Re: How to read log files
> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find > someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read > it, too. > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com messages Description: Binary data
Re: problem installing grub-legacy
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 05:25:34AM +, T o n g wrote: > hi, > > Long story, I don't want Grub2/Grub-PC, etc, but get upgraded to it. Now > I can't go back, because grub-common is listed as a dependency of grub- > legacy. But the grub-common package has been upgraded for use with > version 2 only. > I posted this past week about grub-common confusion that turned a simple legacy install into a long session. Grub-common rides in with legacy and makes an /etc/grub.d directory and scatters files all over the /boot/grub directory, including grub.cfg . But then it just sits there and tries to look like Grub-PC is installed. My system still boots off /boot/grub/menu.lst, kernel updates and update-grub still modify menu.lst, ^c still drops into a grub 0.97 terminal from the boot menu. I did another legacy install last night. I do think I remember getting Grub-PC in some dependency resolution, but I was able to remove it and install legacy without forcing anything. -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329075704.ga4...@europa.office
Re: Re: Manage window: change positions, etc.
Jochen Schulz a écrit : Olivier Cailloux: I posted this message one week ago but did not receive advices. Does anybody know an other place where I could ask the question? You'd have to ask the metacity people. But I doubt they will be able to help you (short of implementing what you need which I don't think they will do). Or is it incorrectly framed? No, but I think your best bet is to switch your window manager which you ruled out in your first post. And then I don't know of a window manager that satisfies your point 1 (re-arranging of windows on taskbar). I only remember some freeware for Windows that allowed that. I would still use it at work if it didn't make explorer.exe crash. :) But while I like the idea when running Windows, I absolutely have no need to re-arrange taskbar entries when running Linux. I guess the reason is that every window manager for Linux has virtual desktops (and maybe that I have more open windows at work). :) J. Mh, that's an interesting commentary. Maybe I should change the way I manage my windows and desktops. It is very surprising IMHO that I am the only one who wants to do that. Or I'll post on some gnome / metacity list to see how I can implement this myself... Olivier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb0734a.4040...@gmail.com
Re: Working network connectivity, not working DNS resolutions
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Mike Viau wrote: Could there be an issue with MTU size? don't thing so [snip] My findings. # dig @10.254.2.254 google.com ; <<>> DiG 9.4.3-P2 <<>> @10.254.2.254 google.com ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27942 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;google.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: google.com. 55 IN A 66.249.91.104 ;; Query time: 4 msec ;; SERVER: 10.254.2.254#53(10.254.2.254) ;; WHEN: Fri Mar 26 01:02:53 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 44 [snip] So DNS does work on this box, as it forward DNS replies to other boxes on my local network. What should I do next? Any ideas? try the dig command from one of the boxes that can't get dns, follow the packet with tcpdump all you have shown above is that your router can get dns Thanks. -M Take your contacts everywhere. Try Messenger for mobile Stay in touch. Get Messenger on your phone now. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Re: handling removable media without gnome-volume-manager
> > - Load kernel modules: > > sudo modprobe usb-storage > > sudo modprobe sd_mod > >(and add them to /etc/modules) > > Do you still need to add them to /etc/modules if you are using udev? I'm not certain, but I believe usbmount has always needed udev, and at some point it seems to have been necessary to load those modules explicitly. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329094717.ga8...@rimmer.esmertec.com
Re: Wireless on BCM4315 with 2.6.32
On 28 Mar 2010, godo wrote: > Did you maybe try this: http://wiki.debian.org/wl > For me it works in the way that wifi card is live but how i said I > cannot connect to anything that have any encryption. > Thanks very much - yes, it worked! (I had to manually do "ifdown eth1 ; ifup eth1", which is something I've encountered previously.) -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329111212.ge...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find >> someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read >> it, too. >> > > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the > list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. > Mar 28 09:14:19 sfd kernel: [0.00] Linux version 2.6.31-20-generic (bui...@palmer) (gcc version 4.4.1 (Ubuntu 4.4.1-4ubuntu8) ) #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 (Ubuntu 2.6.31-20.58-generic) Doesn't look like Debian to me... -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003290416g2e5f4d30o1a44bf8d508a4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find >> someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read >> it, too. >> > > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the > list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. My 2 cents: read and understand log messages when you are in trouble, if system is working well, you don't need understand these logs. google and source code are your friend if you want to understand a message which you don't understand Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/81c921f31003290438u5c365d39w4a5a0d8cd2bf2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:06:46 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find >> someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read >> it, too. >> >> > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the > list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. I cannot see any "panic" or "kernel oops" in that log. What is the exact behaviour are you seeing? I think you should be a little more verbose so people can understand the big picture and make any suggestion. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.29.11.47...@gmail.com
Re: nic issue on Debian Lenny
Thanks you. That has worked great for me. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:16:59 -0400 (EDT), Roman Gelfand wrote: >> >> My server has two onboard nics. I am using etho. For the longest >> time it was working no problem. Then it just lost network >> connectivity. When running ifconfig I get RX packets:0. >> >> Would any one know a way to fix it? I had similar problem with >> centos. The solution there was to assign eth1 device to alias eth0. >> >> Any help is appreciated. > > Roman, > > First of all, when you say that you have "two onboard nics", I > interpret that to mean that there are two network adapters built-in > to the motherboard, as opposed to separate network adapters installed > in a bus-slot. Is that what you mean? That would be unusual. > It's quite common to see a motherboard with a built-in ethernet > adapter, but I haven't seen any motherboards with *two* built-in > ethernet adapters. Usually, if a machine has two ethernet adapters, > it either has two stand-alone NICs or else it has one NIC built-in > to the motherboard and one stand-alone NIC. But anyway ... > > Each network adapter (I assume they are both ethernet) has a > MAC (Media Access Control) address built-in to it. This MAC > address is assigned by the manufacturer when the board is made, and > is unique to that physical board. Another board of that same identical > make and model will have a different MAC address. Linux uses this MAC > address to uniquely identify Ethernet adapters. udev creates rules to > determine which MAC address to assign to eth0, which MAC address to assign > to eth1, etc. These rules are stored in directory /etc/udev/rules.d. > The exact name of the file to look at is dependent on the machine > architecture and which release of udev you have, but > "persistent-net" is the key phrase to look for. On my Debian Lenny > machine for the i386 architecture, the file is called > 70-persistent-net.rules. > > Typically, this type of problem happens > when one of the ethernet adapters is replaced. In the case of an > ethernet adapter built-in to the motherboard, that would mean > that the motherboard gets replaced. Or sometimes it happens > as the result of moving a hard drive from one computer to another, > which, as viewed by the operating system stored on that hard drive, > means that the NICs changed. In the case of a stand-alone NIC > you can move the old NIC to the new machine, but in the case of > a NIC built-in to the motherboard, you would need to swap motherboards > to keep the MAC address the same, and most people don't do that. > > In any event, the solution is to edit that file > (/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules) and change the MAC > addresses in that file according to which one you want to be eth0 > and which one you want to be eth1. In the case of a computer > with only one network connection, I usually advise people to erase > that file, it which case it will be regenerated at the next boot > with eth0 assigned to the one and only MAC address. But in the > case of multiple adapters, I advise people to edit the file. > > ifconfig -a > > will show you the MAC addresses of the cards currently present > in the machine (look for "HWaddr"). Compare that to the MAC > addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. From > that you should be able to figure out which MAC address belongs > to the old card that is no longer installed and which "device" > it used to be. Change the entry for the new card to match that > device name and delete the entry for the old MAC address. Then, > shutdown and reboot. > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` > `- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/35461406.21823181269615317233.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/57286a361003290517ycf48607k59a3748f12bc6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: bash scripting question
Hello.
I found these somewhere time ago. check if is what You need:
function timer()
{
if [[ $# -eq 0 ]]; then
echo $(date '+%s')
else
local stime=$1
etime=$(date '+%s')
if [[ -z "$stime" ]]; then stime=$etime; fi
dt=$((etime - stime))
ds=$((dt % 60))
dm=$(((dt / 60) % 60))
dh=$((dt / 3600))
printf '%d:%02d:%02d' $dh $dm $ds
fi
}
This is before the command
t=$(timer)
and this is after the command
printf 'Elapsed time: %s\n' $(timer $t)
example
t=$(timer)
copy /dev/null /dev/zero
printf 'Elapsed time: %s\n' $(timer $t)
Greetings
Josep
El vie, 19-03-2010 a las 10:19 -0700, Mike McClain escribió:
> I've written a function to print elapsed time similar to /usr/bin/time
> but can be called at the beginning and end of a script from within
> the script. Occasionally I get an error: '8-08: value too great for base'
> It's caused by the difference in these 2 command strings but I can't for
> the life of me see what's going on.
>
> now='09:07:16'; startHr=${now%%:*}; startHR=${startHr#*0}; echo $startHr;
> 09
>
> str=09; str=${str#*0}; echo $str;
> 9
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
> --
> Satisfied user of Linux since 1997.
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>
>
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Re: How to read log files
2010/3/28 Dotan Cohen : > Is there a good resource for learning to read log files such as the > kernel log, messages, dmesg, and such? I have been googling but found > nothing really comprehensive yet understandable for a newbie. Where > should I start? > > Thanks! > You can use "tail" console-command, you can do this: tail -f /var/log/messages And this one show you step by step the log line. > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://bido.com > http://what-is-what.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/880dece01003280911p5718199fna6c24b90071ad...@mail.gmail.com > > -- ceduardo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c068e3701003290650x7aey5ae15e7688fc4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, ceduardo wrote: > 2010/3/28 Dotan Cohen : >> Is there a good resource for learning to read log files such as the >> kernel log, messages, dmesg, and such? I have been googling but found >> nothing really comprehensive yet understandable for a newbie. Where >> should I start? >> >> Thanks! >> > You can use "tail" console-command, you can do this: > tail -f /var/log/messages > And this one show you step by step the log line. >> -- >> Dotan Cohen >> We are still supporting this guy, even though it appears he is not running Debian? -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003290654q7f580276n965123b93b38d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to read log files
On 28.3.2010 19:11, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Is there a good resource for learning to read log files such as the > kernel log, messages, dmesg, and such? I have been googling but found > nothing really comprehensive yet understandable for a newbie. Where > should I start? > As has been said, Google is maybe the best answer here. I doubt there is any comprehensive tutorial, because (while the log file has some - logger dependent - format), the messages themselves are not standardized. Each and every application (including Linux kernel) has it's own messages, and if Googling the message (with the app name added to the query) does not help; there is always the source code *horror*. Indeed, while I try to use Debian packaged applications, I remember having downloaded the source code and tried to understand what the code is trying to do. While this may sound horrendous, it is IMHO still miles better than what we have in Windows. Windows log messages are usually totally bizarre, and there is in most cases not anything in Google, nor source code available. Understanding log files is - while not art - sometimes hard labor. Google, mailing lists, Usenet, those are good to have. Often some one else has seen the same message, and internet remembers. It has quite good memory, and it does not pay much to ask. If you still insist, and want to be the über authority and master of all log messages, feel free to begin your journey. Such a master most certainly will get paid as a system admin, and enjoy great salary! -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ If you laid all of our laws end to end, there would be no end. -- Mark Twain signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ad blocking squid
On 29.3.2010 8:17, Glenn English wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2010, at 7:42 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >> Jozsef Vadkan wrote: >>> Can anyone post a link to a good howto, how to set up a transparent >>> squid proxy, that can filter ads? >> >> I suggest that you try Privoxy. No need for a HOWTO: just install the >> Debian package. > > ... and point your browser at port 8118... > > I don't remember how I did it, but I followed an instruction in either > squid's or privoxy's FAQ and got them daisy-chained. I go to squid's port and > it goes through privoxy. Works good... > > Oh, wait. That's not transparent. You'll need a redirect rule in the packet > filter on the proxy host. And make it the proxy host the default route. And > make the real router to the Internet the default route on the proxy host... > Are you sure it has to be transparent??? > I once toyed with squid (transparent) chained with privoxy, and it worked quite well. But I removed them, as I use Windows as my workstation and there is Proxomitron which is better for my tastes. But, if using Linux, the squid/privoxy might be in use. Privoxy (I think) can not play as a transparent proxy, but Squid can, and it can be chained with Privoxy. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:54:40 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > We are still supporting this guy, even though it appears he is not > running Debian? I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and productive) Debian user. Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.29.14.39...@gmail.com
Re: ad blocking squid
On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > Privoxy (I think) can not play as a transparent proxy, but Squid can, > and it can be chained with Privoxy. > Why not? If privoxy's running on a host acting as a gateway, with a redirect in the packet filter, what could possibly go wrong? > -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3d78e1ea-a8d3-40c9-adf8-53c0a8fce...@slsware.com
[SOLVED] nic issue on Debian Lenny
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:17:53 -0400 (EDT), Roman Gelfand wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:16:59 -0400 (EDT), Roman Gelfand wrote: >>> >>> My server has two onboard nics. I am using etho. For the longest >>> time it was working no problem. Then it just lost network >>> connectivity. When running ifconfig I get RX packets:0. >>> >>> Would any one know a way to fix it? I had similar problem with >>> centos. The solution there was to assign eth1 device to alias eth0. >> >> Each network adapter (I assume they are both ethernet) has a >> MAC (Media Access Control) address built-in to it. This MAC >> address is assigned by the manufacturer when the board is made, and >> is unique to that physical board. Another board of that same identical >> make and model will have a different MAC address. Linux uses this MAC >> address to uniquely identify Ethernet adapters. udev creates rules to >> determine which MAC address to assign to eth0, which MAC address to assign >> to eth1, etc. These rules are stored in directory /etc/udev/rules.d. >> The exact name of the file to look at is dependent on the machine >> architecture and which release of udev you have, but >> "persistent-net" is the key phrase to look for. On my Debian Lenny >> machine for the i386 architecture, the file is called >> 70-persistent-net.rules. >> >> Typically, this type of problem happens >> when one of the ethernet adapters is replaced. In the case of an >> ethernet adapter built-in to the motherboard, that would mean >> that the motherboard gets replaced. Or sometimes it happens >> as the result of moving a hard drive from one computer to another, >> which, as viewed by the operating system stored on that hard drive, >> means that the NICs changed. In the case of a stand-alone NIC >> you can move the old NIC to the new machine, but in the case of >> a NIC built-in to the motherboard, you would need to swap motherboards >> to keep the MAC address the same, and most people don't do that. >> >> In any event, the solution is to edit that file >> (/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules) and change the MAC >> addresses in that file according to which one you want to be eth0 >> and which one you want to be eth1. In the case of a computer >> with only one network connection, I usually advise people to erase >> that file, it which case it will be regenerated at the next boot >> with eth0 assigned to the one and only MAC address. But in the >> case of multiple adapters, I advise people to edit the file. >> >> ifconfig -a >> >> will show you the MAC addresses of the cards currently present >> in the machine (look for "HWaddr"). Compare that to the MAC >> addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. From >> that you should be able to figure out which MAC address belongs >> to the old card that is no longer installed and which "device" >> it used to be. Change the entry for the new card to match that >> device name and delete the entry for the old MAC address. Then, >> shutdown and reboot. >> > > Thanks you. That has worked great for me. You're welcome. I'm glad you got it working. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/463160059.66141269874354744.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: ad blocking squid
On 29.3.2010 17:52, Glenn English wrote: > > On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > >> Privoxy (I think) can not play as a transparent proxy, but Squid can, >> and it can be chained with Privoxy. > >> > > Why not? If privoxy's running on a host acting as a gateway, with a redirect > in the packet filter, what could possibly go wrong? > >> > Well, I Googled, and it seems that Privoxy CAN do that. http://www.privoxy.org/faq/configuration.html#INTERCEPTING -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:54:40 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > >> We are still supporting this guy, even though it appears he is not >> running Debian? > > I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and > productive) Debian user. > > Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. > > Greetings, > You don't think that the ubuntu-users mailing list would be more appropriate? debian.org lists the following as "based on Debian": Collax Damn Small Linux Debian JP Embedded Debian, http://www.emdebian.org/ Euronode, http://euronode.org/ Floppix, http://floppix.ccai.com/ Gibraltar GNUstep LIVE CD, http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/ grml Kanotix, http://www.kanotix.com/ KNOPPIX, http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ Linspire, http://www.linspire.com/ Linex MEPIS, http://www.mepis.org/ M.N.I.S. OCERA, http://www.mnis.fr/en/products/ Morphix PureOS RAYS LX Stonegate Ubuntu Univention Corporate Server Xandros Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003290810r3c34213fif1848fe073efe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ad blocking squid
On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > Well, I Googled, and it seems that Privoxy CAN do that. Thanks, Jari. I'm getting ready to build a DIY firewall, and I've been planning to do exactly that. -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5c799906-f06c-40f5-97bc-0247311b8...@slsware.com
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and >> productive) Debian user. >> >> Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. >> >> >> > You don't think that the ubuntu-users mailing list would be more > appropriate? debian.org lists the following as "based on Debian": > > Collax > Damn Small Linux > Debian JP (...) > > Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? The question the user posted fits with Debian (and many other distributions) and can be of interest for many of us, so, yes, I think there is no problem to support (or offering advice) these kind of questions. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.29.15.18...@gmail.com
Open Source E-mail, shared calendar, public folders etc....
I am looking to setup some form of groupware as a bit of an experiment at home. What I would like to do is get close to the features of M$ Exchange using open source software. I am aware of a few packages such as Scalix, Zimbra, Citadel & some others which would do this and would be free for the number of users I have but have not tried any yet. So to sum up requirements: Exchange features: E-mail, shared calendars, public folders Initially small number of users: 5 Evolution client support. Nice to have: OpenLDAP integration. So I am just looking for input from people in the group who have done this before and can offer recommendations based on their experiences with these or any other packages. I am totally open on how to go about doing this so if using various components rather than a single package would be better I am up for that. Gav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ri3sn.40612$nh1.28...@newsfe14.iad
Re: How to read log files
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:38:14 +0200 Javier Barroso wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find > >> someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read > >> it, too. > >> > > > > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the > > list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. > > My 2 cents: read and understand log messages when you are in trouble, > if system is working well, you don't need understand these logs. I think that, on the contrary, it's very important to get familiar with the system's logs under normal conditions. This way, when you do have a problem, you'll know what's normal and what are the important lines. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329112922.54fac8f3.cele...@gmail.com
[OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:54:40 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: >>> >>> We are still supporting this guy, even though it appears he is not >>> running Debian? >> >> I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and >> productive) Debian user. >> >> Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. > > You don't think that the ubuntu-users mailing list would be more > appropriate? debian.org lists the following as "based on Debian": > > Collax > Damn Small Linux > Debian JP > Embedded Debian, http://www.emdebian.org/ > Euronode, http://euronode.org/ > Floppix, http://floppix.ccai.com/ > Gibraltar > GNUstep LIVE CD, http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/ > grml > Kanotix, http://www.kanotix.com/ > KNOPPIX, http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > Linspire, http://www.linspire.com/ > Linex > MEPIS, http://www.mepis.org/ > M.N.I.S. OCERA, http://www.mnis.fr/en/products/ > Morphix > PureOS > RAYS LX > Stonegate > Ubuntu > Univention Corporate Server > Xandros > > Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? That's not even an exhaustive list. According to DistroWatch.com, there are, at the time of this writing, 253 distributions based on Debian -- far more than any other distribution! Some of these distributions are now defunct of course, but still that's a *huge* number! http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=All&origin=All&basedon=Debian&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=All We can't possibly support them all here. I agree with Jordan. I'm not trying to be unkind, but each distribution is responsible for its own support. If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; but I try to direct users of other distributions to their own organization's help forums. There are too many subtle differences between all the distributions. Advice that I may give based on my experience with Debian may not work, or even cause problems, on other distributions; and since I don't use any other distribution, I would have no way of knowing that. That's my two cents worth. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1276593306.80891269877650598.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:47:30 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) >> Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? > > That's not even an exhaustive list. According to DistroWatch.com, there > are, at the time of this writing, 253 distributions based on Debian -- > far more than any other distribution! Some of these distributions are > now defunct of course, but still that's a *huge* number! > > http://distrowatch.com/search.php? category=All&origin=All&basedon=Debian&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=All > > We can't possibly support them all here. I agree with Jordan. I'm not > trying to be unkind, but each distribution is responsible for its own > support. If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; Thanks for your understanding. BTW, I'm "her" :-) I'm always glad to help users requesting help, even more if they are "long-term" Linux users such I think is the OP as I read him before in another linux lists and also here, in this debian user list. > but I try to > direct users of other distributions to their own organization's help > forums. There are too many subtle differences between all the > distributions. Advice that I may give based on my experience with > Debian may not work, or even cause problems, on other distributions; and > since I don't use any other distribution, I would have no way of knowing > that. > > That's my two cents worth. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.29.16.08...@gmail.com
Re: How to read log files
On Monday 29 March 2010 16:18:12 Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and > >> productive) Debian user. > >> > >> Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. > > > > You don't think that the ubuntu-users mailing list would be more > > appropriate? debian.org lists the following as "based on Debian": > > > > Collax > > Damn Small Linux > > Debian JP > > (...) > > > Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? > > The question the user posted fits with Debian (and many other > distributions) and can be of interest for many of us, so, yes, I think > there is no problem to support (or offering advice) these kind of > questions. I have certainly benefitted from the question and its answers. And Debian is my distro of choice. I would take semantic exception to the questions about "we" supporting him; since Jordan is most certainly not supporting Dotan, and the first person is therefore inaccurate and inappropriate. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003291710.03053.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Conclusion: problem installing grub-legacy
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:57:04 -0700, Freeman wrote: >> I don't want Grub2/Grub-PC, etc, but get upgraded to it. Now >> I can't go back, because grub-common is listed as a dependency of grub- >> legacy. But the grub-common package has been upgraded for use with >> version 2 only. >> > I posted this past week about grub-common confusion that turned a simple > legacy install into a long session. Grub-common rides in with legacy > and makes an /etc/grub.d directory and scatters files all over the > /boot/grub directory, including grub.cfg . But then it just sits there > and tries to look like Grub-PC is installed. Yes, I saw that. In fact, you can see that my words are borrowed from yours, :-) Just that I wasn't sure of the solution. > My system still boots off /boot/grub/menu.lst, kernel updates and > update-grub still modify menu.lst, ^c still drops into a grub 0.97 > terminal from the boot menu. > > I did another legacy install last night. I do think I remember getting > Grub-PC in some dependency resolution, but I was able to remove it and > install legacy without forcing anything. OK, thanks for the explanation. FYI, I hate grub-common messing up with my /boot/grub and /etc/grub.d directory, so I'll use 'equivs' to create a dummy packages to circumvent such silly package dependencies. equivs - Circumvent Debian package dependencies "This package provides a tool to create Debian packages that only contain dependency information". HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hoqjia$os...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:08:52 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:47:30 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; ... > Thanks for your understanding. BTW, I'm "her" :-) Oops! Sorry. With non-English names, I can't always tell. (Actually, there are some English names where I can't always tell either.) -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/971315489.90951269880067174.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
> I have certainly benefitted from the question and its answers. And Debian is > my distro of choice. > > I would take semantic exception to the questions about "we" supporting him; > since Jordan is most certainly not supporting Dotan, and the first person is > therefore inaccurate and inappropriate. > > Lisi My reference to "we" was a reference to the Debian community, which I consider myself a part of. I am a regular supporter on the #debian channel on irc.freenode.net. I can not count the number of times that I have began to help a user, only to find out their problem is specific to . While I agree that this particular issue is very general to Linux itself, people still need to learn to seek help from the appropriate communities. Just as a small indication of how often this occurs in #debian, here is a factinfo comparison to "nvidia": 12:27 ubuntu -- last modified at Wed Feb 13 17:17:41 2008 by weasel!wea...@weasel.chair.oftc.net; it has been requested 1261 times, last by rudi_s, 2h 52m 42s ago 12:28 nvidia -- last modified at Sun Sep 20 20:45:26 2009 by themill!~stu...@themill.user.oftc.net; it has been requested 3207 times, last by remmy, 1d 50m 29s ago. The "ubuntu" factoid is generally presented to direct a user to get help at the appropriate channel (#ubuntu). --- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003290929ic4cc39cy80a8ead098c53...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 17:29:26 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > While I agree that this particular issue is very general > to Linux itself, That is really the point that I was making. > people still need to learn to seek help from the > appropriate communities. I actually agree in general. Asking for help with a CentOS, RH specific problem here is a waste of everyone's time, including the OP's. But in this specific case, I know that Dotan does in fact belong to, at least, the Kubuntu list. And this question was generally applicable, anyhow to deb-based distros; of general interest, anyhow to me ;-)) ; and more likely to be answered helpfully here. And I am in a semantically nit-picking mood. :-( I have just spent a weekend immersed in modern teenage argot. Since when was "wicked" a term of approbation?? And "cool" high praise?? As for KKL, I needed a translation. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003291751.08306.lisi.re...@gmail.com
No updates seen in a while
Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? Stuart
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:05 -0400, S Scharf wrote: > Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and follow-ups on debian-devel. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon,29.Mar.10, 13:05:18, S Scharf wrote: > Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and the follow-ups on debian-devel. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No updates seen in a while
S Scharf wrote: Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? Stuart http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb0e1a1.7090...@gmail.com
Re: No updates seen in a while
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,29.Mar.10, 13:05:18, S Scharf wrote: Anyone know why there hasn't been any testing updates since March 25th? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html and the follow-ups on debian-devel. Regards, Andrei debian-user rocks. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb0e419.10...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: > As for KKL, I needed a translation. This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition from home tonight. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1723124784.111841269884669531.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Conclusion: problem installing grub-legacy
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:12:58PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:57:04 -0700, Freeman wrote: > > >> I don't want Grub2/Grub-PC, etc, but get upgraded to it. Now > >> I can't go back, because grub-common is listed as a dependency of grub- > >> legacy. But the grub-common package has been upgraded for use with > >> version 2 only. > >> > > I posted this past week about grub-common confusion that turned a simple > > legacy install into a long session. Grub-common rides in with legacy > > and makes an /etc/grub.d directory and scatters files all over the > > /boot/grub directory, including grub.cfg . But then it just sits there > > and tries to look like Grub-PC is installed. > > Yes, I saw that. In fact, you can see that my words are borrowed from > yours, :-) Just that I wasn't sure of the solution. > Right, missed that. Good choice of words. :-) ... > > FYI, I hate grub-common messing up with my /boot/grub and /etc/grub.d > directory, so I'll use 'equivs' to create a dummy packages to circumvent > such silly package dependencies. > > equivs - Circumvent Debian package dependencies > > "This package provides a tool to create Debian packages that only > contain dependency information". > Noted, and thanks. I learn more than just one thing daily on this list. (Which is easy given my starting point.) -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329174726.ga27...@europa.office
Installing Debian into an existing encrypted volume with lvm
Hi! Is it possible to install Debian (lenny or squeeze) into an existing encrypted volume (partition or raid with lukscrypt) which contains a lvm with an existing installation of debian which shouldn't be deleted? The testing-installer in expert-mode has only two options to configure encrypted volumes: "Create encrypted volumes" and "Finish". Both don't let me add an existing encrypted volume to add a logical volume to install into. Is it possible to install at all in this situation, or do I have to backup - install - restore? Timo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329171115.ga4...@spinnennetz.org
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:17:48 +0200 Wolodja Wentland wrote: Hello Wolodja, > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html > and follow-ups on debian-devel. Just throwing this out as an idea; Wouldn't it make sense to cc such announcements to the users list? Shutting down the repositories, I would have thought, was of major importance to all of us. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's only the children of the --- wealthy tend to be good looking Ugly - The Stranglers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:58:29 -0400 (EDT), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:17:48 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html >> and follow-ups on debian-devel. > > Just throwing this out as an idea; > > Wouldn't it make sense to cc such announcements to the users list? > Shutting down the repositories, I would have thought, was of major > importance to all of us. The repositories have not been shut down. All the Debian mirrors still work. It's only ftpmaster.debian.org that has been shut down. And by Debian policy, only primary Debian mirrors are supposed to access that server. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1175263136.118231269886045814.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [WOT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 01:44:29PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: > > As for KKL, I needed a translation. > > This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL > Eew. -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329181701.ga3...@europa.office
Re: Wireless on BCM4315 with 2.6.32
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 28 Mar 2010, godo wrote: Did you maybe try this: http://wiki.debian.org/wl For me it works in the way that wifi card is live but how i said I cannot connect to anything that have any encryption. Thanks very much - yes, it worked! (I had to manually do "ifdown eth1 ; ifup eth1", which is something I've encountered previously.) You're welcome. I'm glad that your WiFi work! Did you maybe try connect to WEP or WAP encrypted network? If yes any success? -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb0efcd.3040...@dobosevic.com
GUI for IPv6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I recently (finally!) got an IPv6-functional router, and now IPv6 is native. Two systems are utilizing IPv6 through configuration of /etc/network/interfaces, but on others WICD does not support IPv6. Yet. Anyway, WICD is the only networking GUI I've used that worked for me, but is there another that handles IPv6? Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS7DsSC9Y35yItIgBAQLzPAf/c2flopnDJ3QGyudr2eZNxns1pOD4syy1 a3gHveMiz6keSHe7U73cxDcfAb6bFGTTGP5TwE3ADVHLOmY9Gw3WPnCny+cU/7OB iKHG4jr7XYy1Jb9h8GNCrWVVGPlnOZFHU7RAcDWtHELqzqxF9xfG0ilONbuQETNz 5vZWo0xLB6PyVmPEy9u+8X65uEplgCJalNA9BcyOdW9nsmRYyezQHCL2MjZlw+uk Ewpb0iZTL5RYYr4CrpgomFd0M4qia3bWgYWwV16ywvzTV+kpVjFIiJJGUu5f7M7N pj9uGK0bSMaVGbdm3UDG3I0l67LNmL60BqzcG5M3k94aImvENeR0dA== =feQk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003291407.10917.howl...@priss.com
Re: GUI for IPv6
Curt Howland wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I recently (finally!) got an IPv6-functional router, and now IPv6 is native. Two systems are utilizing IPv6 through configuration of /etc/network/interfaces, but on others WICD does not support IPv6. Yet. Anyway, WICD is the only networking GUI I've used that worked for me, but is there another that handles IPv6? Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS7DsSC9Y35yItIgBAQLzPAf/c2flopnDJ3QGyudr2eZNxns1pOD4syy1 a3gHveMiz6keSHe7U73cxDcfAb6bFGTTGP5TwE3ADVHLOmY9Gw3WPnCny+cU/7OB iKHG4jr7XYy1Jb9h8GNCrWVVGPlnOZFHU7RAcDWtHELqzqxF9xfG0ilONbuQETNz 5vZWo0xLB6PyVmPEy9u+8X65uEplgCJalNA9BcyOdW9nsmRYyezQHCL2MjZlw+uk Ewpb0iZTL5RYYr4CrpgomFd0M4qia3bWgYWwV16ywvzTV+kpVjFIiJJGUu5f7M7N pj9uGK0bSMaVGbdm3UDG3I0l67LNmL60BqzcG5M3k94aImvENeR0dA== =feQk -END PGP SIGNATURE- I don't necessarily like it or use it, but it seems that at least in Fedora there is IPv6 support for NetworkManager[1] . Someone with more knowledge than me shoudl be able to tell you if this feature is imported to Debian. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerIPv6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb0f1e2.5040...@gmail.com
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:07:25 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell wrote:
Hello Stephen,
> The repositories have not been shut down. All the Debian mirrors
Sorry, poor wording on my part.
However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}.
It's not just the developers that are affected by such problems as
ftpmaster.debian.org being partially incapacitated, albeit temporarily.
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Re: How to read log files
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:38:14 +0200 > Javier Barroso wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> Why don't you just post what you've got? You will most probably find >> >> someone who can explain not only where the problem is but how to read >> >> it, too. >> >> >> > >> > In the general sense my intention was to learn and not lazy-web the >> > list. But you are right, attached is /var/log/messages. >> >> My 2 cents: read and understand log messages when you are in trouble, >> if system is working well, you don't need understand these logs. > > I think that, on the contrary, it's very important to get familiar with > the system's logs under normal conditions. This way, when you do have > a problem, you'll know what's normal and what are the important lines. That is correct too, logs he sent was kernel logs. kernel logs are "generally" difficult to understand (they are hardware related) and in normal conditions they won't tell you nothing important until you want "play" with the system deeper However, application logs are easier to understand (I think) and it is good reading it like you said Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/81c921f31003291204mba09425r13402b2830814...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problem installing grub-legacy
Stephen Powell wrote: >Aren't you glad you use Dial? Don't you wish everybody did? > > s/Dial/lilo/ Given that I have in the past spent up to 2 days remotely walking family members through fixing machines that booted to "LI" or "LIL" .. no. I only wish lilo on enemies -- but still prefer enemies use soap. > But seriously, it's obvious that somebody messed up with the package > dependencies. There's not much point in having a grub-legacy package > if it can't be installed, now is there? Except that's is clearly not the case that grub-legacy cannot be installed, if you actually look at the dependencies of grub-common. I have grub-legacy installed here, works fine. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ad blocking squid
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:41:32 -0400, Andrew Winnenberg wrote: > I haven't used it myself, but the adzapper package appears to be an > ad-blocker for squid. adzapper isn't bad, but it's not terribly high performance, either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/nla787xunb@ursa-major.network.ursamundi.org
Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 18:44:29 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: > > As for KKL, I needed a translation. > > This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL > > It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now > because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good > sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, > Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me > curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition > from home tonight. I asked my teenager for the definition at the time. She says that KKL= O.K. KooL, which again being translated means: I agree and I approve, or O.K, I think that that is a good idea. She says they all in fact just say K for OK anyway!! I can certainly concur that the beginnings and ends of words seem to be entirely voluntary - and it is not entirely because I am going deaf! But, as you say, this is way OT. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003292109.47964.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: ad blocking squid
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:17:43 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > On Mar 28, 2010, at 7:42 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >> Jozsef Vadkan wrote: >>> Can anyone post a link to a good howto, how to set up a transparent >>> squid proxy, that can filter ads? >> >> I suggest that you try Privoxy. No need for a HOWTO: just install the >> Debian package. > > ... and point your browser at port 8118... > > I don't remember how I did it, but I followed an instruction in either > squid's or privoxy's FAQ and got them daisy-chained. I go to squid's > port and it goes through privoxy. Works good... My rationale for using ufdbguard is that it uses the same rule files as squidguard, but has negligible impact on browsing performance. The latter part was more important, since most of the adblockers, including browser plugins, are dog slow. Here's the rules I've come up with so far, though they evolve a little bit over time: domains: openx.org teljari.is starwave.com dolanadserver.com openx.pmgnews.com ads.thesmokinggun.com awltovhc.com buysellads.com media.graytvinc.com ads.nntest2.com adtech.de tremormedia.com adecn.com admanage.wescompapers.com fwmrm.net publicus.com rubiconproject.com zedo.com ventivmedia.com media.etology.com ca.mybroadband.co.za banners.moreniche.com juicyads.com burstnet.com adserver.uproxx.com banners.webmasterplan.com snap.com fastclick.net dashboardad.net infolinks.com bidvertiser.com blogads.com overture.com yieldmanager.net us.bc.yahoo.com adshuffle.com chitika.com chitika.net 3ps.go.com hopfeed.com clickbank.net clickbank.com adjuggler.com adsys.townnews.com banners.thestranger.com industrybrains.com adwhirl.com firstlightera.com bst.reedbusiness.com adcontent.reedbusiness.com admob.com pinchmedia.com ads11.net mediaplex.com adbrite.com kontera.com adserver.yahoo.com projectwonderful.com adcast.deviantart.com questionmarket.com safecount.net serving-sys.com sitestat.com specificclick.net trafficmp.com travidia.com tribalfusion.com webtrendslive.com wowzio.com wunderloop.net adblade.com adbureau.net addynamix.com adfrontiers.com adtech.com bridgetrack.com clearspring.com collective-media.net contextweb.com eloqua.com fathomseo.com hubspot.com ibatom.com ibsys.com loomia.com makinglocalwork.com rad.msn.com newstogram.com adlinks.startribune.com adserv.postbulletin.com pulse360.com bwp.zdnetasia.com 911adnetwork.com gcion.com adtechus.com yldmgrimg.net adsonar.com adultfriendfinder.com aserver.serverlords.com wsod.com tumri.net tumri.com ox.furaffinity.net googleadservices.com adlog.com.com advertising.com quantserv.com 247realmedia.com collective-media.com admeld.com afy11.net pointroll.com undertone.com adsyndication.msn.com tacoda.net casalemedia.com intellitxt.com pagead2.googlesyndication.com doubleclick.net doubleclick.com yieldmanager.com adbasket.net atdmt.com 2mdn.net rmxads.com imrworldwide.com expressions: .*(/|&|open|web)(A|a)d(1|x|s|vertorials|channel|Img)(\.|=|_|/).* .*files\.platformnation\.com/logos/.* .*ai\.php.* .*banner.* .*ads\..* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/vga787xunb@ursa-major.network.ursamundi.org
Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 18:44:29 Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: >> > As for KKL, I needed a translation. >> >> This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: >> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL >> >> It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now >> because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good >> sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, >> Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me >> curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition >> from home tonight. > > I asked my teenager for the definition at the time. She says that KKL= O.K. > KooL, which again being translated means: I agree and I approve, or O.K, I > think that that is a good idea. She says they all in fact just say K for OK > anyway!! I can certainly concur that the beginnings and ends of words seem > to be entirely voluntary - and it is not entirely because I am going deaf! > > But, as you say, this is way OT. Certainly, more OT than any ubuntu/debian question ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ab7b49bc1003291312y30d2va091600d7ddbe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 21:12:59 Neal Hogan wrote: > > But, as you say, this is way OT. > > Certainly, more OT than any ubuntu/debian question ;-) Quite :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003292128.53461.lisi.re...@gmail.com
PPP MTU on an Ethernet link.
Observed Phenomenon The interface from a Squeeze Linux router to an ISP cable modem, configured with this line in /etc/network/interfaces, has MTU = 1500. iface eth0 inet dhcp Good; just as expected. For Lenny, the same /etc/network/interfaces yields MTU = 576. Very odd. This value should exist for a ppp link and not for an eth link. If a D-Link DI-614+ is inserted between Lenny and the cable modem, then MTU = 1500. Background Factors I prefer to keep Lenny on the machine until Squeeze becomes more reliable. Configuration will be more difficult if the D-Link router remains permanently. Failed Solution According to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_setting_mtu I adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to this. iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname "joule" pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500 Still the wrong MTU is set. pe...@joule:~$ ip link show eth0 3: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOW N qlen 1000 link/ether 00:50:ba:52:79:1c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Questions Can anyone explain why the dhcp negotiation in Lenny results in MTU = 576? Is there any practical way to get 1500? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Google pathology workshop. In ETHNO, click here -> Desktops.OpenDoc "http://carnot.yi.org";. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056445.55354.417...@heaviside.invalid
Re: problem installing grub-legacy
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT), Joey Hess wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >>Aren't you glad you use Dial? Don't you wish everybody did? >> >> s/Dial/lilo/ > > Given that I have in the past spent up to 2 days remotely walking family > members through fixing machines that booted to "LI" or "LIL" .. no. > I only wish lilo on enemies -- but still prefer enemies use soap. Interesting. I've been using Linux for 10 years, and I've never seen, or even heard of, the error you describe. I'm sorry your family members had trouble with it. For me, it has always worked perfectly. >> But seriously, it's obvious that somebody messed up with the package >> dependencies. There's not much point in having a grub-legacy package >> if it can't be installed, now is there? > > Except that's is clearly not the case that grub-legacy cannot be > installed, if you actually look at the dependencies of grub-common. I > have grub-legacy installed here, works fine. The OP claimed that he could not install. I took his word for it. But he has subsequently found a way to circumvent his problems. I'm glad he found a way to do what he wanted to do. But I frankly don't see why grub-legacy requires grub-common. It brings in a lot of unnecessary files, from what I can see. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1370107920.167581269895486703.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: No updates seen in a while
Brad writes:
> However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}.
> It's not just the developers that are affected by such problems as
> ftpmaster.debian.org being partially incapacitated, albeit
> temporarily.
The "announce" lists are not just for developers.
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Re: PPP MTU on an Ethernet link.
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:32 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Observed Phenomenon > The interface from a Squeeze Linux router to > an ISP cable modem, configured with this line > in /etc/network/interfaces, has MTU = 1500. > iface eth0 inet dhcp > Good; just as expected. > > For Lenny, the same /etc/network/interfaces > yields MTU = 576. Very odd. This value > should exist for a ppp link and not for an > eth link. > > If a D-Link DI-614+ is inserted between Lenny > and the cable modem, then MTU = 1500. > > Background Factors > I prefer to keep Lenny on the machine until > Squeeze becomes more reliable. Configuration > will be more difficult if the D-Link router > remains permanently. > > Failed Solution > According to > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_setting_mtu > I adjusted /etc/network/interfaces to this. > iface eth0 inet dhcp > hostname "joule" > pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500 IIRC, you should be able to tweak the MTU after the link comes up. Perhaps trying 'post-up' instead. > > Still the wrong MTU is set. > pe...@joule:~$ ip link show eth0 > 3: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast state > UNKNOW > N qlen 1000 > link/ether 00:50:ba:52:79:1c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > > Questions > Can anyone explain why the dhcp negotiation > in Lenny results in MTU = 576? It may be a path MTU discovery. -- Matt Zagrabelny - mzagr...@d.umn.edu - (218) 726 8844 University of Minnesota Duluth Information Technology Systems & Services PGP key 4096R/42A00942 2009-12-16 Fingerprint: 5814 2CCE 2383 2991 83FF C899 07E2 BFA8 42A0 0942 He is not a fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. -Jim Elliot signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon,29.Mar.10, 19:46:21, Brad Rogers wrote:
> However, I reckon notification here would be a Good Thing{tm}.
>
> It's not just the developers that are affected by such problems as
> ftpmaster.debian.org being partially incapacitated, albeit temporarily.
IMHO: this does not affect stable users (ftp-master is not
security-master)[1] and testing/unstable users should be subscribed to
debian-devel-announce. It's low-traffic enough to not be a burden to
follow.
[1] ok, stable-proposed-updates might be affected (I'm not sure), but
people shouldn't be using those packages until the point release ;)
Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Conclusion: Looking for good dark background GTK themes
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:29:57 +, T o n g wrote: > I like a generally dark theme, > with no high contract, just mild tones, yet everything shows vividly. Detailed conclusion is available at http://sfxpt.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/good-dark-background-gtk2-theme/ -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hor5n9$os...@dough.gmane.org
Re: bash scripting question
Hi Josep, On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 02:28:20PM +0200, Josep M. wrote: > > I found these somewhere time ago. check if is what You need: > Thanks a lot. Though my error was pointed out as a typo and corrected a while back your solution using " date '+%s' " is much more elegant than what I had done. Mike PS: Since I posted to and read the list you needn't email me direct. MM -- Satisfied user of Linux since 1997. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329213536.gb29...@playground.mcclains.net
Re: bash scripting question
On 2010-03-29 16:35, Mike McClain wrote: [snip] Thanks a lot. Though my error was pointed out as a typo and corrected a while back your solution using " date '+%s' " is much more elegant than what I had done. If you want more (possibly too much) precision: $ date +'%s.%N' -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb14146.1060...@cox.net
Bill Merriam seems to have a misconfigured smtp server
http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/misconfigured.smtp.txt Obviously I'd email him directly, but that's not working... -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb144ff.2030...@cox.net
Re: Theoretical drive swapidge.
jeremy jozwik wrote at 2010-03-28 22:05 -0500: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, green wrote: > > Sjoerd mentioned using chroot; are you? Hmm, maybe you need to bind mount > > proc, sys, and dev also... > > i did try a chroot into the external drive per someone else instructions. > > > "Check your device.map" means look at /boot/grub/device.map. It should look > > something like this: > > (hd0) /dev/sda > > yes, it is the same on the smaller drive. basically everything was set > as it was on the previous drive. > > > Perhaps if your new drive is connected externally you should change that to > > sdb, run grub-install, and then change it back... I really am not sure > > about > > that. Did you try with /dev/sdb? > > grub is the bootloader, and runs soon after the BIOS; without it installed > > your > > system will not boot. > > but if it were installed on the copy from drive, shouldn't it then > also be installed on the copy to drive? all the config files were > there. Grub is a bootloader and is installed on the MBR of the hard drive. This is not included when you duplicate partitions. The config files etcetera that you mention are /used/ by grub. > > Also, your laptop might not support booting from USB and booting likely will > > not work through the adapter interface anyway. Of course you might have > > installed the disk in the laptop, in which case the previous paragraph > > applies. > > oddly enough it does. i was poking around in the BIOS this morning and > the usb is indeed a boot option. not what i wanted, but it is there. Are you saying that you booted from a drive that was connected externally via a USB/PATA or USB/SATA adapter? > i have successfully gotten the new larger drive to boot and load up my > old debian configurations. > since i could not get grub-install to work, even with chrooting in, i > ended up installing minimal debian on the empty larger drive > [installed in the system]. > after setting the partitions there and having the installer setup grub > i shut the system down and swaped out the drives. > with the larger drive as external i cp -arv all the folders except > /proc onto the larger externally connected drive. I think that means you were successful; good. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bash scripting question
Here's something I modified as part of a benchmark script called "fdtree".
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#!/bin/bash
# How to use xdate/xtime/persec:
#
# START=$(date "+%s")
# count=10
# xdate
# tin=$(xtime)
#
# # do something time-consuming $count times...
# tout=$(xtime)
# set $(persec $tin $tout $count); ttot=$1; results=$2
# xdate
# echo "TIME IN, OUT, TOTAL = "$tin, $tout, $ttot
# echo -e "\tWork per second = " $results
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
export PATH
function xdate
# Display the date in this form: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:22:06.494
{
set $(date "+%a, %d %b %Y %T %N")
ms=$(echo $6 | cut -c1-3)
echo "$1 $2 $3 $4 $5.$ms"
}
function xtime
# Display elapsed runtime to the millisecond.
{
set $(date "+%s %N")
sec=$(($1 - $START))
ms=$(echo $2 | cut -c1-3)
echo "$sec.$ms"
}
function persec
# args: start-second, finish-second, count-things
# returns elapsed time and things that happened per second
# to the millisecond.
{
start=$1
finish=$2
count=$3
if test "$finish" = "$start"; then
echo "0 0"
else
echo $(echo "scale=3; $finish-$start;
$count/($finish-$start)" | bc)
fi
}
function dbg
# debugging prints
{
test $DEBUG -gt 0 && echo -e "$@"
}
tmp=/tmp/t1$$
tmp2=/tmp/t2$$
xdate
START=$(date "+%s")
tin=$(xtime)
echo
for k in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
do
# Read a short amount of random data.
dd if=/dev/random of=$tmp2 bs=1k count=1 2> /dev/null
# Duplicate it a bunch of times.
cat $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 > $tmp
cat $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp > $tmp2
cat $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 > $tmp
cat $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp $tmp > $tmp2
cat $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 $tmp2 > $tmp
rm $tmp2
# Generate a hash.
md5sum $tmp
ls -l $tmp
rm $tmp
done
echo
count=10
tout=$(xtime)
set $(persec $tin $tout $count); ttot=$1; results=$2
xdate
echo "TIME IN, OUT, TOTAL = "$tin, $tout, $ttot
echo -e "\tWork per second = " $results
exit 0
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makedbm man page incorrect
The man page for makedbm has an error in it: *" makedbm* takes the inputfile and converts it to a ypserv database file. In the moment, GDBM is used as database. Each line of the input file is converted to a single record. All characters up to the first TAB or SPACE are the key, and the rest of the line is the data. *makedbm* does not treat '#' as a special character. " It should read: *makedbm* takes the inputfile and converts it to a ypserv database file. In the moment, GDBM is used as database. Each line of the input file is converted to a single record. All characters up to the first TAB are the key, if there are no TABS present than all characters up to the first SPACE are the key. The rest of the line is the data. *makedbm* does not treat '#' as a special character. Should I send a bug report via reportbug or is there a better way to go about updating this?
why does linux image try to use grub ?
I don't have grub installed, but I _do_ have lilo installed. Should this be a bug report ? you should know that I haven't done a full upgrade in a while, that may be part of the problem. used to be Debian unstable wasn't. It is now :-( Thanks, Brian Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 (2.6.32-9) ... Running depmod. Running update-initramfs. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-amd64 initrd.img(/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-amd64 ) points to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-amd64 (/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-amd64) -- doing nothing at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64.postinst line 400. vmlinuz(/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-amd64 ) points to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-amd64 (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-amd64) -- doing nothing at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64.postinst line 400. Running update-grub. User postinst hook script [update-grub] failed to execute: No such file or directory -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329195455.3d2f5...@windy.deldotd.com
nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
Hi all, gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. the debian package works well for me, however... I'm trying to install some, uh, "stuff" :-), under wine and it's complaining about opengl not being available. some searching leads me to believe that I'm missing opengl 32-bit libs. some searching through the lib directories tends to confirm this. I was wondering if anyone has run into any similar problems. do I need to build the nvidia drivers myself, or is there a magical-mystery package for nvidia which includes the 32-bit drivers. lastly, should I file a wish-list against the nvidia driver package for 32-bit libs (assuming that's what the problem is). Thanks, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329195956.71782...@windy.deldotd.com
OT: Debian Mentors Access
Greetings, Is anyone else getting a Peer's Certificate has been revoked. messages when accessing https://mentors.debian.net/ ? Thanks. -- Regards, Chris "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329205938.254b7...@makeworld.com
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On 2010-03-29 21:59, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Hi all, gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. the debian package works well for me, however... I'm trying to install some, uh, "stuff" :-), under wine and it's complaining about opengl not being available. What exactly? some searching leads me to believe that I'm missing opengl 32-bit libs. You probably need to install some -dev package(s). some searching through the lib directories tends to confirm this. I was wondering if anyone has run into any similar problems. > do I need to build the nvidia drivers myself, or is there a magical-mystery package for nvidia which includes the 32-bit drivers. One of the points of OpenGL is to separate userland from the hardware Some combination of these packages is what you need. "apt-file search" is your friend in this circumstance. $ apt-cache search mesa | grep mesa | grep 'dev ' | cut -d\ -f1 libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libglw1-mesa-dev libosmesa6-dev mesa-common-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev lastly, should I file a wish-list against the nvidia driver package for 32-bit libs (assuming that's what the problem is). -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb16ce4.2070...@cox.net
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
In <20100329195956.71782...@windy.deldotd.com>, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: >gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. > >some searching leads me to believe that I'm missing opengl 32-bit libs. > >some searching through the lib directories tends to confirm this. > >do I need to build the nvidia drivers myself, or is there a >magical-mystery package for nvidia which includes the 32-bit drivers. b...@monster:~% aptitude search nvidia [...] i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary driver 32bit libs [...] b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-ia32 nvidia-glx-ia32: Installed: 190.53-2 Candidate: 190.53-2 Version table: *** 190.53-2 0 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/non-free Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 173.14.09-5 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/non-free Packages 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/non-free Packages Maybe? Make sure you get the version that matches your Xorg driver version. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On 2010-03-29 22:33, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In <20100329195956.71782...@windy.deldotd.com>, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. some searching leads me to believe that I'm missing opengl 32-bit libs. some searching through the lib directories tends to confirm this. do I need to build the nvidia drivers myself, or is there a magical-mystery package for nvidia which includes the 32-bit drivers. b...@monster:~% aptitude search nvidia [...] i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary driver 32bit libs [...] Interesting. -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb17384.9070...@cox.net
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:15:48 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-29 21:59, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. > > > > the debian package works well for me, however... > > > > I'm trying to install some, uh, "stuff" :-), under wine and it's > > complaining about opengl not being available. > > What exactly? > BG II SoA > > One of the points of OpenGL is to separate userland from the hardware sort of. you can, of course, run 3D software only without hardware support, but that makes most games unusable. so without the _nvidia_ 32-bit libs, it ain't gonna work. of course this is a game under wine, so it probably ain't gonna work anyway. > > Some combination of these packages is what you need. "apt-file > search" is your friend in this circumstance. got 'em all. this is a typical problem on 64-bit systems, some app needs a 32-bit library of some sort, and it's not standard, or there's some other problem. this is really a very nvidia specific problem (I think). Sadly, I have to deal with the non-free nvidia driver. Thanks for the suggestions. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329204526.4ae3f...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On 2010-03-29 22:45, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:15:48 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-29 21:59, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Hi all, gotta have 3d accel, so gotta use nvidia proprietary drivers. the debian package works well for me, however... I'm trying to install some, uh, "stuff" :-), under wine and it's complaining about opengl not being available. What exactly? BG II SoA One of the points of OpenGL is to separate userland from the hardware sort of. you can, of course, run 3D software only without hardware support, but that makes most games unusable. so without the _nvidia_ 32-bit libs, it ain't gonna work. of course this is a game under wine, so it probably ain't gonna work anyway. Some combination of these packages is what you need. "apt-file search" is your friend in this circumstance. got 'em all. this is a typical problem on 64-bit systems, some app needs a 32-bit library of some sort, and it's not standard, or there's some other problem. this is really a very nvidia specific problem (I think). Sadly, I have to deal with the non-free nvidia driver. Thanks for the suggestions. Oh, wait. The *Windows* app needs OpenGL? -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb17593.1080...@cox.net
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:33:48 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > b...@monster:~% aptitude search nvidia > [...] > i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary driver 32bit libs > [...] > b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-ia32 > nvidia-glx-ia32: > Installed: 190.53-2 > Candidate: 190.53-2 > Version table: > *** 190.53-2 0 > 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/non-free Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 173.14.09-5 0 > 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/non-free Packages > 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/non-free Packages > > Maybe? Make sure you get the version that matches your Xorg driver > version. Great! Sadly I can't get anything installed, I'm lost in version hell (there seems to be a lot of that going on in unstable right now, I'm having the same problem with kernel stuff). nvidia-glx-ia32 nvidia-glx-ia32: Depends: nvidia-kernel-190.53 but it is not installable E: Broken packages nvidia-kernel-190.53: Package nvidia-kernel-190.53 is not available, but is referred to by another package. then I tried legacy : The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx-ia32: Depends: nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-173.14.25 but it is not installable That's what happens when you live on the edge ;-) THings may right themselves w.r.t to 190.53 and then I can try again. I'd certainly rather try and get 190.53 installed than spend energy on the current version, since it's now labelled legacy. 190.53 is pretty close to the current nvidia driver. meanwhile I've learned most excellenc apt* tricks for package searching. Thanks again ! Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329210712.2956c...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: Theoretical drive swapidge.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, green wrote: > Are you saying that you booted from a drive that was connected externally via > a > USB/PATA or USB/SATA adapter? no, but the option does exist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f8d5d4f31003292107g82cdcf2kbe78db340bf0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:52:51 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Oh, wait. The *Windows* app needs OpenGL? > yes. it comes up saying that opengl32.dll is missing, or something similar. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329212119.36968...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On 2010-03-29 23:21, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:52:51 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: Oh, wait. The *Windows* app needs OpenGL? yes. it comes up saying that opengl32.dll is missing, or something similar. Ah. Is *this* what you're looking for? $ apt-file search opengl32.dll libwine-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so libwine-gl: /usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb17eaf.8000...@cox.net
Linux bridge TCP routing problem
Hello folks I have following setup: DMZ public IP 4 DMZ public IP 3 | Internet---br0, public IP 1 (eth0 is internet side and eth1 is DMZ side) br0:0, public IP 2---nat (eth2)---private IP Problem is that sometimes (a 2-4 times in a day) DMZ public IP 3 cannot make TCP connection to br0:0 public IP 2. The connection is lost from 5 minutes to 5 hours and fixes by itself. Connection can be fixed manually by running command "nmap public IP 2" from DMZ public IP3. ICMP and UDP -protocols works fine. When system is broken and I try to make tcp-connection from DMZ public IP 3 to public IP 2 and dumping eth2, I see some of packets there. When system is working, no those backets can bee seen on eth2. DMZ public IP 3 can connect all the time in other mentioned IP:s. This system went broken when we removed all physdev-things from our firewall and upgraded from etch to lenny. Does anybody have a clue what could cause the broblem or at least what could I do to investigate this problem more? System is Debian Lenny with default kernel 2.6.26-2-686 -Lauri- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/082ae19851cb6ef9852c548143c41206.squir...@ssl.puhti.com
Re: handling removable media without gnome-volume-manager
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 09:58:31PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > That seems like a pretty good system. > > I'm unclear what the order of execution is. Does udev create the event > which invokes automount ? > > and if automount is executed first, how is it getting invoked ? Autofs starts up the automount daemons at bootup. One is configured to use the map file /etc/auto.removable. This is done by adding the following line to /etc/auto.master: /media/auto /etc/auto.removable --timeout=2 --ghost This is a very important detail which I inadvertantly left out of my previoust post. It tells automount to create a directory under /media/auto for each mapping in /etc/auto.removable. My apologies for neglecting to mention it earlier. When a usb or firewire device is plugged-in or unplugged, the rule file I attached earlier checks if it it is a filesystem, and if so runs the script /usr/local/bin/removable_drive_handler which checks if the event is an add or remove, and then adds or removes lines from the autofs map file /etc/auto.removable. It then sends a SIGHUP signal to the automount process causing it to reload the new /etc/auto.removable. Some devices such as my ipod generate spurious device names during plugging, so there's a delayed test of the mountpoint, and if it's bogus autofs will remove it. This script contains more than its fair share of crockery, and could use improvement, but it works for me. dt -- Dave Thayer | Whenever you read a good book, it's like the Denver, Colorado USA | author is right there, in the room talking to d...@thayer-boyle.com | you, which is why I don't like to read | good books. - Jack Handey "Deep Thoughts" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100330041658.ga3...@thayer-boyle.com
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:31:43 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-29 23:21, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:52:51 -0500 > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> > >> Oh, wait. The *Windows* app needs OpenGL? > >> > > > > yes. it comes up saying that opengl32.dll is missing, or something > > similar. > > > > Ah. Is *this* what you're looking for? > > $ apt-file search opengl32.dll > libwine-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so > libwine-gl: /usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so > aha ! and a big thanks to you to :-) I hate it when I make a bad assumption. I figured that wine was using the linux opengl libs in some way, and it probably is, but it sure is going to need that shim. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329214825.2f7b7...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: OT: Debian Mentors Access
I get this too. On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:59:38 -0500 Chris wrote: > Greetings, > > Is anyone else getting a Peer's Certificate has been revoked. > messages when accessing https://mentors.debian.net/ ? > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > > Chris > > "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the > government fears the people, there is liberty." > >-- Thomas Jefferson > > -- Andreas Rönnquist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100330071313.0e79f7cc.gus...@gusnan.se
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
On 2010-03-29 23:48, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:31:43 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-29 23:21, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:52:51 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: Oh, wait. The *Windows* app needs OpenGL? yes. it comes up saying that opengl32.dll is missing, or something similar. Ah. Is *this* what you're looking for? $ apt-file search opengl32.dll libwine-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so libwine-gl: /usr/lib/wine/opengl32.dll.so aha ! and a big thanks to you to :-) Honestly that was a crap shoot. I was slightly surprised that it actually found something. Anyway, here's the lesson: it takes a minute amount of time and energy to search the Debian repository, so just search it even though it's likely to return zilch. You might actually get lucky... I hate it when I make a bad assumption. I figured that wine was using the linux opengl libs in some way, and it probably is, but it sure is going to need that shim. I think you're right about that... -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb18927.1050...@cox.net
Re: handling removable media without gnome-volume-manager
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:16:59 -0600 Dave Thayer wrote: > Autofs starts up the automount daemons at bootup. One is configured to > use the map file /etc/auto.removable. This is done by adding the > following line to /etc/auto.master: > > /media/auto /etc/auto.removable --timeout=2 --ghost > > This is a very important detail which I inadvertantly left out of my > previoust post. It tells automount to create a directory under > /media/auto for each mapping in /etc/auto.removable. My apologies for > neglecting to mention it earlier. thanks for clarifying. > > When a usb or firewire device is plugged-in or unplugged, the rule > file I attached earlier checks if it it is a filesystem, and if so the rule file is a udev rule file, right ? Doesn't this mean that in the case of a specific device, you can simply match the device exactly and then mount it to a static mount point ? > runs the script /usr/local/bin/removable_drive_handler which checks if > the event is an add or remove, and then adds or removes lines from the > autofs map file /etc/auto.removable. It then sends a SIGHUP signal to > the automount process causing it to reload the > new /etc/auto.removable. > > Some devices such as my ipod generate spurious device names during > plugging, so there's a delayed test of the mountpoint, and if it's > bogus autofs will remove it. > > This script contains more than its fair share of crockery, and could > use improvement, but it works for me. > This seems like one of those problems which should have been solved a long time ago. t's not clear to me why the gnome volume manager doesn't have a command-line backend, as a separate package from what the gui does. Rolling this stuff into something like nautilus is even worse. Thanks again. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100329222318.6646f...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: X: display refreshing just stops
Ron Johnson writes: > On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse. > > When does the freeze *start*? Sometimes when I'm not typing or moving the mouse. Once per 5 minutes perhaps. Usually when something else is going on - for example typing url and waiting for the browser to render the page just to realize that it has done so several seconds ago but display doesn't show it. Sometimes in the middle of window managers menu creation. I can see the whole menu area but it contains only half of the entries. > >> For >> minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything >> else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever >> they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background >> everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I >> touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that >> were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few >> minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :| >> >> I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel >> 845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is >> linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and >> without. >> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. >> > > Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen? YES! In fact I've tested this by going two floors down to server room, login there, ssh from there to my workstation, find that everything works and then come back. Nothing on the screen has changed! > > -- > "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak > or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- -- Perttu Muurimäki perttu.muurim...@iki.fi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877hou2xm8@elisanet.fi
Re: X: display refreshing just stops
On 2010-03-30 00:21, Perttu Muurimäki wrote: Ron Johnson writes: On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote: Hi again, Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse. When does the freeze *start*? Sometimes when I'm not typing or moving the mouse. Once per 5 minutes perhaps. Usually when something else is going on - for example typing url and waiting for the browser to render the page just to realize that it has done so several seconds ago but display doesn't show it. Sometimes in the middle of window managers menu creation. I can see the whole menu area but it contains only half of the entries. For minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :| I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel 845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and without. My first guess is xserver-xorg-video-intel, but I've been wrong before. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen? YES! In fact I've tested this by going two floors down to server room, login there, ssh from there to my workstation, find that everything works and then come back. Nothing on the screen has changed! When that happens again, I'd run back down to the server room, ssh in and tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors. -- "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." Dwight Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bb18fd3.9070...@cox.net
Re: nvidia 32-bit opengl libs
In <20100329210712.2956c...@windy.deldotd.com>, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:33:48 -0600 > >"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: >> i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary driver 32bit libs >> >> Maybe? Make sure you get the version that matches your Xorg driver >> version. > >Sadly I can't get anything installed, I'm lost in version hell (there >seems to be a lot of that going on in unstable right now, I'm having >the same problem with kernel stuff). > >nvidia-glx-ia32 > > nvidia-glx-ia32: Depends: nvidia-kernel-190.53 but it is not > installable E: Broken packages Ah, yes. The missing nvidia-kernel package. Sometimes unstable or testing or both are missing this package, or it is the wrong version. Stable usually has this package, but it is really just a convenience. Debian provides a great tool for out-of-tree kernel modules that are very sensitive to kernel versions. It's called module-assistant. Install the package of the same name via apt-get/aptitude. Now, module-assistant has a lot of features, and I encourage you to read the documentation. However, for the task of installing the nvidia kernel module for your currently running kernel, simply issue the command (m-a a-i nvidia) as root. That *still* might not get your the module you need if you are running a mixed system. This is because m-a depends on module-source packages [1] to provide the source for the out-of-tree module. It will automatically install such packages when they are available, but it just gets the "default" version (whatever apt-get/aptitude chooses by default). It also uses the kernel headers (and maybe source), but it is able to determine what versions of these to get because the kernel ABI is part of the package name. If you need a specific version of the module, install the appropriate module- source package before asking m-a to do the install. E.g. (aptitude install nvidia-kernel-source=190.53-2) You may be able to determine what package that is by reading the m-a logs, searching the web, or possibly reading the files under /var/cache/modass. Here's some information on my system, which I believe has OpenGL support in 32-bit applications run under wine: b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64 nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64: Installed: 190.53-2+2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 Candidate: 190.53-2+2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 Version table: *** 190.53-2+2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-source: Installed: 190.53-2 Candidate: 190.53-2 Version table: *** 190.53-2 0 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/non-free Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 173.14.09-5 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/non-free Packages 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/non-free Packages b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-ia32 nvidia-glx-ia32: Installed: 190.53-2 Candidate: 190.53-2 Version table: *** 190.53-2 0 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/non-free Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 173.14.09-5 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/non-free Packages 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/non-free Packages b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64: Installed: 2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 Candidate: 2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 Version table: *** 2.6.32-9~bpo50+1 0 800 http://127.0.0.1 lenny-backports/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy nvidia-glx nvidia-glx: Installed: 190.53-2 Candidate: 190.53-2 Version table: *** 190.53-2 0 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/non-free Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 173.14.09-5 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/non-free Packages 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/non-free Packages b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy xserver-xorg xserver-xorg: Installed: 1:7.3+20 Candidate: 1:7.3+20 Version table: 1:7.5+5 0 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/main Packages 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/main Packages *** 1:7.3+20 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy wine wine: Installed: 1.0.1-1 Candidate: 1.0.1-1 Version table: 1.1.24-2 0 300 http://127.0.0.1 experimental/main Packages 1.0.1-2 0 700 http://127.0.0.1 testing/main Packages 500 http://127.0.0.1 unstable/main Packages *** 1.0.1-1 0 900 http://127.0.0.1 stable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status HTH. NB: You will need to use m-a to rebuild a new version of the nvidia kernel module whenever you install a kernel with a different ABI. There's no guarantee that m-a will succeed with an "unusual" mix of kernel and module version; my mix (backports kernel with unstable/non-free module) is certainly NOT supported. [1] These are not Debian source packages (.dsc etc.) but Debian binary package
Re: No updates seen in a while
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:32:32 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Hello John, > The "announce" lists are not just for developers. Understood, but not everyone wants to subscribe to YANL (Yet ANother List), even one as low-traffic as dev-announce. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" The public wants what the public gets Going Underground - The Jam signature.asc Description: PGP signature
