Re: Debian 1.31 (bo) preferred method of login for ppp connection

[Shaleh]

I ppp'ed for a year on bo's ppp.  The ISP I worked for originally did
the same "login: password:" routine, now we use PAP.  It DOES and CAN
work.  Please let's start at the beginning and see if we can fix this. 
For starters, try dpkg --purge'ing ppp and then re-installing it.  This
way you get the original setup files.  Then start over.  I would be glad
to help if you want to contact me on the side.  Also, look through the
FAQ-o-matic at www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom (I think that is the right
URL).  There is an extensive PPP section and if the answer is not there,
let me know and I will add it.


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Debian 1.31 (bo) preferred method of login for ppp connection

[Chip Grandits]

I am unable to get chatscript to log me in for a ppp connection to my ISP.  
Chat doesn't seem to work and doesn't seem to be supported (I like the message 
in the man pages - "If it breaks you get to keep the pieces"). I've given up 
being able to automate the process - I'll settle for logging in manually, what 
utility do can I use to log in manually and obtain a ppp connection.  (I've 
tried DIP but every time I try to choose the ppp protocol (command: mode ppp) 
it just quits back to the shell - no error message.  

My ISP doesn't do anything special: it's simply "login:" followed by 
"Password:", no authentication stuff.  It doesn't seem like I should have to 
upgrade my system just to obtain this connection - I'm sure it's not that 
difficult.  I have tried the instructions in ISP-Hookup-HOWTO, NET-3-HOWTO and 
the Debian User's Guide to no avail. 
Any help or alternative strategies would be greatly appreciated.
Chip Grandits


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Re: emacs *very slow* to launch

[Nick Moffitt]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Eric House wrote:

> I'm running 1.3.1 in terminal mode.  I launch emacs by typing 'emacs'
> at the cmd line, and it takes *at least* five minutes to come up.
> Once up, it works just fine.  And other apps don't seem to have this
> problem: they launch as quickly as ever.

This is the behavior I've come to expect from emacs.  Eighteen
Megs And Constantly Swapping.
It's a huge app!  What sort of hardware do you have?  What version
of Emacs?  I wouldn't run it on anything sub-pentium, myself.


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emacs *very slow* to launch

[Eric House]

I'm running 1.3.1 in terminal mode.  I launch emacs by typing 'emacs'
at the cmd line, and it takes *at least* five minutes to come up.
Once up, it works just fine.  And other apps don't seem to have this
problem: they launch as quickly as ever.

Once emacs is running, if I go to another virtual console and launch
another copy, it takes just as long to come up.

This is a recent phenomenon.  Until a few weeks ago everything was
fine, ie launch took a few seconds the first time and was nearly
instantaneous for additional copies.  I can't think of anything I've
done to change things, but of course I must have done *something*.

I have no idea how to track down what's going on.  'top' doesn't
suggest that emacs is burning many cycles with whatever it's doing.

There's no .emacs file.  Behavior's the same, though, if I use -q or
--no-site-file to prevent reading in the startup files.  I don't think
this is an emacs config problem.

The same thing seems to happen under X

Thanks for any help you can give!

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Re: passwd

[servis]

On 17 Jun, Chris wrote:
> Also, I plan to make this (and a few other projects) a bit nicer and then
> hopefully package them.  Can anyone give me some info on developing my own
> packages for addition to debian?  How do I go about it and what are the
> criteria I need to follow? 
> 

Go to http://www.debian.org/ and go the the 'Developers Corner'. You
will find all you need there.

Brian 



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Re: passwd

[Chris]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Jorge Kinoshita wrote:
> 
> : Hello,
> : I would like to add many users and build a script to it. I have one
> : problem with passwords. I would like that the users could alter their
> : passwords by the web interface, so I have to write a script for it. My
> : problem is: how can I set the password for some user using a simple
> : command? Every program I see requires some kind of interactivity that it
> : is no good for a script.
> : Thank you for any help.
> : Jorge Kinoshita.
> 
> As someone (forgot who!  Sorry :/ ) pointed out to me, the `chpasswd'
> command is useful when used in a script.  It accepts username/password
> pairs on standard input.  The password can be encrypted or unencrypted,
> your choice.  It's part of the base install, and pretty darn useful :)
> 

If you're interested in taking a look, I put together some perl scripts
for the automatic creation of users, with automatic name generation,
passwords, etc, etc.  I did them a while ago, so they're a little bit
kludgy (ie. I didn't use chpasswd because I didn't know about it!), but
they work ok for me.  You can find them at:

http://ocsc.ormond.unimelb.edu.au/~caleishm/stuff/usercreate-1.0.tar.gz

I've mentioned this on the list before, but since I didn't get any
negative responces I figure it's safe to mention it again.  Let me know
what you think.  Oh, make sure you read the README, it's got all the
standard disclamer stuff so that you know how bad my code is ;)

Also, I plan to make this (and a few other projects) a bit nicer and then
hopefully package them.  Can anyone give me some info on developing my own
packages for addition to debian?  How do I go about it and what are the
criteria I need to follow? 

Bye for now

Chris


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emacs and Read Net News problem

[Jan Krupa]

I have installed debian 1.3.1 and I would like to use 
emacs to read news groups but I have problem to configure 
(nntp, gnus, sendmail, ?).

I have put the following in my .emacs file:
setenv NNTPSERVER=news.icm.edu.pl
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.icm.edu.pl"))

and also in file
/etc/nntpserver
news.icm.edu.pl

and in file
/etc/news/server
news.icm.edu.pl

but it does not work (It works under my old Linux distribution Slackware 3.2). 

When I choose from the emacs menu Tools/Read_Net_News

I got the following message:

Gnus: *Group* {nntp:mel222.sggw.waw.pl} 

but it should be (according to my configuration):
Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.icm.edu.pl}
My nntp server is NOT mel222.sggw.waw.pl, is my hostname
but not nntp server.  

Could someone please explain what might be going on ?
How to get nntp server working?

Thanks in advance,

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Netscape script: where is it?

[Brian Morgan]

I've downloaded netscape into the /tmp directory with the proper naming
convention.  When I run dselect to configure it, everything seems to be
ok, but it doesn't do anything in Xwindows when I try to run it.

Here's my question.  Where is the install script that is supposed to
come with netscape?  I downloaded professional version 4.05.  Thanks for
your help.

Brian Morgan


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Re: passwd

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Jorge Kinoshita wrote:

: Hello,
: I would like to add many users and build a script to it. I have one
: problem with passwords. I would like that the users could alter their
: passwords by the web interface, so I have to write a script for it. My
: problem is: how can I set the password for some user using a simple
: command? Every program I see requires some kind of interactivity that it
: is no good for a script.
: Thank you for any help.
: Jorge Kinoshita.

As someone (forgot who!  Sorry :/ ) pointed out to me, the `chpasswd'
command is useful when used in a script.  It accepts username/password
pairs on standard input.  The password can be encrypted or unencrypted,
your choice.  It's part of the base install, and pretty darn useful :)

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passwd

[Jorge Kinoshita]

Hello,
I would like to add many users and build a script to it. I have one
problem with passwords. I would like that the users could alter their
passwords by the web interface, so I have to write a script for it. My
problem is: how can I set the password for some user using a simple
command? Every program I see requires some kind of interactivity that it
is no good for a script.
Thank you for any help.
Jorge Kinoshita.



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Re: smail is not working (MY USERS ARE GOING TO KILL ME)

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "EB" == Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EB> I go on the net (ppp) static IP address, loads of e-mail comes in from my
EB> ISP by SMTP. smail does not deliever it, you have to run, runq, that does
EB> not work most of the time. it has not been delievering outgoing mails they
EB> just sit in the spool directory, why?

There are logfiles in /var/log/smail which should tell you why some action 
couldn't be performed.

EB> I used option 3 in the config scripts smarthost - which i set to my ISPs
EB> post server.

Try Option 1 (Internet site).

BTW: Don't be afraid about the lusers, *you* are the bofh!
 http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/stuff/bofh/ 
 "What does rm -Rf /home do again ... whoops"

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Re: Scalable fonts in Netscape

[Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra]

Yury Onischuck wrote:
> 
> Problem: Netscape does not save font properties for fonts other
> then default two for every encoding.
...
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion, link to look at,
> whatever You can give/tell me

news://netscape.communicator.unix can be accessed on the
secnews.netscape.com server.  Try also to find something at
http://www.netscape.com./library/comm_std.html, I find the "Tech Notes"
there very useful.


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Re: pci problem with dell

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Mark H. Mabry wrote:

: > "Daryl" == Daryl Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > wrote the following on Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:28:16 -0700
: 
:   Daryl> mark, thanks for your reply. i am have a 3com 3c905B-TX card
:   Daryl> as well as a Kingston 10/100 card that is an NB2000
:   Daryl> clone. they both show up in /proc/pci, however i was unable
:   Daryl> to install the drivers for either.  i have just finished
:   Daryl> loading the base system from disk and was planning on using
:   Daryl> ftp to get the rest of the o.s. however now i am in a
:   Daryl> catch-22 situation as i cannot see the network. is there any
:   Daryl> way to try to install
: 
:   Daryl> the drivers without going through the installation again?
: 
: Ahhh, I had the same problem when installing my 3c905 at work.  This
: card is also known as the Boomerang.  You'll see that name if you
: recompile the kernel.  On my Debian CD which was 1.3.1, I believe -
: almost a year old, it did not have the 3c905 driver.  I had to go out
: and get it.  

Use the "Vortex" driver - 3c59x.o  Works well here.

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Re: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

[Autumn]

> Hmm... anything in the syslogs(/var/log)?  Run a ps ax and see if there is
> a sleep running, perhaps anacron is going nuts?  Is it a graceful
> shutdown?  (Keep the replies to the list as I will be of little help.)

Nothing sleeping, and anacron is not installed.  I have even removed things 
like mail
and at from one of the machines to see what happens.  Nothing.

Presumably the shutdown is _not_ graceful, as nothing about it is being logged, 
and
the filesystems are flagged as "unchecked" at boot time.

Autumn


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Re: Silly little swap question

[danair]

Bob Bernstein wrote:
> 
> Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but can bo and hamm share the same swap
> partition?
> 
> My ISP has finally got a 56K connect up and running and I'm thinking of using
> a 300 meg partition on this machine (currently holding OpenDOS - which I
> haven't touched in months ) to take hamm for a spin, only I don't want to
> do any major surgery on the drive. All three, bo, hamm, and a swap partition
> would be on the same drive.
> 

I run different Linux distributions off syquest disks and mount /home
and swap 
from my main hard drive which is running hamm.

Dan.


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smail is not working (MY USERS ARE GOING TO KILL ME)

[Edward Betts]

I go on the net (ppp) static IP address, loads of e-mail comes in from my
ISP by SMTP. smail does not deliever it, you have to run, runq, that does
not work most of the time. it has not been delievering outgoing mails they
just sit in the spool directory, why?

I used option 3 in the config scripts smarthost - which i set to my ISPs
post server.


Can you help???

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Re: utmp/wtmp problems

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote:

> I just upgraded to hamm from 1.3r8, everything seemed to go smoothly, but
> now I have a bit of a problem with utmp/wtmp. [see below]. I remember
> seeing something about this in the past, however I cannot find the message.

Package: xbase, program: xterm, happens when you logout.
http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html

Brandon

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Problems with ImageMagick in bo (Debian 1.3.r6)

[Wojciech Marek Zabolotny]

Hi All!

 Does anybody used successfully the "-draw" command with the "convert"
program available in ImageMagick in bo distribution?
 The only graphic primitive it accepts is "circle". When I type:

convert -pen "red" -draw "circle 5,5 10,10" image.gif im2.gif

everything works fine, but when I type:

convert -pen "red" -draw "line 5,5 10,10" image.gif im2.gif

I get the error message:

convert: Non-conforming drawing primitive definition ( 5,5 10,10) [No such
file or directory].

The same occures for other primitives. Is it a bug, or I'm doing something 
wrong?

TIA
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Re: Please clarify...

[Jens Ritter]

Neil Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Should I really wait for the stable release? Seeing as I am not 
> desperate to upgrade?

In case it is expensive for you to get internet access, it is wise to
wait for official cdroms.

1.3.1 -> hamm takes ~50 MB of downloads.

Jens
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Re: TV tuner fuction (novice question)

[Shaleh]

Get a video card and a tuner.  All in one cards tend to not be happy,
especially in Linux.  The ATI card should read "All-in-one, it's a
wonder it works".  I have heard WAY to many bad storries of ATI cards,
Linux and Winblows.



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Re: compiling sendmail on libc6: redefinitions in socket.h

[Jens Ritter]

Lutz Kotoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i'm trying to compile sendmail 8.9.0 on a libc6 system, but all i get is
> tons of error  like the following:

Have a look at the slink sendmail package.
debian/dists/slink/main/source/mail/sendmail_8.9.0-3.diff.gz
etc.

HTH,

Jens

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PCMCIA again

[M.C. Bezemer]

Hi!

I have compiled the pcmcia-source along with the kernel, but now
i have another problem: the cardmgr doesn't quite do what it should...
from the logs:
initializing socket 1: Fujitsu FMV-J182 LAN Card
executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/fmvj18x_cs.o'
get dev info on socket 1 failed: No such device

maybe i just made some typo's but it comes down on the last line: the get
dev info... is there someone else with the same card and has it working or
someone else with experience so I finally can have the lap top linked to
the network?

Thanx in advance,

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Re: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Autumn wrote:

> Sorry I didn't make that clear.  It is the latter.  The first machine goes, 
> and
> six hours later the next machine goes, and ten minutes later, the last one 
> goes.
> The interval between machines stays the same to within a minute.
> 
> I'm not convinced that the time offset is significant.  I have not tried
> rebooting all three machines at the same time to see if they stay in sync,
> because people will scream.
> 
> Does the above-named Society already subscribe to this list, or do I have to
> email them separately?

Hmm... anything in the syslogs(/var/log)?  Run a ps ax and see if there is
a sleep running, perhaps anacron is going nuts?  Is it a graceful
shutdown?  (Keep the replies to the list as I will be of little help.)

Brandon

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Re: pci problem with dell

[Mark H. Mabry]

> "Daryl" == Daryl Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote the following on Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:28:16 -0700

  Daryl> mark, thanks for your reply. i am have a 3com 3c905B-TX card
  Daryl> as well as a Kingston 10/100 card that is an NB2000
  Daryl> clone. they both show up in /proc/pci, however i was unable
  Daryl> to install the drivers for either.  i have just finished
  Daryl> loading the base system from disk and was planning on using
  Daryl> ftp to get the rest of the o.s. however now i am in a
  Daryl> catch-22 situation as i cannot see the network. is there any
  Daryl> way to try to install

  Daryl> the drivers without going through the installation again?

Ahhh, I had the same problem when installing my 3c905 at work.  This
card is also known as the Boomerang.  You'll see that name if you
recompile the kernel.  On my Debian CD which was 1.3.1, I believe -
almost a year old, it did not have the 3c905 driver.  I had to go out
and get it.  

When I was recompiling the 2.0.34 kernel I'm pretty sure I saw it in
there, so you could 
  1) go out and get a new kernel source and compile, or
  2) get a newer kernel*.deb file and see if that has the driver.

Sorry but I don't use the kernel*.deb packages, so I really don't know
about that.

I don't know of a way for you to get ethernet running with the 3c905
and only your current Debian CD.  And I don't know anything about the
NB2000.  

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Re: pci problem with dell

[Daryl Williams]

mark,

thanks for your reply. i am have a 3com 3c905B-TX card as well as
a Kingston 10/100 card that is an NB2000 clone. they both show up
in /proc/pci, however i was unable to install the drivers for either.
i have just finished loading the base system from disk and was planning
on using ftp to get the rest of the o.s. however now i am in a catch-22
situation as i cannot see the network. is there any way to try to install

the drivers without going through the installation again?

thanks in advance,

//daryl


Mark H. Mabry wrote:

> > "Daryl" == Daryl Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote the following on Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:03:26 -0700
>
>   Daryl> i have installed debian 1.3 on a dell dimension xps 333 mhz
>   Daryl> system.  everything appears to have gone well except for ta
>   Daryl> problem with the pci bus and the ethernet drivers. here is
>   Daryl> the error message i am getting:
>
>   Daryl> Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7111).  Please read
>   Daryl> include/linux/pci.h
>
> I believe if you upgrade to the latest stable Debian, this warning
> will go away.  If I remember correctly, they are harmless.
>
>   Daryl> i am also unable to install my ethernet drivers (i am using
>   Daryl> pci adapters).  has anyone else seen this problem? or know of
>   Daryl> a fix? any hints, rtfms, etc.  would be welcomed.
>
> What ethernet card are you using?
>
> Mark Mabry
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Re: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

[Autumn]

> Sorry I didn't make that clear.  It is the latter.  The first machine goes, 
> and
> six hours later the next machine goes, and ten minutes later, the last one 
> goes.
> The interval between machines stays the same to within a minute.

Whoops!

It's not six hours, it's one hour.  That was the new machine: System clock set 
to
EST, timezone set to GMT-5... not that it matters, a miss being as good as a 
mile.

Autumn


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Re: pci problem with dell

[Mark H. Mabry]

> "Daryl" == Daryl Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote the following on Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:03:26 -0700

  Daryl> i have installed debian 1.3 on a dell dimension xps 333 mhz
  Daryl> system.  everything appears to have gone well except for ta
  Daryl> problem with the pci bus and the ethernet drivers. here is
  Daryl> the error message i am getting:

  Daryl> Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7111).  Please read
  Daryl> include/linux/pci.h

I believe if you upgrade to the latest stable Debian, this warning
will go away.  If I remember correctly, they are harmless.

  Daryl> i am also unable to install my ethernet drivers (i am using
  Daryl> pci adapters).  has anyone else seen this problem? or know of
  Daryl> a fix? any hints, rtfms, etc.  would be welcomed.

What ethernet card are you using?

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portamap messages filling my logfiles

[Obi]

Hi all,

once in a while, mostly when new machine are added to the network, I start
getting messages from my portmap:

sport portmap[3612]: connect from 132.239.9.218 to callit(ypserv): 
request from unauthorized host

and these messages fill my logfile. My machine is the only one in my lab to be
filled with these messages. I don't do NIS.

Why my machine is getting these messages and how can avoid them?

graziano


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Re: serving a win95 box

[servis]

On 16 Jun, Robert Wilderspin wrote:
> On 16 Jun 98 11:20:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>Can a linux box be used to serve a Win95 box the same way two Win95 
>>boxes can be hooked up together? Eg. -- can linux be set up in such a 
>>way that an ethernet connected Win95 box can 'see' some of the linux 
>>drives  in its "Network Neighborhood" box, map them with drive 
>>letters, and run to programs in those directories as if they were on 
>>the Win95 box itself?
> 
> You can connect a Linux box up and view whichever directories you
> choose to allow access to, and map them to drives as you wish, using
> the Samba package.
> 
> However, I'm not entirely sure if you can run programs directly from
> those drives (ie, without copying them to the Win95 box first).  Only
> one way to find out!
> 

Yes, you can run programs from the shares.  However programs that use
the registry or .ini files and were installed on box A(server) under
Win95 but are now being served to box B(client) from linux on box A(
a dual boot) will probably have problems finding support files,etc. If
the programs are freshly installed to a drive on box A from box B then
it should not be a problem if you don't change the network drive
mappings in the future.

This has been my experience at least, as usual YMMV.

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Re: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

[Autumn]

> Are the machines rebooting simultaneously (i.e. at the same absolute clock
> times, allowing for system clocks differing), or at quite different absloute
> times (but with matching inter-reboot intervals)?
>
> If the former, consider your power supply.
>
> If the latter, then the Society for the Investigation of Paranormal Phenomena
> would like to hear from you.

Sorry I didn't make that clear.  It is the latter.  The first machine goes, and
six hours later the next machine goes, and ten minutes later, the last one goes.
The interval between machines stays the same to within a minute.

I'm not convinced that the time offset is significant.  I have not tried
rebooting all three machines at the same time to see if they stay in sync,
because people will scream.

Does the above-named Society already subscribe to this list, or do I have to
email them separately?

Autumn


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Mesa

[timothy]

Does anyone have any idea how long until Mesa3.0 libraries will be debianized?
(Appararently it is req'd by the latest version of Blender. :(. ).
Thanks,
Timothy

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pci problem with dell

[Daryl Williams]

i have installed debian 1.3 on a dell dimension xps 333 mhz system.
everything appears to have gone well except for ta problem with the
pci bus and the ethernet drivers. here is the error message i am
getting:

Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7111).  Please read
include/linux/pci.h

i am also unable to install my ethernet drivers (i am using pci
adapters).
has anyone else seen this problem? or know of a fix? any hints, rtfms,
etc.
would be welcomed.

tia,

//daryl

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Re: 8 GB limit on cfdisk?

[Martin Str|mberg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: 
: I'm having a problem partitioning my 9.6 GB harddrive on my Dell P-II
: 400.  This is an EIDE drive.  When I use cfdisk, it sees only 8 GB.
: I believe that this is due to a limit in cfdisk which sets the max
: number of sectors to 1024.  Mine should have 1227 (approx).  
: 
: When I boot Linux it identifies my hard drive and says it has 9.6 GB.
: Also, when I used Partition Magic to reformat my windoze 95 area, it
: saw all of my disk.  
: 
: I am running linux 2.0.34, cfdisk 0.8l (from util-linux-2.8), on
: Debian 1.3.1r8.  
: 
: Is this a program limitation?  Is there a workaround?  Is there
: another program for Linux that I could use?

Are you using the setting LBA in the BIOS? I think I do and I have a
8.5GB disk with heads 255 sectors 63 and cylinders 784. Those are not
near any 1024 limit.


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RE: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

[Ted Harding]

On 16-Jun-98 Autumn wrote:
> I've tried throwing up my hands in frustration, but so far it hasn't
> helped.
> 
> I have three Debian machines here, and they're rebooting quite
> frequently on almost exactly the same irregular schedule.  The time
> between reboots has ranged from 11 to 70 hours over the past couple of
> weeks.  There are occasional anomalies, but the time between reboots is
> usually identical to within a minute on the three machines.
> 
> One machine (Hamm 2.0.33 as-installed) is outside our firewall.  The
> others (Bo, 2.0.27 as-installed, and Bo 2.0.30 customized), are inside,
> but do not have regular communication with each other or the one
> outside.  The only exception is that the 2.0.27 machine has its clock
> synchronized to the 2.0.30's with netdate.
> 
> I can discern no patterns in the timing.  I have removed all of the
> packages that I reasonably can, to no avail.  There are no core dumps.
> Nothing useful is being logged at any time immediately preceeding the
> reboots.
> 
> Can someone suggest some other things that I should look at?

Are the machines rebooting simultaneously (i.e. at the same absolute clock
times, allowing for system clocks differing), or at quite different absloute
times (but with matching inter-reboot intervals)?

If the former, consider your power supply.

If the latter, then the Society for the Investigation of Paranormal Phenomena
would like to hear from you.

Best wishes,
Ted.


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Re: utmp/wtmp problems

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Troy Hanson wrote:

: I just upgraded to hamm from 1.3r8, everything seemed to go smoothly, but
: now I have a bit of a problem with utmp/wtmp. [see below]. I remember
: seeing something about this in the past, however I cannot find the message.
: 
: The rest of the system is functioning fine.

Hi Troy :)

Have you rebooted the system since the upgrade?  libc5 apps now use
wrapper functions when manipulating utmp/wtmp, but the wrapper functions
aren't enable until a reboot.

You don't mention, but hopefully you used the autoup script to upgrade.
It ensures that you have the necessary libs and packages to make the
libc5-libc6 transition.

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utmp/wtmp problems

[Troy Hanson]

I just upgraded to hamm from 1.3r8, everything seemed to go smoothly, but
now I have a bit of a problem with utmp/wtmp. [see below]. I remember
seeing something about this in the past, however I cannot find the message.

The rest of the system is functioning fine.

Any help would be appreciated!
thanks,
troy

-
last gives garbage.
flint:~ $ last | head
troy ttyp0kprod60.rconnect Tue Jun 16 13:28   still logged in
***5   Wed Dec 31 18:00 - 18:00  (00:00)
0  Thu Oct 18 03:51 - 18:00
(-21840+-8:-51)
***5  ***5 Sat Jan 10 12:22 - 03:51 (9412+14:28)
**   dian.mountai 1Sun Apr  7 00:43   still logged in
**   dian.mountai 4Wed Dec 31 18:00 - 00:43 (1557+05:43)
**   dian.mountai 3Wed Dec 31 18:00 - 18:00  (00:00)
**0Wed Dec 31 18:00 - 18:00  (00:00)
*B***5 Wed Dec 31 18:00 - 18:00  (00:00)


No output from who
flint:~ $ who
flint:~ $

'w' gives nearly correct information
flint:~ $ w
  1:32pm  up 14:55h,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
USER  TTYLOGIN@  IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
troy ttyp0   1:28pm   0:01   0:00   ?-
troy ttyp2  10:58pm 201:07   0:00   ?-
troy ttyp4  11:29pm 763:22   0:00   ?-


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Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three machines.

[Autumn]

I've tried throwing up my hands in frustration, but so far it hasn't
helped.

I have three Debian machines here, and they're rebooting quite
frequently on almost exactly the same irregular schedule.  The time
between reboots has ranged from 11 to 70 hours over the past couple of
weeks.  There are occasional anomalies, but the time between reboots is
usually identical to within a minute on the three machines.

One machine (Hamm 2.0.33 as-installed) is outside our firewall.  The
others (Bo, 2.0.27 as-installed, and Bo 2.0.30 customized), are inside,
but do not have regular communication with each other or the one
outside.  The only exception is that the 2.0.27 machine has its clock
synchronized to the 2.0.30's with netdate.

I can discern no patterns in the timing.  I have removed all of the
packages that I reasonably can, to no avail.  There are no core dumps.
Nothing useful is being logged at any time immediately preceeding the
reboots.

Can someone suggest some other things that I should look at?

Thanks in advance,
Autumn Umanetz


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Re: serving a win95 box

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 16 Jun 98 11:20:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Can a linux box be used to serve a Win95 box the same way two Win95 
>boxes can be hooked up together? Eg. -- can linux be set up in such a 
>way that an ethernet connected Win95 box can 'see' some of the linux 
>drives  in its "Network Neighborhood" box, map them with drive 
>letters, and run to programs in those directories as if they were on 
>the Win95 box itself?

You can connect a Linux box up and view whichever directories you
choose to allow access to, and map them to drives as you wish, using
the Samba package.

However, I'm not entirely sure if you can run programs directly from
those drives (ie, without copying them to the Win95 box first).  Only
one way to find out!

>  I'm setting up a second system for the family but have quite a bit 
>of 'extra' HD space on my own box.  Would like to use some of my 
>space to store programs for the second box.

Storage is fine, but like I said, you *might* not be able to actually
run them whilst on the Linux drives.  Anyone want to clarify this?


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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

> Hi, Brandon!
> 
> My pland dies almost instantly, do you know about solution for that similar 
>to  lpr?

But that seems to be different in nature.  It terminates because it incorrectly 
things that the application calling it is done.

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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

[Alexander Kushnirenko]

Hi, Brandon!

My pland dies almost instantly, do you know about solution for that similar to 
lpr?

Thanks,
Sasha.
> 
> Fixed:
> ii  lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
> 
> Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the
> /etc/init.d/lpd restart section.
> 
> HTH,
> Brandon
> 
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Re: Please clarify...

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:39:36 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

>> I love that term, FUD.  It implies an untruth.  It is true that people
>> have complained about a bo->hamm upgade on this list.

>But you draw the wrong conclusions. I already told you that hamm is not
>released. If there are many severe problems with the upgrade from category
>three above *after* we release hamm, I'm happy to agree with you.

No, I draw an alternate conclusion based on facts and experiences
seperate from your own.  We both could go blue in the face (or get advanced
carpal tunnel) defending our stances.  I do not think either is wrong.  I
just don't agree with the absolutes that all upgrades don't need a reinstall.

>There is the package "cruft" in slink, which will compare dpkg's databases
>with the installed files and print the differences (taking a lot of further
>input into account).

So, you're telling me to use a package in the "unstable" distribution
that is one step beyond the "unstable" distribution that I want to upgrade to
to take care of my installation?  ;)

>Those are two different things. Please read again my note about "hamm is not
>released yet". But read also below about exceptions.

Uhm, no.  They were about the same thing.  Someone wanting to reinstall
from "bo" to "hamm."

>Satisfied?

Nah, just leave it at "There are times when a reinstall is needed."

>In my opinion, a few directories left over do not warrant a reinstall. YMMV.

That was an exmaple.

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Re: Please clarify...

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 10:20:02AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:07:27 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> >there are two cases where an upgrade can fail:
> 
> A monty Python fan there, eh?

I study mathematics --- I can neither count nor calculate :)
 
> >1) You waited to long. It may be hard to upgrade a rexx system (although
> >2) You changed the system in places unknown to dpkg. I'm not sure how much
> >3) A bug in either a package or dpkg. Please report the bug, we'll try to
> 
> ;)
> 
> >Please don't spread FUD about it.
> 
> I love that term, FUD.  It implies an untruth.  It is true that people
> have complained about a bo->hamm upgade on this list.

But you draw the wrong conclusions. I already told you that hamm is not
released. If there are many severe problems with the upgrade from category
three above *after* we release hamm, I'm happy to agree with you.
 
> Here is another truth.  I've got directories and files that were not
> removed when a package was purged.

Those are bugs, please report them (please don't report when directories are
left --- this bug is known and reported multiple times. It is so old, you
can almost call it a feature :)

> Easiest way to reclaim all this space,
> aside from a few hours of searching the entire HD is to take about an hour to
> just wipe the main static portions while leaving the dynamic portions alone.

There is the package "cruft" in slink, which will compare dpkg's databases
with the installed files and print the differences (taking a lot of further
input into account).

> >hamm manually, not only recently but also in earlier states of hamm. The
> >success varied, but made me optimistic that mostly all users can upgrade
> >easily (either using autoup.sh or apt) to hamm *without* reinstall.
> 
> This goes against this:
> 
> >Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
> >superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
> >every version, even major version changes.
> 
> "The success varied" and "that mostly all users can upgrade easily...to
> hamm *without* reinstall" also states that there were failures and that there
> will be users who cannot uprgrade w/o a reinstall.

Those are two different things. Please read again my note about "hamm is not
released yet". But read also below about exceptions.

> "There is no need for a
> re-install" is an aboslute.  In your own words you have conceeded there will
> be cases that there will be a need for a reinstall.

Oh well, write it on a poster and stick it on a wall: I made a too extreme
statement. For the record:

"There are cases were a reinstall is better than an update. If this is the
result of a problem in the Debian distribution, please report it as a bug."

Satisfied?

In my opinion, a few directories left over do not warrant a reinstall. YMMV.

> >BTW: You also want to keep /usr/local, /home and parts of /var.
> 
> People generally seperate those out from / while /etc is not.  I did
> state that one would be replacing the "Static" portions of the OS. 
> /usr/local, /home, /var, /tmp are rarely static.

Ok.

Marcus

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Re: Please clarify...

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:07:27 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

>there are two cases where an upgrade can fail:

A monty Python fan there, eh?

>1) You waited to long. It may be hard to upgrade a rexx system (although
>2) You changed the system in places unknown to dpkg. I'm not sure how much
>3) A bug in either a package or dpkg. Please report the bug, we'll try to

;)

>Please don't spread FUD about it.

I love that term, FUD.  It implies an untruth.  It is true that people
have complained about a bo->hamm upgade on this list.

Here is another truth.  I've got directories and files that were not
removed when a package was purged.  Easiest way to reclaim all this space,
aside from a few hours of searching the entire HD is to take about an hour to
just wipe the main static portions while leaving the dynamic portions alone.

>hamm manually, not only recently but also in earlier states of hamm. The
>success varied, but made me optimistic that mostly all users can upgrade
>easily (either using autoup.sh or apt) to hamm *without* reinstall.

This goes against this:

>Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
>superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
>every version, even major version changes.

"The success varied" and "that mostly all users can upgrade easily...to
hamm *without* reinstall" also states that there were failures and that there
will be users who cannot uprgrade w/o a reinstall.  "There is no need for a
re-install" is an aboslute.  In your own words you have conceeded there will
be cases that there will be a need for a reinstall.

>BTW: You also want to keep /usr/local, /home and parts of /var.

People generally seperate those out from / while /etc is not.  I did
state that one would be replacing the "Static" portions of the OS. 
/usr/local, /home, /var, /tmp are rarely static.


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Re: netscape 4 configuration

[Gregory T. Norris]

The netscape package is only an installer.  You need to download the
tarball from Netscape's site, place it in /tmp (owned by root, as the
message says), and then try the installation again.

At 11:20 AM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I've installed netscape 4 from dselect, but when I try to configure it
>(also in dselect), I get the following error messages:
>
>The netscape archive must be in /tmp, owned by root, and under a name
>matching one of the following:
>
>communicator-v4*.x86-*-linux*.tar*
>navigator-vr*.x86-*-linux*.tar*
>
>Am I doing this right, or is there another place where I need to setup
>netscape?

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Re: Please clarify...

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 10:15:07AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> > Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
> > superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
> > every version, even major version changes.
> 
>   I was told that there was a way to auto-upgrade.  That is, my
> debian system would mirror or sense an update on the net somehow, and then
> download all appropriate packages and install them.  Is this a myth, work
> in progress, or reality?

This is reality, often tested and works on many systems.

The script is called autoup.sh, and is available from Craig Sanders, but
also via Debian. I don't have an adress handy, please look at the
website/ftpsite/in the mailing list archives. If you don't find it, anybody
else knows?

Be sure to read the mini-HOWTO and take a look at the script, so that you
roughly understand what it is doing.

The alternative is to use apt. Nobody knows which of both works better.

Marcus

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Re: Please clarify...

[Nick Moffitt]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
> superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
> every version, even major version changes.

I was told that there was a way to auto-upgrade.  That is, my
debian system would mirror or sense an update on the net somehow, and then
download all appropriate packages and install them.  Is this a myth, work
in progress, or reality?


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Re: Please clarify...

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 09:52:12AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:50:15 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> >Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
> >superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
> >every version, even major version changes.
> 
> Rght, that is why we see people in here complaining about problems
> with a bo->hamm upgrade.  I'm sorry, but some things should have a reinstall.
>  That is why the "superior" method it to seperate the static OS directories
> on their own partitions and just wipe them out.  All you really need to save
> is /etc.

Steve,

there are two cases where an upgrade can fail:

1) You waited to long. It may be hard to upgrade a rexx system (although
possible), and even harder to upgrade a buzz system, because interim
releases are not available.
2) You changed the system in places unknown to dpkg. I'm not sure how much
this can do harm. Dpkg has configuration file handling, but installing local
software elsewhere than in /usr/local can rise problems. PLease use
/usr/local and the appropriate places instead.
3) A bug in either a package or dpkg. Please report the bug, we'll try to
fix it, thank you.

People complaining about bo->hamm upgrade should not try to upgrade at all.
Hamm is not released software yet. Everyone installing it before release
time knows that he must expect problems. We appreciate testing reports, but
not at the cost of disappointing our users. This is the reason why we don't
encourage installing hamm, although it's quite stable.

There are many boxes, where outtime does cost real money and "wiping" out
the partition is not possible. Debian works fine there, and many people used
Debian without reinstall up from the very first beginning.

Please don't spread FUD about it. I upgraded more than one system from bo to
hamm manually, not only recently but also in earlier states of hamm. The
success varied, but made me optimistic that mostly all users can upgrade
easily (either using autoup.sh or apt) to hamm *without* reinstall.

My observations on the various debian lists, including debian-testing,
only support this opinion.

BTW: You also want to keep /usr/local, /home and parts of /var.

Marcus

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Re: Please clarify...

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:50:15 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

>Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
>superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
>every version, even major version changes.

Rght, that is why we see people in here complaining about problems
with a bo->hamm upgrade.  I'm sorry, but some things should have a reinstall.
 That is why the "superior" method it to seperate the static OS directories
on their own partitions and just wipe them out.  All you really need to save
is /etc.



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Where has logwrites gone?

[Hannu Koivisto]

Greetings,

I have noticed that a package logwrites hasn't been available
for a long time anymore. Any ideas why it has disappeared and
whether it will come back or not?


Some time ago I hacked up some administration tools that allow
me to keep all (/usr/)local installations under the control of
Debian package manager and they rely on the logwrites. I can,
for example, say something like this with a typical source
package that uses standard configure+make sequence:

./configure
make
su
ldeb-install --package=foo --version=1.0
make install
cp some-extra-files /usr/local/bin/
exit
#  would build a Debian package out of the
   # installation for installing it to other machines
exit

and voi'la, when I say ldpkg -l (ldpkg == dpkg
--adminroot=/usr/local...) I can see that I now have a new
package foo under dpkg's control and when I say ldpkg -L foo, I
can see the list of files that make install and extra cp command 
copied to /usr/local tree.


TIA,
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8 GB limit on cfdisk?

[Mark H. Mabry]

I'm having a problem partitioning my 9.6 GB harddrive on my Dell P-II
400.  This is an EIDE drive.  When I use cfdisk, it sees only 8 GB.
I believe that this is due to a limit in cfdisk which sets the max
number of sectors to 1024.  Mine should have 1227 (approx).  

When I boot Linux it identifies my hard drive and says it has 9.6 GB.
Also, when I used Partition Magic to reformat my windoze 95 area, it
saw all of my disk.  

I am running linux 2.0.34, cfdisk 0.8l (from util-linux-2.8), on
Debian 1.3.1r8.  

Is this a program limitation?  Is there a workaround?  Is there
another program for Linux that I could use?

Any and all help is much appreciated.

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Re: Please clarify...

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 07:48:26AM -0700, Neil Cheshire wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could someone please clarify for me about all the Debian releases. I 
> currently run Debian 1.3 which is bo , right?

Yes.

> I haven't really done much 
> to my system so was going to reinstall with Debian 2.0 which is hamm , 
> ok so far?

Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
every version, even major version changes.

Again: Dpkg is designed to handle all upgrades. There are some things to
watch for, but nothing serious. If you can't update your system cleanly, it
is a bug (and a severe one, too).

Reinstalls are for Windows.

> So what is slink? Is this what is coming out in June, ie. a 
> stable hamm?

No. Hamm will be released as stable as soon it is finished.

> Will that be 2.1 or is that coming later?

The next release will be Hamm 2.0. Slink 2.1 will come after that, probably
September/october.

> Should I really wait for the stable release? Seeing as I am not 
> desperate to upgrade?

You should wait for the stable release. If you need security updates, they
are incorporated in bo. If you need other upgrades, they are probably in
bo-updates or bo-unstable at the ftp site.

If you are an experienced user and want to test the upgrade, you are welcome
to do so before the stable release (I run hamm since november last year).
Note. however, that it *may* crash your system seriously (not that I think
of a special bug, but take care).
 
> 1.2 rex
> 1.3 bo
> 2.0 hamm?

2.1 slink

1.1 (0.93?) buzz

Marcus


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chat will not send password

[Chip Grandits]

I have been attempting for some time to establish a ppp connection with my 
internet service provider.  There are many ways to do this depending upon which 
document I consult (NET-3-HOWTO, ISP-Hookup-HOWTO, DIP man pages, Debian User's 
Guide, ad nauseam).  Currently I am trying to directly invoke the pppd and use 
a chatscript as described in the Debian User's Guide.  I have the correct port, 
dial the number, correctly log in my user name, but chat will not send my 
password at the Password prompt given by my ISP.  
Here is my chatscript (not my real password, though):
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
ABORT WAITING
"" AT&F\r
OK AT&D2&C1\r
OK ATDT3810293


ogin: chipg\r
Password: zzz\r

Password: zzz\r

***end chatscript file***
By looking at the connect-errors file, which I believe is created because of 
the '-V' option I use to invoke chat I see that everything works up to 'login', 
but the expect part of the Password line doesn't work (I have of course tried 
assword:, ssword:, sword:, word: ) 
I have even tried inserting a REPORT Password statement, and chat duly reports 
that it sees Password, but the expect part doesn't work.  If I add some more 
expect lines (as I have in the above version of my chatscript, where I simply 
expect Password again) I get "Invalid Login"  and my password is supplied to a 
subsequent login prompt.  

I tried for a couple of days to understand and use DIP (also to no avail).  
Although in DIP I was able to get into a terminal mode where I could manually 
login.  The Password prompt comes directly after I hit the RETURN key to send 
my user ID. (no need for additional RETURN keys or BREAKs or anything that I 
can tell).  The only thing Unique AND THIS MAY BE THE A LEAD TO THE SECRET is 
that my password is not echoed back.

To be honest I wouldn't mind manually logging in every time.  Isn't there some 
simply way I can just have a manual terminal, log in myself, and have the pppd 
take over??

Or perhaps someone knows why chat won't work for me?

Thank You,
Chip Grandits

P.S. 
Below is some excerpts from my connect-errors log generated by chat (I assume). 
 Running commentary in <> added afterwards with text editor.


AT&F
OK
AT&D2&C1
OK
ATDT3810293
CONNECT 31200/ARQchat:  Jun 16 01:39:38 CONNECT 31200/ARQ

Front Range Internet, Inc.
Unauthorized Access is Prohibited.


Login:chipg
Password:



AT&F
OK
AT&D2&C1
OK
ATDT3810293
CONNECT 31200/ARQ
Front Range Internet, Inc.
Unauthorized Access is Prohibited.


Login:chipg
Password: chat:  Jun 16 01:54:35 Password: 

Invalid Login
Login:zzz

Password: 


AT&F
OK
AT&D2&C1
OK
ATDT3810293
CONNECT 31200/ARQ
Front Range Internet, Inc.
Unauthorized Access is Prohibited.


Login:chipg
Password:



AT&F
OK
AT&D2&C1
OK
ATDT3810293
CONNECT 31200/ARQ
Front Range Internet, Inc.
Unauthorized Access is Prohibited.


Login:chipg
Password:chat:  Jun 16 02:01:53 Password: 

netscape 4 configuration

[Brian Morgan]

I've installed netscape 4 from dselect, but when I try to configure it
(also in dselect), I get the following error messages:

The netscape archive must be in /tmp, owned by root, and under a name
matching one of the following:

communicator-v4*.x86-*-linux*.tar*
navigator-vr*.x86-*-linux*.tar*

Am I doing this right, or is there another place where I need to setup
netscape?

Also, is there an easy way to configure XWindows so that programs you
setup in the .xinitrc file are run "minimized" or placed in a certain
location of the screen?  Is this in the X man page?

Brian Morgan


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Unidentified subject!

[Jon Skelton]

info debian-user


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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

I use less to peek into tarballs; and deb files, and so on. I
 am appending my version of the lessopen script (look at
 /usr/bin/lesspipe and /usr/doc/less/LESOPEN.gz). No fuss, no muss,
 and I don't have to learn how to use mc ;-)

manoj

#!/bin/sh
# Decode directories:
if [ -d "$1" ]; then
echo "$1:"; ls -als $1
else
case "$1" in
*.tar.gz|*.tgz|*.tar.Z)
tar tzvvf $1 
zcat $1 
;;
*.Z|*.gz)
gunzip -c $1
;;
*.bz2)
bunzip2 -ckd $1
;;
*.bz)
bunzip -ckd $1
;;
*.tar)
tar tvf $1 
cat $1
;;
*.deb)
echo "$1:"; 
dpkg --info $1; 
echo -e '\n*** Contents:'; 
dpkg-deb --contents $1 
;;
*.zip|*.ZIP)
if [ -x /usr/bin/unzip ]; then 
unzip -v $1; 
else 
echo "No unzip available"; 
fi 
;;
*.lzh)
if [  -x /usr/bin/lha ]; then
lha v $1;
else
echo "No lha available";
fi
;;
*.rpm)
if [  -x /usr/bin/rpm ]; then
echo $1;
 rpm -q -i -p $1; 
 echo -e '\n*** Contents:';
 rpm -q -l -p $1;
else
echo "No rpm available";
fi
;;
*.zoo)
if [  -x /usr/bin/zoo ]; then
zoo v $1;
else
echo "No zoo available";
fi
;;
*.arj|*.ARJ)
if [  -x /usr/bin/unarj ]; then
unarj -v $1;
else
echo "No unarj available";
fi
;;
*.gif|*.jpeg|*.jpg|*.pcd|*.png|*.tga|*.tiff|*.tif)
if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/identify ]; then 
/usr/X11R6/bin/identify $1;
else 
echo -e "No identify available
echo -e Install ImageMagick to browse images"; 
fi 
;;
esac
fi
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Re: TV tuner fuction (novice question)

[Weimin LI]

At 05:49 PM 6/16/98 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Bad luck for you!
>
>Due to ATI's refusal to release any specs to potential driver developers,
>a driver for that card is nonexistant.
>
>  http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/v4l.shtml
>
>(look at the bottom of the page.)
>
>Of course, feel free to inquire with ATI if there is a linux driver (might
>change their minds if enough people do.)

Thanks a lot Joost for your lightning-quick response! :-)

By the way, could you give me some advices on choosing non-ATI card 
combinations?  I want a fast card, preferrably AGP compliant, with
8MB of VRAM plus some fancy functions like TV tuner etc.

regards,

Weimin



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Re: TV tuner fuction (novice question)

[joost]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Weimin LI wrote:

> If running Debian 2.x on a PC with an ATI ALL-IN-WONDER video card, 
> is there any way to make the TV tuner fuction work?

Bad luck for you!

Due to ATI's refusal to release any specs to potential driver developers,
a driver for that card is nonexistant.

  http://roadrunner.swansea.uk.linux.org/v4l.shtml

(look at the bottom of the page.)

Of course, feel free to inquire with ATI if there is a linux driver (might
change their minds if enough people do.)

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Please clarify...

[servis]

On 16 Jun, David Z. Maze wrote:
> 
> Neil Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> NC> Could someone please clarify for me about all the Debian
> NC> releases. I currently run Debian 1.3 which is bo , right? I
> NC> haven't really done much to my system so was going to reinstall
> NC> with Debian 2.0 which is hamm , ok so far?

Not sure what you mean by 'reinstall' but with Debian it is not
necessary to wipe clean and start over.  You can upgrade in place. If
you are going to upgrade from bo(1.3) to hamm(2.0) you should get the
'autoup.sh' script that has been written to help with the process.

Goto http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ to get all the necessary file
to start your upgrade.

[remainder of questions already answered]

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TV tuner fuction (novice question)

[Weimin LI]

Hi gurus!

If running Debian 2.x on a PC with an ATI ALL-IN-WONDER video card, 
is there any way to make the TV tuner fuction work?

regards,


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Re: Please clarify...

[David Z. Maze]

Neil Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
NC> Could someone please clarify for me about all the Debian
NC> releases. I currently run Debian 1.3 which is bo , right? I
NC> haven't really done much to my system so was going to reinstall
NC> with Debian 2.0 which is hamm , ok so far?

All good so far.  :-)

NC> So what is slink? Is this what is coming out in June, ie. a 
NC> stable hamm? Will that be 2.1 or is that coming later?

hamm is Debian 2.0, which will be released Real Soon Now (TM).  slink
is Debian 2.1, which will be released sometime later.

NC> Should I really wait for the stable release? Seeing as I am not 
NC> desperate to upgrade?

It depends on whether you care about the last few little bugs.  In my
experience, hamm (and even slink) have been pretty stable so far.

NC> 1.2 rex
NC> 1.3 bo
NC> 2.0 hamm?
2.1 slink

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Please clarify...

[Neil Cheshire]

Hi,

Could someone please clarify for me about all the Debian releases. I 
currently run Debian 1.3 which is bo , right? I haven't really done much 
to my system so was going to reinstall with Debian 2.0 which is hamm , 
ok so far? So what is slink? Is this what is coming out in June, ie. a 
stable hamm? Will that be 2.1 or is that coming later?
Should I really wait for the stable release? Seeing as I am not 
desperate to upgrade?

1.2 rex
1.3 bo
2.0 hamm?

Info please!

Thanks, Neil.


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Re: www.debian.org/Packages/stable/

[Robert Wilderspin]

On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:34:08 -0400, rs202 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've been scoping the various distributions of Linux for a few weeks,
>reading and so forth.  I've just discovered Debian's Packages directory.
>This distribution looks like it would be incredibly simple to maintain
>with the way the packages are typed & organised. I don't see any other
>distributions which come close to this kind of categorisation and simple
>installation.
>
>What are the drawbacks with Debian's package system, if any?

The packages are controlled very tightly by the Debian organisation,
with all official packages being quality checked to ensure that they
interoperate correctly with others, follow Debian guidelines, etc.
This strictness can lead to a delay between software releases and
their inclusion in the official Debian set, although you can guarantee
that when it's there it will work pretty damn well.

People who want software instantly may prefer it otherwise.  Of
course, you can install from tarballs or RPMs if the mood takes you,
but you have to be careful about system integrity if you do that.

Perhaps the biggest drawback is that it's so easy.  Debian system
administrators may have a hard time coping with a Slackware setup, if
forced to do so.


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Install problem (can't install kernel + modules)

[Derek S. Brown]

I'm having trouble midway through the install of Debian 1.3.1. 
Everything runs OK until I get to "install kernel and modules."  Whether
I try this step from files on my hard drive or from files on floppy, it
doesn't seem to work.  The step generates no error messages, but I'm
prompted that "install kernel and modules" is the next step again and
again.

If I run from floppy, this install step (unsuccesfully) "ends" almost
immediately after switching to the device disk.  Same thing if I watch
the prompts from a HD install.  Thus, I'm pretty sure that the snag lies
in installing the device modules (or detecting some devices on my
system).  But since I've tried it both ways, I think I can eliminate a
floppy error.

I used alt-F4 to look for trouble and found this:

  <6>attempt to access beyond end of device 
  <6>07:00: rw=0, want=910, limit=338
  <6>attempt to access beyond end of device 
  <6>07:00: rw=0, want=910, limit=338
  <6>attempt to access beyond end of device 
  <6>07:00: rw=0, want=908, limit=338
  <6>attempt to access beyond end of device 
  <6>07:00: rw=0, want=909, limit=338

This looks like a hard disk error to me.  (I also tried alt-F3, and
every PID was ending with exit status=0, suggesting no error.)

I continued with the remaining install procedures, and after every step,
I was always prompted to repeat 'install kernel and modules.' 
Configuring the devices revealed there was nothing to configure,
naturally.  Finally, I gave up and rebooted the system after all other
steps should have been complete.  During startup, I saw the message "no
device modules installed in this kernel!"  No surprise.  (I didn't see
any other error messages.)

I checked the Hardware HOW-TO, and nothing should be causing problems. 
I have a fairly plain system: Gateway 486SX-33, 20MB RAM, 2 IDE
harddrives, modem, Soundblaster (plain 8-bit).  I tried install first
with my internal cache enabled, and again with it disabled.  No change. 
I tried install with my modem removed -- no change.  If it really is a
hard drive problem, here's more info:

Master -- DOS, C:, 240 MB
Slave  --  405 MB

I first used FIPS on drive D: to end up with a 110MB DOS partion on
/dev/hdb1, a 20MB swap partion on /dev/hdb2, a 50MB root partition on
/dev/hdb3/, and a 205MB /usr partition on /dev/hdb4.  I did surface
scans when initializing the partitions, but found no errors or bad
blocks.

I also reformatted drive D: using DOS fdisk (instead of FIPS) to create
110MB partiton.  No change.

Any help appreciated.  Thanks,

Derek Brown
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ZIP & ZIP+ drives

[Max Lawson]

Hi, 

I know the ZIP drive is supported in the kernel; and 
I would like to know if the ZIP+ drive is supported too. 

Thanx in advance, Max


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Re: new install: bo or hamm?

[Brandon Mitchell]

On 16 Jun 1998, Andy Spiegl wrote:

> A friend of mine asked me to install Debian on his new web and
> mail server.  Now I am trying to decide whether I should install
> bo or hamm.  Bo has some pretty old packages and a later upgrade
> to hamm would probably require to shut the system down for a
> while.  But is hamm stable enough yet???

I'd have to say yes.  The worst noticable problem now is that loging out
of an xterm corrupts the wtmp, so that last doesn't work.  I think there
will be another update of X, and a new version of libc6 coming soon, which
may even fix the wtmp problem.  If you can hold out until another set of
base disks make it into incoming (llug.sep.bnl.gov), I would.  Also, be
sure to grab apt from project/experimental, it provides one heck of a
method for dselect.

Let me know if you have any problems,
Brandon

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new install: bo or hamm?

[Andy Spiegl]

Hi!

A friend of mine asked me to install Debian on his new web and
mail server.  Now I am trying to decide whether I should install
bo or hamm.  Bo has some pretty old packages and a later upgrade
to hamm would probably require to shut the system down for a
while.  But is hamm stable enough yet???

Thanks a lot in advance for any hint/opinion!
 Andy.

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compiling sendmail on libc6: redefinitions in socket.h

[Lutz Kotoll]

Hi,

i'm trying to compile sendmail 8.9.0 on a libc6 system, but all i get is
tons of error  like the following:

- snip -
In file included from /usr/include/linux/if.h:23,
 from /usr/include/net/if.h:1,
 from conf.c:4200:
/usr/include/linux/socket.h:38: warning: `SCM_RIGHTS' redefined
/usr/include/socketbits.h:211: warning: this is the location of the previous 
definition
/usr/include/linux/socket.h:41: warning: `SOCK_STREAM' redefined
/usr/include/socketbits.h:40: warning: this is the location of the previous 
definition
[...]
In file included from /usr/include/linux/if.h:23,
 from /usr/include/net/if.h:1,
 from conf.c:4200:
/usr/include/linux/socket.h:9: redefinition of `struct sockaddr'
/usr/include/linux/socket.h:14: redefinition of `struct linger'
/usr/include/linux/socket.h:26: redefinition of `struct msghdr'
- snip -

(yes i have kernel headers 2.0.32!)

does anyone know how to get around this?

Bye,
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MTA suggestions

[Hamish Moffatt]

I have a hamm box, call it A, and a bo box call it B, and another box,
call it C. B and C communicate via UUCP to exchange mail.
A and B are usually not permanently connected, so I get A to route mail 
to both B and C to B. A knows the full route to C so that B does
not have to process the mail on the way through. A & B talk
via UUCICO over TCP/IP. Both A&B run smail.

A & B are now pretty much permanently connected, and I want to switch
A at least to another MTA. I can get B to do the UUCP routing, but I want
to switch MTAs on B when it gets changed to hamm, probably. I am considering
exim for A, but I am not sure what to use for B. To what extentnt does exim 
support UUCP? I've heard that it doesn't do UUCP routing, but does it 
know enough to send one node's mail via UUCP, with no downleaf nodes?

Is there any reason to consider sendmail? For either A or B?
I heard 8.9.0 has good anti-spam, which is becoming a problem at A (but not B).


thanks,
Hamish

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Re: Top doesnt work on a terminal

[W Paul Mills]

On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> 
> I am trying to use top on an old wyse terminal, but it will not display
> the processes below the column header. Also, when quitting, the prompt
> appears in the middle of the system info at the top of the screen, and
> when using commands such as "u", the prompt appears with $xx sequences.
> the xx being a number.
> 
> Can anyone help?

ldd /usr/bin/top 
libproc.so.1.11 => /lib/libproc.so.1.11 (0x4000b000)
libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x4001b000)
libc.so.5 => /usr/lib/libc.so.5 (0x40058000)

top uses ncurses, therefore you need to properly set the TERM 
environment variable. See man ncurses.



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KPCA Speaker Search3

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Re: URGENT e2fsprogs problem

[David Z. Maze]

G Kapetanios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GK> I decided to upgrade to e2fsprogs 1.10-17. Mistake..  It wants an
GK> newer version of dump which requires libe2p2. I can't find this
GK> package anywhere. Can anyone help ??

Running 'dpkg -s e2fsprogs' shows that e2fsprogs Provides: libe2p2, so
it should fulfil that dependency for other programs that require the
library.

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Re: Debian and Fat32

[Anthony Fok]

On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 01:05:48AM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Phlip wrote:
> > 
> > I've seen where Debian has a Linux Kernel 2.0.33 that will allow access
> > to Fat32 partitions but I can't find the Debian package. Is it available
> > yet?
> 
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33_2.0.33-9.deb
> 
>   There's also a prebuilt image package in .../binary-i386/base/.  Note
> also that the standard (non-debian) 2.0.34 kernel now has the FAT32 support
> in it too.

Actually, kernel-source-2.0.34 Debian package has been available for a week
now.  It might be still sitting in Incoming though.  (Or has it made it into
slink yet?  :-)

Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: serving a win95 box

[Peter Iannarelli]

Hello Gerald:

There is a package called samba. It is from what I
understand equivalent to NT. You can share printers,
CDROMs, directories etc.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Gerald V. Livingston lI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 6:20 AM
Subject: serving a win95 box


Can a linux box be used to serve a Win95 box the same way two Win95
boxes can be hooked up together? Eg. -- can linux be set up in such a
way that an ethernet connected Win95 box can 'see' some of the linux
drives  in its "Network Neighborhood" box, map them with drive
letters, and run to programs in those directories as if they were on
the Win95 box itself?

  I'm setting up a second system for the family but have quite a bit
of 'extra' HD space on my own box.  Would like to use some of my
space to store programs for the second box.

Gerald V. Livingston II

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serving a win95 box

[Gerald V. Livingston lI]

Can a linux box be used to serve a Win95 box the same way two Win95 
boxes can be hooked up together? Eg. -- can linux be set up in such a 
way that an ethernet connected Win95 box can 'see' some of the linux 
drives  in its "Network Neighborhood" box, map them with drive 
letters, and run to programs in those directories as if they were on 
the Win95 box itself?

  I'm setting up a second system for the family but have quite a bit 
of 'extra' HD space on my own box.  Would like to use some of my 
space to store programs for the second box.

Gerald V. Livingston II

'69 Bug -- AirBall


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URGENT e2fsprogs problem

[G. Kapetanios]

I decided to upgrade to e2fsprogs 1.10-17. Mistake..
It wants an newer version of dump which requires libe2p2. I can't find
this
package anywhere. Can anyone help ??
George 

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Re: A pleasant cron surprise

[Torsten Hilbrich]

On: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:58:40 -0500 Igor S Livshits writes:
> 
> Hello,
> Well, I left my hamm system half set up when other things distracted
> me. I had cron running, but no functional MTA fully installed.
> 
> I was thus plesantly surprised that cron actually managed to get an
> email message to me once it executed a scheduled command for
> me. Question is: Does cron know how to deal with MX records or did
> it just invoke my half-installed sendmail 8.9 and it found a backup
> mail server for my box?

Chances are good that even a half-installed sendmail with just a
rudimentary sendmail.cf is able to deliver local mail.

BTW: cron seems to invoke /usr/sbin/sendmail directly as MTA.

Torsten

PS: I had a similiar problem some times ago.  I updated inn from 1.5.1
to 1.7.2 (while upgrading from bo to hamm) and unfortunately, my
system started fetching news while the inn was still unconfigured.
All of the news were gone, however, I had the old version of my
sucknewsrc laying around for later retrieval.

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Re: Truning off shadowed password file

[G. Kapetanios]

Use shadowconfig off | on 


On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Ramon Nieva wrote:

> Ok, I installed my system (bo) with shadowed.
> Just for testing purpose, I want to get rid of them, how do I do this?
> 
> 
> Ramon
> 
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Re: Compiling with gcc

[jdassen]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 12:44:07AM -0700, Mark Yobb wrote:
> When I went to compile (gcc prog.C) I got the error message:
  ^^^

Please use the appropriate compiler driver (for bo it doesn't really matter,
for hamm it matters a lot). In the case of C++, that's `g++'. (For hamm,
`g++' comes in a package of its own, appropriately called `g++'; that
package has proper dependencies to ensure you'll install the C++ libraries
too)

> The compiler is not finding the library files.

The `g++' compiler driver will add the necessary directories to the include
path and will link your program with the standard C++ library.

> Also note that I did this as the root.

There is no reason to compile as root. In general, do not use the root
account for stuff you can do as a regular user (reading mail, news,
compiling packages, etc.).

HTH,
Ray
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Truning off shadowed password file

[Ramon Nieva]

Ok, I installed my system (bo) with shadowed.
Just for testing purpose, I want to get rid of them, how do I do this?


Ramon


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Re: smail set-up

[Obi]

Hi,

I'm using smail on a laptop, and I came from sendmail :-). I'm using hamm.

> 1. change the name of any outgoing mail to another username (i.e. 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

I used the visible_name option in config. Actually you can set it up throught
the configuration script (smailconfig): after the first question (which I
answered 1 -- Internet site), it asks you for the visible name. You should
them put telnetconnect.com.

> 2. be able to send mail from my laptop to accounts on the main 
> telconnect.com server.

That's the smarthost. Smailconfig will ask you that later on ...

> As it stands now, every message goes out as root and I can't send mail to 
> anyone in my office - it keeps telling me the user does not exist (by 
> looking at my own /etc/passwd file).

I got rid of my domain name from the hostnamed in the config file
(/etc/smail/config) because my machine was trying to deliver locally all the
mail. After that everythign worked ok.

> Any ideas?

Hope this helps,
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Re: xv

[Shaleh]

XView is a development toolkit for X windows (olvwm uses it I think). 
xv is a non-free package.  It is not on your CD.  You must get it from a
debian ftp site.  xv is shareware, we can/will not give it out on CD. 
It is in non-free/graphics as "xv".


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Need artistic type to create a Debian ad for LJ (fwd)

[James A . Treacy]

If you want to help Debian, but don't feel comfortable
maintaining a package, this is your chance.

In making enquiries to LJ about the cost of advertising,
Debian was given an offer of 2 one-half page ads if
we do some work on some Linux docs that the LJ is
maintaining. This is an opportunity we shouldn't
let pass - advertising is expensive and a good ad
could really help get us the recognition we deserve.

We are looking for a person, or a group of people,
who are willing to work on the ad. If you can help with
this in any way, please write to me, or preferably, subscribe
to debian-publicity and tell us what you can do.

If you have some time to do some work on the documentation
(it should be a one shot deal), contact Igor Grobman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to help out.

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Compiling with gcc

[Mark Yobb]

Hello.  I am not sure what is wrong so I will just tell what happened.
I wrote a litte C++ with the following preprocessor directive at the top of
the file:

#include 

When I went to compile (gcc prog.C) I got the error message:

prog.C:1:iostream:No such file or directory.

I then tried  and I then tried including the entire path.  The
compiler is not finding the library files.  Also note that I did this as the
root.  What should I be looking for?  I assume I just have not set it up
right?  I don't know where to start?



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xv

[Mark Yobb]

Hi everybody.  I am quite new to this and I think that my previous
exposure to UNIX might to confusing me on this one?

I always knew xv or xview as a graphics viewing package with alot of
cool options.  In my current bo 1.3.1 installation xview is included but
apparently I just have tools for development or something?  Either it is
something different or I am missing components.  

1.  Is xv what I think it is?

2.  Is it part of the xview package I got with my bo CD?  Do I need other
components?

3.  What is it's connect to olvwm?

4.  If it is what I think it is how do I get it?  I like Imagemagic but xv
has sentimental mean (I like the fish).


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Re: XF86Setup/Mouse Device

[Oliver Elphick]

Dennis Dixon wrote:...
  >1) I have succesfully installed XFree86 and am now attempting to run the
  >XF86Setup routine. In trying to get the mouse to work it appears to me all I
  >should have to do is select one of the 'devices'  and hit 'apply'. However,
  >I tried all possible device options and none got a response from the mouse.
  >(The mouse says Microsoft right on it, so I assume 'Microsoft' is the
  >correct protocol.  I tried different protocols with the 'inbortbm' device
  >and still got nothing.)

Someone else suggested it might be a PS/2 mouse.  If so, its connector
will be a little circular plug.  The correct devicename for this is 
/dev/psaux.
  >
  >The real problem is I don't understand how 'devices' work.  I found a
  >'MAKEDEV' command, but I'm not sure what this does. Is there a command to
  >query the contents of '/dev/smouse', etc.?  Plus, if I run a command like
  >'MAKEDEV' it would obviously create a new file in '/dev', but how would it
  >know to hook up to the mouse port on the machine?

Devices look like files but are actually pointers to device drivers in the
kernel (the operating system program).  For example:

  $ ls -l /dev/{psaux,hda}*
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   0 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   1 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda1
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   2 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda2
  
  crw---   1 root sys   10,   1 Jun 16 01:44 /dev/psaux

The first character of the modes (b or c) shows whether it is a block-
or character-device.  (Block devices, such as disks, expect to send and
receive data in blocks rather than one character at a time.) The pair of
numbers separated by a comma are the major and minor device numbers.
The major number tells the kernel which device driver is wanted (3 = IDE
hard disk, 10 = PS/2) and the minor number is an entry point in the
device driver.  The full list of device major and minor numbers is in the
documentation of the kernel-doc- package and is to be 
found at /usr/doc/kernel-doc-/Documentation/devices.txt.gz.
Unix treats devices as if they were files, so you can read and write them
(subject to permissions - you don't want arbitrary writes to your hard
disk!).

  >
  >
  >2) I have several other miscellaneous questions, although not necessary,
  >would make my life a lot easier.  When I go to '/var/log/messages' ( or any
  >log file for that matter) I get a huge file.  Does this file clear
  >automatically somehow eventually or does it just keep growing forever? There
  >must be a command to clear log files.

If you leave your machine running all the time, your log files will get
purged by programs run in the background by cron.  If you turn it off,
they can't run, so you need to install the anacron package, which should
catch up with necessary maintenance when you turn your machine on.
  >
  >3) The 'find','locate', and 'dpkg -search' commands would be great if I
  >could get them to work.  Logged in as 'root' if I type 'find  '
  >from any directory it should find that file anywhere in the system?
  >However, it doesn't do this for me.  Am I doing something wrong?

The syntax for find is

 find / -name 

find has many options.  Run `man find' and read carefully!

dpkg:
  $ dpkg -S devices.txt
  kernel-doc-2.0.32: /usr/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.32/Documentation/devices.txt.gz
  ...

locate:
  $ locate devices.txt
  /usr/doc/gs-aladdin/devices.txt.gz
  ...

  >
  >4) The last questions is a repeat from a previous post.  I am trying to make
  >it so a 'user' can run 'pon'.  ('pon' currently runs fine when logged in as
  >'root')
  >A response from Martin Bialasinski suggested that I use the following comman
  >d:
  >
  >adduser  theuser dialout
  >
  >Although this command ran fine and added 'theuser' to the dialout group,
  >when logged in as theuser I still couldn't use the 'pon' command.

What happens when the user tries to run it?

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Re: Parallel port scanner

[Raymond A. Ingles]

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

> I've just bought a Primax Colorado D600 scanner, and I'd like to use it
> under Linux. However I don't know where to find a software for it. It is
> a TWAIN compatible scanner, and it is connected to the parallel port (so
> no SCSI stuff). Could anybody tell me where can I find any software
> which may allow me to use it under Debian?
> 
> Thank you many times in forward.

 SANE's home page is at: http://www.mostang.com/sane/. This is a project
that supports scanners for a wide variety of operating systems, including
Linux, *BSD, OS/2, Solaris, IRIX, etc.

 I'm afraid that parallel-port scanners are not very well supported yet.
Still, you can look and ask around. It might be possible to get the
specification and write the code to allow SANE to use it, if it's not
currently supported.

 Unfortunately, TWAIN is a software-only specification, and in fact is
pretty much Windows-only. As far as Linux is concerned, TWAIN is useless.
However, one of the nice things about SANE is that it's not tied to an
operating system, and in fact allows you to scan from a computer on a
network.

 There is work underway that might allow you to put the scanner on a
Windows machine, and use it as a "scan server" from Linux. Not ideal, but
better than nothing.

 Sincerely,

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Netscape does not know the right time

[Shaleh]

I am using the latest Communicator package from hamm along with the
latest Communicator from NS.  It shows my BIOS time (set to Greenwich),
rather than the correct time here.  Any suggestions??


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Re: Top doesnt work on a terminal

[Michael Beattie]

On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Michael Stone wrote:

> Quoting Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I am trying to use top on an old wyse terminal, but it will not display
> > the processes below the column header. Also, when quitting, the prompt
> > appears in the middle of the system info at the top of the screen, and
> > when using commands such as "u", the prompt appears with $xx sequences.
> > the xx being a number.
> 
> Try "top | cat". That works for win95 telnet (I've seen the same problem
> there), I have no idea why.

Hmmm that works.. thanks!  I wonder why it does that ??


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Re: wav to mp3

[Michael Beattie]

On 15 Jun 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:
> 
[snip]
> > the package has disappeared, along with l3enc off of the web... But its
> > successor, mp3enc, is available at the home page... cant remember where...
> > put "+mp3enc +download +linux" into altavista and you should find it. 
> 
> mp3enc has a 30 sec limit. Seems the shareware approach didn`t work.
> 
> :-(
> 
> The official site has win95 Software for $50, the linux software costs
> $200!
> 
> :-(((
> 
> (Where the other way round would yield more money (today)!)


Hmm... I never actually used it for that long... I only did a test to
see if it worked. Oh well.

I may have missed the boat.. but it was in bo was it not? I remember it
being on my CD... I will ask the current holder to check. :)


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hostname problem (?)

[Michael Roark]

I posted earlier today about configuring smail . . . well, I gave up and 
went back to my original problem with sendmail. As it turns out, it may 
not be sendmail at fault. In my mail.log file, I get the following 
message whenever I try to send mail to my main domain or receive mail 
from there with fetchmail:

The following addresses have permanent fatal errors --


Transcript of session follows --
550  . . . Host unknown (Name server: none: host not found)

It doesn't matter whether I am using my ethernet connection or dialing up 
with ppp. I get the same thing. Also I get a long pause during startup 
when trying to initiate sendmail. I get the following in mail.err:

My unqualified host name (debia) unknow; sleeping for retry
unable to qualify my own domain name (debian) -- using short name

That is where things stand. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Michael


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Re: XF86Setup/Mouse Device

[Jimmer ENDRES]

Dennis Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1) I have succesfully installed XFree86 and am now attempting to run the
> XF86Setup routine. In trying to get the mouse to work it appears to me all I
> should have to do is select one of the 'devices'  and hit 'apply'. However,
> I tried all possible device options and none got a response from the mouse.
> (The mouse says Microsoft right on it, so I assume 'Microsoft' is the
> correct protocol.  I tried different protocols with the 'inbortbm' device
> and still got nothing.)

I'm a newbie too but I just solved this problem.

My mouse also is the ``Microsoft'' brand but is a ``PS/2'' type
mouse; check your mouse/motherboard manuals.  Also, when I
selected the correct configuration (see following excerpt from my
/etc/X11/XConfig) XF86Setup STILL didn't show any response from
the mouse.  My guess is that poking around with all the wrong
settings screwed things up. . . ?

# **
# Pointer section
# **

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"PS/2"
Device  "/dev/psmouse"

Hope this helps.
Jimmer.

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Re: Apple II Emulator

[Rev. Joseph Carter]

On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 08:22:33PM -0400, Carlos Figueroa wrote:
> Do you have a Apple IIgs emulator?  E-Mailme at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

There is one, xgs.  At this time, there is not a .deb of it and you need a
ROM image for it.  It will take 00, 01, and 03 ROMs which can be found
places you would find other images or you can copy your own if you know how.

Note that in order to legally use a ROM image, you have to own the ROM in
question.


This site has a link to the DOS and OS/2 versions, but not to the Linux
version.  The official site's host is down at the moment, try it later on.
http://classicgaming.com/xgsdos/


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Xfree86 installation a.out/ELF

[Psychotron]

Hi All,

Well, I decided to use Linux two months ago and as you may see, I'm 
quite
still a layman on the subject. Anyway, I'm trying to find anyone who could
help me installing and get running the Xfree86.
I downloaded the other day the files that would install xfree86 version
3.32 and folowing the instructions, I tried to run the preinstalation
script but it had returned the following error message:


>sh /var/tmp/preinst.sh
/var/tmp/preinst.sh: file: command not found

You appear to have an a.out system.
a.out binaries are not available for
this release

Ok, after some research, I found out that I needed another kind of
binaries, ELF, but I also found out that my Debian version (1.3) was
supposed to support those binaries. My question is, what do I need to get
ELF's running on my computer? Were I supposed to install any especial
packets during installation?
Anyone have the answers? Or anyone know were I could find it? or any 
other
easier way of installing Xfree?? Everything that I want is to get that
thing runnig, it doesn't matter how :)
Thanks for any support!!!


Psy



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Re: ipfwadm

[Paul Miller]

Load the ip_masq_* modules...  That fixed my problem w/ sending DCC (I
could receive, which is kinda odd).

Look in /lib/modules/2.0.34/ipv4 for all the possible modules (assuming
you compiled them) and run:

insmod ip_masq_irc
etc.

-Paul

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Ben Szyc wrote:

> i'm running Debian 1.3. i have 2 Windowz95 machines connecting to my
> Debian
> box across a LAN then out on the net using ipfwadm. IRC (except for DCC
> chat & send) and web browsing works ok but usenet ,cuseeme, ICQ, real
> audio
> don't want to function at all. I've also got Squid running as a proxy
> server. It's got me stuffed!
> Any ideas would be much appreciated.
> thanx in advance
> 
> To get started i type ipfwadm -F -a acc -m -b -S192.168.0.0/24
> 
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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

[Ed Cogburn]

Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 08:39:41PM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > I have been running Linux for some two years and Debian for more than one,
> > > and certainly haven't required MC yet. Even standard would be 
> > > inappropriate
> > > I think -- standard is for things which are standard on a Unix system,
> > > and should probably be as strict as possible to keep the size down.
> > > Optional remains appropriate.
> >
> >   I don't want to turn this into a favorite-file-manager-flame-thread, 
> > but
> > I'd like to point out that Debian has agreed to go with the GNOME project as
> > a 'standard' desktop GUI (instead of KDE), and guess what, MC is the
> > 'standard' file-manager of the GNOME desktop.  Second, there are things that
> > are 'standard' in Debian that aren't 'standard' everywhere else (like the
> > slang lib).  My statement was simply meant as a strong endorsement of MC,
> > nothing more.  It wasn't meant to start an argument over what
> > 'standard'/'required'/'recommended' should mean.
> 
> But `standard' has two different meanings here. X is our standard windowing
> system, but the X packages are priority: optional. Priority: standard implies
> that it is a standard Unix feature. slang is standard because other packages
> which are standard dependent on it -- like the base system in hamm. A package
> can only depend on packages with higher priority than itself.
> 
> Just because a particular tool is Debian's standard does not mean that
> it is priority `standard', or even that it is standard. It's not necessarily
> standard to have an interactive file manager installed, for example.
> 
> Hamish
> --


Now you are getting far more technical than I ever meant.  When I said 
"it
ought to be required software; its that good", I wasn't thinking in terms of
Debian rules/priorities/procedures, I was speaking in a very generic sense. 
You jumped on it as some kind of technical Debian error of word usage.  I
don't think there's really anything here to debate.  People who like
interactive file managers are probably already using MC, and people who
don't like interactive non-command-line utilities have already tried MC and
stopped using it.


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Re: Newbie needs help connecting to isp

[Ed Cogburn]

Stephanie Bloodworth wrote:
> 
> I have recently installed the base distribution of hamm and ran
> pppconfig. Now when I run pon the modem dosn't dial. Two processes are
> created pppd and chat but I am not connected to my isp any help as to the
> cause of this problem would be appretiated.
> 


Check to file permissions and ownership of /etc/chatscript,
/etc/chatscript/provider, /etc/ppp/peers/provider.  This happend to me; if
pppd runs but nothing happens then the file permissions of the
/etc/chatscripts dir may be wrong.

10:17pm /home/ed\> d /etc
drwxr-x---   2 root dip  1024 Jun 13 16:58 chatscripts

10:17pm /home/ed\> d /etc/chatscripts/
-rw-r-   1 root dip   478 Jun 13 18:56 provider

10:18pm /home/ed\> d /etc/ppp/peers/  
-rw-r-   1 root dip   909 Jun  9 17:54 provider


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ipfwadm

[Ben Szyc]

i'm running Debian 1.3. i have 2 Windowz95 machines connecting to my
Debian
box across a LAN then out on the net using ipfwadm. IRC (except for DCC
chat & send) and web browsing works ok but usenet ,cuseeme, ICQ, real
audio
don't want to function at all. I've also got Squid running as a proxy
server. It's got me stuffed!
Any ideas would be much appreciated.
thanx in advance

To get started i type ipfwadm -F -a acc -m -b -S192.168.0.0/24


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Re: wav to mp3

[tko]

Jens Ritter writes:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 10:31:59AM +0200, Jens Ritter wrote:
> > > > "Timothy C. Phan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I'd like to know if there is a tool that would convert wav file
> > > > >   to mp3 file!
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > package l3enc (non-free shareware trial version).
> > > 
> > > This seems to have dissapeared from both bo and slink for some reason.  
> > > The
> > > package name was l3, anyone know anything about this?
> > 
> > the package has disappeared, along with l3enc off of the web... But its
> > successor, mp3enc, is available at the home page... cant remember where...
> > put "+mp3enc +download +linux" into altavista and you should find it. 
> 
> mp3enc has a 30 sec limit. Seems the shareware approach didn`t work.
> 
> :-(
> 
> The official site has win95 Software for $50, the linux software costs
> $200!
> 
> :-(((
> 
> (Where the other way round would yield more money (today)!)
> 
> Jens
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Take a look at www.8hz.com ; the linux version of their mp3 encoder is free.

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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

[Brandon Mitchell]

On 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:

> > Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the
> > /etc/init.d/lpd restart section.
> 
> Why would this make a difference?  Wouldn't this signify a race
> condition?  Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be
> too little a wait for whatever needs to be done?

Yes, it is a race condition.  My guess is that lpr doesn't die before the
next lpr tries to start up.  The second lpr sees the first and fails to
start, and then the first finally dies.  There are much better solutions
than a 2 second wait, and it will probably fail on a heavily-loaded
system.  However, it's enough to get the bug out of the release critical
list, and to take a deap breath before working on the correct solution.

OK?
Brandon

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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

[John Goerzen]

Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> > privately...)
> > 
> > My system information:
> > 
> > lpr 5.9-26
> 
> Fixed:
> ii  lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
> 
> Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the
> /etc/init.d/lpd restart section.

Why would this make a difference?  Wouldn't this signify a race
condition?  Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be
too little a wait for whatever needs to be done?

> 
> HTH,
> Brandon
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