Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-30 10.34:


Because I will pay in HUF I will have a invoice in HUF not EUR. Maybe I
can write out the invoice to my company, then the Team OpenOffice.org
e.V. can pay it in EUR to me.


best is to talk with Matthias Hütsch directly here in Budapest, he knows 
more. :)


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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floeff wrote:
> Hi Kami,
> 
> Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-25 12.50:
> > Please check the attached file. It is related to FD and it is a preview.
> 
> looks good to me! Except that one gull's wing is cut off on the left side ;)

This is prabably because the graphic is smaller than the disc.

Imagine a white circle around the graphic as broad as the distance between "cut 
off" wing and border and you will get our "normal" gull orb.

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Dr. Bernhard Dippold]

floeff wrote:
> Hi Kami,
> 
> Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-25 12.50:
> > Please check the attached file. It is related to FD and it is a preview.
> 
> looks good to me! Except that one gull's wing is cut off on the left side ;)

This is prabably because the graphic is smaller than the disc.

Imagine a white circle around the graphic as broad as the distance between "cut 
off" wing and border and you will get our "normal" gull orb.

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila]

  
  
Hi Kami,

Looks good! thanks for taking care of everything!

Regards,
Rosana
On 08/26/10 13:50, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi
  Kami,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-25 12.50:
  
  Please check the attached file. It is
related to FD and it is a preview.

  
  
  looks good to me! Except that one gull's wing is cut off on the
  left side ;)
  
  
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-25 12.50:

Please check the attached file. It is related to FD and it is a preview.


looks good to me! Except that one gull's wing is cut off on the left side ;)

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Matthias Huetsch]

Hi Florian, Kami,

As discussed, Team OpenOffice.or e.V. (me as their treasurer) could 
directly pay the invoice, of course. It is just that we are not a 
company, and don't have a "VAT number" (or anything similar). If that's 
not hindering, here are the address details:


Team OpenOffice.org e.V.
Haferkamp 2
22081 Hamburg

Otherwise, you could send the invoice written out to you via snail mail 
to that address, and I pay that invoice from here (but preferably in EUR).


Hope that helps,
Matthias

On 16.08.10 17:05, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-16 16.42:


I rang up one manufacturer, and preorder the stuffs.


thanks a lot for your work, that's great!


We will have blue flying discs, white about 13cm big gulls. As I
mentioned before I need the gfx that we put onto the discs.

One good piece of news we do not have to pay deposit.


So that means we only pay upon arrival of the discs?


Also is it possible to write out invoice for a company in the EU, and it
is possible to pay in HUF or in Euros.

For this I need the name of company, and other financial data such as EU
VAT (or tax) number.

Thank you for your attention.


The budget authorizers for the marketing budget (Cor, Italo, Peter and
me) have agreed on reserving 1.000 € for the flying discs, so anything
up to that amount can be paid.

I'm Cc'ing Matthias Hütsch, the treasurer, who can provide details on
how to proceed. I guess it will be allright if you order them on your
name and then send in the receipt/invoice to him, so he can refund you -
but better wait for his reply, just to be on the safe side.

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Re: [marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

[Drew Jensen]

 On 08/20/2010 08:38 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:

On 08/18/2010 04:48 PM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote:

   Hi Lars!

I asked this,

I will inform you as soon as I have answer.

Anyway the linked image looks broken a bit to me:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010

The circular text is overlapping.

Hmm.  Obviously it is fine for me in Firefox.  I notice konqueror has a
little trouble with it, though.  If another format is needed, say which
one.  And I can add it.



Hola Lars,

That image sure looks broken to me also - using Firefox/Ubuntu
here is a screen shot from just now
http://ooo.baseanswers.com/circle-break-1.png

Maybe it's a font thing?

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Re: [marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

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On 08/18/2010 04:48 PM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote:
>   Hi Lars!
> 
> I asked this,
> 
> I will inform you as soon as I have answer.
> 
> Anyway the linked image looks broken a bit to me:
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010
> 
> The circular text is overlapping.

Hmm.  Obviously it is fine for me in Firefox.  I notice konqueror has a
little trouble with it, though.  If another format is needed, say which
one.  And I can add it.

/Lars

> KAMI
> 
> On 2010-08-18 11:08, Lars Nooden wrote:
>> Hi, Kami,
>>
>> In your quest for printing flying discs, is there a local shop there
>> able to do 4cm or 5cm circular, weather-proof (vinyl or MOPP) 2-color
>> stickers?
>>
>> We have a logo but no print shop,
>>
>>http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> /Lars
>>
>> http://www.inquisitr.com/22264/url-shorteners-the-herpes-of-the-web/
>>
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-18 15.44:


Then I started the process with that logo.


thanks a lot, your help is really much appreciated!

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Re: [marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi Lars!

I asked this,

I will inform you as soon as I have answer.

Anyway the linked image looks broken a bit to me:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010
The circular text is overlapping.

KAMI

On 2010-08-18 11:08, Lars Nooden wrote:

  Hi, Kami,

In your quest for printing flying discs, is there a local shop there
able to do 4cm or 5cm circular, weather-proof (vinyl or MOPP) 2-color
stickers?

We have a logo but no print shop,

  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010

Regards,

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi All,

Then I started the process with that logo.

KAMI

On 2010-08-18 12:37, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi
  Stefan,
  
  
  Stefan Taxhet wrote on 2010-08-18 12.35:
  
  The logo is not involved and for me there
is no need rethink the image.


If there are no serious reasons to change it I would recommend
to give

Kami the go-ahead for the production.

  
  
  thanks for the feedback. I agree, so, Kami, let's do it. :-)
  
  
  Thanks!
  
  Florian
  
  


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi,

Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-18 10.56:

I am a bit forced to provide the final logo ASAP. Do you have decision
about the sample that I sent to you yesterday?


basically, it looks ok to me, however:

- I don't know if we can add text to the symbol as it's protected.


I have no stake in the actual design work. But yes, the prepared artwork 
for the flying disc image to be produced for this special event is ok. 
Let's go ahead.


- There is no official OOo logo font, unfortunately. We've been trying 
to get a free font used, to no avail. It is IMHO a commercial font that 
has been modified for the logo.


The selection of a companion font is work in progress in the branding 
initiative. To me the font used for the flying disc image looks good.


So, either we only use the symbol, or we combine it with the official 
OOo logo?


The logo is not involved and for me there is no need rethink the image.

If there are no serious reasons to change it I would recommend to give 
Kami the go-ahead for the production.


Greetings
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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On 08/18/2010 12:50 PM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote:
>   Try to download it, 

Ok.  Downloading shows the image.

 
http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/*checkout*/www/www/trademark/symbol_color.svg?rev=1.2

I wonder why the preview is not working.

Regards,
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-18 10.56:

I am a bit forced to provide the final logo ASAP. Do you have decision
about the sample that I sent to you yesterday?


basically, it looks ok to me, however:

- I don't know if we can add text to the symbol as it's protected.

- There is no official OOo logo font, unfortunately. We've been trying 
to get a free font used, to no avail. It is IMHO a commercial font that 
has been modified for the logo.


So, either we only use the symbol, or we combine it with the official 
OOo logo?


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[marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

[Lars Nooden]

Hi, Kami,

In your quest for printing flying discs, is there a local shop there
able to do 4cm or 5cm circular, weather-proof (vinyl or MOPP) 2-color
stickers?

We have a logo but no print shop,

  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010

Regards,

/Lars

http://www.inquisitr.com/22264/url-shorteners-the-herpes-of-the-web/

http://www.monkinetic.com/2010/06/preserving-the-link-economy-in-the-age-of-url-shorteners.html

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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On 08/18/2010 11:56 AM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote:
> I am a bit forced to provide the final logo ASAP. Do you have decision about 
> the 
> sample that I sent to you yesterday?

>>> http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/www/www/trademark/symbol_color.svg?view=markup
>>>  

The page linked to above says: "Non-viewable file contents hidden"

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/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

  
  
ok!

KAMI

On 2010-08-17 11:34, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi
  Kami,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-17 09.38:
  
  In this case may I ask the manufacturer
for more discs it they can

reduce the per piece price :o)

  
  
  well, the 1.000 € are just reserved in case, but you do not need
  to spend all the money. :-) I guess 500 flying discs are enough.
  
  
  Florian
  
  


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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-17 09.38:

In this case may I ask the manufacturer for more discs it they can
reduce the per piece price :o)


well, the 1.000 € are just reserved in case, but you do not need to 
spend all the money. :-) I guess 500 flying discs are enough.


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

 Hi!

In this case may I ask the manufacturer for more discs it they can
reduce the per piece price :o)


KAMI
> The budget authorizers for the marketing budget (Cor, Italo, Peter and
> me) have agreed on reserving 1.000 € for the flying discs, so anything
> up to that amount can be paid.
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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-16 16.42:


I rang up one manufacturer, and preorder the stuffs.


thanks a lot for your work, that's great!


We will have blue flying discs, white about 13cm big gulls. As I
mentioned before I need the gfx that we put onto the discs.

One good piece of news we do not have to pay deposit.


So that means we only pay upon arrival of the discs?


Also is it possible to write out invoice for a company in the EU, and it
is possible to pay in HUF or in Euros.

For this I need the name of company, and other financial data such as EU
VAT (or tax) number.

Thank you for your attention.


The budget authorizers for the marketing budget (Cor, Italo, Peter and 
me) have agreed on reserving 1.000 € for the flying discs, so anything 
up to that amount can be paid.


I'm Cc'ing Matthias Hütsch, the treasurer, who can provide details on 
how to proceed. I guess it will be allright if you order them on your 
name and then send in the receipt/invoice to him, so he can refund you - 
but better wait for his reply, just to be on the safe side.


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-16 15.49:

I think blue is foldable fd is looks cool. Thee blue color looks
beautyful. I think the white gulls will look so good on it.


thanks!


I got the design plan of it, but please where can I found the seaguls
vector graphic? I have to provide the exact logo in vector format what
we want to see on the dics. Please send it to me ASAP.


I don't have a source for the seagulls only, but I guess Rosana or 
Stefan can provide them. Cc'ing them. :-)


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi!

I think blue is foldable fd is looks cool. Thee blue color looks
beautyful. I think the white gulls will look so good on it.

I got the design plan of it, but please where can I found the
seaguls vector graphic? I have to provide the exact logo in vector
format what we want to see on the dics. Please send it to me ASAP.

Best regards,
KAMI

On 2010-08-14 13:40, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi
  Kami,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-13 11.54:
  
  
  So have we decided, we need

* standard flying disc or

* foldable flying disc


We would select

* blue disc with white gulls or

* white disc with blue gulls


Standard discs are less than 510 Euros, foldable discs are less
than 470

Euros (quote 500).


I can order it on Monday (or today).

  
  
  thanks a lot for your efforts, they are much appreciated!
  
  
  I have no real preference on the type of disc. For the design, I
  prefer blue disc with white gulls, but I'll leave the final choice
  to this list and you. :-)
  
  
  I've talked to the budget authorizers, and we agreed on reserving
  1.000 € out of the general marketing budget for the flying discs,
  just to be on the safe side.
  
  
  Regarding the money transfer, best is to talk to Matthias Hütsch
  (the treasurer) directly. He knows best how to transfer the money.
  
  
  Thanks for all your support and efforts, that's much appreciated!
  
  Florian
  
  


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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-13 11.54:


So have we decided, we need
* standard flying disc or
* foldable flying disc

We would select
* blue disc with white gulls or
* white disc with blue gulls

Standard discs are less than 510 Euros, foldable discs are less than 470
Euros (quote 500).

I can order it on Monday (or today).


thanks a lot for your efforts, they are much appreciated!

I have no real preference on the type of disc. For the design, I prefer 
blue disc with white gulls, but I'll leave the final choice to this list 
and you. :-)


I've talked to the budget authorizers, and we agreed on reserving 1.000 
€ out of the general marketing budget for the flying discs, just to be 
on the safe side.


Regarding the money transfer, best is to talk to Matthias Hütsch (the 
treasurer) directly. He knows best how to transfer the money.


Thanks for all your support and efforts, that's much appreciated!
Florian

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami, *

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai schrieb:

  Hi!

So can you send me the high resolution logo?


I assume that Rosana will be able to send a high resolution file of the 
final design as proposed in the wiki:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOorg_frisbee.png

If not I can with a similar design. Please tell me the necessary size of 
the graphic and resolution (300dpi?) or the optimal size in pixel.


So have we decided, we need
* standard flying disc or
* foldable flying disc


Even if I prefer standard discs because I think they fly better and look 
better on the photos we want to take as basis for our marketing 
campaign, general tendency here was towards foldable discs (smaller in 
size, easier to take with you).


We would select



* blue disc with white gulls or
* white disc with blue gulls


If we can define the color to be used (do you know if the printer needs 
CMYK or Pantone colors?), I still prefer white discs with the original 
OOo blue as colored area.


Blue discs with white graphics will most likely not reach our official 
blue tone - probably they will not even come close to it.


Standard discs are less than 510 Euros, foldable discs are less than 470
Euros (quote 500).


This means that each foldable disc is about 8 cent less expensive (0,94€ 
vs. 1,02€). This  has to be taken into account, when discussing the 
different disc types.



I can order it on Monday (or today).


I hope we can decide until Sonday evening (by discussion or poll), then 
the order should be placed.


Just for the statistics: I prefer the white standard flying discs with 
OOo-colored graphic even if the foldable ones are cheaper.


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

 Hi!

So can you send me the high resolution logo?

So have we decided, we need
* standard flying disc or
* foldable flying disc

We would select
* blue disc with white gulls or
* white disc with blue gulls

Standard discs are less than 510 Euros, foldable discs are less than 470
Euros (quote 500).

I can order it on Monday (or today).

Thanks,
KAMI

On 2010-08-11 09:42, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi Kami,
>
> Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-10 23.42:
>> I havent tried, but I will ring up te manufacturer.
>
> thanks a lot! Can you let me know the exact quote (price) as soon as
> you have it? Then I'll take care we get funding ;)
>
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

  
  
Hi!

They said the texture is like a backpack. It is durable but it does
not fly as good as plastic one. However I think it is good enough.

Also I got another offer:

RE:  130625 HUF (including VAT)


Best regards,
KAMI

On 2010-08-11 09:42, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi
  Kami,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-10 23.42:
  
  I havent tried, but I will ring up te
manufacturer.

  
  
  thanks a lot! Can you let me know the exact quote (price) as soon
  as you have it? Then I'll take care we get funding ;)
  
  
  Florian
  
  


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

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Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-10 23.42:

I havent tried, but I will ring up te manufacturer.


thanks a lot! Can you let me know the exact quote (price) as soon as you 
have it? Then I'll take care we get funding ;)


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi!

On 2010-08-10 10:06, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-09 23.16:
  
  
  I try to collect all available information
regarding to frying discs. I

asked several manufacturer, here is the offers (500 piece fd,
one color,

6 cm x 6 cm size of emblem):

  
  
  thanks a lot for having a look at it, that's great!
  
  
  http://www.acepromotion.hu/szorakozas/10.014.600-sszehajthato-frizbi-kek.html?flypage=


Acepromotion:

126875 HUF (including VAT)


Gifton:

156500 HUF (including VAT)


Plastic F disc (see attachment):


Reklámtárgy express:

168125 HUF (including VAT)

  
  
  I prefer the foldable ones, but I have no clue "how they feel" or
  how good the fly. :-) Did you have a chance to get a sample, or
  does anyone know how good foldables are?
I havent tried, but I will ring up te manufacturer.

KAMI

  
  
  1 Euro is around 280-290 HUF this time.

  
  
  So, we're talking about 400-600 € including printing and delivery,
  is that right?
  
  
  Florian
  
  


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila]

  
  
Hi Kami, Florian, all, 
On 08/10/10 10:06, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
  
  
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-09 23.16:
  
  
  I try to collect all available information
regarding to frying discs. I

asked several manufacturer, here is the offers (500 piece fd,
one color,

6 cm x 6 cm size of emblem):

  
  
  thanks a lot for having a look at it, that's great!
  
  
  http://www.acepromotion.hu/szorakozas/10.014.600-sszehajthato-frizbi-kek.html?flypage=


Acepromotion:

126875 HUF (including VAT)


Gifton:

156500 HUF (including VAT)


Plastic F disc (see attachment):


Reklámtárgy express:

168125 HUF (including VAT)

  
  
  I prefer the foldable ones, but I have no clue "how they feel" or
  how good the fly. :-) Did you have a chance to get a sample, or
  does anyone know how good foldables are?
  

+1, the foldables are easier to transport.

Do you need any help with the graphics?

When should we order the discs to have them at the OOoCon?



  
  1 Euro is around 280-290 HUF this time.

  
  
  So, we're talking about 400-600 € including printing and delivery,
  is that right?
  

It would be great to know the exact price.

Thanks for organizing this Kami!

Regards,
Rosana

  
  Florian
  
  



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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-08-09 23.16:


I try to collect all available information regarding to frying discs. I
asked several manufacturer, here is the offers (500 piece fd, one color,
6 cm x 6 cm size of emblem):


thanks a lot for having a look at it, that's great!


http://www.acepromotion.hu/szorakozas/10.014.600-sszehajthato-frizbi-kek.html?flypage=

Acepromotion:
126875 HUF (including VAT)

Gifton:
156500 HUF (including VAT)

Plastic F disc (see attachment):

Reklámtárgy express:
168125 HUF (including VAT)


I prefer the foldable ones, but I have no clue "how they feel" or how 
good the fly. :-) Did you have a chance to get a sample, or does anyone 
know how good foldables are?



1 Euro is around 280-290 HUF this time.


So, we're talking about 400-600 € including printing and delivery, is 
that right?


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Kami,

Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote on 2010-07-30 16.20:


I got the first offers from the manufacturers.


thanks a lot!


There is two type of discs
a) normal plastic disc
b) textil with plastic coat, foldable


Do you have pictures of these discs, how they look like?


with one color emblem about 1-1,1 Euro.

I will collect all offers and inform you soon. The delivery deadline is
7-14 days depending on manufacturer.


Thanks a lot! Looks good to me. I'd propose to produce between 500 € and 
750 €, and currently I check the available budget.


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Rosana Ardila]

Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi Kami,

This is great, it means we have some time to decide. Could you post
a link to the providers just to have a look at the discs?

Thanks again for your efforts :)


Regards,
Rosana

On 07/30/10 16:20, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote:

  
  Hi!
  
  I got the first offers from the manufacturers. 
  There is two type of discs
  a) normal plastic disc
  b) textil with plastic coat, foldable
  
  with one color emblem about 1-1,1 Euro.
  
  I will collect all offers and inform you soon. The delivery
  deadline is 7-14 days depending on manufacturer.
  
  
  KAMI
  
  On 2010-07-29 14:10, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hi,



Rosana Ardila wrote on 2010-07-29 14.05: 
Kami proposed to find the discs produced
  in Hungary, that could help, as 
  we could reduce the risks of not having the discs at the time
  of the OOoCon. 
  I think this alternative is better, since the provider I have
  can't 
  assure me that the discs will be in Budapest on time. 


that would be wonderful, indeed. Thanks, Kami! 

I'll try to follow the thread on this list, but if I miss
something, feel free to ping me directly. 

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

Title: Szalai Kálmán


  
  
Hi!

I got the first offers from the manufacturers. 
There is two type of discs
a) normal plastic disc
b) textil with plastic coat, foldable

with one color emblem about 1-1,1 Euro.

I will collect all offers and inform you soon. The delivery deadline
is 7-14 days depending on manufacturer.


KAMI

On 2010-07-29 14:10, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
  
  
  Rosana Ardila wrote on 2010-07-29 14.05:
  
  Kami proposed to find the discs produced
in Hungary, that could help, as

we could reduce the risks of not having the discs at the time of
the OOoCon.

I think this alternative is better, since the provider I have
can't

assure me that the discs will be in Budapest on time.

  
  
  that would be wonderful, indeed. Thanks, Kami!
  
  
  I'll try to follow the thread on this list, but if I miss
  something, feel free to ping me directly.
  
  
  Florian
  
  


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Rosana Ardila wrote on 2010-07-29 14.05:

Kami proposed to find the discs produced in Hungary, that could help, as
we could reduce the risks of not having the discs at the time of the OOoCon.
I think this alternative is better, since the provider I have can't
assure me that the discs will be in Budapest on time.


that would be wonderful, indeed. Thanks, Kami!

I'll try to follow the thread on this list, but if I miss something, 
feel free to ping me directly.


Florian

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Rosana Ardila]

  
  
Hi Florian, all,

Kami proposed to find the discs produced in Hungary, that could
help, as we could reduce the risks of not having the discs at the
time of the OOoCon.
I think this alternative is better, since the provider I have can't
assure me that the discs will be in Budapest on time.

Regards,
Rosana

On 07/29/10 14:00, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
  
  
  Rosana Ardila wrote on 2010-07-28 18.39:
  
  
  I added a last proposal whit the dates
2000-2010 next to the URL (see

the wiki [1]). I chose the blue one because white is an
uncomplicated

color and there isn't much time to loose.


I talked to the provider today and even if we have a decision by
Friday

morning (CET) it isn't completely sure that the discs will
arrive the

31rst in Budapest.


So I don't want to force a decision, but if we want to have the
discs

for the Conference the decision should be made as soon as
possible.

There's still a small risk that the discs aren't on time in
Budapest.


I think that if we don't have a decision by tomorrow 12:00 CET,
it might

be better to drop the idea, or try to realize it for a different
date

than the conference. I wasn't able to find someone in Budapest
who could

produce the discs.

  
  
  sorry for stepping in so late, but my exams kept my quite busy,
  today I had an OOo interview and over the weekend I'll be in
  Stuttgart, doing an OOoDeV meeting - so I can't look into anything
  before Monday.
  
  
  Thanks to everyone for their contribution, and thanks to Rosana
  for driving this! If we can have flying discs for the conference,
  that would be great, and I guess Peter and I would be happy to
  authorize the budget.
  
  
  If, however, we are too short in time, we can't change things -
  our day has only 24 hours. :(
  
  
  Anyways, would be great if we could have the discs! ;)
  
  
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Rosana Ardila wrote on 2010-07-28 18.39:


I added a last proposal whit the dates 2000-2010 next to the URL (see
the wiki [1]). I chose the blue one because white is an uncomplicated
color and there isn't much time to loose.

I talked to the provider today and even if we have a decision by Friday
morning (CET) it isn't completely sure that the discs will arrive the
31rst in Budapest.

So I don't want to force a decision, but if we want to have the discs
for the Conference the decision should be made as soon as possible.
There's still a small risk that the discs aren't on time in Budapest.

I think that if we don't have a decision by tomorrow 12:00 CET, it might
be better to drop the idea, or try to realize it for a different date
than the conference. I wasn't able to find someone in Budapest who could
produce the discs.


sorry for stepping in so late, but my exams kept my quite busy, today I 
had an OOo interview and over the weekend I'll be in Stuttgart, doing an 
OOoDeV meeting - so I can't look into anything before Monday.


Thanks to everyone for their contribution, and thanks to Rosana for 
driving this! If we can have flying discs for the conference, that would 
be great, and I guess Peter and I would be happy to authorize the budget.


If, however, we are too short in time, we can't change things - our day 
has only 24 hours. :(


Anyways, would be great if we could have the discs! ;)

Florian

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation --> Decision needed asap

[Rosana Ardila]

  
  
All,

I  added a last proposal whit the dates 2000-2010 next to the URL
(see the wiki [1]). I chose the blue one because white is an
uncomplicated color and there isn't  much time to loose.

I talked to the provider today and even if we have a decision by
Friday morning (CET)  it isn't completely sure that the discs will
arrive the 31rst in Budapest.

So I don't want to force a decision, but if we want to have the
discs for the Conference the decision should be made as soon as
possible. There's still a small risk that the discs aren't on time
in Budapest.

I think that if we don't have a decision by tomorrow 12:00 CET, it
might be better to drop the idea, or try to realize it for a
different date than the conference. I wasn't able to find someone in
Budapest who could produce the discs.

Regards,
Rosana

[1]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc#Proposal

On 07/27/10 23:39, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hi Rosana, *
  
  
  Rosana Ardila Biela schrieb:
  
  I did an additional update to the wiki
with two proposals for the discs.

  
  (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc)
  
  
  Thanks a lot - reading your other mail in this thread I agree that
  we don't need to add the logo.
  
  
  A string "2000 - 2010" could be added nevertheless as additional
  value for the people holding the discs in their hands. Our
  campaign will better be kept in mind if we combine it with the
  Anniversary ("Do you remember the flying discs some years ago?" -
  "Yes, wasn't it this great campaign for the 10th Anniversary of
  OpenOffice.org?").
  
  
  This string is just a suggestion, but for the colors I strongly
  suggest to use the original blue tone (at least it's CMYK
  representation) on white discs.
  
  
  I don't see an advantage for the white symbol on the blue discs
  (we should include the inverted gull orb in the guidelines),
  especially if this can't support our branding color.
  
  
  Best regards
  
  
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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation (now examples)

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On 07/27/2010 06:50 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
> I did an additional update to the wiki with two proposals for the discs.

Nice.  Either one would be good.  If these are for the 10th anniversary,
then maybe a line opposite the address could be used for that.

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation (now examples)

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Hi Rosana, *

Rosana Ardila Biela schrieb:

I did an additional update to the wiki with two proposals for the discs.

(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc)

Thanks a lot - reading your other mail in this thread I agree that we 
don't need to add the logo.


A string "2000 - 2010" could be added nevertheless as additional value 
for the people holding the discs in their hands. Our campaign will 
better be kept in mind if we combine it with the Anniversary ("Do you 
remember the flying discs some years ago?" - "Yes, wasn't it this great 
campaign for the 10th Anniversary of OpenOffice.org?").


This string is just a suggestion, but for the colors I strongly suggest 
to use the original blue tone (at least it's CMYK representation) on 
white discs.


I don't see an advantage for the white symbol on the blue discs (we 
should include the inverted gull orb in the guidelines), especially if 
this can't support our branding color.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation (now examples)

[Rosana Ardila Biela]

I did an additional update to the wiki with two proposals for the discs.

cheers,
Rosana
Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:

Hi Lars,

I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now.

Regards,
Rosana
Lars Nooden wrote:

On 07/26/2010 05:34 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
 

I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
list. You can find the information here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc



The link under the title Quotation, does not go to any pricing
information or any details about the specifications for the discs.

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila Biela]

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Lars, *

Lars Nooden schrieb:

On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:

I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now.

...

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc


Thanks.  0,44 EUR apeice seems ok.


Please remember printing costs, postage and tax. As Rosana stated on 
the wiki page, the costs are about 480€ per 500 discs, meaning 0,96 
EUR per disc.




Do they fly well?  The spec says 160
mm, but how much do they weigh?  You need over 150 g to play disc golf
decently, if that is a consideration.


In this size they will probably not fly as good as larger and heavier 
discs.


Perhaps we should think about ordering larger discs: For 220mm size 
they charge only 2 cent more, but printing size increases from 100mm 
to 140mm.


Please also keep in mind that every additional color adds to the final 
price.


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila Biela]

Hi Bernhard, all
Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Lars, Rosana, all,

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

[...]
Lars Nooden schrieb:

[...]
How would you recommend combining the new logo with two items of text?

a. 'www.openoffice.org'
b. some variation of 10th anniversary 2000 - 2010


I would think of the logo in the middle, "Tenth anniversary: 2000 -
2010" bent at the top and "http://www.openoffice.org"; bent at the base
of the disk.


I did a draft using the disc (changed color) from Rosana's link:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Flying_disc_proposal.png


At the right and left we could add the gull orb, if this fits visually.
I think this kind of disc looks good, but in my opinion it doesn't work 
as well as the gull symbol designs for the idea of making an 
"anniversary photo album". If you read the proposal on the wiki it is 
about passing it through and making photos of it, all over the world. 
The symbol hast the advantage, that you can recognize it from far away, 
it uses the round form and is more catchy. I think if we want to include 
the logo and a sentence talking about the 10 years other giveaways could 
do the job. The disc aren't the real marketing campaign, the real 
marketing campaign are the photos made with them. That's why I think 
that having a very clear symbol that fits perfectly in the form is the 
best alternative.



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Rosana


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila Biela]

Bernhard, all,
Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Rosana, *

Rosana Ardila Biela schrieb:

Hi,

I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
list. You can find the information here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc


I can't follow the link at the wiki page:
.../search?CreateDocument seems to be the container for a frame you 
wanted to share with us.


At the website there are different discs. Which one do you think of?


500 discs delivered to Budapest cost 428,40 EUR


Do we need delivery to Budapest? As the website is located in Germany, 
perhaps someone could take them with him/her?


Do you have any clue about the size of the package? I know of someone 
driving with the car - should we ask him?
I talked with Florian, I think taking a car is complicated and I assume 
500 discs are a lot, Florian told me about his experiences with dvds... 
That's why I asked for the delivery.




As there isn't a lot of time (to have the discs delivered to Budapest on
the 30th of August we'd have to order them the 27th of July) it would be
good to make a decision as soon as possible.


I'd prefer being involved in design decisions, because this would have 
impact on our branding - especially if images of the flying discs 
should be shared around the world.

As you see you are being involved


But if time is too short, I can't help here.

Just a remark:

If I read the wiki page right, you want to take blue discs with white 
logo and gull orb (plain or 3D?), so the color will not even be near 
to our official blue tone.


On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so 
costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean 
about 30 Cent per disc).


I don't know which way to prefer - but I'd rather stay with less discs 
in our official colors than with more discs that doesn't help our 
branding efforts (even if the fact of using other background colors 
than the official ones is not yet explicitly mentioned in the branding 
guidelines draft).
I think it's late for having the exact matching colors. I think that 
even if the blue is not perfect the idea behind the disc is stronger and 
it's a cool marketing giveaway. In my opinion is better this blue than 
not having the discs. If someone can get another quotation for the right 
color that would be delivered on time I will also prefer that.


Also 500 pieces aren't a lot. With more time if the idea is good we can 
produce the ones with the perfect branding.




If anyone can get a better offer that can still be delivered on time,
that would be great.


It's in fact a matter of pricing and time, but perhaps there is a shop 
in Hungary able to do such disks? Is anyone of the OOoCon team around 
here?
If someone can help us that'd be great, but I think we can't wait too 
long for taking the decision.

Regards,
Rosana


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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Lars Noodén]

On 07/27/2010 09:29 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> In this size they will probably not fly as good as larger and heavier
> discs.

Most of the sport disks seem to be at least 175g if they are small in
diameter.

> Perhaps we should think about ordering larger discs: For 220mm size they
> charge only 2 cent more, but printing size increases from 100mm to 140mm.

That's a much larger area to work with.

That's a nice draft:

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Flying_disc_proposal.png

The protocol prefix "http://"; is not needed on the disk.  The host name
is sufficient, and with the fewer letters, slightly larger text is
possible.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Lars, *

Lars Nooden schrieb:

On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:

I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now.

...

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc


Thanks.  0,44 EUR apeice seems ok.


Please remember printing costs, postage and tax. As Rosana stated on the 
wiki page, the costs are about 480€ per 500 discs, meaning 0,96 EUR per 
disc.




Do they fly well?  The spec says 160
mm, but how much do they weigh?  You need over 150 g to play disc golf
decently, if that is a consideration.


In this size they will probably not fly as good as larger and heavier discs.

Perhaps we should think about ordering larger discs: For 220mm size they 
charge only 2 cent more, but printing size increases from 100mm to 140mm.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Lars, Rosana, all,

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

[...]
Lars Nooden schrieb:

[...]
How would you recommend combining the new logo with two items of text?

a. 'www.openoffice.org'
b. some variation of 10th anniversary 2000 - 2010


I would think of the logo in the middle, "Tenth anniversary: 2000 -
2010" bent at the top and "http://www.openoffice.org"; bent at the base
of the disk.


I did a draft using the disc (changed color) from Rosana's link:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Flying_disc_proposal.png


At the right and left we could add the gull orb, if this fits visually.


I tried some combinations, but didn't find a good one.

As I don't want to reduce the size of the logo even more (restriction to 
a 100mm diameter for the graphic), there is no place at the side of the 
logo. Putting two orbs above and below the logo makes the space on the 
disc look crowded - an impression I wanted to avoid.


And in silk screening shadows and gradients could become problematic,

This design would stay close to the minimalistic design used in the 
start center and might even fit to the future branding design.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Lars Nooden]

On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
> I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now.
...
>>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc

Thanks.  0,44 EUR apeice seems ok.  Do they fly well?  The spec says 160
mm, but how much do they weigh?  You need over 150 g to play disc golf
decently, if that is a consideration.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Rosana Ardila Biela]

Hi Lars,

I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now.

Regards,
Rosana
Lars Nooden wrote:

On 07/26/2010 05:34 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
  

I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
list. You can find the information here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc



The link under the title Quotation, does not go to any pricing
information or any details about the specifications for the discs.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Bernhard Dippold]

sorry, forgot the link to the mail on the branding list:

[1]: 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=branding&msgNo=358


Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

Hi Lars, *

Lars Nooden schrieb:

On 07/26/2010 10:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so
costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean
about 30 Cent per disc).


Just to be clear, is it the case that the color versions of the new
branding require a 2-color printing process to be rendered correctly?


Rosana posted the results from the IRC meeting (2010-07-02) [1]:

" - *black and white logo*: we have a version for black and white
printers, it isn't an official logo."

If the black only logo is not an official one, the white only shouldn't
be either.




I'd prefer being involved in design decisions ...


How would you recommend combining the new logo with two items of text?

a. 'www.openoffice.org'
b. some variation of 10th anniversary 2000 - 2010


I would think of the logo in the middle, "Tenth anniversary: 2000 -
2010" bent at the top and "http://www.openoffice.org"; bent at the base
of the disk.

At the right and left we could add the gull orb, if this fits visually.

Superposing the gull orb and the logo is not allowed by the branding
guidelines.

Don't know if I have the time for a draft tonight - perhaps I'll give it
a try.

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Lars, *

Lars Nooden schrieb:

On 07/26/2010 10:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so
costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean
about 30 Cent per disc).


Just to be clear, is it the case that the color versions of the new
branding require a 2-color printing process to be rendered correctly?


Rosana posted the results from the IRC meeting (2010-07-02) [1]:

" - *black and white logo*: we have a version for black and white 
printers, it isn't an official logo."


If the black only logo is not an official one, the white only shouldn't 
be either.





I'd prefer being involved in design decisions ...


How would you recommend combining the new logo with two items of text?

a. 'www.openoffice.org'
b. some variation of 10th anniversary 2000 - 2010


I would think of the logo in the middle, "Tenth anniversary: 2000 - 
2010" bent at the top and "http://www.openoffice.org"; bent at the base 
of the disk.


At the right and left we could add the gull orb, if this fits visually.

Superposing the gull orb and the logo is not allowed by the branding 
guidelines.


Don't know if I have the time for a draft tonight - perhaps I'll give it 
a try.


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Lars Nooden]

On 07/26/2010 10:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so
> costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean
> about 30 Cent per disc).

Just to be clear, is it the case that the color versions of the new
branding require a 2-color printing process to be rendered correctly?

> I'd prefer being involved in design decisions ...

How would you recommend combining the new logo with two items of text?

a. 'www.openoffice.org'
b. some variation of 10th anniversary 2000 - 2010

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Bernhard Dippold]

Hi Rosana, *

Rosana Ardila Biela schrieb:

Hi,

I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
list. You can find the information here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc


I can't follow the link at the wiki page:
.../search?CreateDocument seems to be the container for a frame you 
wanted to share with us.


At the website there are different discs. Which one do you think of?


500 discs delivered to Budapest cost 428,40 EUR


Do we need delivery to Budapest? As the website is located in Germany, 
perhaps someone could take them with him/her?


Do you have any clue about the size of the package? I know of someone 
driving with the car - should we ask him?


As there isn't a lot of time (to have the discs delivered to Budapest on
the 30th of August we'd have to order them the 27th of July) it would be
good to make a decision as soon as possible.


I'd prefer being involved in design decisions, because this would have 
impact on our branding - especially if images of the flying discs should 
be shared around the world.


But if time is too short, I can't help here.

Just a remark:

If I read the wiki page right, you want to take blue discs with white 
logo and gull orb (plain or 3D?), so the color will not even be near to 
our official blue tone.


On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so 
costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean 
about 30 Cent per disc).


I don't know which way to prefer - but I'd rather stay with less discs 
in our official colors than with more discs that doesn't help our 
branding efforts (even if the fact of using other background colors than 
the official ones is not yet explicitly mentioned in the branding 
guidelines draft).




If anyone can get a better offer that can still be delivered on time,
that would be great.


It's in fact a matter of pricing and time, but perhaps there is a shop 
in Hungary able to do such disks? Is anyone of the OOoCon team around here?


Best regards
Bernhard

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Lars Nooden]

On 07/26/2010 05:34 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
> I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
> list. You can find the information here:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc

The link under the title Quotation, does not go to any pricing
information or any details about the specifications for the discs.

/Lars

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Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

[Lars Nooden]

On 07/26/2010 05:34 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I requested a quotation for the flying discs we talked about in the
> list. You can find the information here:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc
> 
> 500 discs delivered to Budapest cost 428,40 EUR

> As there isn't a lot of time (to have the discs delivered to Budapest on
> the 30th of August we'd have to order them the 27th of July) it would be
> good to make a decision as soon as possible.
> 
> If anyone can get a better offer that can still be delivered on time,
> that would be great.

If we use the new logo, how should the text "www.openoffice.org" be
overlayed?   Curved along the bottom, top or straight across?

/Lars

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