Bug#792481: kwin: build libkwinglutils6 for mips and mipsel
Package: kwin
Version: 4:5.3.2-1
Tags: sid patch
Severity: important
Justification: FTBFS
User: debian-m...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: mips-patch
Package kwin FTBFS for mips/mipsel with a fallowing error:
dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkwinglutils.so.6 needed by
debian/kwin-common/usr/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/libkwin.so.5.3.2 (ELF format:
'elf32-tradlittlemips'; RPATH: '')
https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php?pkg=kwinver=4%3A5.3.2-1suite=sid
The mentioned library (libkwinglutils.so.6) is compiled fog mips/el but the
problem is that
package libkwinglutils6 that should contain this lib, is not listed for mips
archs.
Adding mips and mipsel in debian/contol fixes this issue for me.
Could you please include these changes?
The patch is attached.
Regards,
Dejandiff -uNr kwin-5.3.2.orig/debian/control kwin-5.3.2/debian/control
--- kwin-5.3.2.orig/debian/control 2015-07-07 21:01:02.0 +
+++ kwin-5.3.2/debian/control 2015-07-15 10:37:15.0 +
@@ -178,7 +178,7 @@
Package: libkwinglutils6
Section: libs
-Architecture: amd64 arm64 i386 powerpc ppc64el
+Architecture: amd64 arm64 i386 powerpc ppc64el mips mipsel
Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}
Breaks: libkwinglutils5 ( 4:5.2.0)
Replaces: libkwinglutils5 ( 4:5.2.0)
Bug#792480: libkscreensaver.so.5.0.0: kded4[4431]: segfault at 8 ip aaf16ec8 sp bfcbf42c
Package: libkscreensaver5 Version: 4:4.11.13-2 Severity: important File: libkscreensaver.so.5.0.0 Dear Maintainer, *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? * What was the outcome of this action? * What outcome did you expect instead? *** End of the template - remove these template lines *** -- System Information: Debian Release: stretch/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (650, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (500, 'oldstable-updates'), (500, 'oldstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 4.0.0-2-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_AT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_AT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: unable to detect Versions of packages libkscreensaver5 depends on: ii libc62.19-18 ii libkdecore5 4:4.14.2-5 ii libkdeui54:4.14.2-5 ii libqtcore4 4:4.8.7+dfsg-1 ii libqtgui44:4.8.7+dfsg-1 ii libstdc++6 5.1.1-12 ii libx11-6 2:1.6.3-1 libkscreensaver5 recommends no packages. libkscreensaver5 suggests no packages. -- no debconf information from kern.log: Jul 15 08:34:59 9398 kernel: [ 125.407854] kded4[4431]: segfault at 8 ip aaf16ec8 sp bfcbf42c error 4 in libkscreen.so.1.0.4[aaf08000+16000] HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150715085527.9688.77223.reportbug@9398
Bug#792289:
I think it miss the dependence to kio package. In my case the error was: couldn't create slave: Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'. After the kio package installation all work correctly. Regards, Zidagar
Bug#792478: ksnakeduel: does not start from krunner/kickoff due to missing libkdeinit5_ksnakeduel.so
Package: ksnakeduel Version: 4:15.04.3-1 Severity: normal Dear Maxy, Maintainer, Alt-F2 ksnakeduel or starting it via kickoff menu gives: KDEInit kann „ksnakeduel“ nicht starten: Bibliothek „/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_ksnakeduel“ lässt sich nicht öffnen. Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_ksnakeduel: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_ksnakeduel.so: Kann die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) (means cannot load ksnakeduel due to the missing library / shared object) It is possible to start it from a Konsole terminal just fine. Thanks, Martin -- System Information: Debian Release: stretch/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 4.1.0-tp520-btrfstrim-pstatetrace+ (SMP w/4 CPU cores; PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init) Versions of packages ksnakeduel depends on: ii kde-runtime 4:14.12.3-1 ii libc62.19-19 ii libkdecore5 4:4.14.2-5 ii libkdegames6abi1 4:4.14.2-1 ii libkdegamesprivate1abi1 4:4.14.2-1 ii libkdeui54:4.14.2-5 ii libqt4-svg 4:4.8.7+dfsg-1 ii libqtcore4 4:4.8.7+dfsg-1 ii libqtgui44:4.8.7+dfsg-1 ii libstdc++6 5.1.1-14 Versions of packages ksnakeduel recommends: ii khelpcenter 4:5.3.2-2 ksnakeduel suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150715084025.11818.61304.reportbug@merkaba.lichtvoll
Smooth tasks
Hello, I am co-maintainer of smooth tasks. Upstream has still activity but there are no commits in the direction of supporting plasma 5. Meanwhile, there is a plasmoid in plasma5 that does something similar, but I think overall it's rather crappy. For example it groups windows and has no option to not do so. I have written a bug to upstream but if they don't respond I suppose the package will have to be removed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caoonqaepnmfapbhqhsrpuhyb-pnz9bos5lrttojlqn7of1b...@mail.gmail.com
Missing window controls
I have upgraded (without experimental in my sources list) My windows lack furniture; can't be resized, minimised or closed and all re= nder in the top left of the window. Various windows and dialogue boxes don'= t accept typed input, which makes it difficult to put passwords in. Xrender= and the alternative compositor both seem to work well. I have tried both b= reeze and oxygen icons, and can't see a preview of the alternative wallpape= rs or indeed navigate to the photo I was using before Which package (s) am I likely missing? anxiousmac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGG+nC1pO9DxZjjs6GdXszX9=yhky8vz8nezkuv5dazq9j5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
Sometimes, the desktop does not come up. I have yakuake active so can get that. Top reveals no (or dormant) plasmashell. Happens more often as second session. Usually requires a reboot to get up again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3086801.ByTahDqadE@dovidhalevi
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
On Wednesday 15 July 2015 16:46:33 Josep Febrer wrote: El Dimarts, 14 de juliol de 2015, a les 19:49:11, Michael Schuerig va escriure: I think we're talking about two different things. I know that you get a process viewer out of the box when pressing Ctrl-Esc. That's not what I want. I'm trying to rebind it to launch KSysGuard proper with my own custom tabs. Incidentally, I have the same problem with some other KDE apps as well. I can't create global shortcuts, in the way described above, for Kate, for instance, whereas I can create a shortcut for KCalc and non-KDE apps in general. Did you have installed any appmenu related packages? I did, and until I removed them I got some strange behaviors that were gone when I uninstalled them. How would I know what the packages in question are? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/15969454.WkHTTP16mV@fuchsia
Bug#792499: marked as done (kio: FTBFS on mipsel)
Your message dated Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:01:51 -0400 with message-id 65967e3e-0326-42a8-9ba3-e1c49627f...@kitterman.com and subject line Re: Bug#792499: kio: FTBFS on mipsel has caused the Debian Bug report #792499, regarding kio: FTBFS on mipsel to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 792499: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792499 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems ---BeginMessage--- Package: kio Severity: important Dear maintainer, kio FTBFS on mipsel [0]. At first glance, it seems the build-deps on libkf5* libs should be bumped to = 5.12. [...] CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:47 (find_package): Could not find a configuration file for package KF5Bookmarks that is compatible with requested version 5.12.0. The following configuration files were considered but not accepted: /usr/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5Bookmarks/KF5BookmarksConfig.cmake, version: 5.11.0 [...] I will try to reproduce the issue locally in my mipsel machine and do some test and will let you know. Thanks, best regards. [0] https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=kioarch=mipselver=5.12.0-1stamp=1436932055 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Yes. That would have been ideal. I'm most of the way through retrying everything in the right order so it'll build. I'm possibly two to four dinstalls away from having kio built. No need for bugs on transient issues like this. Thanks for paying attention though. Scott K On July 15, 2015 8:52:04 AM EDT, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez arturo.borrero.g...@gmail.com wrote: Package: kio Severity: important Dear maintainer, kio FTBFS on mipsel [0]. At first glance, it seems the build-deps on libkf5* libs should be bumped to = 5.12. [...] CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:47 (find_package): Could not find a configuration file for package KF5Bookmarks that is compatible with requested version 5.12.0. The following configuration files were considered but not accepted: /usr/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5Bookmarks/KF5BookmarksConfig.cmake, version: 5.11.0 [...] I will try to reproduce the issue locally in my mipsel machine and do some test and will let you know. Thanks, best regards. [0] https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=kioarch=mipselver=5.12.0-1stamp=1436932055 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150715125204.8439.41002.report...@deathstar.cica.es ---End Message---
Re: Missing window controls
On Wednesday 15 July 2015 09:41:11 Angus Mackenzie wrote: Which package (s) am I likely missing? kwin-x11 -- GPG: 0x138E41915C7EFED6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Processed: severity of 775990 is normal
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: severity 775990 normal Bug #775990 [akonadi-backend-sqlite] [akonadi-backend-sqlite] Akonadi reports deadlocks Severity set to 'normal' from 'important' thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 775990: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775990 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/handler.s.c.143696253027559.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
On Wednesday 15 July 2015 22:13:49 Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Akonadi reports deadlocks. I tried to reproduce this problem and sure it looks scary but do we have a real problem beyond this warning? In my testing this warning followed by retrying transaction and everything works just fine so IMHO it appears to be harmless. Besides deadlock disappear with upgrading to sqlite3/3.8.10.2-1 from testing. I'm lowering severity to normal for now. I am running sid, so I have 3.8.10.2-1 and I am still getting these deadlocks. What gives you the idea that they shoud have gone away? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1720478.REN4CxZ3x9@stargate
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
El Dimecres, 15 de juliol de 2015, a les 19:47:33, Michael Schuerig va escriure: How would I know what the packages in question are? appmenu-qt Best regards, Josep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1624565.IPsyDnnbAu@josep
Bug#780996: kscreen: Prevents using xset dpms force suspend
After an unrelated system reinstall, I've noticed that Kscreen does work as intended and allows the screen to sleep. However, after I installed bumblebee/primus for my Nvidia card, the behavior I described in the bug report shows up again, and the screen can't be put to sleep unless Kscreen is disabled. Should I open a new bug on the bumblebee package instead of here? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55a6a3f1.7050...@gmail.com
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
Akonadi reports deadlocks. I tried to reproduce this problem and sure it looks scary but do we have a real problem beyond this warning? In my testing this warning followed by retrying transaction and everything works just fine so IMHO it appears to be harmless. Besides deadlock disappear with upgrading to sqlite3/3.8.10.2-1 from testing. I'm lowering severity to normal for now. -- Cheers, Dmitry Smirnov GPG key : 4096R/53968D1B --- Each generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it. -- George Orwell, Review of A Coat of Many Colours: Occasional Essays by Herbert Read, Poetry Quarterly (Winter 1945) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#792286: plasma-workspace: web shortcuts don't work
On 13/07/15 16:55, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: in Kde4, you could type gg:debian into krunner to start a browser and search debian on google. Now, krunner seems to still have a module for that, and these shortcuts are configured inside konqueror (where they work) but they don't seem to work inside krunner. It would be nice to have this functionality back. I couldn't reproduce this issue, but the web shortcuts were disabled by default in krunner, and it doesn't use konqueror anymore but the browser set in the preferred applications. Can you check if the web shortcuts are enabled in the krunner settings, and if your preferred browser points to some sensible option? Happy hacking, -- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra Saludos /\/\ /\ `/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#631697: marked as done (akonadi-server: akonadi can't find mysql)
Your message dated Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:06:06 +1000 with message-id 1738709.SZ7S0BzQ1N@deblab and subject line Done: akonadi-server: akonadi can't find mysql has caused the Debian Bug report #631697, regarding akonadi-server: akonadi can't find mysql to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 631697: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631697 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems ---BeginMessage--- Package: akonadi-server Version: 1.5.3-2 Severity: normal akonadi can't find mysql (actually located in /usr/sbin/mysqld), so it expects the user to manually find it and insert in there. Somehow i think my grandmother couldn't do it, so i suggest to patch akonadi to look in /usr/sbin by default. (it actually is in my path but akonadi doesn't seem to look into it). Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.38.8-anfitea (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages akonadi-server depends on: ii akonadi-backend-mysql 1.5.3-2MySQL storage backend for Akonadi ii libakonadiprotocolinterna 1.5.3-2libraries for the Akonadi PIM stor ii libboost-program-options1 1.46.1-6 program options library for C++ ii libc6 2.13-7 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libgcc1 1:4.6.0-14 GCC support library ii libqt4-dbus 4:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 D-Bus module ii libqt4-network4:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 network module ii libqt4-sql4:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 SQL module ii libqt4-xml4:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 XML module ii libqtcore44:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 core module ii libqtgui4 4:4.7.3-3 Qt 4 GUI module ii libsoprano4 2.6.0+dfsg.1-4 libraries for the Soprano RDF fram ii libstdc++64.6.0-14 GNU Standard C++ Library v3 akonadi-server recommends no packages. Versions of packages akonadi-server suggests: ii akonadi-backend-mysql 1.5.3-2MySQL storage backend for Akonadi pn akonadi-backend-postgresqlnone (no description available) pn akonadi-backend-sqlitenone (no description available) -- no debconf information ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Package: akonadi-server Version: 1.13.0-4 I believe this bug is no longer relevant so I'm closing it. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 631...@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. -- Best wishes, Dmitry Smirnov signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ---End Message---
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
On Thursday 16 July 2015 00:19:59 Dmitry Smirnov wrote: I wonder if upstream having plans to decommission akonadi as it seems to be our only hope unless they manage to magically fix it... Apparently some work is underway with Akonadi Next https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Akonadi_Next -- GPG: 0x138E41915C7EFED6 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#792286: plasma-workspace: web shortcuts don't work
On Wednesday 15 July 2015 14:36:14 Maximiliano Curia wrote: Can you check if the web shortcuts are enabled in the krunner settings Yes, enabled. and if your preferred browser points to some sensible option? It did not, I had to manually set that in systemsettings5 Also, to make things work, I manually had to install kio and a bunch of random qml stuff, otherwise the entire plasma5 doesn't do much. The problem is that I don't know exactly what I did, and possibly you did the same on your machine so that is why it works for you (as it does for me now, after doing all that) Best -- Salvo Tomaselli Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di senso, ragione ed intelletto intendesse che noi ne facessimo a meno. -- Galileo Galilei http://ltworf.github.io/ltworf/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
Hi David, On 15/07/15 23:34, David Goodenough wrote: My prefered DBM is Postgresql, but it has real problems when updating in that it does not automatically upgrade DBs on update, at least the way that Debian packages it. Interesting. Something tells me that it must be an upstream problem but if this is a packaging issue then perhaps we can fix it -- we just need more details. Also sometimes, especially on sid you get an update where you can not even use the supplied upgrade scripts and you have to do it manually. Having that underlying my email system is not an acceptable risk. Indeed. Personally I will not have MySql on my machine, I simply do not trust it. Bad experience or abstract theory? Just curious... Since 1.13.0-4 you should be able to use MariaDB or any other MySQL flavour if they are any better... Lots of other systems use Sqlite without problems, [...] I would also prefer SQLite if only akonadi could use it reliably... All in all this is leading me to an inexorable conclusion, I have will have (after many many years) to give up on kmail and move to something else. My problem is what to move to. I really would like to remain within the KDE world as it will then be better integrated, and I need both IMAP and POP - there appears to be little option. I'm with you. I am addicted to KMail and many of its features. IMHO there is no replacement to it... I wonder if upstream having plans to decommission akonadi as it seems to be our only hope unless they manage to magically fix it... -- Regards, Dmitry Smirnov signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
El Dimarts, 14 de juliol de 2015, a les 19:49:11, Michael Schuerig va escriure: I think we're talking about two different things. I know that you get a process viewer out of the box when pressing Ctrl-Esc. That's not what I want. I'm trying to rebind it to launch KSysGuard proper with my own custom tabs. Incidentally, I have the same problem with some other KDE apps as well. I can't create global shortcuts, in the way described above, for Kate, for instance, whereas I can create a shortcut for KCalc and non-KDE apps in general. Did you have installed any appmenu related packages? I did, and until I removed them I got some strange behaviors that were gone when I uninstalled them. Best regards, Josep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2256997.s4m4J7Cm2a@josep
Bug#792499: kio: FTBFS on mipsel
Package: kio Severity: important Dear maintainer, kio FTBFS on mipsel [0]. At first glance, it seems the build-deps on libkf5* libs should be bumped to = 5.12. [...] CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:47 (find_package): Could not find a configuration file for package KF5Bookmarks that is compatible with requested version 5.12.0. The following configuration files were considered but not accepted: /usr/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5Bookmarks/KF5BookmarksConfig.cmake, version: 5.11.0 [...] I will try to reproduce the issue locally in my mipsel machine and do some test and will let you know. Thanks, best regards. [0] https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=kioarch=mipselver=5.12.0-1stamp=1436932055 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150715125204.8439.41002.report...@deathstar.cica.es
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
On 15/07/15 22:38, David Goodenough wrote: I am running sid, so I have 3.8.10.2-1 and I am still getting these deadlocks. What gives you the idea that they shoud have gone away? Experimentation: I fed ~500 MiB maildir folder to akonadi/sqlite and deadlocks disappeared with upgrade of sqlite3/libsqlite. It is quite possible that I did not test long enough however I'm trying to determine whether it is a real error or merely a warning? Can you confirm? By the way I think I've seen some quiet deadlocks (when akonadi doesn't do anything while kmail waits for akonadi) even on backend-mysql. I think akonadi _is_ a problem but I'm just not sure if deadlocks on sqlite are really that bad, comparing to the whole thing. In any case upstream admits that there are problems with concurrent access on sqlite backend: https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Why_not_use_sqlite.3F So as bad as it sounds sqlite just seems to be a poorly supported backend... :( -- Regards, Dmitry Smirnov signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
On Wednesday 15 July 2015 23:16:08 Dmitry Smirnov wrote: On 15/07/15 22:38, David Goodenough wrote: I am running sid, so I have 3.8.10.2-1 and I am still getting these deadlocks. What gives you the idea that they shoud have gone away? Experimentation: I fed ~500 MiB maildir folder to akonadi/sqlite and deadlocks disappeared with upgrade of sqlite3/libsqlite. It is quite possible that I did not test long enough however I'm trying to determine whether it is a real error or merely a warning? Can you confirm? I suspect that doing something essentially sequential does not show deadlocks. I hit this all the time because I have LOTS of mail filters and they seem to happen while processing those - I guess it spawns processes at least for the spam filter. By the way I think I've seen some quiet deadlocks (when akonadi doesn't do anything while kmail waits for akonadi) even on backend-mysql. I think akonadi _is_ a problem but I'm just not sure if deadlocks on sqlite are really that bad, comparing to the whole thing. In any case upstream admits that there are problems with concurrent access on sqlite backend: https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Why_not_use_sqlite.3F So as bad as it sounds sqlite just seems to be a poorly supported backend... :( My prefered DBM is Postgresql, but it has real problems when updating in that it does not automatically upgrade DBs on update, at least the way that Debian packages it. Also sometimes, especially on sid you get an update where you can not even use the supplied upgrade scripts and you have to do it manually. Having that underlying my email system is not an acceptable risk. Personally I will not have MySql on my machine, I simply do not trust it. Lots of other systems use Sqlite without problems, and I have to say that my suspicion is that the problems with akonadi are simply becuase it was implemented by people who did not really understand how to use an SQL DB. For instance, a deadlock is a retryable error, you hit it, rollback your transaction and try again. In development this can lead to problems if you do not plan the order in which you access tables, but this is a basic principle of all SQL DBs. So these errors should never appear as errors, they should just trigger an internal retry. Sqlite has had sufficient locking to get around this problem for a while now, and this suggests tha the ordering of table access has simply not been planned properly. All in all this is leading me to an inexorable conclusion, I have will have (after many many years) to give up on kmail and move to something else. My problem is what to move to. I really would like to remain within the KDE world as it will then be better integrated, and I need both IMAP and POP - there appears to be little option. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/15300265.4JRVSBbMy9@stargate
Bug#775990: akonadi-backend-sqlite: Akonadi reports deadlocks
On Thursday 16 July 2015 00:19:59 Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Hi David, On 15/07/15 23:34, David Goodenough wrote: My prefered DBM is Postgresql, but it has real problems when updating in that it does not automatically upgrade DBs on update, at least the way that Debian packages it. Interesting. Something tells me that it must be an upstream problem but if this is a packaging issue then perhaps we can fix it -- we just need more details. There is a script that can be run (pg_upgradecluster from memory) which does the upgrade, but the postinst for the debs does not use it. I guess there may be times when you do not want it, and originally it did not always work (I have been using pg for a long time), but I have never had a problem with it other than having to run in it manually. Also sometimes, especially on sid you get an update where you can not even use the supplied upgrade scripts and you have to do it manually. Having that underlying my email system is not an acceptable risk. Indeed. Personally I will not have MySql on my machine, I simply do not trust it. Bad experience or abstract theory? Just curious... Its rather like the difference between Access and MS-SQL, one is the full function, the other is a simplified version designed to make life quick and easy. Again this is my email system, I want something reliable and which follows all the SQL rules (MySql and its variants do not). Since 1.13.0-4 you should be able to use MariaDB or any other MySQL flavour if they are any better... Lots of other systems use Sqlite without problems, [...] I would also prefer SQLite if only akonadi could use it reliably... All in all this is leading me to an inexorable conclusion, I have will have (after many many years) to give up on kmail and move to something else. My problem is what to move to. I really would like to remain within the KDE world as it will then be better integrated, and I need both IMAP and POP - there appears to be little option. I'm with you. I am addicted to KMail and many of its features. IMHO there is no replacement to it... I wonder if upstream having plans to decommission akonadi as it seems to be our only hope unless they manage to magically fix it... There was talk of an Akonadi2, but I am not sure what happens to its DB usage. The other odd thing is that if I read its architecture page on kde.org correctly Baloo (the Nepomuk replacement) uses SqLite. I do not use Baloo consciously, but it lurks in the bowels of KDE and seems to work. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/62490499.xqnbJykhQP@stargate
