Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-02-01 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
pretty cool!

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Awesome! Thanks Gurkan!

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 3:14 PM


 The biggest missing part is now to complete the
 SPI implementation.
 Not anymore ! It has done :)

 I will start to release process in this week.

 --Gurkan



 
 From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 11:58:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

 The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI
 implementation. Otherwise OWB is really usable already
 (using it in a production project since a month now).

 But I'm not sure if we really need this for the M4 release
 (would be fine though). I'd rather like to kick out a M4 now
 and ship a M5 later this month. There are also a few very
 important conferences this month (including JSFDays together
 with the Spring people) and it would be really cool if
 people can go out and use OWB without having to compile it
 theirselfs!

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:36 AM
  Hi;
 
  It has remained some issues in M4 release. After
 closing
  those issues, release will be more fine and developer
  friendly :) I think that we will work on those issues
 in
  this week and some more testing and release M4 in
 weekend.
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 
  Hallo guys,
 
  is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next
 week(s)?
 
  Thanks!
  Matthias
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   It has been lots of corrections and bug
 resolutions
  after our M3 release. I want to release M4 version,
 because
  current code base is  the most mature and covers
 lots
  of specification requirements. I would like to
 re-solve
  issues that we can do until weekend and create M4
 release
  beginning of the next week.
  
   I am very happy that this will be the our first
  release while living as a TLP.
  
   WDYT?
  
   Thanks;
  
   --Gurkan
  
  
  
 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Struberg
The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI implementation. Otherwise 
OWB is really usable already (using it in a production project since a month 
now).

But I'm not sure if we really need this for the M4 release (would be fine 
though). I'd rather like to kick out a M4 now and ship a M5 later this month. 
There are also a few very important conferences this month (including JSFDays 
together with the Spring people) and it would be really cool if people can go 
out and use OWB without having to compile it theirselfs!

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:36 AM
 Hi;
 
 It has remained some issues in M4 release. After closing
 those issues, release will be more fine and developer
 friendly :) I think that we will work on those issues in
 this week and some more testing and release M4 in weekend.
 
 Thanks;
 
 --Gurkan
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 
 Hallo guys,
 
 is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next week(s)?
 
 Thanks!
 Matthias
 
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions
 after our M3 release. I want to release M4 version, because
 current code base is  the most mature and covers lots
 of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
 issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release
 beginning of the next week.
 
  I am very happy that this will be the our first
 release while living as a TLP.
 
  WDYT?
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
      
 ___
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 -- 
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 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 
 
      
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-31 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI implementation. Otherwise 
 OWB is really usable already (using it in a production
 project since a month now).

yes, that is my feeling too.


 But I'm not sure if we really need this for the M4 release (would be fine 
 though). I'd rather like to kick out a M4 now and ship a M5 later this
 month. There are also a few very important conferences this month (including 
 JSFDays together with the Spring people) and it would be
 really cool if people can go out and use OWB without having to compile it 
 theirselfs!

:-) +1 on that!

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:36 AM
 Hi;

 It has remained some issues in M4 release. After closing
 those issues, release will be more fine and developer
 friendly :) I think that we will work on those issues in
 this week and some more testing and release M4 in weekend.

 Thanks;

 --Gurkan




 
 From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

 Hallo guys,

 is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next week(s)?

 Thanks!
 Matthias

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions
 after our M3 release. I want to release M4 version, because
 current code base is  the most mature and covers lots
 of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
 issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release
 beginning of the next week.
 
  I am very happy that this will be the our first
 release while living as a TLP.
 
  WDYT?
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
 
 ___
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 --
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 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-31 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu


The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI implementation.
Not anymore ! It has done :)

I will start to release process in this week.

--Gurkan




From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 11:58:15 AM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI implementation. Otherwise 
OWB is really usable already (using it in a production project since a month 
now).

But I'm not sure if we really need this for the M4 release (would be fine 
though). I'd rather like to kick out a M4 now and ship a M5 later this month. 
There are also a few very important conferences this month (including JSFDays 
together with the Spring people) and it would be really cool if people can go 
out and use OWB without having to compile it theirselfs!

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:36 AM
 Hi;
 
 It has remained some issues in M4 release. After closing
 those issues, release will be more fine and developer
 friendly :) I think that we will work on those issues in
 this week and some more testing and release M4 in weekend.
 
 Thanks;
 
 --Gurkan
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 
 Hallo guys,
 
 is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next week(s)?
 
 Thanks!
 Matthias
 
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions
 after our M3 release. I want to release M4 version, because
 current code base is  the most mature and covers lots
 of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
 issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release
 beginning of the next week.
 
  I am very happy that this will be the our first
 release while living as a TLP.
 
  WDYT?
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
  
 ___
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  İnternet üzerindeki en iyi içeriği Yahoo! Türkiye
 sizlere sunuyor!
 
 
 
 -- 
 Matthias Wessendorf
 
 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 
 
  
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-31 Thread Mark Struberg
Awesome! Thanks Gurkan!

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 3:14 PM
 
 
 The biggest missing part is now to complete the
 SPI implementation.
 Not anymore ! It has done :)
 
 I will start to release process in this week.
 
 --Gurkan
 
 
 
 
 From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 11:58:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 
 The biggest missing part is now to complete the SPI
 implementation. Otherwise OWB is really usable already
 (using it in a production project since a month now).
 
 But I'm not sure if we really need this for the M4 release
 (would be fine though). I'd rather like to kick out a M4 now
 and ship a M5 later this month. There are also a few very
 important conferences this month (including JSFDays together
 with the Spring people) and it would be really cool if
 people can go out and use OWB without having to compile it
 theirselfs!
 
 LieGrue,
 strub
 
 --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:36 AM
  Hi;
  
  It has remained some issues in M4 release. After
 closing
  those issues, release will be more fine and developer
  friendly :) I think that we will work on those issues
 in
  this week and some more testing and release M4 in
 weekend.
  
  Thanks;
  
  --Gurkan
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
  
  Hallo guys,
  
  is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next
 week(s)?
  
  Thanks!
  Matthias
  
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   It has been lots of corrections and bug
 resolutions
  after our M3 release. I want to release M4 version,
 because
  current code base is  the most mature and covers
 lots
  of specification requirements. I would like to
 re-solve
  issues that we can do until weekend and create M4
 release
  beginning of the next week.
  
   I am very happy that this will be the our first
  release while living as a TLP.
  
   WDYT?
  
   Thanks;
  
   --Gurkan
  
  
       
 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hallo guys,

is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next week(s)?

Thanks!
Matthias

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release. I 
 want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature and 
 covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve issues 
 that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the next week.

 I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a TLP.

 WDYT?

 Thanks;

 --Gurkan


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-30 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
Hi;

It has remained some issues in M4 release. After closing those issues, release 
will be more fine and developer friendly :) I think that we will work on those 
issues in this week and some more testing and release M4 in weekend.

Thanks;

--Gurkan





From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 12:22:53 PM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

Hallo guys,

is the plan still on, to release M4 in the next week(s)?

Thanks!
Matthias

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release. I 
 want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature and 
 covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve issues 
 that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the next week.

 I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a TLP.

 WDYT?

 Thanks;

 --Gurkan


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I agree with you.

+1 on a new release.

Minor things:
-after the release, I feel we should not continue to use the
1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
Do you agree ?

-Matthias

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release. I 
 want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature and 
 covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve issues 
 that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the next week.

 I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a TLP.

 WDYT?

 Thanks;

 --Gurkan


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
I feel we should not continue to use the 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
Do you agree ?

* In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
* After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.

We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be there after M5. After
releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in our modules.

Any other ideas?

--Gurkan

21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org yazdı:

 I agree with you.

 +1 on a new release.

 Minor things:
 -after the release, I feel we should not continue to use the
 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
 Do you agree ?

 -Matthias

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release.
 I want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature
 and covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
 issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the
 next week.
 
  I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a
 TLP.
 
  WDYT?
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
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 --
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 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




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http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com


Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
I feel we should not continue to use the 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
Do you agree ?

 * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
 * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.

 We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be there after M5. After
 releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in our modules.

 Any other ideas?

what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the current
direction is, IMO

Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or so ?

Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT pattern is fine.
I agree :-)

-Matthias



 --Gurkan

 21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org yazdı:

 I agree with you.

 +1 on a new release.

 Minor things:
 -after the release, I feel we should not continue to use the
 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
 Do you agree ?

 -Matthias

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release.
 I want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature
 and covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
 issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the
 next week.
 
  I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a
 TLP.
 
  WDYT?
 
  Thanks;
 
  --Gurkan
 
 
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 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




 --
 Gurkan Erdogdu
 http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com




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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Struberg
I'm not sure if we need a M5.

Current code quality is already pretty fine and 1.0.0 from my understanding 
would mean being feature complete and (almost) passing the TCK. I would then go 
on and quarterly release 1.0.1, 1.0.2 as bugfix versions.

So I'd say we should stick to 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT 

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:

 From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
 To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:46 AM
 2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
 I feel we should not continue to use the
 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
 Do you agree ?
 
  * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
  * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use
 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
 
  We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be
 there after M5. After
  releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in
 our modules.
 
  Any other ideas?
 
 what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
 That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the
 current
 direction is, IMO
 
 Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or
 so ?
 
 Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT
 pattern is fine.
 I agree :-)
 
 -Matthias
 
 
 
  --Gurkan
 
  21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf
 mat...@apache.org
 yazdı:
 
  I agree with you.
 
  +1 on a new release.
 
  Minor things:
  -after the release, I feel we should not continue
 to use the
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
  Do you agree ?
 
  -Matthias
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu
 gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   It has been lots of corrections and bug
 resolutions after our M3 release.
  I want to release M4 version, because current code
 base is  the most mature
  and covers lots of specification requirements. I
 would like to re-solve
  issues that we can do until weekend and create M4
 release beginning of the
  next week.
  
   I am very happy that this will be the our
 first release while living as a
  TLP.
  
   WDYT?
  
   Thanks;
  
   --Gurkan
  
  
      
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the current
direction is, IMO

Yes, it is so reasonable. Actually M5 contains 2 bullets that we can move
them to 1.0.0 release. But as a common pattern with old releases, I want to
releas e artifacts as 1.0.0-M5 instead of 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT.

There is no road map other than one in OWB JIRA.(
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel
)

I will go ahead and remove M5 release this evening if no other objection.

Thanks;

--Gurkan



21 Ocak 2010 12:46 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org yazdı:

 2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
 I feel we should not continue to use the 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version
 number
 Do you agree ?
 
  * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
  * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
 
  We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be there after M5.
 After
  releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in our modules.
 
  Any other ideas?

 what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
 That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the current
 direction is, IMO

 Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or so ?

 Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT pattern is fine.
 I agree :-)

 -Matthias


 
  --Gurkan
 
  21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 yazdı:
 
  I agree with you.
 
  +1 on a new release.
 
  Minor things:
  -after the release, I feel we should not continue to use the
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
  Do you agree ?
 
  -Matthias
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu 
 gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3
 release.
  I want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most
 mature
  and covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
  issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of
 the
  next week.
  
   I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living
 as a
  TLP.
  
   WDYT?
  
   Thanks;
  
   --Gurkan
  
  
  
  ___
   Yahoo! Türkiye açıldı!  http://yahoo.com.tr
   İnternet üzerindeki en iyi içeriği Yahoo! Türkiye sizlere sunuyor!
 
 
 
  --
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  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 
 
 
  --
  Gurkan Erdogdu
  http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




-- 
Gurkan Erdogdu
http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com


Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
As I and Matthias said, there will be no M5. After releasing (1.0.0-M4), the
next release will be 1.0.0.

Matthias, I think it is reasonable to remove M5 from release. Just stick
with M4 and after that we can go ahead and release 1.0.0.

Therefore, next release will be 1.0.0-M4 and then final release will be
1.0.0. After M4 release, we continue to work on 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.

WDYT?

--Gurkan

2010/1/21 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de

 I'm not sure if we need a M5.

 Current code quality is already pretty fine and 1.0.0 from my understanding
 would mean being feature complete and (almost) passing the TCK. I would then
 go on and quarterly release 1.0.1, 1.0.2 as bugfix versions.

 So I'd say we should stick to 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:

  From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:46 AM
  2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
  I feel we should not continue to use the
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
  Do you agree ?
  
   * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
   * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
  
   We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be
  there after M5. After
   releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in
  our modules.
  
   Any other ideas?
 
  what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
  That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the
  current
  direction is, IMO
 
  Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or
  so ?
 
  Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT
  pattern is fine.
  I agree :-)
 
  -Matthias
 
 
  
   --Gurkan
  
   21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf
  mat...@apache.org
  yazdı:
  
   I agree with you.
  
   +1 on a new release.
  
   Minor things:
   -after the release, I feel we should not continue
  to use the
   1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
   Do you agree ?
  
   -Matthias
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu
  gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
Hi folks,
   
It has been lots of corrections and bug
  resolutions after our M3 release.
   I want to release M4 version, because current code
  base is  the most mature
   and covers lots of specification requirements. I
  would like to re-solve
   issues that we can do until weekend and create M4
  release beginning of the
   next week.
   
I am very happy that this will be the our
  first release while living as a
   TLP.
   
WDYT?
   
Thanks;
   
--Gurkan
   
   
   
   ___
Yahoo! Türkiye açıldı!  http://yahoo.com.tr
İnternet üzerindeki en iyi içeriği Yahoo!
  Türkiye sizlere sunuyor!
  
  
  
   --
   Matthias Wessendorf
  
   blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
   sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
   twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
  
  
  
  
   --
   Gurkan Erdogdu
   http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
  
 
 
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 






-- 
Gurkan Erdogdu
http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com


Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the current
direction is, IMO

 Yes, it is so reasonable. Actually M5 contains 2 bullets that we can move
 them to 1.0.0 release.

nice, sounds good.

 But as a common pattern with old releases, I want to
 releas e artifacts as 1.0.0-M5 instead of 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT.

Sure. Release like:
1.0.0-M3
1.0.0-M4
...

but current code (unreleased) in trunk, something like
1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT would make it nicer to understand, IMO.



 There is no road map other than one in OWB JIRA.(
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel
 )

Ok, perhaps we should write something down, on the website.
Perhaps I can get to it soon (or in the wiki)


 I will go ahead and remove M5 release this evening if no other objection.

that is fine with me. However, if the OWB project releases a 1.0.0 release,
it has to pass TCK by 100%

-Matthias


 Thanks;

 --Gurkan



 21 Ocak 2010 12:46 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org yazdı:

 2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
 I feel we should not continue to use the 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version
 number
 Do you agree ?
 
  * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
  * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
 
  We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be there after M5.
 After
  releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in our modules.
 
  Any other ideas?

 what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
 That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the current
 direction is, IMO

 Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or so ?

 Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT pattern is fine.
 I agree :-)

 -Matthias


 
  --Gurkan
 
  21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 yazdı:
 
  I agree with you.
 
  +1 on a new release.
 
  Minor things:
  -after the release, I feel we should not continue to use the
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
  Do you agree ?
 
  -Matthias
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu 
 gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3
 release.
  I want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most
 mature
  and covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve
  issues that we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of
 the
  next week.
  
   I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living
 as a
  TLP.
  
   WDYT?
  
   Thanks;
  
   --Gurkan
  
  
  
  ___
   Yahoo! Türkiye açıldı!  http://yahoo.com.tr
   İnternet üzerindeki en iyi içeriği Yahoo! Türkiye sizlere sunuyor!
 
 
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 
 
 
 
  --
  Gurkan Erdogdu
  http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
 



 --
 Matthias Wessendorf

 blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
 sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
 twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf




 --
 Gurkan Erdogdu
 http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com




-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
 As I and Matthias said, there will be no M5. After releasing (1.0.0-M4), the
 next release will be 1.0.0.

+1 TCK work is looking very good, so 1.0.0 is a reasonable target for
the release
after M4.


 Matthias, I think it is reasonable to remove M5 from release. Just stick
 with M4 and after that we can go ahead and release 1.0.0.

see my other mail. but basically yes.


 Therefore, next release will be 1.0.0-M4 and then final release will be
 1.0.0. After M4 release, we continue to work on 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.

1.0.1-SNAPSHOT (after the 1.0.0 is out) ;-)


 WDYT?

sounds good to me

-Matthias


 --Gurkan

 2010/1/21 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de

 I'm not sure if we need a M5.

 Current code quality is already pretty fine and 1.0.0 from my understanding
 would mean being feature complete and (almost) passing the TCK. I would then
 go on and quarterly release 1.0.1, 1.0.2 as bugfix versions.

 So I'd say we should stick to 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org wrote:

  From: Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Releasing M4
  To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org
  Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:46 AM
  2010/1/21 Gurkan Erdogdu cgurkanerdo...@gmail.com:
  I feel we should not continue to use the
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
  Do you agree ?
  
   * In released artifacts we  will use 1.0.0-M4.
   * After releasing M4, we still to continue  to use
  1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
  
   We have not reached our 1.0.0 release yet. We will be
  there after M5. After
   releasing 1.0.0, I think we will use 1.0.1-SNAPSHOT in
  our modules.
  
   Any other ideas?
 
  what about 1.0.0-M5-SNAPSHOT ?
  That makes it at least a little bit more obvious where the
  current
  direction is, IMO
 
  Regarding the 1.0.0 is out after M5, is there a roadmap or
  so ?
 
  Once the official 1.0.0 is out, using the 1.0.x-SNAPSHOT
  pattern is fine.
  I agree :-)
 
  -Matthias
 
 
  
   --Gurkan
  
   21 Ocak 2010 10:22 tarihinde Matthias Wessendorf
  mat...@apache.org
  yazdı:
  
   I agree with you.
  
   +1 on a new release.
  
   Minor things:
   -after the release, I feel we should not continue
  to use the
   1.0.0-SNAPSHOT version number
   Do you agree ?
  
   -Matthias
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu
  gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
Hi folks,
   
It has been lots of corrections and bug
  resolutions after our M3 release.
   I want to release M4 version, because current code
  base is  the most mature
   and covers lots of specification requirements. I
  would like to re-solve
   issues that we can do until weekend and create M4
  release beginning of the
   next week.
   
I am very happy that this will be the our
  first release while living as a
   TLP.
   
WDYT?
   
Thanks;
   
--Gurkan
   
   
   
   ___
Yahoo! Türkiye açıldı!  http://yahoo.com.tr
İnternet üzerindeki en iyi içeriği Yahoo!
  Türkiye sizlere sunuyor!
  
  
  
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   blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
   sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
   twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
  
  
  
  
   --
   Gurkan Erdogdu
   http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
  
 
 
 
  --
  Matthias Wessendorf
 
  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
  twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
 






 --
 Gurkan Erdogdu
 http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com




-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf


[DISCUSSION] Releasing M4

2010-01-20 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
Hi folks,

It has been lots of corrections and bug resolutions after our M3 release. I 
want to release M4 version, because current code base is  the most mature and 
covers lots of specification requirements. I would like to re-solve issues that 
we can do until weekend and create M4 release beginning of the next week.

I am very happy that this will be the our first release while living as a TLP.

WDYT?

Thanks;

--Gurkan


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