Re: Problem Installing Debian

2020-06-06 Thread Admin4
Hello

not an expert border less ness

could you ask someone to install latest Debian + Mate Desktop + orca?

or alternative: have someone prepare a linux boot stick with Debian 10
live iso mate image

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-10.4.0-amd64-mate.iso

(should run out of the box without setup on most systems but bios
settings might need to be modified in order to boot it, try f12 during boot)

imho orca is a gui application can only be used after a desktop was
installed

do you have a desktop gui installed?

mate is pretty simple and orca comes pre installed

when mate is running open a terminal (as non root user)

orca -s

will open up orca setup dialog with all kinds of settings

restart firefox

and it will start reading webpages

On 6/6/20 10:48 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> john doe, le sam. 06 juin 2020 08:24:32 +0200, a ecrit:
>> On 6/5/2020 11:56 PM, Analis Dannen wrote:
>>> Orca will not respond when I try to navigate the installer.  It
>>> simply says the name of the program and that is about it.
> AIUI, you are trying to install Debian from the live CD.  Accessibility
> is not supported in that case yet.  Please use an installation CD, not a
> live CD, and type 's' when the boot menu beeps, to get into a
> speech-enabled installation process.
>
> Samuel
>
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Re: Problem Installing Debian

2020-06-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

john doe, le sam. 06 juin 2020 08:24:32 +0200, a ecrit:
> On 6/5/2020 11:56 PM, Analis Dannen wrote:
> > Orca will not respond when I try to navigate the installer.  It
> > simply says the name of the program and that is about it.

AIUI, you are trying to install Debian from the live CD.  Accessibility
is not supported in that case yet.  Please use an installation CD, not a
live CD, and type 's' when the boot menu beeps, to get into a
speech-enabled installation process.

Samuel



Re: Problem Installing Debian

2020-06-05 Thread john doe

On 6/5/2020 11:56 PM, Analis Dannen wrote:

Greetings
This is Analis Dannen. I really want to replace my crappy windows
operating system with Debian. As a blind user, I rely on ORCA Screen
Reader to get around in Debian. Well, I have an issue. Orca will not
respond when I try to navigate the installer. It simply says the name
of the program and that is about it. Here is what I have tried.
Enabling the root account through the terminal
After root is enabled, logging out of the live session then logging back in
Logging into the root account only to find that ORCA does not seem to be there
I desperately need your help. Please respond to this Email as soon as
possible. Thank you very much!



It is unclear to me what issue(s) you are having:
- How did you install Debian?
- What release of Debian did you install?

CCing Debian accessibility.

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Problem Installing Debian

2020-06-05 Thread Analis Dannen
Greetings
This is Analis Dannen. I really want to replace my crappy windows
operating system with Debian. As a blind user, I rely on ORCA Screen
Reader to get around in Debian. Well, I have an issue. Orca will not
respond when I try to navigate the installer. It simply says the name
of the program and that is about it. Here is what I have tried.
Enabling the root account through the terminal
After root is enabled, logging out of the live session then logging back in
Logging into the root account only to find that ORCA does not seem to be there
I desperately need your help. Please respond to this Email as soon as
possible. Thank you very much!



Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-07 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 4/7/2014 12:17 AM, Mr Queue wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:20:19 -0400
Jerry Stuckle  wrote:


Which does not solve the problem YOU are causing.

And once again you refuse to copy the relevant information when
replying.

Jerry


Sorry Jerry. We do our best to incorporate all levels of users here. On
that note, this should get you going:

http://bit.ly/1fUoROI



I don't need your silly links to know how to use mail lists.  I started 
with email around 40 years ago, when it was Arpanet.  I also have been 
using Linux for a number of years.


But one thing hasn't changed in all that time.  People who refuse to 
follow netiquette, especially in respect to copying relevant information 
in their replies, are either stubborn or stoopid.  Which are you?


Obviously you must be the latter, since you aren't addressing the 
problem YOU are causing.


Jerry


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RE: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-07 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
Here is my original message:

I have installed Debian Testing/Jessie on my 64 bit Laptop in VMware Player
v- 6.0.1-1379776.  vmhgfs failed the build process.  The relevant portion of
the build log is (complete log is attached):

Using 2.6.x kernel buildInstalling VMware Tools.
make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only'
/usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.13-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD
SRCROOT=$PWD/. \
 MODULEBUILDDIR= modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64'
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dir.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function 'HgfsOpen':
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type
for argument 3 of 'HgfsSetUidGid'
   current_fsuid(), current_fsgid());
   ^
In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0:
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'uid_t' but
argument is of type 'kuid_t'
void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent,
  ^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type
for argument 4 of 'HgfsSetUidGid'
   current_fsuid(), current_fsgid());
   ^
In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0:
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'gid_t' but
argument is of type 'kgid_t'
void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent,
  ^
make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1
make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function
'HgfsInitSuperInfo':
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'uid_t' from type 'kuid_t'
   si->uid = current_uid();
   ^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'gid_t' from type 'kgid_t'
   si->gid = current_gid();
   ^
make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function
'HgfsChangeFileAttributes':
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:680:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t'
   inode->i_uid = si->uid;
^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:682:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uint32'
   inode->i_uid = attr->userId;
^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:685:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t'
   inode->i_gid = si->gid;
^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:687:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'uint32'
   inode->i_gid = attr->groupId;
^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsSetUidGid':
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1663:21: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t'
setUidGid.ia_uid = uid;
 ^
/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1671:24: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t'
   setUidGid.ia_gid = gid;
^
make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only] Error 2
make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64'
make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only'

I have no idea as to what te problem might be.  Any assistance will be much
appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy
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-Original Message-
From: Jerry Stuckle [mailto:jstuc...@attglobal.net] 

Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Mr Queue
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:20:19 -0400
Jerry Stuckle  wrote:

> Which does not solve the problem YOU are causing.
> 
> And once again you refuse to copy the relevant information when
> replying.
> 
> Jerry

Sorry Jerry. We do our best to incorporate all levels of users here. On
that note, this should get you going:

http://bit.ly/1fUoROI

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Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 4/6/2014 9:52 PM, Mr Queue wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:56:45 -0400
Jerry Stuckle  wrote:


Seems to be a kernel problem.

http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0






Seems to be a kernel problem.

http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0




 hyperlink



Which does not solve the problem YOU are causing.

And once again you refuse to copy the relevant information when replying.

Jerry


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Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Mr Queue
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:56:45 -0400
Jerry Stuckle  wrote:

> > Seems to be a kernel problem.
> >
> > http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0
> >
> >  


> Seems to be a kernel problem.
>
> http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0
>


 hyperlink

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Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 4/6/2014 4:03 PM, Mr Queue wrote:

On Sun, 6 Apr 2014 15:11:57 -0400
"Stephen P. Molnar"  wrote:


Any assistance will be much appreciated.


Seems to be a kernel problem.

http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0




What is a kernel problem?

Please copy ALL of the applicable information when replying.  Many of us 
don't have previous messages available.


Jerry


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Re: Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Mr Queue
On Sun, 6 Apr 2014 15:11:57 -0400
"Stephen P. Molnar"  wrote:

> Any assistance will be much appreciated.

Seems to be a kernel problem.

http://bit.ly/1hvDrs0


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Problem Installing Debian Testng/Jessie VMware Tools

2014-04-06 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have installed Debian Testing/Jessie on my 64 bit Laptop in VMware Player
v- 6.0.1-1379776.  vmhgfs failed the build process.  The relevant portion of
the build log is (complete log is attached):

 

Using 2.6.x kernel buildInstalling VMware Tools.

make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only'

/usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.13-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD
SRCROOT=$PWD/. \

 MODULEBUILDDIR= modules

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64'

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dir.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function 'HgfsOpen':

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type
for argument 3 of 'HgfsSetUidGid'

   current_fsuid(), current_fsgid());

   ^

In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0:

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'uid_t' but
argument is of type 'kuid_t'

void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent,

  ^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:685:27: error: incompatible type
for argument 4 of 'HgfsSetUidGid'

   current_fsuid(), current_fsgid());

   ^

In file included from /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0:

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected 'gid_t' but
argument is of type 'kgid_t'

void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent,

  ^

make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1

make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs

  CC [M]  /tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function
'HgfsInitSuperInfo':

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'uid_t' from type 'kuid_t'

   si->uid = current_uid();

   ^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'gid_t' from type 'kgid_t'

   si->gid = current_gid();

   ^

make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function
'HgfsChangeFileAttributes':

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:680:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t'

   inode->i_uid = si->uid;

^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:682:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uint32'

   inode->i_uid = attr->userId;

^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:685:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t'

   inode->i_gid = si->gid;

^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:687:20: error: incompatible types
when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'uint32'

   inode->i_gid = attr->groupId;

^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c: In function 'HgfsSetUidGid':

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1663:21: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'kuid_t' from type 'uid_t'

setUidGid.ia_uid = uid;

 ^

/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.c:1671:24: error: incompatible
types when assigning to type 'kgid_t' from type 'gid_t'

   setUidGid.ia_gid = gid;

^

make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.o] Error 1

make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only] Error 2

make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2

make[1]: *** [all] Error 2

make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13-1-amd64'

make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2

make: Leaving directory `/tmp/modconfig-YbqXQN/vmhgfs-only'

 

I have no idea as to what te problem might be.  Any assistance will be much
appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Installing VMware Tools.

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Re: Problem installing Debian

2011-07-05 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-07-04 a las 16:24 -0400, Robert Mansell escribió:

(resending to the list)

> To Camaleón,
> And then what happens? I insert the disk and the disk is spinning
> in the drive but the drive isn't reading the disk. 

Yes, it can be:

- Bad written ISO image
- Bad downloaded ISO image
- A mix of the two :-)
- Bad CD media
- Incompatible CD media (some optical readers have problems with special 
media like +RW or -RW)
- ...

I would first start by inserting the CD into another machine to discard 
a problem with the CD itself.

> Is it possible the install disk is in some way defective?

That depends of the level of "defectivity" :-)

If the disc surface is somehow damaged (scratched) maybe you can 
restore and retry. Some CD readers tolerate better this kind of errors 
than others.

If the ISO image has been written not as ISO but as normal data disc, 
no dice, you will have to rewrite the image again.

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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 08 dec 10, 07:58:50, Harry wrote:
> I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which
> is what the ubuntu partioner sees.

I don't understand this...

> First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or
> Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and
> only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can
> be split as you want.

This shouldn't be a problem unless you have a very old (10 years?) BIOS.

> Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be 
> mounted.

No, they don't. AFAIK the installer should not mount partitions unless 
you want to copy data to/from them (this is possible with the Debian 
Installer, but not sure if it supports NTFS) or you install to them 
(obviously).

> Debian 5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically 
> so you cant see them.

Again, with the proper tools (like cfdisk above, which is of course also 
available in Debian) you can "see" not mounted partitions.

What are you trying to say?

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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-10 Thread H Scott
I am sure you're right. But if you try to boot different partitions from the
MBR with Lilo it often fails when the first partion is >8GB. I don't know
Grub so well but it is possible to mount this elsewhere than on the MBR
which avoids the problem and Grub2 is even more advantageous.
- Original Message - 
From: "Freddie Exall" 
To: "Harry" 
Cc: ; 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP


> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Harry wrote:
>
> > I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk
which
> > is what the ubuntu partioner sees.
> > First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or
> > Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary
and
> > only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest
can
> > be split as you want.
> > Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted.
Debian
> > 5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you
cant
> > see them.
> > I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work
with
> > only one 8GB partition.
> > Hope it helps you.
>
> I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or
> grub with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR.
> Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long
> as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year
> anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Freddie
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bernard" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM
> > Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
> >
> >
> >> Hi to Everyone,
> >>
> >> I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already
running.
> >> I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to
> >> create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem
> >> is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD,
> >> the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees
> >> /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using
> >> "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their
> >> size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them.
> >> Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the
space
> >> without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable
space
> >> for that purpose.
> >>
> >> I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did
not
> >> create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility,
> >> but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all
> >> data in all partitions..
> >>
> >> So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using
> >> Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then
> >> install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition
> >> table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or,
maybe,
> >> the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next)
> >>
> >> Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those
> >> who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain :
> >>
> >> Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ?   Will the
> >> restored partition boot ?   How about the MBR ?   Shall I have to
modify
> >> GRUB so that both systems work ?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your help
> >>
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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-10 Thread H Scott
You can avoid the 8GB trap if you use GRUB as you have done. But i think it's 
because Grub can be placed elsewhere than on the MBR. It's a chronic problem 
with LILO cos there's no other place for it. The normal work-around is to use 
an 8GB primary partion C with another larger one D made later when setting up 
the linux system.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP


  On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall  
wrote:


I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub 
with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's 
always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed 
it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe 
something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky.


  [snip]

  Same here.  I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems 
with grub or dual-booting.  Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and 
someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to the 
Ubuntu Live CD before installing.

  Mark


Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-09 Thread Mark
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall wrote:

>
> I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub
> with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR.
> Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as
> I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;)
> now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky.
>

[snip]

Same here.  I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems
with grub or dual-booting.  Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and
someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to
the Ubuntu Live CD before installing.

Mark


Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-09 Thread Mark
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall wrote:

>
> I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub
> with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR.
> Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as
> I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;)
> now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky.
>

[snip]

Same here.  I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems
with grub or dual-booting.  Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and
someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to
the Ubuntu Live CD before installing.

Mark


Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-09 Thread Freddie Exall

On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Harry wrote:


I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which
is what the ubuntu partioner sees.
First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or
Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and
only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can
be split as you want.
Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted. Debian
5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you cant
see them.
I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work with
only one 8GB partition.
Hope it helps you.


I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or 
grub with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. 
Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long 
as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year 
anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky.


Greetings,

Freddie


- Original Message -
From: "Bernard" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP



Hi to Everyone,

I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running.
I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to
create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem
is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD,
the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees
/dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using
"SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their
size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them.
Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space
without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space
for that purpose.

I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not
create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility,
but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all
data in all partitions..

So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using
Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then
install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition
table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe,
the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next)

Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those
who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain :

Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ?   Will the
restored partition boot ?   How about the MBR ?   Shall I have to modify
GRUB so that both systems work ?

Thanks in advance for your help


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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Harry
I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which
is what the ubuntu partioner sees.
First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or
Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and
only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can
be split as you want.
Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted. Debian
5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you cant
see them.
I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work with
only one 8GB partition.
Hope it helps you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernard" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP


> Hi to Everyone,
>
> I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running.
> I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to
> create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem
> is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD,
> the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees
> /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using
> "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their
> size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them.
> Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space
> without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space
> for that purpose.
>
> I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not
> create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility,
> but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all
> data in all partitions..
>
> So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using
> Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then
> install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition
> table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe,
> the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next)
>
> Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those
> who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain :
>
> Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ?   Will the
> restored partition boot ?   How about the MBR ?   Shall I have to modify
> GRUB so that both systems work ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
>
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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 08. 12. 2010 02:06:45 je Bernard napisal(a):


A bug in Ubuntu installer? :-?



Yes, it most likely was !

After many tests and re-tests, I decided to try the Debian Lenny iso  
install CD that I had used in my own home desktop computer. It did  
work perfectly !


So: shame on Ubuntu and cheers to Debian :=)


Well, you have to consider the fact that Lenny is quite old. Given that  
Ubuntu is (little more than) a souped-up Debian, I'm afraid that those  
same problems -- if they're not an Ubuntu-specific "enhancement" -- may  
crop up soon enough in Debian. I hope that's not the case, of course ;)


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Re: [OT] Dubuntian- WAS: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Simon Hollenbach
> So: shame on Ubuntu and cheers to Debian :=)
> 

> 
> My fellow members in my association have asked for Ubuntu install on 
> dual boot on one of our computers. Since they know next to nothing about 
> Linux, I am going to tell them that Debian is just about the same as 
> Ubuntu (which is not completely untrue anyway), and that, in any case, 

Id say u r doing the right thing, but i find this a rather unfortunate move 
towards the masses who happen to know ubuntu. Fork it in some kind of myth, 
including an unwanted child, maybe adapt Prometheus struggle with Zeus, but let 
him stay chained to this mountain. Hey, that strange bird is from Redmond.
What I'm trying to say, dont make debian appear like some mental retard's 
lunatic brother, its the caring one who has got to look after the 
not-a-bit-better other sibblings.

greetings
Simon

P.S. I dont want to set up anyone in love with that charming os. hey, I like 
the purple. Im just trying to explain my concern in marketing-talk...


> Debian did the job, which Ubuntu did not !


Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Bernard

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:05:32 +, Lisi wrote:

  

On Tuesday 07 December 2010 15:00:20 Camaleón wrote:



  

I don't know how Ubuntu's installer looks like, but if you have
unallocated space in the disk it should be detected.

"/dev/sda" is the whole disk (not a Windows partition), while "/dev/
sda1", "/dev/sda2", "/dev/sda3" and so on... name the partitions in the
disk. Maybe you have to manually select the partitions or tell the
installer to look in another place (under some kind of "advanced
settings"?).
  

I have installed XP and Debian without a problem.  But the other day I
needed to do exactly this, install Ubuntu 10.10 on a dual boot with
Windows.  It refused to see the empty space, although I tried every
method I could think of.  Because the 10.10 installation was urgent, I
wiped the XP off the disk and let 10.10 start from scratch.  Annoying,
as XP had taken me a day on and off to install, was a right pain, and I
had hoped to leave it alone.  I also had 10.10 refuse to quadrupal  boot
on another machine with Debian and 2 other versions of Ubuntu.

I keep hoping that Ubuntu and I will make peace.  Then something like
this happens and I flee back as soon as I can to Debian.

But 10.10 is great for getting a desktop rapidly to the point of using
multimedia to the satisfaction of my granddaughter.  For everything else
I find it a pain. :-(



A bug in Ubuntu installer? :-?
  


Yes, it most likely was !

After many tests and re-tests, I decided to try the Debian Lenny iso 
install CD that I had used in my own home desktop computer. It did work 
perfectly !


So: shame on Ubuntu and cheers to Debian :=)

True enough: chances are that someone will point out reverse situations =(

My fellow members in my association have asked for Ubuntu install on 
dual boot on one of our computers. Since they know next to nothing about 
Linux, I am going to tell them that Debian is just about the same as 
Ubuntu (which is not completely untrue anyway), and that, in any case, 
Debian did the job, which Ubuntu did not !


Thanks to Everyone for your help


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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:05:32 +, Lisi wrote:

> On Tuesday 07 December 2010 15:00:20 Camaleón wrote:

>> I don't know how Ubuntu's installer looks like, but if you have
>> unallocated space in the disk it should be detected.
>>
>> "/dev/sda" is the whole disk (not a Windows partition), while "/dev/
>> sda1", "/dev/sda2", "/dev/sda3" and so on... name the partitions in the
>> disk. Maybe you have to manually select the partitions or tell the
>> installer to look in another place (under some kind of "advanced
>> settings"?).
> 
> I have installed XP and Debian without a problem.  But the other day I
> needed to do exactly this, install Ubuntu 10.10 on a dual boot with
> Windows.  It refused to see the empty space, although I tried every
> method I could think of.  Because the 10.10 installation was urgent, I
> wiped the XP off the disk and let 10.10 start from scratch.  Annoying,
> as XP had taken me a day on and off to install, was a right pain, and I
> had hoped to leave it alone.  I also had 10.10 refuse to quadrupal  boot
> on another machine with Debian and 2 other versions of Ubuntu.
> 
> I keep hoping that Ubuntu and I will make peace.  Then something like
> this happens and I flee back as soon as I can to Debian.
> 
> But 10.10 is great for getting a desktop rapidly to the point of using
> multimedia to the satisfaction of my granddaughter.  For everything else
> I find it a pain. :-(

A bug in Ubuntu installer? :-?

Let me see if can find any install guide for it... yes, here:

https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#di-partition

Under "Partitioning and Mount Point Selection" section, it says the user 
can choose an "automatic/guided" or "manual" partitioning:

"(...) First you will be given the opportunity to automatically partition 
either an entire drive, or available free space on a drive. This is also 
called “guided” partitioning. If you do not want to autopartition, choose 
Manual from the menu."

I never select an "automatic" setup as it does not always sets the 
options I need. So if the automatic wizard fails to detect the available 
partitions, better proceed with "Manual". Manual partitioning has to detect 
the available drives and partitions, if not, the Ubuntu installer has a big 
problem (I understand it can have any issue for detecting fake raid 
controllers or some special LVM setup, but plain sata/ide hard disks and 
their partitions have to be detected) :-)

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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 07 December 2010 15:00:20 Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:46:54 +0100, Bernard wrote:
> > I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running.
> > I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to
> > create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem
> > is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD,
> > the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees
> > /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using
> > "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their
> > size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them.
> > Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space
> > without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space
> > for that purpose.
>
> (...)
>
> Stop here.
>
> I don't know how Ubuntu's installer looks like, but if you have
> unallocated space in the disk it should be detected.
>
> "/dev/sda" is the whole disk (not a Windows partition), while "/dev/
> sda1", "/dev/sda2", "/dev/sda3" and so on... name the partitions in the
> disk. Maybe you have to manually select the partitions or tell the
> installer to look in another place (under some kind of "advanced
> settings"?).

I have installed XP and Debian without a problem.  But the other day I needed 
to do exactly this, install Ubuntu 10.10 on a dual boot with Windows.  It 
refused to see the empty space, although I tried every method I could think 
of.  Because the 10.10 installation was urgent, I wiped the XP off the disk 
and let 10.10 start from scratch.  Annoying, as XP had taken me a day on and 
off to install, was a right pain, and I had hoped to leave it alone.  I also 
had 10.10 refuse to quadrupal  boot on another machine with Debian and 2 
other versions of Ubuntu.

I keep hoping that Ubuntu and I will make peace.  Then something like this 
happens and I flee back as soon as I can to Debian.

But 10.10 is great for getting a desktop rapidly to the point of using 
multimedia to the satisfaction of my granddaughter.  For everything else I 
find it a pain. :-(

Lisi


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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:46:54 +0100, Bernard wrote:

> I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running.
> I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to
> create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem
> is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD,
> the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees
> /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using
> "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their
> size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them.
> Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space
> without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space
> for that purpose.

(...)

Stop here.

I don't know how Ubuntu's installer looks like, but if you have 
unallocated space in the disk it should be detected.

"/dev/sda" is the whole disk (not a Windows partition), while "/dev/
sda1", "/dev/sda2", "/dev/sda3" and so on... name the partitions in the 
disk. Maybe you have to manually select the partitions or tell the 
installer to look in another place (under some kind of "advanced 
settings"?).

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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Bernard

Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 07. 12. 2010 12:46:54 je Bernard napisal(a):

Hi to Everyone,

I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already 
running. I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows 
partition so as to create free space for Linux install. I did that, 
using GParted.


Your absolutely *necessary* next step is to boot into Windows and do a 
scandisk. Windows has to recheck its own bits and pieces after being 
resized, or else...


I have done that. The scandisk started automatically at the first reboot 
following resizing. But that did not solve the problem : the Ubuntu 
10.10 iso install CD did not reckognize any workable space to do its job.


Problem is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with 
an iso CD, the install system does not see any useful partition. It 
only sees /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. 
Using "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and 
display their size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not 
see them. Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just 
leave the space without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see 
any suitable space for that purpose.


I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did 
not create a partition table.


No. If you have a working Windows installation, you definitely do have 
a partition table.


The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, but then it warns you 
that creating a partition table will erase all data in all partitions..


And that is exactly what will happen. So you don't want to do that. 
Creating a partition table erases *everything* that was previously on 
your disk.


So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using 
Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then 
install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new 
partition table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved 
partition... (or, maybe, the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN 
and install Ubuntu next)


IIRC Windows XP wouldn't work anymore, after such a process. What you 
want to do is leave the Windows partition(s) untouched. Install 
GNU/Linux on the freed space, and preferably have Grub install in the 
GNU/Linux partition, NOT on the MBR. That way, you minimize the risk 
of Windows having a fit.


Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from 
those who have already tested, since a number of questions still 
remain :


Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ? Will the 
restored partition boot ? How about the MBR ? Shall I have to modify 
GRUB so that both systems work ?


Does the GParted CD see your new partition? 

Yes, it does
If so, feel free to format it to a GNU/Linux filesystem (I'd 
reccommend ext3).
I have tested just about every possibility : no format, format to ext2, 
format to ext3, format to ntfs... with similar results


Then, Ubuntu installer should recognize it. 
It does not. I then tested another Ubuntu iso install CD with an older 
version: result was the same, despites the fact that said CD had been 
successfully used by someone else.


Next I am going to go test a Debian Lenny install CD. This concern a 
computer at my clubhouse, not my own (here I have Lenny + WinXP on my 
Desktop and Ubuntu 8.04 alone on my laptop)



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Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 07. 12. 2010 12:46:54 je Bernard napisal(a):

Hi to Everyone,

I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already  
running. I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows  
partition so as to create free space for Linux install. I did that,  
using GParted.


Your absolutely *necessary* next step is to boot into Windows and do a  
scandisk. Windows has to recheck its own bits and pieces after being  
resized, or else...


Problem is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with  
an iso CD, the install system does not see any useful partition. It  
only sees /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.  
Using "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and  
display their size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not  
see them. Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just  
leave the space without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see  
any suitable space for that purpose.


I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did  
not create a partition table.


No. If you have a working Windows installation, you definitely do have  
a partition table.


The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, but then it warns you  
that creating a partition table will erase all data in all  
partitions..


And that is exactly what will happen. So you don't want to do that.  
Creating a partition table erases *everything* that was previously on  
your disk.


So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using  
Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then  
install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new  
partition table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved  
partition... (or, maybe, the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN  
and install Ubuntu next)


IIRC Windows XP wouldn't work anymore, after such a process. What you  
want to do is leave the Windows partition(s) untouched. Install  
GNU/Linux on the freed space, and preferably have Grub install in the  
GNU/Linux partition, NOT on the MBR. That way, you minimize the risk of  
Windows having a fit.


Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from  
those who have already tested, since a number of questions still  
remain :


Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ?   Will the  
restored partition boot ?   How about the MBR ?   Shall I have to  
modify GRUB so that both systems work ?


Does the GParted CD see your new partition? If so, feel free to format  
it to a GNU/Linux filesystem (I'd reccommend ext3). Then, Ubuntu  
installer should recognize it. If I were you, I wouldn't let Grub  
modify the MBR, I'd instruct it to install itself in the GNU/Linux  
partition. Optimally, it will detect your Windows installation and put  
it up in its menu. Now all you have to do is redirect your system to  
boot from the GNU/Linux partition (where Grub resides) instead of the  
MBR. Or, alternatively, make the Windows bootloader give you the choice  
of booting either XP or GNU/Linux (there are tutorials on the Net on  
how to modify Windows XP boot loader to do that).


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problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP

2010-12-07 Thread Bernard

Hi to Everyone,

I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running. 
I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to 
create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem 
is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD, 
the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees 
/dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using 
"SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their 
size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them. 
Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space 
without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space 
for that purpose.


I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not 
create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, 
but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all 
data in all partitions..


So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using 
Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then 
install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition 
table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe, 
the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next)


Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those 
who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain :


Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ?   Will the 
restored partition boot ?   How about the MBR ?   Shall I have to modify 
GRUB so that both systems work ?


Thanks in advance for your help


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Re: problem installing debian on wipro 7B1630

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 09:39:44PM +0530, raman narasimhan wrote:
> i tried to install debian from binary 1 dvd. i set the dvd as the primary boot

What version is the DVD, i.e. How old is it?

> device. the installation started as usual. i was not able to install normally
> so i selected gui mode. the installation proceeded till DISK DETECTION.. the
> installer could'nt detect any disks.. i was then asked to enter the name of 
> the
> disk driver.. i knew my disk was SATA so i tried all available SATA options 
> but
> still it was of no use.. how do i create a partition when the installer 
> doesn't
> detect any drives..

You can't. I'd boot from a Knoppix CD and try an 'fdisk -l' command and
see if that works. You could try installing from another distribution
and if it successfully detects the drive then file a bug against the
installer. This is providing that the installer is the latest version of
course, hence the first question above.

I'm assuming you tried the various boot methods and read the help
screens accessed via , etc.

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Re: problem installing debian on wipro 7B1630

2008-09-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

raman narasimhan wrote:
i tried to install debian from binary 1 dvd. i set the dvd as the 
primary boot device. the installation started as usual. i was not able 
to install normally so i selected gui mode. the installation proceeded 
till DISK DETECTION.. the installer could'nt detect any disks.. i was 
then asked to enter the name of the disk driver.. i knew my disk was 
SATA so i tried all available SATA options but still it was of no use.. 
how do i create a partition when the installer doesn't detect any drives..
 
i checked in windows and found WDC WD1600BEVS-22USTO.

what am i supposed to do?? please help me out..


Curious:
http://www.wipro.co.in/products/notebooks/html/N_WL7B1630.html
says that Linux is a supported O/S. Did you find any refs to Linux at all?

Hugo


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problem installing debian on wipro 7B1630

2008-09-20 Thread raman narasimhan
i tried to install debian from binary 1 dvd. i set the dvd as the primary
boot device. the installation started as usual. i was not able to install
normally so i selected gui mode. the installation proceeded till DISK
DETECTION.. the installer could'nt detect any disks.. i was then asked to
enter the name of the disk driver.. i knew my disk was SATA so i tried all
available SATA options but still it was of no use.. how do i create a
partition when the installer doesn't detect any drives..

i checked in windows and found WDC WD1600BEVS-22USTO.
what am i supposed to do?? please help me out..


problem installing debian-40r3-i386-netinst.iso

2008-07-08 Thread Vwaju
I installed Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r3 "Etch" – Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20080218-14:15 on my old Dell Dimension 4100, and it went off
without a hitch.

Using the same disk, I tried to install it on my old Gateway Solo 1100
laptop (which has a Celeron processor,  64MB of RAM and a 5GB HD).

It seemed to be going fine (in "low memory mode") but during "Load
Installer Components from CD" the installation stalled trying to
retrieve zliblg-udeb. I was not able to get passed this point.

There's nothing wrong with the disk, since it was fine for the first
installation. Is 64 MB just not enough memory?

I would be grateful for any thoughts any of you might have about this.

Thanks & Best Regards,

Vwaju
New York City


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Re: Problem installing Debian/Etch on Virtual PC

2008-03-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello,

On Sun, March 9, 2008 10:30, Franklin PIAT wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 21:31 -0800, VN Barr wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:27:57 -0800 (PST)
>> From: VN Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Problem with installation - Need for a class
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> I was told to install Debian on MS Virtual PC for a class. I
>> think I'm getting kernel hang
>> The last line is "Freeing unused kernel memory 256k freed"
>> This is the download I used "debian-40r3-i386-netinst"

I've tested the installation of Debian Etch on VPC 2007.

I couldn't not reproduce your bugs. Here an installation guide :
http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/VMs/MicrosoftVirtualPc2007/etch

I've also submitted an Installation report :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=470167

Franklin

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Re: Problem installing Debian/Etch on Virtual PC

2008-03-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello,

On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 21:31 -0800, VN Barr wrote:
> I am not getting as far as the package. I stated clearly the problem
> was with installation.
If you want some help, you should try sending your email to the
debian-user@lists.debian.org mailing list (it's archive is browsable at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ )

I have CC'ed that mailing list. Please remove the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients when you
reply.

Make sure you say which version of Virtual PC you use in your mail (VPC
2007 ; English ; 32 bits ??).

I don't have VPC, but I have two hints :
- The error "Freeing unused kernel memory" in VPC seems to occur when
you allocate more that 512Mb of RAM. (!)
- You might want to try alternate Virtualisation tool, like
http://virtualbox.org , http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu or
http://www.vmware.com/ which are known to work properly.

>  Don't  tell anybody else you consider them junk .
The emails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are processed automatically. They
really have to be "with a special format", as explained at
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

So don't be offended because it says your email was discarded, just
re-submit your bug-report with a valid header.

You can use this report as a template to re-submit your bug.
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=469821

Bug reports are very useful so Debian Developers are aware of problem,
and they can fix it.

> I'll be more than happy to send this every email listed on your site
> until I am helped.
No comments.

I hope you'll find a solution.

Franklin Piat


> From the READ ME:
> Using Apt
> =
>After installing or upgrading, Debian's packaging system can use
> CDs,
>DVDs, local collections, or networked servers (FTP, HTTP) to
>automatically install software from (.deb packages). This is done
>preferably with the `apt' and `aptitude' programs.
>  
> I have not gotten the system fully installed to use the package
> function. I'll be more than happy to send this every email listed on
> your site until I am helped. I've asked nicely. 
> Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the
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> pseudo-header at all. Your message has been filed under junk
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> your
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: VN Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Problem with installation - Need for a class
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I was told to install Debian on MS Virtual PC for a class. I
> think I'm getting kernel hang
> The last line is "Freeing unused kernel memory 256k freed"
> This is the download I used "debian-40r3-i386-netinst"
>  
> Please help me, I need to get this up and running with more
> software installed by Monday.
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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 02:37:42PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 11:28:36AM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> > 
> > Do you have any idea if this is a bug, or just a problem I encountered
> > on my particular installation? (I got it working with your help by the
> > way.) Should I file a bug report?
> > 
> > Scott Huey
> > 
> > 
> 
> Nope, the same thing happened to me. And as far as I know the developers
> know about it, but hopefully they update the ISO images soon.
> 
> I'm not sure where you'd go to submit this bug, since the
> Debian-Installer isn't a package (The package debian-installer is just
> documentation, as far as I know).
> 
> If someone else would be kind enough to point us in the right direction
> to submit a bug report Scott and I could work together on it.

installation-reports. 

make sure its a good report though. i think they get a lot of crap
through there. you might check with joey hess and see if he thinks its
worth filing.


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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 11:28:36AM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> On 4/21/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Just a quick note, top-posting is generally frowned upon here (I purged
> >the rest of the topic from this message because it was becoming a
> >complicated mess, too much for me to fix).
> >
> >> Scott Huey wrote:
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> How do I restart the installation after I've made the changes you
> >> indicated?
> >>
> >> Scott Huey
> >
> >
> >The installer should continue once you do that, try doing it before you
> >actually install anything and then the installer should run normally,
> >without complaining about a debootstrap script missing.
> >
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> Michael,
> 
> Sorry about the top posting. I at times forget which mailing lists
> prefer it, and which discourage it.
> 
> Do you have any idea if this is a bug, or just a problem I encountered
> on my particular installation? (I got it working with your help by the
> way.) Should I file a bug report?
> 
> Scott Huey
> 
> 

Nope, the same thing happened to me. And as far as I know the developers
know about it, but hopefully they update the ISO images soon.

I'm not sure where you'd go to submit this bug, since the
Debian-Installer isn't a package (The package debian-installer is just
documentation, as far as I know).

If someone else would be kind enough to point us in the right direction
to submit a bug report Scott and I could work together on it.

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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Redefined Horizons

On 4/21/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just a quick note, top-posting is generally frowned upon here (I purged
the rest of the topic from this message because it was becoming a
complicated mess, too much for me to fix).

> Scott Huey wrote:
> Michael,
>
> How do I restart the installation after I've made the changes you
> indicated?
>
> Scott Huey


The installer should continue once you do that, try doing it before you
actually install anything and then the installer should run normally,
without complaining about a debootstrap script missing.

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Michael,

Sorry about the top posting. I at times forget which mailing lists
prefer it, and which discourage it.

Do you have any idea if this is a bug, or just a problem I encountered
on my particular installation? (I got it working with your help by the
way.) Should I file a bug report?

Scott Huey


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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Michael Pobega
Just a quick note, top-posting is generally frowned upon here (I purged
the rest of the topic from this message because it was becoming a
complicated mess, too much for me to fix).

> Scott Huey wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> How do I restart the installation after I've made the changes you
> indicated?
> 
> Scott Huey


The installer should continue once you do that, try doing it before you
actually install anything and then the installer should run normally,
without complaining about a debootstrap script missing.

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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 08:23:10AM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> On 4/21/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:08:57PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> > > I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on my computer using the CD. (I
> > > burned all 22 CDs, because I'm not hooked to the internet just
> > > yet.) I was running Debian Etch on the computer before.
> > >
> > > I get through the first portion of the installation, including the
> > > partitioning of the hard drive, when the installation crashes.
> > >
> > > The error message I get is:
> > >
> > > Base System Installation Error The debootstra program exited with
> > > an error (return value 1)
> > >
> > > Failed to install the base system The base system installatio into
> > > /target/ failed.
> > >
> > > Is there a way for me to fix this problem? Do I need to download
> > > the ISO for the first CD in the installation again? Should I file
> > > a bug report?
> > >
> > > Its odd that I can't install Debian on a computer that was just
> > > running Debian. :]
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for the help. I'd love to try out the updated
> > > Debian this weekend.
> > >
> > > Scott Huey
> > >
> >
> > Since Etch and Lenny are almost the same at this point in time, this
> > should work for you.
> >
> > Jump to a virtual terminal, and:
> >
> > cd /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts cp etch lenny
> >
> > And continue with the install. Note: This will install Etch by
> > default, with Lenny's sources.list, so when you boot into the newly
> > installed system you may be prompted with some upgrades, which is
> > completely normal.
> >
> > It worked fine for me, but I did it the day after the Lenny
> > installer was released.
> >
> 
> Thank you for that tip Michael.
> 
> How do I jump to a virtual terminal?  Should I file a bug report for
> the problem that I am having with the installer?
> 
> Scott Huey
> 
> 

The same way you would in a normal Debian environment, Ctrl+Alt+F2.
Alt+=> (Right arrow) should work as well (Ctrl+Alt+=> bring you to your
current TTY+1, and Ctrl+Alt+<= bring you to TTY-1), and the installer logs
are located at TTY4 (Ctrl+Alt+F4 to view the logs).

Ctrl+Alt+F1 is to get back to TTY1 (The Debian installer screen).

Good luck.

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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Redefined Horizons

Michael,

How do I restart the installation after I've made the changes you indicated?

Scott Huey


On 4/21/07, Redefined Horizons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thank you for that tip Michael.

How do I jump to a virtual terminal?
Should I file a bug report for the problem that I am having with the installer?

Scott Huey

On 4/21/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:08:57PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> > I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on my computer using the CD. (I
> > burned all 22 CDs, because I'm not hooked to the internet just yet.) I
> > was running Debian Etch on the computer before.
> >
> > I get through the first portion of the installation, including the
> > partitioning of the hard drive, when the installation crashes.
> >
> > The error message I get is:
> >
> > Base System Installation Error
> > The debootstra program exited with an error (return value 1)
> >
> > Failed to install the base system
> > The base system installatio into /target/ failed.
> >
> > Is there a way for me to fix this problem? Do I need to download the
> > ISO for the first CD in the installation again? Should I file a bug
> > report?
> >
> > Its odd that I can't install Debian on a computer that was just
> > running Debian. :]
> >
> > Thanks so much for the help. I'd love to try out the updated Debian
> > this weekend.
> >
> > Scott Huey
> >
> >
>
> Since Etch and Lenny are almost the same at this point in time, this
> should work for you.
>
> Jump to a virtual terminal, and:
>
> cd /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
> cp etch lenny
>
> And continue with the install. Note: This will install Etch by default,
> with Lenny's sources.list, so when you boot into the newly installed
> system you may be prompted with some upgrades, which is completely
> normal.
>
> It worked fine for me, but I did it the day after the Lenny installer
> was released.
>
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> programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
> restrict the use of these programs.
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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Redefined Horizons

Thank you for that tip Michael.

How do I jump to a virtual terminal?
Should I file a bug report for the problem that I am having with the installer?

Scott Huey

On 4/21/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:08:57PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on my computer using the CD. (I
> burned all 22 CDs, because I'm not hooked to the internet just yet.) I
> was running Debian Etch on the computer before.
>
> I get through the first portion of the installation, including the
> partitioning of the hard drive, when the installation crashes.
>
> The error message I get is:
>
> Base System Installation Error
> The debootstra program exited with an error (return value 1)
>
> Failed to install the base system
> The base system installatio into /target/ failed.
>
> Is there a way for me to fix this problem? Do I need to download the
> ISO for the first CD in the installation again? Should I file a bug
> report?
>
> Its odd that I can't install Debian on a computer that was just
> running Debian. :]
>
> Thanks so much for the help. I'd love to try out the updated Debian
> this weekend.
>
> Scott Huey
>
>

Since Etch and Lenny are almost the same at this point in time, this
should work for you.

Jump to a virtual terminal, and:

cd /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
cp etch lenny

And continue with the install. Note: This will install Etch by default,
with Lenny's sources.list, so when you boot into the newly installed
system you may be prompted with some upgrades, which is completely
normal.

It worked fine for me, but I did it the day after the Lenny installer
was released.

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Re: Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-21 Thread Michael Pobega
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 10:08:57PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on my computer using the CD. (I
> burned all 22 CDs, because I'm not hooked to the internet just yet.) I
> was running Debian Etch on the computer before.
> 
> I get through the first portion of the installation, including the
> partitioning of the hard drive, when the installation crashes.
> 
> The error message I get is:
> 
> Base System Installation Error
> The debootstra program exited with an error (return value 1)
> 
> Failed to install the base system
> The base system installatio into /target/ failed.
> 
> Is there a way for me to fix this problem? Do I need to download the
> ISO for the first CD in the installation again? Should I file a bug
> report?
> 
> Its odd that I can't install Debian on a computer that was just
> running Debian. :]
> 
> Thanks so much for the help. I'd love to try out the updated Debian
> this weekend.
> 
> Scott Huey
> 
> 

Since Etch and Lenny are almost the same at this point in time, this
should work for you.

Jump to a virtual terminal, and:

cd /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
cp etch lenny

And continue with the install. Note: This will install Etch by default,
with Lenny's sources.list, so when you boot into the newly installed
system you may be prompted with some upgrades, which is completely
normal.

It worked fine for me, but I did it the day after the Lenny installer
was released.

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Problem installing Debian Lenny "Failed to install base system"

2007-04-20 Thread Redefined Horizons

I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on my computer using the CD. (I
burned all 22 CDs, because I'm not hooked to the internet just yet.) I
was running Debian Etch on the computer before.

I get through the first portion of the installation, including the
partitioning of the hard drive, when the installation crashes.

The error message I get is:

Base System Installation Error
The debootstra program exited with an error (return value 1)

Failed to install the base system
The base system installatio into /target/ failed.

Is there a way for me to fix this problem? Do I need to download the
ISO for the first CD in the installation again? Should I file a bug
report?

Its odd that I can't install Debian on a computer that was just
running Debian. :]

Thanks so much for the help. I'd love to try out the updated Debian
this weekend.

Scott Huey


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Re: problem installing Debian on HP R class 9000

2007-02-25 Thread ram




 Hi all


iam using web console to configure HP R Class 9000 Server

iam attaching the gif files taken screen shot when its booting

here are the Files

any suggestion and help will be appriciated




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problem installing Debian on HP R class 9000

2007-02-22 Thread ram

Hi all

I have HP R Class 900 Server

I have downloaded  debian hppa

and reading the document of PA-RISK How to boot

and when boot started i select boot from

boot p1( is the CDROM connected)

I got the menu, and select English, and Country, after that, its reading CD

after a 15min i get a error on console

Kernel Panic- not syncing:drivers/parisc/ccio-dma.c: ccio_alloc_range() I/O
MMU is out of mapping resources

any help and suggestions

Ram


Re: md5sum.txt corrupted? (Problem installing Debian "Etch" Snapshot 2006-12-11)

2006-12-21 Thread sciencisto-debian

--- Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 06:30:01PM +0100,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi everybody.
> > 
> > I've just finished download the Debian "Etch" weekly-build
> > (2006-12-11) and, when I've tried to install Debian, I've got
> this
> > message:
> > 
> > "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make
> sure
> > it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check
> the
> > integrity of your CD-ROM."
> > 
> > In fact, retrying does not work. So I checked out the integrity
> of
> > the dvd containing the Debian Snapshot, and then I received this
> > message:
> > 
> > "The ./md5sum.txt file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your
> > CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."
> 
> How did you check exactly?
> 


In the (expert) installer menu, there is (at the bottom) a line that
says something like "Check the integrity of the cd-rom" (I don't
remember exactly what it says, but it is something like that). I just
selected it.


> > (I've got the above message with the DVD Binary-1 and also with
> DVD
> > Binary-2, which I also checked out.)
> > 
> > Cause I received that message with the DVD Binary-1 and 2, I
> think
> > that there is some kind of problem about this snapshot (besides,
> the
> > downloading of the .iso files was OK, and also the recording on
> the
> > DVD).
> 
> How can you tell? Did you use bittorrent or jigdo? Normal ftp/http
> downloads can get corrupted, so always check the .iso before
> burning it.


OK, I didn't check out the md5sum of the iso files (I think that I
didn't do that because I didn't see (?) the md5sum files of the
weekly build; I should have looked for them).

By the way, I downloaded them from cdimage.debian.org using
FileZilla.


> I will save you a lot of trouble.
> 
> > Any idea about what's happening? Is there any solution?
> 
> You should check the .iso files (if you still have them). If they
> are
> corrupted you need to download them again, but you should use
> bittorrent
> or jigdo this time.
> 


I'll have that into account for the next time!

Anyway, isn't strange that almost every package failed the md5
checksum? (see my previous message).

Thanks for your help!



> Regards,
> Andrei
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RE: md5sum.txt corrupted? (Problem installing Debian "Etch" Snapshot 2006-12-11)

2006-12-21 Thread sciencisto-debian
I've just runned this command in the shell provided by the installer:

md5sum -c md5sum.txt

and a lot of packages failed the md5 checksum (in fact, almost every
package in the DVD Binary-1). It seems _very_ strange, isn't it?

Any idea?

TIA.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

> Hi everybody.
> 
> I've just finished download the Debian "Etch" weekly-build
> (2006-12-11) and, when I've tried to install Debian, I've got this
> message:
> 
> "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure
> it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the
> integrity of your CD-ROM."
> 
> In fact, retrying does not work. So I checked out the integrity of
> the dvd containing the Debian Snapshot, and then I received this
> message:
> 
> "The ./md5sum.txt file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your
> CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."
> 
> (I've got the above message with the DVD Binary-1 and also with DVD
> Binary-2, which I also checked out.)
> 
> Cause I received that message with the DVD Binary-1 and 2, I think
> that there is some kind of problem about this snapshot (besides,
> the
> downloading of the .iso files was OK, and also the recording on the
> DVD).
> 
> Any idea about what's happening? Is there any solution?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> ps I have tried the installation on two different computers, and
> both
> of them reported the same problem.
> 
> 
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Re: md5sum.txt corrupted? (Problem installing Debian "Etch" Snapshot 2006-12-11)

2006-12-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 06:30:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi everybody.
> 
> I've just finished download the Debian "Etch" weekly-build
> (2006-12-11) and, when I've tried to install Debian, I've got this
> message:
> 
> "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure
> it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the
> integrity of your CD-ROM."
> 
> In fact, retrying does not work. So I checked out the integrity of
> the dvd containing the Debian Snapshot, and then I received this
> message:
> 
> "The ./md5sum.txt file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your
> CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."

How did you check exactly?

> (I've got the above message with the DVD Binary-1 and also with DVD
> Binary-2, which I also checked out.)
> 
> Cause I received that message with the DVD Binary-1 and 2, I think
> that there is some kind of problem about this snapshot (besides, the
> downloading of the .iso files was OK, and also the recording on the
> DVD).

How can you tell? Did you use bittorrent or jigdo? Normal ftp/http
downloads can get corrupted, so always check the .iso before burning it.
I will save you a lot of trouble.

> Any idea about what's happening? Is there any solution?

You should check the .iso files (if you still have them). If they are
corrupted you need to download them again, but you should use bittorrent
or jigdo this time.

Regards,
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md5sum.txt corrupted? (Problem installing Debian "Etch" Snapshot 2006-12-11)

2006-12-21 Thread sciencisto-debian
Hi everybody.

I've just finished download the Debian "Etch" weekly-build
(2006-12-11) and, when I've tried to install Debian, I've got this
message:

"There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure
it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the
integrity of your CD-ROM."

In fact, retrying does not work. So I checked out the integrity of
the dvd containing the Debian Snapshot, and then I received this
message:

"The ./md5sum.txt file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your
CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."

(I've got the above message with the DVD Binary-1 and also with DVD
Binary-2, which I also checked out.)

Cause I received that message with the DVD Binary-1 and 2, I think
that there is some kind of problem about this snapshot (besides, the
downloading of the .iso files was OK, and also the recording on the
DVD).

Any idea about what's happening? Is there any solution?


Thanks in advance.

ps I have tried the installation on two different computers, and both
of them reported the same problem.



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Re: Problem installing Debian Etch on SATA partitions

2006-06-11 Thread srg krn

Exatly the same thing hapened to me.
What I done was installing an older version of debian and once
installed upgrade it.

Thanks and best regards

On 6/10/06, Thomas Martinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello.
I'm trying to install Debian Etch, which I got from
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ (the DVD
ISos were dated 5th june).

While installing, I choosed the expert mode, and followed the steps..

When I came to the step where it asks me about the "Partition method",
It only shows one option, "Manually edit partition table". This step
looks this: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/658/11.gif , except it
only got the last option.

Then I proceeded (to the only available option).. Well, that step does
not list any of my hard drives, the step is like this:
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/658/13.gif , but it only shows the
four first options and the two last.. (so everything except the devices).

What I want to do, is to install on an already existing partition.. But
I'm stuck, I can't seem to find how to get Debian Installer to get along
with my SATA drives.
And also, I went to the console by using ALT+F2, tried to mount my
partition typing mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1, and it worked fine. So it's
supported by the kernel, but it seems Debian Installer just refuses to
find them..

For the record, I found a FAQ (located here:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#head-a5623cd5a3ec3d8d6a1eef09e3e4c00f911f8b18),
that says SATA is supported in Etch, so I find this weird.

Thanks,
Thomas Martinsen
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Problem installing Debian Etch on SATA partitions

2006-06-10 Thread Thomas Martinsen

Hello.
I'm trying to install Debian Etch, which I got from 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ (the DVD 
ISos were dated 5th june).


While installing, I choosed the expert mode, and followed the steps..

When I came to the step where it asks me about the "Partition method", 
It only shows one option, "Manually edit partition table". This step 
looks this: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/658/11.gif , except it 
only got the last option.


Then I proceeded (to the only available option).. Well, that step does 
not list any of my hard drives, the step is like this: 
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/658/13.gif , but it only shows the 
four first options and the two last.. (so everything except the devices).


What I want to do, is to install on an already existing partition.. But 
I'm stuck, I can't seem to find how to get Debian Installer to get along 
with my SATA drives.
And also, I went to the console by using ALT+F2, tried to mount my 
partition typing mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1, and it worked fine. So it's 
supported by the kernel, but it seems Debian Installer just refuses to 
find them..


For the record, I found a FAQ (located here: 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#head-a5623cd5a3ec3d8d6a1eef09e3e4c00f911f8b18), 
that says SATA is supported in Etch, so I find this weird.


Thanks,
Thomas Martinsen
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Re: Problem installing Debian on P5WD2 Asus motherboard

2006-01-30 Thread Colin
Jonis Maurin Ceará wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Is anybody using Debian with this motherboard?
> It's almost 10 days that i'm trying wihout successthey can't find my
> hard disk (maybe the controller?)
> 
> Chipset MB: Intel 955X
> Controller: ICHR7 (Intel)
> HD: Seagate SATA 200Gb (not in RAID)
> Debian: Sarge 3.1.r0

The ICH7 chipset is too new for Sarge.  You'll have to try the Etch beta
version which uses a newer kernel.

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/


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Problem installing Debian on P5WD2 Asus motherboard

2006-01-30 Thread Jonis Maurin Ceará

Hi all.

Is anybody using Debian with this motherboard?
It's almost 10 days that i'm trying wihout successthey can't find my 
hard disk (maybe the controller?)


Chipset MB: Intel 955X
Controller: ICHR7 (Intel)
HD: Seagate SATA 200Gb (not in RAID)
Debian: Sarge 3.1.r0

PS: i also tryied installing using kernel 2.6 but no success again :(


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Re: Problem Installing Debian 3.0r1 on HP Visualize C3700 workstation

2004-11-16 Thread Jason Rennie
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:47:06PM -0500, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:
> I am experimenting with Debian 3.0r1 and have a Visualize C3700 workstation.

You might have better luck trying to install Sarge (testing):

  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Use the "netinst CD image, with Debian base" image that corresponds to
your architecture.

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Re: Problem Installing Debian 3.0r1 on HP Visualize C3700 workstation

2004-11-16 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:47:06PM -0500, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:
> Hi there --
> 
> I am experimenting with Debian 3.0r1 and have a Visualize C3700 workstation.

I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be more helpful than
debian-user for this.

Frank

> I have downloaded the
> HPPA images and have gone through the motions of installing the operating
> system. What happens
> is the following:
> 
> I insert the CD into the system and interrupt the boot process. I then run a
> SEArch on the system
> for the appropriate drives. The CD-ROM and hard drive (located in FWSCSI.6.0)
> are detected. I then
> type in BO P0, P0 being the 'path' for the CD-ROM drive, to boot from the CD.
> The system appears
> to begin the install process but then the screen goes black. After a minute 
> what
> appears to be a 
> screen dump of some kind appears onscreen. There is no further action that 
> takes
> place, and the
> only recourse I have is to reboot the system.
> 
> I have also simply inserted the CD and booted up the system, with the results
> being the same as
> those listed above. 
> 
> Has anyone seen this problem and been able to overcome it? Thanks.
> 
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Problem Installing Debian 3.0r1 on HP Visualize C3700 workstation

2004-11-16 Thread Kaplan, Andrew H.
Hi there --

I am experimenting with Debian 3.0r1 and have a Visualize C3700 workstation. I
have downloaded the
HPPA images and have gone through the motions of installing the operating
system. What happens
is the following:

I insert the CD into the system and interrupt the boot process. I then run a
SEArch on the system
for the appropriate drives. The CD-ROM and hard drive (located in FWSCSI.6.0)
are detected. I then
type in BO P0, P0 being the 'path' for the CD-ROM drive, to boot from the CD.
The system appears
to begin the install process but then the screen goes black. After a minute what
appears to be a 
screen dump of some kind appears onscreen. There is no further action that takes
place, and the
only recourse I have is to reboot the system.

I have also simply inserted the CD and booted up the system, with the results
being the same as
those listed above. 

Has anyone seen this problem and been able to overcome it? Thanks.


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Re: problem installing debian

2004-06-29 Thread Adam Aube
Karl Hegbloom wrote:

> We need more mentions in significantly technical articles.  That will help
> the distribution gain public favor and respect as a professional quality
> enterprise grade Linux. 

How about an endorsement from Google's SysAdmin?

"[Google's senior SysAdmin]'s platform of choice is Debian GNU/Linux"

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1306281842;fp;16;fpid;0

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Re: problem installing debian

2004-06-29 Thread Karl Hegbloom
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 18:36 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- Ephraim Stanfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > I'm new to Debian and Linux.  I purchased the Debian
> > GNU/Linux Bible by Steve Hunger that came with 1 CD
> > with Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2 edition.
> 
> That's quite old now.

I wish more books like it would be written and dual-published both for
free access on the net (and installation into laptops), as well as in
paperback to sell at book stores.

It irks me that most articles about Linux will list the commercial
distributions, and blatantly fail to mention Debian.  It's as if there's
a taboo against mentioning it.  We need more mentions in significantly
technical articles.  That will help the distribution gain public favor
and respect as a professional quality enterprise grade Linux.

> I suggest you download the new beta4 installer:

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

The new installer really rocks!  It's awesome.  I think it works better
than either Anaconda or the Windows XP installer.

Hint:  http://www.sysresccd.org/  has a partition editor on it called
QtParted.  I don't know if their version is hacked for it or if QtParted
supports it out-of-the-box, but this rescue cd can resize a Windows XP
NTFS partition with no trouble at all.  Don't waste any money on
PartitionMagic!

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Re: problem installing debian

2004-06-29 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Ephraim Stanfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm new to Debian and Linux.  I purchased the Debian
> GNU/Linux Bible by Steve Hunger that came with 1 CD
> with Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2 edition.

That's quite old now.
 
> I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 and tried to install
> Debian with the CD.  It seems the kernel freezes up

I'm not surprised. That kernel version lacks support for new hardware. I
suggest you download the new beta4 installer:

http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

burn that to a CD, and install it that way.

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problem installing debian

2004-06-29 Thread Ephraim Stanfield
Hello,

I'm new to Debian and Linux.  I purchased the Debian
GNU/Linux Bible by Steve Hunger that came with 1 CD
with Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2 edition.

I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 and tried to install
Debian with the CD.  It seems the kernel freezes up
with the PCMCIA.  I've tried to research the problem
but do not know how to fix it.  The laptop has a Texas
Instruments PCI 4450/4451 CardBus controller.

Can you help?




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Re: Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

2004-02-29 Thread Greg Madden
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On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:06 am, Douglas A. Paquette Jr. wrote:
> To whom it may concern at Debian,
>
> I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 320 10k 72.8 gig
> scsi hard drives.
>
> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
>
> I had a guy from a computer store successfully install debian into my
> proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my webmaster and
> this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got it
> installed.
>
> I want to format and reinstall debian into my proliant 8000 again for
> a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not detecting any hard
> drives during the first part of the install process.
>
> I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition using Compaq's Smart
> Start CD and still it does not detect any drives.
>
> I have even wiped out all the data and installed the debian cd with
> no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything and still
> no go.
>
> Is there anyone who has any experience installing debian on proliant
> servers who could help me out with this.
>
> I have done everything i know of to do.
>
> I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 9, it detects the
> drives and the raid config without hesitation.
>
> But debian doesnt.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 708-334-5845
>
> Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Doug Paquette

This is what the specs say the controller is, RedHat 7.2 is supported on 
that box. "Smart Array 2xx, 3xxx and 42xx Family of Controllers", which 
is the cpq_cpqarray driver. 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/17261.html

Using Woody the 2.4.18bf kernel has this driver compiled into the 
kernel. This is for the Smart Array 5xxx series, not sure if it is 
backwards compatable.

CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA=y

Not much help, but 'disks not found' in this type of situation can mean 
no driver compiled into the kernel , for the hardware raid card, for 
the Woody kernels.  You need to make sure the driver for the raid card 
is available in the install kernel.
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Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

2004-02-29 Thread Douglas A. Paquette Jr.




To whom it may concern at Debian,
 
I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 
320 10k 72.8 gig scsi hard drives.
 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
 
I had a guy from a computer store successfully 
install debian into my proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my 
webmaster and this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got 
it installed.
 
I want to format and reinstall debian into my 
proliant 8000 again for a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not 
detecting any hard drives during the first part of the install 
process.
 
I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition 
using Compaq's Smart Start CD and still it does not detect any 
drives.
 
I have even wiped out all the data and installed 
the debian cd with no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything 
and still no go.
 
Is there anyone who has any experience installing 
debian on proliant servers who could help me out with this.
 
I have done everything i know of to 
do.
 
I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 
9, it detects the drives and the raid config without hesitation.
 
But debian doesnt.
 
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Any advice or help would be greatly 
appreciated.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Sincerely,
 
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Re: Problem installing Debian 3.0 r1 on Promise Ultra100 TX2 Controller

2004-01-22 Thread Jan Minar
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 08:56:13AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  I tested with Suse
> 8.1 (Install options acpi=off and it works), but where can I find an
> install-boot option like this in Debian.

IIRC, the acpi=off is documented among the Function-keys switchable
helpscreens--just append ``acpi=off'' to the kernel commandline there.

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Problem installing Debian 3.0 r1 on Promise Ultra100 TX2 Controller

2004-01-21 Thread Marcus . Hellwig
Hello Debian Users,

I have installed an Ultra 100 TX, and wish to install Debian 3.0
(bf24-Kernel).
It is an ASUS P2B98 OEM Mainboard with Intel onboard IDE Controller, 2 HDs
(Fujitsu 8 GB, WD 20 GB), Internal ZiP Drive and DVD ROMdrive
The Promise is recognized correctly as PCD 20xxx IDE Controller
If I connect an IBM/Hitachi Deskstar 120 (Mod. IC35, 80 GB Capacity),
Linux boot will hang up, while detecting the Harddisks, after the last
onboard IDE drive was detected as "/dev/hdd".The IBMdrive should be
/dev/hde and I have to power the System off to restart . I tested with Suse
8.1 (Install options acpi=off and it works), but where can I find an
install-boot option like this in Debian.
On the Debian website I only have found an issue about Promise Fast Trak
RAID Contollers. Promise Support was unable to help me.


Can you help me?

sincerely
Marcus Hellwig






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Problem installing debian over network

2004-01-13 Thread Udaypal Aarkoti
Hi,
I'm a newbie to the Linux World and especially Debian. I was running Red Hat so 
far on my machine and have decided to move to Debian. I followed the instruction given 
@ Debian.org and downloaded a Minimal CD image to install Debian over Network 
(http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/). After downloading a minimal image from 
http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/vanilla-3.0.23-netinst.iso I burned 
the image onto the CD and started installing it on my machine. After everything was 
done and I was ready to install the base image I get the following error no matter 
which mirror site I choose, I'm not sure why this is happening
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.1.uus-4_i386.deb is corrupted.
Can't download PPP.
I'm not sure why this is happening with every mirror site I choose. Am I doing 
something wrong, or am I missing something?
I really appreciate any help.
Regards,
Udaypal Aarkoti


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Problem installing Debian on a Gateway m500 notebook

2003-09-13 Thread Hooman
Hi all,
I am trying to install Debian on a Gateway m500
notebook. Installation of the main modules and kernel
goes very smoothly. I didn't select anything extra to
the basic operating system with 'tasksel'.
After the installation finished and I rebooted the
system, a lot of numbers scrolled on the screen and
after a while I received something like this:

code: 89 01 8b 0a 85 c9 ...
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at
virtual address 0010
Current --> tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 
$s = c01fad27
CPU = 0
:
:

This is my second attempt, and each time the result
was the same.

Please give me some help to install Debian on this
machine.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Problem installing Debian woody

2002-11-27 Thread D.H
Thank you for your help!
Now I know that was not because of bad media.
The error was occured at configuration process, not the installation process. maybe 
some important parameters needed by by that package were not correctly assigned.

- Original Message - 
From: "Levi Waldron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "D.H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: Problem installing Debian woody


> On November 27, 2002 03:07 am, D.H wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have tried to install Debian woody on my box for about 3 times(I
> > downloaded all the 7 ISO image files and burn them on CD), but every time i
> > got the same error when installing "diald" package, luckly, it doesn't
> > interrupt the whole installation process. The error message says something
> > about "dpkg returns (-1) when reading diald_0.99.4-5_i386.deb", I am sure
> > that this was not because of "Module dependency", someone tell me maybe it
> > was caused by the bad CD media, but there is no error occured during buring
> > process.I am puzzled now, anyone can help me ? Thanks in Advance.
> 
> Probably bad media.  If you have a working Linux, check it by:
> mount /cdrom
> cd /cdrom
> md5sum -c md5sum.txt
> 
> No output = good, error outputs = bad
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Re: Problem installing Debian woody

2002-11-27 Thread Levi Waldron
On November 27, 2002 03:07 am, D.H wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have tried to install Debian woody on my box for about 3 times(I
> downloaded all the 7 ISO image files and burn them on CD), but every time i
> got the same error when installing "diald" package, luckly, it doesn't
> interrupt the whole installation process. The error message says something
> about "dpkg returns (-1) when reading diald_0.99.4-5_i386.deb", I am sure
> that this was not because of "Module dependency", someone tell me maybe it
> was caused by the bad CD media, but there is no error occured during buring
> process.I am puzzled now, anyone can help me ?
 Thanks in Advance.

Probably bad media.  If you have a working Linux, check it by:
mount /cdrom
cd /cdrom
md5sum -c md5sum.txt

No output = good, error outputs = bad


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Re: Problem installing Debian woody

2002-11-27 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:07:22PM +0800, D.H wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have tried to install Debian woody on my box for about 3 times(I downloaded 
>all the 7 ISO image files and burn them on CD), but every time i got the same error 
>when installing "diald" package, luckly, it doesn't interrupt the whole installation 
>process. The error message says something about "dpkg returns (-1) when reading 
>diald_0.99.4-5_i386.deb", I am sure that this was not because of "Module dependency", 
>someone tell me maybe it was caused by the bad CD media, but there is no error 
>occured during buring process.I am puzzled now, anyone can help me ?
>Thanks in Advance.

well, in my view, this seems to be a problem of bad media. why dont you
check the media on some other machine? anyway, go ahead and
install the system - without the diald package. after having done that,
you can always go to debian site and download and install diald.

and yes, welcome to the club of lucky few who have switched to debian!

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Problem installing Debian woody

2002-11-27 Thread D.H



Hi all,
    I have tried to install Debian woody on my 
box for about 3 times(I downloaded all the 7 ISO image files and burn them on 
CD), but every time i got the same error when installing "diald" package, 
luckly, it doesn't interrupt the whole installation process. The error message 
says something about "dpkg returns (-1) when reading diald_0.99.4-5_i386.deb", I 
am sure that this was not because of "Module dependency", someone tell me maybe 
it was caused by the bad CD media, but there is no error occured during buring 
process.I am puzzled now, anyone can help me ?
   Thanks in 
Advance.


Re: Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-13 Thread Aldous B Bernardo

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>If ya ever figure it out Dan...I'll owe ya b big one as I was having the same 
>trouble (same card too). Still am actually..Had to move to other projects so 
>my Debian is idle  :-(
>
>Lee
>
>
>> Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official
>> vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window
>> system
>>
>> this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used:
>>
>> _exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed
>> _x11transSocketUNIXConnect can't connect: errno= (111)
>> giving up
>> xinit:connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to xserver
>> no such process (errno 3) server error
>>
>> I've heard about problems with the geforce2 mx400/linux and since using
>> this card have had trouble using graphics with other distros as well
>> (mandrake, suse)
>>
>> my system:
>> 1Ghz K7
>> Gigabyte 7dxr m/b
>> 256mb DDR Ram
>> nvidia Geforce2 mx400 64mb
>> 2 HDs
>>
>> debian was installed using a 128mb swap partition and two other 3gb linux
>> native partitions, initially i installed a lot of packages incl. the
>> x-windows components but a lot of errors were reported during setup, after
>> i found i couldn't get to a desktop i tried reinstalling the system and
>> installed the xwin components ONLY however the same errors and problem
>> occured - any help will be gratefully received (it may be something really
>> obvious but i'm an absolute beginner (sorry))
>>
>>
>> David S.

Greetings!

I had the same problem while installing Potato last week. lots of error 111. I 
am using S3 Virge and Voodoo2. This happened "everytime"  I installed potato. 

1) Pressed Ctrl+Alt+Bkspace when It is going to X ( well not relly going into X 
just blinking) 

2) If it doesn't work try Ctrl+C when the installer prompts for an enter key.

3) Just let the installer continue

4) Use XF86Setup after you have logged in.

I'm not sure if this will work for you, keep me informed with you r progress.

Aldous



Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-11 Thread Paul E Condon
Roderick Cummings wrote:

> >From: "David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Debian enquiries" 
> >Subject: problem installing debian
> >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:31:41 -
> >
> >Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official
> >vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window
> >system
> >
> >this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used:
> >
> >_exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed
> >_x11transSocketUNIXConnect can't connect: errno= (111)
> >giving up
> >xinit:connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to xserver
> >no such process (errno 3) server error
> >
> >I've heard about problems with the geforce2 mx400/linux and since using
> >this card have had trouble using graphics with other distros as well
> >(mandrake, suse)
> >
> >my system:
> >1Ghz K7
> >Gigabyte 7dxr m/b
> >256mb DDR Ram
> >nvidia Geforce2 mx400 64mb
> >2 HDs
> >
> >debian was installed using a 128mb swap partition and two other 3gb linux
> >native partitions,
> >initially i installed a lot of packages incl. the x-windows components but
> >a lot of errors were reported during setup, after i found i couldn't get to
> >a desktop i tried reinstalling the system and installed the xwin components
> >ONLY however the same errors and problem occured - any help will be
> >gratefully received (it may be something really obvious but i'm an absolute
> >beginner (sorry))
> >
> >
> >David S.
>
> Are you trying to run XFSetup(debconf) or xf86config? On most of the
> system's I've installed XFSetup doesn't work.
>

On the other hand ...
I recently joined Debian. I installed Potato on two machines. I had many
failed installs on both machines. The last two installs (one on each machine)
were successful. I am convinced that I finally succeeded because I avoided
touching xf86config, and used only XF86Setup. My impression was that
I did not understand the xf86config user interface well enough to give
error free answers or to recover from having given an erroneous answer.
XF86Setup was not easy, but I lucked out with it.

Paul



Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-11 Thread Roderick Cummings





From: "David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian enquiries" 
Subject: problem installing debian
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:31:41 -

Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official 
vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window 
system


this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used:

_exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed
_x11transSocketUNIXConnect can't connect: errno= (111)
giving up
xinit:connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to xserver
no such process (errno 3) server error

I've heard about problems with the geforce2 mx400/linux and since using 
this card have had trouble using graphics with other distros as well 
(mandrake, suse)


my system:
1Ghz K7
Gigabyte 7dxr m/b
256mb DDR Ram
nvidia Geforce2 mx400 64mb
2 HDs

debian was installed using a 128mb swap partition and two other 3gb linux 
native partitions,
initially i installed a lot of packages incl. the x-windows components but 
a lot of errors were reported during setup, after i found i couldn't get to 
a desktop i tried reinstalling the system and installed the xwin components 
ONLY however the same errors and problem occured - any help will be 
gratefully received (it may be something really obvious but i'm an absolute 
beginner (sorry))



David S.



Are you trying to run XFSetup(debconf) or xf86config? On most of the 
system's I've installed XFSetup doesn't work.



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Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:31:41PM -, David S wrote:
:Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official vendors 
on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window system 
:
:this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used:
:
:_exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed
:_x11transSocketUNIXConnect can't connect: errno= (111)
:giving up
:xinit:connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to xserver
:no such process (errno 3) server error

Hmmm, your *first* problem is that XFree86 isn't installed

:I've heard about problems with the geforce2 mx400/linux and since using this 
card have had trouble using graphics with other distros as well (mandrake, suse)

Your *second* problem is that XFree86 version 3.3.x doesn't support your
video card and "stable" doesn't have version 4.x yet.

Fear not, you can add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list :


# XFree86 v4.x support #

deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/i386/
deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/all/

then as root:
apt-get update
apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xbase-clients xutils xterm xprt

I'm not sure you need to specify all of those, some may be pulled in
as dependencies but being explicit can't hurt.

your *third* problem will be getting the /etc/XF86Config-4 file right,
if the tools don't do the magic for you, email me directly and I'll
send a base config that should work ok (though probably not to the
full capacity of your monitor).  I support alot of systems with nVidia
cards so I have a generic config lying around

your *fourth* problem will be getting hardware 3D acceleration
working.  In the testing branch there's some wrapper .debs for pulling
in the non-redistributable nVidia kernel module and OpenGL libraries,
but I have a howto (not the best, but a start) at:

http://www.ai.mit.edu/lab/sysadmin/debian/nvidia.html

Sweet system, though perhaps a little bleeding edge for Debian
"stable" near the end (I hope :) of a release cycle.

HTH,
-Jon



problem installing debian

2002-01-10 Thread David S



Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official 
vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window 
system 
 
this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used:
 
_exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed_x11transSocketUNIXConnect can't 
connect: errno= (111)giving upxinit:connection refused (errno 111) 
unable to connect to xserverno such process (errno 3) server error
 
I've heard about problems with the geforce2 mx400/linux and since using 
this card have had trouble using graphics with other distros as well (mandrake, 
suse)
 
my system:1Ghz K7Gigabyte 7dxr m/b256mb DDR Ramnvidia 
Geforce2 mx400 64mb2 HDs
 
debian was installed using a 128mb swap partition and two other 3gb linux 
native partitions,initially i installed a lot of packages incl. the 
x-windows components but a lot of errors were reported during setup, after i 
found i couldn't get to a desktop i tried reinstalling the system and installed 
the xwin components ONLY however the same errors and problem occured - any help 
will be gratefully received (it may be something really obvious but i'm an 
absolute beginner (sorry))
 
David S.


Re: Weird problem installing Debian

2001-12-13 Thread Jason M. Harvey
the 3com i had was given to be by a friend. he told me to use irq=7,
which i did need. that is true... that was the big hurdle that i had
when i tried to get it working 
also, i can't guarentee that irq7 is what you want - he used that
floopy/3com software (dos-based) to set the irq. i've never used it, but
from what i hear it's software based, but not PnP

also, there's the 3c5x9utils package i can't remember which is which
... the 509 and the 905 ... not sure which is isa and pci! i've also
never used that 3c5x9utils package... i would hope it does the same
thing as the 3com dos software, but i don't know

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 06:12:37PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I've gotten this problem many times w/ the Etherlink III.  For some
> reason the card doesn't seem to work w/ debian's factory kernel in PnP
> mode.  I hate PnP anyway, so I disable that (there's a utility to do
> this on 3com's site.
> 
> Cameron Matheson
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 03:30, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> > I've got a spare machine which I'm trying to put Debian on. It's a K6-2 
> > 450, 
> > 128MB RAM, 10GB HD. Not a bad machine at all. I've had trouble putting 
> > Debian 
> > on it before, and ended up using Redhat. I'd love to get Debian working on 
> > it, 
> > cos I find Debian so much easier to use (that sounds almost blasphemous). 
> > So 
> > here's my problem.
> 

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Re: Weird problem installing Debian

2001-12-13 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

I've gotten this problem many times w/ the Etherlink III.  For some
reason the card doesn't seem to work w/ debian's factory kernel in PnP
mode.  I hate PnP anyway, so I disable that (there's a utility to do
this on 3com's site.

Cameron Matheson


On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 03:30, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> I've got a spare machine which I'm trying to put Debian on. It's a K6-2 450, 
> 128MB RAM, 10GB HD. Not a bad machine at all. I've had trouble putting Debian 
> on it before, and ended up using Redhat. I'd love to get Debian working on 
> it, 
> cos I find Debian so much easier to use (that sounds almost blasphemous). So 
> here's my problem.
> 
> It's got a 3Com Etherlink III card in it. Not a bad card, well supported. The 
> module installs for it - the link light on the hub lights, it accepts the IP 
> address I've put in - everything seems to be going fine. HOWEVER, I can't 
> ping 
> the machine, NOR can I get any network connectivity out. I've booted with the 
> idepci boot disks and the standard bootdisks for both the stable and testing 
> releases - same problem. It's not a hardware issue - Redhat works just fine 
> on 
> that machine. So where am I going wrong?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: Weird problem installing Debian

2001-12-13 Thread Steve Kieu
> It's got a 3Com Etherlink III card in it. Not a bad
> card, well supported. The 

The best way I think is, you should compile your own
kernel and modules, for your cards. First of all
examine the current situation by looking at the log
some where or the console when you try to insert the
modules for the card, to make sure that the card is
working; if not, make your own kernel to do that. If
the cards is ok, then you can run manully the ifconfig
command to configure the interface and try to ping out
through that interface to see.


> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 


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Re: Weird problem installing Debian

2001-12-13 Thread Jason M. Harvey
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:30:32AM +, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> I've got a spare machine which I'm trying to put Debian on. It's a K6-2 450, 
> 128MB RAM, 10GB HD. Not a bad machine at all. I've had trouble putting Debian 
> on it before, and ended up using Redhat. I'd love to get Debian working on 
> it, 
> cos I find Debian so much easier to use (that sounds almost blasphemous). So 
> here's my problem.
> 
> It's got a 3Com Etherlink III card in it. Not a bad card, well supported. The 
> module installs for it - the link light on the hub lights, it accepts the IP 
> address I've put in - everything seems to be going fine. HOWEVER, I can't 
> ping 
> the machine, NOR can I get any network connectivity out. I've booted with the 
> idepci boot disks and the standard bootdisks for both the stable and testing 
> releases - same problem. It's not a hardware issue - Redhat works just fine 
> on 
> that machine. So where am I going wrong?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> "I do not agree with what you say,
> but I will defend to the death your right to say it." 
> Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire (1694-1778)
> 

i'm definitely not as experienced in rh as debain... but i know the way
tcp/ip is configured is different. if the 3com is initialised at boot
with the correct ip (not using ifconfig), then it's getting it's info
from /etc/network/interfaces. that's slightly different from rh (6.2).
here's what mine looks like:

iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet static
address 64.93.82.x
netmask 255.255.255.x
gateway 64.93.82.x

i've never had to specify anything other than that (for a static ip),
not even the broadcast and network address. if that's the 10 mb isa
3com, i've had one working at home on 2 different pc's

good luck,
jason

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Weird problem installing Debian

2001-12-13 Thread Andrew Pritchard
I've got a spare machine which I'm trying to put Debian on. It's a K6-2 450, 
128MB RAM, 10GB HD. Not a bad machine at all. I've had trouble putting Debian 
on it before, and ended up using Redhat. I'd love to get Debian working on it, 
cos I find Debian so much easier to use (that sounds almost blasphemous). So 
here's my problem.

It's got a 3Com Etherlink III card in it. Not a bad card, well supported. The 
module installs for it - the link light on the hub lights, it accepts the IP 
address I've put in - everything seems to be going fine. HOWEVER, I can't ping 
the machine, NOR can I get any network connectivity out. I've booted with the 
idepci boot disks and the standard bootdisks for both the stable and testing 
releases - same problem. It's not a hardware issue - Redhat works just fine on 
that machine. So where am I going wrong?

Thanks for your help,

Andrew

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Re: Problem installing Debian.

2001-01-19 Thread David B . Harris
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Möller),
# After rebooting the system, my computer restarts after the message:
# 'warning: unable to open an initial console'

I can't solve your problem, but I might be able to point you in the
right direction. The only time I've ever seen that error what when I
accidentally hosed /dev (completely, all files were gone).

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



Problem installing Debian.

2001-01-19 Thread Stefan Möller
I downloaded and used the following files to make the disks and install the
drivers and the base system of the 'vanilla' kernel.

/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.20.0.1-2000-12-03/

images-1.44/rescue.bin
images-1.44/root.bin
base2_2.tgz
drivers.tgz

After rebooting the system, my computer restarts after the message:
'warning: unable to open an initial console'

???

Stefan Möller



Re: problem installing Debian

2000-08-25 Thread Nate Amsden
move the hdd to the onboard intel udma/33 controller and it should work,
then after linux is installed if you still want to use the ata 100
controller make sure you find a driver for it, install it(recompile
kernel) reboot the system and you can move it back to the ata100
controller.

nate

Oliver Kowalke wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've a problem installing Debian on my system:
> 
> 2 x PIII 500MHz
> ASUS P2B-D
> 128MB
> Matrox G200
> Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (IDE raid controler -> pci)
> Maxtor Diamond Max 8GB
> Lite On CDRom 32x
> 
> I've plugged the controler on a pci slot and connected the hdd to it. In the
> bios I set boot device to "SCSI" - the controler bios then detects the hdd.
> If I boot form Debian CD and try to install Linux on the hdd drive - the
> install prog doesn't find any hdd drive. How can I install Debian - what do
> you do if you try to install Debian on a SCSI-only system (maybe this should
> also work with the Abit controler).
> 
> thanks a lot,
> 
> Oliver
> 
> PS : If I set the hdd to the mobo ide controler -all works fine.
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problem installing Debian

2000-08-25 Thread Oliver Kowalke
Hi all,

I've a problem installing Debian on my system:

2 x PIII 500MHz
ASUS P2B-D
128MB
Matrox G200
Abit Hot Rod 100 Pro (IDE raid controler -> pci)
Maxtor Diamond Max 8GB
Lite On CDRom 32x

I've plugged the controler on a pci slot and connected the hdd to it. In the
bios I set boot device to "SCSI" - the controler bios then detects the hdd.
If I boot form Debian CD and try to install Linux on the hdd drive - the
install prog doesn't find any hdd drive. How can I install Debian - what do
you do if you try to install Debian on a SCSI-only system (maybe this should
also work with the Abit controler).

thanks a lot,

Oliver

PS : If I set the hdd to the mobo ide controler -all works fine.






Re: Problem installing Debian 2.2 from CD

2000-08-25 Thread Jake Hoban
This is the exact same problem I get when trying to install Debian 2.1 from
floppy images. On "install operating system kernel and modules" the
installer tells me it can't mount the boot floppy (although it has the
floppy drive mounted as /dev/ram0, but it is looking for /dev/fd0 which it
can't find because it doesn't exist.) I posted a message about this and got
a suggestion that my floppy might be hosed, but I made a few more and got
the same problem with each one.

Thanks for your reply earlier, Jonathan - any more ideas? :-)
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:33 PM
Subject: Problem installing Debian 2.2 from CD


> I'm having trouble installing Debian 2.2 on a i386 with an IDE CD-ROM. I'm
> installing from the CD, but Setup complains that it can't find the rescue
> floppy.
>
> I boot from the CD and start Setup without problem. I can partition my HD
> without problem. The problems begin during the "Install Operating System
> Kernel and Modules'' step. I choose to install from the CD-ROM and Setup
> asks me for the path to the "Debian archive". The default is /instmnt,
where
> Setup automatically mounted the CD. I verified that the CD is correctly
> mounted from another virtual console while Setup is running. Setup asks me
> for the path to the images-1.44/rescue.bin. I choose the default, which
> seems to find the file at
> /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/rescue.bin. Then
> Setup pops up an error message saying that it is unable to mount the
rescue
> floppy. At this point, Setup is hosed. I cannot continue because Setup
> insists on finding a rescue floppy that does not exist.
>
> Why is Setup trying to find a rescue floppy on /dev/fd0 when I told it to
> install from the mounted CD-ROM? How can I get around this broken Setup
step
> and install the operating system and kernel modules?
>
> thanks for your help!
> chris
>
>
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Re: Problem installing Debian 2.2 from CD

2000-08-23 Thread Chris Peterson
After reading some email from today's debian-user digest, I think I found my
problem. I am using CD-Rs from Cheapbytes and other people are complaining
of exactly the same "missing rescue floppy" problem during setup.

chris


- Original Message -
From: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:40 PM
Subject: Problem installing Debian 2.2 from CD


> I'm having trouble installing Debian 2.2 on a i386 with an IDE CD-ROM. I'm
> installing from the CD, but Setup complains that it can't find the rescue
> floppy.
>
> I boot from the CD and start Setup without problem. I can partition my HD
> without problem. The problems begin during the "Install Operating System
> Kernel and Modules'' step. I choose to install from the CD-ROM and Setup
> asks me for the path to the "Debian archive". The default is /instmnt,
where
> Setup automatically mounted the CD. I verified that the CD is correctly
> mounted from another virtual console while Setup is running. Setup asks me
> for the path to the images-1.44/rescue.bin. I choose the default, which
> seems to find the file at
> /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/rescue.bin. Then
> Setup pops up an error message saying that it is unable to mount the
rescue
> floppy. At this point, Setup is hosed. I cannot continue because Setup
> insists on finding a rescue floppy that does not exist.
>
> Why is Setup trying to find a rescue floppy on /dev/fd0 when I told it to
> install from the mounted CD-ROM? How can I get around this broken Setup
step
> and install the operating system and kernel modules?
>
> thanks for your help!
> chris
>
>



Problem installing Debian 2.2 from CD

2000-08-23 Thread Chris Peterson
I'm having trouble installing Debian 2.2 on a i386 with an IDE CD-ROM. I'm
installing from the CD, but Setup complains that it can't find the rescue
floppy.

I boot from the CD and start Setup without problem. I can partition my HD
without problem. The problems begin during the "Install Operating System
Kernel and Modules'' step. I choose to install from the CD-ROM and Setup
asks me for the path to the "Debian archive". The default is /instmnt, where
Setup automatically mounted the CD. I verified that the CD is correctly
mounted from another virtual console while Setup is running. Setup asks me
for the path to the images-1.44/rescue.bin. I choose the default, which
seems to find the file at
/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/rescue.bin. Then
Setup pops up an error message saying that it is unable to mount the rescue
floppy. At this point, Setup is hosed. I cannot continue because Setup
insists on finding a rescue floppy that does not exist.

Why is Setup trying to find a rescue floppy on /dev/fd0 when I told it to
install from the mounted CD-ROM? How can I get around this broken Setup step
and install the operating system and kernel modules?

thanks for your help!
chris




I Have a problem Installing Debian on my computer

2000-05-09 Thread POSKITT
I have a new 600 mhz dell and when i install debian on my computer it wont 
install because it cant detect what kind of hard disk i have and scuzi card 
for it, and im guessing because it is so new. Im very disapointed because i 
got my copy of debian from a 40 dollar 1000 page book and im very interested 
in getting linux on my computer but just cannot get it on. do you have any 
driver up dates or know where i could get them, or a command i could type 
before booting the install? thank you and please write back 



HELP!! problem installing Debian

1998-10-09 Thread David Sherow
I have a IBM PS/2 486dx with a 200 mg SCSI hd. The SCSI adapter is on
the sys. board.
I have the IRQ, ID,and LUN, is there boot method so that Debian will
recognize that
the hd is there. Cfdisk gives me an error like this FATAL ERROR Can not
open hard disk. With fdisk it says it can not access the hard disk but
it knows that it is a scsi hard disk. This all happens at the third
step: Partition a Hard Disk. Debian seams to know there's a scsi hard
disk but can't access it. Any help would be very much appreciated.
E-mail me back if you have any suggestions on anything I can try.

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-10 Thread Gertjan Klein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > Thanks, the thought here is that if a partition is a primary Linux
 > partition rather than a Linux partition sitting in a DOS extended
 > partition, perhaps a virus looking for DOS partitions will leave the LINUX
 > partitions alone. Whereas, viruses would recognise the extended partition
 > as a DOS partition and reek havoc on the DOS, thus trashing any Linux
 > partition residing within.

 > Thus a rescue floppy might allow you to at least recover Linux.
 > Any thoughts on this?

  I think I detect some confusion here - if not, I apologise for
explaining the obvious.  A Linux partition "sitting in a DOS extended
partition" can only exist if the extended partition has a DOS (FAT)
filesystem, with umsdos installed to it.  I presume this is not what you
mean.

  In general, extended partitions are not linked to DOS in any way.  An
entry for an extended partition in the MBR's partition table points to
*a second partition table* in a secondary MBR, somewhere else on disk.
This table can contain up to two entries: one for a normal partition (of
any type - e.g. DOS, type 6, or Linux, type 83) and an optional extended
partition entry that points to the next partition table.  (If this means
anything to you, this system resembles a linked list).

  As you can see, if Linux is installed to an extended partition, it
will have a partition of type 83, as usual - you just won't find it in
the MBR, but in some extended MBR somewhere.  If a virus is specifically
looking to destroy a _DOS_ filesystem it won't touch Linux (it wouldn't
go through the partition table anyway, it doesn't need to).  Of course,
if it destroys the information on where the partitions reside (i.e., the
partition table of the MBR of any subsequent extended MBRs), then Linux
won't be able to find the partition it is installed to anymore and can't
boot.  This could theoretically be fixed by booting from a recue floppy
and restoring the partition structure to it's original state.

  Gertjan.

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 10 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks, the thought here is that if a partition is a primary Linux partition
> rather than a Linux partition sitting in a DOS extended partition, perhaps a
> virus looking for DOS partitions will leave the LINUX partitions alone.
> Whereas, viruses would recognise the extended partition as a DOS partition and
> reek havoc on the DOS, thus trashing any Linux partition residing within.
> 
> Thus a rescue floppy might allow you to at least recover Linux.
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
The simpler solution is to not use DOS fsdisk to create partitions for
Linux. (I would argue this on general principles having nothing to do with
DOS virus) I know of at least three instances where the DOS created
partitions weren't even recognized by cfdisk, and in one case cfdisk
reported that the partition was "broken". Removing the DOS created
partitions and replacing them with cfdisk, has always repaired the
problem.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-10 Thread tko
Dale Scheetz writes:
> 
> On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting 
> > in a
> > "extended" partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_?
> > (like from a virus)
> > 
> I assume it does the same thing as trashing a primary partition ... FUBAR
> 
> Luck,

Thanks, the thought here is that if a partition is a primary Linux partition
rather than a Linux partition sitting in a DOS extended partition, perhaps a
virus looking for DOS partitions will leave the LINUX partitions alone.
Whereas, viruses would recognise the extended partition as a DOS partition and
reek havoc on the DOS, thus trashing any Linux partition residing within.

Thus a rescue floppy might allow you to at least recover Linux.
Any thoughts on this?

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-09 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting in a
> "extended" partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_?
> (like from a virus)
> 
I assume it does the same thing as trashing a primary partition ... FUBAR

Luck,

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-09 Thread tko
Dale Scheetz writes:
> 
> On 8 Dec 1997, Sten Anderson wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > That's the problem-^
> > > 
> > > When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove 
> > > these 
> > > pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. 
> > 
> > Are you saying that linux can't handle logical partitions? I am
> > currently running linux on logical partitions, so I gues I have proven
> > you wrong.
> > 
> While I can see how you got that impression (It looked that way to me as
> well), I believe what he is refering to is the difference between using
> DOS fdisk and Linux fdisk (or cfdisk). Logical partitions created with DOS
> fdisk are completely unusable by Linux, and often will result in cfdisk
> reporting a broke partition table. Using the original DOS tool to remove
> these partitions and replacing them using the Linux tool will usually
> recover the problem.

Thanks Dale! The original poster had used the DOS fdisk to create the logical
partition and of course was having trouble. To all the defenders of logical
partitions, hey what can I say? Properly created partitions are quite usable,
logical or otherwise. 

> 
> Linux, in general, and Debian, specifically, run quite nicely from a
> logical partition. This e-mail was sent from a system runing on a logical
> partition, so I know that part is true. I have had reports from others who
> have thought they were "getting ahead of the game" by creating their
> partitions in DOS before beginning the Debian install, and were disturbed
> to find that Debian didn't think there were any partitions available, or
> worse yet that their partition table was broken. Removing them with the
> DOS tool has always fixed this problem in the past.
> 

I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting in a
"extended" partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_?
(like from a virus)

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-09 Thread Gertjan Klein
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > Logical partitions created with DOS
 > fdisk are completely unusable by Linux, and often will result in cfdisk
 > reporting a broke partition table.

  In general, it is wise to assume human error or misunderstanding when
problems with partition tables appear.  I've _always_ used DOS fdisk
to create _all_ of my partitions [*], and have never encountered any
problems.  This includes many extended partitions, that were perfectly
visible by Linux. Personally, I'd sooner distrust cfdisk than DOS
fdisk anyway.

 > I have had reports from others who
 > have thought they were "getting ahead of the game" by creating their
 > partitions in DOS before beginning the Debian install, and were disturbed
 > to find that Debian didn't think there were any partitions available, or
 > worse yet that their partition table was broken.

  I've done that many times, and never had any problem.  I'd like to see
a partition table, created with DOS fdisk, with these 'problems'.

  Gertjan.

[*] Since DOS fdisk has severely limited capabilities, I used to have it
create a DOS partition, and then change (with a disk editor) the type to
whatever I wanted it to be.

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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 8 Dec 1997, Sten Anderson wrote:

> > 
> > That's the problem-^
> > 
> > When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove 
> > these 
> > pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. 
> 
> Are you saying that linux can't handle logical partitions? I am
> currently running linux on logical partitions, so I gues I have proven
> you wrong.
> 
While I can see how you got that impression (It looked that way to me as
well), I believe what he is refering to is the difference between using
DOS fdisk and Linux fdisk (or cfdisk). Logical partitions created with DOS
fdisk are completely unusable by Linux, and often will result in cfdisk
reporting a broke partition table. Using the original DOS tool to remove
these partitions and replacing them using the Linux tool will usually
recover the problem.

Linux, in general, and Debian, specifically, run quite nicely from a
logical partition. This e-mail was sent from a system runing on a logical
partition, so I know that part is true. I have had reports from others who
have thought they were "getting ahead of the game" by creating their
partitions in DOS before beginning the Debian install, and were disturbed
to find that Debian didn't think there were any partitions available, or
worse yet that their partition table was broken. Removing them with the
DOS tool has always fixed this problem in the past.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-08 Thread G John Lapeyre
On 8 Dec 1997, Sten Anderson wrote:

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Gianluca Ryo Trimarchi writes:
> > > 
> > > Few days ago I've installed my "new" hd (conner 1080mb) in my computer.=
> > >  It's
> > > splitted in three partions: 1 primary (dos fat 16) e 2 logical for linux =
> > 
> > That's the problem-^
> > 
> > When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove 
> > these 
> > pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. 
> 
> Are you saying that linux can't handle logical partitions? I am
> currently running linux on logical partitions, so I gues I have proven
> you wrong.

Linux and debian in particular most certainly _can_ use logical
partitions.  I missed the original post.  If you respond in private I may
be able to help.



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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-08 Thread Sten Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Gianluca Ryo Trimarchi writes:
> > 
> > Few days ago I've installed my "new" hd (conner 1080mb) in my computer.=
> >  It's
> > splitted in three partions: 1 primary (dos fat 16) e 2 logical for linux =
> 
> That's the problem-^
> 
> When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove these 
> pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. 

Are you saying that linux can't handle logical partitions? I am
currently running linux on logical partitions, so I gues I have proven
you wrong.

- Sten Anderson


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Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3

1997-12-08 Thread tko
Gianluca Ryo Trimarchi writes:
> 
> 
> First of all, sorry my bad English :-)
> 
> Please help me with these problem:
> 
> Few days ago I've installed my "new" hd (conner 1080mb) in my computer.=
>  It's
> splitted in three partions: 1 primary (dos fat 16) e 2 logical for linux =

That's the problem-^

When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove these 
pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. When the menu displays
'partition drive' as a selection, jump in and use the Linux version of fdisk
to delete everything *EXCEPT* /dev/hda1. Then create new 'primary' partitions
which will become the swap and root partitions. Use the 'type' command to
switch the new swap partition from ext2 to swap. And then write it out when
you are satisfied with the division of your drive.

Hope this helps you

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