Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:24 +0100 Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >My graphical menu calls synaptic-pkexec, and it definitely wants the As does mine. >root password, and it says so explicitly. Here, I get a different result. The requester asks for authentication but does not specify root password. In fact, using the root password fails (with the exact same details as Roger described), I *must* use the user password. Strange. Admittedly, I'm on testing, but even when I was using testing before Debian 12 (Bookworm) was released, I had the same results. That is, I *had* to enter the user password. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" We don't need no-one to tell us what's right or wrong The Modern World - The Jam pgpSjfMXGFt_n.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian 12: User calls synaptic: Unable to authenticate root
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:47:05 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: Hello Roger, >I click on "details" but all I see is "Action: >com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic". PolicyKit is installed: you must use the user's password. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgpmo53qjqg8e.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: please help app missing ...
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 15:46:56 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the >following is dangerous advice. If they installed 12, gimp is available, unless the install they did left only the install media as repo. If they really can't install gimp, due to unavailability in repos, they installed testing. Thus, OP gave conflicting information and needs to clarify *exactly* what they've done before any advice can be given. First step, as already requested, would be to post their sources list. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Go away, come back, go away, come back Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk pgpYLojh7Ux9I.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: Spectacles
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 08:54:21 -0700 "James H. H. Lampert" wrote: Hello James and Larry, >Correct. An optician can only fill a prescription written by an >ophthalmologist or an optometrist. In the UK, Opticians businesses typically have on Optometrist on the premises. Consequently, the term Optician is often used to include Optometrists. A distinction is rarely made by the general public. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere these days Bombsite Boy - The Adverts pgpj8oFIW0mxE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: BASH reference for those who are "learning by doing"?
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 16:25:04 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >Tell them to get a [very cheap] pair of single focus reading glasses >made to suit the distance their screen is away. Exactly what I did. Sure, one /can/ use [bi|tri|vari]focals, but it's a right royal PITA. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" A friend of a friend he got beaten I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs pgpPrlQDnNZFk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 15:04:40 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: Hello Steve, >expensive ink and toner lockin thing is a good reason to never give HP >money again. There has been lock in in the past (more than once, IIRC) but I use 3rd party ink carts in my machine without issue. The so-called subscription ink requirement is an option that one need not take up - my printer has the option, but I've never been *required* to use it. All that said, I'm not going to be buying HP in the future. They're treading an awful path, with no sign of improvement. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart Who Are You - Black Sabbath pgpv1zCMTFrf3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 17:06:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: Hello jeremy, >The bigger picture is that personal printing is on the way out because The bigger picture may well be the case(1), but irrelevant to the point I was making: Four trips to the print shop, and I'm out of pocket. In fairness, I /could/ avoid some of the printing I do, but that would require a second monitor and a 2nd GFX card. However, with nowhere to put that second monitor.. (1) I don't doubt that it's true. As you say, for home users. That said, it's not going to disappear entirely. At least, not in my lifetime. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers pgpE3xB41cRjV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:23:20 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: Hello jeremy, >I find the cost per page at the >big-box stores is roughly the same as the amortised cost per page of a >personal laser printer. What about the time (and, therefore, cost) of getting to/from the print shop? Time alone (for me) would add £22.88 (at minimum wage) to the cost of any print job. Factor in fuel costs, parking fees, vehicle wear and tear and depreciation, and suddenly that printer looks like a bargain. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It belongs to them, let's give it back Beds Are Burning - Midnight Oil pgpMNdYgGn33l.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:28:30 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, >thanks for your reply. Sorry for sending this useless email. I had No worries. >forgotten that I was no longer registered on the debian-user list and >when I didn't get One need not be subscribed to this list to post to it. If you're not subbed, you won't normally get replies sent to you. This, in part, lead to your confusion, I suspect. HP has two camps when it comes to Linux support, it seems. One in favour (hence HPLIP) and the other camp, somewhat against. The sales & marketing depts seem to be firmly in the latter camp. :-( >Thanks again to all four of you. You're welcome, Gerard. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" That's a good line to take it to the bridge Strong - Robbie Williams pgpkVpcgFOITu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:27:39 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but hear goes.. >tia. Four people replied to this exact same question when you asked it yesterday. Please read them. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The pgpcn7pIUrmip.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printer replacement
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:41:45 +0200 Gerard ROBIN wrote: Hello Gerard, >e "HP Smart" for Windows exclusivel HP Smart is available for Android (and probably iOS). With a suitable 'phone you can set up an HP printer. It's how I did it here. Different model, but even so. Once set up, you can locate the printer in HPLIP, and all is well. All that said, since HP aren't making moves toward compatibility and ease of use, when I have to buy a new printer, it won't be an HP device. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Only the wounded remain, the generals have all left the game Generals - The Damned pgpAyx4HDMTu_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: email service providers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 20:24:32 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >So on the off chance that I had done something in my sleep, I changed >my password, and mail is now downloading. :-) Glad you're going again. TBH, it's a bit rubbish of them to claim you need to pay to get POP/IMAP and then not enforce it. > As the Toyota ad said several years ago bugga Not in the UK, it didn't. At least, not that I can recall. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Bet you thought you knew what I was about Problem - Sex Pistols pgpEdwcmmXkah.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: email service providers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 19:35:29 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >I have tried to subscribe to mail.com at their website - to be told mail.com and (incidentally) gmx.com have both 'required' subscription for pop/imap connection for years. I don't pay either of them. I get my mail from both via POP3 without problem. They both have (last time I looked) the required settings on their web sites. I can also send via SMTP through both. Again, without issue. FYI: GMX & mail.com are both 1&1 companies, hence the more than similar look to their sites(read: they're almost identical). The only pertinent differences are their postal addresses. Germany for GMX and USA for mail. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Only the wounded remain, the generals have all left the game Generals - The Damned pgp4j5LxN1SwT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:44:03 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >don't allow search engines to crawl their sites. I hadn't even considered that. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" We are the chosen Changed - Judgement Centre pgpZbr4EGGZrN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: Hello Nate, >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI Discourse also does this; Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply. Whilst it's not impossible to use their shite, err, site, with a niche browser, they do their best to try and stop one. Of course, they're not the only organisation that use such tactics. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Do you want to play? Play With Me - Extreme pgpXSXaScvmHA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:15:21 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Ian Molton wrote: Hello Ian, >Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join Don't know. Never considered switching. From the web forums I have used, I've ascertained that they offer nothing that can't be done on a mailing list, and they're a whole lot less convenient. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Just coz they do it in the movies, doesn't mean to say that it's cool Keep It Clean - The Vibrators pgpd27OgpeYCX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 09:35:22 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Ian Molton wrote: Hello Ian, >An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons. Same for most MLs; People think web forums are better. Passive/aggressive messages don't help, either. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" We are the League, we are the anti band We're The League - Anti-Nowhere League pgpnHLezfIjXT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hplip: hp-check error in line 630 since last update
On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:55:55 +0200 Daniel Schröter wrote: Hello Daniel, >thanks for this information. Sounds more then similar ;-) :-) Thought so. I implemented the fix here, and can confirm hplip is up and running again. Good luck. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Tired of doing day jobs with no thanks for what I do Do Anything You Wanna Do - Eddie & The Hotrods pgpP7mK4n6dVQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hplip: hp-check error in line 630 since last update
On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:01:30 +0200 Daniel Schröter wrote: Hello Daniel, > >I opened a bug report but didn't get an answer. >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1076210 > >Someone has a workaround? See; https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1075760 Which is very similar to your report. There is a solution there. There's also mention of an nmu upload in a few days time. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's not your heart, it's your bank I want to break It's Yer Money - Wonder Stuff pgpi6TdxbLsaz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem with conda
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 15:31:59 -0400 "Stephen P. Molnar" wrote: Hello Stephen, >I downloaded a new copy of Miniconda3-latest-Linux-x89_64.s You say nothing about where you got this from but, assuming it's https://docs.anaconda.com/miniconda/ your problem may well be that what you downloaded requires Python3.12.4 but Bookworm only has Python3.11.2 -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Age of destruction, age of oblivion Neuromancer - Billy Idol pgpuhAMmXEncv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Installing gitlab on sid
On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 12:24:16 +0200 Lucio Crusca wrote: Hello Lucio, >Am I doing anything wrong or should I file a bug report? Look at the package page, then developer page for gitlab and then for its dependencies. You'll find that ruby-sidekiq has yet to hit sid - it's still in experimental. No idea why the delay; Dev page offers little explanation (which is unusual). As Dan suggests; Talk to the people directly involved. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" No you can't hop into my shower Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk pgpw5nwULev6C.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:35:14 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >+14:00?? I've only ever heard of maxima of +/- 12:00. AFAIAC, it was political willy waving, nothing more; To be 'first' into the new millennium. As if that has any cachet whatsoever. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Bet you thought you had it all worked out Problem - Sex Pistols pgplcLohiRzmY.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:01:10 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >Not to mention some cultures change how words are spelt: colour, odour, >metres to quote a few. Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a 'best guess'. Oh, and in the UK, we used to spell it labor, too. It changed over the years to conform with colour, etc. Not sure why, but possibly to do with the Victorians insisting that language should conform to (largely mathematical) rules. However, as a keen family historian, with many certificates with people's occupation on, one can witness the changes in spelling over a decade or so, on that paperwork. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" There's no point in asking you'll get no reply Pretty Vacant - Sex Pistols pgpB0QnVCijY0.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Modifying Desktop Icons
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 20:55:12 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >or just try it! It works pefectly well with a single hyphen. Now, yes. However, at some point, that may no longer be the case. When (perhaps) somebody notices that actually behaviour differs from documented behaviour. At which point, all the scripts stop working. This is (one) reason why using undocumented features is a Bad Thing™. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Do you want to play? Play With Me - Extreme pgp1_yxqZmMy3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:45:49 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: Hello Max, >On 08/06/2024 00:48, Hans wrote: >> BUT - grub-efi-amd64-bin conflicts with grub-efi-amd64-bin-signed >No it does not. I have both installed. I think, the latter needs .mod The pedant in me would point out that actually, no, you don't. Read that second package name again. It doesn't exist. Of course, I'm pretty certain that Hans typed the wrong thing and meant to type 'grub-efi-amd64-signed'. No -bin-. From my (limited) searching, it seems 'signed' & 'bin' are mutually exclusive in grub package names and thus, if you have a '-signed' package, there must be a corresponding '-bin' package installed for things to work. Typographical mistakes are the main reason error messages, commands, and what-not, should be copy/pasted in their entirety and not typed from memory. Remember: Mistakes, like bad news, travel fast. :-) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" We don't need no-one to tell us what's right or wrong The Modern World - The Jam pgpBDcHX9UGs3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 11:47:59 +0200 DdB wrote: Hello DdB, >BTW: the GNOME team did that to me repeatedly In fairness, it's not just Gnome that erodes features. TBH, they *all* do it. I've seen features removed from Plasma, Claws Mail, Tellico, loads of stuff. Worst of all is when the removal goes without comment. From anyone. Often the reason given boils down to "too difficult to maintain". Well okay, but it's still difficult to stomach when you're reliant on said feature. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" If we're working class, why ain't we got jobs? Insane Society - Menace pgpuuK72Cr_yx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 14:01:58 -0400 Paul M Foster wrote: Hello Paul, >Nope. On a 3 phase system with individual phases at 120V, you will never In the UK, each phase is nominally 240V, not 120V. That's why David mentioned 440V between phases. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" No you can't hop into my shower Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk pgpks7VNwJwB3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 18:11:48 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >I have a powerline adapter (Devolo units). There's no such restriction, >as far as I know. My powerline transmitter and receiver are certainly >on different circuits. Fair enough. Different from what I (thought) I remembered. Renders much of the rest of my reply moot, obviously. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Save me from myself Prisoners - Judgement Centre pgpvWtxLeU5pZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:31:29 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: Hello mick.crane, >Is there not some system that runs ethernet over the mains wiring or >did I misunderstand it. Yes, there is. I believe you're thinking of powerline adaptors. They do require everything be on the same circuit, however. The way electrical wiring is done in the UK often means separate floors are on different circuits, and in larger properties, each floor might be on two (or more) circuits, making it difficult, at best, to get the whole building networked this way. And that's assuming ring circuits, if everything is on a radial, you're stymied. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You can't go in if you don't look right Outlaw - Chron Gen pgp0IKINIGihC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 11:35:25 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, >people. I don't know that it would add enough value to cover the >cost of doing it, though. Almost certainly not; Social housing where I live is non-existent because, according to the builders, the land costs more than they would be able to sell the housing for. However, this somewhat Off Topic, so I'll leave it there. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's your life so go your own way Questions And Answers - Sham 69 pgpfFtSJsSi_N.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Mon, 27 May 2024 18:19:10 -0500 David Wright wrote: Hello David, >We didn't meet any lack of understanding. Rather, the problem is which >rooms do you connect, and precisely where do you place the wallplates. That's what I meant, really. Christ, they can't even place power outlets sensibly in many instances. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Looking for something I can call my own Chairman Of The Bored - Crass pgpqkvbwFZb8h.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "Repeaters", etc.
On Mon, 27 May 2024 17:09:02 -0400 Paul M Foster wrote: Hello Paul, >for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local Cost Lack of understanding (in the building trade) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I guess I shouldn't have strangled her to death Ugly - The Stranglers pgp05e8fUcwZc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Uninstalling a package and its entourage
On Mon, 27 May 2024 10:57:54 -0400 Eben King wrote: Hello Eben, >Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought >in at one swell foop? Thanks. apt/apt-get autoremove or apt/apt-get autoremove --purge The first removes the packages installed as dependencies, the second, additionally, removes configuration files (but not those in ~) Synaptic will show a list of auto-removable packages. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" The public wants what the public gets Going Underground - The Jam pgpp7I1DNkRiq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Continuous integration with Debian virtual machines
On Mon, 27 May 2024 10:00:02 + André Rodier wrote: Hello André, >Anyone know a hosting service, like GitHub or GitLab, offering recent >Debian You asked, and were answered, yesterday. It would be preferable to continue in that thread, rather than start a new one. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Hey there, Mr Average, you don't exist, you never did Persons Unknown - Poison Girls pgporAi1L4PrA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: no more sound after upgrade (trixie/sid)
On Sun, 26 May 2024 13:16:28 +0200 Kamil Jońca wrote: Hello Kamil, >About 2 years ago I got new laptop. Sweeping generalisation coming; Laptops can be troublesome for Linux when they're fairly recently released. Largely because the makers play fast and loose with accepted standards and cut corners to keep costs down. Often, Linux has to 'catch up' as it were. Even then the process relies on somebody having access to the affected machinery for long enough to come up with solutions for said machine's shortcomings. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Early morning when I wake up I look like Kiss but without the make-up Strong - Robbie Williams pgph6tyiDbzr6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs
On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:11:16 +0200 Richard wrote: Hello Richard, >"Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied >to) is literally industry standard behavior. This 'literally' isn't industry. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Is she really going out with him? New Rose - The Damned pgp8KT3gXNAal.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex
On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:27:58 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: Hello Thomas, >Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack >its birth name ? Happens all the time (just saying - not condoning); Solid State Drive - referring to HDs without moving parts. BITD, Solid State referred to equipment that operates using transistors, not valves. By that definition, *all* HDs are Solid State. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I must be hallucinating, watching angels celebrating There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart) - Eurythmics pgpYcSjDZvFzD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Cindex
On Mon, 13 May 2024 05:10:13 +1000 David wrote: Hello David, >The best thing to do would be to ask them. Surely this is off-topic here. From the FAQ; What platforms does Cindex run on? Any supported version of Windows, including 10 and 11 macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) and up Unless I've missed something. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Early morning when I wake up I look like Kiss but without the make-up Strong - Robbie Williams pgpGC1ns_1RyE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian bookworm japanese kana input disabled
On Thu, 9 May 2024 10:06:29 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: Hello Michael, >However, I seem to have had a similar issue even after upgrading to >the first regression-fixed glib2.0 packages on Bookworm. Specifically, >dead keys no longer working with the Swedish keyboard layout, and >instead acting as though I didn't press any key at all. Is it possible that, without at least logging out and back in, the broken version of the library is still in use? -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Words as weapons, sharper than knives Devil Inside - INXS pgpLB3jEQkwp1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: time_t transitions in testing
On Fri, 03 May 2024 12:11:22 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: Hello mick.crane, >Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see >them" Quite a few here, too. Although not as many as you had; 46 packages removed 46 packages installed (t64 versions of the packages removed) 309 packages upgraded However.. I have noticed that GTK apps, after 'waking up' computer when screen is powered off, don't behave nicely(1). I use KDE Plasma for DE, in X. I'm playing with power saving settings (i.e. turning them off) to work around the issue (restarting each app does the necessary if that fails), and will see if things improve over the next few days. Lots of kde & qt stuff has been upgraded and things may be a little 'off' on my system. Oh, I did reboot because of the kernel and kde/qt updates. (1) Buttons don't respond to mouseover events, and the window displays contents from other apps on different desktops. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's cool to know nothin' Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs pgp837htAjaEK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: time_t transitions in testing
On Fri, 3 May 2024 01:11:31 -0400 songbird wrote: Hello songbird, > mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was >being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable >and that seems to have happened. This has been my experience, too. I will also add my thanks to the many, many, people that make this possible; Thank you, one and all. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Down the stairs no one cares, he who wins is he who dares Disco Man - The Damned pgpdp_nZ8jTbx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client
On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 15:48:09 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, >Yes but: both gdb and nfs-client installed fine. Moreover, the >nfs-client doesn't appear to be a dependency of any of the massive load >of files updated lately. The gdb package however is but for some This transition is ongoing; Just because a package is uninstallable today, doesn't mean the same will be true tomorrow. Sometimes, dependencies transfer in the wrong order. Minor point; nfs-client doesn't appear to exist in Debian. At least, not according my search of https://packages.debian.org Closest packages I could find are nfs-common or ndb-client. >Shouldn't autoremove only offer to remove packages that used to be a >dependency but aren't currently (i.e. their status has changed)? There are lots of inter-dependant relationships (that I don't even pretend to understand). It's not as simple as 'X doesn't depend on Y, so it should not be removed'. There's (nearly) always other things going on at such times as this. For example, it's not until today I could get libllvmt64 to install, and replace, libllvm. For several days, attempting the replacement would have ended up with broken packages, so the upgrade was not allowed. Sometimes, only upgrading a subset of the packages offered can help; apt isn't perfect at resolving all the issues. Assuming the issues are solvable in the first place. This is not a criticism of apt, because aptitude and synaptic can have difficulties, too. Each tool has its foibles. On top of all that, I've found quite a few library packages don't automatically migrate to their t64 counterpart. Whether that's by accident or design, IDK. What I do know is that the act of installing (manually) the t64 version will force the removal of the old version. There's usually a 'complaint' about such an action (warning about removing an in use library), but it proceeds without problems. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Two sides to every story Public Image - Public Image Ltd pgpKK8g09RESF.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client
On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:51:01 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, >Not looking for a solution. Just reporting a spate of oddities I've >encountered lately. As Erwan says, this is 'normal'. Especially ATM due to the t64 transition. As you've found out, paying attention to removals is a Good Idea(tm). Sometimes those removals cannot be avoided. Of course, removal of 'library' to be replaced with 'libraryt64' is absolutely fine. If the upgrade wants to remove (say) half of the base packages of KDE, waiting a few days would be prudent. :-D You may also notice quite a few packages being reported as "local or obsolete". This is expected as certain packages have had to be removed from testing to enable a smoother flow of the transition. Many will return in due course. I do know of one exception, however; deborphan has bee removed from testing and, as things stand, it looks like it might be permanent - I fully understand why, but I shall mourn its passing, as I find it to be quite handy for weeding out cruft. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" He looked the wrong way at a policeman I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs pgpNgF_iNx5wu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: youtube-dl blocked?
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:50:06 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >The youtube-dl package in Debian 12 is a transitional package which >brings in yt-dlp (version 2023.03.04-1 currently). v2024.somethingorother is in stable-backports. Let's face it: yt do their level best to stop stuff like this working, so the latest version being available via the backport mechanism can only be a Good Thing(tm) IMO. :-) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Gary don't need his eyes to see, Gary and his eyes have parted company Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts pgpu50qleKc9K.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: On user expectations (Was Re: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian)
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:35:58 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, >I suspect that your text above has come out sounding more entitled >than you intended, as English is not your first language. In fairness to Hans, he did go on to explain as much. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You couldn't find your feet, if you were looking for them I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers pgpM3tCH2hMFt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:38:18 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I only hope, it will not happen the same fate like usermin and webmin >happened to: It was once removed from the repoi with th ereason >"spagehetti code, bad code" and then no one ever took a look again to Which, no doubt, makes it harder to patch (if necessary). >And webmin and usermin are still developed! Based on the foregoing (i.e. above), they were exceptional cases. >This is not mourning, please note, just things, I am just reflect my >watchings. Yeah, we all do it. Sometimes. :-) I desire the return of certain behaviours in various programs, but it's never going to happen; I just had to get used to it. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Hey there, Mr Average, you don't exist, you never did Persons Unknown - Poison Girls pgpuVd_7ZHoYR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:26 +0200 Erwan David wrote: Hello Erwan, >What scares me is seeing part of 18 ongoing transition, and 4 "coming >soon transitions" with "please do not upload if it is not related to >the transition". Several (well, lots of) transitions have landed at pretty the same time. IME they're usually quite safe - just the occasional oddity, like the occasional, temporary, package removal. This set is going to bite deep, I think. Ultimately, though, it'll be fine, I'm sure. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" All these things are mine! Money is Not Our God - Killing Joke pgpSk1qKHqKd_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:18:23 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hello Vincent, >Actually, if I understand correctly, LibreOffice will really be >removed on some architectures (armhf ppc64el s390x mips64el riscv64). >Fortunately, I am not concerned by this removal (only by the fact >that my bug reports were closed, but this has now been fixed). Indeed; There's a lot going on ATM, and it's almost inevitable that "stuff"(1) happens at times like this. Thankfully it was, easily, and quickly, sorted. (1) i.e. mistakes get made. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" The deadbeats and the dispossessed, the seekers of unlikeliness Street Of Dreams - The Damned pgpn7QigR3_q1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:35:57 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hello Vincent, >If this is not permanent, why have all the bugs been closed? That I have no answer for. I was basing my "this is not permanent" on the fact that there are a large number of auto-transitions currently ongoing, and many packages are, as a result, are being affected(1). I thought that LO was caught up in it all. Based on all the bug closures (I had no idea that was the case until you mentioned it), I am at a loss to know what's occurring(2). (1) currently only a handful of packages installed on my system have been removed from testing, but I expect that number to grow before things start getting back to 'normal' (2) Thomas' message sheds light, I think. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses pgp3QJ8smLWk5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:12:39 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hello Vincent, >Is there any reason why LibreOffice has been removed from Debian??? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libreoffice Has all the info you need, and more. Expect it to be removed from testing, too. This is not permanent. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I'm not here for your entertainment U & Ur Hand - P!nk pgph23bxnEwkU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Root password strength
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:46:04 +0100 Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Hello Pierre-Elliott, >You have a rather bad cybersecurity approach. I use password generators and vaults for all my passwords. Nothing wrong with my cyber-security. Also note that I put 'written down' in single quotes - it was meant to indicate that the term could be a euphemism for such things as stored in a password vault, a secure note on a mobile phone, and so on. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" White people going to school, where they teach you to be thick White Riot - The Clash pgpAeRFB5k2S7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Root password strength
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:09:31 +0100 Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Hello Pierre-Elliott, >Most of the time, writing down a password is a very bad idea. Not in your own home. And in any event, it depends where one keeps that 'written down' password. And if it *does* become an issue at home, you've got bigger, more immediate, problems to deal with; Of the intruder variety. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Kill joy, bad guy, big talking, small fry Death On Two Legs - Queen pgpL80qZ__gan.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How does the 64bits time_t transition work?
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:22:16 +0100 Detlef Vollmann wrote: Hello Detlef, >Is there a description anywhere how the 64bit time transition works? I'm far from an expert, but from what I've read, this transition is *huge*. Possibly the largest that has ever occurred in Debian. It's going to take time to get it done. Lots, and lots, of time. In the meanwhile, it means a good deal of disruption in Sid/unstable. You should already be aware that running sid comes with certain difficulties, and if you're not prepared/willing to deal with them then, in all likelihood, Sid isn't for you. Following Marco's advice would be a good first step, IMO. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Walking through town is quite scary I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs pgpjt0vtGOW_8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spam from the list?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:36:25 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I do not believe, it is a training problem. Why? Well, your formerly >mail was marked as spam. So I marked it as ham. Now, your second mail >again is marked as spam. Spam/ham training is not, IME, a single shot affair. However, as you go on to say, this particular issue is in all likelihood due to forces outside of our control. At which point, I'll hand over to people far more experienced than I. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You criticize us, you say we're sh*t, but we're up here doin' it We're The League - Anti-Nowhere League pgpPJCjXv8hya.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spam from the list?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:53:49 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >It should be well trained Spam training is an ongoing process >But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to >another, although I had changed nothing. because the spam changes. What's coming now is new, and SA has not seen it before. You have to train it. Equally, what you consider ham can change - for example, when you subscribe to a new mailing list that caters to a subject not encountered by you before because of, say, taking up a new hobby. I've been using my spam filtering set up for years too, and I still get the occasional false positive. I mark them as ham to (hopefully) improve spam filtering here. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams pgpW7BRD_vUWU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spam from the list?
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 11:19:27 +0100 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >Does one see any reason, why this is considered as spam??? Further to what Thomas says; You haven't told your spam filtering that it's ham. If you don't train your spam filters, it's never going to get any better at detecting what you consider to be ham/spam. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgp8hb40F8jjN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:09:34 +0100 Mansour Nasri wrote: Hello Mansour, >Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th-gen with >Nvidia {cut} You asked this, or a very similar question, on 29 Feb. You had two responses that I saw. I suggest you review those replies and respond accordingly. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The pgpj5DMEWWoAs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: missing development package?
On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:56:54 + debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >Does the # character at the start of the deb-src line matter? Yes; It comments out deb-src as a repo, so it can't/won't be used. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" The stakes were high but the danger low Charade - Skids pgpk335bj7i_u.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: “Secure Connection Failed” Error in Firefox
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 12:26:20 -0300 Marcelo Laia wrote: Hello Marcelo, >website https://gontijoonibus.gontijo.com.br/ on I get the same results as Greg - in several browsers. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I hope I live to relive the days gone by Old Before I Die - Robbie Williams pgpuwr_glqCXn.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: packages.debian.org seems to be down
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 09:14:14 +0100 Harald Dunkel wrote: Hello Harald, >is it just me, or is https://packages.debian.org/ down? I had a >similar problem yesterday morning. Home page loads, but clicking on "View Packages..." links result in a 503 error. Other links are working (probably because they lead to pages not on the packages server farm). Searches time out. Again, with a 503 error. Somethings amiss. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I'll be the rubbish you'll be the bin Love Song - The Damned pgpDce1T9hIFJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Data and hardware protection measures; was: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:19:55 +0100 hw wrote: Hello hw, >How do you know in advance when the battery will have failed? Even my very basic UPS (APC Backup 1400) has a light on the front labelled "Replace Battery". That, combined with a very annoying high pitch scream, are pretty good motivators to do the job. I know the Backup 1400 was mentioned in this thread as "probably avoid" (or something similar), but it's served me well thus far. Had to replace the battery pack only once. That was after ten years, not the three to five that people have been talking about. APC no longer sell that model, but battery packs are still available. Just as an FYI, the battery packs are sealed Lead-Acid. Where I live (UK), it's possible to sell lead-acid batteries to scrap merchants. Amount paid is variable and subject to massive market forces that are best described as 'volatile'. Like others have mentioned with some of the more basic APC devices, this particular model isn't designed with user replaceable batteries in mind, but it's not an overly difficult task. It can't easily (if at all) be done leaving connected devices powered up, though. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" They take away our freedom in the name of liberty Suspect Device - Stiff Little Fingers pgpqAXSSxvoLF.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:07:26 -0600 David Wright wrote: Hello David, >The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16. >Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. Create >subdirectories and the problem goes away. Yes, this is exactly what I experienced. So not the FAT at fault, but rather the 'ecosystem'. How time plays trick on one's memory. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams pgp_96fXkiXqi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: playing CDROM music questions
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 16:15:27 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >Pictures or it did not happen. Didn't bother because it appeared to be a well-understood phenomenon, based on my limited research. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I'm not here for your entertainment U & Ur Hand - P!nk pgphyuPBCFJB5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: playing CDROM music questions
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 13:25:52 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long >filenames. Seen it happen; Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because the FAT was filled, and overwritten from the start by files added later in the session. We are talking in excess of 20,000 (not difficult to achieve with over 1000 CDs to rip) files here, mixed case, and long file names, all. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's only bits of plastic, lines projected on the wall Keep It Clean - The Vibrators pgpY9oz8w1d5M.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: playing CDROM music questions
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 21:09:54 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: Hello Michael, >Alternatively, they also offer SanDisk SDXC 128 GB memory cards at $14 >a piece. One such will easily hold 1000 CDs at near-CD quality MP3. Depends; I ended up buying three smaller sticks, because the limitations of the file system meant that the File Allocation Table got filled up wy before the larger capacity memory sticks did. I would point out that, since the sticks were bought for use in my car, reformatting to ext4 (for example) was not an option. Even with the smaller sticks, I had to use all upper case, and stick to 8.3 names for the files, otherwise the FAT still got overloaded. Of course, if you're going to reformat the sticks then the foregoing issues are moot. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I want those who get to know me to become admirers or my enemies Friend or Foe - Adam Ant pgpNCaahBYzGq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Dealing with SPAM.
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: Hello Zenaan, >OMG money! I, being Debian User it The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the list *again*. Thank you. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Just stop and take a second U & Ur Hand - P!nk pgpEDguGGW5Fi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500 Pocket wrote: Hello Pocket, > Forwarded Message Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is very rude indeed. Given that it was announced by sender beforehand that they would reply privately, I'm absolutely certain they did not agree to the message being forwarded here. May you live in interesting times. (ancient insult) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" We're going to hell anyway, let's travel first class Saturday Night - Kaiser Chiefs pgpyCHcTafX1e.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: lists
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:08:54 +0100 Marco Moock wrote: Hello Marco, >He can read that list via Usenet because it is gatewayed to it Thank you; I'm aware there are several ways to read the messages. I was merely pointing out the (perhaps) obvious. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Well you tried it just the once and found it alright for kicks Orgasm Addict - Buzzcocks pgp4FjpEqG8TE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: lists
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:13:12 -0500 Pocket wrote: Hello Pocket, >Every 60 days I get kicked from this list which I receive an email >stating my kick value is 2%. Sounds as though something is rejecting posts at your mail provider. Hence you get kicked. You don't need to be subbed to post to the list. Of course, you won't receive any posts from the list. Persist with the administrative posts to the list and you'll find that more and more people will kill file you. You may even find that people start complaining about you to list admin. If enough people complain, you could wind up getting banned from the list. Jut a few things to bear in mind. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Kill joy, bad guy, big talking, small fry Death On Two Legs - Queen pgpAJmEktN8Bg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mouse single click handling?
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET) local10 wrote: Hello local10, > So I thought perhaps there was a way to fix them instead of buying a > new one every 6-12 months. Replace the flaky switch. If you're not happy wielding a soldering iron, get a friend to do it - assuming you know someone competent at soldering. Failing that, when you come to buy a new mouse, pay more; That way, one would hope, that the quality of parts would be better, making for a longer life. My mouse developed similar behaviour; LMB(1) became very touchy. I replaced the switch about three years ago and am still using the same device now. The mouse is now over a decade old. Also, it's a good idea to give your mouse a darn good clean every now and then. This means taking it apart to get all the dust and other cruft out that accumulates over time. (1) IME it's almost always LMB that fails - it gets far more use than RMB. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Early morning when I wake up I look like Kiss but without the make-up Strong - Robbie Williams pgpQcbHKUviCT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Security vulnerability at curl package: CVE-2023-44487: HTTP/2 Rapid Reset
On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:56:28 + "Marold Marcus (DC-AE/ESW1)" wrote: Hello Marold, Firstly, we're (for the most part) users, not developers. >I would like to request an upgrade of the curl package (Linux Ubuntu >Core 22 / Secondly, we're _Debian_ users not Ubuntu. You'll have to take it up with Ubuntu. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Makes you wonder how the other half die Devil Inside - INXS pgpUQA0ta4an1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:15:56 -0600 Mike McClain wrote: Hello Mike, >A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting >up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how >to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it. Without knowing what you've done, or what errors you receive I can only suggest you start here; https://help.yahoo.com/kb/frontier/SLN3792.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAG4cywIUVM3DYW6VMJeB1xaQhcvotPg06bOVj7Tb3448LcW98YDlSSI1OkiM4pvd7XeUtYcONDXOfK3QNQo_2RENbJHWxu886aFSXyIIQOiwej-BaH-m5hkpIaUvRM8FMziZ13JvH-SstaPrJrRhlHTSNJCzv_R7CSAdhJOhI-Ql&_guc_consent_skip=1700504498 Specifically the part Verify POP or IMAP settings. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You can't go in if you don't look right Outlaw - Chron Gen pgpqXZMVXGJqE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:57:03 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:31:31 +0000 >Brad Rogers wrote: >> Can be altered in Prefs. >> Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. >Thank you. I never told it to do that. I think (but don't quote me) it's the default in CM. And with the large number of settings, it's easy to miss it. Took me a while to find the right section before responding to to your post: I *know* it's there somewhere.. :-l -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Does she always shout at you, does she tell you what to do Family Life - Sham 69 pgpGci1JQM421.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not Can be altered in Prefs. Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I can't do a thing 'cause I can't relax Independence Day - Comsat Angels pgpEhP2JQCGAj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:57:34 -0300 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Hello Eduardo, >It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced" >users that use good MUA. Now *I'm* shocked (like Andy Smith is). I haven't ever used web mail, so had no idea. >And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with >proper threading. Don't read mail on my phone, either. Thus, have never looked for the offerings there. Sounds as though I'd hate it. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I'm in need of your help now Burn - Judgement Centre pgpQ9QDS3gmGr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, {gmail web interface} > that people put up with that. If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of people that fall in to that category), then they have no experience of anything else and quite possibly know no better. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's only bits of plastic, lines projected on the wall Keep It Clean - The Vibrators pgps28bkTXXkZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: claws-mail
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:09:55 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >> >I seem to recall IMAP is a better choice than POP when using Claws. >> It makes no difference. >To whom? The OP's problem, or hypothetically? Sorry, I was not explicit; No difference to CM. POP3 and IMAP (etc, etc.) are protocols CM handles well. It also makes no difference to OP, personal preference aside, of course. >It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing list. I think Already on it. Although I rarely post there these days. Never when it comes to setting up google; I've never done it, so have no advice to offer. Other than 'Don't' :-) And you're right, there are often messages about setting CM up. Most often with google. Those people usually expect things to 'just work' and can get overwhelmed by CMs options. Additionally, google don't make it easy to use software they don't approve of (read: isn't theirs). -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgp_2I6sODVKd.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: claws-mail
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:22:13 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >I seem to recall IMAP is a better choice than POP when using Claws. It makes no difference. Many people prefer IMAP, certainly. Equally, there are those that prefer POP3 - myself among them. Of course, with google, it's largely academic; They keep them all, anyway. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You destroyed my confidence, you broke my nerve Nervous Wreck - Radio Stars pgp8eqz09FY6g.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: claws-mail
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:39:02 + (UTC) mike.junk...@att.net wrote: Hello mike.junk...@att.net, >I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to get claws-mail working Head over to https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users Maybe even subscribe to their list. Expect to have to give people some useful information, like what error messages you receive and what version of CM you're using. The latter makes a difference, *especially* with google because older versions won't do Oauth2. Expect to have to do some work in CM and at google's site to enable successful mail transfers to take place. Other providers should be easier to set up. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Gary don't need his eyes to see, Gary and his eyes have parted company Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts pgpmIzDTBmcWe.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: limit on attachment in mail to list
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 19:01:57 -0600 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Hello Nicholas, > >Or maybe they are used to the more recently-devised file sharing >services which let you exchange zillions of much larger files than this >list allows, but every hour. On any given day I might listen to several You/they go there voluntarily. No one's forcing you to. Forcing everyone on a ML to d/l one's 1meg+ attachment is a very different thing. >It's a different use-case but the thoughts are all the same: Have you 'lack of thoughts' more like. >ever used, say, an S3 bucket for your Debian EC2 VM in Amazon cloud? No. No VM. No Amazon. More generally - No cloud services. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I don't care about anyone else I just care about me I Just Care About Me - Stiff Little Fingers pgp96szBswl1_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: limit on attachment in mail to list
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800 hlyg wrote: Hello hlyg, >how do you defend debian's vagueness that Large attachments are >discouraged? It's not really a matter of vagueness on Debian's part, but politeness on the sender's part. It's easy to forget that not everyone has an always on, unlimited download, internet account. For those people still on dial up, with limited data allowances, we should avoid attachments. Especially large ones. Personally, I'm dismayed that so many lists now allow multiple megabyte attachments to be sent to their lists. Quite often, I see 80-90kbyte (and more) images that show an error requester with text that could be typed out in 60 characters or less. There's no need for that image to be sent. (sweeping generalisation coming) People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant, and suffer from a massive sense of entitlement. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" If a thought came in your head it would die of loneliness I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers pgpcB7xFEO6ac.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian.org - broken Download link.
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 21:20:04 +0700 Dmitry wrote: Hello Dmitry, >https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso Appears to have been updated/corrected. Now works, d/l'ing Debian 12.2 after recent point release. Transitional error, I suspect - Debian is a big web site with lots of links to update. I bet it's not done manually. In any event, it takes time to get everything updated correctly. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Never much liked playing there anyway Banned From The Roxy - Crass pgpY7Z_xjrgpN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Letting Windows go: scanning
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:17:14 -0400 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Hello Timothy, >When I used to use HP MFD's I used to have to connect to it with USB to >get scanning. I do not know if network scanning is now supported or not. My HP 8012e (a wifi only device) scans happily. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's becoming an obsession Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods pgpPX6GKp_3cY.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: bookworm and network connections
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >Because we've already deleted the message from person I can understand that for the occasional slip up (1), but when the perpetrator does it habitually (1) Over-zealous with the delete key, for example. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Go away, come back, go away, come back Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk pgphIt_BzTOTC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: bookworm and network connections
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:08:37 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >I did not write any of the text you quote. You did, but it was not what Timothy was responding to. What you wrote was quoted right at the bottom of the message, and irrelevant to Timothy's response. Which begs the question: Why do some people respond to a message from person Y, when they're /actually/ dealing with something written by person X? -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Down the stairs no one cares, he who wins is he who dares Disco Man - The Damned pgpTaJekfJmWO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: bookworm and network connections
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:02:31 -0600 "D. R. Evans" wrote: Hello D., >So how do I fix this so that the networking is configured to work >correctly during the boot sequence, as it has always done before? I had changing ethernet port issues and found that creating /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link with the stanza --8X- [Match] MACAddress=AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF # Substitute the real MAC address [Link] Name=ethN # Replace N with something unique (e.g. 0) --8X--- works well. I see no reason that creating two stanzas with (I hope) the obvious changes, one for each i/f, should fail. Now somebody's bound to come along and say "No, there's a better way." :-) -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS pgpWQA_JWIojc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:57:29 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >thanks for the fast response. Yes, you are correct, my information was >not much. No probs. >This issue appeared suddenly from one day to another and he swore, he >had nothing done except shutting down and starting. When someone swears they "only $AnyThing" it's almost axiomatic they did something - whatever it might be.. >It might be, that I installed the localisation from 7.5 on LO-7.4, as >both are in the repo. At the moment, I can not recheck it. OTOH, if you/they installed LO from (say) stable, and the localisation from backports, that may explain the issue. Can't check here, as I'm on Testing (which doesn't exhibit the fault you're encountering). >Libreoffice started, then the splash screen appeared and the progress >bar was a fifth of the whole bar. Here it hangs for about 10 minutes Sounds almost as if LO had shut down improperly and is trying to rebuild/create the database. However, the crash dialog usually comes up pretty quickly, IME. The only way beyond this point is to get hold of the machine, I think. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Did you do it for fame, did you do it in a fit? Identity - X-Ray Spex pgpQczacGwNeu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:51:35 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I also discovered, that the installation of libreoffice-l10n-de will >deinstall several lib With little in the way of information from you, we can only guess, but the first thing to check is that the localisation package is the same version as the rest of LO. Further; Stable, Testing or Sid? -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's got nothing to do with the need to impress Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgpksg5xD90PU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Not authorized to run synaptic
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 10:11:01 -0300 Bruno Schneider wrote: Hello Bruno, >Apparently, some service needed to be restarted, because the problem >went away after a reboot. Perhaps policykit? Almost certainly; Here, Synaptic required root password *until* policykit was installed (as a dependency of another package) when things changed and Synaptic now requires user's password. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Do you want to play? Play With Me - Extreme pgp6bJmVytVpa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: General Questions
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:01:22 +0600 Tatoka wrote: Hello Tatoka, >1. Is Subscribing to mailing list free? Yes. All that's needed is a valid email address to sign up with. >2. I have problem with ClamAv: Sorry, can't help with that as I have no experience with ClamAV. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The pgpeIKypZ_ci_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Trojan
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:20:37 +0100 Alain D D Williams wrote: Hello Alain, >Sorry if I came across as overly cynical. You didn't. The same can't be said for me, though. ;-) >It would be nice if they also went after the perps/crims behind >phishing emails‡‡ Not the job of government. Not directly, I mean. They have agencies to deal with that sort of thing. Almost certainly undermanned and and under funded. Plus, of course, when the emails have origins outside the UK's sphere of influence, there's not really a lot that can be done except trust on the integrity of relevant authorities in, for example, Russia or Nigeria. Yeah, well. We can hope. >Still: it is worth reporting to them, which I do several times/week. >‡‡ and similar 'phone calls. You're probably right. It's axiomatic that there will be massive under reporting of such emails. I know I've never reported any. Not that I get many these days. Last one was over a year ago. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" I hope I live to relive the days gone by Old Before I Die - Robbie Williams pgp2vtfFo_3UV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Trojan
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 09:36:02 +0100 Alain D D Williams wrote: Hello Alain, >They will look at it and do something - or so they claim, Most likely that 'something' will be to compile statistics about phishing attacks. Maybe produce a leaflet, or update the advice given on a web page somewhere. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Gary don't need his eyes to see, Gary and his eyes have parted company Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts pgpcvfKv586AK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: btrfs check Causes File Corruption
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 18:28:56 +0800 "Longhao.Chen" wrote: Hello Longhao.Chen, >Hello everyone, Please be patient. Waiting less that an hour before reposting a question gains you little. This is a users mailing list, not a paid for support forum. Anyone here is volunteering their time. Users with experience of btrfs are a subset of all users here. Of those users, the ones that have confidence in their expertise to assist you will be an even smaller subset. Many of those may not have yet seen your request, never mind had time to formulate a response. Thank you. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Paradise City - Guns 'N' Roses pgpOCY6VgOGhx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:14:16 +0800 hlyg wrote: Hello hlyg, >it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release Little could be further from the truth. By the time an X.0 release is issued, much work has already been done; *including* beta releases. That's not to say X.0 releases are never flawed. There can sometimes be issues. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It couldn't adapt so it couldn't survive The Great British Mistake - The Adverts pgp0dEfL3G9A5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:58:25 +0200 Thierry Leurent wrote: Hello Thierry, >Thanks for the information YW, Thierry. Unless one reads the Claws mailing list, it's not easy to have known what was going on. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" It's cool to know nothin' Never Miss A Beat - Kaiser Chiefs pgpDnTfuW6C6W.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 00:10:20 +0200 Thierry Leurent wrote: Hello Thierry, >- Claws mail not render correctly html mails. It doesn't render them at all, unless you have a suitable plugin installed(1). And yes, for a while, HTML rendering was not great. This was due to removal (in many distros) of a package required by the Fancy plugin (I forget which) that had security issues. (1) This is, IMO, a Good Thing. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You're only laughing 'cause you haven't heard the news Sleeep - Wah! pgpI1iRZmupPg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: UNUBSCRIBE
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:40:54 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >Possibly. Although in the past, having sent a similar email, I have >actually gotten acknowledgments from the offender. It does happen, yes. IME, though, it is rare. >I responded as I did in order to teach not only the OP but anyone else >reading the traffic a useful general lesson; one that may apply to >multiple list servers. Indeed. I never meant to disparage yourself or others with similar intentions. However, with no further activity, thus far, from OP the likelihood of seeing one is diminishing. Of course, that may mean they're successfully unsubbed already. >> Best course of action is to quietly unsubscribe user ASAP. Of course, >> that requires somebody with suitable list management access rights. >If you want to do so, and have suitable access, feel free to do so. I wish I did. And I would have done so. It may have happened already anyway. Although under such circumstances, I'd have liked to have seen a notification to that effect. It would put an end to the topic. Which, to my shame, I'm not helping to do. >To paraphrase an ancient aphorism, unsubscribe a man once, and you have >unsubscribed him. Teach a man how to unsubscribe, and you have >unsubscribed him many times. A method I approve of, and use myself in most circumstances. That said, I've seen the same imperfect unsub practice by various ppl in multiple places. Some people, it seems, are unwilling to learn. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgpiE3GogAcHs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: UNUBSCRIBE
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 22:12:30 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: Hello Charles, >You would probably do better to send that to a special email address Since the OP wants out, I'd have thought it /extremely/ unlikely they'll read any on-list replies. The usual behaviour seems to be; 1. send (misspelled) an unsubscribe message to list. 2. keep receiving messages due to people (understandably) trying to help out OP. 3. block messages from list and report list address as spam to as many places as possible. Best course of action is to quietly unsubscribe user ASAP. Of course, that requires somebody with suitable list management access rights. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash pgpDvykdFhsbD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Package policy?
On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:45 +0200 Hans wrote: Hello Hans, >I can only guess, the package maintainers removed it, because it did >not work somewhow, but why then put it back again? They didn't put it back. It was never removed from Sid (things rarely are)[1]. It was removed from Testing in Oct 2022 due to having dependency issues (they can't be satisfied). Because of that removal, the package isn't in the current Debian release - Bookworm. See; https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/roger-router Which has a pointer to the bug report; https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1019303 The final line of the reply reads (in part) "This is going to be ... fun" by which I assume they mean "A lot of work". [1] It's Sid - EXPECT breakage at some point. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" Is she really going out with him? New Rose - The Damned pgpqjSjdgo9qB.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Partial Freeze Bullseye Mate
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:56:02 -0700 Peter Ehlert wrote: Hello Peter, > to fiddle, it seems I am getting bad connections in some >ports, but not consistent It wouldn't surprise me; USB has to be one of the worst connection types ever devised from a mechanical point of view. The situation is not helped by the plethora of cheap poor quality cables and connectors that abound. Even worse, spending extra money on 'high quality' parts offers no guarantee of success because the 'phone, mobo, hub, whatever, you plug cables into are also likely to be using crap parts. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a working delete key?" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd pgp3qdAItvP8K.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature