Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Scott England-Sullivan
+1(non-binding)
Karaf 2.3.0 - Spring 3.0.x
Karaf 3.0 - Spring 3.1 (high priority)
Karaf 2.4 - Spring 3.1 (low priority)


On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

> Hi Hendy,
> 
> I don't think it's a good thing to "major" Spring update in a minor Karaf 
> version.
> 
> If Spring 3.1 is required "quickly", we can provide a Karaf 2.4.x. However, 
> as already said, we should focus on Karaf 3.0.0 which already provide Spring 
> 3.1 support (and avoid a 2.4.x branch).
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:
>> I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)
>> 
>> If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
>> use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).
>> 
>> Hendy
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi Hendy,

I don't think it's a good thing to "major" Spring update in a minor 
Karaf version.


If Spring 3.1 is required "quickly", we can provide a Karaf 2.4.x. 
However, as already said, we should focus on Karaf 3.0.0 which already 
provide Spring 3.1 support (and avoid a 2.4.x branch).


Regards
JB

On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:

I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)

If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).

Hendy



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Hendy Irawan
Added a JIRA to track :

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1921

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
ml-node+s922171n4026390...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:

> I think it depends on how compatible spring 3.1 is. So if we come to the
> conclusion that it should do no harm then we can deliver it of course.
> One way to test this would be a release candidate and give people some
> time to try it and give feedback. If we agree to go this way we should
> deliver the release candidate
> asap so people have maximum time to test. Then shortly before we do the
> 2.3.1 release we can vote if we should deliver spring 3.1 or spring 3.
>
> Christian
>
> Am 14.10.2012 13:23, schrieb Hendy Irawan:
>
> > I agree that 2.3.x should be bug fix releases. However Spring 3.1
> inclusion
> > isn't intended to fix a bug, merely because Spring 3.0  in Karaf 2.3.0
> was
> > an oversight, and that replacing it with Spring 3.1 will do little harm,
> if
> > any.
> >
> > Is 2.4 line actually necessary (how much farther can we push old Felix
> and
> > Servlet 2.5?), or it's just because of Spring...
> >
> > If so, then I think it's better to direct development to Karaf 3.0 full
> > throttle, while 2.3 is the last maintenance/stable line.
> >
> > Hendy
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
> > [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4026390&i=0>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should
> not
> >> do it in 2.3.1.
> >>
> >> The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is
> >> the most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is
> that
> >> people who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update
> >> karaf without having to retest every deployment.
> >> As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
> >> should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.
> >>
> >> We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is
> >> how I understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)
> >>>
> >>> If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or
> >> can
> >>> use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it
> >> (hopefully).
> >>> Hendy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Hendy Irawan
I highly support this alternative! :)

Using spring 3.1 for 2.3.1-SNAPSHOT and voting before the release would be
awesome! :)

Hendy

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
ml-node+s922171n4026390...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:

> I think it depends on how compatible spring 3.1 is. So if we come to the
> conclusion that it should do no harm then we can deliver it of course.
> One way to test this would be a release candidate and give people some
> time to try it and give feedback. If we agree to go this way we should
> deliver the release candidate
> asap so people have maximum time to test. Then shortly before we do the
> 2.3.1 release we can vote if we should deliver spring 3.1 or spring 3.
>
> Christian
>
> Am 14.10.2012 13:23, schrieb Hendy Irawan:
>
> > I agree that 2.3.x should be bug fix releases. However Spring 3.1
> inclusion
> > isn't intended to fix a bug, merely because Spring 3.0  in Karaf 2.3.0
> was
> > an oversight, and that replacing it with Spring 3.1 will do little harm,
> if
> > any.
> >
> > Is 2.4 line actually necessary (how much farther can we push old Felix
> and
> > Servlet 2.5?), or it's just because of Spring...
> >
> > If so, then I think it's better to direct development to Karaf 3.0 full
> > throttle, while 2.3 is the last maintenance/stable line.
> >
> > Hendy
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
> > [hidden email] <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4026390&i=0>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should
> not
> >> do it in 2.3.1.
> >>
> >> The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is
> >> the most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is
> that
> >> people who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update
> >> karaf without having to retest every deployment.
> >> As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
> >> should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.
> >>
> >> We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is
> >> how I understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)
> >>>
> >>> If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or
> >> can
> >>> use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it
> >> (hopefully).
> >>> Hendy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Christian Schneider
I think the mid term solution would be to extract spring out of karaf 
and deliver it separately. The good thing is that karaf itself has no 
dependency on spring
so it should be possible. The issue will be mainly with the products 
deployed on karaf that then would have to carefully select the correct 
spring version.
Today many applications just depend on feature spring and give no 
version range.


Christian

Am 14.10.2012 13:27, schrieb Claus Ibsen:

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Christian Schneider
 wrote:

While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should not do
it in 2.3.1.

The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is the
most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is that people
who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update karaf
without having to retest every deployment.
As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.

We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is how I
understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?


Isn't the point with Karaf that people can assemble the container as
they wish/need.
So if people need to use Spring 3.1, then IMHO they should be able to
do this in Karaf 2.3.x also.

Eg as I have said before. Make it easier for people to change the
Karaf container to run with Spring 3.1 out of the box.
Eg if it can be as easy to change some boot feature to say spring31,
instead of spring etc. Or whatever you guys can come up with.




Christian


On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:

I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)

If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).

Hendy



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Christian Schneider
I think it depends on how compatible spring 3.1 is. So if we come to the 
conclusion that it should do no harm then we can deliver it of course.
One way to test this would be a release candidate and give people some 
time to try it and give feedback. If we agree to go this way we should 
deliver the release candidate
asap so people have maximum time to test. Then shortly before we do the 
2.3.1 release we can vote if we should deliver spring 3.1 or spring 3.


Christian

Am 14.10.2012 13:23, schrieb Hendy Irawan:

I agree that 2.3.x should be bug fix releases. However Spring 3.1 inclusion
isn't intended to fix a bug, merely because Spring 3.0  in Karaf 2.3.0 was
an oversight, and that replacing it with Spring 3.1 will do little harm, if
any.

Is 2.4 line actually necessary (how much farther can we push old Felix and
Servlet 2.5?), or it's just because of Spring...

If so, then I think it's better to direct development to Karaf 3.0 full
throttle, while 2.3 is the last maintenance/stable line.

Hendy

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
ml-node+s922171n4026387...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:


While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should not
do it in 2.3.1.

The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is
the most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is that
people who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update
karaf without having to retest every deployment.
As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.

We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is
how I understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?

Christian

On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:


I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)

If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or

can

use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it

(hopefully).

Hendy



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Christian Schneider
 wrote:
> While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should not do
> it in 2.3.1.
>
> The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is the
> most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is that people
> who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update karaf
> without having to retest every deployment.
> As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
> should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.
>
> We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is how I
> understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?
>

Isn't the point with Karaf that people can assemble the container as
they wish/need.
So if people need to use Spring 3.1, then IMHO they should be able to
do this in Karaf 2.3.x also.

Eg as I have said before. Make it easier for people to change the
Karaf container to run with Spring 3.1 out of the box.
Eg if it can be as easy to change some boot feature to say spring31,
instead of spring etc. Or whatever you guys can come up with.



> Christian
>
>
> On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:
>>
>> I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)
>>
>> If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
>> use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).
>>
>> Hendy
>>
>>
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Hendy Irawan
I agree that 2.3.x should be bug fix releases. However Spring 3.1 inclusion
isn't intended to fix a bug, merely because Spring 3.0  in Karaf 2.3.0 was
an oversight, and that replacing it with Spring 3.1 will do little harm, if
any.

Is 2.4 line actually necessary (how much farther can we push old Felix and
Servlet 2.5?), or it's just because of Spring...

If so, then I think it's better to direct development to Karaf 3.0 full
throttle, while 2.3 is the last maintenance/stable line.

Hendy

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Christian Schneider [via Karaf] <
ml-node+s922171n4026387...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:

> While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should not
> do it in 2.3.1.
>
> The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is
> the most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is that
> people who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update
> karaf without having to retest every deployment.
> As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch
> should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.
>
> We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is
> how I understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?
>
> Christian
>
> On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:
>
> > I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)
> >
> > If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or
> can
> > use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it
> (hopefully).
> >
> > Hendy
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Christian Schneider
While we could switch to spring 3.1 in karaf 2.4.0 I think we should not 
do it in 2.3.1.


The reason is that 2.3.1 will be a bug fix release. So compatibility is 
the most important thing in these releases. The idea behind this is that 
people who need an important e.g. security fix should be able to update 
karaf without having to retest every deployment.
As Spring 3.1 is a minor update not a bugfix update I think the switch 
should not go into a bugfix release of karaf.


We do not really have an official policy like this at karaf but it is 
how I understand bugfix releases. So what do other think?


Christian

On 10/14/2012 12:38 PM, Hendy Irawan wrote:

I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)

If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).

Hendy



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-14 Thread Hendy Irawan
I strongly support Spring 3.1 for future Karaf 2.3.1 :-)

If one requires strictly Spring 3.0, they can still use Karaf 2.3.0 or can
use "spring30" feature. But I doubt anyone would ever need it (hopefully).

Hendy



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Andreas Pieber
oh, pretty late but still: definitely +1 for timed releases :-)

Kind regards,
Andreas

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
> With the last of the karaf 2.3.0 issues marked as resolved, I'm
> setting things up for a RC build candidate.
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Heath Kesler  wrote:
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> Cheers, Heath
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JB,
>>>
>>> +1 on all points :)
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>> 2012/10/10 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>>>>
>>>> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
>>>> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
>>>> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>>>>
>>>> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't think
>>>> it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and Jetty 8.x, 
>>>> I
>>>> think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an intermediate 
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>>>>
>>>> Does it work for all ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>> Committer & Project Lead
>>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
>>> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
>>> Lead
>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Jamie G.
With the last of the karaf 2.3.0 issues marked as resolved, I'm
setting things up for a RC build candidate.

Cheers,
Jamie

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Heath Kesler  wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> +1 from me
>
> Cheers, Heath
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> +1 on all points :)
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>> 2012/10/10 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>>>
>>> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>>>
>>> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
>>> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
>>> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>>>
>>> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't think
>>> it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and Jetty 8.x, I
>>> think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an intermediate one.
>>>
>>> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>>>
>>> Does it work for all ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>
>>>> - Reply message -
>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>> Committer & Project Lead
>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
>> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
>> Lead
>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Heath Kesler
Hi JB,

+1 from me

Cheers, Heath

On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:

> Hi JB,
> 
> +1 on all points :)
> 
> regards, Achim
> 
> 2012/10/10 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>> 
>> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>> 
>> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
>> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
>> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>> 
>> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't think
>> it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and Jetty 8.x, I
>> think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an intermediate one.
>> 
>> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>> 
>> Does it work for all ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>> 
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
> Committer & Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
> Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>



Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Fully agree,

as I said on IRC:

 cschneide, anierbeck: all is already there in 3.0: it looks 
stable for me, Jetty 8 is there, Spring 3.1 is there
 cschneide, anierbeck: with some "effort" we can provide a 
3.0.0 quickly I think


So we are in line ;)

Regards
JB

On 10/11/2012 10:59 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:

Hi JB,

I'm fine with a 3.1 specific feature, so if people really want to use
it in the 2.x line they need to make sure they do get the right one.

Besides that I'd prefer that we get 3.0 out asap instead of fumbling
with a 2.4 release

regards, Achim

2012/10/11 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :

Hi guys,

just an update about this discussion.

I added spring31* features in Karaf 2.3.x.

I don't want to add spring*/3.1.2.RELEASE features, as it will be used by
default (for instance, if a feature uses a spring version range like [3,4),
by default, spring 3.1.2.RELEASE would be installed). So, to prevent
potential side effect, I have clearly identified the features with 31 in the
name (spring31, spring31-jms, etc).

The issue with this approach is that, if a feature wants to use spring 3.1,
it should rely on a specific name, which is not perfect.

So I wonder if it doesn't make sense to simply remove spring 3.1.x features
in Karaf 2.3.0 and wait for Karaf 3.0.0 release (which includes it), or if
we *really* need Spring 3.1 support quickly prepare Karaf 2.4.0 which can be
exactly the same as Karaf 2.3.0 but with the upgrades to Spring 3.1 and
Jetty 8 for instance.

WDYT ?

Regards
JB


On 10/10/2012 08:05 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:


Hi guys,

just an summarise and "close" the discussion.

Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:

- stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
- depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)

Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't
think it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and
Jetty 8.x, I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an
intermediate one.

Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.

Does it work for all ?

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:


Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -----
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:


@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
(assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.



I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com





--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com






--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Christian Schneider

+1

I am pretty sure we can release karaf 3.0.0 rc1 pretty soon.

Christian

On 10/11/2012 10:44 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys,

just an update about this discussion.

I added spring31* features in Karaf 2.3.x.

I don't want to add spring*/3.1.2.RELEASE features, as it will be used 
by default (for instance, if a feature uses a spring version range 
like [3,4), by default, spring 3.1.2.RELEASE would be installed). So, 
to prevent potential side effect, I have clearly identified the 
features with 31 in the name (spring31, spring31-jms, etc).


The issue with this approach is that, if a feature wants to use spring 
3.1, it should rely on a specific name, which is not perfect.


So I wonder if it doesn't make sense to simply remove spring 3.1.x 
features in Karaf 2.3.0 and wait for Karaf 3.0.0 release (which 
includes it), or if we *really* need Spring 3.1 support quickly 
prepare Karaf 2.4.0 which can be exactly the same as Karaf 2.3.0 but 
with the upgrades to Spring 3.1 and Jetty 8 for instance.


WDYT ?

Regards
JB

On 10/10/2012 08:05 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys,

just an summarise and "close" the discussion.

Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:

- stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
- depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)

Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't
think it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and
Jetty 8.x, I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an
intermediate one.

Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.

Does it work for all ?

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
(assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com








Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi JB,

I'm fine with a 3.1 specific feature, so if people really want to use
it in the 2.x line they need to make sure they do get the right one.

Besides that I'd prefer that we get 3.0 out asap instead of fumbling
with a 2.4 release

regards, Achim

2012/10/11 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :
> Hi guys,
>
> just an update about this discussion.
>
> I added spring31* features in Karaf 2.3.x.
>
> I don't want to add spring*/3.1.2.RELEASE features, as it will be used by
> default (for instance, if a feature uses a spring version range like [3,4),
> by default, spring 3.1.2.RELEASE would be installed). So, to prevent
> potential side effect, I have clearly identified the features with 31 in the
> name (spring31, spring31-jms, etc).
>
> The issue with this approach is that, if a feature wants to use spring 3.1,
> it should rely on a specific name, which is not perfect.
>
> So I wonder if it doesn't make sense to simply remove spring 3.1.x features
> in Karaf 2.3.0 and wait for Karaf 3.0.0 release (which includes it), or if
> we *really* need Spring 3.1 support quickly prepare Karaf 2.4.0 which can be
> exactly the same as Karaf 2.3.0 but with the upgrades to Spring 3.1 and
> Jetty 8 for instance.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 10/10/2012 08:05 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>>
>> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>>
>> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
>> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
>> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>>
>> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't
>> think it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and
>> Jetty 8.x, I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an
>> intermediate one.
>>
>> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>>
>> Does it work for all ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>>>> (assigned to
>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com



-- 

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OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
Committer & Project Lead
OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi guys,

just an update about this discussion.

I added spring31* features in Karaf 2.3.x.

I don't want to add spring*/3.1.2.RELEASE features, as it will be used 
by default (for instance, if a feature uses a spring version range like 
[3,4), by default, spring 3.1.2.RELEASE would be installed). So, to 
prevent potential side effect, I have clearly identified the features 
with 31 in the name (spring31, spring31-jms, etc).


The issue with this approach is that, if a feature wants to use spring 
3.1, it should rely on a specific name, which is not perfect.


So I wonder if it doesn't make sense to simply remove spring 3.1.x 
features in Karaf 2.3.0 and wait for Karaf 3.0.0 release (which includes 
it), or if we *really* need Spring 3.1 support quickly prepare Karaf 
2.4.0 which can be exactly the same as Karaf 2.3.0 but with the upgrades 
to Spring 3.1 and Jetty 8 for instance.


WDYT ?

Regards
JB

On 10/10/2012 08:05 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Hi guys,

just an summarise and "close" the discussion.

Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:

- stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
- depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)

Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't
think it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and
Jetty 8.x, I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an
intermediate one.

Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.

Does it work for all ?

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
(assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-10 Thread Christian Müller
+1

Keep us posted how the optional spring31 feature work...

Thanks,
Christian

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>
> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>
> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>
> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't think
> it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and Jetty 8.x,
> I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an intermediate
> one.
>
> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>
> Does it work for all ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>
>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>
>>
>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>> Thanks all guys,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
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>



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-10 Thread Ioannis Canellos
I agree with JB at all points.

I feel that holding back 2.3 in favor of 3.0.0 was a bad idea and I
wouldn't want to see the same happening to future 2.x versions.
If there is need for a 2.4 let's get it done regardless of when we'll do
3.0.0.

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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-10 Thread Achim Nierbeck
Hi JB,

+1 on all points :)

regards, Achim

2012/10/10 Jean-Baptiste Onofré :
> Hi guys,
>
> just an summarise and "close" the discussion.
>
> Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:
>
> - stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
> - depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf
> 2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)
>
> Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't think
> it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and Jetty 8.x, I
> think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an intermediate one.
>
> Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.
>
> Does it work for all ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:
>>
>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>
>>
>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all guys,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi guys,

just an summarise and "close" the discussion.

Regarding the different message, the final proposal is:

- stay with Spring 3.0.x and Jetty 7.6.x in Karaf 2.3.0
- depending of the effort, include an optional spring31 feature in Karaf 
2.3.0 (I'm working on it and I will give you an update)


Regarding Karaf 2.4.x, we can start a discussion thread but I don't 
think it's a good idea: Karaf 3.0.0 already includes Spring 3.1.x and 
Jetty 8.x, I think it makes sense to focus on this release more than an 
intermediate one.


Karaf 2.3.0 should be released tonight.

Does it work for all ?

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 09:38 AM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

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- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
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http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Scott England-Sullivan
w it's again a pain to find it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we need to redo our webpage desperately since not all
>>>>>>> information can be found easily and the menu
>>>>>>> doesn't necessarily relate to the content (e.g. the manual)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/10/9 Charles Moulliard :
>>>>>>>> Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about
>>>>> Claus's
>>>>>>>> remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>>> projects a page containing a table of the different software used and
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
>>>>>>>> framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
>>>>>>>> Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>>> This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> release that we have miss something
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just my 5€ cents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on
>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not
>>>>>>> imagine
>>>>>>>>> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose
>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I
>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>> test tonight).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with
>>>>>>> Spring
>>>>>>>>> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> think about that for 2.4.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a
>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>>>>>>>>> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>>>>>>>>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>>>>>>>>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>>>>>>>>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>>>>>>>>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> J

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Charles Moulliard
Jetty 8 should also be part of Karaf 2.x.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Christian Schneider  wrote:

> I also would like to see Spring 3.1 in Karaf 2.4 and Jetty 8 in Karaf 3.
>
> If we need Spring 3.1 we can do an additional feature but I see no
> imediate need for Karaf 2.3.
>
> Christian
>
> Am 09.10.2012 17:34, schrieb Achim Nierbeck:
>
>  I second Dan on this only one point I'm not with you :)
>>
>> 2) don't do a 2.4 with jetty 8 but get Karaf 3.0 out of the door
>> instead, we have Jetty 8 Support available there.
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>> 2012/10/9 Daniel Kulp :
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Charles Moulliard  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Is it required to deliver Karaf 2.3.0 now or could we postpone it a few
 days till we provide Spring 3.1 ?

>>> I don't think Spring 3.1 upgrade is a "few days" thing.   And if you go
>>> down that route, why don't we update to Jetty 8.1 which would bring in
>>> Servlet 3 support (which CXF could leverage).   Jetty 8 has been out for a
>>> long time as well.And if we do that, we could update………
>>>
>>> It's a never ending thing.   At this point, we have been testing all the
>>> various projects with Karaf 2.3 running with Spring 3.0.7, Jetty 7.6.x,
>>> etc….   We know things are fairly stable with that.   If we keep trying to
>>> push things forward, we'll never get it out, or if we do, we won't have the
>>> same level of testing and confidence.   I know CXF has not been extensively
>>> (or at all) tested with Spring 3.1.   CXF uses spring a LOT more heavily
>>> than Camel and we HAVE run into issues with the various Spring upgrades in
>>> the past.   I don't have a lot of confidence with it, and since CXF was
>>> just released (artifacts promoted this morning), it would be several weeks
>>> at least before we would normally get any fixes that may be needed for CXF
>>> to work with Spring 3.1.   From a CXF standpoint, I'm actually MORE
>>> confident in a Jetty 8.1 upgrade than I am a Spring 3.1 upgrade as CXF does
>>> test with Jetty 8.1 now.
>>>
>>> I would suggest:
>>>
>>> 1) Get 2.3 out ASAP using what we have been testing it with.   It's WAY
>>> WAY WAY overdue at this point.
>>>
>>> 2) Start a process of timed releases like CXF (and to a lesser extent
>>> Camel).   Timed releases avoid a lot of the feature creep.   If it's there
>>> in time, great.  If not, there is always next release.   2.4 could just be
>>> 3 months away with Sping 3.1 (or 3.2), Jetty 8.1, etc…Of course, get a
>>> wiki page up that shows this roadmap so the other projects that use Karaf
>>> heavily can plan accordingly and start testing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
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>
>
>


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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Christian Schneider

I also would like to see Spring 3.1 in Karaf 2.4 and Jetty 8 in Karaf 3.

If we need Spring 3.1 we can do an additional feature but I see no 
imediate need for Karaf 2.3.


Christian

Am 09.10.2012 17:34, schrieb Achim Nierbeck:

I second Dan on this only one point I'm not with you :)

2) don't do a 2.4 with jetty 8 but get Karaf 3.0 out of the door
instead, we have Jetty 8 Support available there.

regards, Achim

2012/10/9 Daniel Kulp :

On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Charles Moulliard  wrote:


Is it required to deliver Karaf 2.3.0 now or could we postpone it a few
days till we provide Spring 3.1 ?

I don't think Spring 3.1 upgrade is a "few days" thing.   And if you go down 
that route, why don't we update to Jetty 8.1 which would bring in Servlet 3 support 
(which CXF could leverage).   Jetty 8 has been out for a long time as well.And if we 
do that, we could update………

It's a never ending thing.   At this point, we have been testing all the 
various projects with Karaf 2.3 running with Spring 3.0.7, Jetty 7.6.x, etc….   
We know things are fairly stable with that.   If we keep trying to push things 
forward, we'll never get it out, or if we do, we won't have the same level of 
testing and confidence.   I know CXF has not been extensively (or at all) 
tested with Spring 3.1.   CXF uses spring a LOT more heavily than Camel and we 
HAVE run into issues with the various Spring upgrades in the past.   I don't 
have a lot of confidence with it, and since CXF was just released (artifacts 
promoted this morning), it would be several weeks at least before we would 
normally get any fixes that may be needed for CXF to work with Spring 3.1.   
From a CXF standpoint, I'm actually MORE confident in a Jetty 8.1 upgrade than 
I am a Spring 3.1 upgrade as CXF does test with Jetty 8.1 now.

I would suggest:

1) Get 2.3 out ASAP using what we have been testing it with.   It's WAY WAY WAY 
overdue at this point.

2) Start a process of timed releases like CXF (and to a lesser extent Camel).   
Timed releases avoid a lot of the feature creep.   If it's there in time, 
great.  If not, there is always next release.   2.4 could just be 3 months away 
with Sping 3.1 (or 3.2), Jetty 8.1, etc…Of course, get a wiki page up that 
shows this roadmap so the other projects that use Karaf heavily can plan 
accordingly and start testing.



Dan




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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Daniel Kulp
een
>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for
>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>>>>>>>>>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future
>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we
>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since December 2011.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
>>>>>>>> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the
>>>> 3.1.2
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable
>>>> release
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>>>>>>>> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the
>>>>>> box?
>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.x
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
>>>>>>>>>> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net <
>>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and
>>>>>> KARAF-1752
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> 2.3.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till
>>>> tonight;
>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>>>>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>>>>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>>> Committer & Project Lead
>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
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>>>>>>>> Lead
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FuseSource, Integration everywhere
>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>> 
>> --
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Achim Nierbeck
t;>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future
>>> Camel
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we
>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring
>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
>>>>> been
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> since December 2011.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
>>>>>>> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the
>>> 3.1.2
>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable
>>> release
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>>>>>>> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the
>>>>> box?
>>>>>>>>> 3.0.x
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
>>>>>>>>> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net <
>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and
>>>>> KARAF-1752
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone
>>> to
>>>>>>> 2.3.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till
>>> tonight;
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>>>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>>>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>> Committer & Project Lead
>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
>>>>>>> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter &
>>> Project
>>>>>>> Lead
>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FuseSource, Integration everywhere
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charles Moulliard
>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>



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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Daniel Kulp
aus's
>>>>>>> remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>> projects a page containing a table of the different software used
>> and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for
>> Spring
>>>>>>> framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged
>> into
>>>>>>> Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>> This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication
>> of
>>>> a
>>>>>>> release that we have miss something
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just my 5€ cents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen >> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on
>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not
>>>>>> imagine
>>>>>>>> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose
>>>> both
>>>>>>>> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I
>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>> test tonight).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing
>> with
>>>>>> Spring
>>>>>>>> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> think about that for 2.4.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out
>> a
>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the
>> box
>>>>>>>> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been
>> any
>>>>>>>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for
>> people
>>>>>>>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>>>>>>>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way
>> for
>>>>>>>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>>>>>>>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.10.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for 

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Scott England-Sullivan
ee about
>>>> Claus's
>>>>>>> remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>> projects a page containing a table of the different software used and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
>>>>>>> framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
>>>>>>> Karaf/ServiceMix
>>>>>>> This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of
>>>> a
>>>>>>> release that we have miss something
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just my 5€ cents.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on
>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not
>>>>>> imagine
>>>>>>>> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose
>>>> both
>>>>>>>> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I
>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>> test tonight).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with
>>>>>> Spring
>>>>>>>> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> think about that for 2.4.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a
>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>>>>>>>> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>>>>>>>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>>>>>>>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>>>>>>>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>>>>>>>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>>>>>>>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.10.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>>>&g

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Claus Ibsen
gt;>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on
>>> Karaf.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not
>>> >> imagine
>>> >> >> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose
>>> both
>>> >> >> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I
>>> gonna
>>> >> >> test tonight).
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with
>>> >> Spring
>>> >> >> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3
>>> and
>>> >> >> think about that for 2.4.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a
>>> >> major
>>> >> >> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>>> >> >> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>>> >> >> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>>> >> >> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>>> >> >> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>>> >> >> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>>> >> >> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Dan
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Regards
>>> >> >> >> JB
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>>> with
>>> >> >> Camel
>>> >> >> >>>> 2.10.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel
>>> >> version
>>> >> >> >>>> maybe) ?
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>>> >> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>> >> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
>>> >> >> Karaf.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
>>> been
>>> >> out
>>> >> >> >>> since December 2011.
>>> >> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> Regards
>>> >> >> >>>> JB
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
&g

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Charles Moulliard
 >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing
> with
> >> >> Spring
> >> >> >> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3
> >> and
> >> >> >> think about that for 2.4.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out
> a
> >> >> major
> >> >> >> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the
> box
> >> >> >> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been
> any
> >> >> >> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for
> people
> >> >> >> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
> >> >> >> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way
> for
> >> >> >> people to configure Karaf to use that.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
> >> >> >> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Dan
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >> >> >> JB
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
> >> with
> >> >> >> Camel
> >> >> >> >>>> 2.10.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future
> Camel
> >> >> version
> >> >> >> >>>> maybe) ?
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we
> are
> >> >> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
> >> >> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring
> from
> >> >> >> Karaf.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
> >> been
> >> >> out
> >> >> >> >>> since December 2011.
> >> >> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Regards
> >> >> >> >>>> JB
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
> >> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> >> >> >> >>>>>> 1.2.1
> >> >> >> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
> >> >> >> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder c

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Jamie G.
its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>> >> >> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>> >> >> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>> >> >> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>> >> >> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>> >> >> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>> >> >> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dan
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards
>> >> >> >> JB
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
>> with
>> >> >> Camel
>> >> >> >>>> 2.10.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel
>> >> version
>> >> >> >>>> maybe) ?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>> >> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>> >> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
>> >> >> Karaf.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
>> been
>> >> out
>> >> >> >>> since December 2011.
>> >> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Regards
>> >> >> >>>> JB
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
>> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>> >> >> >>>>>> 1.2.1
>> >> >> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>> >> >> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
>> >> >> release
>> >> >> >>>>> of Spring.
>> >> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release
>> of
>> >> >> these
>> >> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>>>> Jamie
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>> >> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Hi
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version 

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Christian Müller
>> >> >
> >> >> > Dan
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >> >> JB
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
> with
> >> >> Camel
> >> >> >>>> 2.10.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel
> >> version
> >> >> >>>> maybe) ?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
> >> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
> >> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
> >> >> Karaf.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its
> been
> >> out
> >> >> >>> since December 2011.
> >> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Regards
> >> >> >>>> JB
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> >> >> >>>>>> 1.2.1
> >> >> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
> >> >> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
> >> >> release
> >> >> >>>>> of Spring.
> >> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release
> of
> >> >> these
> >> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >> >>>>>> Jamie
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
> >> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> Hi
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the
> box?
> >> >> 3.0.x
> >> >> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
> >> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Jamie
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net <
> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
> >> >> >&g

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Jamie G.
; >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
>> >> Karaf.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been
>> out
>> >> >>> since December 2011.
>> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Regards
>> >> >>>> JB
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
>> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>> >> >>>>>> 1.2.1
>> >> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>> >> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
>> >> release
>> >> >>>>> of Spring.
>> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of
>> >> these
>> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>>> Jamie
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
>> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Hi
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box?
>> >> 3.0.x
>> >> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
>> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>>>>> Jamie
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net <
>> j...@nanthrax.net>
>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> >>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
>> >> >>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>> >> >>>>>>>>> To: 
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hey,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to
>> 2.3.1.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight;
>> I'll
>> >> apply
>> >> >>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Andreas
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> JB
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>> >> >>>>>>> -
>> >> >>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> >>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> >> >>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>> >> >>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >> >>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> >> >>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> >>>> jbono...@apache.org
>> >> >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> >> jbono...@apache.org
>> >> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Daniel Kulp
>> >> > dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> >> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> -
>> >> Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> >> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >> Twitter: davsclaus
>> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Charles Moulliard
>> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>> Committer & Project Lead
>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
>> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
>> Lead
>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> Guillaume Nodet
> 
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> 
> FuseSource, Integration everywhere
> http://fusesource.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
>>>
> >> >>>> Regards
> >> >>>> JB
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> >> >>>>>> 1.2.1
> >> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
> >> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
> >> release
> >> >>>>> of Spring.
> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of
> >> these
> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>> Jamie
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box?
> >> 3.0.x
> >> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
> >> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>> Jamie
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net <
> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
> >> >>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
> >> >>>>>>>>> To: 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
> >> >>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
> >> >>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to
> 2.3.1.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight;
> I'll
> >> apply
> >> >>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>> JB
> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
> >> >>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
> >> >>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> >> >>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
> >> >>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> >>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>> jbono...@apache.org
> >> >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >> jbono...@apache.org
> >> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Daniel Kulp
> >> > dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Claus Ibsen
> >> -
> >> Red Hat, Inc.
> >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> >> Email: cib...@redhat.com
> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> Twitter: davsclaus
> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charles Moulliard
> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --
>
> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
> Committer & Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
> Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>



-- 

Guillaume Nodet

Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/

FuseSource, Integration everywhere
http://fusesource.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Achim Nierbeck
I think a valid "workaround" would be to offer a spring31 feature, I'm
quite sure
we're able to extract that kind of feature from trunk ;)

regarding the road-map proposal, yes this would be really helpful.
I know we have a Matrix showing which version does contain which
dependencies (@Jamie where is it located?)
but somehow it's again a pain to find it.

I think we need to redo our webpage desperately since not all
information can be found easily and the menu
doesn't necessarily relate to the content (e.g. the manual)

regards, Achim

2012/10/9 Charles Moulliard :
> Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about Claus's
> remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
>
> What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
> projects a page containing a table of the different software used and have
> a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
> framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
> Karaf/ServiceMix
> This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of a
> release that we have miss something
>
> Just my 5€ cents.
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
>> >>
>> >> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>> >>
>> >> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine
>> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both
>> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna
>> test tonight).
>> >
>> > I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring
>> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and
>> think about that for 2.4.
>> >
>> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major
>> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>> >
>>
>> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>
>> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>
>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>
>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> JB
>> >>
>> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
>> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with
>> Camel
>> >>>> 2.10.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
>> >>>> maybe) ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
>> Karaf.
>> >>>
>> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
>> >>> since December 2011.
>> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards
>> >>>> JB
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. 
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>> >>>>>> 1.2.1
>> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consi

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
We provide such kind of version matrix in the release notes, but it's a 
good idea to have a wiki page that track this (including the major 
versions alignment, Jira ID for the dependency upgrade, etc).


Anyway, for 2.3.0, I'm working on a spring31 feature.

Regards
JB

On 10/09/2012 08:53 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote:

Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about Claus's
remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.

What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
projects a page containing a table of the different software used and have
a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
Karaf/ServiceMix
This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of a
release that we have miss something

Just my 5€ cents.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp  wrote:


On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 

wrote:



Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.

So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.

I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine

a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both
Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna
test tonight).


I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring

3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and
think about that for 2.4.


I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major

component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.




Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.

But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.

It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
people to configure Karaf to use that.

At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
upgrade for Camel has been painless.




Dan






Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 

wrote:

Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with

Camel

2.10.

Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
maybe) ?



Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from

Karaf.


People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
since December 2011.
And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.




Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. 

wrote:


Hi Claus,

  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE



Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2

release

of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of

these

2 important pieces.





Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
wrote:


Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box?

3.0.x

or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <

jamie.goody...@gmail.com>

wrote:


I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
wrote:


Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <

j...@nanthrax.net>

wrote:


@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
(assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.



I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll

apply

afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com





--
Claus Ibsen
-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen







--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com






--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


--
Daniel Kulp
dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://c

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Charles Moulliard
Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about Claus's
remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.

What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
projects a page containing a table of the different software used and have
a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
Karaf/ServiceMix
This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of a
release that we have miss something

Just my 5€ cents.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp  wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
> >>
> >> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
> >>
> >> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine
> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both
> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna
> test tonight).
> >
> > I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring
> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and
> think about that for 2.4.
> >
> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major
> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
> >
>
> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>
> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>
> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>
> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>
>
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with
> Camel
> >>>> 2.10.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
> >>>> maybe) ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
> Karaf.
> >>>
> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
> >>> since December 2011.
> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. 
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> >>>>>> 1.2.1
> >>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
> >>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
> release
> >>>>> of Spring.
> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of
> these
> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Jamie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box?
> 3.0.x
> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
> jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp  wrote:
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>
>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
>>
>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>
>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine a 
>> Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both Spring 
>> 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna test 
>> tonight).
>
> I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring 
> 3.1.x.I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and think 
> about that for 2.4.
>
> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major 
> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>

Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.

But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.

It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
people to configure Karaf to use that.

At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
upgrade for Camel has been painless.


>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
>>>> 2.10.
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from Karaf.
>>>
>>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
>>> since December 2011.
>>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>>> 1.2.1
>>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
>>>>> of Spring.
>>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
>>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>&

Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Daniel Kulp

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
> 
> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
> 
> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine a 
> Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both Spring 
> 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna test 
> tonight).

I agree with that.I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring 3.1.x. 
   I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and think about 
that for 2.4. 

I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major 
component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.


Dan




> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
>> wrote:
>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
>>> 2.10.
>>> 
>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
>>> maybe) ?
>>> 
>> 
>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from Karaf.
>> 
>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
>> since December 2011.
>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>> 1.2.1
>>>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
>>>> of Spring.
>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com

-- 
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.

So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.

I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine 
a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both 
Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna 
test tonight).


Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
2.10.

Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
maybe) ?



Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from Karaf.

People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
since December 2011.
And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.




Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:


Hi Claus,

  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE



Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
2 important pieces.





Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
wrote:


Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. 
wrote:


I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
wrote:


Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
wrote:


@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
(assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.



I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com





--
Claus Ibsen
-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen







--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com






--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
> 2.10.
>
> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
> maybe) ?
>

Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from Karaf.

People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
since December 2011.
And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.


>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Claus,
>>>
>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>> 1.2.1
>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>
>>
>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
>> of Spring.
>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
>> 2 important pieces.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -
>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jamie G.
Can we do an update to Spring 3.1.x later on with the 2.3.x branch or
would it be too disruptive?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel
> 2.10.
>
> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
> maybe) ?
>
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Claus,
>>>
>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>> 1.2.1
>>> 2.5.6.SEC03
>>> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>>>
>>
>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
>> of Spring.
>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
>> 2 important pieces.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Reply message -
>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -
>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Why not adding spring/3.1 "optional" feature in Karaf 2.3.0 but let 
spring 3.0.7 as "default" spring feature ?


I think it's a good compromise.

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:

Hi Claus,

 From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE



Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
2 important pieces.





Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:

Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:

I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




--
Claus Ibsen
-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen






--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with Camel 
2.10.


Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version 
maybe) ?


Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:

Hi Claus,

 From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE



Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
2 important pieces.





Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:

Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:

I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

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- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
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jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




--
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-
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jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Spring 3.1.x is planned for Karaf 3.0 (with Jetty 8).

For 2.3.x, I'm OK to upgrade to Jetty 7.6.7, but not sure for Spring 
3.1.x. I'm not against, but we should have update before, not at 24 
hours from the release.


Let me make a try on my local working copy.

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:

Hi Claus,

 From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE



Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
2 important pieces.





Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:

Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:

I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:

Great, thanks a lot !

--
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jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
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- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas



Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com




--
Claus Ibsen
-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen






--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G.  wrote:
> Hi Claus,
>
> From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> 1.2.1
> 2.5.6.SEC03
> 3.0.7.RELEASE
>

Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2 release
of Spring.
As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release of these
2 important pieces.




> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>>> I'm always ready!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:
>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>
>>>> - Reply message -
>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> Email: cib...@redhat.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen



-- 
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-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jamie G.
Hi Claus,

>From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
1.2.1
2.5.6.SEC03
3.0.7.RELEASE

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen  wrote:
> Hi
>
> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:
>> I'm always ready!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jamie
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:
>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
>>> wrote:
>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>
>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -
> Red Hat, Inc.
> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> Email: cib...@redhat.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi

What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of the box? 3.0.x
or the newer 3.1.x ?

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G.  wrote:
> I'm always ready!
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:
>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>
>> ----- Reply message -
>> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
>> wrote:
>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>
>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all guys,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com



-- 
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-
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cib...@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
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Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jamie G.
I'm always ready!

Cheers,
Jamie

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, j...@nanthrax.net  wrote:
> Great, thanks a lot !
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Andreas Pieber" 
> To: 
> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>
>
> Hey,
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  
> wrote:
>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>
> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andreas
>
>>
>> Thanks all guys,
>> Regards
>> JB
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbono...@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread j...@nanthrax.net
Great, thanks a lot !

--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://wwx.talend.com

- Reply message -
From: "Andreas Pieber" 
To: 
Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am


Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.

I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas

>
> Thanks all guys,
> Regards
> JB
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Andreas Pieber
Hey,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.

I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review till tonight; I'll apply
afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.

Kind regards,
Andreas

>
> Thanks all guys,
> Regards
> JB
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi Guillaume,

No worries, we can wait for the end of Mina 2.0.7 vote and upgrade in Karaf.

I gonna create the Jira about that (in order to avoid to forget it ;)).

Regards
JB

On 10/08/2012 08:44 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:

I hate to say this, but I wonder if it would be worthwhile to wait an
additional 24 hours for a mina 2.0.7 release.  Mina 2.0.5 broke
compatibility and that's the one we're on now, which means some
applications may just break if they're using an important method which has
been accidentally deleted.  Mina 2.0.6 has been released last week but
contains an important regression.  Mina 2.0.7 is under vote.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:


Hi all,

We are now very close to the Karaf 2.3.0 release.

We have 5 Jira still opened.

I'm working on KARAF-1853 and KARAF-1354, and also on the itests on
different platforms.

@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.

@Jamie, I think we will be able to cut off Karaf 2.3.0 release tonight
(GMT+1 time). Are you available for the release ?

Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com







--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com


Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-07 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I hate to say this, but I wonder if it would be worthwhile to wait an
additional 24 hours for a mina 2.0.7 release.  Mina 2.0.5 broke
compatibility and that's the one we're on now, which means some
applications may just break if they're using an important method which has
been accidentally deleted.  Mina 2.0.6 has been released last week but
contains an important regression.  Mina 2.0.7 is under vote.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are now very close to the Karaf 2.3.0 release.
>
> We have 5 Jira still opened.
>
> I'm working on KARAF-1853 and KARAF-1354, and also on the itests on
> different platforms.
>
> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned to
> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.
>
> @Jamie, I think we will be able to cut off Karaf 2.3.0 release tonight
> (GMT+1 time). Are you available for the release ?
>
> Thanks all guys,
> Regards
> JB
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbono...@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>



-- 

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Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/

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Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close

2012-10-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

Hi all,

We are now very close to the Karaf 2.3.0 release.

We have 5 Jira still opened.

I'm working on KARAF-1853 and KARAF-1354, and also on the itests on 
different platforms.


@Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752 (assigned 
to you) ? If you are busy today, I think we can postpone to 2.3.1.


@Jamie, I think we will be able to cut off Karaf 2.3.0 release tonight 
(GMT+1 time). Are you available for the release ?


Thanks all guys,
Regards
JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com