Re: Discussion: Compound Screen Widget Files (was: Discussion: Support Screen Widget Namespaces)

2011-01-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

In case anyone is wondering what the advantage is to doing things this way, I 
can use the Party Manager as an example.

The Party Manager application is huge. For the most part, having all screens in one file, all forms in one file, all menus in one 
file, etc makes sense. But in an application that size, those files have become very big and monolithic. That slows down 
development because a lot of time is spent going from file to file and searching through the file for the bit of information you 
need.


There are portions of the Party Manager application that are somewhat atomic and lend themselves well to being separated out. 
Let's use the Party Roles screen as an example.


The Party Roles screen contains 1 screen widget (not including the decorators), and 4 form widgets. The screen widget is defined 
in PartyScreens.xml - which contains about 35 screen widgets. The form widgets are defined in PartyForms.xml - which contains 
around 50 form widgets. We *could* put those 4 form widgets in their own form widget file, but then we would still have an 
additional file to work with.


The Party Roles screen requires 4 requests and 1 view map. Those requests and view map are in the controller.xml file - which is 
1338 lines long. Again, we *could* put those requests and view in a separate file, but then we would still have an additional file 
to work with.


Here is how the Party Roles screen artifacts could be organized in the proposed compound widget file: We could create a file 
called PartyRole.xml, and then put the 1 screen widget, 4 form widgets, 4 requests, and 1 view map in that file. All Party Role 
UI-related artifacts are now in one place where they are easy to find.


The same process could be repeated for Party Relationships.

-Adrian


This makes sense indeed, I can't see any drawbacks but if you need to jump from another group of screens in Party for instance. I 
think they are pros and cons but it's worth it.


Jacques



--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:

Okay, I got the XML parsing errors
fixed. It required new schemas.

If we want to add this feature to the project, we will need
two versions of some schemas (all screen widget xsd files,
simple-methods.xsd and site-conf.xsd). The new versions
could include a version number in the file name, like
widget-screen-v2.xsd as an example.

Adding the version number to the xsd file name also solves
another problem - currently all versions of OFBiz are
referencing a single xsd file version. In the future, as xsd
files are changed, they could be given a new version number
and the dependent XML files would be updated to reference
them. Or we could have the version number in the url and put
the new schemas in the new url.

David suggested using schema includes to share schemas
(like for widget actions). This change could be a first step
in that direction - because the new schemas will have their
own namespace.

I have updated the Jira issue with a new patch so everyone
can take a look:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4090

Comments and suggestions are welcome!

-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 --- On Sat, 1/1/11, David E Jones
 d...@me.com
 wrote:
  In Moqui I went a different direction
  and there is no controller.xml file, everything
there
 is in
  the screen definition.

 We could do that in OFBiz too. Since the
controller.xml
 file supports the include element, it would be
a
 simple matter to add a controller element to
the
 compound screen widget file, and then use the
controller's
 include element to include the compound
screen
 widget file.

 The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.
















Re: Localization experiences to share

2011-01-03 Thread Sascha Rodekamp
Hi Luís,
did you look into the uiLabels already? These files contains all language
translations. So OFbiz is localized to a lot of languages and it can be
extended easily.

Cheers
Sascha

2011/1/3 Luís Maranesi luis.maran...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I have sent the following to the user list last week and it seems that no
 one have any information to share. If someone here at the dev list have
 some
 information I'd be grateful for any help.

 Thanks in advance,
 Luís

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Luís Maranesi luis.maran...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:51 AM
 Subject: Localization experiences to share
 To: u...@ofbiz.apache.org


 Hello,

 I'm writing because I've been trying to localize OFBiz to be used in Brazil
 or at least to make that easier to happen. I'd like to ask if someone here
 have any experience to share about OFBiz localization in other languages
 and
 countries.

 If there is someone that can help me, I'd like to know what were the main
 aspects taken into account in the localization process. Comments about
 things concerning local laws and accounting laws and regulation would be
 appreciated too.

 In fact I need these information to add some comments in a report I'm about
 to present.

 Thanks in advance,
 Luís Maranesi




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Re: Discussion: Compound Screen Widget Files (was: Discussion: Support Screen Widget Namespaces)

2011-01-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

In case anyone is wondering what the advantage is to doing things this way, I 
can use the Party Manager as an example.

The Party Manager application is huge. For the most part, having all screens in one file, all forms in one file, all menus in one 
file, etc makes sense. But in an application that size, those files have become very big and monolithic. That slows down 
development because a lot of time is spent going from file to file and searching through the file for the bit of information you 
need.


There are portions of the Party Manager application that are somewhat atomic and lend themselves well to being separated out. 
Let's use the Party Roles screen as an example.


The Party Roles screen contains 1 screen widget (not including the decorators), and 4 form widgets. The screen widget is defined 
in PartyScreens.xml - which contains about 35 screen widgets. The form widgets are defined in PartyForms.xml - which contains 
around 50 form widgets. We *could* put those 4 form widgets in their own form widget file, but then we would still have an 
additional file to work with.


The Party Roles screen requires 4 requests and 1 view map. Those requests and view map are in the controller.xml file - which is 
1338 lines long. Again, we *could* put those requests and view in a separate file, but then we would still have an additional 
file to work with.


Here is how the Party Roles screen artifacts could be organized in the proposed compound widget file: We could create a file 
called PartyRole.xml, and then put the 1 screen widget, 4 form widgets, 4 requests, and 1 view map in that file. All Party Role 
UI-related artifacts are now in one place where they are easy to find.


The same process could be repeated for Party Relationships.

-Adrian


This makes sense indeed, I can't see any drawbacks but if you need to jump from another group of screens in Party for instance. I 
think they are pros and cons but it's worth it.


Ha also I like to search in *een* files and *form* files to narrow the targets 
(specially in custom projects, but not only)

Jacques


Jacques



--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:

Okay, I got the XML parsing errors
fixed. It required new schemas.

If we want to add this feature to the project, we will need
two versions of some schemas (all screen widget xsd files,
simple-methods.xsd and site-conf.xsd). The new versions
could include a version number in the file name, like
widget-screen-v2.xsd as an example.

Adding the version number to the xsd file name also solves
another problem - currently all versions of OFBiz are
referencing a single xsd file version. In the future, as xsd
files are changed, they could be given a new version number
and the dependent XML files would be updated to reference
them. Or we could have the version number in the url and put
the new schemas in the new url.

David suggested using schema includes to share schemas
(like for widget actions). This change could be a first step
in that direction - because the new schemas will have their
own namespace.

I have updated the Jira issue with a new patch so everyone
can take a look:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4090

Comments and suggestions are welcome!

-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 --- On Sat, 1/1/11, David E Jones
 d...@me.com
 wrote:
  In Moqui I went a different direction
  and there is no controller.xml file, everything
there
 is in
  the screen definition.

 We could do that in OFBiz too. Since the
controller.xml
 file supports the include element, it would be
a
 simple matter to add a controller element to
the
 compound screen widget file, and then use the
controller's
 include element to include the compound
screen
 widget file.

 The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.



















Re: Discussion: Support Screen Widget Namespaces

2011-01-03 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES

Le 02/01/2011 10:05, Scott Gray a écrit :

I've been playing around with Jelly (http://commons.apache.org/jelly/) lately 
and it might be worth taking a look at while you're on this train of thought.

Regards
Scott






Jelly is also used in Hudson : 
http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Extend+Hudson


There is a subsection called Writing Jelly


Cheers,

--
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www.nereide.biz


Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo and the BizznessTime 
theme. I would also like to get rid of the chiclet main navigation style, and 
maybe have that menu in a collapsible left column.

-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
 To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
 I really would appreciate to keep the
 Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
 few visual improvements.
 Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to my mind
 . :-)
 
 Cheers
 
 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
  IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES
 to keep it, of course.
  I have no ideas though :/
 
  Jacques
 
  From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 
   The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.
 
  The current version of the theme is based on the
 original look and feel of
  OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in
 2004. Around the Spring of
  2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the
 original style a little more
  interesting.
 
  After that, the visual theme was converted to a
 floating flexible layout
  (to fit any size screen), it was made
 sight-impaired accessible (font size
  can be changed), and it added support for
 bi-directional layout (for rtl
  languages). Those design decisions were made by
 the OFBiz community and, in
  my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme
 the fallback theme when all
  else fails. It just works.
 
  Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would
 like to update it to make
  it more modern, but maintain its advantages over
 the other themes. I'm
  thinking it only needs css and gif file updates.
 The current templates and
  javascripts would be maintained.
 
  If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help
 out. I would also
  appreciate any suggestions or comments.
 
  Let me know what you think.
 
  -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sascha Rodekamp
     Lynx-Consulting GmbH
     Johanniskirchplatz 6
     D-33615 Bielefeld
     http://www.lynx.de
 





Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
Looking at The Data Model Resource Book and the way OFBiz models Party 
Classification, it appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.

According to the book, the Party Classification entity ties a Party to a Party 
Type with a from and thru date.

In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a Party to a Party 
Classification Group with a from and thru date. The Party Type is tied directly 
to Party with no from and thru date.

Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?

-Adrian





  


[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-4091) Internazionalization of ServiceUtil.returnSuccess, ServiceUtil.returnFailure, ServiceUtil.returnError

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)
Internazionalization of ServiceUtil.returnSuccess, ServiceUtil.returnFailure, 
ServiceUtil.returnError
-

 Key: OFBIZ-4091
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4091
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: ALL COMPONENTS
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Marco Risaliti
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
Priority: Minor
 Fix For: SVN trunk


Actually there are more than 800 reference to hard-coded labels into call to 
ServiceUtil.returnSuccess, ServiceUtil.returnFailure, ServiceUtil.returnError 
and those messages cannot be translate.
I will start to remove it and this issue is for track the status of the 
conversion.

Thanks
Marco

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[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-3947) multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3947?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Marco Risaliti reassigned OFBIZ-3947:
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Assignee: Marco Risaliti

 multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page
 

 Key: OFBIZ-3947
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3947
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release Branch 09.04
 Environment: https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org
Reporter: chris snow
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
 Attachments: ecommerce.png


 The multiflex theme - show Utente button on checkout options page next to 
 Quick Add button.
 Steps to reproduce:
 1) switch to multiflex theme
 2) add product to cart
 3) click checkout
 4) login as admin
 See attached screenshot...

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[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-3942) my time screen in project mgr shows wrong labels with entry field for hours

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)

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 ]

Marco Risaliti reassigned OFBIZ-3942:
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Assignee: Marco Risaliti

 my time screen in project mgr shows wrong labels with entry field for hours
 ---

 Key: OFBIZ-3942
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3942
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/projectmgr
Affects Versions: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
Reporter: Pierre Smits
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
 Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk

 Attachments: TimeSheetForms-2010-09-17.patch


 The my time entry screen for hours in Project Mgr shows labels (in English) 
 for the hour columns in following order: sun, mon,tue,wen,thu,fri,sat.
 However when entering hours on in e.g the mon(day) column the actual date 
 registered for the hours is for tuesday. 
 Seems like the week starts on monday, not on sunday

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[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-3943) MULTIFLEX ecommerce Advanced Search layout issues

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)

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Marco Risaliti reassigned OFBIZ-3943:
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Assignee: Marco Risaliti

 MULTIFLEX ecommerce Advanced Search layout issues
 -

 Key: OFBIZ-3943
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3943
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release 09.04
 Environment: Firefox 3.6.9 - Ubuntu Linux 10.04 x86
Reporter: chris snow
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: Screenshot-AdvancedSearch.png


 See attached screenshot

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux
By chiclet main navigation style, you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as it is (because there are advantages 
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...


Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of the chiclet 
main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
I really would appreciate to keep the
Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
few visual improvements.
Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to my mind
. :-)

Cheers

2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

 IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES
to keep it, of course.
 I have no ideas though :/

 Jacques

 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

 The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.

 The current version of the theme is based on the
original look and feel of
 OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in
2004. Around the Spring of
 2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the
original style a little more
 interesting.

 After that, the visual theme was converted to a
floating flexible layout
 (to fit any size screen), it was made
sight-impaired accessible (font size
 can be changed), and it added support for
bi-directional layout (for rtl
 languages). Those design decisions were made by
the OFBiz community and, in
 my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme
the fallback theme when all
 else fails. It just works.

 Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would
like to update it to make
 it more modern, but maintain its advantages over
the other themes. I'm
 thinking it only needs css and gif file updates.
The current templates and
 javascripts would be maintained.

 If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help
out. I would also
 appreciate any suggestions or comments.

 Let me know what you think.

 -Adrian






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Lynx-Consulting GmbH
Johanniskirchplatz 6
D-33615 Bielefeld
http://www.lynx.de











Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces of Chiclets 
chewing gum. They look terrible when they are displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:
 By chiclet main navigation style,
 you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
 it is (because there are advantages 
 to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo
 and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
 the chiclet 
 main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a
 collapsible left column.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
  To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
  Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
  I really would appreciate to keep the
  Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
  few visual improvements.
  Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to
 my mind
  . :-)
 
  Cheers
 
  2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
   IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a
 big YES
  to keep it, of course.
   I have no ideas though :/
  
   Jacques
  
   From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
  
   The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.
  
   The current version of the theme is based
 on the
  original look and feel of
   OFBiz when I first joined the community -
 back in
  2004. Around the Spring of
   2007 I added some gradient gifs to make
 the
  original style a little more
   interesting.
  
   After that, the visual theme was
 converted to a
  floating flexible layout
   (to fit any size screen), it was made
  sight-impaired accessible (font size
   can be changed), and it added support
 for
  bi-directional layout (for rtl
   languages). Those design decisions were
 made by
  the OFBiz community and, in
   my opinion, continue to make the Flat
 Grey theme
  the fallback theme when all
   else fails. It just works.
  
   Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I
 would
  like to update it to make
   it more modern, but maintain its
 advantages over
  the other themes. I'm
   thinking it only needs css and gif file
 updates.
  The current templates and
   javascripts would be maintained.
  
   If anyone is interested, they are welcome
 to help
  out. I would also
   appreciate any suggestions or comments.
  
   Let me know what you think.
  
   -Adrian
  
  
  
  
 
 
  -- 
  Sascha Rodekamp
  Lynx-Consulting GmbH
  Johanniskirchplatz 6
  D-33615 Bielefeld
  http://www.lynx.de
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 


  


Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Ryan Foster
IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, 
the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very 
dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another improved version, let's just 
improve the version we have now.  I think that is more efficient and more 
beneficial in the long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like navigation 
without actually having the tabs look like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do 
look terrible displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate 
with you on this.  I think I have some ideas that could help.  Email me 
directly if you want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list 
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as an 
opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme I have been working on 
already for some time now that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for 
scalability and customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey 
theme altogether.  The new theme scales down very well to 800x600 and has 
minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for more 
details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces of 
 Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are displayed in two rows.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:
 By chiclet main navigation style,
 you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
 it is (because there are advantages 
 to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo
 and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
 the chiclet 
 main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a
 collapsible left column.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
 To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
 I really would appreciate to keep the
 Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
 few visual improvements.
 Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to
 my mind
 . :-)
 
 Cheers
 
 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
 IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a
 big YES
 to keep it, of course.
 I have no ideas though :/
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 
 The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.
 
 The current version of the theme is based
 on the
 original look and feel of
 OFBiz when I first joined the community -
 back in
 2004. Around the Spring of
 2007 I added some gradient gifs to make
 the
 original style a little more
 interesting.
 
 After that, the visual theme was
 converted to a
 floating flexible layout
 (to fit any size screen), it was made
 sight-impaired accessible (font size
 can be changed), and it added support
 for
 bi-directional layout (for rtl
 languages). Those design decisions were
 made by
 the OFBiz community and, in
 my opinion, continue to make the Flat
 Grey theme
 the fallback theme when all
 else fails. It just works.
 
 Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I
 would
 like to update it to make
 it more modern, but maintain its
 advantages over
 the other themes. I'm
 thinking it only needs css and gif file
 updates.
 The current templates and
 javascripts would be maintained.
 
 If anyone is interested, they are welcome
 to help
 out. I would also
 appreciate any suggestions or comments.
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
 -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sascha Rodekamp
 Lynx-Consulting GmbH
 Johanniskirchplatz 6
 D-33615 Bielefeld
 http://www.lynx.de
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread BJ Freeman

I would like to throw out the idea we keep flat grey as a  test layout.
this is the one I use for ui testing with Selenium.

so if you improve it save the current one as Selenium theme.



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Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/3/2011 10:39 AM:


IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, 
the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very dated.  It 
needs some love.  Let's not add another improved version, let's just improve the version 
we have now.  I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like navigation 
without actually having the tabs look like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do 
look terrible displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate 
with you on this.  I think I have some ideas that could help.  Email me 
directly if you want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list 
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as an 
opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme I have been working on 
already for some time now that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for 
scalability and customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey 
theme altogether.  The new theme scales down very well to 800x600 and has 
minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for more 
details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces of Chiclets 
chewing gum. They look terrible when they are displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com  wrote:

By chiclet main navigation style,
you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
it is (because there are advantages
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...

Jacques

From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com

I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo

and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
the chiclet

main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a

collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekampsascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com

wrote:



From: Sascha Rodekampsascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,

Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
I really would appreciate to keep the
Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
few visual improvements.
Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to

my mind

. :-)

Cheers

2010/12/29 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a

big YES

to keep it, of course.

I have no ideas though :/

Jacques

From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com

The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.


The current version of the theme is based

on the

original look and feel of

OFBiz when I first joined the community -

back in

2004. Around the Spring of

2007 I added some gradient gifs to make

the

original style a little more

interesting.

After that, the visual theme was

converted to a

floating flexible layout

(to fit any size screen), it was made

sight-impaired accessible (font size

can be changed), and it added support

for

bi-directional layout (for rtl

languages). Those design decisions were

made by

the OFBiz community and, in

my opinion, continue to make the Flat

Grey theme

the fallback theme when all

else fails. It just works.

Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I

would

like to update it to make

it more modern, but maintain its

advantages over

the other themes. I'm

thinking it only needs css and gif file

updates.

The current templates and

javascripts would be maintained.

If anyone is interested, they are welcome

to help

out. I would also

appreciate any suggestions or comments.

Let me know what you think.

-Adrian








--
Sascha Rodekamp
Lynx-Consulting GmbH
Johanniskirchplatz 6
D-33615 Bielefeld
http://www.lynx.de



















Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
That's great news Ryan - I can't wait to see the new theme!

It's good to know you're willing to help with Flat Grey - I'm no graphics 
artist. As far as updating Flay Grey - I can create a Jira issue and you can 
supply patches if you like. I really don't have much to say in addition to what 
I've said on the mailing list.

Maybe the location of the main navigation tab bar can be controlled by a user 
setting - top, left, or right.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ryan Foster cont...@ryanlfoster.com wrote:
 IMO I see no reason to have a Flat
 Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat Grey
 theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very
 dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another
 improved version, let's just improve the version we have
 now.  I think that is more efficient and more
 beneficial in the long run.
 
 As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal,
 tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs look
 like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
 displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
 happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I have
 some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you
 want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
 Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can
 use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a
 new theme I have been working on already for some time now
 that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for
 scalability and customization, and that will eventually
 replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new theme
 scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal styling for
 maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for
 more details in the next few days...
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
  Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs
 look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible
 when they are displayed in two rows.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 wrote:
  By chiclet main navigation style,
  you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep
 Flat Grey as
  it is (because there are advantages 
  to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
  
  Jacques
  
  From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
  I was thinking we could use colors from the
 Apache logo
  and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to
 get rid of
  the chiclet 
  main navigation style, and maybe have that
 menu in a
  collapsible left column.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp 
  sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
  
  From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual
 Theme
  To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
  Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
  Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
  I really would appreciate to keep the
  Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
  few visual improvements.
  Let me think about this, maybe somethink
 comes to
  my mind
  . :-)
  
  Cheers
  
  2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
  
  IIRW, it's the only really RTL
 capable. So a
  big YES
  to keep it, of course.
  I have no ideas though :/
  
  Jacques
  
  From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
  
  The Flat Grey visual theme is getting
 old.
  
  The current version of the theme
 is based
  on the
  original look and feel of
  OFBiz when I first joined the
 community -
  back in
  2004. Around the Spring of
  2007 I added some gradient gifs to
 make
  the
  original style a little more
  interesting.
  
  After that, the visual theme was
  converted to a
  floating flexible layout
  (to fit any size screen), it was
 made
  sight-impaired accessible (font size
  can be changed), and it added
 support
  for
  bi-directional layout (for rtl
  languages). Those design decisions
 were
  made by
  the OFBiz community and, in
  my opinion, continue to make the
 Flat
  Grey theme
  the fallback theme when all
  else fails. It just works.
  
  Despite its advantages, it looks
 dated. I
  would
  like to update it to make
  it more modern, but maintain its
  advantages over
  the other themes. I'm
  thinking it only needs css and gif
 file
  updates.
  The current templates and
  javascripts would be maintained.
  
  If anyone is interested, they are
 welcome
  to help
  out. I would also
  appreciate any suggestions or
 comments.
  
  Let me know what you think.
  
  -Adrian
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -- 
  Sascha Rodekamp
  Lynx-Consulting GmbH
  Johanniskirchplatz 6
  D-33615 Bielefeld
  http://www.lynx.de
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 





Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
I don't think the markup will change that much - if at all. My hope is we will 
only need to change the style sheets and gif files.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net wrote:
 I would like to throw out the idea we
 keep flat grey as a  test layout.
 this is the one I use for ui testing with Selenium.
 
 so if you improve it save the current one as Selenium
 theme.
 
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/3/2011 10:39 AM:
 
  IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution
 theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had
 a visual update in years and it looks very dated.  It
 needs some love.  Let's not add another improved
 version, let's just improve the version we have now.  I
 think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the long
 run.
 
  As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal,
 tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs look
 like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
 displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
 happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I have
 some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you
 want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
  Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I
 can use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser
 about a new theme I have been working on already for some
 time now that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme
 for scalability and customization, and that will eventually
 replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new theme
 scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal styling for
 maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for
 more details in the next few days...
 
  Ryan L. Foster
  801.671.0769
  cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
  On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
  Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs
 look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible
 when they are displayed in two rows.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com 
 wrote:
  By chiclet main navigation style,
  you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep
 Flat Grey as
  it is (because there are advantages
  to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey
 evolution...
 
  Jacques
 
  From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
  I was thinking we could use colors from
 the Apache logo
  and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like
 to get rid of
  the chiclet
  main navigation style, and maybe have that
 menu in a
  collapsible left column.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha 
  Rodekampsascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
  From: Sascha Rodekampsascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey
 Visual Theme
  To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
  Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
  Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27
 AM
  I really would appreciate to keep the
  Flat Gray. But you're right it needs
 a
  few visual improvements.
  Let me think about this, maybe
 somethink comes to
  my mind
  . :-)
 
  Cheers
 
  2010/12/29 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
  IIRW, it's the only really RTL
 capable. So a
  big YES
  to keep it, of course.
  I have no ideas though :/
 
  Jacques
 
  From: Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
 
  The Flat Grey visual theme is
 getting old.
 
  The current version of the
 theme is based
  on the
  original look and feel of
  OFBiz when I first joined the
 community -
  back in
  2004. Around the Spring of
  2007 I added some gradient
 gifs to make
  the
  original style a little more
  interesting.
 
  After that, the visual theme
 was
  converted to a
  floating flexible layout
  (to fit any size screen), it
 was made
  sight-impaired accessible (font size
  can be changed), and it added
 support
  for
  bi-directional layout (for rtl
  languages). Those design
 decisions were
  made by
  the OFBiz community and, in
  my opinion, continue to make
 the Flat
  Grey theme
  the fallback theme when all
  else fails. It just works.
 
  Despite its advantages, it
 looks dated. I
  would
  like to update it to make
  it more modern, but maintain
 its
  advantages over
  the other themes. I'm
  thinking it only needs css and
 gif file
  updates.
  The current templates and
  javascripts would be
 maintained.
 
  If anyone is interested, they
 are welcome
  to help
  out. I would also
  appreciate any suggestions or
 comments.
 
  Let me know what you think.
 
  -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sascha Rodekamp
  Lynx-Consulting GmbH
  Johanniskirchplatz 6
  D-33615 Bielefeld
  http://www.lynx.de
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-4092) Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)

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Adrian Crum reassigned OFBIZ-4092:
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 Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme
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 Key: OFBIZ-4092
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Adrian Crum
Assignee: Adrian Crum
Priority: Minor

 Update the Flat Grey visual theme. Design objectives:
 1. Floating, flexible layout - screen can be resized.
 2. Sight impaired accessible - users can change font size in their browser.
 3. Supports RTL layout.

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[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-4092) Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)
Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme
-

 Key: OFBIZ-4092
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Adrian Crum
Priority: Minor


Update the Flat Grey visual theme. Design objectives:

1. Floating, flexible layout - screen can be resized.
2. Sight impaired accessible - users can change font size in their browser.
3. Supports RTL layout.


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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
Here we go:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:
 That's great news Ryan - I can't wait
 to see the new theme!
 
 It's good to know you're willing to help with Flat Grey -
 I'm no graphics artist. As far as updating Flay Grey - I can
 create a Jira issue and you can supply patches if you like.
 I really don't have much to say in addition to what I've
 said on the mailing list.
 
 Maybe the location of the main navigation tab bar can be
 controlled by a user setting - top, left, or right.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ryan Foster cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 wrote:
  IMO I see no reason to have a Flat
  Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat
 Grey
  theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks
 very
  dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another
  improved version, let's just improve the version we
 have
  now.  I think that is more efficient and more
  beneficial in the long run.
  
  As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a
 horizontal,
  tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs
 look
  like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
  displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
  happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I
 have
  some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if
 you
  want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing
 list
  discussion.
  
  Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I
 can
  use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser
 about a
  new theme I have been working on already for some time
 now
  that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for
  scalability and customization, and that will
 eventually
  replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new
 theme
  scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal
 styling for
  maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned
 for
  more details in the next few days...
  
  Ryan L. Foster
  801.671.0769
  cont...@ryanlfoster.com
  
  On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
  
   Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The
 tabs
  look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look
 terrible
  when they are displayed in two rows.
   
   -Adrian
   
   --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
  wrote:
   By chiclet main navigation style,
   you mean the tabs? Then I think we should
 keep
  Flat Grey as
   it is (because there are advantages 
   to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey
 evolution...
   
   Jacques
   
   From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
   I was thinking we could use colors from
 the
  Apache logo
   and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like
 to
  get rid of
   the chiclet 
   main navigation style, and maybe have
 that
  menu in a
   collapsible left column.
   
   -Adrian
   
   --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp
 sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
   wrote:
   
   From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
   Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey
 Visual
  Theme
   To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
   Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
   Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27
 AM
   I really would appreciate to keep
 the
   Flat Gray. But you're right it needs
 a
   few visual improvements.
   Let me think about this, maybe
 somethink
  comes to
   my mind
   . :-)
   
   Cheers
   
   2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
   
   IIRW, it's the only really RTL
  capable. So a
   big YES
   to keep it, of course.
   I have no ideas though :/
   
   Jacques
   
   From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
   
   The Flat Grey visual theme is
 getting
  old.
   
   The current version of the
 theme
  is based
   on the
   original look and feel of
   OFBiz when I first joined
 the
  community -
   back in
   2004. Around the Spring of
   2007 I added some gradient
 gifs to
  make
   the
   original style a little more
   interesting.
   
   After that, the visual theme
 was
   converted to a
   floating flexible layout
   (to fit any size screen), it
 was
  made
   sight-impaired accessible (font size
   can be changed), and it
 added
  support
   for
   bi-directional layout (for rtl
   languages). Those design
 decisions
  were
   made by
   the OFBiz community and, in
   my opinion, continue to make
 the
  Flat
   Grey theme
   the fallback theme when all
   else fails. It just works.
   
   Despite its advantages, it
 looks
  dated. I
   would
   like to update it to make
   it more modern, but maintain
 its
   advantages over
   the other themes. I'm
   thinking it only needs css
 and gif
  file
   updates.
   The current templates and
   javascripts would be
 maintained.
   
   If anyone is interested, they
 are
  welcome
   to help
   out. I would also
   appreciate any suggestions
 or
  comments.
   
   Let me know what you think.
   
   -Adrian
   
   
   
   
   
   
   -- 
   Sascha Rodekamp
   Lynx-Consulting GmbH
   Johanniskirchplatz 6
   D-33615 Bielefeld
   

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4092) Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)

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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-4092:


Some suggestions from the dev mailing list (one of these was made a while back):

1. Title bars less dark - so you don't have the dark horizontal bands in 
screens with screenlets.
2. Keep the main navigation tab bar on top.
3. Make the main navigation a collapsible column.
4. Keep the markup the same so Selenium tests will still pass.

The community is welcome to comment and offer more suggestions.


 Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme
 -

 Key: OFBIZ-4092
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Adrian Crum
Assignee: Adrian Crum
Priority: Minor

 Update the Flat Grey visual theme. Design objectives:
 1. Floating, flexible layout - screen can be resized.
 2. Sight impaired accessible - users can change font size in their browser.
 3. Supports RTL layout.

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Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
Looking into this more, The Data Model Resource Book mentions classification 
groups - but I believe the author meant that Party Types could be grouped 
together in classification groups. In other words, the classification groups 
are defined by the data contained in the Party Type table - not in a separate 
Party Classification Group table. There is nothing stopping us from having a 
Party Classification Group table, but it should group Party Types, not 
Classification Types.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looking at The Data Model Resource
 Book and the way OFBiz models Party Classification, it
 appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.
 
 According to the book, the Party Classification entity ties
 a Party to a Party Type with a from and thru date.
 
 In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a Party to a
 Party Classification Group with a from and thru date. The
 Party Type is tied directly to Party with no from and thru
 date.
 
 Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?
 
 -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
       
 





Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread BJ Freeman
so the Party Classification Group table would have a one to one with 
Classification Types

or vica versa.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41 PM:

Looking into this more, The Data Model Resource Book mentions classification groups - but I believe 
the author meant that Party Types could be grouped together in classification groups. In other 
words, the classification groups are defined by the data contained in the Party Type table - not in 
a separate Party Classification Group table. There is nothing stopping us from having a 
Party Classification Group table, but it should group Party Types, not Classification 
Types.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Looking at The Data Model Resource
Book and the way OFBiz models Party Classification, it
appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.

According to the book, the Party Classification entity ties
a Party to a Party Type with a from and thru date.

In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a Party to a
Party Classification Group with a from and thru date. The
Party Type is tied directly to Party with no from and thru
date.

Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?

-Adrian
















Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread BJ Freeman
on page 30 the organization classification would be group with subtypes 
classifications minority, industry, size.

now industry and zize would reqire a value.
the sub types could be enumerations entity.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


BJ Freeman sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:36 PM:

so the Party Classification Group table would have a one to one with
Classification Types
or vica versa.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41 PM:

Looking into this more, The Data Model Resource Book mentions
classification groups - but I believe the author meant that Party
Types could be grouped together in classification groups. In other
words, the classification groups are defined by the data contained in
the Party Type table - not in a separate Party Classification Group
table. There is nothing stopping us from having a Party Classification
Group table, but it should group Party Types, not Classification Types.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:

Looking at The Data Model Resource
Book and the way OFBiz models Party Classification, it
appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.

According to the book, the Party Classification entity ties
a Party to a Party Type with a from and thru date.

In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a Party to a
Party Classification Group with a from and thru date. The
Party Type is tied directly to Party with no from and thru
date.

Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?

-Adrian



















Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
PartyClassificationGroup should have a one-to-one relationship with an entity 
called PartyClassificationGroupType.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net wrote:
 so the Party Classification Group
 table would have a one to one with 
 Classification Types
 or vica versa.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41 PM:
  Looking into this more, The Data Model Resource Book
 mentions classification groups - but I believe the author
 meant that Party Types could be grouped together in
 classification groups. In other words, the classification
 groups are defined by the data contained in the Party Type
 table - not in a separate Party Classification Group
 table. There is nothing stopping us from having a Party
 Classification Group table, but it should group Party Types,
 not Classification Types.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
  Looking at The Data Model Resource
  Book and the way OFBiz models Party
 Classification, it
  appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.
 
  According to the book, the Party Classification
 entity ties
  a Party to a Party Type with a from and thru
 date.
 
  In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a
 Party to a
  Party Classification Group with a from and thru
 date. The
  Party Type is tied directly to Party with no from
 and thru
  date.
 
  Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?
 
  -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3947) multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3947?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Marco Risaliti updated OFBIZ-3947:
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Attachment: MultiflexUser.png

This issue is no more present into branch release 4 as you can see from this 
attachment.
I will close this issue.

 multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page
 

 Key: OFBIZ-3947
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3947
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release Branch 09.04
 Environment: https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org
Reporter: chris snow
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
 Fix For: Release Branch 09.04

 Attachments: ecommerce.png, MultiflexUser.png


 The multiflex theme - show Utente button on checkout options page next to 
 Quick Add button.
 Steps to reproduce:
 1) switch to multiflex theme
 2) add product to cart
 3) click checkout
 4) login as admin
 See attached screenshot...

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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3947) multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page

2011-01-03 Thread Marco Risaliti (JIRA)

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Marco Risaliti closed OFBIZ-3947.
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   Resolution: Cannot Reproduce
Fix Version/s: Release Branch 09.04

Already fixed into Release Branch 09.04.

 multiflex theme - shows Utente button on checkout options page
 

 Key: OFBIZ-3947
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3947
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release Branch 09.04
 Environment: https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org
Reporter: chris snow
Assignee: Marco Risaliti
 Fix For: Release Branch 09.04

 Attachments: ecommerce.png, MultiflexUser.png


 The multiflex theme - show Utente button on checkout options page next to 
 Quick Add button.
 Steps to reproduce:
 1) switch to multiflex theme
 2) add product to cart
 3) click checkout
 4) login as admin
 See attached screenshot...

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Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread BJ Freeman
how about a pattern of parent child for PartyClassification of supertype 
 and the sub types then use a table for the attributess of the subtype.

this would allow walking the parnent child relationships.
PartyClassification 
---organizationClassificationminorityClassification

  industryclassification

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:46 PM:

PartyClassificationGroup should have a one-to-one relationship with an entity 
called PartyClassificationGroupType.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net  wrote:

so the Party Classification Group
table would have a one to one with
Classification Types
or vica versa.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41 PM:

Looking into this more, The Data Model Resource Book

mentions classification groups - but I believe the author
meant that Party Types could be grouped together in
classification groups. In other words, the classification
groups are defined by the data contained in the Party Type
table - not in a separate Party Classification Group
table. There is nothing stopping us from having a Party
Classification Group table, but it should group Party Types,
not Classification Types.


-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com

wrote:

Looking at The Data Model Resource
Book and the way OFBiz models Party

Classification, it

appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.

According to the book, the Party Classification

entity ties

a Party to a Party Type with a from and thru

date.


In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity ties a

Party to a

Party Classification Group with a from and thru

date. The

Party Type is tied directly to Party with no from

and thru

date.

Was that intentional? Why was it done that way?

-Adrian
























Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
That's not what the book shows. There is a simple relationship:

Party - PartyClassification - PartyType

If you want to group classifications, give them parent/child relationships, etc 
then you do it with PartyType, not PartyClassification. Look at table 2.3 on 
page 32.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net wrote:
 how about a pattern of parent child
 for PartyClassification of supertype 
   and the sub types then use a table for the
 attributess of the subtype.
 this would allow walking the parnent child relationships.
 PartyClassification 
 ---organizationClassificationminorityClassification
                
            
    industryclassification
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:46 PM:
  PartyClassificationGroup should have a one-to-one
 relationship with an entity called
 PartyClassificationGroupType.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net 
 wrote:
  so the Party Classification Group
  table would have a one to one with
  Classification Types
  or vica versa.
 
 
  =
  BJ Freeman
  Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
  http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
  Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
  Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
  Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
  Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41
 PM:
  Looking into this more, The Data Model
 Resource Book
  mentions classification groups - but I believe the
 author
  meant that Party Types could be grouped together
 in
  classification groups. In other words, the
 classification
  groups are defined by the data contained in the
 Party Type
  table - not in a separate Party Classification
 Group
  table. There is nothing stopping us from having a
 Party
  Classification Group table, but it should group
 Party Types,
  not Classification Types.
 
  -Adrian
 
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  Looking at The Data Model Resource
  Book and the way OFBiz models Party
  Classification, it
  appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.
 
  According to the book, the Party
 Classification
  entity ties
  a Party to a Party Type with a from and
 thru
  date.
 
  In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity
 ties a
  Party to a
  Party Classification Group with a from and
 thru
  date. The
  Party Type is tied directly to Party with
 no from
  and thru
  date.
 
  Was that intentional? Why was it done that
 way?
 
  -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-03 Thread Ryan Foster
That sounds great.  Create the issue and send me a link to it and I'll get to 
work.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 That's great news Ryan - I can't wait to see the new theme!
 
 It's good to know you're willing to help with Flat Grey - I'm no graphics 
 artist. As far as updating Flay Grey - I can create a Jira issue and you can 
 supply patches if you like. I really don't have much to say in addition to 
 what I've said on the mailing list.
 
 Maybe the location of the main navigation tab bar can be controlled by a user 
 setting - top, left, or right.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ryan Foster cont...@ryanlfoster.com wrote:
 IMO I see no reason to have a Flat
 Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat Grey
 theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very
 dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another
 improved version, let's just improve the version we have
 now.  I think that is more efficient and more
 beneficial in the long run.
 
 As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal,
 tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs look
 like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
 displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
 happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I have
 some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you
 want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
 Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can
 use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a
 new theme I have been working on already for some time now
 that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for
 scalability and customization, and that will eventually
 replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new theme
 scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal styling for
 maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for
 more details in the next few days...
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs
 look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible
 when they are displayed in two rows.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 wrote:
 By chiclet main navigation style,
 you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep
 Flat Grey as
 it is (because there are advantages 
 to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 I was thinking we could use colors from the
 Apache logo
 and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to
 get rid of
 the chiclet 
 main navigation style, and maybe have that
 menu in a
 collapsible left column.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp 
 sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual
 Theme
 To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
 I really would appreciate to keep the
 Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
 few visual improvements.
 Let me think about this, maybe somethink
 comes to
 my mind
 . :-)
 
 Cheers
 
 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
 IIRW, it's the only really RTL
 capable. So a
 big YES
 to keep it, of course.
 I have no ideas though :/
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 
 The Flat Grey visual theme is getting
 old.
 
 The current version of the theme
 is based
 on the
 original look and feel of
 OFBiz when I first joined the
 community -
 back in
 2004. Around the Spring of
 2007 I added some gradient gifs to
 make
 the
 original style a little more
 interesting.
 
 After that, the visual theme was
 converted to a
 floating flexible layout
 (to fit any size screen), it was
 made
 sight-impaired accessible (font size
 can be changed), and it added
 support
 for
 bi-directional layout (for rtl
 languages). Those design decisions
 were
 made by
 the OFBiz community and, in
 my opinion, continue to make the
 Flat
 Grey theme
 the fallback theme when all
 else fails. It just works.
 
 Despite its advantages, it looks
 dated. I
 would
 like to update it to make
 it more modern, but maintain its
 advantages over
 the other themes. I'm
 thinking it only needs css and gif
 file
 updates.
 The current templates and
 javascripts would be maintained.
 
 If anyone is interested, they are
 welcome
 to help
 out. I would also
 appreciate any suggestions or
 comments.
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
 -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sascha Rodekamp
 Lynx-Consulting GmbH
 Johanniskirchplatz 6
 D-33615 Bielefeld
 http://www.lynx.de
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread David E Jones

I think you may be taking the specific term type and generalizing it. 
Consider that *Type entities in OFBiz mean something very specific, and it is 
different from the more general use of the term in the book.

-David


On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 That's not what the book shows. There is a simple relationship:
 
 Party - PartyClassification - PartyType
 
 If you want to group classifications, give them parent/child relationships, 
 etc then you do it with PartyType, not PartyClassification. Look at table 2.3 
 on page 32.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net wrote:
 how about a pattern of parent child
 for PartyClassification of supertype 
   and the sub types then use a table for the
 attributess of the subtype.
 this would allow walking the parnent child relationships.
 PartyClassification 
 ---organizationClassificationminorityClassification


industryclassification
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:46 PM:
 PartyClassificationGroup should have a one-to-one
 relationship with an entity called
 PartyClassificationGroupType.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net 
 wrote:
 so the Party Classification Group
 table would have a one to one with
 Classification Types
 or vica versa.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 1:41
 PM:
 Looking into this more, The Data Model
 Resource Book
 mentions classification groups - but I believe the
 author
 meant that Party Types could be grouped together
 in
 classification groups. In other words, the
 classification
 groups are defined by the data contained in the
 Party Type
 table - not in a separate Party Classification
 Group
 table. There is nothing stopping us from having a
 Party
 Classification Group table, but it should group
 Party Types,
 not Classification Types.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Looking at The Data Model Resource
 Book and the way OFBiz models Party
 Classification, it
 appears to me OFBiz models it wrong.
 
 According to the book, the Party
 Classification
 entity ties
 a Party to a Party Type with a from and
 thru
 date.
 
 In OFBiz, the Party Classification entity
 ties a
 Party to a
 Party Classification Group with a from and
 thru
 date. The
 Party Type is tied directly to Party with
 no from
 and thru
 date.
 
 Was that intentional? Why was it done that
 way?
 
 -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
I don't think I'm generalizing anything. The book is pretty specific and clear: 
Party Classification is an intersection entity that sets up a many-to-many 
relationship between the Party entity and the Party Type entity.

I understand OFBiz deviates from the book here and there, and if this is one of 
those cases, then I'll ask again: Why was it done that way?

I'm trying to make sense of the OFBiz Party Classification model, and so far it 
doesn't make sense. The way it is set up, I can't give a party a classification 
without first creating a classification group, assign a classification type to 
it, and then assign the party to the classification group using party 
classification.

In the book it's much simpler - I just assign a party type to a party using a 
party classification. Classification groups are Party Classification sub-types 
and they aren't necessary unless I want to group things a certain way.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, David E Jones d...@me.com wrote:
 I think you may be taking the specific term type and
 generalizing it. Consider that *Type entities in OFBiz mean
 something very specific, and it is different from the more
 general use of the term in the book.
 
 -David
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
  That's not what the book shows. There is a simple
 relationship:
  
  Party - PartyClassification - PartyType
  
  If you want to group classifications, give them
 parent/child relationships, etc then you do it with
 PartyType, not PartyClassification. Look at table 2.3 on
 page 32.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net
 wrote:
  how about a pattern of parent child
  for PartyClassification of supertype 
    and the sub types then use a
 table for the
  attributess of the subtype.
  this would allow walking the parnent child
 relationships.
  PartyClassification 
 
 ---organizationClassificationminorityClassification
              
   
             
     industryclassification
  
  =
  BJ Freeman
  Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
  http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
  Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
  Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
  
  Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
  
  
  Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:46
 PM:
  PartyClassificationGroup should have a
 one-to-one
  relationship with an entity called
  PartyClassificationGroupType.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
  wrote:
  so the Party Classification Group
  table would have a one to one with
  Classification Types
  or vica versa.
  
  
  =
  BJ Freeman
  Strategic Power Office with Supplier
 Automation
  http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
  Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
  Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
  
  Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
  
  
  Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011
 1:41
  PM:
  Looking into this more, The Data
 Model
  Resource Book
  mentions classification groups - but I
 believe the
  author
  meant that Party Types could be grouped
 together
  in
  classification groups. In other words,
 the
  classification
  groups are defined by the data contained
 in the
  Party Type
  table - not in a separate Party
 Classification
  Group
  table. There is nothing stopping us from
 having a
  Party
  Classification Group table, but it should
 group
  Party Types,
  not Classification Types.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  Looking at The Data Model
 Resource
  Book and the way OFBiz models
 Party
  Classification, it
  appears to me OFBiz models it
 wrong.
  
  According to the book, the Party
  Classification
  entity ties
  a Party to a Party Type with a
 from and
  thru
  date.
  
  In OFBiz, the Party Classification
 entity
  ties a
  Party to a
  Party Classification Group with a
 from and
  thru
  date. The
  Party Type is tied directly to
 Party with
  no from
  and thru
  date.
  
  Was that intentional? Why was it
 done that
  way?
  
  -Adrian
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 





Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread David E Jones

Every single *Type entity in OFBiz is a deviation from the book (ie the *Type 
entities are an OFBiz pattern to avoid redundant entities and keep track of 
entity extensions like the Party - PartyGroup,Person thingy), as are dozens of 
other entities and hundreds of fields. That book is valuable for general 
concepts and patterns, and is not an actual data model to be used as-is.

-David


On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 I don't think I'm generalizing anything. The book is pretty specific and 
 clear: Party Classification is an intersection entity that sets up a 
 many-to-many relationship between the Party entity and the Party Type entity.
 
 I understand OFBiz deviates from the book here and there, and if this is one 
 of those cases, then I'll ask again: Why was it done that way?
 
 I'm trying to make sense of the OFBiz Party Classification model, and so far 
 it doesn't make sense. The way it is set up, I can't give a party a 
 classification without first creating a classification group, assign a 
 classification type to it, and then assign the party to the classification 
 group using party classification.
 
 In the book it's much simpler - I just assign a party type to a party using a 
 party classification. Classification groups are Party Classification 
 sub-types and they aren't necessary unless I want to group things a certain 
 way.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, David E Jones d...@me.com wrote:
 I think you may be taking the specific term type and
 generalizing it. Consider that *Type entities in OFBiz mean
 something very specific, and it is different from the more
 general use of the term in the book.
 
 -David
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 That's not what the book shows. There is a simple
 relationship:
 
 Party - PartyClassification - PartyType
 
 If you want to group classifications, give them
 parent/child relationships, etc then you do it with
 PartyType, not PartyClassification. Look at table 2.3 on
 page 32.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net
 wrote:
 how about a pattern of parent child
 for PartyClassification of supertype 
and the sub types then use a
 table for the
 attributess of the subtype.
 this would allow walking the parnent child
 relationships.
 PartyClassification 
 
 ---organizationClassificationminorityClassification
  
   
 
 industryclassification
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation 
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011 2:46
 PM:
 PartyClassificationGroup should have a
 one-to-one
 relationship with an entity called
 PartyClassificationGroupType.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
 wrote:
 so the Party Classification Group
 table would have a one to one with
 Classification Types
 or vica versa.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier
 Automation
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011
 1:41
 PM:
 Looking into this more, The Data
 Model
 Resource Book
 mentions classification groups - but I
 believe the
 author
 meant that Party Types could be grouped
 together
 in
 classification groups. In other words,
 the
 classification
 groups are defined by the data contained
 in the
 Party Type
 table - not in a separate Party
 Classification
 Group
 table. There is nothing stopping us from
 having a
 Party
 Classification Group table, but it should
 group
 Party Types,
 not Classification Types.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 Looking at The Data Model
 Resource
 Book and the way OFBiz models
 Party
 Classification, it
 appears to me OFBiz models it
 wrong.
 
 According to the book, the Party
 Classification
 entity ties
 a Party to a Party Type with a
 from and
 thru
 date.
 
 In OFBiz, the Party Classification
 entity
 ties a
 Party to a
 Party Classification Group with a
 from and
 thru
 date. The
 Party Type is tied directly to
 Party with
 no from
 and thru
 date.
 
 Was that intentional? Why was it
 done that
 way?
 
 -Adrian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-4077) Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1

2011-01-03 Thread JIRA

 [ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4077?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi updated OFBIZ-4077:
-

Attachment: OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch

Brazilian Portuguese translation to labels in framework/common/config - First 
part 

 Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1
 -

 Key: OFBIZ-4077
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4077
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: Revision 1053118
Reporter: Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi
Priority: Trivial
 Fix For: SVN trunk

 Attachments: OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch, 
 OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch


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Re: Localization experiences to share

2011-01-03 Thread Luís Maranesi
Hi Sascha,

Yes, I've already. I've been translating some of them for some time. I
needed to know who translated the others and if the person had some comment
about other aspect of localizations concerning accounting laws and
regulation, for example.

But thank you very much for your answer.

Cheers,
Luís

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx.de@
googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Luís,
 did you look into the uiLabels already? These files contains all language
 translations. So OFbiz is localized to a lot of languages and it can be
 extended easily.

 Cheers
 Sascha

 2011/1/3 Luís Maranesi luis.maran...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  I have sent the following to the user list last week and it seems that no
  one have any information to share. If someone here at the dev list have
  some
  information I'd be grateful for any help.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Luís
 
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  From: Luís Maranesi luis.maran...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:51 AM
  Subject: Localization experiences to share
  To: u...@ofbiz.apache.org
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm writing because I've been trying to localize OFBiz to be used in
 Brazil
  or at least to make that easier to happen. I'd like to ask if someone
 here
  have any experience to share about OFBiz localization in other languages
  and
  countries.
 
  If there is someone that can help me, I'd like to know what were the main
  aspects taken into account in the localization process. Comments about
  things concerning local laws and accounting laws and regulation would be
  appreciated too.
 
  In fact I need these information to add some comments in a report I'm
 about
  to present.
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Luís Maranesi
 



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[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-4077) Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)

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Adrian Crum reassigned OFBIZ-4077:
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 Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1
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 Key: OFBIZ-4077
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4077
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: Revision 1053118
Reporter: Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi
Assignee: Adrian Crum
Priority: Trivial
 Fix For: SVN trunk

 Attachments: OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch, 
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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-4077) Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)

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Adrian Crum closed OFBIZ-4077.
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Fixed, rev 1054881. Thanks Luis!


 Brazilian Portuguese tranlation to labels in framework/common/config - Part 1
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 Key: OFBIZ-4077
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4077
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: Revision 1053118
Reporter: Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi
Assignee: Adrian Crum
Priority: Trivial
 Fix For: SVN trunk

 Attachments: OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch, 
 OFBIZ-4077_BR_Portuguese__Common_Part_1.patch


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Re: Party Classification Data Modeling

2011-01-03 Thread Adrian Crum
Understood. If we wanted to create entities to avoid the sub-types mentioned in 
the book (Organization Classification, Person Classisfication, etc) then I 
think we could have done that in a simpler way and still keep the book's model:

PartyClassificationGroupType

*groupTypeId
description
parentGroupTypeId

PartyClassificationGroup

*groupTypeId
*partyTypeId

Anyways, I have come up with a workaround. I'll just use the existing 
PartyClassificationGroup the way the book uses PartyType.

-Adrian


--- On Mon, 1/3/11, David E Jones d...@me.com wrote:
 Every single *Type entity in OFBiz is a deviation from the
 book (ie the *Type entities are an OFBiz pattern to avoid
 redundant entities and keep track of entity extensions like
 the Party - PartyGroup,Person thingy), as are dozens of
 other entities and hundreds of fields. That book is valuable
 for general concepts and patterns, and is not an actual data
 model to be used as-is.
 
 -David
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
  I don't think I'm generalizing anything. The book is
 pretty specific and clear: Party Classification is an
 intersection entity that sets up a many-to-many relationship
 between the Party entity and the Party Type entity.
  
  I understand OFBiz deviates from the book here and
 there, and if this is one of those cases, then I'll ask
 again: Why was it done that way?
  
  I'm trying to make sense of the OFBiz Party
 Classification model, and so far it doesn't make sense. The
 way it is set up, I can't give a party a classification
 without first creating a classification group, assign a
 classification type to it, and then assign the party to the
 classification group using party classification.
  
  In the book it's much simpler - I just assign a party
 type to a party using a party classification. Classification
 groups are Party Classification sub-types and they aren't
 necessary unless I want to group things a certain way.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, David E Jones d...@me.com
 wrote:
  I think you may be taking the specific term type
 and
  generalizing it. Consider that *Type entities in
 OFBiz mean
  something very specific, and it is different from
 the more
  general use of the term in the book.
  
  -David
  
  
  On Jan 3, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
  
  That's not what the book shows. There is a
 simple
  relationship:
  
  Party - PartyClassification -
 PartyType
  
  If you want to group classifications, give
 them
  parent/child relationships, etc then you do it
 with
  PartyType, not PartyClassification. Look at table
 2.3 on
  page 32.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net
  wrote:
  how about a pattern of parent child
  for PartyClassification of supertype 
     and the sub types then use a
  table for the
  attributess of the subtype.
  this would allow walking the parnent
 child
  relationships.
  PartyClassification 
  
 
 ---organizationClassificationminorityClassification
            
   
    
          
    
  
    industryclassification
  
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  Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/3/2011
 2:46
  PM:
  PartyClassificationGroup should have
 a
  one-to-one
  relationship with an entity called
  PartyClassificationGroupType.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
  
  wrote:
  so the Party Classification Group
  table would have a one to one
 with
  Classification Types
  or vica versa.
  
  
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  Adrian Crum sent the following on
 1/3/2011
  1:41
  PM:
  Looking into this more, The
 Data
  Model
  Resource Book
  mentions classification groups -
 but I
  believe the
  author
  meant that Party Types could be
 grouped
  together
  in
  classification groups. In other
 words,
  the
  classification
  groups are defined by the data
 contained
  in the
  Party Type
  table - not in a separate Party
  Classification
  Group
  table. There is nothing stopping
 us from
  having a
  Party
  Classification Group table, but it
 should
  group
  Party Types,
  not Classification Types.
  
  -Adrian
  
  --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Adrian
 Crumadrian.c...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  Looking at The Data Model
  Resource
  Book and the way OFBiz
 models
  Party
  Classification, it
  appears to me OFBiz models
 it
  wrong.
  
  According to the book, the
 Party
  Classification
  entity ties
  a Party to a Party Type
 

Database connection

2011-01-03 Thread kalaiselvan velmurugan
Sir,

 Hi sir i am new to apache ofbiz and now i use the ofbiz i want
details about database connection in ofbiz the step by step
manner..

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Re: Database connection

2011-01-03 Thread vivek

Dear Kalai,

I believe you will definitely enjoy working on this framework.
However firstly let me know what database you are willing to use.
Is it derby, mysql,etc..
In order to configure the database you need to have the database driver made
available inside framework/entity/lib/jdbc folder.

Then whatever database you are willing to use give the details for the
database  its connection in entityengine.xml for particular one eg
localderby, localmysql etc.

Just run the framework using java -jar ofbiz.jar once,  for the first time
the database structure gets automatically populated. If you wish to load the
seed demo data you can write the command java -jar ofbiz.jar -install
-readers=seed,demo,ext

You can then use the editor for the corresponding database to view 
manipulate it.

Hope it would help you.


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Re: Database connection

2011-01-03 Thread BJ Freeman

Please use the user mailing list for such questions, see:
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/mailing-lists.html

the documentation is internal to ofbiz
http://localhost:8080/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
this has setup for ofbiz in the technical section.
also
http://ofbiz.apache.org/docs/coreconfig.html
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide


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kalaiselvan velmurugan sent the following on 1/3/2011 8:43 PM:

Sir,

  Hi sir i am new to apache ofbiz and now i use the ofbiz i want
details about database connection in ofbiz the step by step
manner..