Re: [CTRL] Death Tourism - Euthanasia Holidays

2001-11-25 Thread c.

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as the moderator at boohoo.demon.co.uk i take all complaints of harrasssment
seriously. my advice is to look into ctrl archives (or your own outbox) and
examine the instances of harrassment this c. fellow has made against you
and what nature they are. i think you may find that using your own criteria
for harrassment that you are in no position to cry out about people
harrassing you, as you can dish it out- in spoons- but cannot take it
yourself. fucking twat.
yours
c.

FYI- i am doing a search on filthy name instances on the ctrl archives.
interesting to see the results, uh? before you take this to court, y'know?
might be interesting?
hardy fucking har har.

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From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Death Tourism - Euthanasia Holidays


 This man has insulted me for the last time but the filthy names he calls
 I wante stopped immediately.

 Do I have to get an attorney to stop this harassment?



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[CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan



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http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml

QUESTIONABLE TIES
Tracking bin Laden's money flow leads back to Midland, Texas
by Wayne Madsen

On September 24, President George W. Bush appeared at a press conference in
the White House Rose Garden to announce a crackdown on the financial
networks of terrorists and those who support them. ³U.S. banks that have
assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts,² Bush
declared. ³And U.S. citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing
business with them.²

But the president, who is now enjoying an astounding 92 percent approval
rating, hasn¹t always practiced what he is now preaching: Bush¹s own
businesses were once tied to financial figures in Saudi Arabia who currently
support bin Laden.

In 1979, Bush¹s first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from
James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors,
Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath
was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the
wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden.
It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came
directly from Salem bin Laden. In a statement issued shortly after the
September 11 attacks, the White House vehemently denied the connection,
insisting that Bath invested his own money, not Salem bin Laden¹s, in
Arbusto.

In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then
acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented
Saudi interests. In fact, Bath has extensive ties, both to the bin Laden
family and major players in the scandal-ridden Bank of Commerce and Credit
International (BCCI) who have gone on to fund Osama bin Laden. BCCI
defrauded depositors of $10 billion in the ¹80s in what has been called the
³largest bank fraud in world financial history² by former Manhattan District
Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During the ¹80s, BCCI also acted as a main
conduit for laundering money intended for clandestine CIA activities,
ranging from financial support to the Afghan mujahedin to paying
intermediaries in the Iran-Contra affair.

When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, powerful Saudi Arabian banker and BCCI
principal Khalid bin Mahfouz inherited his interests in Houston. Bath ran a
business for bin Mahfouz in Houston and joined a partnership with bin
Mahfouz and Gaith Pharaon, BCCI¹s frontman in Houston¹s Main Bank.

The Arbusto deal wasn¹t the last time Bush looked to highly questionable
sources to invest in his oil dealings. After several incarnations, Arbusto
emerged in 1986 as Harken Energy Corporation. When Harken ran into trouble a
year later, Saudi Sheik Abdullah Taha Bakhsh purchased a 17.6 percent stake
in the company. Bakhsh was a business partner with Pharaon in Saudi Arabia;
his banker there just happened to be bin Mahfouz.

Though Bush told the Wall Street Journal he had ³no idea² BCCI was involved
in Harken¹s financial dealings, the network of connections between Bush and
BCCI is so extensive that the Journal concluded their investigation of the
matter in 1991 by stating: ³The number of BCCI-connected people who had
dealings with Harken‹all since George W. Bush came on board‹raises the
question of whether they mask an effort to cozy up to a presidential son.²
Or even the president: Bath finally came under investigation by the FBI in
1992 for his Saudi business relationships, accused of funneling Saudi money
through Houston in order to influence the foreign policies of the Reagan and
first Bush administrations.

Worst of all, bin Mahfouz allegedly has been financing the bin Laden
terrorist network‹making Bush a U.S. citizen who has done business with
those who finance and support terrorists. According to USA Today, bin
Mahfouz and other Saudis attempted to transfer $3 million to various bin
Laden front operations in Saudi Arabia in 1999. ABC News reported the same
year that Saudi officials stopped bin Mahfouz from contributing money
directly to bin Laden. (Bin Mahfouz¹s sister is also a wife of Osama bin
Laden, a fact that former CIA Director James Woolsey revealed in 1998 Senate
testimony.)

When President Bush announced he is hot on the trail of the money used over
the years to finance terrorism, he must realize that trail ultimately leads
not only to Saudi Arabia, but to some of the same financiers who originally
helped propel him into the oil business and later the White House. The ties
between bin Laden and the White House may be much closer than he is willing
to acknowledge. 


Wayne Madsen, an investigative journalist based in Washington, is the author
of Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa 1993-1999.


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[CTRL] Fwd: Out of Office AutoReply: [CTRL] This is C.@boo.hoo.demon.co.uk

2001-11-25 Thread Saba

So here is little C.s boo hoo demon co. UK name?

his real name?

Notice his Cannonball Express - looks like he is into a little more
than just the Casino Sales he hustles onto his web site?

So c. now that I understand you, and see what and who you are - well,
goodnight sweetie - New Zealand - Hey just bought 4 beautiful huge
sheepskin rungs from up there.

So goodnight Alan Howard @compuerland.co.NW.whoever you
are...say hello to your little fairy friends for me.

Saba


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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--- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush
  Tracking bin Laden's money flow leads back
  to Midland, Texas.
  The ties between bin Laden and the White House
  may be much closer than he (Bush) is willing
  to acknowledge.
_
Nakano comments:
Bin Laden money helped finance Bush's Arbusto Oil
Company in Midland and later Harken Oil in Houston.
Osama's older brother, Salem bin Laden was killed in
a Texas plane crash.
Another brother, Hasama, was on the Board of Directors
of Iridium, a subsidiary of General Electric. (In an
odd turn of events, only Iridium satellite phones
worked in New York immediately after the attacks of
9-11. Regular phones were out of commission in
lower Manhattan).
The Bin Laden family owns an airport located about
26 miles south of Houston.
The President's father, former President George H.W.
Bush in a Senior Executive of the Carlyle Group.
The Bin Laden Company is a client of the Carlyle
Group. The Wall Street Journal has called this a
serious conflict of interest and has urged the
President to demand his father resign from Carlyle.
The FBI had an ongoing investigation into the
U.S. connections of the Bin Laden family until
it was ordered to halt the investigation by the
present Bush administration.
Yesyou could say there are
Questionable Connections.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Out of Office AutoReply: [CTRL] This is C.@boo.hoo.demon.co.uk

2001-11-25 Thread c.

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well- you areinteresting me now saba!

but tell me why you think this person is me- if you have already established
that i am in the UK- posting the boohoo website is easy- i sent it to you
thru ctrl earlier this year- it is no secret. but i think you have lost it
slightly thinking that this alan chap is me. as i am quite definately in the
UK and have no idea who he is.

and anyway- what are you trying to establish?


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From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Out of Office AutoReply: [CTRL] This is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 So here is little C.s boo hoo demon co. UK name?

 his real name?

 Notice his Cannonball Express - looks like he is into a little more
 than just the Casino Sales he hustles onto his web site?

 So c. now that I understand you, and see what and who you are - well,
 goodnight sweetie - New Zealand - Hey just bought 4 beautiful huge
 sheepskin rungs from up there.

 So goodnight Alan Howard @compuerland.co.NW.whoever you
 are...say hello to your little fairy friends for me.

 Saba



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[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Fwd: The Spirit - Journal of Alan Howard

2001-11-25 Thread Saba


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Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your life - what no date
with a girl for FIVE YEARS? 

What kind of a scam you running here - but really FIVE YEARS?   I think
from looking at that one picture - that was you wasn't it - I have
figured our your problem - you, are in love with yourself?

Now the way to speak to women, I can imagine how very unpopular you were
but now this Spiritual thing - and a Casino operating to boot?   Is this
why you are so well, touchy pooh, when I mention Larry Flynt, voyuerism,
etc etc etc...

So you go your little merry way - but five yers with no girl what ever
did you do?   Sit and look in the mirror in the black lights?

You interested in conspiracy?   Just wondered...

Saba

Here is c.'s journal.

The Spirit    Journal    Images    What   
Who    Where    Why    Contact Me    Guestbook
 The Journal of Alan Howard 
 
Friday - 16th November 2001 - 9:30pm
Reflections on the past...
Over the past week, I've been re-reading this journal, and I've gained
some fascinating insights.  It's coming up to the 3-year anniversary
for this journal, and its seen some significant changes over those
years.  Changes in the formatting of the website and the layout, and
changes in my life and what's important to me.  Here's a rundown of
those changes, as the years and months have gone by.
November 1998.  The journal begins.  I was lonely and needy for the
company of women.  I went out on a lot of dates, and got excited about
every woman who gave me some attention.  I also got crushed after
being dumped after only one date - sometimes without even going on any
date at all!
June  1999.  After 5 years without a girlfriend, I found myself in a
relationship with Darlene.  The drought had broken!  This was a very
happy and creative time for me, being in an exciting and magical 'love
story'.
January 2000.  The magic had gone, and I was alone again.  Sad and
grieving, I ended up looking outside of myself at those around me and
gained solace in the attention of others again.
April 2000.  Michelle entered my life and I began walking down a path
I could never have imagined, where I'd end up leaving the country I
loved and living in another (New Zealand).
June 2000.  I stepped boldly out on that new path, unsure and a little
afraid, but never hesitant.  I moved to NZ and began a new life away
from my country and my friends.  I was excited about the changes, and
about this new woman in my life.
July 2000.  I got the best job of my entire life, working for an IT
support organisation (Computerland) that looked after corporate clients.
November 2000.  The relationship with Michelle had ended, and there
was a time of grieving.  But not enough time.  I tried to be friends
with this woman who had meant so much to me, but who I discovered I
couldn't live with.
January 2001.  Came back from England where I'd gone for a holiday
with Michelle.  Spent the next two months trying to deal with more
stress than I'd ever experienced, as Michelle spent all her energy
trying to get me to come back to her.  She eventually moved back to
England in April.
April 2001.  Thinking that I had dealt with my relationship issues, I
involved myself in another relationship with Kylie.  
June 2001.  The relationship with Kylie ended, forcing me to
reconsider my thoughts on what I'd actually dealt with in the past.
November 2001.  After 5 months of choosing to be alone and doing
extensive soul-searching, I am in a place of stability and
contentment.  Seeing and understanding the part I had in the downfall
of my past relationships has been enlightening.  I was also able to
see those areas that I hadn't dealt with in the past, which were the
subsequent cause of further relationship problems.  Now there isn't a
sense of frantic activity about me anymore, inside my mind and in what I
radiate.  I'm not hung up on the need to have the attention or love of
a woman, and I can actually be friends with those women in my life,
rather than hope for something more.  
The changes that I've seen in myself - in this website - has been going
from need and attachment, to stability and even detachment (in terms of
not being attached to the idea of being with a woman).  I feel more
relaxed and in control of myself and my destiny.  I feel more
capable.  It's just awesome!
Well, I'm going to write another article for The Spirit...  This one
was inspired from a conversation last night with a friend.  Can you
accept who you are?
previous
next
Subscribe to The Spirit Community
(receive journal updates via email, chat with other subscribers, and
read articles!)
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[CTRL] THE SECRET EMPIRE SERIES

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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   It includes a cast of thousands extending back to biblical times when
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[CTRL] EMPIRE OF CONSPIRACY - The Culture of Paranoia in Postwar America

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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EMPIRE OF CONSPIRACY
The Culture of Paranoia in Postwar America


Timothy Melley
Why, Timothy Melley asks, have paranoia and conspiracy theory become such
prominent features of postwar American culture? In Empire of Conspiracy,
Melley explores the recent growth of anxieties about thought-control,
assassination, political indoctrination, stalking, surveillance, and
corporate and government plots. At the heart of these developments, he
believes, lies a widespread sense of crisis in the way Americans think about
human autonomy and individuality. Nothing reveals this crisis more than the
remarkably consistent form of expression that Melley calls agency panic--an
intense fear that individuals can be shaped or controlled by powerful
external forces. Drawing on a broad range of forms that manifest this
fear--including fiction, film, television, sociology, political writing,
self-help literature, and cultural theory--Melley provides a new
understanding of the relation between postwar American literature, popular
culture, and cultural theory.
Empire of Conspiracy offers insightful new readings of texts ranging from
Joseph Heller's Catch-22 to the Unabomber Manifesto, from Vance Packard's
Hidden Persuaders to recent addiction discourse, and from the stalker
novels of Margaret Atwood and Diane Johnson to the conspiracy fictions of
Thomas Pynchon, William Burroughs, Don DeLillo, and Kathy Acker. Throughout,
Melley finds recurrent anxieties about the power of large organizations to
control human beings. These fears, he contends, indicate the continuing
appeal of a form of individualism that is no longer wholly accurate or
useful, but that still underpins a national fantasy of freedom from social
control.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] Bolivia Suspends Coca Eradication; Talks Begin

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan



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A Narco News Global Alert

Dear Colleagues,

The headlines shout from our América...

-- Bolivia Suspends Coca Eradication

-- Historic Talks Begin but US Embassy is Enraged

...and yet the US media, which claims to have rediscovered foreign news
after September 11th, has failed to report any of the hard news of the
immediate history underway in the hemisphere:

-- National Coca Summit Begins Today, Mediated by the Catholic Church

-- Popular protests and blockades forced the government to suspend
eradication and withdraw 4,000 troops from the Chapare region

-- US Embassy opposes the suspension; Bush calls Bolivian president to
Washington woodshed; presidents will meet on December 6th

-- Unrest in the Military: Colonel accuses US Embassy of forming
paramilitary mercenaries with the most racist commanders to bypass
Bolivian Army because it is 90 percent indigenous

-- Congressman Evo Morales: Bolivian Law 1008 specifically allows a cato of
coca (a 40 by 40 meter garden) per family in the Chapare
Government hardliners insist on resuming eradication on Wednesday,
regardless of the results of the talks

-- Indigenous leader El Mallku threatens Christmas Blockades, to surround
the capital of La Paz

-- Toll of 53 deaths, 500 wounded, due to US-imposed anti-coca policy

Read a summary of these stories plus today's press briefing of
translations from the Bolivian media:

http://www.narconews.com/

from somewhere in a country called América,

Al Giordano
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Fwd: The Spirit - Journal of Alan Howard

2001-11-25 Thread Xxx Yyy

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Saba, has this site's content moved from Conspiracy Theory Research List to
Love Advice to the Masses?  Should we all start sending in our pics and bios?

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[CTRL] Fwd: FEAR: Fwd: Here's an interesting article from emperors-clothes.com!

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan



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[CTRL] Editorial Board of Emperor's Clothes

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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Nico Varkevisser, Editor
Jared Israel, Editor-in-Chief

Christopher Black
Chris Black is a political lawyer.He defends those who have been unjustly
attacked as part of the geopolitical machinations of Great Powers. Chris
lives in Toronto, Canada, but he spends much of his time away from home. He
was part of the group of lawyers who, in the fall of 1999, brought War Crimes
charges against leaders of the NATO countries for the murderous terror
bombing of Yugoslavia, from the end of March until June, 1999. These charges
were brought before the ICTY - the 'The Hague Tribunal' - which demonstrated
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Chris is the Chairman of the Legal Committee of the International Committee
to Defend Slobodan Milosevic. He has done much work since President Milosevic
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The Hague and the Rwanda 'Tribunals', among other issues.
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moved to Cape Cod to be a boat builder, which he was for five years; now he
works as a house carpenter. He holds an M.A. in English from the University
of Minnesota, where he taught writing. He is active in the Cape Cod Coalition
against Iraq Sanctions and the Boston Committee for Peace and Human Rights.
He became politically active in the '60's opposing the U.S. war against
Vietnam. He has spent the last ten years exposing the environmental damage
the U.S. military has caused by dumping solvents and fuels at the
Massachusetts Military Reservation on Cape Cod.
Richard Hugus edits articles for style and clarity and writes on various
subjects for Emperor's Clothes.
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I was born in Youngstown, Ohio on November 4, 1952. Attended an anti-war
demonstration for the first time in 1969, against Vietnam War. Graduated from
Northeastern Illinois University with a Masters in Literature. Spent over
twenty years studying literature, especially French and Russian. Taught
English at two universities in Chicago. Worked in electoral politics from
1976 to 1987, and again in 2000. Managed two state representative and one
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1987.
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C'est moi. C'est tout.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Fwd: The Spirit - Journal of Alan Howard

2001-11-25 Thread Saba

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Well you know somehow I have a feeling if we got into that we would find
a Love For Sale clients in no time.

Then next thing SEX SLAVES

Matter dropped.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Fwd: The Spirit - Journal of Alan Howard

2001-11-25 Thread c.

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again, why do you think he is me?

matter dropped cause you are full of shit, as ever?

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 Well you know somehow I have a feeling if we got into that we would find
 a Love For Sale clients in no time.

 Then next thing SEX SLAVES

 Matter dropped.

 Saba

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[CTRL] Saba, please, please, please . . .

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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Let's not continue to bicker and banter about such silly things.

Om
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Saba

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Nakano, Papa Bush resigned from this Carlyle group sometime ago.

Biggest conspiracy since JFK is the demolition of this World Trade
Center.right before our eyes.

Little red arrows leading to the Koran like the USS Cole?

Taxi Drivers flying jet planes?

Strange day they hit as ABC once said nobody important was aboard or
in the WTC.

Had they been true Muslims they would have taken out Israel?

Wanted Dead or Alive?   Nobody wants that guy alive - he fought the KGB
and now the CIA and KGB and Mossad in same bed - how much have we paid
in blood and how much in cash?

Saba

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[CTRL] Stoned Stone

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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@ http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/article/0,,9004-2001544189,00.html

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SUNDAY NOVEMBER 25 2001
Exercise addicts hit by Stone syndrome
BJOHN HARLOW/B LOS ANGELES
IF there is one honour that even the most desperate Hollywood
attention-seeker can live without, it is having a medical syndrome
named after her.
This is the fate that has befallen Sharon Stone, the 43- year-old
actress best known as the star of the erotic thriller Basic Instinct,
who suffered a mild stroke two months ago after training for a
charity run.
Doctors believe she may have been the victim of a phenomenon
affecting a growing number of fortysomethings whose health is
jeopardised by intense workouts that trigger strokes and heart
problems. Cases have trebled in 20 years, according to one study.
The North California Medical Association wants to call it Stone
syndrome. The proposal has gone to the American Medical Association
for approval, prompting a debate about the dangers facing so-called
YMAs (young middle-aged) if they try to recreate their youthfulness
by turning too abruptly to vigorous exercise.
Stone was taken to hospital from her San Francisco home on September 29 after 
complaining of a headache, which turned out to have been caused by a ruptured blood 
vessel near the base of her skull. She was saved by a revol
utionary new operation in which platinum tubes were inserted into her neck to create a 
bypass for blood around the damaged area.
Stone has described the cause of her brain haemorrhage as “a case of the mysteries”, 
but physicians are linking it with exercise she did the previous day for a three-mile 
charity race.
Nobody knows how widespread Stone syndrome may be among the 35m Americans in their 
forties, but one doctor claimed last week that thousands could be dying each year 
among a baby boomer generation keen “to live for ever”.

Exercise has long been associated with some element of risk. Jim Fixx, the pioneer of 
jogging, dropped dead on a run at the age of 52. However, Fixx had a heart condition 
that could have killed him regardless of whether h
e ever ran or not.
Stone syndrome applies to baby boomers who plunge into a rigorous exercise regime to 
ward off ageing. It may have contributed to the death of Douglas Adams, 49, author of 
the The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, who suff
ered a heart attack on an exercise bike in his Malibu home last May while “sweating 
through” the plot of his latest book.
Research at Ohio State University showed a 200% increase in serious exercise-related 
incidents among men and women in their forties over the past two decades.
The Ohio researchers said many YMA men were influenced by the film American Beauty, in 
which a depressed advertising salesman played by Kevin Spacey quits his job to 
concentrate on body-building.
There is no evidence that Stone went far beyond her normal routines before becoming 
ill, but these are intensive even by Californian standards.
Stone, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role as a gangster’s moll in Casino, 
spends up to three hours a day with her personal trainer. She recently added Pilates, 
a 70-year-old German stretching system devised for d
ancers, and Tae Bo, a form of aerobic martial arts, to her yoga
routines.
“People in their mid-forties have to work harder to stabilise their
body,” said Dr John DiFiori, an assistant professor of sports
medicine at the University of California Los Angeles. “They have to
find an hour a day, which is very difficult. And they must see a
doctor first — people injure themselves by starting off without any
medical guidance at all.”
A preoccupation with the gym can be costly, according to Linda
Sapadin, a New York psychologist. “People might be a lot happier if
they thought about the pleasures of being over 40, and stop holding
in their stomachs. The good news is, by the time most people reach 50
or so, they have stopped worrying about such things.”
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Re: [CTRL] ARMIES OF REPRESSION

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On 24 Nov 01, at 18:59, Agent Smiley wrote:

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Sounds like domestic terrorism to me.

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[CTRL] Theorem of Relativity: R=I+P

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians
Robin McKie, science editor
SundayNovember  25, 2001
The Observer
A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and
Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a
leading journal.
Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have
been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.
Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research
publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that
it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions
Biblical dogma.
'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature
and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the
article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-
Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'
British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't
like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place.
Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'
The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the 
article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that 
she was forced to repudiate it. The article has be
en removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to 
libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably 
to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena
has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.
Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and 
Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended 
and embarrassed'.
The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other 
Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system 
genes among people in the Middle East.
In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish 
people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the 
team's research challenges claims that Jews are a s
pecial, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.
Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be 
considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry 
between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural
 and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.
But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article 
was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the 
Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal
 Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did 
not retract the article.
Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, 
despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.
He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one 
reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to 
Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps
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'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what 
is the difference?' he said.
'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I 
was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely 
makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of
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the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'
In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, 
several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to 
protest about their heavy-handedness.
One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were 
genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have 
objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a ve
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[CTRL] The Sunny Side of Life

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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@ http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/article/0,,9004-2001544211,00.html

Only the beginning ...

 SUNDAY NOVEMBER 25 2001
 Life is sweet at Giuliani’s gay refuge
 SARAH BAXTER, NEW YORK
 HE gives two grown men a peck on the cheek before he leaves home in
 the morning and gets down to the serious business of running New York.
 Rudolph Giuliani, who has been fêted for his heroic handling of the
 terrorist attacks, has been sharing his life with a hospitable gay
 couple after troubles with his wife.

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[CTRL] VIRUS WARNING

2001-11-25 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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The message: RE: 80 Percent of The Seats Were Empty
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[CTRL] Im-Prudent-ial ?

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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From
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Patriotic Gibraltar protests at 'disloyal' handover to Spain
A referendum may lead to Tony Blair's biggest defeat as residents
brand proposals a betrayal.  Giles Tremlett reports from the Rock
Giles Tremlett
Sunday November 25, 2001
The Observer
Emilio Peire is standing outside the House of Assembly in Gibraltar's
John Mackintosh Square wrapped in a Union Jack, talking darkly about
Tony Blair, betrayal and the end of empire.
Normally Peire, a fit-looking 78-year-old with a dapper moustache,
brings his flag out only for the Queen's Birthday parade, but now it
is being brandished in protest on behalf of one of Gibraltar's myriad
political clubs, The Rock Firm War Veterans Group.
'We are not Spanish. I was with the Royal Artillery's 175 anti-
aircraft unit,' protests the old soldier, whose family arrived from
Genoa in the eighteenth century. 'Mr Blair has entered negotiations
for the transfer of sovereignty to Spain against our wishes.'
Like most Gibraltarians when they are not speaking Spanish, Peire
addresses strangers as 'sir' and talks in the quaint, precise English
that disappeared from Britain in the Sixties.
As residents of one of the last remnants of empire, he and his fellow Gibraltarians 
take being British seriously. This may be the Mediterranean, just a dozen miles from 
the north African coast, but here you can find helme
ted bobbies, bright red letter boxes, ploughman's lunches, mature cheddar cheese and a 
branch of Dorothy Perkins.
The Queen's birthday remains a public holiday and the latest memorial to their Second 
World War veterans was erected in Casemates Square two years ago.
Peire was one of several hundred angry protesters packed into the square on Friday 
night waiting to hear local politicians reply to the announcement by Foreign Secretary 
Jack Straw and his Spanish counterpart, Josep Pique
, that they planned to solve a 300-year row over the Rock's sovereignty by next summer.
Gibraltar's 30,000 people are convinced that Britain, embarrassed by the problems the 
Rock causes it within the European Union, plans to hand them over to Spain. They, in 
turn, are determined to hand Blair his most embarr
assing political defeat ever by overwhelmingly rejecting whatever deal is agreed under 
the 'Brussels process' when it is put to a local referendum.
The appearance of the elected Chief Minister of Gibraltar, Peter Caruana, provokes a 
burst of hysteria in the square. 'You can stick the Brussels process up your arse,' 
the crowd chants. Caruana tells them he has a plan f
or a new constitution so that 'the UN can delete us from their list' of colonies', and 
which would lead to 'a non-colonial relationship' with Britain.
The Chief Minister is swept away in a shiny, chauffeur-driven Rover, number plate GB1. 
Wherever he is going, it cannot be far - it rarely takes more than 10 minutes to walk 
from one spot to another in the two-and-a-quarte
r square miles of Gibraltar.
The square is suddenly a mass of shouting. 'We will all become refugees,' bawls one 
woman. 'This is like Eritrea,' screams a man. 'I wasn't born to be a prostitute,' a 
woman calls out in Spanish. 'I have the Treaty of Utr
echt here,' says a young man, reaching into his bag for a copy of the 1713 agreement 
that formalised Britain's armed takeover of the Rock.
Gibraltarians' hatred of Spain is rooted in the time, under General Franco's 
dictatorship, when the border was sealed and those with relatives in the Spanish 
border town of La Linea had to shout their family news to them
across no-man's-land on Sundays. But now that hatred is being matched by a growing 
dislike of their traditional colonial masters in Britain.
'We feel like neglected and betrayed children,' warns Harry Parody, a cab driver. 'The 
referendum is already lost.'
Peter Cumming, the only local politician prepared to voice support for some sort of 
deal with Spain, says: 'Riots are my prediction for the short-term. I hope Jack Straw 
doesn't come here for his own sake.'
It would not be the first time Gibraltarians have rioted over proposals to turn them 
into   Spaniards. When they last held a referendum on the issue, in 1967, those who 
supported a deal with Spain were dealt with violentl
y.
The chief 'dove', as the group of politicians who favoured a deal were called, had his 
yacht sunk and his car torched. Others saw their shops and businesses wrecked in a 
sudden outpouring of rage when it was discovered th
ey had visited Franco's Ministers in Madrid. Even now people refer to them as 
'traitors'.
When it came to the vote, only 44 people said they wanted to join Spain; 12,138 said 
they did not.
Caruana is married to the daughter of the man whose yacht was scuttled in 1967. A 
referendum could not be won without his support and that, so far, is being withheld. 
'There is no prospect of Gibraltar accepting any propo
sal on sovereignty,' he says.
Spain has 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 11/25/01 10:41:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nakano, Papa Bush resigned from this Carlyle group sometime ago. 

Saba is this correct? I know Binladens left but when di Georeg HW Bush leave?

Om
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Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] CARLYLE GROUP - all you want to know

2001-11-25 Thread Steve

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The site has been redesigned and all archive links removed. There are not
even any links on the front page. I wonder why? ;-|

http://thecarlylegroup.com/

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[CTRL] Responsibility in 9-11: Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers

2001-11-25 Thread Steve

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GUILTY FOR 9-11: BUSH, RUMSFELD, MYERS
Introduction  Part 1, Section 1
by Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel
[Posted 14 November 2001]
[Updated 17 November 2001]
Dedicated to the firemen of New York.
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INTRODUCTION TO SUMMARY OF EVIDENCE
Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation just 10 miles from the
Pentagon.
On 11 September there were two entire squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets
at Andrews. Their job was to protect the skies over Washington D.C. They
failed to do their job. Despite over one hour's advance warning of a
terrorist attack in progress, not a single Andrews fighter tried to protect
the city.
The FAA, NORAD and the military have cooperative procedures by which fighter
jets automatically intercept commercial aircraft under emergency conditions.
These procedures were not followed.
Air Force officials and others have tried to explain away the failures:
Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, [said]: 'The
Pentagon was simply not aware that this aircraft was coming our way, and I
doubt prior to Tuesday's event, anyone would have expected anything like that
here.'
--'Newsday,' 23 September 2001 (1)
Using information from the mass media and official Websites, we will show
that this is a lie.
Some of what happened on 9-11, such as planes flying into buildings, is
unusual. But most of what happened, such as commercial jets flying
off-course, transponder failures and possible hijackings, are common
emergencies. We will show that these emergencies are routinely handled with
expert efficiency based on clear rules.
The crash of the first hijacked jet into the World Trade Center made it clear
the United States was faced with an extraordinary situation. This should have
intensified the emergency responses of the air safety and defense systems.
The whole country was aware. For example, at 9:06 AM the NY Police broadcast:
 'This was a terrorist attack. Notify the Pentagon.'
--'Daily News' (New York) 12 September 2001 (2)
 'American Forces Press Service' reported that ordinary people working at the
Pentagon worried they could be next:
'We were watching the World Trade Center on the television,' said a Navy
officer. 'When the second plane deliberately dove into the tower, someone
said, 'The World Trade Center is one of the most recognizable symbols of
America. We're sitting in a close second.'
--'DEFENSELINK News', Sept. 13, 2001 (3)
U.S. air safety and air defense emergency systems are activated in response
to problems every day. On 9-11 they failed despite, not because of, the
extreme nature of the emergency. This could only happen if individuals in
high positions worked in a coordinated way to make them fail.
Such operatives would almost surely have failed if they tried to disrupt and
abort routine protection systems without top-level support. The failure of
the emergency systems would be noticed immediately. Moreover, given the
catastrophic nature of the attacks, the highest military authorities would be
alerted. Acting on their own, the operatives could expect that their orders
would be countermanded and that they themselves would be arrested.
The sabotage of routine protective systems, controlled by strict hierarchies,
would never have been contemplated let alone attempted absent the involvement
of the supreme U.S. military command. This includes at least U.S. President
George Bush, U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and the then-Acting
Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers.
In the following summary of evidence we will demonstrate probable cause for
charging the above-named persons with treason for complicity in the murders
of thousands of people whom they had sworn to protect.
The summary of evidence covers the following areas:
* Andrews Air Force Base and the myth of 'no available planes;'
* The air safety/air defense systems and the myth that they were not prepared;
* The actions of George Bush on 9-11 that clearly violated his positive legal
and constitutional obligations and demonstrated consciousness of guilt;
* The testimony of General Richard B. Myers at Senate hearings on his
nomination as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In these hearings, the
contents of which were reported accurately by one lone journalist, General
Myers attempted to cover up what had happened 9-11 when he was Acting
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He offered three mutually contradictory cover
stories and demonstrated 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 11/25/01 1:21:13 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Nakano, Papa Bush resigned from this Carlyle group sometime ago. 

  Saba is this correct? I know Binladens left but when di Georeg HW Bush
leave?

  That is not my understanding.  Judicial Watch put pressure for Bush to
resign, but all I heard after that was that the Carlyle Group removed/altered
its website.

Samantha

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[CTRL] NYC News Reportage

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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@ http://www.poynter.org/Terrorism/gallery/Extra1.htm

is a series of covers from major newspapers showing howthey reported
the NYC WTC extreme vandalism.  AER

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[CTRL] Fwd: More on the Anthrax Attacks

2001-11-25 Thread Samantha L.



---BeginMessage---

Same Strain of Anthrax, Which Probably Had Its Origins in a U.S. Government Lab, 
Caused the Death of the Elderly Woman in Connecticut

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10854-2001Nov24.html

Deadly Anthrax Strain Leaves a Muddy Trail

By Steve Fainaru and Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, November 25, 2001; Page A01


For more than a month, federal investigators have stalked the poisonous anthrax strain 
used in the recent terrorist attacks. The search has led to culture collections and 
research labs, to microbiologists and veterinarians, to anywhere and anyone who might 
have come in contact with the Ames strain.

But with each new case, the mysteries surrounding the distribution of Ames are only 
deepening. Once thought to be accessible to thousands of researchers, the strain now 
appears to have circulated in only a small universe of laboratories. One of its main 
distributors, according to scientists, was the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of 
Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Md., which used Ames to test vaccines 
that could protect U.S. troops in case of a biological attack.

In following the trail, investigators have had to face the possibility that Ames may 
have slipped through an informal network of scientists to Iraq, which sought the 
strain from a British biodefense institute in 1988 but whose application was rejected 
because of concerns that it would be used to manufacture biological weapons.

Understanding the distribution of the Ames strain may be critical to the government's 
search for those behind the attacks that have killed five people, infected 13 others 
anddisrupted the federal government. In the latest case, that of a 94-year-old 
Connecticut woman who died Wednesday after contracting inhalation anthrax, federal 
investigators said DNA testing showed that the bacteria was indistinguishable from the 
strain that appeared in the attacks in Florida, Washington and New York.

Those attacks involved the Ames strain, a virulent anthrax bacteria named for the Iowa 
city where it was originally isolated, according to an Oct. 25 statement from Tom 
Ridge, the White House director of homeland security. But identifying the type of 
anthrax from among the 89 known genetic strains has done little to clear up confusion 
within the government and the scientific community over the history of the Ames 
strain, how many scientists had access to it and how it might have circulated.

When the attacks began, there was speculation that thousands of labs might have had 
access to Ames, but that number has been knocked down by anthrax experts. Philip C. 
Hanna,a microbiologist at the University of Michigan, said: I'd put it . . . between 
10 and 24.

Paul Keim, who has done genetic mapping of anthrax strains at Northern Arizona 
Universityand is reportedly assisting the FBI with the investigation, said he was 
uncertain of the number of labs with Ames but described it as a pretty small list 
that he thought was very discoverable.

Only a few facts have been clearly established. The strain of Bacillus anthracis that 
became known as Ames was first isolated decades ago from a diseased cow near Ames. A 
natural or wild strain, Ames was recognized relatively early for its virulence and 
for its ability to resist vaccines.

Scientists in America's biological weapons program chose a different strain, called 
Vollum 1B, as the lethal ingredient in U.S. anthrax weaponsin the 1950s and 1960s. But 
in the late 1970s, following the dismantling of the program by President Richard M. 
Nixon, Fort Detrick's microbiologists turned to the Ames strain to develop and test 
tougher anti-anthrax vaccines to protect against biological weapons being built in the 
Soviet Union.

There was a whole new interest because of what the Soviets were doing, said Joseph 
V. Jemski, who ran animal experiments at Fort Detrick. I remember we began working 
with three strains: One from Colorado, another from Texas -- and Ames.

Fort Detrick's work established Ames as something of a gold standard, a hardy strain 
that helps biologists gauge the effectiveness of potential vaccines and treatments. 
Soon, other researchers also became interested in Ames, and Army scientists would help 
them obtain it.

We were all just doing science, said David R. Franz, a scientist at Fort Detrick in 
the early 1980s and now vice president of the Chemical  Biological Defense Division 
of the Southern Research Institute, recalling an era of scientific openness that 
followed the secretive days of the bioweapons program. Our biowarfare era was over, 
and we were doing a lot of work with academia and studying the variant strains. Things 
just weren't as tight as they became after new federal security guidelines on 
transfers went into effect in the late 1990s.

Biologists familiar with Ames identified USAMRIID as the strain's major distributor. 
USAMRIID is the one that handled most of 

Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] CARLYLE GROUP - all you want to know

2001-11-25 Thread Jim Rarey



"Is being redesigned" but not completed.We'll have to wait and see what the 
finished product is. I'm sure there will be a lot less information.

Jim Rarey
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know
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[CTRL] POWs - the pawns of the nation during four wars

2001-11-25 Thread Agent Smiley

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http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/1earth.html

POWs - the pawns of the nation during four wars


By Harry V. Martin


Copyright FreeAmerica and Harry V. Martin, 1995


The window of opportunity for the potential release or
rescue of American POWs and MIAs from Southeast Asia
has shut tight. Any hope that the U.S. government
might find the resolution to have a full public
disclosure on the fate of Americans from three wars,
died both with the November elections and with the
final report of the U.S. Senate Select Committee on
POWs/MIAs. The Senate Select Committee, however,
states, We want to make clear that this report is not
intended to close the door on the issue. 1223-PAGE
SENATE REPORT IS RELEASED
The 1223-page Senate report was issued this year after
nearly two years of hearings. Although the report
concludes that no American POWs are alive in Southeast
Asia, it does provide an insight into the secret
dealings and manipulations of the Executive Branch of
government in in handling the public on this issue.
The Indochina war, itself, was partly a secret war
and records were falsified at the time to maintain
that secrecy, the report states. Ever-changing
Defense Department policies confused families and
others about the official status of the missing and
obscured even the number of men who might possibly
have remained alive. The official penchant for secrecy
left many families, activists and even Members of
Congress unable to share fully in their own
government's knowledge about the fate of fellow
citizens and loved ones and this, more than anything,
contributed to the atmosphere of suspicion and doubt.


Since the early 1970s, the United States government
has indicated that all prisoners who were alive in
Southeast Asian prison camps were repatriated. The
government insisted, without any supportive evidence,
that some 2500 Americans unaccounted for after a
prisoner exchange, were dead. The Senate report now
disputes that contention. U.S. officials cannot
produce evidence that all of the missing are dead,
the report states. Many of the factors that led to
controversy surrounding the fates of Vietnam-era
POW/MIAs are present, as well, with respect to the
missing from World War II, Korea and the Cold War,
the Senate report adds. Here, too, there have been
barriers to gaining information from foreign
governments; excessive secrecy on the part of our own
government; and provocative reports, official and
unofficial, about what might have happened to those
left behind.

POSSIBILITY AMERICANS MAY STILL BE ALIVE

According to its own words, the Senate Select
Committee was created to examine the possibility that
unaccounted for Americans might have survived in
captivity after POW repatriations at Odessa in World
War II, after Operation Big Switch in Korea in 1953,
after Cold War incidents, and particularly after
Operation Homecoming in Vietnam in 1973. Whether the
Committee has succeeded in its assigned tasks will be
a matter for the public and for history to judge, the
report states. Clearly, we cannot claim, nor could we
have hoped, to have learned everything. We had neither
the authority nor the resources to make case by case
determinations with respect to the status of the
missing. The job of negotiating, conducting
interviews, visiting prisons, excavating crash sites,
investigating live-sighting reports and evaluating
archival materials can only be completed by the
Executive branch.

In summarizing its findings, the Senate Select
Committee noted that President Richard Nixon had
stated that all POWs are on the way home, and the
Defense Department, following standard procedures,
began declaring missing men dead. In 1976, the
Montgomery Committee concluded that because there was
no evidence that missing Americans had survived, they
must be dead. In 1977, a Defense Department official
said that the distinction between Americans still
listed as POWs and those listed as missing had become
academic. Nixon, Ford and Carter Administration
officials all dismissed the possibility that American
POWs had survived in Southeast Asia after Operation
Homecoming, the report emphasized. Even while
President Nixon declared all POWs were repatriated,
the President had sent a letter to the Prime Minister
of Laos stating, U.S. records show there are 317
American military men unaccounted for in Laos and it
is inconceivable that only 10 of these men would be
held prisoner in Laos. Yet dispite this protest, only
10 U.S. military personnel were released from Laos.

The Senate Committee says that it cannot share that
viewpoint. This Committee has uncovered evidence that
precludes it from taking the same view. We acknowledge
that there is no proof that U.S. POWs survived, but
neither is there proof that all of those who did not
return had died. There is evidence, moreover, that
indicates the possibility of survival, at least for a
small number, after Operation Homecoming. The
Committee outlined its reasonings on this 

[CTRL] Sidney Gottlieb

2001-11-25 Thread Agent Smiley

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On 17th January 1961 Patrice Lumumba, first and only
elected Prime Minister of Congo, was murdered. The
circumstances of his death remained a mystery, the
identity of his killers unknown.
snip
I recognised him as he walked towards my car, but
when he told me what they wanted done I was totally,
totally taken aback, says Devlin now. Joe from
Paris was better known as the CIA's chief technical
officer, Dr Sidney Gottlieb. He had brought with him a
special tube of poisoned toothpaste. Devlin's job was
to get the toothpaste into Lumumba's bathroom.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/correspondent/newsid_974000/974745.stm

Speaking at a 1961 rally to mobilize Cubans for the
imminent U.S. invasion, (Che) Guevara cited the recent
murder of Patrice Lumumba as an example of what the
empire is capable of. In the many pages devoted to
events in the Congo (later Zaire), Anderson contests
this claim (without mentioning it). Though he reports
a plan by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb of the CIA's medical
division to poison Lumumba, he states that before
the CIA could get close to Lumumba, however, his own
Congolese rivals did. But the CIA and the U.S.
Embassy had already connived with these Congolese
rivals--Moise Tshombe and Joseph Mobutu--to murder
Lumumba.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JBFranklins/che.htm

During the last few years, the public has become aware
of several examples where U.S. Government researchers
intentionally exposed Americans to potentially
dangerous substances without their knowledge or
consent. The Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
which I have been privileged to chair from 1993-94,
has conducted a comprehensive analysis of the extent
to which veterans participated in such research while
they were serving in the U.S. military. This resulted
in two hearings, on May 6, 1994, and August 5, 1994.
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/senate.htm

Lysergic acid diethylamide, or LSD, has been a
sacrament of artists, would-be prophets, and other
such social chaff since the 1960s. Invented in 1938 by
chemist Dr. Albert Hofmann while looking for an
analeptic (circulatory stimulant), he found it had no
effect on lab animals and forgot all about it. Years
later, on the fateful day 16 of April, 1953, he
accidentally absorbed a little through his fingertips
and went flying on the first acid trip. By then the
CIA had a ten-year-old program running, looking for
interrogation drugs and truth serums. They'd played
with caffeine, barbiturates, peyote, and marijuana.
They also tried to get subjects to kill while under
hypnosis, rounding out an operation seemingly
concocted from the plots of situation comedies. Martin
A. Lee and Bruce Shlain report in their Acid Dreams:
The CIA, LSD, and the Sixties Rebellion, that by 1953,
the CIA had authorized project MK-ULTRA, designed to
perfect mind-control drugs during the Cold War.
http://www.historyhouse.com/in_history/lsd/

The man who hand-carried to Leopoldville (Kinshasa)
'lethal biological material' cultured specifically to
kill Patrice Lumumba died on 15 March in Virginia.
Sidney Gottlieb, 80, also known as Joseph Schneider,
was born on 3 August 1918 to Hungarian Jewish
immigrants. With a chemistry degree from Wisconsin and
a doctorate in bio-organic chemistry from the
California Institute of Technology, Dr Gottlieb joined
the CIA in 1951 as chief of its technical services
division. Two years later he was made responsible for
a literally mind-manipulating project called MKULTRA,
ironically along the same lines as Nazi scientists had
experimented upon Jewish and other prisoners.
http://www.africa2000.com/IMPACT/gottlieb.html

According to Sidney Gottlieb, a medical doctor and
former CIA agent, MKULTRA was established to
investigate whether and how an individual's behavior
could be modified by covert means.
http://www.trufax.org/trans/roc7.html

This memo, written by the CIA's Sidney Gottlieb, is
one of the earliest records available from the MKULTRA
project. One month after CIA Director Allen Dulles
authorized the program, Gottlieb writes of a planned
series of five major experiments which are to examine
hypnotically induced anxieties, the relationship of
personality to hypnosis, and other matters of the
hypnotized mind.
http://www.psychops.com/MK_ULTRA/mk_ultra.html

Far from being a mysterious filmmaker, Alfred
Hitchcock was surprisingly candid in revealing his
artistic and storytelling secrets. Countless admirers
have turned to Hitchcock, a book-length interview he
did with French director François Truffaut, and Sidney
Gottlieb's excellent collection of Hitch's own
writings, Hitchcock on Hitchcock.
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/04/23/fp15s2-csm.shtml

Michael Mello, The United States of America vs.
Theodore John Kaczynski. CLAIMS that during 1958-1962
Kaczynski agreed to be the subject of a
psychological experiment. Researcher Lt Col in
Office of Strategic Services. Cockburn CLAIMS this
person is Dr. Henry Murray (--1988), 

[CTRL] AOL Executive Vanishes

2001-11-25 Thread Eric Stewart

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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Paul Walker [mailto:pjw56108@y...]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:36 AM
Subject: AOL Executive Vanishes


Did Douglas Small know something about AOL's collusion with the NSA,
CIA and other agencies to spy on their customers that disturbed his
patriotic conscience? Did that make him a liablity to the Orwellian
World Order? Are his remains sunk to the bottom of some pond like
Chandra Levy who knew too much about McVeigh and OKC? I would say we
will see a dramatic rise of disappearances of key people who knew too
much, just as in the Third Reich and the Soviet Union. Welcome to the
Forth Reich!

Paul

Saturday November 24 12:03 AM EST
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/wjla/20011123/lo/aol_executive_vanishes
_1.htm
l

AOL Executive Vanishes
DC police are searching for a America Onilne executive who has not
been heard from in more than two weeks--something that's totally out
of character for him, according to the people who know him.

Douglas Small is director of marketing for AOL-Time Warner in Dulles,
Va.

On November 6th, the 38-year-old was talking with a friend by cell
phone from his Northwest DC row house on 1st Street. He mentioned the
contractor working on the home had just arrived, at 7:31 a.m.

That's the last anyone has heard from Small. Friends became worried
when he missed a meeting in Dulles later that morning.

Colleagues say he is extremely punctual and reliable, and as far as
they know, is not sick or depressed.

Police say they have no leads. AOL reportedly is offering a $25,000
reward for information that leads to Small's return.

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Re: [CTRL] Bin Laden's Money Tracks Back to Bush

2001-11-25 Thread Agent Smiley

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 Nakano, Papa Bush resigned from this Carlyle group
 sometime ago.


you mean in the past two months?

as of 2 months ago he had NOT resigned...


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[CTRL] muck 11-25

2001-11-25 Thread Agent Smiley

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OVERSEAS VISITORS TO THIS SITE:
THE BRITISH PEOPLE ARE IN A DESPERATE FIGHT FOR THEIR
COUNTRY AND THEIR DEMOCRACY. YOU CAN HELP US BY
BOYCOTTING THE COMPANIES MENTIONED BELOW.
http://www.freenations.freeuk.com/content/enemy1.htm

Brainprints are unique to each person. While the
number nine will appear in the same brain areas of
different people, it still occurs as a unique
signature of how a person specifically thinks of the
number. Biology has the tendency to create things that
are self-similar, Norseen says. The proteins that lay
down your fingerprints are the same protein materials
that lay down the neurons of the brain, he offers.

He also has been asked by military and law enforcement
agencies to show how brainprints can be used to
determine probable cause, which could be used for an
anti-terrorism situation.
http://www.us.net/signal/CurrentIssue/Oct01/decoding-oct.html

A few days ago, The New York Times published a
particularly offensive Op-ed from the unctuous Fouad
Ajami, justifying the US bombing of al Jazeera TV in
Kabul, and smearing the network and its viewers in a
fashion that would be called racist if anyone but
CBS's
house Arab did it. Herewith, a WSWS article from today
that looks at the entire issue of US
censorship-by-bombing, as well as the egregious Mr.
Ajami's piece of trash. When his network, CBS TV,
indulges in melodrama, it's news. When Al Jazeera
broadcasts pictues of children blown to bits by US
bombs, it's propaganda.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Activist_List/message/2702

President of Conscience International, a humanitarian
aid organization, Jennings was in Afghan refugee
camps in Pakistan this May and will soon return to
resume humanitarian work. He said today: The
humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan is far from over --
millions still face starvation and disease. The
sudden expansion of Northern Alliance territories,
although opening the possibility of deliveries from
the north, actually stopped the food convoys from
Pakistan and Iran for several days because truck
drivers are reluctant to travel into a militarily
volatile situation Meanwhile, the humanitarian
effort is losing precious days, a critical factor
because of the onset of winter. For every day lost
now, some people will die down the line.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Activist_List/message/2738

Everyone who opposes the U.S. government's predatory
foreign policy knows that these days you're supposed
to keep your head down for fear of being labeled a
sympathizer with terrorism.

But that didn't keep a lively crowd from attending a
meeting  here Nov. 10 supporting five Cubans who have
been jailed by the United States because they defended
their homeland from terrorists in Miami.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Activist_List/message/2752

Hear Take Back KPFA co-founders Jeffrey Blankfort and
KPFA Local Advisory Board member and former KPFA
programmer and development director Maria Gilardin,
producer of TUC Radio, present NEVER BEFORE HEARD
EVIDENCE of the collaboration between the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting  (CPB) and Pacifica Foundation
management to destroy the nation's only
listener-sponsored radio network.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/message/11876

The Pennsylvania State narcotics agents who are suing
the federal government - and alleging a conspiracy
theory involving defense attorneys, the CIA, the
Justice Department, international drug dealers and the
State Department - are not alone.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/message/11878

Neo-Nazis select opponents for massive defamation and
forgery and then back it with an equally massive
campaign of complaints to their victim's ISP
claiming that the victim is aggressing on them. They
hope that the corporate structure will roll over on
their complaints and they're often correct. This
worked with RoadRunner who pulled my service and we've
just heard they're doing the same thing to the Belgian
mega-site antifa.net
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/message/11881

GOP politician targets Berkeley: Fly U.S. flag or face
aid freeze
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/message/11892

Terrified refugees fleeing the town of Khanabad
yesterday told The Independent that American planes
had bombed the area a few miles from Kunduz daily
since Thursday, seemingly oblivious to the fact that
the buildings they were bombing were civilian homes.
All day yesterday, huge plumes of smoke rose from the
hills on the front lines near the Taliban's last
northern stronghold as B-52 bombers continued to drop
their loads of bombs.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=105629

Did the CIA Meet with bin Laden and Walk Away?
http://www.guerrillanews.com/newswire/211.html

So, you know, we have heard of some cases–there’s a
television station in Baltimore, WBFF where we
understand that the station management is requiring
journalists to read on-air statements of support for
Bush and 

[CTRL] Taliban kill 35 US troops

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/nov2001-daily/24-11-2001/main/main7.htm



Taliban kill 35 US troops
By Ajmad Bashir Siddiqi

Saturday November 24, 2001-- Ramadan 08,1422 A.H

KARACHI: At least 35 personnel of the US Special Forces were killed and many injured in an attack by the Taliban in southern Afghanistan, sources told The News on Friday.

The sources said 35 bodies have arrived at Jacobabad Airbase, where heavy activity is being witnessed as the US helicopters are busy bringing in bodies and injured from Afghanistan. The Pentagon and the Centcom are very much perturbed over this development and there are reports of immediate measures being contemplated to counter the situation.

The sources said 10 C-130s are ready to dispatch the bodies to the US. According to sources, the action, which began on Thursday was also backed by helicopter gunships. The US had launched attack against Taliban and al-Qaeda members but were caught by surprise and had to withdraw quickly. The US Embassy and Army sources were tight-lipped about the incident. It is one of the heaviest casualties, suffered by the US Army in one action since they launched attacks against the Taliban.

The reported killing of 35 US troops appears to be action similar to the previous aborted US heli-borne action carried out in mid-October in which the attacking US troops got pinned down in the face of severe hostile enemy fire. The US troops were caught by surprise. So intense was the attack that the Special Forces personnel had to quickly withdraw without any operational achievement. In that attack one US helicopter crashed in Afghanistan while another 'hit' chopper later crashed along with troops and crew in Pakistan.




[CTRL] The Rothschilds, LBMA, and Gold

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/banking/rothchild.html




The Rothschilds, LBMA, and Gold



"It would be insufficient to sum up the (Rothschild) family as still very wealthy. ..(their fortunes are as) ineffable as alwaystoday the family grooms the inaudibility and invisibility of its presence as a result, some believe that little is left apart from a great legend -- and the Rothschilds are quite content to let legend be their public relations." (The Rothschilds, Frederick Morton, 1962)


 Gold-Eagle analysts, including the Red Baron's The 
Grand LBMA Exposés (http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest/baron1110.html) and the Oracle of Alberta's Novus Ordo Seclorum and China (http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest/alberta1030.html), have drawn attention to the role of the London Bullion Marketing Association (LBMA) and to the House of Rothschild, as a key player at the LBMA and global gold markets. The intention of this essay is to provide an in-depth forensic historical and geopolitical assessment of key issues and players in today's markets. For this purpose, an historical analysis is a good teacher. To understand today's currency and gold markets requires a study of the House of Rothschild; undoubtedly the world's most influential merchant banking power for over 200 years.


 When a Rothschild Falls in the Forest, Does Anyone Hear It?



Most people would have overlooked the Globe and Mail's (Canada's national newspaper) news clip announcing the very recent death of Baron Edmond de Rothschild in the newspaper's International Business section. The Baron's death is no small event when considering the importance of the Rothschild's in European and global financial history. When a Rothschild dies, does anybody hear it or understand the significance? It is ironic that while days of attention were devoted to the deaths of Princess Diana and Mother Theresa, virtually no attention is given to the death of a member of one of the wealthiest families in the world.


 The following description of the Baron's demise appeared 
in the Globe and Mail under his picture:
"Baron Edmond de Rothschild, philanthropist, international financier and member of the banking dynasty, died Monday in Geneva, of a respiratory illness at age 71, a spokesman said. Mr. Rothschild was president of his Geneva-based bank and financial companies as well as the Luxembourg-based Leicom Fund. He was believed to be the richest family member (of the House of Rothschild) that has played a major role in French business and culture for nearly two centuries. The Rothschilds are widely known for their wineries in the Bourdeaux region of France, including the Baron's Chateau Clarke, where he is to be buried this week in a private ceremony. Mr. Rothschild was named an officer of France's legion of honour in 1994, and its order of arts and letters in 1990. Throughout his life, he donated the equivalent of tens of millions of dollars to hospitals, museums, and the State of Israel. An avid art collector, he gave works to the Louvre museum in Paris. Mr. Rothschild's son Benjamin, 34, will succeed him as president of Paris-based Cie Financiere Holding Benjamin et Edmond de Rothschild."


 In a July 1997 edition of the Globe and Mail another rare 
report of another important Rothschild enterprise was made (see Rothschilds holding company fiscal year profit up 66%): The article referred to the Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG, parent of N.M. Rothschild  Sons Ltd, "a Swiss holding company for the Rothschild merchant banking business worldwide ...(with) operating profits rising to 179 million Swiss francs ($122.4 million U.S.) in the year ended March 31 from 108 million francs the previous years." A 66% profit increase is no small feat especially when you consider their line of business. In the article, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of Rothschild's Continuation, noted "We've got a good balance of businesses and on the whole we've had a pretty good run." Sir Evelyn also noted that the company has three global business lines "treasury and bullion trading; resource banking, or banking for the mining industry; and investment banking." Such stupendous returns on a supposedly barbarous relic, gold, make even George Soros's Quantum Fund returns seem meagre. It is important to note that this rare exposure of the family business coincides with the recent rare exposé by the LBMA that the equivalent of between 30-42 million ounces of gold per day are traded in London.
The more significant cousin of RCH AG is in fact N.M. Rothschild and Sons Ltd, named after Nathan Mayer Rothschild, one of the five sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who operated the London-based house of the family merchant banking enterprise in the latter part of the 18th and early 19th century. The Rothschild business enterprise has changed little in over 200 years. But why change a good thing when such large and sustained profits can be made by trading currency, treasuries, and gold plus gold 

[CTRL] Nazi Tribunal Is Model of Deception

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
http://www.bloomberg.com/feature/feature1006529973.html



Nazi Tribunal Is Model of Deception

Commentary. Ann Woolner is a columnist for Bloomberg News. The opinions expressed are her own.


By Ann Woolner

Atlanta, Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush cites the 1942 military tribunal convened to prosecute eight Nazis plotting attacks on U.S. soil to show how he wants to prosecute present-day terrorists.

It's a model, all right.

It's a model of a powerful government official using the secrecy of a military tribunal to deceive the public, falsely embellish his reputation, break promises to a whistleblower and sit by while a 30-year prison sentence is given to the man who thwarted the Nazi sabotage, a man to whom the agency had promised a presidential pardon.

That official was Federal Bureau of Investigation Director J. Edgar Hoover.

His aim was glory for cracking this hugely important case. The problem was that it took no detective work whatsoever to crack the case.

All it took was for FBI agents to believe a man, George Dasch, who twice called and then walked into FBI headquarters to tell them about the plot.

Dasch told them that Nazi submarines had deposited him and seven other Germans at U.S. shores in New York and Florida in recent days. Supplied with explosives and timing devices, their mission was to blow up certain U.S. military equipment factories, transportation structures and Jewish-owned department stores.

Dasch, aided by another would-be saboteur, Ernst Burger, led the FBI to the other six Germans, 14 American collaborators, $174,588 and a cache of explosives.

Pardon Promised

In return, FBI agents promised Dasch that if he pleaded guilty to his role in the plot, he'd get a prison sentence of no more than six months followed by a presidential pardon.

It didn't turn out that way.

During the 18-day trial, held in an FBI training room at the Justice Department building, agents played down Dasch's and Burger's cooperation, although one agent acknowledged Dasch had been promised the pardon.

This was not reported, since no journalists were allowed to cover the trial. Secrecy was necessary, Attorney General Francis Biddle explained beforehand, to prevent America's enemies from learning ``how our intelligence services are equipped to work against them.''

All eight Germans were convicted and six were executed, less than two months after Dasch arrived by submarine. Burger got a life sentence; Dasch got 30 years.

Hoover Censors Report

Even after the war ended and a new attorney general, Tom Clark, wanted to disclose what had happened at the trial, Hoover intervened.

He censored the report the Justice Department produced, cutting out information that could ``discredit or embarrass the bureau,'' Hoover wrote in a memo. Left out was any mention of the pardon promise and the fact that Dasch's own confession sparked the investigation.

Decades passed and Hoover died before the full story came out. Through Freedom of Information Act requests, Atlanta Constitution reporter Seth Kantor obtained the trial transcript, FBI reports and other documents and wrote a series of stories in 1980.

Those stories, on which this account is based, were recounted in an article this week by Cox News Service.

Prison Riot

As for Dasch, he'd been sent to the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary where his presence prompted a prison riot in 1944. Dasch, whom inmates threatened to throw off a five-story building, had been the principal target of the rioting prisoners, according to Biddle.

He survived and was transferred to Leavenworth prison in Kansas.

With pressure from new lawyers to release Dasch and Burger, President Harry Truman in 1948 ordered them deported to West Germany where they'd eventually be free. The White House statement continued the deception in explaining Truman's generosity toward these infamous Nazis: ``After their arrest, Burger and Dasch gave full and complete identities of all connected with the sabotage plot.''

This implied it was only after the FBI had tracked them down that they confessed.

Nor did this version help Dasch in post-war Germany. Nazi sympathizers threatened to avenge the executions of the other six saboteurs and the thwarting of Hitler's sabotage plans, prompting Dasch to move from city to city, job to job. By 1980, his trail had vanished, Kantor wrote. He has since died, according to news reports.

`Museum Piece'

Bush has ordered the creation of military commissions to conduct tribunals for the prosecution of non-U.S. citizens accused of terrorism against the United States. The speed of such tribunals, their portability, the availability of the death penalty and their looser rules make them a good option, in Bush's view.

But looser rules also mean a greater likelihood that the innocent would be convicted and the system manipulated by officials. Secrecy would mean no public scrutiny.

``To do this in a healthy fashion, one has to make trials as open as possible,'' says 

[CTRL] Plum Island

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
http://cryptome.org/piadc.htm



24 November 2001 Contents: 
Cryptome comments Newsday article on anti-terrorism security for Plum Island Scientific American on Plum Island Patricia Doyle on Plum Island 




Cryptome: 

What's underplayed about Tobiason's CD, "Scientific Principles of Improvised Warfare and Home Defense Volume 6-1: Advanced Biological Weapons Design and Manufacture," is his argument that people have a right to know how to protect themselves against biological attack, especially the "accidental" kind. 

The Connecticut victim of anthrax lived across Long Island Sound about 10 miles northwest of Plum Island Animal Disease Center, which is located off the coast of Long Island, and performs highly specialized research on animal diseases. The New York anthrax vicitim lived in The Bronx located at the western end of Long Island Sound, about 120 miles west of Plum Island. 

The Center's Web site (http://www.ars.usda.gov/plum/) says :
 
The Plum Island Animal Disease Center is a Biosafety Level 3 (BSL-3) facility designed and constructed to work with the most dangerous animal diseases in the world, such as foot-and-mouth disease (FMD), Rinderpest, and African swine fever. In fact, by federal law, Plum Island is the only place in the U.S. where FMD and Rinderpestviruses can be studied. 



As a BSL-3 facility, PIADC already has in place state-of-the-art biosafety practices and procedures to prevent a disease organism from escaping into the environment, including stringent and rigorously observed safety measures within the laboratories themselves. 


... still,
 
Plum Island, N.Y., Sept. 5, 2000— The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Plum Island Animal Disease Center (PIADC) has created a forum group—for public affairs and safety and emergency preparedness, to provide new conduits for communication with the center’s neighbors.

 

The forum includes eight local officials who represent communities in New York and Connecticut within commuting distance of Plum Island. The forum will initially meet once a month with USDA scientists and other staff as part of an ongoing dialogue on the center’s research activities, responsibilities, and general operations." 


... so, did a forum member track the virus home to CT? Probably not:
 
Visitors:

 

* Must sign a personal recognizance statement undertaking to abide by the Safety Rules. 
* Must take a shower and follow personal decontamination procedures when exiting biocontainment Building 101. 
* Who have been in biocontainment must observe a self-imposed quarantine, meaning they cannot be around livestock, zoos or circuses for 5 days after coming out of biocontainment. (This does not include dogs and cats.) 


... but,
 
In October 1991, all operation and maintenance activities were privatized, transferring to a contractor (under USDA supervision) all personnel involved in these activities. Currently the operations and maintenance of the PIADC are conducted through a contract with LBB Associates, Inc., headquartered in Columbia, Md. 


LBB Associates is a facilities manager firm which has contracts with the USG for numerous DoD, GSA, NASA, FEMA and USDA operations around the nation. In addition to operating the Plumb Island facility, it operates an unidentified federal facility in Trenton, NJ, the reported origin of several of the anthrax letters. 

It holds government contracts for "hot" facilities for viral research, claiming extensive experience with up to Level 3 facilities and is under consideration as operator of Plum Island's upgrade to Level 4 for research on zoonotic (capable of infecting humans as well as animals) diseases. 

A Plum Island job ad says "many employees live in Connecticut and take the ferry from New London to Orient Point, NY" from which a Center boat goes to the island. The most recent anthrax death occurred in Oxford, CT, a few miles from New London. 

The firm has had several labor relations problems such as employee suits and unionization squabbles. It is reportedly fiercely anti-union. Another report claims its continuing labor problems may have affected a government bid. 

The firm also produces virtual military training programs in urban warfare and aircraft operation. It received a lot of press coverage for adopting and adapting Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Rogue Spear game engine for military training programs. 

The firm also operates military helicopter facilities and services the aircraft. 
LBB stands for Lily Brandon and Brandon, the founder and a relative. 

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:03:08 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: D
Subject: newsday plum 
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usplum162466518nov16.story 

Plum Island Part of Bill 


By Elaine S. Povich 
WASHINGTON BUREAU 
November 16, 2001 

Washington - With fears of bioterrorism in the background, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) yesterday inserted a provision in the Senate's anti-bioterrorism bill that would pour $100 million into extra security 

[CTRL] Novus Ordo Seclorum

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/novus



Novus Ordo Seclorum

(Conspiracy Nation, 11/25/01) -- George Washington envisioned a wooded area alongside the Potomac River as the new federal city. The highest hill in the area, Jenkins Heights, was then owned by Daniel Carroll. In 1663, the owner of this land had been Francis Pope. Pope's name for the high hill was Rome, and he called the nearby waterway the Tiber. [1]

Ancient Rome was a mere city which conquered the world. Although it apparently declined and fell, some say it did not fall but changed its form into the Roman Catholic Church and still dominates the world. Echoing this idea, science fiction writer Philip K. Dick theorized an enormous false memory imposed on all humanity in which the last 2000 years of "history" never happened. According to Dick, author of The VALIS Trilogy, we have been brainwashed by the Roman Empire to think we are living in what is really a totally false world. [2]

Washington's new Rome was surveyed, planned, designed and built largely by members of the secret society of Freemasons. On October 13, 1792 the cornerstone was laid for the President's House (now known as the White House). This cornerstone ceremony was performed by "the Free Masons of George-town and its vicinity," Georgetown Lodge No. 9 of Maryland. A year later, in September of 1793, freemason George Washington and Georgetown Lodge No. 9 performed another cornerstone ceremony, this time for the future Capitol Building. [1]

The name "Capitol" relates to the Latin *Capitolium*, a temple of Jupiter at Rome on the Capitoline hill. [3]

George Washington was initiated into Freemasonry on November 4, 1752. He was the first Master of the Alexandria Lodge No. 22 between April 1788 and December 1789; he was therefore a Master Mason upon his uncontested inauguration as first U.S. president on April 30, 1789. A lambskin apron with Masonic symbols, given to him by the French general Lafayette, was worn by Washington during the Capitol cornerstone ceremony. When he died, Washington was buried with Masonic honors; all except one of his pallbearers were members of Alexandria Lodge No. 22. [1]

The obelisk inspired Washington Monument was originally planned as a tomb for the deceased Master Mason Washington. But when Washington's wife Martha died, it became impossible to legally exhume the remains of the first president and rebury them in the Capitoline City.

The original conception for the design of the Washington Monument was a pyramid, 100 feet square at the base. The project was delayed. In 1833, the Washington National Monument Society's first design for the memorial was a truncated pyramid, with interior light coming from an apex "oculus" (eye). [1] This design mirrors the Illuminati symbol of pyramid with all-seeing eye at the apex. The finally realized Washington Monument, dedicated on February 21, 1885, combines the Egyptian themes of obelisk and pyramid, with the pyramid being at the top.

Both sides of the Great Seal of the United States appear on the back of the one-dollar Federal Reserve note. The front of the Seal has an eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch. The reverse side of the Seal, showing a truncated pyramid with all-seeing eye at the top, was originally not well known. The front of the Seal was cut in brass as a die in 1780 and was immediately used to authenticate official documents. But the reverse side, despite Congressional order to cut it as a die, was not implemented. Over 100 years after 1780, the reverse had still not been engraved. [1]

At the bottom of the pyramid, the Seal bears the motto "Novus Ordo Seclorum." This motto is adapted from a line in the Roman poet Virgil's "Bucolics": "...magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo" (the great series of ages begins anew). [1] Virgil's line, in turn, was inspired by the secret Sibyline books, said to contain details of the destiny of the Roman empire. [4]

The Roman legions marched behind the imperial eagle. The U.S. legions march behind the eagle of empire. In at least one sense Philip K. Dick was correct when he wrote, "the Empire never ended.

"--
[1] Ovason, David. *The Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital*. ISBN: 0-06-019537-1
[2] Dick, Philip K. Summarized in Wilson, Robert Anton. *Everything Is Under Control*. ISBN: 0-06-273417-2
[3] Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary
[4] Howard, Michael. *The Occult Conspiracy*. ISBN: 1-56731-255-X.


Re: [CTRL] Novus Ordo Seclorum

2001-11-25 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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--- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Novus Ordo Seclorum
...magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo (the
great series of ages begins anew).
The Roman legions marched behind the imperial eagle.
The U.S. legions march behind the eagle of empire.
___
Nakano comments:
The armies of Rome, and now the U.S. Military
march behind a disguised Egyptian Phoenix.
The mythical Firebird flew into a fire and was
consumed by the flames...only to be reborn and
emerge in renewed form from the flames and ashes.
Indeed to begin anew ...magnus ab integro saeclorum
nascitur ordo.
Next time you see a gold-fringed U.S. flag on a
flagpole, take a very close look if there is a
gold eagle perched atop the flagpole.
You will notice its distinct similarity to the
ancient Phoenix.
Nakano


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[CTRL] Fwd: Senator Patrick Leahy is Turning out to be a True American Hero

2001-11-25 Thread Samantha L.

(I don't agree with this assessment.  In fact, I now think Cathy O'Brien may
have been accurate about Leahy in her book Trance-formation of America -
Samantha)

forwarded message attached

---BeginMessage---

Thank you Patrick Leahy for standing up for the American Constitution.  As the White 
House and John Ashcroft make ongoing end runs around liberties guaranteed by our most 
sacred document, you remain a true patriotic voice.

Bush has told us to go about our normal busines and show the terrorists that they 
cannot change our American ways.  Yet, the White House and Ashcroft have conceded 
points to the terrorists, in a tragic irony, by undermining our most basic 
Constitutional rights.  The Republican Party has always jawboned about its partiotism. 
 But it is not patriotic to compromise our freedoms and our legal system.

Our founding leaders must be hanging their heads in disapproval at the wholesale 
thrashing of Constitutional guarantees being undertaken by the Bush Administration.

Let Senator Leahy know that you appreciate his commitment to standing up for America 
and our Constitutional rights.
You can find contact information for him at http://www.senate.gov/~leahy/.

Leahy was the intended recipient of an Anthrax filled letter that could have killed 
100,000 people.  But he is not cowed; he is not backing down.  The letters sent to him 
and Tom Daschle haven't broken the will of the Democrats, as was probably the intent 
of the sender.

Senator Patrick Leahy is a true patriot amidst those who would undermine our cherished 
democracy in the name of fighting terrorism.

Comments from BuzzFlash.com

The following is a Reuters news service account of Senator Leahy's November 25th 
comments on upcoming Senate Judiciary hearings.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011125/ts/attack_court_congress_dc_1.html
Sunday November 25 2:53 PM ET

Ashcroft to Face Tough Senate Grilling on Tribunals
By Joanne Kenen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Attorney General John Ashcroft will face a tough grilling from 
lawmakers in coming weeks over President Bush's proposal to create secret military 
tribunals and employ other ``ad hoc, outside the justice system methods'' to fighting 
terrorism, the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman said on Sunday.

Chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, said lawmakers in both parties were 
upset with Ashcroft, who won sweeping new powers to fight terrorism in post-Sept. 11 
legislation and has since announced other controversial measures such as monitoring 
conversations between suspects and defense attorneys and interviewing thousands of 
young men from the Middle East.

Leahy, who negotiated the anti-terror legislation with Ashcroft last month, noted on 
NBC's ``Meet the Press'' that the attorney general had held out the likelihood of 
immediate arrests of terror suspects once those new prosecutorial powers were granted.

The wave of arrests did not materialize, and Ashcroft has instead announced new 
measures including a proposal for secret military tribunals that would not follow the 
usual rules and standards of the U.S. criminal justice system, Leahy said.

``We pick up the paper every morning and here's, 'We're going to wiretap defense 
counsel, we're going to do these ad-hoc, outside-the-justice-system methods,''' Leahy 
said, referring to the administration's tactics.

Asked if he was upset with Ashcroft, Leahy emphatically answered, ``Yes, very much 
so.'' Leahy plans a preliminary hearing this week and expects Ashcroft to testify the 
following week, an appearance that he said would not be ``perfunctory.''

President Bush has said he wants the option of instituting military tribunals for 
accused terrorists, in which military officers would act as judge and jury.

Trials could be secret, with procedures and composition of the courts to be determined 
by the U.S. defense secretary and military commanders. The usual rules of evidence and 
right to defense counsel would not necessarily apply, Leahy noted.

Bush said he wanted to have that option if any al Qaeda members linked to the Sept. 11 
suicide aircraft attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon are apprehended.

However, critics on both the left and right have said these tribunals would abrogate 
civil liberties and undercut the fundamentals of the U.S. criminal justice system.

Leahy noted he was not disposed to be soft on terrorism, particularly since he 
personally was the target of an anthrax letter that investigators believe may have 
contained enough of the potent bacteria to kill up to 100,000 people.

But he said he was not convinced that military tribunals were the only or the best way 
to achieve justice.

``We all agree that there should be justice here,'' Leahy said. ``But let's be a 
little bit careful how we do it.''

Also appearing on the show, Alabama Republican Sen. Richard Shelby, said he was not as 
critical as Leahy of Ashcroft, but that he too had concerns, particularly about any

Re: [CTRL] Japanese Warships Leave to Join War

2001-11-25 Thread Samantha L.

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Japanese Warships Leave to Join War

By Associated Press

November 25, 2001, 9:52 AM EST

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-attacks-japan1125nov

25.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dworld%2Dheadlines

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Re: [CTRL] Harvard head urges a deeper patriotism

2001-11-25 Thread Samantha L.

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http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/329/metro/Harvard_head_urges_a_deeper_patrio

tism+.shtml

The following story appeared in The Globe Online:
Headline: Harvard head urges a deeper patriotism
Date: 11/25/2001
Byline:

CAMBRIDGE - After a quiet few months as Harvard University's new
president, former US treasury secretary Lawrence H. Summers has begun
using the post as a bully pulpit to forward a bold idea: In response to
the Sept. 11 attacks, the academic world should get more in line with
mainstream Americans.


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[CTRL] N. Bedford school assault plot foiled

2001-11-25 Thread Samm

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Date: 11/25/2001
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NEW BEDFORD - Three New Bedford High School students were arrested
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[CTRL] AN EAGLE OR A PHOENIX?

2001-11-25 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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That bird sitting atop flagpoles.
Is it an eagle or a phoenix (firebird)?
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/S2_Illustration_Writeup.html
Secret occult history has recorded that Masons
originally envisioned the American Eagle to be the
Egyptian Phoenix Bird, that mythical occult creation
that lives for up to 500 years and then deliberately
causes its own death. [The Secret Architecture of Our
Nation's Capital: The Masons and the Building of
Washington, D.C. , by David Ovason, Forward by C. Fred
Kleinknecht, 33rd Degree, Sovereign Grand Commander,
The Supreme Council, 33rd (Mother Council of the
World), Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A., Washington,
D.C, p. 219.].
As the Phoenix dies, its body suddenly erupts into
flames and is totally consumed; however, out of the
ashes of the old dead Phoenix Bird, another new
Phoenix Bird arises. The only reason these Masons
changed the original Phoenix Bird to the American
Eagle is that they were convinced that the American
public would not stand for the obviously Satanic
symbol that the Phoenix Bird represented.
The All-Seeing eye atop the unfinished pyramid on the
left-side of the One Dollar Bill is the occult symbol
of Horus. [Janet Reno once had 13 peacocks all named
Horus. The peacock was the sacred bird of Isis, the
mother of Horus.]
During the Clinton's last year in power, Hillary
wore a Phoenix lapel pin. You can see a picture
of it at: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1259.cfm
From the Encyclopædia Britannica:
phoenix: in ancient Egypt and in classical antiquity,
a fabulous bird associated with the worship of the
sun. The Egyptian phoenix was said to be as large as
an eagle, with brilliant scarlet and gold plumage and
a melodious cry. Only one phoenix existed at any time,
and it was very long-lived-no ancient authority gave
it a life span of less than 500 years. As its end
approached, the phoenix fashioned a nest of aromatic
boughs and spices, set it on fire, and was consumed in
the flames. From the pyre miraculously sprang a new
phoenix, which, after embalming its father's ashes in
an egg of myrrh, flew with the ashes to Heliopolis
(City of the Sun) in Egypt, where it deposited them
on the altar in the temple of the Egyptian god of the
sun, Re. A variant of the story made the dying phoenix
fly to Heliopolis and immolate itself in the altar
fire, from which the young phoenix then rose.
The Egyptians associated the phoenix with immortality,
and that symbolism had a widespread appeal in late
antiquity. The phoenix was compared to undying Rome,
and it appears on the coinage of the late Roman Empire
as a symbol of the Eternal City.

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Re: [CTRL] Taliban kill 35 US troops ----- + SHANNON QUESTIONED

2001-11-25 Thread John A. O'Neal

http://jang.com.pk/thenews/nov2001-daily/24-11-2001/main/update.htm
Coalition denies US troops killed 

(Updated at 1530 PST) 

ISLAMABAD The Coalition Information Service in Islamabad on Saturday
denied reports in

some Pakistani newspapers that 35 US soldiers were killed in Afghanistan
last week and their

bodies taken to Pakistan. 

The Coalition Information Service noted that the reports, which were not
attributed to any

source, were typical of false stories of coalition military losses
which have appeared in the

Pakistan press in recent weeks. 

The Coalition Information Service also categorically denied press reports
that coalition forces

have used chemical or biological weapons within Afghanistan.
Comment: THIS WAS AVAILABLE WHEN YOU GOT YOUR'S SHANNON . WHY
WOULD YOU NOT POST THIS TOO..WERE YOU *WISHING* ???
John O'Neal


At 05:06 PM 11/25/2001 -0500, you wrote:
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/nov2001-daily/24-11-2001/main/main7.htm


Taliban kill 35 US troops 
By Ajmad Bashir Siddiqi 
Saturday November 24, 2001-- Ramadan 08,1422 A.H 
KARACHI: At least 35 personnel of the US Special Forces were killed and many injured in an attack by the Taliban in southern Afghanistan, sources told The News on Friday. 
The sources said 35 bodies have arrived at Jacobabad Airbase, where heavy activity is being witnessed as the US helicopters are busy bringing in bodies and injured from Afghanistan. The Pentagon and the Centcom are very much perturbed over this development and there are reports of immediate measures being contemplated to counter the situation. 
The sources said 10 C-130s are ready to dispatch the bodies to the US. According to sources, the action, which began on Thursday was also backed by helicopter gunships. The US had launched attack against Taliban and al-Qaeda members but were caught by surprise and had to withdraw quickly. The US Embassy and Army sources were tight-lipped about the incident. It is one of the heaviest casualties, suffered by the US Army in one action since they launched attacks against the Taliban. 
The reported killing of 35 US troops appears to be action similar to the previous aborted US heli-borne action carried out in mid-October in which the attacking US troops got pinned down in the face of severe hostile enemy fire. The US troops were caught by surprise. So intense was the attack that the Special Forces personnel had to quickly withdraw without any operational achievement. In that attack one US helicopter crashed in Afghanistan while another 'hit' chopper later crashed along with troops and crew in Pakistan. 



[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] GATA Chairman Murphy interviewed on national radio in Australia

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan



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6:44p ET Sunday, November 25, 2001

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

GATA Chairman Bill Murphy was interviewed live for
about five minutes Saturday morning by the Australian
Broadcasting Co. for a nationwide radio broadcast. It
was probably our greatest publicity success in 
Australia so far. Here are some e-mail responses:

Bill, I was surprised to hear your interview on ABC Radio 
this morning while I was driving. First time I have heard 
your name and GATA mentioned on the radio here in Australia. 
You made your point on the short interview and it was good.

And: Congratulations on a fantastic interview on ABC, 
Australia's national news radio. You sounded clear, precise, 
and confident. I had contacted the folks at ABC News Radio 
in April and gave them your name and contact details, but 
wrote them off when nothing came of it. Just goes to show 
that nothing is lost in this effort. Good on you. Go, GATA! 
Go, gold!

And a post at the wonderful forum at www.Gold-Eagle.com:

I just heard an interview with Bill Murphy (GATA) on ABC 
Radio, Australia's national news radio, about the Boston 
case on gold price fixing. The interview lasted about 4 to 
5 minutes. It ended with the interviewer saying, 'No doubt 
we will be hearing much more about this in the near future' 
-- or words to that effect. Hang in there, folks. The truth 
is getting out. Our time is at hand. This was a g-r-e-a-t 
interview.

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.  



If you benefit from GATA's dispatches, please consider
making a financial contribution. GATA welcomes 
contributions as follows.

By check:

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c/o Chris Powell, Secretary/Treasurer
7 Villa Louisa Road
Manchester, CT 06043-7541
USA

By credit card (MasterCard, Visa, and
Discover) over the Internet:

http://www.gata.org/creditcard.html

By bank wire:

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c/o Savings Bank of Manchester
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Manchester, CT 06040
USA
Bank routing number 211-170-185
For account number 9500-574-053

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http://www.GoldMoney.com 
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Holding number 50-08-58-L 

By E-Gold:

http://www.e-gold.com
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Re: [CTRL] Taliban kill 35 US troops ----- + SHANNON QUESTIONED

2001-11-25 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 11/25/01 6:19:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Comment: THIS WAS AVAILABLE WHEN YOU GOT YOUR'S SHANNON . WHY WOULD YOU NOT POST THIS TOO..WERE YOU *WISHING* ???


Fuck you pal.
I don't wish anyone any casualties...I do however wonder if accurate numbers are being released by the US.

Bill.



[CTRL] Poll: Truth about WTC Attack

2001-11-25 Thread THe eXTReMiST

What do you think is the Truth concerning the attack on the World Trade
Center? Which answer best describes your opinion... 
(POLL ENDS NOV 30)
To Vote, Go to:
http://ecclesia.org/lawgiver/weekly6.asp

--
-THe eXTReMiST
We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is
the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World
Order. 
-David Rockefeller, Council on Foreign Relations

We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the
11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the
terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty. 
-George W. Bush at the United Nations 11-11-2001

Like Father, Like son:
It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United
Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth
pledge their allegiance. 
- President George Bush addressing the U.N.General Assembly February
1,1992.




[CTRL] Fwd: And now a word from Ted Nugent

2001-11-25 Thread dig Lola Fox

I'm not exactly what you'd call a Ted Nugent fan and I don't necessarily
agree with all his views, but this is worth reading

 Subject: And now a word from Ted Nugent
 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 04:48:59 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Subject: The Solution-by Ted Nugent
 This is pretty good and he actually said all of this, using some
 language
 that has been left out but that is the only thing that was left out.
 
 Subject: The Solution, by T. Nugent
 
 Written by Ted Nugent, the rock singer and hunter/naturalist, upon
 hearing
 that California Senators B. Boxer and D. Feinstein denounced him for
 being a
 gun owner and a Rock Star.
 
 This was his response after telling the senators about his past
 contributions
 to children's charities and scholarship foundations which have totaled
 more
 than $13.7 million the last 5 years!!
 
 I'm a Bad American - this pretty much sums it up for me.  I like Big
 trucks,
 big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.  I believe the
 Money I
 make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental
 functionary
 with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts
 squirting out
 babies.  I don't care about appearing compassionate.
 
 I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer.  I believe
 ignoring
 your kids and giving them Prozac might.
 
 I think I'm doing better than the homeless.  I don't think being a
 minority
 makes you noble or victimized.  I have the right not to be tolerant of
 others
 because they are different, weird or make me mad.  This is my life to
 live,
 and not necessarily up to others' expectations.
 
 I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.  I don't
 celebrate Kwanzaa.  But if you want to that's fine!   I just don't feel
 
 like
 everyone else should have to.
 
 I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of
 cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English.  As of matter of fact,
 if you
 are an American citizen you should speak English.  My uncles and
 forefathers
 shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you
 were
 born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will.  Get
 over it
 !!
 
 I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're
 running
 from them after they tell you to stop.  If you can't understand the
 word
 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.
 
 I don't use the excuse it's for the children as a shield for
 unpopular
 opinions or actions.  I know how to count votes and I feel much safer
 letting
 a machine with no political affiliation do a recount when needed.
 
 I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word
 is
 -- ever.  I don't think just because you were not born in this country,
 
 you
 qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans,
 etc., so
 you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any thing else, while
 the
 indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they
 can't
 afford it.
 
 I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet.  I thought the
 Taco
 Bell dog was funny.  I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.
 
 
 I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or
 
 Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that
 crap from
 someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light.  But I respect your
 
 right
 to.
 
 I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment
 than
 working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.  I don't want to eat or
 drink
 anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.
 
 Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in
 
 vain
 and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's
 a a
 living document ever changing and is open to interpretation.  The guys
 who
 wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what
 they
 said -- now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.
 
 I don't hate the rich.  I help the poor.  I know wrestling is fake.
 
 I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our
 forefathers
 weren't wealthy enough to own one either.  Please stop blaming me
 because
 some prior white people were idiots -- and remember, tons of white,
 Indian,
 Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too -- it was wrong for
 every one
 of them.
 
 I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more
 dangerous
 than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.
 
 I want to know exactly which church is it where the Reverend Jesse
 Jackson
 preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.
 
 I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be
 allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve
 
 the
 time.
 
 I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and
 continue
 to make more.  If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating
 system
 that's better and put 

[CTRL] CONSPIRACY FOR EMPIRE - Big Business, Corruption and the Politics of Imperialism in Ameri.ca, 1876-1907

2001-11-25 Thread Kris Millegan

-Caveat Lector-

CONSPIRACY FOR EMPIRE
Big Business, Corruption and the Politics of Imperialism in Ameri.ca,
1876-1907
LUZVIIVIINDA BARTOLOME FRANCISCO
JONATHAN SHEPARD FAST
ISBN 971-1058-01-4
FOUNDATION FOR NATIONALIST STUDIES©1985
38 Panay Ave, Quezon City
Philippines
-

FOREWORD,

In 1898 the Americans came to our country in force and in a series of rapid
maneuvers seized state power. Filipino resistance to the American invasion
was prolonged and bitterly fought. It was a virtually suicidal struggle
sustained for ten years against an enemy armed with superior technology and
vast resources, an enemy which unleashed depopulation campaigns of such
unprecedented ferocity that they sent hundreds of thousands of our countrymen
to an early grave. The United States established a colony in the Philippines
which behind a more sophisticated facade remains in force even to this day.

Why did this happen? Why did the Americans come here? What was their purpose?
What was their motive? For many years, the real motives of the American
Command were kept hidden not only from the Filipino people but also from the
vast majority of the American people. Filipino nationalist writers have given
their answers to these questions based on available documents and an
anti-imperialist analytical framework. In this book, Luzviminda Bartolome
Francisco, a Filipina of peasant origins, and Jonathan Shepard Fast, an
American writer, provide us with a new analysis, using corporate records and
other primary source material, heretofore undiscovered or otherwise
unavailable.

Why has a study of this type taken so long in coming? There are three
reasons. First, to understand the real motives of the men who shaped American
policy, men such as William McKinley, Nelson Aldrich, Mark Hanna and Henry
Havemeyer, it is necessary to understand some of the intricacies of corporate
affairs and the degree to which certain corporations, e.g. the American Sugar
Refining Company, had command of the political process in America in the'
1890's. It is also necessary to understand that the members of the Aldrich
Gang had a powerful motive to prevent their real purpose from being
discovered. For these were not public men, despite their prominence in the
affairs of the American nation. Although they worked closely together they
were most often to be found meeting privately in each other's homes, Clubs,
and yachts, or at exclusive resorts such as the Jekyll Island Club in
Georgia, where they knew they could make their plans free from public gaze.
When they did correspond, which was infrequently, their letters often ended
with the warning to each other: read and burn. The McKinley Papers in the
Library of Congress are the skimpiest of the American Presidential
Collections. Aldrich's Papers, were, at his demand, sealed for fifty years
after his death, and thereafter only portions were made available to the
public. The Havemeyer Papers remain unavailable despite their historic
importance to five nations.

Second, those few who were party to what Francisco and Fast call the
conspiracy had an overwhelmingly powerful motive to fabricate colonial
objectives which they thought would win popular support for their policies.

African workers were told that imperialism would be. to their advantage in
terms of higher wages and steady employment as industry, geared up to supply
the markets of the East. American farmers were told cotton and wheat prices
would inevitably rise as American farm products carved out markets in Asia.
Filipinos were told it was all being dome for their own good.

Third, Filipinos suffered special handicaps when it came to developing an
analysis of what had happened to their country. The greatest of these was a
highly successful system of censorship, sometimes explicit, sometimes de
facto which prohibited any independent Filipino investigation of the facts
surrounding American imperialism until decades after the event. The American
Commander in the Philippine-American War, General Arthur McArthur, remarked
in a candid moment that it Would take ten years of bayonet treatment to
subdue the Filipinos and another three generations of propagandizing to
eliminate from the Filipino mind consciousness of what had happened.

Even the documents of our own participation in the anti-imperialist
struggle were denied to us. Approximately 650 file cases pertaining to all
aspects of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines were seized by
the Americans at the turn of the century and removed to Washington where for
decades they remained under lock and key.

It should come as little comfort for us to discover that the American
people themselves do not know the real nature of their imperial past. The
fact that a giant, politically well-connected corporate monopoly, which by
1898 had al-ready compiled a sorry history of corporate illegality, was the
overwhelming beneficiary, in specific dollars  and cents terms, of the
McKinley Government's colonial 

Re: [CTRL] AOL Executive Vanishes

2001-11-25 Thread dig Lola Fox

-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 11/25/01 4:48:01 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Are his remains sunk to the bottom of some pond like
 Chandra Levy who knew too much about McVeigh and OKC? 

I am not familiar with this theory - can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks to all,
Lola

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[CTRL] Netese

2001-11-25 Thread Euphorian

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From
http://www.sciam.com/2001/1201issue/1201reviews1.html

Begin-
Spontaneous, Unedited, Naked
Review by ANNE EISENBERG
A Linguist Looks at Discourse on the Internet

LANGUAGE AND THE INTERNET
by David Crystal
Cambridge University Press, 2001
Never mind those anxieties about the Internet's impact on privacy,
intellectual property and the recreational habits of 12-year-olds.
What is it doing to the future of the English language? Will it
really lead to the end of literacy as we know it--not to mention
spelling?
Not according to David Crystal, a linguist who says in this witty,
thoughtful book that, on the contrary, the discourse of the Internet--
with its new, informal, even bizarre forms of language--neither
threatens nor replaces existing varieties of English but instead
enriches them, extending our range of expression and showing us homo
loquens at its best.
Crystal, the Welsh author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the
English Language who is known to many in the U.S. through his
comments on National Public Radio, analyzes the discourse of Web
pages, e-mail, chatgroups and virtual-reality games. At first glance,
much of this text certainly looks like a primer on linguistic
irresponsibility: the shedding of capital letters; the minimalist
punctuation; the perverse spellings and goofy abbreviations like RUOK
(are you okay?); the smileys, such as :-), representing humor; the
coining of terms at a rate that has no parallel in contemporary
language.
For Crystal, though, these phenomena are not portents of linguistic
doom but examples of a set of language tactics developed for a new
medium he calls computer-mediated communication. The innovative,
sometimes screwball varieties of English expressed in computer-
mediated channels, he says, have evolved as users have adapted their
language creatively to meet changing circumstances.
A Guide to Netspeak
Both uppercase and lowercase forms are used.

afaik
as far as I know
awhfy
are we having fun yet?
b4
before
bg
big grin
cm
call me
dur?
do you remember?
fwiw
for what it's worth
gal
get a life
gmta
great minds think alike
ianal
I'm not a lawyer, but. . .
icwum
I see what you mean
imo
in my opinion
mtfbwu
may the force be with you
obtw
oh, by the way
rotf
rolling on the floor
rtfm
read the f---ing manual
smtoe
sets my teeth on edge
t+
think positive

to tell the truth
tx
thanks
wb
welcome back
X!
typical woman
Y!
typical man
2bctnd
to be continued
2g4u
too good for you
4yeo
for your eyes only
Smileys, for instance, appeared early in the language of e-mail as
people struggled to replace many characteristics of speech, like
pitch and tone, with symbols, using ;-) for winking or :-( for
sadness. Most other forms of written language suffer under the same
burden as e-mail, of course--they are not face-to-face and are
therefore always ambiguous in their omission of cues such as
intonation. So why are there no smileys in other forms of writing?
Crystal argues that the answer lies in the immediacy of computer-
mediated communication. Traditional writing entails time to revise,
to make personal attitudes clear, to tinker with phrases. Smileys and
other, related devices stand in for this extra work in the more
spontaneous, fluid world of the new medium, which combines properties
not only of speaking and writing but of rapid electronic exchange.
Crystal is unbothered by typical usage issues--for instance, whether
the form email, e-mail or E-mail will prevail. He's willing to
leave such matters to a future editorial consensus. And he does not
worry about whether using Dear Bob instead of Bob at the
beginning of an e-mail will make him a fuddy-duddy, as one handbook
on e-mail usage advises. In fact, Crystal laughs at this prescriptive
approach, arguing that to condemn one style as bad is to deny English
users the stylistic option of switching, thereby reducing the
versatility and richness of language. No single recommendation, he
says, can suit the expectations of the range of audiences the
Internet is reaching.
His interest, instead, is in the readiness with which people are
adapting spelling, grammar and semantics to meet the needs of
Internet-based situations. The chapters on specific adaptations are
studded with linguistic delights to satisfy anyone who has ever
wondered what TTFN means (ta ta for now) or tia (thanks in
advance) or gal (get a life). (Many more of these abbreviations
are explained in highly entertaining tables, as are the varieties of
smileys.) He tackles etymologies, too, and the derivations shed light
on much that may otherwise have been mysterious: cc, for example, has
a new gloss as complimentary copy, now that carbon copies are a
distant memory. He examines the plural ending -en that is popular
on the Internet--as in vaxen for VAX computers--saying that such
suffixes are a development that will cause delight to all Anglo-
Saxonists.
Crystal devotes a chapter to the discourse of chatgroups--gossip
groups is a more accurate