Re: FOSDEM Apache Developer Room ?
On 15/09/2017 Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: Am 12. September 2017 23:27:42 MESZ schrieb Andrea Pescetti: That is what I am required to obey each year when selecting talks for the devroom I co-organize. Who is asking you to obey that? At some time in 2012, when I was organizing the current incarnation of the devroom for the first time, I was made aware of this requirement. It made sense to me, I agree with it and it gives me the opportunity for rejecting (or asking to improve) presentations that would only be product pitches and that wouldn't fit the spirit of FOSDEM. This information is important as Dev rooms are entirely self organised and independent I surely didn't want to start a discussion about someone violating some fundamental freedoms of devrooms organizers. A quick search on the site doesn't reveal anything forbidding non-technical talks. I do remember it being set as an explicit requirement in 2012, but I don't feel this is important enough for me to spend time digging in the archives. And whether it is explicitly stated or not, I still see it as a requirement that makes sense for a "typical" FOSDEM devroom - not for the one recently discussed on this list. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: FOSDEM Apache Developer Room ?
On 06/09/2017 Sharan Foga wrote: It sounds like the general feeling is to do it, so I will put something together for the Developer room request. Note that I submitted a request on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC to have the traditional "ODF Editors" devroom that has been co-organized by OpenOffice since 2014. I honestly believe that it would be closer to the spirit of FOSDEM if other ASF projects tried to join a devroom where they fit in a technical sense more than in a community sense, especially if you take into account that one of the very few requirements for presentations is to be of a technical nature - and in my case I will surely find more familiar a technical presentation about a non-ASF, ODF-related project than one about an ASF-operated but ODF-unrelated one. That said, I surely don't want to discourage you from applying for an "Apache Devroom". Just consider that some projects might join other devrooms not because they feel "special" or "bigger" or "more important", but because in the very competitive FOSDEM process this gives them the opportunity to better fit the FOSDEM requirements. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: People finder
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: people.a.o is gone and/or there is some sort of ssh problem with both people.a.o and home.a.o. You must use minotaur. Old people.apache.org = minotaur.apache.org (SSH accepted, your old stuff is here) New people.apache.org = home.apache.org (SFTP only, only stuff you manually migrated is there) Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM summary
Daniel Gruno wrote: Thank you so much for an amazing FOSDEM last week! Thank you for being there and for the report! I had to cancel my attendance just a few hours before my scheduled departure, but it's great to know that the ASF booth was successful as expected. This is probably the first time I've missed FOSDEM since 2009, so I hope I will manage to see the ASF booth in one of the future editions! Regards, Andrea.
Re: [UPDATE] FOSDEM
Daniel Gruno wrote: We have been granted a 2-table stand (the biggest they could offer) at FOSDEM to represent the ASF and its projects. Good news! The OpenOffice booth request (which had been sent as a backup, with the explicit indication that it should be ignored if the ASF one was approved) was merged with this one. As we'll have several projects to showcase this time around, we will have to figure out some sort of rotation, in which the ASF itself has one table at all times, and $project has the other table for N hours at a time. FOSDEM is a bit chaotic (in a good sense) by nature, so I don't think we need to really allocate hours to projects. If you wish, sure we can; but we might also be happy being there as one group, that's the fun part of it. This would be an excellent time for projects who wish to be present at FOSDEM to put themselves on the list at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 I still need write access to that page despite several requests (even in this same thread). If access is problematic (user pescetti, mail my @apache.org mail) and a text-based version of the page is available, I can submit patches, but I have no idea how it can work for Confluence. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [UPDATE] FOSDEM
Daniel Gruno wrote: On 12/15/2015 11:01 AM, Upayavira wrote: I also currently plan to attend, but can't update the wiki. I've added you, Sharan and Pierre to the wiki space now. Can I be added too, please? I also currently plan to attend, but can't update the wiki. Thanks, Andrea.
Re: Thanks for AOO
Jim Jagielski wrote: To be clear, we ask first, and ensure that we edit out info that she doesn't want public. I agree we should ask her for permission to publish an edited version of her letter. Actually https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/pmc/ is already a public place and this is a public list so everything is already public in a way... but I hope that for once we manage to get something published on the blog instead of just talking about it. All it takes is that someone in the US reaches to their phone and calls Brenda (or e-mails her, but her e-mail address is not in the PDF apparently) to receive permission for the letter to be posted on the OpenOffice site or blog. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote: So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and OpenOffice has always been granted one for years. Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with Apache OpenOffice. Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel), and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on the ground floor. I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request. Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM
Andrea Pescetti wrote: Roman Shaposhnik wrote: I am not aware of any other devrooms with strong affinity to ASF projects http://s.apache.org/rCo but if you know of any please add them to the wiki. I don't have time/access now. And I can now confirm that my privileges do not allow me to edit https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 If someone can grant permissions to me, I'll update the page. Why does the page (last paragraph) ask that discussions are not held here but on the apachecon-discuss list? Is that still recommended? Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: I'm happy to announce that our proposal for Big data and Datascience devroom got accepted and I would expect a lot of ASF projects to be represented there: https://hpc-bigdata-fosdem16.github.io/ I am not aware of any other devrooms with strong affinity to ASF projects http://s.apache.org/rCo but if you know of any please add them to the wiki. I don't have time/access now. I will do it unless someone else manages to do it before I do. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 2016 Conference in Brussels
Pierre Smits wrote: I also submitted a talk. It seems quite early to submit a talk. In order to submit one, you need that a devroom sends out their call for talks, and devrooms won't be defined until next week. Maybe you submitted one for the main track? Usually competition for that track is very high and they prefer well-known people from the Free and Open Source world, but if your proposal (or any proposal coming from prominent ASF people) is accepted for the Main Track, this would be great. Reference: https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/ Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year). This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the 2015 submission linked above. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for FOSDEM. Good! Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted, but would love any feedback on that. Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic rather than one software and that gather similar projects. Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different devrooms since they apply to different areas. I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Thanks!
Pierre Smits wrote: Thank you all for having a great Apachecon experience +1, thank you all, especially Jan, the Linux Foundation, Rich and the surely many others who in a way or another made sure we could have a great ApacheCon. I had to miss most of it due to unforeseen problems, but I'm glad I managed to be there eventually, albeit for a short time, and have as usual some great conversations with some great people. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at FOSDEM 2016. So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and OpenOffice has always been granted one for years. It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins FOSDEM with a booth. I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we would share the table. So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would try and maximize the chance of getting a presence. It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM. Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
On 25/09/2015 Daniel Gruno wrote: On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: I've just seen this call for participation at FOSDEM and I know we talked about getting more of an Apache presence there. https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/ Indeedy, I was notified by FOSDEM staff about this, and will note that the ASF has formally requested a stand at FOSDEM 2016. That was fast! I had committed to inform this list when I would see the calls, but you were faster. Deadline is 13 November but it does not matter if you already applied. Depending on the number of projects that are interested in a presence at FOSDEM, we'll likely do a rotation, so that each project get N hours OpenOffice has traditionally had an own stand/booth at FOSDEM and, as clarified since the beginning of this thread, it may ask for one independently, as it has always done. That said, if both stands are granted we might ask to have them placed next to each other so as to share space more effectively. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Moving Apache Extras
Niclas Hedhman wrote: It is useful that this kind of feedback reaches ComDev, so projects learn from each other and can make informed decisions. As Jan and me have written several times, OpenOffice moved its "Extras" area (which, in the OpenOffice case, consists simply in a binary file repository for some build dependencies) to SourceForge months ago. In the OpenOffice case SourceForge was a natural choice anyway since they host the OpenOffice binary downloads and they are quite reliable from a technical point of view. Of course, the SourceForge reputation incidents were discussed at length on the OpenOffice lists (even though OpenOffice was unaffected at all; they were discussed as a matter of principle) and you can find everything in the archives. I'll note that they fixed the issue they had caused: http://sourceforge.net/blog/project-mirroring-policies-will-be-revisited-with-our-community-panel-existing-mirrors-removed/ and they also implemented better control on the ads they display. I'm confident they have learnt to behave. Regards, Andrea.
Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On the other hand, somebody taking said snapshot and releasing it under the name Project BOO, licensed under the ALv2. Is something that both the ALv2 license AND our trademark policy are totally fine with. What if (not a fictional example; a real case) the code is taken from a branch that comes from a recent code donation and source headers are still in the process of being updated to comply with the donation? Waiting for that code to be included in a formal release for sure solves the problem. But if one doesn't want to wait, I wouldn't know what to suggest. Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM
On 17/07/2015 Roman Shaposhnik wrote: What's the process of proposing a dev room? For example, last year I really wanted to do bigdata and/or data science dev. room You wait for the call and you send a proposal. I mean, this whole thread does not have a big value until the calls are out... https://fosdem.org/2016/ will display, at due time, the calls. Again: if last year's timeline is to be used as reference, https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/news/2014-07-01-call-for-participation/ call was issued in July 2014 with a deadline of mid-September 2014. Note that the FOSDEM organizer won't simply give a yes/no on a proposal: they may merge or rearrange different proposals as they see fit. Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM
On 15/07/2015 jan i wrote: On 14 July 2015 at 09:06, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 13/07/2015 jan i wrote: who takes lead on keeping an eye on the FOSDEM team? I usually monitor that, and I can notify this list too this year (even though now is way too early for me to have any ideas about my possible commitment to an OpenOffice and/or and Apache presence). thanks a lot for volunteering to help keep a finger on the pulse. It might be that you do not have any idea about the AOO presence, but it seems I am in a more lucky position Well, it seems I didn't write it in a clear way. My quote above should mean something like I have no idea if I will be at FOSDEM, not I have no idea if OpenOffice/Apache will be at FOSDEM. I doubt that could be misunderstood, but with a lot of mails misunderstandings just happen and are not a big issue. For reference: last year the call was mid-September with a deadline of mid-November and the conference was in late January like this year. The dates I have been told are saturday 30 january 2016 to sunday 31 january 2016. These are the official dates, sure. I wanted to say (and here I admit I wrote it in a confusing way!): FOSDEM 2016 will be more or less in the same period as FOSDEM 2015. For FOSDEM 2015 calls were sent out mid-September 2014 with a deadline in mid-November 2014. It is reasonable to expect a similar timeline this year. - AOO traditionally has a double table on the first floor, I would would like (as ASF and AOO) to get 4 tables in the ground floor. It would be great to have both, not at the expense of visibility though. I would suggest to wait for the call and read it before exploring possibilities. I'm much in favor of an Apache presence. I don't know if one can ask for a specific floor... but again, reading the call can probably help a lot! - if we have enough projects, we can try and make a Apache dev.room (AOO might prefer to be in open editors room). Is it ok if I write to all PMCS asking for interest ? I tend to think like Rich on this: a virtual track would be very smart (i.e., we --oops, I am already assuming I will be at FOSDEM!-- have a poster at the booth where we highlight all Apache-related talks), but these talks happen in different devrooms, since the devrooms are not arranged by Foundation but by topic. - Which message to do we want to bring across ? just that we exist or more ? More! - Is the booth a place for people to join Apache, or just a we exist, go and look us up ? It is a developer conference. I would consider it a success if developers who visit the booth consider putting their reasonably serious projects in the Incubator and have a good understanding of the advantages this brings. Please if somebody feel I bully by taking lead, please tell me Come on... You are welcome to do so! Simply, I can't take commitments since at this moment late January 2016 is off the radar for me (to be clear, I want to say: it's too early for me to know whether I will be in Brussels at FOSDEM in late January 2016). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Moving Apache Extras
On 13/07/2015 jan i wrote: that was my understanding as well. AOO moved a while ago. OpenOffice hasn't properly moved, and actually we need to get this done by the next release. The current URL is temporary as oooextras.mirror does not make sense (it is not a mirror) and it was meant to become part of the new Apache Extras and possibly renamed. But yes, if nothing happens we can still keep oooextras.mirror (or similar name; can't check now) which is already under control of the PMC. Regards, Andrea.
Re: the new http://projects.apache.org/ is live
On 13/07/2015 sebb wrote: There's an old typo I spotted long ago; I would have fixed it myself, but I got lost when trying to locate the site sources. https://projects.apache.org/projects.html in the left block you have By Progamming [sic] language. Fixed in URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1690644 Thanks Sebb, but on my browser the sentence now wraps and is broken, and... See the About page link for details of where the sources live: https://projects.apache.org/about.html ...and with this information I indeed have no excuses to expect that others fix it on my behalf! But I will have to wait until the weekend to find some time for proposing a few minor CSS fixes like this one. Regards, Andrea.
Re: the new http://projects.apache.org/ is live
Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: As the title says, projects is now projects-new: http://projects.apache.org Nice! Please report if there is any issue There's an old typo I spotted long ago; I would have fixed it myself, but I got lost when trying to locate the site sources. https://projects.apache.org/projects.html in the left block you have By Progamming [sic] language. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCON CORE and Apache Big Data, Budapest 28 september - 2 October.
jan i wrote: Apache Big Data has July 10th as deadline for CFP. Then https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage should be corrected. It still lists today as deadline for Core (and that's OK) and July 15th as deadline for Big Data (and that should be changed if it's July 10th as you state above). I don't plan to submit any talks for Big Data, this is just for people like me who tend to notice things when it's almost too late... Regards, Andrea.
Re: I'm looking for State of the Feather filetype:pptx
Edward J. Yoon wrote: Just FYI, here's my slides - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ScAzW37oEYnaYR8yNZCyJlk_lnssSAXopeZ0NUmPoeg/edit?usp=sharing What do you mean by ASF philosophy is that code can be used commercially w/ restrictions? If it's not a typo, can you expand on it? The rest looks good to me! Regards, Andrea.
Re: Standards for mail archive statistics gathering?
Betty James wrote: How do I get off this thread. don't know how I got on Just follow the instructions others have already provided. I'm putting you in CC in case you have already unsubscribed from this discussion list. but I am just a totally ignorant individual using Open Office and trying to donate (which doesn't sound necessary anymore) Actually, donations to OpenOffice and to the entire non-profit Apache Software Foundation are welcome! See http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html to discover the existing possibilities we have for donations. Thank you for your intentions, and sorry if some misleading instructions led you to believe you needed to subscribe to this discussion list! Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheConNA 2015 slides
On 19/04/2015 Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: Thanks Andrea. I don’t see them there yet, so maybe they are still delayed. Do you know how I can check if they are delayed, or if I simply uploaded them wrong? For the ACEU14 site (which seems to be the same system) I checked that it was working by: re-editing my session; finding the attached file; the file is presented as a link that one can publicly access, so one can check that the upload was successful. I don't remember if there was a checkbox to make the file publicly visible. But it also happened automatically that the slides appeared on the Slides page, which for ACNA15 would be http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides and it seems this hasn't been populated yet. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheConNA 2015 slides
Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: Great seeing you all at ApacheCon. Quick question - I got my slides uploaded after my talk(s) (late of course) to the website - who should I poke at LF to make sure they are on the website? I am not seeing them and I’m sure it’s something I’m doing wrong? Assuming it works like for ApacheCon EU, slides will not appear on the page where your talk is described, but they will automatically get aggregated (possibly with a delay) to the Slides page, which should be http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/slides Regards, Andrea.
Re: ACNA Presentation Template
On 22/03/2015 Nick Burch wrote: On 20/03/15 19:46, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ApacheCon EU 2014 http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp (this ought to have been uploaded to the Templates site too ...) I've just tried to upload it, but after creating an account on templates.openoffice.org and getting a password set link, the log in button takes me to a page saying Drupal already installed I have an account on the Templates site and I can surely upload it for you. But it's the first time I've heard about this error and many new templates appear every week, so I assume it was a temporary glitch. Maybe you simply need to visit http://templates.openoffice.org/en/user/password and try again; I just did that and I was logged in without any problems. So, if someone who does have an account could upload the template for me, that'd be wonderful! (And possibly look at fixing the site too...) If you still have login issues, please raise them on the OpenOffice dev list or (assuming you are not subscribed to the above) at the technical questions contact listed at http://templates.openoffice.org/en/websitecontact ; and if you are still unable to upload the template, I remain available to upload it for you. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ACNA Presentation Template
On 19/03/2015 Rich Bowen wrote: http://templates.openoffice.org/en/search?search_api_views_fulltext=apacheconsort_by=createdsort_order=ASC and also http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp Also, see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201411.mbox/browser for discussion of the differences between the two, and the fact that, apparently, one of them is 14MB, and what to do about it. The unusable (14MB or so) one is neither of the above. It had been graciously provided by the Linux Foundation to speakers. Community-produced OpenOffice templates that were actually used at conferences are the following: ApacheCon Europe 2012 http://templates.openoffice.org/en/template/apachecon-europe-2012-presentation ApacheCon NA 2013 http://templates.openoffice.org/en/template/apachecon-north-amaerica-2013 ApacheCon EU 2014 http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp (this ought to have been uploaded to the Templates site too, but apparently Linux Foundation never clarified the terms of usage for some images that Nick included into it) By the way, we happen to be speaking about a specific sub-sub-issue where the Linux Foundation didn't do a great job, but ApacheCon Budapest was amazing, and they surely have a lot of merit for it! Regards, Andrea.
Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote: I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there). But things have gone quiet for about 2 months. There was a second prototype that looked pretty good (to us). But, I don't know the state of things now. It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't allow that). http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just moved on and started using the SourceForge space. Regards, Andrea.
Re: FOSDEM 2016
Rich Bowen wrote: For those that weren't there, you should know that OpenOffice had a presence there (as they always have), staffed by volunteers, with some swag provided by the ASF, and other swag provided by the OpenOffice community, out of their own pockets. They did an *awesome* job of representing both AOO and the ASF as a whole. Thanks. The feather-decorated Ask me! badges helped a lot to get questions about the ASF. However, I think we can do better in 2016. I want to see Apache have a table at FOSDEM 2016, representing more than just one project, with proper respect to the historical position of AOO at the event - ie, not just usurping their place there. Suggest a main track talk. There are plenty of good Apache stories to tell. I usually have a look at the FOSDEM site in early September for deadlines. I recommend that you do the same. * We would need to either have a separate table from AOO, or double the size of the existing table, so that we don't eclipse their place there. They've put *years* into developing a presence at FOSDEM, and we want to respect that. The OpenOffice table is double (with respect to the one you saw). But our volunteers, due to good relationships with the neighboring Perl table, rearranged them so that instead of 2 OpenOffice + 2 Perl we had 1 OpenOffice (which was enough) + 3 Perl (which was barely enough for the huge amount of stuff they carry, piles of books and even a life-size camel last year). * Table Staff: I figure it takes at least 6 people to staff a FOSDEM table if you don't want to go insane. Daniel and Jan have said that they will staff the table. So we're 1/3 of the way there. I would probably be available for some time, but, like many of the folks that might otherwise be willing to do time, I have work duties as well. I have no work duties at FOSDEM (meaning, I attend it as a pure volunteer) but I have no time either. And I don't know if I will attend next year. * We need printed materials, as well as stickers/pins/whatever. Not sure about this. At FOSDEM most people are content with stickers, pins and talks. We prepared lots of OpenOffice tri-folds for events but not many of them are used at FOSDEM. * A tshirt would be nice Yes! So, if you are interested in being part of this effort, please speak up. I might be at FOSDEM 2016 and/or I might be available to share my knowledge from my experience there. Don't count on me too much for staffing the table though, I'm always very busy at FOSDEM. Regards, Andrea.
Re: A maturity model for Apache projects
On 06/01/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: With regard to competitors, I just remind myself that forking is a feature and that community before code means not acting like a competitor. One should not accept the so-called competitor's terms of debate, no matter how much individuals might see and even prefer competition. I'll just note that Forking is a feature is totally unrelated to what I wrote. If Microsoft starts a campaign to advocate IIS over the Apache HTTP Server, that PMC will have to follow your route and not accept the terms of debate or it will have to give an answer, and part of it may have to be discussed confidentially (even the Foundation Press Releases are not discussed in public before they are issued; in the real world... this happens). The discussion that followed seems to clearly show that this stays undecided. So, coming back to the maturity model, I think that we can recommend a wise usage of the private list, but not necessarily restrict it to votes and security. Trademark violations for example surely belong there, and more can belong there depending on the project and on its public image. A note to reassure those who oppose it: I've never seen marketing strategy discussions on the private lists I'm subscribed to. I'm definitely not a marketing-oriented person, but I don't see marketing as inherently evil either. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Fwd: ApacheCon NA 2015 Travel Assistance Applications now open!
On 13/12/2014 jan i wrote: The Travel Assistance Committee (TAC) are pleased to announce that travel assistance applications for ApacheCon North America 2015 are now open! ... http://www.apache.org/travel/ The passport/visa information on that page are still the ones for Budapest and EU apparently. While I assume that nobody will use the TAC page to know whether he needs a visa to attend ApacheCon Austin, that information should be removed, or made generic, or rewritten. Regards, Andrea.
Re: A maturity model for Apache projects
On 06/01/2015 Vincent Keunen wrote: On 2015-01-06 19:15, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: convenience binaries are not Apache Releases. Let's not forget OpenOffice and the likes. Having all users compile the source code *may* reduce the installed base. ;-) The binaries OpenOffice makes available for download from its official site are convenience binaries as per Bertrand's description. We are not going to ask users to build it themselves! Regards, Andrea.
Re: A maturity model for Apache projects
On 06/01/2015 Tim Williams wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: The binaries OpenOffice makes available for download from its official site are convenience binaries as per Bertrand's description. We are not going to ask users to build it themselves! We're heading off-topic a bit, but... Really? I thought you guys were some sort of exception to our normal policy and that it was provided by the PMC. We are really going off-topic, but just to clarify: the [VOTE] mail references both the source and the convenience binaries. Convenience binaries are prepared by the Release Manager on his own hardware (and this is slowly moving to Apache-owned infrastructure). A major flaw in a binary would be a reason for rejecting a release candidate, or asking a rebuild of binary packages. So you guessed right: they are PMC-approved convenience binaries. I hope it's clear now. See here for a sample [VOTE] mail: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-qa/201408.mbox/%3c53edb383.6080...@gmail.com%3E Regards, Andrea.
Re: Slides on ApacheCon site
On 30/12/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: Angela responds: ... http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/program/slides OK, thanks! Regards, Andrea.
Slides on ApacheCon site
A few days ago, after being appropriately nagged by the ApacheCon system and having ignored it for a while, I uploaded my slides to the ApacheCon site, hoping that this way they would be visible to everybody. But then I noticed that slides live on the submissions site http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/ which is not necessarily synchronized with the schedule site http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/ So, in short: - Did I upload my slides to the wrong place? - Does anybody know if slides (not mine, but everybody's) are visible somewhere under http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-europe/ or http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/ ? Thanks, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCON EU Budapest is history but will forever be remembered.
On 04/12/2014 jan i wrote: I read what you are saying, but we actually sent a lot of mails out, my concern is that more mails would just be spam. Late as usual, I join the group, thanking all people involved for organizing a great event. And I believe that promotion was absolutely enough. Do you have a suggestion as to how we get the attention of people (PMCs and everybody who potentially would/will come) ? I'm sure that active people (committers, say) who were not in Budapest explicitly decided not to come. So the problem is not awareness, but perceived value in the context: these are just invented examples, but they may have decided not to attend due a busy period, to travel costs, to the conference fee, to a perception that they wouldn't make enough business contacts if this was important to them... Of course I can't guess why others didn't come, but guessing/asking for that would probably help for future events. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Content tracks at ApacheCon Austin
On 22/11/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: At ApacheCon EU this week, I spoke with a number of project PMCs. I requested that they attempt to put together what they feel would be a good track - ie., a list of topics that they feel would need to be covered in order for their project to be properly represented - and then attempt to solicit *those* talks from their user/dev community. This is a really good idea. We had a nice OpenOffice track this year, but some topics were missing, especially development topics. By allocating topics in advance and then looking for speakers (with some flexibility) we can surely have a more balanced track. You can count me in for reviewing OpenOffice submission, together with the others who already volunteered. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Consideration to Create GitHub Mirrors for Apache Extras Project
Christoph Emmersberger wrote: Just wanted to raise the question, if mirroring has been considered at any stage, or if this is completely out of scope. The mirrors are rather a developer convenience and not meant to replace the main repositories. If you are suggesting that this mirroring happens on Github, please make sure first that it's not violating Github's terms of service: despite recent amendments, https://github.com/blog/1302-goodbye-uploads still seems to prohibit the kind of use OpenOffice does of Apache Extras, i.e., a repository for external tarballs: https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-extras/downloads/list Regards, Andrea.
Re: OpenOffice folks: ApacheCon template?
On 24/10/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: One more try - can any of you fine OpenOffice folks whip up a slide template for ApacheCon EU, like was done for Denver? Let's forward this to the OpenOffice dev list too (in CC) and see if it is a yes! Volunteers? Templates to be refreshed are here: http://templates.openoffice.org/en/search?search_api_views_fulltext=apacheconsort_by=createdsort_order=ASC ApacheCon EU is in Budapest, Hungary, in case someone doesn't know (old templates often used the country colors, but this is not a must). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache Extras PoC
On 01/10/2014 David Nalley wrote: Roberto and others from Sourceforge have set up a proof of concept for the SF-based replacement for Apache Extras. You can take a look below. Comments/Input welcome. https://sourceforge.net/directory/vertical:Apache-Extras/ This was sent to the dev@community list, but seeing the very limited feedback I'm CCing the d...@openoffice.apache.org list too. I can say I managed to build OpenOffice trunk by replacing (and I'm not suggesting that anyone commits this, it is just a proof of concept!) -OOO_EXTRAS=http://ooo-extras.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/ +OOO_EXTRAS=http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ and -URL2 = $(OOO_EXTRAS)$(MD5)-$(name) +URL2 = $(OOO_EXTRAS)$(MD5)-$(name)/download in external_deps.lst after deleting all third-party packages. So the archive seems complete and working. Honestly, with the very long filenames we use, http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/?source=directory is hardly readable, and this should definitely be improved is possible. For the rest, does anybody know the status of the OpenOffice section in Apache Extras? https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-extras/downloads/list Didn't anybody complain so far simply because we haven't tried to upload new auxiliary libraries there after December 2013? Or someone tried and was hit by the new policy of Google Code as applied to Apache Extras? If we are to change, it would be good to know in what way the current solution is broken. My reading was that new uploads were forbidden, and indeed if I login at the above URL I don't see an Upload file function, but I used it only once in the past, so I'm not sure I'm looking at the right places. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache Extras PoC
On 23/10/2014 Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: That's because dev@community is a Apache Software Foundation-wide mailing list, not an OpenOffice.org-specific one. And David did the right thing by e-mailing the dev@community list: Apache Extras is foundation-wide (not OpenOffice-specific) and its problems affect many projects across the Foundation. I'm CCing the d...@openoffice.apache.org list too. This is the correct mailing list for you to post messages about OO.o. ;) It is also the correct list to forward messages of generic interest, like David's, that would benefit from input from the Apache OpenOffice project (if you mean Apache OpenOffice with OO.o). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Tweets for ApacheCon (was Re: ApacheCon - How you can help)
Joe Brockmeier wrote: I'm including a list of suggested tweets for *all* talks at ApacheCon EU here. It'd be great if we could start using these and tweeting from project and personal accounts. This is a nice idea! Apache @OpenOfficeorg's @pescetti discusses Bending The Rules: Community Over Code Over Policy http://sched.co/1pboGSl #ApacheCon in Nov. ... The @OpenOfficeorg Localization Community http://sched.co/1nz1e34 by @pescetti @ApacheCon Europe on Nov. 18 in Budapest! ... @OpenOfficeorg At @TheASF: 2014 And Beyond http://sched.co/1pbtTJT @pescetti @ApacheCon Europe Nov. 18th These all need to be fixed. The official Twitter account of the Apache OpenOffice project is https://twitter.com/ApacheOO ; @OpenOfficeorg is not under control of the project. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Tweets for ApacheCon (was Re: ApacheCon - How you can help)
Joe Brockmeier wrote: Sorry - disregard previous list. Corrected keynote info and used the correct (I believe) Apache OpenOffice twitter handle this time. Thanks, I confirm the correction is OK, it's the same I asked for in a message sent simultaneously to your self-correction. I will send a message to the OpenOffice dev list linking to your list of OpenOffice-related tweets as soon as I see that http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201409.mbox/date is updated with your message. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCon - How you can help
On 19/09/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: Here's the most important ways that you can help with ApacheCon EU right now, in order of importance. * If you are involved in an Apache project that has content at ApacheCon, send messages to your users@ and dev@ list Done for the OpenOffice lists, adapting the message and tone to the OpenOffice lists audience. Regards, Andrea.
Registration for ApacheCon
Two very small issues that I met while registering for ApacheCon: 1) Tutorials hours have an unnecessary (actually, wrong) Mountain time qualifier: http://i.imgur.com/G01c00n.png 2) The Terms and conditions say that photographs and recordings may be used for publicity purposes for the Linux Foundation and the OpenDayLight project: http://i.imgur.com/Ad60g57.png ; I have nothing against it at the moment, but if there had been Apache Foundation in place of the (unknown to me) OpenDayLight project I would have found it more reassuring. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [ApacheCon] Titles and Abstracts
On 08/08/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: * Read titles and abstracts. Can they be improved? Is a title unclear, not compelling, not descriptive, just plain boring? Are there typos, grammatical errors, or awkward sentences in the abstract? Are there placeholders that need to be filled? That kind of thing. This looked OK until... until today I clicked on http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/event/6ab6772bd382bb86151c1f43adb8ef26 and saw that the title, speaker (me, next to title) and abstract look correct and similar to the values I submitted, but at a closer look the speaker bio under the abstract is not mine: it's the one of Christian Schneider. Indeed if you look at http://apacheconeu2014.sched.org/speaker/christianschneider you'll see that Christian is reported to be giving about 20 talks with half a dozen different identities... something has to be fixed here. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCon EU schedule overview
On 27/08/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: If you want to do some kind of event on Thursday or Friday, like an Open Office hackathon, or even present more content, please let me know soon, as people are already making travel/lodging plans and those will be harder to change as time goes on. Thanks, I notified the OpenOffice dev list in case there is someone who is going to stay on Thursday and Friday and is willing to organize something. You can assume it's a No, thanks if you don't hear anything reasonably soon! For unscheduled informal meetings that do not need a specific name (e.g., I want to discuss one hour with a dozen committers on a given issue) will there be time during the three main days (like after the last session on Mon-Tue-Wed, or even in parallel to the sessions, provided there is a small space available) or it's better to defer all of these activities to Thu-Fri? Many people could leave on Wednesday night, so if the venue is large enough to allow improvised small gatherings it would be excellent. Regards, Andrea.
Re: OpenOffice making a television debut on the series, Intruders!!
On 22/08/2014 Melissa Warnkin wrote: So I thought I'd share some exciting news with you! Back in February, Shane and I were working with the Clearances Script Coordinator for */Nine Productions1 Inc. /* regarding permission to use OpenOffice in their TV series, Intruders. The US premiere is Saturday, August 23rd Thanks for the news. It will be nice if someone manages to take and share a picture, so that we can add it to OpenOffice's movie appearances gallery at https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/with_special_guest_star_apache Regards, Andrea.
Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
Branko Čibej wrote: I don't know where you got this, but it definitely is not true that every PMC chair is a member. This is not even a requirement. Sure. I became PMC chair before being voted in as a member, for example. It is possible and reasonable that an entire project community contains not a single ASF member, only committers. Certainly, members must be involved during incubation, but there's no requirement for them to stay on the project once it has graduated. This seems less likely. A cursory look at http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html seems to confirm that (almost! apparently vcl-pmc does not; but a smart LDAP query is probably better than me at checking that) all PMCs do contain at least a member. I remember that when OpenOffice graduated someone noted that only a couple of PMC members were already ASF members, and I assume that the same check is done on other projects, even if it is not a formal requirement. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache@ OSCON question
Melissa Warnkin wrote: I can make room on the table for pins. When you refer to leaflet and roll-up designs, what is that and how much real estate would they take up? I'll explain better: physical objects are not available, meaning that either they haven't been printed yet or they are in Europe and it's unpractical to deliver them to OSCON in the US. This is why I focus on the designs, since stuff would have to be reprinted anyway. We have designs available for: - A4 leaflets, in color (suitable b/w too) https://flic.kr/p/dSDcDC - A roll-up like this one, roughly 80x200cm: https://flic.kr/p/dSDcB5 So for these two items the main issue is whether someone is attending FOSDEM and can print them. Pins with the OpenOffice logo used to be a quite successful giveaway that we could look into redesigning (we don't have the original files, but they had the old logo) and reprinting. Again, I don't know whether it makes sense to print stuff in Europe and ship it to the US... But Kay feel free to bring this to the OpenOffice dev list and we can find some ideas there, provided that someone is actually going to attend OSCON or the Expo Hall! Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache@ OSCON question
Kay Schenk wrote: OK, I'll ask about this. I think OpenOffice does have some popular items that have been used at other events. It's out of stock and needs redesign. But we could at least redesign the pins, that used to be quite popular. We have updated leaflet and roll-up designs, that we can share if anyone is going to print them (or have them printed) for OSCON. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCon EU CFP Review - Help needed
Rich Bowen wrote: The ApacheCon EU CFP closes in a week, as you know. We need your help reviewing the talks that have been submitted. Those of you who helped with Denver are already on the list, but if there are other people that want to be involved in reviewing the content and selecting the schedule for ACEU, please let me know, and I'll get you added to the auth list. User pescetti. I plan to submit at least one talk too, but I guess we can cope with that. I don't yet know how many tracks we'll end up with - it depends on what talks come in over the next week. We are now five months to the conference. Sure, organizers have their needs and that's how it works, and that's right by definition. Still, requesting submissions now could well miss some relevant content that simply we can't imagine since hopefully all projects will have some news worth presenting in the next five months. Is there a provision to deal with this? Like lighting talks about recent (so to say) developments? Or shall we encourage generic submissions, now, of stuff that may be there in five months? I personally would go for this last option, to avoid missing interesting content. But if there are guidelines I'll be happy to follow them. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Event in a Box budget
On 02/05/2014 Melissa Warnkin wrote: The size of the case is 51x24x10, and IIRC the case alone weighs approx 20-25 lbs. Is the size measured in cm or in? If it's inches, this will be quite problematic to carry around Europe, no matter how much space Jan has at home. If it is centimeters, this sounds definitely more manageable! Regards, Andrea.
Re: Open Source Organizational Culture
On 22/04/2014 Storm-Olsen, Marius wrote: As part of the research into a thesis on Open Source Organizational Culture, I want to send out a short survey to the Apache organization. However, given that the Apache community is so large, with numerous individual projects under its umbrella, I wanted to check with the community list first; both to seek explicit permission for doing so, and to figure out what would be the best way to send out such a survey without spamming the community. ... http://bit.ly/OSOCAS2014 Hello Marius, it seems we didn't manage to answer you so far, and your deadline is today... So I'll jump in. Well, as chair of the Apache OpenOffice project, one of the most researched open source projects in history, I answer surveys aimed at analyzing correlations between free/open source software and anything (from politics to sports, from society to religion) almost every weekend, and I decided to stop. Still, I gave a chance to your survey, and I found it unusually interesting. It is a survey that I would really like to be taken by all the OpenOffice volunteers, and by volunteers from all Apache projects in general. It focuses on four simple indicators (something like: community, innovation, competition, stability) and it asks everyone to evaluate the status of the project now and the ideal status of the project in 5 years according to these indicators, seen from multiple points of view (individual contributor, management...). I believe that, for once, we have a survey that can be useful to the projects and not only to the student. We can even check with numbers whether our Community over code mantra is really perceived as such by contributors and whether it is considered an indicator for future success. Please extend your deadline by two weeks, send the survey link to d...@openoffice.apache.org and I'll endorse your request. I encourage others to take your survey too (link above) and to consider advertising the survey on the dev lists of other projects if they find it equally interesting. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCon Europe status and ToDo
On 23/04/2014 Rich Bowen wrote: If you would like to be involved in reviewing the content for the conference, please let me know. I missed Denver but I'll be happy to help with Budapest. Account pescetti. The conference format is 3+2 - three days keynotes and conference sessions, then two days other stuff. Other stuff includes tutorials (if we can get them to fly this time), the CloudStack conference, a one or two day Open Office user event (depending on the content we can get for this) The OpenOffice (one word please) event sounds like a wonderful opportunity. It would need to be substantially different from the main ApacheCon in terms of audience, fee and spirit. How can we make it excellent? Is this a task of the Linux Foundation, of the PMCs, of some individuals? I see a problem in waiting for content before having some basic event details settled. Of course, feel free to bring this to the PMC if you need feedback, a small discussion has already started. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Community Events at ApacheCon Denver
Melissa Warnkin wrote: Hi Andrea, I see you have a note in the s/s wrt contacting dev@; thank you for that! Have you sent an email to the users@ and speakers as well for OpenOffice? I've done it now. See updated Google Doc. Regards, Andrea.
Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?
Jim Jagielski wrote: One reason for the 72hour rule is to ensure that no PMC member feels disenfranchised. ... PMCs are *inclusive*. The processes and procedures are designed to maintain that inclusivity. This is not 100% incompatible with 12-hour votes. Our current rules assume that the PMC as a group is not immediately responsive, so they make provisions for the process to be inclusive. But a vote can (quite obviously, I'd say, even if I'm not quite experienced) be considered closed as soon as all PMC members have voted, and this can happen earlier than the 72 hours have elapsed. Sure, this is virtually impossible in the project I'm chairing, where I've never seen a vote with 100% participation from the PMC. But other projects are different. If a PMC is really determined to have shorter voting windows, they will be equally determined to vote as soon as possible and thus shrink the voting window, by closing the vote as soon as everybody has voted. If they can make it in 12 hours, this will be an inclusive 12-hour voting window. Regards, Andrea.
Re: please I would like to contact a real person for Open Office Writer project
Arnaldo Carbone wrote: now I will send a mail to d...@openoffice.org Sorry about the confusion, Jan's link below is indeed wrong, the Apache OpenOffice lists are at http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html proposal: to make possible to change the shape and the color of the cursor in Apache Open Office Writer; it would be so pleasent to find easily the position of the cursor after somebody removes the glance from the screen! Thank you for that. I filed your enhancement request at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124140 and we should now stop discussing on this list (dev@community) since this is a generic Apache list, not meant to address bugs of the software released by Apache. If you have further comments, just post them at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124140 (you will need to register, same page). Regards, Andrea. 2014-01-27 jan i j...@apache.org mailto:j...@apache.org Hi. I assume you mean Apache Open Office. Your mail implies that you tried to contact to project via telephone, this is not possible, we do not have any telephones. If your installation provides a telephone number, then you dont have the original Apache OpenOffice software installed. We are all a bunch of volunteers and only available on email. you can find the original AOO version here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html and if you want to mail us, then please write to : us...@openoffice.org mailto:us...@openoffice.org (user guidence) or d...@openoffice.org mailto:d...@openoffice.org (technical development) you might also find https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ very usefull. have a nice day jan I.
Re: please I would like to contact a real person for Open Office Writer project
Arnaldo Carbone wrote: Hi there; it is so difficult to contact you! everytime I tryed to do it, I had an automatic failure message back! please contact me! Arnaldo, you should be a little clearer. I received a message from you at progetto-it-owner AT openoffice.apache.org (a mailing list in Italian) with the subject please contact me and no text. How could I know what to do with that? Others have already described to you the main channels: - d...@openoffice.apache.org for generic requests in English - utenti...@openoffice.apache.org (the correct version of the one you were trying) for user support in Italian - https://forum.openoffice.org/ for user support in several languages. In any case, just describe the problem you are having and we'll help you. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Question about Apache-Extras
On 22/12/2013 Jacques Le Roux wrote: OFBiz is concerned as well. We have several components there and we would like to know if a replacement solution has been planned? https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=label%3aOFBiz Another round of Board reports, so I'm asking if there is any update too. The original post http://s.apache.org/hzJ stated January 15 as a deadline. So, any news on the following two questions? 1) Does the Google Code change affect Apache Extras? 2) Are there plans to make the lost functionality available in some other ways? Infra clearly stated that this is a ComDev issue. Thanks, Andrea.
Re: Content Committee, ApacheCon 2014
On 13/12/2013 Rich Bowen wrote: I expect that once we have a contract signed (within the next two weeks, I sincerely hope), we'll have a CFP out very soon, and then it'll run through January. Once the CFP closes, I expect there would be a brief (couple weeks?) period in which the talks would be voted and selected, and that's the window in which we'd need content-expert help. OK. From the OpenOffice PMC Louis (louis) and Kay (kschenk) volunteered to help with content selection for Apachecon US 2014 and it might be that more people join when the content selection period approaches. (CCing private@openoffice to notify the PMC; follow-up on dev@community). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Call for Booths at Chemnitzer Linuxtage open
On 20/11/2013 Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: If there are any plans to have another Open Office booth at Linuxtage - maybe it would make sense to also ship some more general ASF merchandise? Michael was very quick and already sent the application a couple days ago, see http://markmail.org/thread/dssjb5apxzdybr7k As for merchandising, if there is some ASF merchandise available it would be great to have and distribute it. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Re: Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring Org Apps is Monday, Oct 28th at 19:00 UTC
On 26/10/2013 Ulrich Stärk wrote: just a bit more information on GCI. We need 20 tasks already for the org application to be considered. Just wanted to let you know. Thank you; we already have enough tasks, but we didn't find enough volunteers to mentor them. So OpenOffice won't be asking Apache to apply. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Question about Apache-Extras
On 28/10/2013 Roger Whitcomb wrote: P.S. Apache OpenOffice are also concerned, so I have copied them as well. Thanks. As stated in last July's OpenOffice Board Report: --- OpenOffice, like the ASF as a whole, is hit by the announced policy change of Apache Extras. The project currently stores several libraries there, in an area known as ooo-extras, and the build process downloads them when options like --enable-category-b are used. A solution should be found at the ASF level. --- So basically I have the same questions as Roger: 1) does the Google Code change affect Apache Extras (I was assuming it does)? 2) Are there plans to make the lost functionality available in some other ways? Thanks, Andrea.
Re: Functions in OpenOffice
On 13/10/2013 Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: On Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:59:35 AM Bob McElmurry wrote: I have not found some of the functions that I like such as countifs, sumifs, and averageifs. Because of using these functions, I do not feel that it would be an asset to change to OpenOffice. Any suggestions? You have directed your question to the general Apache Community development group. I'm sure the people over on the Apache Open Office user list are in a much better position to answer all your questions: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public Indeed, that list and http://forum.openoffice.org are the best place for user support. Bob, please use those channels in future. Anyway, while at it, I can tell Bob that COUNTIFS, SUMIFS, AVERAGEIFS are supported as of Apache OpenOffice 4.0 (and of course the current 4.0.1 supports them too). See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes Regards, Andrea.
Re: imprtant notice to all forum users.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM, janI wrote: friday august 16 from approx. utc 17:00 and until sunday night, all forums will be down for maintenance... Which forums? The OpenOffice Forums... That was for dev@openoffice.a.o Regards, Andrea.
Re: GSoC 2013 Mentoring Organizations
Joe Brockmeier wrote: On Mon, Apr 8, 2013, at 04:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 Am I missing something, or did Apache not make it this year?! I'm wondering if the list is fully populated. Front page says 177 organizations, the accepted orgs page says it lists 104. I confirm that the counter at the bottom displayed 95 organizations about one hour ago and now it displays 104. Let's hope Apache will soon be added indeed! Regards, Andrea.
Re: GSoC 2013
On 15/03/2013 Luciano Resende wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Manish Agrawaltext2man...@gmail.com wrote: I want to participate in GSoC 2013 through one of the ASF projects. [...] The projects are starting to create their project ideas, and you can start browsing them at https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator!executeAdvanced.jspa?jqlQuery=labels+=+gsoc2013runQuery=trueclear=true If you wish to do something related to Apache OpenOffice the best way to know more is not the above link, since we haven't uploaded possible tasks yet, but an e-mail to the OpenOffice dev list: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public Regards, Andrea.
