Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Thanks - Covered this in my response yesterday. The paragraph style dialogue is entirely different from the paragraph dialogue and is used for editing styles (which may include paragraph settings, obviously). - Original Message - From: Tal Daniel Sent: 05/14/14 05:18 PM To: dev Subject: Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1 On Wed, May 14 circul...@gmx.com wrote: If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. This isn't accurate: Paragraph is availabe from Format Paragraph... (as in Office). And, there IS an option to add the paragraph button, if you use it allot, by pressing the more triangle in the Formatting toolbar Visible Buttons. There, choose Paragraph button (last).
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Dave: Many thanks for your very kind reply. However it's a different dialog. The 'Paragraph Style' dialog allows all the attributes of the style the cursor happens to be in at the time to be edited - including the paragraph settings. On a mac it can only be accessed by control click, then selecting 'edit paragraph style...' from the menu. Have presumed that equates to a right click menu on other operating systems, but perhaps its a left click. Sorry if my original message was misleading in that respect. There is currently no icon for this dialog, nor is there a menu item. Hence there is no way it can be added by customising. The reason it is so important is that it is the only foolproof way to edit a paragraph style or check its attributes, and the only way (know to me, at least) to customise the built-in styles. Stay happy - Original Message - From: Dave Barton Sent: 05/14/14 02:26 PM To: circul...@gmx.com Subject: Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1 Original Message From: circul...@gmx.com To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 13:37:40 +0100 Copy of my post to the list: circul...@gmx.com wrote:If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. The icon is already available, just use the customize option. I have sent you a pm illustrating the necessary selections. (See attached.) At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. In the default Format menu there is a Paragraph... option to open the paragraph style dialog. Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train. Dave
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 30/04/14 09:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place. I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the overall picture and potentially we have to change more ... But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify, improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release. We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible and many different people have many different opinions. I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Hi Samer, now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons where necessary and to do proper testing. Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do minor changes. I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in place. Hi Samer, I was on vacation and potentially you have already answered and it is still queued in the mail backlog who knows (great disaster) but can you give me an update where we are. Do you have plans and time to continue working on this? Kind regards Juergen Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Reply in-line. circul...@gmx.com wrote: If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. The icon is already available, just use the customize option. I have sent you a pm illustrating the necessary selections. At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. In the default Format menu there is a Paragraph... option to open the paragraph style dialog. Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. Sorry for the late request: only joined this mailing list a couple of days ago, so was entirely unaware this was in train. On 13 May 2014, at 15:18, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 30/04/14 09:51, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place. I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the overall picture and potentially we have to change more ... But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify, improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release. We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible and many different people have many different opinions. I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Hi Samer, now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons where necessary and to do proper testing. Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do minor changes. I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in place. Hi Samer, I was on vacation and potentially you have already answered and it is still queued in the mail backlog who knows (great disaster) but can you give me an update where we are. Do you have plans and time to continue working on this? Kind regards Juergen Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On Wed, May 14 circul...@gmx.com wrote: If it is not too late, would it be possible to include an icon in Writer to open the paragraph style dialogue? This is a vital tool: It is the only foolproof way to fully set up styles, also to check what the attributes are. At present it is only accessible via the right click menu then choosing 'edit paragraph style...' No icon, no menu item. This isn't accurate: Paragraph is availabe from Format Paragraph... (as in Office). And, there IS an option to add the paragraph button, if you use it allot, by pressing the more triangle in the Formatting toolbar Visible Buttons. There, choose Paragraph button (last).
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 2/28/14 9:06 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place. I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the overall picture and potentially we have to change more ... But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify, improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release. We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible and many different people have many different opinions. I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Hi Samer, now after the 4.1 release I would like to move this forward and integrate the new icons as soon as possible in trunk. This will give us enough time to review the new icons in real life, to fine tune the icons where necessary and to do proper testing. Do you have already an idea when you can provide the svg files, yes svg is best to have the source files in place for later use or minor changes. In general I would like to suggest that we provide the src files for any images that other have the chance later to work them. The experience have shown that otherwise it is hard or impossible to do minor changes. I looking forward to the first dev build where we have the new icons in place. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 2/27/14 11:53 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. ok perfect, thanks for your support. We are running a little bit out of time and have made no tests so far with the new icons in place. I suggest that we prepare test builds during the beta phase and see how the new icons work. Important from my opinion is that they fit in the overall picture and potentially we have to change more ... But lets see what we can achieve in time and when we all agree to integrate them in the GA we can do that. Otherwise we should immediately continue the work and integrate them asap in trunk to test, verify, improve this highly visible UI changes for the next release. We should not forget that such visible UI changes are always sensible and many different people have many different opinions. I am in favor of having this new icons available as soon as possible. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Juergen -- It looks like there are svg items included in the zip files -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886 I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need. I have seen this but the file type icons are not complete, only impress and math are available. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote: I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer, thanks for your work. I have one remark and one (possibly stupid) question: - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background color. As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other applications, I assume this is a mistake. - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part of some of the icons mean? Is that a Mac thing? Regards, Andre Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I'm tweaking the source SVGs so that the pixels in lines aren't between two pixels and look blurry. Once the SVGs are done its only a few minutes to generate the different output types. I kept waiting to have free uninterrupted block of time to complete the icons in the two months, which never happened. This last week I realized I'm making better progress if I did one icon each night. I'll keep posting updated zips with source SVGs as each finish. Soon I'll have the source svg's done, then we can worry about generating assets. Samer On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/25/14 1:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Juergen -- It looks like there are svg items included in the zip files -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886 I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need. I have seen this but the file type icons are not complete, only impress and math are available. Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote: I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer, thanks for your work. I have one remark and one (possibly stupid) question: - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background color. As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other applications, I assume this is a mistake. - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part of some of the icons mean? Is that a Mac thing? Regards, Andre Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Samer On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote: I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer, thanks for your work. I have one remark and one (possibly stupid) question: - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background color. As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other applications, I assume this is a mistake. - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part of some of the icons mean? Is that a Mac thing? Regards, Andre Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/ attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6 modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 02/24/2014 07:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 2/19/14 4:18 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Good eye on the green, that was a mistake, correcting now and uploading a new copy shortly. Yeah @2 for their retina display basically twice the physical pixels per inch (not sure if that statement is true, but its how we figure out the icons.) I know we need windows format, we still have time before the release, Jurgen or if someone else knows what formats and sizes we need that would be a great help. I will check the needed formats asap but important is that you provide the svg's that others can help as well. As always it is not easy to identify how the process work and where the images are stored and where to used ... We have some in default_images and used in probably in the start center and ??? Then we have icons in sysui as *.ico and *.icns Means there is still some work to do but I would like to try to include them for AOO 4.1. Can you share the svg files asap? Juergen Juergen -- It looks like there are svg items included in the zip files -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34834886 I don't know right at the moment if this is all we need. Samer On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote: I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer, thanks for your work. I have one remark and one (possibly stupid) question: - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background color. As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other applications, I assume this is a mistake. - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part of some of the icons mean? Is that a Mac thing? Regards, Andre Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/ attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6 modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe,
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.orgarea somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/ attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6 modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/ attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6 modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 18.02.2014 04:36, Samer Mansour wrote: I know for windows 48x48 is used in windows 8 in a lot of defaults. I'm hoping I'm not too late to get the list of all icons sizes/formats needed to finish this before the next release. Anyone know when the next release is? On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: cwiki is back up now I've uploaded the application icons in a zip to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Scroll down to feb 17th, I went with my last design and did the final pixel tweaking so anti-aliasing doesn't blur the pixels in the icons. Its the circle with the gull and the context offset in the lower left corner. Samer, thanks for your work. I have one remark and one (possibly stupid) question: - The PNG icons for Calc have slight transparancy in their background color. As this does not exist in the SVG nor in icons for other applications, I assume this is a mistake. - Maybe I have missed this in a previous mail, but what does the @2 part of some of the icons mean? Is that a Mac thing? Regards, Andre Samer On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/17/2014 08:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Sorry about this situation. I will produce the following pngs for macOS today. The cwiki seems to be down, so I can e-mail you the sources and finished products directly icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Can you compile a list of formats we need? ie windows and mac, and what ever else we need. Hi Samer -- Since both wikis are currently down, can you put sources people.apache.org area somewhere so we could get to them? We can do the rendering once we have the .svg files without any problem. I think Jürgen is on vacation this week. Thanks for all your wonderful work on these updates. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/ attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6 modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 12/16/13 10:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated I assume that we get no new icons for AOO 4.1, correct? Maybe you can share the source files and somebody else is interested to continue. I like the new icons and would like to see them in the office as soon as possible. Kind regards Juergen Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 12/13/13 6:37 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. Hi Samer, no pressure and your new job should have of course a higher prio. Thanks for keeping us updated Juergen On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Just so you don't think I died in a fire. I'm just under a lot of pressure at my new workplace and I'm working weekends because we're flying by the edge of our seats at this start up. I just ordered my family gifts online. I'm trying to get my priorities right. I will have this done before the new year. Just need to squeeze it in. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/23/13 6:45 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: I think I found what we need with the following: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/34834886/logo-w-offset3.png?version=6modificationDate=1385227784594 (from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons ) The application icons will have the bird and the circle branding. When the application icon is 16x16 I will drop the gull. The file icons are absolutely an improvement off the old file icons, keep that in mind. I won't be placing the gulls in the file icons. The file icon at 32x32 has 17x20 inside for the application context and that's being dedicated to the context. I can have the rough icons ready in a week and a half. just to ensure that we get all sizes we need The main.icns file on MacOS contains icon_16x16.png icon_16...@2.png (32x32) icon_32x326.png icon_32...@2.png (64x64) icon_128x128.png icon_128x...@2.png (256x256) icon_256x256.png icon_256x...@2.png (512x512) icon_512x512.png icon_512x...@2.png (1024x1024) Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I've been so busy at work in the last week, let me set myself a reminder to review this on Saturday and give everyone an update and propose how to move forward. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 11/4/13 8:23 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Hi Samer, any news on this? I believe we should integrate new icons as soon as possible Juergen Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
This is just a reminder that this coming Nov 9th is the end of the 30 day window for list folk to submit ideas, whether in words or images. After this date, I will compile the ideas and feedback. Samer Mansour On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment already but my preference would be 1. drop it completely or 2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant at the moment I wouldn't drop it completely since it's good to have the Apache attribution on the splash screen, so that users who do not know about Apache can at least have a hint while opening OpenOffice and reading The Apache Software Foundation. But I agree that the feather should be made smaller, and the text is confused and too dark with the current grey colors we use. Maybe something like the header of http://www.apache.org/ ? Feather (smaller in proportion) + text The Apache Software Foundation with the text written in grey instead of black. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote: On 10 October 2013 04:01, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our typical user is lost on the first shot. Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but nothing else, at least not to me. We have made more than enough attribution to Apache compared to other projects and there related products. I talk most often about OpenOffice and not Apache OpenOffice and that will never change. Just my opinion Juergen You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
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Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote: The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our typical user is lost on the first shot. Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the feather with [The] Apache Software Foundation text only. Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but nothing else, at least not to me. Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, OpenOffice can suffice in this context. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Andrea, I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it. Samer Mansour On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote: The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our typical user is lost on the first shot. Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the feather with [The] Apache Software Foundation text only. Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but nothing else, at least not to me. Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, OpenOffice can suffice in this context. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 10/18/13 2:44 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: Andrea, I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it. we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment already but my preference would be 1. drop it completely or 2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant at the moment Juergen Samer Mansour On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote: The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our typical user is lost on the first shot. Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the feather with [The] Apache Software Foundation text only. Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but nothing else, at least not to me. Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, OpenOffice can suffice in this context. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Am 18.10.2013 14:51, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment already but my preference would be 1. drop it completely or plus: ... members of the OpenOffice community. and perhaps (compare with Help, Info): Copyright ... The A... S... F... -- Grüße Günter Marxen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Am 10/18/2013 02:51 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 10/18/13 2:44 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: Andrea, I've done as you said and attached to the bug ticket. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 If everyone can lazy agree we should commit it. we should this discuss on the list only ... I have added a comment already but my preference would be 1. drop it completely or 2. make the Apache logo much smaller and move it down, it is to dominant at the moment A link is indeed not useful in this dialog. However, I would leave the graphic - with a smaller size. Marcus On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 18/10/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/17/13 8:53 PM, sebb wrote: The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=123491https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 we can drop the feather in the start center completely or let it stand alone but I don't like the idea to link back to apache.org where our typical user is lost on the first shot. Note that this is not the Start center but the splash screen, hopefully displayed for a very short time. I would remove the URL, and put the feather with [The] Apache Software Foundation text only. Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. I don't think so and the reason is quite simple. The OpenOffice community and the open office project exists much longer than the Apache OpenOffice project. The new name is mainly to reflect our new home but nothing else, at least not to me. Indeed. We already have prominent attribution to Apache, OpenOffice can suffice in this context. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10 October 2013 04:01, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher The Splash screen needs some changes; please see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123491 Also, the About screen says: This product was created by the OpenOffice community. I think that should say: This product was created by the Apache OpenOffice community. You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Thanks for the response Samer - will follow up from here on using the comments on the wiki page. Best wishes, //drew On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Here is another stab where I keep the gulls in the logo, scroll down to october 15th. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons These are high contrast. You can desaturate them and they are still distinguishable. Samer Mansour On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Samer, et al Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons - particularly as depicted in Win 8. Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath. Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I suppose can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources. Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast or would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-) would need to also produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected? Thanks for your work here, very much so //drew On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons I like the flat icons very much. Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png Looks very nice. Peter To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png(there is no need to restart the application). Regards --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I would like to help with the documentation. Where can i start?? On Oct 10, 2013 9:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Howdy Samer, et al Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons - particularly as depicted in Win 8. Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath. Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I suppose can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources. Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast or would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-) would need to also produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected? Thanks for your work here, very much so //drew On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Iconshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons I like the flat icons very much. Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcherhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png Looks very nice. Peter To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png(there is no need to restart the application). Regards --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Hello, Here is another stab where I keep the gulls in the logo, scroll down to october 15th. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons These are high contrast. You can desaturate them and they are still distinguishable. Samer Mansour On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Howdy Samer, et al Nice stuff - I think perhaps I'm in the minority, looking over the responses, but I rather like the rounded (Exploration 2) icons - particularly as depicted in Win 8. Rounded or squared however, they are all a fresh breath. Gulls - I understand about many wanting to loose them. I think the iconic value is rather high though with existing brand recognition. That I suppose can be maintained else wheres in project/application resources. Just curious, with these new icons would you consider them high contrast or would you expect that the project (you, I suppose ;-) would need to also produce HC equivalents for whichever set is selected? Thanks for your work here, very much so //drew On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons I like the flat icons very much. Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog.png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/AboutDialog410.**png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png Looks very nice. Peter To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/about.png http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png(there is no need to restart the application). Regards --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/10/2013 11:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons I like the flat icons very much. Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png Looks very nice. Peter To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/10/13 11:26 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: Andrea, I wasn't aware of that perspective. Thanks! Ok I will/lets try to make a solution where its more clear what those three buttons are for. I agree if users are confused where to find templates or extensions that is a problem. I'll prioritize that after the icons are completed. I'll submit some ideas onto https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcherwhile I am waiting for the Nov 9th deadline for icons to pass. we should for now concentrate on the visual refresh, the content is a separate topic that needs further discussion and in more detail. We can use the space much better in the future but we also need the resources to implement it. I can think of preview of the most often used templates, bookmarks/preview of the most often used documents to easy access them with one click from the start center. Maybe a new feed etc. Many more ideas come into my mind. But agian the content is a separate topic from my perspective Juergen Samer On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote: When I have my last idea posted you will understand. Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative! There is one detail in https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcherhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or the Extensions/Templates sites. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina @Ariel I see what you mean about this. Maybe too many orbs in the About dialog. The revised one does seem better. -- - MzK Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher +1 for my side for the proposal. You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles. Best regards, Oliver. I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/10/13 5:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). +1, I believe you can simply replace it and if somebody has further ideas to improve the about dialog it's fine and we can discuss it. Juergen Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher +1 for my side for the proposal. You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles. +1 I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - like ;-) Best regards, Oliver. I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Hi, that sounds like a good idea. I think that the icons on the user interface of OOO could use some refreshment as well. They haven't changed since version 2.x and are looking a bit dusty by now. OOO could use a more modern look! Max Am 10.10.2013 05:53, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I'm working on one more idea where I don't use a background. Using a background circle or square requires you to have padding inside before you can draw in it. It was a eureka moment these icons at 16x16 and 32x32 would look a lot bigger and crisper if I didn't have them inside a circle or square When I have my last idea posted you will understand. As for the about dialog box, I think that is low priority, as it is a big improvement from 3.x. We have some other areas where we can make a bigger impact visually. If there is another area of the application that you feel needs a refresh let us know, ie font dialog, . Samer On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.comwrote: On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Iconshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcherhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher +1 for my side for the proposal. You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles. +1 I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - like ;-) Best regards, Oliver. I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Keep the same (or similar) colors as in existed icons: that will help for easier visual recognising icons by the purpose. Wlada 2013/10/10 Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com I'm working on one more idea where I don't use a background. Using a background circle or square requires you to have padding inside before you can draw in it. It was a eureka moment these icons at 16x16 and 32x32 would look a lot bigger and crisper if I didn't have them inside a circle or square When I have my last idea posted you will understand. As for the about dialog box, I think that is low priority, as it is a big improvement from 3.x. We have some other areas where we can make a bigger impact visually. If there is another area of the application that you feel needs a refresh let us know, ie font dialog, . Samer On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: On 10.10.2013 09:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 10.10.2013 05:01, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcher https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher +1 for my side for the proposal. You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I like 'AOO Desktop Icon Exploration 2 (Round)', but not the circles. Instead I would prefer rounded rectangles. +1 I always proposed rounded rectangles (better: squares) AKA AppIcons - like ;-) Best regards, Oliver. I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote: When I have my last idea posted you will understand. Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative! There is one detail in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or the Extensions/Templates sites. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Andrea, I wasn't aware of that perspective. Thanks! Ok I will/lets try to make a solution where its more clear what those three buttons are for. I agree if users are confused where to find templates or extensions that is a problem. I'll prioritize that after the icons are completed. I'll submit some ideas onto https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcherwhile I am waiting for the Nov 9th deadline for icons to pass. Samer On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 10/10/2013 Samer Mansour wrote: When I have my last idea posted you will understand. Looking forward to it, and thanks for taking initiative! There is one detail in https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO4.1+-+Application+And+**Launcherhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher that merits some discussion: I don't believe it's OK to remove the three buttons leading to the websites (to the official site, to Extensions and to Templates). We need to make our online resources more visible, not to hide them: we already have too many users who do not follow our official site or the Extensions/Templates sites. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:01:09PM -0400, Samer Mansour wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour The About dialog does not look good with the orb in the header, the old version looked nicer than the current one Old version: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog.png Current one, removing the orb from the header: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/AboutDialog410.png To test different approaches, just replace about.png in the program folder (where soffice.exe is located), for example with this one http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/about.png (there is no need to restart the application). Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpdT7QML5hks.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I agree AOO needs a fresher look and I like there is a stipulated deadline. Will hope to contribute. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Wed Oct 9 22:01:09 2013 Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. Here is the icons that need to be updated: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons Related asset: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, let us know if you have trouble) I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 days, November 9th, 2013. Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for optimizing for the best user experience. This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach consensus without a end user vote. eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special case because it is the face of AOO. Samer Mansour
