Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Lameter
Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
build in.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:

: Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
: distribute spam?

: From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
: compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
: address all over the world.

: The original post from compuserve and the resultong hundreds of
: outgoings all have the same ID. Is this due to BSMTP?

: If I add a 

: -bsmtp 

: to the pipe: section of the transports file will I break anything?

: Is there some way that I can restrict use of the | thingy to local
: users only? ie mail that originates on the server, as against mail
: from outside (that is compuserve)?

: Is there a resource out on the Internet that will point me in the
: right direction?

: Wot a lot of questions!

: John Foster




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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread George Bonser
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

 Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
 build in.
 

I hope to install a unique system this week that uses exim to handle email
to the internet and smail handling the extensive uucp network that it
interfaces with.

I am assuming from my initial review of the documents that I need to build
a domain database of the uucp sites that I will pass mail to and then
build a director using a pipe transport to move bsmtp to smail for
transmission to the uucp sites.

My question is if anyone else has interfaced exim to a uucp setup with
multiple uucp neighbors and if they would share what they learned. My
reason for using smail and not simply piping the mail to uux is that I
want to take advantage of smail's rsmtp for sending email to some of the
uucp sites.  Smail is great for a large uucp network that is constantly
changing its connectivity and routing.  Its pathalias path file routing
table is great.

George Bonser
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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Lameter
Exim can do table lookups as you wish and its very easy compared to what
I have seen from smail. Get on the exim mailing  list:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

for details regarding how to configure exim for that purpose.

You also might also want to have a look at the exim web site

http://www.exim.org

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

 Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
 build in.
 

I hope to install a unique system this week that uses exim to handle email
to the internet and smail handling the extensive uucp network that it
interfaces with.

I am assuming from my initial review of the documents that I need to build
a domain database of the uucp sites that I will pass mail to and then
build a director using a pipe transport to move bsmtp to smail for
transmission to the uucp sites.

My question is if anyone else has interfaced exim to a uucp setup with
multiple uucp neighbors and if they would share what they learned. My
reason for using smail and not simply piping the mail to uux is that I
want to take advantage of smail's rsmtp for sending email to some of the
uucp sites.  Smail is great for a large uucp network that is constantly
changing its connectivity and routing.  Its pathalias path file routing
table is great.

George Bonser
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/etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions

1997-06-23 Thread Rob MacWilliams
Hi all,

I installed 1.3 on a clean machine this week using the 30 May '97 series of 
disks.  The install went
smoothly except for two things.  The X Windows 3.3 in unstable has the same 
problem that has
been discussed in this list, (Lack of tty0), so  I won't go into that.

However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root -rw--- 
permissions.  This
sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out.  It was weird, my normal 
account would dial and 
login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup failure.  I 
could even su to root
and things would work fine.

To make this short, I changed the permissions to root/dip -rw-r- and things 
are fine now.  I
would appreciate hearing comments.  I'll try to track down the offending 
package and file a bug
report, but with my skill level, that may take a while.

Debian is a great system, this is my second.


Thanks


Rob




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Re: /etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions

1997-06-23 Thread George Bonser

 However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root 
 -rw--- permissions.  This
 sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out.  It was weird, my 
 normal account would dial and 
 login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup failure.  
 I could even su to root
 and things would work fine.

Interesting.  On my 1.1 upgraded to 1.2 and then to 1.3 system the file is

-rw-r--r--  and owned by root.root



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fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread Tim Bell
Hi,

I installed the latest gcc/libc5 (and other compiling tools) from unstable,
had problems, so I've reinstalled the stable versions. But now I get:

/usr/include/string.h:33: stddef.h: No such file or directory

etc, despite the fact that /usr/include/linux/stddef.h exists.

I'm sure I've done something really stupid and obvious: can anyone point
it out to me please?

Thanks,

Tim Bell
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Re: /etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions

1997-06-23 Thread Rob MacWilliams
 
  However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root 
  -rw--- permissions.  This
  sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out.  It was weird, my 
  normal account would dial and 
  login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup failure. 
   I could even su to root
  and things would work fine.
 
 Interesting.  On my 1.1 upgraded to 1.2 and then to 1.3 system the file is
 
 -rw-r--r--and owned by root.root
 
 
 
 George Bonser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

I think I found the source of the problem, I copied the file using ftp from the 
machine I already
have setup.  That would change the permissions.  Sorry about the waste of 
bandwidth, it's
obvious who knows what they're doing.  Not me.

Thanks

Rob


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emacs ispell

1997-06-23 Thread John M. Rulnick
Using emacs_19.34-11.deb with ispell_3.1.18-11.deb or
ispell_3.1.20-0.1.deb, attempting to use any ispell function (for
example, M-$) within emacs, I get the message

  ispell did not output version line

and the command fails.  Strange.  So I'd be grateful to anyone who can
clue me in to what's wrong.  I'm running Debian 1.3 and Linux 2.1.43.

Thanks.

John

P.S. Note that 'ispell -v' from the command line yields

  @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 10/10/95
  @(#) Copyright (c), 1983, by Pace Willisson
  @(#) International version Copyright (c) 1987, 1988, 1990-1995,
  [etc.]


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Re: CDROM with DOSish hidden files? SOLUTION (?)

1997-06-23 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Jun 22, Heiko Schlittermann wrote
: Hi out there,
: 
: I'd like to copy (for private use, of course) a CDROM.  This CDROM
: is usable under DOS/Windows and contains files with the DOSish
: hidden/system attribute.  Mounting this CDROM on Linux works, but
: these hidden files are really unvisible, this uncopyable with
: find | cpio.  (By the way, this makes the CDROM unusable under WABI,
: since WABI relies on the mounted ISO(?)-filesystem).
 

As  ``Yury Onischuck [EMAIL PROTECTED]'' pointed out, there
is an ``unhide'' option.  RTFM mount, and search for ``unhide''.


Problaby to simple ;-)  And I should read the manpages at least
once every year.

Thanks.

That's what I call _REAL_ support.


Heiko
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Re: gs-aladdin pdf files

1997-06-23 Thread jdassen
On Jun 19, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote
   I'm trying to print/view a pdf encrypted file without any success.
 I can read it with acroread but when I try to print, gs is not able to
 process it. Even if I try to save it to a file and then to use gv/gs to
 see, I can't. xpdf program failed too! 
   Does somebody have success in printing pdf encrypted files?
   Any help is welcome.
 
   PS.: I didn't have a postscript printer! I use magicfilter and
 of course, gs.

URL:http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geoffk/pdfencrypt/ has patches; I haven't
tried them myself.

HTH,
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Re: Problem with ddd

1997-06-23 Thread jdassen
On Jun 22, Holger Rusch wrote
 first:
 [$]  dpkg -l lesstif ddd
 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
 | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
 |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
 uppercase=bad)
 ||/ NameVersionDescription
 +++-===-==-
 ii  lesstif 0.76-1 OSF/Motif implementation released under 
 LGPL
 ii  ddd 2.1-3  The Data Display Debugger, a graphical 
 front
  ^

When I made the 2.1 beta, and 2.1 packages, I was a bit too optimistic about
DDD working with lesstif. The 2.1.1 package (should be on ftp.debian.org
now) contains fixes for DDD to work better with lesstif (these fixes come
from the DDD authors).

Please upgrade to 2.1.1, and let me know if you still have problems.

Ray
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procps.

1997-06-23 Thread Udjat -Whoo

I installed the new version of procps and the free program well...

[bitgate]udjat ~ $ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 31000  26112   4888   7124   6684
-/+ buffers:194284192508 ---I dont thinks so!
Swap:32756   1524  31232  13740

Any Ideas?

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Ypbind problem

1997-06-23 Thread Sami Laine
I have a small problem with ypbind. Master NIS server is running at
192.168.1.100 (network 192.168.96/255.255.255.224) and client machine
is at 192.168.1.37 (network 192.168.1.32/255.255.255.224).

When I start ypbind it tries to find out master server by broadcasts, even
if I specify domain and server with 'ypbind -S office,192.168.1.100'.

I have also placed following info into /etc/yp.conf:

domain office
nisserver 192.168.1.100

But I assume /etc/yp.conf doesn't do anything because Debian 1.3.0 doesn't
have NIS support compiled into C-library.

I found syntax of /etc/nsswitch.conf a bit confusing too, but I assume
following entries enable NIS lookups for passwd and group:

passwd: files db
group:  files db

I other systems I've seen 'db' replaced with 'nis', but this should do same
thing?

Maybe someone has solved my problem and has been able to use NIS server from
another subnetwork?

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Re: Ypbind problem

1997-06-23 Thread Swen Thuemmler
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Sami Laine wrote:

 I have a small problem with ypbind. Master NIS server is running at
 192.168.1.100 (network 192.168.96/255.255.255.224) and client machine
 is at 192.168.1.37 (network 192.168.1.32/255.255.255.224).
 
 When I start ypbind it tries to find out master server by broadcasts, even
 if I specify domain and server with 'ypbind -S office,192.168.1.100'.
 
 I have also placed following info into /etc/yp.conf:
 
 domain office
 nisserver 192.168.1.100
 
 But I assume /etc/yp.conf doesn't do anything because Debian 1.3.0 doesn't
 have NIS support compiled into C-library.
 
 I found syntax of /etc/nsswitch.conf a bit confusing too, but I assume
 following entries enable NIS lookups for passwd and group:
 
 passwd:   files db
 group:files db
 
 I other systems I've seen 'db' replaced with 'nis', but this should do same
 thing?
 
 Maybe someone has solved my problem and has been able to use NIS server from
 another subnetwork?

You need a different ypbind. Debian comes with the ported BSD ypbind,
which does not support binding to servers in another subnet. I currently
have no debian package of my ypbind (I'm planning on doing this, but lack
the time at the moment), but you should be able to compile and install it
without problems (you find it on
ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/linux/local/yp/ypbind-3.2.tar.gz). This
version is much more stable than older versions, perhaps it can be
included into the standard Debian NIS package. 

Before you make install, you might want to 
dpkg-divert --add --rename --divert /usr/sbin/ypbind.bsd /usr/sbin/ypbind
dpkg-divert --add --rename --divert /usr/man/man8/ypbind.bsd.8.gz 
/usr/man/man8/ypbind.8.gz

Hope this helps.

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Cron root@yogi atrun -d -l 0.5 (fwd) What does this error mean ?

1997-06-23 Thread Stan Brown
I sudenly started getting this message from my Debian box. I have not
chnaged anythig on the Debian box. I did reboot anothermachine on the
network yesterday. Does anyone have any ideas what this might mean ?

Thanks.

Forwarded message:
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 23 05:34:13 EDT 1997
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 05:34:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] atrun -d -l 0.5
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root

yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out



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Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread Emilio Lopes
 TB == Tim Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

TB I installed the latest gcc/libc5 (and other compiling tools) from
TB unstable, had problems, so I've reinstalled the stable
TB versions. But now I get:

TB /usr/include/string.h:33: stddef.h: No such file or directory

TB etc, despite the fact that /usr/include/linux/stddef.h exists.

TB I'm sure I've done something really stupid and obvious: can anyone
TB point it out to me please?

The problem is that you have a version of cpp that's incompatible with
gcc. They have to have the *same* version number.

This is a *known* bug in the gcc package (it should have the right
dependencies), but the gcc maintainer does not seem to think it's
important enough to do a fix in stable. Look at the bug list for gcc
at http://www.debian.org.

I think he should at least watch this list. I posted a query for help,
just like yours, twice, and got no answer. Almost two weeks with no
idea of what was going on.

If this stable is going to be there for 2 or 3 months, this bug should
be fixed. 

Regards, Emilio.

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RE: dpkg reports problems with package files

1997-06-23 Thread Matthew
I have had exactly the same problems with the same packages off the
Tri-Linux CD. Looks like the CD image is a bit dodgey.


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Cc:The recipient's address is unknown.
Subject:   dpkg reports problems with package files

I installed Debian 1.3 from the recent Tri-Linux CD.  When dselect was going
through the packagesin the Install step, the following error message was 
reported:

dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in
/var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/stable/binary/sound/timidity-patches_0.1-1.deb
dpkg: error processing
/var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/stable/binary/sound/timidity-patches_0.1-1.deb
(--install):
  subprocess dpkg-deb -- control returned error exit status 2

I got the same error for each of the following packages:

   gnat_3.09-1
   lesstif-dev_0.76-1
   lesstif-dbg_0.76-1
   lesstif-bin_0.76-1
   timidity-patches_0.1-1
   xbooks_3.2-6

Fortunately, I wasn't trying to install any of the above.  My questions are:

* Is this a problem with the package file, the CD, dpkg, or something else?

* Should this be reported somewhere, or is it a well-known problem (or maybe
  not a problem at all)?

* Is there some place where I can get an errata of known problems for 1.3?
  (I ran into 2 others; one was a problem with the serial module which I
  finally figured out how to fix after nearly a week, and a problem with 
  xdm reporting invalid login for valid passwords.  I found a possible
  solution to that one by searching the debian mailing lists; I'll try it 
  as soon as I send this message and leave Windows95. :-))

Thanks.

- Ed


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Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread Tim Bell
Emilio Lopes wrote:
 
  TB == Tim Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 TB I'm sure I've done something really stupid and obvious: can anyone
 TB point it out to me please?
 
 The problem is that you have a version of cpp that's incompatible with
 gcc. They have to have the *same* version number.

I don't think that's the problem. (I've been trying gcc/cpp 2.7.2.1-8 and
gcc/cpp 2.7.2.2-5.)

What I *used* to have was gcc/cpp 2.7.2.2-4, and that worked. But of
course it's been replaced by 2.7.2.2-5 now. Can I get a copy of the old
package somewhere? It's not on my local mirror.

Thanks,

Tim.


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Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
Emilio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is a *known* bug in the gcc package (it should have the right
 dependencies), but the gcc maintainer does not seem to think it's
 important enough to do a fix in stable. Look at the bug list for gcc
 at http://www.debian.org.

Actually Galen fixed this in -5.

 gcc (2.7.2.2-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * More updated m68k patches
   * Now conflicts with libc5-dev (#10006, #10112)
   * More strict Depends: cpp, prevents version mismatch (#9954)

 I think he should at least watch this list.

I think it's unfair for you to demand (by implication) that every
developer read debian.user, it's not low-volume and people only have a
limited amount of time.

 If this stable is going to be there for 2 or 3 months, this bug
 should be fixed.

As I understand it, this is a problem which occurs when upgrading to
unstable/, if one is tracking stable/ it won't matter (no new versions
of gcc/cpp - no chance for them to get out of sync).  And since the
fix is now (or will be) in unstable, I think your point is moot.

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RE: trouble mounting LMS 206 CD-ROM to complete debian load from CD-ROM

1997-06-23 Thread Matthew
It gave one long beep and eight short beeps.  I don't have the AMI
bios documentation to tell me what the beeps mean, but I figured
[snip]

I have had those beeps before with an AMI bios machine. When I had them
I found that the Video Card had come loose. I re-seated it and the
Machine worked fine. Other than that it could be a faulty video card. If
the machine is quite old, the edge connector could need cleaning, a
rubber, (pencil eraser if you speak American) does the job quite well.

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glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hey

Anyone having troubles with errors like

/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_peekc_locked'
/usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'


when compiling programs?

Remco.

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Re: Big problem with TeX/LaTeX

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Martin
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What about TEX specific environment variables as sugested in the
output? Unset all of them for installation.

Christoph

 
 I was wondering if anyone has run into this lately and if it is something
 I am doing wrong...
 
 I have used the 'new' tetex packages of Debian for some time now.  I was
 recently 'forced' to remove X and tex from my machine temporarily.  Now I
 have X back and running, but am having problems getting the tetex packages
 to install and work.  (I have seen at least one other posting describing
 one of the symptoms I am having.)
 
 I start with a 'tex-clean' system. Then I do a dpkg -i tetex-base_0.4pl6-5.deb
 This seems to work fine. Then I do dpkg -i tetex-bin_0.4pl6-8.deb and things
 start going wrong.  When it tries to configure the package, it produces errors
 like:
 
 Please set the environment variable TETEXDIR or TEXMFCNF correctly.
 For details see the teTeX and the Kpathsea manual
 kpsetool: language.dat not found.
 kpsetool: modes.mf not found.
 kpsetool: texmf.cnf not found.
 /usr/bin/texconfig: cd: /web2c: No such file or directory
 Error opening terminal: generic.
 /usr/bin/texconfig: /tmp/texconf4119/logfile: No such file or directory
 Output of initex is in /tmp/texconfig.out
 
 If you want to change the default settings,
 use /usr/bin/texconfig to configure teTeX.
 
 Running /usr/bin/texconfig produces similar errors.  Now, when I go to
 latex something, I get
 
 This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1)
 I can't find the default format file!   
 
 Which is the symptom reported recently in this mail list.
 
 What should I do to get a working latex installation?
 
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Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread Emilio Lopes
 JT == James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think he should at least watch this list.

JT I think it's unfair for you to demand (by implication) that every
JT developer read debian.user, it's not low-volume and people only
JT have a limited amount of time.

Normally yes. But if you know there is a known bug in your package,
and by one reason or another you can't/don't want to fix it, it would
be nice to have a look sometimes at the list.

I'm just a bit upset. It took me some time to find it, and it was a
known bug...

JT As I understand it, this is a problem which occurs when upgrading
JT to unstable/, if one is tracking stable/ it won't matter (no new
JT versions of gcc/cpp - no chance for them to get out of sync).
JT And since the fix is now (or will be) in unstable, I think your
JT point is moot.

In my case, I installed some packages from unstable (gcc and cpp among
them). After that, I noted that g77 didn't work with the new gcc (and
there was no newer g77). I had to downgrade. All this happened in the
same day I installed Debian, so I had no chance to note that I've
broken the system with this incursion in unstable.

It's over now. :-)


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Re: fiddled with gcc/libc, now can't find stddef.h

1997-06-23 Thread Emilio Lopes
 TB == Tim Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The problem is that you have a version of cpp that's incompatible
 with gcc. They have to have the *same* version number.

TB I don't think that's the problem. (I've been trying gcc/cpp
TB 2.7.2.1-8 and gcc/cpp 2.7.2.2-5.)

Exactly: cpp 2.7.2.*2* looks for the headers in
   
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.2/include
  ~

But gcc 2.7.2.*1* puts the headers in

/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include
  ~

You can see by yourself compiling a problematic file with gcc -v.


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Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root

1997-06-23 Thread Rick Hawkins

 It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should
 run as root as little as possible...  Besides, it is common sense.
 When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very
 clearly.  The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some
 various HOWTOs.

gee, in my case it was fear :)  It took so long to do the initial
installation on the first machine (the pre 1.1 kernel would hang on
alternate boots on my hardware, among other things), i wasn't going to
reisk *anything* . . .

rick


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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Rick Hawkins

 Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
 distribute spam?
 
 From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
 compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
 address all over the world.

let me preface this with:  While I am a lawyer, this is not legal
advice, and any such advice needed should come from an attorney licensed
in your state.  That said . . 

If I understand this correctly (and i haven't a clue how smail works),
this person is sending messages that use your machine to go further?
If this is anything more than routine message relay to the next machine,
I'd love to see you contact your local United States attorney to have
the spammer prosecuted for theft of computer services.  While it's not
my area of law, if memory serves, if he did any hacking to get this
access from your machine, it would be illegal.  Also, if it's any type
of make money fast, etc., mail  wire fraud prosecution is possible.  

A single prosecution begnning would probably have a significant effect
on the number of these yahoos.

Seriously, if possible,  have the spammer prosecuted.  You'll be doing a
favor to uncounted millions.  Come to mention it, if I wasn't in school
right now (specializing), i'd offer to help out pro bono.

Another possibility is civil suit for theft of services.  Even if
compuserve won't pop up name  address, the suit could be filed against
John Doe, then issue a subpena to compuserve for the information . . . 

rick


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xdm

1997-06-23 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Hi all !

Sorry to bother with this silly question again, but I
tried to fix my xdm (I mean, make it work :) ) and nothing happened...

Here is my /etc/X11/config file:

***

run-xconsole
obey-nologin
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
xdm-start-server
start-xdm

**

I tried to get information on the manual pages with no
success...

Any help ?

Thanks.

Daniel.



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Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root

1997-06-23 Thread Debian user mail

It's also important not to use Netscape as root (or other mail tools as
root) when sending mail to the Debian mailing lists.  I get lots of posts
that don't go through, because the sender is root or another system user
that Smartlist recognizes.


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On 20 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:

 It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should
 run as root as little as possible...  Besides, it is common sense.
 When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very
 clearly.  The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some
 various HOWTOs.



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Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Will Lowe

 * D, like the d in day
 * e, like the e in pet
 * b, much softer than the b in bass
 * i, like see
 * a, like a in father (american english)
 * n, like in now

for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
than yours,  and ian goes
: e as in see
: an as in Annie

So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

Will

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Re: Big Bad Bug - adduser truncating files from /etc/skel.

1997-06-23 Thread Debian user mail

I reported this a few weeks ago.  Adduser v3.3 should fix this, and should
be forthcoming from Guy Maor.

Pete

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On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 I finally had the need to add some users to my brand new 1.3.0 server.
 
 Using adduser everything copied from /etc/skel to /home/[user] gets 
 hacked down to one line. 
 
 Don't seem like a 'feature' to me


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Re: /etc/securetty problem

1997-06-23 Thread Debian user mail

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 It doesn't work
 I'm still on the damned list.

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Books on Debian

1997-06-23 Thread H.C.Lai
I wonder if the Debian team has any plan of publishing a book
on how to install/use/administer a Debian system ?? I suspect
people who are new to Linux and haven't decided which distribution to
install may find the idea of a reference book very reassuring. Who
knows, this may turn out to be the factor that tips the balance in
favour of a Debian system over others.

I know some people would say one doesn't need a book cause there
are all those guides that come with the distribution. But for people
who are new to Linux or who are reponsible for setting up and
maintaining a network of Linux boxes, a complete reference book is
a very attractive thing to have.

I am about to install Linux on a Pentimum II box with 512MB of
memory for some people. One of the thing they demand is the supply
of a few reference books on the Linux distribution that I have
installed so that they can learn to use and run the system themselves.
Now, because there is not (correct me if I'm wrong) a book on Debain
but there are books on Slackware, I think I would have no choice but to
install Slackware instead of the Debian. Another setback !!

Something for the team to think about.


Cheers,

H.C.


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Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root

1997-06-23 Thread Brian White
  It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should
  run as root as little as possible...  Besides, it is common sense.
  When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very
  clearly.  The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some
  various HOWTOs.
 
 gee, in my case it was fear :)  It took so long to do the initial
 installation on the first machine (the pre 1.1 kernel would hang on
 alternate boots on my hardware, among other things), i wasn't going to
 reisk *anything* . . .

I'll put something in the wrapper script that won't let netscape run
as root.

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fdos als. #

1997-06-23 Thread Samuel J. MacDowell
Ave 

I will like to set up a dos emulation.
Besides dosemu and dosfstools I'll need
fdos.  Right ?
Well were to find de fdos ?
I look at unstable directory but there
is none.

Thank you 
Samuel


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XFree 3 - what files needed ?

1997-06-23 Thread Samuel J. MacDowell
Ave 

I'll like to upgrade to new release of XFree.

What packages do I'll need ?

Thank you
Samuel


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Re: xdm

1997-06-23 Thread Paul McDermott
Hi, what exactly is the problem with xdm?  To get more information about 
the config file there should be a file in /usr/doc/X11/debian.README  It 
tells you all of the switches and flags for the variables in the config 
file.  Me and other people on the list can't help you if you are not more 
specific in your questions for help.  I would be more then happy to help 
(if I can) you, but I need more information, ie error messages what you 
are seeing or not seeing on the screen.  Hope to hear from you soon.
Paul
ps try man xdm to get more information on x related configuration settings.



On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Daniel Doro Ferrante wrote:

 
 
   Hi all !
 
   Sorry to bother with this silly question again, but I
 tried to fix my xdm (I mean, make it work :) ) and nothing happened...
 
   Here is my /etc/X11/config file:
 
 ***
 
 run-xconsole
 obey-nologin
 allow-user-resources
 allow-user-modmap
 allow-user-xsession
 allow-failsafe
 xdm-start-server
 start-xdm
 
 **
 
   I tried to get information on the manual pages with no
 success...
 
   Any help ?
 
   Thanks.
 
   Daniel.
 
 
 
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Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:


 * D, like the d in day
 * e, like the e in pet
 * b, much softer than the b in bass
 * i, like see
 * a, like a in father (american english)
 * n, like in now

for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
than yours,  and ian goes
   : e as in see
   : an as in Annie

   So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

I'-en
or
E'-en

?

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Shaya Potter
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
  : e as in see
  : an as in Annie
 
  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

wrong ian.  you want Ian Murdock.

Shaya


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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
Dave Cinege [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how
 does the guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he
 says his name.

That's Ian Murdock, not Ian Jackson.  Please see the FAQ :-

URL:http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-2.html#ss2.5
2.5 How does one pronounce Debian and what does this word mean?

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Re: pppd leaves lock file after quitting

1997-06-23 Thread m*
 
  I used pppd to connect to my university, which has a 2 hour limit on
  connections.
 
  Problem is, when pppd stops, it leaves the lock file in /var/lock. Do I
  have to remove the file itself?
 
  Also is there a better way to stop pppd than just killing it?
 
the 2.2.0f-19 version comes with the script poff, as well as pon.
poff cleanly kills ppp with a SIGTERM.

i have also found that the lock file will be removed, actually by
mgetty in my case, after about 40 seconds.

so upgrade your ppp if necessary and let mgetty do the rest of the
cleanup.

good luck, 

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burning CD, how?

1997-06-23 Thread Lawrence Chim
I just bought my CDR.  I burned several CD in win95 successfully.
Can anyone tell me how to burn a CD in Linux?  In particular, I have
a mirror of Debian in my harddisk and want to make a copy of it to
CD.

Lawrence


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Re: Debian books

1997-06-23 Thread Will Lowe
Well,  it seems to me that once debian is INSTALLED,  you administrate it 
just like any other linux,  unix  or *nix system.  There are a few 
quirks,  but it really isn't possible to say that one *nix is 
_standard_,  so you might say they're _all_ unstandard.

While I can understand that someone might want to have a Debian 
complete Manual,  I'm not sure it's possible.  Feel free to 
contradict me here,  those who are close to the project.  What would you 
put in a book?  Get them something like Running Linux and a copy of the 
network admin's guide ...
As frustrating as it sometimes is,  debian isn't a unified system 
... it's a series of unified systems which all work together via the 
dependancies.  Knowing where to find a particular file or how to 
configure something is much less a matter of knowing which version of 
Debian you have that it is of knowing,  for example,  which version of 
the Xbase package you have.
Maybe it'd be possible to have the package maintainers document 
their packages more thoroughly,  and distribute those.

Will

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libreadline2g, etc. testimonial

1997-06-23 Thread schizo

I just installed all the .debs in master:~troup
and everything seems to work just fine.


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A tool for general configs

1997-06-23 Thread Eddie Katz

I would like to know if there is a tool to configure printers. Something equival
ent to the modconf utility for kernel modules.

Also is there a tool that configures the network, I am moving soon at work to an
other office and will certainly be assigned new IP address etc

To close this chapter, is there a program that configures the system in general 
such as the one that exists on the Debian Installation diskettes ?

Thanks


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Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Brian K Servis

How about having Ian or Bruce put a sound byte of them saying Debian
on the webJust like Linus did for Linux!

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Re: Ian Jack....uhm Murdock, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:47:21 -0400 (EDT), Shaya Potter wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
 : e as in see
 : an as in Annie
 
 So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

wrong ian.  you want Ian Murdock.

Damn! sorry.I see both their names on some much Debian stuff I keep 
confusing them

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Re: Cron root@yogi atrun -d -l 0.5 (fwd) What does this error mean ?

1997-06-23 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Stan Brown wrote:

   I sudenly started getting this message from my Debian box. I have not
   chnaged anythig on the Debian box. I did reboot anothermachine on the
   network yesterday. Does anyone have any ideas what this might mean ?
 
   Thanks.
 
 Forwarded message:
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 23 05:34:13 EDT 1997
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 05:34:10 -0400 (EDT)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] atrun -d -l 0.5
 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
 X-Cron-Env: 
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root
 X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root
 
 yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out

The atrun call in your crontab (which is set to run every minute by
default), had a problem talking to your NIS/YP server.  Transient failure.
The version of at in Debian 1.3 uses a seperate daemon rather than
depending on cron now.

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Re: Debian books

1997-06-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:15:41 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:

Well,  it seems to me that once debian is INSTALLED,  you administrate it 
just like any other linux,  unix  or *nix system.  There are a few 
quirks,  but it really isn't possible to say that one *nix is 
_standard_,  so you might say they're _all_ unstandard.

This IS NOT acurate. Off the top of my head:

everything init.d
rc0.d -rc6.d
ppp
adduser, start-stop-daemon.,  as well as other scripts things
fs layout

All very Debian-centric. 

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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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 Anyone having troubles with errors like
 
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 /usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'

Do you have libg++272(-dev) installed?  When compiling for glibc, all the
other librarys you link must also be compiled for it.

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Re: libreadline2g, etc. testimonial

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
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 I just installed all the .debs in master:~troup and everything seems
 to work just fine.

Thanks a lot for checking, but actually, I believe I may have just
found the problem.  The debs in ~troup/ can hose your system under
certain circumstances.  I've removed them in case anyone else tries to
install them.

I want to talk to the ldso maintainer some, but if I'm right, I'll
have some fixed bash 2.01-0.1 debs out RSN.

[ Cross posted to debian-devel; please keep any replies there, I don't
  know why this went to debian-user ]

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playing wav files under netscape

1997-06-23 Thread Paul McDermott
Hi everybody, I am having a problem playing wav files in netscape.  I 
edited the general preferences helpers audio/wav helper.  I am using 
bplay_.096-1 i think.  I get the following netscape error:
Netscape:subprocess diagnostics (stdout/stderr)
bplay: input file less then 20 bytes long
I don't know what this error means or how to fix it.  Any suggestion 
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Paul



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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Bruce Perens
Of course it's Ian Murdock, not Ian Jackson. 

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Re: Debian books

1997-06-23 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 Well,  it seems to me that once debian is INSTALLED,  you administrate it 
 just like any other linux,  unix  or *nix system.  There are a few 
 
 This IS NOT acurate. Off the top of my head:
 
 everything init.d
 rc0.d -rc6.d

Ok.  I see your point.  I've read a lot of unix books that start with 
lines like figure out where your system keeps its startup files,  and I 
had to hack around a little to figure out exactly where that stuff was.  
It _is_ pretty confusing.  Even the HOWTO's in those cases are very 
general.
Disregard my earlier silliness,  I mistook your question for one 
of an entirely different color.
Will

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread branden
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:

  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

As others have pointed out, you're thinking of Ian Murdock, not Ian
Jackson, though they both have played crucian roles in the creation of our
distribution.

Last November/December, I had the pleasure of conversing with Ian Murdock
over lunch here at Purdue.  He indulged my silly curiosity (and likely my
mild but poorly-veiled air of hero-worship) for about an hour and a half
while I picked his brain about things Debian, Linux, and GNU-ish.

At any rate, I believe I can say with some certainty that he pronounces his
name E'-en, with a long E sound and the generic unstressed schwa-vowel
type sound.

Will's description of the pronunciation of Debian is pretty close to Ian's,
except I'm not sure I'd set off the i.  It's about as bi-syllabic as you
can get without introducing some kind of British y kind of thing, e.g.,
Deb-yun.

If I'd had the foresight, a portable tape recorder, and the ability to
convice him that, sure, it's just a joke, I would have recorded him
saying it, just Linus did with Linux.

I didn't get to meet the first half of the name of our distribution, but it
wasn't for trying -- I invited him and his wife over for a big-screen TV
Star Wars marathon that my roomates and I were throwing, but they didn't
make it.  Maybe he was busy with finals and graduation and all that stuff,
or maybe I just came off too psychotic.

You know, people often think I'm crazy but in truth--

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Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

1997-06-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Kirk Hilliard wrote:
 
 How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
 domain?
 
 I am running Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) on my
 Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
 After I set Options/Network Preferences/Proxies to Manual Proxy
 Configuration and filled in the SOCKS Host field it had no problems
 getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
 SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
 because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
 connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the No Proxy for field to
 the local domain name but this had no effect.
 
 Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1), similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
 connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
 No Proxy for field.
 

If the net you want to be local is, say, 192.168.2.0, (class-C) then
in the No Proxy for field put '192.168.2.'. Get the idea?

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Re: Connecting to Windows NT

1997-06-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 First thing I apologize right away if I am posting this in the wrong
 areas.
 
 Reading the latest version of the PPP How To, I discovered that PPP
 has something called MS CHAP.  Apparentely if you have a WinNT
 server, this is what is required to connect Linux to it.
 
 Has anyone tried this?  As far as I know the server is asking for
 CHAP since it wants my username and password, and once I connect,
 the very first time, when I connected under Win95, it asked the
 network name.  After entering that, everything worked fine.
 
 I am relatively new to Linux, just converted from Win, although I am
 too used at have everything working (and crashing) right away.
 
 Any hints or suggestions would be great from someone who has tried
 anything like it before.

I've never dialed-in to an NT machine. However, just because Win95
prompts for user/password doesn't mean CHAP is used. Win95 tries to
be real clever with authentication, responding to plain old login:/
password: auth, PAP, and CHAP as it detects them. If you really want
to see what's going on, use HyperTerminal and manually dial in. Does
it prompt you with user:, login: or some such thing? If this is
a case you'll need to set up your chat dial script to respond to
these prompts with your user id and password. If once the modem connects
you see garbage spewing out, then PPP is starting automatically and
auth must by default be either PAP or CHAP. In this case get pppd set
up with debugging on ('debug' on the command line or in the options
file) and look at /var/log/ppp.log. Without understanding all the
info that's there, you should still see PAP or CHAP somewhere in
the output and you'll know what you need. Then you'll need to edit 
either /etc/ppp/pap-secrets or /etc/ppp/chap-secrets, respectively,
and create an entry with your login/password. There should be examples
in these files to go by.

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Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Will Lowe wrote:
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder
 than yours,  and ian goes
 : e as in see
 : an as in Annie
 
 So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

Perhaps Ian (or Deb!) would digitize himself saying Debian and we 
could put the .wav or .au on the Debian web site?

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Re: job delay problem

1997-06-23 Thread W. Paul Mills

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The mous problem sounds like you have specified the wrong protocol in
XF86Config.
-
 Hello all,
 
 I have a strange problem. After installing a new Debian system on my
 friend's system, there is something unusal happenes to his computer. When
 he types emacs in xterm or one of the six virtual consoles, it just stops
 and nothing happenes. He cannot kill this job by typing Ctrl-C. But when 
 he types xedit or something like that, the job is executed immedately. It
 seems that something is putting emacs to become a delayed job. It also
 true that his mouse does not move very smoothly in xwindow session. The
 mouse pointer jumps from one position to another position. 
 He does not have at in his system. Can someone point out some possible
 causes for such strange behaviour.
 
 Many thanks in advance!!
 
 Anthony

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INN news server timeout

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hey

Anyone know how to alter the 'timeout time' of the INN newsserver, ie. the
time the server breaks the connection with a client, if a client is idle ?

thanks

Remco.

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Re: Connecting to Windows NT

1997-06-23 Thread Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro
I've never dialed-in to an NT machine. However, just because Win95
prompts for user/password doesn't mean CHAP is used. Win95 tries to
be real clever with authentication, responding to plain old login:/
password: auth, PAP, and CHAP as it detects them. If you really want
to see what's going on, use HyperTerminal and manually dial in. Does
it prompt you with user:, login: or some such thing? If this is
a case you'll need to set up your chat dial script to respond to
these prompts with your user id and password. If once the modem connects
you see garbage spewing out, then PPP is starting automatically and
auth must by default be either PAP or CHAP. In this case get pppd set
up with debugging on ('debug' on the command line or in the options
file) and look at /var/log/ppp.log. Without understanding all the
info that's there, you should still see PAP or CHAP somewhere in
the output and you'll know what you need. Then you'll need to edit 
either /etc/ppp/pap-secrets or /etc/ppp/chap-secrets, respectively,
and create an entry with your login/password. There should be examples
in these files to go by.

Thank you for your message =)

I tried to connect using MINICOM to capture to log what WinNT is telling
Win95 during the login process.  Unfortunately nothing appears.  I pressed
Enter a couple of times to see if any character would appear, but so far, no
luck.

Any suggestion?

Leandro+
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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

 :  Anyone having troubles with errors like
 :  
 :  /usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_peekc_locked'
 :  /usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'
 : 
 : Do you have libg++272(-dev) installed?  When compiling for glibc, all the
 : other librarys you link must also be compiled for it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg --status libg++272
Package: libg++272
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 546
Maintainer: joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.7.2.5-1
Depends: libc6
Description: The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
 This package contains the additional runtime libraries for g++.


I'm working with the libraries and include-files supplied with the current
unstable Debian distribution..  they should work, shouldn't they?

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
  : e as in see
  : an as in Annie
 
  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

Exactly. Ian is typically pronounced ee-an.

 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

You are asking the wrong Ian. The creator of Debian is Ian Murdoch.

Luck,

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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread joost witteveen
 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
 
  :  Anyone having troubles with errors like
  :  
  :  /usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_peekc_locked'
  :  /usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'
  : 
  : Do you have libg++272(-dev) installed?  When compiling for glibc, all the
  : other librarys you link must also be compiled for it.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg --status libg++272
 Package: libg++272
 Status: install ok installed
 Priority: standard
 Section: devel
 Installed-Size: 546
 Maintainer: joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Version: 2.7.2.5-1
 Depends: libc6
 Description: The GNU C++ libraries (ELF version).
  This package contains the additional runtime libraries for g++.
 
 
 I'm working with the libraries and include-files supplied with the current
 unstable Debian distribution..  they should work, shouldn't they?

Yes they should. But note that you haven't yet told us whether you have
installed libg++272-dev installed (there's also a libg++27-dev in
unstable, that one should not be on your system). If you've got
libg++272-dev installed, and still get the above errors, give
me your source, and I'll try and see what is wrong with it.

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Re: guid and uid of users..

1997-06-23 Thread Pete Harlan
 i'm planning to convert a couple of users to a specific uid and guid. I
 have specified it in my passwd file. Since i have to chown the the users
 subdirectory by hand... could anybody suggest an awk or perl script(have
 yet to learn it...) to do it en masse?

I wrote a perl script that converts a directory tree from one pair of
passwd/group files to another.  If anyone's interested in it, let me
know.  (I sent it to this person already.)

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Re: Books on Debian

1997-06-23 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:

 I know some people would say one doesn't need a book cause there
 are all those guides that come with the distribution. But for people
 who are new to Linux or who are reponsible for setting up and
 maintaining a network of Linux boxes, a complete reference book is
 a very attractive thing to have.

Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of
Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's
published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all
the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said before, one really
needs to be able to track down and consult documentation in the order

  Debian-specific
  Linux-specific
  Unix-specific

 I am about to install Linux on a Pentimum II box with 512MB of
 memory for some people. One of the thing they demand is the supply
 of a few reference books on the Linux distribution that I have
 installed so that they can learn to use and run the system themselves.

If you want a /few/ books, you're going to have to widen your selection to
Linux (generic) and probably even to Unix. Mind you, you could do this all
from one publisher's list - O'Reilly (www.ora.com).
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putting lilo on the mbr, help please

1997-06-23 Thread Ed Urenda
Hello, any help with the folowing would be greatly appreciated:

I have an ide with debian 1.3 and win 95 on it and decided that the 
rewrite_table option in lilo would be the easiest way to dual-boot the 
system.

The recompilation of lilo with the rewrite_table option was successful, 
but when I add a section for win95 in lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo it 
complains that lilo must reside on the mbr (i assume that win95 has 
taken 
the mbr).  How can I put lilo back on the mbr?

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Unidentified subject!

1997-06-23 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Sorry...

The point is that xdm is not loading when I startup my
system. No error messages, nothing... That's all I could figure out myself
(I tried dmesg and other kind of bug-traking but no success...)

Thanks
Daniel.


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Re: Debian books

1997-06-23 Thread Stephen Zander
Dave Cinege wrote:
 This IS NOT acurate. Off the top of my head:
 
 everything init.d
 rc0.d -rc6.d
 ppp
 adduser, start-stop-daemon.,  as well as other scripts things
 fs layout

What makes you think all that list is debian centric (no, that's
not a flame-bait :))?

The fs stuff is, some of the daemon is, but adduser  the rc?.d/init.d
is all very SVR4.  My biggest problem with running debian is requiring
my brain to recall both BSD  SVR4 info (some things go one way,
some things another).

Of course all that doesn't mean a debian specific book isn't an excellent
thing.


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how to have sound in netscapes'java ? #

1997-06-23 Thread Samuel J. MacDowell
Ave

I'm running netscape3.01 on debian 1.0.15.
I'd read, can't remember where, that we can
set up netscape under linux to drive sound.

Any help ?

BTW . I can't ear any sound with the
appletviewer either.

Thank you
Samuel


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Re: Big problem with TeX/LaTeX

1997-06-23 Thread Paul Rightley
teTeX does seem to install now (and I do not have the TeX environment
variables set...  To me, this is not right.  This means that I cannot
use dselect to remove the teTeX packages and then reinstall them without
executing commands not related to dselect.  Is this a fault with one of
the install scripts?  It has apparently bitten several people other
then myself.

Thanks for such a great distribution,

Paul

On 23-Jun-97 Christoph Martin wrote:
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What about TEX specific environment variables as sugested in the
output? Unset all of them for installation.

Christoph

 
 I was wondering if anyone has run into this lately and if it is something
 I am doing wrong...
 
 I have used the 'new' tetex packages of Debian for some time now.  I was
 recently 'forced' to remove X and tex from my machine temporarily.  Now I
 have X back and running, but am having problems getting the tetex packages
 to install and work.  (I have seen at least one other posting describing
 one of the symptoms I am having.)
 
 I start with a 'tex-clean' system. Then I do a dpkg -i
tetex-base_0.4pl6-5.deb
 This seems to work fine. Then I do dpkg -i tetex-bin_0.4pl6-8.deb and things
 start going wrong.  When it tries to configure the package, it produces
errors
 like:
 
 Please set the environment variable TETEXDIR or TEXMFCNF correctly.
 For details see the teTeX and the Kpathsea manual
 kpsetool: language.dat not found.
 kpsetool: modes.mf not found.
 kpsetool: texmf.cnf not found.
 /usr/bin/texconfig: cd: /web2c: No such file or directory
 Error opening terminal: generic.
 /usr/bin/texconfig: /tmp/texconf4119/logfile: No such file or directory
 Output of initex is in /tmp/texconfig.out
 
 If you want to change the default settings,
 use /usr/bin/texconfig to configure teTeX.
 
 Running /usr/bin/texconfig produces similar errors.  Now, when I go to
 latex something, I get
 
 This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (C version 6.1)
 I can't find the default format file!   
 
 Which is the symptom reported recently in this mail list.
 
 What should I do to get a working latex installation?
 
 Paul


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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-06-23 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Daniel == Daniel Doro Ferrante [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Daniel Sorry...

Daniel The point is that xdm is not loading when I
Daniel startup my system. No error messages, nothing... That's
Daniel all I could figure out myself (I tried dmesg and other
Daniel kind of bug-traking but no success...)

Check /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.

It should have a line:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X


I've seen this bug a zillion times.

I thought that /usr/X11/bin/X was always a wrapper program pointing to
the correct server, so why do the X packages futz around with this?
Why not just put this line in always?

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Changing the host name

1997-06-23 Thread Alberto Ruiz
I'm trying to figure out how to change the hostname manually.  I did the
command hostname new name ,  and I went into /etc/hosts and replace the
old hostname with the new one.  Is it anything other command or file that
I need to edit to conpletelly change the hostname??   I also noticed that
the login prompt and shell prompt still display the old name.  

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Re: Connecting to Windows NT

1997-06-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro wrote:
 
 I've never dialed-in to an NT machine. However, just because Win95
 prompts for user/password doesn't mean CHAP is used. Win95 tries to
 be real clever with authentication, responding to plain old login:/
 password: auth, PAP, and CHAP as it detects them. If you really want
 to see what's going on, use HyperTerminal and manually dial in. Does
 it prompt you with user:, login: or some such thing? If this is
 a case you'll need to set up your chat dial script to respond to
 these prompts with your user id and password. If once the modem connects
 you see garbage spewing out, then PPP is starting automatically and
 auth must by default be either PAP or CHAP. In this case get pppd set
 up with debugging on ('debug' on the command line or in the options
 file) and look at /var/log/ppp.log. Without understanding all the
 info that's there, you should still see PAP or CHAP somewhere in
 the output and you'll know what you need. Then you'll need to edit
 either /etc/ppp/pap-secrets or /etc/ppp/chap-secrets, respectively,
 and create an entry with your login/password. There should be examples
 in these files to go by.
 
 Thank you for your message =)
 
 I tried to connect using MINICOM to capture to log what WinNT is telling
 Win95 during the login process.  Unfortunately nothing appears.  I pressed
 Enter a couple of times to see if any character would appear, but so far, no
 luck.
 
 Any suggestion?

This probably means that NT is waiting to receive a real PPP packet,
and is ignoring your carriage returns you're typing. This would also
imply that it wants to authenticate using PAP/CHAP. You should get
a chat script working for pppd to connect up. I guess a lot of people
use pon/poff but I've never tried these since it's easy enough to
write a simple script. Here's an example: (please excuse the 
unintended line-breaks my email client is sure to insert in the 
'connect' stuff)

#!/bin/bash
/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 38400 crtscts debug lock modem defaultroute \
  connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -t 120 ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ
OK ATE0V1 OK ATDT5551212 CONNECT ''

Note that this script will not try to do authentication, but having
debug as an option will log packets to /var/log/ppp.log, and you
should be able to see what it is that NT wants.

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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

 :  On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
 :  
 :   :  Anyone having troubles with errors like
 :   :  
 :   :  /usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_peekc_locked'
 :   :  /usr/lib/libg++.so: undefined reference to `_IO_putc'
 :   : 
 :   : Do you have libg++272(-dev) installed?  When compiling for glibc, all 
the
 :   : other librarys you link must also be compiled for it.
 :  
 :  I'm working with the libraries and include-files supplied with the current
 :  unstable Debian distribution..  they should work, shouldn't they?
 : 
 : Yes they should. But note that you haven't yet told us whether you have
 : installed libg++272-dev installed (there's also a libg++27-dev in
 : unstable, that one should not be on your system). If you've got
 : libg++272-dev installed, and still get the above errors, give
 : me your source, and I'll try and see what is wrong with it.

I just forced libc6-dev and libg++272-dev to get installed.

Everything's working fine.. but now it seems the libpthread-dev isn't
working together with libc-6.

And because the software I tried to compile (the Mnemonic browser,
developer's edition) is thread-safe.. it doesn't work..  get it? :)

Remco.


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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread joost witteveen
 I just forced libc6-dev and libg++272-dev to get installed.
 
 Everything's working fine.. but now it seems the libpthread-dev isn't
 working together with libc-6.

Maybe LinuxThreads help you? (Warning: I don't know anything about threads)

$ ls -al /usr/doc/libc6-dev/*threads*
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1470 Apr 11 12:39 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/ChangeLog.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1178 Apr  7 17:31 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/Changes.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 2704 Mar  5 01:34 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.Xfree3.2.linuxthreads.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 3294 Apr  7 17:52 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.linuxthreads.gz

For the rest: I'm glad it's got nothing[1] to do with libg++272, and
I feel good that I at least helped you one step further.

[1] it does have something to do: new debian policy says that libfoog should
conflict with libfoo-dev, and my libg++272 clearly doesn't conflict with
libg++27-dev. So, should fix that.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-06-23 Thread Emilio Lopes
 BG == Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


BG Check /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.

BG It should have a line:

BG :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X


BG I've seen this bug a zillion times.

BG I thought that /usr/X11/bin/X was always a wrapper program
BG pointing to the correct server, so why do the X packages futz
BG around with this?  Why not just put this line in always?

Not everybody want a X server running on the display by default. For
example, I may want my Debian box to serve X to *other* machines. Or
if I setup the Debian box as an Xterm, I may want to have xdm starting
an Xserver via the chooser.


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Re: Changing the host name

1997-06-23 Thread Rick Hawkins

 I'm trying to figure out how to change the hostname manually.  I did the
 command hostname new name ,  and I went into /etc/hosts and replace the
 old hostname with the new one.  Is it anything other command or file that
 I need to edit to conpletelly change the hostname??   I also noticed that
 the login prompt and shell prompt still display the old name.  

/etc/hostname, too . . . and then i think (not sure) you neet a reboot
or midnight to pass.

rick


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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

 :  I just forced libc6-dev and libg++272-dev to get installed.
 :  
 :  Everything's working fine.. but now it seems the libpthread-dev isn't
 :  working together with libc-6.
 : 
 : Maybe LinuxThreads help you? (Warning: I don't know anything about threads)
 : 
 : $ ls -al /usr/doc/libc6-dev/*threads*
 : -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1470 Apr 11 12:39 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/ChangeLog.linuxthreads.gz
 : -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1178 Apr  7 17:31 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/Changes.linuxthreads.gz
 : -rw-r--r--   1 root root 2704 Mar  5 01:34 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.Xfree3.2.linuxthreads.gz
 : -rw-r--r--   1 root root 3294 Apr  7 17:52 
/usr/doc/libc6-dev/README.linuxthreads.gz
 : 
 : For the rest: I'm glad it's got nothing[1] to do with libg++272, and
 : I feel good that I at least helped you one step further.
 : 
 : [1] it does have something to do: new debian policy says that libfoog should
 : conflict with libfoo-dev, and my libg++272 clearly doesn't conflict with
 : libg++27-dev. So, should fix that.
 : 

Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I removed
it when installing pthreads.
And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile..

Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore...

Let's play again :)

Remco.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1997-06-23 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Emilio == Emilio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BG I thought that /usr/X11/bin/X was always a wrapper program
BG pointing to the correct server, so why do the X packages futz
BG around with this?  Why not just put this line in always?

Emilio Not everybody want a X server running on the display by
Emilio default. For example, I may want my Debian box to serve X
Emilio to *other* machines. Or if I setup the Debian box as an
Emilio Xterm, I may want to have xdm starting an Xserver via the
Emilio chooser.

Erm.. I hate to say it, but the people who are smart enough to do that
are smart enough to comment out the line.

Trust me -- I help staff the #Debian channels on EFNet and
irc.linpeople.org, and this is in the top 5 questions we get.

Maybe if it didn't BREAK so often..

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TaskBar

1997-06-23 Thread Obi
I'm using fvwm95 and debian 1.3, and I cannot find the man page for the module 
TaskBar. What am I missing? Also in /usr/doc there is no reference to TaskBar 
...

graziano


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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:

 Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I removed
 it when installing pthreads.
 And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile..
 
 Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore...

LinuxThreads is integrated and included with libc6, there isn't a seperate
package to install.  If you've forced another thread lib dev package into
installing, that would definatly cause you problems.  You may want to
reinstall all of the affected lib and dev packages.

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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

 : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 : 
 : On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:
 : 
 :  Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I removed
 :  it when installing pthreads.
 :  And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile..
 :  
 :  Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore...
 : 
 : LinuxThreads is integrated and included with libc6, there isn't a seperate
 : package to install.  If you've forced another thread lib dev package into
 : installing, that would definatly cause you problems.  You may want to
 : reinstall all of the affected lib and dev packages.

Hmm okay, but if I try to remove some packages (libc5-dev needs to be
removed before libc6-dev can be installed), it complains about for example
ncurses. Will ncurses still work when I replace libc5-dev by libc6-dev ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg -r libc5-dev
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libc5-dev:
 libgdbm1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
 ncurses3.0-pic depends on libc5-dev.
 libg++27-dev depends on libc5-dev.
 ncurses3.0-dev depends on libc5-dev.
 libgd1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
 libdb1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
 tcl76-dev depends on libc5-dev (= 5.4.0-0).
dpkg: error processing libc5-dev (--remove):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libc5-dev


Is it too dangerous to use dpkg --force- ?

Remco.

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XDM chooser (was: Unidentified subject! )

1997-06-23 Thread Philippe Troin

On 23 Jun 1997 21:35:18 +0200 Emilio Lopes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
nchen.DE) wrote:

 Not everybody want a X server running on the display by default. For 
 example, I may want my Debian box to serve X to *other* machines. Or 
 if I setup the Debian box as an Xterm, I may want to have xdm 
 starting an Xserver via the chooser. 

How would you do that ?
Last time I tried, I couldn't get the chooser.
Let's say I have machine A where I want to sit, and machine B which I 
want to use remotely from A.
What are the xdm configuration files for A and B to do this ?

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Re: glibc

1997-06-23 Thread joost witteveen
 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
 
  : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  : 
  : On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:
  : 
  :  Hmm I should have know. I installed LinuxThreads a while ago, but I 
 removed
  :  it when installing pthreads.
  :  And of course, right now, LinuxThreads refuses to compile..
  :  
  :  Seems the include files in /usr/include ain't correct anymore...
  : 
  : LinuxThreads is integrated and included with libc6, there isn't a seperate
  : package to install.  If you've forced another thread lib dev package into
  : installing, that would definatly cause you problems.  You may want to
  : reinstall all of the affected lib and dev packages.
 
 Hmm okay, but if I try to remove some packages (libc5-dev needs to be
 removed before libc6-dev can be installed), it complains about for example
 ncurses. Will ncurses still work when I replace libc5-dev by libc6-dev ?

No, you need a new ncurses, available in masters' incomming.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ dpkg -r libc5-dev
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libc5-dev:
  libgdbm1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
  ncurses3.0-pic depends on libc5-dev.
  libg++27-dev depends on libc5-dev.
  ncurses3.0-dev depends on libc5-dev.
  libgd1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
  libdb1-dev depends on libc5-dev.
  tcl76-dev depends on libc5-dev (= 5.4.0-0).
 dpkg: error processing libc5-dev (--remove):
  dependency problems - not removing
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  libc5-dev
 
 
 Is it too dangerous to use dpkg --force- ?

Better to remove all those libs (especially the libg++27-dev one:
why didn't you do so before installing libg++272-dev?), and try
and get libc6 ones. Not all are available, so you will not be able
to compile everything any more. Just bug the maintainers of packags
that don't have libc6 libraries yet.

Note, however, that due to Guy's vacation, new libc6 compiled
library pacakges (with new names) will not be installed in
unstable, and can thus only be found in master's incoming.
So, if yoy want to be a Real Man/Woman, don't track unstable,
that's for whimps: track master'sincomming (only available
for maintainers).

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SVGA server for X86 3.3 (when?)

1997-06-23 Thread Stephen Zander

Anyone know when an SVGA server for XFree 3.3 will
be released?  I hoping it will provide better support
for Trident's laptop chipsets.


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SVGA server for X86 3.3 (when?)

1997-06-23 Thread Stephen Zander

Anyone know when an SVGA server for XFree 3.3 will
be released?  I hoping it will provide better support
for Trident's laptop chipsets.


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Re: /etc/resolv.conf has wrong permissions

1997-06-23 Thread Joost Kooij


On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:

  However, /etc/resolv.conf is installed with or modified to root/root 
  -rw--- permissions.  This
  sounds logical until a normal user tries to dial out.  It was weird, my 
  normal account would dial and 
  login ok, but all of the net calls would show a Host name lookup failure. 
   I could even su to root
  and things would work fine.
 
 Interesting.  On my 1.1 upgraded to 1.2 and then to 1.3 system the file is
 
 -rw-r--r--and owned by root.root

Mine (installed 1.3) also has these permissions and ownership.  Strangely,
`dpkg -S /etc/resolv.conf` shows no owning package.


Joost



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Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

1997-06-23 Thread Kirk Hilliard
 Subject: Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers
 Kirk Hilliard wrote:

 How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
 domain?

 I am running Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) on my
 Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
 After I set Options/Network Preferences/Proxies to Manual Proxy
 Configuration and filled in the SOCKS Host field it had no problems
 getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
 SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
 because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
 connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the No Proxy for field to
 the local domain name but this had no effect.

 Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1), similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
 connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
 No Proxy for field.

Jens B. Jorgensen replied:
 If the net you want to be local is, say, 192.168.2.0, (class-C) then
 in the No Proxy for field put '192.168.2.'. Get the idea?

Jens,

Thanks, for the help, but I have tried both this (with and without the
third dot) and putting the full four byte dotted IP address for the
server in the field, and it connects but still goes through the SOCKS
host.  Does this actually work for you?  (One way to find out is to
use a CGI script which prints out $REMOTE_HOST.)  If so, what version
of netscape are you using?

I have also tried the symbolic address both for the local net and for
the server, and all of the above followed by :80 (the port number),
all to no avail.  Any hints?

Kirk


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Re: SVGA server for X86 3.3 (when?)

1997-06-23 Thread joost witteveen
 
 Anyone know when an SVGA server for XFree 3.3 will
 be released?  I hoping it will provide better support
 for Trident's laptop chipsets.

couple of weeks ago, I think.


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Re: Dear Mr. Sean.Seaman

1997-06-23 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Paul Wade wrote:
 The copy of my previous message to you bounced because your From: address
 is invalid.
 
 If you want to send an unsubscribe message you need to have the right
 address set up in your 'Pegasus for Windows' mailer.
 
 I have tried to make a good guess as to what address to send this to as
 you can see from the To: header.
 
 If you can't figure it out maybe we should forward copies of your
 correspondence to someone at rutgers.edu who has a better solution to this
 problem.
 
 Please have a wonderful day.
 
 On Sat, 21 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:00:38 +
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org,
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  I've done that a hundred times you fuck.
  It doesn't work
  I'm still on the damned list.

Why did this guy (Sean) subscribe to this list in the first place!? 
Sad!

Sudhakar
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Re: Netscape uses SOCKS host for local servers

1997-06-23 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Kirk Hilliard wrote:
 
 How do I get Netscape to not use a SOCKS host for machines in my local
 domain?
 
 I am running Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) on my
 Debian 1.2 box, which is on a network behind a (SOCKS 4) firewall.
 After I set Options/Network Preferences/Proxies to Manual Proxy
 Configuration and filled in the SOCKS Host field it had no problems
 getting through to the outside world.  However, it goes through the
 SOCKS host even to contact local http servers.  (This is a problem
 because the SOCKS host is in a different building to which I am
 connected with only 10Kbps pipe.)  I set the No Proxy for field to
 the local domain name but this had no effect.
 
 Mozilla/3.0Gold (WinNT; 1), similarly set up to use the SOCKS host,
 connects to local http servers directly, even without an entry in the
 No Proxy for field.

It looks like the 'No Proxy For' field does not accept widcards.  So
saying No Proxy for *.foo.com would still take you to bar.foo.com
through your configured proxy (in your case, the SOCKS 4 host).

One solution I can think of is using the 'Automatic Proxy Config'
feature.  For more info on this, read -

http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/proxy-live.html

Sudhakar
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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Mark W. Blunier


On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

Why?  My guess is that most people who have run across Debian (or Linux)
pronounce it based upon how they think it should sound after reading the
word, or based upon how a friend pronounced it.
I pronounce Linux as Linn-ux, not Line-ux even though it may have been a
play on the name Linus, who pronounces his name as Leenus.  As for Debian
I say Dee-Bee-Un.


Mark



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