just reverse them, while other say it would take a lawsuit. What is clear is that the management plans, the detailed rule books of what is and isn't allowed in the monuments, have not yet been written. The employees who will be writing them now work for Norton, not Clinton's interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to
[CTRL] Eurofile: EU suppression of criticism smacks of fascism
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000157380504876rtmo=3SSmwx BMatmo=rrrqpg=/et/01/3/10/wfile10.html Eurofile: EU suppression of criticism smacks of fascism By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard THE European Court of Justice changed the political climate profoundly this week by ruling that the European Union can suppress criticism to protect its reputation. Keith Vaz, the Europe minister, dismissed the matter as a minor staff case involving Bernard Connolly, the British whistleblower, with no implications for ordinary EU citizens. But Mr Vaz mixes up two separate cases. One is a staff case, the other is a free speech case going far beyond the issue of whether Connolly broke his contract at the European Commission by writing The Rotten Heart of Europe. The court ruled that the Commission could restrict criticism that damaged "the institution's image and reputation", and that it could do so by resorting to a legal device used by fascist governments to suppress dissent in the 1920s and 1930s: "the protection of the rights of others". This ECJ ruling defies half a century of case law by Europe's other court, the non-EU Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, as well as resurrecting the ancient offence of "seditious libel" banned by the House of Lords. The Human Rights Court has ruled repeatedly that governing bodies may not restrict criticism in such a way. Specifically, the term "protection of the rights of others" does not apply to public bodies. Last week's ruling shows that the ECJ (despite paying lip-service) does not consider itself bound by the European Convention on Human Rights, drafted by British lawyers after the Second World War to safeguard liberty in Europe. This is an extremely serious development because the EU's new Charter of Fundamental Rights extends the ECJ's competence into the area of civil liberties, transforming it from a commercial court dealing with single market issues to a full-fledged supreme court. The ECJ has already begun referring to the charter in its rulings, demolishing the British government's pretence that the document has no more legal status than "the Beano". The door could be soon be open for the ECJ to start ruling on free speech cases involving ordinary EU citizens, or indeed involving Euro- sceptic newspapers. We now have two rival sets of European rights law, overseen by rival courts with very different views of civil liberty: the ECJ and the charter on one side, set against the Human Rights Court and the convention on the other. The battle is just beginning. -- Best Wishes We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. -John Stuart Mill A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Remember Pearl Harbor?
-Caveat Lector- Japanese Spy Ship or maybe Doomsday Cult having bit of fun? Why are we permitting these bastards to tear down our Navy - remember, KGB infiltrated our defenses and Navy - ie, Walker spies where they formed a KKK (with all the neo nazi junk) but it took the work of 5 Golden Dragons made in USA to bring down that bunch - So remember they have Japanese Masons and we have Bnai Brith and something just isn't "kosher" about this stuff - why do they persecute the Navy - remember the USS Arizona and the USS Liberty and the USS Cole.this was no accident for the odds of this being an accident, sure wish I had the odds? Saba Mail message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Mar 10, 2001, 9:27am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: JAPANESE SPY SHIP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, Mar 10, 2001, 2:33am Subject: JAPANESE SPY SHIP To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jack Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: JAPANESE SPY SHIP INTELLIGENCNE OFFERS AND ANALYSTS Have you been wondering why the Japanese 'fishing' vessel was in the US submarine training area? Have you wondered what the Japanese were actually 'fishing' for and what they had in the way of equipment inside and outside the Ehime Maru's hull? Robert D. Morningstar has written a piece on just these questions and what he has arrived at may change some opinions among those who would hang the Captain of the USS Greenville before the investigation is complete. Read this here: - - - - - - - - - WHO HIT WHO. . .? THE MYSTERIES OF THE EHIME MARU The primary question for investigators is "What was the Ehime Maru, one of the world's most advanced (and 'stealthy") high tech fishing vessels, doing in a U.S. military operations area warning zone? - - - - - - - - - BEST VIEWED ON THE EXPLORER BROWSER http://www.thepalmerpress.com/ussgreenville_EXP.html Professionally, JACK MORRIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SO HERE IS PEARL OF GREAT PRICE STORY
-Caveat Lector- SORRY - had web problems and came up jarbled, etc. Here is item which I wanted to reproduce for you re the great ship now under fire by the Japanese - figuratively and literally. Saba Sent by ChrisAire: WHO HIT WHO. . .? THE MYSTERIES OF THE EHIME MARU Robert D. Morningstar Morningstar Aerospace The primary question for investigators is "What was the Ehime Maru, one of the world's most advanced (and 'stealthy") high tech fishing vessels, doing in a U.S. military operations area warning zone? NOTE: The author completed additional research and suggests readers visit an ATTACHED PAGE of this assessment for his findings. Many Questions To Be Answered The tragic events which occurred off Hawaii on February 9th, 2001, involving a collision between the attack submarine, U.S.S. Greenville, and a Japanese fishing vessel, the Ehime Maru, are a signal event in U.S.-Japanese relations. Although the media has already leaped to a foregone conclusion of criminal negligence on the part of the captain, crew and passengers of the U.S.S. Greenville, many questions remain regarding the sinking of the Ehime Maru. The primary question for this investigator is "What was the Ehime Maru, one of the world's most advanced (and 'stealthy") high tech fishing vessels, doing in a U.S. military operations area warning zone bearing down at top speed on a submerged U.S. Navy attack sub?" Piranha Attack By Media The piranha-like attack of the press and news media on the captain, Commander Scott Waddle, the crew of the U.S.S. Greenville, and a group of civilians aboard the sub, members of the U.S.S. Missouri Memorial Association, was so vicious, slanted and one-sided that I felt compelled to communicate my concerns about fairness and due process to the National Transportation Board. I brought to the attention of the NTSB important information regarding the Ehime Maru. - Original Message - From: Robert D Morningstar To: (name withheld) @ntsb gov Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Submarine-Fishing Boat Collision Dear Sir: I'm writing in regard to the recent accident which occurred off Hawaii recently and which is the subject of a current NTSB investigation. I really hate it when the Navy makes a captain swing in the wind to save face in international politics. On behalf of Commander Waddle getting a "fair shake", I would like to point out that the Japanese government often disguises spying operations and RD operations as "fishing explorations" or student projects. The development of stealth technology at sea is not unheard of in our day and age. The fishing vessel could very easily have been "stalking" the submarine. Was it really correct for the Japanese fishing vessel, an advanced oceanic laboratory, to be operating in a U.S. Navy military operations area warning zone? However, the major point I am going to make is in regard to the type of propeller on the fishing vessel. If this propeller was milled using an advanced propeller milling technology, which our country shared with the Japanese in the 1980's, it is possible that the frequency produced by such a propeller could be stealthily quiet. Furthermore, if its frequency was a harmonic of that of the submarine's screw, its frequency could have been cancelled out by the frequency of the submarine's propeller resonating through the sea at harmonic levels. It is possible that the Japanese were testing an undersea noise-canceling technology similar to those we have in aviation headsets. The sound of the screws of the sub and the fishing vessel could have been made to cancel each other out. Another distinct possibility exists, i.e., that the fishing vessel had turned off its engines to listen for the submarine (or whales) and was in fact tracking it but not expecting it to breach suddenly through the surface as it did. (Author's note: this can now be ruled out as it is known that the Ehime Maru was moving at nearly top speed when she struck the submarine.) All these avenues should be investigated before condemning the captain of the USS Greenville, Commander Scott Waddle. Sincerely, Robert Morningstar P.S. During the 1980's, we developed and shared an advanced CAD/CAM propeller milling technology with Japan which made our submarines super-quiet and which could not be easily heard by the Russians. Law prohibited its transfer to Eastern Block nations. The Russian's propellers were loud, clunky things, which we could hear from the East Coast coming through Gibraltar easily. In 1987, Toshiba Corporation illegally transferred this technology to USSR by way of a Norwegian intermediary. Since then I have avoided doing any business with or using Toshiba products, computers or otherwise." Friends And Patriots After posting a copy to a friend in Louisville, Kentucky, I was surprised to receive his response requesting permission to post the letter more widely. I agreed and posted the letter to AFPN (American Friends and Patriots
[CTRL] To Harass and Terrorize
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] To Harass and Terrorize by Jef Allen In its lead story in the Thursday March 8, 2001, edition of the Forsyth County News, the Georgia newspaper (Motto: Your "Hometown Paper" Since 1908), ran an article under the headline: "Drug dogs are familiar sight on school campuses." Forsyth County is a rural bedroom community in the northern suburbs of Atlanta, Georgia. To quote the article, "Deputies are increasingly using drug-sniffing dogs in searches of lockers and cars at Forsyth County middle and high schools. The searches are done as a cooperative effort between the county sheriff's office and school system as part of the ongoing war on drugs and in response to heightened fears about school safety. There is no specific reason deputies are appearing more this year on campuses with the dogs, said Capt. Ernie Born, commander of special operations for the sheriff's office. "'We have the resources, so we might as well use them,' Born said Tuesday." The article continues, "In some cases, deputies theorized the dogs were sniffing marijuana smoke in the (automobile) upholstery. Deputies also have walked canines by lockers at a handful of middle schools. No arrests have been made as a result of the searches. Deputy Jody Chapman said the practice is a preventative measure, designed to keep campuses free of drugs, more than to "bust" students while they are in class. "'All it takes is one student to look out a window and it goes around the school we're out there with the dogs. It scares them,' Chapman said." No kidding, Deputy Chapman. Dogs on the leashes of armed agents of the government have a long and colorful history of scaring the crap out of people, from runaway slaves to Jews being herded into boxcars on their way to concentration camps. This article in "Your 'Hometown Paper' Since 1908" captures in a microcosm the rot to our institutions that is being caused by our government's ill-conceived "war on drugs." For starters, we have the local authorities, and the school administrators who accompany them, wandering about the school campus with German Shepherds looking for evidence of criminal activity without probable cause, other than the fact that the officers "know" that some of these kids are using drugs. Second, we have the officers promoting the theory that "the dogs were sniffing marijuana smoke in the (automobile) upholstery" of some of the cars in the parking lot. No physical evidence necessary, thank you very much. By the officer's own admission, there is "no specific reason" for the activity that they are engaged in, they simply "have the resources, so we might as well use them." There is something morally repugnant when the police feel justified in scaring middle and high school kids with dogs because they "have the resources." Of course, the officers in question certainly feel justified in their activity. They are theoretically preventing crimes from taking place on our public school grounds. You can hear the argument now: If you aren't guilty, you have nothing to be afraid of. When you extend this argument logically, however, it falls apart in tatters. If the officers are justified in their actions with no evidence of a crime being committed, where does it stop? Should we start searching every car on the street or every individual's home simply because we are certain that somebody, somewhere is breaking the law, and besides, "we have the resources"? Why not post checkpoints with a rising gate and a guard shack at all county borders where we can check the citizens' papers and let the dogs sniff for illegal contraband? After all, surely somebody on these highways is breaking the law. The job of law enforcement would be a helluva lot easier if we could just get rid of that pesky Bill of Rights. According to an article in the July 17, 2000, issue of U.S. News and World Report, entitled "The Case of the Missing Cops", Potsdam, Ohio Police Chief Bobby Cheney proposed just that. In an effort to latch onto a share of President Clinton's COPS program funding, Cheney proposed "raising the match (locally provided matching funds required by the federal program) by launching Driving Under the Influence checkpoints, issuing speed citations, and making the village eligible for asset forfeiture funds through a K-9 unit, which would sniff out drugs on local roads. "It would have been top notch," says Chaney, insisting he was just trying to keep a lid on crime. But residents were not impressed: 80 out of 100 polled opposed fattening the force, agreeing with a Dayton Daily News headline that tagged the chief's grand scheme 'Mad Stop.'" According to the article, "Potsdam, Ohio, (population 250) consists of 100 houses scattered around two principal streets: Main and Cross. There are no stoplights, stores, gas stations, or restaurants. Yet from October to February, this tiny village northwest of Dayton employed 11 police
[CTRL] Lott of Questions
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Ann Coulter (back to story)
March 8, 2001
More facts, fewer liberals
While having dinner recently with John Lott, author of "More Guns, Less Crime," one
of life's enduring debates came up: Are liberals evil or just stupid? I was
surprised to discover that Lott vigorously disputed those of us staking out the evil
position.
Lott couldn't even be fairly described as calling liberals stupid. They just believe
"different facts," as he put it. Facts other than his number-crunching study
analyzing 18 years of crime data from every county in the nation, for example. That
study famously demonstrated that concealed-carry laws reduce certain types of crime.
Lott's results contradicted the prevailing liberal ethos on guns, and liberals are
hopping mad about it.
Consequently, it was kind of a shock to see the hard-nosed economist getting all
gooey-eyed and "We Are the World" sappy when discussing the people who have declared
World War III on him. He adamantly refuses to believe that anyone would knowingly
support a policy that costs lives.
This is where economics and politics clash. As Franklin D. Roosevelt's pal "Uncle
Joe" Stalin summarized the politician's view: "A single death is a tragedy, a
million deaths is a statistic."
Pumping fresh data into the evil-or-stupid debate, the week after our dinner a
liberal weekly published an article on Lott. It was not immediately clear what
prompted Newsweek to write about him. There was no new law, study or sensational
crime in the news. (The school shooting in California came days after the article
was published.)
There was, however, a nice new Republican president. One of the liberal arguments
against Lott's study is that no one should hire him. Not universities and -- just in
case a Republican administration might be interested in hiring an economist who is
not intimidated by liberal censors -- not the Bush administration either.
Consequently, Newsweek ran a timely piece on Lott, stating in a neutral,
nonjudgmental way that he is "vicious," as if it were a bullet point on his resume.
This is another important liberal argument against Lott's research -- the man is
"vicious."
The article also revealed insights only a telepath or psychiatrist could claim to
know, such as Lott's purported "need to attack." It was reminiscent of the FACT
magazine article published during the 1964 presidential campaign that quoted
numerous psychiatrists saying Barry Goldwater was -- in their professional opinion --
nuts.
Commendably, the Newsweek article did not repeat some of the old lies about Lott,
such as that he was funded by the gun industry. It did, however, make up some new
lies, such as that his research on the Florida election was funded by Republicans.
Among the many liberal ripostes to John Lott -- he was funded by gun-nuts or
Republicans, he is "vicious," he should not be able to make a living -- this
argument does not appear: He is wrong. Newsweek quoted a Stanford University law
professor, John Donohue, who has "spent years reviewing Lott's data" saying only:
"What a lot of people worry about is that if it really is the case that the results
aren't good, then he's really peddling a false message."
Wait a second. But if Lott's results are good, then it's gun control advocates who
are peddling a false message. One position or the other is going to cause more
people to die. So which is it? Gee, if only we had someone who had "spent years
reviewing Lott's data." How about Donohue? Why didn't it occur to the Newsweek
reporter to ask Donohue why he was unable to cough up an attack on Lott's research?
It's not as if Donohue is shy about leaping into the political fray. He has raised
objections to law professor Paul Cassell's research on the Miranda warnings.
(Leading Cassell to remark, "I chased my opponents from empirical assertions to
untestable arguments.")
Last year Donohue co-authored the winsome study purporting to link legalized
abortion to reductions in crime. ("Given that homicide rates of black youths are
roughly nine times higher than those of white youths, racial differences in the
fertility effects of abortion are likely to translate into greater homicide
reductions.") He once ran for the Connecticut state senate -- as a Democrat, one
need hardly add.
But the worst Donohue can say about Lott's study, which he's spent "years" studying,
is that "people" worry that if it's wrong, that would be very bad. If Lott is wrong,
why can't Donohue say so, rather than tossing out irrelevant and painfully obvious
epistemological points?
"People" probably worried that if reports of Stalin's systematic starvation of 10
million Ukrainians weren't true, then those who said so were peddling a false
message. (None more so than The New York Times, which whiled away the years of the
Ukrainian famine denying it.)
That's not believing different facts; it's squirting octopus fluid on
Re: [CTRL] [Spy News] Document says CIA overstated Soviet threat ---- What a bunch of crap! - j2
-Caveat Lector- Mario Profaca wrote: Document says CIA overstated Soviet threat http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2001/03/09/national/NUKES10.htm By Jonathan S. Landay INQUIRER WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON - For more than 10 years during the Cold War, U.S. intelligence forecasts greatly exaggerated the pace at which the former Soviet Union would improve its long-range nuclear forces, a newly declassified CIA document indicated today. The summary of a 1989 CIA internal review said every major intelligence assessment from 1974 to 1986 - a period covering at least three presidencies - "substantially" overestimated the Kremlin's plans to modernize and expand its strategic nuclear arsenal. Well DUH How else do you maintain a wartime military economy during peace? The bigger the enemy, the bigger the threat. The bigger the threat, the bigger the fear. The bigger the fear, the better the justification for the ENORMOUS amount spent on the cold war. Thirteen TRILLION dollars. The document raised new questions about how well the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies judged the Soviet Union's aims and intentions, and the extent to which mistaken analyses influenced U.S. military spending and Washington's defense and foreign policies. They weren't mistaken. They lied. The Soviet economy was one one sixth that of the USA's. They didn't have the money to waste on military hardware AND fund their society. The persistent errors also raise questions about the intelligence community's ability to collect reliable information on today's targets, which are more diverse and even harder for spies to penetrate than the Soviet Union was. The " intelligence " community did not see the Soviet Empire crumble. But they did see the Soviets ' modernize and expand ' their military. Why am I paying these guys? During the Cold War, the Soviet Union's force of nuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), submarines, and long-range bombers was the U.S intelligence community's primary target. But today's spies must try to keep track of international terrorists, rogue nuclear-weapons programs and computer hackers, and also plumb the minds of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and North Korea's Kim Jong Il, all of which is much harder than counting missile silos in Kazakstan or estimating the wheat crop in Ukraine. This is all bullshit. This writer is a CIA hack. The study is part of more than 19,000 pages of documents that have been declassified for a two-day conference on the CIA's analysis of the Soviet Union from 1947 to 1991 that opened today at Princeton University. The documents deleted material still considered important to national security. Princeton is the home of the modern US intelligence structure foisted upon the American people by presidential order after WWII. NOTHING comming out of Princeton which relates to intelligence can be trusted. It is simply one of the academic outlets for CIA disinformation. As is this article. Titled "Intelligence Forecasts of Soviet Intercontinental Attack Forces: An Evaluation of the Record," the study reviewed the U.S. intelligence community's projections of efforts to modernize Soviet nuclear forces in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. The forecasts, known as national intelligence estimates (NIE), were intended to guide the president and his top aides in setting defense and foreign policies, including military spending and the size of U.S. nuclear forces. An NIE represents the consensus of 13 agencies, including the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency, which frequently disagreed about the severity of the Soviet threat. The study found that predicting the rate of Soviet nuclear-force modernization "has proven to be the most difficult aspect of Soviet strategic forces to project." Yeah right. As an example, it cited a 1975 forecast that by 1985 more than 90 percent of Soviet long-range missiles and bombers would be replaced. "In reality, the Soviets replaced less than 60 percent of them," the study said. "This tendency to substantially overestimate the rate of [Soviet] force modernization occurred in every NIE published from 1974 to 1986, and it was true for every projected force - whether it assumed high, moderate or low levels of effort," the study continued. Remember the hysteria of the " missile gap?" Remember haw much it cost us to catch up? Evidently, GE, Hughes, General Dynamics, and the other masters of war weren't making enough profits for their share holders to buy a new limousine every year. In another example, it said an NIE published in 1985 - the beginning of President Ronald Reagan's second term - "projected that virtually the entire [Soviet] ICBM force would be replaced within 10 years." The Reagan administration waged economic war against the Soviets using these fabricated reports as justification. The US economy, being six times larger than the Soviet economy, could spend huge
[CTRL] How it's done: Quid pro quo. Corporate donors seek return on investment in Bush campaign.
-Caveat Lector- Corporate donors seek return on investment in Bush campaign http://www.msnbc.com/news/539790.asp Philip Morris has numerous ties to the Bush administration By Tom Hamburger, Laurie McGinley and David S. Cloud THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON, March 6 - For the businesses that invested more money than ever before in George W. Bush's costly campaign for the presidency, the returns have already begun. MBNA America Bank was one of the single largest corporate donors to the Bush campaign and other GOP electoral efforts last year. THE BANK AND ITS EMPLOYEES gave a total of about $1.3 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan clearinghouse here. Charles Cawley, MBNA's president, was a member of the Bush "pioneers," wealthy fund-raisers who each personally gathered at least $100,000 for the presidential campaign. Mr. Cawley hosted Bush fund-raising events at his home in Wilmington, Del., last year and, in 1999, at his summer home in Maine, north of the Bush family retreat in Kennebunkport. At the Maine affair, 200 guests gathered in the early evening on the large porch of the Cawley home, situated on a hill with a sweeping view of the Atlantic Ocean. Guests sipped cocktails and heard a brief talk by the candidate. The money didn't stop on election day. Mr. Cawley and his wife each gave the maximum of $5,000 to help fund Mr. Bush's fight in the Florida vote recount. Mr. Cawley gave an additional $100,000 to the Bush-Cheney inaugural committee, the most the committee would take from a single donor. Last week, MBNA's investment began paying off. The company, one of the nation's three largest credit-card issuers, has been pushing for years to tighten bankruptcy laws that allow certain consumers filing for court protection, in effect, to disregard obligations to credit-card companies and other unsecured lenders. On Wednesday, the White House announced that President Bush would sign a bill now moving through Congress that would make it tougher for consumers to escape such debts. If enacted, the measure could translate into an estimated tens of millions of dollars in additional annual earnings for each of the big credit companies. MBNA's vice chair, David Spartin, says his firm has no way to estimate how the legislation would affect the company's bottom line. MBNA has backed the bill for years "because we think it is good for consumers," as it will "reduce the cost of credit for everyone," Mr. Spartin says. The donations to President Bush and other candidates were made because "we think they would make excellent public officials," he adds. No MBNA official "has ever spoken to President Bush about the bill," Mr. Spartin says. 'OUT OF THE CAVE, BLINKING' Many corporations feel like a new day is dawning in Washington. "We have come out of the cave, blinking in the sunlight, saying to one another, 'My God, now we can actually get something done,' " says Richard Hohlt, Washington lobbyist for several other major banks which, like MBNA, are backing an industry coalition whose members provided some $26 million to Republicans during the 1999-2000 campaign cycle. President Clinton last year vetoed a similar bill that would have toughened bankruptcy law. Consumer groups argue that such legislation would weaken protection for working families, many of whom have been the targets of aggressive credit-card marketing. Also in action last week were members of a large coalition of Mr. Bush's business backers who want to roll back new federal rules designed to protect workers from repetitive-motion injuries. In a private meeting with congressional leaders last Tuesday, President Bush signed off on a plan to kill the ergonomic regulations, using the powers of the Congressional Review Act. That act, passed in 1996, gives Congress 60 days to reject regulations issued by federal agencies. But it was never used during Mr. Clinton's term because to take effect, a resolution rejecting new rules has to be approved by the president. Repealing the ergonomic rules ranks high on the priority lists of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers and the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors. The trade groups technically don't endorse candidates, but each of them mounted major grass-roots and advertising campaigns that benefited Mr. Bush and other Republicans in the 2000 elections. A repeal would be a particularly hard loss for organized labor, which has fought for enactment of the ergonomic rules for 10 years, saying they are needed to protect workers from wrist, back and other injuries. On employee safety, consumer bankruptcy and a host of other issues, Bush administration officials maintain they are acting strictly on the merits, not the money. Proponents of the bankruptcy bill, for example, point out that personal bankruptcy filings reached a record 1.4 million in 1998. The bill that would toughen the bankruptcy law won strong
Re: [CTRL] The Skeleton in George Will's Closet
-Caveat Lector- So Prudy I have a closet everytime I open it it plays Them Bones, Them Bones, them Dry Bones... So long as they stay in the closet I am okay; but if they ever get loose - I am out of here. Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Deutschland über alles]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Deutschland ber alles Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:06:00 -0500 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aleisha Saba wrote: Hey Joshua - can't you get anything rght? Who needs Monarch Butterflies? Note Uber has one B, asshole. It's not German. Asshole. Joshua2 -- Subject: Deutschland ber alles Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aleisha Saba) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/Lieder/deutschl.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Rejected posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:40:51 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at America Online (1.8d)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] The distribution of your message dated Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:48:50 -0500 with subject "[Fwd: rkm The rise of capitalist elites]" has been rejected because you have exceeded the daily per-user message limit for the CTRL list. Other than the list owner, no one is allowed to post more than 7 messages per day. Please resend your message at a later time if you still want it to be posted to the list. Rejected message (165 lines) - Received: from smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.107]) by listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07848 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.61]) by smtp-hub.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14b89M-vY-00; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:40:44 -0500 Received: from 66-44-22-198.s706.apx3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.22.198] helo=starpower.net) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14b89J-0003kM-00 ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:48:50 -0500 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-STAR032398 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Eternera Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: rkm The rise of capitalist elites] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Original Message Subject: rkm The rise of capitalist elites Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:57:23 + From: "Richard K. Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The rise of capitalist elites Central to Smith's model of a market economy was the condition that all buyers and sellers must be small. In this way, prices could not be influenced by individual actors, but would reach a fair and reasonable level - through fair competition between sellers, and comparison shopping on the part of buyers. In Smith's model, very large producers - who had the power to dominate markets - were specifically forbidden. The dynamics of capitalism, on the other hand, lead naturally toward monopoly. While Smith's arguments helped pave the way for capitalism, it is the natural dynamics of capitalism which have prevailed, not the enlightened dynamics which Smith prescribed. If one central principle could be identified, which best characterizes the essence of the Industrial Revolution, that principle would be 'economy of scale'. That's what factories, and steam engines, and mass production are all about. By concentrating lots of equipment, resources, and workers all in one place, it is possible to produce more and cheaper products than with many small operations. In a large operation one can use more powerful and efficient equipment; one can demand discount prices from suppliers; one can set up an efficient distribution system - and there are many other advantages as well. Unless there are sufficient regulatory restrictions placed on the size of an operation, the natural tendency is for the large to gobble the small, and the larger to gobble the large, '...and so adinfinitum'. And this is exactly what has happened, right up to the current day - with its mega retail stores, global fast-food chains, transnational corporations, and the increasing concentration of world commerce into the hands of a small number of huge operators. In order to understand the dynamics of capitalism, recall the capitalist paradigm: 'wealth accumulation through initiative innovation'. Building factories showed one kind of initiative, and lobbying for new economic policies showed another. The entrepreneur and the investor, in pursuit of greater wealth, must always ask themselves the following question: 'Given my available assets, what strategy will bring me the greatest future returns?' The answers to this question are as varied as the human imagination, and it is that 'creativity in pursuit of ever-greater wealth' which has guided the course of history ever since capitalism took hold. Industrialists, bankers, and financiers formed the core of the capitalist community, and as such they were clearly an important and influential segment of society. Governments looked to this community when financing was needed for wars and other government endeavors, and it was from this community that Finance Ministers and other important government officials would usually be selected. The interests of government and the interests of capitalism became intertwined, and government policy increasingly
Re: [CTRL] Another Fatal Raid
-Caveat Lector- Be a cold day in hell before a handful of people will be permitted to destroy my constitutional rights.. Two of my ancestors signed the Declaration of Independence - one died in Andersonville AFTER the Civil War - probably the one named Stiles who rode with Jesse James - a Knight of the Golden Circle.and I descend from Francis Scott Keye and we all have so many cousins over here and are inter-related through marriages but my family kept records - some sealed with Royal Crown of England making it official Some fought in the Revolution and some took it on the lam up to Canada after the Revolutionbut all were men of honor who fought in all these great wars . Talk of blood sacrifices and the Declaration of Independence and freedom of the country came from business end of gun, not singing psalms in Church for often a great man would carry a bible and a gun - two edged sword? In American a Man's Home is His Castle for there is no place like home.no place in this whole wide world. Look to EU - soon they will be singing We Hope the Yanks Are Coming but I say defend our shores, and stop giving aid and comfort to the enemy and if you do not know the enemy by now, well put it this way - by their fruits you should know them for they protect their own assets while laying claim, to ours. Screw the NWO...a handful of people who would destroy this great country? What we need is another Plantagenet with a bigger broom to sweep those bastards to Siberia - understand its getting very, very cold in Siberia - a return to the sixty period - before we even gave them a portion of our good weather? Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Righting the Win
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates29.html Embedded linques at site }}Begin The Right Has Won? (A Footnote on Jonah Goldberg) by Steven Yates Although Ive followed the spat between National Review Online columnist Jonah Goldberg and several of my fellow LewRockwell.com columnists, Id been a nonparticipant. Nevertheless, Goldberg has been one of the many writers whose material I would read and print if he was writing on a topic I found interesting including the article that bashed LewRockwell.com by way of replying to David Dieteman, Myles Kantor and Gene Callahan. Goldberg attempted to produce a "conservative canon." But lets face it: the list was flawed. While most of the books that were on Goldbergs list belonged there, not listing Hayeks major later works or anything by Mises was a blunder. Goldberg goofed in at least one major respect no one I know of has noticed: he omitted C.S. Lewis The Abolition of Man, arguably one of the half-dozen most important books of the 20th century. I confess that in Goldbergs rejoinder to Dieteman, Cantor, and Callahan (as well as this weeks installment) I sense resentment more than anything else resentment that folks out here in the boonies and hinterlands (here boonies and hinterlands mean: everywhere in the country but inside-the-beltway) would take up their word processors and criticize the work of someone in the "in crowd." This would help explain the references to "cat-kicking" libertarians who "spew Diet Coke out of their noses," etc., in response to what I thought was Dietemans sensible and level-headed explanation of why Hayek is not a conservative. Goldberg is dismissive of the whole enterprise of LewRockwell.com. Were unimportant; no one reads us; no one has heard of us; were idiots, he insinuates in his most recent rejoinder; etc., etc. If this is true, then why did he bother replying and then reply a second time? Could it be that he just doesnt want the competition? But none of this is why I took up my word processor here. The dispute led me to take another look at Goldbergs recent columns, upon which I discovered another oddity that might shed some light on recent events. In a January column, Goldberg looked at an article in Lingua-Franca, a rather curious publication somewhere between The Chronicle of Higher Education and People (or was a few years ago; my subscription has since lapsed). Goldbergs topic was a handful of folks who had allied themselves with the right, broadly conceived, and then, for whatever reason, lurched leftward. Examples: John Gray, David Brock (the latter being the author of The Real Anita Hill, still the definitive guide to the University of Oklahoma affirmative-action law professor whose infamous Coke can was instrumental in leftists efforts to sabotage Clarence Thomas Supreme Court nomination in 1991). While reading this article, I came across the following statement: "After decades of war, the Right (broadly defined) has won (even more broadly defined). Over the course of the battle, and even more so in its aftermath, hordes of Leftists have migrated across the intellectual borderlands to the right. Meanwhile, a few dyspeptic and opportunistic tag-alongs and second lieutenants decide to double-back the other way, figuring the decimated and demoralized troops on the Left will eagerly promote them and offer them some hope of victory in the future." Goldbergs remark invoked some dj vu of a different sort, memories of conversations about the right winning. Years ago I would listen to philosophy professors and various other intellectual-wannabes express fears of the coming take-over of what Hillary would later call the vast right-wing conspiracy. We were several years into the so-called Reagan Revolution, and according to this crowd, everything was moving right. I never took any of it seriously. Some of these rants were punctuated with references to offbeat sci-fi fantasies like The Handmaids Tale, perhaps the radical feminists ultimate nightmare but about as plausible as Lost in Space. (The latter at least used
[CTRL] Dear Jonah
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/keller1.html }}Begin An Open Letter to Jonah Goldberg by John Keller Mr. Goldberg: Im was an "ordinary" American conservative. I scratched my head when we invaded Iraq, and since I was in high school, my main concern was that my reservist Uncles make it home safely. I didnt understand why my relatives should be in harms way to fight someone elses war in the middle east, but went along with the "we have to win it if were in it" attitude. After high school, I went to Georgia Tech. I knew the US was helping one side in some "Bosnian War", and that the other side was supposedly doing "really bad things". It sounded fishy, but I was in school and didnt have the time to care. I graduated with an Electrical Engineering degree, and took a job happily building the Internet infrastructure that makes email and the web possible. I disliked being in the 30%+ tax bracket, but compared to student poverty, 60+% of my pay seemed pretty good. I met and married my beautiful Serbian bride a few months before anyone had ever heard of Kosovo. I got quit a shock when I discovered she was one of the "bad guys" but that her family had been ethnically cleansed from Sarajevo by the Muslims. Here was a side to the story I had never heard. She told me the US was going to start another war over Kosovo and was helping the Albanians. I nodded my head at the time, but still didnt quit believe that the media would actually lie about something so dangerous as a war. So, when the claims of a genocide started, I was shocked. She had called it correctly. CNNAOLTIMEWARNERNBCCBSABCMSNBC all spun into action. The most ludicrous claims of Jamie Shea and James Rubin were parroted without question. "100,000 rounded up in a Pristina soccer stadium." Pictures of war refugees were shown as "proof" of the genocide and ethnic cleansing, after the bombs started falling of course. You probably think we were right to bomb. Youre wrong. We armed the KLA while "brokering" the "peace deal". We setup the massacre at Racak. We ripped up the Rambouilett agreement that Yugoslavia signed but the KLA didnt. We drafted a new one with an ammendment that turned Yugoslavia into a NATO puppet state and bombed them when they didnt sign. In violation of the NATO charter. In violation of the US Constitution. We bombed hospitals, power grids, the Chinese Embassy, a market, civilian factories, a commuter train, a TV station, an Albanian refugee column, and countless civilians. We bombed within a kilometer of my in-laws home in downtown Zemun outside Belgrade. We bombed past the 60 day limit of the Unconstitutional "War Powers Act". We bombed in spite of all norms of decency, morality, and common human kindness. Somewhere early on in that personal nightmare I realized that we have become an Empire. Now, paying tribute to the government sickens me. I know that my money went to fund an illegal, unethical war. As we approach the two year anniversary of the bombing, I look back at my political transformation: my joy at finding Antiwar.com, a site dedicated to the truth; my sudden libertarian epiphany when Justin Raimondos links brought me to Lewrockwell.com. So now, as I read National Review (via links from Lewrockwell.com), I ask myself. "How can anyone with a shred of morality advocate aggressive war?" Its a question more and more Americans ask themselves, and each other. Perhaps its a question you should ask yourself. Have you ever seen the Chinese Embassy with your own eyes? Do you understand how shocked and ashamed I was to see bombed bridges, buildings, power plants, and factories as I toured welcoming Yugoslavia last summer? Probably, you do not. When you write about invading Africa, policing Iraq, and peace-keeping in Bosnian and Kosovo, you mean the abstract United States military to do it. You dont mean my high school and college friends that went into ROTC, but theyll be the ones who go. When you use your convienient abstration skills to call me a hairsplitting, ideological kook you dont mean me specifically. But, here I am, along with a lot of other ordinary
Re: [CTRL] NM: Rabbi Describes Hillary Pardons as 'Quid Pro Quo'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 03/10/2001 9:23:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was the finger in our faces where he lied that turned me off - for my husband used to do that when he gave me a lecture. Well Saba, don't be so sure he lied. I'm still recalling the retired old preacher who called C-SPAN and told Brian Lamb and whichever talking head was present that the Bible was very specific in both Exodus (and whichever other book I can't recall) that there was a big difference between sex and sodomy. Brian Lamb and guest looked at each other in a confused way and thanked the old guy for calling. They didn't get it, but I did and rushed for my dictionary. The old guy was right, and Clinton was too. One must be careful about language. I remember when a school in Utah dropped Red Riding Hood from the children's access, because the word "screw" was used in the story. Now it was used in the old way of describing a container, but screw was screw to the folks in whatever small town this was. Not too long ago I shocked a group by saying that someone looked like they had been "rode hard and put away wet". Now this is an old time phrase that relates to what happens to a horse that is ridden hard and put away without being walked to cool down. The horse usually founders, suffers terribly, looks awful and frequently must be put down. My ignorant group had never heard it, knew nothing of horses, and were sure I had said something off color. What can I say? In the South, you can still hear one woman say to another, "You old heifer." It's usually a joke, but it is disparaging. A heifer is a cow that has never had a calf. An old cow that is barren is fit only for slaughter, and the meat will not be very good either. Language means different things to different people in different times. There were a lot of nasty remarks about Clinton's lawyers wanting specific legal definitions for things. I don't blame them. I've just never figured out why Clinton kept rolling over. It was always so important to Republicans that Clinton's words be exact, but Dubya can barely get out a meaningful sentence, and the media and the various talking heads just smile like they're watching an awkward four year old and say, he's learning to use the teleprompter. I can just hear the inference, "Oh look, he's taking his first step." He's not only the "first son;" he's been adopted by ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and FOX. And their pride in his small accomplishments is matched only by his own. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Nazis in the UK
Nazis in the UK Beneath the anxious skies of haze-bound England, you dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Alex Constantine NAZIS ASSUMED DIVIDED BRITAIN WOULD LOSE WAR (Independent, November 26, 1993, p. 3): Hitler believed Britain was so divided in 1941 it could be defeated without invasion, according to documents from Sir Winston Churchills wartime intelligence archive, released yesterday. Other documents released show Britain received reports in 1942 revealing that more than 8,000 men and women died at Auschwitz concentration camp in a single month. Jewish groups maintain that Britain knew more about genocide inside the camp than it has been prepared to admit. Newly released material also reinforces claims that Britain knew of, or was able to predict, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 but failed to warn the United States in an effort to draw her into the war CHANNEL ISLAND NAZIS COULD HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED (Guardian, January 23, 1995): The Governments long-standing claim that none of the Nazis respinsible for war crimes on the Channel Islands could be brought to trial because they escaped capture has been revealed to be a lie. A British military intelligence report uncovered by Guardian reporter Madeliene Bunting in archives in Moscow shows that in September 1945 there were 15 suspected German war criminals being held either on the Channel Islands or in British mainland camps. A further 31 swuspects were identified as easily traceable. None was ever tried, apparently because of official embarrassment about the risk of exposure of the scale of collaboration on the islands, and the fact that the islands witnessed the biggest mass murder ever on British soil In 1945, a copy of the report was sent to the Soviet Union as the most aggrieved nation in the islands labor camps. Wicked and merciless crimes were carried out on British soil in the last three years, Capt. Pantcheff told his superiors after interviewing hundreds of survivors and captors. The crimes included shootings and beatings of sick and starving prisoners on Alderney. In his report, Capt. Pantcheff recommended prosecutions byt, in a television interview in 1990, he maintained that rials had been impossible because those responsible had all left before we got here KING GEORGE VI TRIED TO STOP THE JEWS ESCAPING NAZI GERMANY (International Express, No. 299, July 1994, P. 4): The Queens father tried to stop Jewish families escaping Nazi Germany, according to a controversial new book. George VI is accused of personally intervening to prevent refugees from Hitler fleeing to the safety of Palestine THE NAZI-HUNTERS FACE COSTLY DEFEAT (International Express, No. 169, p. 13): Britains most expensive police investitation, the worldwide hunt for Nazi war criminals, is on the brink of collapse. After a two-year inquiry, a hand-picked Scotland Yard squad has failed to uncover enough evidence for a single prosecution. 1500 UKRANIAN SS OFFICERS MIGRATED TO THE UK (Independent, January 15, 2001): Suspected Nazi war criminals would be stripped of British citizenship under plans being drawn up by the Government to speed the extradition of those accused of committing atrocities during the Second World War. Jack Straw, the Home Secretary, is reviewing his powers amid claims that 1,500 members of a notorious Ukrainian SS division are living in the UK Barbara Roche, the Immigration minister, revealed a change was being considered after a series of allegations about former Nazis living in Britain. "The Home Secretary is considering the scope of his powers under immigration and nationality legislation in relation to individuals suspected of war crimes or crimes against humanity," she confirmed BRITAIN A HAVEN FOR WAR CRIMINALS (Guiardian, December 15, 1993, p. 4) War crimes campaigners have accused the Government of procrastinating over trials as the United States government announced that a British citizen alleged to be a former SS camp guard is to be deported to Britain. Alexander Schweidler, aged 71, a Czech-born British citizen has been living in the United States since 1965. He agreed to leave the country after being charged with having concealed his SS record when applying for a visa to enter the United States TOP BRITISH GENERAL SENT TO HONOUR S.S. (International Express, April 1994): Diplomats accused over tributes to gallant Nazi dead Britains new army commander in Bosnia is at the centre of an embarrassing row after joining former SS officers at a war memorial service organized by one of Hitlers closest aides. The Foreign Office in London asked Brigadier General Andrew Ridgway and two staff officers to lay a wreath at the Second World War ceremony in Celle, northern Germany
[CTRL] Check out Archives of CTRL@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Nazis in the UK
-Caveat Lector- So do not forget some of the Nazi Scientists went to Russian side and von Braun stayed with USAthis man was a nobleman. And I say this, for a fact, WWII was keyed to bible code...America had services of the English in forming our intelligence agenciesbut who is in control of England now but a traitor named Blair - pushing immigrants to keep control over people . For all Kings are brother-s - and that is an old biblical story too - So remember the USS Liberty and remember that 55 million people died in WWII and who controls the "word"...for genocide was invented by a Jewish God - We all know that God was an Englishman? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The gospels redated via the Scrolls
Qumran, Essene, Dead Sea Scrolls Discussion Forum [ Contents | Search | Post | Reply | Next | Previous | Up ] The gospels redated via the Scrolls From: Barbara Thiering Category: Category 1 Date: 23 Feb 2001 Time: 15:47:30 Remote Name: 63.12.23.89 Comments The link with Kevin King's website was interesting, in that he accepts the pre-70 dating of the gospels while upholding a fairly orthodox Christian view about Jesus. As he said, the redating of the gospels was first argued by J.A.T. Robinson in the 60's. Robinson's insight was that the very late date came from a desire to justify the incredible content of the gospels, chiefly the miracles and the apparent contradictions. Time was needed for the growth of legend. The dating simply ignored much of the historical evidence because of this theological motive. Now there is a huge quantity of new information, which Christian biblical scholars are only slowly digesting, much gored by papal bulls. The Scrolls are capable of making an even bigger difference to the NT than the 19th century discoveries of Creation and Flood stories made to the OT. The Scrolls' information leading to a redating of John (for a start) includes the fact of the zealot activities of the Qumran community in its 1st cent CE phase, taken with the many evidences of an institutional connection of Qumran with the early Christians. Further, the enemies of the Teacher are said to be Samaritans in 1QpMic. From this and a great deal more (Clementina, Acts 8, Eusebius, the stone found in the Tiber etc etc), the pesher technique identifies Simon Magus the Samaritan as a leading figure in the history. He was an associate of Jesus, who is called a Samaritan in Jn 8:48, and he was the zealot leader, being also Simon the Zealot of the disciples (Lk 6:15), also Simon the leper of Bethany, and Lazarus of Bethany (numerous pseudonyms used for political cover, as was also the case in the Scrolls' treatment of their opponent). Simon was the leader of the 'Seekers-after-Smooth-Things', Diaspora Essenes, and was the main person crucified for zealotry by Pilate, 'the Young Lion of Wrath' (pNah). Jesus was only a subordinate who was crucified as an act of treachery instigated by the zealots themselves. Since Lazarus is treated sympathetically in John's gospel, (his 'raising from the dead' in Jn 11 being the lifting of his ban of excommunication), this means that this gospel was written before Peter and Paul denounced him (Acts 8, also Acts 13: 8-12 re Bar-Jesus). Acts 8 may be dated, internally from the pesher, in 37-39 CE. A split occurred in 44 CE, in the tolerant reign of Claudius, when pro-Roman Christians separated with a new name, and the zealots remained in the Damascus party that produced CD. The composition of John's gospel may, on these grounds, be placed very early indeed, before 37 CE, only a few years after the crucifixion. Its dualistic philosophy of light-darkness, once taken to be a sign of very late Hellenistic influence, is now known to be thoroughly at home in the Scrolls, as Albright saw at once. Other gospels follow. The pesher indicates that Mark was written in c. 45 CE, Luke at about the same time, and Matthew completed (after an earlier version, the Hebrew Logia) by 49 CE. For further on this, see my 'Jesus of the Apocalypse' (1995) and 'The Book that Jesus Wrote - John's Gospel' (1998). Questions, comments and criticisms that show an understanding of what is being argued would be welcomed. B.T. Last changed: February 23, 2001 Not Finding What You Want Here? Click to subscribe to Dead_Sea_Scrolls E-list This is a one-click access to a wide variety of study materials as well as other items When you purchase through this link, you help support the Community RETURN TO INDEX
Re: [CTRL] NM: Rabbi Describes Hillary Pardons as 'Quid Pro Quo'
-Caveat Lector- Well Prudy I do believe Clinton was set up - what is outrageous is at the same time TV promotes homosexuality and people with whom I have always associated - none of this is polite conversation - many had their cable taken out for cable is controlled by organized crime and it isn't too hard to figure who they are is it/. The experimentors and the experimentees - for classic example of this refer to LIttleton.cause and effects. Clinton always was vulnerable.but it took a pig like Monica to - well put it this way famous old case Angelo Gyp DeCarlo and Sam the Plumber in a phone conversation and both knew the FBI was monitoring their telephones? So they spoke of all the public officials who were "holding them up", bribes and payoffs.and then said "Hey we got so many members (Mafia) in the Masons we call it the Mafia Mason Lodge"..so this was a title out of my manuscript, and I wondered. So who did Nixon pardon? Why Angelo "Gyp" DeCarlo and not a shot or word was fired. Monica was setting Clinton up for it was her phone they tapped...the President knew his line was clear but evidently someone told him hey watch it - the Mossad is tapping your line for his private line turned out to be an old party lineand Monica knew this. She is a trained prostitute - trained - and no matter what you call it, they made a pig pen out of the Oval Office (my apologies to the pig) And John Gotti is in jail? While the chief prosecution witness against him admitted in Court he had murdered 19 people, (had imunity) to show how honest he was. Today the mob should be shouting Give Us Gotti.for they are hanging the wrong man. Then who set up Nixon? Gordon Liddy, Jesuit trained, might have answer to that one - for once a Jesuit, always a Jesuit - Huzzah? saba So all this spying on the internet - we pay taxes to build our own gallows? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The United States of Corporate America
-Caveat Lector- The United States of Corporate America A sad realization By Diane Tkac March 9, 2001 http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Tkac030901/tkac030901.html First let's make it clear that under the Bush regime, America is a corporation and corporations are in the business of making money. You've got to have money to participate and frankly, most Americans just don't earn enough. The Clinton administration did a great disservice to Corporate America by encouraging individual participation. You know the saying about too many cooks. Second, citizens need to understand that government regulations are dramatically eating away Corporate America's profits. To correct this unjust theft and intrusion by government, the Bush regime will submit a budget that slashes funding for EPA, FEMA, the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Energy, Interior, Justice, Labor and Transportation. With these departments curtailed, Corporate America will see a massive reduction in regulations, and experience a sizable increase in its bottom line profits. Any damage caused by reduced or non-existent regulations, will be limited to areas inhabited by the poor (recently removed from the tax rolls), the uneducated and most minorities. Please consider this Corporate America's public notification to reduce activity in these areas. Corporate America will not accept liability for ailments, accidents or damages incurred while living and working in or traveling through these areas. Third. Voter participation over the past several election cycles has dipped below 50 percent. With the ultimate goal of eliminating time consuming elections, Corporate America has streamlined the voting process. Just think no more campaign ads, no more boring debates and no more waiting in line to cast a ballot. Corporate America will select and present to the Supreme Court, an experienced, prominent (wealthy), white (of course) male for a ceremonial stamp of approval. Also in a strictly ceremonial process, citizens may cast a vote; these votes, of course, will not be counted. Fourth. The Office of Faith Based Initiatives, created for Republican supported special interest groups (i.e. Christian Coalition, NRA, Right to Life, etc.) will approve future funding to the poor and needy. The Republican Congress is instructed to no longer involve themselves in social issues. Corporate America thanks all the special interest groups participating in Election 2000, however, their services are no longer needed to disseminate Corporate America's message. In the future, all information passed on to the public, will be carefully constructed and presented in an easily understood, entertaining sound bite. Finally, Corporate America will not, in any way, eliminate the American Dream. A compassionate conservative Corporate America would never deny an individual the right to dream that he or she could dramatically change the course of their lives. Corporate America does, however, refuse to provide any assistance in realizing the dream. Welcome to the United States of Corporate America, government of business, by business and for business. ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] That's how the president speaks
-Caveat Lector- "That's how the president speaks" By Bill C. Davis March 9, 2001 http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Davis030901/davis030901.html The man who won the Nobel Peace Prize sits next to George and we listen and watch as George says things like: "We had a frank discussiona good discussion." "We'll consult closely. We'll stay in touch." He points to a reporter, sans nickname, after Kim Dae Jung has responded in depth to a question, and George says to the reporter something like, "Go ahead, if you can remember your question. Or if you know the answer." Implying perhaps that Kim Dae Jung went on too long and that he, George, will not have an answer, or that the reporter, like he, must strain to remember what he was thinking or if he was thinking. This, I suppose, is what people like Tom Brokaw and Cokie Roberts would call charming. I call it frightening. Equally frightening is a response from a White House spokesman to a question about a George statement. Explaining why he is suspicious of North Korea, George is quoted in an article by David E. Sanger in the New York Times as saying, "We're not certain as to whether or not they're keeping all terms of all agreements." According to the article there is apparently only one agreement America has with North Korea and there is no evidence that it is not keeping those terms. The White House spokesman said that George was referring to future agreements. When pressed about the fact the George did not use the future tense, the spokesman said, "That's how the president speaks." That's how the president speaks. George's impromptu speaking is a reflection of his simplistic thinking process and his lack of emotional and intellectual connection to complicated and ambiguous issues. He can't seem to process them. He comes out with things like: "The North Koreans should know that we are a peaceful people. They need not be fearful of us." It's bad dialogue from a Grade-B science fiction movie. Yes, we are building a missile defense system. Yes, our military budget is bigger than the next seven countries combined. Yes, we bomb Baghdad. Yes a girl, in a Catholic school, named Bush shot her classmate in the back, but we are a peaceful people and until you can assure me that you see us that way, I will be very suspicious of you. What gives him the right to be suspicious and at the same time oblivious to the suspicions of others? Somehow he feels he has said we are a peaceful people and they should just accept that and our suspicions without any resentment or indignation. Colin Powell, shifting from previous positions, now refers to North Korea as a threat. There are no imminent negotiations about to take place. The way the president speaks not only reflects a simplistic thought process, but seems to create them as well. It's a new version of collateral damage. The military used to exist to protect our borders, now it exists to protect our interests. Who is defining "interests" for us? Is it George? His sponsors? If he had a clear grasp of the agenda he was fronting for, one could feel secure. If I felt it was all a big chess game and the overriding interest of all parties, after all is said and done, was the preservation of the chessboard, I'd sort of sit back and watch the spectacle. But somehow I feel this could spiral out of control with George holding the pieces. In a sane world, he would get a vote of no confidence and retire to his ranch, which is what he wants to do anyway. My anger about not seeing Al Gore there talking to Kim Dae Jung is reserved for the people like that spokesman who said, "That's just the way the president speaks." The mantra for the enablers: "That's just the way he. . . . ." fill in the blank. My anger is for the senators and congressmen on both sides who just let it happen as they try to convince us and them that he can do it; that he'll be fine and that's just the way he speaks. I think the guy who knows better than anyone what is happening to the country is Dick Cheneya smart guy, probably patriotic. Maybe he is developing a global vision, but even he has to know that it's not just the way the president speaks, it's the president. You just know the poor guy is trying but, God bless him, his heart is just not in it. ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
Re: [CTRL] Shriners lose liquor licence after party
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find info on this article. Sincerely, Neil Brick "Shriners lose liquor licence after party - Strippers, lewd sex acts: Police investigate Manitoba group after allegations of prostitution at event - 3/9/01 - Les Perreaux National Post - Liquor authorities in Manitoba have permanently cut off a group of Winnipeg Shriners following a wild party" http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20010309/495950.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Canada and freedom: Like oil and water (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:33:50 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gunsafe members [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Canada and freedom: Like oil and water The Canadian mentality on guns, now applied to cell phones. Read and think about it. Who wants to bet we won't see a similar proposal in Connecticut? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010310/tc/cellular_jammers_dc_2.html Saturday March 10 11:21 AM ET Canada May Allow Jammers to Silence Cellphones By Ian Karleff TORONTO (Reuters) - The piercing ring of a mobile phone is enough to send many restaurant and movie patrons into a rage, but Canada's mobile phone industry is dead against the government forcing etiquette on the country's eight million users by legalizing signal jamming technology. Industry Canada is planning to launch three months of public consultations into the use of the technology, which could be used to block cellular phone signals in restaurants, theaters, libraries or other locations. ``We're going to gather the widest public views possible on the use of cellphone silencers,'' said Industry Canada advisor David Warnes. Warnes told the National Post newspaper that not only are there widespread complaints about cellphone use in public places but also inquiries by security firms that want to put jammers in corporate boardrooms to protect privacy. The industry representing cellular phone manufacturers and network operators is firmly against legalizing signal jamming systems on the grounds that it could compromise public safety. ``Jamming technology is illegal here in Canada. We hope it would remain illegal,'' said Marc Choma, a spokesman for cellphone lobby group the Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association. ''Our primary concern is public safety with three million (emergency) calls per year made to 911.'' Cellular phones have long been advertised as indispensable tools in an emergency, and the industry is worried that this lifeline would be compromised with jamming technology. Lately, the industry has been under attack from multiple fronts as cellphones become ubiquitous, with critics saying mobile phones are health risks and many North American jurisdictions considering banning their use by drivers. There are currently 8.3 million cellular phone users in Canada, up 27 percent from 1999, and this number is expected to grow by 25 to 30 percent in 2001. Cellular phones are a fairly new invention and have only gained widespread popularity in the past few years, so it only makes sense that society has yet to self-regulate their usage, said Choma. ``Etiquette is not something we feel you can legislate. It will take a bit of time for Canadians to tell other Canadians what is right and wrong, and what is rude,'' added Choma. Vicki Whitmell, the executive director of the Canadian Library Association said she has yet to hear of problems with cellphones in libraries. ``I haven't heard anyone mention this issue and I would think it's partly the culture of libraries. People know how to use libraries and most libraries have had a policy in place regarding it for some time,'' she said. Choma argues that rather than block the signals, users can be encouraged to turn the phones off in public places or set them to vibrate rather than ring. But these are the kinds of solutions that come from peer, rather than government pressure, he said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Evidence Grows That Bush Will Back 'Global Warming' Treaty
-Caveat Lector- Carbon dioxide, emitted when coal, oil and natural gas combust, is one of those identified greenhouse gases. But it is also the substance released into the air by humans when they breathe, so it is still not classified as a pollutant by U.S. environmental regulating agencies. Well, it WOULD be one way to rationalize killing off a few billion people __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Reformatted] New Magnetic-Electric Device Can Power Home From Near Free Energy Source (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Steve, I felt this so important that I reformatted and cross posted it to several other lists, some of which will consider this article as TOTALLY OT. Thanks for posted it, Steve. Oh, and have you ever tried any of the reformatting soft ware? I've tried several, and I find the following best (it's free ware). Clean Sweep at: http://members.tripod.com/shin26/index.htm --MS] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:30:24 -0800 From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:IUFO [EMAIL PROTECTED], SNETNEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IUFO: New Magnetic-Electric Device Can Power Home From Near Free Energy Source New Magnetic-Electric Device Can Power Home From Near Free Energy Source By Penny Robins The Cairns Post Northern Queensland, OZ 3-8-1 http://www.sightings.com/general9/unveil.htm (Note - 'Ergon' refers to the local electricity supplier utility which used to be known as the FNQEB Far North Queensland Electricity Board). Two Cairns inventors yesterday unveiled a world first commercial machine which can power a house from a permanent, clean, green and virtually free energy source. The machine, developed by Brinsmead mechanical engineer John Christie and Edge Hil electrician Lou Brits, has an international patent pending and is expected to go on the market for $4000-$5000. Relying on the attraction and repulsion of internal magnets, the Lutec 1000 operates continually on a pulse-like current 24 hours a day - producing 24 kilowatts of power - once it is kickstarted from a battery source. The device is more than 500 per cent efficient, compared to a car which is less than 40 per cent efficient and loses power through heat and friction. No powerlines would be needed to distribute energy from the individual power sources. There is no heat, harmful emissions or airborne matter in the transmission. If it were not for the magnets, which have a life of 1300 years, and the battery pack, which has a life of about five years, the machine would be in perpetual motion. A demonstration of the motor from the carpeted study of Mr Christie's Brinsmead home revealed the device in all its glory - bigger than the average cyclone back-up generator but much less noisy. Mr Christie and Mr Brits have been tinkering together on the motor in their spare time since they met in a Sheridan St cafe five years ago and began sharing ideas. One and a half years ago, the design was perfected and the pair lodged a patent with Brisbane patent attorneys Griffith Hack. Mr Christie said the next step was to develop a small-scale pilot plant in Cairns to begin distributing the motors to the places they were needed most - such as shops and homes in the power-starved Daintree region and the Torres Strait. He said the price tag for the devices could vary in remote locations depending on government rebates, freight and installation costs. The beauty of the device was that it was transportable and could be packed in a removalist van along with other earthly possessions when moving house, he said The only problem the pair now face is in raising $500,000 to start their production plant. "We're trying to keep it local, and trying to keep it in Australia, but it's hard because, offshore, they are more aggressive in taking up new initiatives," Mr Christie said. Already, the invention has received interest from the United States, China, Japan and Indonesia. "But we want to set up here and put the product on the market first, and then we'll take it to the world," he said. Mr Christie said it had been hard to keep a lid on the invention which had such a huge potential in the quest for clean, green, energy production. He said he and Mr Brit also feared the worst once they realised the significance of their invention. "We were afraid the kids would be kidnapped or we'd be shot, I'm not kidding," he said. "You hear horror stories about people running up against fuel companies, but it's all hogwash - people in the main are desperately looking for technologies that will help our environment." The pair have begun discussions with Ergon as there is also the opportunity of selling energy back to the grid. Mr Christie said the average home with a pool needed only 14kW of energy per day - which meant a 10 kW daily excess would be left over during the generation process Griffith Hack partner Cliff Carew, who was speaking from Brisbane, confirmed the device was genuine and unique. "An international application has been lodged, they've conducted an international search and haven't come up with anything similar, so it would seem to be a new concept," Mr Carew said. He said it would be another two and a half years before the patent was recognised in 140 countries around the world - the usual length of time for an international patent to be processed. MainPage: http://www.rense.com --end-- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES
[CTRL] Chomsky
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[CTRL] re : Crisis of Confidence
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find information on this article. Sincerely, Neil Brick Crisis of Confidence - by Andrea Moore Emmet - "Janice Earl is battling the LDS church, alleging officials tried to cover up a sexual assault on her daughter, Lynette. - For the past nine years she has pursued a tenacious fight to find justice for her daughter, who says she was sexually assaulted at the age of seven. Though no criminal charges have been filed, Janice, her husband and her daughter have become plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the most powerful entity in the state, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. For the first time in a child sexual abuse case against the church, the Utah Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments to determine whether the Earls have a valid complaint" "Two years ago, after a year of waiting for a court date, the case was finally considered by Third District Judge J. Dennis Frederick. The judge rejected the Earls' claims against the LDS church. An attorney from the firm of Kirton and McConkie, representing the church, maintained in court that there was no basis for accusations because any claim of clergy malpractice would be an unconstitutional infringement of the boundary of church and state." Note: The Supreme Court upheld the previous court's decision, No. 981873, filed 3/9/01 - UT 25 http://www.avenews.com/ 3/8/01 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NSA OVER-RIDE
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/antmag.html 2/24/01 6:23:56 PM Pacific Standard Time This was sent to me. Where it came from I don't know yet. ANON David E. Steitz Headquarters, Washington, DC February 21, 2001 (Phone: 202/358-1730) Rosemary Sullivant Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA (Phone: 818/354-0747) RELEASE: 01-24 SPACE MAPPING MISSION OF ANTARCTICA ABORTED DUE TO NSA OVER-RIDE In a brief announcment today, NASA and the JPL terminated all further study of Lake Vostok in S. Antarctica. In an apparent slip of confidentiality, spokeswoman Debra Shingteller alluded to "National Security Issues" allowing the NSA to assume full control of what had been an International effort to explore a huge, under-ice lake near the Russian Vostok research station. Ms. Shingteller was immediately led away from the podium, and an aid responded to the many further questions with the same answer: "the project has been halted due to environmental issues", and that no further releases were pending. The large crowd of press corp. were left clamoring as the officials left the stage. Ms. Shingteller has not responded to repeated attempts at contact. The above is a report from an official JPL PR rep. who attended the announcement. The following is part of a letter written to an editor of Scientific American Magazine (who has requested anonimity). The linked photo at the end was released by NASA in Jan 2001 seemingly by mistake. It is no longer available from the official archive. Approximately 300 miles from the South Pole there is a lake, a very large lake. It is Lake Vostok. It is also located over 3/4 mile beneath the Continental Ice Sheet. The best photos of Lk Vostok are from space, where the outline is clearly visible. Current ice-penetrating radar studies indicate that the water is up to 2000 ft deep in places, and has an over-arching dome up to 1/2 mile high. Estimates for filtered light at the lake surface indicate something like "continuous first morning light" during Antarctica's summer months. Thermograph imaging proposes an amazing 50-degree average water temperature with "hot spots" near 65 degrees. This can only be attributed to subsurface geothermal heat sources. At 300 miles long, and 50 miles wide, the encapsulated atmosphere should have the ability to cleanse itself through interaction with the lake, and possibly... plant life. Also proposed as a possible route for atmospheric interaction with the lake's environment are what are being labeled "geothermal boils". These are thousands of bubbles in the ice sheet located in the some 200 sq. miles of "ice dunes" discovered by the late Russian scientist Ivan Toskovoi who was stationed at Vostok research base until his disappearance in March 2000. The surveyed bubbles range from a few to several hundred feet in diameter. Quite possibly just as exciting as all of the data related so far, is the discovery through Magnetic Imaging that there is an extremely powerful source of magnetic energy located at the North end of the lake's shoreline. As of this writing, no one has suggested an explanation for the magnetic "anomaly". As recently as February 2000, at least two international teams were planning separate probes of the lake. Both consisted of fairly similar robotic sensors that would have been lowered through shafts(to be drilled). The team based at Cambridge University, London were sponsored by the UK and US governments, and backed by NASA technology. For reasons not clear, both programs have been shelved indefinitely, with NASA going so far as to deny any involvement, and both governments citing "environmental concerns". An independent source that visited Norway's research base some 150 miles to the East stated that a large amount of new equipment and personnel have been arriving at Russia's Vostok Station over the last six months. This is interesting considering Russia's current financial situation. A final note is a verified dispatch out of Casey Station(AU). The pair of women adventurers who were attempting to ski across the continent last month, and were extracted by plane during the last leg of their trip, did NOT request the intervention. Over the protests of the Australian crew at Casey, the two were airlifted via an extraordinary 48 hour flight by a USN Special Forces team out of American Samoa. According to the dispatch the women were insistent on reporting something unusual they had seen. The latest news reports have the pair resting in "seclusion". NSA OVER-RIDE.url
[CTRL] Bankruptcy Bill Benefits Chosen Few
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48588-2001Mar9.html Bankruptcy Bill Benefits Chosen Few Well-to-Do Investors Sought Special Provision By Kathleen Day Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, March 10, 2001; Page A01 A bill designed to make it harder for Americans to wipe out their debts through bankruptcy contains a special clause that helps shield a group of well-to-do Americans from a debt of at least $15 million owed to insurance giant Lloyd's of London. The provision is one of the few in the bankruptcy legislation now being debated in the Senate that would benefit a small targeted group: about 300 Americans, including 20 millionaires such as Lorraine Grace and her son, Oliver Grace -- relatives of deceased industrialist J. Peter Grace. The amendment was added last fall by Republican congressional leaders when they met privately to craft a final version of the bankruptcy legislation, which was passed last week in the House. The provision is an attempt by American investors to win a long-running battle with Lloyd's that they have lost in British courts. Lloyd's depends on tens of thousands of wealthy individuals and companies to provide funds for underwriting its insurance. When Lloyd's suffered enormous losses in the late 1980s and 1990s, investors were expected to use their assets to cover the claims. Many investors originally balked at the billions in losses, but most eventually settled, including many of the 3,000 American investors. But about 10 percent of the Americans refused, contending that they were misled about the risk and accusing Lloyd's of fraud. The provision in the bankruptcy bill, which the Senate expects to vote on next week, would prevent Lloyd's from collecting money from those American investors, unless the insurer could prove its case in a U.S. court. U.S. courts have thus far refused to hear these cases, saying that British courts have jurisdiction over British contracts. "This is another example of how hopelessly skewed the bankruptcy bill is," said Travis Plunkett of the Consumer Federation of America, a nonprofit advocacy group. "Wealthy investors get a bailout from their financial obligations, while Americans of modest means must confront harsh new bankruptcy barriers." Consumer groups say the bankruptcy bill will hurt middle and lower-income families struggling with debts because of divorce, ill health or job loss. Lloyd's investor Thomas Lind, a lawyer for Canal Barge Co., a small transportation company in New Orleans, disagreed, saying the British courts failed to fully consider the fraud allegations investors raised, as U.S. law would require. "All we're asking is that we be allowed to have our day in court," he said. "I don't see any irony or conflict with that amendment being in the bill. As I understand [it], the purpose of the bill as a whole is to allow fair and legal debts to be collected. And there's nothing fair and legal about the debt I and hundreds of others are being asked to pay," said Lind, who described himself as "a middle-class citizen." The protracted legal battle with Lloyd's forced him in 1995 to prepare for the possibility of bankruptcy, he said. He has dropped out of "all the social clubs I belonged to." And he said he transferred half of his assets, which he said are worth $400,000 including his house, to his wife's name to protect them. The Graces and the rest of the 300 investors fund an organization called the American Names Association, which they formed in 1993 to represent them. (Lloyd's refers to individual investors as "Names.") The 300 have already paid $150 million in claims to Lloyd's over the past decade, or about $700,000 each on average, said Jeffrey Peterson, a spokesman for the association.But as losses mounted, they decided to challenge Lloyd's. The American Names Association lobbied Democrats and Republicans in Congress for over a year in favor of the amendment. Republican members of Congress crafting a bankruptcy bill last fall added the measure at the request of Rep. Henry J. Hyde (R-Ill.) and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), Sessions and a spokesman for Hyde said yesterday. The meeting was closed to Democrats and to consumer group lobbyists. In an interview yesterday, Sessions said that several Democrats, including Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and now-retired Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, also pushed for the amendment. Republicans decided to include it in the final bill partly to try to gain their votes for the bill, Sessions said. Congress passed the bankruptcy bill last year, but President Bill Clinton called it unfair to consumers and vetoed it. In January, Republicans reintroduced a virtually identical bill that included the Lloyd's clause. President Bush is expected to sign the measure if Congress passes it. The British government and the State Department oppose the Lloyd's provision, saying it undermines court rulings and international treaties that require contract disputes to be settled in courts in the
[CTRL] The New Thought Police Suppressing Dissent in Science
http://www.i-sis.org/sciencewar-pr.shtml
[CTRL] NSA, Carnivore, Others Win 'Anti-Awards'
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/162864.html NSA, Carnivore, Others Win 'Anti-Awards' By Robert MacMillan, Newsbytes CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS, U.S.A., 07 Mar 2001, 8:35 PM CST The National Security Agency, the FBI's Carnivore Internet surveillance system, ChoicePoint and the city of Tampa today all received the dubious "Big Brother" awards from Privacy International for their Internet missteps in the eyes of online privacy advocates. The National Security Agency took top "honors" for the "lifetime menace award," despite Privacy International's David Banisar's assertion that in the past five years "they've gotten happy and friendly." He noted that this latest trend of NSA user-friendliness has amounted to a general attempt not to stop invading citizen's privacy, but to focus attention away from it. The once-known-as-Carnivore Internet snooping project run by the FBI won the award for "most heinous project," according to Banisar, for, as he said, "Bringing Echelon to the ISP level." The city of Tampa, Fla., meanwhile, took the honors for "worst government official/agency" for the by now notorious Super Bowl Sunday surveillance project in which video cameras taped the faces of fans, and then matched them up against a criminal recognition program. ChoicePoint, a company that sold consumer data in Transportation Department records, and also supplied Texas-based felon lists to the state of Florida so it could invalidate certain potential voters then living in that state during the 2001 presidential election, took the prize for "greatest corporate invader." Other contenders for the lifetime menace award included IBM for, among other things, its continuing lobbying push on Capitol Hill against privacy laws, and the Direct Marketing Association for "making sure junk mail is officially delivered," Banisar said. Nortel Networks and VeriSign's Network Solutions were runners-up for "greatest corporate invader," with Network Solutions receiving a special raspberry for selling its WHOIS database to direct marketers. The Justice Department and three Pennsylvania school districts - Tussey Mountain, Penn Cambria and Lower Merion - took honors for the Cybercrime.gov project and a local school district initiative to link a biometrics program for individual students to their school lunch programs. The Clinton administration's medical privacy regulations, under the Department of Health Human Services, took flak from Privacy International for its pretense of protecting personal patient data, but in reality, PI said, for allowing the selling of that data on a widespread basis.
[CTRL] The Seven Big Lies About Iraq
http://antiwar.com/rep/utley2.html The Seven Big Lies About Iraq by Jon Basil Utley 3/9/01 ONE –It’s Saddam’s fault that half a million children died since the economic blockade, saddam could feed his people if he cared instead of using his money to buy weapons – "More than one million Iraqis have died- 500,000 of them children-as a direct consequence of economic sanctions... As many as 12% of the children surveyed in Baghdad are wasted, 28% stunted and 29% underweight." – UN FAO, December 1995. For details see Morbidity and Mortality Among Iraqi Children 1990-98. ANSWER – Nearly all oil sales money has been allocated through United Nations inspectors, subject to nearly 40% reduction for reparations and UN expenses, and subject to Washington's veto and foot dragging – usually months for even the simplest decision. Washington has allowed food and medicine imports, but almost nothing else. For nearly ten years it blockaded chlorine to sanitize the water and any equipment to rebuild the electricity grid, sanitation and irrigation facilities. Even pencils for school children were prohibited. (A New York Times editorial 2/11/01 reports, "currently American diplomats are holding up billions of dollars of imports needed for civilian transportation, electric power generation...and even medical treatment"). Finally the Europeans rebelled at the cruelty and shamed Washington into allowing such imports, (New York Times 12/6/00). Until oil prices increased last year, sales ran about $4 billion yearly minus about 35% withheld by UN left 2.6 billion divided by 20 million population = $130 per year per person = 36 cents per day per person for food, medicine. Obviously Iraq needed to rebuild its agriculture and transport infrastructure to feed itself, but this was prevented by Washington. Washington blockaded supplies to rebuild Iraq's bombed oil production and refining facilities since 10 years, although it went to war supposedly to assure oil supplies for the world. Iraq is now also getting substantial monies through sales of smuggled oil, especially since the price of oil went up and the rest of the world tires of the American blockade. No doubt some of this goes for weapons purchases. TWO – If Iraq allowed inspections for wmd (weapons of mass destruction), Washington would remove the blockade. Iraq iraq must prove that it has no wmd and that it won't manufacture any in the future. ANSWER – There's No Connection Between Inspections and Sanctions on Iraq and consequently no incentive for Iraq to comply. Equally No Nation can "prove" a negative, that it's not doing something. Biological and chemical weapons can be made, "in a large closet which is all the space you need to mix deadly chemical weapons.. Chemical and biological weapons are the great equalizers against our atomic weapons." (Time "Everyman a Superpower," 11/24/97). Re inspections, Reuters reported, 12/13/99, – "The (European) aim was to prevent the United States and Britain from imposing arms requirements that Iraq could not meet and thus keeping the sanctions in place for years to come." And AFP 12/13/99, "French diplomats retorted that by insisting on full cooperation, the council would give the United States an excuse to refuse to suspend sanctions on the flimsiest grounds." Madeleine Albright declared in 1997: "We do not agree with the nations who argue that if Iraq complies with its obligations concerning weapons of mass destruction, sanctions should be lifted." Clinton went one step further when he said, "sanctions will be there until the end of time, or as long as he [Saddam] lasts." The Bush Administration has not repudiated these statements Scott Ritter, former head of the U.N. arms inspection team in Iraq, on the NBC Today Show, 12/17/98, explained, "Washington perverted the U.N. weapons process by using it as a tool to justify military actions, falsely so. ... The U.S. was using the inspection process as a trigger for war." THREE – Iraq wouldn't let the UN/US monitors inspect possible wmd production or storage sites. that's why America started bombing. ANSWER – Iraq did so from 1991 until 1998, but Washington still wouldn’t take off the trade blockade. Scott Ritter, the former UNSCOM inspector, told CNN on 2/18 "In terms of large-scale weapons of mass destruction programs, these had been fundamentally destroyed or dismantled by the weapons inspectors as early as 1996, so by 1998 we had under control the situation on the ground." Then in 1998 Washington also demanded access to the Iraq's government personnel files, the basis of the its power structure. Saddam saw that U.S. demands were just always increased with no hope of sanctions being lifted. FOUR – It's Iraq's fault that the blockade continues. America has nothing against Iraq's people, only against its government. ANSWER – Britain and Washington have introduced a "peace plan"demanding that Iraq must allow
[CTRL] Spy files reveal US lied to beat Soviets in arms race
http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/world.cfm?id=53332keyword=the Spy files reveal US lied to beat Soviets in arms race Robert Tait In Washington THE UNITED States deliberately exaggerated the advancement of Ronald Reagan’s "Star Wars" missile defence project to price the Soviet Union out of the cold war, previously unreleased documents revealed yesterday. US intelligence experts advised President Reagan that the 1980s Soviet economy was too weak to enable it to respond with its own system and that further development would force Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet leader, to the negotiating table. Details of the 1980s US strategy on Star Wars - the forerunner to President George Bush’s proposed national missile defence - are contained in hitherto classified documents released yesterday by the CIA. Some 859 documents, containing 19,000 pages of cold war analysis written between 1947 and 1991 - the year the Soviet Union collapsed - were released. Despite the display of official openness, the reports have been carefully censored to hide intelligence sources and sensitive information that could affect contemporary US security interests. All the same, they reveal the mixture of speculation, uncertainty, shrewd analysis and misjudgment that characterised the US assessment of its superpower adversary during the cold war. They show that the US overestimated the Soviet military build-up between the mid-70s and 1980s. Other documents predict that the selection of a Polish Pope, John Paul II, in 1978 would be "extremely worrisome to Moscow" because it would make it more difficult for the Soviet Union to keep Catholic Poland integrated into a rigid Communist system. The released documents also reveal the CIA admitting it had "no eyes and ears" in the Soviet Union in the early years of the cold war, during the 1940s and early 1950s. "We have no reliable inside intelligence on thinking in the Kremlin," a top-secret 1953 report stated, adding that there would be no means of obtaining information in the event of a surprise attack. It was only the advent of the U2 spy plane - one of which was later shot down over Soviet territory - and the Corona spy satellite in the late 50s that the US was able to best the Soviets in the quality of intelligence. A 1963 document revealed a split within the upper echelons of the US intelligence community over just how close the United States and Soviet Russia had come to nuclear war over the Cuban missile crisis of October the previous year. However, the advice given to the Reagan administration by the CIA over Star Wars proved prescient. The agency predicted in 1987 that the Soviet Union was likely to pursue arms control measures in return for US concessions on missile defence - a scenario that ultimately came to pass. But, in a forerunner to the contemporary debate over national missile defence, the agency predicted that the Soviets would try to foment European opposition to star wars by portraying it as a threat to Washington’s commitment to defending western Europe. The documents reveal that, after Mr Reagan announced his Star Wars project - a space-based defence against nuclear attack - in 1983 the US deliberately deceived the Soviets over the extent to which its development was proceeding. The released documents include several analysis of Mikhail Gorbachev’s policies of glasnost and perestroika and reveal how puzzling the then new Soviet leader was to US analysts. In 1986 ,the CIA analysed Mr Gorbachev’s anti-alcohol campaign and concluded that success in curtailing alcohol abuse, at a time when consumption had doubled over the prior 30 years, would strengthen his political position. Lloyd Salvetti, director of the CIA’s Centre for the Study of Intelligence - unveiling the documents yesterday - compared studying the Gorbachev regime to "trying to keep pace with a rapidly moving train".
[CTRL] CLASS WARFARE-It's Back in Fashion
http://www.tompaine.com/news/2001/03/09/1.html
The Loyal Opposition
CLASS WARFARE
It's Back in Fashion
David Corn is the Washington editor of the Nation. His first novel, Deep
Background, a political thriller, was published recently by St. Martin's
Press.
Class warfare is alive and well in Washington, DC.
Last summer, after Al Gore delivered his populist-lite acceptance speech at
the Democratic National Convention -- in which he pledged to combat powerful
interests on behalf of common folk -- Republicans and much of the chattering
class hooted him for resorting to old-fashioned get-the-rich classism and
proclaimed that his desperate tactics would be soundly rejected by The
People.
After the election was finally resolved, New Democrats -- those bankrolled by
corporate lobbyists -- attributed Gore’s defeat to his down-beat populism (as
diluted and last-minute as it was), and they echoed the conventional wisdom
that us-against-them rhetoric is a thing of the past and does not reflect the
realities of the New Economy. All these predictions and analyses, though,
were undermined by the numbers, for Gore did draw more popular votes than
George W. Bush. And had the Supreme Court not intervened in the fiasco in
Florida, Gore probably would have pulled ahead in the statewide recount
ordered by the state supreme court. Consequently, it’s hard to argue his line
of attack was an obvious mistake. Nevertheless, his loss has not side-lined
class warfare -- just open talk of it, for the Republicans have been
advancing their silent form of class conflict on various fronts.
Battle one -- the Bush tax cut. After Bush made nice-nice with the Democrats
-- and suckered them into seconding his empty rhetoric about bipartisanship
-- his Republican allies in the House rolled the Democrats on legislation
encompassing the central provision of the Bush tax cut. There is no denying
that Bush and the House GOPers rushed through a measure that by lowering tax
brackets sends far more "relief" to higher-income Americans than lower-income
Americans. The top 1 percent would get about 44 percent of the Bush tax
give-back, according to Citizens for Tax Justice. The GOPers argue this is
only natural since the rich pay more in taxes. But by one estimate, the
1-percenters pay 39 percent. Thus, even by Bushian standards, they will
pocket more than their fair share. (When Bush's Treasury Department released
figures on the distributional impact of the President's proposed tax cut, it
conveniently left out the calculation for the top 1 percent, which previous
administrations customarily included.)
There’s no compelling need to structure a tax cut in favor of the wealthy. If
the goal is to send $2 trillion back to people to spark the sluggish economy,
why not zap it all to middle- and low-income citizens? Is it better that a
boost in consumer spending be Lexus-driven rather than Taurus-driven?
This was how Republicans and the corporate lobby tried to demonstrate the
Bush tax cut is good for working Americans: the National Association of
Manufacturers sent out a memo to business groups that urged lobbyists to show
up at Capitol Hill tax cut rally wearing hard hats and non-business attire.
"WE DO NEED BODIES -- they must be DRESSED DOWN, [to] appear to be REAL
WORKER types, etc," said the note, which was obtained by the Washington Post.
Camouflage -- just like in real warfare -- to hide the truth.
Under the House measure, the top 1 percent would see their after-tax income
go up 3.8 percent, the bottom 20 percent, 0.6 percent, according to the
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Why shouldn’t those numbers be
flipped? Millions of low-income Americans who pay little, if any, income
taxes but who are socked by Social Security taxes would realize no relief
under this plan. And the Bush/GOP tax cuts are based on iffy surplus
projections, so there’s a possibility that down the road the tax cuts will
have to be paid for by reductions in social spending or a raid on the Social
Security surplus -- either of which would likely hurt the poor more than the
affluent.
In order to beat back the Bush offensive, the Democrats will have to persuade
Americans the tax cut of this charming and friendly fella is unfair, and that
means they have to spell out who wins and who loses. ("Our strategy at the
moment," quips one congressional Democratic aide, "is to wait for Strom
Thurmond to die.") If the Democrats don’t want to acknowledge they are in the
middle of class warfare, perhaps they can refer to it as a "policy dispute
involving population strata distributional benefits." Still, they are going
to have to ask people, which side -- or strata -- are you on?
Battle two -- the ergonomics rules. In response to one of the most intense
corporate lobby blitzes in years, the Republicans in the House and Senate --
aided by several conservative Democratic senators -- voted to deep-six the
[CTRL] Princess Diana Could Have Been Saved, Says Medic
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010310/wl/britain_diana_dc_1.html Saturday March 10 6:31 PM ET Princess Diana Could Have Been Saved, Says Medic LONDON (Reuters) - A leading heart surgeon has said that Britain's Princess Diana could have been saved if she had been rushed to hospital quicker. Christian Barnard, who was a friend of the Princess of Wales, writes in a new book that she could have been saved if she had reached hospital within 10 minutes of the 1997 high-speed car crash in Paris, the Sunday Telegraph said. ``My opinion is that they made a mistake not rushing her to hospital quicker because her bleeding could only be stopped by surgery,'' said pioneering surgeon Barnard in his book ``50 Ways To A Healthy Heart,'' which is to be published in May. ``I understand they spent up to an hour at the scene of the accident,'' he said. Barnard, based in South Africa, said according to the autopsy Diana died of internal bleeding as the result of injury to the pulmonary vein. He said such an injury would not lead to rapid loss of blood. ``What I want to say here is, that, if Princess Diana had been brought to hospital within 10 minutes of the accident -- something which should easily have been possible -- and once there, had been cared for properly, she could have survived.'' Diana's companion Dodi Al Fayed and their driver Henri Paul also died in the crash. Bodyguard Trevor Rees-Jones survived. The Telegraph quoted a French doctor, who arrived quickly on the scene as he had been traveling in the opposite direction at the time of the crash, as saying Diana was in the best shape of the four. Frederic Maillez said Diana had ``looked pretty fine...I thought this woman had a chance.''An official French inquiry found that the accident was the result of ``loss of control,'' the speed of the vehicle and alcohol.
Re: [CTRL] EWAR/MC: Environmental war
-Caveat Lector- From Mind Control-L: RE: EWAR/MC: Environmental war Mar 10, 2001 16:11 PST There is not a shred of scientific evidence presented below for these speculations. In my opinion, this kind of letter, because it lacks any scientific documentation and would sound like a paranoid rant to conventional scientists, increases the likelihood that officials will dismiss any future serious attempts to study these phenomena. I'd be interested, however, in hearing what Senator Lieberman's science advisors think of these speculations. Hi All - Fortunately the poster's opinions are not driving public interest policy. If they were, the perpetrators of tectonic warfare against Seattle and Vancouver would clearly have won. We are now discussing applied environmental war research. The citizens of Vancouver, BC and Seattle, WA personally experienced an earthquake last week and it feels to a growing population here that the earthquake was a tectonic EM event. So much so that the West Coast media is now, Thank God, moving into the story for which EcoNews has served as phalanx. EcoNews original news article on the EM tectonic event references a book on the EM-tectonic environmental war scenario. The book forms the research basis for the article. Last I counted the book on which the article is based is about 100,000 words long, with numerous scientific references. Included in the news story is a link to a FREE copy of the book. In a word, the above post acts out the role here of what the Bolshevik intelligence agencies technically called "A Useful Idiot". In intelligence agency parlance, a useful idiot is a civilian who publicly defends the disinformation around a secret project, and attacks critics of the disinformation. Key is that the useful idiot act in subjective good faith. This is not the first time HAARP has been defended on MC-L. Ever since I joined MC-L, the poster vociferously attacked any analysis showing that HAARP had a mind control function. For two years he attacked any of us researchers who brought information to the list suggesting that HAARP affected the human limbic system. Fnally, when evidence emerged of a signal embedded within HAARP that did affect the limbic system, the poster relented. In the meantime two precious years of fighting HAARP had been lost, not to mention countless researchers and members of the public who had been hoodwinked. Well, speaking on behalf of those of us citizens and researchers who actually PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake and the EM transmissions that went along with it, that misleading will not happen again. To start the debate on EM tectonic warfare, please refer to the scientific research and references in EARTH CHANGES: A Spiritual Approach http://www.universebooks.com/earthchanges.html And please listen to the following radio program. Let the games begin. Thanks for reading this, Alfred Webre, VAncouver, BC = Sunday 6 PM PST - Radio program on EM pulse warfare earthquakes/climate Alfred Webre (author of EARTH CHANGES) Kathy Holt (author of CIRCLE OF HEALING) will be a live guests this Sunday 3/11/01 on host Clyde Lewis' nationally-syndicated ground Zero radio program on EM pulse warfare. Included will be a discussion of EM's role in the Seattle-Vancouver earthquake, and in environmental warfare and mass mind control (psyops), and on positive ways we can counteract EM warfare. Program Date: Sunday, March 11, 2001 Program times: Show Times 6P to 9P PST 7P to 10P MST 8P to 11P CST 9P to 12A EST 2A to 5A GMT LISTEN LIVE: http://www.broadcast.com/radio/news/kxl/ http://www.clydelewis.com/ Read a review copy of Alfred Webre's EARTH CHANGES http://www.universebooks.com/earthchanges.html = __ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness Universe Exopolitics. Vancouver, BC V6M 1V8 EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Taliban - A CIA Creation
-Caveat Lector- http://128.121.216.19/szamuely/sz030901.html March 9, 2001 Bombs Over Buddha There is something hilarious about the worldwide horror at the Talibans proposal to destroy Afghanistans Buddhist statues, including the two giant Buddhas in the central Bamiyan province. The Bamiyan statues date back to the centuries of Buddhist rule that preceded the arrival of Islam in the ninth century AD. Despite the protests, the Taliban are in no mood to hang about. Using anti-aircraft weapons, tanks and explosives, they have already destroyed large parts of the figures. Western leaders issued statements laced with piety and sanctimony. Up until two weeks ago none of them had even known that there were Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Now they are all aficionados of museums. However, the last thing they want to be caught doing is expressing hostility towards Islam. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher called the ancient statues "an important part of the worlds cultural legacy and the cultural heritage of Afghanistan . The United States joins...other governments in urging a halt to the destruction by the Taliban of a significant aspect of Afghans cultural heritage." Following their meeting in Trieste, Italy, the environment ministers of the G-8 group of industrialized nations issued this gaseous statement: "Mindful that the diversity of natural and human systems is at the core of sustainable development, we express dismay and shock at reports of the edict of the Taliban leadership." "Afghanistans rich cultural heritage," the statement went on, "is of vital importance not only to the people of Afghanistan but also to the world as a whole." The European Union too got into the act. In a statement issued in Pakistan by Sweden, the EU condemned the destruction: "The Presidency of the European Union strongly condemns this crime against the worlds common heritage and deeply regrets that it has taken place in the name of one of the worlds important religions." German Culture Minister Julian Nida-Ruemelin inevitably compared the destruction of the statues to the burning of books by the Nazis. "This is about a piece of global cultural heritage which the rest of the world cannot be indifferent to" he declaimed. UNESCO sent an emissary to Kabul to negotiate a "solution" with the Taliban. New Yorks Metropolitan Museum of Art offered to pay to have the giant Buddhas removed from the country. There has also been a proposal to build a giant wall in front of the statues so as to hide them from Islamic eyes. But Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil dismissed these ideas. "We have all sorts of possibilities to maintain them or to keep them out of sight," he explained, "Our verdict wants their annihilation." His hands were tied, he explained. Any alternative to the destruction would fail to satisfy Islamic law: "Our decree is based on Islamic orders and we will spare no pre-Islamic or post-Islamic era statues." "Worlds cultural legacy," "global cultural heritage," "diversity of natural and human systems," "one of the worlds important religions" such grandiloquent phrases roll easily off the tongues of the guardians of the New World Order. Or at least occasionally they do. For the destruction of the Buddhist statues is hardly the first instance in recent times of Islamic intolerance towards other religions. For at least two years, Albanian Moslems have waged a systematic campaign to annihilate the "rich cultural heritage" to use the appropriate phrase of the Eastern Orthodox Church in Kosovo. This has taken place while the province has been under military occupation by NATO and under the nominal jurisdiction of the United Nations. Yet this destruction has evoked very little protest and virtually no condemnation. The Met has not offered to pony up some cash to save precious cultural artifacts. UNESCO has not rushed an emissary over to Pristina to undertake urgent negotiations with the KLA. The loss of Europes Christian heritage clearly is a matter of very little importance. Here is a tiny sample of the devastation wrought by this reign of Islamic terror (rather nearer to home than Afghanistan): The Monastery of the Holy Trinity, built in the 14th century, housed a valuable collection of manuscripts from 14th to 18th centuries. It was plundered, burnt and then leveled to the ground by explosives. The medieval Monastery of St. Mark of Korisa, built in 1467 with a single-nave, a rectangular foundation and a preserved fragment of the original, ancient fresco, housed a major book collection. It was robbed and burnt prior to having been completely destroyed by explosives. The Monastery of St. Archangel Gabriel, built in the 14th century, had a rectangular foundation, a semi-round apse and a semi-cylindrical vault. A number of the 14th century liturgical vessels were kept in the church. The monastery was first looted and then set on fire. Finally, it was completely destroyed by
[CTRL] Whale Researcher Says Navy's New Sonar Can Kill
-Caveat Lector- Whale Researcher Says Navy's New Sonar Can Kill By Christopher Dunagan The Sun of Bremerton, WA 2001 Scripps Howard News Service 3-9-1 Website to visit: http://www.manyrooms.net/bahamas.html BREMERTON, Washington - Oceans off the Bahamas seem lonelier this winter as whale researchers scan the water for the beaked whales they have been studying for years, a scientist says. At least some of the whales were caught in a Navy exercise nearly a year ago, and now Ken Balcomb fears many whales were killed by sonar. Balcomb, who divides his time between Washington state's San Juan Islands and the Bahamas, has spent years identifying beaked whales. Now, the only ones he sees are strangers - probably visitors from other areas. Balcomb, of the Center for Whale Research, is normally a reserved and cautious scientist. Recently, he sent a strongly worded letter to the Navy warning that the proposed deployment of a new low-frequency sonar system could have devastating effects on whales throughout the world. The Navy has acknowledged that sonar may have contributed to the deaths of seven whales in the Bahamas. The whales beached themselves last March 15 during an exercise involving five ships. A natural phenomenon, called a "surface duct," may have transmitted greater volumes of sound to lower depths, according to a report. The National Marine Fisheries Service suggested that the whales may have become disoriented by the sound and died due to beaching. Balcomb is calling for better analysis. "Considering the observed damage to the whales that stranded and died and the short time period between stranding and death, the NMFS statement that the whales died from stranding is patently absurd," Balcomb said in his letter. "The whales that we observed swimming toward shore and stranding were only the temporary survivors of an acoustic holocaust that can be likened to fishing with dynamite." Balcomb contends the Navy has not adequately considered how loud noise from sonar may resonate within air chambers located in the whales' skulls. "The killing is largely due to resonance phenomena in the whales' cranial air spaces that are tearing apart delicate tissues around the brain and ears," Balcomb said in his letter. "This is an entirely separate issue from auditory thresholds and traumas that the Navy has fixated upon." Balcomb's letter uses mathematical equations to describe the relationship between the size of air spaces and the resulting resonance. He also questions whether the Navy has proposed adequate precautions with its new low-frequency sonar, which he says can create resonance frequencies. "The Navy has consistently tried to de-link the low-frequency active sonar with the normal sonar," he said. "If you really investigate resonance, you will see there is a common denominator." Joe Johnson, who leads a team studying the environmental impacts of low-frequency sonar, said laboratory studies were done to measure resonance effects on rats, mice and guinea pigs. It takes a fairly steady tone to create resonance, he said.
[CTRL] Is Greenspan Fighting Phantom Recession?
-Caveat Lector- Saturday March 10 5:21 PM ET Is Greenspan Fighting Phantom Recession? By Pierre Belec NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly two years ago, Alan Greenspan (news - web sites) began raising interest rates to head off ``inflation'' and now he's chopping away at rates to head off ``recession.'' As it turned out, he was fighting phantom inflation and people are wondering if he is now combating a phantom recession. One expert says the Federal Reserve (news - web sites) chairman has gotten it wrong before and he may be missing the bull's-eye, again. ``First, the Fed was raising rates to fight inflation, which did not exist and now it is lowering rates to fight a recession, which we feel does not exist,'' says Penny Russell, economist at H. C. Wainwright Co., Economics Inc. While the Fed was raising interest rates to a 10-year high between 1999 and 2000, the Consumer Price Index (news - web sites), which tracks inflation at the retail level, edged up less than 1.5 percentage points and the core rate that excludes volatile food and energy prices went up even less. Greenspan's tight money policy succeeded too well as the economy's growth has nearly stalled. In January this year, the central bank launched a bold move: preemptive rate cuts for fear that the six interest-rate hikes had put the economy at risk of recession. Smart move? No, says Russell, dismissing the Fed's assurance that it can figure out to the nth degree when the economy is facing a killer problem, like a recession. ``What's happening is that we have been through an economic period when things were so extraordinary and when they go back to just ordinary, people seem to be more concerned than they should,'' Russell says. DID GREENSPAN's RATE HIKES CHOKE ECONOMY? ``So it would appear,'' says Russell. ``But the truth is that no one at the Fed - - not even its illustrious chairman -- is capable of managing a large and complex economy like the U.S. or of knowing just when to raise and when to lower interest rates to keep growth within a predesignated range.'' Greenspan, who worried that the stock market was too high-priced in 1999, went on a rate-raising spree instead of allowing Wall Street to correct its excess in its own sweet time. The result of this hands-on money policy: the rapid destruction of $3 trillion in stock market wealth and disillusioned households that caused consumer confidence to plunge. Falling stock prices made a lot of Americans feel poor because many of them looked at the market during the great boom years between 1995 and 1999 as a savings account with tremendously good yields. The market's monster reversal, which sent the Nasdaq down an eye- popping 55 percent from its high during a 12-month period, shook consumer confidence in a New York minute. The reason that the apprehension spread so fast was because more than 50 percent of U.S. households have a stake in the stock market through retirement accounts. Russell favors benign neglect and monetary neutrality rather than the Fed's jockeying, which she says destabilizes both the economy and stock market. ``Now, if the Fed could be persuaded to leave rates alone and let all the ripples die out, there is no reason that the economy could not get back on the fast track,'' she says. ''Noninterference would be even more stimulative than a tax cut.'' Greenspan and his fellow bankers have been known to fumble the ball. They misread the handwriting on the wall in 1990-91 when a recession was slamming the economy and fell asleep at the wheel. So the Fed, which is now racing to keep the economy from tipping into recession, is faced with a dilemma on whether to cut interest rates for a third time this year. It has made two cuts each of 50 basis points in January after boosting rates by 175 basis points from June 1999 to May 2000. Russell says that if interest rates had been left alone in 1999-2000, the economy would have slowed down by itself, ``gently not abruptly and we would have been enjoying higher growth than we are now.'' The betting is that the Fed again will lower by 50 basis points at its March 20 policy-setting meeting. Recession Isn'T In The Cards Even the numbers crunchers say that an old reliable measuring stick -- the nation's money supply, also known as M2 -- is not emitting signals of a recession. M2 has jumped at an annual rate of more than 10 percent over the last three months, which means the Fed is printing more money to pump up the softening economy. ``Since the M2 series began in 1959, the U.S. economy has never entered a recession with the real M2 growth this high,'' says Paul Kasriel, head of economic research at Northern Trust Co. ``The additional 50 basis points of cuts we are forecasting to occur by March 20 would be expected to boost nominal M2 growth still more.'' Russell says the Fed appears to be focusing too much on momentary changes in the economy. ``The central bank is overreacting to what is happening in the economy,'' she
[CTRL] MC:Mass Mind Control in the Present-Day U.S. -- The big picture
-Caveat Lector- From Newshawk: Mass Mind Control in the Present-Day U.S. -- The big picture There are a number of interlocking systems, technologies and techniques which are currently being deployed against the citizens of the United States of America by certain segments of our national government. First, there are literally COUNTLESS mind-control projects and sub-projects in operation at this time which target SPECIFIC subjects/victims in a variety of ways; using one or more of a number of technologies such as drugs, (ritual) psycho-sexual abuse, a vast panoply of different EM/RF mind control technologies, repetitive conditioning, hypnotic trance induction, and so on and on and on. Reliable reports from MANY different sources indicate that as many as TEN MILLION individuals many be ACTIVE subjects/victims of these kinds of mind control activities, and huge quantities of hard documentation on a great many of these projects DOES exist. However, in addition to these kinds of mind control operations, there are ALSO mind control and mind manipulation activities that target MASSES of people in large geographical regions at the same time. Indeed, there is VERY strong evidence that the operators of HAARP for example, have ever since HAARP's earliest days intended that it be used for, among many other things, GLOBAL mind control. There is in FACT much evidence to show that HAARP is NOW being used for just such utterly evil purposes by the United States federal government. Of course, there are many other EM/RF technologies and systems which are, or may be, applied to mass-scale mind, mood, thought and consciousness control/manipulation operations: such as the nationwide "GWEN" (Ground Wave Emergency Network) system, certain ELF and ULF transmitter systems, and so on (such as your TV set, even IF it's turned OFF!) Another way to manipulate and "regulate" the minds and consciousness of a mass of people at a VERY basic, fundamental level is to CONTROL the population's PRIMARY sources of INFORMATION. This is one of the MOST powerful ways shape the collective consciousness of the public, and it is CLEAR that many mass media outlets in the United States are both willingly and un-wittingly aiding and abetting the manipulation of our minds by the government, and are assisting the FedGov in carrying out many social-engineering agendas. The mass media's treatment of school shooting incidents, for instance, plays DIRECTLY and TOTALLY into the schemes of those who deployed the mind-controlled killers to carry out these shootings, in a grand plan to shut down our Constitution's 2nd Amendment, among other things. Moreover, very carefully designed CONDITIONING programs and tactics have been brought to bear against nearly EVERY segment of society; disseminated throughout the nation and the world by mass media and entertainment industries and corporations; and imbedded in ALL forms of so-called entertainment at this point, such as movies, TV shows, video and computer games ESPECIALLY, some pop music, and so on. This condition of constant, relentless bombardment with grotesquely violent imagery, which the general population, ESPECIALLY its younger members, is inundated with by nearly ALL forms of popular contemporary entertainment and sources of "information", is indeed directly derived from those mind-conditioning programs and systems developed at Fort Detrick (and other similar locations). San Diego shooter Charles Williams' father worked at the Army's Fort Detrick facility for THIRTEEN YEARS. Specifically, indoctrination/conditioning programs were developed at Fort Detrick in which subjects were repeatedly, continually and continuously immersed in virtual reality-type video/computer "games" of extreme and GRAPHIC brutality, for long stretches of time and over an extended time frame. This kind of psychological assault proved very effective in rapidly obliterating subjects' ethical and moral values and cultural norms with regard to violence, brutality, killing and so on. These systems were perfected, applied to the brainwashing and conditioning of members of the U.S. military and also turned over to the intelligence sectors for other applications. The intelligence sector, in turn, DELIBERATELY and successfully undertook to have this same kind of HIGHLY negative, destructive and effective conditioning applied to SOCIETY AS A WHOLE, via mass conditioning of our consciousness through the entertainment and information industries, as noted. One OTHER method of mass mind control/manipulation/conditioning which is NOW being utilized MORE and MORE -- ESPECIALLY against the most vulnerable members of our society, our CHILDREN -- is the highly-reprehensible/questionable and increasingly common MANDATED DRUGGING of ever-growing numbers of children through hugely intrusive, invasive, ill-advised, psychologically unpredictable and often destructive
[CTRL] It is time to fight back
-Caveat Lector- radman says: democrats fight back? yeah right!! when pigs flythey're still busy beating up on Nader...sheesh.. and considering Mary F. Berry (the Pacifica demoness) is at point on the Civil Rights, (with Ashcroft now sticking his nose in) it looks like the voting charades will continue indefinitely...I don't expect anything except an increased measure of control when they standardize the voting systems...as the vestiges of legitimacy crumble, the measures of control become more forceful...we really are living in rad times... [p.s.-- Does anybody know what Al Franken said or did?] Online Journal - http://www.onlinejournal.com 03-11-01: It is time to fight back By Jerry Fees March 11, 2001-Thank you Al Franken. It's about damn time we woke up and started using the word liar. Why is it that the Republicans and their media mouthpieces can make up their facts as they go and continuously get away with it? (Bill O'Reilly can claim he's not a Republican but we know better and we sure as hell won't claim him.) Why is it that Herr Goebbels', . . . I mean Rove's, propaganda machine runs unchecked spitting out one distortion after another? I'll tell you why. It's because we've been acting like a bunch of scared children, afraid we're going to appear shrill and be called sore losers. That's what they're saying anyway so what the heck, let's fight back! As much as I respect Al Gore for his dignity and grace under fire, he had no business allowing Bush and that bunch of self-righteous heathens to talk to him like they did. The audacity of any one of that thieving, lying Bush clan to call Gore, or anyone else for that matter, a liar. They have no shame. Al took the high road and look at the mess it left us in. We need to forget this whole civility charade and get on with the program. It's only 21 months till the 2002 election and we've got work to do. I saw that moron Hannity on TV last night, and he and one of his GOP puppets, Bill Dal Col, (they call this guy a Republican strategist, I call him a liar) were talking about the economy. Col made the observation that we have a 7 trillion dollar economy with a 3.5 trillion dollar debt. What happened to the other 2.1 trillion dollars of debt? Look it up for yourselves. It would appear that, for the sake of political expediency, the Republican strategists (see liars) want to confuse the public by separating the amount of debt held in private hands overseas and in central banks ($3.5 trillion) from the amount owed to the Social Security, Medicare and other trust funds ($2.1 trillion). The last time the national debt was $3.5 trillion was 1991. Hannity then went on to cry crocodile tears about government spending. The Republicans are up to their collective ears in pork and he knows it. They went on a spending spree last year (a record $284 billion in non-defense spending) that forever ended their right to call themselves conservatives. Conservative about what? Certainly not in the use of lies. Hannity can't hardly open his mouth that he doesn't tell a lie. The reason I even mention these guys is that they're a microcosm of the problem as a whole. Lies followed by misdirection and what do we do about it? Nothing! Turn the other cheek. That's getting old real fast and it just plays into their hands. We have absolutely nothing to gain from this tactic. Do you think we'll win votes this way? We already have enough votes if we can just get them counted. It's in our best interest to fight back and call them liars. Let's just do it! Bush proposes a budget with a 4 percent rate of increase, knowing full well the Congress will have to spend more than that. Ask Pete Domenici. He's already acknowledged it won't be enough. Of course it won't be enough. As dumb as Bush is, he knew what he was doing. Now he can go to the people and point out what the evil Congress is doing, especially those mean old tax and spend Democrats trying to wreck the economy by funding those wretched social programs. Liar, liar, liar. My Grandma Rohrscheib would wash his mouth out with soap. If a little old lady with a southern accent shows up in Washington looking for W with some Irish Spring in her hand, I hope he gets what he's got coming. Get with it Tom, Dick and the rest of you spineless wimps. We are your people and we demand you go after these guys. The Black Congressional Caucus and Terry McAuliffe look to me to be the only ones left that still have their guts. I have no idea why we as a party have decided to get sucked into this civility ploy when it is such a transparent ruse. I do know this though, if we continue to lie down for Rove and his propaganda machine, we will pay for it. We can ride this out together but our elected officials are going to have to be a lot more plain spoken and we're all going to have to follow Al Franken's example. Seek out a specific case of Republican lies, investigate it and
