Re: Ext3... what about it?
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Daniel T. Chen wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes > > + new filesystem == bad ju ju. > > You really did mean to say that you "wouldn't touch 0.9.10 + Linux 2.4.10 > with a 10-foot stick," didn't you? (Forgive my obtuseness if that's not > the case... 0.9.9 + Ted's dir speedup patch + Linux 2.4.9-ac12 has worked > just fine here for quite a while...) From all reports on lkml, problems > are surfacing in 0.9.10... Actually, I did mean what I said. The VM in 2.4.10 and 2.4.9-ac have diverged significantly. That is to say, they are completely different. Kernel development is moving *very* quickly these days. For data with value, I let a few million other people test these new releases before I go after them. 0.9.10 + 2.4.10 would require a 15-foot stick at least. -jwb
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
> | On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:43:19AM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > | > i'm curious. why is it that the textwidth has to be set to either > | > 70 or 72 when the console can display 80? my tw=79 how is my > | > message appearing? I remember IBM punch card was 80 char wide. And last 8 column was supposed to be used for optional line number. Thus 80-8=72. I think that is the reasion behind 72 char per line custom. This explain why not 65 nor 75. Of course, indenting message on VT-100 like consoles like others has mentioned is the reason why this rule survived untill now. Osamu PS: I used to type that card. Teletype and (paper punch) tape was great improvement over that card :-) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + My debian quick-reference, http://www.aokiconsulting.com/quick/+
Re: Java in Konqueror (Resolved)
Hi Thanks for your help ! I installed j2re1.3 from blackdown.org, then I can use java in konqueror, everything is ok now :) -- Regards Liu Tao On Tuesday 25 September 2001 17:59, Stephan Hachinger wrote: > Hi! > > There's a similar discussion on this list at the moment and we said that > > maybe one just needs j2re1.3: > >The only Java package I have installed is the j2re1.3 package from > >blackdown.org. They have apt-getable deb packages. > > Hmm, maybe you could just write a little mail to the list if it also works > for you. > > Cheers, > > Stephan > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Liu Tao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:49 AM > > Subject: Java in Konqueror > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I am using kde2.2.1 in sid and my web browser is konqueror. > > > I installed jdk package, and enabled java and javascript globally > > > in konqueror. > > > Then I opend chat.yahoo.com, but I can't enter a chat room. > > > Konqueror shows "Loading applet", then nothing happend. > > > > > > Does someone could chat in yahoo with konqueror? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards > > > Liu Tao > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel modules problems
I've been a user of Debian for several years now. Due to a problem with libc last week, I had to go through the pain of reinstalling everything. Anyway, since then, every time I try to compile a new 2.4.x kernel, I get a message from depmod reporting dependency prioblems with almost ALL of my modules. Am I missing some package essential to making kernel deb packages? or is this simply another issue with gcc 2.95.x?
Re: Ext3... what about it?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes > + new filesystem == bad ju ju. You really did mean to say that you "wouldn't touch 0.9.10 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick," didn't you? (Forgive my obtuseness if that's not the case... 0.9.9 + Ted's dir speedup patch + Linux 2.4.9-ac12 has worked just fine here for quite a while...) From all reports on lkml, problems are surfacing in 0.9.10... --- Dan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: www.cs.unc.edu/~chenda/pubkey.gpg.asc
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:15:11PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: | On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:43:19AM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: | > | > i'm curious. why is it that the textwidth has to be set to either | > 70 or 72 when the console can display 80? my tw=79 how is my | > message appearing? | | It's not that it *has* to be set to 70 or 72. It's that by setting | it there then if the message is replied to and '> ' is added the | line still won't wrap. Not all editors reformat as easily as vim. Not only that, but have you ever tried to read a message containing extremely long lines with less? less is a great pager, and I like it, but if the beginning of the message is super long then it gets cut off in wierd ways. It's also hard to read when words are split in the middle because the pager only understands characters and not words. -D PS. Just a case-in-point, see how your message got too long now with both Rick's and my quoting? I used vim's gq formatting to re-wrap it.
Re: Upgrading potato -> progeny newton broke X11
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:47:40AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: [...snip ranting] > I have a dialup system at home with potato on it. So I decided to > upgrade to progeny and to make a new installation. [...snip ranting] > I would appreciate some advice. My suggestion is to one of 3: (1) Reinstall debian and foerget about progeny. (Then you can ask here:-) (2) Go to progeny ML for transition help from debian. (3) Get progeny CD and do fresh install. This is Debian ML. Smooth apt-get is only guranteed for debian package. Any transitiion to other system is their problem, I think. Having said this: You seem to have issue with xterm. Install the package containing xterm from progeny. If you have installed some new woody/sid package to your system, your current one may be newer than what progeny has. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + My debian quick-reference, http://www.aokiconsulting.com/quick/+
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 08:43:19AM +0800, Rino Mardo wrote: > > > i'm curious. why is it that the textwidth has to be set to either 70 > or 72 when the console can display 80? my tw=79 how is my message > appearing? It's not that it *has* to be set to 70 or 72. It's that by setting it there then if the message is replied to and '> ' is added the line still won't wrap. Not all editors reformat as easily as vim. -- The proper domain of law and government is justice -- Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net
Re: ipmasqadm portfw
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 04:15:07 -0500 "will trillich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i used to have this working like a champ, but now it folds its > arms and laughs and evil laugh-- > > we're trying to establish port forwarding so that a box internal > on our lan (192.168.1.2) can serve requests through the > firewall, from 'out there'. > > # ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L [PUBLIC_IP] 7890 -R 192.168.1.2 80 > > # ipmasqadm portfw -ln > prot localaddrrediraddr lportrport pcnt pref > TCP [PUBLIC_IP] 192.168.1.2 7890 801010 > Have you allowed access to that port with ipchains? The packets will never get to your ipmasqadm rule if ipchains is rejecting/denying them on input. Something like this should work: ipchains -A input -p TCP -d [PUBLIC_IP] --destination-port 7890 -j ACCEPT
Re: [TriLUG] Re: Typing umlauts on an english keyboard
> I haven't found a complete list of the multi_key combinations but have > found quite a few through trial and error and will be happy to write > up what I know if that would help. http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_smasch/X11/multi_keys.txt I don't know that it's a complete list, but it's certianly got a lot of wacky stuff on it. -- see shy jö
Re: OT: netfilter inquiry
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:10:22 +0800 "Rino Mardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi. i have installed from source iptables-1.2.3 thinking that the > message i'm > getting with iptables-1.2 was because of an older version. after > installation > i'm still getting the same message plus a newer one. i checked my > filters and > i can't see anything wrong with them. > > here's the message i'm getting: > > ip_tables: (c)2000 Netfilter core team > ip_conntrack (1023 buckets, 8184 max) > iptables: Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) > iptables v1.2.3: log-level `info' ambiguous Do you have this module loaded (or built for that matter)? iptable_nat
Re: Help with install: Woody
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 08:56 pm, dman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:09:20PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote: > | How do I install woody over a ppp connection? > | > | Here's what I've done so far: > | First I downloaded the images and created the three installation > | floppies, > | > | rescue.bin, root.bin, drivers.bin. > | > | The installation goes fine until the installer asks where to find the > | base system. I'm not sure what to do at this point? I have looked around > | on the debian ftp site, and I don't see any base.tgz or anything like > | that. Which files are the installer looking for? Where do I find them? > > base2_2.tgz. It's not a small file so floppies aren't a good choice > of transport medium. Also, to get ppp to work you need chat and pppd > (and maybe other stuff they depend on) so you kinda need that base > system first. Can you get ethernet on that machine? Can you burn a > CD? Can you temporarily move the hd to a different machine with a > better connection (ie ethernet)? Yeah, PPP install is pretty painful. I've also noticed that there is no /dev/modem link in the base potato during install, so pon always failed for me until I modified /etc/ppp/peers/* properly... I guess I'm about the only one who ever used ppp install. :) > -D
Re: Debian 2.2r3 apt-get & dselect -> testing
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 05:09 pm, Jaime cristerna Avila wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > This is my first time posting onto this list. I don't know if this > question is best directed to user-dpkg. Regardless, I will try asking > here first. > > > Is there any way, I can keep potato and just update the XFree to 4.1.0 > from the testing packages. I still want dselect and apt-get to be aware > of the packages and be in sync. There are "unofficial" XFree 4.x packages for Potato. Perhaps search the list archives. > Your assistance will be greately appreciated. > > > > Jaime Avila > University of Southern California > Department of Chemistry > > > # > ### , , > # # # D e b i a n / \ > #" #" # L i n u x ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) >##v##Rules! `-_---' `---_-' > ## vvv ## `--|o` 'o|--' > # ## \ ` / > ## ## ): :( > ### ###:o_o: > +++# ##++"-" > ++# #++ GNU's Not Unix! > +++# #+++ >+###+ > +++ +++
Re: X won't start in woody
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 06:25 pm, francisco m neto wrote: > Hi there, Hey! > I've been trying to install woody on a PIII with a SiS 620 graphics > chipset for the last 6 hours. You'll have to be a bit more specific with error messages and such for anyone to be of much help. Did XF4 not even install? Was there any error when you tried to start it with "startx"? Try to include useful output. Thanks.
Re: xlib problem
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 10:04 pm, Brian Schramm wrote: > I am still trying to upgrade from potato to woody. With a modem this is a > panfull process at best. Here it is 4 days latter and now I cannot get > anywhere with it. Here is the error message that I get. > > Unpacking replacement xlibs ... > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mouse.xpm', which is > also in package qcad > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb > Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > schserv:~# > > Please help. I know your pain. Dial up installations are a trip. As someone else suggested you might try removing qcad. Then you could bust out a dpkg --pending --configure and see if dpkg resumes. Good luck! (I had a similar problem with kde 2.2.1 in Sid and did an apt-get -f install and then a dpkg --pending --configure and it seemed to resolve itself, even though I didn't remove either package that had the offending file. I don't know why it worked.) > Brian > > Brian Schramm > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ 104442754 AIM schrammbrian > www.linuxexpert.org
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:06:58PM -0400 or thereabouts, dman wrote: > > Ditto for vim. > > See ":help textwidth" and ":help formatoptions" for more details. For > writing mails (such as this) I use ":set tw=70 fo=tcq". (BTW this can > be added to the .vimrc and executed automatically or it can be typed > as shown.) > i'm curious. why is it that the textwidth has to be set to either 70 or 72 when the console can display 80? my tw=79 how is my message appearing? -- "GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions." --Doug Gwyn (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards) pgpxlFFvSrPDl.pgp Description: PGP signature
OT: netfilter inquiry
hi. i have installed from source iptables-1.2.3 thinking that the message i'm getting with iptables-1.2 was because of an older version. after installation i'm still getting the same message plus a newer one. i checked my filters and i can't see anything wrong with them. here's the message i'm getting: ip_tables: (c)2000 Netfilter core team ip_conntrack (1023 buckets, 8184 max) iptables: Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) iptables v1.2.3: log-level `info' ambiguous the third line is what i was getting with version 1.2 that's why i upgraded. the last line i got only when i upgraded to version 1.2.3 and i don't see why it would be ambiguous. i've inserted my short filter: #!/bin/bash # #Point this to your copy of ip_tables IPT="/usr/sbin/iptables" #Load the module. modprobe ip_tables #Flush old rules, delete the firewall chain if it exists $IPT -F $IPT -F -t nat $IPT -X firewall #Set up the firewall chain $IPT -N firewall $IPT -A firewall -j LOG --log-level info --log-prefix "Firewall:" $IPT -A firewall -j DROP #Accept ourselves $IPT -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -d 127.0.0.1/32 -j ACCEPT #Accept DNS, 'cause it's warm and friendly $IPT -A INPUT -p udp --source-port 53 -j ACCEPT #Allow ftp to send data back and forth. $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --syn --source-port 20 --destination-port 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --syn --source-port 21 --destination-port 1024:65535 -j ACCEPT #Accept SMTP. Duh. $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 25 -j ACCEPT #Send everything else ot the firewall. $IPT -A INPUT -p icmp -j firewall $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --syn -j firewall $IPT -A INPUT -p udp -j firewall -- "GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions." --Doug Gwyn (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards) pgpAZYAvObwVp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xlib problem
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:04:45PM -0400, Brian Schramm wrote:
| I am still trying to upgrade from potato to woody. With a modem this is a
| panfull process at best. Here it is 4 days latter and now I cannot get
| anywhere with it. Here is the error message that I get.
|
| Moving old app-defaults file XmAddressBook to
| /etc/X11/app-defaults/XmAddressBook.xlibs-old.
| Moving old app-defaults file XRn to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XRn.xlibs-old.
| Moving old app-defaults file Atmidi to
| /etc/X11/app-defaults/Atmidi.xlibs-old.
| Unpacking replacement xlibs ...
| dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb
| (--unpack):
| trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mouse.xpm', which is
| also in package qcad
| dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
| Errors were encountered while processing:
| /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb
| Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
| E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
| schserv:~#
|
| Please help.
I have highlighted the most significant message above. The problem is
the file that the new package is trying to install is also owned by
another package. It would be pretty nasty for packages to stomp on
each other's feet like that so dpkg stops and warns you instead. The
only solution that I know of is to remove one package (qcad) and
install the other (xlibs) then reinstall the first.
I have this same problem with a 3rd party package ('sos') putting it's
binary in /usr/X11/bin and then trying to upgrade xfree86-common.
Say ... I could fix that myself, couldn't I?
HTH,
-D
mysql root account stopped working
Hello, yesterday's `apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade` broke mysql. I used to have the root account passwordless, but now this doesn't work anymore. mysql -u root is giving me ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: NO) and on shutdown I get Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: NO)' ...failed You don't seem to have the right password in /root/.my.cnf Killing MySQL database server by signal: mysqld. This will prevent a clean system shutdown, too. Is there an new option, that prevents passwordless root accounts or has the interpretation of the host table recently changed? Thanks, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
Re: SSSCA (was Re: OT or relevent?)
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 01:54:39PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: | on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:34:51PM +0100, Lee Elliott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | > Just read this. | > | > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21830.html | | I *STRONGLY* encourage the use of descriptive subject lines and/or | appropriate context when posting naked links. Ditto. | The story is [...] Thanks Karsten. I hadn't gotten around to following the link yet, but now that I know it is interesting I will. -D
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 08:49:50PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: | Thus spake Matthew Dalton: | > dman wrote: | > > | > > Ditto for vim. | > > | > > See ":help textwidth" and ":help formatoptions" for more details. For | > > writing mails (such as this) I use ":set tw=70 fo=tcq". (BTW this can | > > be added to the .vimrc and executed automatically or it can be typed | > > as shown.) | > | > You can also set options for individual files in vim by including a line | > like 'vi: textwidth=72' in the file. | | This works great for me (I had exactly this question a little while ago, | and some kind soul passed it on: | | set editor="vim -c 'set textwidth=72' While that is functional, I prefer to set editor to 'vim' in the mailer and have the following in my .vimrc augroup Mail au! au FileType mail set tw=70 fo=tcrq au FileType mail set comments+=n:\| augroup END Even if I change mailers I'll still get the settings. -D
xlib problem
I am still trying to upgrade from potato to woody. With a modem this is a panfull process at best. Here it is 4 days latter and now I cannot get anywhere with it. Here is the error message that I get. Moving old app-defaults file XmAddressBook to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XmAddressBook.xlibs-old. Moving old app-defaults file XRn to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XRn.xlibs-old. Moving old app-defaults file Atmidi to /etc/X11/app-defaults/Atmidi.xlibs-old. Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mouse.xpm', which is also in package qcad dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) schserv:~# Please help. Brian Brian Schramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ 104442754 AIM schrammbrian www.linuxexpert.org
Re: source.list error recovery
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 12:47 pm, Jacques Normand wrote: > I've just played with some unstable packages lists and it doesn't behave > like I want. Is there any way to downgrade all packages to the latest > avaibled in the corrected sources.list. I mean a softer way than a > reinstall ;-) I've never tried that before. Perhaps you can try an apt-get --reinstall install [packages] with the corrected source list. Hopefully someone else will chime in saying if this will work or not. Since the versions installed will still be newer than what's available in the new sources list, I'd guess the above won't do what you want. If you only hosed a few packages, you could try doing it by hand. If it's an entire system, you might be shafted. > Jacques
Re: Java in Konqueror
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 05:59 am, Stephan Hachinger wrote: > Hi! > > > Hmm, maybe you could just write a little mail to the list if it also works > for you. I'm using the Blackdown JRE 1.3 with Konqueror in 2.2.1 and Java seems to work. > Cheers, > > Stephan >
Re: Woody install over PPP: How?
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:18 am, Lars Jensen wrote: > How do I install woody over a ppp connection? I've got the three > floppies: > You're in for a treat. You need about 15 floppies formatted and ready to go. You might want to format them even if they're already formatted, as even a small error on the disk will result in having to trash the disk. The same place in the installation guide you found the links to the boot and root disks, you'll find links to the 15 or so floppy images of the base system. You'll need all of these before you can configure installation to use PPP. Oh, wait, 'Woody'? I don't think Woody has an installation disk set yet, does it? If you meant Woody instead of Potato you're sort of on your own I think, until Woody is officially released. You can use the Potato install disks and base, tweak some apt-get source lines, and end up with Woody when you're done though. You can probably search the archives for how to accomplish this. > > Thanks, > Lars. > > %%% > Lars Jensen, Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno NV 89512-3999. > Tel: 775.673.7113 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Finding old PCI Ethernet cards
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Doug Fields wrote: > Slightly off topic... > > I am still running an old 1.2.13 kernel system, and I have found it > increasingly difficult to buy a system with enough ISA slots for my old > hardware. So, I want to put a PCI ethernet card in instead of an old ISA > NE2000. (I obviously can't upgrade the software else I would have by now.) > > I found two possibly PCI ethernet drivers in the kernel source: for the > "AMD Lance" and the DEC "Tulip". However, I don't seem to be able to find > any cards which run with this. > > Does anyone know of any PCI cards which I can buy today which will run on a > 1.2.13 kernel? The ISA NE2000 driver will also work with PCI NE2000 (or clones such as RealTek 8029) cards.
Re: About a laptop
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:49:39PM -0700, Ben Hartshorne wrote: | On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:09:03PM -0400, dman wrote: | > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:57:06PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: | > | In your message of: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:06:19 EDT, you write: | > ... | > | >As I was looking up info on the suspend-to-disk feature I found some | > | | > | I got suspend to disk working by setting up a partition with lphdisk | > | from http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/. Then pressing fn-a will | > | suspend to disk. I found this to be a nearly worthless feature | > | though. Writing out a 384MB+ memory image takes a several minutes, | > | and reading it back in takes much longer than booting from scratch. | > | Even with the normal suspend, I have left my laptop asleep for 24 | > | hours and still only used less than 1/3 of one battery. | > | > Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. I think I'll try it anyways because the | > ability to not drain battery power while still leaving your work open | > sounds nice. One thing to note though : if I close the laptop too | > quickly after shutting down it isn't really shutdown yet and is in | > suspend(-to-RAM) mode. When I open it again it loads up, finishes | > shutting down, and takes quite a while to get anything useful out of | > it :-). | | In the standard laptop bios, you can disable the "sleep to ram on screen | close" feature. I switched it to only turn off the screen when I close, | and require an explicit command to sleep, either to disk or ram. I much | prefer this behavior. This BIOS doesn't seem to have that option. I have "Suspend to RAM" and "Suspend to Disk" as the only choices for "Suspend Mode". -D
Re: Help with install: Woody
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:09:20PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote: | How do I install woody over a ppp connection? | | Here's what I've done so far: | First I downloaded the images and created the three installation | floppies, | | rescue.bin, root.bin, drivers.bin. | | The installation goes fine until the installer asks where to find the | base system. I'm not sure what to do at this point? I have looked around | on the debian ftp site, and I don't see any base.tgz or anything like | that. Which files are the installer looking for? Where do I find them? base2_2.tgz. It's not a small file so floppies aren't a good choice of transport medium. Also, to get ppp to work you need chat and pppd (and maybe other stuff they depend on) so you kinda need that base system first. Can you get ethernet on that machine? Can you burn a CD? Can you temporarily move the hd to a different machine with a better connection (ie ethernet)? -D
Re: latest unstable, lots of crashing galeon
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Tim Moss wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) > "Jeffrey W. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > apt-get upgrade this morning, upgraded a lot of GNOME stuff. Now galeon > > crashes a lot. Anyone else seeing this suddenly? > > > > Unfortunately, I don't have anything useful to add that might help solve > the problem but I thought I'd let you know you're not alone. The same bug also seems manifest in nautilus-mozilla. Mozilla proper continues to work fine. From another email on galeon-user, the bug seems to be related to the newest libc/locale packages. Should I file a bug? -jwb
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
Thus spake Matthew Dalton: > dman wrote: > > > > Ditto for vim. > > > > See ":help textwidth" and ":help formatoptions" for more details. For > > writing mails (such as this) I use ":set tw=70 fo=tcq". (BTW this can > > be added to the .vimrc and executed automatically or it can be typed > > as shown.) > > You can also set options for individual files in vim by including a line > like 'vi: textwidth=72' in the file. This works great for me (I had exactly this question a little while ago, and some kind soul passed it on: set editor="vim -c 'set textwidth=72' Good luck, Steve -- No animal should ever jump on the dining room furniture unless absolutely certain he can hold his own in conversation. -- Fran Lebowitz pgp9yYgvNO6Yu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Word-wrapping text editor
dman wrote: > > Ditto for vim. > > See ":help textwidth" and ":help formatoptions" for more details. For > writing mails (such as this) I use ":set tw=70 fo=tcq". (BTW this can > be added to the .vimrc and executed automatically or it can be typed > as shown.) You can also set options for individual files in vim by including a line like 'vi: textwidth=72' in the file. Matthew
Re: Ext3... what about it?
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote of ext3: > As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't > exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I > wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes > + new filesystem == bad ju ju. Agreed. I use ext3 0.9.6 with kernel 2.4.9 and have seen no problems. I plan to skip kernel 2.4.10 and hope that .11 or .12 will resolve most of the problems that people are seeing. Craig
Solved! WAS: Re: ide zip drive problem with 2.4.9 ?
i thought a more appropriate subject is in order. - Forwarded message from Rino Mardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:28:01 +0800 From: Rino Mardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian Users Subject: Re: ide zip drive problem with 2.4.9 ? Mail-Followup-To: Debian Users User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:07:16PM +0800 or thereabouts, Rino Mardo wrote: > is there a known problem with the kernel-2.4.9 and ide zip drives? > > i have this ide zip drives which i can use without problems with the > stock kernel that comes with debian2.2r0. as soon as i updated the > kernel to 2.4.9 i'm getting this during boot: > > ide-floppy driver 0.97 > hdd: No disk in drive > hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm > ide-floppy: hdd: I/O error, pc = 5a, key = 5, asc = 24, ascq = 0 > > the last message also appears if i compile the ide-floppy driver as a > module whenever i do a "mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd1 /zip". i have emailed > the author of the driver but it hasn't responded. most probably > busy. anyway, i've run out of option as to what to do so i'm > presenting it to the list hoping for some directions or answer. > answering my own email the problem is specific to the 2.4.9 kernel. as soon as i upgraded to 2.4.10 it never occured to me again. the ide-floppy driver version in 2.4.10 is "0.97.sv". - End forwarded message - -- "GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions." --Doug Gwyn (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards) pgpwl7VvmMalp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: About a laptop
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:09:03PM -0400, dman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:57:06PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > | In your message of: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:06:19 EDT, you write: > ... > | >As I was looking up info on the suspend-to-disk feature I found some > | > | I got suspend to disk working by setting up a partition with lphdisk > | from http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/. Then pressing fn-a will > | suspend to disk. I found this to be a nearly worthless feature > | though. Writing out a 384MB+ memory image takes a several minutes, > | and reading it back in takes much longer than booting from scratch. > | Even with the normal suspend, I have left my laptop asleep for 24 > | hours and still only used less than 1/3 of one battery. > > Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. I think I'll try it anyways because the > ability to not drain battery power while still leaving your work open > sounds nice. One thing to note though : if I close the laptop too > quickly after shutting down it isn't really shutdown yet and is in > suspend(-to-RAM) mode. When I open it again it loads up, finishes > shutting down, and takes quite a while to get anything useful out of > it :-). In the standard laptop bios, you can disable the "sleep to ram on screen close" feature. I switched it to only turn off the screen when I close, and require an explicit command to sleep, either to disk or ram. I much prefer this behavior. -ben -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Hartshorne ...Discarding smoothly, as we disembark, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All thoughts that held us wiser for a moment ben.hartshorne.net Up there, alone, in the impartial dark. -M. Oliver My PGP key is at /pgp.txt. Please encrypt all communications. pgpiEtV1yCn6y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help with install: Woody
On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 17:09, Lars Jensen wrote: > > > How do I install woody over a ppp connection? > > Here's what I've done so far: > First I downloaded the images and created the three installation > floppies, > > rescue.bin, root.bin, drivers.bin. > > The installation goes fine until the installer asks where to find the > base system. I'm not sure what to do at this point? I have looked around > on the debian ftp site, and I don't see any base.tgz or anything like > that. Which files are the installer looking for? Where do I find them? > > Thanks, > Lars. Please be a bit more patient with your questions. I've seen at least 2 requests from you under different titles within an hour today. Give a detailed list of the options you are given when you get to your stuck point, I at least haven't needed to use those install disks and I'm not sure how to answer your question until I know what your options are. --mike
Re: Getting Sound to work
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 09:02 am, dman wrote: > Run windows and record the IRQ, Base Address and DMA Channel that it > uses for the sound card. I had to provide the proper values as > options to one of the modules. I used to have a Compaq Presario (5035 > I think) and the ESS1869 worked great on it. IRQ Info 05 -ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive I/O PORT Info 0220h-022Fh - ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) 0268h-026Fh - ES1869 Control Interface (WDM) 0330h-0331h - ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) 0388h-038Bh - ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) DMA Channel Info 01 - ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) 03 - ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive (WDM) Also in windows Device Manager it says the sound card is connected through a PnpBIOS. I have the PnPBIOS support option compile into my kernel. I am currently using vanilla 2.4.10 Steven Farrier
Re: Handling with BASH variables
* Raffaele Sandrini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
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> BTW: what is the difference between $KDEDIR and ${KDEDIR}? When is wich used?
RTFM.
Ok, ${FOO}bar means variable $FOO followed by "bar",
$FOObar means variable $FOObar. Capisce?
Dima
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Re: mozilla install broken?
I've looked into in more and the problem is with libc6. If you use the next-to-latest version (2.2.4-1, NOT 2.2.4-2) everything works dandily. -Joe On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 16:15, Hall Stevenson wrote: > * Joe Barnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010925 17:15]: > > > > > > Hi there, I'm trying to install the latest mozilla packages (0.9.4) > > in SID on my unstable box, and I'm getting errors in the postinstall > > script. to be more specific, the regxpcom process segfaults. > > > > > I'm sure its something with my system, but I don't know where to look: > > any ideas? > > It's not just you. I saw the same problem. Oh well, I'll continue using > Opera 'til they get it fixed. I'm sure more people will run into it and > we'll all know when it's fixed. :) > > Hall > >
Re: Handling with BASH variables
On Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> BTW: what is the difference between $KDEDIR and
> ${KDEDIR}? When is wich used?
They refer to the same data. The braces form is to
seprate the variable from the context. For example:
rename $fname $fnamebackup # is ambiguous,
rename $fname ${fname}backup # is not.
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Re: Simple backups
Hi, I use tar and zip to do all my backups. simple and easy. but if your looking for another way, check out rsync Cheers, Mike Quoting Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all ! > > I want to make simple backups of my work, nothing more complex than > moving things to a different partition and/or disk. I know I can do it > with a few commands like tar, gz and cp, but perhaps somebody can tell > me about other ways to do it that I should consider. > Thanks in advance ! > > Daniel > -- > "There is no spoon..." - The Matrix > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Unix password config
Hi, I probably should have explained myself a little better. :) The purpose of the password changing is for a Samba lab. I didn't realize at first that I had to edit the smb.conf to allow smaller smb passwords. and I believe that when a user changes their smbpasswd, the passwd command that gets invoked from smb.conf is run as root and therefore their unix password can be whatever. I agree with you in *not* having whimpy small passwords on linux. However, I have one lab where there are students from grade 7 and younger. Some of them can't even spell their name.(The real young ones) So, I end up using usernames and passwords with only 3 characters. However, in some of the high schools, I definetly must use good security to maintain the labs. Some of these kids now adays are pretty sneaky. I like the idea of your pwgen. I shall look into this more. Thanks Mike Quoting "Karsten M. Self" : > on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:52:06PM -0700, Mike Egglestone > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Is there a way to setup "passwd" so that when a user goes to change > > their password, it can be as short as they want and as simple as they > > want? > > Yes. > > However, it's very strongly discouraged. > > This question belongs to the class of those to which I suggest the > poster research the issue on their own such that they gain a further > understanding of the reasons why such actions are deprecated. > > I'd suggest instead a longer password coded as a passphrase, which can > often provide both better security and be more memorable than a simple > random password. > > On my own systems I use pwgen to generate strings, generally 10-12 > characters in length, e.g.: > > $ pwgen -acn 12 10 > Dohziedai7li vei5zaiHaice chu5Deepeemi Huashaix5jie Keeghahgair0 > Yaht6wahpumo choo3muhieSh Ree7hoohiecu thiRaengie2y ro4Lahnaesoa > > Peace. > > -- > Karsten M. Self > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the > brave > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the > free >Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! > http://www.freesklyarov.org > Geek for Hire > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html >
Re: Ext3... what about it?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Julio Merino wrote: > Hi all > > I'm seeing several messages about ext3 nowadays... for example this thread > about Ext3 on Install... > > I've seen it also in IRC, and some webpages... > > Can it be considered some "stable" now? Or what's happening? > > Thanks. > > BTW: I'm currently using ext2, and I don't switch to resierfs because > freebsd can't access it nor partitionmagic. I hope that with ext3 > these problems will go away, isn't it? An ext3 filesystem can be mounted, read, and written by a system that understands ext2, as long as the ext3 filesystem is clean and was normally shutdown. As far as stability, 0.9.6 has given me no problems, but I also haven't exercised it that much. There have been a few troubles with 0.9.9. I wouldn't touch 0.9.9 + Linux 2.4.10 with a 10-foot stick: major VM changes + new filesystem == bad ju ju. -jwb
Re: Simple backups
hi ya daniel my preference is tar... -- extremely simple backup.sh for 10.1.1.1 --- # mount other_machine:/home/daniel.backup /mnt/backup tar zcvf /mnt/backup/daniel.datecode.tgz /etc/ home/daniel umount /mnt/backup mail -s "backup done for /home/daniel" daniel < /dev/null # - othermachine# cat /etc/exports ... /home/daniel.backup 10.1.1.1(rw,no_root_squash) ... pick options you are comfy with... you SHOULD use a different disk for backup and keep it umounted even if the disk is on the same machine ... - problem w/ it is if the power supply burps.. - the memory or cpu goes nuts and starts to do random writings best to use a backup disk on a different server when the backup files get to big...you'd have to do incremental backups c ya alvin http://www.Linux-Backup.net - collection of free backup scripts - cpio, rsync/ssh, dump, etc...etc.. On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Daniel Toffetti wrote: > Hi all ! > > I want to make simple backups of my work, nothing more complex than > moving things to a different partition and/or disk. I know I can do it > with a few commands like tar, gz and cp, but perhaps somebody can tell > me about other ways to do it that I should consider. > Thanks in advance ! > > Daniel > -- > "There is no spoon..." - The Matrix > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
X won't start in woody
Hi there, I've been trying to install woody on a PIII with a SiS 620 graphics chipset for the last 6 hours. Everything was working fine while I was using potato, but when I made a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it began to complain about a lot of dependencies, and ended up saying that 'there was a problem while processing the package xlibs-4.1.0.???.deb'. After half an hour trying to understand what was happening, I decided to make a fresh instalation of woody. Here is where the problem arrives: everything went OK, except for X. The graphics chipset was working fine with XF3, but it won't work properly under XF4. I know that the chipset (SiS 620) IS supported by both XF3 and XF4. Anyone knows how to solve the problem, or, even better (I think), how to get XF3 to be installed on woody the right way (so other packages that depend on it won't complain)? Thanks, -- []'s, francisco m neto
Re: 2.4.10, problems?
On Tue, 2001-09-25 at 19:56, Bostjan Muller wrote: > No problem, do not have to patch, you can use the plain vanilla 2.4.10 and than > use kernel-package tools to create .deb with the kernel image and modules > (source.deb creatin does not seem to work with latest kernel-package). I can confirm that on my system. Of course we still get the debianized *tar.gz + *dsc (which does the same thing). -- Neo: I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you.
xlibs & aswedit
anyone got any workarounds for this ? (last night's testing upgrade): * Preparing to replace xlibs 4.1.0-5 (using .../xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in package aswedit Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) * msw (please cc any reply off-list also, as not permanently subscribed) -- *** Free Speech *** Free Dmitry Sklyarov *** Sell your shares in Adobe. Abjure ALL American non-free software. Help prevent Europe from following American corporate dictates: http://uk.eurorights.org/http://uk.freesklyarov.org/
Re: CD Burner Permissions
Thus spake Joachim Trinkwitz: > The solution to your problem is rather well hidden deep in cdrecords man > page: > >If you don't want to allow users to become root on your >system, cdrecord may safely be installed suid root. This >allows all users or a group of users with no root privi >leges to use cdrecord. Cdrecord in this case checks, if >the real user would have been able to read the specified >files. To give all user access to use cdrecord, enter: > > chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord > chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord > >To give a restricted group of users access to cdrecord >enter: > > chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord > chgrp cdburners /usr/local/bin/cdrecord > chmod 4710 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord >and add a group cdburners on your system. > >Never give write permissions for non root users to the >/dev/scg? devices unless you would allow anybody to >read/write/format all your disks. > > I've done this on my system, and it works well. Thanks to all who wrote back - Joachim's solution (the one I should have noticed earlier, but was inexplicably more addled than before) did the job elegantly. Thanks again, everyone. As always, this list provides the best tech support/discussion forum I've encountered so far. It's good to know these resources exist. Take care, Steve -- Power corrupts. And atomic power corrupts atomically. pgpDNDehBa8XK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mozilla install broken?
* Joe Barnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010925 17:15]: > > > Hi there, I'm trying to install the latest mozilla packages (0.9.4) > in SID on my unstable box, and I'm getting errors in the postinstall > script. to be more specific, the regxpcom process segfaults. > > I'm sure its something with my system, but I don't know where to look: > any ideas? It's not just you. I saw the same problem. Oh well, I'll continue using Opera 'til they get it fixed. I'm sure more people will run into it and we'll all know when it's fixed. :) Hall
Help with install: Woody
How do I install woody over a ppp connection? Here's what I've done so far: First I downloaded the images and created the three installation floppies, rescue.bin, root.bin, drivers.bin. The installation goes fine until the installer asks where to find the base system. I'm not sure what to do at this point? I have looked around on the debian ftp site, and I don't see any base.tgz or anything like that. Which files are the installer looking for? Where do I find them? Thanks, Lars. %%% Lars Jensen, Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno NV 89512-3999. Tel: 775.673.7113 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple backups
Hi all ! I want to make simple backups of my work, nothing more complex than moving things to a different partition and/or disk. I know I can do it with a few commands like tar, gz and cp, but perhaps somebody can tell me about other ways to do it that I should consider. Thanks in advance ! Daniel -- "There is no spoon..." - The Matrix
Re: Mail Server
hi ya wyatt ??? what do you mean too by "good package" - 1 minute of wrk to get it to do soemthing... - a couple days to test/configure/"understand" it?? in psuedo code... run it from cron... however often you want to check ping mail.your_domain.com if ( $error ) mail -s "mail died" you < /dev/null with expect or perl ??? telnet mail.your_domain.com 25 quit if ( $error ) mail -s "mail died" you < /dev/null if you are pokng around at user mailgeez... i wouldnt wanna be working there... though as a boss ... i'd like to know if people are working or surfing/searching the web c ya alvin http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Monitoring/ - for the "big" list of monitoring apps On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Greg Wiley wrote: > On Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:33 AM, Wyatt Rowe - O.S.N. wrote: > > > > [...] please advise on a good package / solution to monitor > > and track a Mail / Internet server that runs on Debian 2.1. > > What do you mean by "monitor and track?" Do you want > an application or system monitor to assist with technical > operations? Do you want to read users' mail or apply > some heuristic to messages? Something else? Please > clarify. > > Best, > > -=greg > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Unix password config
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:52:06PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to setup "passwd" so that when a user > goes to change their password, it can be as short as they want > and as simple as they want? > > The default is setup so that a user's password has to have at least 4 > characters, and the new password can't be too similar to the old one. > > I would like the setup so that the user can change their password to > practically anything. > Is this possible? > Check in /etc/pam.d/passwd -- Mike Alborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # pgp keyid: C36DC30D Publishing a volume of verse is like dropping a rose petal down the Grand Canyon and waiting for the echo. pgpGU4nj21acT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Woody install over ppp: How?
How do I install woody over a ppp connection? Here's what I've done so far: First I downloaded the images and created the three installation floppies, rescue.bin, root.bin, drivers.bin. The installation goes fine until the installer asks where to find the base system. I'm not sure what to do at this point? I have looked around on the debian ftp site, and I don't see any base.tgz or anything like that. Which files are the installer looking for? Where do I find them? Thanks, Lars. %%% Lars Jensen, Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno NV 89512-3999. Tel: 775.673.7113 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix password config
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:52:06PM -0700, Mike Egglestone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to setup "passwd" so that when a user goes to change > their password, it can be as short as they want and as simple as they > want? Yes. However, it's very strongly discouraged. This question belongs to the class of those to which I suggest the poster research the issue on their own such that they gain a further understanding of the reasons why such actions are deprecated. I'd suggest instead a longer password coded as a passphrase, which can often provide both better security and be more memorable than a simple random password. On my own systems I use pwgen to generate strings, generally 10-12 characters in length, e.g.: $ pwgen -acn 12 10 Dohziedai7li vei5zaiHaice chu5Deepeemi Huashaix5jie Keeghahgair0 Yaht6wahpumo choo3muhieSh Ree7hoohiecu thiRaengie2y ro4Lahnaesoa Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgppvn3Sqwq6Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Upgrading potato -> progeny newton broke X11
Working in a Redhat dominated environment, I boasted about apt-get and that a Debian system never have to be reinstalled if it is managed properly. After my recent experience I would not boast easily again. I have a dialup system at home with potato on it. So I decided to upgrade to progeny and to make a new installation. I followed progeny's instructions, but it failed. Somehow I could never get "apt-get install progeny-standard-system" to work. I think a new installation would probably have taken about a quarter of the time I have spent so far to get my system working again. Anyhow this is not a progeny list so all I am asking is how can I get my X11 to work again. gdm would just in a seemingly endless loop get back to the login screen. startx resulted in: -- /usr/bin/X11/xterm: bad command line option "-xauth" usage: /usr/bin/X11/xterm [-version] [-help] [-display displayname] ... Type /usr/bin/X11/xterm -help for a full description. waiting for X server to shut down I could not find where xterm was being called upon in /etc/X11. I even removed all my files like ~/.xinitrc, ~/.xsession, ~/.Xdefaults etc to try and eliminate the problem, but have had no success so far. I feel a little bit embarrassed. I am supposed to be an experienced Debian user and never since my newby days about 6 years ago did I experienc a situation where I could not get X11 to work in one way or another. On my system at work (mixed woody/unstable) startx would not work, but fortunately I could get gdm working. I would appreciate some advice. Johann. -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 021-982 2694 / 082 782 0336 / 021-808 4036(w) Posbus 4668, Tygervallei 7536 "For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38,39
Security, SSH connection speed (DNS?) (was: Newbie Questions, Performance and security...)
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:27:01AM -0500, Alexander Wallace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > My questions: Will I be in the safe side if I decide to use debian for > an internet server to serve web/mail/servlets/php/mysql and stuff like > that as far as performance and security goes? compared to a redhat > system? Security in any event is subject to how well you administer the system. Debian's package management makes it easier to rid yourself of unnecessary cruft on the system, relative to RH, and to keep current with updates. Debian tends to stay quite current on bugfixes. > One thing I noticed on this new debian system I just installed is that > to connect to the box by ssh it takes like 2 minutes to get connected > over the lan, where if I try ssh to one of the redhat ones I have here > it is instantly connected, both have the same network cards and the > debian machine is a pIII 450, the redhat is a p 200 Almost certainly DNS issues involving reverse DNS lookup. Run ssh with the '-v' option, and take a look at your sshd logs. > Can someone also point me out to where to get the right apt sources to > go to woody and sid??? 'testing' and 'unstable' in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, respectively, rather than 'stable'. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpfCku0VCXro.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian 2.2r3 apt-get & dselect -> testing
Hello Everyone, This is my first time posting onto this list. I don't know if this question is best directed to user-dpkg. Regardless, I will try asking here first. My colleague and I have been installing Debian 2.2rx onto several computers built by my colleague and I. We prefer using G200 video cards but unfortunately Matrox insists on discontinuing their earlier products. We can no longer obtain G200 or G400 video cards and are forced to purchase other cards not supported by the X in Debian 2.2r3. Therefore, I am considering the installing XFree864.1.x on potato but I don't want to break apt-get or dselect. We have tried pointing apt-get to the testing packages, but then We end up upgrading other packages as well. I have also installed Debian without X and then I downloaded XFree 4.1.0 tarballs and installed X that way. However, apt-get and dselect no long know about XFree86. Is there any way, I can keep potato and just update the XFree to 4.1.0 from the testing packages. I still want dselect and apt-get to be aware of the packages and be in sync. Your assistance will be greately appreciated. Jaime Avila University of Southern California Department of Chemistry # ### , , # # # D e b i a n / \ #" #" # L i n u x ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) ##v##Rules! `-_---' `---_-' ## vvv ## `--|o` 'o|--' # ## \ ` / ## ## ): :( ### ###:o_o: +++# ##++"-" ++# #++ GNU's Not Unix! +++# #+++ +###+ +++ +++
Re: restarting a daemon
Thanks to all for your replies, now that I can manage trial & error, I hope I'll get my exim.conf right...Thanks again -- Giulio
Re: Ext3... what about it?
ext3 essentially is a "journaled" ext2. See http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext3/ I've been using ext3-0.9.9 on Linux-2.4.9-ac12 (+ assorted patches) for some time now, and it's _quite_ stable. --- Dan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: www.cs.unc.edu/~chenda/pubkey.gpg.asc On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Julio Merino wrote: > Hi all > > I'm seeing several messages about ext3 nowadays... for example this thread > about Ext3 on Install... > > I've seen it also in IRC, and some webpages... > > Can it be considered some "stable" now? Or what's happening? > > Thanks. > > BTW: I'm currently using ext2, and I don't switch to resierfs because > freebsd can't access it nor partitionmagic. I hope that with ext3 > these problems will go away, isn't it?
OT - Finding old PCI Ethernet cards
Slightly off topic... I am still running an old 1.2.13 kernel system, and I have found it increasingly difficult to buy a system with enough ISA slots for my old hardware. So, I want to put a PCI ethernet card in instead of an old ISA NE2000. (I obviously can't upgrade the software else I would have by now.) I found two possibly PCI ethernet drivers in the kernel source: for the "AMD Lance" and the DEC "Tulip". However, I don't seem to be able to find any cards which run with this. Does anyone know of any PCI cards which I can buy today which will run on a 1.2.13 kernel? Thanks, Doug
Re: Sys Admin guide specific to Debian?
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:40:10AM -0500, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Larry Holish wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:34:49AM -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > I'm a Linux beginner with Debian installed. I'm looking for a beginner's > > > guide to System Administration and I'm wondering if there might not be one > > > particular to Debian. If not, can someone point me in the direction of a > > > good generic SysAdmin guide? > > > > There is a Debian specific one (though not completed) at: > > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ > > wonderful! (wish i'd known about it earlier...) It's very not completed, as will become -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpOydVbw43sm.pgp Description: PGP signature
SSSCA (was Re: OT or relevent?)
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:34:51PM +0100, Lee Elliott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Just read this. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21830.html I *STRONGLY* encourage the use of descriptive subject lines and/or appropriate context when posting naked links. The story is Dan Berke's syndicated Newsforge essay on the SSSCA, The Security Systems Standards and Certification Act. This is a Senate bill authored jointly by Ernest "Fritz" Hollings (D-SC) and Ted Stevens (R-AK), now with a House sponsor. The bill would effectively render free software illegal. It would effectively render most hardware illegal. As drafted (and it's possible the language would change) it applies to any software, and any digitally-capable hardware. 17 USC 1201 makes illegal circumvention of copy prevention systems. The SSSCA makes it illegal "to manufacture, import, off to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in" any digital hardware or software which does not contain copy prevention systems. Michael Tiemann of RedHat (good people, never mind the distro ;-) has been actively soliciting input on how to best address this threat. His own response: Based on numerous suggestions from people who've contacted me, and my own scientific sampling mething (walking the halls at Red Hat), I've concluded that the really right way to address the SSSCA is to rally an effort under the EFF's umbrella. While the events of Sept 11 have claimed the top of the EFF's priority list, the SSSCA sits at spot #2: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html . That's no small deal, because as you can see, the EFF has all sorts of great infrastructure for helping people (1) do their part, and (2) providing a good user interface for helping others you direct to their site. There's about 20 people on this list--pretty minimal, considering the number of people I believe to be subscribed to FSB that are eligible US voters--so I think we cannot underestimate the importance of getting other people involved in this issue. My call to action is as follows: 1. If you're not a member of the EFF, join now, and donate what you can reasonably afford ($100 or more would be good). 2. Follow the EFF's advice and draft a letter you can send to your senate and congresscritters. Even though this bill is not yet before either house, it would not be a bad thing to give your elected representatives fair warning about your opinions. The EFF has web-based forms that make it easy to find your elected representatives--use that to fill out the physical envelopes you will need. 3. Tell 10 friends that (1) you're a member of the EFF, (2) you've sent your letters, and (3) you think they should do the same. There's a great line in the movie "Diner" where Kevin Bacon says "I'll hit you so hard it will kill your whole family". Let's hit the SSSCA so hard that congress feels it right in the DMCA. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpLUJmKjFLqD.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!?
Thanks, especially for the bit about the two cards working as expected when connected to two separate switches. I was trying to test the server before taking it up to our ISP, and I set up both NIC's on one switch, thinking to test them by disconnecting one cable at a time. This returned the strange behaviour I reported: when one cable was disconnected, neither interface answered; when that was re-connected and the other disconnected, both answered! Now trying with each NIC on a different switch gives what I would expect: connection from each net is severed when the cable is disconnected, and re-established when the cable is reconnected. Quite how such strange behaviour can arise when both cards are connected to one switch is well beyond me. A quick check with a Realtek card in place of the EtherExpress PCI revealed the same behaviour, as did a quick re-compile of the kernel with the ethernet card module as a separate driver. Really strange... The strangeness only disappeared when I put the cards on two separate switches. Thanks and best regards, George Karaolides 8, Costakis Pantelides St., tel: +35 79 68 08 86 Strovolos, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicosia CY 2057, web: www.karaolides.com Republic of Cyprus On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Theo Zourzouvillys wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:07:14 +0100 > From: Theo Zourzouvillys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'George Karaolides' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!? > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > I shall certainly try using ipchains for this, and will let you > > know if it works. > > > > Best regards, > > > > George Karaolides 8, Costakis Pantelides St., > > tel: +35 79 68 08 86 Strovolos, > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicosia CY 2057, > > web: www.karaolides.com Republic of Cyprus > > > > > > Another thing worth noting is any virtual interfaces created on eth1 > will not work for some strange reason. > > However, I looked on one of our firewall boxes, which is separating > two networks, routing, and filtering packets. It has one IP address > on either network. This is working fine: > > ~~ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# uname -a > Linux w00t 2.4.9 #2 Thu Sep 20 02:36:56 BST 2001 i686 unknown > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# route -n > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref > Use Iface > 10.0.0.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 > 0 eth1 > 194.93.14x.xxx 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.128 U 0 0 > 0 eth1 > 194.93.12x.xxx 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > 0 eth0 > 192.168.0.0 194.93.14x.x255.255.255.0 UG0 0 > 0 eth1 > 0.0.0.0 194.93.12x.x0.0.0.0 UG0 0 > 0 eth0 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:35:DC:22 > inet addr:194.93.12x.xxx Bcast:194.93.12x.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:368304 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:28724 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > Interrupt:5 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:35:DC:23 > inet addr:194.93.14x.xxx Bcast:194.93.14x.255 > mask:255.255.255.128 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:67172 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:58424 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > Interrupt:5 Base address:0x2000 > > *snip loopback* > > ~~ > > The eepro100 module is compiled into the kernel. > > Thinking back, last year I set up some ISP2150's (virtually the same, > but 2U high) that had one onboard NIC and we added one PCI eepro100 > into them. They worked fine, as we had one on a 213.206.4.xx address > and one on a 10.0.0.x address; on totally different switches. > > > Theo Zourzouvillys > Global Network Consultant > > + Notnet Consultancy [ www.notnet.co.uk ] > - Specialising in Unix security, ISP Start-up and regeneration, > - MySQL solutions, E-commerce, and Load balancing. > + Notnet.co.uk - Quality web hosting at an affordable price > - http://www.notnet.co.uk/ > + Mobile: +44 7747 844 300 > + [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: PGP 7.0.4 > > iQA/AwUBO7Dj8uOPAq8KU5+mEQL4VACg/GztoqPX6uwIIz33fLYml5258I8AnR0/ > AVh4OgOhiI+cI19p9xyNHZh1 > =FQr9 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- >
RE: restarting a daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning > of the sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration > file, you *must* remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to > determine how to HUP a daemon > without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. The /etc/init.d/ directory contains scripts for starting, stopping, and reloading daemons. for example running: "/etc/init.d/exim reload" - will reload exim "/etc/init.d/exim stop" - will stop exim "/etc/init.d/exim start"- will start exim To send a signal to a process, you use the kill or killall command, and add the signal name at the end, so to send a HUP signal to exim, use "killall -HUP exim". Take a look at the man pages for these commands. > > -- > Giulio > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Theo Zourzouvillys Global Network Consultant + Notnet Consultancy [ www.notnet.co.uk ] - Specialising in Unix security, ISP Start-up and regeneration, - MySQL solutions, E-commerce, and Load balancing. + Notnet.co.uk - Quality web hosting at an affordable price - http://www.notnet.co.uk/ + Mobile: +44 7747 844 300 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBO7DlnuOPAq8KU5+mEQITqQCgrpWFSAA4zLSapOYkyXQiF1u2ylMAnRnk Wo2btOZe+CcW6R0ZUnr8nyGR =oxR0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT or relevent?
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jerome Acks Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Lee Elliott wrote: > > Just read this. > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21830.html > > > > LeeE > > > > I can't find any reference to Security Systems Standards and > Certification Act at http://thomas.loc.gov/ Additional information: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html Full text here: http://cryptome.org/sssca.htm Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpordLJPIWBG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote:
| I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the
| sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must*
| remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon
| without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much.
To follow those directions use :
kill -HUP `pidof exim`
If the daemon is run at boot time you can use
/etc/init.d/exim restart
to restart it. Sending a signal ("HUP it") is better if you don't
want _any_ downtime. Restarting it via the initscript causes the
service to be down in between the stop and start.
-D
Re: time sync probs
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 07:04:05PM -0400, Doug Fields ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > I then restart the ntp daemon and noticed my date never changed. > > > However, earlier, I used ntpdate to sync with that time server > > > and it worked. (I make sure both aren't running at the same time) > > > >Have you tried running ntp recently? Often the time difference is too > >great for ntp to sync initially. After you run ntpdate and sync up with > >the time server then ntp can do it's work. > > Definitely do this, yes. But also realize that NTP does not do a sudden > date change. It merely slows down or speeds up the system clock a tiny > fraction for long enough to "drift" your clock into synchronization. > NTPDate, however, does the brute force slam dunk "it says it's 12:34, so > your clock is now 12:34" type of setting. ...which isn't a bad thing to do at startup -- there's not much on your system that's gotten too comfortable with the notion that now is now and not then. So you generally want to run ntpdate at startup (shortly after networking is enabled) to force your system to the proper time. After which, you run ntpd to keep the time accurate. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgp5vqEFPtuEe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Handling with BASH variables
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 08:24:12PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: | Hi, | | I have a problem with bash vars. For my KDE copileing stuff i have made some | files wich contain the "configure" command so that i can easily alter it and | that i can remember wich options i used. E.g. there is a file "conf_kdelibs" | the file contais that line: | ./confugure --prefix=/opt/kde --enable-final ... | Now i want to set for the prefix /opt/kde the $KDEDIR variable. | This "conf_kdelibs" file is called by my compile script with the command " | 'cat conf_kdelibs' ". Now bash is not taking the $KDEDIR varibale contents it | takes the string "$KDEDIR". How can i bring BASH to take KDEDIR as a variable? First : any time you are writing code and it doesn't work, you need to post the code that doesn't work _exactly_ for anyone to do more than take wild gueses as to the problem. Here is a correct way to write your script : --- cut here --- #!/bin/bash export KDEDIR=/whatever/the/path/is ./confugure --prefix=/opt/kde --enable-final ... --- cut here --- To run it, first make it executable (chmod u+x) then go the the base directory of the source. For example : (not real cut-n-paste output) $ pwd ~/build $ ls conf_kdelibskdelibs-src $ cd kdelibs-src $ ../conf_kdelibs $ If you unpack the source into a versioned directory, the script won't care. It looks for configure in the current working directory so you must be in the app's directory not the directory with the script. HTH, -D
Re: remote host identification has changed
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 02:00:42PM +0200, Martin F Krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach Emil Pedersen (on Mon, 24 Sep 2001 01:54:12PM +0200): > > Doesn't this indicate that someone have been using the internet cafe for > > connecting to you before? I think otherwise she should have got a "... > > host key unknow, do you realy want to proceed..." (something). > > sorry, i was being inaccurate. she has used the cafe before to connect > to me, but not before i set up a new ssh host key. Changing keys, or IPs, is sufficient to generate this message. The message is, in effect, saying "the key or IP associated with thsi server has changed". Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpcxZdCkyakB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: About a laptop
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:57:06PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: | In your message of: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:06:19 EDT, you write: ... | >As I was looking up info on the suspend-to-disk feature I found some | | I got suspend to disk working by setting up a partition with lphdisk | from http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/. Then pressing fn-a will | suspend to disk. I found this to be a nearly worthless feature | though. Writing out a 384MB+ memory image takes a several minutes, | and reading it back in takes much longer than booting from scratch. | Even with the normal suspend, I have left my laptop asleep for 24 | hours and still only used less than 1/3 of one battery. Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. I think I'll try it anyways because the ability to not drain battery power while still leaving your work open sounds nice. One thing to note though : if I close the laptop too quickly after shutting down it isn't really shutdown yet and is in suspend(-to-RAM) mode. When I open it again it loads up, finishes shutting down, and takes quite a while to get anything useful out of it :-). -D
Re: Handling with BASH variables
> it
>
> > takes the string "$KDEDIR". How can i bring BASH to take KDEDIR as a
>
> variable?
>
> I think what you are saying is you want to put
> a line: ./configure --prefix=${KDEDIR} --enable-final ...
> in your conf_kdelibs file and then have the main script
> execute that (and other ) lines in conf_kdelines, substituting
> the current value of $KDEDIR.
>
> If that is the case, don't use "cat" for that purpose. Instead,
> source it within the context of your compile script. For
> example:
>
> ...
> KDEDIR='/opt/kde'
> ...
> . conf_kdelibs # <--note the period--that's
> # the source operator
> ...
>
> Hope this helps. If you are trying to do something
> completely different, ignore this. :)
>
> Take care,
>
> -=greg
Thanks alot it works!
BTW: what is the difference between $KDEDIR and ${KDEDIR}? When is wich used?
cheers,
Raffaele
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RE: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Hi, > > Thanks for the reply. > > I shall certainly try using ipchains for this, and will let you > know if it works. > > Best regards, > > George Karaolides 8, Costakis Pantelides St., > tel: +35 79 68 08 86 Strovolos, > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicosia CY 2057, > web: www.karaolides.com Republic of Cyprus > > Another thing worth noting is any virtual interfaces created on eth1 will not work for some strange reason. However, I looked on one of our firewall boxes, which is separating two networks, routing, and filtering packets. It has one IP address on either network. This is working fine: ~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# uname -a Linux w00t 2.4.9 #2 Thu Sep 20 02:36:56 BST 2001 i686 unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.0.0.10.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 eth1 194.93.14x.xxx 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.128 U 0 0 0 eth1 194.93.12x.xxx 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 194.93.14x.x255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 194.93.12x.x0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:35:DC:22 inet addr:194.93.12x.xxx Bcast:194.93.12x.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:368304 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:28724 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:5 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:35:DC:23 inet addr:194.93.14x.xxx Bcast:194.93.14x.255 mask:255.255.255.128 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:67172 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:58424 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x2000 *snip loopback* ~~ The eepro100 module is compiled into the kernel. Thinking back, last year I set up some ISP2150's (virtually the same, but 2U high) that had one onboard NIC and we added one PCI eepro100 into them. They worked fine, as we had one on a 213.206.4.xx address and one on a 10.0.0.x address; on totally different switches. Theo Zourzouvillys Global Network Consultant + Notnet Consultancy [ www.notnet.co.uk ] - Specialising in Unix security, ISP Start-up and regeneration, - MySQL solutions, E-commerce, and Load balancing. + Notnet.co.uk - Quality web hosting at an affordable price - http://www.notnet.co.uk/ + Mobile: +44 7747 844 300 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBO7Dj8uOPAq8KU5+mEQL4VACg/GztoqPX6uwIIz33fLYml5258I8AnR0/ AVh4OgOhiI+cI19p9xyNHZh1 =FQr9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: restarting a daemon
just kill -HUP where is the process ID of your daemon but another method is /etc/init.d/exim reload jacques -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 25 septembre 2001 20:48 À : debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet : restarting a daemon I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. -- Giulio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix password config
Hi all, Is there a way to setup "passwd" so that when a user goes to change their password, it can be as short as they want and as simple as they want? The default is setup so that a user's password has to have at least 4 characters, and the new password can't be too similar to the old one. I would like the setup so that the user can change their password to practically anything. Is this possible? thanks Mike
Re: ext3 on install
Eduard Bloch wrote: > Well, we do allready have patch-package for 2.2.19 and 2.4.9 and > kernel-image-2.2.19-udma100-ext3 in Woody. The stuff may not be in the > kernel source itself, but applying a patch-package is quite easy. It's easy if you're used to building your own kernels and applying patches to sources, but I'm sure there are a lot of less-technical users who would prefer to use the standard kernel-image packages. If these packages don't have ext3, those users are effectively out of luck. Also, remember that the original question had to do with setting up ext3 filesystems at installation time, which you can't do if the kernel image on the installation CD doesn't support ext3. Sure, you can convert ext2 to ext3 after installation, once you have an ext3-enabled kernel, but it really would be nice not to have to go through that extra step. New users shouldn't have to think of ext3 as something that requires extra work on their part. That said, I'm sure many people are making use of the ext3 patch packages, and it's great that we have them. I don't use them myself only because I don't use Debian-packaged kernel sources; I use Linus' official releases together with the ext3 patches created by the ext3 developers. Craig
Ext3... what about it?
Hi all I'm seeing several messages about ext3 nowadays... for example this thread about Ext3 on Install... I've seen it also in IRC, and some webpages... Can it be considered some "stable" now? Or what's happening? Thanks. BTW: I'm currently using ext2, and I don't switch to resierfs because freebsd can't access it nor partitionmagic. I hope that with ext3 these problems will go away, isn't it? -- Make a better partition table: http://www.jmmv.f2s.com/ept Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: 18961975 pgpUmYcCzkCwh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote: > I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the > sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* > remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon > without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. What it is asking you to do is send the "HUP" signal to exim. The program you use to send signals to other programs is the "kill" program. "kill -l" will give you a list of the signals you can send. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kill -l 1) SIGHUP 2) SIGINT 3) SIGQUIT 4) SIGILL 5) SIGTRAP 6) SIGABRT 7) SIGBUS 8) SIGFPE etc. So, to send the HUP signal, you would first find out the PID (process Identification) of exim: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps auwx | grep exim ben 3818 0.0 0.7 1352 468 pts/5S12:39 0:00 exim The second column is what you're looking for. Then run "kill -1 3818" to send the HUP signal to exim. Above is the dirty way to do it. The scripts in /etc/init.d/ are what start, stop, and reload the programs you're running, including exim. The nice way to reload exim is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/exim reload (you must be root for either of these solutions.) Generally, whenever you upgrade, change settings, etc. you must restart the program dependant on these settings. The commands you can give init.d scripts are start, stop, reload, and restart. (sometimes there are others.) To be absolutely positive that you've reloaded your changes, stop and then start the daemon instead of just issuing a reload. -ben -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Hartshorne ...Discarding smoothly, as we disembark, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All thoughts that held us wiser for a moment ben.hartshorne.net Up there, alone, in the impartial dark. -M. Oliver My PGP key is at /pgp.txt. Please encrypt all communications. pgpA2H0bnxDth.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting up a bunch of boxen at a small school.
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:58:59PM -0400, Rob Ransbottom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I hear that Staroffice is going to be a quartered stuck pig. The one > monolithic program is going to be split into separate tasks. I have > found SO to be agreeable to people only familiar with MS Word. This is the case at the moment (I've got build 630-something on a box here). There are differnet invocation commands, but each is a shell wrapper calling the monolithic app. The only dis-integration to date is removing the desktop component. Anyone with further information on how this gets split is encouraged to tell us what's planned. The debian-openoffice list has been awefully quiet. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgp2jW8JjXqkQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon Your doc is telling you that you can send the process a signal--in this case a hangup or HUP--to ask it to reload its configuration. The signal-sending program in unix is 'kill'. So the command: kill -HUP will send the proper signal to the process with the given number. There are several ways to find the process number. A simple one that usually works is to search the output of the ps command for the process name. In your case: ps -Al | egrep 'exim' will return ps report lines that contain the string 'exim'. Substitute the number in the 4th column--the PID field--for in the kill command above (sometimes the "egrep 'exim'" command itself will be returned in the report. Don't use that line.). If your daemon can be down for a few moments, you can simply execute the command: /etc/init.d/exim restart Or, if that doesn't work (sometimes doesn't, don't know why), issue two commands: /etc/init.d/exim stop /etc/init.d/exim start Hope this helps. Best, -=greg
Re: deadlock
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:04:20AM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please clear these two doubts of mine : > 1. When does a deadlock happen on a Unix/Linux system ? Hopefully never. ;) > 2. What is a deadlock ? My favorite explanation of deadlock wasn't talking about computers at all. You know the old chinese philosopher's problem, in which there are 8 philosophers having dinner at a round table, and there is one chopstick in between each of them? \ o | o / oo -- oo / o | o \ Now they all want to eat, right? So let's say that each one has an algorithm for getting the chopsticks so they can eat: Pick up the chopstick on your left. If it's not there, wait till the person next to you puts it down, and then pick it up. Then pick up the chopstick on your right. If it's not there, wait till the person next to you puts it down, and then pick it up. So, if all of the philosophers sit down to eat at the same time, each one picks up the chopstick on their left. Then they look to the right, but there's no chopstick there. So they wait. Now, you have all 8 philosophers waiting for the chopstick on their right to be put down while holding onto a chopstick in their left hand. None of them will ever put down the chopstick they already have, so there will never be a chopstick on their right. They are deadlocked. The standard solutions to deadlock involve semaphores, timeouts, and sharing of resources. (Refer to your local operating systems book for more detail.) -ben -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Hartshorne ...Discarding smoothly, as we disembark, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All thoughts that held us wiser for a moment ben.hartshorne.net Up there, alone, in the impartial dark. -M. Oliver My PGP key is at /pgp.txt. Please encrypt all communications. pgp8Q1RDYdGJE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote:
> I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the
> sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must*
> remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon
> without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much.
easy way in this case:
/etc/init.d/exim reload
harder way:
kill -hup `ps awx | grep [e]xim | awk '{print $1}'`
Cheers,
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Re: restarting a daemon
On 25 Sep 2001, Giulio Morgan wrote: > I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the > sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* > remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon > without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. > Go /etc/init.d! There you find the daemon's init script. Run that script like this: ./script_name stop then when you want to start it: ./script_name start
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote: > I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the > sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* > remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon > without rebooting. In general: kill -HUP For standard daemons installed from debian packages, you can also use /etc/init.d/daemon-name restart e.g., /etc/init.d/exim restart -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists have already won. - reverius
Re: restarting a daemon
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote: > I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the > sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* > remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon > without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. > > -- > Giulio killall -HUP daemon kill -HUP `pidof daemon` or just do a ps axu, find the daemon's line and kill -HUP it by pid. m&f > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- The danger from computers is not that they will eventually get as smart as men but that we will meanwhile agree to meet them halfway. pgpFBnFPjA2Ld.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Handling with BASH variables
On Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[...] there is a file "conf_kdelibs"
> the file contais that line:
> ./confugure --prefix=/opt/kde --enable-final ...
> Now i want to set for the prefix /opt/kde the $KDEDIR variable.
> This "conf_kdelibs" file is called by my compile script with the command "
> 'cat conf_kdelibs' ". Now bash is not taking the $KDEDIR varibale contents
it
> takes the string "$KDEDIR". How can i bring BASH to take KDEDIR as a
variable?
I think what you are saying is you want to put
a line: ./configure --prefix=${KDEDIR} --enable-final ...
in your conf_kdelibs file and then have the main script
execute that (and other ) lines in conf_kdelines, substituting
the current value of $KDEDIR.
If that is the case, don't use "cat" for that purpose. Instead,
source it within the context of your compile script. For
example:
...
KDEDIR='/opt/kde'
...
. conf_kdelibs # <--note the period--that's
# the source operator
...
Hope this helps. If you are trying to do something
completely different, ignore this. :)
Take care,
-=greg
Re: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!?
Hi, Thanks for the reply. I shall certainly try using ipchains for this, and will let you know if it works. Best regards, George Karaolides 8, Costakis Pantelides St., tel: +35 79 68 08 86 Strovolos, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicosia CY 2057, web: www.karaolides.com Republic of Cyprus On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Matthew Sackman wrote: > So you just block all traffic for on IP on one port, and for the other > IP on the other port. > > Please let me know if this works. > > Under 2.4, I'd do something like: > if eth0 is for 192.168.1.1 and eth1 is for 10.0.1.1 > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -d 10.0.1.1 -j DROP > iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -s 10.0.1.1 -j DROP > iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -d 192.168.1.1 -j DROP > iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -s 192.168.1.1 -j DROP > > Should be able to be translated into ipchains somehow... > > Good luck, hope this helps. > > > Hi all, > > > > I have an Intel Nightshade server motherboard installed in an Intel server > > case, running Debian 2.2r3 (potato). > > > > Its on-board Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 ethernet card works fine on its > > own. > > > > When I install an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI card and configure two > > ethernet interfaces, the PCI card answers to both IP addresses! > > > > ifconfig returns separate hardware addresses for the two interfaces, yet > > when I disconnect the cable to the on-board card, both interfaces continue > > to function through the PCI card! > > > > -- > > Matthew Sackman > Nottingham, > ENGLAND > > - > The contents of this email are intended for the indicated recipient(s) > only. This may or may not be indicated in the above email as it is > enormously easy to fake email addresses (see the relevant RFCs). > > For security reasons this email is likely to be gnupg signed. On the > other hand it may not be if I forgot to do so. In any case, if you > are reading this on a Windows based computer then there was no point > in me doing so (provided that I remembered) as your computer is most > likely being used by yourself and 2.8 other people at the same time > (normally without your consent). > > No responsibility will be accepted by anyone for any of the contents > of this email. So tough. If in doubt, go compile Mozilla. > >
Re: ext3 on install
#include Craig Dickson wrote on Tue Sep 25, 2001 um 09:12:23AM: > it's unlikely to take a major change like a new filesystem. So as far as > Debian Stable goes, I would be surprised to see ext3 built-in until the > next release after Woody, which is to say, more than a year from now. Well, we do allready have patch-package for 2.2.19 and 2.4.9 and kernel-image-2.2.19-udma100-ext3 in Woody. The stuff may not be in the kernel source itself, but applying a patch-package is quite easy. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Wer Stabilität aufgibt, um Benutzerfreundlichkeit zu bekommen, verdient keins der beiden und bekommt meist auch keins. -- frei nach B. Franklin
Re: latest unstable, lots of crashing galeon
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) "Jeffrey W. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > apt-get upgrade this morning, upgraded a lot of GNOME stuff. Now galeon > crashes a lot. Anyone else seeing this suddenly? > Unfortunately, I don't have anything useful to add that might help solve the problem but I thought I'd let you know you're not alone.
restarting a daemon
I am trying to modify and "reload" my exim.conf file. The beginning of the sample conf file says "...you change Exim's configuration file, you *must* remember to HUP the Exim daemon". I am unable to determine how to HUP a daemon without rebooting. Any help will be appreciated, thank you so much. -- Giulio
Re: ext3 on install
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:58:21AM -0600, Adam McDaniel wrote: > > is that even going to be possible?, I thought upgrading to ext3 required > a fresh partition. That would be cool though. Which reminds me, what exactly > are the real benifits to using ext3? > > i know i could rtfm, but im busy perl-ing in another window :) ext3 offers journalling. Which basically means that the filesystem keeps a log of transactions (only write transactions I believe) to the hard disc that is never allowed to get out of sync with the contents of the hard disc. This means that if the computer goes down without the hard discs being unmounted then all you need to do is restart, the kernel will see the dirty bit set and ext3 will simply work through the journal (= log) comparing it with the hard disc, and updating the harddisc as necessary. Thus hopefully fewer fs problems and one hell of a faster fsck. You can very easily convert ext2 to ext3 so long as ext3 is in the kernel, just do: tune2fs -j /dev/hd-whatever Then update /etc/fstab and remount (oh yeah - unmount first - though strictly not necessary). If you want to play around with the boot floppies, then you can replace the kernel on the boot floppies with one that's ext3 enabled and then use that as the install kernel. You'll need another disk with the ext3 tools on it, and the installer will probably mark the partition as ext2 (I suspect it reads it from the partition table, and as there is no partition type for ext3, it will probably call it ext2), but the kernel will realise that it's ext3 when it comes to mounting it, so there shouldn't be a problem. This should work, but it'll be a little kludgy - not a slick/smooth install at all. Mind you, the last install I did was on a computer with a trashed floppy controller, so I installed from CD - potato CDs, which don't have the module in it for my NIC, so I ended up copying a 2.4 kernel deb onto a harddisc, moving the harddisc to the new machine and installing that kernel. It worked a treat! Matthew -- Matthew Sackman Nottingham, ENGLAND - The contents of this email are intended for the indicated recipient(s) only. This may or may not be indicated in the above email as it is enormously easy to fake email addresses (see the relevant RFCs). For security reasons this email is likely to be gnupg signed. On the other hand it may not be if I forgot to do so. In any case, if you are reading this on a Windows based computer then there was no point in me doing so (provided that I remembered) as your computer is most likely being used by yourself and 2.8 other people at the same time (normally without your consent). No responsibility will be accepted by anyone for any of the contents of this email. So tough. If in doubt, go compile Mozilla. pgpvVL8cy5GR1.pgp Description: PGP signature
rgb.txt and apt
I fixed the font problem by removing and purging everything X and starting over. Then the next problem was that it would say it couldn't find RGB_DB. I found that there was a link to /etc/X11/rgb.txt in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt, but the file /etc/X11/rgb.txt doesn't exist. So, I searched the mail archives and I find that I have the same experience as someone else. I tried: rm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt apt-get install --reinstall xfree86-common and it puts the link back but doesn't copy the file into /etc/X11 So, I downloaded the package, extracted the files and put rgb.txt into /etc/X11 manually. Is that a bug? Now I just have to figure out why I have a giant green rectangle on the screen all the time (I'm using the nvidia drivers). I had fixed that before by adding a vga= line to my lilo.conf file. Maybe I'll try taking the vga= line out...
Re: Setting up a bunch of boxen at a small school.
Hi Everyone, This setup seems very similar to something I saw done in the student computer centers at UC Berkeley recently. The situation there is that they had a whole bunch of pretty nice machines running Windows and MacOS. They wanted to make Linux available too, but didn't want to dedicate machines to Linux, as Windows is still more popular. The solution developed by my friend Shane (message from him pasted below) was to make a boot floppy that people that wanted to run Linux could use. This way, he didn't have to fiddle with the (rather complex) setup already running and working on the machines. There are a whole number of nice features of this solution. *One machine to administer that spits out all apps, change it once and every machine realizes the change. *Centralized passwords. You can use the same passwords on Linux, Windows, and Mac clients. *Centralized home directories. The same directory is available on all platforms, you can use whichever you think suits the current task best. *Students can't really mess with the system much, since none of it is local. Even if they hack root or something, everything of interest is exported read only from the server. *The security danger of students bringing in their own boot disks (Tom's Root Boot, lnx-bbc.org) is closed, because there's no local system to hack. And others that I am not remembering. One last comment -- Re: high school students not learning the system -- it is my opinion (as one out of high school only a few years) that the kids in high school are *more* willing to learn this stuff than any other sample population that would be using a computer center. They have the most time to play around. They do not have nearly so much of a "this is all I want to do just let me do it dammit" attitude, like I saw in the college CCs and I imagine is probably present in most businesses. They are also in a period of intense exploration of life interests, and so on. So Goferit! If you're really worried, impliment a solution like Shane's where both alternatives are available. -ben On to his description of what you need: - Forwarded message from Shane Liebling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:05:27 -0700 From: Shane Liebling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ben Hartshorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Setting up a bunch of boxen at a small school. Well if he is talking about Linux boxes I suggest doing it with Debian and using the "diskless" package and the "etherboot" project. That is what I did for rescomp (though I don't know how it is going with it these days). Basicaly you have a single server (or two if you want to split home directories and the applications onto two seperate machines) and you network boot all your clients from a floppy. They get a kernal from the network, boot and nfs-root mount the / and other directories and run everything on the RAM and hardware of the client machines. The other option is that if the clients are all junky machines (486's, PI's, etc) he may want to go with the x-terminals setup (have him look at the K-12 Linux site) whew you have a files server and an application server (which has to be _BEEFY_). The clients are just dumb terminals that just run an x-server on them (yes you could even do it all off a floppy I think with a kernal and an x-server on it), displaying the programs that are running off the application server. It just depends on the hardware situation. If they have good client machines and okay server machines go with the former, if they have junky client machines and some spare cash to build a _BEEFY_ server, got with the latter. -Shane On Sunday 23 September 2001 08:50 pm, oivvio polite wrote: > I might soon have to set up some 20 - 30 boxes supporting some 200 > students. They'll want to do word processing, browse the web, read mail. > > Of course any user should be able to log into his/her account from any box. > What are my options here? Have all applications run from a powerful server > and use boxen as X-terminals, run applications on boxen and store only home > dirs on server... > > I'm looking for a setup that's easy to admin remotely and involves zero > fiddling with the individual boxen. > > All ideas are interesting but some ideas (that have actually been > implemented and proven to work on a day-to-day basis) are more interesting. > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Hartshorne ...Discarding smoothly, as we disembark, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All thoughts that held us wiser for a moment ben.hartshorne.net Up there, alone, in the impartial dark. -M. Oliver My PGP key is at /pgp.txt. Please encrypt all communications. pgpJvrR26Lbgz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Handling with BASH variables
Hi, I have a problem with bash vars. For my KDE copileing stuff i have made some files wich contain the "configure" command so that i can easily alter it and that i can remember wich options i used. E.g. there is a file "conf_kdelibs" the file contais that line: ./confugure --prefix=/opt/kde --enable-final ... Now i want to set for the prefix /opt/kde the $KDEDIR variable. This "conf_kdelibs" file is called by my compile script with the command " 'cat conf_kdelibs' ". Now bash is not taking the $KDEDIR varibale contents it takes the string "$KDEDIR". How can i bring BASH to take KDEDIR as a variable? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net" ID: 0xEC4950E9
latest unstable, lots of crashing galeon
apt-get upgrade this morning, upgraded a lot of GNOME stuff. Now galeon crashes a lot. Anyone else seeing this suddenly? -jwb
Re: ext3 on install
Adam McDaniel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:39:35AM -0500, DvB wrote: > > Of course, once ext3 is in the standard kernel, one need only create the > > journal file (plus one or two other tweaks like disabling ext2 fsck), > > reboot (assuming even that's necessary) and, voila!, one's ext2 > > filesystem automagically becomes ext3... > > is that even going to be possible?, I thought upgrading to ext3 required > a fresh partition. That would be cool though. Which reminds me, what exactly > are the real benifits to using ext3? ext3 is simply ext2 plus journaling. No more, no less. Right now, if you want to use ext3, you simply build an ext3-enabled kernel, run tune2fs -j to set up journaling on a filesystem, and remount as ext3. DvB is correct that you can pretty trivially set up ext3 after installing, but still, it would be nice not to have to do that extra step. I'd rather be able set up a new Debian system with ext3 from the start. Craig
Re: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!?
Well, although this is not really a solution to the problem, you can easily get round the problem with a simple firewall. I don't know the exact commands for a 2.2 kernel - I've only really ever learnt the 2.4 netfilter stuff, but basically, you should be able to specify both destination addresses and interfaces in a rule. So you just block all traffic for on IP on one port, and for the other IP on the other port. That will force the routers to realise that only one port is valid for one IP and so on. I've not tested it, and I've not used it, but that is how I would go about fixing it. I'm glad I saw this actually, because I'm about to set up a server using a SuperMicro motherboard that has dual Intel ethernet controllers on it and am now prepared in case I hit the same problem! Please let me know if this works. Under 2.4, I'd do something like: if eth0 is for 192.168.1.1 and eth1 is for 10.0.1.1 iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -d 10.0.1.1 -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -s 10.0.1.1 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -d 192.168.1.1 -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -s 192.168.1.1 -j DROP Should be able to be translated into ipchains somehow... Good luck, hope this helps. Matthew On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 07:27:06PM +0300, George Karaolides wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have an Intel Nightshade server motherboard installed in an Intel server > case, running Debian 2.2r3 (potato). > > Its on-board Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 ethernet card works fine on its > own. > > When I install an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI card and configure two > ethernet interfaces, the PCI card answers to both IP addresses! > > ifconfig returns separate hardware addresses for the two interfaces, yet > when I disconnect the cable to the on-board card, both interfaces continue > to function through the PCI card! > -- Matthew Sackman Nottingham, ENGLAND - The contents of this email are intended for the indicated recipient(s) only. This may or may not be indicated in the above email as it is enormously easy to fake email addresses (see the relevant RFCs). For security reasons this email is likely to be gnupg signed. On the other hand it may not be if I forgot to do so. In any case, if you are reading this on a Windows based computer then there was no point in me doing so (provided that I remembered) as your computer is most likely being used by yourself and 2.8 other people at the same time (normally without your consent). No responsibility will be accepted by anyone for any of the contents of this email. So tough. If in doubt, go compile Mozilla. pgp20hosBx83k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing default console keymap
> "Karsten" == Karsten M Self writes: Karsten> How do you make it ***stay*** changed. Do dpkg-reconfigure console-common, and select the keymap you want. (Or select NONE to keep the upgrades from touching it.) -- G. ``Iggy'' Geens - ICQ: #64109250 Home: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Work: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WWW: http://users.pandora.be/guy.geens/ `I want quality, not quantity. But I want lots of it!'
Re: [OT] folder-hook mutt question
Thanks to Sean and Sawomir for their quick reply. It works now. Ciao, viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
Re: ext3 on install
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:39:35AM -0500, DvB wrote: > Of course, once ext3 is in the standard kernel, one need only create the > journal file (plus one or two other tweaks like disabling ext2 fsck), > reboot (assuming even that's necessary) and, voila!, one's ext2 > filesystem automagically becomes ext3... is that even going to be possible?, I thought upgrading to ext3 required a fresh partition. That would be cool though. Which reminds me, what exactly are the real benifits to using ext3? i know i could rtfm, but im busy perl-ing in another window :) -- Adam McDaniel Infrastructure Technology Consultant M-Tech Mercury Information Technology, Inc.
RE: Two ethernet cards, one IP?!?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Theo Zourzouvillys wrote: > > I have an Intel Nightshade server motherboard installed in an Intel > > server case, running Debian 2.2r3 (potato). > > > > Its on-board Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 ethernet card works fine on > > its own. > > > > When I install an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI card and configure > > two ethernet interfaces, the PCI card answers to both IP addresses! > > > > ifconfig returns separate hardware addresses for the two > > interfaces, yet when I disconnect the cable to the on-board card, > > both interfaces continue to function through the PCI card! > > > > *snip* > > > > I'm running kernel version 2.2.19 with the eepro100 driver compiled > > into the kernel, not as a module, but this does not seem to be the > > cause of the problem; other machines running with this code > > compiled into the kernel have no problem with two EEpro100's. > > > > This is certainly freaky... > > > > I have had *exactly* the same problem on a number of Intel ISP1100's, > with dual on board eepro100's, on both 2.2 and 2.4. > > I've never looked into it, as in the setup I was using; it was more > of an advantage than a problem, made my life a lot easier :) > > I would be interested to know why though, as it may be a problem one > day. > > Theo > Thanks for the reply. In my situation, this is a serious disadvantage; I will be running this server hosted at an ISP. One ethernet card will be the world interface, the other will be the interface to our company WAN. I certainly need to distinguish between them. I hope this isn't an incurable trait of the Intel server motherboards. I certainly don't look forward to having to convince the bosses to scrap two perfectly healthy server boards, with on-board SCSI too, because of such a silly quirk. George Karaolides 8, Costakis Pantelides St., tel: +35 79 68 08 86 Strovolos, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicosia CY 2057, web: www.karaolides.com Republic of Cyprus
