Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-31 Thread Richmond
"Juan R.D. Silva"  writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my
> system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any
> alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks

You can use skype from the web page, web.skype.com, without installing
it. Maybe that would do?



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 10:53 PM George at Clug  wrote:
>
>  [...]
>
> I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?  How did you find it? If it 
> does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as 'Skype for Web' 
> might be a solution for myself if it works enough.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a
> Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions
>
> I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do that?
> Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype.

Skype for Web looks like it could be a good alternative for OP. It has
been around since 2019. Cf.,
<https://www.skype.com/en/blogs/2019-03-skype-online/>.

Both the Linux app from the *.deb and the browser-based app (and other
package formats, like MSI) likely use the web security model, so you
are f**k'd with either one. There's probably no benefit to using one
over the other. Neither can provide a secure channel, and both will
happily allow interception of your calls.

Skype also points people to their community for questions:
<http://go.skype.com/skype.community>. Maybe someone in the community
can answer the OP's questions, like what it's like to use the snap
version of the app.

Jeff



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 08:48:33 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> > > On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > > > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
> > > listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;
> > > 
> > > "
> > > An error occurred while processing your request.
> > > 
> > > Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> > > 
> > > https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> > > "
> > 
> > It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
> > time out), but it worked here (KS):
> > 
> >$ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> >--2024-05-30 18:59:55--  
> > https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> >Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
> > 2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
> >Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... 
> > connected.
> >HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> >Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
> >Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
> >skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > 100%[=>] 116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s
> >2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved 
> > [122062452/122062452]
> >$
> 
> If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.
> 
> Thank you in anticipation.

I haven't, but DEBIAN/control is attached, and there are
several occurrences of v8 in the main binary.

Cheers,
David.
Package: skypeforlinux
Version: 8.109.0.209
Architecture: amd64
Maintainer: Skype Technologies S.A. 
Installed-Size: 312110
Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk-bridge2.0-0 (>= 2.5.3), libatk1.0-0 (>= 
2.2.0), libatspi2.0-0 (>= 2.9.90), libc6 (>= 2.17), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), 
libdrm2 (>= 2.4.38), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgbm1 (>= 17.1.0~rc2), libgcc1 (>= 
1:3.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.39.4), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.9.10), libnspr4 (>= 
2:4.9-2~), libnss3 (>= 2:3.22), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libsecret-1-0 (>= 
0.18), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcb1 (>= 1.9.2), libxcomposite1 (>= 
1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxkbcommon0 (>= 
0.5.0), libxrandr2, gnome-keyring, apt-transport-https, libfontconfig1 (>= 
2.11.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.6.18), libstdc++6 (>= 4.8.1), libatomic1
Section: non-free/net
Priority: extra
Homepage: https://www.skype.com
Description: Skype keeps the world talking, for free.
 Skype keeps you together. Call, message and share with others.
  * It's free to download and join.
  * Call, instant message and send photos and documents to anyone else on Skype.
  * Easily text message anywhere in the world.
  * Get your friends together on a group call.
 And that's just the start...


Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 08:04, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:

On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb



Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;

"
An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
"


It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
time out), but it worked here (KS):

   $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
   --2024-05-30 18:59:55--  https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
   Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
   Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... 
connected.
   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
   Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
   Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
   
   skypeforlinux-64.deb100%[=>] 116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s
   
   2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved [122062452/122062452]
   
   $


Cheers,
David.

Hello.

If you install it, please tell me what is the version number.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 07:33, Dan Ritter wrote:





Does it work through a browser?

Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
through a browser.

-dsr-


Using each of those, apparently, comes with its own varying degree of risk.

Zoom and google might be okay, if you want your calls content 
intercepted and sold, and, used for impersonation, etc.


jitsi has been regarded as  the relatively safest.

The problems of zoom, etc ("we are recording you through your bedroom 
window, so we can use whatever amuses us"), has previously been 
discussed on this list, and, at The Register, with the Free Software 
Foundation telling its people to not uses zoom, and, recommending and 
adopting jitsi, for such communications.


Search list archive for zoom...

One great disadvantage, as far as I am aware, with skype, is that it has 
been available only for limited platforms; I have siblings who use Mac 
systems, for which, skype does not work. They use zoom for video calls, 
as it is cross-platform. They do not have the ICT awareness, to be aware 
of problems with zoom, in terms of privacy and security breaches by the 
provider.


A problem is that some people and institutions, are fixed in their ways, 
and mandate skype or zoom, or some other similarly disreputable software.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 31 May 2024 at 07:57:22 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:
> > wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
> > 
> 
> Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory
> listing (to find version numbers), returned the following;
> 
> "
> An error occurred while processing your request.
> 
> Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> 
> https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
> "

It took a few seconds while it thought about it (I thought it might
time out), but it worked here (KS):

  $ wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
  --2024-05-30 18:59:55--  https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
  Resolving repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)... 23.32.128.139, 
2001:578:2c:fe8b::1263, 2001:578:2c:fe99::1263
  Connecting to repo.skype.com (repo.skype.com)|23.32.128.139|:443... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
  Length: 122062452 (116M) [application/x-debian-package]
  Saving to: ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’
  
  skypeforlinux-64.deb100%[=>] 
116.41M  9.19MB/sin 12s 
  
  2024-05-30 19:00:27 (9.34 MB/s) - ‘skypeforlinux-64.deb’ saved 
[122062452/122062452]
  
  $ 

Cheers,
David.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread fjd

On Fri, 31 May 2024, Bret Busby wrote:


What version of skype do you have installed?

I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system.

But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years.

Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of snap 
was one of the reasons to leave Ubuntu Linux.


I haven't (yet) experienced the nastiness. Want to note there is still 
a web version.


fjd


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Verbum sat sapienti.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Xiyue Deng
Hi Juan,

"Juan R.D. Silva"  writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my
> system. Unfortunately, I still need Skype and I do not see any
> alternative but to concede to MS (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks
>

According to Snap docs[1], Snap has been available on Debian since
Stretch (9).  It looks like Skype page on snapcraft has instructions on
how to install it on Debian[2].

Skype also seems to be available on Flatpak[3], which has the same
version as on Snap (8.119.0.201), so you can also install it there if
you prefer Flatpak over Snap.

I haven't installed it so I cannot tell how well it works.  But I think
you can report to Microsoft should there be any issues.

[1] https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian
[2] https://snapcraft.io/install/skype/debian
[3] https://flathub.org/apps/com.skype.Client

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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 07:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote:










Good morning Juan

Three sites suggest:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb



Trying to access that URL with SeaMonkey, to view the directory listing 
(to find version numbers), returned the following;


"
An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb

https://errors.edgesuite.net/97.6edf56b8.1717113285.e8ac5eb
"


--

Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Bret Busby

On 31/5/24 06:58, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:

Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.


Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that 
thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?


Thanks


What version of skype do you have installed?

I have skypeforlinux 8.109.0.209 installed on a Linux Mint system.

But, I have not used skype, now, for about 11 years.

Regarding snap, with your reference to Ubuntu Linux, the imposition of 
snap was one of the reasons to leave Ubuntu Linux. snap is bloat, and 
leads to nastiness, like automatic updating of a system, so that, for 
example, if you would be in the middle of an important skype call, or, 
in the middle of another important task, expect to have it all shutdown 
- Ubuntu has gone the MS way (with its snap cr*p), and, starts doing a 
system update and reboot; so, if you really want any control that you 
have over your system, and, confidence in using your system, taken away 
from you then, infect it with snap.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Juan R.D. Silva wrote: 
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago it
> refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into it, I
> found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and basically
> forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

I'm pretty sure that if MS removed the package, it was not a
Debian official repo.

> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, I
> still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS (and
> Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
> 
> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Does it work through a browser?

Zoom works through a browser. Google Meet works through a
browser. MS Teams works through a browser. And Jitsi works
through a browser.

-dsr-



Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge



On 31/05/2024 9:29 am, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:

Hey Timothy, have you really read my post?

1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons 
for it, even if it surprises you.)
2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again 
read to post you replied to.
3. I really don't care what you personally use and if you are happy with 
it or not. I need a Skype user suggestion about a particular situation. 
You do not use Skype and have no clue to be in help. Then just skip off.


Boy, these thread hijacking boys are annoying.

Thanks


On 2024-05-30 7:06 p.m., Timothy M Butterworth wrote:



On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
mailto:juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    Hi folks,

    I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days 
ago

    it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
    it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
    basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

    Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
    Unfortunately,
    I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede
    to MS
    (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are 
free and work great just using the browser.


    Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with 
that

    thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

    Thanks



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Good morning Juan

Three sites suggest:

wget https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb

Some of them are older, but 1 refers to bookworm.

So maybe all isn't lost


All the best


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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread George at Clug
Juan,


Apologies I do not have an answer for you.


It would seem you love Snaps about as much as I do. I watch videos on
YouTube of people complaining about APT, or Synaptic, but I disagree
with them, I really like those programs and the Debian packaging
system. They are very reliable, just like Debian.



I too have a Skype account, but my friends have moved to other
platforms, so I only log in once or twice a year to see if anyone
messaged me. I do this via a Windows Virtual Machine using KVM. I only
use this solution for chat, not conferencing. And now with Windows 10
coming to and end, I guess my use of Skype will end too. My hardware
will not run Windows 11.



I am guessing you have tried 'Skype for Web' ?  How did you find it?
If it does not suite your purposes, I would like to know why, as
'Skype for Web' might be a solution for myself if it works enough.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/skype-for-web-preview-your-most-asked-questions-9c4836e4-5cdb-4261-ae46-d919b974af8a
Skype for Web (Preview) - your most asked questions

I want to try the Skype for Web (Preview) experience. How do I do
that?
Please go to https://preview.web.skype.com and sign into Skype. 



https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=snap
https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-debian


George.








On Friday, 31-05-2024 at 08:58 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:


Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days
ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to
MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.

Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that

thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Thanks


Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva

Hey Timothy, have you really read my post?

1. I wrote it clearly "I still need Skype". (And yes, I have my reasons 
for it, even if it surprises you.)
2. And how have you arrived to "Ubuntu" subject? I'm Debian user. Again 
read to post you replied to.
3. I really don't care what you personally use and if you are happy with 
it or not. I need a Skype user suggestion about a particular situation. 
You do not use Skype and have no clue to be in help. Then just skip off.


Boy, these thread hijacking boys are annoying.

Thanks


On 2024-05-30 7:06 p.m., Timothy M Butterworth wrote:



On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
mailto:juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.

Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system.
Unfortunately,
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede
to MS
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are 
free and work great just using the browser.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?

Thanks



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⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ <https://www.debian.org/>
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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately,
> I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS
> (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>

To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are free
and work great just using the browser.


> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks
>
>

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Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Juan R.D. Silva

Hi folks,

I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago 
it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into 
it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and 
basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.


Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately, 
I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS 
(and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.


Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that 
thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?


Thanks



Re: problems with skype

2019-12-21 Thread Thomas Amm
On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 15:31 +, Emanuele Latini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
> please address me somewhere else
> 
> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's
> like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot
> 
> i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
> experiencing this bug
>  
> my distro is debian 10 buster
> 

It might help running 'xinput list' and disable the input device which
assigns the web cam's button as a keyoard (or as slave to an existing
kb). Depending on your usage/hardware there might be another useless
uinput device in the list which causes the repeat keys.

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Re: problems with skype

2019-12-21 Thread Thomas Amm
On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 15:31 +, Emanuele Latini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
> please address me somewhere else
> 
> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's
> like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot
> 
> i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
> experiencing this bug
>  
> my distro is debian 10 buster
> 

It might help running 'xinput list' and disable the input device which
assigns the web cam's button as a keyoard (or as slave to an existing
kb). Depending on your usage/hardware there might be another useless
uinput device in the list which causes the repeat keys.





Re: problems with skype

2019-12-17 Thread deloptes
Emanuele Latini wrote:

> My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's like
> the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
> stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
> reboot

In my opnion skype uses your usb camera correct? and this may glitch with
the usb keyboard you use - especially if it is a cheap one.

I see this from time to time with a cheap KVM switch. If you can try a
better keyboard.





problems with skype

2019-12-17 Thread Emanuele Latini
Hi

I'm not sure that s the right place where to post this problem, if not
please address me somewhere else

My problem is the following During and after skype video call it's like
the keyboad gets crazy, if you push a key once it's like you never
stopped pushing it and every app get stuck. There s only one solution,
reboot

i didn t t find any report on that on the web..like I m the only one
experiencing this bug
 
my distro is debian 10 buster



Apparmor and skype.

2019-02-08 Thread G
Hi!
Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.

Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
Config files and Download, Desktop directory.

This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
allows me to save everywhere i want.

I attach my apparmor profile


Thanks in Advance!!

# Last Modified: Fri Feb  8 16:08:56 2019
#include 

/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr flags=(complain) {
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Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/8/17, deloptes  wrote:
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
>>> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
>>> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
>>> chrome too?
>>
>> I have not tried a video call.
>>
>>> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
>> Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
>> Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
>>
>>> Very nice world!
>>
>> Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
>>
>> Kind regards,
>
> Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
> its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.
>
> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll
> need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.


Final thought first: My apt-cache query wandering while pondering this
thread landed me at "libpurple0". Am posting a resulting "apt-cache
show libpurple0" for listserv posterity because of this snippet that
was part of that query result:

"Conflicts: network-manager (<< 0.9.0)"

I wonder... I wonder if there's something similarly different that
could be found by running that kind of search on whatever package
names you all are using when you run into those moments of
non-functioning.

Now my original (not succinct) post

Another just thinking out loud moment.. Up front, I realize this might
not fulfill the exact feature that's needed, particularly since I'm
not seeing Skype referenced, but am forwarding anyway. Maybe it
provides something that could be adapted, yada-yada

A few weeks ago I tripped over a package called "Finch" while looking
for something else. I literally LOL'ed k/t their name with respect to
the whole pidgin/tweet scenario. From an "apt-cache show finch" query:

++ BEGIN FINCH PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Maintainer: Ari Pollak 

Depends: pidgin-data, pidgin-data, libc6, libgadu3, libglib2.0-0,
libgstreamer1.0-0, libncursesw5, libpurple0, libtinfo5, libxml2
Suggests: libx11-6

Description-en: text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client
 Finch is a text/console-based, modular instant messaging client capable of
 using multiple networks at once. Currently supported are:
 AIM/ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk, Napster, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu,
 Bonjour, Groupwise, Sametime, SIMPLE, MySpaceIM, and MXit.
 .
 Some extra packages are suggested to use increased functionality:
  * libx11-6
- To use the Clipboard and/or Toaster plugins.

Homepage: http://www.pidgin.im

++ END FINCH PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

I'm looking at the "depends" there. That "purple" is familiar as being
something I tried once for what I'm sure was a stand alone program
somehow (or maybe not/never?). I'm now only seeing it as "libpurple0".
Was worth the few extra seconds to keep poking around because of its
"conflicts with" reference:

++ BEGIN LIBPURPLE0 PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Maintainer: Ari Pollak 

Depends: pidgin-data, pidgin-data, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common3,
libavahi-glib1, libc6, libdbus-1-3, libdbus-glib-1-2,
libfarstream-0.2-5, libgadu3, libglib2.0-0,
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0, libgstreamer1.0-0, libidn11,
libmeanwhile1, libnspr4, libnss3, libperl5.24, libsasl2-2, libxml2,
libzephyr4, libzephyr4-krb5, perl-base, , perl-base,
libsasl2-modules
Recommends: ca-certificates, libpurple-bin
Suggests: libtcl8.6

Conflicts: network-manager (<< 0.9.0)

Description-en: multi-protocol instant messaging library
 libpurple is a library intended to be used by programmers seeking
 to write an IM client that connects to many IM networks.
 Currently supported are:
 AIM/ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk, Napster, Zephyr, Gadu-Gadu,
 Bonjour, Groupwise, Sametime, SIMPLE, MySpaceIM, and MXit.
 .
 Some extra packages are suggested to use increased functionality:
  * libtcl8.6, libtk8.6:
- Support for writing plugins with Tcl/Tk

Homepage: http://www.pidgin.im

++ END LIBPURPLE0 PACKAGE DESCRIPTION SNIPPET ++

Original point before I further tripped over libpurple0 was to ask if
anyone has ever tried Finch to see if it somehow fills in where other
packages are not so stable? With Finch appearing to be terminal
command line based, I highlighted it over at the 

Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread deloptes
Daniel Bareiro wrote:

> An update. A few days ago they switched to Beta. Yesterday I tried video
> calls. A person with an Android device called me and I was able to pick
> up the call and talk to her. So it's an important progress.
> 
> Although I saw that the chat area shows the start time of the call, the
> duration of the call is not displayed. I think it would be good to keep
> track of this there as well.

Old version 4.3.0.37-1 is still working. I tried linux - linux and linux -
windows, windows - linux with voice and video

regards



Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi!

On 07/02/17 17:25, Anonymous wrote:

> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
> Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
> many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
> Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
> with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
> market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.
> 
> Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
> Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
> without relying on WebRTC.
> 
> If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
> communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
> has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
> be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
> has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
> adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

An update. A few days ago they switched to Beta. Yesterday I tried video
calls. A person with an Android device called me and I was able to pick
up the call and talk to her. So it's an important progress.

Although I saw that the chat area shows the start time of the call, the
duration of the call is not displayed. I think it would be good to keep
track of this there as well.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread ken

On 02/07/2017 03:25 PM, Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

Having frequent connection drop-outs with Skype on different Linux and 
Android platforms, I switched over to Hangouts, a Google product.  It's 
better, buy still not as good as I'd like.  Now I'm trying to migrate 
over to Signal, a Whisper Systems product, but as with all of them, 
people on both ends need to use the same product and there aren't yet a 
lot of people using Signal.  More info about it at 
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Signal-Private-Messenger 
and https://whispersystems.org/




Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Next Tuesday (Feb 14) is "I Love Free Software day", a good chance to
> tell your favorite developer that yes, you appreciate her/his job and
> to send her/him virtual hugs ♥♥♥
> 
> Go ahead :)

haha, thank you tomas



Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/08/2017 06:03 AM, Daniel Bareiro wrote:


I am currently testing Jitsi Meet [1] with Debian. Here [2] you can see
a server with Jitsi Meet open to the community for test the system.

Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiMeet
[2] https://meet.jit.si


I'm giving this a whirl. Easy enough to install. Ric


--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html



Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, deloptes.

On 08/02/17 03:36, deloptes wrote:

> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.

I am currently testing Jitsi Meet [1] with Debian. Here [2] you can see
a server with Jitsi Meet open to the community for test the system.

Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiMeet
[2] https://meet.jit.si



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Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread tomas
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 07:36:58AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> 
> > On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
> >> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> >>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
> >> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
> >> chrome too?
> > 
> > I have not tried a video call.
> > 
> >> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
> > Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
> > Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
> > 
> >> Very nice world!
> > 
> > Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> 
> Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
> its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.
> 
> If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
> to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
> desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
> recently from the linux side.

Well, there are a couple of projects to cheer for, then. Just examples:

  http://planet.freertc.org/
  https://webrtc.org/

Next Tuesday (Feb 14) is "I Love Free Software day", a good chance to
tell your favorite developer that yes, you appreciate her/his job and
to send her/him virtual hugs ♥♥♥

Go ahead :)

regards
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Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:
>> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.
>> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
>> chrome too?
> 
> I have not tried a video call.
> 
>> I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
> Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
> Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
> 
>> Very nice world!
> 
> Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
> 
> Kind regards,

Thanks ... except that it is not really funny. But well, every culture has
its middle ages  unfortunately no one gets it ATM.

If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need
to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the
desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment
recently from the linux side.

regards



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote:

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
chrome too?


I have not tried a video call.


I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is Apple as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes?item=qt0320035
Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.


Very nice world!


Trevor Noah; all the news you need:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in
chrome too?


And another product buried by M$ ... in fact the biggest one was Nokia
though - IMO ... well done Europe ... well done US ... well done China.
IMO linux as desktop will be just a toy for kids soon ...  and perhaps
developers.

Regarding OS I now have a big choice on the phone market (android various
versions), I have a big choice on the desktop market as well and I have soo
much choice @work - I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is
Apple as well - I never understood how it works and why it exists :D - oh
yes - I forgot, M$ is keeping it alive ... because otherwise they'll break
apart M$.

Very nice world! Thank you all! In the past 17y we've done excellent work!
KDE became unusable, Gnome became ugly ... but most important we are happy,
multi cultural, refugee-welcome, anti-trump, vegetarian, hipster, raspberry
society ... Sooo many useful things we've done in those past years. I
forgot mentioning saving so many too-big-to-fails ... so that investment in
education went down everywhere ... And don't forget more people have access
to food and water today than 20y ago ... because, well, those that didn't
are already dead.

*irony off*

regards





Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 11:49, deloptes wrote:

Very interesting. I log in to skype for web. It says at the top:
"Interested in richer and more integrated experience? Download the official
desktop app. Download"
When I "download" I get debian package "skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb"
installing this creates
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
and skypeforlinux runs with a somewhat newer theme, however sound is not
working for me - I just tried "Skype Test Call". Well it says it's Alpha,
so might be they'll release a working beta until 1. March.
Or it might be finally time to change to something else ... I evaluated
recently Tox...
Very interesting story - thanks
regards


I have not used it but, according to this Slashdot comment, "Skype for 
Linux" is Skype for Web in Chromium:

https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10202241&cid=53802307

Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome.

If the comment above is correct, I do not see the point of "Skype for 
Linux". A software product that contains a web browser so that it can 
connect to a single web site is in my view a deployment anti-pattern 
because it (1) duplicates the installation of software, and (2) defeats 
the purpose of the web (interoperability).


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote:
>> Anonymous wrote:
>>> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
>>> Pulseaudio issue.
>> I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you
>> are talking about.
> 
> I use Skype 4.3.0.37 i386 on unstable. While it still works for Skype
> Out, group calls and chat now require cloud connections and do not work.
> For group calls and chat, I use Skype for Web in Chrome.
> 
> The worst news is that Microsoft are shutting down Skype p2p in three
> weeks (on 1 March). I expect that I will no longer be able to sign in
> with Skype 4.3.0.37. I did not receive any email notifying me of this. I
> only heard about it online:
>
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/02/04/059204/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1
>
http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/03/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1/
>
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/
>
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-life/td-p/4586741
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/skype-for-linux-end-of-life-march
> 
> I am hoping that Skype for Web will meet my needs. The interface seems
> clunkier, is missing some functionality, and chat history is discarded
> after a short time (30 days?). Core functionality seems to work.
> 
> On the up-side, once Skype 4.3.0.37 is gone, I am one Brother printer
> driver away from ditching the entire i386 architecture.
> 
> Kind regards,

Very interesting. I log in to skype for web. It says at the top:
"Interested in richer and more integrated experience? Download the official
desktop app. Download"

When I "download" I get debian package "skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb"

installing this creates

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main

and skypeforlinux runs with a somewhat newer theme, however sound is not
working for me - I just tried "Skype Test Call". Well it says it's Alpha,
so might be they'll release a working beta until 1. March.
Or it might be finally time to change to something else ... I evaluated
recently Tox...

Very interesting story - thanks

regards



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies

On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue.

I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are
talking about.


I use Skype 4.3.0.37 i386 on unstable. While it still works for Skype 
Out, group calls and chat now require cloud connections and do not work. 
For group calls and chat, I use Skype for Web in Chrome.


The worst news is that Microsoft are shutting down Skype p2p in three 
weeks (on 1 March). I expect that I will no longer be able to sign in 
with Skype 4.3.0.37. I did not receive any email notifying me of this. I 
only heard about it online:

https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/02/04/059204/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1
http://venturebeat.com/2017/02/03/microsoft-is-disabling-older-versions-of-skype-for-mac-and-windows-on-march-1/
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/02/03/the-skype-you-love-is-getting-better-download-it-for-free-today/
https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-End-of-life/td-p/4586741
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/skype-for-linux-end-of-life-march

I am hoping that Skype for Web will meet my needs. The interface seems 
clunkier, is missing some functionality, and chat history is discarded 
after a short time (30 days?). Core functionality seems to work.


On the up-side, once Skype 4.3.0.37 is gone, I am one Brother printer 
driver away from ditching the entire i386 architecture.


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Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Joshua M. Boniface

On 2017-02-07 3:25 PM, Anonymous wrote:

Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.

So you're basically asking for a native Skype... that isn't Skype? That 
would be great, except that the application and protocol are completely 
closed-source, so until Microsoft releases the protocol, we're out of 
luck with that. Perhaps contact Microsoft with your concerns about their 
closed-source application, or encourage your colleagues to move to a 
more open system?


- Joshua



Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Anonymous wrote:

> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
> Pulseaudio issue.

I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are
talking about.





Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Anonymous
Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the
Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as
many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from
Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Skype for communications
with colleagues running a non-Linux OS since it is the overwhelming
market leader in VOIP; this is especially common in a business environment.

Skype needs to run on Linux with the same stability that it does on
Windows and MacOS, WITHOUT resorting to installing WINE, and preferably
without relying on WebRTC.

If you could develop a non-Skype Linux client with the ability to easily
communicate on the Skype platform --- something open source but which
has compatibility with Skype, coordinated with Microsoft --- that would
be ideal. But relying on Microsoft to develop good software for Linux
has proven to be a losing proposition and I'm sure is stifling the
adoption of Linux by a wider audience.



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Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread deloptes
Haines Brown wrote:

which version of skype are you using and on what system?

> No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes
> up with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
> crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

if it is grey and crossed while dialing it is ok. when call is established
the other party may enable video and then you see the normal icon

> 
> I notice that besides the crossed out video camera, to the left of the
> interface is the IM symbol. Does this mean that the communication mode
> I'm trying to establish is IM, not video? Under General Options, enabled
> is call rather than chat.

no - it looks like you never used skype, man. the symbol means chat - you
can start chat by pressing it with the person you are talking to.

> 
> I notice now that the contact with whom the problem first came up has a
> little blue video camera icon to the far right in my list of
> contacts. That icon is missing for another contact. What does this icon
> mean?

It means that the person has video camera setup and you can do a video call

Does the people you can not make video call have camera and can make video
call to other people using skype?

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Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 05:45 -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes up
> with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
> crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

Have you enabled the camera in the settings and restarted Skype?

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Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:22:49AM +0200, Kailash Kalyani wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown  wrote:
> 
> I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
> can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
> src: https://wiki.debian.org/skype

I am in video group, lib4l-0 library is installed and I replaced the line
Exec=skype %U with the line 
Exec=LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype %U
in /usr/local/applications/skype.desktop.

No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes up
with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be
crossed out at any time, even before contact is made.

I notice that besides the crossed out video camera, to the left of the
interface is the IM symbol. Does this mean that the communication mode
I'm trying to establish is IM, not video? Under General Options, enabled
is call rather than chat. 

I notice now that the contact with whom the problem first came up has a
little blue video camera icon to the far right in my list of
contacts. That icon is missing for another contact. What does this icon
mean?




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Re: Skype video question

2015-05-31 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown  wrote:

> I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
> can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. My video camera is
> working fine. I installed guvcview and it has no trouble using my
> camera.  When I go to Skype, options, video device, I see that video is
> enabled and I see myself.
>
> But when I try to skype someone, the camera icon on the interface is
> crossed out. And the camera LED does not come on at the beginning. The
> interface proceeds to allow me to leave a voice message.
>
> Have you seen this?
*Question:* Why can't skype use my webcam?
*Answer:* You probably need to preload v4l compatibility.

Try this:

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype
src: https://wiki.debian.org/skype

 HTH,
Kailash

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Skype video question

2015-05-31 Thread Haines Brown
I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they
can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. My video camera is
working fine. I installed guvcview and it has no trouble using my
camera.  When I go to Skype, options, video device, I see that video is
enabled and I see myself.

But when I try to skype someone, the camera icon on the interface is
crossed out. And the camera LED does not come on at the beginning. The
interface proceeds to allow me to leave a voice message.


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Re: skype pauses vlc [solved]

2015-05-14 Thread Paul Seyfert
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> this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string "load-module
> module-role-cork" in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart
> pusleaudio process and also all apps that use pulseaudio (i.e. skype and
> vlc).

Hi Max,

exactly what i was looking for!

Thanks,
Paul
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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Maxim Karpenko
Hi all,

I also had this issue, and till now didn't pay attention to it. Just made
some searching and then tried by myself:
this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string "load-module
module-role-cork" in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart
pusleaudio process and also all apps that use pulseaudio (i.e. skype and
vlc).

Regards,
Max

2015-05-14 20:06 GMT+03:00 Paulo Roberto :

> Hi Paul and Raph,
> In my case there is a behavior not so stable.
> Some times the Skype pause the audio in VLC and it does not resume and
> some times it resumes.
> I'm using the new testing.
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Katz  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>> On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > > since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able
>> to
>> > pause vlc as follows:
>> >
>> > vlc plays music
>> > skype is online
>> > someone writes me a message
>> > vlc pauses and skype makes its "blub"-sound to notify me about the
>> message
>> > vlc stays paused
>>
>> > vlc also gets paused when hitting the "play test sound" button in the
>> > skype configuration.
>> >
>> > Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?
>>
>> Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
>> pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
>> does not get paused.  Hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ralph
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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hi Paul and Raph,
In my case there is a behavior not so stable.
Some times the Skype pause the audio in VLC and it does not resume and some
times it resumes.
I'm using the new testing.


On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Katz  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:
>
> > Hi,
> > > since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
> > pause vlc as follows:
> >
> > vlc plays music
> > skype is online
> > someone writes me a message
> > vlc pauses and skype makes its "blub"-sound to notify me about the
> message
> > vlc stays paused
>
> > vlc also gets paused when hitting the "play test sound" button in the
> > skype configuration.
> >
> > Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?
>
> Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
> pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
> does not get paused.  Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Ralph
>
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Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]:

> Hi,
> > since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
> pause vlc as follows:
> 
> vlc plays music
> skype is online
> someone writes me a message
> vlc pauses and skype makes its "blub"-sound to notify me about the message
> vlc stays paused

> vlc also gets paused when hitting the "play test sound" button in the
> skype configuration.
> 
> Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

Hi Paul -- For me, vlc resumes after skype.  Perhaps tinkering with
pulseaudio can help?  I have not touched any settings.   aplay file.wav
does not get paused.  Hope this helps.

Regards,
Ralph


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skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Paul Seyfert
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Hi,

since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to
pause vlc as follows:

vlc plays music
skype is online
someone writes me a message
vlc pauses and skype makes its "blub"-sound to notify me about the message
vlc stays paused

The same happens for any other audible notification by skype.
While this seems actually quite convenient for incoming calls, this is
particularly annyoing when texting with someone [1].

vlc also gets paused when hitting the "play test sound" button in the
skype configuration.

Any hints how to prevent skype from sending pause signals?

Thanks,
Paul


[1] yes, i /could/ disable sound notifications of skype. i already
disabled those for 'someone in your buddy list came online'. Yet, i
would favour if skype continued making "blub" upon incoming messages and
vlc would just continue playing.
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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker ( fixed)

2015-02-15 Thread German
Here is the fix:



Skype has been known to mess up the mixer settings. So disable the 
automatic configuration of the mixer controls in Skype: right-click with your 
mouse on the Skype icon in the system tray - Options - Sound Devices - remove 
the tick at: Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels. Click Apply. 
Then close Skype (right-click with your mouse on the Skype icon - Quit).

Then use Synaptic Package Manager to install pavucontrol (Pulse Audio 
Volume Controller). Use that application to set up your input device. Most 
built-in mics are mono. The default setting on the Input Control is to lock the 
R&L channel together. By reading the mono mic as stereo, PulseAudio cancels the 
input. Click on the middle button on the upper right of the control panel to 
unlock the R&L channel. Move either the left or right channel to 10 leaving the 
other channel about 90. You should now see the VU meter sensing sound. Now 
start Skype again. The test call should register your voice now.




On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:03:38 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI  wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
> German  wrote:
> 
> > Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
> > from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
> > they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
> > this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread German
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:03:38 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI  wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
> German  wrote:
> 
> > Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
> > from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
> > they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
> > this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.

I've put my output to 153% and got somewhat better, but still very quite. 
Besides, Skype greetings and overall system sounds became very loud. Just for 
the heck of it, I installed Audicity and tried to record my voice. It was loud 
and clear.
So, I think that something to do with Pulsaudio and mic. I also have some 
cranking sounds


>  
> Cheers,
>  
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Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread Ron
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500
German  wrote:

> Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output 
> from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would 
> they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have 
> this opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.

I solved the same problem by setting the output volume in pavucontrol.
 
Cheers,
 
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Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread German
Hi people.

Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output from 
the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would they 
hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have this 
opportunity as fo yet. Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans

> For me https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse works fine with Skype and
> ALSA's plughw devices: "PulseAudio emulation for ALSA".
> 
> -- Mark

I tried this, too, but did not work. Pulseaudio is running once on my (KDE)-
system, but after reboot, it is stopped. I must start pulseaudio manually at 
every reboot. It is a well known issue, but that way, pulseaudio is 
unacceptable for ME.

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Mark Carroll
Hans  writes:

> Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 17:01:18 schrieb David Zelinsky:
(snip)
>> 1. The extracted skype-4.3 binary does run, but the sound does not work
>> since the audio dependencies weren't installed.
>
> Yes, just because you need pulseaudio. As many people got problems with 
> pulseaudio (including myself), I don't want to install pulseaudio. Alsa is 
> working great, so why change?
(snip)

For me https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse works fine with Skype and
ALSA's plughw devices: "PulseAudio emulation for ALSA".

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 17:01:18 schrieb David Zelinsky:
> Hans  writes:
> >> Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
> >> posted in August):
> >> 
> >> - Install the 4.2 package.
> >> - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
> >> - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37"
> >> - save the file
> >> - restart skype and
> >> - voila! It is now connecting to the server again!
> >> 
> >> I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
> >> you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
> >> also found a string "/contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin" and changed
> >> "/contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin", which is what I found in the
> >> 4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:
> >> 
> >> -David
> > 
> > No, this one is no more active. Microsoft reacted some weeks after my
> > hack.
> > But you can do this:
> > 
> > - Extract the skype binary from 4.3
> > - start it once, then connect to skype, but activate "autmatically
> > connection" (so that you do not unconnect from the server)
> > - now start skype-4.2 and you should be automatically reconnected.
> > 
> > 
> > Whenever you get disconnected from skype, you can repeat this procdure.
> 

Great!
> Thanks, that works!
> 
> Just to clarify a couple things, in case others see this and had some of
> the same confusion I did at first:
> 
> 1. The extracted skype-4.3 binary does run, but the sound does not work
> since the audio dependencies weren't installed.
> 

Yes, just because you need pulseaudio. As many people got problems with 
pulseaudio (including myself), I don't want to install pulseaudio. Alsa is 
working great, so why change?

> 2. By "activate automatically connect", you meant to check the box
> labeled "Sign me in when Skype starts" on the login page.

Yes, doing so, you keep the login keys in your home directory. If you 
disconnect, they are deleted and at next connect newly created. But this works 
only with 4.3. When you keep them, skype-4.2 uses them. 

> 
> 
> So now I have skype-4.2 working again!  However, I would still like to
> know how to fix the problem installing libmp3lame0:i386, on which
> skype-4.3 depends (by way of libasound2-plugins:i386).
> 
And pulseaudio! It is not only these two libs. 

> -David

Best

Hans


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Hans  writes:

>> Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
>> posted in August):
>> 
>> - Install the 4.2 package.
>> - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
>> - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37"
>> - save the file
>> - restart skype and
>> - voila! It is now connecting to the server again!
>> 
>> I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
>> you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
>> also found a string "/contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin" and changed
>> "/contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin", which is what I found in the
>> 4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:
>> 
>> -David
>
> No, this one is no more active. Microsoft reacted some weeks after my hack.
> But you can do this:
>
> - Extract the skype binary from 4.3
> - start it once, then connect to skype, but activate "autmatically 
> connection" 
> (so that you do not unconnect from the server)
> - now start skype-4.2 and you should be automatically reconnected.
>
>
> Whenever you get disconnected from skype, you can repeat this procdure.

Thanks, that works!

Just to clarify a couple things, in case others see this and had some of
the same confusion I did at first:

1. The extracted skype-4.3 binary does run, but the sound does not work
since the audio dependencies weren't installed.

2. By "activate automatically connect", you meant to check the box
labeled "Sign me in when Skype starts" on the login page.


So now I have skype-4.2 working again!  However, I would still like to
know how to fix the problem installing libmp3lame0:i386, on which
skype-4.3 depends (by way of libasound2-plugins:i386).

-David


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans

> Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
> posted in August):
> 
> - Install the 4.2 package.
> - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
> - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37"
> - save the file
> - restart skype and
> - voila! It is now connecting to the server again!
> 
> I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
> you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
> also found a string "/contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin" and changed
> "/contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin", which is what I found in the
> 4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:
> 
> -David

No, this one is no more active. Microsoft reacted some weeks after my hack.
But you can do this:

- Extract the skype binary from 4.3
- start it once, then connect to skype, but activate "autmatically connection" 
(so that you do not unconnect from the server)
- now start skype-4.2 and you should be automatically reconnected.


Whenever you get disconnected from skype, you can repeat this procdure.

Have fun!

Hans



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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Mark Carroll
David Zelinsky  writes:

> Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
> install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
> a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
> versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
> I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
> get Skype to work?

There's probably a much better way to solve this with multi-arch, but I
took the easy route of installing Skype inside a 32-bit chroot (with the
help of schroot) and that is working just fine.

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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Hans  writes:

> Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 12:18:16 schrieb David Zelinsky:
>> Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
>> install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
>> a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
>> versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
>> I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
>> get Skype to work?
>>
>
> Before you upgrade to skype-4.3, please note, it needs pulseaudio! If you do 
> not want to install pulseaudio, then use my workaround, I described here in 
> this forum. 

Thanks for the suggestion.  Assuming you mean this workaround (which you
posted in August):

- Install the 4.2 package.
- start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype
- search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37"
- save the file
- restart skype and 
- voila! It is now connecting to the server again!

I tried this, but Skype would still not connect.  Does it still work for
you?  Maybe they've got wise to this and now check something else?  I
also found a string "/contentbundle/linux-4.2.0.0-2374.bin" and changed
"/contentbundle/linux-4.3.0.0-3390.bin", which is what I found in the
4.3 binary.  Still doesn't connect (:

-David


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Re: can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2015, 12:18:16 schrieb David Zelinsky:
> Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
> install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
> a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
> versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
> I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
> get Skype to work?
>

Before you upgrade to skype-4.3, please note, it needs pulseaudio! If you do 
not want to install pulseaudio, then use my workaround, I described here in 
this forum. 

Good luck!

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can't install skype 4.3 on jessie

2015-01-11 Thread David Zelinsky
Since Skype 4.2 stopped working, I've been trying unsuccessfully to
install 4.3 on my amd64 laptop running jessie.  The problem seems to be
a dependency on libmp3lame0:i386, which has some issue with conflicting
versions numbers between the :amd64 and :i386 architectures.  But maybe
I'm not understanding something.  Anyway, how can I get around this and
get Skype to work?

I have multiarch support enabled:

| % dpkg --print-architecture
| amd64
| % dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
| i386

And here's what happens:

| % gdebi skype-debian_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb
[...]
| This package is uninstallable
| Cannot install 'libasound2-plugins:i386'

So I tried this:

| % apt install libasound2-plugins:i386
[...]
| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
|  libasound2-plugins:i386 : Depends: libavcodec56:i386 (>= 6:11~beta1) but it 
is not going to be installed or
| libavcodec-extra-56:i386 (>= 6:11~beta1) 
but it is not going to be installed
| E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Both of these libavcodec packages depend on libmp3lame0:i386 which apt
says "is not going to be installed".  And here's what I get when I try
to install it:

| % apt install libmp3lame0:i386
[...]
| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
|  libmp3lame0 : Breaks: libmp3lame0:i386 (!= 1:3.99.5-dmo1) but 
3.99.5+repack1-5 is to be installed
|  libmp3lame0:i386 : Breaks: libmp3lame0 (!= 3.99.5+repack1-5) but 
1:3.99.5-dmo1 is to be installed
|  pulseaudio : Depends: libasound2-plugins but it is not going to be installed
| E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by 
held packages.

Maybe it would work if I first removed libmp3lame0, but quite a few
important packages depend on it, so I can't do that.

What should I do??

Thanks for any help.

-David


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Re: WebRTC - was Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, Bret Busby  wrote:
> On 08/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Andreas Weber 
>> wrote:
>>> On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>>>> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
>>>>>> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand what you mean here. As per
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC , WebRTC is just an API. What is
>>>> the equivalent of Skype that uses WebRTC?
>>>
>>> Firefox 34 has built-in video calls. It's called "Hello". Enabling is
>>> nicely described here if you don't see the icon:
>>>
>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info and the link. It is helpful.
>>
>> However, my iceweasel version is 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 and Jessie
>> currently has 31.2.0esr-3. I see that Iceweasel 34 is only in
>> experimental. I will try your work around when it hits testing.
>>
>> raju
>
> From what I understand, from what I have found so far, the WebRTC
> thing appears to be implemented as a useable medium, in each of Google
> Chrome, Mozilla Firefox (v34) and Opera for Android (but, from what I
> have found so far, the facility in Opera, is available for only
> Android cellphones, and, not for desktop or "laptop" / "notebook"
> computers, as I have tried without success, to find how to implement
> it in Opera v26, running on a "laptop" / "notebook" computer.
>
> I think that this Web RTC thing, is something that requires further
> investigation (and, trying to find other people with whom to
> experiment in terms of trying to connect using the medium, like I did
> with Ekiga and Linphone, before I gave up on them as being unworkable)
>
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>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> 
>

Where I refer to Debian 7, below, it is the amd64 version.

The iceweasel that I have installed on Debian 7, apparently does not
include, in the about:config, the variable "loop.throttled" (see
http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34 )
 and so, appears to be not compatible with WebRTC.

In the version of SeaMonkey, that I have installed on Debian 7, the
same applies (I thought that I should try to do it in SeaMonkey, in
case that would work).

I can not find how to enable WebRTC in Opera, for either Debian Linux,
or for MS Windows 8.x.

I have, however, apparently managed, by following the instructions at
http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34
 to get WebRTC enabled in the version of Firefox, that is installed on
a MS Windows 8.1 system.

Thus, it appears (to me) that WebRTC is available for MS Windows 8.1,
via Firefox, but, not for Debian Linux 7 amd64.

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WebRTC - wasRe: no microphone in skype

2014-12-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Andreas Weber 
> wrote:
>> On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>>> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
>>>>> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
>>>
>>> I do not understand what you mean here. As per
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC , WebRTC is just an API. What is
>>> the equivalent of Skype that uses WebRTC?
>>
>> Firefox 34 has built-in video calls. It's called "Hello". Enabling is
>> nicely described here if you don't see the icon:
>>
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34
>>
>
> Thanks for the info and the link. It is helpful.
>
> However, my iceweasel version is 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 and Jessie
> currently has 31.2.0esr-3. I see that Iceweasel 34 is only in
> experimental. I will try your work around when it hits testing.
>
> raju

>From what I understand, from what I have found so far, the WebRTC
thing appears to be implemented as a useable medium, in each of Google
Chrome, Mozilla Firefox (v34) and Opera for Android (but, from what I
have found so far, the facility in Opera, is available for only
Android cellphones, and, not for desktop or "laptop" / "notebook"
computers, as I have tried without success, to find how to implement
it in Opera v26, running on a "laptop" / "notebook" computer.

I think that this Web RTC thing, is something that requires further
investigation (and, trying to find other people with whom to
experiment in terms of trying to connect using the medium, like I did
with Ekiga and Linphone, before I gave up on them as being unworkable)

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 you'll know what the answer means."
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 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 07 dec 14, 13:08:03, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 12/07/2014 05:06 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >On Sb, 06 dec 14, 23:57:00, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> >>
> >>Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the
> >>following pulseaudio version?
> >>
> >>rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version
> >>pulseaudio 5.0
> >
> >Works here. I'm on Sid, but due to the freeze most package versions are
> >the same as Jessie. pulseaudio is currently purged because I found no
> >way to turn the (laptop internal) microphone OFF!
> 
> pavucontrol couldn't handle that?? Yeow. Ric

No, I set volumes to minimum and muted *all* microphone inputs 
(internal, external and dock, although the other ones weren't even 
connected), but I could still hear input from the internal microphone in 
the speakers (e.g. tapping on the laptop case) :(

I'm guessing some bad interaction with the alsa driver, but currently I 
have no incentive to investigate this as the only person who was 
video-calling me can (also) use Google Hangouts, which works with plain 
alsa.

Kind regards,
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Andreas Weber  wrote:
> On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber  
>> wrote:
>>> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
>>>> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
>>
>> I do not understand what you mean here. As per
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC , WebRTC is just an API. What is
>> the equivalent of Skype that uses WebRTC?
>
> Firefox 34 has built-in video calls. It's called "Hello". Enabling is
> nicely described here if you don't see the icon:
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34
>

Thanks for the info and the link. It is helpful.

However, my iceweasel version is 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1 and Jessie
currently has 31.2.0esr-3. I see that Iceweasel 34 is only in
experimental. I will try your work around when it hits testing.

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Man_Without_Clue  wrote:
>
>
> I am using Skype 4.3 on Wheezy 64 bit without problem now.
>
> I had exact same problem as yours with microphone audio before.
> What I did was to reset the microphone while Skype was testing the audio.
>
> During the audio test, disable the microphone and re-enable it.
>
> I found this method in Ubuntu forum and it worked.
>

I tried this but it did not help. It could be because I am using
Jessie and your work around is specific to software in Wheezy.

raju


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Bret Busby  wrote:
>
> Given that Micrishite took o0ver skype, to sabotage it, and, then,
> went out of its way to sabotage skype, have you indicated whether your
> microphone works with any other application on Debian?
>

Yes. The microphone works with google voice chat, google hangouts. The
problem is specific to skype. I should have mentioned this in my
original email. Sorry.

raju


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Leonardo
Dne So 6. prosince 2014 05:13:45 kamaraju kusumanchi napsal(a):
> Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?
> 
> When I do
> Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call
> 
> I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.
> 
> In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
> 1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
> 2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono
> 
> When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
> section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
> Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
> working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.
> 
> I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
> using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
> right)
> 
> In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
> QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?
> 
> rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
> ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound
> server ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
> for PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
> tools for the PulseAudio sound server
> ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
> are, wherever they are
> 
> If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration
> details?
> 
> thanks
> raju
Try write the line "options snd-hda-intel model=generic" in 
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and restart PC.


Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Sunday 07 December 2014 18:23:35 Andreas Weber wrote:
>> On 2014-12-07 06:02, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>> > Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
>> > thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
>> > Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
>> > another OS flamewar.
>>
>> I was simply trying to give you an alternative. Because I am somewhat
>> tired of all these Skype threads that pop-up every 4 weeks or so if
>> somebody can't manage to get his HW running or Skype breaks things or
>> you have to tweak the version in a hex editor so it works or ... should
>> I continue? I said "Skype" (the product) is the problem, I never spoke
>> about any OS.
>>
>> Read carefully please and sorry for trying to help.
>
> Sorry, Andreas, but it is you who are not reading carefully.  The reply you
>
> quote above was to Renaud  OLGIATI not to you.  And he had said:
>
> 
> And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes
> with
> the Windows virus...
> 
>
> My reaction was the same as Ragu's:  please, not another flame war.
>
> Lisi
>

I think that the problem perhaps is not so much a problem relating to
operating systems, as a problem with the mailicious corporation that
tookover skype in order to cause problems with skype, thence to hinder
electronic communications.

Skype as it used to be, worked.

Skype as it  exists now, is simply Microshite, with its objective of sabotage.

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ron
On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 18:45:04 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> Sorry, Andreas, but it is you who are not reading carefully.  The reply you 
> quote above was to Renaud  OLGIATI not to you.  And he had said:
> 
> 
> And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes with 
> the Windows virus...
> 
> 
> My reaction was the same as Ragu's:  please, not another flame war.

Grovelling apologies; was not trying to start an OS war, but to explain why I 
was using Skype in spite of its shortcomings.
 
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 07 December 2014 18:23:35 Andreas Weber wrote:
> On 2014-12-07 06:02, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> > Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
> > thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
> > Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
> > another OS flamewar.
>
> I was simply trying to give you an alternative. Because I am somewhat
> tired of all these Skype threads that pop-up every 4 weeks or so if
> somebody can't manage to get his HW running or Skype breaks things or
> you have to tweak the version in a hex editor so it works or ... should
> I continue? I said "Skype" (the product) is the problem, I never spoke
> about any OS.
>
> Read carefully please and sorry for trying to help.

Sorry, Andreas, but it is you who are not reading carefully.  The reply you 
quote above was to Renaud  OLGIATI not to you.  And he had said:


And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes with 
the Windows virus...


My reaction was the same as Ragu's:  please, not another flame war.

Lisi


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2014-12-07 06:02, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
> thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
> Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
> another OS flamewar.

I was simply trying to give you an alternative. Because I am somewhat
tired of all these Skype threads that pop-up every 4 weeks or so if
somebody can't manage to get his HW running or Skype breaks things or
you have to tweak the version in a hex editor so it works or ... should
I continue? I said "Skype" (the product) is the problem, I never spoke
about any OS.

Read carefully please and sorry for trying to help.


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber  
> wrote:
>> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>>> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
>>> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
> 
> I do not understand what you mean here. As per
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC , WebRTC is just an API. What is
> the equivalent of Skype that uses WebRTC?

Firefox 34 has built-in video calls. It's called "Hello". Enabling is
nicely described here if you don't see the icon:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/556102/no-hello-icon-in-firefox-34

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ric Moore

On 12/07/2014 05:06 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Sb, 06 dec 14, 23:57:00, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:


Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the
following pulseaudio version?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version
pulseaudio 5.0


Works here. I'm on Sid, but due to the freeze most package versions are
the same as Jessie. pulseaudio is currently purged because I found no
way to turn the (laptop internal) microphone OFF!


pavucontrol couldn't handle that?? Yeow. Ric



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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 06 dec 14, 23:57:00, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> 
> Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the
> following pulseaudio version?
> 
> rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version
> pulseaudio 5.0

Works here. I'm on Sid, but due to the freeze most package versions are 
the same as Jessie. pulseaudio is currently purged because I found no 
way to turn the (laptop internal) microphone OFF!

Kind regards,
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-07 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 6. Dezember 2014, 16:46:29 schrieb kamaraju kusumanchi:
> 
> Do you have a working version of Skype? If so, can you give me the
> exact versions of skype, pulseaudio you are using? How is your
> microphone connected (USB?)? What model of microphone do you have that
> is working with Skype? How did you configure the sound devices? Did
> you have to make any changes in the "Open PulseAudio Volume Control"
> box or it did it work out of the box

Yes, they are working both. But I am using alsa, as pulseaudio is not starting 
properly after a reboot. A hardware problem here with kde.


> There are so many variables here and just saying "it should work" is
> not helping.
> 
As I said, I got both running, the latest one with pulseaudio and the prior 
one with alsa (with my workaround).

> > To get the old skype (version 4.2)
> > running, which can be used with alsa, use the workaround, I found out:
> > 
> > 1. Install latest skype.
> > 2. Enter username ans password, and, very important, activate autologin.
> > This way you get automatically connected, whenever you start skype.
> > 3. Deinstall latest skype, and reinstall skype version 4.2.
> > 4. Now you can start skype-4.2, and get connected.
> > 5. Do never logout!
> > 6. Hint: I extracted the skype binary from the latest package and put it
> > into my ~/home folder. If I got accoidently logged out, I just start
> > ./skype from my ~/home, log in and kill this skype process. Then relogin
> > with the 4.2- version.
> 
> This does not make sense at all. Why is installing and removing Skype
> 4.3.0.37 necessary before installing 4.2? Why is it necessary to
> activate autologin.
It makes sense, as I just need the latest one to create the keys for the 
connection, but need the prior one for using it with alsa.

> 
> Can you please give me the output of the following command on your machine?
> 
> $ dpkg -l \*skype\* \*pulseaudio\* \*alsa\* | grep ^ii
>

Sorry, as I said, I do not use pulseaudio, but alsa.

Best 

Hans


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Man_Without_Clue


On 12/07/2014 03:04 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 07/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Renaud  OLGIATI
 wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:31:14 -0500
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:


Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.

I use Skype mostly for video calls. For some reason, the quality from
skype is way better than Google Hangouts. If it is not Microsoft code,
you will be using Google's code. Both of them are proprietary. So I do
not see what the big gain is here.

And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes
with the Windows virus...


Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
another OS flamewar.

raju


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Given that Micrishite took o0ver skype, to sabotage it, and, then,
went out of its way to sabotage skype, have you indicated whether your
microphone works with any other application on Debian?

If your microphone does work with other applications on Debian, then
iot may be that it is just part of the Microshite sabotage, that your
microphone does not work with skype.

If your microphone does not work with other applications on Debian,
then that may be where the problem lies; an incompatible microphone.

Before Microshite sabotaged skype, with using (successfully, before
the sabotage) skype 2.2, running on Debian 6, I was successfully using
a headset that included a microphone, which headset does not use USB,
but instead, I think, RCA sockets and plugs (one for the microphone,
and one for the sound out).



I am using Skype 4.3 on Wheezy 64 bit without problem now.

I had exact same problem as yours with microphone audio before.
What I did was to reset the microphone while Skype was testing the audio.

During the audio test, disable the microphone and re-enable it.

I found this method in Ubuntu forum and it worked.



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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Bret Busby
On 07/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Renaud  OLGIATI
>  wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:31:14 -0500
>> kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
>>
>>> > Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
>>> > Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.
>>
>>> I use Skype mostly for video calls. For some reason, the quality from
>>> skype is way better than Google Hangouts. If it is not Microsoft code,
>>> you will be using Google's code. Both of them are proprietary. So I do
>>> not see what the big gain is here.
>>
>> And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes
>> with the Windows virus...
>>
>
> Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
> thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
> Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
> another OS flamewar.
>
> raju
>
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Given that Micrishite took o0ver skype, to sabotage it, and, then,
went out of its way to sabotage skype, have you indicated whether your
microphone works with any other application on Debian?

If your microphone does work with other applications on Debian, then
iot may be that it is just part of the Microshite sabotage, that your
microphone does not work with skype.

If your microphone does not work with other applications on Debian,
then that may be where the problem lies; an incompatible microphone.

Before Microshite sabotaged skype, with using (successfully, before
the sabotage) skype 2.2, running on Debian 6, I was successfully using
a headset that included a microphone, which headset does not use USB,
but instead, I think, RCA sockets and plugs (one for the microphone,
and one for the sound out).

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Renaud  OLGIATI
 wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:31:14 -0500
> kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
>
>> > Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
>> > Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.
>
>> I use Skype mostly for video calls. For some reason, the quality from
>> skype is way better than Google Hangouts. If it is not Microsoft code,
>> you will be using Google's code. Both of them are proprietary. So I do
>> not see what the big gain is here.
>
> And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes with 
> the Windows virus...
>

Sure, that might as well be the case! But it is not the topic of this
thread. My intention is to get a working version of Skype on this
Debian machine. I do not want this thread to become a platform for
another OS flamewar.

raju


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ralph Katz  wrote:
>
> While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype
> works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop:
>> ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
>> ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd640.10.31-3+nmu1 
>> amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
>> ii  pulseaudio2.0-6.1
>> amd64PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6.1
>> amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  pulseaudio-utils  2.0-6.1
>> amd64    Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  skype 4.3.0.37-1 
>> i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are
>

I tried downgrading pulseaudio from Jessie's 5.0-13 to Wheezy's
2.0-6.1 . But apt-get wants to remove almost all of the KDE (over 256
packages) to achieve that. So I decided not to do this.

Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the
following pulseaudio version?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version
pulseaudio 5.0


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 12/06/2014 05:04 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> Couple of questions:
> 1) What type of microphone are you using? Are you using a USB
> connection? In my case, I am using Logitech web camera that is
> connected via USB. The web camera provides both audio and video
> functionalities.

Mine works with built-in laptop mic, and it also works with inexpensive
old headset (Manhattan brand) that plugs in with mini-plugs. No webcam.

> 2) When you run pavucontrol -> Input Devices , how many input devices
> do you see? What are they?

Internal microphone, microphone, line in.

> 3) In the Configuration tab, how many devices are listed for you? What are 
> they?

Built-in Audio
Profile: Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo Output, Analog Stereo
Input, Off

These don't change when the headset is plugged in.

> 4) Is there a conflict between alsa and skype 4.3.0.37-1? Do you have
> any alsa packages installed on your machine?

Don't see a conflict; aplay filename.wav plays fine as do mplayer, etc.
Alsa packages installed, pasting to fit width:
> ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l \*alsa\* | grep ^ii
> ii  alsa-base 1.0.25+3~deb7u1
> all  ALSA driver configuration files
> ii  alsa-utils1.0.25-4   
> amd64Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
> ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:amd64  0.10.36-1.1
> amd64GStreamer plugin for ALSA

You could poke around the skype linux forum too for ideas:
http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/bd-p/Linux

You've  probably already searched the list archives here...
That's all I've got.  Glad to answer any other questions.

Ralph


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Mark Carroll
Ralph Katz  writes:

> On 12/05/2014 11:13 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
(snip)
>> If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?
(snip)
> While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype
> works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop:

Me too, both XFCE and ctwm, on a 64-bit system with Skype living in a
32-bit chroot (under schroot).

(snip)
> In skype options, sound devices, Allow skype to adjust mixer levels is
> checked.
(snip)

I always uncheck this, actually, Skype always seems to do a bad job of
messing with them. (I think Google Hangouts might sometimes do that too,
but if so I haven't worked out how to stop it.)

Having ALSA working well for me and not wanting pulseaudio, I actually
use Skype 4.3 with https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse and it works just
fine.

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Ric Moore

On 12/06/2014 05:04 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ralph Katz  wrote:


While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype
works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop:

ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd640.10.31-3+nmu1 
amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
ii  pulseaudio2.0-6.1
amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6.1
amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils  2.0-6.1
amd64Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  skype 4.3.0.37-1 
i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are




Thanks, Ralph. This is helpful. It gives me a data point to tracedown
why skype is not working.

Couple of questions:
1) What type of microphone are you using? Are you using a USB
connection? In my case, I am using Logitech web camera that is
connected via USB. The web camera provides both audio and video
functionalities.

2) When you run pavucontrol -> Input Devices , how many input devices
do you see? What are they?

3) In the Configuration tab, how many devices are listed for you? What are they?

4) Is there a conflict between alsa and skype 4.3.0.37-1? Do you have
any alsa packages installed on your machine?


In skype options, sound devices, Allow skype to adjust mixer levels is
checked.


I have this checked. But that does not seem to be sufficient.



Perhaps some ideas from here may help you:
https://wiki.debian.org/skype


I checked that wiki before posting my question. It did not have
anything that could help my current situation.
I'm suspecting alsa. Something must be muted. Sure your microphone isn't 
physically muted via the manual switch on a USB cable if you have one?? 
Heh, had that happen more than once and lost a patch of hair over it. :) Ric




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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Ron
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:46:29 -0500
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

> Do you have a working version of Skype? If so, can you give me the
> exact versions of skype, pulseaudio you are using? How is your
> microphone connected (USB?)? What model of microphone do you have that
> is working with Skype? How did you configure the sound devices? Did
> you have to make any changes in the "Open PulseAudio Volume Control"
> box or it did it work out of the box.

$ pulseaudio --version
pulseaudio 2.0

Skype 4.3.0.37

I have used both USB and rear-socket (on MB) microphones, just configures in 
pavucontrol input which microphone I want; make sure it is not muted out.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Ron
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:31:14 -0500
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

> > Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
> > Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.

> I use Skype mostly for video calls. For some reason, the quality from
> skype is way better than Google Hangouts. If it is not Microsoft code,
> you will be using Google's code. Both of them are proprietary. So I do
> not see what the big gain is here.

And anyway the computers of most of my Skype correspondents are infectes with 
the Windows virus...
 
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ralph Katz  wrote:
>
> While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype
> works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop:
>> ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
>> ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd640.10.31-3+nmu1 
>> amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
>> ii  pulseaudio2.0-6.1
>> amd64PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6.1
>> amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  pulseaudio-utils  2.0-6.1
>> amd64    Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  skype 4.3.0.37-1 
>> i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are
>

Thanks, Ralph. This is helpful. It gives me a data point to tracedown
why skype is not working.

Couple of questions:
1) What type of microphone are you using? Are you using a USB
connection? In my case, I am using Logitech web camera that is
connected via USB. The web camera provides both audio and video
functionalities.

2) When you run pavucontrol -> Input Devices , how many input devices
do you see? What are they?

3) In the Configuration tab, how many devices are listed for you? What are they?

4) Is there a conflict between alsa and skype 4.3.0.37-1? Do you have
any alsa packages installed on your machine?

> In skype options, sound devices, Allow skype to adjust mixer levels is
> checked.

I have this checked. But that does not seem to be sufficient.

>
> Perhaps some ideas from here may help you:
> https://wiki.debian.org/skype

I checked that wiki before posting my question. It did not have
anything that could help my current situation.

thanks
raju


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Hans  wrote:
> Am Samstag, 6. Dezember 2014, 18:34:55 schrieb Andreas Weber:
>
> Latest Skype should work with pulseaudio.

Do you have a working version of Skype? If so, can you give me the
exact versions of skype, pulseaudio you are using? How is your
microphone connected (USB?)? What model of microphone do you have that
is working with Skype? How did you configure the sound devices? Did
you have to make any changes in the "Open PulseAudio Volume Control"
box or it did it work out of the box.

There are so many variables here and just saying "it should work" is
not helping.

> To get the old skype (version 4.2)
> running, which can be used with alsa, use the workaround, I found out:
>
> 1. Install latest skype.
> 2. Enter username ans password, and, very important, activate autologin. This
> way you get automatically connected, whenever you start skype.
> 3. Deinstall latest skype, and reinstall skype version 4.2.
> 4. Now you can start skype-4.2, and get connected.
> 5. Do never logout!
> 6. Hint: I extracted the skype binary from the latest package and put it into
> my ~/home folder. If I got accoidently logged out, I just start ./skype from
> my ~/home, log in and kill this skype process. Then relogin with the 4.2-
> version.

This does not make sense at all. Why is installing and removing Skype
4.3.0.37 necessary before installing 4.2? Why is it necessary to
activate autologin.

Can you please give me the output of the following command on your machine?

$ dpkg -l \*skype\* \*pulseaudio\* \*alsa\* | grep ^ii

In my case, I have

ii  alsa-base  1.0.25+3 all  ALSA driver
configuration files
ii  alsa-utils 1.0.27.2-1   amd64Utilities for
configuring and using ALSA
ii  libsox-fmt-alsa:amd64  14.4.1-4 amd64SoX alsa
format I/O library
ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber  wrote:
> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
>> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
>
> Skype _is_ the problem. Try out Iceweasel/Firefox 34 and its built-in
> WebRTC - it works perfectly. At the moment you don't even need a login.
>

I do not understand what you mean here. As per
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC , WebRTC is just an API. What is
the equivalent of Skype that uses WebRTC?

> Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
> Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.
>

I use Skype mostly for video calls. For some reason, the quality from
skype is way better than Google Hangouts. If it is not Microsoft code,
you will be using Google's code. Both of them are proprietary. So I do
not see what the big gain is here.

raju


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 12/05/2014 11:13 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?
> 
> When I do
> Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call
> 
> I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.
> 
> In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
> 1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
> 2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono
> 
> When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
> section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
> Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
> working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.
> 
> I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
> using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
> right)
> 
> In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
> QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?
> 
> rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
> ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound 
> server
> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
> for PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
> tools for the PulseAudio sound server
> ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
> are, wherever they are
> 
> If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?
> 
> thanks
> raju
> 

While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype
works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop:
> ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
> ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd640.10.31-3+nmu1 
> amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
> ii  pulseaudio2.0-6.1
> amd64PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6.1    
> amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-utils  2.0-6.1    
> amd64Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
> ii  skype 4.3.0.37-1     
> i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are

In skype options, sound devices, Allow skype to adjust mixer levels is
checked.

Perhaps some ideas from here may help you:
https://wiki.debian.org/skype

Good luck,
Ralph

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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 6. Dezember 2014, 18:34:55 schrieb Andreas Weber:

Latest Skype should work with pulseaudio. To get the old skype (version 4.2) 
running, which can be used with alsa, use the workaround, I found out:

1. Install latest skype.
2. Enter username ans password, and, very important, activate autologin. This 
way you get automatically connected, whenever you start skype.
3. Deinstall latest skype, and reinstall skype version 4.2.
4. Now you can start skype-4.2, and get connected.
5. Do never logout! 
6. Hint: I extracted the skype binary from the latest package and put it into 
my ~/home folder. If I got accoidently logged out, I just start ./skype from 
my ~/home, log in and kill this skype process. Then relogin with the 4.2-
version.

But at all: Skype is a pita, and pay attention to their new rules starting at 
january 2015! Look for an alternative.

Best 
Hans




> On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
> > The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
> > code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.
> 
> Skype _is_ the problem. Try out Iceweasel/Firefox 34 and its built-in
> WebRTC - it works perfectly. At the moment you don't even need a login.
> 
> Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
> Microsoft coden on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.
> 
> HTH, ändu


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale wrote:
> The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source
> code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.

Skype _is_ the problem. Try out Iceweasel/Firefox 34 and its built-in
WebRTC - it works perfectly. At the moment you don't even need a login.

Or simply use Hangouts. There's no need anymore for sticking with
Microsoft code on Linux if you want video calls and destop sharing.

HTH, ändu


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Ric Moore  wrote:
> On 12/05/2014 11:13 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>
>> Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?
>>
>> When I do
>> Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call
>>
>> I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.
>>
>> In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
>> 1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
>> 2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono
>>
>> When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
>> section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
>> Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
>> working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.
>>
>> I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
>> using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
>> right)
>>
>> In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
>> QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?
>>
>> rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
>> ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound
>> server
>> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
>> for PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
>> tools for the PulseAudio sound server
>> ii  skype      4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
>> are, wherever they are
>>
>> If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration
>> details?
>
>
>
> Do you have pavucontrol installed?? That should certainly help. Ric
>

Yes, of course. When I do Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Open
PulseAudio Volume Control, the window that actually pops up is
pavucontrol. As indicated in the first email, this is what I was using
to fiddle with the input devices and the configuration.

rajulocal@hogwarts:~/x$ readlink -f `which pavucontrol`
/usr/bin/pavucontrol
rajulocal@hogwarts:~/x$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/pavucontrol
pavucontrol: /usr/bin/pavucontrol
rajulocal@hogwarts:~/x$ dpkg -l pavucontrol | grep ^ii
ii  pavucontrol2.0-1amd64PulseAudio Volume Control


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Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-05 Thread Gary Dale

On 05/12/14 11:13 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?

When I do
Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call

I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.

In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono

When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.

I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
right)

In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
are, wherever they are

If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?

thanks
raju
This is a never-ending problem with Skype. The best way is to have at 
least two microphones (one using a microphone-in port and one using 
usb). One or both of them may work at any given time. Also, try all the 
different sound inputs that Skype shows. One or another may or may not 
work. Don't expect any consistency.


The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source 
code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.



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no microphone in skype

2014-12-05 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?

When I do
Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call

I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.

In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono

When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.

I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
right)

In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
are, wherever they are

If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?

thanks
raju
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Unable to login with skype (was Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-21 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:51:25PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 09:04:41AM +0200, Hans wrote:
> > 
> > > I had already tried one method of doing that - using  the suggested
> > > method which involved using sed - which was offered as an alternative
> > > to using a hexeditor (which option scared me), and the option using
> > > sed, did not work, and I had posted the errors that arose from tring
> > > to use the sed method.
> > 
> > Using a hexeditor is just as easy as using any text editor. Did you try it 
> > at 
> > all?
> 
> I successfully edited mine with vim :-) 

Now on login (after a forced logout initiated by the Skype
host) the client give me the "Skype can't connect" message.

skype -v
Skype 4.3.0.37

I'm running sid.

Anyone able to log in?

Joel
 
> > Hans
> > 
> > 
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Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
So, I checked out the following;

The only things you need in ~/home/user/.Skype are the subfolder  
named as the skype-username and the "config.xml".

To make it easy for your dad, you can create these files on your computer and 
send him both (login into skype with your dad's passwort and username will 
create config.xml and the folder) 

I guess, you have installed the linux for him or someone in his near. 

He has just to put both files into the .Skype folder and change owner to him. A 
script, executed as root, can do this easily. 

Then he only needs to start skype and is getting connected. However, he MUST 
NOT disconnect, just kill the app. I hope, I do not expect too much, that he 
will take this to the heart.

Hope this helps.

Hans


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Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 21:22:41 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Maybe I can talk a Windows user into installing a client and try chatting 
> with 
> her :)

My skype display says it has 60M+ users on line. In 10 years time that
may change and there may be another killer communications application.
For the moment skype has captured the attention of many users.

Fundamentally I subscribe to the idea that communication should be
conducted in an application and network neutral manner. You might be
able to persuade your dad to use ekiga, but try to persuade a nine year
old grandchild. :)


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Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans

> That is no instruction I can give to my father. And you need a Skype 4.3
> binary then as well?
> 
> I actually don´t care that much. I don´t use Skype regularily. But my father
> does. And these kind of instructions are fundamentally incompatible with
> him
> :). Skype could be something to bring him back to Windows. Maybe thats the
> 
> hidden agenda of Microsoft. Make the new versions of Skype for Linux require
> more and more stuff… and require new versions… so people with to Linux.
> Anyway… this may be far fetched…
> 
> Lets hope Skype 4.3 with PulseAudio will work for him, until an alternative
> like tox.im is ready. Maybe it is already, lets see what further testing
> reveals.
> 
> Ciao,
If.

If you are willing to spend some time, here what can be done.

If your father is using windows, then he just has to update skype. There is a 
button for it, when he has started skype. I think, it is within the "help" 
drop-down menu.

If he is using linux, then you might help him by connecting to his computer 
via internet using the -X option of ssh (i.e. ssh -X hisusername 
123.123.123.123).

If you have also root access, you can upload the binary to his computer or 
download it to his computer by using a text webbrowser for example lynx.

If the binary of the 4.3 version is in his home, delete .Skype, then login 
using the -X option of ssh with his account (ssh -X fathersusername 
123.123.123.123). Doing so, you can start graphical things, just as if you are 
sitting at his desktop. 

Now skype should be started and you can login with his account and password 
plus autlogin activated. Then just kill skype. 

Next time, your father can use skype as usual. 


If this does not work, you can of course install 4.3 package, but it can be, 
that after next boot pulseaudio does not correct initialise the soundcard and 
you have no sound at all! Your choice.

Good luck!

Hans
You might


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Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:13:43 schrieb Hans:
> > Hmmm, I see.
> > 
> > I just started the application with auto login and that did still work.
> > 
> > But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again.
> > 
> > There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype.
> 
> Yes, but you can relogin using my workaround. If you are logged in again,
> and did as I adviced, backup the folder with your skype accountname and the
> file config.xml.
> 
> Thwe "config.xml" houses your connection data and I think,. some keys. If
> you delete ~/home/user/.Skype accidently, just restart skype, close it, and
> copy this into the newly created folder ~/home/user/.Skype.
> 
> If you start skype then again, you will again reconnected to the skype
> server.
> 
> Good luck!

That is no instruction I can give to my father. And you need a Skype 4.3 
binary then as well?

I actually don´t care that much. I don´t use Skype regularily. But my father 
does. And these kind of instructions are fundamentally incompatible with him 
:). Skype could be something to bring him back to Windows. Maybe thats the 
hidden agenda of Microsoft. Make the new versions of Skype for Linux require 
more and more stuff… and require new versions… so people with to Linux. Anyway… 
this may be far fetched…

Lets hope Skype 4.3 with PulseAudio will work for him, until an alternative 
like tox.im is ready. Maybe it is already, lets see what further testing 
reveals.

Ciao,
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