RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Database error after upgrading & Incorrect HELO in Received Header

2009-06-25 Thread Craig Edmonds
Can someone please unsubscribe me from this list?

I have tried 3 times to do so.

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-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: 25 June 2009 21:18
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Database error after upgrading & Incorrect
HELO in Received Header

Hi,

a) As far as the HELOBOGUS test - you likely are missing the various IMAIL
11 fixes that Ipswitch created but only gives out when you ask:
http://kb.imailserver.com/cgi-bin/imail.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=
691
With the latest fixed SMTP service and Imail_API DLL, my HELOBOGUS test does
not seem to trigger for all messages (but certainly for lots of spam that
has 3 times the hold weight).

b) Is that Imail domain using the registry or SQL for its user database.

All my domains are using the registry and my Declude log appears to look
normal, e.g.:

06/24/2009 23:59:58.680 q93ea0001414e0aa2.smd Did not find [
alifeedb...@service.alibaba.com ] in [ merchand...@dollardays.com ] address
book
06/24/2009 23:59:58.680 q93ea0001414e0aa2.smd Finish Address Book WhiteList

Best Regards,
Andy


-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Rogers
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:35 PM
To: declude.vi...@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Database error after upgrading

So I emailed David about this issue and he had me turn off AUTOWHITELIST 
and that seemed to get rid of the error.  It seems that Imail 11 changed 
the database it uses for contacts and this is why Declude was generating 
that error. 

But I'd really like to turn AUTOWHITELIST back on. 

And, since the upgrade all emails are failing the DYNHELO and HELOBOGUS 
tests so I've had to reduce their weights for the time being.  Has 
anyone seen this or have any ideas how to correct?

Thanks.


Kevin Rogers wrote:
> I upgraded to 4.6.35 because of the AVG scanner issue, but now in my 
> declude logs I am seeing error messages like this:
>
> 06/23/2009 00:38:48.986 q8f0c00670096.smd DataBase Error = 
> ['(unknown)' is not a valid path.  Make sure that the path name is 
> spelled correctly and that you are connected to the server on which 
> the file resides.
> Driver's SQLSetConnectAttr failed
> ]
>
> I didn't have these errors before my upgrade.  Any ideas?
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Todd,
 
I think grey listing prevents backscatter coming INTO your mail server, it
does not prevent you getting on blacklists.

If you are on a blacklist then I think you need to figure out how your smtp
server is configured because it would indicate an issue somewhere. 


Since using Alligate (www.alligate.com) as the first line of defence in
front of declude, we have had zero black listings and all the backscatter
has disappeared. The backscatter rules in declude really blow which is why I
would highly recommend looking at Alligate as your smtp gateway.


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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E :  <mailto:cr...@123marbella.com> cr...@123marbella.com
 
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Graveen
Sent: 16 May 2009 13:54
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter
 
I think Greylisting reduces backscatter.  Greylisting stops the majority of
the SPAM from ever reaching our mail server, so it never has a chance to get
bounced back because of a non existent user, etc.

Mike
  _  

 
Hi Everyone -
 
We've been having a few issues with mail servers refusing our mail.  Today I
ran a test on DNSStuff and found that our IP is on BackScatter.org.  They
are referencing an  event on 4/27, and supposedly we will be removed after 4
weeks if they haven't had any other issues.  Of course we can pay to have it
removed sooner.  I'm not sure if being listed in their DB is the main
culprit to the server refusals that I've seen?
 
We switched over to SmarterMail in mid-April.  Since 4/27, we have
implemented grey listing.  
 
Is grey listing a good first line of defense?  Is there anything else I
should be doing to prevent back scatter? 
 
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
 
Todd

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

2009-03-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
I used to get loads of backscatter attacks and then i found Alligate and I
never experienced backscatter again!

 

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
redbara...@qwest.net
Sent: 22 March 2009 16:09
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

 

Yes, that is the we are currently listed on.

 

  _  

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:24 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

 

Are you talking about backscatter?

 

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
redbara...@qwest.net
Sent: 22 March 2009 03:02
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

 

I am using Declude 4.3.7 with Smarter Mail 4.3 with a couple of domain
forwarding setup for basic spam virus filtering. I am running into the
problem that one of the domains that are forwarded is getting slammed with
invalid email address on the domain. Since SM doesn't check for a valid user
on the end server I am getting a huge amount of failure noticed trying to go
back to invalid senders. This is causing a very large spool and we are
getting black listed. Does anyone have a script or a config that would
address this? I am ok with deleting the email if it is not a valid recipient
if that is my only chose. 

 

Thanks

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

2009-03-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
Are you talking about backscatter?

 

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
redbara...@qwest.net
Sent: 22 March 2009 03:02
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Check for valid email recipients

 

I am using Declude 4.3.7 with Smarter Mail 4.3 with a couple of domain
forwarding setup for basic spam virus filtering. I am running into the
problem that one of the domains that are forwarded is getting slammed with
invalid email address on the domain. Since SM doesn't check for a valid user
on the end server I am getting a huge amount of failure noticed trying to go
back to invalid senders. This is causing a very large spool and we are
getting black listed. Does anyone have a script or a config that would
address this? I am ok with deleting the email if it is not a valid recipient
if that is my only chose. 

 

Thanks

 

Rick

 

 



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[Declude.JunkMail] website design service spam emails

2009-02-19 Thread Craig Edmonds

Okay.

I am starting to get seriously annoyed with the spam email below that keeps
hitting my own inbox a couple of times a day.

Does anyone know a simple way for me to pick up on these mails in declude
and add weight without affecting normal mails?

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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E : cr...@123marbella.com

-Original Message-
From: Don [mailto:zhuazhujih2...@msn.com] 
Sent: 19 February 2009 08:57
To: webmaster
Subject: **Spam? [WEIGHT: 18]**website design service (CA)

You are receiving this email because we wish you to use our web design
service.

We are web design studio from China. We are specialized in web page design,
website development, graphics & multi-media design, flash website design and
other relevant services. We pride ourselves with our technical strength,
professional vision, unique style, and most of all, our highly devoted
professional designers. We are in position to offer website solution,
graphics design, e-commerce solution, online promotion and other medium and
small business oriented services. 

Core offerings

Business website design 
Business website redesign 
Flash website design 
Flash website redesign 
Ecommerce website design 
Ecommerce website redesign 
Company website design
Company catalog design
Company logo design
Graphic design
Google search engine optimization
ERP Solutions

Pls check our website to see portfolio.

Best regards,
Don
V.DASK Information Technologies
Website team
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

2009-02-13 Thread Craig Edmonds

I had this problem too  and I have imail 8.15 so the stupid fix does not
apply to me either.

Therefore I had the choice (or rather the ultimatum from CBL) to either
upgrade Imail or use a smtp gateway.

So I now use Alligate as an smtp server.

It funny...notthat they "used" to whitelist imail users, now they dont,
they just give you the ultimatum even when you can prove that your server is
legit and well protected.

The guys at CBL have their heads up theirwell you can imagine it.


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-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: 13 February 2009 18:25
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


Thanks Andrew.  I just got a note from CBL that says that they are no longer
automatically removing Imail machines, as there is a fix.  Not sure if my
older version (8.2x) is part of that fix or what.  Anyway, their message
said

"The CBL attempts to detect compromised machines in a number of ways based
upon the email that the CBL's mail servers receive.

During this it tries distinguish whether the connections represent real mail
servers by ensuring that each connection is claiming a plausible machine
name for itself (via SMTP HELO), and not listing any IP that corresponds to
a real mail server (or several mail servers if the IP address is a NAT
firewall with multiple mail servers behind it).

8.7.193.82 was found to be using several different EHLO/HELO names during
multiple connections on or about:

2009:02:12 ~21:30 UTC+/- 15 minutes (approximately 19 hours ago).

The names seen included:

enwcommunity.com, hcaa.com, mail.nnepa.com, p01c11m022.mxlogic.net,
p01c11m096.mxlogic.net, p01c11m102.mxlogic.net, p01c11m107.mxlogic.net,
p01c12m013.mxlogic.net, p01c12m062.mxlogic.net
"

The first two are legitimate virtual domains on our server, the third is our
server.  But I have no idea where the mxlogic.net names are from?

Todd





-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:56 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

Here's the answer, Todd.

http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_fo...@list.ipswitch.com/msg103112.html

It's an old problem with CBL and IMail. Certainly, CBL is at fault and
by now they should have at least taken up SPF record checking to weed
out false positives. I just checked your SPF record and it is valid, so
this would have helped you.


Andrew.


 

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:42 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


OK, Sorry to cry wolf.  I sent them an email directly (which is what
they
said to do if you are running Imail) and it appears that they have us
removed already.  Not sure why/how we got added, if it has anything to
do
with Imail (as they suggest) or what.  I'm running several misc. scans
on
our server to be sure we don't have a problem.  Any other suggestions of
how/why, or what to check are always appreciated!

Todd


-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:13 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

Hi  Everyone -

Late yesterday I started seeing some bounces that our IP address was
being
rejected because of the following:

RCPT TO generated following response:
554 Denied [SHXBL] - Denied by Spamhaus XBL - See
http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=8.7.193.82 (Mode: normal)

I checked and we are, in fact, listed in CBL.  I went through the steps
to
request removal.  Is there anything else I should do?  I'm really not
sure
how we got on it anyway.  Does anyone know how long it takes?  I've got
several people hollering at me because anything they send out is being
rejected as spam.

Todd




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted

2009-02-13 Thread Craig Edmonds

What mail server are you running?

Kindest Regards
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-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: 13 February 2009 17:13
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL:IP is Blacklisted


Hi  Everyone -

Late yesterday I started seeing some bounces that our IP address was being
rejected because of the following:

RCPT TO generated following response:
554 Denied [SHXBL] - Denied by Spamhaus XBL - See
http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=8.7.193.82 (Mode: normal)

I checked and we are, in fact, listed in CBL.  I went through the steps to
request removal.  Is there anything else I should do?  I'm really not sure
how we got on it anyway.  Does anyone know how long it takes?  I've got
several people hollering at me because anything they send out is being
rejected as spam.

Todd




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server software

2009-02-03 Thread Craig Edmonds

Why are you moving away from Imail?

I hear Smarter Mail is quite good and integrates with declude. (i think you
can also migrate from imail to smarter mail)

http://www.smartertools.com/

I use imail myself.

Kindest Regards
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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Loughlin
Sent: 03 February 2009 15:45
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server software


I am going to move from Imail soon.
Does any one have any recommendations on reasonable Mail Server software.
we need maybe 200 users, and we just pop our mail now.
I have been using Workgroup Share to add calendar sharing etc to our current
config.
Has any one used their Mail Server software and what do you think of it?
and will my junkmail still work with it?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce Loughlin



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail frowarding bypasses Declude JunkMail?

2008-12-20 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Kathy,

I also get that problem when people are using rules to forward emails.

Its very annoying and difficult to explain to clients.

I would like to also hear about the workaround for this.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
 <http://www.craig-edmonds.com/> http://www.craig-edmonds.com



 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Kathy 
Leonard
Sent: 20 December 2008 20:05
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail frowarding bypasses Declude JunkMail?

 

I have a number of people complaining about a lot of spam getting through to 
mailboxes. After checking, I found that these people either had Inbound rules 
copying messages or just forwarding to another mailbox outside the server.

Other users don't see this level of spam and I wanted to know if anyone had 
heard of this issue and how to get around it.

IMAIL version 2006.1

Declude Version 4.4.18

Kathy Leonard
Thanks!


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

2008-12-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Darin,

 

Thanks mate.

That also sounds quite good too and I will also try it.



Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 09 December 2008 16:36
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi Craig,

 

While it's not a whitelist, you could use the fromfile test with a high
negative weight to achieve your goal.  We have a tiered set of tests that
work similar to this:

 

FROMWHITELIST_LOWfromfile\fromwhitelist_low.txt
-1000 

FROMWHITELIST_MEDfromfile\fromwhitelist_med.txt
-2000 

FROMWHITELIST_HIGHfromfile\fromwhitelist_high.txt
-5000

 

For reference, we have all test scaled to a hold weight of 100 for
granularity and easy calculations.

 

As for the TODOMAIN test, you might instead simply set up a different
.junkmail file for that domain or domains.  That way you can effectively
turn off filtering for it/them.

 

We have some customers who don't want any filtering, so we have the
following lines in our $default$.junkmail file to point to separate configs
for those domains:

 

REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] \$postmaster$.junkmail 

REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] \$postmaster$.junkmail 

REDIRECT @example.com \$nofilter$.junkmail

 

We monitor the abuse@ and postmaster@ addresses for all domains.  Both the
$postmaster$.junkmail and $nofilter$.junkmail are set to WARN on all tests,
but we separated them in case we made changes in the future.

 

Hope this helps,


Darin.

 

 

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From: Craig Edmonds <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:43 AM

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi All,

 

Currently in the global.cfg file there is a section like this...

 

# - IP TODOMAIN Example -

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com

 

However I would like to add a skip-spam-filtering.txt file so the above
would look something like this...

 

WHITELISTfromfile
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt

 

Or 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt



Is this possible? And if so what format should the skip-spam-filtering.txt
be?

 

Like this? 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com


or just a list of addresses or domains like this ? 

@example.com

@adomain.com
@hello.com

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

2008-12-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi David,

I will try that.

Thanks for the help!

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: 09 December 2008 16:19
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi Craig,

 

I understood what you are trying to do, but the fromfile and todomain are
different functions and I can't see how this could be used for want you want
to achieve. Perhaps this would work ?

 

1.   Create or use an existing per-domain folder eg. Example.com

2.   When the time comes have your script create a blank txt file and
place it in the folder (example.com) with the file name of the user.junkmail
eg. Joe.junkmail

 

This would translate to Declude no action for the individual so all spam
would go through.. just an idea ?


David

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi David,

Maybe I did not explain properly.

I need to be able to create a file on my mail server which contains a list
of addresses and/or domains, so that when mail is sent to that email/domain
its does not get scanned for spam but rather the email just gets delivered
to the user.

The reason I want to do this is so that I can incorporate a script which
will add users domains/email addresses to the file, so that when they have
an overdue invoice, their spam filtering gets turned off. (funnily enough
bills get paid really fast after about a day of being bombarded with spam)

The only way I can think of doing it, is by having an external file to the
global.cfg.

I dont fancy logging into the mail server and editing the global.cfg every
time.

What do you think? Is it possible?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: 09 December 2008 15:40
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Craig,

 

TODOMAIN is for email that is being sent TO a specific domain. Whereas a
fromfile is email FROM a specific address. Both these configurations are for
totally different purposes and cannot be combined.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:44 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi All,

 

Currently in the global.cfg file there is a section like this...

 

# - IP TODOMAIN Example -

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com

 

However I would like to add a skip-spam-filtering.txt file so the above
would look something like this...

 

WHITELISTfromfile
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt

 

Or 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt



Is this possible? And if so what format should the skip-spam-filtering.txt
be?

 

Like this? 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com


or just a list of addresses or domains like this ? 

@example.com

@adomain.com
@hello.com

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

2008-12-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi David,

Maybe I did not explain properly.

I need to be able to create a file on my mail server which contains a list
of addresses and/or domains, so that when mail is sent to that email/domain
its does not get scanned for spam but rather the email just gets delivered
to the user.

The reason I want to do this is so that I can incorporate a script which
will add users domains/email addresses to the file, so that when they have
an overdue invoice, their spam filtering gets turned off. (funnily enough
bills get paid really fast after about a day of being bombarded with spam)

The only way I can think of doing it, is by having an external file to the
global.cfg.

I dont fancy logging into the mail server and editing the global.cfg every
time.

What do you think? Is it possible?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
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E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: 09 December 2008 15:40
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Craig,

 

TODOMAIN is for email that is being sent TO a specific domain. Whereas a
fromfile is email FROM a specific address. Both these configurations are for
totally different purposes and cannot be combined.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:44 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

 

Hi All,

 

Currently in the global.cfg file there is a section like this...

 

# - IP TODOMAIN Example -

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com

 

However I would like to add a skip-spam-filtering.txt file so the above
would look something like this...

 

WHITELISTfromfile
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt

 

Or 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt



Is this possible? And if so what format should the skip-spam-filtering.txt
be?

 

Like this? 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com


or just a list of addresses or domains like this ? 

@example.com

@adomain.com
@hello.com

 

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[Declude.JunkMail] create a TODOMAIN file

2008-12-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi All,

 

Currently in the global.cfg file there is a section like this...

 

# - IP TODOMAIN Example -

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com

 

However I would like to add a skip-spam-filtering.txt file so the above
would look something like this...

 

WHITELISTfromfile
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt

 

Or 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\skip-spam-filtering.txt



Is this possible? And if so what format should the skip-spam-filtering.txt
be?

 

Like this? 

 

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @example.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ adomain.com

WHITELISTTODOMAIN @ hello.com


or just a list of addresses or domains like this ? 

@example.com

@adomain.com
@hello.com

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re:Declude vs Perry (ES)

2008-09-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
I am not a lawyer so dont understand 100%.

So Scott Perry agreed to sell the code but kept a copy anyway and when the
new owners of Declude went to raise capital they found out that Scott Perry
had already developed an additional product with the code they had bought.

I dont see the problem myself?

The new owners of declude are just protecting their interests no?

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
Hayer
Sent: 09 September 2008 16:16
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re:Declude vs Perry

 

Hi David -

Below was forwarded to me - as a long time Decluder I am very disappointed
in seeing something like this - 

-Nick



 

http://dozierinternetlawpc.cybertriallawyer.com/computer-lawyer

 

DECLUDE, INC. AND DNSSTUFF, LLC. v. R. SCOTT PERRY DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS
(BOSTON) 1:08-cv-11072 

FILED: 06/25/08

The ownership of source code and the ownership of the code in general used
to build a website is often an overlooked issue. Make sure that you have
spelled out not only the ownership of the code but also the requirements
relating to what code can be retrieved from the public domain. If you are
using a web developer who retains ownership of source code then you risk
having that developer use the code with future competitors at much lower
costs and with the benefit of your intellectual capital in developing the
architecture, engineering, and business processes. 

Declude purchased the Defendant's anti-virus, anti-spam and anti-hijacking
software in September, 2000, and sold the products as "Declude Virus",
"Declude Junkmail", and "Declude Hijack". The Defendant, R. Scott Perry,
allegedly used the same source code in developing an additional product, and
when the Plaintiff went to venture capitalists to raise capital, the
detailed due diligence revealed that Defendant had retained a copy of the
source code contrary to the provisions of the purchase agreement in 2000,
and had again sold some of the same code to the Plaintiff in the new product
he had launched.

The Plaintiff has sued the individual Defendant for copyright infringement,
breach of contract, fraud, conversion, unjust enrichment, and unfair and
deceptive acts and practices. Dozier Internet Law Cross-Reference Number
1190.

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)

2008-08-29 Thread Craig Edmonds

Yeah. Glad to hear that it all works for you.

ALWAYS copy and paste domain names and email addresses!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Fosseen
Sent: 29 August 2008 16:03
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems


Thanks everyone for your input.  It looks like my install is now working as 
it should be.

The slow delivery times was caused by performance problems on a remote mail 
server and a MX record that should have been reconfigured.  The simple story

was that 5+ years ago I was running backup smtp servers for some of my 
clients.  The problem was that I still had one of these clients setup with 
me running a backup to their mailserver.  What looks to have happened is 
that the recent increase in mail caused their mail server beyond capacity 
which caused an assortment of problems from not responding, to starting to 
accept mail and then stall.  So when their mail server was choking mail 
started to come into my Alligate server.  When my Alligate tried to verify 
users it would contact the sick mail server which for all practical purposes

tar-pitted the requests.  Eventually Alligate was using all it's resources 
to establish connections to a mail server that could not complete requests, 
and email simply backed up.  Once AGSupport reconfigured my AG box to not 
accept mail for the problem domain the problem went away (after is cleared 
it's backlog).

The 2nd issue was a new domain I added I misspelled the domain name.  Even 
after I had checked the spelling on not less than 5 occasions I missed the 
typo each time.  Once that was corrected AG worked as expected.


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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM
To: 
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems

| >From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. 
I
| have to say my installation has been plagued with problems.  I installed 
on
| a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and
| mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives.
 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: Alligate Problems (ES)

2008-08-27 Thread Craig Edmonds
Dang. Thats good Harry.

Kind of wish I did not splash out 10k for a new server specially for
Alligate!!!

:o(

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet Services
W: www.123marbella.com



 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry
vanderzand
Sent: 27 August 2008 15:23
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: Alligate Problems

 

Alligate and Imail have different IPs on the same machine.

 

In my setup all MX records point to the Alligate IP of x.x.x.22

 

Alligate then forwards the mail to Imail at x.x.x.12.

 

You also need to be sure that imail only listens on its own IP and no others
on the machine.

 

At this point I still have my clients sending mail out through Imail so that
I can scan the mail for spam.

 

It is simple and works very well

 

I have to give credit to Darrell at Invariant Systems who has way more
experience with this and who was a great help in getting this set up and
working.

 

Harry Vanderzand

NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008

Intown Internet

117 Ruskview Road

Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1

519-741-1222

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:05 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: Alligate Problems

 

Harry

 

If you are running Alligate  AND  IMail  on the same machine,

how do you have DNS / Alligate / IMail configured?

 

I'm a little confused.

If IMail is set up to respond on port 25,

what did you have to do to have Alligate get port 25 and NOT IMail?

AND, when the Customer SENDS an email, does it go thru

Alligate also? Or does the Customers email go directly to IMail?

 

My configuration Ex: for domain xyz.com

in DNS

an "A" record points to the IP on the IMail server

a "MX" record points to the "A" record

mail   A   123.123.123.123

MX  10 mail.xyz.com

 

Customer (in Outlook Express)

POP3 entry is mail.xyz.com

SMTP entry is mail.xyz.com

Customer can also go to  <http://mail.xyz.com> http://mail.xyz.com for web
email

 

Does anything have to change :

(1) in DNS

(2) at the Customers end

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell Ard

 

 

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To: < <mailto:declude.junkmail@declude.com> declude.junkmail@declude.com>

Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:32 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems

 

>I love Alligate.
> 
> We have never had any problems with it and it takes care of over 80% of
the
> spam at the front end.
> 
> We run it on the same box as my imail software and when we implemented it
> the server went from an average of 90% utilization to around 50%.
> 
> I find it well worth it
> 
> Harry Vanderzand
> NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008
> Intown Internet
> 117 Ruskview Road
> Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1
> 519-741-1222


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: Alligate Problems (ES)

2008-08-27 Thread Craig Edmonds
This would be just a guess but if it were me I would have Imail run on port
2525 and Alligate on 25. 

 

Kindest Regards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell
Ard
Sent: 27 August 2008 15:05
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: Alligate Problems

 

Harry

 

If you are running Alligate  AND  IMail  on the same machine,

how do you have DNS / Alligate / IMail configured?

 

I'm a little confused.

If IMail is set up to respond on port 25,

what did you have to do to have Alligate get port 25 and NOT IMail?

AND, when the Customer SENDS an email, does it go thru

Alligate also? Or does the Customers email go directly to IMail?

 

My configuration Ex: for domain xyz.com

in DNS

an "A" record points to the IP on the IMail server

a "MX" record points to the "A" record

mail   A   123.123.123.123

MX  10 mail.xyz.com

 

Customer (in Outlook Express)

POP3 entry is mail.xyz.com

SMTP entry is mail.xyz.com

Customer can also go to  <http://mail.xyz.com> http://mail.xyz.com for web
email

 

Does anything have to change :

(1) in DNS

(2) at the Customers end

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell Ard

 

 

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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:32 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems

 

>I love Alligate.
> 
> We have never had any problems with it and it takes care of over 80% of
the
> spam at the front end.
> 
> We run it on the same box as my imail software and when we implemented it
> the server went from an average of 90% utilization to around 50%.
> 
> I find it well worth it
> 
> Harry Vanderzand
> NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008
> Intown Internet
> 117 Ruskview Road
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)

2008-08-26 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
I run Alligate also in front of my Imail server.

I got it for the backscatter. No more backscatter my friends!

Alligate is brilliant!!

If you are having a delay of 2 hours, have you checked your /imail/proc/
folder to see if there is anything sitting in there?

Youa re running smarter mail of course so don’t have a /imail/proc/ folder
but there must be the equivalent in smartermail.

;o)

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I love Alligate.

We have never had any problems with it and it takes care of over 80% of the
spam at the front end.

We run it on the same box as my imail software and when we implemented it
the server went from an average of 90% utilization to around 50%.

I find it well worth it

Harry Vanderzand
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>From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate.  I

have to say my installation has been plagued with problems.  I installed on 
a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and 
mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives.

I have settings that revert back to previous settings after I save, and I 
have not been able to tell how many messages are waiting to be delivered to 
my Smarter mail server running declude.  I know I am only running an eval, 
but my first support request took a while.

I am currently have 1 Smarter mail district complaining about long delivery 
times.  The one email I looked up my Alligate server said it received the 
mail at 2pm, but my Smarter mail server shows delivery at 4pm.  I was not 
able to find anywhere in the alligate logs where it tried to send the 
message to my Smarter mail server.  My Smarter mail server is running on a 
Dual Quad core system and is hardly tasked.

I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate 
supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips 
you can share.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations (ES)

2008-05-29 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
Can someone email me the details of this?

I am running declude on imail with an Alligate in front of it.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations


Nick Hayer said:
> I have a small utility that will allow Declude (for 
> Imail) to run on an Alligate box without Imail being present.


... and it works. I'm using Nick's utility so that my "antispam gateway"
is Alligate + Nick's utility instead of IMail. Like many people, I
bought into Declude as my antispam product, and IMail just happened to
be the platform it ran on.

I'm much happier paying for Alligate than IMail. Ipswitch never made me
happy. Never.


Andrew.
 

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Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
> I use Alligate from Solid Oak Software, and I like it a lot.
   
as do I.

The really slick part is how it reduces bandwidth - it *very* accurately

distinguishes spam et al before the DATA command thereby preventing the 
unwanted emails from ever being received..

Shameless plug -  I have a small utility that will allow Declude (for 
Imail) to run on an Alligate box without Imail being present. If anyone 
is interested email me off list and I will send you a copy.

-Nick

> On my primary gateway, I received just shy of 500,000 connections in
the
> last 24 hours, and my Declude only had to see 4% of that traffic. Yes,
> 4%.
>
> I'm spending less time doing clever things in Declude, because
Alligate
> is pre-filtering so well for me.
>
>
> Andrew.
>  
>
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> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations
>
>
> I believe I have seen some replies to this already, but I though I
would
> put 
> this out again.   I am hosting about 30 domains worth of email and
> filtering 
> for an additional 10 domains.  My current configuration is all mail is

> pre-filtered through a Barracuda 400 box, then forwarded to a
> Smartermail 
> 4.x server running Declude with Sniffer, Zero Hour, invURIBL.  The 
> Smartermail/Declude box is a Dual Quad Core HP server with 2 Gig of
RAM.
> I 
> am currently receiving about 600k email messages a day on the
Barracuda
> box, 
> and it is seeing performance issues.  Before I purchase a 2nd
Barracuda
> box 
> I though I would check to see if anyone has a better solution.
Declude 
> still catches 40-60% SPAM after the Barracuda box.
>
> Thanks
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations (ES)

2008-05-29 Thread Craig Edmonds
I just installed Alligate in front of my "decluded" mail server and it
certainly cuts down alot of the traffic to the mail server. Previously the
cpu on the declude mail server was 60-90% all day, now it rarely goes over
10%.

No more backscatter! No more dictionary attacks.

Its pretty straightforward to configure and only took me about an hour or
so.

A small tip though in order to save all the pain of dns changes if you have
many domains, to redirect all your smtp traffic to the Alligate server, you
can configure your router to send all port 25 traffic to the Alligate server
instead of the mail server.

 

Declude is an excellent product, but add Alligate to it and you you are onto
a winner.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: 28 May 2008 23:32
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Pre-Processor recommendations

 

Scott,

Alligate is a good gateway to use when you have something like Declude
behind it.

The only reason that I can think of that your Barracuda box is seeing that
many messages would be because you might not be validating addresses.  Like
Andrew said, you can cut your connection traffic by 95% with ease, but a
large number of those connections are to bad addresses (backscatter and
'dictionary' attacks).  You must validate addresses at your gateway.

You can run Alligate on a single core box with 1 GB of memory and a single
hard drive.  Just make sure to dedicate the box to Alligate in order to
avoid issues when resources are that sparse.

Matt



Scott Fosseen wrote: 

I believe I have seen some replies to this already, but I though I would put

this out again.   I am hosting about 30 domains worth of email and filtering

for an additional 10 domains.  My current configuration is all mail is 
pre-filtered through a Barracuda 400 box, then forwarded to a Smartermail 
4.x server running Declude with Sniffer, Zero Hour, invURIBL.  The 
Smartermail/Declude box is a Dual Quad Core HP server with 2 Gig of RAM.  I 
am currently receiving about 600k email messages a day on the Barracuda box,

and it is seeing performance issues.  Before I purchase a 2nd Barracuda box 
I though I would check to see if anyone has a better solution.  Declude 
still catches 40-60% SPAM after the Barracuda box.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE check (ES)

2008-05-23 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi John,

Keep us posted how you get on because I have no idea about regular expressions 
and would like to see how you trun out.

:o)

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net



 

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Sent: 23 May 2008 17:07
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PCRE check

 

I am taking my first stab at regular expressions.

Trying to write a line to catch all of the @ allen info xx . info from 
addresses.

So far, I have "mailfrom 10 PCRE @allen(*{0,6}).info"

Is that to broad or not efficient? (I think that means look for any 6 
characters between @allen and .info is a match.

John T
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: alligate

2008-04-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Harry,

Thanks for that. I will try it!

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry
vanderzand
Sent: 22 April 2008 21:12
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: alligate

 

Your MX record should be changed to the new Alligate IP address.

 

Alligate will send mail to imail server

 

No change needed in Imail as far as I recall

 

Harry Vanderzand

NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008

Intown Internet

117 Ruskview Road

Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1

519-741-1222

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: alligate

 

Hi All,

I have installed alligate on a new dedicated server and configured
everything by the looks of it.

Does anyone know what DNS settings I need to make on my domain and what I
need to change on my IMAIL server?

I sent a support ticket to alligate about 10 seconds ago but am itching to
get it working and wondered if anyone here knew.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: alligate

2008-04-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi All,

I have installed alligate on a new dedicated server and configured
everything by the looks of it.

Does anyone know what DNS settings I need to make on my domain and what I
need to change on my IMAIL server?

I sent a support ticket to alligate about 10 seconds ago but am itching to
get it working and wondered if anyone here knew.

 

Kindest Regards
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using "postmaster@" in their FROM email

2008-04-22 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Ferrell,

 

Its called "backscatter".

I had to post some info about it on my site for my own clients. Feel free to
copy it.

 

http://www.123marbella.net/kb.html#6 


I am currently looking at alligate gateway in order to add some added
protection to my mail network.

However, declude does have a filter for this and i did install it and no one
has really complained since then so it may have worked.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com

 

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Ard
Sent: 22 April 2008 17:22
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMMERS using "postmaster@" in
their FROM email
Importance: High

 

Don't know if Declude (or anyone) can help, but we are seeing

a L O T  of bounce-backs that show that the SPAMMERS are

using valid  postmaster@ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   (that we
host) as their FROM address

and send the SPAM out thru Post Offices other than ours.

 

When the SPAM goes to a non-existant address, it bounces back

to the valid postmaster@ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  on my
Server.

We are getting 5,000 - 10,000 of these bounces per day..

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much

Ferrell


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

2008-04-19 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Michael,

I am sorry to hear you are having a struggle, but I am running mine on HP
servers also and have had no real problems at all in fact I have not had to
reboot my server for over 18 months now. 

Is your server a dedicated mail server or do you run anything else on it?

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

Michael,

Judging by that screen cap you are having a rough time to say the least.

I am sure you have exhausted a ton of options, but have you turned off 
DEP for Declude?  I have seen repeated crashes like that on a system 
which did not exclude Declude under DEP.


Darrell
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Michael Hardrick wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude.
> 
>  
> 
> I don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception.
> 
> I’ve lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to
function.
> 
> I’ve been using the product since about 2000.  The past three
> 
> years have been dismal.  Between spools filling up, system crashes,
> 
> CPU loads at 100%,  Memory Leaks,  Application Errors, Application Hangs,
> 
> GP Faults, etc...
> 
>  
> 
> Declude support was always there… to point the finger back at me
> 
> and the server.  Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something
> 
> wrong with the version of Windows I was running.  I purchased a
> 
>  HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought
> 
> that would resolve the issues.
> 
>  
> 
> The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server
> 
> every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours.
> 
> We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server.
> 
> http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png
> 
>  
> 
> This is the only way to keep the server running.  I keep a very limited 
> amount
> 
> of traffic on the server.  No need to push the envelope.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Hardrick
> 
> TNWEB
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
> *Craig Edmonds
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM
> *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
> 
>  
> 
> I second that.
> 
> I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we 
> would be completely screwed.
> 
> In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with 
> a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour.
> 
> Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times 
> where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam 
> floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were 
> thanking me the next day.
> 
> I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year.
> 
>  
> 
> Kindest Regards
> Craig Edmonds
> 123 Marbella Internet
> _www.123marbella.net_
> 
>  
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
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> 
>  
> 
> Dan, Todd,
> 
>  
> 
> I feel a little like you.
> 
>  
> 
> We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
Sorry for the last email everyone with the attachment, i meant to send it
directly to Pete at Arm Research.

I clicked the reply button wrote my mail and realised about 10 milliseconds
after clicking send which by that time the email had already gone from my
outbox.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com




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Sent: 09 April 2008 16:41
To: Craig Edmonds
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

On Wednesday, April 9, 2008, 10:01:56 AM, Craig wrote:

 


> 

Hi Darin,

 

I guess what I am looking for from Declude (or a third party) is to provide
me a filter that will phrase filter the incoming form mail and determine if
its a spammy one or not.

 

We may be able to help you.

 

Please send some samples (zipped) off list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Pete,

I attach an email forwarded from a client with the body of a form spam. 

Banning the spammer by IP don't work because usually they just use proxy
servers. 

I will try and dig up some others that I used to get before I installed
captchas on my own form at 123marbella.com

If you think its at all possible to make a filter for this, then I can
budget a couple of hundred, if not don't worry too much about it.

Kindest Regards
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E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

On Wednesday, April 9, 2008, 10:01:56 AM, Craig wrote:

 


> 

Hi Darin,

 

I guess what I am looking for from Declude (or a third party) is to provide
me a filter that will phrase filter the incoming form mail and determine if
its a spammy one or not.

 

We may be able to help you.

 

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More on the sales side, thanks.
Michele

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Is this from the rentals site or sale site?
 

Kindest Regards
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Darin,

 

I guess what I am looking for from Declude (or a third party) is to provide
me a filter that will phrase filter the incoming form mail and determine if
its a spammy one or not.

I am not really great at creating filters myself but this is how I would
imagine there would be some regex involved.

 

1) message comes in from the web server/domain

2) the ip address of the web server is checked, if its from a known web
server that we know has forms on it then it gets run through the filter

3) the body of the message is checked with REGEX filtering

4) weight is added to the email dependant on the results

This process would mean that if a client suddenly starts seeing his form
being spammed, he lets us know and we add their domain to the filter and any
further forms that comes in, will get checked.

I am no declude/regex genius but this theory sounds pretty solid to me.

 

The problem we have here, is that clients suddenly complain about form spam
(from forms we have designed without captchas or ones others have designed)
and when we say , "well you need a captcha and its going to cost you
$50-$100 for us to install one of them", I get the feeling they kind of view
it like some kind of scam. (I mean if I did not understand about this kind
of stuff, I would think the same).

The other methods ie with div tags and captchas are great but it involves
someone's time to programme the pages etc but it would be nice to have some
control over the incoming spams at the mail server level too.

I anyone thinks they can make a filter for this, then let me know. I can
spend a couple of hundred bucks on this.



Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 09 April 2008 15:34
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

Hi Craig,

 

There's really nothing Declude can currently do with this.  The headers will
all be different, and the format and content of the messages are all
different, based on what the web form handler does.

 

That only leaves the actually values in the form fields for filtering
purposes.  To filter that, you need to use SURBL and REGEX phrase filtering.
These are not Declude's purview.  Declude is an enabler for you to script
your own filters, or use those from third parties like SURBL lookups or
content filtering engines.

 

It sounds like what you're asking for is for Declude to get into the
business of providing an SURBL lookup function, keeping an SURBL database
updated, and implementing something like Message Sniffer's content filtering
engine.  Is that correct?


Darin.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:22 AM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

Thanks people for the comments.

 

I will stick with captchas for now but it would be great if declude could
figure a nice filter to deal with it, at the end of the day its still
incoming spam.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Web Design in Spain
W: www.123marbella.net

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 09 April 2008 15:09
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

Hi Matt,

 

Some do, some don't.  I've seen both methods used on some customer sites.

 

Setting session variables on the form page definitely wouldn't work, as a
spammer that hits the form would receive the same session information anyone
else would.

 

Certainly checking data against constraints is _always_ important, whether
to prevent hacking, avoid data exceptions, enforce business rules, etc.

 

The method you outline seems like it would only work if the spammer doesn't
submit to all fields.  Some of the attempts we've seen populated all fields,
so this wouldn't work on those.

 

I'd stick with CAPTCHA as the best and most foolproof method to avoid these
problems.  It's fa

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thanks people for the comments.

 

I will stick with captchas for now but it would be great if declude could
figure a nice filter to deal with it, at the end of the day its still
incoming spam.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Web Design in Spain
W: www.123marbella.net



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 09 April 2008 15:09
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

Hi Matt,

 

Some do, some don't.  I've seen both methods used on some customer sites.

 

Setting session variables on the form page definitely wouldn't work, as a
spammer that hits the form would receive the same session information anyone
else would.

 

Certainly checking data against constraints is _always_ important, whether
to prevent hacking, avoid data exceptions, enforce business rules, etc.

 

The method you outline seems like it would only work if the spammer doesn't
submit to all fields.  Some of the attempts we've seen populated all fields,
so this wouldn't work on those.

 

I'd stick with CAPTCHA as the best and most foolproof method to avoid these
problems.  It's fairly easy to implement (there are a number of free
examples in public domain), is familiar to most people filling out the
forms, and works well.


Darin.

 

 

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From: Matt <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

The form spammers are smarter than to go directly to the mail script.  They
will hit for the form submission page with what appears to be IE and submit
the form.  They even handle cookies correctly.

The trick for form spam is to take fields like your Name and E-mail and
rename the variables to something like "ignore-old-data1" and
"ignore-old-data2" and adjust your mailer script for the new names.  Then
you insert new form fields in the form page that are hidden with a DIV and
call them Name and E-mail.  Your mailer script should pretend that the
E-mail was successful if these fields have data in them, but you should
simply 86 the actual message.  This will trick their testing software into
thinking that they were successful, and the DIV's with visibility hidden
will not be seen by normal visitors.  You might also want to put some
javascript in the form submission page that looks for a URL in the form and
warn the submitter that they can't send URL's, and then also have the mailer
script silently reject a submission that has a URL in it.  RegEx would be
required in both JavaScript and the ASP or whatever code to do the URL
checking.

As far as I know, this seems to work perfectly, but setting session
variables on the form page doesn't do a damn thing.

Matt



Darin Cox wrote: 

Since forms all use different emailers, and the form content is different as
well, your only hope is content filtering based on what the spammer
submitted... like SURBL filtering or REGEX on the spammer submission.

 

These days, web-based form processing pages should minimally check that the
referring page is what it is supposed to be (i.e. the form page submit
button was clicked as opposed to a spammer submitting directly to the form
action URL), and better yet implement CAPTCHA, require a login, or some
other similar security measure.


Darin.

 

 

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From: Craig Edmonds <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:16 AM

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

 

Hi All,

Is there a filter for form spam?

Some clients complain that they get form spammers sending in junk via their
web forms.

Some clients have captchas on their forms some don't, but I would like to be
able to filter out the junk at declude level.

Any ideas?

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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[Declude.JunkMail] form spam filter

2008-04-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi All,

 

Is there a filter for form spam?

 

Some clients complain that they get form spammers sending in junk via their
web forms.

Some clients have captchas on their forms some don't, but I would like to be
able to filter out the junk at declude level.

 

Any ideas?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

2008-04-03 Thread Craig Edmonds
I second that.

I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would
be completely screwed.

In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a
support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour.

Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I
have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates
opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the
next day.

I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
www.123marbella.net

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan
Chayer
Sent: 03 April 2008 22:21
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

 

Dan, Todd, 

 

I feel a little like you.

 

We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years.  It works
great for us.  Especially since they brought up version 4 including
Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move.

 

We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years.  We
were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the
previous purchases from all our customers.  We deal with other vendors that
would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations.

 

I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the
product works well and the support is just amazing. 

 

Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put
ameliorations in a product.

 

I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make money.

 

Keep the good work

 

Stephan Chayer 
IntraSoft Solutions Inc. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  _  

De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Linda
Pagillo
Envoyé : 3 avril, 2008 14:35
À : declude.junkmail@declude.com
Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure!

 

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2

 

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer | Declude

 

Your Email Security is our business

 

Direct: 978-225-8436
Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2
Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2
Fax: 978.334.0700
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From: Todd Richards <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:06 AM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

 

I totally agree with Dan’s email.  Declude has been working great for us, so
it’s money well spent.  On the other hand, our IMail SA just expired, which
cost us close to $1000 a year and a half ago, and I was never satisfied to
the point where I could upgrade.  So that amounted to worthless money spent.
I’m pretty comfortable when David says an update is available that it really
is ready.  The support – esp. Linda – has been fantastic.

 

Our SA with Declude is up in June.  I have every intention of renewing.

 

Todd

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Shadix
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

 

I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates.  I don’t have time to be
constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are
problematic.  Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam
e-mail solution that I’ve encountered.  I haven’t really been looking lately
but the others that I’ve seen were a lot more expensive.

 

Everyone has to choose the product that works for them.  Declude works for
me.

 

Dan

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew

 

Kevin,

 

Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free,
this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you
notice that between major releases we make available several interim
relea

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

2008-04-03 Thread Craig Edmonds
I have been having exactly the same problem on both mail servers.

 

Both are.

 

Imail 8.15

Declude 4.3.64

 invURIBL 3.1.1

 Sniffer

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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Comerford
Sent: 03 April 2008 20:46
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Forged-Spam Backscatter

 

Over the last several weeks we have seen a dramatic increase in spam hitting
our server.  From about 70,000 mails a day to around 110,000 /day.

 

Most destined for our users is getting properly filtered by declude.

 

What is getting thru is backscatter from spam that is forging addresses from
domains we host.  It seems just about any address that is posted on a
website seems to be being used to forge outgoing spam (not from our server)
-- and is generating all sorts of bounce messages.

 

I suspect there is not much I can do to block this backscatter without
blocking legit bounce messages... but I thought I'd ask.

 

Here is our config:

Imail 8.22

Declude 4.3.64

invURIBL 3.1.1

Sniffer


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] My server has been totally revived!!!

2008-04-02 Thread Craig Edmonds
Oka.

 

I am off to get the trial right now!

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
www.123marbella.net

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry
vanderzand
Sent: 01 April 2008 23:35
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] My server has been totally revived!!!

 

I just want to share the effect of adding a gateway to my setup.

 

I installed Alligate on the same server that is handling my
imail/declude/sniffer/invuribl.

 

My server was getting to be quite overloaded especially during peak time.  I
thought I was only processing about 40,000 mails a day.  I was going by the
imail daily report.  Of course that was wrong.  It does not include all the
spam that never makes it to imail.  I found that our when I installed
DLAnalyzer from invariant Systems.  To my amazement I was processing 500,000
mails a day.  No wonder there was the odd crash of decludeproc or imail smtp

 

After investigating solutions and a discussion with Darrell from Invariant,
I decided to get Alligate.  That was last week.  I have it running smoothly
with about 200 domains and my server has room to spare.  Whereas the
hardware was averaging around 90% utilization is it now at half that.
Declude\imail is now reporting only 67,000 mails a day.  Imail itself sees
only 20,000.  What a change.

 

I sure hated to spend another 800 on spam but sure am glad I did.  My
hardware can last much longer.

 

Times sure change  98% spam is huge when you get 500,000 mails a day

 

Much thanks to Darrell for his assistance.

 

I will gladly share more if anyone is curious

 

Harry Vanderzand


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RE: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software Crossgrade?

2008-03-11 Thread Craig Edmonds
Better the devil you know.

Make sure smartermail works for you before switching.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
www.123marbella.net  

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: 11 March 2008 15:00
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software
Crossgrade?

 

Matt -

 

I'm not arguing, but simply asking as I'm looking at moving to SM.

 

Our license with Ipswitch is 3x that of the same version of SM.  The service
agreement that we purchased - but never used (because I never had enough
faith in the new version of IMail) is almost twice the cost of purchasing SM
new.  From what I've heard from everyone I've talked to, SM actually works,
so the support calls are minimal anyway.  You do get free updates within the
version.  So if once a year I have to buy the newest version at 65% of the
retail, which is still much cheaper than Imail, I'm not sure what the
difference is?

 

My SA with Imail actually just expired as I haven't had a chance to test SM
yet.  So my dilemma is do I renew my Imail SA at almost $1000,so I can
continue running 8.22, or purchase a brand new version of SM for half that
through Declude, and have the features that work that we've been waiting
for?

 

As for the software protection, I was working with a rep from SmarterMail at
the start of February.  He informed me right then and there that they were
planning a release at the end of Q1, and that I would get the new update.
Doing the math, that is almost 45 days on the bat.  So either they actually
keep their promises (unlike Ipswitch) or they would have stretched that time
to take care of me.

 

Again, maybe I'm missing something so this wasn't to start an argument.  And
I apologize for continuing the OT email.

 

Todd

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:17 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software
Crossgrade?

 

Wow.  One thing immediately pops into my head...these people are greedy as
hell!

Prices continue to rise with each successive version, and they continue this
odd behavior of not selling software subscriptions, but instead charging 65%
of the original price for upgrades.  This might be all fine and dandy except
for the fact that they are on a one-year upgrade cycle, they stop updating
previous versions, and you don't get a support contract with your purchase.
Of course this flies in the face of the reality of the market where hosting
is heavily commoditized and only getting worse.

SmarterMail works well, but it's a shame that they don't understand the
economies of their customers, and that works against them.  I would
definitely argue that by not offering a software subscription at a
reasonable and standard market rate of 30% of full retail price, they fail
to capture a good deal of upgrade potential and therefore upgrade revenue,
and they lose goodwill by having fewer customers due to this pricing.  They
also lose customers by only offering 45 days (formerly 30 days) of
protection for new purchases, so anyone thinking about buying it now would
be better off waiting for the release just to guarantee that they weren't
stuck on an unsupported version of the product.  That's hugely boneheaded of
them.  So it would be close to a wash in revenue to do something as typical
and expected as to have a software subscription for a standard market rate.

Matt


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software Crossgrade?

2008-03-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Alex,

When you move to new hardware the performance will be much better.

 

I recently upgraded two mail servers running imail 8.22 due to performance
issues and now they work really well. I have about the same amount of
domains per server. Now with the upgrade I can probably double the capacity
of domains.

On the new server, make sure you have plenty of RAM 2GB min, Min 10k scsi
drives. (we use 15k to be sure)

 

I was thinking of migrating to smartermail but the migration looks very
painful and with the amount of domains you have you are looking at several
hours of downtime for sure.

If you are thinking of migrating, do your research first mate.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet

www.123marbella.net  



 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
Klinge
Sent: 10 March 2008 13:19
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software Crossgrade?

 

Smartermail actually works.

 

~Rick

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hirthe,
Alexander
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:44 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware upgrade -Software Crossgrade?

 

Hello,

 

we are going to move to an new hardware. 

 

At the moment we are running Imail 8, Declude, Sniffer. It works, but Spam
detection is not perfect and overall system performance is getting worse. 

 

Should we 

-  wait for IMail 10? 

-  use IMail 9?

-  stay with Imail 8?

-  move to Smartermail? 

 

We host about 200 domains, with about 2000 Mailboxes.  

 

Alex

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DecludePro Eating Up CPU

2008-02-10 Thread Craig Edmonds
:o)

1 Meg of Ram is not much Mate.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Dodell
Sent: 10 February 2008 19:10
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DecludePro Eating Up CPU

I am running a Dell with a Pentium D 3.0 machine / 1 meg of RAM.

Decludeproc is eating up 50 to 75% of the CPU cycles ... is this  
normal, increase the amount of RAM?

David


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an authenticated whitelisted

2008-01-24 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi John,

I know! Its gone pretty quiet on this list.

 

Alive and Kicking over here!



Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: 24 January 2008 17:35
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an
authenticated whitelisted

 

2 years ago, I would have had a dozen replies by now and even possible a
nice discussion going on.

 

Where is everybody?

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:05 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Indicate msg size in header on an authenticated
whitelisted

 

I am trying to figure out how to add a line in the header of a message to
indicate it is over xKB in size with that incoming message being whitelisted
via authenticated sender. 

 

Example, user1 on the local Imail server sends a message to user2 on the
local Imail server, hence the email is whitelisted since user1
authenticated. But the message is over 2 MB and user2 is currently traveling
and using a slow broadband card. The desired action is to have a test that
"fails" on the over 1 MB size and an inbound rule on user2 that will then
move that message to a submail box called LargeFiles. This way, user2 when
he connects via his Outlook does not try to download that email, instead he
will be responsible for checking that folder via webmail and then if he
needs it right away he can either download the attachment via webmail or
move it to his normal inbox.

 

Thoughts, Ideas, cookies?

 

John T

 


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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need replacement

2008-01-05 Thread Craig Edmonds
Can you use eEye's Blink on a mail server?

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford
Whiteman
Sent: 04 January 2008 21:37
To: Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server EndOfLife - need
replacement

> To replace blackice functions as to load on a server and monitor and
> block  what  applications  sends  out on individual ports. I have an
> offending app or task that trying to send out on random ports , I am
> trying to find it and block it

Yep,  a HIPS like BlackIce can't be replaced by a separate firewall. I
have  kind  of  been  holding  in  reserve my newfound love for eEye's
Blink, but there it is -- pls contact me off-list for more info if you
want.  I'm  currently  rolling it out to 125 stations and find it more
than able. I have no relationship to the vendor.

--Sandy



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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Use MS IIS SMTP server as a gateway

2007-12-12 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi All,

 

A little off topic but  i was wondering if anyone can help me find a
tutorial on how to set up my IIS server running Imail 8.15 and Declude to
use the MS IIS SMTP server as a gateway.

I am having or going to have problems with CBL blacklisting me again in a
few days unless I use the ms smtp server as a gateway for my email.

 

Any help on this would be great.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net



 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail

2007-12-11 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thanks Andrew, you are a star!

Great advice and much appreciated.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 December 2007 13:46
To: Craig Edmonds
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to
Smartermail

 

Hi,

 

Just got through doing the upgrade, a few things you should do/know.

 

1) cleanup imail email boxes before you run the migration utilityit
takes a lot longer if you don't.

2) smartermail requires using the full email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
for logging in (pop3).  By default, it's that way with the web interface
also.

3) get smartermail setup on IIS ASAP as opposed to the built in smartermail
web interface... you'll have performance issues otherwise

4) the default password rules in smartermail are for at least 5 character
password and different username/pw (you can't use username for the password
for the account username).   If you users with shorter passwords, they'll
have issues so you may want to change that from the start.

5) declude is more tightly integrated with smartermail than Imail...you're
gonna like that :)  Give declude a call and they'll help you get that setup.

6) make sure you read the install/migration instructions carefully.  

7) If you have dialup customers, they're not going to like you in the
beginningsmartermail web interface is more graphical/slower

8) there is a management learning curse...smartmail is different from Imail.
You'll like smartermail better after you learn to navigate.  The key here is
to login as the admin first and learn to get around from there.

 

 

Thanks,

Andrew Baldwin

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.thumpernet.com 

315-282-0020

 

Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 3:25:04 AM, you wrote:

 


> 

The time has come to dump Imail 8.15 which has been pretty solid but due to
CBL.ABUSE picking on me for using Imail 8.15 I need to get rid of imail and
I cant upgrade to Imail 2006 so Smartermail is looking like the best option
for now. (basically cbl said "you have to upgrade your imailwe don't
care if it costs you money")

 

I have two dedicated mail servers on windows I need to upgrade.

 

Has anyone been through the migration process of Imail to smartermail and is
there much involved?

 

Also, I run declude, do I have to make many changes to that also and does
anyone know if there is a cost for that?

 

Any advice on this would be appreciated.

 

Kindest Regards

Craig Edmonds

123 Marbella Internet

W:  <http://www.123marbella.com> www.123marbella.com

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[Declude.JunkMail] upgrade/migrate from Imail 8.15 to Smartermail

2007-12-11 Thread Craig Edmonds
The time has come to dump Imail 8.15 which has been pretty solid but due to
CBL.ABUSE picking on me for using Imail 8.15 I need to get rid of imail and
I cant upgrade to Imail 2006 so Smartermail is looking like the best option
for now. (basically cbl said "you have to upgrade your imailwe don't
care if it costs you money")

I have two dedicated mail servers on windows I need to upgrade.

 

Has anyone been through the migration process of Imail to smartermail and is
there much involved?

 

Also, I run declude, do I have to make many changes to that also and does
anyone know if there is a cost for that?

Any advice on this would be appreciated.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Smartermail tutorials

2007-07-19 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Hi All,

 

I stumbled across these tutorials and find them very useful and hope some of
you smarter mail users will too.

 

I bought some flash tutorials off this guy and he does a real great job and
its real value for money.

 

You send him your logo and he drops it into the tutorials and they look just
like you made them yourself.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Same Here.

Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately
on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday)

Sniffer from Armresearch
invURIBL from invariant systems
ZEROHOUR from Commtouch

With that combo you cant go wrong.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of 
incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before 
upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and 
invURIBL.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Degenhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration


Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
like to share my frustration with
you. I am poured with SPAM the last
two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
every day. Am I the only one who
is seeing this ?
I am in a good contact with David
of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
job, but sometimes I loose my faith
and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
It appeals to me, as it is like the old
principle: If you put water on the fire
at one place, you have to run to the next
place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
will get cleverer everyday.
What do you guys think ?
Are you frustrated as well ?

Uwe




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

2007-05-22 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
I have been using  <http://www.websitepulse.com> www.websitepulse.com for the 
last 5 years and they have not let me down yet.

 

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W:www.123marbella.net

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (lists)
Sent: 22 May 2007 11:05
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I have switched from WhatsUp to Network Monitor by Numara Software, the same 
company that sells Track IT.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:47 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

Like everything else at ipswitch it has gone up in price. $1995 for the lowest 
price point.

 

 

Kevin

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:50 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

Hi Kevin-

 

I monitor everything in my shop for a pulse, and check web, pop, smtp, and/or 
imap as appropriate using Ipswitch's What's Up, 1995 version (3.5, maybe?). I 
get emails to my cellphone when anything goes awry.  I have no idea what it 
costs now, but it has served my needs well, even if the setup of this old 
version is a bit quirky.


-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Bilbee <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:30 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I guess I should have given more information. Things I want to do. Monitor our 
web and SMTP applications and send text message notifications to a cell phone 
and email address concurrently.

 

Thanks for the responses so far anyone else have any experiences.

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:06 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: server monitoring

 

I am doing research on purchasing/open source server monitoring and would like 
to know what Declude administrators recommend.

 

Survey sais?

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammer authenticating

2007-05-18 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Hi Serge,

 

I had the same problem recently with a spammer guessing accounts and
password but I have "declude hijack" installed and am able to catch them
very quickly even if the user authenticates. (its amazing how many legit
users send mail to their "mailing lists")

 

I also have a script running on the hold 1 and 2 folder every 30 minutes
which checks the folders for the existence of any emails being held and it
emails me if it finds anything.

That way you know if anyone is spamming your server or if there are any
users sending more than the normal amount of mail.

 

Get blackice server from ISS installed which is a powerful tool to protect
the mail server. 

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W:www.123marbella.net 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: 18 May 2007 05:16
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammer authenticating

 

Dear all

 

Last week, i caught a spammer authenticating to my sever (using admin and
test account)

I deleted these accounts (how does he found the passwords ?)

 

Today, i found same, using info account

But i have no info account, only alias

Looking at logs, found that he autanticated using
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any idea what is he doing ? why is the qfile showing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
?

 

 

QF:\Imail\spool\D07420039c9ac.SMD
Hmail.mydomain.com
I07420039c9ac
T3
E0,
S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Y1
V0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NRCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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[Declude.JunkMail] ndr bypassing

2007-05-17 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Is it posible to set declude to allow NDR's to by pass spam filietring?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 



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[Declude.JunkMail] ndr bypassing

2007-05-17 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Is it posible to set declude to allow NDR's to by pass spam filietring?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Image spam

2007-03-06 Thread Craig Edmonds
 

Commtouch works great for me.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
Marbella Guide Property Web Portal
W:  <http://www.123marbella.com> www.123marbella.com
W: www.marbellaguide.com 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly
Scotto
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:04 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Image spam

 

Thank you I will check these out.

 

Kelly

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:08 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Image spam

Declude and Image based spam - 4 methods

1. COMMTOUCH

Commtouch Recurrent Pattern Detection contains an intrinsic mechanism to
exact-match recurrent patterns across similar but not-identical messages.
However in the case of images, the minute the spammer makes even the
smallest changes to an image, the image-encoded data appears completely
different. Commtouch identified this trend in the earliest days of
image-based spam, and made the necessary enhancements to its detection
engine in order to defend against this new threat with a sophisticated
protection shield. Commtouch invested significant resources into developing
a method for decoding the images and then sampling them using the proven RPD
approach. The result is a significantly improved spam detection rate, while
maintaining the same low false-positive rate.

2. CLAMWIN

Using ClamAV as a virus scanner with Declude you can download the
MSRBL-Images.hdb file which has additional signatures (MD5 sigs) which
contains signatures created from images contained within spam emails.
http://www.msrbl.com/site/msrblimagesdownload

3. FILTER-CID

Identifies emails which contains images increasing the weight suffeciently
on spam messages to reach the spam threshold.

#EXCEPTIONS
BODYENDNOTCONTAINScid:
BODYENDNOTCONTAINSContent-Type: image/

#IMAGES
BODY3CONTAINSsrc=3D"cid:
BODY3CONTAINSsrc="cid:
BODY3CONTAINSsrc='cid:

BODY3CONTAINSimg src="cid:
BODY3CONTAINSimg src=3Dcid:

BODY3CONTAINS/cid:

#IMAGE TYPES
BODY2CONTAINSContent-Type: image/gif;
BODY2CONTAINSContent-Type: image/jpeg;

4. VAMSOFT IMAGE SPAM AGENT

This tool is an External Agent for ORF 2.1 and newer versions that improves
ORF by image spam detection capabilities, but can be used by Declude.
http://www.vamsoft.com/vsimagespam/vsimagespam.zip

VSIMAGE   externalnonzero"[path]\Declude\VSIMAGE\imgspamagent.exe
-check" 40

 

David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly
Scotto
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:47 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Image spam

Has there been a declude filter created for blocking or identifying image
spam? If so can somebody post it for me to try.

 

Thank You,

Kelly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] disable subject line warning on one email account

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi Darin,

 

That sounds like it.

 

Any instructions on how to do it?

 

Put a file in the domain directory? What would the format be?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:41 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] disable subject line warning on one email
account

 

Not a rule, but either a domain-level or user-level config to change the
WARN action to IGNORE.

 

Darin.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Craig Edmonds <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:33 AM

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] disable subject line warning on one email
account

 

I would like to disable the subject line warning that gets placed in the
subject line for one particular email account on a domain.

 

He is complaining that he sees too many emails with a subject warning.

 

Kind of like this. "if the email address = [EMAIL PROTECTED] then don't put
subject line warning"

 

Any rule I can place in the config file to do this?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 

 


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[Declude.JunkMail] disable subject line warning on one email account

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Edmonds
I would like to disable the subject line warning that gets placed in the
subject line for one particular email account on a domain.

 

He is complaining that he sees too many emails with a subject warning.

 

Kind of like this. "if the email address = [EMAIL PROTECTED] then don't put
subject line warning"

 

Any rule I can place in the config file to do this?

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

 

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports email

2007-02-07 Thread Craig Edmonds
Also look at black ice server from ISS. Hijack is an excellent tool too.

 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
www.123marbella.net
www.marbellaguide.com

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(lists)
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:15 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock
reports email

 

Since you are using Declude, start using Hijack NOW! That is for starters.
Review the logs to see where the IP is and block that IP.

 

John T

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
Smith (N.O.R.A.D.)
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Need hep - mail server sending out stock reports
email

 

Running  imail  8.15,sniffer and declude  - starting  on 2/6/7 my mail
server start sending out the stock reports email , even when I stop the
imail smtp process , nothing is in the Imail logs indicating problems . I
have ran full scans with frprot  and Symantec .

 

Need help please  , I have already made the spamcop blacklist

 

 

Howard Smith

N.O.R.A.D. Inc.

P.O. Box 680116

Miami, Florida 33168  

www.norad.com <http://www.norad.com/>  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Office - (305) NETWORK (638-9675)

Sales - (786) 206-0045

Fax 1 - (305) 359-5144

 



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] change location of spam email folders

2007-01-02 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thank Darrell,
 
That worked perfect by changing the line in $default$.junkmail
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
W: www.marbellaguide.com
 
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:16 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] change location of spam email folders


You sure can - see example below.
 
WEIGHT30  HOLD F:\SPAM-HOLD\%DATE%

Darrell
 

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: Craig  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Edmonds 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] change location of spam email folders

Is it possible to have all the spam email folders stored in a different
folder other than C:\IMAIL\spool\spam ??
 
say a subfolder perhaps? like C:\IMAIL\spool\spam\emails
 
Currently declude creates folders called 31Dec2006 for example in
C:\IMAIL\spool\spam and I would like them to be stored in
C:\IMAIL\spool\spam\emails.
 
I was looking around the config files and cant see a setting anywhere for
it.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
 
 

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[Declude.JunkMail] change location of spam email folders

2006-12-30 Thread Craig Edmonds
Is it possible to have all the spam email folders stored in a different
folder other than C:\IMAIL\spool\spam ??
 
say a subfolder perhaps? like C:\IMAIL\spool\spam\emails
 
Currently declude creates folders called 31Dec2006 for example in
C:\IMAIL\spool\spam and I would like them to be stored in
C:\IMAIL\spool\spam\emails.
 
I was looking around the config files and cant see a setting anywhere for
it.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
 
 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: "Message" Storage

2006-12-14 Thread Craig Edmonds

I know you said that catch all does not work but something I do for certain
clients is make two email accounts.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then I make a rule in Imail that sends a copy of all incoming to the
incoming address and then a copy of the outgoing mail to the outgoing email
address.

The file sizes can get huge if it's a busy domain but I also run a vbscript
every couple of days that moves the main.mbx to our backup server and
renames the file 12142006main.mbx.

Its not the most elegant solution but its free.

I would be interested in a paid solution though if there is one out there.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William
Stillwell
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:26 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: "Message" Storage


Does anybody know of a product (that doesn't cost a arm, and three legs)
that will archive all email for a specific domain for x number of years?
Imail "CopyAll" Will not work.. No way to "orginize" all the email, and I
don't want to archive the spam...



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?

2006-11-17 Thread Craig Edmonds
me too.
 
I thought the purpose of the end function was so that if the email reaches a
certain weight, like 50, declude drops any further tests, thus saving
precious CPU.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com <http://www.123marbella.com/> 
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?
Importance: High


Wow - really? When was that changed? I know that the filter "test" itself
did not show as "failed", but the WEIGHT always carried over!
 
Take a look at Scott's reply when this feature was implemented and the
weight-result of the END was being discussed:
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg14009.html
 
"[1] the E-mail will stop processing, 
[2] the test will *not* fail (this may change -- I'm not sure why it was set
up that way), and 
[3] the weight will be exactly what it should have been when END was
reached."
 
And it's only logical.
 
If you WANTED a filter to return 0, then you would simply place the 'END'
lines at the BEGINNING of the Filter!
 
If you place the 'END' line behind other lines that accumulated weight, then
it clearly is the intention that the weights be COUNTED and that only any
FURTHER weights not be added!


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:06 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes
WEIGHT?


The END function means END the filter and do not add any of the points for
that filter. If the END condition is met it is as if the filter never ran.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 'END' statement in 4.3.14 flushes WEIGHT?


Hi,
 
Can anyone confirm that the 'END' statement is functioning properly. I've
been noticing/suspecting that certain test combinations had much too little
weights and I finally have time to debug that.
 
This is the entry in the GLOBAL.CFG
 

CONTENT  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\CONTENTfilter.txt x 0 0


Means - the filter itself has a weight of 0 - all weights would be assigned
IN the filter
 
Here CONTENTfilter.txt:
 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 20
MAXWEIGHT 9
 
TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS SNIFFER
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-SCAMS
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-PORN
TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-MALWARE
TESTSFAILED 1 CONTAINS SNIFFER-OBFUSC
TESTSFAILED -2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP
 
TESTSFAILED 4 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT1
TESTSFAILED 5 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT2
TESTSFAILED 6 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT3
TESTSFAILED 7 CONTAINS INV-URIBL-WT4
 
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SPAMCOP
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS NJABLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLSOURCES
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS AHBLPSSL
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SORBS-SPAM
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SENDERDB-BLOCK
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS SBL
 
TESTSFAILED 2 CONTAINS SNIFFER-IP

As far as I can tell, the Filter works fine as long as there is only SNIFFER
and/or URIBL and will return the proper weights around 7 through 9.  
 
However, if it hits the END statement is appears as if it always returns
ZERO.  In other words, it loses the weight that had been accumulated up to
that point.
 
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU

2006-11-14 Thread Craig Edmonds

Not sure if this is any help but I had similar issues and found that my
C:\IMAIL\spool\proc\work folder contained hundreds of thousands of messages.

When I deleted all the messagaes in there, the pop 3 server share of the cpu
dropped dramatically.

I could not actually delete everything in the work folder initially. I had
to stop the declude process in services, then rename the /work folder to
/work2, started declude service again and a new /work folder was created.

I actually have no idea why this worked and am not enough of an anorak to
study why, but it worked for me and I do this every few days.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net


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netsolution webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU

With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process
everything in time,  since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have
difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok).

What ways are there to
- refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce,
just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing?
- refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)?

OR what other methods could speed up things?

We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15)

Thanks


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Paid Subscription Black Lists

2006-11-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
Agreed.

Message Sniffer is pretty good.

Lets not forget the excellent tool from invariant systems...
http://www.invariantsystems.com/invuribl/


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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Moore
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Paid Subscription Black Lists

Message Sniffer
buy it. install it. love it.

John

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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:18 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Paid Subscription Black Lists

Hi. Any one have any good luck with any paid subscriptions?  We have been
hit hard lately, and are willing to dish out some dough to get our stats
back up.  Please advise.  Thanks! -Chris



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[Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting based on rev dns

2006-11-08 Thread Craig Edmonds



How can I whitelist 
based on Reverse DNS?
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

2006-11-02 Thread Craig Edmonds
Oh look.

Number 1 on google for domain keys.

http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:25 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Just throwing this out there. I had heard that Yahoo.com was using
greylisting on all email that did not support domain keys. Don't now if it
is true, perhaps a rumor may be worth checking out.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:34 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Yahoo delivery problems

Hi Everyone,

This isn't a Declude question but with all of the expertise here I knew
someone could help.  Please forgive the off-topic message.

I'm receiving a bunch of deliver failures today for Yahoo.  The message is:

Failed Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason: Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - [190]


I searched google and I searched Yahoo's site to see if I could find an
explanation of this message -- no joy.

I didn't know if it meant they are blocking our IP or if Yahoo was having
problems.  It sounded to me like they are blocking us.

I could not find anything on Yahoo's site about who to contact, what the
message means -- nothing.

Can someone shed some light on what may be going on?

Thanks,

Dave





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Results ! 92.9 percent delete rate...

2006-11-02 Thread Craig Edmonds
Hi,

Where did you get the declude log reader from? 


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:13 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Results ! 92.9 percent delete rate...

Doing my monthly checkup on how my rules are working, and was blown away at
the actual amount I am getting. 11 thousand a day ? Damn, we only have 250
employees ! Anyone else seeing this upswing ? Two-three months ago I was
getting 6 thousand a day..

The new version of Declude is rocking..

Check it outhttp://www.casselberry.org/results.bmp


Karl Drugge
 





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer - New Engine

2006-10-30 Thread Craig Edmonds



whats the link?
 
I cant find it here http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 


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Alberto ArangoSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:10 PMTo: 
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Engine



For those using sniffer (like me) there is 
a new engine that you can download. 
It claims 
to be twice as fast. 
That should be very useful theses days where 
spam traffice have increased a lot.
    
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] the proc work folder

2006-10-27 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thanks David, that worked perfect.

Kindest Regards
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Sensitivity: Confidential

1. Are you running an Real time scanner ?
 
2. Stop the decludeproc service, rename the work folder, restart the
decludeproc service and a new work directory should be created.
 
David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] the proc work folder
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Confidential


Hi,
 
Am having a couple of issues with my server and have just looked in the
c:/imail/spool/proc/work folder.
 
When I browse to that folder using windows explorer, it takes ages and ages
to open and looks like its empty when in fact its trying to load the files.
 
When i right click and select properties to see if there are files in the
folder, the properties box is saying there are literally hundreds of
thousands of files in there. (216,843 files)
 
Does anyone know how I can empty this folder becasue it seems to be stuck in
some kind of loop.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] the proc work folder

2006-10-27 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thanks David, that worked perfect.

Kindest Regards
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Sensitivity: Confidential

1. Are you running an Real time scanner ?
 
2. Stop the decludeproc service, rename the work folder, restart the
decludeproc service and a new work directory should be created.
 
David Barker
Director of Product Management
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
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Importance: High
Sensitivity: Confidential


Hi,
 
Am having a couple of issues with my server and have just looked in the
c:/imail/spool/proc/work folder.
 
When I browse to that folder using windows explorer, it takes ages and ages
to open and looks like its empty when in fact its trying to load the files.
 
When i right click and select properties to see if there are files in the
folder, the properties box is saying there are literally hundreds of
thousands of files in there. (216,843 files)
 
Does anyone know how I can empty this folder becasue it seems to be stuck in
some kind of loop.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] the proc work folder

2006-10-27 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi,
 
Am having a couple 
of issues with my server and have just looked in the c:/imail/spool/proc/work 
folder.
 
When I browse to 
that folder using windows explorer, it takes ages and ages to open and looks 
like its empty when in fact its trying to load the files.
 
When i right click 
and select properties to see if there are files in the folder, the properties 
box is saying there are literally hundreds of thousands of files in there. 
(216,843 files)
 
Does anyone know how 
I can empty this folder becasue it seems to be stuck in some kind of 
loop.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q files magically dissapearing

2006-10-24 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi Darrell,
 
In your fpreview programme (which is pretty useful) how 
about making it when you "return to queue", it gives an option to recreate the q 
file?
 
I have made a small command line vbs script which does it 
but its still time consuming to enter the data one by one but cuts down the time 
have to create one manually. 
 
I wrote this last night very quickly becasue I have about 
250 legitimate mails which are broken and have to fix them one by one. It very 
basic but does the job for me today.
 
<--- start script 
 
Set ArgObj = WScript.Arguments 
 
filename=ArgObj(0)
 
Sender=ArgObj(1)
 
Recipient=ArgObj(2)
 
Spoolfolder="c:\imail\spool\"Qfilename="Q" & 
filename & ".smd"Dfilename="D" & filename & 
".smd"Filename=Spoolfolder & Qfilename
 
'=='write the q 
file first'==Set fso 
= CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")set 
fname=fso.CreateTextFile(Filename,true)Set fso=nothingSet 
fname=nothing
 
'=='now write the 
content of the q 
file'==Set fso = 
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")Set fname = 
fso.OpenTextFile(Filename, 8, True)
fname.write 
"QC:\IMail\spool\"  & Dfilename & vbCRLFfname.write 
"Hmail.mail2.123marbella.com" & vbCRLFfname.write "S<" & 
Sender & ">"    & vbCRLFfname.write "R<" & 
Recipient & ">"  & vbCRLF
 
Set 
fso=nothingSet fname=nothing
 
set ArgObj = 
Nothing
 
<--end script
 
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:19 
AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: 
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q files magically dissapearing

Craig,
 
fpReview loads the D* file.  If you are having 
failures in the SMTP transaction you will have broken files (i.e. the Q* file 
does not exist OR is prefaced with t*).
 
I am not sure what Imail version your running but 
have seen others report a signifigant increase in broken connection files in 
2006.
 
Darrell
--------Check 
out http://www.invariantsystems.com for 
utilities for Declude And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig 
  Edmonds 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:12 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q 
  files magically dissapearing
  
  On one of my imail 
  servers, my spool folder is slowly filling up with D 
files.
   
  I am using 
  fpreview to view the files in the spool and there are currently 180 or so 
  emails.
   
  when i try to 
  "return to queue" I get an error saying that the q file could not be found, 
  whch isa bit strange becasue many many of the emails are local to the 
  server.
   
  When I look in the 
  /spool there is a not a single q file anywhere.
   
  Any ideas whats 
  happening?
   
  Has sniffer or 
  declude gone nuts?
   
  Kindest RegardsCraig 
  Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q files magically dissapearing

2006-10-23 Thread Craig Edmonds



on further inspection, the files where the q spool 
files have dissapeared all have the ERR 02 Virus scan in the log file.I 
am running ClamWIN. Is this an clamwin error?
 
206229 10:23 
23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) [65.17.213.163] connect 80.33.86.200 port 
12913206230 10:23 23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) [80.33.86.200] EHLO 
gordo206232 10:23 23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) Authenticated [EMAIL PROTECTED], session 
treated as local.206233 10:23 23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) 
[80.33.86.200] MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>206235 10:23 
23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) [80.33.86.200] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>206239 10:23 
23:59 SMTPD(3b24000400828f94) [80.33.86.200] 
C:\IMail\Spool\D3b24000400828f94.SMD 7198206278 10:23 23:59 
SMTP-() Info - Adding Queue file 
C:\IMail\Spool\q3b24000400828f94.smd 206279 10:23 23:59 
SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) processing 
C:\IMail\Spool\q3b24000400828f94.smd206280 10:23 23:59 
SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) [x] looking up sanquets.com in HOSTS and 
MX206291 10:23 23:59 SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) Info - Adding sanquets.com 
to DNS cache - TTL = 40280 206292 10:23 
23:59 SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) ERR 029 - Virus scan call generated general fault, 
treating as infected206293 10:23 23:59 SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) Virus 
detected, Not repaired, Message deleted, Virus data =""> 
206294 10:23 23:59 SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) Creating message from 
Postmaster206295 10:23 23:59 SMTP-(3b24000400828f94) finished 
C:\IMail\Spool\q3b24000400828f94.smd status=1
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: 
Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:13 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q 
files magically dissapearingImportance: HighSensitivity: 
Confidential

On one of my imail 
servers, my spool folder is slowly filling up with D files.
 
I am using fpreview 
to view the files in the spool and there are currently 180 or so 
emails.
 
when i try to 
"return to queue" I get an error saying that the q file could not be found, whch 
isa bit strange becasue many many of the emails are local to the 
server.
 
When I look in the 
/spool there is a not a single q file anywhere.
 
Any ideas whats 
happening?
 
Has sniffer or 
declude gone nuts?
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: imail q files magically dissapearing

2006-10-23 Thread Craig Edmonds



On one of my imail 
servers, my spool folder is slowly filling up with D files.
 
I am using fpreview 
to view the files in the spool and there are currently 180 or so 
emails.
 
when i try to 
"return to queue" I get an error saying that the q file could not be found, whch 
isa bit strange becasue many many of the emails are local to the 
server.
 
When I look in the 
/spool there is a not a single q file anywhere.
 
Any ideas whats 
happening?
 
Has sniffer or 
declude gone nuts?
 
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Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
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[Declude.JunkMail] mxrate 7. sniffer 10, zerohour 0?

2006-10-18 Thread Craig Edmonds



HI 
All,
 
As you all know by 
now, my knowledge on these things is pretty slim but is this not a bit strange that 
commtouch gave this spam zero points.
 
I am just trying to 
figure how good commtouch is.
 
X-Declude-Note: # 
TESTS FAILED: MXRATE-BLOCK [7], SUBCHARS-50 [1], SNIFFER [10], WEIGHT10 [10], 
WEIGHT14 [14], ZEROHOUR [0] 
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] catchall/nobody aliases and filter files

2006-10-17 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thank Gary,

I have also found another page here with some filtering tips...

http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBCategory.aspx?categoryid=4


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Steiner
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] catchall/nobody aliases and filter files

You can find links to several pages with filter samples at
http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm


 Original Message 
> From: "Craig Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:53 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] catchall/nobody aliases and filter files
> 
> Unfortunately I have some clients who need the nobody alias in order 
> to catch mails. (I have seriously thought about them signing an 
> agreement when they insist on it becasue I know its not really wise to 
> have catchalls these
> days.)
>  
> In the global.cfg file there is a line that says.
>  
> CATCHALLMAILS  catchallmails x x 0 0
>  
> Should I increase the weight up to say 10?
>  
> I mean anyone sending to an account that does not exist, is more than 
> likely someone spamming right?
>  
> I am starting to fiddle with my declude setting rather than fiddling 
> with myself so any ideas on this would be welcome.
>  
> Does any one have any sample filter files for these??
>  
> #FILTER-ADULT
> #FILTER-COUNTRY
> #FILTER-FORGED
> #FILTER-MEDICAL
>  
> Kind thanks in advance.
>  
> Kindest Regards
> Craig Edmonds
> 123 Marbella Internet
> W: www.123marbella.com
> 
> 





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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Missing purported responsible address

2006-10-17 Thread Craig Edmonds



Does anyone know 
what this means?
 
A client sent it to 
me this morning saying they are trying to send to that address and are getting a 
bounce back and the bit below makes part of the error.
> 
undeliverable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]s> Body of message generated response:> 550 5.7.1 Missing purported responsible 
address
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] zero hour score/weight

2006-10-16 Thread Craig Edmonds



Sorry, I am lost 
again with what zero hour does?
 
I have the following 
in a spam I received today which was one of those image 
spams.
 
X-Declude-Note: # 
SPAM WEIGHT: 17X-Declude-Note: # TESTS FAILED: SUBCHARS-50 [1], SUBCHARS-55 
[1], SUBCHARS-60 [1], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT14 [14], ZEROHOUR [14] 

 
should this not have 
been caught?
 
Am I confusing score 
and weight?
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] catchall/nobody aliases and filter files

2006-10-14 Thread Craig Edmonds



Unfortunately I have 
some clients who need the nobody alias in order to catch mails. (I have 
seriously thought about them signing an agreement when they insist on it becasue 
I know its not really wise to have catchalls these days.)
 
In the global.cfg 
file there is a line that says.
 
CATCHALLMAILS  catchallmails x x 0 0
 
Should I increase 
the weight up to say 10?
 
I mean anyone 
sending to an account that does not exist, is more than likely someone spamming 
right?
 
I am starting to 
fiddle with my declude setting rather than fiddling with myself so any ideas on 
this would be welcome.
 
Does any one have 
any sample filter files for these??
 
#FILTER-ADULT  
#FILTER-COUNTRY  #FILTER-FORGED  
#FILTER-MEDICAL
 
Kind thanks in 
advance.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting SMTP connection patterns

2006-10-12 Thread Craig Edmonds
That's why I now use Blackice Server from IIS.

It can detect multiple smtp connections and close ips down automatically.

Its pretty slick.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:24 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting SMTP connection patterns

Yesterday I took a snapshot of the SMTP connections active on our server.  I
then did a reverse IP to find out where they were from.

Below are the results.  You can see someone from Thailand had 5 SMTP
connections active and Spain had 4.  You can also see that only 3 of the IPS
connected were for potentially legitimate email.  We don't get any
legitimate email from other Countries so everything not from the USA would
be spam.

Any idea why a spammer would open more than one SMTP connection?  


202.139.211.241 5   Thailand
88.0.230.26 4   Spain   
71.55.71.1382   USA
87.219.166.92   Spain
213.85.39.108   1   Russian Federation
84.77.107.183   1   Spain
83.131.106.234  1   Croatia
84.61.135.611   Germany
83.84.74.2191   Netherlands 
90.9.36.180 1   France
83.167.108.79   1   Russian Federation
67.172.162.33   1   USA
84.54.248.961   Russian Federation
86.75.242.215   1   France
201.208.171.250 1   Venezuela
88.204.240.177  1   Kazakstan
82.158.0.2371   Spain
69.30.246.125   1   USA
200.168.86.224  1   Brazil
83.167.108.44   1  Russian Federation
75.41.79.2031   USA
200.206.252.123 1   Brazil
84.60.109.148   1   Germany





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] From: <>

2006-10-12 Thread Craig Edmonds
Oohh oohh I think I know this one!! (courtesy of someone on this list)

You have to be careful, it blocks legit people who forget to put subjects to
so just comment out subject like I have done.

IN C:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail
===
MISCFILTERS HOLD C:\IMAIL\SPOOL\SPAM\MISC-SPAM 

IN C:\IMAIL\Declude\global.cfg
===
MISCFILTERS filter  C:\IMAIL\Declude\Filters\misc-filters.txt
x   0   0

IN C:\IMAIL\Declude\Filters\misc-filters.txt
==
#misc filters

#with blank subject and blank from
HEADERS 30 NOTCONTAINS from:
#HEADERS 30 NOTCONTAINS subject:


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Craig Edmonds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Frederick Samarelli
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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] From: <>

Is there a filer to block these.

From: <>

Fred




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam

2006-10-12 Thread Craig Edmonds



It good to see that other methods work 
too.
 
Unfortunately I myself dont have too much time to fiddle 
with filters so I rely on sniffer, commtouch, declude, invurbl, clam, norton to 
catch all the muck and do it all for me.
 
One thing I will say though, on one server, I disabled 
Sniffer the other day and forgot to turn it back on, so for a few days I was 
receiving image spam and could not figure it out until I realised it was 
disabled. (I have commtouch on the same server btw).
 
As soon as I turned sniffer back on, no more image 
spams.
 
hm. (I dont think commtouch is "that" infalible but it 
does filter quite alot though)
 
I still get a few spam emails through every day despite 
having alot of checks but then again my email has been around a few years but 
many of my clients have noticeed a huge reduction in spam since implementing 
spam checking early last year and the way they thank me is by renewing their 
services promptly.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: 
Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:44 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam

We don't use Commtouch, and do not intend to 
license it.  However, we do not have trouble with image spam leaking 
through our system (still on Declude 1.82, though we do have a valid license and 
SA for 4.x).  Across all hosted domains we get on average two or 
three leakage reports a week.  On our own domains, we see one or two spam 
messages get through per week on average.  So, I'd say our "fidd[ing] with 
filters, weights, and false positives" is working pretty well.
 
Also, I've seen statistics posted 
that indicate Commtouch is not as good as Sniffer at the overall catch 
rate.  As for the statistics you mention, note that one email account or 
one domain is a very poor indicator for performance on a larger cross section of 
domains and users.  Small sample populations have large error 
bars.
 
My initial response was simply to comment on the 
danger of using the filter.  When posting such, it's important to 
indicate exactly what it catches and the danger of using it.  Many might 
have read the posting and thought it would catch image spam, when it really 
catches attached or embedded images, potentially leading to a high number of 
false positives.  While this is useful in a combo test, it should not be 
given any weight individually.  While you do mention keeping the 
weight low, bear in mind that many of us have scaled our weighting system 
differently that the default for more granularity.  Personally, I prefer 
to hold at 100 and scale all tests as a percentage of the hold 
weight.
 
Darin.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: chris 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam


No, I am making the 
assumption you will not have to deal with anymore picture spam if you use 
Commtouch…You can fiddle with filters, weights and false positives if you’d 
like.  I have been an advocate of Commtouch since we starting using it, 
matter of fact I have yet to get two pieces of spam since we started using the 
Gateway w/Commtouch combo.  In four months I have seen just one false 
positive.  Just my observation though!!

 
Chris 

 
 
 
 
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:39 
AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam
 

You're making an assumption that 
everyone uses Commtouch.

Darin.

 

 

- Original Message - 


From: chris 


To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 


Sent: Thursday, 
October 12, 2006 9:15 AM

Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] picture spam

 
Guys, Commtouch hasn’t 
missed any, stop making things hard on 
yourselves…..
 

 
Chris 

 
 
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Scott FisherSent: 
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:17 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam
 

Sorbs-DUL and NJABL Dynablock look 
to be the best. Although they miss lots.

 

5-10's has been 
discontinued.

 

- Original Message - 


  
  From: Dave 
  Marchette 
  
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:53 PM
  
  Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
  
   
  Thanks all for the 
  various suggestions.  Agreed- combo is the way to use that test, for 
  sure.  A bit OT, but what is the popular and accurate DUL database these 
  days?  How accurate is fiveten at DUL lookups?  
  
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Scott FisherSent: 
  Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:49 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
  spam
   
  
  I combo the graphics hit 
  (jpg, gif or png) with:
 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam

2006-10-12 Thread Craig Edmonds



I would tend to agree..195 bucks is not a lot of dough 
really, to stop a good bit of spam.
 
I do alot of hosting and email is kind of a neccessary evil 
but I cost everything out so that the costs related to the email servers are 
dissolved into the hosting profit.
 
Mind you, I have quite alot of "email only" accounts so 
quite a chunk of software licensing gets coveverd by that.
 
A couple of grand is alot to try and dissolve but 195 
bucks, no problem and should not be for a serious business.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chrisSent: Thursday, 
October 12, 2006 4:13 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam


Oops, I meant implement 
this or not..
 

 
Chris 
Asaro
Technical Support 
Engineer
Declude
Your Email 
security is our 
business
866.332.5833  toll 
free978.499.2933  office978.477.8930  e-fax[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.declude.com
 
 
 
 
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chrisSent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:11 
AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam
 
A one time cost of 
195.00 is not a large portion of your revenue and it is your option to not 
implement this or not…
 

 Chris 

 
 
 
 
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus GuflerSent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:57 
AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam
 
...and give a large 
part of our revenue to Commtouch?
 
Provide a feasible way 
to justify the additional costs for our existing customers and service 
contracts! 
THEN we could talk 
about Commtouch.
 
BTW: even if it's hard 
work to maintain a reliable spam filter it's not an impossible thing. years of 
contribution from our own researches, creation of text filters, publication of 
new spam and filter signs, developement of - in declude long time and still 
missing - additional external tests allowed and still allows us to have reliable 
filters and no image spam in my inbox. The question is why Declude has become a 
competitor of our work from what it was some years ago: an excellent tool for us 
admins to do our own hard work.
 
Looking at your pricing 
I can see anywhere limitations based on users. What if I have a single gatewayed 
domain?
 
Markus
 

   
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chrisSent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:15 
  PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
  spam
  Guys, Commtouch 
  hasn’t missed any, stop making things hard on 
  yourselves…..
   
  
   
  Chris 
  
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:17 
  PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
  spam
   
  
  Sorbs-DUL and NJABL Dynablock look 
  to be the best. Although they miss lots.
  
   
  
  5-10's has been 
  discontinued.
  
   
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  

From: Dave Marchette 


To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 


Sent: 
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:53 PM

Subject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] picture spam

 
Thanks all for the 
various suggestions.  Agreed- combo is the way to use that test, for 
sure.  A bit OT, but what is the popular and accurate DUL database 
these days?  How accurate is fiveten at DUL lookups?  

 
 
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Scott FisherSent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:49 
PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] picture 
spam
 

I combo the graphics hit 
(jpg, gif or png) with:

 

1.  bad DNS - None or 
timeout

 

2.  bad language (eastern 
European iso-8859-2) or Cyrillic (koi8-r or iso-8859-5), 
etc

 

3.  
cmdspace

 

4.  good DUL IP 
lists/tests

 

5.  having forged your 
local domain.

 

I still get 5-10 a day. It is a 
pain.

 

 

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: Dave Marchette 
  
  
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:08 PM
  
  Subject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] picture spam
  
   
  Has anyone figured out a 
  reasonable way to use Declude to minimize picture spam?  Sniffer is 
  missing most.  They are sent from fresh hosts, so RBL’s don’t catch 
  them, and there is no target, so INVuribl misses them as well.   
  Associates of ours are using Barracuda to stop most successfully, so it is 
  

[Declude.JunkMail] not sure about total weight

2006-10-09 Thread Craig Edmonds



should this not be a 
weight of 28??
 
The weight of 14 is 
correct but commtouch has also given it a weight of 14, so should that not be a 
weight of 28?
 
X-RBL-Warning: 
WEIGHT10: Weight of 14 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.X-Declude-Sender: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[209.18.102.212]X-Declude-Spoolname: 
D01cb1b300082fcd6.smdX-Declude-RefID: 
str=0001.0A090206.452A018E.007F,ss=3,fgs=0X-Declude-Note: 
###X-Declude-Note: # EMAIL SERVICE BY 123 
MARBELLA INTERNETX-Declude-Note: # SCANNED BY DECLUDE 4.3.7 for spam and 
virusesX-Declude-Note: # THANK YOU FOR USING 123 MARBELLAX-Declude-Note: 
###X-Declude-Note: # SCAN TIME 10:01:29 on 09 
Oct 2006X-Declude-Note: # DIRECTON: incomingX-Declude-Note: # FROM MAIL 
IP: 209.18.102.212X-Declude-Note: # FROM DOMAIN: ev1.netX-Declude-Note: 
# FROM EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude-Note: # 
FROM REVDNS: ironport02.ewr.datapipe.netX-Declude-Note: # DEST EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude-Note: # NO OF RECIPIENTS: 
1X-Declude-Note: # QUEUENAME: D01cb1b300082fcd6.smdX-Declude-Note: # 
ROUTE: CHINA->UNITED STATES->destinationX-Declude-Note: # SPAM WEIGHT: 
14X-Declude-Note: # TESTS FAILED: WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT14 [14], ZEROHOUR 
[14] X-Declude-Note: ###X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Status: UX-UIDL: 
459192760
 
 
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] anyone know what ssdmbs.exe is?

2006-10-05 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi Andrew,
 
I downloaded the FileMon, that works nice but the exe 
called ssdmbs.exe did not appear again and the server started too run perfectly 
again, so I just shelved troubleshooting that in favour of configuring 
black ice server instead, which also rocks btw once its 
configured.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: 
Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:46 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] anyone 
know what ssdmbs.exe is?Sensitivity: 
Confidential

Hey, Craig.
 
Did you resolve this, and what was the 
outcome?
 
Andrew 8)
 
 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:46 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] anyone 
  know what ssdmbs.exe is?Sensitivity: 
  Confidential
  
  Never heard of ssdmbs.exe ...
   
  Search your filesystem for the file and see if the 
  location or right-clicking on it gives you any insight.
   
  I like to use Process Explorer from sysinternals.com for 
  stuff like this. It's like Task Manager but has all the features you 
  wished it had, like right-clicking on the executable, getting properties and 
  seeing the full path to that executable.
   
  I also like their Auto Run to tell me the start location 
  of all the executables (like Startup, autoexec, HKLM...Run and far 
  more).
   
  Of course their Rootkit Explorer is also good; I always 
  find false positives in their "heuristic" type of tests like small differences 
  in memory size allocations.
   
  RegMon and FileMon are invaluable for ferreting out what 
  an executable is doing right now.
   
  All of these tools are free from SysInternals.com (soon 
  to be free downloads from Microsoft.com)
   
  Andrew.
   
   
  


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig 
EdmondsSent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:20 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] anyone 
know what ssdmbs.exe is?Importance: HighSensitivity: 
Confidential

I have a process 
in my server taking up 80% cpu and its called 
ssdmbs.exe.
 
Is this 
something to do with declude?
 
I cant seem to 
end the process either, its says Access Denied.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking these?

2006-10-05 Thread Craig Edmonds




You can purchase a Message Sniffer subscription directly from the ARM Research web site. For 
only $495/year (annual subscription) or $45/mo ( 
monthly subscription) you will receive frequent rule base and software 
updates via Email, personalized support for managing and customizing your rule 
base(s) to fit the needs of your system, and access to any additional services 
and capabilities that are developed while your subscription 
is active. 
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir EidskremSent: 
Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:25 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking 
these?
I am confused.The renewal cost per year is $500 but you can buy a 
monthly subscription for $30 a months?So monthly for $360 a year or yearly 
for $500.Dave Beckstrom wrote: 
Hi John,

Thanks for the info on the monthly.  I didn't know they offered that.  They
charge $500 a year for a renewal.

I own my company so either way the $500 comes out of my pocket.  I spent a
lot of money in the last month, which is why I don't want to spend another
$500 right now.

I'd like to see it made legal to hang anyone caught spamming.  :)

You know what I think is the worst spam?  The political spam.  Any
politician who sends me spam asking me to vote for them is guaranteed that I
will vote against them!



  
  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Doyle
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:38 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking these?

Dave
For goodness sake, call sniffer up, they offer a monthy subscription for I
think less than 30 dollars. Put it on your credit card and get your
company
  
  to reimburse you next month and send them a check for the 12 months and
it's
  
  done. I'd hate to think what's getting though without some sort of added
filter
like sniffer.

John


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking these?


How are you guys blocking something like the spam below?

There is no URL to block on.  They keep bastardizing words in the body of
the email to the point where you can't hardly block based on the content.

What do you guys do with these?



-Original Message-
From: Louis Rubin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:48 AM
To: 
Subject: Chavez accused

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WATCH THIS  S TOCK  GO HIGHER AND RI SE
DON'T M I SS THIS   IN VES TMENT MOMENT, PLACE CRSVF ON THE   RA DAR!!!

About Capital Reserve Canada:
CRC is an oil and gas ser vices comp any based in Edmonton, Alberta.
Through its wholly owned subsidiary, KCP Innovative Services, Inc., CRC
offers technologically tools for use in four areas of the industry.
The first aids in testing & development of newly found resources; another
measure existing wells' productivity; and the third hastens well
abandonment, ensuring compliance with regulatory emission guidelines.
The fourth, through its pro prie tary hardware and software technologies,
is
  
  used to determine the profitability of coal bed methane deposits, which
may
  
  be developed and sold as natural gas.


CRC has a second wholly owned subsidiary, Two Hills Environmental, to
assist
  
  with problem waste from oil & gas companies, and provide undergro und
storage.


ADD THIS GE M TO YOUR  PORTFOLIO  AND WATCH IT TRADE ON THURSDAY,
October
05, 2006 !!
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Start to buy at 10:30 AM , October 05 2006
It will blow up






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer vs. Commtouch

2006-10-04 Thread Craig Edmonds
Title: Message



I am using commtouch for a month or so now and have seen a 
reduction too.
 
You just put a single line in the config file and away you 
go.
 
Not sure if its works with older 
versions.
 
A good combo if you have enough CPU is to have sniffer and 
commtouch running at the same time.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn SchmidtSent: 
Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:19 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer 
vs. Commtouch

 

  
   
  I've been using commtouch for a few weeks now and 
  have noticed a significant reduction in spam.  
   
   
  This is in 
   addition to declude? Does a line get put in the config file to point to 
  this? Does this work with an older version of 
  Declude?
   
  We have noticed a 
  major increase in spam in the last month or so. I was going to upgrade Declude 
  but after seeing the issues here, I've decided against it. Instead, I'd just 
  like to get something in addition.
   
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL Blocking

2006-09-29 Thread Craig Edmonds



A quick polite email to them explaining that the domains 
they were mentioning were in fact valid.
 
They emailed within about an hour.
 
Thanks everyine for their help on this 
one.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave DohertySent: 
Friday, September 29, 2006 4:59 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL 
Blocking

Follow the procedures regarding getting 
yourself de-listed, and be sure you pay strict attention tot he instructions for 
IMail users. It has worked for me several times when I've changed 
IPs.
 
For more info see
http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum@list.ipswitch.com/msg106753.html
 
-Dave Doherty Skywaves, 
Inc. 508-425-7176 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig 
  Edmonds 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:53 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL 
  Blocking
  
  Can anyone help me 
  with this CBL blocking problem/imail?.
   
  Twice today they 
  have blacklisted me and trust me I have done absolutely everything they have 
  said. I have run all the tools they have suggested, my server is patched, I 
  have 3 firewalls yet still they find reason to blacklist.
   
  This is driving me 
  nuts and costing me headaches becasue all my clients emails are 
  bouncing.
   
  This of course 
  translates to thousands of dollars in losses everyday I am 
  blacklisted.
   
  Yes, I am running 
  Imail.
   
  Does anyone have 
  any ideas?
   
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL Blocking

2006-09-29 Thread Craig Edmonds
Thanks Darell and Jay,

I am in contact with CBL now and they have given me 3 days to sort
everything out (how nice of them!!)

Jay, how do I set imail so that it will "only use one helo/ehlo hostname"?

Sorry if its an idiot question but I cant find anything on it.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay
Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:38 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL Blocking
Sensitivity: Confidential

Have you setup iMail so that it will only use one helo/ehlo hostname?

-Jay


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:54 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL Blocking
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Confidential

Can anyone help me with this CBL blocking problem/imail?.
 
Twice today they have blacklisted me and trust me I have done absolutely
everything they have said. I have run all the tools they have suggested, my
server is patched, I have 3 firewalls yet still they find reason to
blacklist.
 
This is driving me nuts and costing me headaches becasue all my clients
emails are bouncing.
 
This of course translates to thousands of dollars in losses everyday I am
blacklisted.
 
Yes, I am running Imail.
 
Does anyone have any ideas?
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: CBL Blocking

2006-09-28 Thread Craig Edmonds



Can anyone help me 
with this CBL blocking problem/imail?.
 
Twice today they 
have blacklisted me and trust me I have done absolutely everything they have 
said. I have run all the tools they have suggested, my server is patched, I have 
3 firewalls yet still they find reason to blacklist.
 
This is driving me 
nuts and costing me headaches becasue all my clients emails are 
bouncing.
 
This of course 
translates to thousands of dollars in losses everyday I am 
blacklisted.
 
Yes, I am running 
Imail.
 
Does anyone have any 
ideas?
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

2006-09-27 Thread Craig Edmonds

Nice!

Thanks Dave.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:58 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Blackice Server Settings

I've gotten some requests to post the information on how to use Blackice
Server to block email harvesting attacks.  So here it is!


Before you install Blackice Server you must turn Data Execution Prevention
OFF on your server.  Blackice and DEP will not coexist.  On your server
right click on "MY COMPUTER" then go to properties and then go to advanced.
Under performance, select the SETTINGS button and then click on the Data
Execution Prevention tab.  If DEP is listed as enabled for anything, remove
it for the listed services.

Next, you can install Blackice.

When you install Blackice server you should install it with the trusting
mode enabled to allow all inbound traffic.  I believe it asks you what you
want when you install Blackice.  I don't recall for sure if it does or not
because it has been several years since I installed it.   If it doesn't ask
you the protection level that you want, after you install blackice you can
go into the GUI and go to the firewall tab and under protection level you
can select "trusting: allow all inbound traffic"

Blackice should run without causing you any trouble so you should have time
to complete the other configuration items.  The whole install and
configuration only took me about 15 minutes.  I installed it on a dedicated
email server.  I don't have any experience with Blackice on a server running
other stuff besides email and webmail.

Also, you can always stop the Blackice service if you hit a problem.
Blackice does its thing by watching traffic across the network card.  If you
stop Blackice then its effectively as if Blackice isn't installed on the
server.  When the service is stopped Blackice is gone and all is back as it
was before. 

Attached is the issuelist.csv file which comes with Blackice server.
Blackice uses this file as a database of different types of attacks.  Line
227 had to be modified to indicate an action of IP|RST.  The IP|RST tells
Blackice to block the IP of the attacker as the action to take.  Ignore the
comments to the far right of line 227.  The comments say to block the
attacker if they attempt to send email to 10 non-existent email addresses
within 120 seconds.  The QTY/Timeframe is actually specified elsewhere.  All
you need to change in this file is to add IP|RST to line 227.  The attached
file already has the change.  It is from the most current version if
Blackice so if you just bought Blackice you can move the attached file into
the Blackice directory and you're good to go.

Next, in the Blackice GUI you'll want to go to the firewall tab and put a
checkmark in front of "Enable Auto Blocking"The GUI updates the
firewall.ini file to tell Blackice that auto-blocking is enabled.  The line
in my firewall.ini is the following:

auto-blocking = enabled, 2000, BIgui

Next, go to the blackice.ini file and manually edit it to add the following
4 lines:


smtp.error.count=6   
smtp.error.interval=30
pam.smtp.error.count=6
pam.error.interval=30


The above settings in blackice.ini tells Blackice that if it detects an
attempt to send to 6 non-existent email addresses within 30 seconds then it
should activate the Email_Error action in line 227 of issuelist.csv.  We set
the action to be IP|RST (in issuelist.csv) which specifies that the IP
should be blocked.  So if the QTY/Timeframe is met, the IP is blocked.  The
block of the IP will automatically go away after a specified time.  This is
good because an IP is never permanently blocked forever.  

I believe the IP is removed from the blocklist after 24 hours.  I have to
find where you specify the length of time that the IP should remain blocked.
I'll post that when I find it.  

Also, on those 4 config lines above you can obviously choose how aggressive
you want to be at blocking email harvesting by setting a different
error.count and error.interval.  I figured 6 attempts at bad addresses in 30
seconds was most certainly someone trying to guess email addresses on our
servers.


Another thing that you will want to do is go into the Blackice GUI and go to
the intrusion detection tab.  Here you will want to add your internal and
external IP addresses as ranges of IP addresses that you want to trust.  

If Blackice ever blocks an IP that shouldn't be blocked (say some customer
who isn't well-behaved but who is still a customer), through the GUI you can
right click on your customer's  info in the EVENTS tab and then select the
option to trust and accept them.  This will prevent them from ever being
automatically blocked by Black

[Declude.JunkMail] anyone know what ssdmbs.exe is?

2006-09-26 Thread Craig Edmonds



I have a process in 
my server taking up 80% cpu and its called ssdmbs.exe.
 
Is this something to 
do with declude?
 
I cant seem to end 
the process either, its says Access Denied.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Analyzing junkmail log files

2006-09-20 Thread Craig Edmonds
I also use baretailpro from baremetalsoft.com to look at log files.

When the server is getting "peaky" its excellent for looking at logs "on the
fly" because you can tell it to highlight certain keyword.

They do a couple of versions. A free version and a pro version.

The free version is okay but the paid version is better as you can quickly
filter the log files based on keywords and its very quick even with my 100MB
+ log files.

Soneone on this forum put me onto it.

You can analyse any kind of log file with it btw.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:33 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Analyzing junkmail log files

Karl, 

I would recommend DLAnalyzer - (since its our product).  It can process both
virus and junkmail logs, process multiple days, process multiple servers,
email capability, as well as providing all types of reports.  It is
compatible with past and current versions of Declude. 

Here is a link to all the reports.
http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/reportsamples.htm 

We also have a "free" version that covers the basic features you were used
to with Delog. 

Darrell
 ---
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail,
mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 

 

Karl Hentschel writes: 

> Up until upgrading from Declude 2.06 to 3.11 I had been using delog 1.08b
> from imagefxonline for analyzing my junkmail log files. After the upgrade
it
> no longer works. Delog was a simple tool that emailed me daily and gave
> statistics for all the tests. From this I could determine which were the
> most effective. Does anybody have a suggestion for a replacement program
to
> analyze junkmail log files that can email the results automatically. Which
> program has been the must successful? Or has anyone been successful using
> delog with declude 3.11?  
> 
> Thanks 
> 
>  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Analyzing junkmail log files

2006-09-20 Thread Craig Edmonds
Yeah I have the DLAnalyser on two mail servers and its also a decent
product.

It automatically emails me a nice html report each day showing all spam and
virus activity for the previous day.

Nice one Darrell.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:33 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Analyzing junkmail log files

Karl, 

I would recommend DLAnalyzer - (since its our product).  It can process both
virus and junkmail logs, process multiple days, process multiple servers,
email capability, as well as providing all types of reports.  It is
compatible with past and current versions of Declude. 

Here is a link to all the reports.
http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/reportsamples.htm 

We also have a "free" version that covers the basic features you were used
to with Delog. 

Darrell
 ---
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail,
mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 

 

Karl Hentschel writes: 

> Up until upgrading from Declude 2.06 to 3.11 I had been using delog 1.08b
> from imagefxonline for analyzing my junkmail log files. After the upgrade
it
> no longer works. Delog was a simple tool that emailed me daily and gave
> statistics for all the tests. From this I could determine which were the
> most effective. Does anybody have a suggestion for a replacement program
to
> analyze junkmail log files that can email the results automatically. Which
> program has been the must successful? Or has anyone been successful using
> delog with declude 3.11?  
> 
> Thanks 
> 
>  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-20 Thread Craig Edmonds
I just bought it and installed it one of my mail servers and its pretty
good.

Worth 300 bucks.

Easy install easy to configure.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn \
WCNet
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:15 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

How tricky is it to configure this?  Current price I find is $300.

G.Z.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike


I run Blackice Server on the mail server.  It drops the connecting IP if we
receive more than a user specified number of attempts for non-existent email
addresses within a user specified time limit.  It then blocks that IP for a
user specified amount of time before removing the block.

It prevents email address harvesting from our server.

Not bad for a product that cost about $200 if I recall correctly.

A side benefit is that it stores a text file with the hostname/IP address in
a folder for every blocked IP.  Over time, I can see patterns and
permanently block those IP ranges in my firewall if I so desire.



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Anton
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:02 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike
>
> Darrell, We are averaging 40 to 50% on the processor.  I was just
surprised because
> in 3 years we haven't seen a spike this large.  Most of them are
dictionary style.  But
> since they aren't from the same IP, I don't think the imail 2006
dictionary feature
> would help us. Thoughts?
>
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

2006-09-19 Thread Craig Edmonds
 
Hi Chris,

You should also consider using declude hijack even though that only catches
spammers using the smtp server. It only takes 1 idiot client to make the
password easy to guess and bang, spammer sits and uses your server without
you really knowing until you get blacklisted. 

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Spike

Comment's inline, 

Darrell 

Chris Anton writes: 

> 1) Has anyone experienced recent spikes like this? How can I reasonably
>handle this?

Yes, we have very often see signifigant swings in spam.  How to handle it is
a good question.  That typically depends on what the spam campaign is.  We
have found recipient address validation helps the most.  We than do analysis
(using DLAnalyzer IP reports) and find the IP addresses who send the most
spam and block those. 


> I have run several analytics and found that these emails are not targeting
> a specific user or specific domain.  Additionally, there are no blocks of
> IPs that are responsible.

Is it spam going to valid users?  Or just your generic dictionary attacks? 


> 2) What are the realistic limits of Imail / Declude / Message Sniffer (I
>KNOW this is platform specific, just looking for ballpark).
> 3) What can I do to squeze out more juice from this server?
> Software: IMail 8.22 (because we are still scared of 2006), Declude 
> Virus >and Junkmail 2.0.6, and Sniffer most recent version
> Hardware: Windows Server 2003 box with a 3 ghz XEON, and 1 Gig ram.  

On some of the server I maintain we are doing 150K messages a day on a dual
xeon 2.6ghz.  With no issues (invURIBL, Sniffer). 

What is your current CPU usage like? 

Darrell 

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: pgp in emails - can you read my emails?

2006-09-14 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi 
All,
 
Some clients have 
voiced some concern over the ability of me and my team having access to their 
mail whilst it passes through my mail network.
 
Of course, I dont 
engage in reading peoples emails whilst performing email administration but 
nevertheless the opportunity is there and we do have access to 
it.
 
I have been reading 
a little about PGP in relation to email and it looks like they (the clients) 
have to make the effort to secure their mail on their computer first before 
sending.
 
Is there any 
guidance/tips/wording I can give my clients to give them the option to make 
thier emails secure?
 
Is there a solution 
out their I can enable server side which automatically encrypts incoming 
emails?
 
If emails are 
encryypted, can declude filter them?
 
How does everyone 
else answer the question of "can you read my emails 
question"?
 
I am using IMAIL, 
WIN 2003, Declude 4.3.7 if thats any help.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Newest version

2006-09-11 Thread Craig Edmonds
Title: Message



and dont forget to back up your old declude files in 
case.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch AndrewsSent: 
Monday, September 11, 2006 5:07 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Newest 
version

My advice, since I just did the upgrade from the same version, is to call 
support and have them talk you through the update. They will do this since there 
are many changes between the two versions
-Butch*** REPLY SEPARATOR 
***On 9/11/2006 at 10:43 AM Sharyn Schmidt wrote:

  I am 
  running 2.06.
   
  Yeah, I know, really outdated.
   
  I 
  have a current service agreement, but for the life of me, I can't figure out 
  where to download the latest version from the declude 
site.
   
  Guess I haven't done this in a really long time.
   
   
  

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
FisherSent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:29 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Newest version
I don't think there are any significant 
anti-spam advances in the new Declude base product.
 
Declude added the CommTouch addon.
Or look at INVURIBL (cheapest solution) or 
Message Sniffer.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

2006-09-09 Thread Craig Edmonds



Jo,
 
I am nearing the end of a 20 hour day and dont have much 
left in me right now.
 
I have nothing against you and I will forgive your attempt 
to make me look silly by calling me argumentative and nothing to offer paying 
declude customers as well as saying I am thick by assuming I "missed the point" 
and accusing me of not having a clue in the world.
 
No harm done 
mate.
 
For your info, I have managed to make myself look silly on 
many occasions on this forum with the daft Imail/declude questions, so I am in 
need of no assistance in that area, but thanks anyway.
 
Something I will not do is feel sorry for myself and tell 
everyone about it and by painting good people's names in black, like Evans has 
done this week to Declude.
 
If he has got a gripe and wants revenge, he should create 
his own forum/blog and talk about it there, not on this forum where PAYING 
CUSTOMERS ARE.
 
If he wants to be proactive and contribute to the forum in 
a postive way, then by all means but if he is going to bring a postive slant to 
the whole thing, then he should just piss right off and leave us all alone to 
concentrate on running our successful businesses.
 
I am allowed to say that right? The piss off bit I mean. At 
the end of the day its my opinon right?
 
Craig Edmonds123 Marbella 
InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe RaykiewiczSent: 
Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:33 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module
Well craig, it seems you missed the 
point.  I was simply trying to show you how silly you look for requesting 
someone to be removed from the list.It has been my exprience that this 
list works well because you have people that point out both the negative and the 
positive.  If I follow your logic you seem to think that if I don't know 
there is a problem then there is no problem.  That doesn't work in my 
world.  I want to know the good the bad and the ugly.People always 
have differing opinions of everything.  Without that we have hitler's dream 
world.  Without that we only have 1/4th of the knowledge that we need to 
make sound decisions.Let Evans say what he wants.  I find it 
informative.  What makes me anymore right than you or vice 
versa?Joe

From: "Craig Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: 
Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:04 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module Yeah right, 
Joseph.Unlike Evans, I pay declude several thousand dollars a year for 
my decludelicenses, and am absolutely thrilled with the declude product, no 
complaintshere, it works great, its cut out nearly all the spam my 5,000 + 
email usersused to get before. In addition, the declude customer 
support has been first class and I havebeen treated like a king by the new 
management team, probably becauserespect works both ways.There are a 
few people out there though who were unhappy with Barry's"departure" because 
it affected their pricing and continue to moan andcomplain and find things 
wrong with the product. I would say, based on Evanspostings that he is 
certainly one of them and because he cant get his way,is just finding things 
to pick on.Evans actually admits that he is not a declude client anymore 
but continuesto post anti declude propoganda on this forum which I think 
every payingdeclude client will agree is completely unneccessary and 
uncalled for.Sure, I could just ignore his rantings and moaning but its 
not fair to allpaying declude customers which includes myself. So, 
ummm, my contribution to paying customers in this forum, is that I amone. 
As for being argumentative, then abso-f*cking-lutely mate. You are spot 
onthere. I will argue and debate until the cows come home on a hot topic 
suchas this.This forum is not for slagging declude off which is what 
Evans is doing, itsfor discussing and arguing the finer points of the 
product in order to helpdeclude themselves make it a better 
product.Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: 
www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original 
Message-From: Joseph Raykiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:00 PMTo: Craig EdmondsSubject: RE: 
[Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new casemanagement 
modulecan someone remove craig from this list?his posts are 
purely argumentative and offer nothing useful to help out adeclude 
customer.thanks--From:"Craig 
Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date:9/9/2006 04:12 AM Nice 
reply.You just made yourself look like a complete and utter 
muppet.Yes, I "was" a customer.I rest my 
case.hahahaha.Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 Marbella 
InternetW: www.123marbella.com E 
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]_ From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

2006-09-09 Thread Craig Edmonds
Yeah right, Joseph.

Unlike Evans, I pay declude several thousand dollars a year for my declude
licenses, and am absolutely thrilled with the declude product, no complaints
here, it works great, its cut out nearly all the spam my 5,000 + email users
used to get before. 

In addition, the declude customer support has been first class and I have
been treated like a king by the new management team, probably because
respect works both ways.

There are a few people out there though who were unhappy with Barry's
"departure" because it affected their pricing and continue to moan and
complain and find things wrong with the product. I would say, based on Evans
postings that he is certainly one of them and because he cant get his way,
is just finding things to pick on.

Evans actually admits that he is not a declude client anymore but continues
to post anti declude propoganda on this forum which I think every paying
declude client will agree is completely unneccessary and uncalled for.

Sure, I could just ignore his rantings and moaning but its not fair to all
paying declude customers which includes myself. 

So, ummm, my contribution to paying customers in this forum, is that I am
one. 

As for being argumentative, then abso-f*cking-lutely mate. You are spot on
there. I will argue and debate until the cows come home on a hot topic such
as this.

This forum is not for slagging declude off which is what Evans is doing, its
for discussing and arguing the finer points of the product in order to help
declude themselves make it a better product.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Joseph Raykiewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:00 PM
To: Craig Edmonds
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module

can someone remove craig from this list?

his posts are purely argumentative and offer nothing useful to help out a
declude customer.

thanks


 

 
------
From:"Craig Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:9/9/2006 04:12 AM 
 

Nice reply.
 
You just made yourself look like a complete and utter muppet.
 
Yes, I "was" a customer.
 
I rest my case.
 
hahahaha.
 
Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com <http://www.123marbella.com/> E :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans
Martin
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module






You know, Craig, you were a customer of mine as recently as February when
you ordered IPlus Info Browser from my website.  You would think that a
person who used to write software in support of this bunch of clowns MIGHT
just have some insight into the direction that these companies are taking.
I HAVE talked to MOST of the leaders of both Declude & IPSwitch and
expressed my concern with their direction and have been told that it is in
the best interest of the company to do that which I perceived as screwing
their existing customer base.  They made a choice.


 


They're soaking you!  They're bleeding you for ever penny and offering up
software that just doesn't do the job as well as it used to because they are
more concerned about the bottom line than they are about writing quality
software anymore.  When the user community is crying out for one feature and
they deliver something completely different, it is obvious that they just
don't care about my business or yours anymore.  When the same bug hangs
around for two years and doesn't get fixed that bugs me.  When they jack the
price up so high that it runs the little guy right out of business, it
concerns me.  Doesn't that offend you in the least little bit?


 


If you want to call me a muppet and demand that I be removed from this list
for that reason than so be it but I think you're the one being the muppet.
Why don't you lighten up and allow others to express their opinions without
your BS threats.  After all, that's what a forum is all about.  If an
announce list is what you want, why don't you be our leader and start by
unsubscribing yourself.


 


Evans Martin


 


 


 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig
Edmonds
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:36 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module
Importance: High


 


Can someone please remove this absolute muppet from this newsgroup?


 


Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
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E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans
Martin
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

2006-09-09 Thread Craig Edmonds



Nice reply.
 
You just made yourself look like a complete and utter 
muppet.
 
Yes, I "was" a customer.
 
I rest my case.
 
hahahaha.
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: 
Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:34 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module


You know, Craig, you 
were a customer of mine as recently as February when you ordered IPlus Info 
Browser from my website.  You would think that a person who used to write 
software in support of this bunch of clowns MIGHT just have some insight into 
the direction that these companies are taking.  I HAVE talked to MOST of 
the leaders of both Declude & IPSwitch and expressed my concern with their 
direction and have been told that it is in the best interest of the company to 
do that which I perceived as screwing their existing customer base.  They 
made a choice.
 
They’re soaking 
you!  They’re bleeding you for ever penny and offering up software that 
just doesn’t do the job as well as it used to because they are more concerned 
about the bottom line than they are about writing quality software 
anymore.  When the user community is crying out for one feature and they 
deliver something completely different, it is obvious that they just don’t care 
about my business or yours anymore.  When the same bug hangs around for two 
years and doesn’t get fixed that bugs me.  When they jack the price up so 
high that it runs the little guy right out of business, it concerns me.  
Doesn’t that offend you in the least little bit?
 
If you want to call me 
a muppet and demand that I be removed from this list for that reason than so be 
it but I think you’re the one being the muppet.  Why don’t you lighten up 
and allow others to express their opinions without your BS threats.  After 
all, that’s what a forum is all about.  If an announce list is what you 
want, why don’t you be our leader and start by unsubscribing 
yourself.
 
Evans 
Martin
 
 
 





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:36 
PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management moduleImportance: High
 
Can someone please 
remove this absolute muppet from this newsgroup?

 
Kindest RegardsCraig 
Edmonds123 Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:40 
PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module
Wow!  Yet another company 
goes the way of IPSwitch.  I'm so glad that I found ASSP.  I just wish 
I hadn't wasted all that money and time on Declude.Does anyone want to 
buy my company and run off all of my customers?  I'm beginning to feel like 
I need to go back to business school.  Maybe I have missed the bus 
somewhere since it seems to be the way of thing among mid-sized technology based 
companies.  Help!Evans Martin



From: "Gerry 
Comeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:16 
AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module 
Valued customers,I made the decision to suspend the acceptance 
of cases via email([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The email function will continue to 
be availableuntil we're ready to "flip the switch". The reply you receive 
after yousend an email to the support address was modified in an attempt to 
educateyou that change was in the air. The date of August 28th was published 
andit's obviously wrong. That was the planned date. You will have 
adequatewarning before we make the change. Additionally, you'll continue to 
receiveemail notices from case submissions via the web.I'd like to 
say, in closing, that one of the goals of this change is toensure we're 
supporting our paying customers. Let's say you're a payingcustomer and 
you're unable to get our attention and unbeknown to you we'reworking with 
customers that have expired agreements or general salesquestions, I don't 
think you'd like that, I wouldn't. Another goal is totrack the number of 
cases, the time it takes to solve and case patterns.This data will be used 
for staffing purposes as well as informing ProductMarketing of what we see 
as new feature/functionality items. Naturally,bugs will be expedited to 
Engineering, another benefit of using the CRMsystem as they will be using 
the same case management tool. Lastly we willbe implementing a severity and 
priority process to ensure the inbound webcases are treated on a FIFO and 
severity/priority basis. If you have asituation that can't wait, please use 
the phone. My apologies for the length of this message, however I do 
think yo

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

2006-09-08 Thread Craig Edmonds



Can someone please remove this absolute muppet from this 
newsgroup?
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: 
Friday, September 08, 2006 7:40 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module
Wow!  Yet another company goes the 
way of IPSwitch.  I'm so glad that I found ASSP.  I just wish I hadn't 
wasted all that money and time on Declude.Does anyone want to buy my 
company and run off all of my customers?  I'm beginning to feel like I need 
to go back to business school.  Maybe I have missed the bus somewhere since 
it seems to be the way of thing among mid-sized technology based 
companies.  Help!Evans Martin

From: "Gerry Comeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, 
September 08, 2006 8:16 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module Valued 
customers,I made the decision to suspend the acceptance of cases via 
email([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The email function will continue to be 
availableuntil we're ready to "flip the switch". The reply you receive after 
yousend an email to the support address was modified in an attempt to 
educateyou that change was in the air. The date of August 28th was published 
andit's obviously wrong. That was the planned date. You will have 
adequatewarning before we make the change. Additionally, you'll continue to 
receiveemail notices from case submissions via the web.I'd like to 
say, in closing, that one of the goals of this change is toensure we're 
supporting our paying customers. Let's say you're a payingcustomer and 
you're unable to get our attention and unbeknown to you we'reworking with 
customers that have expired agreements or general salesquestions, I don't 
think you'd like that, I wouldn't. Another goal is totrack the number of 
cases, the time it takes to solve and case patterns.This data will be used 
for staffing purposes as well as informing ProductMarketing of what we see 
as new feature/functionality items. Naturally,bugs will be expedited to 
Engineering, another benefit of using the CRMsystem as they will be using 
the same case management tool. Lastly we willbe implementing a severity and 
priority process to ensure the inbound webcases are treated on a FIFO and 
severity/priority basis. If you have asituation that can't wait, please use 
the phone. My apologies for the length of this message, however I do 
think you'reentitled to why we're making the change as well as components of 
the near tolong term support plan.Regards,Gerry Comeau 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
GarySteinerSent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new casemanagement moduleIt's a catch-22. 
You send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get a replyback saying that 
they will no longer pay attention to messages sent 
to[EMAIL PROTECTED]What does it mean when customers have to try 
to get in touch with Declude sothat they "flip the switch" so that the 
customer can get in touch withDeclude? Original Message 
> From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 PM> To: 
declude.junkmail@declude.com> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new casemanagement module> > Then I 
would contact customer service to have them flip the switch so you> can 
place support tickets.> > > Kevin> > > 
-Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Gary Steiner> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:17 PM> > To: 
declude.junkmail@declude.com> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new > > case management module> > 
> > > > Interesting. If I log in to my account on the 
Declude web > > site, there is no option listed for the new CRM 
module. It > > is not that it is grayed out as described below. It 
just > > isn't there. And I do have a current service 
agreement.> > > > So, since according to this message we can 
no longer use > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the supposed new CRM module 
doesn't > > seem to be available, how do we contact Declude 
support?> > > > By the way, the reason I was trying to 
contact Declude > > support is that I was investigating the latest 
all_list.dat > > file, and found that the download link on the Declude 
web > > site is now no longer valid. (The download link for the 
> > Declude GUI didn't work either, as well as the link for the 
> > demo copy of Sniffer.) Seems that when Declude updated their 
> > web site they forgot to check the one thing on the web site 
> > that an existing customer is most likely to use, such as all 
> > their download links.> > > > And they wonder 
why we get upset.> > > > > >  Original 
Message > > 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case management module

2006-09-08 Thread Craig Edmonds
I agree.

Give the guys a break. 

At least you can phone them in the meantime.

There are many other providers I use and they only offer support by online
ticket, no phone, no [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:03 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module

Give them a break they, are switching systems and you have found a
glitch/bug/annoyance. Pick up the phone and call them. They are good people
and will honor your support contract.


Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Gary Steiner
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:46 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> management module
> 
> 
> I saw the phone number in the original message, but that doesn't 
> change the rest of the message.  The point is how can a company whose 
> business is email and the internet exclude all forms of communication 
> except for the telephone?  And even an automated message from their 
> [former] support communication method did not come out and say that.  
> What it says is if you haven't heard from them in 24 hours after you 
> have tried to contact them via the web or email, then call them.  It 
> doesn't say anything about flipping switches.
> 
> If they wish to limit all customer communication to the telephone, 
> then why don't they just come out and say "we refuse to talk to any of 
> our customers unless they call us" ?
>  It is Declude's fault for encouraging us to use email as the primary 
> form of communication all this time, and now arbitrarily cutting it 
> off.
> 
> The real question is when we pay for an annual service contract, 
> exactly what are we getting?  Apparently a lot less than we were 
> receiving before August 28th.
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> > From: "Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:57 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > management module
> > 
> > I think it means you have to pick up the phone and call them.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > management module
> > 
> > It's a catch-22.  You send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> and get a
> > reply back saying that they will no longer pay attention to
> messages
> > sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > What does it mean when customers have to try to get in touch with 
> > Declude so that they "flip the switch" so that the customer
> can get in
> > touch with Declude?
> > 
> > 
> >  Original Message 
> > > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 PM
> > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> versus new case
> > management module
> > > 
> > > Then I would contact customer service to have them flip
> the switch
> > > so
> > you
> > > can place support tickets.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> > > > Of Gary Steiner
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:17 PM
> > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > > > management module
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting.  If I log in to my account on the Declude web site, 
> > > > there is no option listed for the new CRM module.  It is not 
> > > > that it is grayed out as described below.  It just isn't there.  
> > > > And I do have a current service agreement.
> > > > 
> > > > So, since according to this message we can no longer use 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the supposed new CRM module doesn't 
> > > 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] some emails being marked with **spam** despite being authenticated

2006-08-28 Thread Craig Edmonds



Thanks John,
 
I had the log mode set to high, debug seems to show a lot 
more detail.
 
Anything in particular I should look out for? (in debug 
mode the log can chuck out more than 300 lines!!!)
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)Sent: 
Monday, August 28, 2006 7:25 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] some 
emails being marked with **spam** despite being 
authenticatedSensitivity: Confidential


You need to review 
the log lines of a message that was marked, not one that shows 
Whitelisted.
 
Preferably, the log 
should be in debug mode.
 

John 
T
eServices For 
You
 
"Seek, and ye shall 
find!"
 

-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: Monday, August 28, 
2006 9:45 
AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] some emails 
being marked with **spam** despite being authenticatedImportance: HighSensitivity: Confidential
 

Hi All,

 

I have a strange problem with a 
client who has complained that **spam** is being put in the subject line of his 
outgoing emails.

 

A quick check on the server logs 
(the declude logs) confirms that some of his emails are being passed through the 
spam tests and others are being whitelisted becasue he is an authenticated 
user.

 

example (Skipping E-mail from 
authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com; 
whitelisted)

 

I have checked his machine and he 
has everything set up perfectly including smtp authentication 
etc.

 

Why would some email be run through 
declude and other not?

 

I am using IMAIL 8.11, Declude 4 
(security suite)

 
Kindest RegardsCraig 
Edmonds123 Marbella 
InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] some emails being marked with **spam** despite being authenticated

2006-08-28 Thread Craig Edmonds



I am watching the declude logs very closely and there 
are alot of local users being passed through the spam filter when they should 
really be whitelisted, especially if I have SMTP UATH turned on and no mail 
relay.
 
Have I missed something?
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.comE : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent: 
Monday, August 28, 2006 6:45 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] some emails 
being marked with **spam** despite being authenticatedImportance: 
HighSensitivity: Confidential

Hi 
All,
 
I have a strange 
problem with a client who has complained that **spam** is being put in the 
subject line of his outgoing emails.
 
A quick check on the 
server logs (the declude logs) confirms that some of his emails are being passed 
through the spam tests and others are being whitelisted becasue he is an 
authenticated user.
 
example (Skipping 
E-mail from authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com; 
whitelisted)
 
I have checked his 
machine and he has everything set up perfectly including smtp authentication 
etc.
 
Why would some email 
be run through declude and other not?
 
I am using IMAIL 
8.11, Declude 4 (security suite)
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] some emails being marked with **spam** despite being authenticated

2006-08-28 Thread Craig Edmonds



Hi 
All,
 
I have a strange 
problem with a client who has complained that **spam** is being put in the 
subject line of his outgoing emails.
 
A quick check on the 
server logs (the declude logs) confirms that some of his emails are being passed 
through the spam tests and others are being whitelisted becasue he is an 
authenticated user.
 
example (Skipping 
E-mail from authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mydomain.com; 
whitelisted)
 
I have checked his 
machine and he has everything set up perfectly including smtp authentication 
etc.
 
Why would some email 
be run through declude and other not?
 
I am using IMAIL 
8.11, Declude 4 (security suite)
 
Kindest RegardsCraig Edmonds123 
Marbella InternetW: www.123marbella.com
 
 

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RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo.com Resources temporarily unavailable

2006-08-08 Thread Craig Edmonds




Not sure if this is any help, but if its cdonts mail that's going out and
getting bounced you will also need to set the FQDNS within the IIS cdonts
advanced delivery panel with the same domain you have in your reverse dns
pointing back to your server sending the cdonts mail out.

So if your ip for your cdonts service is 55.66.77.88 then you need to have a
reverse dns entry called something like cdonts1.yourdomain.com with the
above ip, then you put that domain in the FQDNS settings.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don
Schreiner
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo.com Resources temporarily
unavailable

Thanks to all for the replies. I use Enom registrar for customer domains and
their DNS tools. Instead of DNS MX setting to the simple IP (65.57.241.194)
of the email server, if I change to the MX to the hostname of the server
(sneezy.xerocom.net) would this solve this roundtrip failure issue and still
using Virtual domain name for holisticmoms.org under IMail? Thanks.

-Don

Don Schreiner
CompBiz, Inc.
www.CompBiz.net
407-322-8654

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanford
Whiteman
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:33 PM
To: William Stillwell
Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo.com Resources temporarily
unavailable

> Set the MX to point to the server reported by the HELO statement

> Holisticmoms.org MX sneezy.xerocom.net

That doesn't solve the roundtrip failure.

If   the   receiving   server   checks  the  roundtrip,  it  needs  an
IP-PTR-HELO-A sync. It doesn't care what the MX is for the purposes of that
test.

--Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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