Re: ARGH! "Frozen" is back....

[Mike Werner]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 03:04:05PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> When the last Debian release was coming up, I had deselect downloading from
> stable, frozen, and unstable. Then, some time ago, 'frozen' went away. This
> caused dselect to complain a lot when updating package lists. So, I just
> finished taking the 'frozen' parts out of all of my
> /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/vars files on all of my servers when. boom,
> 'frozen' is back.
> 
> So here's a thought: After each release, can we just keep 'frozen' pointed
> to the dist (ie, 'woody', 'potato', 'slink', etc.), even though 'stable' is
> also now pointing to it, too?

Why not just point apt at the *name* of the release that you want?

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free

This way you don't have to worry about it.
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Re: Mail & PGP

[dan]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 01:09:23PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote:
>  * because you can't (nicely) edit the headers while you are editing the
>message you are forced to do it at the "pre-send" screen.  this is okay
>(though a little strange for a user used to pine/modern gui
>mailers) however if you have a long To: or Cc: list it goes off the side
END OF QUOTE

Hmmm, I don't think that's true, AFAIK you can configure mutt to edit
the header in the message body however you want. See its man files.

Re: Looking for some Linux software.

[aphro]

use samba, see samba.org for the docs, get the latest CVS release for
domain support for nt machines too.  i find it better then the production
release(2.0x)

nate

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:

aigari >It seems to me that this msg didn't get it to the list first time, so
aigari >I'm resending it.
aigari >
aigari >Hi all!
aigari >
aigari >I'm asked to make an authorisation server for a network of Win9x
aigari >machines. I want Windozed PC to contact Linux PC at Windows login
aigari >and logout. I was said it can be done by netlogon to WinNT domain.
aigari >But I want to put Debian on that server.
aigari >Also I need to block some Inet traffic and log the rest of it.
aigari >Also a SLIP/PPP server providing callback feature whould do some help.
aigari >Please cc to me when replying.
aigari >
aigari >Thanks alot.
aigari >
aigari >Aigarius.
aigari >
aigari >
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Re: package compilation madness

[Brad]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:04:27AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote:
>
> Actually, it's not really about "newer", it's about having a
> version number that sorts later, so, one possibility is to use a
> special version number that will always sort later.  This is the trick
> suggested for custom kernels.  Thus, you could make bzip 0.9.5d-my2 or
> even my-0.9.5d-2.  The former would stick until a new upstream
> release, the former would stick basically forever (unless the debian
> maintainer increases the "epoch", which we won't get into now).

i tend to use version numbers like "1.2.2-1.0001". And i watch for when
dselect tells me it wants to upgrade the package.

All that's needed to change the version number is to add a properly
formatted entry to the debian/changelog file. ("properly formatted"
means formatted like all the rest ;)

> This doesn't just happen with pentium-optimized packages.  It happens
> any time you make a local custom version of a package. 

If you'd create a local mirror of just your packages, and put that first
in your apt sources.list, i believe that should prefer your version over
Debian's when they have the same version number.


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ARGH! "Frozen" is back....

[Joe Emenaker]

When the last Debian release was coming up, I had deselect downloading from
stable, frozen, and unstable. Then, some time ago, 'frozen' went away. This
caused dselect to complain a lot when updating package lists. So, I just
finished taking the 'frozen' parts out of all of my
/var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/vars files on all of my servers when. boom,
'frozen' is back.

So here's a thought: After each release, can we just keep 'frozen' pointed
to the dist (ie, 'woody', 'potato', 'slink', etc.), even though 'stable' is
also now pointing to it, too?

- Joe

Re: pppd/modem frustration.

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 10:33:45PM +0100, Hans wrote:
> I've posted a question about this earlier this week, but nobody responded.
> Is it that much out of the ordinary that no-one can give me some hints or
> tips?
> 
> - when connecting to my ISP the connection comes up with the correct flow
> rate 11500
> - after about 8 kb of upstreaming data communication stops
> - soon after pppd dies suddenly
> 
> I thought is might be a flow control problem, so I set the init string of
> my modem to ATZ&K3, but this didn't help a bit. I don't have another
> machine to test the pcmcia modem, but when I hook an external to my Acer
> TM512 dialup works fabulous. Modem has a hardware failure or still pppd?
> Come on guys, Linux ain't much fun without an internet connection, so help
> me out on this one, will ya?
> 

Laptop = more expensive = less common = less experts.

A couple of things I would suggest are :

1. See if you can get a diagnostic tool from your manufacturer's web
   site.  This should be able to check the lower level functioning of
   the card.

2. Standard reply - have you checked /var/log/messages to see if there
   is and explanation for the death of the PPP connection ?  Post the
   extracts if you're note sure how to decipher.

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IMAP doesn't really *delete* messages when they're moved....

[Joe Emenaker]

I'm using the regular imap daemon. When I move files from my inbox to
another folder with Outlook Express, the messages seem to get marked as
deleted. However, when I click "purge", they don't delete. I have to
explicitly UNdelete them and then delete them again before they actually
purge from my inbox.

1 - Does anybody know if this is a "feature" of the imap daemon or if it's
something wrong with how Outlook Express is talking to it?
2 - Are there any solutions (different imap server or changing a parameter
in Outlook Express)?

- Joe

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Re: Install problem

[Clyde Wilson]

I think your tgz files need to be on a linux partition.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Owens, Jerry wrote:

>   I am trying to install Debian GNU/Linux version 2.1 on a
> Compaq Deskpro PII 233. I have downloaded all of the required files from
> the ftp site and I am using a boot disk to install Debian. The base file
> (base2_1.tgz) is on the dos partition. The install goes fine until it
> tries to unzip the base file. Then I get an error stating that "There
> was a problem extracting the Base System from
> /instmnt/linux/debian/base2_1.tgz. I have downloaded this several times
> from different sites to make sure I didn't get a bad copy with no luck.
> I have also tried to install the base from floppy disks and I get the
> same results. Any ideas on what could be causing this.
> 
>   Thanks in advance,
>   Jerry
> 
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Re: Eterm keys

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

let's take a look at keybinding and keyboard output from termial

You could check yours with ^V-keystroke (pressing ctrl-v then press the key)

in linux-console

H = ^[[1~, E = ^[[4~, BS = ^?, del = ^[[3~

for X, debian has a policy that BS should produce ^? and del ^[[3~ so that
it's compatible with linux-console

xterm

H = ^[OH, E = ^[OF

Eterm

H = ^[[1~, E = ^[[4~

To bind key to shell, bash uses inputrc, zsh uses bindkey, tcsh uses bindkey.

Check these man pages for more info.


Chanop

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GE d? s+: a- C++ UL++ P+ L+++ E- W++ N++ o-- K- w---
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Looking for some Linux software.

[Aigars Mahinovs]

It seems to me that this msg didn't get it to the list first time, so
I'm resending it.

Hi all!

I'm asked to make an authorisation server for a network of Win9x
machines. I want Windozed PC to contact Linux PC at Windows login
and logout. I was said it can be done by netlogon to WinNT domain.
But I want to put Debian on that server.
Also I need to block some Inet traffic and log the rest of it.
Also a SLIP/PPP server providing callback feature whould do some help.
Please cc to me when replying.

Thanks alot.

Aigarius.

Re: Mail & PGP

[Adam Shand]

> ("Personally" noted, but for the benefit of other readers:)

i knew i was gonna catch it for that :-)

> I actually find that, for a committed vim user like me, and indeed

first thing, i use vim for admin work (:%s/whatever/something/g rocks
...), but for for typing email i finding annoying.  when i use pico with
mutt i get stuck with these two things:

 * ^J doesn't work, this is a feature i use *all* the time and i just can't
   stand not having it.  i am aware that there is an equivelant feature in
   vim.

 * because you can't (nicely) edit the headers while you are editing the
   message you are forced to do it at the "pre-send" screen.  this is okay
   (though a little strange for a user used to pine/modern gui
   mailers) however if you have a long To: or Cc: list it goes off the side
   of the screen and you can't see all the recipients of the message without
   editing that field and then scrolling through it.  when you set 'set
   edit_headers' on you can edit them in the message, but i found that
   really weird things happened with long recipent lists (like mutt would
   insert a carriage return in the middle of the Cc: header, and since
   that's how smtp delimits the headers of a message it means that you end
   up with all the headers below that point in the message body.  ugly.

> probably for anyone who doesn't like pico, mutt's editor integration is
> actually much *better* than pine's. Any time I tried to get pine to use
> vi as its editor I found that I either lost features or had to run
> everything through pico anyway, simply because the fact that pine's
> designed with its own editor means that it's not designed for hooking
> cleanly into other editors. Maybe I wasn't setting it up correctly, I
> don't know, but it never seemed worth the hassle to me.

i use vim in pine all the time and it works just great.  "alt + _" and
you're in vim, do whatever reformatting you need and carry on.

> None of this really applies if you like pico, of course, but I thought
> I'd throw in my take on the perennial mailer debate. :)

i do like pico (and actually i'm talking to the author of nano hoping that i
can convince him to make nano suceed in the places where pico fails), i also
like vim but for different tasks.  if i want to type i want pico, if i want
to program or massage data, i want vim.  i would love to change to mutt
(pine is slow and pigish when you have large folders, it's not threaded, not
very configurable and it's pgp/gpg support sucks in comparison).

adam.

Re: ssh and stuff

[Adam Shand]

> as your first command.  Logins will now be invisible and automatic, like
> rsh, so scripts ought to work.  

if it's for scripting you are typically better to use a ~/.shosts file on
the remote host instead of relying on the ssh-agent stuff.  you don't always
have the option of running 'eval `ssh-agent`' and 'ssh-add' before a script
runs from cron etc.

> There is an X version of the agent, too,
> but I've never gotten it working for me.

the trick is to make sure the debian package ssh-askpass as installed and
then to get the x version to pop up you need to run:

# /usr/bin/ssh-add < /dev/null

the way i setup passwordless ssh for my laptop so it works for all X
sessions is like this:

(before i start x)

# eval `ssh-agent`; startx & clear; logout  
  (this only works if you use bash as your shell)

and then in my ~/.xinitrc file i have this line:

/usr/bin/ssh-add < /dev/null &

as x starts up you get a window pop up asking for your ssh rsa
password.  because you ran ssh-agent before starting x the needed
environment variables are available to all subshells.

if you want to remove the ability to passwordless ssh you can do so by
running 'ssh-add -D' in any xterm.

i hope that helps,

adam.

Re: PHP3 and MySQL

[Alisdair McDiarmid]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 08:07:11AM +1030, John Pearson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 07:02:56PM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote
> > I'm trying to get PHP3 and MySQL to play nice, but they refuse. I want
> > to load the mysql.so extension, so in the /etc/php3/apache/php3.ini I
> > put `extension = mysql.so' and checked that extension_dir was correct.
> > 
> > This didn't work: php3 scripts without dl('mysql.so') in them fail to
> > work:
> > 
> > Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function mysql_connect()
> > in /home/alisdair/public_html/test.php3 on line 4
> > 
> > Why isn't it working? Do I have to recompile PHP3 with MySQL support
> > builtin?
> 
> /etc/php3/apache/php3.ini is used by the Apache PHP3 module; if you
> are running PHP3 as a stand-alone interpreter you should make the
> same
> changes to /etc/php3/cgi/php3.ini

No, I am using the Apache PHP3 module, but just to be safe I tried
that - no difference.

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Re: suExec annoyances

[Adam Shand]

> Can anyone explain to me the restriction on where I can place cgi
> scripts if suExec is being used with apache? As best as I can
> understand, all cgi scripts must be contained under the *global*
> DocumentRoot in order for suExec to run them. This means that when I
> have a setup like

cgi's go in exactly the same place they would go if you weren't running
suexec.

> DocumentRoot /var/www
> 
> 
>   ServerName my.virtualhost.com
>   DocumentRoot /usr/local/share/virtualhost
>   ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/share/virtualhost/cgi-bin/
>   User vhostusr
>   Group vhostgrp
> 
> 
> Then requests to any cgi script within
> http://my.virtualhost.com/cgi-bin/ will fail with an internal server
> error, claiming that the command is "not in the docroot".

given the above setup your cgi's should go into
/usr/local/share/virtualhost/cgi-bin/.  one thing that you need to change is
that suexec takes care of the 'scriptalias' part.  you don't need that.  if
you want a url like /cgi-bin/ to work then you can use the 'alias' directive
the the 'scriptalias' is at least unnecessary and may break things.

> Why do I have to completely rearrange my directory structure just to get
> suExec to work? All cgi scripts in user home directories fail under this
> setup because /home/username is not under /var/www (and any page
> accessed using ~username automatically triggers suExec).

in our setup /web/docs is the main doc root and ~user/www is the document
root for all other virtual domains.  suexec works in this setup just fine.

> The obvious workaround is to set DocumentRoot to /, but I can't think of
> a more crazily insecure option.

that is *NOT* a good idea.

> Does anyone have any suggestions? It seems to me that suExec should be
> seeing whether the command is in the documentroot *for this virtual
> host*... and I don't understand why it isn't doing that.

the way you think it should work *is* the way it works, something else is
going wrong.

adam.

Re: PHP3 and MySQL

[John Pearson]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 07:02:56PM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote
> I'm trying to get PHP3 and MySQL to play nice, but they refuse. I want
> to load the mysql.so extension, so in the /etc/php3/apache/php3.ini I
> put `extension = mysql.so' and checked that extension_dir was correct.
> 
> This didn't work: php3 scripts without dl('mysql.so') in them fail to
> work:
> 
> Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function mysql_connect()
> in /home/alisdair/public_html/test.php3 on line 4
> 
> Why isn't it working? Do I have to recompile PHP3 with MySQL support
> builtin?

/etc/php3/apache/php3.ini is used by the Apache PHP3 module; if you 
are running PHP3 as a stand-alone interpreter you should make the same
changes to /etc/php3/cgi/php3.ini


HTH,


John P.
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pppd/modem frustration.

[Hans]

I've posted a question about this earlier this week, but nobody responded.
Is it that much out of the ordinary that no-one can give me some hints or
tips?

- when connecting to my ISP the connection comes up with the correct flow
rate 11500
- after about 8 kb of upstreaming data communication stops
- soon after pppd dies suddenly

I thought is might be a flow control problem, so I set the init string of
my modem to ATZ&K3, but this didn't help a bit. I don't have another
machine to test the pcmcia modem, but when I hook an external to my Acer
TM512 dialup works fabulous. Modem has a hardware failure or still pppd?
Come on guys, Linux ain't much fun without an internet connection, so help
me out on this one, will ya?

--Hans

P.S.

cardctl ident:

Socket 0:
  product info: "CIRRUS LOGIC 56K  MODEM", "CL-MD56XX", "5.41"
  manfid: 0x014e, 0x0088
  function: 2 (serial)
Socket 1:
  no product info available



cardctl config:

Socket 0:
  Vcc 5.0V  Vpp1 0.0V  Vpp2 0.0V
  interface type is "memory and I/O"
  irq 3 [exclusive] [level]
  Speaker output is enabled
  function 0:
config base 0x0100
  option 0x61 status 0x08 ext 0x00
io 0x02f8-0x02ff [8bit]
Socket 1:
  not configured



ATI query

ATI: 1.0
ATI 1: CD04.08 - 602H PCMCIA (V.90) NO A/D - SPKR: 04 - DSP PATCH: 097.00
ATI 2: ROM TEST OK
ATI 3: CL-MD56xx
ATI 4:
ATI 5: Present, 32K DSP RAM.000 Host I/F: P. Mem. : 016 Bit 003 W.S.  D.
Mem  : 008 Bit 001 W.S.  DSP code location = INT ROM
ATI 6: USA 1
ATI 7: CIRRUS LOGIC, INC.  MODEM ENGINEERING  FIRMWARE DEPARTMENT

Re: X config/XDM

[paul]

Timothy said,
> Hi,
> 
>   I'd like to know what is the proper and easy way for a
>   not so X-experience guy to configure the X windows. Specifically
>   the configuration in the XF86Config, modeline, options, etc.
>   Secondly, how to setup the desktop for user if the X-window
>   was configured properly?
> 
Hi there,
Have you read the XFree86-HowTo?  It's quite informative.  If anything I 
suggest here doesn't make sense, then refer to that document, or to the 
documentation for your version of XFree86.  You can find this at 
http://www.xfree86.org

First, you need some info about your hardware.  Specifically:
1) What kind of mouse do you have? How many buttons does it have? Does 
it connect to the serial port, the PS/2 port, or a bus card? Which serial port 
is it attached to, if any?
2) What kind of keyboard do you have? How many keys? What encoding? (if 
you've never heard of this, and you use English, then it is probably US 
encoding).
3) What are the capabilities of your monitor? What is your monitors 
horizontal sync range? What is your monitors vertical sync range? This 
information should be in the documentation for your monitor.  Some 
manufacturers provide this on thier websites or in downloadable PDF or .ps 
files.
4) What video card are you using?  How much video memory is on the 
card? What chipset does it use?  The chipset is more important than the card's 
name!  If you have to look on the card itself, then do so.  The chip name you 
are looking for is on the large, usually square, centrally located chip.  I've 
had to temporarily remove heat sinks in order to get this information.  If you 
do this, be careful not to get the glue on the heatsink dirty, or you will be 
unable to replace it.  Sometimes a hair dryer on LOW heat will soften the glue 
enough to make heatsink removal/replacement more easy.  IT IS NOT RECCOMENDED 
THAT YOU REMOVE THE HEATSINK FROM YOUR CARD! (if I jumped off a cliff, would 
you?)

With the above information you are ready to run the xf86 config program.  Be 
carefull to read and follow all of the instructions as the program prompts you. 
Once you have generated a XF86Config file, run startx as root.  If you get a 
screen, you can run xvidtune to refine your settings until you are satisfied.  
If you your xserver fails to start, then run xf86config again and choose lower 
resolutions.

My instructions are no excuse for not having read the HowTo!  Read it.  Be sure 
that your card is supported and that you have installed the corect xserver 
package.

It's not as hard as it sounds, and it's well worth understanding.
Have fun, and report back if you have more questions.  If you run into 
difficulty, be sure to include as much information as you can with your 
question.

Glad to help!

-ptw
  

Re: Why? mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1). Aborting.

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, David Teague wrote:

dbt ># hwclock --show
dbt >mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1).  Aborting.
dbt ># hwclock --version
dbt >hwclock 2.1/util-linux 2.6
dbt >
dbt >OK? This didn't occur before the millenium, and may be similar to  
dbt >your situation. I HOPE you know a fix. If now, I will put another

there are those RTC expansion cards(typically ISA based) you may wanna try
one of those they are cheap..never tried em myself, but it may be easier
then finding a replacement MB for a machine that old! :/

nate

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Re: SOLVED: Re: Unstable kernel question

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:

rickma >So I went back into the xconfig and found that I had somehow turned off
rickma >the virtual and vga consoles. It wasn't hanging at all, the messages 
just
rickma >had nowhere to go.
rickma >
rickma >I've built and installed 2.2.14 with gcc 2.95 and all is well so far.

ive read a few reports where the development of xconfig lags behind
menuconfig/config, sometimes some serious bugs in it depending on which
kernel rev.. i always use menuconfig, even in X..

nate

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Re: package compilation madness

[Alisdair McDiarmid]

Please format your emails to 76 characters or less.

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 03:33:09PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > After doing a apt-get upgrade apt downloaded and installed the debian
> 
> Speaking of it, how would one put a package on hold

echo 'package_name hold' | dpkg --set-selections
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Re: What do these HD errors mean?

[aphro]

On 9 Feb 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

a.genk >And so forth. The drive is an IBM 13G DeskStar (?) with 2M cache. The
a.genk >kernel is 2.2.14. Thanks!

could be drive failing, id go to ibm's www site and grab their diagnostic
tools(you need win* to run the installer) it makes a bootable PCDOS disk
with their diagnostics util.  very easy to use and appears very very
powerful.  run the advanced test on it, the basic test couldnt detect any
defects on the last drive i had that died.

nate

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suExec annoyances

[Stuart Ballard]

Can anyone explain to me the restriction on where I can place cgi
scripts if suExec is being used with apache? As best as I can
understand, all cgi scripts must be contained under the *global*
DocumentRoot in order for suExec to run them. This means that when I
have a setup like

DocumentRoot /var/www


  ServerName my.virtualhost.com
  DocumentRoot /usr/local/share/virtualhost
  ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/share/virtualhost/cgi-bin/
  User vhostusr
  Group vhostgrp


Then requests to any cgi script within
http://my.virtualhost.com/cgi-bin/ will fail with an internal server
error, claiming that the command is "not in the docroot".

Why do I have to completely rearrange my directory structure just to get
suExec to work? All cgi scripts in user home directories fail under this
setup because /home/username is not under /var/www (and any page
accessed using ~username automatically triggers suExec).

The obvious workaround is to set DocumentRoot to /, but I can't think of
a more crazily insecure option.

Does anyone have any suggestions? It seems to me that suExec should be
seeing whether the command is in the documentroot *for this virtual
host*... and I don't understand why it isn't doing that.

Stuart.

Re: package compilation madness

[dan]

> After doing a apt-get upgrade apt downloaded and installed the debian

Speaking of it, how would one put a package on hold, apt-get manual doesn't 
state how to do it. I always have this problem of getting the same version 
package, as I just compiled and installed via 'apt-get upgrade' overinstalling 
from the repository :((.

Install problem

[Owens, Jerry]

I am trying to install Debian GNU/Linux version 2.1 on a
Compaq Deskpro PII 233. I have downloaded all of the required files from
the ftp site and I am using a boot disk to install Debian. The base file
(base2_1.tgz) is on the dos partition. The install goes fine until it
tries to unzip the base file. Then I get an error stating that "There
was a problem extracting the Base System from
/instmnt/linux/debian/base2_1.tgz. I have downloaded this several times
from different sites to make sure I didn't get a bad copy with no luck.
I have also tried to install the base from floppy disks and I get the
same results. Any ideas on what could be causing this.

Thanks in advance,
Jerry

Re: 2.2 kernel

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 07:20:54AM -0800, aphro wrote:
> > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Onno wrote:
> > 
> > Onno >2.2.13 and 2.2.14 are lokking good, is there anyone on this
> > Onno >list that find them unstable?
> > Onno >
> > 
> > i avoided 2.2.13 it was just a bug fixer from 2.2.12/.11  .14 has been ok
> > for me so far, although i have it installed on a BP6 that crashes on a
> > weekly basis as it is (.11 crashed on a daily basis)
> 
> 2.2.13 is evil.  it throughly and completely and repeatedly ruins
> filesystems.  
> 
> (i know not for everyone, but if you want to be scared into getting
> rid of it i'll send the 64000+ byte output of fsck as it dumped 2/3 of
> my / filesystem into /lost+found, to do `corrupted blocks' or some
> such, then compare that to the changelog for 2.2.14 fixing a `obscure
> block corruption bug'  )

Ouch.

I've always wondered how people find these problems - I've been using
2.2.x from 2.2.0 straight through 2.2.14 without a single problem on three
machines with totally different hardware.

I've even been using 2.3.x since 2.3.31, and haven't seen any of the
problems I've seen reports on.

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Re: package compilation madness

[Marcin Owsiany]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:04:27AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote:
> Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Running on the theory that it might help speed up my Pentium II system
> > (debatable, but that's beside the point), I've tried
> > recompiling a selection of packages with pentium optimisation, downloading
> > the debian source and running `./debian/rules binary`. 
> 
> > However, after having done this, every time I `apt-get upgrade`, these
> > packages get downloaded from the debian ftp server
> 
> Ok, 1) this isn't really a laptop issue, and 2) yes, you're correct.
> Apt will assume you want the most up-to-date package, and, since the
> package on the ftp server is newer than the one you built, it gets
> preferred.  The easy solution is to put the package on hold -- but
> this has the disadvantage that you *don't* get newer versions at all.
> 
> Actually, it's not really about "newer", it's about having a
> version number that sorts later, 

not really
Once I compiled 'mirror' program myself (i had to apply a patch) and
installed the resulting package. I don't remember what version it was, so
let's assume it was version 'X'.

After doing a apt-get upgrade apt downloaded and installed the debian
'mirror' package even though it had _the same_ version 'X' (it was stable
dist) _and_ it was older (I compiled my patched version _after_ the debian
package was available).


regards
Marcin

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Re: package compilation madness

[Chris Waters]

Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Running on the theory that it might help speed up my Pentium II system
> (debatable, but that's beside the point), I've tried
> recompiling a selection of packages with pentium optimisation, downloading
> the debian source and running `./debian/rules binary`. 

> However, after having done this, every time I `apt-get upgrade`, these
> packages get downloaded from the debian ftp server

Ok, 1) this isn't really a laptop issue, and 2) yes, you're correct.
Apt will assume you want the most up-to-date package, and, since the
package on the ftp server is newer than the one you built, it gets
preferred.  The easy solution is to put the package on hold -- but
this has the disadvantage that you *don't* get newer versions at all.

Actually, it's not really about "newer", it's about having a
version number that sorts later, so, one possibility is to use a
special version number that will always sort later.  This is the trick
suggested for custom kernels.  Thus, you could make bzip 0.9.5d-my2 or
even my-0.9.5d-2.  The former would stick until a new upstream
release, the former would stick basically forever (unless the debian
maintainer increases the "epoch", which we won't get into now).

This doesn't just happen with pentium-optimized packages.  It happens
any time you make a local custom version of a package. 

What I'd really like to see is a way to flag a package as "maintained
locally".  Ideally, this would make apt download the source when a new
version appears, merge it into your local CVS repository, wait for you
to resolve any conflicts, then build and install the package.  There's
a little bit of work involved for that to happen though :)

For now, putting the package on hold is probably your best bet.

cheers

(This thread really belongs on debian-user, so I've set the reply-to
field.)
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PHP3 and MySQL

[Alisdair McDiarmid]

I'm trying to get PHP3 and MySQL to play nice, but they refuse. I want
to load the mysql.so extension, so in the /etc/php3/apache/php3.ini I
put `extension = mysql.so' and checked that extension_dir was correct.

This didn't work: php3 scripts without dl('mysql.so') in them fail to
work:

Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function mysql_connect()
in /home/alisdair/public_html/test.php3 on line 4

Why isn't it working? Do I have to recompile PHP3 with MySQL support
builtin?
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Re: Why? mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1). Aborting.

[David Teague]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Foss wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 02:14:24PM -0500, David Teague wrote:
> > 
> > My system is an OLD (circa 1990)  486/66 with ISA motherboard and
> > 64K Cache, 32 MB RAM, and 4 Gig IDE disk.
> [...]
> > gandalf# /sbin/hwclock -w
> > mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1).  Aborting.
> 
> You didn't mention the version of hwclock/util-linux you were using,
> but older (slink-era) versions will fail on some CMOS because of where
> the century byte is stored.  I know I used to get exactly this error
> when I first tried to get hwclock to work on a PS/2, for example. 

Hi Kevin

The machine is quite old, still has an ISA bus, circa 1993, running
Linux 2.0. Ihe hwclock version is ... lesseee

# hwclock --show
mktime() failed unexpectedly (rc -1).  Aborting.
# hwclock --version
hwclock 2.1/util-linux 2.6

OK? This didn't occur before the millenium, and may be similar to  
your situation. I HOPE you know a fix. If now, I will put another
MB in it.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)

Joystick attached to Sound Blaster

[lorenzo . zampese]

Hi!

I have got Linux Debian 2.1 (slink) on a Pentium with a Creative Labs Sound
Blaster 16.
I compiled by myself the kernel 2.2.13 and I enabled the joystick support
and I installed
the joystick package too.
All applications don't recognize my Thrust game pad attached to the SB16's
game port.
Note : I have got the joystick's device (/dev/js0 and /dev/js1).
When I run 'jscal 0' or 'jscal 1', Linux show me this error message :

"operation not supported by the device"

What's wrong ?

Thank you.

SOLVED: Re: Unstable kernel question

[Rick Macdonald]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Rick Macdonald wrote:

> > > However, I just recompiled the 2.2.14 kernel (had to change gcc to gcc272
> > > in 3 places in the Makefile), but it still hangs when I boot it.
> > > 
> > > It hangs after:
> > > "Decompressing Linux. OK, now boot the kernel".
> 
> > Your compiler has nothing to do with it. I don't think downgrading to
> > 2.7.2 is a good move, since 2.95.2 is _MUCH_ better in many areas,
> > including optimization. 2.95.2 is not compatible with 2.0.x kernels.
> > 2.2.x are just fine.

In my old kernel boot messages I noticed that the next thing to print
should be the "Console" messages.

So I went back into the xconfig and found that I had somehow turned off
the virtual and vga consoles. It wasn't hanging at all, the messages just
had nowhere to go.

I've built and installed 2.2.14 with gcc 2.95 and all is well so far.

...RickM...

'acm' doesn't start

[lorenzo . zampese]

Hi!

On my 'slink' I can't run 'acm' (the game).
When I run 'acm', it shows me this error message :

"sound is not supported by the host 'myhost'", where 'myhost' is my linux's
box name.

I don't understand this error message, because the sound support I think is
well
configured , because all programs, (accept 'acm') can use it without
problem.
Note, I have got a Creative Sound Blaster 16.

Any idea ?

Thank you.

What do these HD errors mean?

[Arcady Genkin]

Feb  9 13:27:45 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { \
   UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=26406865, sector=25038000
Feb  9 13:27:45 tea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:04 (hdc), \
   sector 25038000 
Feb  9 13:27:50 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady \
   SeekComplete Error } 
Feb  9 13:27:50 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { \
   UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=26406852, sector=25037984 
Feb  9 13:27:50 tea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:04 (hdc), \
   sector 25037984 

And so forth. The drive is an IBM 13G DeskStar (?) with 2M cache. The
kernel is 2.2.14. Thanks!
-- 
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Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

Re: reading rtf files

[Frank Barknecht]

Blazej Sawionek hat gesagt: // Blazej Sawionek wrote:

> > Is there any utility/program in debian that assists in _reading_ rtf
> > files?  I only found a few that can generate them.
> Oh really did you? Could you please send me the names of those few...
> 

Abiword is a great "Wordpad" for Linux, and growing to be more. It can read
and write RTF, can read Word's .doc format and comes close enough for me
regarding the Layout. Try it out.
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Re: Mailbox converter? - solution found, I think

[Marc Sherman]

From: "Marc Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> In particular, suggestion 2, which is to copy the
> folder from OE5 to your linux box using IMAP, looks very
> promising - of course, it requires either that your linux
> box be a separate machine from your windows box (which is
> true in my case, but may not be for you), or that you have 
> a Windows IMAP server, and I'm not sure if there are any 
> free solutions there.
> 
> I'll try it tonight, and let you know how I make out.

Works like a charm!

- Marc

Re: Apache FrontPage Extensions

[Onno]

At 08:40 PM 2/8/00 +, Sven Gaerner wrote:
[snip]
>Yes, I know, but these extra files are also included in this tar-file.
>There are some modifications if you want users use these extensions.
>
>I think I will write these steps down and post it again in a few days.

Great, mail me a copy please.

Thanks,

Onno

problems with libc6

[Marc D Chapman]

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex,
 and more violent.  It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot
 of courage -- to move in the opposite direction"
-Albert Einstien

"If we ban whatever offends any group in our diverse society
 we will soon have no art, no culture, no humour, no satire."
-Erica Jong

   
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Re: DVD

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 08:32:13AM -0800, David Wiard wrote:
> I can get a DVD player pretty cheap.  Is there any point in doing so when
> all my machines run non-Winblows?  I don't keep up with the DVD camp, so
> could those of you that do enlighten me?
> 

Check the http://www.opendvd.org 
There is Linux software on this site, with the info how to set it up.
Probably, there should be also a list of compatible DVD players.

-- 
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http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab

Re: DVD

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, David Wiard wrote:

dave >I can get a DVD player pretty cheap.  Is there any point in doing so when
dave >all my machines run non-Winblows?  I don't keep up with the DVD camp, so
dave >could those of you that do enlighten me?

xmovie, see www.freshmeat.net claims to be able to play DVDs.  the source
is available but only the binaries have the encryption code in it.  i dont
know if it uses decss(?) or not, if its not available lemme know i can
send it to u.  available in glibc2.1 only i believe.  it crashed on both
my debian 2.1 systems but ran ok on my mandrake system(dont have a dvd to
test but the program loaded)

i emailed the author about a binary for glibc2.0 but he hasnt replied
yet(~3 weeks ago)

btw this is a software-only decoder i believe, you need a powerful(really
powerful) machine to run it on, say 450-500mhz or better.  it is
multithreaded so dual cpus really scream according to the www page. he
tested it on a dual celeron 500 i think(i run dual celeron 466)

nate

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Re: Apache FrontPage Extensions

[Sven Gaerner]

aphro wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Sven Gaerner wrote:
>
> sgaern >Hi,
> sgaern >
> sgaern >I installed Apache with this Extensions.
> sgaern >The best way would be to download the Debian Apache source and apply 
> the patch which
> sgaern >can be found on www.rtr.com or on www.microsoft.com.
> sgaern >You just have to add '--add-module=mod_frontpage' to the debian/rules.
>
> there is a lot more then just the module to get "full" frontpage support,
> quite a few scripts and utils and shit.
>
> i dont know what all it does i just followed the directions on www.rtr.com
> had to patch my 1.3.9 by hand since there was no patch for it at the time.
>
> cant wait till i can ditch frontpage.
>
> nate
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Yes, I know, but these extra files are also included in this tar-file.
There are some modifications if you want users use these extensions.

I think I will write these steps down and post it again in a few days.

Bye,

Sven

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DVD

[David Wiard]

I can get a DVD player pretty cheap.  Is there any point in doing so when
all my machines run non-Winblows?  I don't keep up with the DVD camp, so
could those of you that do enlighten me?


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Re: 2.2 kernel

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

erbens >2.2.13 is evil.  it throughly and completely and repeatedly ruins
erbens >filesystems.  
erbens >
erbens >(i know not for everyone, but if you want to be scared into getting
erbens >rid of it i'll send the 64000+ byte output of fsck as it dumped 2/3 of
erbens >my / filesystem into /lost+found, to do `corrupted blocks' or some
erbens >such, then compare that to the changelog for 2.2.14 fixing a `obscure
erbens >block corruption bug'  )

ouch..thats gotta suck..i was using devel kernels since late 2.1.40s and
ever since, haven't ever experienced such a bug although ive seen lots of
reports of them..

nate

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Re: X config/XDM

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Timothy C. Phan wrote:

tphan >Hi,
tphan >
tphan >  I'd like to know what is the proper and easy way for a
tphan >  not so X-experience guy to configure the X windows. Specifically
tphan >  the configuration in the XF86Config, modeline, options, etc.
tphan >  Secondly, how to setup the desktop for user if the X-window
tphan >  was configured properly?

try XF86Setup it does all of it for u provided your card is supported.

tphan >
tphan >  If the XDM is installed, is there a way to disable the
tphan >  XDM to come up?  I got blank screen after I installed the
tphan >  potato, X and reboot.  Because the XF86Config was not
tphan >  configured properly.

several ways.

delete the link /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm
move the link /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm
rename the link /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm to K99xdm (someone else suggested this i
think i've never tried it)
run update-rc.d remove xdm (i believe thats right, again never tested it)
remove xdm with apt/dpkg.

see the archives someone just asked this a couple days ago

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Phantom package

[Big Gaute]

I'm very happy to see that this bug has been fixed, but contrary to
what this email says this package has _not_ been installed in the ftp
archieves yet.  I have look at ftp.debian.org, and various other
places.  If this is not the canonical site, what is?

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Engalond, back in the year dot." - Spider Jerusalem, Transmetropolitan #25
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Date: 9 Feb 2000 15:03:33 -
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To: Big Gaute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bug#57362 acknowledged by developer (gnus: Latest gnus will not start)

This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report.

It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
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Their explanation is attached below.  If this explanation is
unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate
message then please contact the developer directly, or email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or me.

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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
gnus, which has been installed in the Debian FTP archive:
gnus_5.8.3-6.diff.gz
  to dists/potato/main/source/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.diff.gz
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.diff.gz
gnus_5.8.3-6.diff.gz
  to dists/woody/main/source/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.diff.gz
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.diff.gz
gnus_5.8.3-6.dsc
  to dists/potato/main/source/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.dsc
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.dsc
gnus_5.8.3-6.dsc
  to dists/woody/main/source/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.dsc
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.dsc
gnus_5.8.3-6_all.deb
  to dists/potato/main/binary-all/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.deb
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.deb
gnus_5.8.3-6_all.deb
  to dists/woody/main/binary-all/news/gnus_5.8.3-6.deb
  replacing gnus_5.8.3-5.deb

Note that this package is not part of the released stable Debian
distribution.  It may have dependencies on other unreleased software,
or other instabilities.  Please take care if you wish to install it.
The update will eventually make its way into the next released Debian
distribution.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
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Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  

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Format: 1.6
Date: Wed,  9 Feb 2000 03:53:43 -0600
Source: gnus
Binary: gnus
Architecture: source all
Version: 5.8.3-6
Distribution: frozen unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 gnus   - A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen
Closes: 57313 57396
Changes: 
 gnus (5.8.3-6) frozen unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * I messed up the placement of require 'gnus-msg in message.el, so now
 emacs goes into an infinite lop. While testing, I must have had one or
 the other already loaded. closes: Bug#57313
   * This also closes: Bug#57396 since that was the old XEmacs error that
 is now fixed.
Files: 
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 e06770b5ba38631e0c48a8733bb7c0a3 11909 news optional gnus_5.8.3-6.diff.gz
 3889fdcbef4018d6c7c64440b3ad5ba8 1287064 news optional gnus_5.8.3-6_all.deb

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Re: 2.2 kernel

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 07:20:54AM -0800, aphro wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Onno wrote:
> 
> Onno >2.2.13 and 2.2.14 are lokking good, is there anyone on this
> Onno >list that find them unstable?
> Onno >
> 
> i avoided 2.2.13 it was just a bug fixer from 2.2.12/.11  .14 has been ok
> for me so far, although i have it installed on a BP6 that crashes on a
> weekly basis as it is (.11 crashed on a daily basis)

2.2.13 is evil.  it throughly and completely and repeatedly ruins
filesystems.  

(i know not for everyone, but if you want to be scared into getting
rid of it i'll send the 64000+ byte output of fsck as it dumped 2/3 of
my / filesystem into /lost+found, to do `corrupted blocks' or some
such, then compare that to the changelog for 2.2.14 fixing a `obscure
block corruption bug'  )

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X config/XDM

[Timothy C. Phan]

Hi,

  I'd like to know what is the proper and easy way for a
  not so X-experience guy to configure the X windows. Specifically
  the configuration in the XF86Config, modeline, options, etc.
  Secondly, how to setup the desktop for user if the X-window
  was configured properly?

  If the XDM is installed, is there a way to disable the
  XDM to come up?  I got blank screen after I installed the
  potato, X and reboot.  Because the XF86Config was not
  configured properly.

  If there is any document/help site on these so where, please
  let me know as well.

  As always, many thanks in advance!

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Re: Newbie answers and newbie questions (was Re: Install problem)

[t.bedlam]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:56:59PM -0500, Richard Zitola was only 
   escaped alone to tell thee:
 
> And now for a newbie question of my own...
> 
> I've installed the base system and everything works fine, including
> ppp, etc.   How can I use the "tasks" and "profiles" method of
> package selection that was in section 7.23 of the install guide?
> Is this even possible, or do I have to deal with picking out of
> deselect by hand?  2000+ packages!  Yikes!

May I add that it would be helpful if the install process told you
how to get back to this particular point, in case you accidently
select the wrong one or must restart? I know I had to restart the whole
install because the system didn't begin at this point again and I
was (am ) newbie enough to be unable to locate it. Thanks.

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Re: Install problem

[t.bedlam]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 05:23:53PM -0500, Charles O. Hartman was only 
   escaped alone to tell thee:
 
> 2) If I add another piece of equipment (such as an extra hard drive),
> how do I go about acquainting the system with that fact? Do I re-run
> install? But that's a DOS command and DOS has gone away now . . .

For something like a scanner, I assume you would need to setup a driver.
For another HD, use linux's /sbin/fdisk -- just like DOS. You make
partitions, than add them to /etc/fstab

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Re: 2.2 kernel

[aphro]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Onno wrote:

Onno >2.2.13 and 2.2.14 are lokking good, is there anyone on this
Onno >list that find them unstable?
Onno >

i avoided 2.2.13 it was just a bug fixer from 2.2.12/.11  .14 has been ok
for me so far, although i have it installed on a BP6 that crashes on a
weekly basis as it is (.11 crashed on a daily basis)

i use 2.2.10 on my newer production machines, maybe i'll use 2.2.14 in the
future.  still use 2.0 on my most important machines though (~4-6 months
uptime)

nate

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Re: 3COM905B 10/100 Ethernet Config [FIXED]

[Todd Suess]

Well, just for the heck of it, I removed the card, reinstalled it
and recompiled the kernel again.   This time it found the card,
loaded it properly, and eth0 is up and running!  Thanks so much
to all those that offered suggestions and help.  The main reason I
like Debian is the quality and the helpfullness of the user base.

Thanks!

Todd

PS.  Now the only thing I have left is to get this pesky SCSI
card to work.





At 08:41 PM 2/8/00 -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote:

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I don't have the dmesg output handy, but I double checked and saw
> no reference either to the card or the driver.   quite strange.

Indeed.  What kernel version are you using?  What about any PnP settings
in the BIOS?

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Re: Bash question

[Paolo Pedaletti]

Ciao Andreas Sliwka,

 >   where or whom should I ask not-so-easy bash questions?

news:comp.unix.shell

Ciao

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Re: ssh and stuff

[Brian Boonstra]

Andrew

You can probably get the behavior you want by using the RSA login  
and ssh-agent.  That is, if you use

ssh-keygen

to generate .identity and .identity.pub files locally, then on the remote  
machine append the contents of .identity.pub to a file named

 ~myuser/.ssh/authorized_keys

you will enable RSA logins.   Then, in your local ~/.ssh/config file append  
the lines:

Host otherguy
User myuser


Finally, in any given shell session, run

ssh-agent bash

to start a bash shell with an agent (any shell will do).   Finally,  type

ssh-add

as your first command.  Logins will now be invisible and automatic, like  
rsh, so scripts ought to work.  There is an X version of the agent, too, but  
I've never gotten it working for me.



Yours,

Brian

Re: ssh and stuff

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 07:18:16PM +1100, Andrew wrote:
> Is it possible to get ssh to run a command on a remote machine from
> another script?  I've tried doing things like:
> 
> ssh host 'command' -l user < password
> EOF
> 
> but I just can't seem to get it to work.  Is it possible?

no idea on passwords from stdin, the next poster says it cannot be
done that way..

however depending on your situation you could use RSA authentication
instead, this however requires that the private RSA key have no
passphrase so it must be well protected or the target account can be
easily compromised.  

I did this so my UPS shutdown script sshs into a special account on a
second machine which shuts it down (via sudo) the command line i used
in the script is:

/usr/bin/ssh -i /some/path/.ssh/identity -n targethostname

the -n means input from /dev/null

but again make sure that identity file is WELL protected. 

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Re: Has anyone gotten TechExplorer / MathML for Netscape working?

[Brian Boonstra]

Hi Gerhard

Well, I'm not really qualified to test the plugin.  For the  
standalone, I put the recommended shell variables in ~/.profile, but that did  
no good.  If I don't hear from anybody soon, I may appeal to IBM.

Basically, the way the install is supposed to work is you run their  
little program, and it extracts everything and copies it to a new  
subdirectory in a spot you choose.  That part went OK.  But when I ran the  
app, it just died.  I tried running in gdb, but got nothing useful out of  
that either.


1   - Brian


> not jet, just downloaded it... didn't expect any problems. please tell me
> (us) more if you find the problem.
>
> gerhard

Re: LateX/TeX problems on slink. tex.fmt missing???

[Gary Hennigan]

Marko Cehaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does somebody know how to set up tex/latex system on slink?
> 
> While doing simple configurations I always get errors like
> tex.fmt not found or latex.fmt not found.
> 
> So I can't convert *.tex files via latex nor use LyX.
> 
> I tried with FAQ suggestions to create tex.fmt and it didn't
> work. Who has experienced similar problem regarding the
> configuration of tex/latex on slink?
> 
> Please help it is very important for me to have running latex on my
> system.

Believe it or not, this is a Y2K bug in TeX/LaTeX. You need to upgrade
to a newer version. Last I heard you could pick up a fixed version for
slink in the proposed updates. Download the tetex*.deb files from

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink-proposed-updates/

or use your favorite mirror, and install them via dpkg -i tetex*.deb.

Gary

Re: LateX/TeX problems on slink. tex.fmt missing???

[David Wright]

Quoting Marko Cehaja ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Does somebody know how to set up tex/latex system on slink?
> 
> While doing simple configurations I always get errors like
> tex.fmt not found or latex.fmt not found.
> 
> So I can't convert *.tex files via latex nor use LyX.
> 
> I tried with FAQ suggestions to create tex.fmt and it didn't work. Who has 
> experienced similar problem regarding the configuration of tex/latex on slink?
> 
> Please help it is very important for me to have running latex on my system.

This may be covered in, say,

http://www.uk.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-0001/msg01204.html

Cheers,

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Netscape fails on libstdc++.so.2.8

[Erik van der Meulen]

Hi, I try to install Communicator on a Debian 2.1r3 box. I have
downloaded communicator-v47-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz to
/tmp and have used dselect to install base files and the installer.
Installation does not produce any errors, but if I run I get:

 error in loading shared libraries
 libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open shared object file: no such file or
 directory

My distribution has libstdc++.so.2.9 in base. I seem to be missing
something. Any hinst most welcome.

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Re: Desperate Question...

[Jay Barbee]

> Debian,
> 
> I have been asking this question for a while now, on your newsgroups 
> and the debian chatroom. And so far no one has even offered an answer. My 
> question is this: Why is it that the gnome-apt package from the Potato, or 
> Frozen, distribution is dependant on a package that doesn't exist and has 
> never existed? I recently built several linux systems for some customers, and 
> on  the first two, gnome-apt installed fine, with no dependance errors. The 
> last few came up with gnome-apt, a package that my customers need quite 
> badly, having a dependance failure. It required libapt-pkg2.6. Yet, upon 
> investigation, the libapt-pkg2.6 package does not exist, according to your 
> web based package lookup tool. Is there any chance I can get this package, in 
> whatever unstable state it exists? Or could I have the source code for this 
> package, so that I can compile and install the library myself? I would 
> really, really appreciate it. :) Thanx!
> 
> Jon Rista
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jon,

I would say that you need to fill out a Bug report via the web site.  At least 
this way if the maintainer does have the package it is depends on, he could 
publish it, or point you to the solution.

--Jay

Re: How to change size of page in postscript doc? (non-trivial question)

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 10:35:51AM +0100, E.L. Meijer Eric" wrote:
> > 
> > I've got a PostScript doc, which is incorrectly formated - the usable part
> > uses a small rectangle on each page (on each page the same, but not centered
> > on the page), and the margines are sometimes occupied by random writings, 
> > and
> > sometimes not. I have no sources, so I can't generate it correctly.
> > The psresize fails to handle it correctly - when enlarging, it moves part of
> > the usable area outside the page and leaves some rubbish on it :-(.
> > I need an utility, where I could specify not only the change of size, but 
> > also
> > the X and Y offset, by which the page should be shifted in the output.
> > Does anybody know such a beast?
> 
> pstops can do things like that.  It requires very thorough study of the
> man page, and if the PS document is really shaky, your only option left
> is to learn postscript (it is a computer language, not just a format)
> and start debugging.  If you can do that, you will be highly esteemed
> in hacker circles (but probably have lost joy in life ;).

Thank's,
pstops did the trick, however one problem still remained - the rubbish
still exist even though it does not fit on the page. When I use the psbook and
psnup to get the smaller, printed booklet, rubbish from left page destroys the
right one :-(. Is it possible to force psnup to clip the joined pages?

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http://www.debian.org  Linux - free OS for free people!

program to monitor files

[Russell Coker]

I am after a program that will monitor a file (like a log file) and then when
some data is added to it, a program should be run.

For example I have a file that I want printed, so whenever there's some new
data added to the end of the file and after there has been ~20 seconds of no
change (I don't want this happening once per second for 20 seconds) I want
the data to be piped into "lpr".

Is there any program in Debian that can do this?

I could write something myself in a couple of hours but it would be easier to
use someone else's program.

-- 
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it, and to take delight in it is far better than simply being fond of it.

Re: reading rtf files

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> > Is there any utility/program in debian that assists in _reading_ rtf
> > files?  I only found a few that can generate them.
> Oh really did you? Could you please send me the names of those few...

There are latex2rtf (which converts latex), enscript (which can convert
plain text files) and troffcvt (for troff source).  These have their own
debian packages.  Outside debian, I found the Ted editor, which reads
and writes rtf files (http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/).

HTH,
Eric

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OT: nf_iterate error messages

[Lindsay Allen]

For two weeks or so I am getting lots of nf_iterate error messages on the 
screen

elm:# nf_iterate: NF_DROP for c40e8840.
nf_iterate: NF_STOLEN for .
nf_iterate: NF_STOLEN for .
nf_iterate: NF_STOLEN for .
nf_iterate: NF_STOLEN for .

and in the logs

Feb  9 19:38:02 elm kernel: nf_iterate: NF_DROP for c40e8840.
Feb  9 19:38:36 elm kernel: nf_iterate: NF_STOLEN for .
Feb  9 19:38:37 elm last message repeated 3 times

Has anyone a clue as to what this is about, please?

(potato, 2.3.42)

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Re: reading rtf files

[Blazej Sawionek]

> Is there any utility/program in debian that assists in _reading_ rtf
> files?  I only found a few that can generate them.
Oh really did you? Could you please send me the names of those few...

Blazej

Re: Error when apt-getting libc6

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (rick) wrote:
>Colin Watson wrote:
>> They must be a bit behind. /usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
>> (from my update today) says, when line-wrapped:
>
>And if you want a real chuckle check out the libc6
>release names in the changelog :-)

They're good, I have to admit :)

>Someone on deb-devel (Ithink; hope it wasn't here..) posted this.
>Add it to your bash config file and you can check out a changelog
>at the command line with e.g. 'changelog libc6'.  Very nice.
>
>changelog() {
>[ $# = 1 ] && lynx http://master.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog\?package=$1
>}

Very nice - didn't know about that. I prefer lynx -dump myself, but the
facility's excellent. Thanks, developers!

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Re: How to change size of page in postscript doc? (non-trivial question)

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I've got a PostScript doc, which is incorrectly formated - the usable part
> uses a small rectangle on each page (on each page the same, but not centered
> on the page), and the margines are sometimes occupied by random writings, and
> sometimes not. I have no sources, so I can't generate it correctly.
> The psresize fails to handle it correctly - when enlarging, it moves part of
> the usable area outside the page and leaves some rubbish on it :-(.
> I need an utility, where I could specify not only the change of size, but also
> the X and Y offset, by which the page should be shifted in the output.
> Does anybody know such a beast?

pstops can do things like that.  It requires very thorough study of the
man page, and if the PS document is really shaky, your only option left
is to learn postscript (it is a computer language, not just a format)
and start debugging.  If you can do that, you will be highly esteemed
in hacker circles (but probably have lost joy in life ;).

HTH,
Eric

-- 
 E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology
 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA)

How to change size of page in postscript doc? (non-trivial question)

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hi All,

I've got a PostScript doc, which is incorrectly formated - the usable part
uses a small rectangle on each page (on each page the same, but not centered
on the page), and the margines are sometimes occupied by random writings, and
sometimes not. I have no sources, so I can't generate it correctly.
The psresize fails to handle it correctly - when enlarging, it moves part of
the usable area outside the page and leaves some rubbish on it :-(.
I need an utility, where I could specify not only the change of size, but also
the X and Y offset, by which the page should be shifted in the output.
Does anybody know such a beast?
-- 
TIA
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http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab

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hardware, and what OS do you need to watch DVD !!!

ssh and stuff

[Andrew]

Is it possible to get ssh to run a command on a remote machine from
another script?  I've tried doing things like:

ssh host 'command' -l user <

Re: Desperate Question...

[Martin Fluch]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, B.C. Computer wrote:

> Debian,
> 
> I have been asking this question for a while now, on your
> newsgroups and the debian chatroom. And so far no one has even offered
> an answer. My question is this: Why is it that the gnome-apt package
> from the Potato, or Frozen, distribution is dependant on a package
> that doesn't exist and has never existed? I recently built several
> linux systems for some customers, and on the first two, gnome-apt
> installed fine, with no dependance errors. The last few came up with
> gnome-apt, a package that my customers need quite badly, having a
> dependance failure. It required libapt-pkg2.6. Yet, upon
> investigation, the libapt-pkg2.6 package does not exist, according to
> your web based package lookup tool. Is there any chance I can get this
> package, in whatever unstable state it exists? Or could I have the
> source code for this package, so that I can compile and install the
> library myself? I would really, really appreciate it. :) Thanx!
> 
> Jon Rista
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Known bug (if I remember right). I just tried it, recompiling on my
woody-box works. If you want to compile you need to download the following
files (the links are found at the bottom of
http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/gnome-apt.html)

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/admin/gnome-apt_0.3.6.tar.gz
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/admin/gnome-apt_0.3.6.dsc

then do a 

dpkg-source -x gnome-apt_0.3.6.dsc
cd gnome-apt-0.3.6
dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -rfakeroot

and that should build the package (dpkg-source and dpkg-buildpackage are
from the dpkg-dev package).

Martin

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Re: 2.2 kernel

[Onno]

2.2.13 and 2.2.14 are lokking good, is there anyone on this
list that find them unstable?

On one server I maintain I use 2.2.13 and it has an 
uptime of 72 days now. No wierd stuff happening and no 
strange log entries. Yet...

Regards,

Onno

At 11:36 PM 2/8/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>The blackdown JDK 1.2 requires a 2.2.xx kernel with glibc 2.1.2 and I'd like
>to find out which 2.2 kernel is reasonably stable for use on a development
>workstation. Would 2.2.10/glibc 2.1.2 work well?
>
>Rahul Sood
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Buying Debian Preinstalled

[mcclosk]

|> I'm about ready to go out and buy a new computer.  I'd really like
|> to buy a system with Debian preinstalled.  I called VA Linux, and
|> even though they sell Debian, they won't sell me a computer with
|> Debian on it.  Penguin uses Red Hat as well.

You can order custom-built systems from Kachina Technologies with
Debian installed (in fact that's their focus):

Kachina Technologies, Inc.
PO Box 9307
Albuquerque, NM 87119-9307
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://www.KachinaTech.COM

Indy Box and Linux Systems Labs also do this:

www.indybox.com
www.lsl.com

In the UK, there's:

Space-Time Systems
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web-site:  http://www.spacetimesystems.dial.pipex.com
Address:   Kiln Lane, Leigh Sinton, Malvern, Worcs
Telephone:  0796 7000291

I bought a system with Debian pre-installed some years ago from Promox
Solutions (in Sunnyvale then), but there were some ways in which their
inexperience with the distribution was apparent and caused problems.

Jim

Re: Which Boot Manager?

[Onno]

Some justification is in its place here:

1) I multi-boot the next systems:

   - DOS 6.22 / Win95  (neetly split by system commander)
   - Win NT 4
   - Linux (work partition)
   - Linux (test partition)
   - (not booting: 2x data and swap)

2) System commander has a user managment system that
   allows you to setup users. You can deny users to
   boot partitions and/or see data partitions.

3) It easy to setup and use.

Regards,

Onno



At 11:00 PM 2/8/00 +, Sean Johnson wrote:
>I don't understand why anyone using Linux would resort to 3rd party
>proprietary software to manage their boot-up. LILO will allow for as
>many different OS boots as you are able to make partitions for. If you
>have some beef with LILO, then there is always grub.
>
>Personally I've always been well served by LILO and feel it is an
>extremely useful boot up manager. 
>
>Take a look at man lilo, and you'll see what I mean.
>
>Sean
>
>Onno wrote:
>> 
>> I use System Commander.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Onno
>> 
>> At 01:05 AM 2/5/00 +, Lane Lester wrote:
>> >I currently have Win 98 and NT along with Corel Linux on my system.
>> >CL's lilo lets me go with either Linux or Windows, and NT's boot
>> >manager lets me pick between 98 and NT.
>> >
>> >I just bought McCarty's _Learning Debian GUN/Linux_, and I'd like to
>> >install the Debian that came with it.
>> >
>> >Can you tell me how to manage the booting between all these guys? I
>> >installed Power Quest's Boot Magic, but after it started, my screen
>> >went black and stayed that way. I had a dickens of a time getting back
>> >to my original setup.
>> >
>> >I don't know why Boot Magic wouldn't work, although their Web site
>> >acknowledges that it can happen.  I do use EZ-drive to manage the two
>> >10-gig drives in my system.
>> >
>> >So is there an approach I can use that will manage these OSes?
>> >Preferably without having to reinstall any that are already there?
>> >
>> >
>> >Lane
>> >
>> >
>> >Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
>> >
>> >Coming to you through Corel Linux
>> >
>
>

Re: Has anyone gotten TechExplorer / MathML for Netscape working?

[Gerhard Kroder]

Brian Boonstra wrote:

> anybody gotten this working in Debian, especially in recent trees?

not jet, just downloaded it... didn't expect any problems. please tell me (us) 
more
if you find the problem.

 gerhard

Re: x-server connections

[Robert Waldner]

On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 23:29:36 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I'd like to execute an application on a remote host, controled by my
>x-server.
>How can I connect from a remote machine to my local x-server?

there are at least 2 options:

open a shell on the remote machine, execute "emacs -display :0.0 
&"

or have a look at the x-forwarding-options of ssh

hth,
&rw

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Re: oracle 8i

[Steve Mayer]

Tiago,

  I had a problem where I was getting errors about missing files and
unreferenced symbols after a number of installs.  Someone pointed out
that
they had made an extra 250MB swapfile before installing.

  The machine had 256M of physical ram as well as a 128 meg swap
partition, but I figured I'd give it a go.  I created a 250 meg swap
file
on one of the partitions, mounted it and redid the Oracle install.  Lo
and behold, the installation went through without a hitch (other than
the issues you mention below and some binaries not being set
executable).

Give it a try.

Steve

Tiago Antao wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
>   Does anybody has instaled oracle 8i ee in debian? I'd really prefer to
> install it in debian, but the docs talk about redhat only, and I'm a bit
> afraid of installing a production oracle on debian. I've already tried
> for development and tests, and had some problems (with awk and gmake),
> both solved. Does anybody has had other problems?
>   thanks for any comments,
> 
> Tiago
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Re: can't ftp into box

[Steve Mayer]

Just the off chance, have you made sure that the user's shell is listed
in the /etc/shells file correctly?  Without an entry in there, ftp
access
will be denied.

Steve

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:58:00PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> > Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands:
> > > ftp> user 
> > > ftp> pass 
> >
> > Tried that. Doesn't work. ;^( I get the same stuff: "Not connected".
> >
> > Now, I installed linux onto the laptop. Still can't ftp into the
> > debian box. Furthermore, I cannot ftp into the laptop either!
> >
> 
> Well, does your ftp server run from inetd? and is it possibly commented
> out? Are there rules in /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny that might
> cause this? Can you 'telnet  21' ? Perhaps tcpwrappers is
> taking issue with the connection? Did you try another ftp client (like
> WS_FTP) ?  Just some thoughts...
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Re: [Off-topic] Scanner advice sought

[Allan M. Wind]

On 2000-02-09 00:20:49, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> 
> I'd appreciate advice on selecting a simple Linux-compatible scanner. Nothing
> fancy, just to scan the odd picture of our daughter etc. Lowish resolution is
> fine.  I wouldn't want to spend more than 100 USD. I have no SCSI adapter
> (yet ?).  

I never got the combo Umax Astra 1200S + Buslogic 958B to work.


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Re: [Off-topic] Scanner advice sought

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> 
> I'd appreciate advice on selecting a simple Linux-compatible scanner. Nothing
> fancy, just to scan the odd picture of our daughter etc. Lowish resolution is
> fine.  I wouldn't want to spend more than 100 USD. I have no SCSI adapter
> (yet ?).

It'll be hard to find one that's Linux compatible for less than $100US -
most of those are parallel port units that are useless without Win9x.

> I've studied the SANE webpage as well as the Hardware HOWTO, but have
> difficulties locating any of the supported models in stores.

The hardware HOWTO tends to lag behind what's currently available.  I
would go for a HP SCSI scanner; I've heard that they come with an ISA SCSI
card (Adaptec 1520, I think).

> Also, real-life feedback might be quite illuminating. So any helpful
> information would be greatly appreciated. Please email me privately as
> I am not currently subscribed to debian-user. I will summarise back to
> the list.

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[Off-topic] Scanner advice sought

[Dirk Eddelbuettel]

I'd appreciate advice on selecting a simple Linux-compatible scanner. Nothing
fancy, just to scan the odd picture of our daughter etc. Lowish resolution is
fine.  I wouldn't want to spend more than 100 USD. I have no SCSI adapter
(yet ?).  

I've studied the SANE webpage as well as the Hardware HOWTO, but have
difficulties locating any of the supported models in stores.  Also, real-life
feedback might be quite illuminating. So any helpful information would be
greatly appreciated. Please email me privately as I am not currently
subscribed to debian-user. I will summarise back to the list.

Thanks,  Dirk

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Re: Evil and Naughty

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 11:37:54PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is probably offtopic, but has anyone read documentation that
> comes with libc6 package for potato? Gotta love the release names. I
> now have a habit, since release names are so funny.
> 
> 

Yes, very imaginative...
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Re: 2.2 kernel

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> 
> The blackdown JDK 1.2 requires a 2.2.xx kernel with glibc 2.1.2 and I'd like
> to find out which 2.2 kernel is reasonably stable for use on a development
> workstation.

2.2.x has been more than stable for at least 6months.

> Would 2.2.10/glibc 2.1.2 work well?

Go with 2.2.14.  You'll appreciate the bug fixes that have gone in since
2.2.10.

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Evil and Naughty

[dan]

This is probably offtopic, but has anyone read documentation that comes with 
libc6 package for potato? Gotta love the release names. I now have a habit, 
since release names are so funny.

Re: 2.2 kernel

[Marcin Kurc]

2.2 kernels ARE STABLE.
devel kernels used to be 2.1 and now are 2.3
the latest stable kernel is 2.2.14, devel - 2.3.42, prepatch 2.3.43-5

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 11:36:45PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> The blackdown JDK 1.2 requires a 2.2.xx kernel with glibc 2.1.2 and I'd like
> to find out which 2.2 kernel is reasonably stable for use on a development
> workstation. Would 2.2.10/glibc 2.1.2 work well?
> 
> Rahul Sood
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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2.2 kernel

[rsood]

The blackdown JDK 1.2 requires a 2.2.xx kernel with glibc 2.1.2 and I'd like
to find out which 2.2 kernel is reasonably stable for use on a development
workstation. Would 2.2.10/glibc 2.1.2 work well?

Rahul Sood
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Re: Kernel Compilation Trouble

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 09:00:14PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm trying to compile my kernel (to enable sound).  So I installed the 
> 2.0.36 source, ran make config, make dep, and make clean (everything was 
> successful).  Unfortunately, when I run make zImage I get an error:
> 

I highly suggest using the Debian kernel-package. It's much easier.
$ make menuconfig
$ make-kpkg clean
$ make-kpkg --revision=2:mykernel.1 kernel_image
$ make-kpkg --revision=2:mykernel.1 modules_image #optional 3rd party
$ dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb  #replace * as appropriate

Add the --zimage flag if that's really what you want.
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Re: can't ftp into box

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:58:00PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands:
> > ftp> user 
> > ftp> pass 
> 
> Tried that. Doesn't work. ;^( I get the same stuff: "Not connected".
> 
> Now, I installed linux onto the laptop. Still can't ftp into the
> debian box. Furthermore, I cannot ftp into the laptop either!
> 

Well, does your ftp server run from inetd? and is it possibly commented
out? Are there rules in /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny that might
cause this? Can you 'telnet  21' ? Perhaps tcpwrappers is
taking issue with the connection? Did you try another ftp client (like
WS_FTP) ?  Just some thoughts...

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Re: Kernel Compilation Trouble

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Hey,
> 
> I'm trying to compile my kernel (to enable sound).  So I installed the
> 2.0.36 source, ran make config, make dep, and make clean (everything
> was successful).

A tip: 'make menuconfig' is quite a bit more user-friendly than 'make
config'.

> Unfortunately, when I run make zImage I get an error:
> 
>   
>   Non-GCC header of 'system'
>   compressed size 20.
>   ld -qmagic -Ttext 0xfe0 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o
^^ 
You're building an a.out kernel.  I don't know how well it's tested that
late in the 2.0 series; try reconfiguring the kernel to be ELF, then run
'make clean zImage', and see what you get.

However, the undefined references don't look right; I don't ever remember
seeing them, although it's been over a year since I've run 2.0, so my
memory could be faulty.

>   ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0fe0
>   misc.o:  In function 'fill_inbuf':
>   misc.o(.text+0x1ebc): undefined reference to 'input_data'
>   misc.o(.text+0x1ec1): undefined reference to 'input_len'
>   misc.o(.text+0x1ed7): undefined reference to 'input_data'
>   make[2]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>   make[2]: Leaving Directory 
> '/usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot/c
>   ompressed'
>   make[1]: *** [compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
>   make[1]: Leaving Directory 
> ''/usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot/c
>   ompressed'  
>   make: *** [zImage] Error 2

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Re: oracle 8i

[Denis Zaitsev]

The big hemorroidali with installation 'cos of \r\n instead of simple \n in
all the Oracle distribution's text files. Debian does nothing if such the
file is a script. But when this problem had been resolved all were ok.

Buying Debian Preinstalled

[Matthew W. Roberts]

I'm about ready to go out and buy a new computer.  I'd really like to
buy a system with Debian preinstalled.  I called VA Linux, and even 
though they sell Debian, they won't sell me a computer with Debian
on it.  Penguin uses Red Hat as well.

Any ideas?

Re: can't ftp into box

[Matthew Dalton]

What do your following files look like (on the Debian box)?

/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts.deny


Arcady Genkin wrote:
> 
> Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands:
> > ftp> user 
> > ftp> pass 
> 
> Tried that. Doesn't work. ;^( I get the same stuff: "Not connected".
> 
> Now, I installed linux onto the laptop. Still can't ftp into the
> debian box. Furthermore, I cannot ftp into the laptop either!
> 
> I can telnet both ways w/o any problems. Can ping both ways, too. I
> can use rcp! Just not ftp.
> 
> Something must be rotten with network.
> 
> I tried doing "ftp -n", too.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> > On Tue, 08 Feb 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> > > Hi. I'm trying to install linux onto my notebook. It has no cdrom, so
> > > I'm trying to transfer some files via ftp from my debian box into the
> > > laptop (which runs win98 of course ;^( ). I've set up an ethernet link
> > > between the boxen, and have the laptop on 192.168.2.2, and the Debian
> > > box has 192.168.2.1 on the interface that talks to the notebook.
> > >
> > > I can ping either computer from either one. Moreover, I can telnet
> > > from the notebook into the Debian box w/o any problem. It's just to
> > > ftp into the debian box that I can't.
> > >
> > > I can ftp into the same computer from another box on my network
> > > (different subnet, though -- 192.168.1.*) with no problem. And no, I
> > > am not trying anonymous connection.
> > >
> > > An ftp session from ms-dos window looks like this:
> > > c:\>ftp 192.168.2.1
> > > > ftp: connect :10061
> > > ftp>
> > >
> > > After which I can't execute any ftp command, getting "Not connected"
> > > message.
> > >
> > > I don't get any prompts to enter my user name or password.
> 
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Re: can't ftp into box

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

[...]

> I can telnet both ways w/o any problems. Can ping both ways, too. I
> can use rcp! Just not ftp.
> 
> Something must be rotten with network.
> 
> I tried doing "ftp -n", too.
> 
> Any ideas?

It might be a dumb question, but are you sure that the FTP daemon is
installed and running (either standalone or through inetd)?

You could also try to telnet to the FTP port and see what you get, like
this:

telnet desktop ftp

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Kernel Compilation Trouble

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

I'm trying to compile my kernel (to enable sound).  So I installed the 
2.0.36 source, ran make config, make dep, and make clean (everything was 
successful).  Unfortunately, when I run make zImage I get an error:


Non-GCC header of 'system'
compressed size 20.
ld -qmagic -Ttext 0xfe0 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o
ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0fe0
misc.o:  In function 'fill_inbuf':
misc.o(.text+0x1ebc): undefined reference to 'input_data'
misc.o(.text+0x1ec1): undefined reference to 'input_len'
misc.o(.text+0x1ed7): undefined reference to 'input_data'
make[2]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving Directory 
'/usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot/c
ompressed'
make[1]: *** [compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving Directory 
''/usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot/c
ompressed'  
make: *** [zImage] Error 2

Re: xfs vs xfstt vs native

[Howard Mann]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 06:45:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 02:59:24PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > > Not exactly Debian-specific
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me to some layman's=style docs concerning
> > > xfs vs xfstt vs using native Linux fonts? I've read the
> > > DeUglification mini-Howto, but it didn't make clear whether
> > > you'd want to use xfs or xfstt or both or what.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that the use of xfs/xfstt for true-type font
> > > support is sort of like "cheating", i.e. "Linux uses its own
> > > native fonts and you shouldn't introduce a foreign font
> > > system to it."
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input.
> > END OF QUOTE
> >
> > I am running both xfs and xfstt. You can specify where X will get its
> > fonts from in XF86Config. TTF fonts render much better, so it's nice
> > to use them whenever you want or have to. One excellent example is
> > Netscape. If you are on a network, you can set up a centralized font
> > server, and point all your X servers to that server.
> >
> 
> Personally, xfs doesn't make any sense unless you're sharing fonts to
> other machines. However, xfstt or xfs-tt are really the only way to have
> TT fonts displayed.  Since there's no English documents for xfs-tt, I
> used xfstt (which is quite easy).  There's a preliminary font HOWTO
> here: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/font_howto/html .



Here is another great reference :

http://www.dimensional.com/~bgiles/debian-tt.html#toc3

Cheers,


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Re: can't ftp into box

[Arcady Genkin]

Todd Suess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands:
> ftp> user 
> ftp> pass 

Tried that. Doesn't work. ;^( I get the same stuff: "Not connected".

Now, I installed linux onto the laptop. Still can't ftp into the
debian box. Furthermore, I cannot ftp into the laptop either!

I can telnet both ways w/o any problems. Can ping both ways, too. I
can use rcp! Just not ftp.

Something must be rotten with network.

I tried doing "ftp -n", too.

Any ideas?

> On Tue, 08 Feb 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> > Hi. I'm trying to install linux onto my notebook. It has no cdrom, so
> > I'm trying to transfer some files via ftp from my debian box into the
> > laptop (which runs win98 of course ;^( ). I've set up an ethernet link
> > between the boxen, and have the laptop on 192.168.2.2, and the Debian
> > box has 192.168.2.1 on the interface that talks to the notebook.
> > 
> > I can ping either computer from either one. Moreover, I can telnet
> > from the notebook into the Debian box w/o any problem. It's just to
> > ftp into the debian box that I can't.
> > 
> > I can ftp into the same computer from another box on my network
> > (different subnet, though -- 192.168.1.*) with no problem. And no, I
> > am not trying anonymous connection.
> > 
> > An ftp session from ms-dos window looks like this:
> > c:\>ftp 192.168.2.1
> > > ftp: connect :10061
> > ftp>
> > 
> > After which I can't execute any ftp command, getting "Not connected"
> > message.
> > 
> > I don't get any prompts to enter my user name or password.

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Newbie answers and newbie questions (was Re: Install problem)

[Richard Zitola]

Hi Charles,

At 05:23 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Charles O. Hartman wrote:
>But I can't get (for example) the man command to get installed. When I...

I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with dselect to answer that one, but...



>In case somebody's got a moment's patience for simplicities, I have
>three really basic questions about using Linux (which man might be able
>to answer if I could get at it!):
>
>1) How do I access other devices (for example the CD), such as to use ls
>to find out what's on them?

You have to 'mount' them.  For example, to access a CD:
  - login as root and insert a CD into the drive
  - create a mount point (simply an empty directory, try 'mkdir /cdrom'
   or 'mkdir /floppy' if they don't already exist)
  - mount the device using 'mount  '
   (i.e. 'mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom' or 'mount /dev/fd0 /floppy')
  - you'll be able to see the contents - 'ls /floppy', etc.
  - to see another cd/floppy, you have unmount and repeat this process
   (i.e. 'umount /floppy'; 'mount /dev/fd0 /floppy')
  - don't forget to 'umount' when you're done - the command is 'umount'
   not 'unmount'... not a typo.
There may be better ways, but this should work on a freshly-installed
system to get you started.


>2) If I add another piece of equipment (such as an extra hard drive),
>how do I go about acquainting the system with that fact? Do I re-run
>install? But that's a DOS command and DOS has gone away now . . .

Have a look at:
   http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.6
and other useful info nearby.  In a nutshell, to add a second IDE
drive you need to:
   - physically install the drive
   - prepare the drive - partition/format/mkfs
   - edit and specify mount points in /etc/fstab, these will be
 automatically mounted at boot time.


>3) What's the proper way to shut down the system? I can reboot (which
>does an orderly shutdown) and kill the power during the reboot, but that
>seems crude.

   machine$ sync
   machine$ sync; halt

Wait for "system halted" and then you can safely power off.

   machine$ shutdown -h now
 
does the same thing, but gives a nice little warning message to users.



And now for a newbie question of my own...

I've installed the base system and everything works fine, including
ppp, etc.   How can I use the "tasks" and "profiles" method of
package selection that was in section 7.23 of the install guide?
Is this even possible, or do I have to deal with picking out of
deselect by hand?  2000+ packages!  Yikes!


thanks,

-Rich Zitola
ZeePrime Technical Services
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XF86-3.3.6 hoses fonts?

[Robert L. Harris]

Since I upgraded to XF86-3.3.6 when I did a dist-upgrade to "frozen" 
my fonts in X have been trashed.  I get what looks like pipes and 
screwed up pixels.  Help?

Robert


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  These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.

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Re: Desperate Question...

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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Have you tried contacting the gnome-apt maintainers?  Try reaching them at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You could always build gnome-apt from source if you can find a way to
install the .deb.  That's probably not quite what you want to hear, but
it'll work!

noah

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, B.C. Computer wrote:

> newsgroups and the debian chatroom. And so far no one has even offered
> an answer. My question is this: Why is it that the gnome-apt package
> from the Potato, or Frozen, distribution is dependant on a package that
> doesn't exist and has never existed? I recently built several linux
> systems for some customers, and on  the first two, gnome-apt installed
> fine, with no dependance errors. The last few came up with gnome-apt, a
> package that my customers need quite badly, having a dependance failure.
> It required libapt-pkg2.6. Yet, upon investigation, the libapt-pkg2.6
> package does not exist, according to your web based package lookup tool.
> Is there any chance I can get this package, in whatever unstable state
> it exists? Or could I have the source code for this package, so that I
> can compile and install the library myself? I would really, really
> appreciate it. :) Thanx!


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Re: Mail & PGP

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:12:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 03:36:37PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote:
> > mutt's pgp/gpg integration is second to none (it's *really* nice) but it
> > only uses pgp/mime which a lot of clients don't support yet
> > (pine/netscape).  i also personally hate it's lack of editor
> > integration.  if it wasn't for that i'd be using mutt now (in fact i have
> END OF QUOTE
> 
> Editor integration? What are downsides of using external editors, like
> vim for example?

I can't think of any. You learn one *good* editor and then have
many/most programs call $EDITOR or $VISUAL  when they need an editor and
you the user are in a comfortable environment. 
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Re: Desperate Question...

[Eric G . Miller]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 05:47:42PM -0700, B.C. Computer wrote:
> Debian,
> 
> I have been asking this question for a while now, on your
> newsgroups and the debian chatroom. And so far no one has even
> offered an answer. My question is this: Why is it that the
> gnome-apt package from the Potato, or Frozen, distribution is
> dependant on a package that doesn't exist and has never
> existed? I recently built several linux systems for some
> customers, and on  the first two, gnome-apt installed fine,
> with no dependance errors. The last few came up with
> gnome-apt, a package that my customers need quite badly,
> having a dependance failure. It required libapt-pkg2.6. Yet,
> upon investigation, the libapt-pkg2.6 package does not exist,
> according to your web based package lookup tool. Is there any
> chance I can get this package, in whatever unstable state it
> exists? Or could I have the source code for this package, so
> that I can compile and install the library myself? I would
> really, really appreciate it. :) Thanx!
> 
> Jon Rista [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See bug report #57283 -- It's known problem. It'll either be fixed
before Potato is released, or the package will be dropped.  Remember
that Potato has not been officially released, so there are bugs. Use at
your own peril.

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Re: Desperate Question...

[Aaron Solochek]

Its broken... its irritating.  I would like to see it fixed too.

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


"B.C. Computer" wrote:

> Debian, I have been asking this question for a while now, on
> your newsgroups and the debian chatroom. And so far no one has even
> offered an answer. My question is this: Why is it that the gnome-apt
> package from the Potato, or Frozen, distribution is dependant on a
> package that doesn't exist and has never existed? I recently built
> several linux systems for some customers, and on  the first two,
> gnome-apt installed fine, with no dependance errors. The last few came
> up with gnome-apt, a package that my customers need quite badly,
> having a dependance failure. It required libapt-pkg2.6. Yet, upon
> investigation, the libapt-pkg2.6 package does not exist, according to
> your web based package lookup tool. Is there any chance I can get this
> package, in whatever unstable state it exists? Or could I have the
> source code for this package, so that I can compile and install the
> library myself? I would really, really appreciate it. :) Thanx! Jon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]