How to enable UNO services through Script on other platforms except Windows?

[Kejia Ye]

Hi,

I'm trying to connect to AOO and calling some UNO services by a script. I
found a solution about
Automation_Bridgeand
it works for me, but it can only be used on Windows, due to the COM
implementation dependency.

Does anybody know is there any method that I can run a script to control
AOO remotely on other platforms, like Linux or Mac?

thanks!
Ke Jia

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot and final integration of language updates

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 9/7/13 10:05 AM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> 2013/9/6 Jürgen Schmidt 
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> we are currently uploading a new snapshot build based on the SNAPSHOT
>> tag revision 1520285 (corresponding rev. on AOO401 branch 1520244).
>>
>> The upload is ongoing and takes some time. The wiki page reflects the
>> new build and if a link is not yet working, please try again later.
>>
>> This snapshot includes additional languages Serbian Cyrillic and
>> Vietnamese and further lang updates.
>>
>> Vietnamese is currently not available on Windows due to build problems.
>> For creating the download package we have to use the unicode version of
>> nsis which have support for Vietnamese. But there is some more work
>> necessary and I won't be able investigate in this problem for this
>> snapshot. Easy and fast switch to the unicode version doesn't work.
>> Sorry but Vietnamese is on risk.
>>
>> For details please check
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/snapshot_rev1520244.htm
>>
>> Details of the former snapshot can be found under
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/snapshot_rev1518667.htm
>>
>>
>> My plan is to finally update the languages on Monday, that means an
>> indirect extension of the translation deadline until Sunday Sep 7th.
>>
>> I plan also to integrate further bug fixes until Wednesday 11th.
>>
>> Please work with the snapshots and report issues asap that we can take
>> potential problems into account.
>>
>> With AOO 4.1 we will shift to a beta release cycle but not for the 4.0.1.
>>
> 
> 
> There is a small problem with the md5 and sha256 files for Linux builds
> that makes the "-c" parameter fail: instead of listing the file name there
> is a path, for example
> 
> 
> /tmp/snapshots/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_es.tar.gz
> 
> instead of just
> 
> 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_es.tar.gz
> 

a minor problem that will be solved with the next build


> Win and Mac files are OK.
> 


I noticed that many builds for Mac and Windows are still not available
because of network problems. I uploading the files are now again ...

Juergen



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>  Ricardo
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Wrong "vendor" on last dev build

[Herbert Duerr]

On 07.09.2013 10:39, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

Under Help → About OpenOffice it seems that the build system name is used
as vendor:

AOO401m3(Build:9712)  -  Rev. 1520285
2013-09-05 14:04 - Linux x86_64

Copyright © 2013 aoo_centos5_64.

Este producto fue creado por aoo_centos5_64, basado en Apache OpenOffice


Good point. I'll remove the vendor option for the official builds from 
my configure script.


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Re: requirements for vm-admins of forum/translate/wiki

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

(Note:  I'm not talking about "configuration".  I'm talking about
website content, things like logos, contact information, terms and
conditions, copyright statements, etc.) ...
So this is not an either/or question.  We should both have an active
admin team as well as move toward allowing committers to maintain the
content of our websites.


If they are different issues, let's focus on getting the first one 
(admin team) solved.


I believe that if we have active "web admins" (meaning people who have 
extended privileges, but through the web interface only, like it already 
happens for the Forums) the use case for the second one ("committer as 
maintainers") is very limited. And I don't expect that with the future 
(or current) setup you will have to wait one month to get Google 
Analytics integrated if it is something that can be done in a few 
minutes. I prefer that we leave the maintenance to admins who adhere to 
a "code of conduct" like the one Jan drafted; if this becomes a 
bottleneck, we can see what to do, but this will depend on the specific 
application anyway.


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Re: permission problem with Windows SDK from snapshot 4.0.1

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 9/6/13 9:03 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> when I click on Windows version of SDK in
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> I get an error "Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access
> /~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/windows/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
> on this server."

it should work now

Juergen


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Andrea Pescetti]

janI wrote:

On Sep 9, 2013 6:17 AM, "Daniel Shahaf" wrote:

I don't know what topics you guys are looking for a place
to discuss, so I can't say whether a private list or a public list would
better meet your needs.

I have nothing against such a list, but it was not needed while I
coordinated vm-team. I prefer direct mail for that purpose.


I would find it handy to have an alias. Indeed, it makes it easier to 
have incident reports more visible than now (in the dev list traffic).


An alias is also nice to have for internal discussions within the team, 
since already with 4-5 team members it's just easier to use an alias.


But I'm really thinking of just an alias that forwards mail, not a 
public or private mailing list. For example, how does 
aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org work? Maybe that one is a model we could 
follow.



such a request should come from the admins, if wanted.


Makes sense. We may want to get the proposal about structuring admins 
approved before preparing specific tools.


Regards,
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Re: Bad links to API module pages

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 9/7/13 3:10 PM, Ron Blanshine wrote:
> To whom it may concern:
> 
> On the following page: http://www.openoffice.org/api/modules.html, none
> of the links to the Modules in the API Project work, but produce a 404
> error.
> 

I can't access http://www.openoffice.org/api at all. Seems to be a
general problem

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Re: Bad links to API module pages

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 9/9/13 9:30 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 9/7/13 3:10 PM, Ron Blanshine wrote:
>> To whom it may concern:
>>
>> On the following page: http://www.openoffice.org/api/modules.html, none
>> of the links to the Modules in the API Project work, but produce a 404
>> error.
>>
> 
> I can't access http://www.openoffice.org/api at all. Seems to be a
> general problem

ok, now I can reproduce the problem and yes these links are still old
and have to be corrected. I will do that asap ...

Juergen


> 
> Juergen
> 
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Re: Netbeans created OXT Addon throws an InvalidRegistryException

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 9/8/13 4:19 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on updating the Netbeans plugin for AOO 4.0.
> 
> Installing a Netbeans created OXT Addon throws an InvalidRegistryException:
> 
> ImplementationRegistration::registerImplementation()
> InvalidRegistryException during registration (prepareRegistry():
> source registry is empty)
> 
> Any ideas on changes to AOO that may cause this?
> 
> I have created a bug for netbeans:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123215

I assume that NE plugin have to be adapted to reflect the latest changes
in AOO. One change is the reworked 3 layer that has impact on the
configuration of the plugin. And in your case the Addons.xcu file
generation have to be changed to reflect the changes in the config files.

Juergen

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> Carl
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

[Herbert Duerr]

On 07.09.2013 00:17, Steele, Raymond wrote:

To address the isfinite() issue I added the following to rtl/math.hxx:

#ifdef SOLARIS
#undef SAL_MATH_FINITE
#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)
#endf

Your links were very helpful. Thanks so much.


Wonderful, so this problem is mostly solved. We just need to get it 
cleanly into the mathconf.h. How about this patch?


--- main/sal/inc/sal/mathconf.h
+++ main/sal/inc/sal/mathconf.h
@@ -55,7 +55,9 @@ extern "C" {


 /* SAL_MATH_FINITE(d): test double d on INFINITY, NaN et al. */
-#if defined(__GNUC__) // workaround gcc bug 14608
+#if defined(OS2) || defined(SOLARIS)
+   #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)
+#elif defined(__GNUC__) // workaround gcc bug 14608
#if (__GNUC_MINOR__ >= 3) // gcc>=4.3 has a builtin
#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) __builtin_isfinite(d)
#else
@@ -67,8 +69,6 @@ extern "C" {
#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) isfinite(d)
 #elif defined( WNT)
 #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) _finite(d)
-#elif defined OS2
-#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)
 #elif defined LINUX || defined UNX
 #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)
 #else /* WNT, LINUX, UNX */


Now onto:

integer_fwd.cpp contains the following on line 136 and 137:

136: template < > 137: struct low_bits_mask_t< ::std::numeric_limits::digits>;


I'm not sure whether you saw my mail from September 2nd 
(http://markmail.org/message/bt7bazzvb6zionee):


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STDCXX-937 might have to do with 
this. It mentions a compiler bug 6703971 but that doesn't seem to be 
available any more. I suggest to update the compiler to its latest patch 
level.


Of course it would also interesting to know what type 
::std::numeric_limits::digits on that platform. The error 
message looks as if this was not an integer but a class. The C++ spec 
requires that the type should be an int. Please check the  
include file.


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4.0.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 123103] Czech (cs) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1

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Bug 123103: Czech (cs) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123103


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Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Wolfgang Gerster]

Dear Developers,

My computer tells me OO 4.0 is ready for downloading. Which I understand
as updating the latest 3.xx version I have on my computer. Your
homepage, however, directs me to two download options which I cannot
find any use for (others may, though). Maybe I am a bit too backward to
understand geek directions (even in my native German), and I am not into
twitter, facebook and the like as I find mailing quite strenuous enough.
So what is a person supposed to do?

Yours,
Wolfgang Gerster.

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Re: Bad links to API module pages

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:30:39 +0200
Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:

> On 9/7/13 3:10 PM, Ron Blanshine wrote:
> > To whom it may concern:
> > 
> > On the following page: http://www.openoffice.org/api/modules.html, none
> > of the links to the Modules in the API Project work, but produce a 404
> > error.
> > 
> 
> I can't access http://www.openoffice.org/api at all. Seems to be a
> general problem
> 
> Juergen
> 

I got it first attempt just now, Juergen. Perhaps you should clear your browser 
cache?

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Rory O'Farrell]

On 09 Sep 2013 09:07 GMT
"Wolfgang Gerster"  wrote:

> Dear Developers,
> 
> My computer tells me OO 4.0 is ready for downloading. Which I understand
> as updating the latest 3.xx version I have on my computer. Your
> homepage, however, directs me to two download options which I cannot
> find any use for (others may, though). Maybe I am a bit too backward to
> understand geek directions (even in my native German), and I am not into
> twitter, facebook and the like as I find mailing quite strenuous enough.
> So what is a person supposed to do?
> 
> Yours,
> Wolfgang Gerster.
> 
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> 
There is a problem in downloading using certain browsers, which problem is in 
course for being fixed. Try this URL for direct access to the download page
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

[Herbert Duerr]

Hi Raymond,

On 07.09.2013 02:17, Steele, Raymond wrote:

Problem after problem.


So far the problems where quite trivial platform differences. Of course 
the problems only become simple after their root cause is understood ;-)



Now I am getting:

Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source

Compiling: configmgr/source/partial.cxx
"/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 199: Error: Could not find a match for 
boost::tuples::get(const 
boost::tuples::tuple) needed in 
boost::unordered::detail::construct_from_tuple(configmgr::Partial::Node*, const boost::tuples::tuple&).
"/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 350: Where: While instantiating 
"boost::unordered::detail::construct_from_tuple(configmgr::Partial::Node*, const boost::tuples::tuple&)".
"/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 350: Where: Instantiated from 
boost::unordered::unordered_map, 
_STL::equal_to, _STL::allocator<_STL::pair>>::operator[](const rtl::OUString&).
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source/partial.cxx", line 82: Where: 
Instantiated from non-template code.
1 Error(s) detected.
dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxsoli4.pro/slo/partial.obj'


What version of AOO are you building? AOO trunk? AOO400 or AOO401? If 
you're not building AOO trunk I suggest to apply my change from revision 
1515285 to it and recompile configmgr. If it helps then the change is a 
candidate to be merged into the release branch as well.


[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1515285

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Rory O'Farrell]

On 09 Sep 2013 09:07 GMT
"Wolfgang Gerster"  wrote:

> Dear Developers,
> 
> My computer tells me OO 4.0 is ready for downloading. Which I understand
> as updating the latest 3.xx version I have on my computer. Your
> homepage, however, directs me to two download options which I cannot
> find any use for (others may, though). Maybe I am a bit too backward to
> understand geek directions (even in my native German), and I am not into
> twitter, facebook and the like as I find mailing quite strenuous enough.
> So what is a person supposed to do?
> 
> Yours,
> Wolfgang Gerster.
> 
> -- 
> Bitte denken Sie an unsere Umwelt, bevor Sie diese E-Mail drucken.
> Wolfgang Gerster
> Kirschenhohl 5
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> T/F *49(0)6442-5262
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> www.villaampark.de.vu
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> 
There is a problem in downloading using certain browsers, which problem is in 
course for being fixed. Try this URL for direct access to the download page
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

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Re: How to enable UNO services through Script on other platforms except Windows?

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi Ke Jia,

On 9/9/13 9:09 AM, Kejia Ye wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to connect to AOO and calling some UNO services by a script. I
> found a solution about
> Automation_Bridgeand
> it works for me, but it can only be used on Windows, due to the COM
> implementation dependency.
> 
> Does anybody know is there any method that I can run a script to control
> AOO remotely on other platforms, like Linux or Mac?

Sure you can use Python to automate tasks or you can use Java. It really
depends on what you have in mind to do.

Maybe you can explain what you have in mind

Juergen



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Re: Netbeans created OXT Addon throws an InvalidRegistryException

[Carl Marcum]

On 09/09/2013 03:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 9/8/13 4:19 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi all,

I'm working on updating the Netbeans plugin for AOO 4.0.

Installing a Netbeans created OXT Addon throws an InvalidRegistryException:

ImplementationRegistration::registerImplementation()
InvalidRegistryException during registration (prepareRegistry():
source registry is empty)

Any ideas on changes to AOO that may cause this?

I have created a bug for netbeans:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123215


I assume that NE plugin have to be adapted to reflect the latest changes
in AOO. One change is the reworked 3 layer that has impact on the
configuration of the plugin. And in your case the Addons.xcu file
generation have to be changed to reflect the changes in the config files.


I have implemented changes to Addons.xcu for setting the toolbar name 
described here:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577

I documented the change and have a sample file here:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122055

Where can I find more info on the 3 layer change and how it affects the 
plugin?


Thanks,
Carl



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4.0.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 123115] Lithuanian (lt) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1

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Bug 123115: Lithuanian (lt) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123115


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again it worked and the UI is now 100% complete.

I will test it now, potentially there are problems in the help files

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OO 4.0 download

[Wolfgang Gerster]

Hello Rory,

this URL http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html works
beautifully, but lands me at the same junction (part screenshot
attached) I do not know how to navigate further. It seems to me I am
supposed to pick numbers of various items for integration into my future
OO version, but then I am nonplussed by yet more pages of suggestions.
Can't we have it all in one lot? Or rather: can't the OO 4.0-version
pick its way along the 3.4 version already installed? Maybe the download
manager could ask or suggest additional facilities as it went along. By
the way, I am still on windows XP and do not yet know what I am going to
do about Window's cutting the line.

Thanks for your help forthcoming.

Yours,
Wolfgang Gerster.


> Dear Developers, 
> 
> My computer tells me OO 4.0 is ready for downloading. Which I understand 
> as updating the latest 3.xx version I have on my computer. Your 
> homepage, however, directs me to two download options which I cannot 
> find any use for (others may, though). Maybe I am a bit too backward to 
> understand geek directions (even in my native German), and I am not into 
> twitter, facebook and the like as I find mailing quite strenuous enough. 
> So what is a person supposed to do? 
> 
> Yours, 
> Wolfgang Gerster. 
> 
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> 
There is a problem in downloading using certain browsers, which problem
is in course for being fixed. Try this URL for direct access to the
download page 
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html 

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Re: OO 4.0 download

[Rory O'Farrell]

On 09 Sep 2013 11:22 GMT
"Wolfgang Gerster"  wrote:

> Hello Rory,
> 
> this URL http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html works
> beautifully, but lands me at the same junction (part screenshot
> attached) I do not know how to navigate further. It seems to me I am
> supposed to pick numbers of various items for integration into my future
> OO version, but then I am nonplussed by yet more pages of suggestions.
> Can't we have it all in one lot? Or rather: can't the OO 4.0-version
> pick its way along the 3.4 version already installed? Maybe the download
> manager could ask or suggest additional facilities as it went along. By
> the way, I am still on windows XP and do not yet know what I am going to
> do about Window's cutting the line.
> 
> Thanks for your help forthcoming.
> 
> Yours,
> Wolfgang Gerster.
> 
> 
> > Dear Developers, 
> > 
> > My computer tells me OO 4.0 is ready for downloading. Which I understand 
> > as updating the latest 3.xx version I have on my computer. Your 
> > homepage, however, directs me to two download options which I cannot 
> > find any use for (others may, though). Maybe I am a bit too backward to 
> > understand geek directions (even in my native German), and I am not into 
> > twitter, facebook and the like as I find mailing quite strenuous enough. 
> > So what is a person supposed to do? 
> > 
> > Yours, 
> > Wolfgang Gerster. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bitte denken Sie an unsere Umwelt, bevor Sie diese E-Mail drucken. 
> > Wolfgang Gerster 
> > Kirschenhohl 5 
> > D-35619 Braunfels 
> > T/F *49(0)6442-5262 
> > eMail wolfgers...@t-online.de 
> > www.villaampark.de.vu 
> > Meine Suchmaschine ist www.ecosia.de 
> > 
> There is a problem in downloading using certain browsers, which problem
> is in course for being fixed. Try this URL for direct access to the
> download page 
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html 
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell  
>

I doubt you have pasted the URL correctly into your browser, as it must take 
you to a completely different page than that you have illustrated.

A direct download for a German version of OpenOffice 4.0, running on Windows, 
is at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe/download

(all on one line, please)

-- 
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Re: permission problem with Windows SDK from snapshot 4.0.1

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Jürgen,

Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:

On 9/6/13 9:03 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

when I click on Windows version of SDK in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
I get an error "Forbidden
You don't have permission to access
/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/windows/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
on this server."


it should work now


Yes. Download is possible now.

Kind regards
Regina


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[bugzilla]

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for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123161: In Standard and Advanced Filter "Copy Results to" only works
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https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123161


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Bug 123102: German (de) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1
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contact_us.html: new clues

[Rob Weir]

When we get a misdirected email sent to the dev list with a subject
reporting a website error, it is coming from a user who is reading
http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html.

We've been doing some fine tuning of the language on that page to try
to make it more clear to the user that they should use the forum or
the user list for product questions.   But it is not clear this is
working.

So I took a look at the data from the last 30 days, via Google
Analytics.  Some interesting and unexpected findings.

First, what was the page the user was visiting before they went to the
contact page?

28% of the time they were on /support/index.html page
26% of the time they were on /index.html
14% of the time they were on /download/index.html
4% of the time they were on /product/index.html

So the highest ranking page is the support page, the one that should
have helped the user in the first place.   The user would scroll
through that entire list, and then find the contact link at the bottom
of the page, read that and ignore all the support options described
before they send an email to the dev list.

We might want to revisit the support page to see if that can be clarified.

-Rob

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM, janI  wrote:
>
> On Sep 9, 2013 6:17 AM, "Daniel Shahaf"  wrote:
>>
>> Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 22:14:13 -0400:
>> > On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 21:42:17 -0400:
>> > >> I'd like to propose a new mailing list:  ad...@openoffice.apache.org
>> > >
>> > > Public archives or private archives?
>> >
>> > I was assuming it would be public.  If something needed to be
>> > discussed privately it could be done on the infra or infra-dev lists.
>>
>> infra-dev@ is public.
>>
>> infra@ is technically private but allows any committer to subscribe,
>> which makes it wider than is suitable for some discussions (such as "Who
>> is going to install that security patch that has just been announced?").
>>
>> > Does that make sense?  Or would you recommend something else?
>>
>> Hard to say: some topics should be public and some topics need to be
>> private, but I don't know what topics you guys are looking for a place
>> to discuss, so I can't say whether a private list or a public list would
>> better meet your needs.
>
> I have nothing against such a list, but it was not needed while I
> coordinated vm-team. I prefer direct mail for that purpose.
>
> I am the opinion that such a request should come from the admins, if wanted.
>

The intent is not merely for vm-team admins to talk to each other.
Remember we have other admins as well, including blog, bugzilla, even
mailing list moderators.  So the world of admins is bigger than just
vm admins.   Since I am involved as an admin in some of these areas,
this proposal in fact is coming from an admin.

Second, and as stated in the proposal, the point is also to have a
single point of contact for the public and for project members.

Regards,

-Rob


> rgds
> jan I
>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Daniel
>
>
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 22:14:13 -0400:
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>
>> > Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 21:42:17 -0400:
>> >> I'd like to propose a new mailing list:  ad...@openoffice.apache.org
>> >
>> > Public archives or private archives?
>>
>> I was assuming it would be public.  If something needed to be
>> discussed privately it could be done on the infra or infra-dev lists.
>
> infra-dev@ is public.
>
> infra@ is technically private but allows any committer to subscribe,
> which makes it wider than is suitable for some discussions (such as "Who
> is going to install that security patch that has just been announced?").
>
>> Does that make sense?  Or would you recommend something else?
>
> Hard to say: some topics should be public and some topics need to be
> private, but I don't know what topics you guys are looking for a place
> to discuss, so I can't say whether a private list or a public list would
> better meet your needs.
>

It was suggested in another thread, if I understood correctly, that
items that would require a secure conversation are ones that would
also benefit from having Infra in the loop.  There is probably more
than one way to do this.

-Rob


> HTH
>
> Daniel

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Max Merbald]

Hello Mel,

unfortunately you didn't tell us what was your actual problem with Open 
Office, and that makes it rather difficult to help you. If you do not 
wish to have OpenOffice on your computer just uninstall it. I don't 
believe that yelling would help you.


Max


Am 09.09.2013 03:30, schrieb Mel Goddard:

GET OUT OF MY COMPUTER!
I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED YOU, AND YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH 
MY WORK ON THIS THING!

GET OUT NOW!
mdgoddard3...@i-zoom.net

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Re: How to enable UNO services through Script on other platforms except Windows?

[Kejia Ye]

I'm using LotusScript, a script language used in Lotus Notes, also
described as "BASIC-like". It is useful to access and export the back-end
data. And I'm thinking to use it to export the data and generate
spreadsheet reports from AOO directly.

Is there some
 similar samples or experience to do things like that? Maybe something like
VB scripts?


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Ke Jia,
>
> On 9/9/13 9:09 AM, Kejia Ye wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to connect to AOO and calling some UNO services by a script. I
> > found a solution about
> > Automation_Bridge<
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ProUNO/Bridge/Automation_Bridge
> >and
> > it works for me, but it can only be used on Windows, due to the COM
> > implementation dependency.
> >
> > Does anybody know is there any method that I can run a script to control
> > AOO remotely on other platforms, like Linux or Mac?
>
> Sure you can use Python to automate tasks or you can use Java. It really
> depends on what you have in mind to do.
>
> Maybe you can explain what you have in mind
>
> Juergen
>
>
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Re: [Request for review] - Solution for 122927 - =IF(AK3=" ";0;IF(AK3="Y";195;IF(AK3="N";125))) produces FALSE instead of $0.00

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Clarence,

Clarence GUO schrieb:

Regina,
Sorry for my pen mistake, all statement of 12666 in my previous comment
should be 121126. I also corrected it in the issue.
About formula "=2>1", it is from the sample XLS in 121126. Once I rolled
back fix code of 121126, I found it returned 1.0.
I tested formula with "=2>1" which applied currency number format, it works.
Thanks for you reminder, I will add checking "if (&rFormatter==NULL)"


My build is finished now. It still shows the error, that TRUE and FALSE 
cannot be formatted to show currency. The format dialog and the sidebar 
property say, that the cell format is "Currency", but the cell itself 
shows TRUE and FALSE.


I have build the version r1520602 with your patch applied. I have used 
MSVC 2008 express.


Kind regards
Regina






2013/9/9 Regina Henschel 


Hi Clarence,

I do not understand some part of the description. Questions inline.

Clarence GUO schrieb:

  Hi~

I'm working on 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122927
I delivered patch to the issue, please help to review.

Root Cause:
In 121126, although in description it only mentioned format code issue,
actually the fix is not only for format code but also for output string
for
logic formula cell. The second one introduced this issue.
I think the change for output string change for logic formulas is
reasonable because before 12666



12666 ?


, from 12666's sample file, a cell with


formula "=2>1" will return 1.0.It is very strange. It should return
"TRUE"

like that in MS Excel.



In all my OOo versions (from 1.1.5 over 2.4.3 to 3.41 and AOO4.0) =2>1
returns TRUE. In which version do you see result 1.0 ?


  So my fix will based on 12666. The root cause is for logic formula cells,

fix code of 12666 forcibly set output string to true or false. But many
AOO
users had manner already that set number format to logic formula cells.
That's different with Excel. In Excel, no matter what number format you
set
to logic formula cells, the output strings are always true and false.
In the sample of this issue, users set number format to currency, because
of the forcibly setting, the string changed.

Solution
My solution is to add checking for logic formula cells, if their output
number formats are certain category like number, currency, date, time,
etc,
we will not change the output string. but if no certain format categories
were applied, for logic formula cells, will change output string to true
and false.



I have applied your patch and build the source. The resulting AOO still
shows the error, that FALSE and TRUE cannot be formatted to currency. The
formatting to other number formats works. The error happens with IF with 1
or 2 parameters and with simple comparisons as well.

But it was not a clean build. I will try it with a clean build, but that
needs half a day on my PC.

Your patch comes with DOS line ends to me. That might be a problem with my
browser. But it would be nice, if you verify, that your patch has UNIX line
ends.

Kind regards
Regina






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Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

On 2013-09-08, at 21:42 , Rob Weir  wrote:

> I'd like to propose a new mailing list:  ad...@openoffice.apache.org
> 
> It would serve a few primary purposes:
> 
I also think it's a good idea. Only issue would be to ensure that the list 
remains up to date.

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Re: contact_us.html: new clues

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

On 2013-09-09, at 08:12 , Rob Weir  wrote:

> When we get a misdirected email sent to the dev list with a subject
> reporting a website error, it is coming from a user who is reading
> http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html.
> 
> We've been doing some fine tuning of the language on that page to try
> to make it more clear to the user that they should use the forum or
> the user list for product questions.   But it is not clear this is
> working.


For history's sake, we went through this on OOo for…. 10 years. Nothing worked, 
which is to say, everything worked, but only for a short time, as new 
populations of those-who-will-not read entered the picture. It's a never ending 
negotiation. 


> 
> So I took a look at the data from the last 30 days, via Google
> Analytics.  Some interesting and unexpected findings.
> 
> First, what was the page the user was visiting before they went to the
> contact page?
> 
> 28% of the time they were on /support/index.html page
> 26% of the time they were on /index.html
> 14% of the time they were on /download/index.html
> 4% of the time they were on /product/index.html
> 
> So the highest ranking page is the support page, the one that should
> have helped the user in the first place.   The user would scroll
> through that entire list, and then find the contact link at the bottom
> of the page, read that and ignore all the support options described
> before they send an email to the dev list.
> 
> We might want to revisit the support page to see if that can be clarified.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 

My advice: This is nice, looks great, but be prepared to revisit the page and 
renew the language.

Louis


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Re: [Request for review] - Solution for 122927 - =IF(AK3=" ";0;IF(AK3="Y";195;IF(AK3="N";125))) produces FALSE instead of $0.00

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 08.09.2013 20:45, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Clarence,

an additional remark: You should not use rFormatter before you are sure
it exists. Keep "if (&rFormatter==NULL)" at the beginning.



I think testing '&rFormatter' on 'NULL' is non-sense as the pointer to a 
reference can never be NULL as far as I know. Please correct me, if I am 
wrong.


I assume that the existence of this check is an overseen from a former 
refactoring which had changed pointer parameter "SvNumberFormatter* 
pFormatter" into reference parameter "SvNumberFormatter& rFormatter".


Best regards, Oliver.


Kind regards
Regina

Clarence GUO schrieb:

Hi~
I'm working on https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122927
I delivered patch to the issue, please help to review.

Root Cause:
In 121126, although in description it only mentioned format code issue,
actually the fix is not only for format code but also for output
string for
logic formula cell. The second one introduced this issue.
I think the change for output string change for logic formulas is
reasonable because before 12666, from 12666's sample file, a cell with
formula "=2>1" will return 1.0. It is very strange. It should return
"TRUE"
like that in MS Excel.
So my fix will based on 12666. The root cause is for logic formula cells,
fix code of 12666 forcibly set output string to true or false. But
many AOO
users had manner already that set number format to logic formula cells.
That's different with Excel. In Excel, no matter what number format
you set
to logic formula cells, the output strings are always true and false.
In the sample of this issue, users set number format to currency, because
of the forcibly setting, the string changed.

Solution
My solution is to add checking for logic formula cells, if their output
number formats are certain category like number, currency, date, time,
etc,
we will not change the output string. but if no certain format categories
were applied, for logic formula cells, will change output string to true
and false.




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Re: How to enable UNO services through Script on other platforms except Windows?

[Rony G. Flatscher]

On 9/9/2013 2:38 PM, Kejia Ye wrote:
> I'm using LotusScript, a script language used in Lotus Notes, also
> described as "BASIC-like". It is useful to access and export the back-end
> data. And I'm thinking to use it to export the data and generate
> spreadsheet reports from AOO directly.
>
> Is there some
>  similar samples or experience to do things like that? Maybe something like
> VB scripts?
In addition to the scripting languages Jürgen pointed out you may also use the 
scripting languages
that come also with AOO like JavaScript and BeanShell.

If you are in the "Lotus corner" you might be acquainted with the Rexx (IBM's 
original SAA scripting
language) and/or the opensource Open Object Rexx (http://www.ooRexx.org) 
scripting language. The
Windows implementation of ooRexx supports COM/OLE/ActiveX and allows you to 
access e.g. Lotus Notes
via the COM interfaces (transcribing the Lotus script code).

You can get at a cross-platform solution to interface with Lotus Notes and with 
AOO from ooRexx by
adding the BSF4ooRexx package (https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsf4oorexx/), 
which allows one to
exploit any Java bridges (to Notes or to AOO) with the syntax and ease of the 
ooRexx scripting
languages. The camouflaging support of BSF4ooRexx turns Java conceptually into 
the interpreted,
dynamically typed and case-independent ooRexx

---rony


> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi Ke Jia,
>>
>> On 9/9/13 9:09 AM, Kejia Ye wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to connect to AOO and calling some UNO services by a script. I
>>> found a solution about
>>> Automation_Bridge<
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ProUNO/Bridge/Automation_Bridge
>>> and
>>> it works for me, but it can only be used on Windows, due to the COM
>>> implementation dependency.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know is there any method that I can run a script to control
>>> AOO remotely on other platforms, like Linux or Mac?
>> Sure you can use Python to automate tasks or you can use Java. It really
>> depends on what you have in mind to do.
>>
>> Maybe you can explain what you have in mind
>>
>> Juergen


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Re: [Request for review] - Solution for 122927 - =IF(AK3=" ";0;IF(AK3="Y";195;IF(AK3="N";125))) produces FALSE instead of $0.00

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

sorry for top-posting.

I propose to have further discussion of this issue in Bugzilla.
Then we have only one place to look where the information/data/... about 
this issue can be found.


Best regards, Oliver.

On 09.09.2013 15:10, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Clarence,

Clarence GUO schrieb:

Regina,
Sorry for my pen mistake, all statement of 12666 in my previous comment
should be 121126. I also corrected it in the issue.
About formula "=2>1", it is from the sample XLS in 121126. Once I rolled
back fix code of 121126, I found it returned 1.0.
I tested formula with "=2>1" which applied currency number format, it
works.
Thanks for you reminder, I will add checking "if (&rFormatter==NULL)"


My build is finished now. It still shows the error, that TRUE and FALSE
cannot be formatted to show currency. The format dialog and the sidebar
property say, that the cell format is "Currency", but the cell itself
shows TRUE and FALSE.

I have build the version r1520602 with your patch applied. I have used
MSVC 2008 express.

Kind regards
Regina






2013/9/9 Regina Henschel 


Hi Clarence,

I do not understand some part of the description. Questions inline.

Clarence GUO schrieb:

  Hi~

I'm working on
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122927

I delivered patch to the issue, please help to review.

Root Cause:
In 121126, although in description it only mentioned format code issue,
actually the fix is not only for format code but also for output string
for
logic formula cell. The second one introduced this issue.
I think the change for output string change for logic formulas is
reasonable because before 12666



12666 ?


, from 12666's sample file, a cell with


formula "=2>1" will return 1.0.It is very strange. It should return
"TRUE"

like that in MS Excel.



In all my OOo versions (from 1.1.5 over 2.4.3 to 3.41 and AOO4.0) =2>1
returns TRUE. In which version do you see result 1.0 ?


  So my fix will based on 12666. The root cause is for logic formula
cells,

fix code of 12666 forcibly set output string to true or false. But many
AOO
users had manner already that set number format to logic formula cells.
That's different with Excel. In Excel, no matter what number format you
set
to logic formula cells, the output strings are always true and false.
In the sample of this issue, users set number format to currency,
because
of the forcibly setting, the string changed.

Solution
My solution is to add checking for logic formula cells, if their output
number formats are certain category like number, currency, date, time,
etc,
we will not change the output string. but if no certain format
categories
were applied, for logic formula cells, will change output string to
true
and false.



I have applied your patch and build the source. The resulting AOO still
shows the error, that FALSE and TRUE cannot be formatted to currency.
The
formatting to other number formats works. The error happens with IF
with 1
or 2 parameters and with simple comparisons as well.

But it was not a clean build. I will try it with a clean build, but that
needs half a day on my PC.

Your patch comes with DOS line ends to me. That might be a problem
with my
browser. But it would be nice, if you verify, that your patch has
UNIX line
ends.

Kind regards
Regina






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Re: How to enable UNO services through Script on other platforms except Windows?

[Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)]

On 9/9/2013 2:38 PM, Kejia Ye wrote:
> I'm using LotusScript, a script language used in Lotus Notes, also
> described as "BASIC-like". It is useful to access and export the back-end
> data. And I'm thinking to use it to export the data and generate
> spreadsheet reports from AOO directly.
>
> Is there some
>  similar samples or experience to do things like that? Maybe something like
> VB scripts?
In addition to the scripting languages Jürgen pointed out you may also use the 
scripting languages
that come also with AOO like JavaScript and BeanShell.

If you are in the "Lotus corner" you might be acquainted with the Rexx (IBM's 
original SAA scripting
language) and/or the opensource Open Object Rexx (http://www.ooRexx.org) 
scripting language. The
Windows implementation of ooRexx supports COM/OLE/ActiveX and allows you to 
access e.g. Lotus Notes
via the COM interfaces (transcribing the Lotus script code).

You can get at a cross-platform solution to interface with Lotus Notes and with 
AOO from ooRexx by
adding the BSF4ooRexx package (https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsf4oorexx/), 
which allows one to
exploit any Java bridges (to Notes or to AOO) with the syntax and ease of the 
ooRexx scripting
languages. The camouflaging support of BSF4ooRexx turns Java conceptually into 
the interpreted,
dynamically typed and case-independent ooRexx

---rony


> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi Ke Jia,
>>
>> On 9/9/13 9:09 AM, Kejia Ye wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to connect to AOO and calling some UNO services by a script. I
>>> found a solution about
>>> Automation_Bridge<
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ProUNO/Bridge/Automation_Bridge
>>> and
>>> it works for me, but it can only be used on Windows, due to the COM
>>> implementation dependency.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know is there any method that I can run a script to control
>>> AOO remotely on other platforms, like Linux or Mac?
>> Sure you can use Python to automate tasks or you can use Java. It really
>> depends on what you have in mind to do.
>>
>> Maybe you can explain what you have in mind
>>
>> Juergen


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Re: bug 107063 (needs update)

[bugreporter99]

>> I marked the duplicate issues you suggested. Please log in and 
>update the
>> version on your own if you would. If there is some problem you 
>can't do
>> this, please let us know.

thanks

>For re-confirming issues such as 107063 we have the field "latest 
>confirmation on". The version field itself should record when a 
>bug 
>first appeared.

Ok I see the "Latest Confirmation on:" field but I'm too stupid to change it 
(no thing such a drop-down box).

>Also we there is no release of AOO 4.0.1 yet, there are only 
>snapshots 
>on the way to 4.0.1 that use "4.0.1" in various strings for 
>technical 
>reasons. So recording a bug against a pre-release should only be 
>against 
>e.g. AOO401-dev but not against the target version.

yes it was a snapshot

thx


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Re: contact_us.html: new clues

[sebb]

On 9 September 2013 13:12, Rob Weir  wrote:
> When we get a misdirected email sent to the dev list with a subject
> reporting a website error, it is coming from a user who is reading
> http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html.
>
> We've been doing some fine tuning of the language on that page to try
> to make it more clear to the user that they should use the forum or
> the user list for product questions.   But it is not clear this is
> working.
>
> So I took a look at the data from the last 30 days, via Google
> Analytics.  Some interesting and unexpected findings.
>
> First, what was the page the user was visiting before they went to the
> contact page?
>
> 28% of the time they were on /support/index.html page
> 26% of the time they were on /index.html
> 14% of the time they were on /download/index.html
> 4% of the time they were on /product/index.html
>
> So the highest ranking page is the support page, the one that should
> have helped the user in the first place.   The user would scroll
> through that entire list, and then find the contact link at the bottom
> of the page, read that and ignore all the support options described
> before they send an email to the dev list.
>
> We might want to revisit the support page to see if that can be clarified.

I've noticed that a lot of pages (including support/index.html) have a
TOC at the start.
However the TOC is usually just a terse list of links, for example:

Product documentation
Community support
Professional services
Books about OpenOffice.
Other Online resources

This takes up quite a lot of vertical space, without being
particularly informative.
And the Prod doc link actually leads to a section called "OpenOffice
Documentation".
[The anchor used here is #rtfm which is a bit of an insult, given that
the user must already be RTFM to be looking at the page!]

At the very least it might help to have some descriptive text after
each link, for example

Product documentation - FAQs, User Guides, How-To's, Tutorials,
Installation, etc.
Community support - etc.
Professional services - etc
Books about OpenOffice - On our Books page you will find a listing of
the many books written about OpenOffice topics, for general and
specialized use.
Other Online resources - etc

In the case of Professional Services and Books, there is almost no
useful content on the page, so the links might as well go direct to
the relevant pages.

Something else that might help is an introduction which provides an
overview of the various types of [self-]help available. Even with
additional descriptions the list of links is not particularly
welcoming.

I think one big issue is that specific product documentation is
actually quite difficult to find from the support page.
The Product Doc link takes one to the Wiki documentation project,
where the main focus is the documentation project, not the generated
documentation.
If I have a problem with Calc 4.0.0 for example, how do I use the
Support page to find the docs/faqs/tutorials for it?
If it were made easier to find documentation on specific products, it
might reduce FAQs being posted on the mailing lists.
Maybe consider a page for each product with links to the different
documentation types.

Another possibilility that might be worth considering is to have a
short intro on the contact page, mentioning the various forms of
self-help and documentation available from the support page.

[BTW, the support index page still has a reference to OpenOffice.org]

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Fw: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Mel Goddard]

Before I do download it, perhaps you can tell me WHY I would need 
"OpenOffice"  to open my files for me.
That's akin to me telling you that you cannot drive your car unless I turn 
the key to start it for you.
I have now wasted almost a full day to try to solve a problem that prevents 
me from doing a 30 second job.


Mel

-Original Message- 
From: Mel Goddard

Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Max Merbald
Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

Max;

The problem is, that I'm trying to open an existing document to add to it.
Your program is preventing me from doing it.
I've never had any problem before, until a couple of days ago.
So since I've never even 'heard'  of you before; I did uninstall it, and
then 'somebody' else is trying to get in here.
All I want to do is to access an existing document! That's all.

My computer 'guru' tells me that you're legit, so I'm going to reinstall
your program and see: "What the Hell".

I'll let you know of the follow up.
Mel
-Original Message- 
From: Max Merbald

Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:38 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Mel Goddard
Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

Hello Mel,

unfortunately you didn't tell us what was your actual problem with Open
Office, and that makes it rather difficult to help you. If you do not
wish to have OpenOffice on your computer just uninstall it. I don't
believe that yelling would help you.

Max


Am 09.09.2013 03:30, schrieb Mel Goddard:

GET OUT OF MY COMPUTER!
I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED YOU, AND YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH MY 
WORK ON THIS THING!

GET OUT NOW!
mdgoddard3...@i-zoom.net

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Re: Fw: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:47:47 -0400
"Mel Goddard"  wrote:

> Before I do download it, perhaps you can tell me WHY I would need 
> "OpenOffice"  to open my files for me.
> That's akin to me telling you that you cannot drive your car unless I turn 
> the key to start it for you.
> I have now wasted almost a full day to try to solve a problem that prevents 
> me from doing a 30 second job.
> 
> Mel
> 
> -Original Message- 
> >From: Mel Goddard
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:00 AM
> To: Max Merbald
> Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
> 
> Max;
> 
> The problem is, that I'm trying to open an existing document to add to it.
> Your program is preventing me from doing it.
> I've never had any problem before, until a couple of days ago.
> So since I've never even 'heard'  of you before; I did uninstall it, and
> then 'somebody' else is trying to get in here.
> All I want to do is to access an existing document! That's all.
> 
> My computer 'guru' tells me that you're legit, so I'm going to reinstall
> your program and see: "What the Hell".
> 
> I'll let you know of the follow up.
> Mel
> -Original Message- 
> >From: Max Merbald
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:38 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: Mel Goddard
> Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
> 
> Hello Mel,
> 
> unfortunately you didn't tell us what was your actual problem with Open
> Office, and that makes it rather difficult to help you. If you do not
> wish to have OpenOffice on your computer just uninstall it. I don't
> believe that yelling would help you.
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> Am 09.09.2013 03:30, schrieb Mel Goddard:
> > GET OUT OF MY COMPUTER!
> > I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED YOU, AND YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH MY 
> > WORK ON THIS THING!
> > GET OUT NOW!
> > mdgoddard3...@i-zoom.net
> >
> > -

It is possible that you have inadvertently downloaded a "rogue" print of 
OpenOffice, which prints often come with attached malware.

Do not download from any site but www.openoffice.org/download (automatic 
redirection to Sourceforge)



-- 
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Re: University Student Promotional Flyer ( was: Re: Yet another flyer)

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

No the problem was I forgot my password and reset it, then I couldn't get
past the cpatcha - today, I'm in...so it likely was fat fingers on my part.

As for where to put this stuff. I don't know, it doesn't do much good if
folks A) don't know it exists and B) don't actually hand them out.

I was thinking that as an example the university student flyer might be
worth a post to the social media sites something along the lines of:
Are you a university student? Do you use AOO? Would like to promote it? It
is as easy as taking this <> pdf file, printing a few copies and
distributing them on your campus, (school library, student union, etc).


That would be good for a one time push, then it's just a matter of having
this stuff reasonably easy to find for folks coming along later - but then
there lay the trick ;)

//drew


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 04/09/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>
>> focus on an Individual university student / teaching aid / professor ...
>>
>>   PDF
>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0INm5IZzQwQXRodGM
>> ODT
>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmJ3QzVDNjQyaHc
>>
>
> It's a very nice improvement over the existing leaflet. And a good idea to
> have a few different types of leaflet (all as PDF and ODT) ready to use for
> different targets.
>
>
>  I tried to put this on confluence BTW, but am having problems logging on
>>
>
> What kind of problems? If you used your old @openoffice.org account for
> the cwiki, you must ask infrastruct...@apache.org to change your e-mail
> address. Symptom: if you login, you cannot access content (not even read
> the pages available to unauthenticated visitors, let alone edit them).
>
>
>  So - If someone wants to move it to the cwiki, please do
>>
>
> Can you suggest a specific page that your leaflets should be attached to?
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Rory O'Farrell]

A version of what is claimed to be OpenOffice for Android is now available at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice

I've downloaded this and installed it on a 7" Nexus 7 tablet. I think a 7" 
tablet may be too small for serious work with it; when I go away to 
London/Wales in two weeks time I'll still be bringing a small laptop.

However, I thought you'd all like to know that something was available.

-- 
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Re: AOO Flyer_SME (was : Yet another flyer)

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy all,

Well, a little more work and some feedback led to this - which I now really
need feedback from you guys on.

A couple of small changes - I noted the discussion on the mailing list
regarding the users posting to the dev mailing list, so I updated the
paragraph on the back cover to remove the reference to the dev list (I have
not updated the UnivStudent flyer to reflect this yet, but will)

Some small typographic changes on the front cover and rear cover, dropped
the wire frame from the front page (inside flap), left it on the second
page - though I have two votes to dump it from there also.

Anyway - the real focus, if I may draw you there, is again the why AOO
column. The bullet items are the points that I would like to make, but they
could I'm sure be made better.

The lower section AOO is ODF compliant and AOO is a community I'm not
really comfortable with. I lifted some of the text from that 2.0 flyer, the
sentence with company names and I suppose for instance PeopleSoft no longer
gets a break out, it's just Oracle now, right.. anyhow you input is very.

So - I guess I'll just use google still:
pdf
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IU2ZJbHVsQ2pOa3M
odt
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IWERCRVozbFBkYVk

Thanks in advance for you time,

//drew


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Drew Jensen wrote:

>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
>
>> Juergen
>
>
> I started on an SME (which I suppose is Small /Medium Enterprise) piece,
> it's not that far along with respect to the Why column - but I did make a
> change to the graphical content, based on Juergen's comment regarding
> icons. So I'll put this up to google also, it's a throw back again to 2.0
> branding, with the new color.
>
> pdf
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IWFpNd3dSOTBCN3c
> odt
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IZklSaHFSTk84Umc
> and the updated svg for the wireframe
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IMzU0bnotSHFVMzA
>
> Anyway - SME is too broad for my purpose here and I will work tonight to
> focus a bit more on:
> Clerical staff and part-time elected officials in very small
> municipalities, which is the demographic of the room where my friend will
> be pitching his services..
>
> As always - I don't own this stuff, feel free to make it better...
>
> //drew
>

Re: [Request for review] - Solution for 122927 - =IF(AK3=" ";0;IF(AK3="Y";195;IF(AK3="N";125))) produces FALSE instead of $0.00

[Regina Henschel]

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:

Hi,

On 08.09.2013 20:45, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Clarence,

an additional remark: You should not use rFormatter before you are sure
it exists. Keep "if (&rFormatter==NULL)" at the beginning.



I think testing '&rFormatter' on 'NULL' is non-sense as the pointer to a
reference can never be NULL as far as I know. Please correct me, if I am
wrong.


Yes, you are right. (&rFormatter==NULL) is strange.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[David Gerard]

On 9 September 2013 17:44, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> AS you mentioned about the source, we will get stuck in middle of
> something that belongs to the "trademark".



Which trademark are you talking about? The only mention of an
Apache-owned trademark appears to be "AndrOpen Office is forked
project from the Apache OpenOffice project. AndrOpen Office is not
affiliated with the Apache OpenOffice project.", which is surely
nominative use.


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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

[Steele, Raymond]

Herbert,



Thanks for the information. I attached the new mathconf.h file with your patch. 
I then did a clean build and it compiles without error.I am not sure about 
what you'd like me to provide when you say , " Of course it would also 
interesting to know what type ::std::numeric_limits::digits on 
that platform." Could you provide more details? Thanks.



Also,



I've found a couple other things that you may be interested in.



1. The generated bootstrap script will not execute after configure because of 
like 64. I've had to change it like this:

 -  dmake_full_package_name=$(find $TARFILE_LOCATION -type f 
-name "*-$dmake_package_name")

 +  dmake_full_package_name=`find $TARFILE_LOCATION -type f 
-name "*-$dmake_package_name"`





2.  I keep receiving the following each time I do a clean build:

=
Building module basebmp
=

Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/basebmp/source

Compiling: basebmp/source/bitmapdevice.cxx
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/vigra/mathutil.hxx", line 801: 
Error: erf is not a member of _STL.
1 Error(s) detected.
dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxsoli4.pro/slo/bitmapdevice.obj'

1 module(s):
basebmp
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/basebmp/source

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by 
running:

build --all:basebmp





I can resolve this by changing  
/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/vigra/mathutil.hxx to the 
following on line 801:



 - using VIGRA_CSTD::erf;

 + using ::erf;



This file is generated by the build. As of now, I have not determined what is 
generating it.





-Original Message-
From: Herbert Duerr [mailto:h...@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:58 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Steele, Raymond
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper



On 07.09.2013 00:17, Steele, Raymond wrote:

> To address the isfinite() issue I added the following to rtl/math.hxx:

>

> #ifdef SOLARIS

> #undef SAL_MATH_FINITE

> #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)

> #endf

>

> Your links were very helpful. Thanks so much.



Wonderful, so this problem is mostly solved. We just need to get it cleanly 
into the mathconf.h. How about this patch?



--- main/sal/inc/sal/mathconf.h

+++ main/sal/inc/sal/mathconf.h

@@ -55,7 +55,9 @@ extern "C" {





  /* SAL_MATH_FINITE(d): test double d on INFINITY, NaN et al. */ -#if 
defined(__GNUC__) // workaround gcc bug 14608

+#if defined(OS2) || defined(SOLARIS)

+ #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)

+#elif defined(__GNUC__) // workaround gcc bug 14608

#if (__GNUC_MINOR__ >= 3) // gcc>=4.3 has a builtin

#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) __builtin_isfinite(d)

#else

@@ -67,8 +69,6 @@ extern "C" {

#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) isfinite(d)

  #elif defined( WNT)

  #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) _finite(d)

-#elif defined OS2

-#define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)

  #elif defined LINUX || defined UNX

  #define SAL_MATH_FINITE(d) finite(d)

  #else /* WNT, LINUX, UNX */



> Now onto:

>

> integer_fwd.cpp contains the following on line 136 and 137:

>

> 136: template < > 137: struct low_bits_mask_t<

> ::std::numeric_limits char>::digits>;



I'm not sure whether you saw my mail from September 2nd

(http://markmail.org/message/bt7bazzvb6zionee):



https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STDCXX-937 might have to do with this. It 
mentions a compiler bug 6703971 but that doesn't seem to be available any more. 
I suggest to update the compiler to its latest patch level.



Of course it would also interesting to know what type 
::std::numeric_limits::digits on that platform. The error 
message looks as if this was not an integer but a class. The C++ spec requires 
that the type should be an int. Please check the  include file.



Herbert
/**
 * 
 * Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
 * or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
 * distributed with this work for additional information
 * regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
 * to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
 * "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
 * with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
 * 
 *   http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
 * 
 * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
 * software distributed under the License is distributed on an
 * "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
 * KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
 * specific language governing permissions and limitations
 * under the License.
 * 
 */



#if !defined INCLUDED_SAL_MATHCONF_H
#def

Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Mr. Phan Anh]

I meant the "future cooperation" between this guy (the author) and the
Dev Group of AOO in an officially way.
This would be a huge milestone in our development process.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:46 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
> On 9 September 2013 17:44, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
>> AS you mentioned about the source, we will get stuck in middle of
>> something that belongs to the "trademark".
>
>
>
> Which trademark are you talking about? The only mention of an
> Apache-owned trademark appears to be "AndrOpen Office is forked
> project from the Apache OpenOffice project. AndrOpen Office is not
> affiliated with the Apache OpenOffice project.", which is surely
> nominative use.
>
>
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Crash report files under Windows Vista

[Drew Jensen]

Well, I guess I am just blind - had a few crashes over the weekend for the
life of me I can't find an crash logs (looked in pretty much every place I
could think to look).
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
//drew

Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Mr. Phan Anh]

Wow, this guy derserved a medal.
Can any developers talk to him?
I think this is awesome, and thank Rory for telling about this.

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Re: Another test of the download page on Browsershots.com

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 09/06/2013 03:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 09/05/2013 10:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
 On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Marcus (OOo)
 wrote:
>
>
> Am 09/05/2013 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 09/04/2013 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
 http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/

 I'm not sure anyone else can read that.  It might be tied to a
 cookie.
  But I ran a test to render the download page on 135 browser/os
 combinations.  It returns a PNG screenshot for each rendering.  I
 looked for which combinations did not render the green download box.

 There were 5 failures.  Two I don't think we care about:

 Dillo 3.0.2 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)

 and

 Kazehakase 0.5.8 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)

 And 3 that we should care about:

 MSIE 5.5 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)

 MSIE 6.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)

 MSIE 7.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't agree here. Why do we have to support stone-old browsers?
>>> Because
>>> they are available on a browser testing website? Come on. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> I'm concerned with the error, since it it impacts the more modern IE 6
>> and
>> 7.
>>
>> Looking at visits to our website over the past month I see this many
>> users:
>>
>> IE 10 -- 857,499
>> IE 9 -- 250,591
>> IE 8 -- 420,215
>> IE 7 -- 69,914
>> IE 6 -- 27,172
>> IE 5.5 -- 69
>>
>> So we're still getting nearly 100K visits/month from these older IE
>> versions.
>
>
>
>
> The 69 are not really impressive. But 27,000+ for MSIE 6 is surprising.
>
>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_5
>>>
>>> It's old, MS is no longer supporting it, so IMHO it's done. Nearly
>>> the
>>> same
>>> for 6.0.
>>>
>>
>> Right.  But here is a common scenario.  You need to reinstall Windows
>> on a machine.  Say it is XP or Vista.  Both are supported today, but
>> both have older browsers by default.  Of course, the first thing you
>> do on a new machine is run the Windows Updates.  But in parallel with
>> that you are downloading other software you need, Acrobat Reader, anti
>> virus, 7-Zip, Notepad++, etc.,  and Apache OpenOffice.   So you might
>> end up with IE 8 in the end, after all the patches are applied.  But
>> you start your work with an earlier version,
>
>
>
>
> I would expect that these people first get the basics up-to-date, then
> other
> applications.
>
>
 The IE versions all give the same script error:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, if all browsers show the same error then a fix could get
>>> back
>>> all 3
>>> into life at the same time.
>>>
>>
>> That makes sense.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, let's concentrate on the error.
>
>
 Line 330, Char 1, Code 0, Expected identifier, string or number

 This is an odd place for an error, since that appears to be in the
 middle of the commented out block for beta releases.

 Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, if you search in the "index.html" which indeed doesn't make
>>> sense.
>>>
>>> When looking into "download.js" then you are in the middle of the
>>> "getFilesize()" function. But I've no idea what the problematic point
>>> could
>>> be there.
>>>
>>
>> I wonder if it could be
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js?  Could it be a
>> coincidence that that file is exactly 329 lines long and the error is
>> claimed to be in line 330?  Maybe that unnecessary comma at the end of
>> line 328 is the issue?
>
>
>
>
> Hm, and what about "languages.js"? It has also a semicolon at the end
> but
> the file has only 108 lines. In the "index.html" it will be imported
> before
> the "release_matrix.js" (I don't know if this really the case) but
> there
> is
> no hint for error.
>
> Anyway, let's try. In the test area:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
>
> I've committed the deletion of the characters in both files. I think we
> need
> to wait another 24h until we are allowed to use Browsershots.org again,
> right? - At least this is my experience.
>

 I don't know if that restrictio

Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[James Michael DuPont]

and where are the sources or does he not have to publish any?


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:

> Wow, this guy derserved a medal.
> Can any developers talk to him?
> I think this is awesome, and thank Rory for telling about this.
>
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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[BRM]

I've played with it some. It's pretty good. Unstable at times, but the 
developer does release fixes pretty often.
I run it on my ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700). It is also the only 
productivity suite that supports ODF without requiring a third-party server 
available on Android.

$0.02

Ben




 From: Andrea Pescetti 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android
 

Mr. Phan Anh wrote:
> But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
> devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
> the development team should make contact with him about this.

This Android app was already discussed on this list, months ago. 
Trademark issues were amicably resolved with the developer back at the time.

If you use this app for a while and find it good, we can list it in the 
third-party ports at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

Regards,
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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Andrea Pescetti]

Mr. Phan Anh wrote:

But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
the development team should make contact with him about this.


This Android app was already discussed on this list, months ago. 
Trademark issues were amicably resolved with the developer back at the time.


If you use this app for a while and find it good, we can list it in the 
third-party ports at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Mr. Phan Anh]

I have just got the news, and now, I am playing around with this one
on my phone and tablet.
Thanks Andrea for replying me.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> Mr. Phan Anh wrote:
>>
>> But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
>> devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
>> the development team should make contact with him about this.
>
>
> This Android app was already discussed on this list, months ago. Trademark
> issues were amicably resolved with the developer back at the time.
>
> If you use this app for a while and find it good, we can list it in the
> third-party ports at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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Re: Another test of the download page on Browsershots.com

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 09/09/2013 07:50 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 09/06/2013 03:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)
 wrote:
>
>
> Am 09/05/2013 10:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Marcus (OOo)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 09/05/2013 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
 On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Am 09/04/2013 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>
>> I'm not sure anyone else can read that.  It might be tied to a
>> cookie.
>>   But I ran a test to render the download page on 135
>> browser/os
>> combinations.  It returns a PNG screenshot for each rendering.  I
>> looked for which combinations did not render the green download
>> box.
>>
>> There were 5 failures.  Two I don't think we care about:
>>
>> Dillo 3.0.2 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>
>> and
>>
>> Kazehakase 0.5.8 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>
>> And 3 that we should care about:
>>
>> MSIE 5.5 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>
>> MSIE 6.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>
>> MSIE 7.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't agree here. Why do we have to support stone-old browsers?
> Because
> they are available on a browser testing website? Come on. ;-)
>

 I'm concerned with the error, since it it impacts the more modern IE
 6
 and
 7.

 Looking at visits to our website over the past month I see this many
 users:

 IE 10 -- 857,499
 IE 9 -- 250,591
 IE 8 -- 420,215
 IE 7 -- 69,914
 IE 6 -- 27,172
 IE 5.5 -- 69

 So we're still getting nearly 100K visits/month from these older IE
 versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 69 are not really impressive. But 27,000+ for MSIE 6 is
>>> surprising.
>>>
>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_5
>
> It's old, MS is no longer supporting it, so IMHO it's done. Nearly
> the
> same
> for 6.0.
>

 Right.  But here is a common scenario.  You need to reinstall
 Windows
 on a machine.  Say it is XP or Vista.  Both are supported today, but
 both have older browsers by default.  Of course, the first thing you
 do on a new machine is run the Windows Updates.  But in parallel
 with
 that you are downloading other software you need, Acrobat Reader,
 anti
 virus, 7-Zip, Notepad++, etc.,  and Apache OpenOffice.   So you
 might
 end up with IE 8 in the end, after all the patches are applied.  But
 you start your work with an earlier version,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would expect that these people first get the basics up-to-date,
>>> then
>>> other
>>> applications.
>>>
>>>
>> The IE versions all give the same script error:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> However, if all browsers show the same error then a fix could get
> back
> all 3
> into life at the same time.
>

 That makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, let's concentrate on the error.
>>>
>>>
>> Line 330, Char 1, Code 0, Expected identifier, string or number
>>
>> This is an odd place for an error, since that appears to be in the
>> middle of the commented out block for beta releases.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, if you search in the "index.html" which indeed doesn't make
> sense.
>
> When looking into "download.js" then you are in the middle of the
> "getFilesize()" function. But I've no idea what the problematic
> point
> could
> be there.
>

 I wonder if it could be
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js?  Could it be a
 coincidence that that file is exactly 329 lines long and the error
 is
 claimed to be in line 330?  Maybe that unnecessary comma at the end
 of
 line 328 is the issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hm, and what about "languages.js"? It has also a semicolon at the end
>>> but
>>> the file has only 108 lines. In the "index.

Incorrect link on cwiki

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy

Just over at the cwiki (community) wiki and clicking on the "Help Wanted"
page, this URL https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/help-wanted.html gives me
a 404 error - Just to let you know.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Daniel Shahaf]

Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 09:29:35 +0200:
> But I'm really thinking of just an alias that forwards mail, not a  
> public or private mailing list. For example, how does  
> aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org work? Maybe that one is a model we could  
> follow.

That one is just an autoreply script.

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Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 03/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:

That's a good idea. Here is a first very rough draft:
https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=writing_spreadsheet_test_cases_now


That link is behind an editor password. Here's the public preview link:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=writing_spreadsheet_test_cases_now

And the post is nice too! I would just add something about how people 
can help. I assume the best way is to contact the QA list and say that 
they could contribute testcases.


Since testcases must be attached anyway, one way to get them could be to 
open a specific issue in Bugzilla and attach testcases to is as they 
become available.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: svn commit: r1521243 - in /openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/xx/product: calc.mdtext draw.mdtext impress.mdtext math.mdtext writer.mdtext

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM,   wrote:
> Author: robweir
> Date: Mon Sep  9 19:00:23 2013
> New Revision: 1521243
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1521243
> Log:
> Pull images from /product rather than from /xx/product

The idea of having the product images in /${lang}/product is to
provide a localized version of the application screen-shots, something
logical and understandable if you are translating the site (note that
the image for the icons are not supposed to be localized, so they are
taken from /product).

The original application screen-shots should be first updated (they
are too old), and provide the documents for the localized version.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Admin mailing list

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 09/09/2013 09:29 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

janI wrote:

On Sep 9, 2013 6:17 AM, "Daniel Shahaf" wrote:

I don't know what topics you guys are looking for a place
to discuss, so I can't say whether a private list or a public list would
better meet your needs.

I have nothing against such a list, but it was not needed while I
coordinated vm-team. I prefer direct mail for that purpose.


I would find it handy to have an alias. Indeed, it makes it easier to
have incident reports more visible than now (in the dev list traffic).

An alias is also nice to have for internal discussions within the team,
since already with 4-5 team members it's just easier to use an alias.


+1, as a single point of contact it's the optimal way to reach the admins.

Marcus




But I'm really thinking of just an alias that forwards mail, not a
public or private mailing list. For example, how does
aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org work? Maybe that one is a model we could
follow.


such a request should come from the admins, if wanted.


Makes sense. We may want to get the proposal about structuring admins
approved before preparing specific tools.

Regards,
Andrea.


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Re: Another test of the download page on Browsershots.com

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 09/09/2013 07:50 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Am 09/06/2013 03:18 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Marcus (OOo)   wrote:


Am 09/05/2013 10:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:



Am 09/05/2013 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:




Am 09/04/2013 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/

I'm not sure anyone else can read that.  It might be tied to a
cookie.
  But I ran a test to render the download page on 135 browser/os
combinations.  It returns a PNG screenshot for each rendering.  I
looked for which combinations did not render the green download box.

There were 5 failures.  Two I don't think we care about:

Dillo 3.0.2 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)

and

Kazehakase 0.5.8 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)

And 3 that we should care about:

MSIE 5.5 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)

MSIE 6.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)

MSIE 7.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)






I don't agree here. Why do we have to support stone-old browsers?
Because
they are available on a browser testing website? Come on. ;-)



I'm concerned with the error, since it it impacts the more modern IE 6
and
7.

Looking at visits to our website over the past month I see this many
users:

IE 10 -- 857,499
IE 9 -- 250,591
IE 8 -- 420,215
IE 7 -- 69,914
IE 6 -- 27,172
IE 5.5 -- 69

So we're still getting nearly 100K visits/month from these older IE
versions.





The 69 are not really impressive. But 27,000+ for MSIE 6 is surprising.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_5

It's old, MS is no longer supporting it, so IMHO it's done. Nearly
the
same
for 6.0.



Right.  But here is a common scenario.  You need to reinstall Windows
on a machine.  Say it is XP or Vista.  Both are supported today, but
both have older browsers by default.  Of course, the first thing you
do on a new machine is run the Windows Updates.  But in parallel with
that you are downloading other software you need, Acrobat Reader, anti
virus, 7-Zip, Notepad++, etc.,  and Apache OpenOffice.   So you might
end up with IE 8 in the end, after all the patches are applied.  But
you start your work with an earlier version,





I would expect that these people first get the basics up-to-date, then
other
applications.



The IE versions all give the same script error:






However, if all browsers show the same error then a fix could get
back
all 3
into life at the same time.



That makes sense.





Yes, let's concentrate on the error.



Line 330, Char 1, Code 0, Expected identifier, string or number

This is an odd place for an error, since that appears to be in the
middle of the commented out block for beta releases.

Any ideas?






Yes, if you search in the "index.html" which indeed doesn't make
sense.

When looking into "download.js" then you are in the middle of the
"getFilesize()" function. But I've no idea what the problematic point
could
be there.



I wonder if it could be
http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js?  Could it be a
coincidence that that file is exactly 329 lines long and the error is
claimed to be in line 330?  Maybe that unnecessary comma at the end of
line 328 is the issue?





Hm, and what about "languages.js"? It has also a semicolon at the end
but
the file has only 108 lines. In the "index.html" it will be imported
before
the "release_matrix.js" (I don't know if this really the case) but
there
is
no hint for error.

Anyway, let's try. In the test area:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html

I've committed the deletion of the characters in both files. I think we
need
to wait another 24h until we are allowed to use Browsershots.org again,
right? - At least this is my experience.



I don't know if that restriction is per client IP address or per host,




It's about the tested website that triggers the limit. It doesn't matter
who
or which IP is requesting the test.



but we're blocked either way, because of robots.txt on staging:




OK yes, the staging area.



http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/robots.txt

But if it is OK to publish those changes we should be able to run
another test now.




Hm, I decided to publish the changes already yesterday. To bad that I've
not
changed the links from staged to live, sorry. ;-(

Please try again with the real webpages.



Same errors.

I think it is the trailing comma on the last entry in the array.  I
changed in it download/test/release_matrix.js and will test it again
tomorrow.



Ah, good catch. I've published the website, so you can test with the real
webpage.

I cross my fingers.



The latest versions works OK on the older I.E.'s on browsershots.org.

I also found this online tool for checking JavaScript:

http://www.javascriptlint.com/online_lint.php


Thanks for the link. Really a handy, fast and helpful tool

Re: Introduction

[Kay Schenk]

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Matt Korman wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is my first time really doing anything like this. My name is Matthew
> Korman, a southern New Jersey resident with a BA in journalism, minor in
> political science, and roughly four years experience as both a journalist
> and editor.
>
> The focus of those four years has been primarily in the entertainment
> industry (particularly music), however my most successful position was as a
> copy editor from 2009 to 2011. At this point in my career, I know my path
> must change for me to become a prominent and successful employee. I can no
> longer focus on my absolute passions - music, sports, men's lifestyle
> trends, and politics - without admitting to myself that if I haven't gotten
> a break yet, that the break probably isn't coming.
>
> This is my chance, I feel, to make a substantial change for good and move
> on to a more tangible career - hopefully as some sort of technical writer,
> considering my career up to this point has been mostly writing-focuses. I'm
> very open to suggestions about what to do moving forward, as I'm more
> willing to work than anything else right now.
>
> Thanks again for all of your time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Matthew Sean Korman
>

Hello Matthew and thanks for the introduction.

If you haven't already done so, it would be good for you to review the
Orientation modules:

http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html

Just based on the information you provided in this message, it looks like
you would be an ideal fit for the Documentation area. We welcome your
contribution.



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-
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 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
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Re: Incorrect link on cwiki

[Kay Schenk]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Drew Jensen wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Just over at the cwiki (community) wiki and clicking on the "Help Wanted"
> page, this URL https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/help-wanted.html gives me
> a 404 error - Just to let you know.
>

The correct (and working link) is:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

Please let us know where you found this incorrect one. Thanks.



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 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
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Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > The information we currently have on Decision Making can be found in our
> > Orientation section:
> >
> > http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/decision-making.html
> >
> > On that page, there are explanations for types of decision making used in
> > this project specifically and within the Apache Software Foundation. In
> my
> > opinion, this is very good "how to" guide, but somewhat limited as a
> "when
> > to" guide.
> >
>
> I drafted the orientation pages based on my understanding.   I didn't
> get many comments at the time, so I'm sure there is room for
> improvement.
>
> > Most of the source code changes done currently are preceded by a BZ
> issue.
> > This is wonderfully simple and anyone on the commits list can follow what
> > and why something has been done.  In other cases, for much larger
> changes,
> > discussions have been initiated. So, we would NOT see an action such as
> > deleting an entire module undertaken without discussion. Decision making
> > for these types of change follow a a well-known and followed process.
> >
> > Aside from code changes, there are changes to other areas of the project
> --
> > web sites, wiki, forums -- whose changes are not typically noted in BZ.
> > Sometimes there are proposals and discussions, sometimes not.  These are
> > the kinds of changes that may need additional clarification with regard
> to
> > decision making.
> >
> > In summary, what kinds of change for non-source code need  a
> > [PROPOSAL]/discussion before change?
> >
>
> For source changes and non-source changes the idea is essentially the
> same.  It is a judgement call more than a hard rule.  That's why we
> should try to vote in committers who have demonstrated good judgement
> as well as technical skills.
>
> We operate in Commit-Then-Review mode most of the time, except when
> close to a Release Candidate.  We try to avoid unnecessary discussion.
>  A timid committer who needs to review every minor change with is an
> annoyance to most of the 453 subscribers of the dev list.  So we want
> to encourage JFDI where appropriate.  But it is still a judgement
> call.
>
> But in general, I think (my personal view) a committer should put out
> a proposal in situations such as:
>
> 1) They are unsure of the technical merits of what they want to do.
> They want an extra pair of eyes to review the proposal point out
> weaknesses, alternatives, etc.
>
> 2) It is a job for more than one person or requires coordination
> across several subgroups within the project.  By putting out a formal
> proposal you can find additional volunteers and move forward in a
> coordinated way.
>
> 3)  A change to one of our websites that impacts terms and conditions,
> license, copyright, branding, etc.  So not a technical change, but a
> substantive change to content in these areas.  These require PMC
> review.
>
> 4) A technical change that breaks backwards compatibility of the product.
>
> 5) Changes that break things.  Sometimes this is unavoidable.  But it
> should be proposed and coordinated like #2 above.
>
> 6) Changes that cannot easily be reversed.  Code changes and most
> website changes are in SVN and can be reverted.  But some changes,
> like administrative bulk actions in BZ, cannot be easily undone.
>
> 7) Public statements in behalf of the project, e.g., some blog posts
> and announcements, press releases, etc.
>
> Those are examples, but the list is by no means complete.  And for
> almost any of these there may be cases where CTR or even JFDI is
> appropriate.   I'd take them more as "things to think about" when
> developing good judgement.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>

These are great guidelines! We should definitely integrate them into the
Decision Making page somehow.  Number 7 might need more elaboration.

"Developing good judgement", like so many things in life, is learned by
trial and error.  It would be great if we could at least better define what
we think "good judgement" is.



>
> >
> >
> >
> -
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >  -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
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Re: University Student Promotional Flyer ( was: Re: Yet another flyer)

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Drew Jensen  wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> No the problem was I forgot my password and reset it, then I couldn't get
> past the cpatcha - today, I'm in...so it likely was fat fingers on my part.
>
> As for where to put this stuff. I don't know, it doesn't do much good if
> folks A) don't know it exists and B) don't actually hand them out.
>

That is the rub, isn't it?

No one will find them on the mailing list.  On the wiki as well it
will be hard to find.   We need something that connects this with a
"call to action".

> I was thinking that as an example the university student flyer might be
> worth a post to the social media sites something along the lines of:
> Are you a university student? Do you use AOO? Would like to promote it? It
> is as easy as taking this <> pdf file, printing a few copies and
> distributing them on your campus, (school library, student union, etc).
>
>
> That would be good for a one time push, then it's just a matter of having
> this stuff reasonably easy to find for folks coming along later - but then
> there lay the trick ;)
>

The key is to extend your targeted persona-based approach (which is a
very smart approach) with a web page (or a wiki page) that is equally
targeted and rich in relevant keywords, so it is findable in
Google/Bing for someone looking for that kind of material.  The
brochure could then be linked to from that page.

We would then have a "call to action" in the form of a blog post, that
we could further publicize via Twitter, Facebook and Google+.

Lather.  Rinse.  Repeat.

Regards,

-Rob

> //drew
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>
>> On 04/09/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>>
>>> focus on an Individual university student / teaching aid / professor ...
>>>
>>>   PDF
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0INm5IZzQwQXRodGM
>>> ODT
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmJ3QzVDNjQyaHc
>>>
>>
>> It's a very nice improvement over the existing leaflet. And a good idea to
>> have a few different types of leaflet (all as PDF and ODT) ready to use for
>> different targets.
>>
>>
>>  I tried to put this on confluence BTW, but am having problems logging on
>>>
>>
>> What kind of problems? If you used your old @openoffice.org account for
>> the cwiki, you must ask infrastruct...@apache.org to change your e-mail
>> address. Symptom: if you login, you cannot access content (not even read
>> the pages available to unauthenticated visitors, let alone edit them).
>>
>>
>>  So - If someone wants to move it to the cwiki, please do
>>>
>>
>> Can you suggest a specific page that your leaflets should be attached to?
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>>
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Re: [request for review] - Solution for regressions 122862, 122870, 122955, 123161 and 123163

[Kay Schenk]

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had worked on a fix to solve some regressions [1][2][3][4][5] introduced
> into Calc in AOO 4.0.0 by changes for issue 12666 [6].
> The patch is attached to issue 122862 [1] and I have committed it on
> trunk, rev. 1520602
>
> Probably, the one or the other can try one of the next build bot
> installation sets from trunk and check the fixed issues and issue 12666.
>
> I would like to have the regressions solved for AOO 4.0.1.
> If my fix works fine (may be with the one or the other smaller
> correction), we can go for it.
> Otherwise, I will revert the changes made for issue 12666 for AOO 4.0.1 to
> get the regressions fixed for AOO 4.0.1
> Issue 12666 will then be solved for AOO 4.1
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> [1] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122862
> [2] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122870
> [3] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122955
> [4] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123161
> [5] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123163
> [6] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=12666
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>

I tried the sample doc with the latest linux-32 nightly build from
buildbot, and made some comments on 122862. Then, I noticed this seemed to
only be Windows 7.

Anyway, all good with Linux-32 but maybe this is not related to  the
issue.  :/


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Re: University Student Promotional Flyer ( was: Re: Yet another flyer)

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Andrea,


2013/9/8 Andrea Pescetti 

> On 04/09/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
>
>> focus on an Individual university student / teaching aid / professor ...
>>
>>   PDF
>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0INm5IZzQwQXRodGM
>> ODT
>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmJ3QzVDNjQyaHc
>>
>
> It's a very nice improvement over the existing leaflet. And a good idea to
> have a few different types of leaflet (all as PDF and ODT) ready to use for
> different targets.


Another one for your collection, but in French. Its goal is to promote the
use of portable applications by Windows users. This is the basis of a
presentation (clearly announced as not official) of the AOO and Educoo
projets that I have to do next year. Only for info.
http://www.softenpoche.com/aoo/SEP.pdf
If you see some branding issue, please let me know, these questions are not
always easy to detect, I find.

A+
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gw

>
>

Re: svn commit: r1521243 - in /openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/xx/product: calc.mdtext draw.mdtext impress.mdtext math.mdtext writer.mdtext

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM,   wrote:
>> Author: robweir
>> Date: Mon Sep  9 19:00:23 2013
>> New Revision: 1521243
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1521243
>> Log:
>> Pull images from /product rather than from /xx/product
>
> The idea of having the product images in /${lang}/product is to
> provide a localized version of the application screen-shots, something
> logical and understandable if you are translating the site (note that
> the image for the icons are not supposed to be localized, so they are
> taken from /product).
>

I wondered if that might be the case.  But the screen shots that are
given as so small that you can't read the text at all.  It could be
Chinese as far as I can tell.

And the fact is that no one has updated these images for AOO 3.4.0,
3.4.1 or 4.0.0, even where the website was translated, such as the /es
site.

> The original application screen-shots should be first updated (they
> are too old), and provide the documents for the localized version.
>

If we had the original documents, then that could work well.  These
documents could then be translated and new screenshots taken.

-Rob

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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

[Steele, Raymond]

I am using trying to build the source code that I pulled from here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source/

I make the changes to my local copy of the files specified at  
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1515285

Now, I am receiving the following. Looking into the cause now. 

=
Building module configmgr
=

Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/qa/unoapi


Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/inc


Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source

Compiling: configmgr/source/components.cxx
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_tree.c", line 590: 
Error: Too many arguments in call to "rtl::OUStringHash::operator()(const 
rtl::OUString&) const".
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_map.h", line 192: 
Where: While instantiating "_STL::_Rb_tree, 
_STL::_Select1st<_STL::pair>, rtl::OUStringHash, 
_STL::allocator<_STL::pair>>::find(const rtl::OUString&) const".
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_map.h", line 192: 
Where: Instantiated from non-template code.
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_tree.c", line 596: 
Error: Too many arguments in call to "rtl::OUStringHash::operator()(const 
rtl::OUString&) const".
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_map.h", line 192: 
Where: While instantiating "_STL::_Rb_tree, 
_STL::_Select1st<_STL::pair>, rtl::OUStringHash, 
_STL::allocator<_STL::pair>>::find(const rtl::OUString&) const".
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/stl/_map.h", line 192: 
Where: Instantiated from non-template code.
2 Error(s) detected.
dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxsoli4.pro/slo/components.obj'

1 module(s):
configmgr
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by 
running:

build --all:configmgr

-Original Message-
From: Herbert Duerr [mailto:h...@apache.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 2:28 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Steele, Raymond
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

Hi Raymond,

On 07.09.2013 02:17, Steele, Raymond wrote:
> Problem after problem.

So far the problems where quite trivial platform differences. Of course the 
problems only become simple after their root cause is understood ;-)

> Now I am getting:
>
> Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source
>
> Compiling: configmgr/source/partial.cxx 
> "/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 199: 
> Error: Could not find a match for boost::tuples::get boost::tuples::HT, boost::tuples::TT>(const 
> boost::tuples::tuple boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type>) needed in 
> boost::unordered::detail::construct_from_tuple boost::tuples::null_type>(configmgr::Partial::Node*, const 
> boost::tuples::tuple boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type>&).
> "/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 350: 
> Where: While instantiating 
> "boost::unordered::detail::construct_from_tuple boost::tuples::null_type>(configmgr::Partial::Node*, const 
> boost::tuples::tuple boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type, 
> boost::tuples::null_type, boost::tuples::null_type>&)".
> "/usr/local/include/boost/unordered/detail/emplace_args.hpp", line 350: 
> Where: Instantiated from boost::unordered::unordered_map configmgr::Partial::Node, boost::hash, 
> _STL::equal_to, _STL::allocator<_STL::pair rtl::OUString, configmgr::Partial::Node>>>::operator[](const rtl::OUString&).
> "/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/configmgr/source/partial.cxx", line 82: Where: 
> Instantiated from non-template code.
> 1 Error(s) detected.
> dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../unxsoli4.pro/slo/partial.obj'

What version of AOO are you building? AOO trunk? AOO400 or AOO401? If you're 
not building AOO trunk I suggest to apply my change from revision
1515285 to it and recompile configmgr. If it helps then the change is a 
candidate to be merged into the release branch as well.

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1515285

Herbert

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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Mr. Phan Anh]

AS you mentioned about the source, we will get stuck in middle of
something that belongs to the "trademark".

>From this version, the name of the product has been changed, he still
holds the name of AOO in the icon but not the name of the product.

But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
the development team should make contact with him about this.

About the source stuff, first of all, we should consider this guy has
made huge contribution to the vision for AOO. I hope that any conflict
can be solved about the "trademark" stuff, but AOO on Android is an
excellent idea ever!

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:32 PM, James Michael DuPont
 wrote:
> and where are the sources or does he not have to publish any?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Mr. Phan Anh  wrote:
>
>> Wow, this guy derserved a medal.
>> Can any developers talk to him?
>> I think this is awesome, and thank Rory for telling about this.
>>
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Re: Fw: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Max Merbald]

Hi Mel,

that sounds like you accidentially assigned OpenOffice to open all word 
dokuments for you when you installed it. To return to normal, 
right-click on a word file in the explorer, then chose "open with" and 
then "Chose default program" You'll get a list of programs to chose from 
and Word should be among them. You should be back to normal then.


Max


Am 09.09.2013 15:47, schrieb Mel Goddard:
Before I do download it, perhaps you can tell me WHY I would need 
"OpenOffice"  to open my files for me.
That's akin to me telling you that you cannot drive your car unless I 
turn the key to start it for you.
I have now wasted almost a full day to try to solve a problem that 
prevents me from doing a 30 second job.


Mel

-Original Message- From: Mel Goddard
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Max Merbald
Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

Max;

The problem is, that I'm trying to open an existing document to add to 
it.

Your program is preventing me from doing it.
I've never had any problem before, until a couple of days ago.
So since I've never even 'heard'  of you before; I did uninstall it, and
then 'somebody' else is trying to get in here.
All I want to do is to access an existing document! That's all.

My computer 'guru' tells me that you're legit, so I'm going to reinstall
your program and see: "What the Hell".

I'll let you know of the follow up.
Mel
-Original Message- From: Max Merbald
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:38 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Mel Goddard
Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

Hello Mel,

unfortunately you didn't tell us what was your actual problem with Open
Office, and that makes it rather difficult to help you. If you do not
wish to have OpenOffice on your computer just uninstall it. I don't
believe that yelling would help you.

Max


Am 09.09.2013 03:30, schrieb Mel Goddard:

GET OUT OF MY COMPUTER!
I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED YOU, AND YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH 
MY WORK ON THIS THING!

GET OUT NOW!
mdgoddard3...@i-zoom.net

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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Yong Lin Ma]

This is amazing. Anyone have idea what need be solved to achieve that on
Android?


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, BRM  wrote:

> I've played with it some. It's pretty good. Unstable at times, but the
> developer does release fixes pretty often.
> I run it on my ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700). It is also the only
> productivity suite that supports ODF without requiring a third-party server
> available on Android.
>
> $0.02
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Andrea Pescetti 
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android
>
>
> Mr. Phan Anh wrote:
> > But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
> > devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
> > the development team should make contact with him about this.
>
> This Android app was already discussed on this list, months ago.
> Trademark issues were amicably resolved with the developer back at the
> time.
>
> If you use this app for a while and find it good, we can list it in the
> third-party ports at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
>
> Regards,
>Andrea.
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Re: University Student Promotional Flyer ( was: Re: Yet another flyer)

[Shemil Hashan]

I need help on steps to make the build on fedora 19.
Please give me steps in simple language with terminal code.
It is urgent. I'm a student of University of Moratuwa,doing a project to
give predictive text for Open Office.
Reply me ASAP,im stuck on the build.



On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Drew Jensen 
> wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > No the problem was I forgot my password and reset it, then I couldn't get
> > past the cpatcha - today, I'm in...so it likely was fat fingers on my
> part.
> >
> > As for where to put this stuff. I don't know, it doesn't do much good if
> > folks A) don't know it exists and B) don't actually hand them out.
> >
>
> That is the rub, isn't it?
>
> No one will find them on the mailing list.  On the wiki as well it
> will be hard to find.   We need something that connects this with a
> "call to action".
>
> > I was thinking that as an example the university student flyer might be
> > worth a post to the social media sites something along the lines of:
> > Are you a university student? Do you use AOO? Would like to promote it?
> It
> > is as easy as taking this <> pdf file, printing a few copies and
> > distributing them on your campus, (school library, student union, etc).
> >
> >
> > That would be good for a one time push, then it's just a matter of having
> > this stuff reasonably easy to find for folks coming along later - but
> then
> > there lay the trick ;)
> >
>
> The key is to extend your targeted persona-based approach (which is a
> very smart approach) with a web page (or a wiki page) that is equally
> targeted and rich in relevant keywords, so it is findable in
> Google/Bing for someone looking for that kind of material.  The
> brochure could then be linked to from that page.
>
> We would then have a "call to action" in the form of a blog post, that
> we could further publicize via Twitter, Facebook and Google+.
>
> Lather.  Rinse.  Repeat.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > //drew
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 04/09/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >>> focus on an Individual university student / teaching aid / professor
> ...
> >>>
> >>>   PDF
> >>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0INm5IZzQwQXRodGM<
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0INm5IZzQwQXRodGM>
> >>> ODT
> >>> https://docs.google.com/file/**d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmJ3QzVDNjQyaHc<
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmJ3QzVDNjQyaHc>
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's a very nice improvement over the existing leaflet. And a good idea
> to
> >> have a few different types of leaflet (all as PDF and ODT) ready to use
> for
> >> different targets.
> >>
> >>
> >>  I tried to put this on confluence BTW, but am having problems logging
> on
> >>>
> >>
> >> What kind of problems? If you used your old @openoffice.org account for
> >> the cwiki, you must ask infrastruct...@apache.org to change your e-mail
> >> address. Symptom: if you login, you cannot access content (not even read
> >> the pages available to unauthenticated visitors, let alone edit them).
> >>
> >>
> >>  So - If someone wants to move it to the cwiki, please do
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can you suggest a specific page that your leaflets should be attached
> to?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Andrea.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android

[Shemil Hashan]

I need help on steps to make the build on fedora 19.
Please give me steps in simple language with terminal code.
It is urgent. I'm a student of University of Moratuwa,doing a project to
give predictive text for Open Office.
Reply me ASAP,im stuck on the build.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Yong Lin Ma  wrote:

> This is amazing. Anyone have idea what need be solved to achieve that on
> Android?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, BRM  wrote:
>
> > I've played with it some. It's pretty good. Unstable at times, but the
> > developer does release fixes pretty often.
> > I run it on my ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700). It is also the only
> > productivity suite that supports ODF without requiring a third-party
> server
> > available on Android.
> >
> > $0.02
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Andrea Pescetti 
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android
> >
> >
> > Mr. Phan Anh wrote:
> > > But this guy is good, he "ported" a whole project of AOO to Android
> > > devices. This is the feature of the future and I think some guys at
> > > the development team should make contact with him about this.
> >
> > This Android app was already discussed on this list, months ago.
> > Trademark issues were amicably resolved with the developer back at the
> > time.
> >
> > If you use this app for a while and find it good, we can list it in the
> > third-party ports at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
> >
> > Regards,
> >Andrea.
> >
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Re: Example of spreadsheet formula testing

[Shemil Hashan]

I need help on steps to make the build on fedora 19.
Please give me steps in simple language with terminal code.
It is urgent. I'm a student of University of Moratuwa,doing a project to
give predictive text for Open Office.
Reply me ASAP,im stuck on the build.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 03/09/2013 Herbert Duerr wrote:
>
>> That's a good idea. Here is a first very rough draft:
>> https://blogs.apache.org/**roller-ui/authoring/preview/**
>> OOo/?previewEntry=writing_**spreadsheet_test_cases_now
>>
>
> That link is behind an editor password. Here's the public preview link:
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
> writing_spreadsheet_test_**cases_now
>
> And the post is nice too! I would just add something about how people can
> help. I assume the best way is to contact the QA list and say that they
> could contribute testcases.
>
> Since testcases must be attached anyway, one way to get them could be to
> open a specific issue in Bugzilla and attach testcases to is as they become
> available.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Open office

[Shemil Hashan]

I need help on steps to make the build on fedora 19.
Please give me steps in simple language with terminal code.
It is urgent. I'm a student of University of Moratuwa,doing a project to
give predictive text for Open Office.
Reply me ASAP,im stuck on the build.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Al  wrote:
>
> >I used Open Office for some time before I was contacted and informed
> > that my trial period was up and I had a choice of several payment options
> > to continue the use.  I see no where in all your advertising that this is
> > brought to the subscribers attention while you are urging them to use
> Open
> > Office.
> >
> >
>
>
> Hello Al,
>
> Apache OpenOffice is free.  No charge.  No subscription.  No renewal fee.
> No trial period.  You download it and use it, forever.
>
> The Apache Software Foundation is a non-profit organization.  We never sell
> software.  Our charitable mission is to make open source software available
> to the public for free.  That's what we do.
>
> You might want to review the following blog post on some of the scams out
> there:
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/how_to_safely_download_apache
>
> If you happen to remember where you downloaded your copy of OpenOffice from
> (it was not from us) please share it with us at
> priv...@openoffice.apache.org.
>
> And you are welcome to download the latest version of OpenOffice directly
> from us at http://www.openoffice.org/download.
>
> You are right to be upset, but trust me when I say that this was not us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee
>
>
> This is a very underhanded stunt as you well know; to allow users to build
> > huge information units and then tell them to pay or go somewhere else,
> thus
> > having to move and try to save all their information.
> >
> > Your song and dance is a very convincing act until the final curtain when
> > you must pay to get out of the theatre.
> > Al Banks
> > alanbank...@gmail.com
> >
>

4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123214] Updated bundled spellchecker for gd

[bugzilla]

Andrea Pescetti  has asked  for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123214: Updated bundled spellchecker for gd
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123214


--- Additional Comments from Andrea Pescetti 
The Gaelic (gd) dictionary has already been updated on trunk and should be
updated in AOO401 too.

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4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123144] Print - Mail merge: Mail merge database dialog will not appear for document saved from AOO 4.0.0

[bugzilla]

Andrea Pescetti  has asked  for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123144: Print - Mail merge: Mail merge database dialog will not appear for
document saved from AOO 4.0.0
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123144


--- Additional Comments from Andrea Pescetti 
Print merge and mail merge will lose the link to their data sources when
saving/opening a file, thus:

1) Breaking the most common usage pattern for Print/Mail merge (user must go
and link the the data source every time he reopens the file)

2) Breaking existing and working files (a file working in 3.4.1, if saved with
4.0.0, will stop working)

The issue is not fixed on trunk yet, but a detailed analysis by arielch, orw
and vitriol allowed to identify this as a specific problem with the order the
information is stored in the ODF file.

I've already seen multiple independent reports of the bug on mailing
lists/forums.

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4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123101] French (fr) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1

[bugzilla]

Andrea Pescetti  has asked  for 4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123101: French (fr) translation update for OpenOffice 4.0.1
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123101


--- Additional Comments from Andrea Pescetti 
The "Release Blocker" flag isn't set for French yet, but French was updated in
Pootle:
https://translate.apache.org/fr/
(UI unchanged; help updated) and the fix should be ported to OpenOffice 4.0.1.

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Re: [request for review] - Solution for regressions 122862, 122870, 122955, 123161 and 123163

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 09.09.2013 23:39, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Hi,

I had worked on a fix to solve some regressions [1][2][3][4][5] introduced
into Calc in AOO 4.0.0 by changes for issue 12666 [6].
The patch is attached to issue 122862 [1] and I have committed it on
trunk, rev. 1520602

Probably, the one or the other can try one of the next build bot
installation sets from trunk and check the fixed issues and issue 12666.

I would like to have the regressions solved for AOO 4.0.1.
If my fix works fine (may be with the one or the other smaller
correction), we can go for it.
Otherwise, I will revert the changes made for issue 12666 for AOO 4.0.1 to
get the regressions fixed for AOO 4.0.1
Issue 12666 will then be solved for AOO 4.1

Thanks in advance.

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122862
[2] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122870
[3] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122955
[4] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123161
[5] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123163
[6] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=12666


Best regards, Oliver.



I tried the sample doc with the latest linux-32 nightly build from
buildbot, and made some comments on 122862. Then, I noticed this seemed to
only be Windows 7.

Anyway, all good with Linux-32 but maybe this is not related to  the
issue.  :/



Thanks for the review.
The defect is independent of the operating system - I just forgot to 
adjust the issue data.


Best regards, Oliver.



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Building on Fedora 19 (Re: FYI: OpenOffice for Android)

[Andrea Pescetti]

Shemil Hashan wrote:

I need help on steps to make the build on fedora 19.
Please give me steps in simple language with terminal code.


Please start new discussions (i.e., don't reply to another message but 
create a new one) or your messages will be buried in irrelevant threads 
and harder to notice. And please do not post your request to 450 people 
four times in four minutes with four wrong subjects! In other mailing 
lists, people get banned for far less than this.


Fedora 19 build instructions are at
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
and
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Fedora_Build_Instructions#Fedora_19

Post here if you need more information. Note that Alexandro had already 
sent you the first link, so rather than asking something generic I 
expect you to tell us where you are stuck and we'll help you out.



It is urgent. I'm a student of University of Moratuwa,doing a project to
give predictive text for Open Office.


This is something that I haven't fully understood from your first post. 
Could you elaborate on it? OpenOffice already has automatic completion 
of words. Is this something similar to it?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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