[CTRL] Time for civil disobedience ??
-Caveat Lector- DAS GOAT makes good practical sense. If you want to commit suicide and aid the almighty state go challenge it openly and see what happens.! They have the guns and the system. Dont be foolish. Dont tip your hand. Dont be identiifable. Dont go the violence route. Makes good TV but it doesnt win battles. You wanna win?Erode from within. Anonymously. Quietly. Remember Ghandhi and the British rule of India?A faceless enemy cannot be subdued with force. Non cooperation is the key...ignore the State (Lysander Spooner) but quietly spread the word at the grass roots.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New energy LAWSUIT
-Caveat Lector- Dear David Crockett Williams Two sources for information/support: (l) Eugene Mallove INFINITE ENERGY PRESS [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2) Hal Fox Institute for New Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do NOT find an attorney within a couple of weeks please contact us and we will insert a paragraph in FTIR, we have atl least half a dozen attorneys among oor subscribers.. University of Maryland?. Isnt that the home of Robert Parks? the pathological defender of the status quo ? A SUTTON EDITOR FTIR ( Future Technology Intelligence Report) [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hegel [repost]
-Caveat Lector- Mornin Das Goat Just read your Hegel piece for the first time ! I spent quarter century in Universities in several countries and I do not recall any idiot professor with your brilliance of exposition...this should be required reading. Ive been trying for years to say that right -left is a phony Can I make a suggestion ? I know people who think like this and should read your piece.Im an old codger and dont know how to relay to another E mail address. If I sent you an address would you pass it on with a message that I suggested transmission. ? I thought the State of California was short of teachers.! you should be in the classroom Das Goat Your supporter ANTONY SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NASA FILM SHOWS UFOs
-Caveat Lector- We went over the tape repeatedly because we owe it to our subscribers to present the most accurate truthful information available The tape raises a hundred questions. I would call it genuine.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: [piml] * PSYCHICSPY.COM -- the REAL X-Fi...
-Caveat Lector- Russian research "far in advance of our own". Who came up with this canard.? They dont have the funds to keep their labs going. Remember all through the Cold War CIA never did figure out the backward state of Soviet technology...CIA was too busy trying to build a bigger bogeyman to get more funding. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IAHF declares war on duckbreath Stephen Barrett
-Caveat Lector- The State has no authority to tell us what to do with our bodies or how we heal ourselves. Actions against alternate healing are to maintain the monopoly power of pharmaceutical medicine. The State should be using the Sherman Act to break up up monopoly, not use its police power to advance monopoly practice. ANTONY SUTTON D Sc Editor FUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORT. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FREE ENERGY AND CONSPIRACY..... A COMMENTARY
-Caveat Lector- The literature and discussion of free energy is increasing dramatically both on the Internet and print literature. Recently a free energy promoter took out a full page advertisement in USA DAILY to promote his "system". Unfortunately the gentleman has a rap sheet for fraud in two states and has been accepting money from unsuspecting supporters for years.. At FTIR (FUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORT) we have followed free energy work for ten years, we know many of the principal developers and have been made aware of the scam artists by our subscribers.. Free energy can be a minefield for the uninformed. or the naive. It is also of interest to the conspiracy theorist.. On the one hand there is orthodoxy that refuses to accept or consider free energy. On the other hand is a mountain of evidence, some reputable operators, some less than reputable and some merely uninformaed. . Here is a brief summary of what FTIR has found in ten years of publication : l. A free energy device must fuflfill 2 characteristics to be acceptable to the market place. . It must (a) be independently verifiied with a report from a University or a known Laboratory (b) it must demonstrate over unity power (more out than in) continuously under load. 2 In ten years and looking at hundreds of systems we have identified very few systems that fulfill both characteristics These are (l) BlackLight Power Inc (2) Saturna nanotechnology system (3) Case catalytic fusion These are tested , verifiable and continously over unity.(except for Case) We have not see any electro-magnetic system that have these characteristics. There may be some but we have not seen them The problem appears to be in the "test continuously under load" phrase. Intermittent operation.. no load, and so on are not over unity. You cant operate in the real world with these limitations. [We have a device here that needs no fuel, operates continuously but wont take load. useless for the real world] Other systems like "coated beads" have technical problems( bead erosion) or Pons and Fleischmann cold fusion ( will not scale up) or Mathernitha ( DC only) many magnetic motors (essentially magnetic storage devices, ie flywheels) We have identified outright scams. As a rule of thumb the more useful and practical developers avoid publicity. They are too busy in the lab. We can send you a sample copy of the August or September FTIR if you are interested. No charge. Just send a #10 stamped self addressed envelope. For those interested in conspiracy theory, the forthcoming November FTIR will review transnational use of technology to push us into New World Order.. While YOU are looking at Skull and Bones and Illuminati THEY are sneaking in through the back door with transnational technology. (November issue $10.00) ANTONY SUTTOND Sc Editor (Future technology intelligence Report) PO Box 2903, Sacramento CA 95812 asu [EMAIL PROTECTED] .O DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re Monsanto Puts Terminator Seeds on the Shelf YES!! Now for ...
-Caveat Lector- Beware the global wolf! Terminatoe seeds are on the shelf FOR NOW. Monsanto hasnt given up on Genetic manipulation.it has stated explicitly that the drive for GM will continue. in conjunction with Rockefeller Foundation.. Rockefeller Foundation gave us the the mind numbing Schools of Educaiion and a chemical based medicine.. Of cours they love genetic manipulation. Safer to break Monsanto in the market place by law suits, boycotts , complaints. Has anyone posted a list of Monsanto product in the supermarket? ASU Lysonl , Searle pharmaceuticls Nestle. Must be more. ASUs DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS........WARNING
-Caveat Lector- Now we need a COALITION TO END CEMB BIAS. I sent CEMB four posts as a TEST. Guess what? They posted two messages criticising Clinton. They ignored two messages on Bush drug traffickingeven tho I offered evidence. Mike Ruppert (ex LAPD) says witnesses are being intimidated, Best source of informaton is www "Michael Ruppert" THE WILDERNESS NEWSLETTER . .ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Medical Mafia, CIA Drugs
-Caveat Lector- Samantha Mullins should scare you and remind you of Hitler He is a great admirer of the fascist poet Ezra Pound. But I dont know about his "internal logic". Mullins is very selective with data and uses some which is downright false You cant arrive at truthful answers this way. ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ] Fwd: Leave Party, Reform Chairman Tells Ventura
-Caveat Lector- Ventura made a mistake by getting into social issues An albatross also on Buchanan back... A Reform Party is needed for GOVERNMENT REFORM to eliminate corruption, remove special interest influence, cut down the vast bureaucracy,stay home and mind our own business. You could probably win on that platform. On social, health and economic issues the goal should be to remove Government influence and regulation, not make policy statements.. Hands off. These are personal issues not the concern of government or politics. Let people make up their own minds., be responsible for their own actions. Winning elections is built on coalitions. Ventura may have support for his personal social views but they are no concern of government or politics. Best left unsaid. Looks like Ron Paul is closer to the goal. . Keep it simple.! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Bush Family's Nazi Legacy
-Caveat Lector- The Bush-Nazi link is more than " the Bush run Union Banking". The following is from my book AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT page 169. (1-800-343-6180 Liberty House Press) This is never reported in the US Media.Even Drudge wont run it .. In 1932 the directors of Union Banking were: E Roland Harriman (SB 1917) HJ Kouwenhoven (Nazi banker) Knight Woolley (SB 1917) Guaranty Trust Prescott Sheldon Bush (SG 1917) , partner in Brown Brothers Harriman and father of George Bush Johann Gronminger ( Dutch Nazi) Ellery James (SB 1917) Cornelius Lievense ( Dutch Nazi) More on page 170. A Dutch film maker in 1998 found MORE documentation to support the Bush-Nazi link. The film was suppressed by Dutch National TV. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WHY MARS ORBITER WAS NOT LOST
-Caveat Lector- Peter Agreed.I thought NASA used metric only ? Do you know any other large organization that uses two systems of measurement. Something odd here. ASU? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Interior Dept. files destroyed before probe (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Now its Fish and Wildlife Service ! Destruction of evidence. Earlier in the week it was Laura Ingersoll at Department of "Justice" who refuses to file bribery charges because "thats the way the system works" Doesnt anyone in Washington have the guts to file felony charges against these insolent bureaucrats? Obstruction of justice is a felony Congress sits there fat and happy posturing for TV while a private outfit outfitt Judicial Watch actually goes into court. Come Budget time Congress increases budgets instead of slashing by 50% . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..
-Caveat Lector- Prudy You are right, every so often, once in a while, someone honorable comes along But fewer and fewer over the last decade. As a generality D.C. TODAY is a corrupt mess. And people like Laura Ingersoll dont even know what the "right" thing is anyway. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..
-Caveat Lector- INVESTIGATION OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS URGENT AND VITAL Once the rule of law and quality of justice goes the rest of society is headed for the drain. Some years ago I checked DOJ and found thirty in place cover-ups.,..Iran Contra, inslaw, Danny Casolaro, cocaine trafficking by CIA , Waco, Ruby Ridge and so on. DOJ IS THE CHOKE POINT FOR JUSTICE My conclusion was that a group of old time DOJ bureaucrats are mainly responsible. If they havea weak or corrupt A/G like Meese or Reno there is no justice. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- Bill Why dont you takea look at David Bohm, the late and famed physicist. Light years ahead of Robert Park. Bohms great contribution to science is the concept of the "implicate order"...this apparently hasnt hit the textbooks yet and certainly is foreign to Robert Parks thinking.and knowledge. In extreme simplicity according to Bohm there are two levels or dimensions to reality (a) a surface reality in physical and biological phenomena (this is what you subscribe to) and (2 } a deeper level which we can observe only indirectly and which has a transdisciplinary quality. A full description of science must include the second level which Bohm terms "implicate " or folded inward.. This is the dimensional quality I referred to in earlier postings. Psychic phenomina, homeopathy, all these aspects that offend you are fully explaine d in Bohm...and you will see from SCIENCE CITATIONS index that an enormous amount of work in in progress..This is the frontier today. So far as I am concerened Robert Park is back in the 1950's clinging to higher energy physics as a meal ticket... It is this second level that I describe in THE VIEW FROM 4-SPACE but in terms of technologies missed through limited thinking.. TONY SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alternative medicine
-Caveat Lector- I suspect there is no money (profit) in botanicals or homeopathic preparations for llarge firms. They cannot be patented. So why would a pharmaceutical firm even think about homeopathy and botanicals?. And people have gotten used to instant relief.which allopathic chemicals can achieve.. Alternates are essentially preventatives. Ive had a bottle of peppermint oil for ten years. At 2 drops a dose when needed the bottle will outlive me. Ive had a bottle of echinacea worth $8.00 for a year and its still half full At 3 drops a dose twice a week nobody is going to get rich.It works for me and my wallet. If anyone wants to call that gullible its OK by me Whether its a placebo, immune booster or magic is irrelevant. These work for me in specific applications. Then we have those who want to push applications to absurdity. Alternative medicine works for colds, aches and pains, joints, blood pressureall the annoying daily annoyances (but expensive). If you break a leg or acquire ebola...the emergency room is the place to go. Its a matter of balance. Choose what works for you.. Another point: hormone mimickers in milk ( from cattle feed additive) point to the rise in breast cancer rates. Washington scientists have been iinstructed not to discuss latest findings which point to a linkl Why? Because Monsanto stands to lose a bundle.? ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Memory Of Water and Robert Park.
-Caveat Lector- You cite Robert L Park and "serious misrepresentations of modern physics" Park is a most unfortunate person to cite. Park is the former American Physical Society spokesman who made a fool of himself on LENR ( low energy nuclear reactions) The APS has now modified its position. See the Proceedings of the last APS meeting. For the first time papers were presented on LENR. Park has been slandering LENR ( and all linked phenomena) for a decade in disregard of some 3,000 confirming technical papers, 7 International meetings,. support from DARPA,, US NAVY and sustained lab success. Last January Russ George of SRI made a special presentation to Secretary of the Navy Daniels on the extraordinary new findingss. All this to the contrary Park still insists LENR does not exist. His motivation is all too obvious. Federal funding is slipping down the drain. George and SRI have an operating device already run at over unity for more than a year.. Impossible for Park and establishment physics, but a reality for US Navy DARPA and others... More to the point would be YOUR criticsm of homeopathy rather than. the myopic assertions of a discredited Park. Read MEMORY OF WATER and review the 500 citations on high dilution experiments and then give us your interpretation. .The US is the only country in the world that refuses to grant patents on LENR This craziness is now before the US Senate Science is not a "we know it all" fixed paradigm, as Park would have us believe. It is (or should be) a dynamic evolving body of knowledge. So dont give us Park's outdated textbook stuff. Give us your interpretation. ANTONY SUTTONEDITOR FUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORTt DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies if you think in the conventional framework. You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains. But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon. See MEMORY OF WATER page 26 for the second curve, which is Hahnemanns 'spirit essense" If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand.. Loosen up your mind. ANTONY C SUTTON D Sc. etc DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector-
There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia over MONSANTO
and its genetically modified seeds. US even used the ECHELON system to
intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto. NSA denies this but
they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability").
The press in the US has been mostly silent Gutless.
This is a prime example of a transnational firm implementing New World
Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds
and water.
It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as firm, through revocation
of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO. It is
a narrow and specific target. Very vulnerable.
Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto
products) and infowar.
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Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- l, Of course they have to be demonstrable..You have inserted your assumption into my statement.. Again study the MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiiff and the work of Jacques Benveniste. at INSERM, in Paris. At last count there were 500 confirming experiments Schiff is the summary of many years of repeated experimentation in France and Italy. This is the demonstration of effectiveness you ask for. Read it and THEN give me your criticism. At the moment you are in the "I dont want to hear about it school " You are making an emphatic statement without looking at the evidence. This is the height of irrationaility., but quite common according to Kuhn THE STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION. 2. Its a matter of definition.Using your definition then my 4-space would be 5-space. There is an entire US AIR FORCE study based on this confusion. It depends how you handle space-time in the new dimension. Just say extra-dimensional to avoid the problem. 3. Non-existant within YOUR assumed definition.. This has nothing to do with the physical dimension, this is extra-dimensional and you restririct your thinking to the physical.. 4. Read , study MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiff Then get back on line with your comments. I will be most interested to hear your criticism. IF there is a flaw it will be in the laboratory methodology. Take a look maybe you can find it. But it is unlikely that dozens of researchers are repeating the same mistake.. You have to PROVE them wrong. You cannot ASSUME them to be wrong. You will find a quick overview in SCIENCE CITATION INDEX which has a list of high dilution experiments made between 1985 and 1996 ANTONY SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- Joshua2 Please when youve figured out how to tackle Monsanto let us know.!!..there is a world wide waiting audience out there. Not only the Europeans but Australasia and India.as well. Monsanto is a global skunk at the moment This would be a blow to NWO and the Strobe Talbott's in Washington where it hurts..the bottom line. This makes for unhappy shareholders. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- l Read the MEMORY OF WATER (battle of ideas in the New Science) by Michel Schiff about the work of Dr Jacques Benveniste in Paris.On page 26 look at the "second curve" Harper Collins would not import the book into the US (it was published by Thorsons, a London subsidiary) but it is obtainable via PACE in Canada. Censorship presumably has the intent to hide something. The 'second curve" changed my mind. because it was repeatable and measurable.. IIf water has a memory this is strong validation for homeopathy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- Avogadros limit applies to our third dimension only. If you think beyond this, not in the textbooks, you will understand. I can give you the literature guides but I am not going to run a correspondence course.. You have to do the work And if you already made up your mind.there is nothing I can do for you.I do have a book THE VIEW FROM 4-SPACE but it would be like giving a book in Russian to someone who only knows Chinese?. Go to France. Any French pharmacie sells homeopathic remedies, in fact the sign outside gives equal billing.. Go to India, homeopathy is much preferred becuase it is cheaper. A homeopathic practitioner will explain the limits.. It s not a conspiracy just the politcal power of pharmaceutial companies and profit maximization. You are missing an adventure, my friend. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Cokeheads' Country
-Caveat Lector- WALL STREET JOURNAL writers need to go back to college and re-take Econ 1A Treat cocaine like soybeans.. that eliminates the $1 billion War On Drugs, reduces the need for a massive prison system (70% are drug cases) , keeps the US Military at home. What massive intervention does is keep the price above equilibriumand who gains from that policy? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ClintonÕs ÔInfo-WarÕ Underload
-Caveat Lector- SAME OLD PROBLEMS...the carbon filament bomb was the most ingenious... you can have unlimited information but its useless unless you know how to use it. Emphasis seems to have been on low leverage situations, Mickey Mouse stuff. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PLEASE RESPOND
-Caveat Lector- I have already responded DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- All GUNS in England have been seized by the Government and will be destroyed. British gun owners did not believe they would do it...its too late now. The message from (former) gun owners in England to gun owners in the States is...YOU ARE NEXT ADDENDUM Back in 1933 Roosevellt ordered all gold coins to be turned into the Federal Reserve. Only 10 percent were actually turned in. The other 90% are the gold coins you buy today in the coin stores . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- tTHIS IS FOR REAL ON TV AN HOUR AGO. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND
-Caveat Lector- correction . Checked it out ...it was an infomercial for NRA, Yure right. Checked with British sources. Nothing there. Stupid NRA isnt gonna make any friends this way. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] :/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]
-Caveat Lector- Count me as skeptical, very skeptical, about the Denver rumors. About 12 months ago I had a FRANTIC phone call about imminent CBW attack. But this one said "dont tell anyone". I didnt And there is good reason we should do nothing here. Terrorists do NOT broadcast their plans.I suspect we shall get more frantic alarmism as we near 2000.. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [Fwd: Unsettling prospect]
-Caveat Lector- If you have accurate information down to nationality of these terrorists I trust you have already given it to the FBI...this is the only organization with the capability to handle such a situation .if it exists. You are not doing anybody a service spreading it over the Intenet. This tips off the terrorists .if they exist. You are also providing ammunition to those who want to censor the Intenet ASU. he DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BATF explosives list from Federal Register
-Caveat Lector- McVeigh was alleged to have used ammonium nitrate explosive mixture and ANFO ( fuel oil+ ammonium nitrate) If you accept General Partins excellent work someone used either C4 plastic explosive or . amatol(very sensitive) or similar on the steel girders. ANFO/black powder isnt effective in shearing 12"/18" steel girders This is a list of substances designated explosive by the feds. I dont think it means that that ATF has all these in stock but they probably have small quantities for training purposes. Would be interesting to see ATF stocks of explosives, they must have an Annual Report. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CEMB COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS
-Caveat Lector- CEMB is a bunch of thin skinned Bushkins adrift in a sea of reality. It took us three tries to get across the idea that the Bush family is linked with drug trafficking..There is enough prima facie evidence to warrant official investigation.. In fact there is a case in Federal Court, Boston right now...Tyree vs Bush, Cia, Cellucci etc ( Case No 98 CV11829JLT) So where is the press? This case is on Bush cocaine trafficking Where is CEMB ?. First CEMB reply was " we reject rumors" So we offered the file numbers of 27 DEA files which could start the ball rolling We dont have the files but we do have the file numbers. They originate with a former DEA AGENT and are available on the Internet.. CEMB responded with a post . a puff piece on George Bush Jr.! Maybe they are not thin skinned, maybe just thick headed.. Do the Democrats have a similar "media bias" front ?" We'll give them a try. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- Interesting post from Tenebrous. "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism (4) the strident leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat (7) rigid statist social views. As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian. No change for us Interesting too is Perot support for Buchanan if you link this to the post about the Perot-Clinton-Bush coalition. Not surprisingly Perot turns out to be for Hegelian statism and not individual freedom. The inefficiency of the system worries Perot, not so much the basic nature of the system . Useful freedom choices: Paul, Ventura, (Trump?) . Not Buchanan, Perot or Dole.. We need new faces not re treads and certainly not Hegelian re-treads.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DENNIS LEE
-Caveat Lector- hILARY DENNIS LEE ? Weve followed Dennis Lee for years in Future Technology Intelligence Report.. We have had nothing but complaints from subscribers., a rip off. He refuses to get his devices tested independently and continues to take in other peoples money. Ask him about his rap sheet in two (or is it three) states for fraud. We know about New Jersey and Calif) . Hilary, run dont walk,to the nearest exit. FREE LUNCH ? No such thing as a free lunch? Sure in economics thats true, its a closed system... . But this is a frontier of new science.(we call it 4-space), tapping energy from space. There 's a free lunch oot there once you figure out to tap the energy. FTIR PO BOX 2903, SACRAMENTO CA 95812,. FTIR po bOX 2903 sACRAMNETO ca 95812 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] RICO
-Caveat Lector- Maybe CEMB (Coalition to end Media Bias) needs alittle education on media suppression of cocaine trafficking. The E-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ernie Lane) He appears to be i/c but doesnt believe suppression exists. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] COLD FUSION CONSPIRACY
-Caveat Lector-
PROOF OF SUPPRESSION
FOR TEN YEARS THE WORLD HAS BEEN TOLD THAT COLD FUSION IS A HOAX AND A FRAUD
The truth is now emerging.There was a US Government conspiracy to hide
the truth from the world.CF or low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) is a
revolutionary process which generates {almost) free energy.
The conspiracy can now be described:...and it starts with George Bush. (Who
else)
l. We reported in FTIR years ago that in March 1949 on announcment of cold
fusion, President George Bush (with a lifetime in the oil industry) summoned
physicist Glenn Seaburg to the White House. Seaburg was given certain
instructions..
2, Then came the Energy Research Advisory Board report slamming cold fusion
followed by ten years of negative disruption out of Washington.. At this
point in January 1990 we started FTIR ( Future Technology Intelligence Report
)and for ten years have reported on the underground work.
3. The details of suppression are now printed in NEW ENERGY NEWS SEPTEMBER
1999, Editor Hal Fox. PAGES 15-16.. It was an organIzed, negative
dIsruption campaign All major newspapers, scientific journals, organizations
were iinstructed not to publish articles on cold fusion.. BUT one
individual Dr Hal Fox has kept detailed archives, now 3000 technical articles
of underground work..
4. The underground work was so successful that FTIR, NEW ENERGY NEWS,
IINFINITE ENERGY always had news to report..
There is no question that this Government organized suppression campaign
to discredit cold fusion (LENR) was organized in Washington D.C By limiting
knowledge and research this campaign has adversely affected national
security...The US is the ONLY country in the world that will NOT grant a
patent on LENR/CF..
MORE DETAILS ?
Contact Dr Hal Fox at [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEN is( $35/YR)
Or FTIR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(PO Box 2903 Sacramento CA 95812 $65/yr)
:Like WACO, TW 800, PAN-AM 103, CIA COCAINE TRAFFICKING AND A DOZEN OTHER
EPISODES WE WERE LIED TO..
What to do ? Easy, ALERT your friends to this , even if you have to drag
them kicking and screaming to the information. We are nearing critical mass.
PASS THIS ON TO OTHER NETS AS WIDELY AS YOU FEEL IT DESERVES.
ANTONY C SUTTON
EDITOR FITR
PO BOX 2903, Sacramento CA 95812
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[CTRL] The myth of the liberal campus
-Caveat Lector- Seems to me "progressives" (Left Hegelians) would be advised to keep quiet else more citizens will learn the truth and pressure Congress and State Legislatures to cut funding. . Under the Gramsci Marxist flag and PC nonsense they already have a grip on most Universities,. the Right Hegelians have a grip on the others. In my experience ( Gottingen,London,UCLA, Cal State Los Angeles, Stanford) either left or right Hegelians run the show. I had problems 30-40 years ago. Today I would not apply for ANYTHING, entry, tenure, research money. Independent minded scholars are automatically pushed out the door. Just say "no" and ignore the system. Since I was thrown out of Hoover Institution Stanford 30 years ago for writing a book that was independent and truthful (BEST ENEMY MONEY CANBUY) I find the only route is to use the enterprise system (or whats left of it) to finance personal academic work... You have to be full of energy and stubborn but it can be done. To show you how hypocritical these Hegelians are. Hoover Press has kept the first 3 volumes of my WEST TECH in print for 32 years.(without paying a penny in royalties)... while I was thrown out of Hoover for writing the 4th volume.sequel. Both left and right Hegelians were in agreement. I was a problem to be silenced. The Left doesnt like me becuase I exposed their darling the Soviet Union(the failure of socialist "planning"} and the Right because I threatened the profits of corporations propping up the Soviet Union. ( (To havea big military budget you have to have an enemy) Today I doubt anyone, even someone with the obvious talents of Das Goat could make it through the maze without an ability to act schizoid for long periods..But you dont need the. system. Want a fancy piece of paper. ? to demonstrate "qualifications". There are ways ot get these tickets to mediocrity without too much sweat. There are flaws in the system. Any ways who would want to live in a system with PC running the show. ?/ A mind numbing gulagwe all have to think alike and be alike..that make it easier to control. The progressives have become fascists and the corporate fascists have become socialists. This will be their downfall in time.t ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Origins of the Public School
-Caveat Lector- BEYOND MICHAEL JOHNSON Its a pity that Michael Johnson does not push his argument into conspiracy territory. No need to be shy. The facts are well documented. . Horace Mann and Thomas Dewey were indeed instruments in transforming education into a State condition ing vehicle, as Johnson argues.. But before these came Wilhelm Wundt, three members of SB (Gilman ,Dwight and White) and assorted German and Swiss Illuminati. Follow these and you find the conspiracy. On page 64 of AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT you find a photograph of David C Gilman. The Skull Bones badge is neatly pinned to his shirt front On page 79 is the story of Johann Hebart who came before Wundt and the Swiss Pestalozzi whose education literature traces directly backwards to named Illuminati. and forwards to todays Hegelian system. ANTONY SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] individual vs. state
-Caveat Lector- Yea.It could read "community and individual" vs the state. I used a shorthand "the individual" ( which in aggregate comprise community) to emphasise individuality and for simplicity. I am gradually forming the idea that VOLUNTARY communities may be the way out of our dilemma.. Whether the individual can be a threat to the state is debatable. But the State sure acts as if they can be...and I can vouch for that from personal experience.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SNET: ACC ACCUSES WACKENHUT OF HARASSMENT
-Caveat Lector- Its about time someone sued Wackenhut... they show up in the strangest places...PROMIS software, Danny Casolaro case, cocaine in Colombia, electronic interception, obstruction of Congress yet nobody sues them.!. Looks like a civilian group operating with Government authority. A law suit would clear the air. this is not a nickel and dime outfit. And if they counter sue Shulman and ACC we can find out if Shulman is either a top rated PR man trying to make an extra buck or a public spirited businessman. This Wackenhut electronic interception charge has been around for several years.. Bout time someone went into court. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. and the 13TH LINE
-Caveat Lector- The SS ( Schutzstaffel) was organized by Reich Leader Heinrich Himmler, this organized the Keppler Circle later known as Himmlers Circle of Friends The Circle had about 40 members including people from Standard Oil and ITT. List of some members in WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLERi (Antony Sutton) Chapter Nine the nazi inner circle. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Outing Spies
-Caveat Lector- Yea, good example of their fear of "conspiracy" is CEMB ( COMMITTEE TO END MEDIA BIAS) CEMB banned discussion of conspiracy.and postings are being pulled CEMB is a Bush site...only non conspiratorial favorable items to Bush are allowed. They got problems. Censorship is imposed when there is something to hide. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]
-Caveat Lector- Whew! In general I agree...but some comments. l. Too late for rational solution, yes. What I am concerned about is a bunch of irrational hotheads fomented by "agents provocateurs" kicking off a self defeating fight against the State. Let events unfold naturally. 2. the situation is now the individual vs the State. and is being carried by events We are essentially observers.to the tide of future history. 3. However some recent revolutions have been very much a small group sparking the masses. Many years ago I was digging around in the Hoover Institution Tower and found a bundle of papers relating to the Sun Yat Sen revolution in China (1912) All the ingredients for a fomented revolution: names of Wall Street bankers, agreements for concessions, Chinese request for funds, even lists of arms shipped, expenditures neatly itemized,above all the names of people involved Chinese and American These were not intellectuals they were entrepreneurs who wanted mineral and railroad concessions. the papers show a business arrangement rather than anything else. . Second the Bolshevik Revolution was a small group Lenin, Trostsky with maybe 10,000 followersand with outside funds.. Same with Hitler, outside help. In fact Putzi Haenfstengl, Roosevelt's college friend, was right at the core of the Nazi movement. 4. There has to be a mass movement for revolution but up to now it has been influenced rather than controled by "leaders" and by outside influences, usually funding. Today I suggest the mass participatory Internet has become a leader along with a more (semi-) "educated" audience. This still leaves intellectual leaders essentially sitting on the sidelines as hypnotized observers.. This revolution in some ways is more like the 1933 Nazi revolution ( and I wonder about Waco and similarity to the Reichstag fire)... A docile general population, outside funding ( cocaine billions), jackbooted thugs. On the other side the Internet and a somewhat more alert educated citizenry. What are the techies in Silicon Valley going to do? These are quite different people to the 1933 German burgers. It may not pan out the same way.as it has before One hacker may be more significant than an M ll tank. This is more of a "mind revolution" than physical revolution. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Borden of Yale '09
-Caveat Lector- Maybe all the "Christians" flocking to Bush should ask these same questions or at least ask Bush to answer them.how can they support a candidate with satanic associations? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rauchen Verboten !
-Caveat Lector- You can push this argument too faranybody in Germany in 1945 will tell you that the currency used was not marks or the allied money but coffee and cigarettes...especially cigarettes.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Campaign to End Media Bias [CEMB]
-Caveat Lector- CEMB is only interested in "bias" against Bush...nobody else is in the race according to CEMB..from CEMB postings so far anyways. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] It happened again (Fort Worth Massacre)--Right on ...
-Caveat Lector- Has anyone looked at use of prescription drugs (prozac, ritilin, hydrazine, librium etc) by these individuals... I mean actually looked at the autopsy and police reports in a statistical way, not just annecdotal reports. would appreciate any literature references. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The glorious capitalist free market economic system.
-Caveat Lector- You say "supporting causes or individuals" does not seems to be...working. Believe me it IS WORKING. I can remember the 1960's when a mere handful of writers, and organi zations., were at work., and 99% of citizens laughed at conspiracy. Its a different world today...one poll I read listed 70% of Americans believe there is some kind of conspiracy. The debate to day is more like is it stupidity, greed or conspiracy?. It got to this point only because anonymous citizens out there did their part.t. We may not see any dramatic effect but believe me the change is there. The only way I can measure it quantitatively is the number of letters, E mails I receive and books sold. But there are now scores of writers, maybe hundreds, over seas as well. The revolution is a creeping revolution, quiet and slow. Thats the best way. ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] congressman Ron Paul
-Caveat Lector- Congressman Ron Paul does not get the publicity he deserves. Originally he was a medical doctor and...as he puts it stepped down in the world to become a Congressman.. His constituents have stuck by him, there are repeated efforts by the Republican establishment to ease him out.. Ron is uncompromising.No foreign adventures, reduce Big Brother spending, limited Government. Sometime he is the only No vote. Just last week he introduced a Bill to enforce separation of powers. Where Pat Buchanan is a Right Hegelian, Ron Paul is more to the classical liberal position (NOT to days totalitarian liberals) where there is no right and no left with minimum government.. ANTONY SUTTON... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation
-Caveat Lector- Agreed.Revolution with guns is self defeating, they would just love that. A recipe for self destruction. This is 1999 not 1799. Use the dialectic against itself. Both sides are corrupt. Let them destroy each other.Of course we can help it along some.. as you suggest... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Education Meltdown
-Caveat Lector- What we have is a Hegelian system of education where the child is conditioned to become subordinate to the State.( Hegels"march of God on earth"). John Dewey the NEA darling was pure Hegelian and designed the system where the state is absolute and Schools of Education reflect this in training teachers.. In my AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT I trace how this system developed by Wundt in Germany was deliberately introduced into the United States throuhg the Schools of Education well over 100 years ago Want to change this system? You have to remove the Schools of Education first. No good blaming the teachers. They have been conditioned too. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Heads up and Waco, British Special Forces there?
-Caveat Lector- Jamieson Here' the complete list of dead by citizenship US 47 British 25 Australia 8 Canada 2 Israel l New Zealand 2 By race is also interesting White 40 Black 29 Hispanics 6 Asian 3 Polynesian 2 Asia-mixed 2 Shades of Georgetown!!Whites slightly in minority 40 vs 42.non-white. More interesting leads. Rhodes scholarship named after Cecil Rhodes who had his secret society based at Oxford, England Anybody studied the eugenics aspect of Rhodes secret society?? Then look at Yale SB ( see my AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT) definitely tied to the eugenics movement of Mrs Averell Harriman. No Jews or Blacks in SB until maybe the 1950's., and today only a few.tokens in front positions. CLINTON was Rhodes scholar, so was independent investigator DANFORTHa Rhodes scholar Agreed this is straining. Needs a lot more data on the Anglo aspect and the race aspect, and Rhodes angle might be worth checking. No foreign press either! But like Jamieson my nose is twitching ANTONY C SUTTON Author AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: KGB JFK assassination
-Caveat Lector- Of course you can look at this another way...that CIA added some extra disinformation documents to the original Mitrokhiv archives... they both lplayed the same game. And Risen should know that. After all he works for NEW YORK TIMES with the motto "all the news that fits".. Why name bit player Hunt? Why not George de Mohrenschildt, a Russian friend of George W Bush.Jr. and the Texas oil crowd with all kinds of verifiable links to JFK assassination... Of course you can play this game two ways. If you spot the deception you can identify the focus of interest, and if you know the focus of interest..and so it goes. ANTONY SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox ...
-Caveat Lector- re FORT KNOX GOLD I think the problem is that the Fort Knox gold stock is not "good delivery" gold. The stock is "coin melt" which cannot be sold on the world market without refining. This of course is gold from coins seized from the American public in 1933. Who got the "good delivery" gold? Good question I dont know.. THE ECONOMIST is in the Piers Publishing Group, London ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] COINCIDENCES AT WACO
-Caveat Lector- Yes, coioncidences for the sClinton WH and no doubt Danforth will call them "judgement calls" and as such cannot be included in his investigation You and I would have BATF Buford and the Medical Examiner Peerwani No #1 on the witness list.. . ACS. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bonesman Senator John F Kerry
-Caveat Lector- Kris As you say, a fine upright gentleman is this Senator Kerry. When are you going to drop the other shoe, Kris ? Looking forward to Part Two! Tony DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re FBI squashing authors
-Caveat Lector- Joshua 2 Here is an extract from the publishers brochure: "President Reagan asked the American ;people to spend $300 billion to defend an enemy the West virutally built. In effect the US taxpayer has been funding two defense budgets--their own and the Soviets. Senator Steve Symms stated that if the American people knew what all the US has given to the Soviets to assist them in their effort to achieve them in thair effort to achieve global hegemony they would be outraged. The Best Enemy Money Can Buy lays bare the ugly truth" This is the book the CIA WANTED TO SUPPRESS. \ The same publisher also handles AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT. Call 1-800-343-6180 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?
-Caveat Lector- Not bad. idea.. I think she is just out of her depth. I once counted 30 cover ups in DOJ and she is hostage to a bunch of corrupt old timers. Reno is the fall guy designate.and Danforth will set the scene ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] rE publiceye piece
-Caveat Lector- Yea. I spotted the Gramsci line right off DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re FBI squashing authors
-Caveat Lector- Interesting . Its a stupid move but they do it. I can vouch for CIA illegally attempting to suppress a book I sat right across the table when they ran the attempt on.my BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY complete with the threat " you wont survive" Im not ready yet to release the whole story ( dont worry I know how to insure myself) but THE BOOK has been available for 17 years. All CIA did was guarantee the book stay in print.. Its a dumb move. The original title was NATIONAL SUICIDE. The book was updated and re-issued as THE BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY Still available. (LIBERTY HOUSE PRESS 1-800-343-6180. $ 12.95 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GAVIN PHILLIPS-- REPLY TO PUBLICEYE.ORG
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Gavin for pointing out these apparent discrepancies Let me try to explain the problem. Ive been working away at this conspiracy area in its various aspects since about 1960, and so has Ed Griffin, whom I have known for 20+ years with much respect . Back in the early 1970's I worked through the State Department Decimal file ( the CIA of 1920), the files of the War Trade Board, the British Foreign Office Confidential files and the German OKW files.. If you look at my WALL STREET AND THE BOLSEHVIK REVOLUTION( Buccaneers Book) and AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT ( LIBERTY HOUSE PRESS) you will find I base the case on ORIGINAL documents (telegrams, letters, memos, SB membership list etc). No one has ever refuted these documents. From the research viewpoint it leaves open whether Schiff and Jewish bankers. also financed the Bolsheviks. If you read the appendix in BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION you will find a review of the Jewish banker argument .At that time I had no evidence that they provided any funds and I still have no documentary evidence. However I did find disinformation coming out of the WAR TRADE BAORD directed by John Foster Dulles, close to the Wall Street operators (Morgan, Thompson, Thacher)o. This is confirmed in the Scotland Yard files. I have always based arguments on documentary evidence at hand. If anyone has documentary material contrary to my argument then I assuredly would like to see it.. On the other hand I do not rely on quotes from interested parties. In no way does this detract from the decades long work of Edward Griffin. This is a murky.field and we all, me included, tread warily. Show me some original documents, Gavin. Thank you for your interest. TONY SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] rE publiceye piece
-Caveat Lector- Dave Could you do me a favor? Remember the piece you sent re PUBLIC EYE, RE their interview with Craig Hulet ? Could you send me a copy? I dont have a scanner and I want to send a copy to PUBLIC EYE...they dont beleive they ever made such an interview, If you could also send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it would help me. Sorry to inconvenience you! Im demanding equal space.and retraction etc. Tony Sutton DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Triviation: 09-09-00-99
-Caveat Lector- In regard to Danforth. Take a look at Judge Stanley Sporkin. He heard the Akwei case in 1992 (CA 92-0449) VS National Security Agency. Akwei was an NSA EMPLOYEE and tried to blow the whistle on illegal NSA electronic interception...now called echelon. fFROM memory the case was shunted to Judge Sporkin because he has CIA connections. Sporkin dismissed the case. And so it goes. The only way to defeat this cozy little club is to watch for omissions and scream loud when you find one. Three areas to watch (l) illegal warrant to search (2) the film of the FBI tank blasting away and starting the fire. (3) White House orders. for assault this is what they will want to hide. WACO is a premeditated attack on US citizens by US Military and logically had to be ordered from the White House.Will be interesting to see how Danforth gets around this.one. ASU2431426 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WACO
-Caveat Lector- SEE Committee on the Judiciary, EVENTS SURROUNDING THE BRANCH DAVIDIAN CULT STANDOFF IN WACO TEXAS APRIL 28 1993 On page 31 Sensenbrenner questions Reno. It reads as if Associate Attorney General Designate Hubbell was the link between White House and Command Center at DOJ. Hubbell was the DOJ man at the Command Center.and talking to the WH and Clinton.. Yet Hubbell had no official position, he was "designate", had not been confirmed and therefor had no legitimate reason to be in the Command Center. Hubbell was not called by the Committee Another interesting fact ( page 165)... On March 22 Presidential Candidate Clinton passed within 1 1/2 miles of the Mt Carmel Compound. If the compound was haven for dangerous criminals with heavy weapons (witha range over 3000 meters) what was the Secret Service doing ? They allowed Clinton to come within shooting range of weapons they allege to be in the Koresh arsenal.. Is it Secret Service policy to allow candidates within shooting range of dangerous people? We doubt it . Mpre likely Koresh was not really a threat. the threat was a fantasy invented by BATF. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DANFORTH
-Caveat Lector- What a joke! Reno is going to appoint a Washington insider as "independent" investigator. Why not a citizens committee? It was ordinary citizens that got killed by these thuds. I would trust a farmer, a steel worker and a teacher before another one of these Blue Ribbon Committees Or go the Grand Jury route.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (no subject)
-Caveat Lector- Judith Good idea! The only mind control case I know right now is the Lambros case. But Lambros is in Leavenworth and very difficult to deal with. I ran across another many years ago- Diana de le Vega...a CIA vicitm. This is only mind control ? We need "Government victims united"all those abused by Big Brother...CIA pilots, academics, whistle bllowers etc., ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REPLY TO PUBLICEYE.ORG
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Dave for posting the comments on my work by "public eye.org" PUBLIC EYE has a problem. Either (lA) they cannot read English or (B) they have mental dyslexia My positions on topics cited are a mirror image of their reporting (l) Anti-semitic? If you read my WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION you will discover that I include an appendix to show that the Bolshevik Revolution was not (repeat NOT) a Jewlsh conspiracy.. In fact I quoteda previously unknown document from the State Dept files to show that Shifff was working against the Bolsheviks.. The revolution was financed by Wall Street gentiles as Morgan, Thompson, Thacher etc. (2) Obviously PUBLIC ORG knows nothing about the etheric weather engineering work of Trevor Constable which emerged from the earlier work of Wilhelm Reich. Nothing mysterious here. Constable's company now operates out of Singapore because myopic Americans (like PUBLIC ORG) refuse to accept reality. Ive known Constable for 15 years and once made the suggestion to him that even if he dumped 12 inches of rain on the Capitol Building some would still say it was an illusion. .(3) Free energy? just look at the cascade of work now in progress. In fact Dept of Energy has finally given up denial and is financing the work of George Miley, the most prominent worker in low energy nuclear reactions. (4) Acoustical levitation.? NASA has a technical report including photographs off acoustical levitation. Ask any acoustics engineer.. (5) On alien technology. Yes FTIR has reported on this from time to time based on the revelations of Colonel Phillip Corso and the Firmage documents.. FTIR does not take a position, just reports We have an open mind.. As for the description "far right theorist" We have consistently argued that the Right Hegelians and the Left Hegelians have a commonality, use of the Hegelian State for personal agendas and personal profit. The individual is subordinate to the State.in Hegel while our view is that the individual is supreme and the State a convenient fiction. The conflict between right and left, the dialectical process is artifical because right (Hitler) and left (Marx) originate within the Hegelian State. for the acquisition of political power. Sklar of course is Left Hegelian. As for "theorist" my work has always been heavily factual based on original documentation. I rarely get into theory. PUBLIC ORG is using the old tired ploy of personal slander and distortion.when it cannot defeat by using facts But I love their use of the word "exotic"...how many writers get their work termed "exotic"? i challenge PUBLICEYE to review any of my books. (Some hope!I I).. They dare not read them because their Hegelian illusions will go tumbling down the storm drain.. .. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JANET RENO SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER ONE!
-Caveat Lector- Agreed. Murder is murder whether committed by the State or an individual The State is merely a fiction controled by an elite for their own control purposesso successfully that they have convinced citizens that murder committed by the State is not murder.Hegel called the State " the march of God on earth" and these eliitists ( whether kings, tribal chiefs, presidents or whatever) really beleive it. Time we wised up and called their bluffWe have a constitution, lets use it.. . ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Warrant of Agent Davy Aguilera
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Jean Staffen for making the Waco warrant available. THIS is a warrant from a US Government Agency ? agent Aguilera is acting on behalf of the US Goverment with unsupported gossip.? God help us! Looks as if ATF wanted to make a big show at budget time to influence Congressand Congress couldnt figure that back in 1993? Lets see if the media picks up on this and digs out the original warrant with Judge Greens explanation.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TW 800: ...
-Caveat Lector- This explanation fits the radar plots published in LE MATCH (PARIS) and Pierre Salingers work Also FBI agent in charge Kallstrom resigned after TW 800 and is now Vice President for a credit card company. We noted in the press conferences that Kallstrom made a definite point. he had strict instructions about what was to be made public Where did a terrorist get Stinger missiles?Our guess is..CIA via Afghanistan. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Joyce Riley on Art Bell 9/2/99
-Caveat Lector- HERE IT IS AGAIN .. 'there was no legal search warrant" We have been asking around for 5/6 years "..where is the search warrant" ? Any attorneys out there want to comment ? This was an illegal armed assault by the military and law enforcement on American citizens. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NEWMAN SUPPRESSED TECHNOLOGY.
-Caveat Lector- The world has been waiting for decades for NEWMAN to allow independent verification of his technology The key is INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION.. We have recommended for years in FTIR that Newman take his technologydown to the University of Arizona Engineering Department for evaluation.. Until this is done the Newman technology cannot be described as "suppressed" and there is NO conspiracy, except in Joseph Newmans mind/ In fact the National Institute of Standards did run tests. The results were negative.. ANTONY C SUTTON FUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORT DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CORROBORATIVE INFO FROM THE JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS
-Caveat Lector- It is NOT verified unless there is INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. Newman has been citing these journals for years. You can cite all you want. You have zilch until it is done INDEPENDENTLY AS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Should we trust the government?
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for the Waco posting/ Wake up people!.It is no longer "right" and "left" it is "us" versus "them". We have a police state gone crazy,. with a bought Congress. Waco was revived because of stubborn individuals looking for the truth. Not by either of the political parties. Republican or Democrat. Somebody has to stand trial for murder.And a gutless Congress has to open up the other coverups.. ...30 last time we counted Washington has to be cleaned up once and for all..That includes the Bush faction ... . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why the Canisters surfaced NOW after six years.
-Caveat Lector- Danforth ? The same old gamea Blue Ribbon Committee cover up. Can you post more information on Danforth ? Waco murdered everyday citizens ..(plus 26 kids)lets have a couple of everyday citizens on the Committee.. This is supposed to be "government by the people". DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] : Homeopathy
-Caveat Lector- Read Michel Schiff THE MEMORY OF WATER (Homeopathy and the battle of ideas in the new science)Published by Thorsons in England 1994. You may have trouble buying it in the US. Harper Collins told FTIR THE BOOK WAS NOT TO BE IMPORTED. On page 26 you will find the "second curve" based on the work of Dr Jacques Benveniste. in Paris fFUTURE TECHNOLOGY INTELLIGENCE REPORT PO BOX 163477, Sacramento Ca 95816 fFffuture . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Waco's Little Rock Connection
-Caveat Lector- Has anyone seen the original search warrant? Ive been asking this for five years with no answers. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Why Dubya Isn't in JAIL/Why US Presidents so OFTEN ...
-Caveat Lector- Notice how the attack on Clinton seemed to originate in London? And if you take away the token names SB is very much old line English families. No sb's named Dubonnet or Shikelgruber. Push this further. doesnt Bush Sr have a knighthood or something ? and I seem to remember the Constitution forbids foreign decorations. And Harriman even married into the Churchill family. What is this "special relationship" they talk about? It may not be thru the royal family, more likely via the City of London/banks. Wasnt it Disraeli who said somehting about this financial power. . Another line to be pursued is how all the royal families of Europe originated in the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.which get us to the Illuminati. They got you looking for a German connection...but why not an Illuminati connection via European royalty and the private City banks. Who financed all the imperialist wars in the 1i9th century ?. Who profited? Not the thousands of British soldiers killed. The bankers...and a corrupt royal circle enjoying the privileges were the winners.. Follow the money and the money is heavily in the drug trade. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A couple more Conspiracy authors and Biases?
-Caveat Lector- John Think youve got em all.There is a considerable French literature, anti Rothschild, anti semetic. Coleman puzzles me. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy authors and Biases?
-Caveat Lector- I am glad you put the question mark after Pro-British?, I left England in 1952 (thats almost half a century ago) I was disgusted with socialism. I have been a US citizen since 196l. Before I left England I was told in no uncertain terms that I was going to be blacklisted Hardly a background to be pro-British !!.. There is not one scrap of evidence to support the statement. It is the kind of rumor that gets floated around by people with nothing better to do than speculate. A little thought would suggest that someone who is anti-imperialist would hardly favor a country with Britains notorious imperialist history. I am pro-freedom, pro-the individual and anti-statist, whatever the name of the state. And I fully admit to these biases. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Query for Anthony Sutton
-Caveat Lector- This is what I have been working on these last ten years. Anomalies have been disregarded by science. These have accumulated. New. technology like cold fusion and transmutation has enormously difficult time to emerge because of vested interest in the status quo.. The emerging technology is a powerful spiritual technology.. Best example is etheric weather engineering... Biology ignores life energy and the lust for control has taken it into genetic manipulation...which will fade away. Biotechnology will be replaced by a life centered biology. Energy probably by zero point energy from space. This tech cannot be politically controlled.. I have a book THE VIEW FROM 4-SPACE which discusses this emerging tech. It is typeset but not published. I make it available to readers of FTIR. Will be happy to send no charge sample issue of FTIR. Send # 10 self addressed envelope. to FTIR, PO Box 164377, Sacramento Ca 95816. . Why are the Chinese so concerned with Galun Fong? A simple system based on chi. They know from their history the power of these spiritual systems. It cannot be suppressed. It comes from the individual spirit and reflects universal truth. If you are a conventional scientist this will be tough for you.your textbook will only take you so far TONY SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Project Echelon: worldwide WIRETAP, Congress, NSA butt...
-Caveat Lector- More floss.The Committee Chairman is Rep Peter Goss ( R-Florida) Goss is former CIA COVERT OPERATIONS.. We call it conflict of interest, the Congress calls it business as usual. How far is investigation of Echelon going with this Chairman? Then youve always got the "standard denial" gambit The intelligence agencies give themselves the right to lie about ANYTHINGand they even stamp it on their forms. Read Rodney Stich DEFRAUDING AMERICA A free and peaceful world doesnt need a system like ECHELON. Scrap it! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Project Echelon: worldwide WIRETAP, Congress,NSA butt...
-Caveat Lector- Bill Yup! You got it. The Hegelian dialect in operation You cant have war without an enemy or more war for more peace T. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DEFENSES AGAINST DROUGHT AND TERMINATOR SEEDS
-Caveat Lector- FTIR publishes a report' WATER FROM THE AIR. age old methods of generating water from the air..even in the desert. Eight methods described including air wells, dew ponds and fog screens With diagrams and construction details $20.00 from FTIR PO Box 2903, Sacramento CA 95812 FTIR also reports this month "The end of biotechnology"...US press is NOT reporting the furor elsewhere in the world against Monsanto/ genetically engineered products/, terminator seeds DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] financing Nazis
-Caveat Lector- Damian B Cooper must be sensitive about this issue to use a phrase like "old shop worm propaganda crapola". Damian you dont know beans about Nazi financing. About 1968 I was rooting around in the Hoover Instituion tower and found a batch of German bank transfer slips.Delbruch Shickler Bank in Berlin. Transfers from US firms and individuals to National Treuhand, Hitlers slush fund. Dont believe me? Call Buccaneer Books in New York and order a copy of WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER by Antony C Sutton. I included 5or 6 copies. Anti-German bias? I sure detest Nazis and their wimpy imitators in the US but I also lived 2 years in Germany, long enough to appreciate the culture On the other hand if you came up thru the present "education" system, that memorial to John Dewey, I can't be too hard on you. It s not your fault. ANTONY C SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked
-Caveat Lector- Re: domain blocked: GE FOODS. This sounds like NSA.workFew months ago the private conversations of the British Minister for Health-- who is pro labelling- were intercepted and given to Monsanto. This is pure fascism. The Government works for a select few firms.!. This interception caused a fury in England. The press in the US has not reported the storm of protest against GE products in Europe.The September issue of FTIR is devoted entirely to the dangers of GE products and the GE controversy. FTIR has never accepted GE as a "future technology'...its all about control of food supply. ( Single issue $5, PO Box 2903 Sacramento CA 95812) It is extraordinary that US Government would risk relations with friendly countries just to help out Monsanto. A little research needed hereWe remember Bobby Inman who runs NSA say that NSA would NEVER help private firms. And those wimpy marshmallows in Congress wont do anything as we state in this months FTIR check out your food intake. You cant rely on Washington DC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]
-Caveat Lector- Faction Three ? More deception! These statist crooks have always prided themselves on "pragmatism" and "deception" FactionThree is just another route to split a growing awareness and oppositon. The REAL problem is statism and corruption.and none of these power hungry maniacs will drop these objectives. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Corporate Mysticism
-Caveat Lector- John Dewey and Bertrand Russell "foes of repressive insitutions'? Where did you find that canard ? read the history of Hegelian thought my friend.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nixon and Watergate Bibliography
-Caveat Lector- K has anyone checked SB list against this biblio? there is a link in the Kennedy assassination. Why not include ASE on the list, ? it might spark some work. Your package will go out tomorrow.. I got enough info for you to describe one rig, owned by Bush in detail, including names of CIA personnel.on board. T DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco
-Caveat Lector- How long have you been around? It COULD be Chinese disinformation, but I doubt it.. On the other hand the Government does so many stupid things its hard to avoid the idea of conspriacy. Example: Washington built up the USSR with "trade" and technology. Catalogued in my book BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY. in 1972. Instead of thanks for the work I got insults,harassment, threats and finally kicked out of Stanford. Now Washington wants to build up China with technology,same policy that was behind the Cold War. You can call it greed, conspiracy, stupidity Or a mix of all these things...Most likely is corporate self interest facilitated by access money. To be sure one can take conspiracy too far...and Waco to me seems no more than a police state gone crazy I am moving to the conclusion-after 50 years of research- that the system is corrupt and the most corrupt float to the top Simple as that... It could be that Waco revival is deception.that means that Clinton and Bush are in collusion. If you know whats coming down the road in the CIA/COCAINE/ MENA/BUSH mess certainly it points to collusion...but only on this one topic The simple fact of greed and the need to cover past sins explains an awful lot.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] more on Wackenhut (pt. 1)
-Caveat Lector- Interesting fact on Wackenhut. They have only ONE office in Germany, France or Japan. Large industrial countries. Wackenhut has 12 OFFICES IN Colombia and 6 in Ecuador. This points to a cocaine interest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton/. Bush Cocaine Problems
-Caveat Lector- It looks as if we might have a President and a Governor with cocaine problems...this is NEWS. "Rumors" says Mr Bush. These rumors have been around for years...its time the evidence was examined. When the same information comes from an LAPD Narcotics Detective, a Congressional Counsel, fomer CIA operatives, Special Forces officers, a Congresswoman .and many other solid sources...any sensible citizen says " "lets take a look at their arguments and evidence". What we are getting is cover up. .Why doesnt Senator Kerry (Narcotics sub committee) release the data in his files ? Is he covering for Bush and Clinton? ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush Refuses to Answer Rumors of Cocaine
-Caveat Lector- What kind of Governor is Bush Jr ? we are finding out. He sure doesnt like the tough questionshe is the ONLY candidate that refused to answer the cocaine question. Clinton at least would give you a tightly defined legalese answer. This guy just refuses to answer ! Thats an insult.and pretty dumb too.. Guaranteed to fire up the press and the public. It is the cover up that hurts, not the truth. Bush should fire his advisers and get some people with their feet on the ground. asu.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany
-Caveat Lector- k One minor point...he says word of the end of the war came before "evening chow". His memory is off. I took the cease fire radio message for our little unit and it was 6AM...in the early morning. T DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
