RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
The sign*.def files have been updated to:

05/02/2005  11:46 PM

Which I'm pretty sure is UTC. However, these still have the
false-positive.  As of this writing, I've received no reply to my ticket
with F-Prot.

Andrew 8)


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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


F-Prot may have pulled the latest defs do to the number of complaints
received, which could explain why the app reports that you have the
latest version.

Bill
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From: "Kevin Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


> I also filled out the form at FProt's site.  Thanks for the defs.  
> When I open up FProt, though, it says that my defs are up-to-date, 
> even though I replaced the newest ones with the ones that you sent.  I

> hope that that message indicates whether we've downloaded the latest -

> not whether we are actually using the latest defs.
>
>
>
> Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
>
> >I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file.
> >
> >I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def 
> >from
> >
> >05/02/2005  01:32 PM
> >
> >And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like 
> >to supply them with several samples.
> >
> >I've also played around with the switch settings and found that there

> >are no relevant switches that can be used as a workaround (i.e. "/ai"

> >"/noheur" and "/server" make no difference in the detection or not of

> >this false-positive).
> >
> >All of the messages detected either had Office 10 or Office 11 
> >headers or were replies to messages created with Office 10 or Office 
> >11.
> >
> >Andrew 8)
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:10 PM
> >To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> >Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> >
> >
> >Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
> >
> >I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current 
> >logfile, but I've still running 3.16a
> >
> >Markus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
> >>Tolmachoff (Lists)
> >>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
> >>To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> >>Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> >>
> >>It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. 
> >>Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged by F-Prot as 
> >>having the HTML object exploit. Running the file on 
> >>www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> >>
> >>Any one else seeing problems?
> >>
> >>For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning 
> >>relying on AVG.
> >>
> >>John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Douglas Cohn
Or even allowed on a list

What many lists I belong to help avoid this is disallow any reposting of the
footers.  That way an automated process like this would never get through.
It requires the users posting, us, to cut off the footers manually but that
keeps the lists mean and lean.  Initially I hated it but they are right.
They do not allow HTML and they allow no footers and it works well.

Jpsoft.com is one such list

DFC 

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Hahaha.. Yeah, I agree.


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I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
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Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> We  have  been  running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for
> over  a  year  but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.
> What do others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?

I've  been  finding  BitDefender to have a very reliable auto-updater,
which  is  obviously  not  the case with F-Prot, and its catch rate is
slightly  better.  Using  Bill  Landry's  virus.cfg  hints, I recently
switched all of our managed boxes to at least BitDefender (BitDefender
+ F-Prot if running Pro).

However,  BDC.EXE  is  very  CPU-hungry -- I won't deny it. I have the
luxury  of  multiproc  boxes, lots of links in the SMTP chain, etc. If
you're  running  everything  on  a  single  box,  or  have  endangered
resources, be careful.

--Sandy



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Goran Jovanovic
I also started catching them at 16:21 Eastern Time Scanner 1 is FPROT

05/02/2005 16:21:48 Q8BBB4614012AF05F Scanner 1: Virus= W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Attachment=account_info.zip [2] O
05/02/2005 16:21:49 Q8BBB4614012AF05F Scanner 2: Virus= the
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment=account_info.zip [2] O

I have the same defs as Bonno

> SIGN.DEF 2-may-2005, 13:32
> SIGN2.DEF 2-may-2005, 16:46
> Using f-prot 3.16b 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:36 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
through...
> 
> F-Prot Seems to be catching it now as
> 
> X-Declude-Virus: Detected  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Chuck Schick
> Warp 8, Inc.
> (303)-421-5140
> www.warp8.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
> (Lists)
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:55 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
through...
> 
> 
> Mine has the 01:32 PM time stamp and the last update time was at 10:00
AM
> which is after when I saw the problem, so I would have to say the
01:32
> time
> stamp is the problem one.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:38 AM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
> > through...
> >
> > F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current
sign.def
> > is timestamped:
> >
> > 05/02/2005  03:53 AM
> >
> > and checking their website and downloading the current version
> > manually shows that the current version is:
> >
> > 05/02/2005  01:32 PM
> >
> > Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
> > that has the problem?
> >
> > Andrew 8)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
> > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
> > through...
> >
> >
> > Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV
> > (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
> > (although I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get
there
> > problem with
> > HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
> >
> > Bill
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
> > through...
> >
> >
> > >I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
> > >extensions.
> > >
> > > John T
> > > eServices For You
> > >
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
> > >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
> > >> To: Declude. Virus
> > >> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
through...
> > >>
> > >> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have
> > >> viruses
> >
> > >> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
> > > encrypted
> > >> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this
> > >> behavior? Here is part of the log.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip
> > >> [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21
> > >> Q568a382
> > >> Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
> > >>
> > >> Chuck Schick
> > >> Warp 8, Inc.
> > >> (303)-421-5140
> > >> www.warp8.com
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Jonathan
I've found several bugs in the win32 implementations of ClamAV (some 
really ugly stuff), but none that really effect the scanning of viruses. 
Since that post was made, I think it's safe to say that ClamAV has made 
a bit of headway on performance. I'd be interested in seeing a head to 
head comparison again, but my light testing now showed it to scan a 
0.10MB file in about 0.52seconds.

I do like the fact that it has a nice, clean, fast updater as well .. no 
goofy stuff to work around, and no need to hack out a script.

Jonathan
Matt wrote:
Chuck,
Search the archives for "scanner efficiency olympics".  It's a year 
old now, and I was primarily focused on performance instead of 
accuracy.  F-Prot is the king of speed, however it seems to have 
several hiccups each year, and there seems to be a slew of different 
things happening lately.  I think it is good to pair F-Prot with 
another scanner, but that requires Declude Virus Pro.  If I was going 
to choose one scanner and had plenty of spare CPU, I would probably 
choose McAfee based on accuracy and speed combined, but as Nick 
indicated, it is hard to purchase unless you want a full network 
installation.

Matt

Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
Matt posted the authoritative roundup in a head to head comparison when
he revamped his Declude Virus setup.
Unless he chimes in here with an updated answer, the answer is somewhere
in the archives.
Andrew 8)
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:03 PM
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative
We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a
year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.  What do
others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?
Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't have any samples of the latest Sober, but *if* you're using the
penultimate pattern file for F-Prot and have your auto-update disabled,
then according to the writeups, either of these two techniques in your
virus.cfg will keep this specific virus out of your user's mailboxes:

BANEXT PIF
BANZIPEXTS ON

or

BANNAME account_info.zip
BANNAME autoemail-text.zip
BANNAME LOL.zip
BANNAME Fifa_Info-Text.zip
BANNAME mail_info.zip
BANNAME okTicket-info.zip
BANNAME our_secret.zip
BANNAME _PassWort-Info.zip

Andrew 8)

p.s. Now, back to the day job, already!


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Subject: Fw: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


Hi,

Oops, correct that. F-prot is catching it as Sober.O, Sophos is still
not 
catching it. :-(

Sure glad I'm using two scanners. ;-)

> As of now I'm still getting hit by a virus with attachments like our _
> secret . zip which Sophos catches as Sober.O.
>
> Ff-prot is still nopt catching them and there is as of yet no update. 
> Just
> did a manual update and no new version. I'm at:
> SIGN.DEF 2-may-2005, 13:32 CET
> SIGN2.DEF 2-may-2005, 16:46 CET
> Using f-prot 3.16b

Groetjes,


 Bonno Bloksma

> - Original Message -
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
through...
>
>
> F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def

> is timestamped:
>
> 05/02/2005  03:53 AM
>
> and checking their website and downloading the current version 
> manually shows that the current version is:
>
> 05/02/2005  01:32 PM
>
> Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using 
> that has the problem?
>
> Andrew 8)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting 
> through...
>
>
> Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV 
> (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot 
> (although I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there

> problem with
> HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
>
> Bill
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting
through...
>
>
>>I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip 
>>extensions.
>>
>> John T
>> eServices For You
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
>>> To: Declude. Virus
>>> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
>>>
>>> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have 
>>> viruses
>
>>> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
>> encrypted
>>> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this 
>>> behavior? Here is part of the log.
>>>
>>>
>>> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip 
>>> [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382
>>> Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
>>>
>>> Chuck Schick
>>> Warp 8, Inc.
>>> (303)-421-5140
>>> www.warp8.com
>>>
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Matt
Chuck,
Search the archives for "scanner efficiency olympics".  It's a year old 
now, and I was primarily focused on performance instead of accuracy.  
F-Prot is the king of speed, however it seems to have several hiccups 
each year, and there seems to be a slew of different things happening 
lately.  I think it is good to pair F-Prot with another scanner, but 
that requires Declude Virus Pro.  If I was going to choose one scanner 
and had plenty of spare CPU, I would probably choose McAfee based on 
accuracy and speed combined, but as Nick indicated, it is hard to 
purchase unless you want a full network installation.

Matt

Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
Matt posted the authoritative roundup in a head to head comparison when
he revamped his Declude Virus setup.
Unless he chimes in here with an updated answer, the answer is somewhere
in the archives.
Andrew 8)
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:03 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative
We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a
year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.  What do
others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?
Chuck Schick
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[Declude.Virus] AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/Sober.p@MM

2005-05-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 04:36 PM
Subject: AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Advisory
This is a Medium Threat Advisory for W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] for Home Users Only.

Justification
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been deemed Medium due to prevalence. 

Read About It
Information about W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is located on VIL at:
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/content/v_133409.htm

Detection
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] was first discovered on 05/02/2005 and has been 
proactively
detected since at least DAT version 4443.  Specific detection and improved
repair will be added to the 4482 dat files (Release Date: 05/02/2005).
EXTRA.DATs are not necessary to be protected from this threat. 

If you suspect you have W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED], please submit a sample to
http://www.webimmune.net.

Risk Assessment Definition
For further information on the Risk Assessment and AVERT Recommended Actions
please see: 
http://www.mcafeesecurity.com/us/security/resources/risk_assessment.htm


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Fw: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,
Oops, correct that. F-prot is catching it as Sober.O, Sophos is still not 
catching it. :-(

Sure glad I'm using two scanners. ;-)
As of now I'm still getting hit by a virus with attachments like our _ 
secret . zip which Sophos catches as Sober.O.

Ff-prot is still nopt catching them and there is as of yet no update. Just 
did a manual update and no new version. I'm at:
SIGN.DEF 2-may-2005, 13:32 CET
SIGN2.DEF 2-may-2005, 16:46 CET
Using f-prot 3.16b
Groetjes,
Bonno Bloksma
- Original Message - 
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def
is timestamped:
05/02/2005  03:53 AM
and checking their website and downloading the current version manually
shows that the current version is:
05/02/2005  01:32 PM
Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
that has the problem?
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV
(Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
(although
I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem
with
HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
extensions.
John T
eServices For You

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses

attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
encrypted
zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this
behavior? Here is part of the log.
05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip
[base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382
Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
Chuck Schick
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,
As of now I'm still getting hit by a virus with attachments like our _ 
secret . zip which Sophos catches as Sober.O.

Ff-prot is still nopt catching them and there is as of yet no update. Just 
did a manual update and no new version. I'm at:
SIGN.DEF 2-may-2005, 13:32 CET
SIGN2.DEF 2-may-2005, 16:46 CET
Using f-prot 3.16b

Groetjes,
Bonno Bloksma
- Original Message - 
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def
is timestamped:
05/02/2005  03:53 AM
and checking their website and downloading the current version manually
shows that the current version is:
05/02/2005  01:32 PM
Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
that has the problem?
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV
(Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
(although
I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem
with
HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
extensions.
John T
eServices For You

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses

attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
encrypted
zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this
behavior? Here is part of the log.
05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip
[base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382
Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Matt posted the authoritative roundup in a head to head comparison when
he revamped his Declude Virus setup.

Unless he chimes in here with an updated answer, the answer is somewhere
in the archives.

Andrew 8)


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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative


We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a
year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.  What do
others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Nick
On 2 May 2005 at 15:02, Chuck Schick wrote:

> We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over
> a year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.  What do
> others recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?
Hi Chuck - 

Well Mcafee  is hard to beat for their command line scanner 
[scan.exe] @ $11 but the real trick is finding a source to purchase 
it from. I got mine through my day job via government purchasing.

-Nick
> Chuck Schick
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> (303)-421-5140
> www.warp8.com
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
F-Prot may have pulled the latest defs do to the number of complaints
received, which could explain why the app reports that you have the latest
version.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


> I also filled out the form at FProt's site.  Thanks for the defs.  When
> I open up FProt, though, it says that my defs are up-to-date, even
> though I replaced the newest ones with the ones that you sent.  I hope
> that that message indicates whether we've downloaded the latest - not
> whether we are actually using the latest defs.
>
>
>
> Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
>
> >I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file.
> >
> >I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def from
> >
> >05/02/2005  01:32 PM
> >
> >And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like to
> >supply them with several samples.
> >
> >I've also played around with the switch settings and found that there
> >are no relevant switches that can be used as a workaround (i.e. "/ai"
> >"/noheur" and "/server" make no difference in the detection or not of
> >this false-positive).
> >
> >All of the messages detected either had Office 10 or Office 11 headers
> >or were replies to messages created with Office 10 or Office 11.
> >
> >Andrew 8)
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:10 PM
> >To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> >Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> >
> >
> >Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
> >
> >I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current
> >logfile, but I've still running 3.16a
> >
> >Markus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> >>Tolmachoff (Lists)
> >>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
> >>To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> >>Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> >>
> >>It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last
> >>hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged
> >>by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file
> >>on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> >>
> >>Any one else seeing problems?
> >>
> >>For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot
> >>scanning relying on AVG.
> >>
> >>John T
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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot Alternative

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
We have been running F-prot as the virus scanner with Declude for over a
year but lately it seems to have more and more bugs in it.  What do others
recommend as low-cost scanners to work with declude?

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, what matters is that you have the correct (older) *.def files, not
whether the GUI says you're up to date.  As far as it knows, you are.

Remember to temporarily disable your updater, or correct (older) *.def
files will just get overwritten again when the auto-updater kicks in.

Andrew 8)

p.s. Once I received the automated confirmation message from F-Prot, I
replied to it with the full information we've discussed here, and
supplied 10 sample false-positives.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Rogers
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


I also filled out the form at FProt's site.  Thanks for the defs.  When 
I open up FProt, though, it says that my defs are up-to-date, even 
though I replaced the newest ones with the ones that you sent.  I hope 
that that message indicates whether we've downloaded the latest - not 
whether we are actually using the latest defs.



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

>I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file.
>
>I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def from
>
>05/02/2005  01:32 PM
>
>And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like to

>supply them with several samples.
>
>I've also played around with the switch settings and found that there 
>are no relevant switches that can be used as a workaround (i.e. "/ai" 
>"/noheur" and "/server" make no difference in the detection or not of 
>this false-positive).
>
>All of the messages detected either had Office 10 or Office 11 headers 
>or were replies to messages created with Office 10 or Office 11.
>
>Andrew 8)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:10 PM
>To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
>Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
>
>
>Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
>
>I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current 
>logfile, but I've still running 3.16a
>
>Markus
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff 
>>(Lists)
>>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
>>To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
>>Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
>>
>>It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now,

>>a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged
>>by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
>>on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
>>
>>Any one else seeing problems?
>>
>>For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning 
>>relying on AVG.
>>
>>John T
>>eServices For You
>>
>>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Markus Gufler

> F-Prot Seems to be catching it now as 
> 
> X-Declude-Virus: Detected  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My F-Prot is catching it for over 3 hours nou as Sober.O
Previously only the second scanner Mcafee has catched is as Sober.gen for
around a hour while F-prot has not detected it. In this hour there was
several attempts to deliver this virus.
>From around 2 hours ago Mcafee is catching it as Sober.p

Markus

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I also filled out the form at FProt's site.  Thanks for the defs.  When 
I open up FProt, though, it says that my defs are up-to-date, even 
though I replaced the newest ones with the ones that you sent.  I hope 
that that message indicates whether we've downloaded the latest - not 
whether we are actually using the latest defs.


Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file.
I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def from 

05/02/2005  01:32 PM
And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like to
supply them with several samples.
I've also played around with the switch settings and found that there
are no relevant switches that can be used as a workaround (i.e. "/ai"
"/noheur" and "/server" make no difference in the detection or not of
this false-positive).
All of the messages detected either had Office 10 or Office 11 headers
or were replies to messages created with Office 10 or Office 11.
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current
logfile, but I've still running 3.16a
Markus
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last
hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  
by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot
scanning relying on AVG.
John T
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
I e-mailed you the latest, non-affected defs, offline.  I run 3.16b and it
has the same problem (since it's a detection issue with the virus
definition, not the application), but I would still upgrade to the latest
version.

Bill
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


> I've been running 3.15b - I'm downloading the latest version now.
> Should I install?  or will this have no effect on this particular issue?
>
> And what about the previous defs - anyone out there want to email me a
> previous def file as a work around??
>
> Thanks
>
> Kevin
>
>
> Markus Gufler wrote:
>
> >Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
> >
> >I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current
logfile,
> >but I've still running 3.16a
> >
> >Markus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
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> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> >>Tolmachoff (Lists)
> >>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
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> >>Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> >>
> >>It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last
> >>hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged
> >>by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file
> >>on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> >>
> >>Any one else seeing problems?
> >>
> >>For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot
> >>scanning relying on AVG.
> >>
> >>John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't think the engine version matters, just the pattern file.

I've confirmed that the culprit is this, the most recent sign.def from 

05/02/2005  01:32 PM

And yes, I've sent in a support request via their web page; I'd like to
supply them with several samples.

I've also played around with the switch settings and found that there
are no relevant switches that can be used as a workaround (i.e. "/ai"
"/noheur" and "/server" make no difference in the detection or not of
this false-positive).

All of the messages detected either had Office 10 or Office 11 headers
or were replies to messages created with Office 10 or Office 11.

Andrew 8)

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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?

I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current
logfile, but I've still running 3.16a

Markus


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> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
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> Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> 
> It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last
> hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  
> by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
> on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> 
> Any one else seeing problems?
> 
> For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot
> scanning relying on AVG.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I've been running 3.15b - I'm downloading the latest version now.  
Should I install?  or will this have no effect on this particular issue?

And what about the previous defs - anyone out there want to email me a 
previous def file as a work around??

Thanks
Kevin
Markus Gufler wrote:
Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current logfile,
but I've still running 3.16a
Markus
 

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last 
hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  
by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot 
scanning relying on AVG.

John T
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Don Hickey
I have not updated to 3.16b and have this problem...
Don
- Original Message - 
From: "Markus Gufler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current 
logfile,
but I've still running 3.16a

Markus

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last
hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged
by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file
on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot
scanning relying on AVG.
John T
eServices For You

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Matt




Markus,

3.16b here, but only 3 hits so far for this on a busy server, so it's
not necessarily common.  I was able to capture one of these and it
appears to be hitting at least E-mails generated in "Microsoft Word 11".


"file:///C:\Program%20Files\Common%20Files\Microsoft%20Shared\Stationery\">

I have no clue what the pattern is that it is hitting of course, but I
assume that F-Prot just simply added an overbroad rule.  Most E-mail
isn't constructed anything like what Microsoft Word creates.

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:

  Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?

I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current logfile,
but I've still running 3.16a

Markus


  
  
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last 
hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  
by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?

For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Markus Gufler
Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?

I can't see any appearance of "HTML/ObjData" in the entire current logfile,
but I've still running 3.16a

Markus


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> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:47 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
> 
> It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last 
> hour. Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  
> by F-Prot as having the HTML object exploit. Running the file 
> on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> 
> Any one else seeing problems?
> 
> For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot 
> scanning relying on AVG.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
F-Prot Seems to be catching it now as 

X-Declude-Virus: Detected  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:55 PM
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Mine has the 01:32 PM time stamp and the last update time was at 10:00 AM
which is after when I saw the problem, so I would have to say the 01:32 time
stamp is the problem one.

John T
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:38 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting 
> through...
> 
> F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def 
> is timestamped:
> 
> 05/02/2005  03:53 AM
> 
> and checking their website and downloading the current version 
> manually shows that the current version is:
> 
> 05/02/2005  01:32 PM
> 
> Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using 
> that has the problem?
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting 
> through...
> 
> 
> Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV 
> (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot 
> (although I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there 
> problem with
> HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
> 
> Bill
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting 
> through...
> 
> 
> >I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip 
> >extensions.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
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> >
> >> -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
> >> To: Declude. Virus
> >> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> >>
> >> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have 
> >> viruses
> 
> >> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
> > encrypted
> >> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this 
> >> behavior? Here is part of the log.
> >>
> >>
> >> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip 
> >> [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 
> >> Q568a382
> >> Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
> >>
> >> Chuck Schick
> >> Warp 8, Inc.
> >> (303)-421-5140
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
sure - thanks!  Has anyone let F-Prot know about this?
Kevin
Bill Landry wrote:
Depends on how you execute your updates.  I use a script that saves a 
copy of the previous defs to a backup directory.  I can zip and send 
the previous defs to you if you do not have copies of them.

Bill
- Original Message - From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

How can I roll back ??
- Original Message - From: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

Yes, this is a problem!  I rolled back to my latest defs prior to 
the last
update and all is well again.  I disabled my updates for a while to 
see if
F-Prot fixes this issue.

Bill
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

> It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. 
Now, > a
> lot
> of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having 
the > HTML
> object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
>
> Any one else seeing problems?
>
> For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning 
relying
on
> AVG.
>
> John T
> eServices For You
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Depends on how you execute your updates.  I use a script that saves a copy 
of the previous defs to a backup directory.  I can zip and send the previous 
defs to you if you do not have copies of them.

Bill
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How can I roll back ??
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


Yes, this is a problem!  I rolled back to my latest defs prior to the 
last
update and all is well again.  I disabled my updates for a while to see 
if
F-Prot fixes this issue.

Bill
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

> It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, 
> a
> lot
> of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the 
> HTML
> object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
>
> Any one else seeing problems?
>
> For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying
on
> AVG.
>
> John T
> eServices For You
>
>
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I'm having the same problem.  Again - how do you rollback the virus defs?

Wind wrote:
Thank you for the tip, John.
I searched the logs and since the update there are legitimate E-mail, 
which are caught.

Uwe
- Original Message - From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:46 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. 
Now, a lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning 
relying on
AVG.

John T
eServices For You

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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Jeff
How can I roll back ??


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


> Yes, this is a problem!  I rolled back to my latest defs prior to the last
> update and all is well again.  I disabled my updates for a while to see if
> F-Prot fixes this issue.
>
> Bill
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 AM
> Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
>
>
> > It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a
> > lot
> > of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
> > object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.
> >
> > Any one else seeing problems?
> >
> > For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying
on
> > AVG.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread David Barker
Not really to do with Virus but rather interesting information provided by
Scott Perry, I thought I would share it considering the thread has to do
with challenge-responses.

Challenge/Response systems are seriously flawed. Reasons include:

[1] You end up being a spammer (the majority of spam sent to you will result
in confirmation requests being sent to innocent victims)

[2] Spammers now send pretend confirmation requests, presumably to make
people less likely to respond to C/R requests

[3] Many people respond to C/R requests that they never initiated (so you
could still get spam or viruses). A number of people in the anti-spam
community have said that they always respond to challenges, whether or not
they initiated the E-mail.

[4] C/R companies have been known to send out spam and harvest addresses of
people sending to their customers, and apparently sell those addresses to
spammers

[5] The C/R system is patented, so most anti-spam programs using C/R have
legal liabilities waiting to be ironed out

[6] Confirmations sent to mailing lists won't work

[7] Confirmations sent to others using C/R won't work (they send you an
E-mail, your C/R system challenges them, but their C/R system challenges
you, yours then challenges them, etc.).

[8] People that offer a free service end up losing money (by spending time
investigating and responding to C/R systems, dealing with spam received as a
result, etc.) and sometimes get fed up with C/R systems and eventually stop
offering free advice (never knowing how many people won't get the advice),
harming everybody.

[9] Legitimate E-mail from automated services won't be seen (such as when
ordering products online)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate your contribution.  I've added several strings
from this Zaep email to my filter that blocks lousy Challenge-Response
emails.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?


I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
challenge-response stuff.  If everyone did this on all the lists I belong to
- I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the
challenge-responses.  I think I will report this as spam.

Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.  

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



Dear Chuck,



Thank you,

Greg Hedgepath


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate your contribution.  I've added several
strings from this Zaep email to my filter that blocks lousy
Challenge-Response emails.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?


I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
challenge-response stuff.  If everyone did this on all the lists I
belong to
- I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the
challenge-responses.  I think I will report this as spam.

Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.  

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



Dear Chuck,



Thank you,

Greg Hedgepath


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread William Stillwell
Hahaha.. Yeah, I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Schick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Declude. Virus" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
challenge-response stuff.  If everyone did this on all the lists I belong to
- I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the
challenge-responses.  I think I will report this as spam.
Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.
Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

Dear Chuck,
Thanks for your email, but at this point I have NOT actually received your
message because I have implemented a challenge-response based anti-spam
solution.  Before I can receive your message you must respond in ONE of the
ways outlined below.
---
CLICK ON THE URL
---
Visit the following URL and follow the simple instructions.  When you do
this I will receive the message you sent and ALL future messages.
http://spambot.ahphosting.net/?key=6811e93e.42766ac2.5a637c50
If the above URL does not appear all on one line, copy and paste it into
your browser's address bar.
PLEASE NOTE: If you receive an error message when attempting to visit the
above URL, it is very likely that your network is not allowing you to visit
my confirmation page.  If this is the case, contact your network
administrator for help, or contact me by telephone.
You will not have to do this again.
---
REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE
---
Simply reply to this email message ensuring the subject of your reply
contains the subject of this message.  When your reply arrives I will
receive your ORIGINAL message and all FUTURE messages.
Or as an alternate method follow these instructions:
If you do not respond within 7 days, your message will be DELETED and I will
not be able to receive messages from you in the future.
I apologize for this small one-time inconvenience, but I have been forced to
implement this challenge-response based anti-spam solution to eliminate 100%
of the spam I receive, and it really works!
To learn more about the software I am using to stop spam, please visit
http://www.Zaep.com/.  Zaep has stopped 100% of all the spam messages I was
receiving every day.
Thank you,
Greg Hedgepath
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Mine has the 01:32 PM time stamp and the last update time was at 10:00 AM
which is after when I saw the problem, so I would have to say the 01:32 time
stamp is the problem one.

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:38 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> 
> F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def
> is timestamped:
> 
> 05/02/2005  03:53 AM
> 
> and checking their website and downloading the current version manually
> shows that the current version is:
> 
> 05/02/2005  01:32 PM
> 
> Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
> that has the problem?
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> 
> 
> Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV
> (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
> (although
> I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem
> with
> HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
> 
> Bill
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> 
> 
> >I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
> >extensions.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
> >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
> >> To: Declude. Virus
> >> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> >>
> >> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
> 
> >> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
> > encrypted
> >> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this
> >> behavior? Here is part of the log.
> >>
> >>
> >> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip
> >> [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382
> >> Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
> >>
> >> Chuck Schick
> >> Warp 8, Inc.
> >> (303)-421-5140
> >> www.warp8.com
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[Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
challenge-response stuff.  If everyone did this on all the lists I belong to
- I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the
challenge-responses.  I think I will report this as spam.

Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.  

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



Dear Chuck,

Thanks for your email, but at this point I have NOT actually received your
message because I have implemented a challenge-response based anti-spam
solution.  Before I can receive your message you must respond in ONE of the
ways outlined below.

---
CLICK ON THE URL
---
Visit the following URL and follow the simple instructions.  When you do
this I will receive the message you sent and ALL future messages.

http://spambot.ahphosting.net/?key=6811e93e.42766ac2.5a637c50

If the above URL does not appear all on one line, copy and paste it into
your browser's address bar.

PLEASE NOTE: If you receive an error message when attempting to visit the
above URL, it is very likely that your network is not allowing you to visit
my confirmation page.  If this is the case, contact your network
administrator for help, or contact me by telephone.

You will not have to do this again.


---
REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE
---
Simply reply to this email message ensuring the subject of your reply
contains the subject of this message.  When your reply arrives I will
receive your ORIGINAL message and all FUTURE messages.

Or as an alternate method follow these instructions:


If you do not respond within 7 days, your message will be DELETED and I will
not be able to receive messages from you in the future.

I apologize for this small one-time inconvenience, but I have been forced to
implement this challenge-response based anti-spam solution to eliminate 100%
of the spam I receive, and it really works!

To learn more about the software I am using to stop spam, please visit
http://www.Zaep.com/.  Zaep has stopped 100% of all the spam messages I was
receiving every day.

Thank you,

Greg Hedgepath


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread William Stillwell
http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=description&virus_k=133409
Mcafee Dat 4473 should detect it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Donn Bly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

I'm seeing it here.  Neither Norton or FPROT detect it as a virus yet.  The 
non-encrypted Zip file includes a .PIF file, but the filename seems to be 
mangled in some way.

For now I have added
BANNAME account_info.zip
to my config.  With your report, I have added account_info-text.zip as well.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:58 PM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We
ban encrypted
zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing
this behavior?
Here is part of the log.
05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def
is timestamped:

05/02/2005  03:53 AM

and checking their website and downloading the current version manually
shows that the current version is:

05/02/2005  01:32 PM

Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
that has the problem?

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV 
(Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
(although 
I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem
with 
HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


>I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip  
>extensions.
>
> John T
> eServices For You
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
>> To: Declude. Virus
>> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
>>
>> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses

>> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
> encrypted
>> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this 
>> behavior? Here is part of the log.
>>
>>
>> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip 
>> [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 
>> Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
>>
>> Chuck Schick
>> Warp 8, Inc.
>> (303)-421-5140
>> www.warp8.com
>>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









I saw it start at about 10:00 AM PDT.

 

Some one please contact F-Prot. I would
but I am at a client trying to recover data from a failed hard drive. Fun.

 



John T

eServices For You



 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Don Hickey
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005
11:14 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot and HTML object exploit

 



I am having the same problems here. It all started
around 12:30 Central time...





 





Don







- Original Message - 





From: Matt 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com






Sent: Monday, May 02,
 2005 12:56 PM





Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit





 



John,

Thanks a bunch for pointing this out.  I have found two of these in the
last hour that are tagging what appears to be legitimate E-mail, bother from
the same person.  This is gatewayed E-mail:

05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=6657 Checksum=558425]
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Found potentially dangerous stuff in F:\D66F5EF3A00E815E6.vir\0.!
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image001.jpg [base64;
Length=11748 Checksum=1305364]
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image002.gif [base64;
Length=2184 Checksum=243507]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanner 1: Virus=HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Attachment=[HTML segment] [0] O
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 File(s) are INFECTED [HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
0]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting file with virus
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting E-mail with virus!
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 4
21877]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from
208.7.179.200]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Subject: RE: NCC Docket 2005 - 2

It looks like turning F-Prot off might be a good idea,
or at least configuring it to not delete viruses.

Matt





John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 

It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lotof outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTMLobject exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean. Any one else seeing problems? For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying onAVG. John TeServices For You   ---This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list.  Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".    The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.    





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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Donn Bly
I'm seeing it here.  Neither Norton or FPROT detect it as a virus yet.  The 
non-encrypted Zip file includes a .PIF file, but the filename seems to be 
mangled in some way.

For now I have added 

BANNAME account_info.zip

to my config.  With your report, I have added account_info-text.zip as well.



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> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> 
> 
> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We 
> ban encrypted
> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing 
> this behavior?
> Here is part of the log.
> 
> 
> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
> Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
> 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
> 
> Chuck Schick
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> (303)-421-5140
> www.warp8.com
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV 
(Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot (although 
I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem with 
HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).

Bill
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...


I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
extensions.
John T
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
encrypted
zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?
Here is part of the log.
05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Don Hickey



I am having the same problems here. It all started around 12:30 Central 
time...
 
Don

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matt 
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and 
  HTML object exploit
  John,Thanks a bunch for pointing this out.  I have 
  found two of these in the last hour that are tagging what appears to be 
  legitimate E-mail, bother from the same person.  This is gatewayed 
  E-mail:
  05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: 
[text/html][quoted-printable; Length=6657 Checksum=558425]05/02/2005 
13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Found potentially dangerous stuff in 
F:\D66F5EF3A00E815E6.vir\0.!05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME 
file: image001.jpg [base64; Length=11748 Checksum=1305364]05/02/2005 
13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image002.gif [base64; Length=2184 
Checksum=243507]05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanner 1: 
Virus=HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment=[HTML segment] [0] O05/02/2005 
13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 File(s) are INFECTED [HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
0]05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting file with 
virus05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting E-mail with 
virus!05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS 
[MIME: 4 21877]05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from 
208.7.179.200]05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Subject: RE: NCC 
Docket 2005 - 2It looks like turning F-Prot off might be a 
  good idea, or at least configuring it to not delete 
  viruses.MattJohn Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 
  It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?

For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.

John T
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Bill Landry
Yes, this is a problem!  I rolled back to my latest defs prior to the last 
update and all is well again.  I disabled my updates for a while to see if 
F-Prot fixes this issue.

Bill
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From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a 
lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.
John T
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Wind
Thank you for the tip, John.
I searched the logs and since the update there are legitimate E-mail, which 
are caught.

Uwe
- Original Message - 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:46 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit


It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a 
lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?
For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.
John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
extensions. 

John T
eServices For You


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> On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
> To: Declude. Virus
> Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
> 
> I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
> attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
encrypted
> zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?
> Here is part of the log.
> 
> 
> 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
> Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
> 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
> 
> Chuck Schick
> Warp 8, Inc.
> (303)-421-5140
> www.warp8.com
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Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread Matt




John,

Thanks a bunch for pointing this out.  I have found two of these in the
last hour that are tagging what appears to be legitimate E-mail, bother
from the same person.  This is gatewayed E-mail:
05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file:
[text/html][quoted-printable; Length=6657 Checksum=558425]
05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Found potentially dangerous stuff
in F:\D66F5EF3A00E815E6.vir\0.!
05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image001.jpg [base64;
Length=11748 Checksum=1305364]
05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image002.gif [base64;
Length=2184 Checksum=243507]
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanner 1:
Virus=HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attachment=[HTML segment] [0] O
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 File(s) are INFECTED
[HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 0]
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting file with virus
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting E-mail with virus!
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME:
4 21877]
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from 208.7.179.200]
05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Subject: RE: NCC Docket 2005 - 2

It looks like turning F-Prot off might be a good idea, or at least
configuring it to not delete viruses.

Matt





John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:

  It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?

For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.

John T
eServices For You



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[Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread Chuck Schick
I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban encrypted
zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?
Here is part of the log.


05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?

For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.

John T
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Wind
I sent this email because now I am not so sure.  And I know others
that have the same feelings.  Renew or not renew.  I was told the
company would be run in the same high quality manner as before.
Clearly that is not the case. Without knowing the coders know their
stuff relating to spam it is quite risky to take the chance with such
a small company.
I think every company after Scott will have a problem, because Scott did a 
job, which no one can do a long time without heartattack ;-)
I think Declude makes a good job. The new release is out and it is like in 
the past, no problems.
When there is a problem I mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com and get a fast 
response.
That is the main thing why I pay for a service agreement. And these things 
have not changed in my opinion.

Uwe
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store


On 2 May 2005 at 9:51, Douglas Cohn wrote:
Douglas -
I agree  with what you are saying. And I miss Scott for his slant on
techsupport and philosphy [ Remember Len & Scott dialogs? :)   ]
That said we need to give the new Declude a chance. [That is coming
from a guy that has been posting some negativity lately]. They are
learning the new turf. And they have some good email admins
supporting them (for now)
If Declude misses the point competition will but thenm out of
business.
-Nick
 Plus, if they actually integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support
agreement in order to download the latest fruits of our labor. :)
Yes that is a key point and the reason I always rushed out to renew in
the past.
I sent this email because now I am not so sure.  And I know others
that have the same feelings.  Renew or not renew.  I was told the
company would be run in the same high quality manner as before.
Clearly that is not the case. Without knowing the coders know their
stuff relating to spam it is quite risky to take the chance with such
a small company.  We knew Scott was the best, who are the people that
took over the reins and what credentials do they have.  I mean
Symantec cannot do it right and I should trust someone who won't
participate in their own forums?
If Scott would chime in here and say  "DON'T worry Doug these people
know their stuff, you are in good hands."  I would order a renewal.
But he left.
Doug
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Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 5:59 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store
Douglas Cohn wrote:
>Using this forum for support is certainly less expensive to the
>company
>
... unless you're charging for support, then it could be viewed as a
losing proposition to assist in free support. I fear this may be the
mindset. This view, is, of course, entirely wrong; as you mentioned,
our R&D feedback is very valuable-worth more than a support contract.
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Matt
Scott,
While you have first hand knowledge of the inner-workings at Declude 
under the new management, many around here have no clue as to whether or 
not this list is even being monitored, and I think that's what is really 
at issue.  Free and open communication is the best way to go.  I think 
the biggest issue for those around here is the lack of public feedback, 
though not necessarily the lack of answers.

Personally, I'm aware that it is monitored and I was already confident 
that the feedback here was important to the folks at Declude, but it is 
a little unsettling for even myself, and certainly others with even less 
exposure to Declude, to see discussions regarding important matters go 
unanswered in this forum.  For instance, I have no clue as to how best 
to approach the F-Prot issues that we have been discussing for the last 
week, and it seems that Declude should have chimed in publically in the 
first days.   Although I know they are listening, I have no clue as to 
what they are thinking or if any decisions have been made regarding it.

For discussions that don't revolve around using the product, these lists 
are often the best places to discuss such things.  A couple of weeks ago 
I posted about a multiple-processing bug that had been previously 
reported to Declude through the support channel.  Others around here had 
also indicated that they had seen this, and I have a feeling that it was 
the combination of all of our reports that helped them conclude that 
this was a bug that was real and needed to be addressed.  I now know 
that they have figured this bug out, but no one else around here does, 
and I think that follow up is vital.  Without this list the burden falls 
so much more on the individual and many individuals don't have the 
patience or time to follow through with the data acquisition or testing 
required to accurately show what is going on, and of course working 
within a vacuum isn't the best way either.  Without the follow up, it 
requires more work for us to keep up with what is going on and what we 
may consider to be important.  I think you understand these things.

I do realize that the new folks at Declude have taken a pounding from 
time to time on these lists by people that are uncomfortable with the 
changes.  That unfortunately is a reality of such lists, and I would 
hope that this doesn't prevent them from participating more in public.  
Someone will always be unhappy, but you were able to manage this quite 
effectively and for the good of the product.  I would hope that this 
reality, or other factors, aren't keeping Declude away from 
participating more in the lists.  In the very least, they should set up 
a page on the site for bugs and plans for when they will be resolved, or 
what is being done to resolve them (not everything is a bug in Declude 
of course).  This would be very helpful if it was in fact timely.

Matt


R. Scott Perry wrote:

If Scott would chime in here and say  "DON'T worry Doug these people 
know
their stuff, you are in good hands."  I would order a renewal.  But 
he left.

I'm not completely gone.  :)
Everyone does things differently, and I knew when I sold that company 
that the new owners wouldn't do everything exactly the way that I 
did.  Any new way of operating has its tradeoffs.  As you pointed out, 
one of the changes is that there isn't as much of a company presence 
on this mailing list as there was before.  It used to be that I was a 
major contributor to this list.  However, a lot of what I was posting 
was stuff that others could have posted (as they are now).

What is happening, though, is that the list is being monitored.  You 
would be surprised at how many times one of the owners would be 
discussing something with me, and then bring up a post from this 
list.  And this definitely includes some "A lot of people are asking 
for Feature X."

Right now the company is at a crucial point -- it is seeing how it can 
manage without my daily involvement.  My personal opinion is that they 
are doing a good job with it.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Nick
On 2 May 2005 at 9:51, Douglas Cohn wrote:

Douglas - 

I agree  with what you are saying. And I miss Scott for his slant on 
techsupport and philosphy [ Remember Len & Scott dialogs? :)   ]

That said we need to give the new Declude a chance. [That is coming 
from a guy that has been posting some negativity lately]. They are 
learning the new turf. And they have some good email admins 
supporting them (for now)

If Declude misses the point competition will but thenm out of 
business.

-Nick

>  Plus, if they actually integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support
> agreement in order to download the latest fruits of our labor. :)
> 
> Yes that is a key point and the reason I always rushed out to renew in
> the past.
> 
> I sent this email because now I am not so sure.  And I know others
> that have the same feelings.  Renew or not renew.  I was told the
> company would be run in the same high quality manner as before. 
> Clearly that is not the case. Without knowing the coders know their
> stuff relating to spam it is quite risky to take the chance with such
> a small company.  We knew Scott was the best, who are the people that
> took over the reins and what credentials do they have.  I mean
> Symantec cannot do it right and I should trust someone who won't
> participate in their own forums?
> 
> If Scott would chime in here and say  "DON'T worry Doug these people
> know their stuff, you are in good hands."  I would order a renewal. 
> But he left.
> 
> Doug 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 5:59 PM
> To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store
> 
> Douglas Cohn wrote:
> 
> >Using this forum for support is certainly less expensive to the
> >company
> >
> ... unless you're charging for support, then it could be viewed as a
> losing proposition to assist in free support. I fear this may be the
> mindset. This view, is, of course, entirely wrong; as you mentioned,
> our R&D feedback is very valuable-worth more than a support contract.
> Plus, if they actually integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

If Scott would chime in here and say  "DON'T worry Doug these people know
their stuff, you are in good hands."  I would order a renewal.  But he left.
I'm not completely gone.  :)
Everyone does things differently, and I knew when I sold that company that 
the new owners wouldn't do everything exactly the way that I did.  Any new 
way of operating has its tradeoffs.  As you pointed out, one of the changes 
is that there isn't as much of a company presence on this mailing list as 
there was before.  It used to be that I was a major contributor to this 
list.  However, a lot of what I was posting was stuff that others could 
have posted (as they are now).

What is happening, though, is that the list is being monitored.  You would 
be surprised at how many times one of the owners would be discussing 
something with me, and then bring up a post from this list.  And this 
definitely includes some "A lot of people are asking for Feature X."

Right now the company is at a crucial point -- it is seeing how it can 
manage without my daily involvement.  My personal opinion is that they are 
doing a good job with it.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, you've got two problems here, Daniel.

The first is that the script depends on an external program called wget
that you probably don't have installed.

The second is that this script should be deprecated, because the FTP
method is no longer provided by F-Prot!

As Jim and Keith pointed out, following the F-Prot article is the way to
go.

I just implemented this last week; here's my comment:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.virus@declude.com/msg11870.html


Andrew 8)


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I have tried using this script.  I keep getting an error referring to
wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot.

Daniel

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Take a look at:

http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot
and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and
a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version!




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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>
> Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind
sharing?
> I
> have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work.  Any help
is
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
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Re: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Matuska
You could just go the simplistic route too and just put "C:\Program 
Files\FSI\F-Prot\FP-Updater\Updater.exe" /internet /hidden in your task 
scheduler, it is not quite as robust or foolproof as some of the other 
scripts, but I have yet to have an issue with it and it is way simple to 
setup and manage.

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech2, CCNA
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Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing? 
I
have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks,
Daniel
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RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Keith Johnson
Daniel,
Give this a try:

http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/88.html

-Keith 

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I have tried using this script.  I keep getting an error referring to
wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot.

Daniel

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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

Take a look at:

http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot
and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and
a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version!




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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>
> Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind
sharing?
> I
> have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work.  Any help
is
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Daniel Ivey
I have tried using this script.  I keep getting an error referring to
wget.exe and it doesn't update F-Prot.

Daniel

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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

Take a look at:

http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot
and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and
a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version!




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



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>
> Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind
sharing?
> I
> have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work.  Any help
is
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Take a look at:

http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100 

F-Prot for DOS updater - A batch file that automatically updates F-Prot
and its virus definitions (old version here), and a Cygwin version, and
a complete .ZIPed version. Finally, a Simple version!

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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> I
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is
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
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[Declude.Virus] f-prot update script

2005-05-02 Thread Daniel Ivey
Does anyone have an f-prot update script that they wouldn't mind sharing?  I
have tried one that I found, but never could get it to work.  Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks,
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Who is minding the store

2005-05-02 Thread Douglas Cohn
 Plus, if they actually integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support
agreement in order to download the latest fruits of our labor. :)

Yes that is a key point and the reason I always rushed out to renew in the
past.

I sent this email because now I am not so sure.  And I know others that have
the same feelings.  Renew or not renew.  I was told the company would be run
in the same high quality manner as before.  Clearly that is not the case.
Without knowing the coders know their stuff relating to spam it is quite
risky to take the chance with such a small company.  We knew Scott was the
best, who are the people that took over the reins and what credentials do
they have.  I mean Symantec cannot do it right and I should trust someone
who won't participate in their own forums?

If Scott would chime in here and say  "DON'T worry Doug these people know
their stuff, you are in good hands."  I would order a renewal.  But he left.

Doug 

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Douglas Cohn wrote:

>Using this forum for support is certainly less expensive to the company
>
... unless you're charging for support, then it could be viewed as a losing
proposition to assist in free support. I fear this may be the mindset. This
view, is, of course, entirely wrong; as you mentioned, our R&D feedback is
very valuable-worth more than a support contract. Plus, if they actually
integrate our feedback, we'll buy the support agreement in order to download
the latest fruits of our labor. :)
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