Re: OpenVPN débit et ping très lent [Routed]
Yann Coleu a écrit : Étant donné que j'ai un serveur dédié perso, je comptais installer mon propre OpenVPN. Et je l'ai fait, ça marche, mais pas comme je le souhaiterai. En effet, le ping et le débit sont 10x moins bons que sur ma référence de hollande (sur le jeu j'explose le compteur de latence qui bloque à 999ms). Indépendamment du VPN, as-tu évalué la latence et le débit disponibles et les pertes de paquets entre d'une part ton serveur dédié et ton poste client, et d'autre part ton serveur dédié et le serveur de jeu ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa7876.6080...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Problème disque dur USB
Salut, Bzzz a écrit : On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:49:42 -0500 Louis-Philippe Gauthier lpgauth...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai fait un badlocks en root Comme indiqué dans le man, badblocks n'est pas fait pour être utilisé directement. Si. Mais sur un disque brut, pas sur un système de fichiers. # badblocks -v /dev/sdc Vérification des blocs 0 à 976762582 Vérification des blocs défectueux (test en mode lecture seule) : complété Passe complétée, 5 blocs défectueux repérés. 5 blocs sur... 976 millions, ça reste correct. Non, ce n'est pas correct car les données qu'on a eu le malheur d'écrire dans ces secteurs sont perdues. Ce qui serait correct, c'est que les secteurs défectueux aient été automatiquement réalloués par le contrôleur du disque avant de devenir illisibles. Si le système de fichier est de type ext2/3/4, il peut être intéressant de déterminer à quels fichiers ces blocs appartiennent avec debugfs (commande icheck pour trouver les inodes contenant ces blocs puis ncheck pour trouver les chemins correspondants à ces inodes). Il y a moyen d'exécuter smartctl -A sur ce disque ? Ça ne marche pas toujours sur les disques USB. Refaire le test en mode écriture non-destructif (des données ;-) ? Quel intérêt? À moins que le HD n'ait déjà un certain âge. L'intérêt de l'écriture est de pousser la réallocation des secteurs défectueux. Mais je ne sais pas si le mode non destructif écrit justement dans les secteurs illisibles - il n'a pas réussi à lire le contenu, que va-t-il y écrire ? Les blocs défectueux sont indexés et ne seront pas utilisé ? Ça, c'est ce que se serait passé si badblocks avait été utilisé conjointement à mkfs.ext2, 3 ou 4; Si le disque est partitionné, ce n'est pas utilisable directement mais seulement sur une partition contenant un système de fichiers du type concerné, donc, avec l'option -c de mkfs ou fsck. Si c'est une partition de swap, mkswap a bien une option -c mais il n'est pas clair si elle ne fait que vérifier ou si elle met en quarantaine les blocs défectueux détectés. mais je doute qu'un one shot déclenche les mécanismes de swap des secteurs défectueux, si tant est qu'il y ait de tels secteurs. Pour forcer la réallocation des secteurs défectueux par le contrôleur intégré du disque, il faut les détecter (donc essayer de les lire) puis les écrire. badblocs -w (écriture destructive) le fait, mais cela écrase tout le contenu, à moins d'utiliser les bornes de début et fin à partir de la liste des blocs défectueux affichés par l'analyse en lecture seule (faut pas se louper et écraser les données du bloc d'à côté). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa7d91.6080...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Problème disque dur USB
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:03:45 +0100 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: 5 blocs sur... 976 millions, ça reste correct. Non, ce n'est pas correct car les données qu'on a eu le malheur d'écrire dans ces secteurs sont perdues. Ce qui serait correct, c'est que les secteurs défectueux aient été automatiquement réalloués par le contrôleur du disque avant de devenir illisibles. Là-dessus, je ne connais pas le fonctionnement intime du HD, est-ce sa propre logique qui réalloue (et si oui, comment, sur erreurs ed lecture, d'écriture?) ou si la logique en question ne contient que des routines destinées à être appelées par un pgm externe. Refaire le test en mode écriture non-destructif (des données ;-) ? Quel intérêt? À moins que le HD n'ait déjà un certain âge. L'intérêt de l'écriture est de pousser la réallocation des secteurs défectueux. J'entends bien, mais c'est rarement utile si le HD est jeune. Mais je ne sais pas si le mode non destructif écrit justement dans les secteurs illisibles - il n'a pas réussi à lire le contenu, que va-t-il y écrire ? En théorie, tant qu'il n'y a pas eu réallocation et/ou marquage dans la table des secteurs défectueux, il ne tentera d'écrire que s'il a lu sans erreur. Reste à savoir ce qui se passe en cas d'erreur: est-ce que le secteur est réalloué/mis en quarantaine? (j'en doute) ou bien est-ce que juste un averto est émis? concerné, donc, avec l'option -c de mkfs ou fsck. Si c'est une partition de swap, mkswap a bien une option -c mais il n'est pas clair si elle ne fait que vérifier ou si elle met en quarantaine les blocs défectueux détectés. Apparemment non, le temps de formatage entre mkswap -c et mke2fs -c étant sensiblement différent. Par contre, ce que j'aimerais bien savoir, c'est si à la suite d'un mke2fs -c -c on exécute un mkswap, les éventuels secteurs défectueux sont réintégrés comme valides ou non par le mkswap. Pour forcer la réallocation des secteurs défectueux par le contrôleur intégré du disque, il faut les détecter (donc essayer de les lire) puis les écrire. badblocs -w (écriture destructive) le fait, mais cela écrase tout le contenu, à moins d'utiliser les bornes de début et fin à partir de la liste des blocs défectueux affichés par l'analyse en lecture seule (faut pas se louper et écraser les données du bloc d'à côté). '-n' me parait plus approprié, puisqu'il effectue le même test mais sans écraser les données. -- Axel : Ça sert trop a rien de faire des albums pour Haiti... Axel : Ils ont plus rien pour les écouter de toute façon. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119124711.55c97f14@anubis.defcon1
Re: Problème disque dur USB
Le 19/01/2013 12:47, Bzzz a écrit : On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:03:45 +0100 Pascal Hambourgpas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: 5 blocs sur... 976 millions, ça reste correct. Non, ce n'est pas correct car les données qu'on a eu le malheur d'écrire dans ces secteurs sont perdues. Ce qui serait correct, c'est que les secteurs défectueux aient été automatiquement réalloués par le contrôleur du disque avant de devenir illisibles. Là-dessus, je ne connais pas le fonctionnement intime du HD, est-ce sa propre logique qui réalloue (et si oui, comment, sur erreurs ed lecture, d'écriture?) ou si la logique en question ne contient que des routines destinées à être appelées par un pgm externe. Refaire le test en mode écriture non-destructif (des données ;-) ? Quel intérêt? À moins que le HD n'ait déjà un certain âge. L'intérêt de l'écriture est de pousser la réallocation des secteurs défectueux. J'entends bien, mais c'est rarement utile si le HD est jeune. La plupart des disques neufs ont des secteurs défectueux, il est préférable de faire un test en lecture / écriture (destructif) avant de l'utiliser et que ces secteurs soient découverts avant la mise en production. Lorsque je reçois des disques, je créer une partition sur l'ensemble du disque et je fais tourner pendant une journée un script comme : while (true) do mkfs.ext2 -ccv /dev/sda1; done; Ensuite, je le partionne et le format pour son usage. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa90b7.6030...@juliana-multimedia.com
problème affichage écran login
Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre qui fait qu'au démarrage on arrive à un écran de login bizarre : la moitié gauche est normale et la moitié droite est noire avec un pointeur très gros (j'ai une photo de l'écran mais mon envoi de ce matin avec la photo en pièce jointe n'est pas passé). Cet écran de login ressemble fort à un écran pour personnes à accessibilité réduite et je ne sais pas comment faire pour revenir à un écran de login normal. J'ai fait pas mal de recherches sur le web mais rien. Ca fait dejà deux fois que les gamins font le coup et les fois précédentes la seule solution que j'ai trouvée a été de faire une réinstallation ce qui est très bourrin j'en conviens. Si quelqu'un a une - bonne - idée pour revenir à l'écran de login normal et même en plus pour éviter que ce problème se reproduise, je suis preneur. D'avance merci. -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119141025.29fc2...@new-host.home
Re: problème affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:10:25 +0100 Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote: bidouillé un truc bizarre qui fait qu'au démarrage on arrive à un écran de login bizarre : la moitié gauche est normale et la moitié droite est noire avec un pointeur très gros (j'ai une photo de l'écran Ça me dit qq chose, mais trop lointain (je n'utilise plus de display manager depuis longtemps); essaye de vérifier les timestamps des fichiers de conf, parce que si le changement est permanent, c'est que la conf s'est modifié aussi. -- Jean Ma chérie, je t'offre ma bie ! Francine Reste à savoir si t'as remplacé le V par un B ou si t'as juste oublié un T. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119141943.30609761@anubis.defcon1
Re: Problème disque dur USB
Bzzz a écrit : Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Ce qui serait correct, c'est que les secteurs défectueux aient été automatiquement réalloués par le contrôleur du disque avant de devenir illisibles. Là-dessus, je ne connais pas le fonctionnement intime du HD, est-ce sa propre logique qui réalloue Oui. (et si oui, comment, sur erreurs ed lecture, d'écriture?) Les deux. En lecture, il y a deux cas : - le secteur a pu être lu correctement malgré des erreurs (après plusieurs tentatives par exemple), alors il est réalloué et son contenu transféré, il n'y a pas de perte de données donc c'est transparent pour le système hôte ; - le secteur n'a pas pu être lu, alors il est marqué pour être réalloué à la prochaine écriture, mais entendant le secteur est illisible et son contenu est perdu, avec une erreur de lecture remontée au système hôte. L'idéal, c'est de rester dans le premier cas. On peut le voir avec l'augmentation des attributs SMART reallocated, mais les attributs pending restent à zéro. Refaire le test en mode écriture non-destructif (des données ;-) ? Quel intérêt? À moins que le HD n'ait déjà un certain âge. L'intérêt de l'écriture est de pousser la réallocation des secteurs défectueux. J'entends bien, mais c'est rarement utile si le HD est jeune. Je ne vois pas en quoi l'âge du disque entre en ligne de compte. Un disque peut avoir des secteurs défectueux à tout âge, ce n'est pas un signe de vieillissement normal mais un défaut. Pour moi la seule influence de l'âge c'est si le disque est encore sous garantie et dans ce cas il faut la faire jouer. [badblocks] Mais je ne sais pas si le mode non destructif écrit justement dans les secteurs illisibles - il n'a pas réussi à lire le contenu, que va-t-il y écrire ? En théorie, tant qu'il n'y a pas eu réallocation et/ou marquage dans la table des secteurs défectueux, il ne tentera d'écrire que s'il a lu sans erreur. C'est indiqué où ? Je n'ai rien vu dans la page de manuel de badblocks. Reste à savoir ce qui se passe en cas d'erreur: est-ce que le secteur est réalloué/mis en quarantaine? (j'en doute) ou bien est-ce que juste un averto est émis? Badblocks ne s'occupe pas de réallocation (c'est le boulot du disque) ni de mise en quarantaine (c'est le boulot des outils du système de fichiers comme mkfs ou e2fsck). Il ne fait qu'écrire, lire et signaler les erreurs. concerné, donc, avec l'option -c de mkfs ou fsck. Si c'est une partition de swap, mkswap a bien une option -c mais il n'est pas clair si elle ne fait que vérifier ou si elle met en quarantaine les blocs défectueux détectés. Apparemment non, le temps de formatage entre mkswap -c et mke2fs -c étant sensiblement différent. De quel ordre ? Surt un volume de taille conséquente je m'attendrais à ce que la phase la plus longue soit celle de la vérification, donc dure le même temps pour les deux commandes. Et cela ne dit rien sur une éventuelle mise en quarantaine, ce n'est pas ça qui prend du temps. Par contre, ce que j'aimerais bien savoir, c'est si à la suite d'un mke2fs -c -c on exécute un mkswap, les éventuels secteurs défectueux sont réintégrés comme valides ou non par le mkswap. Là, il faut bien être précis et savoir de quoi on parle. Les secteurs réalloués par le disque lors du mkfs -cc seront à nouveau lisibles donc mkswap ne les verra pas comme défectueux. Par contre la liste des secteurs détectés comme illisibles par mkfs ou fsck fait partie des méta-données du système de fichiers, qui sont bien sûr écrasées et ignorées par mkswap. Pour forcer la réallocation des secteurs défectueux par le contrôleur intégré du disque, il faut les détecter (donc essayer de les lire) puis les écrire. badblocs -w (écriture destructive) le fait, mais cela écrase tout le contenu, à moins d'utiliser les bornes de début et fin à partir de la liste des blocs défectueux affichés par l'analyse en lecture seule (faut pas se louper et écraser les données du bloc d'à côté). '-n' me parait plus approprié, puisqu'il effectue le même test mais sans écraser les données. A condition que badblocks -n écrive bien dans les secteurs qu'il n'a pas pu lire au préalable, ce dont je n'ai pas la certitude. Il se pourrait qu'il signale le bloc défectueux dès l'échec de la lecture préalable et saute l'opération d'écriture/vérification. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa9cba.5000...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Problème disque dur USB
Frédéric MASSOT a écrit : La plupart des disques neufs ont des secteurs défectueux, Sources ? Il est AMA totalement anormal qu'un disque neuf montre des secteurs défectueux. il est préférable de faire un test en lecture / écriture (destructif) avant de l'utiliser et que ces secteurs soient découverts avant la mise en production. D'accord. Et s'il y en a, retour en garantie. Lorsque je reçois des disques, je créer une partition sur l'ensemble du disque et je fais tourner pendant une journée un script comme : while (true) do mkfs.ext2 -ccv /dev/sda1; done; Ça ne teste que les blocs appartenant à la partition, qui ne couvre pas tout le disque. Je ne vois pas trop l'intérêt de mkfs par rapport à une simple vérification destructive sur tout le disque avec badblocks -w -p passes /dev/sda où passes est le nombre de passes à effectuer. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa9e12.5090...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: problème affichage écran login
On 01/19/2013 02:10 PM, Giraud Jean Louis wrote: Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre Salut Ce sont des surdoués ?!!! Plus sérieusement, il est peut-être possible de leur demander de refaire l'opération ? -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faa6c7.4010...@gmail.com
Re: problème affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:35 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: Ce sont des surdoués ?!!! Plus sérieusement, il est peut-être possible de leur demander de refaire l'opération ? Wai, et sortie de salle à coups de satons dans le joufflu! ;-) -- sloshy: En quoi ça te gène que ta mère soit au courant? joshua: La gestapo a coté de ma mère c'est flanders -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119150710.5f907c61@anubis.defcon1
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:35 +0100, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : On 01/19/2013 02:10 PM, Giraud Jean Louis wrote: Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre Salut Ce sont des surdoués ?!!! Plus sérieusement, il est peut-être possible de leur demander de refaire l'opération ? non impossible ! Vous seriez surpris de voir tout ce qu'ils réussissent à faire...involontairement ;-) -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119163228.7d2e3...@new-host.home
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:07:10 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:35 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: Ce sont des surdoués ?!!! Plus sérieusement, il est peut-être possible de leur demander de refaire l'opération ? Wai, et sortie de salle à coups de satons dans le joufflu! ;-) bien tenté mais pas possible non plus ! -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119163317.07b1d...@new-host.home
Re: OpenVPN débit et ping très lent [Routed]
Le 19/01/2013 11:41, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Indépendamment du VPN, as-tu évalué la latence et le débit disponibles et les pertes de paquets entre d'une part ton serveur dédié et ton poste client, et d'autre part ton serveur dédié et le serveur de jeu ? Ma connexion étudiante bloque le ping. Le VPN collaboratif de hollande bloque le ping aussi. Je peux juste te fournir le ping entre mon serveur et google.com ~= 6 ms. Et le ping dédié - serveur du jeu = 18 ms. Et stable. Le problème vient donc du tunnel. Je n'ai toujours pas d'autre pistes depuis le temps. Je continue les recherches activement. Merci du coup de main :) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fac84d.7050...@mailoo.org
Re: problème affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:33:17 +0100 Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote: Wai, et sortie de salle à coups de satons dans le joufflu! ;-) bien tenté mais pas possible non plus ! Hmmm, alors tu les attaches sur leurs chaises et tu leurs mets des crayons dans la bouche pour taper, comme ça t'auras le temps de surveiller ce qu'il font:) -- Freez Tu penses que je pourrais jouer à Counter Strike avec mon pc? Cheewie Heuu oui le pc pas de probleme mais t'as quoi comme connexion? Freez Internet Explorer Cheewie Oulah... non ça va pas être possible -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119172403.36c4a004@anubis.defcon1
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:10:25 +0100, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre qui fait qu'au démarrage on arrive à un écran de login bizarre : la moitié gauche est normale et la moitié droite est noire avec un pointeur très gros (j'ai une photo de l'écran mais mon envoi de ce matin avec la photo en pièce jointe n'est pas passé). Cet écran de login ressemble fort à un écran pour personnes à accessibilité réduite et je ne sais pas comment faire pour revenir à un écran de login normal. J'ai fait pas mal de recherches sur le web mais rien. Ca fait dejà deux fois que les gamins font le coup et les fois précédentes la seule solution que j'ai trouvée a été de faire une réinstallation ce qui est très bourrin j'en conviens. Si quelqu'un a une - bonne - idée pour revenir à l'écran de login normal et même en plus pour éviter que ce problème se reproduise, je suis preneur. D'avance merci. Bonjour, quel est donc le gestionnaire de connexion ? gdm, kdm, lightdm ou autre? -- Px -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119175226.77302...@lucifer.librentez.bzh
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:24:03 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:33:17 +0100 Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote: Wai, et sortie de salle à coups de satons dans le joufflu! ;-) bien tenté mais pas possible non plus ! Hmmm, alors tu les attaches sur leurs chaises et tu leurs mets des crayons dans la bouche pour taper, comme ça t'auras le temps de surveiller ce qu'il font:) pas permis non plus ;-) -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119181004.17ddf...@new-host.home
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:52:26 +0100, Papinux px+...@papinux.fr a écrit : Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:10:25 +0100, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre qui fait qu'au démarrage on arrive à un écran de login bizarre : la moitié gauche est normale et la moitié droite est noire avec un pointeur très gros (j'ai une photo de l'écran mais mon envoi de ce matin avec la photo en pièce jointe n'est pas passé). Cet écran de login ressemble fort à un écran pour personnes à accessibilité réduite et je ne sais pas comment faire pour revenir à un écran de login normal. J'ai fait pas mal de recherches sur le web mais rien. Ca fait dejà deux fois que les gamins font le coup et les fois précédentes la seule solution que j'ai trouvée a été de faire une réinstallation ce qui est très bourrin j'en conviens. Si quelqu'un a une - bonne - idée pour revenir à l'écran de login normal et même en plus pour éviter que ce problème se reproduise, je suis preneur. D'avance merci. Bonjour, quel est donc le gestionnaire de connexion ? gdm, kdm, lightdm ou autre? gdm -- Px -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119181031.452bd...@new-host.home
Re: problème affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:10:31 +0100, Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr a écrit : Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:52:26 +0100, Papinux px+...@papinux.fr a écrit : Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:10:25 +0100, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis enseignant en école maternelle et nous avons dans nos classes des ordinateurs sous Debian stable. Il se trouve qu'avec leurs petites mains malhabiles des gamins ont bidouillé un truc bizarre qui fait qu'au démarrage on arrive à un écran de login bizarre : la moitié gauche est normale et la moitié droite est noire avec un pointeur très gros (j'ai une photo de l'écran mais mon envoi de ce matin avec la photo en pièce jointe n'est pas passé). Cet écran de login ressemble fort à un écran pour personnes à accessibilité réduite et je ne sais pas comment faire pour revenir à un écran de login normal. J'ai fait pas mal de recherches sur le web mais rien. Ca fait dejà deux fois que les gamins font le coup et les fois précédentes la seule solution que j'ai trouvée a été de faire une réinstallation ce qui est très bourrin j'en conviens. Si quelqu'un a une - bonne - idée pour revenir à l'écran de login normal et même en plus pour éviter que ce problème se reproduise, je suis preneur. D'avance merci. Bonjour, quel est donc le gestionnaire de connexion ? gdm, kdm, lightdm ou autre? gdm -- Px bonjour, est il possible de réinstaller gdm en purgeant la conf? slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119181820.4088c497.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: [HPLIP] hp-unload et c6200
Bonjour,
Je viens d'avoir le même problème et j'en ai recherché la cause.
En fait, il y a un bogue dans /usr/share/hplip/unload.py vers la ligne 610
if mode in (INTERACTIVE_MODE, NON_INTERACTIVE_MODE):
try:
device_uri = mod.getDeviceUri(device_uri, printer_name,
*filter={'pcard-type' : (operator.eq, 1)})*
try:
pc = photocard.PhotoCard( None, device_uri, printer_name )
Il faut remplacer operator.eq, 1 par operator.eq, 2 et hp-unload
fonctionnera :
Même si cette réponse arrive bien tard, elle pourra toujours intéresser les
utilisateurs d'imprimante HP car HPLIP n'a pas été corrigé...
Cordialement
Mourad Jaber-2 wrote
Bonjour,
Je ne parviens pas à utiliser la commande hp-unload pour pouvoir accéder
au lecteur de
carte mémoire d'une imprimante HP...
Tout le reste fonctionne sans problème, mais je ne parviens pas à aller
lire la carte
mémoire !
C'est embêtant, parce que je m'en sers quand j'ai beaucoup de scan à faire
(ils sont
stocké directement sur la carte) et ce serai super pratique de pouvoir y
accéder via le
réseau !
Est-ce que quelqu'un a réussit à faire fonctionner cette commande ?
à chaque fois que j'essaye, j'obtiens les insultes suivantes :
# hp-unload -pHP_Photosmart_C6200_series
HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.11.1)
Photo Card Access Utility ver. 3.3
Copyright (c) 2001-9 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.
error: Invalid printer name: HP_Photosmart_C6200_series
error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality.
pour tant, sur le site de hplip, ils disent que ça marche avec ce modèle !
Une idée ?
++
Mourad
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Re: problèmge affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:29:09 +0100 fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr wrote: Une fois que tu auras réinstallé gdm avec purge de la conf, tu pourrais virer ce fichu bouton pour l'accessibilité ? Mais pourquoi voulez-vous tous qu'il _réinstalle_, c'est du réflexe w$ ça! Alors qu'il suffit de modifier le fichier de conf et de le propager à l'aide de scp. -- Doo^away j'ai fait peur a mon chat en pétant.. Doo^away c'est dans ces moments là que je ressens le mieux ma propre puissance -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119183845.3ed89080@anubis.defcon1
Re: [HPLIP] hp-unload et c6200
Re, /En complément voici le résultat de la commande hp-unload après correction :/ jacques@debian-asus:~$ hp-unload HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.11) Photo Card Access Utility ver. 3.3 Copyright (c) 2001-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. Using device: hp:/net/Photosmart_C5100_series?zc=HPB8B098 / Photocard on device hp:/net/Photosmart_C5100_series?zc=HPB8B098 mounted DO NOT REMOVE PHOTO CARD UNTIL YOU EXIT THIS PROGRAM Type 'help' for a list of commands. Type 'exit' to quit. pcard: / help Documented commands (type help topic): EOFcddf exif hist ldir ls quit sector thumbnail cache cdup dir exit info lls mv reset showtree card cpdisplay help lcd lpwd pwd rm thumb unload Undocumented commands: == about pcard: / help card Print info about photocard. pcard: / -- View this message in context: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/HPLIP-hp-unload-et-c6200-tp1231564p2850911.html Sent from the debian-user-french mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358616432784-2850911.p...@n7.nabble.com
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:47:26 +0100 fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr wrote: dpkg-reconfigure gdm ? Non, manuellement, en prenant soin d'arrêter gdm avant et en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien pour cacher le bouton. -- Dandromedeux euh elle est gentille et speciale doublegru gentille et speciale doublegru ca me fait penser à du politiquement correct pour parler d'handicapés mentaux Dandromedeux vtff -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119185631.19f0adf7@anubis.defcon1
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:56:31 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:47:26 +0100 fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr wrote: dpkg-reconfigure gdm ? Non, manuellement, en prenant soin d'arrêter gdm avant et en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien pour cacher le bouton. en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien ? en langage courant ça veut dire quoi ? -- Cordialement Jean-Louis Giraud -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119195017.7d7e8...@new-host.home
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
On 01/19/2013 06:38 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:29:09 +0100 fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr wrote: Une fois que tu auras réinstallé gdm avec purge de la conf, tu pourrais virer ce fichu bouton pour l'accessibilité ? Mais pourquoi voulez-vous tous qu'il _réinstalle_, c'est du réflexe w$ ça! Alors qu'il suffit de modifier le fichier de conf et de le propager à l'aide de scp. Le meilleur rempart contre l'ingéniosité des mômes (parce qu'ils recommenceront, c'est inévitable chez les surdoués) : apt-get remove --purge gdm et surtout ne pas réinstaller gdm Se loguer en utilisateur et lancer X normalement, c'est à dire depuis la console avec startx Ensuite, les petits génies pourront faire planter X mais de là à taper startx.. -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faebb7.6080...@gmail.com
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:50:17 +0100 Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote: en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien ? en langage courant ça veut dire quoi ? Qu'il faut fouiller dans la doc et/ou sur le web pour trouver quel texte et dans quelle section il faut ajouter. -- mor a l'interieur, je suis un être dou et sensible mor poétique, et tout ce qui plait aux filles! mor le problème c'est juste qu'à la base je suis qu'elqu'un de fermé mor il suffit de trouver la porte pour acceder a mon être mimi je dois ouvrir quelle porte pour trouver ton être ^^ ? mor commence par la braguette ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119195740.50d49332@anubis.defcon1
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:53:43 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: Le meilleur rempart contre l'ingéniosité des mômes (parce qu'ils recommenceront, c'est inévitable chez les surdoués) : apt-get remove --purge gdm et surtout ne pas réinstaller gdm Se loguer en utilisateur et lancer X normalement, c'est à dire depuis la console avec startx Ensuite, les petits génies pourront faire planter X mais de là à taper startx.. Ou une bonne paire de tenailles… -- neo93: Pourquoi t'es pas venu au bahut ?? The blonde: J'avais 37 de fièvre -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119195847.38087fc7@anubis.defcon1
Re: problème affichage écran login
Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-louis at orange.fr writes: Cet écran de login ressemble fort à un écran pour personnes à accessibilité réduite http://askubuntu.com/questions/4314/on-screen-keyboard-malfunctioning-on-login- screen Au pis: http://superuser.com/questions/113185/ubuntu-9-10-how-to-repair-login- screen-without-reinstalling-gdm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20130119t221918-...@post.gmane.org
Re: problèmge affichage écran login
Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:50:17 +0100, Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr a écrit : Le Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:56:31 +0100, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit : On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:47:26 +0100 fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr wrote: dpkg-reconfigure gdm ? Non, manuellement, en prenant soin d'arrêter gdm avant et en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien pour cacher le bouton. en ajoutant la primitive qui va bien ? en langage courant ça veut dire quoi ? bonjour, puisqu'il faudra passer en auto : http://dev.petitchevalroux.net/linux/activer-connexion-automatique-avec-gdm-linux.252.html doc annexe : http://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56599 pour ma part je suprimerait gdm ( purge ) et le réinstallerai ... autre solution installer lightdm avec un autologin rtfm (ubuntu) : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lightdm slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130120082129.1a86abcf.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
undangan pelatihan : Desain Optimasi Instalasi Pengolahan Air Limbah (IPAL)
PELATIHAN DESAIN OPTIMASI INSTALASI PENGOLAHAN AIR LIMBAH (IPAL) 4 - 5 Februari 2013, Jakarta Penanganan air limbah industri semakin menjadi perhatian baik oleh kalangan masyarakat, pemerintah, maupun kalangan industri. Kalangan industri disatu sisi lain dituntut untuk menangani air buangnya, dan disisi lain untuk mengoptimumkan biaya penaganan melalui peningkatan efisiensi pengguanaan sumberdaya dan optimasi fasilitas penanganan. Dengan menitik beratkan pada pendekatan praktis (desain, operasi, optimasi ) diharapkan pelatihan ini dapat membantu industri dalam pencapaian optimasi tersebut. TUJUAN PELATIHAN 1. Mengetahui prinsip-prinsip manajemen air limbah dan upaya minimisasinya (kualitas dan kuantitas) 2. Mengetahui karakteritik air limbah, dan kaitanya dengan teknologi penanganan yang diperlukan, serta pengaruhnya terhadap lingkungan 3. Memahami prinsip prinsip penanganan air limbah industri, mencakup penanganan primer, sekunder, tersier, serta penanganan sludge 4. Memahami konsep, dan pertimbangan-pertimbangan dalam perancangan instalasi penganganan limbah 5. Memiliki kemampuan teknis dalam mendesain dan optimasi proses dan instalasi penanganan air limbah 6. Mengetahui jenis dan nilai parameter desain berbagai unit operasi instalasi penanganan air limbah 7. Mampu mengoperasikan instalasi penanganan air limbah secara efisient 8. Mampu menghindari terjadinya gangguan, dan mampu memecahkan masalah yang timbul akibat berbagai gangguan pada instalasi penanganan air limbah (trouble shooting) 9. Mampu untuk mendesain, menganalisis, mengevaluasi dan mengoptimasikan penanganan air limbah/sludge MATERI PELATIHAN 1. Manajemen limbah cair dan usaha minimisasinya, dan karakteristik limbah industri 2. Penanganan primer (primery treatment) : dasar desain dan optimasi operasi unit perlakuan pendahuluan berupa ekualisasi, netrlisasi/penaganan pH, koagulasi/flokulasi dan sedimentasi 3. Penaganan sekunder (Biological Waste Water Treatmen) : dasar dan prinsip penanganan air limmbah secara biologis, jenis dan criteria pemilihan system, desain dan operasi satuan-satuan proses pada IPAL, mencakup : 4. Prinsip dasar penanganan air limbah secara biologis 5. Optimasi sebagai jenis/tipe bioreactor mencakup activated sludge dan modifikasinya (oxidation ditch, extanded aerotiob, contact stabilization), trickling filter, Rotating Biological Contractor (RBC), Sequencing Batch Reactor (RBR), membrane bioreactor, bioreactor anaerobic, pond system, dan alternative penanganan lainya 6. Optimasi sludge sparation : sedimentasi (clarifier), flotasi, dan filtrasi membrane 7. Trouble shooting, pencegahanya dan penanggulangannya : bulking sludge, rising sludge, pinpoint flock, foaming, oder problem 8. Penanganagn tersier (Advanted Waste Water Treatmen) : unit operasi /proses penanganan tersier, meliputi oksidasidan adsorpsi, eliminasi nutrient, filtrasi dan disinfeksi 9. Penanganan sludge (Sludge Treatmen) : metode-metode minimisasi produksi sludge, dan teknik penanganan/pengolahan sludge, meliputi peningkatan konsentrasi padatan, deatering stabilisasi biologis (aerob, anaerob), kimia, serta berbagai teknik/cara pemanfaatan sludge 10. Optimasi unit sedimentasi dan unit filtrasi 11. Phitoremidiasi rawa buatan (contructed wet land) 12. Jenis dan penanganan trouble pada IPAL 13. Monev dan optimasi IPAL 14. Pada akhirnya training juga akan dilakukan diskusi umum. Forum ini merupakan forum tukar pengalaman dan forum konsultasi, sehingga setiap peserta memperoleh solusi dan tepat pada permasalahan spesifiknya BIAYA PELATIHAN Rp. 1.500.000/peserta. Biaya tidak termasuk akomodasi peserta Biaya termasuk konsumsi (makan siang dan coffee break), training kit, dokumentasi, materi pelatihan, dan sertifikat INFORMASI DAN PENDAFTARAN SILAHKAN HUBUNGI KAMI : SUMCO INDONESIA Semarang Office : Tel/Fax. 0294-3689841 Mobile : 081215376941, 081919312631, 085727377813 Contact persons : Novita, Rudi Jl. Nusa Indah No.10 Kendal Semarang 51352 E-mail sumcotrain...@yahoo.com IKUTI JUGA : Pelatihan Desain Optimasi Instalasi Pengolahan Air Limbah (IPAL) tgl 11 12 Februari 2013, Surabaya -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-indonesian-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0104e935-41291-00353935163426@sumco-0210eb669
Re: k3b - error al verificar datos grabados en DVD
El Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:08:06 -0300, Calabaza escribió: El 18/01/13, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) La verdad es que no me gustan nada los dispositivos ópticos; los encuentro lentos, poco fiables y altamente inmanejables :-) jaja ¿y tú que sugieres? (...) Yo soy más de disco duro (en cualesquiera de sus modalidades: mecánico, SSD...). Hoy en día me parece el sistema más eficiente para almacenar los datos con una excelente relación coste/espacio/error/flexibilidad. ¿y no consideras el tiempo de almacenamiento? ¿A qué te refieres, exactamente? yo particularmente aaantes en la época de los cds hice unos cuantos backups, luego copie los mismos datos a un disco duro externo, pasaron como 8 años, el hdd ha muerto y los cds siguen perfectamente legibles :) Ah, ya... pero eso que dices entra dentro de la variable error y para serte sincera, el ratio de muerte súbita entre medios ópticos y discos duros es de 100:1 (por cada 100 CD/DVD que he desechado por ilegibles/ rayados tengo un disco duro muerto. Al menos esa es mi experiencia, quizá la tuya sea distinta. Pero para realizar un estudio mínimamente fiable habría que aplicar las mismas condiciones a ambos medios (discos duros y CD/DVD) porque no es lo mismo tener un disco duro funcionando (lectura/escritura) 12 horas al día durante 365 días que un CD de sólo lectura (cerrado) al que sólo accedes 1 vez al año y que los 364 días restantes está tranquilito en su caja sin recibir apagones a lo bruto, picos de tensión ni nada por el estilo; obviamente, sufre menos ;-) ¿Pero el disco DVD estaba vacío (blank) o tenía alguna sesión? El disco era nuevito, blank. Okay, entonces no hay multisesión que valga. ¿podría ser el problema, el tamaño del fichero .iso a grabar ? Bueno, eso es sencillo de comprobar: graba en K3B una imagen ISO en un DVD reescribible (para no tirarlo) y nos dices cómo fue. y eso fue lo que hice y lo comente en el primer mensaje :-) Hum... pensaba que el DVD que te falló con K3B tenía ~4,7 GiB mientras que el de Brasero eran ~4,2 GiB de datos. sí, así fue, entonces, creo que no te comprendí bien, ¿quieres que pruebe a grabar el fichero de ~4,2 G en K3B? Exacto, esa es la prueba que te decía. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kdebis$omu$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Squid, Debian y un usuario domestico enloquecido ;)
El Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:09:27 +0100, Ala de Dragón escribió: El 18/01/13, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Vale, pero hum... a ver. Hay dos paquetes fuente (wheezy), el original: (...) Y el paquete fuente modificado para Debian: (...) ¿Con cuál de los dos has trabajado? Gracias a que me explicaste un poco como funciona los paquetes en Debian me di cuenta de la diferencia, y me puse a trabajar con pdnsd_1.2.8-par-3.debian.tar.gz Vale, en ese caso sí debería reconocerte los parámetros que le pases al demonio desde el archivo /etc/default/pdnsd siempre y cuando hayas habilitado las varibles de depuración al contruir el paquete desde las fuentes. Ya he terminado de compilar el nuevo paquete. Más abajo comento algunas cosas. ¿Y sigue sin registrar nada? Anda, pues es verdad, está huérfano. Qué mala suerte. ¿No te animas a postularte como mantenedor? O:-) ¿Te apuntas conmigo?, seguro que en la lista de novatos nos hechan una mano O;-) Si hubiera algún paquete que me interesara ver disponible/actualizado en los repos me lo pensaba... pero de momento, ayudando con las traducciones e informado de fallos ya tengo suficiente :-) A mí me haría ilu mantener algún paquetico, para ayudar a la comunidad y de paso aprender las interioridades paquetiles pero también me veo muy limitada en cuestiones programáticas... demasiada responsabilidad. Entre dos la responsabilidad es más llevadera Venga, yo preparo chocolate caliente para las noches de insomnio. :-) No cuela :-P Okis... oye, al revisar los bugs del paquete me encuentro con este: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=248925 Que es muy antiguo (y sin respuesta, para más inri) pero me hace pensar que en algún momento de su existencia pdnsd sí podía activar la depuración :-? Bien, algunos detalles de la docu original del autor: pdnsd -vn sets the verbosity level of pdnsd. n is normally a digit from 0 to 3, where 0 means normal operation, while 3 will most verbose. Level 9 can be used in combination with the --debug option for very extensive debug information. Note: The current implementation mostly ignores the verbosity level, so you may not notice much difference between the various levels. Usease, que los niveles ya no importan. Bueno... la current implementation es la versión 1.2.9a-par pero tú tienes la 1.2.8-par. He conseguido algo de informacion en forma de fichero de depuracion, como bien comenta el bug, en la cache. Bien :-) No es lo mismo que cuando compile desde las fuentes, que me ofrecia un muy detallado log en syslog. Lo he conseguido añadiendo las lineas a las Cflags en fichero rules: --with-verbosity=3 --with-debug=9 El resultado el mismo que: --with-debug El binario es un pelin más grande, y debes iniciarlo con la opcion -g en /etc/defaults/pdnsd sino no lo haces no se escribe nada en el fichero. Correcto, de momento va bien, quiero decir que eso es lo que tiene que hacer. Ahora bien, si el fichero no existe e inicias el binario /usr/sbin /pdnsd -g sin demonio, te logea directamente en la terminal. Curioso. Seguramente porque sin esa opción la salida estándar (stdout) será la predeterminada (terminal). Es cierto que el fichero debería en /var/log/pdnsd, pero supone hackear el codigo fuente. El finde es muy largo ;D Enga, que tú puedes :-) Pero oye, ¿quiere eso decir que aún no está corregido ese bug? Caray, si es de hace 9 años... no entiendo como ese paquete ha pasado por el filtro de Debian. Un ejemplo del fichero debug: (...) ¿Funcionara la cache? (...) 3 01/18 20:35:17| Record found in cache for google.com. Parece que sí :-) Pues ya he encontrado un fallo de config: * 01/18 20:33:02| pdnsd: info: pdnsd-1.2.8-par starting. - 01/18 20:33:02| Debug messages activated ¡Yupi! Depuración activada :-p - 01/18 20:33:02| Using IPv4. - 01/18 20:33:02| All threads started successfully. - 01/18 20:33:02| performing uptest (type=query) for 198.41.0.4 - 01/18 20:33:02| Server 198.41.0.4 returned error code: query format error Hum... Tengo que corregir el uptest que tenia dehabilitado. Habilitarlo y corregir. Pues el valor predeterminado para esa variable de la sección [server] es uptest=none, al menos en el paquete original (upstream). Y la documentación recuerda NOTE: If you use on-demand dialing, use none, if, dev, diald or exec, since ping or query will send packets in the specified interval and the interface will thus frequently dial! Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kdeeb3$omu$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: error while loading shared libraries: liblexprintjob.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
El día 19 de enero de 2013 16:26, Robert J. Briones C. robert.brio...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados. tengo este problema con cups y lexmark 1180 /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600: error while loading shared libraries: liblexprintjob.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory eso me sale cuando ejecuto por ejemplo usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600 failed segun veo la libreria esta en /usr/lib/liblexprintjob.a /usr/lib/liblexprintjob.la /usr/lib/liblexprintjob.so.0.0.0 segui los pasos de esta guia para ubuntu http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/18296#.UPrk3flE_Dc he buscado mucho y todos tienen error con la libreria libstdc++.so.5, la que se puede encontrar a los repositorios, pero con el error que me pasa a mi no se realmente que hacer. Uso debian64 gracias y saludos. esto ya se soluciono, era un problema de librerias. ahora tengo otro problema con la libreria libcupsimage2 creo que tambien es por que el driver de lexmark ocupa librerias 32 y esa libreria esta en 64 instale la libreria en 32 la baje en deb y ejecute : dpkg --force-architecture -i libcupsimage2_1.4.4-7+squeeze2_i386.deb y ahora me sale el error como que necesito la de 64, existe alguna forma de tener las 2 intaladas ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGUcOaH7+Ji+WVmE6Bnpp=FySi+dEkSKD3nTC=ch155umu9...@mail.gmail.com
Documentación sobre mod_perl
Estimados, Estoy implementando un ambiente de desarrollo para mod_perl ya tengo lista la configuración en el servidor usando http://www.debian-administration.org/article/A_brief_introduction_to_mod_perl_-_Part_1pero lo que no he encontrado es material sobre programación bajo mod_perl con ejemplos completos ¿alguien tiene material sobre eso? les puedo resumir que tengo esto http://modperlbook.org y http://perl.apache.org/ Cualquier ayuda es bienvenida, gracias -- Atte. Pablo Zúñiga E (+56 9) - 75195192 | MSN/Gtalk: pabl...@gmail.com | Skype: ed00m_ www.gnulinuxporqueno.cl | www.linkedin.com/in/ed00m ===
Re: Dois erros no SID
Olá Rubens, Que bom que o DNS foi resolvido, com relação ao TTY achei meu arquivo txt com os Links da solução. Embora fale do Splash do Ubuntu, ele resolve o problema do TTY... http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php/topic,66522.0.html Meu Ubuntu Server não tem modo gráfico, apenas Texto. Mas uso isso ai o tal de v86d e configuro a resolução como fala. Além de voltar meus TTY eles ficam agora bonitinhos em resolução 1024x768 no modo texto e não os velhos 800x600 que eu achava feio em um monitor de 21 com as letras Granes Pode seguir que funciona 100% no Debian SID. Abs Em 18 de janeiro de 2013 12:09, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com escreveu: Ola Thiago, bom dia! Meu DNS está praticamente resolvido com as dicas desse site. Em relação ao TTY's que sumiram, vc ja encontrou alguma coisa? Eu ainda nao axei nada na net, apenas vc me deu um pingo de esperança hehehehehee Abracos! Valeu! -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 17 de janeiro de 2013 00:47, Thiago Nalli Valentim thiago.na...@gmail.com escreveu: Passei por isso no Ubuntu server 12.04. era tudo novo e diferente as configurações. O resolv.conf tem um bom tutorial no Link abaixo. http://sejalivre.org/como-alterar-as-configuracoes-de-dns-do-ubuntu-12-04-e-debian-resolv-conf-d/ http://sejalivre.org/como-alterar-as-configuracoes-de-dns-do-ubuntu-12-04-e-debian-resolv-conf-d/Já do TTY eu tenho um arquivo texto em algum serviço de Cloud (dropbox, Ubuntu One, etc..) vou procurar e já te envio a solução dos TTY que somem. Abs Em 16 de janeiro de 2013 19:57, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.comescreveu: Irmão, boa noite! 1)Ja pesquisei tudo que eu podia para o sumiço dos terminais, não encontrei nada até agora. Não creio que seja a placa de video, pois tudo funcionar, jogos, internet, flash, tanto no windows7 como no debian. 2) Sobre o DNS, idem... já me conformei de toda vez que iniciar a máquina eu digitat nameserver 8.8.8.8 no arquivo /etc/resolv.conf que é um link para aquele outro arquivo (que é limpado toda vez que o sistema reinicia). 3) Sobre a hora, a bios está correta, mas qdo inicio o debian, ele soma 6h. O tzdata já foi reconfigurado duzentas vezes com o comando dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, já setei a hora na mão com o comando date mmddhhmm, e também com o comando ntpdate. Momentaneamente os comandos date e ntpdate funcionam, bastou desligar e ligar, a bios está correta, mas o debian soma 6h novamente Queria descobrir estas 3 coisas: - Quem foi o chato que fez meus terminais sumirem; - Quem foi o chato que fez o /etc/resolv.conf ser limpado em cada boot; - Quem foi o chato que fez meu relogio somar 6h em cada boot. Eu axo q a atualização para o SID fez coisa estranha no diretório /etc hahahahaha Obrigado. -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 15 de janeiro de 2013 19:15, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu: Brother, se teus consoles sumiram, de duas uma: ou a placa ou as configurações dos terminais virtuais foram modificadas, ja verificou teu inittab está correto? Muito louco esse do resolv.conf, verei com mais calma... Depois de configurar teu timezone, não usa o ntp, configura na mão e testa. Estamos sempre as ordens brother, afinal defendemos uma ótima causa: o software livre ;-) Daniel Melo d4n1 : On Jan 15, 2013 6:24 PM, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com wrote: Prezado Daniel, boa tarde! 1) Eu acredito que não seja a placa de vídeo, pois eu uso o Debian e o win7 normalmente. Isso ocorreu após a migração para o SID. Somente o CTRL+ALT+F7 está funcionando. A impressão que se passar é que os terminais sumiram ou algum arquivo de configuração foi desfeito. Percebi que no /etc há diversos arquivos renomeados para *.conf-bak ou *.dpkg-old. Cara, isso náo fui eu, com certeza foi o processo de migração para o SID :P 2) Constatei que o arquivo /etc/resolv.conf virou um link para /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf, nele consta os dns's antigos do google que eu utilizava: root@debian:/home/rubens# cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 Quando digito dhclient eth0 o conteúdo dele se transforma: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVER WRITTEN nameserver 200.222.145.84 nameserver 200.149.55.142 nameserver 192.168.0.1 OBS: Esses são os mesmos ips da configuração do modem adsl e do roteador. Só sei que antes eu não precisava digitar dhclient eth0 hehehehehe 3) Já reconfigurei meu tzdata com o comando dpkg-reconfigure tzdata para America/Belem, mas mesmo assim depois que reinicia ele volta com a frescura de adiantar 6h meu relógio hahahaa o engraçado que ao tentar reconfigurar o tzdata ele detecta America/Belem normalmente. Depois de reconfigurar eu preciso digitar ntpdate ntp.dlink.com.tw. Até agora foram estas três situações chatinhas que ocorreu no meu pc depois que fiz a migração, será que tem como voltar todos os
Re: Dois erros no SID
Fala camarada Thiago, boa tarde! A ocorrencia do DNS foi resolvida depois que eu editei um arquivo de acordo com aquela outra URL, que informa sobre a alteracao do conceito do /etc/resolv.conf. Ja a ocorrencia do relogio q adiantava 6h, eu axo q foi resolvida depois q eu desistalei o ntp-server e deixei somente o ntpdate na maquina. Sobre a ocorrencia do sumiço dos tty's (ctrl+alt+f1 a f6 e f8 a f12) ainda permanece. Fiz as edicoes q nesse teu ultimo link solicita, mas mesmo assim qdo eu aperto ctrl+alt+f1 o sistema fica com uma tela preta e um cursor piscando em vez de aparecer aquela funcionalidade de entrar com usuario/senha. Quando pressiono ctrl+alt+f7 o sistema retorna para o ambiente grafico. Sinceramente, nunca tinha passado por essa situação de sumiço dos terminais kk GRUPO, Queria saber do grupo, se alguem leu em algum lugar q o debian, ou o linux em geral, alterou o conceito do /etc/resolv.conf que agora ele eh um link k eu nao sabia. Se saiu, nao li nos sites q costumo frequentar. Eis a pergunta: Pq o SID matou meus TTYS ? Ainda bem q ele nao matou o TTY-F7 :P bracos! -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 19 de janeiro de 2013 06:36, Thiago Nalli Valentim thiago.na...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá Rubens, Que bom que o DNS foi resolvido, com relação ao TTY achei meu arquivo txt com os Links da solução. Embora fale do Splash do Ubuntu, ele resolve o problema do TTY... http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php/topic,66522.0.html Meu Ubuntu Server não tem modo gráfico, apenas Texto. Mas uso isso ai o tal de v86d e configuro a resolução como fala. Além de voltar meus TTY eles ficam agora bonitinhos em resolução 1024x768 no modo texto e não os velhos 800x600 que eu achava feio em um monitor de 21 com as letras Granes Pode seguir que funciona 100% no Debian SID. Abs Em 18 de janeiro de 2013 12:09, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.comescreveu: Ola Thiago, bom dia! Meu DNS está praticamente resolvido com as dicas desse site. Em relação ao TTY's que sumiram, vc ja encontrou alguma coisa? Eu ainda nao axei nada na net, apenas vc me deu um pingo de esperança hehehehehee Abracos! Valeu! -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 17 de janeiro de 2013 00:47, Thiago Nalli Valentim thiago.na...@gmail.com escreveu: Passei por isso no Ubuntu server 12.04. era tudo novo e diferente as configurações. O resolv.conf tem um bom tutorial no Link abaixo. http://sejalivre.org/como-alterar-as-configuracoes-de-dns-do-ubuntu-12-04-e-debian-resolv-conf-d/ http://sejalivre.org/como-alterar-as-configuracoes-de-dns-do-ubuntu-12-04-e-debian-resolv-conf-d/Já do TTY eu tenho um arquivo texto em algum serviço de Cloud (dropbox, Ubuntu One, etc..) vou procurar e já te envio a solução dos TTY que somem. Abs Em 16 de janeiro de 2013 19:57, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.comescreveu: Irmão, boa noite! 1)Ja pesquisei tudo que eu podia para o sumiço dos terminais, não encontrei nada até agora. Não creio que seja a placa de video, pois tudo funcionar, jogos, internet, flash, tanto no windows7 como no debian. 2) Sobre o DNS, idem... já me conformei de toda vez que iniciar a máquina eu digitat nameserver 8.8.8.8 no arquivo /etc/resolv.conf que é um link para aquele outro arquivo (que é limpado toda vez que o sistema reinicia). 3) Sobre a hora, a bios está correta, mas qdo inicio o debian, ele soma 6h. O tzdata já foi reconfigurado duzentas vezes com o comando dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, já setei a hora na mão com o comando date mmddhhmm, e também com o comando ntpdate. Momentaneamente os comandos date e ntpdate funcionam, bastou desligar e ligar, a bios está correta, mas o debian soma 6h novamente Queria descobrir estas 3 coisas: - Quem foi o chato que fez meus terminais sumirem; - Quem foi o chato que fez o /etc/resolv.conf ser limpado em cada boot; - Quem foi o chato que fez meu relogio somar 6h em cada boot. Eu axo q a atualização para o SID fez coisa estranha no diretório /etc hahahahaha Obrigado. -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 15 de janeiro de 2013 19:15, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu: Brother, se teus consoles sumiram, de duas uma: ou a placa ou as configurações dos terminais virtuais foram modificadas, ja verificou teu inittab está correto? Muito louco esse do resolv.conf, verei com mais calma... Depois de configurar teu timezone, não usa o ntp, configura na mão e testa. Estamos sempre as ordens brother, afinal defendemos uma ótima causa: o software livre ;-) Daniel Melo d4n1 : On Jan 15, 2013 6:24 PM, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com wrote: Prezado Daniel, boa tarde! 1) Eu acredito que não seja a placa de vídeo, pois eu uso o Debian e o win7 normalmente. Isso ocorreu após a migração para o SID. Somente o CTRL+ALT+F7 está funcionando. A impressão que se passar é que os terminais sumiram ou algum arquivo de configuração foi desfeito. Percebi que no /etc
Re: Dois erros no SID
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Rubens Junior wrote: Eis a pergunta: Pq o SID matou meus TTYS ? Ainda bem q ele nao matou o TTY-F7 :P 1. Estás usando systemd ou sysvinit? Se for systemd, o systemd matou teus TTYs, olhe na documentação do systemd como resolver isso (não sei de cabeça). 2. Se você não usa o systemd, tenha certeza de ter o pacote getty instalado, e que /etc/inittab contém linhas estilo: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119194032.ga18...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Teste para levantar um novo PDC SAMBA
Boa noite Lista! Acredito que tive problemas no envio do post abaixo sendo assim reenvio a lista para ter certeza que todos lerão. Tenho em minha empresa um PDC de muitos anos de uso e que precisa ser atualizado. Pretendo levantar um novo linux e com isso fazer testes neste ambiente provisório pois eu nunca configurei um PDC, com isso tenho medo da hora da chamada eleição dos PDCs e o PDC de produção não entrar e com isso toda a rede da empresa entrar em crash. Como devo declarar o valor do parametro OS LEVEL do ambiente de teste para que eu possa fazer os testes tranquilo e com a certeza de que não irei comprometer o PDC em produção e a autenticação dos usuários e máquinas? Por exemplo se o OS LEVEL do PDc de produção estiver com o valor 100, qual valor eu devo declarar no conf do SAMBA do ambiente de teste? Abraços Spirit Mercy
Re: Dois erros no SID
Henrique Muito boa sua Dica ao Colega da Lista. Eu fiquei com uma dúvida, pois tem muita coisa que ainda não sei em linux, por isso apelo: - Como faço para saber se uso systemd ou sysvinit? Algum comando ou arquivo para olhar e saber? Mais uma que preciso colocar no meu Arquivo de anotações:) Abs Em 19 de janeiro de 2013 17:40, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.orgescreveu: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Rubens Junior wrote: Eis a pergunta: Pq o SID matou meus TTYS ? Ainda bem q ele nao matou o TTY-F7 :P 1. Estás usando systemd ou sysvinit? Se for systemd, o systemd matou teus TTYs, olhe na documentação do systemd como resolver isso (não sei de cabeça). 2. Se você não usa o systemd, tenha certeza de ter o pacote getty instalado, e que /etc/inittab contém linhas estilo: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119194032.ga18...@khazad-dum.debian.net -- ** Thiago Nalli Valentim E-Mail/Gtalk: thiago.na...@gmail.com Blog: *Thiago Nalli LAB http://goo.gl/KDqy8 - *Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/thiagonallivalentim- Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/107572149472903812715* * *Ubuntu User: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/img/ubuntu-user.php?user=10783** #10783*http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/img/ubuntu-user.php?user=10783 *Linux User:**#56* https://linuxcounter.net/user/56.html* *
Re: Dois erros no SID
Camarada Henrique, boa noite! Fiquei com a mesma duvida do Thiago, como saber se o sistema usa systemd ou sysvinit, eu tenho alguns scripts em /etc/init.d/script q sao linkados para /etc/rc2.d/script_link, entao deve ser sysvinit, correto? Esse problema da morte dos terminais ttys ocorreu depois, q por curiosidade, fiz um update do sistema para SID hahahahahaha. Valeu. -- Atenciosamente, Rubens S. O. Jr Em 19 de janeiro de 2013 23:42, Thiago Nalli Valentim thiago.na...@gmail.com escreveu: Henrique Muito boa sua Dica ao Colega da Lista. Eu fiquei com uma dúvida, pois tem muita coisa que ainda não sei em linux, por isso apelo: - Como faço para saber se uso systemd ou sysvinit? Algum comando ou arquivo para olhar e saber? Mais uma que preciso colocar no meu Arquivo de anotações:) Abs Em 19 de janeiro de 2013 17:40, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org escreveu: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Rubens Junior wrote: Eis a pergunta: Pq o SID matou meus TTYS ? Ainda bem q ele nao matou o TTY-F7 :P 1. Estás usando systemd ou sysvinit? Se for systemd, o systemd matou teus TTYs, olhe na documentação do systemd como resolver isso (não sei de cabeça). 2. Se você não usa o systemd, tenha certeza de ter o pacote getty instalado, e que /etc/inittab contém linhas estilo: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119194032.ga18...@khazad-dum.debian.net -- ** Thiago Nalli Valentim E-Mail/Gtalk: thiago.na...@gmail.com Blog: *Thiago Nalli LAB http://goo.gl/KDqy8 - *Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/thiagonallivalentim- Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/107572149472903812715* * *Ubuntu User: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/img/ubuntu-user.php?user=10783** #10783*http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/img/ubuntu-user.php?user=10783 *Linux User:**#56* https://linuxcounter.net/user/56.html* *
Re: [1/2OT] htop for 128 processors
On 18/01/2013 09:13, lina wrote: On Friday 18,January,2013 03:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2013 1:29 AM, lina wrote: Anyone has some idea about how to set 4 columns like this? http://htop.sourceforge.net/htop-64.png $ man htop F2, S Setup screen. There you can configure meters displayed on the top side of the screen, as well as set various display options, choose among color schemes and select the layout of the displayed columns. Always ask man first, then debian-users. I tried, it only provided the add to left (F5) column and add to right colunm (F6), I can't drag four columns out. Anyhow I can use the average. just curious. Thanks, Hi, don't know if you are still looking into this, but wyou could try: Go to setup (F2), remove current CPU meter from left column (F9), add CPUs 12/4 to left column (F5), then add CPUs 34/4 to right column (F6). When done move the newly added meters up (F7). It works with 8 and 16 cores for sure, don't see why it wouldn't work for your configuration. HIH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa645e.2030...@googlemail.com
Re: a tool to have specific images on X root window
Le 18/01/2013 22:11, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 18.01.2013 21:42, Erwan David a écrit : Le 18/01/2013 21:38, Javier Vasquez a écrit : On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 18/01/2013 21:10, Erwan David a écrit : Le 18/01/2013 21:02, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Hello. I would like to know if someone knows a tool like xphoon or xplanet, but allowing to use a simple image (I do not mind the format: I can convert images by script) instead of planets with calculations. It have no real use, except making my workspaces a background image which will probably become useless in the second :D Oh, last thing. I do not, and do not intend to, use big DE like kde, gnome, xfce, lightweight dependencies is a requirement. Stuff with the same mind of lxde is an option, but I did not find a package giving only that feature (I already have a window manager and a menu application, even if the last one does not provide me what I would like). Thanks in advance for suggestions. xroot ? Or xloadimage, I had forgotten. xloadimage is perfect, thanks a lot! I did not found any xroot software, but there is a $xrootconsole $image -onroot, but this one simply writes a file on root window, but in a raw form. Nice for text, I guess it could be useful to draw informations from sensors, by example. Thanks for both those tools. Sorry, after checking I was thinking xsetroot, which can draw a bitmap on the root window. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa6775.7060...@rail.eu.org
Re: Why the 64 bit ISA is better
Le 19.01.2013 00:21, Stan Hoeppner a écrit : Given the recent threads regarding 32 vs 64 bit I thought I'd take a moment to present information often omitted in responses to these posts. First, the i386 kernel/user space have access to only the original 8 general purpose registers of the 80386 ISA that are 32 bits wide, and cannot generally access the more recent multimedia/floating point registers used for things like SSE3/4 and AVX. The AMD64 ISA has twice as many GPRs and twice as wide, 16 general purpose registers each 64 bits wide, and also can access the 128 bit and 256 bit wide multimedia/FP registers of the newest CPUs, allowing for SSE3/4, AVX, etc. These give greatly enhanced performance for some kernel operations (md RAID5/6 for example) and many applicaitons. So beyond the advantage of linear memory addressing far beyond the 4GB limit of the i386 kernel/apps, the AMD64 kernel/apps have some serious performance advantages. -- Stan Thanks for detailed informations, I was suggesting some of them (instruction sets and range of registers, but did not known about the new GPRs), but did not had the knowledge to explain things as nicely as you. I do not know why people most often reduce x86_64 archs to simply more than 4GB of ram, I guess it is harder to notice difference we had when changing from 16 to 32 bits... I would like to archive your mail, with your permission, as a good presentation of the enhancements of x86_64's archs for people interested in computers stuff. PS: do you know if, as for 16 bits to 32 bits, there is a the need to switch processor's mode? With 32 bits arch, IIRC, kernels had to enable protected mode (versus real mode). Is there is something identical for 64bits archs? I do not think so, since the protected mode only exists to protect OS against bad memory accesses (I think), but just thinking is not enough to share those suppositions to other people, it would be counter-productive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e8862049ca25aeb894e414bf2fe9...@neutralite.org
Re: [1/2OT] htop for 128 processors
On Saturday 19,January,2013 05:16 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 18/01/2013 09:13, lina wrote: On Friday 18,January,2013 03:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2013 1:29 AM, lina wrote: Anyone has some idea about how to set 4 columns like this? http://htop.sourceforge.net/htop-64.png $ man htop F2, S Setup screen. There you can configure meters displayed on the top side of the screen, as well as set various display options, choose among color schemes and select the layout of the displayed columns. Always ask man first, then debian-users. I tried, it only provided the add to left (F5) column and add to right colunm (F6), I can't drag four columns out. Anyhow I can use the average. just curious. Thanks, Hi, don't know if you are still looking into this, but wyou could try: Go to setup (F2), remove current CPU meter from left column (F9), add CPUs 12/4 to left column (F5), then add CPUs 34/4 to right column (F6). When done move the newly added meters up (F7). It works with 8 and 16 cores for sure, don't see why it wouldn't work for your configuration. But it seems still only two columns, not 4 columns. HIH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa71cb.1050...@gmail.com
Re: debian 64 or 32 bit
On Vi, 18 ian 13, 20:33:01, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: So, for processors able to support x84_64 archs, use it. Why would you use only a fragment of your computer's power? This is a bit of an overstatement. I've been running amd64, i386 and amd64 kernel with i386 userland on this machine[0] and never felt any difference. If you are heavily space constrained[1] than i386 does make sense, especially if you need 32-bit applications. [0] Intel Dual Core T2330 @ 1.6 GHz, 2 GiB RAM [1] at the moment I'm trying to use a 16 GB SD card for my backup install[2] and /home ;) [2] usually stable, but I feel like starting from scratch, so I'm using wheezy Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian 64 or 32 bit
Le 19.01.2013 11:49, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 18 ian 13, 20:33:01, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: So, for processors able to support x84_64 archs, use it. Why would you use only a fragment of your computer's power? This is a bit of an overstatement. I've been running amd64, i386 and amd64 kernel with i386 userland on this machine[0] and never felt any difference. If you are heavily space constrained[1] than i386 does make sense, especially if you need 32-bit applications. [0] Intel Dual Core T2330 @ 1.6 GHz, 2 GiB RAM [1] at the moment I'm trying to use a 16 GB SD card for my backup install[2] and /home ;) [2] usually stable, but I feel like starting from scratch, so I'm using wheezy Kind regards, Andrei I guess that doubling the number of register and their capacity is not so easy to notice for most usages. But I think it is not a bad idea to be able to use them when you regularly use stuff that heavily uses the processor, like C++ compilers :) Maybe I should try to compile the same software with same options with both archs installed, but I can see no reason to see the 64bit arch being as slow or slower than the 32bits one... Of course, I think it totally useless for habitual uses, like using word processors. But for that, modern computer are simply a waste: most usages of those applications were made on computers 15 years ago... (set this text in middle of the page, with bold font of size 32, color green, please... the usage of most people I said, not usage of professionals.) I bet that I could give my designed for windows millenium computer to many people, and they could be happy with it, except for disk space and a bit of slowness on the web. Just, do not expect to play or compile with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5b5b6ad89a528eefad08cca7d724e...@neutralite.org
Re: [1/2OT] htop for 128 processors
On 19/01/2013 11:13, lina wrote: On Saturday 19,January,2013 05:16 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: On 18/01/2013 09:13, lina wrote: On Friday 18,January,2013 03:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2013 1:29 AM, lina wrote: Anyone has some idea about how to set 4 columns like this? http://htop.sourceforge.net/htop-64.png $ man htop F2, S Setup screen. There you can configure meters displayed on the top side of the screen, as well as set various display options, choose among color schemes and select the layout of the displayed columns. Always ask man first, then debian-users. I tried, it only provided the add to left (F5) column and add to right colunm (F6), I can't drag four columns out. Anyhow I can use the average. just curious. Thanks, Hi, don't know if you are still looking into this, but wyou could try: Go to setup (F2), remove current CPU meter from left column (F9), add CPUs 12/4 to left column (F5), then add CPUs 34/4 to right column (F6). When done move the newly added meters up (F7). It works with 8 and 16 cores for sure, don't see why it wouldn't work for your configuration. But it seems still only two columns, not 4 columns. HIH. Strange, it sure is working here both in vt and in X, through ssh too. Maybe it has to do with screen resolution or the size of the term window ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa87ce.3040...@googlemail.com
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
Hi Lina,
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 schrieb lina:
Where is that directory located? In your home directory?
Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try
-? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar
I imagine it could also be a subtile lack of access rights (SELinux
possibly?), but usually I would suspect a message about it then.
Yes, it has SELinux.
Might be related, but I am not deeply enough into it.
I wonder how can I delete it?
Are you sure that it is a good idea to try to delete something were you
at least partly have no access rights to and then as it appears don´t
know how it happened to be there in the first place?
If thats the monster box I´d contact your system administrator about it
:).
It's well maintained, at least far better than other boxes I met before.
Just it might be my fault, long long time ago, I might chmod blindly at
that time.
Monster box was related to the hardware equipment, not the administration :)
Also be careful on what possibly private information you disclose here
to the public. As interested as I would be to have some access to such
a box :)
How? btw, please feel free to help me delete this directory if you
access to it.
what happens on
chmod u+rwx /home/lina/try
What does
find /home/lina/try -ls
say then?
If -ls in find does not work try:
find /home/lina/try -exec ls -ld {} \;
Thanks,
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Re: Why the 64 bit ISA is better
On 1/19/2013 3:41 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Thanks for detailed informations, I was suggesting some of them (instruction sets and range of registers, but did not known about the new GPRs), but did not had the knowledge to explain things as nicely as you. I would like to archive your mail, with your permission, as a good presentation of the enhancements of x86_64's archs for people interested in computers stuff. I don't mind. But the Wikipedia page has much more detail, so you should reverence that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 PS: do you know if, as for 16 bits to 32 bits, there is a the need to switch processor's mode? Yes. x86-64 adds 'long' mode which comprises two sub-modes. See the Wikipedia page or the x86-64 Architectural Programmer's Reference Manual for details. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faa2a9.3000...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: OpenVPN and IP Forwarding
Hello, Joe a écrit : Entirely unrelated to anything else in the thread, but this one caught me yesterday, moving a firewall script from an old Ubuntu to a Sid machine. In Sid, 'state' no longer works. Instead of: Are you sure it is not just a warning ? I can see from packages.debian.org that the xt_state module and shared library are still present in Sid/unstable linux-image and iptables packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faa00e.40...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: 32-bit Kernel on 64-bit CPU?
Hello, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : The 686-pae kernel is 32-bit, nothing strange here. However, in your OP you mentioned not being able to allocate more than 2 GB with qemu. Unless this is some limitation of qemu it should have worked with the -686-pae kernel Don't forget that even though the PAE kernel can manage up to 64 GiB of physical memory, 32 userland processes are still limited to 32-bit virtual memory addressing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faa34f.2010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: OpenVPN and IP Forwarding
cletusjenkins a écrit : I can ping the machine from the private network, but not the other way around. What does this mean exactly ? Please provide the exact commands and output. Also please provide the output of iptables-save. Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 10.10.0.110.10.0.249 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 tun0 99.88.77.66 11.22.33.44255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 eth0 10.10.0.249 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 tun0 11.22.33.40 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.10.0.249 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 tun0 Looks fine, except for the useless route to 192.168.2.0/32. I searched and found some instructions with iptables commands that would allow ip forwarding over the VPN, but it didn't seem to make any difference: The effect of each single iptables rule may vary depending on the global ruleset. Hence my request above. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faa71f.4070...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Why the 64 bit ISA is better
Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2013 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: PS: do you know if, as for 16 bits to 32 bits, there is a the need to switch processor's mode? Yes. x86-64 adds 'long' mode which comprises two sub-modes. See the Wikipedia page or the x86-64 Architectural Programmer's Reference Manual for details. You can see whether the CPU has this longmode in Linux: martin@merkaba:~ egrep --colour=always (model|lm) /proc/cpuinfo | head -3 model : 42 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid This is a good way to see whether a CPU is capable of 64-bit stuff. lspcu also shows the supported modes: martin@merkaba:~ lscpu Architecture: x86_64 CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order:Little Endian CPU(s):4 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-3 Thread(s) per core:2 Core(s) per socket:2 Socket(s): 1 NUMA node(s): 1 Vendor ID: GenuineIntel CPU family:6 Model: 42 Stepping: 7 CPU MHz: 800.000 BogoMIPS: 4983.77 Virtualization:VT-x L1d cache: 32K L1i cache: 32K L2 cache: 256K L3 cache: 3072K NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-3 Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301191604.46998.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On 19/01/2013 14:31, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Lina,
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 schrieb lina:
Where is that directory located? In your home directory?
Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try
-? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar
I imagine it could also be a subtile lack of access rights (SELinux
possibly?), but usually I would suspect a message about it then.
Yes, it has SELinux.
Might be related, but I am not deeply enough into it.
I wonder how can I delete it?
Are you sure that it is a good idea to try to delete something were you
at least partly have no access rights to and then as it appears don´t
know how it happened to be there in the first place?
If thats the monster box I´d contact your system administrator about it
:).
It's well maintained, at least far better than other boxes I met before.
Just it might be my fault, long long time ago, I might chmod blindly at
that time.
Monster box was related to the hardware equipment, not the administration :)
Also be careful on what possibly private information you disclose here
to the public. As interested as I would be to have some access to such
a box :)
How? btw, please feel free to help me delete this directory if you
access to it.
what happens on
chmod u+rwx /home/lina/try
What does
find /home/lina/try -ls
say then?
If -ls in find does not work try:
find /home/lina/try -exec ls -ld {} \;
Thanks,
Hi,
regarding SELinux attributes you can use the -Z (--context) ls
option to find out, and remount /home without ACL if necessary (or use
setfacl -b). But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow
corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ?
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Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On Sunday 20,January,2013 12:28 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 19/01/2013 14:31, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Lina,
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 schrieb lina:
Where is that directory located? In your home directory?
Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try
-? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar
I imagine it could also be a subtile lack of access rights (SELinux
possibly?), but usually I would suspect a message about it then.
Yes, it has SELinux.
Might be related, but I am not deeply enough into it.
I wonder how can I delete it?
Are you sure that it is a good idea to try to delete something were you
at least partly have no access rights to and then as it appears don´t
know how it happened to be there in the first place?
If thats the monster box I´d contact your system administrator about it
:).
It's well maintained, at least far better than other boxes I met before.
Just it might be my fault, long long time ago, I might chmod blindly at
that time.
Monster box was related to the hardware equipment, not the
administration :)
Also be careful on what possibly private information you disclose here
to the public. As interested as I would be to have some access to such
a box :)
How? btw, please feel free to help me delete this directory if you
access to it.
what happens on
chmod u+rwx /home/lina/try
What does
find /home/lina/try -ls
say then?
If -ls in find does not work try:
find /home/lina/try -exec ls -ld {} \;
Thanks,
Hi,
regarding SELinux attributes you can use the -Z (--context) ls
option to find out, and remount /home without ACL if necessary (or use
setfacl -b). But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow
corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ?
$ fsck -c
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
/dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root is mounted.
WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted. If you continue you ***WILL***
cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no
check aborted.
$ fsck -n
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Warning! /dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root is mounted.
fsck.ext4: Permission denied while trying to open
/dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root
You must have r/o access to the filesystem or be root
There are some other distracting message in dmesg, like:
CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
Status code returned 0xc06a NT_STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD
CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
mdrun_mpi[945]: segfault at 1fe7360 ip 007df9b9 sp
7fffdf9ffef0 error 4 in mdrun_mpi[40+48]
Thanks,
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Priorities of alternatives; was Re: Re (2): xmonad and LXDE.
man update-alternatives has no mention of how the priorities of alternatives originate. The most reasonable explanation I can imagine is that any new alternative is assigned a lower priority than extant alternatives. Correct? My example from last July. peter@dalton:~$ update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/openbox /usr/bin/openbox - priority 90 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/openbox.1.gz /usr/bin/xmonad - priority 20 Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/openbox'. Suppose that I prefer xmonad to openbox. One way to indulge my prefence would be to somehow impose it in the operation of startx. Apparently this is the effect of the first instruction in http://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad, ... add STARTUP=x-window-manager to your ~/.xsessionrc. A second strategy would be to find a way to raise the priority of xmonad. If my original speculation above is correct, this might be achieved by de-installing both alternatives and reinstalling in the desired order. Alternatively, by using update-alternatives directly. update-alternatives --remove x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad update-alternatives --install x-window-manager x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad 100 This would give xmonad top priority system wide and should work for a display manager as well as for startx. Comments welcome. ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057907.37139.24988@cantor.invalid
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On 19/01/2013 17:33, lina wrote:
On Sunday 20,January,2013 12:28 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 19/01/2013 14:31, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Lina,
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 schrieb lina:
Where is that directory located? In your home directory?
Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try
-? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar
I imagine it could also be a subtile lack of access rights (SELinux
possibly?), but usually I would suspect a message about it then.
Yes, it has SELinux.
Might be related, but I am not deeply enough into it.
I wonder how can I delete it?
Are you sure that it is a good idea to try to delete something were you
at least partly have no access rights to and then as it appears don´t
know how it happened to be there in the first place?
If thats the monster box I´d contact your system administrator about it
:).
It's well maintained, at least far better than other boxes I met before.
Just it might be my fault, long long time ago, I might chmod blindly at
that time.
Monster box was related to the hardware equipment, not the
administration :)
Also be careful on what possibly private information you disclose here
to the public. As interested as I would be to have some access to such
a box :)
How? btw, please feel free to help me delete this directory if you
access to it.
what happens on
chmod u+rwx /home/lina/try
What does
find /home/lina/try -ls
say then?
If -ls in find does not work try:
find /home/lina/try -exec ls -ld {} \;
Thanks,
Hi,
regarding SELinux attributes you can use the -Z (--context) ls
option to find out, and remount /home without ACL if necessary (or use
setfacl -b). But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow
corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ?
$ fsck -c
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
/dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root is mounted.
WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted. If you continue you ***WILL***
cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no
check aborted.
$ fsck -n
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Warning! /dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root is mounted.
fsck.ext4: Permission denied while trying to open
/dev/mapper/vg_mars-lv_root
You must have r/o access to the filesystem or be root
There are some other distracting message in dmesg, like:
CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
Status code returned 0xc06a NT_STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD
CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
mdrun_mpi[945]: segfault at 1fe7360 ip 007df9b9 sp
7fffdf9ffef0 error 4 in mdrun_mpi[40+48]
Thanks,
Sorry, I wrongly assumed you were familiar with fsck, you can't check a
mounted file-system. The error messages are normal, fsck won't proceed
for very good reasons if the file-system is mounted.
CIFS errors are just what it says: wrong password. Looks like someone
tried to mount a samba share with wrong credentials.
mdrun_mpi is some executable which is segfaulting.
A corrupt file-system could generate such cascading errors, but they
could also be unrelated. Anyway this system needs some serious attention
from root !
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Re: debian 64 or 32 bit
Hi, Dňa Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:36:50 -0600 Mark Allums m...@allums.com napísal: There is one disadvantage, i read about it, that by using the 64bit pointers, the binaries size and memory requirements are on amd64 higher, than on i386. But bigger HDD and more RAM is no problem in these days. There is a size increase, but not as big as you might think. Your memory requirements won't double. For all *new* computers, 64-bit is a no-brainer. As everyone is saying, 8 GB is fairly common now for desktop machines, and memory access is far more efficient under a 64-bit OS on machines with memory larger than 3 GB. Sure. I don't wrote that memory or disk requirements are double, but they are higher. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: debian 64 or 32 bit
-Original Message- From: Ralf Mardorf Sent: Sat 1/19/2013 19:21 To: debian-u...@lists.debian.or Subject: Re: debian 64 or 32 bit On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:41:21 +0100, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Hi, Dna Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:36:50 -0600 Mark Allums m...@allums.com napísal: There is one disadvantage, i read about it, that by using the 64bit pointers, the binaries size and memory requirements are on amd64 higher, than on i386. But bigger HDD and more RAM is no problem in these days. There is a size increase, but not as big as you might think. Your memory requirements won't double. For all *new* computers, 64-bit is a no-brainer. As everyone is saying, 8 GB is fairly common now for desktop machines, and memory access is far more efficient under a 64-bit OS on machines with memory larger than 3 GB. Sure. I don't wrote that memory or disk requirements are double, but they are higher. It's a shame that so much unneeded stuff is sold and especially that users tend to through away still useful gear. 3.7GB are enough for heavy audio productions, I wonder why averaged users need 8GB of RAM, when they only use Firefox and an office suite to write one letter a year. When I bought my 2.1GHz dual-core, fast enough for heavy audio productions too, I liked that the CPU did need half as much watt as my 800MHz single core CPU did consume. Btw. on the same machine there isn't a big difference between 32-bit and 64-bit when doing heavy audio productions or compiling a kernel. I prefer 64-bit Linux, but the difference isn't that big. It's important to get rid of bottlenecks on what architecture ever. Btw. when I add a parallel port to my C64 to have faster floppy drive access, nobody imagined that we today go back from parallel to serial ports for modern hard disk drives. There's no valid general assessment about what architecture is the better one. I bet with my professional sound card performance will be better and CPU usage will be less heavy on a week computer, than for a powerful machine with an onboard audio device. Important are the bottlenecks regarding to the usage. All general claims are nothing, but blah-blah. 2 Cents, Ralf -- No good deed ever goes unpunished. Einer guten Tat folgt die Strafe auf dem Fuße!
GDM3 Duplicates Menus Clocks Workspace Switcher etc.
Hey there everyone, I just installed debian wheezy and I get the following problem with gdm3: Every time I login the menu items are added again (to the already existing items) and the clock is added and the logout menu is also added as is the workspace switcher and the taskbar ... So after 3 logins I now have three of every sort ... reinstalling gdm didn't even remove the menu entries neither did completely rm -R * ing the home directory I have no idea what to do anymore I am using a Dual Screen Setup which I had lots of trouble setting up using the free driver for ATI cards so I switched to the proprietary one and used the initalize function of aticonfig for two monitors. However Gnome shows still only one monitor in its system settings, maybe that could be related... I am very grateful for any idea! Thanks in Advance, Felix Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PfWgl0f.png -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fae704.1010...@audiofair.de
Re: GDM3 Duplicates Menus Clocks Workspace Switcher etc.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:33:40 +0100, Felix Winterhalter fe...@audiofair.de wrote: Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PfWgl0f.png It's good that you did add the screenshot, since it's the GNOME3 panel and not GDM, GNOME's display manager. I'm not using GNOME3, but IIRC to access the panel settings, you have to push a key, when clicking the panel, then you could edit the panel or remove it and add a new panel. I also recommend to delete the cache, but since you already deleted /home something seems to be really fishy. No wait, you explicitly run rm -R *? This won't delete hidden files! You need to learn about shell globbing. I recommend to first delete ~/.cache, if this shouldn't do the trick, mv, IOW rename GNOME configurations inside your home folder. For your GUI file browser you have to enable show hidden files, perhaps by the a menu view, to see those files and for the terminal emulation run ls -hAl, this will give you good human readable information. Regards, Ralf -- No good deed ever goes unpunished. Einer guten Tat folgt die Strafe auf dem Fuße! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq599vfmqhadp0@freebsd
Re: debian 64 or 32 bit
Hi, Dňa Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:34:54 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org napísal: Of course, I think it totally useless for habitual uses, like using word processors. But for that, modern computer are simply a waste: most usages of those applications were made on computers 15 years ago... (set this text in middle of the page, with bold font of size 32, color green, please... the usage of most people I said, not usage of professionals.) I bet that I could give my designed for windows millenium computer to many people, and they could be happy with it, except for disk space and a bit of slowness on the web. Just, do not expect to play or compile with it. I remember the time of 16/32bit applications (i remember the 8 bit apps too, but changing to 16 bit was out of my scope) :-) There was a discussions about go or not to go to the 16 bit apps too. In these days i see 16 bit apps occasionally only (very old MS-DOS apps in my job - some CAD communication). I think, that here is time to tell bye bye 32bit apps now. :-) Of course, here are situations, where can be problem - for example i have one hardware with proprietary driver (interactive white board) with 32-bit installer only, then i was using i386 Debian, with 64bit kernel (some years ago - now the company doesn't provides the Linux driver) for it, but this is special case, as above mentioned MS-DOS apps, which are running on dedicated Win98 machines. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenVPN and IP Forwarding
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:30:54 +0100 Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Hello, Joe a écrit : Entirely unrelated to anything else in the thread, but this one caught me yesterday, moving a firewall script from an old Ubuntu to a Sid machine. In Sid, 'state' no longer works. Instead of: Are you sure it is not just a warning ? I can see from packages.debian.org that the xt_state module and shared library are still present in Sid/unstable linux-image and iptables packages. Sorry, I wasn't being precise, it is a warning at the moment, but a firewall is an embarrassing thing to lose after an update, so I treated it as a fix-it-NOW job. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130119191558.13b8c...@jretrading.com
Re: GDM3 Duplicates Menus Clocks Workspace Switcher etc.
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:11:45 +0100, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:33:40 +0100, Felix Winterhalter fe...@audiofair.de wrote: Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PfWgl0f.png It's good that you did add the screenshot, since it's the GNOME3 panel and not GDM, GNOME's display manager. I'm not using GNOME3, but IIRC to access the panel settings, you have to push a key, when clicking the panel, then you could edit the panel or remove it and add a new panel. I also recommend to delete the cache, but since you already deleted /home something seems to be really fishy. No wait, you explicitly run rm -R *? This won't delete hidden files! You need to learn about shell globbing. I recommend to first delete ~/.cache, if this shouldn't do the trick, mv, IOW rename GNOME configurations inside your home folder. For your GUI file browser you have to enable show hidden files, perhaps by the a menu view, to see those files and for the terminal emulation run ls -hAl, this will give you good human readable information. Regards, Ralf PS: OTOH from where did you recursively deleted files using the asterisk? Resp. seemingly you didn't delete everything, so it shouldn't matter, but even using the asterisk it's possible to delete hidden files, regarding from where you run the remove command. -- No good deed ever goes unpunished. Einer guten Tat folgt die Strafe auf dem Fuße! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq6akc0hqhadp0@freebsd
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
## Transferring back to the list since i received this personally, and ## I am not the OP On 19/01/2013 19:12, pavicic wrote: Hi, -? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar I wonder how can I delete it? I've just come accross this. Didn't read the history. Thought the following might help. Such orphan files appeared on my cluster when the system failed to close the files that were generated by massive calculations. I succeeded in deleting them via mc (Midgnight Commander). In mc, I was also able to see some more details than on the command line. M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50faf875.1080...@googlemail.com
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:33, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com said: Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try -? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ? Hi Lina Excuse me for replying to this message, I've managed to lose your first post. This is most likely not a corrupt file system, but rather it is probably the result of lack of execute permission on the directory. You can recreate it thusly: $ cd /tmp $ mkdir test $ export looptest=0 $ while [ $looptest -le 10 ] do touch test/test$looptest loop=`expr $looptest + 1` done $ ls -l test total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test1 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test10 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test2 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test3 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test4 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test5 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test6 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test7 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test8 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test9 $ chmod 644 test $ ls -l test ls: cannot access test/test3: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test1: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test5: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test10: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test6: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test8: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test9: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test2: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test0: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test4: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test7: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? test0 -? ? ? ? ?? test1 -? ? ? ? ?? test10 -? ? ? ? ?? test2 -? ? ? ? ?? test3 -? ? ? ? ?? test4 -? ? ? ? ?? test5 -? ? ? ? ?? test6 -? ? ? ? ?? test7 -? ? ? ? ?? test8 -? ? ? ? ?? test9 $ rm -f test/* rm: cannot remove `test/test0': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test1': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test10': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test2': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test3': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test4': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test5': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test6': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test7': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test8': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test9': Permission denied $ chmod 755 test $ ls -l test total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test1 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test10 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test2 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test3 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test4 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test5 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test6 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test7 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test8 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test9 $ rm -f test/* $ ls -l test total 0 This is a result of needing directory execute permission in order to traverse the directory. Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358627597.802821...@webmail.gtek.biz
RE: debian 64 or 32 bit
Important are the bottlenecks regarding to the usage. All general claims are nothing, but blah-blah. Could not agree more. Too many people are buying new ram modules when they should simply buy a faster hard disk, by example. People often say that dev needs high-performance computers for compilation, and I am doing most of my personal dev on a netbook. It is powerful enough. Well, ok, it would not be if I was using certain IDE, and some weeks ago I wanted to change my RAM module to go to 2GB. But since then, I've discovered clang. The current problem, and reason why people need new, over-powerful hardwares is that developers create bloatwares and soft with many memory leaks and high memory costs. I remember teachers I had saying that using int was as good as using char since consumers can buy ram. Luckily, I had already knowledge in programming, and a strong opinion that obvious optimizations must be done, but I was an exception. You spoke about firefox. A few versions ago, it was a good sample of what I said, but because of the browser's war, they finally fix their problems. I can remember times where it was able to run with less than 256MB! It can not do that on desktop version nowadays. Not without a lot of disk access to swap. But I think it is a shame that softwares need opponents to think about their performances problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8be12824af8b2496bf749cb0cbe7e...@neutralite.org
Re: 32-bit Kernel on 64-bit CPU?
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 07:44, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org said: Hello, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : The 686-pae kernel is 32-bit, nothing strange here. However, in your OP you mentioned not being able to allocate more than 2 GB with qemu. Unless this is some limitation of qemu it should have worked with the -686-pae kernel Don't forget that even though the PAE kernel can manage up to 64 GiB of physical memory, 32 userland processes are still limited to 32-bit virtual memory addressing. One thing I've learned is that the more work it takes to resolve a problem, the less likely it is that you will forget that resolution. Thanks! I also misspoke in my previous post. It was not a problem with qemu, it was my lack of understanding, dut to my lack of reading. Qemu was not the issue, I was. I've also enjoyed the other 64-bit discussions and picked up a few tips. My thanks to everyone that participated in the conversations. Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358628210.60766...@webmail.gtek.biz
Can't login into phpldapadmin web interface
Hi, I just installed slapd, ldap-utils and phpldapadmin on to my Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) system. I run sudo slaptest -v config file testing succeeded However, I can't run say the command: sudo ldapmodify SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started Please enter your password: I enter here the password that I give when I installed slapd ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Invalid credentials (49) additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database When I'm trying to login on my phpldapadmin web interface: http://localhost/phpldapadmin/index.php cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com I enter here the password that I give when I installed slapd I get error messages: Unable to connect to LDAP server My LDAP Server Hiba: Invalid credentials (49) for user error Failed to Authenticate to server Invalid Username or Password. Well, installing and the configuration of the LDAP for a new user isn't so easy. What is the problem here and how can I solve it? -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hamc3gr2@gmail.com
What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
Hello: Please provide some examples of common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUXso that I may more effectively gain a better handle on the trouble-shooting process. Thank you! Sincerely, Herschel
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
Le 20.01.2013 00:07, ventur...@yahoo.com a écrit : Hello: Please provide some examples of common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUXso that I may more effectively gain a better handle on the trouble-shooting process. Thank you! Sincerely, Herschel I think main problems is lack of support for certain hardware, or difficulties (you will had to do some researches... but it is as on other systems) to install few of them. Some examples I am thinking about is support for recent NVidia cards, various wifi or sound chip-sets which do not always have free drivers. The common way to solve those problems is by adding non-free repositories, and install them. Forums are a good starting point to gather informations, they often contain solutions, and the fun point is that you do not need to limit yourself to debian forums. Other problems you may encounter depends on which OS you were used to. If you come from windows, you might be surprised by the strong security by default and the structure of folders. When I have switched from windows to debian, I thought that separating software configurations from their resources from their binaries... etc was stupid. But when you become used to this, you think the windows' way is wrong, since it does not allow, by example, to save and restore system's configuration as easily. You might also be surprised that some configuration actions are made through command-line and by directly editing configuration files. Those configuration elements varies depending on the desktop environment you will choose. Some of use like to have to tinker with command lines and files, but I think most people prefer graphical tools. I really think problems you will have will greatly depends on your computer knowledge, the OS from which you are trying to switch, and your hardware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2394d37bb2f5b8a119a461fb37b5b...@neutralite.org
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On 01/19/2013 05:07 PM, ventur...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello: Please provide some examples of common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUXso that I may more effectively gain a better handle on the trouble-shooting process. Thank you! Sincerely, Herschel Maybe the primary problem comes with Debian's more zealous adherance to the Free Software philosophy. It is a good thing, for the most part, but it has some disadvantages, particularly in the realm of hardware and the sort of support a lot of open source drivers offer, specifically with display drivers or wireless networking.. Biggest example of this having a downside for Debian is official debian media not providing nonfree firmware for wifi chipsets, making it often much more difficult to install the system if you can't simply wire up. I've also got to be perhaps a little frank... Debian's multilib/java support has always been a bit of a low point for me. Debian does offer non-free software in unsupported repositories, but at install time these are usually not accessible. Don't misinterpret this as me not likign Debian, I really do like Debian for servers (I use Debian on my server.). I don't generally find it as ideal for desktops as many other distributions for the reasons above. Debian Stable is maybe not the best for desktops if you're interested in having more up-to-date software. The concept behind Stable is near-implausible levels of quality control on the packages. There is testing and unstable. Testing is actually maybe better thought as the Debian best for desktops by many because it gets into that balance of recent packages with a still somewhat reasonable amount of stability. Sid is not recommended for anything but actual testing and quality control purposes. It's full rolling release but because it's about developing packages as opposed to providing a full-on usable system as rolling release, it's not ideally suited for desktops or servers. If you like rolling release and want to use it as a stable Linux system I'd recommend Arch instead. But I digress. Debian is a wonderful system! Great community, very high quality packages, and easy to get help for. Just watch out for the caveats that come with a Free Software mentality. Conrad
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:07:19 +0100, ventur...@yahoo.com wrote: Please provide some examples of common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUXso that I may more effectively gain a better handle on the trouble-shooting process. For averaged usage there aren't common problems. What ever averaged and common are for. At the moment Debian isn't a distro I use myself, because there are issues regarding to my needs. What hardware do you use and for what usage do you need your computer? Drivers for hardware could cause trouble. For some domains there aren't professional apps available, e.g. non-linear video editing. If you buy new hardware, take care that it's supported by Linux. If you need some special software for professional usage, check if there are such apps available for Linux. With Linux you can tweak you system very good, you can unbind devices, you can set priorities (nice values, or completely different real-time priority, e.g. for CNC or pro-audio) etc. pp.. The advantage of packages that provide binaries is, that you don't need days to compile the software, the disadvantage is, that you are dependent to upstream, resp. the package maintainers. Not entirely true, since you still can compile apps when using most apps by packages, sometimes issues already can be solved by building dummy packages, to fake a dependency. A common problem for any computer and any OS is, that if you have special needs, you need to tweak your computer/OS. What's your workflow, what are your gifts, what are your weak points. IMO it's easier to use Arch's package management and to build Arch packages, than to use Debian's package management and to build Debian packages. Another user from this list might claim, the most easiest is to use the package management from Suse or Redhead or Foo Bar. It all depends to your skills, needs and hardware. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq6pakz1qhadp0@freebsd
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:36:45 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Some examples I am thinking about is support for recent NVidia cards, various wifi or sound chip-sets which do not always have free drivers. The common way to solve those problems is by adding non-free repositories, and install them. It's not that easy. Sometimes there aren't or at least are no good drivers available. What is the OP using Linux for? I only can give good examples for audio, since this is the domain that is important for me. The OP should join a Linux community that does share the same or similar needs, for audio this e.g. would be the Linux audio community. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq6pyatnqhadp0@freebsd
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 01:39:55 +0100, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Linux system I'd recommend Arch instead. Which I don't call a rolling release. Arch was my preferred distro. If you have a distro with releases you can make hard transitions. For Ubuntu the transition from init to upstart wasn't an issue, for Arch the transition from init to systemd made me dropping Arch for the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq6p61w4qhadp0@freebsd
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 14:33, cr...@gtek.biz said: On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:33, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com said: Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try -? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ? Hi Lina Excuse me for replying to this message, I've managed to lose your first post. This is most likely not a corrupt file system, but rather it is probably the result of lack of execute permission on the directory. You can recreate it thusly: $ cd /tmp $ mkdir test $ export looptest=0 $ while [ $looptest -le 10 ] do touch test/test$looptest loop=`expr $looptest + 1` done *sigh* The above loop is an infinite loop. The line loop=`expr $looptest + 1 should read looptest=`expr $looptest + 1 I used loop as the variable name in my testing, and I copied that to my original reply, but after copying it I decided to change the name because looptest would be less likely to have been already defined. In trying to avoid confusion I succeeded in creating it. Just hasn't been my day. Apologies. Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1358648476.84589...@webmail.gtek.biz
Incorrect time stamps after files copied to Debian Squeeze
I am copying files from my Olimpus Voice Recorder to PC which have corresponding time stamps on recorder. When I copy files to my Ubuntu 10.04 the time stamps preserved exactly as they are on Voice Recorder. However after files copied to Debian Sqeeze, the system changes the time stamps, e.g. the file recorded at 18:24:50 (or 06:24:50PM) on Squeeze have time stamp of 10:24:50 (or 10:24:50AM). The date is preserved. Both system are configured to use UTC, update time from Internet, and otherwise not messing times in any way. Could anybody help me with this, please? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kdfp4h$th4$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [1/2OT] how to delete ??? file
On Sunday 20,January,2013 04:33 AM, cr...@gtek.biz wrote: On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:33, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com said: Yes, in my home directory. The path is /home/lina/try -? ? ? ? ?? XX.tar But it looks more to me as if this files are somehow corrupted. Did you fsck this file-system lately ? Hi Lina Excuse me for replying to this message, I've managed to lose your first post. This is most likely not a corrupt file system, but rather it is probably the result of lack of execute permission on the directory. You can recreate it thusly: $ cd /tmp $ mkdir test $ export looptest=0 $ while [ $looptest -le 10 ] do touch test/test$looptest loop=`expr $looptest + 1` done $ ls -l test total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test1 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test10 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test2 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test3 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test4 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test5 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test6 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test7 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test8 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test9 $ chmod 644 test $ ls -l test ls: cannot access test/test3: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test1: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test5: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test10: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test6: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test8: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test9: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test2: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test0: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test4: Permission denied ls: cannot access test/test7: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? test0 -? ? ? ? ?? test1 -? ? ? ? ?? test10 -? ? ? ? ?? test2 -? ? ? ? ?? test3 -? ? ? ? ?? test4 -? ? ? ? ?? test5 -? ? ? ? ?? test6 -? ? ? ? ?? test7 -? ? ? ? ?? test8 -? ? ? ? ?? test9 $ rm -f test/* rm: cannot remove `test/test0': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test1': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test10': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test2': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test3': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test4': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test5': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test6': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test7': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test8': Permission denied rm: cannot remove `test/test9': Permission denied $ chmod 755 test $ ls -l test total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test0 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test1 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test10 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test2 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test3 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test4 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test5 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test6 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test7 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test8 -rw-r--r-- 1 craig craig 0 Jan 19 13:50 test9 $ rm -f test/* $ ls -l test total 0 This is a result of needing directory execute permission in order to traverse the directory. Ha ... interesting. Indeed, thanks. Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fb749f.8090...@gmail.com
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On 01/19/2013 06:55 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 01:39:55 +0100, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Linux system I'd recommend Arch instead. Which I don't call a rolling release. Arch was my preferred distro. If you have a distro with releases you can make hard transitions. For Ubuntu the transition from init to upstart wasn't an issue, for Arch the transition from init to systemd made me dropping Arch for the moment. It is unfortunate you've been having problems. But the trouble with making transitions still doesn't make Arch not rolling release. The arch devs generally expect a certain level of diligence on the part of their users and usually make a point of putting news about impending rocky transitions on their site. But still, and don't interpret me as being aggressive here: Just because you had problems doesn't preclude a system from being rolling release. Arch is *precisely* what rolling release is. And it's my preferred model to waiting for my distributor to come around to making a new hard transition before I can get a new kernel, for example. BUT, that is a matter of preference. To the OP, and back on topic here: Debian is a wonderful system. It's fantastic for applications where you may prefer outright stability even at the expense of having latest software. Going to testing somewhat alleviates the age of packages at the sacrifice of a little quality control. Right now, since Wheezy is in the process of going stable Testing is in a general freeze, and I'm not sure how much that's affected the versions of packages. This makes testing get described as semi-rolling release though it'll still be generally more frequently updated than things such as Linux Mint Debian Edition, also reportedly a semi-rolling release. Bottom line for desktop users on Debian is your biggest issues will likely be contending with the free software enthusiasm of the Debian development team. It's a good thing, generally, but has the big disadvantage of making it very hard to get the use of your hardware unless you make use of packages often considered by Debian as unsupported. This is not generally a major roadblock except at install time if you have a wifi chipset and no physical access to your router. Wifi has an unfortunate model of requiring OS-provided firmware (An all-around poor model of hardware support, in my opinion.), which in Linux is usually supplied by firmware those like the Debian developers consider non-free and exclude from the official install media. This'll make it difficult, sometimes even impossible, to install Debian without considerable support (Or unofficial custom media with the firmware back in.). I'm not the type who gets overly concerned about licensing, though. Even the non-free stuff provided for Debian in their official repos or in many third party repos is perfectly safe and usable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fb79be.7070...@marupa.net
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:59:42 +0100, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Even the non-free stuff provided for Debian in their official repos or in many third party repos is perfectly safe and usable. non-free provided by Debian is safe regarding to third party repos the OP should ask the list for experiences of a repo he might want to add OT: Arch and transitions. There are different kinds of transitions. systemd not only stopped the rolling for many experienced users, it also caused that the mailing list became moderated and some users were completely banned from the list. IMO those banned users shouldn't have been banned. However, for Debian this isn't an issue, even if Debian will switch to systemd, for averaged desktop users nothing will change, just tons of Wikis needs to be edited. -- No good deed ever goes unpunished. Einer guten Tat folgt die Strafe auf dem Fuße! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq65i8plqhadp0@freebsd
Re: Priorities of alternatives; was Re: Re (2): xmonad and LXDE.
peasth...@shaw.ca writes: man update-alternatives has no mention of how the priorities of alternatives originate. The most reasonable explanation I can imagine is that any new alternative is assigned a lower priority than extant alternatives. Correct? The packager chooses the priority. The alternative provided is installed (by calling update-alternatives --install) from the package postinst. My example from last July. peter@dalton:~$ update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/openbox /usr/bin/openbox - priority 90 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/openbox.1.gz /usr/bin/xmonad - priority 20 Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/openbox'. Suppose that I prefer xmonad to openbox. Run update-alternatives --config x-window-manager to set your preference. You don't need to mess with priority. It only decides what will be selected automatically when packages are installed/removed. If you override by running update-alternatives --config, then the priority has no effect. One way to indulge my prefence would be to somehow impose it in the operation of startx. Apparently this is the effect of the first instruction in http://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad, ... add STARTUP=x-window-manager to your ~/.xsessionrc. A second strategy would be to find a way to raise the priority of xmonad. If my original speculation above is correct, this might be achieved by de-installing both alternatives and reinstalling in the desired order. Alternatively, by using update-alternatives directly. update-alternatives --remove x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad update-alternatives --install x-window-manager x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad 100 This would give xmonad top priority system wide and should work for a display manager as well as for startx. Comments welcome. I recommend you don't run update-alternatives --remove or --install for this purpose. For most sysadmins, --config should be sufficient. -- regards, kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fb91f4.a4d1440a.301a.c...@mx.google.com
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On 01/20/2013 12:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:59:42 +0100, Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: Even the non-free stuff provided for Debian in their official repos or in many third party repos is perfectly safe and usable. non-free provided by Debian is safe regarding to third party repos the OP should ask the list for experiences of a repo he might want to add OT: Arch and transitions. There are different kinds of transitions. systemd not only stopped the rolling for many experienced users, it also caused that the mailing list became moderated and some users were completely banned from the list. IMO those banned users shouldn't have been banned. However, for Debian this isn't an issue, even if Debian will switch to systemd, for averaged desktop users nothing will change, just tons of Wikis needs to be edited. Debian probably won't be doing the switch to systemd. Systemd required very Linux-specific kernel features and Debian has a couple non-Linux ports that'd make going systemd impractical (However I believe systemd is available in the repos and officially supported.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fb92ae.9080...@marupa.net
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
SNIP it also caused that the mailing list became moderated and some users were completely banned from the list.SNIP If you mean 'this' mailing list been moderated, my guess is you are mistaken. And are you positive about people being blacklisted? That would be pretty bad, dont you think? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301200808.21409.tchate...@free.fr
Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:08:21 +0100, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: SNIP it also caused that the mailing list became moderated and some users were completely banned from the list.SNIP If you mean 'this' mailing list been moderated, my guess is you are mistaken. And are you positive about people being blacklisted? That would be pretty bad, dont you think? No, we off-topic were talking about Arch Linux and I don't like it, that some users were banned, reps. I might be mistaken, perhaps for a long time just one user is banned and it's not me ;). However, it was about the advantage that Debian isn't a rolling release. OTOH the rolling release Arch has got other advantages, that are missing for Debian. IMO a rolling release as Arch Linux is for experienced users, since a default install even doesn't install X and even less hard transitions need some interaction. A disadvantage for Debian compared to Arch IMO is, that Debian e.g. installs and starts all kinds of services, installs all kinds of apps etc. a user might not need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wq6759ucqhadp0@freebsd
Re: Priorities of alternatives; was Re: Re (2): xmonad and LXDE.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: man update-alternatives has no mention of how the priorities of alternatives originate. The most reasonable explanation I can imagine is that any new alternative is assigned a lower priority than extant alternatives. Correct? The package postinst script will include the alternative and the priority. For example the 'nano' package with the nano editor contains: update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/editor editor /bin/nano 40 \ --slave /usr/share/man/man1/editor.1.gz editor.1.gz \ /usr/share/man/man1/nano.1.gz That priority is 40 and is assigned by the package. My example from last July. peter@dalton:~$ update-alternatives --display x-window-manager x-window-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/openbox /usr/bin/openbox - priority 90 slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/openbox.1.gz /usr/bin/xmonad - priority 20 Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/openbox'. Suppose that I prefer xmonad to openbox. One way to indulge my prefence would be to somehow impose it in the operation of startx. Apparently this is the effect of the first instruction in http://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad, ... add STARTUP=x-window-manager to your ~/.xsessionrc. That is one way. That overrides the value determined by the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup script. And there are other ways. This way is good because it is personal for you and doesn't affect others and works across boxes. A second strategy would be to find a way to raise the priority of xmonad. If my original speculation above is correct, this might be achieved by de-installing both alternatives and reinstalling in the desired order. We have been here before: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00897.html I suggested then and now: # update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Or in scripted batch mode: # update-alternatives --set x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad Order only matters among alternatives of the same priority. Alternatively, by using update-alternatives directly. Either this (configuring update-alternatives) or setting it in your dot files is probably better. update-alternatives --remove x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad update-alternatives --install x-window-manager x-window-manager /usr/bin/xmonad 100 Although that works, and it is your own system so go ahead if you feel like it, this won't be preserved when packages are installed and upgraded since they will have new package postinst scripts and won't know to preserve your changes since the changes will be marked as system automatic. But if you use --config or --set then they will be marked as manual and they will. So I think --config or --set is the better way to go. Or probably best is setting up your local files with something like STARTUP or similar above. Some time ago I posted this in a discussion about the Debian alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are used and configured. I think it is still relevant. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: taalleersoftware
Op 18-01-13 22:26, Geert Stappers schreef: Hallo, Wat is er zo al aan software in Debian om de Nederlandse taal te leren? En wat daarvan is voor kinderen in de leeftijd 7 tot 12? Wat ik ken is de software die gemaakt is voor de inburgeringscursus. Die cursus is niet voor kinderen bedoeld, maar wel vrij simpel en daardoor wellicht bruikbaar voor kinderen. Het zijn allemaal plaatjes waar je op moet klikken en dergelijke, en er zitten filmpjes tussen. Best mooi. Het wordt op een DVD geleverd, als ik het me goed herinner is het eigenlijk een website met een Apache server op localhost. Ik heb hem destijds op de harddisk gekopieerd en een shortcut gemaakt, dan functioneert het een stuk prettiger. Het aan de praat krijgen heeft me wel wat moeite gekost. Daarnaast waren er ook nog een aantal CD's bij. Ik kan er nog wel eens met kinderogen naar kijken als je het interessant vind. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50fa7aa6.5020...@vandervlis.nl
