Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-10-18 Thread Ted Husted
As it turns out, I won't be attending ApacheCon myself this year. My
project is getting a very late start, and we'll need to make up for
lost time. (I'll be very heads-down in November and December). Also,
my training session was closed for insufficient attendance, so I'm
just going to stay here and work (for a change!).

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-26 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 9/22/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year.
>
> I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials
> scheduled earlier in the week.
>
> Is anyone else going to drop by this year?

I'll be there all week.

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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-24 Thread Ian Roughley

I was hoping to, but it looks like I will miss it.

/Ian

Ted Husted wrote:

I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year.

I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials
scheduled earlier in the week.

Is anyone else going to drop by this year?

How about the Monday/Tuesday Hackathon?

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-23 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/22/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year.


I'm expecting to be there, although I'm not yet signed up.

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I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials
> scheduled earlier in the week.
>
> Is anyone else going to drop by this year?
>
> How about the Monday/Tuesday Hackathon?
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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-22 Thread James Holmes
James Mitchell and I both live in Atlanta so we should be around.


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Subject: ApacheCon Roll Call


I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year.

I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials
scheduled earlier in the week.

Is anyone else going to drop by this year?

How about the Monday/Tuesday Hackathon?

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-22 Thread Dave Newton
I'll also be going; probably for the entire week.

d.

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> On 9/22/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was just wondering who was planning on attending
> ApacheCon this year.
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> > I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I
> have tutorials
> > scheduled earlier in the week.
> >
> > Is anyone else going to drop by this year?
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> > How about the Monday/Tuesday Hackathon?
> >
> > -Ted.
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Re: ApacheCon Roll Call

2007-09-22 Thread Matt Raible
I'll be there - I was planning on flying in Wednesday afternoon and
flyout out Friday afternoon.

Matt

On 9/22/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just wondering who was planning on attending ApacheCon this year.
>
> I know Don has a talk on the 15th, and Mark and I have tutorials
> scheduled earlier in the week.
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> Is anyone else going to drop by this year?
>
> How about the Monday/Tuesday Hackathon?
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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-27 Thread Alexandru Popescu ☀

On 4/27/07, Philip Luppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Would be useful, but limited to those who know/use WW, and I don't
think any of those three guys can make it to ApacheCon US.
A Struts 1 to Struts 2 topic, now thát's something entirely different
(damn, there goes my proposal).

Anyway, while I do applaud any attempt at getting more people to try
out S2, I'd like to see some more advanced topics like the talk Jason
gave at TSS 2005 [1].

I mean, for a somewhat intelligent developer, figuring out how S2
works, takes just a couple of minutes and one architectural overview.
They're probably already familiar with interceptors, actions and well,
results. Annotations, Ajax, etc .. is not that rare anymore in the
world of (java) web frameworks, and being able to build a blog from
scratch in 10 minutes is just .. well, not exciting anymore (note: I'm
not arguing about the usefulness - but that's information that I can
find on the web within 10 minutes, and not something I want to go to a
conference for).

I hope it are those intelligent developers we can win over, with
top-notch features, ease & speed of development, etc. They'll be
making the decision (or at least, that's what I hope) about what
framework to use for their next entreprise project. Leave the 10 min
blogs to the rails/PHP guys.

My 2 cents, not to be taken too seriously - it's friday after all,



Even if it is Friday, this is very well articulated :-).
Unfortunately, I must confess that I've rarely seen such sessions, and
this not because the presenter was not good enough but mainly because
a conference gather together people on different levels and you will
not like to loose the beginners. If you check the conference
programmes you'll notice that most of the topics are medium level, the
rest being beginner (and just a few advanced).

So, I guess for those top-notch developers we are left with the last
10-15 minutes opened for questions :-).

bests,

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[1] 
http://wiki.opensymphony.com/display/WW/Asynchronous+processing+with+WebWork+-+XWork

On 4/27/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One useful topic would be
>
> * WebWork 2 and Struts 2: What's the diff?
>
> If not for ApacheCon, then for the S2 docs :)
>
> -T.
>
> On 4/23/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
> > and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)
> >
> > I'm open to suggestions, though.
> >
> > Dave
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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-27 Thread Philip Luppens

Would be useful, but limited to those who know/use WW, and I don't
think any of those three guys can make it to ApacheCon US.
A Struts 1 to Struts 2 topic, now thát's something entirely different
(damn, there goes my proposal).

Anyway, while I do applaud any attempt at getting more people to try
out S2, I'd like to see some more advanced topics like the talk Jason
gave at TSS 2005 [1].

I mean, for a somewhat intelligent developer, figuring out how S2
works, takes just a couple of minutes and one architectural overview.
They're probably already familiar with interceptors, actions and well,
results. Annotations, Ajax, etc .. is not that rare anymore in the
world of (java) web frameworks, and being able to build a blog from
scratch in 10 minutes is just .. well, not exciting anymore (note: I'm
not arguing about the usefulness - but that's information that I can
find on the web within 10 minutes, and not something I want to go to a
conference for).

I hope it are those intelligent developers we can win over, with
top-notch features, ease & speed of development, etc. They'll be
making the decision (or at least, that's what I hope) about what
framework to use for their next entreprise project. Leave the 10 min
blogs to the rails/PHP guys.

My 2 cents, not to be taken too seriously - it's friday after all,

Phil

[1] 
http://wiki.opensymphony.com/display/WW/Asynchronous+processing+with+WebWork+-+XWork

On 4/27/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

One useful topic would be

* WebWork 2 and Struts 2: What's the diff?

If not for ApacheCon, then for the S2 docs :)

-T.

On 4/23/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
> and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)
>
> I'm open to suggestions, though.
>
> Dave

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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-27 Thread Ted Husted

One useful topic would be

* WebWork 2 and Struts 2: What's the diff?

If not for ApacheCon, then for the S2 docs :)

-T.

On 4/23/07, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)

I'm open to suggestions, though.

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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Dave Newton
--- Mark Menard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/23/07 1:03 PM, "Dave Newton" wrote:
> Hey, is that a back handed compliment? ;)

Sorta :) 

Part of the problem is that I find most of S2 fairly
intuitive (a very good thing) but that makes it harder
to know what people might want to know. You know?

> How about a full or half day training session? I'd
> be willing to help with one, but I don't really feel

> up to presenting it completely on my own.

That'd be a possibility. 

My original thoughts (besides interceptors) had
included something focusing on testing, including
view-layer with FreeMarker (avoiding
browser/HttpClient tests) or some of the type
conversion bits.

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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Ian Roughley

I would be up for a collaboration, if there are others that are interested.

/Ian

Mark Menard wrote:

On 4/23/07 1:03 PM, "Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

--- Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal
on s2 for ApacheCon this year?
  

I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)



Hey, is that a back handed compliment? ;)

  

I'm open to suggestions, though.



How about a full or half day training session? I'd be willing to help with
one, but I don't really feel up to presenting it completely on my own.

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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Mark Menard
On 4/23/07 1:03 PM, "Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal
>> on s2 for ApacheCon this year?
> 
> I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
> and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)

Hey, is that a back handed compliment? ;)

> I'm open to suggestions, though.

How about a full or half day training session? I'd be willing to help with
one, but I don't really feel up to presenting it completely on my own.

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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Dave Newton
--- Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal
> on s2 for ApacheCon this year?

I was going to, but I couldn't think of a good topic,
and Mark already took the only one I had thought of :)

I'm open to suggestions, though.

Dave


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Re: ApacheCon

2007-04-23 Thread Mark Menard
On 4/23/07 10:08 AM, "Ian Roughley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is anyone considering submitting a speaking proposal on s2 for ApacheCon
> this year?

I have submitted three, one on Struts 2 interceptors, the other two on
Struts 2 w/ Groovy, one a one hour intro, the other a half day training
session. (http://www.vitarara.org/cms/node/120)

Ted has also submitted a Migrating to Ajax full-day training session that
will touch on Struts, not sure which version though.
(http://jroller.com/page/TedHusted?entry=ac07rfp)

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-10-15 Thread Don Brown
My slides are up on the ApacheCon website: 
http://us.apachecon.com/html/archive.html


Don

Ted Husted wrote:

Don,

Are your slides posted anywhere? I thought we might do a followup
announcements with links.

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-10-15 Thread Ted Husted

Don,

Are your slides posted anywhere? I thought we might do a followup
announcements with links.

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-09-17 Thread Ted Husted

On 9/14/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've put us down for Thursday at 9pm. We can always update later if need be.


Unfortunately, I've developed a conflict and I will have to fly back
Wednesday morning. So I'll be there for most of the hackathon, but
none of the actual convention.

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-09-14 Thread Martin Cooper

On 9/14/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 8/24/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know where the BOF schedule is at? Do we want to schedule
> > a Struts BOF?
>
> It's here, such as it is right now:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherUS06
>
> It's not linked from the main ApacheCon US 2006 wiki page yet.

Any further thoughts on this?  It would be nice if it didn't conflict
with the Maven Community one. :)

How about Thursday night?  Any preference on 8 or 9 pm?  (Do we just
add it ourselves, or is someone coordinating?)



I've put us down for Thursday at 9pm. We can always update later if need be.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-09-14 Thread Wendy Smoak

On 8/24/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Does anyone know where the BOF schedule is at? Do we want to schedule
> a Struts BOF?

It's here, such as it is right now:

http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherUS06

It's not linked from the main ApacheCon US 2006 wiki page yet.


Any further thoughts on this?  It would be nice if it didn't conflict
with the Maven Community one. :)

How about Thursday night?  Any preference on 8 or 9 pm?  (Do we just
add it ourselves, or is someone coordinating?)

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Re: ApacheCon

2006-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper

On 9/6/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I know it's a little early for this, but I just purchased my
conference pass and plane ticket today (early discount ends soon).  I
arrive Sunday evening around 8 pm.

I'm going to try to stay with Don Brown if they give him a room with
2 beds, however, in case that doesn't work out, please keep your ears
open for anyone who may have a spare bed.  While free is always nice,
I'd settle for 1/2 price ;)



This is still empty, surprisingly, but you might want to keep an eye on it:

http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/RoomShares

Also, call me if anyone wants to hook up for a beer or three :D)


Well, duh! You should expect plenty of calls. ;-)

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-29 Thread Don Brown

I should have a spare bed.

Don

James Mitchell wrote:
I will be there.  Anyone interested in sharing a room (1/2 price is 
always better than full price) ?



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On Aug 25, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:


On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, my tutorial is on Monday,  Don's presentation is on Wednesday, and
ApacheCon runs through Friday.

Is anyone else coming out for the "Hackathon" days on Monday and 
Tuesday?


Yes, I'll be there all week.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-28 Thread James Mitchell
I will be there.  Anyone interested in sharing a room (1/2 price is  
always better than full price) ?



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On Aug 25, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:


On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So, my tutorial is on Monday,  Don's presentation is on Wednesday,  
and

ApacheCon runs through Friday.

Is anyone else coming out for the "Hackathon" days on Monday and  
Tuesday?


Yes, I'll be there all week.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-24 Thread Wendy Smoak

On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, my tutorial is on Monday,  Don's presentation is on Wednesday, and
ApacheCon runs through Friday.

Is anyone else coming out for the "Hackathon" days on Monday and Tuesday?


Yes, I'll be there all week.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-24 Thread Martin Cooper

On 8/24/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 7/27/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
> Migrating to Struts 2.

So, my tutorial is on Monday,  Don's presentation is on Wednesday, and
ApacheCon runs through Friday.

Is anyone else coming out for the "Hackathon" days on Monday and Tuesday?



I'm planning to, but not yet confirmed.

Does anyone know where the BOF schedule is at? Do we want to schedule

a Struts BOF?



It's here, such as it is right now:

http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BirdsOfaFeatherUS06

It's not linked from the main ApacheCon US 2006 wiki page yet.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-24 Thread Ted Husted

On 7/27/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
Migrating to Struts 2.


So, my tutorial is on Monday,  Don's presentation is on Wednesday, and
ApacheCon runs through Friday.

Is anyone else coming out for the "Hackathon" days on Monday and Tuesday?

Does anyone know where the BOF schedule is at? Do we want to schedule
a Struts BOF?

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-02 Thread Ted Husted

On 8/2/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'll be there.  How far off are we from rolling another s2 release?


Closer than October :)

Right now, I'm updating the MailReader to lose the aliases and exploit
wildcards and namespaces. We should also remove the aliases from
Showcase. (WW-1353)

WW-768 is a fairly serious issue, since duplicate IDs are not valid XHTML.

Under WW-1340, quite a few of the snippets seem to be broken.

-T.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-08-02 Thread James Mitchell

I'll be there.  How far off are we from rolling another s2 release?


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On Jul 28, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Don Brown wrote:

My "Struts 2.0" talk was accepted, and I believe James Mitchell has  
volunteered to join me on stage.  Now, if only we had a stable  
release to brag about... :)


Don

Ted Husted wrote:

ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
Migrating to Struts 2.
Is anyone else presenting about Struts this year?
-Ted.
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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-29 Thread Matt Raible

Yes, they should be posted sometime after I deliver them, in late
October/early November.  So Ted's might be posted before mine.

Matt

On 7/29/06, Frans Thamura @ Meruvian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Matt Raible wrote:
> I'll be doing a Struts 1 to Struts 2 Migration talk at Colorado
> Software Summit this year.  Possibly at Denver's No Fluff show too.
>
can I have all of your presentation, so we can use it here for our java
event?

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-29 Thread Frans Thamura @ Meruvian

Matt Raible wrote:

I'll be doing a Struts 1 to Struts 2 Migration talk at Colorado
Software Summit this year.  Possibly at Denver's No Fluff show too.

can I have all of your presentation, so we can use it here for our java 
event?


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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-28 Thread Matt Raible

I'll be doing a Struts 1 to Struts 2 Migration talk at Colorado
Software Summit this year.  Possibly at Denver's No Fluff show too.

http://softwaresummit.com/2006/speakers/raible.htm

Matt

On 7/27/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
Migrating to Struts 2.

Is anyone else presenting about Struts this year?

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-28 Thread Don Brown
My "Struts 2.0" talk was accepted, and I believe James Mitchell has volunteered 
to join me on stage.  Now, if only we had a stable release to brag about... :)


Don

Ted Husted wrote:

ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
Migrating to Struts 2.

Is anyone else presenting about Struts this year?

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-28 Thread tm jee
Good luck Ted. 

Will the tutorial be available online? Is it the mailreader example in struts 
university that you are planning to used?

regards. 

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Subject: ApacheCon 2006

ApacheCon US has accepted my offer to present a half-day tutorial on
Migrating to Struts 2.

Is anyone else presenting about Struts this year?

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Re: ApacheCon 2006

2006-07-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I wanted to, but unfortunately had other commits during that period.  
Good luck and let me know how it goes.


/Ian


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Re: ApacheCon Announcements

2005-12-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 12/2/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They are starting to ask for drafts of any announcements we'd like to
> make during ApacheCon.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for the current drafts?
>
> Here's my +1 for submitting these drafts to ApacheCon now. Others?


+1 ... let's hope they pay attention to the December 13 date, so that
"today" resolves correctly in the announcements about the talks :-).

-Ted.


Craig


Re: ApacheCon Announcements

2005-12-02 Thread Ted Husted
They are starting to ask for drafts of any announcements we'd like to
make during ApacheCon.

Does anyone have any suggestions for the current drafts?

Here's my +1 for submitting these drafts to ApacheCon now. Others?

-Ted.

On 12/2/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that we've had a chance to discuss the proposal, I added a draft
> announcement regarding the proposed merger to the new "DRAFTS.txt"
> file under struts/current/site.
>
> Any thoughts or comments on any of the announcements?
>
> As it turns out, Patrick will be joining us on Tuesday. 
>
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Re: ApacheCon Promos on Struts Home Page

2005-10-29 Thread Ted Husted
Oops, my bad.

Wendy fixed the XML last night, and I'm posting the updated page now.

It's just an ordinary section on the home page, nothing fancy.

-Ted.

On 10/28/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A casual look at the current source repository does not help me know how the
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" section is getting added, so I'll just report a couple of
> typos and let someone who knows point me at where I can fix them:
>
> * The session identifier for the "Struts 2006" session should be "TU20", not
> "T20".
>
> * In the description of the Shale session, my surname is misspelled
> (McClanahan, not McClannahan).
>
> Craig

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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/24/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/23/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My Shale talk got accepted as well.  As long as you're scheduled on
> > Monday or Tuesday (I have to fly out on Wednesday) I should be able to
> > join you.
>
> I ask if they can run them back to back. I expect that most folks
> interest in Struts 2006 would also want to attend Struts Shale, so we
> might as well try and make it easy for them.

Happily, the organizers were able to schedule the Struts talks
back-to-back, on Tuesday  13 December 2005 at 4:30p (TU20) and 5:30p
(TU26).  The slides for the Struts 2006 talk are available here:

* http://opensource2.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/STRUTS/Struts+2006

For more about ApacheCon US 2005, visit

http://apachecon.com/2005/US/

-Ted.
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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-24 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/23/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Shale talk got accepted as well.  As long as you're scheduled on
> Monday or Tuesday (I have to fly out on Wednesday) I should be able to
> join you.

I ask if they can run them back to back. I expect that most folks
interest in Struts 2006 would also want to attend Struts Shale, so we
might as well try and make it easy for them.

-Ted.

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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-24 Thread Ted Husted
Matter of fact, the slides for all of my talks are available online. 

* http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsUniversity

And, these would be no different :)

I'd also expect that we would make them available in advance. 

On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> May I encourage you to make some form of that talk available on the
> Struts website?  I think it would be very valuable.

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RE: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-24 Thread George.Dinwiddie
May I encourage you to make some form of that talk available on the
Struts website?  I think it would be very valuable.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:21 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego
> 
> 
> At the last minute, Don Brown and I put in for a Struts talk 
> for ApacheCon, which was accepted by the planners:
> 
> ---
> 
> Struts 2006: An embarrassment of riches
> 
> Apache Struts is a hotbed of activity. Struts Classic 1.3, 
> Struts Shale, Struts Ti, Struts OverDrive. Why so many 
> frameworks? How are they different? Why are they all called 
> Struts? Which is the best choice for my next project? In this 
> session, we step back and look at Struts through a wide-angle lense.

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[OT] RE: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-24 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Craig,

> My Shale talk got accepted as well.  As long as you're scheduled on
> Monday or Tuesday (I have to fly out on Wednesday) I should be able to
> join you.
> 
> Craig

Will it be a *tandem* talk with David Geary?

-Matthias

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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-23 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/23/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the last minute, Don Brown and I put in for a Struts talk for
> ApacheCon, which was accepted by the planners:
> 
> ---
> 
> Struts 2006: An embarrassment of riches
> 
> Apache Struts is a hotbed of activity. Struts Classic 1.3, Struts
> Shale, Struts Ti, Struts OverDrive. Why so many frameworks? How are
> they different? Why are they all called Struts? Which is the best
> choice for my next project? In this session, we step back and look at
> Struts through a wide-angle lense.
> 
> ---
> 
> If any of the other Struts committers make it out, I'm sure there'll
> be pleny of room on the podium. :)
> 

My Shale talk got accepted as well.  As long as you're scheduled on
Monday or Tuesday (I have to fly out on Wednesday) I should be able to
join you.

Craig

> For more about ApacheCon US 2005, visit [http://www.apachecon.com/].
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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-08-23 Thread Ted Husted
At the last minute, Don Brown and I put in for a Struts talk for
ApacheCon, which was accepted by the planners:

---

Struts 2006: An embarrassment of riches

Apache Struts is a hotbed of activity. Struts Classic 1.3, Struts
Shale, Struts Ti, Struts OverDrive. Why so many frameworks? How are
they different? Why are they all called Struts? Which is the best
choice for my next project? In this session, we step back and look at
Struts through a wide-angle lense.

---

If any of the other Struts committers make it out, I'm sure there'll
be pleny of room on the podium. :)

For more about ApacheCon US 2005, visit [http://www.apachecon.com/].

-Ted.

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[ot NET] was: Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-07-21 Thread netsql

Martin Cooper wrote:


This isn't the place for a discussion of it, but I'm curious as to what 
is so compelling about the .NET world that developers are moving to it 
even in the absence of the tools they are familiar with from the Java 
world, and especially when they are then expending the effort to 
recreate those tools. Why not stick to Java-land?






PHB! They like .NET. Otherwise it's equivalent. (And I don't think much 
of tools, I am not alone: 
http://www.hacknot.info/hacknot/action/showEntry?eid=76 , I do not use 
Visual Studio, yuck)
Rumor is that C# will be default for Gnome 3. Mono and GNU C# makes it 
more "human" plus it's an ANSI standard. LongHorn is a lot like Linux in 
the  security that's in compartments, IMO. If one uses Windows... it's a 
default.


Some Java tech also has a bit of reputation in some circles (EJB?, 
WebStart?, Cross-Platform/yeah right - try Swing on Mac; the non SQL 
aproach to projects,  ...).  Even as SPARC loses it's performance myth, 
and even stock at $3... it reflects on Java.
My latest stress is that Mustang JRE will be much bigger(and it's realy 
hard to bend Sun's ear, but I did send an email to m reynolds there) and 
it's becoming slowly less readable(anotations, parametizing, ...).
That's why I do Groovy too, to make it readable and less code. (google 
does Python... and it's all the rage to mimic their aproach)


If Sun would move to remove deprecated( omg packages still in JRE, go 
look) and simplify some things, (EJB 3 does not return collections, 
maybe V4 will) it would  help some technical argument , but it just 
seems that Sun have to much middle managment to not do design by 
comitte, so everyone gets their "feature" in at expense of elegance. 
(Struts and CoR are major simplifications; that is what sucess is imo)


(another ex?: DataSource in JDNC is realy sad ... they realy need to 
visit w/ developers that put things in production. MS listens to 
developers, that is their reputation. MS deprecated datasource as such 
in C#v2! )


I hope the best from Harmony, it's hard to do O/S w/o user input.

.V


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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-07-20 Thread Martin Cooper



On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Ted Husted wrote:


* http://apachecon.com/2005/US/

Anyone thinking of submitting proposals for Struts presentations?


I'm hoping to be able to attend, but I don't yet know for sure, and 
probably won't for a while. So no, I haven't thought about submitting 
anything.



Since it looks like we will have some kind of 1.3.x release in play,
perhaps we could do something about migrating from 1.2 to Struts 1.3.
(And, if nothing else, this would give us some incentive to ensure
there is a 1.3 GA by then.)


;-)


Or, perhaps, we could propose a general Struts RoadMap presentation
(or BOF), that would cover where ever we are, and wherever we are
going, come December :)

Or, maybe both, plus one about Shale, I'm sure :)

Here's three others I'm noodling, in case anyone wants to join in. The
more the merrier!



.NET @ ASF

Like it or not, many open source developers are moving to the
Microsoft .NET platform -- and we're bringing our favorite tools with
us! In this session, we overview the ASF projects that are creating
software for .NET and Mono -- Logging, iBATIS, Lucene, and Struts --
and show how our products work together to create leading-edge ASP.NET
applications.


This isn't the place for a discussion of it, but I'm curious as to what is 
so compelling about the .NET world that developers are moving to it even 
in the absence of the tools they are familiar with from the Java world, 
and especially when they are then expending the effort to recreate those 
tools. Why not stick to Java-land?





Mono: A kinder, gentler .NET?

Once upon a time, ASP was the dark-side of web development. Now, Mono
promises us a soup-to-nuts open source platform. In this session, we
explore writing cutting-edge applications for ASP.NET using open
source tools, like Mono, Subversion, MySQL, and SharpDevelop.



JIRA and Confluence: Better together?

JIRA is the issue tracking of choice for many ASF projects. But, what
happens when you add to the mix JIRA's sister product, the Confluence
wiki? In this session, we look at integrating JIRA and Confluence into
a seamless software development support system.


I'd be interested in the answer to the "what happens" question. ;-) We've 
been evaluating JIRA at my "day job", and I'm definitely impressed, to the 
point that I'd now be in favour of Struts moving to JIRA. If Confluence 
makes it even better, I'd like to know how, even if that's not likely to 
influence my "day job" (since we just switched wikis, and are not going to 
want to do that again any time soon).


--
Martin Cooper



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Re: ApacheCon 2005 SanDiego

2005-07-19 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 7/19/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * http://apachecon.com/2005/US/
> 
> Anyone thinking of submitting proposals for Struts presentations?
> 
> Since it looks like we will have some kind of 1.3.x release in play,
> perhaps we could do something about migrating from 1.2 to Struts 1.3.
> (And, if nothing else, this would give us some incentive to ensure
> there is a 1.3 GA by then.)
> 
> Or, perhaps, we could propose a general Struts RoadMap presentation
> (or BOF), that would cover where ever we are, and wherever we are
> going, come December :)
> 
> Or, maybe both, plus one about Shale, I'm sure :)
> 

The unfortunate part of this is the timing ... it partially overlaps
JavaPolis in Belgium, and the timing and travel to do both would be
quite interesting.  I'd like to if I can.

Craig

> Here's three others I'm noodling, in case anyone wants to join in. The
> more the merrier!
> 
> 
> 
> .NET @ ASF
> 
> Like it or not, many open source developers are moving to the
> Microsoft .NET platform -- and we're bringing our favorite tools with
> us! In this session, we overview the ASF projects that are creating
> software for .NET and Mono -- Logging, iBATIS, Lucene, and Struts --
> and show how our products work together to create leading-edge ASP.NET
> applications.
> 
> 
> 
> Mono: A kinder, gentler .NET?
> 
> Once upon a time, ASP was the dark-side of web development. Now, Mono
> promises us a soup-to-nuts open source platform. In this session, we
> explore writing cutting-edge applications for ASP.NET using open
> source tools, like Mono, Subversion, MySQL, and SharpDevelop.
> 
> 
> 
> JIRA and Confluence: Better together?
> 
> JIRA is the issue tracking of choice for many ASF projects. But, what
> happens when you add to the mix JIRA's sister product, the Confluence
> wiki? In this session, we look at integrating JIRA and Confluence into
> a seamless software development support system.
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Re: ApacheCon

2004-10-14 Thread Craig McClanahan
The hackathon is typically a conference room at the hotel where
ApacheCon will be held, and offers an opportunity for committers on
the various Apache projects to get together and hack on code face to
face, or otherwise get to know each other better.  Historically it's
been held on the Saturday and Sunday before the conference (which
starts on a Monday).

Craig


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:08:40 -0700, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm hoping to be at ApacheCon for the first time this year, and still
> trying to figure out what the Hackathon is all about. ;-)
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
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> > Any Struts committers planning on attending ApacheCon?  If so, how about
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> > over these "roadmap" ideas being brought up.
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Re: ApacheCon

2004-10-14 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, I'll be there.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:20:56 -0700, Don Brown wrote:
> Any Struts committers planning on attending ApacheCon?  If so, how
> about the Hackathon?  I'll be there and am anxious to have lively
> discussions over these "roadmap" ideas being brought up.
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Re: ApacheCon

2004-10-13 Thread Martin Cooper
I'm hoping to be at ApacheCon for the first time this year, and still
trying to figure out what the Hackathon is all about. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:20:56 -0700, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any Struts committers planning on attending ApacheCon?  If so, how about
> the Hackathon?  I'll be there and am anxious to have lively discussions
> over these "roadmap" ideas being brought up.
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Re: ApacheCon

2004-10-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
Unfortunately, I had scheduling conflicts so I'm going to miss this one :-(.

Craig



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> Any Struts committers planning on attending ApacheCon?  If so, how about
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> over these "roadmap" ideas being brought up.
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