Re: [digitalradio] mfj 1278
I think you might be confusing baud rate with frequency shift. Not the same. In entering the mode, you can enter mode,(selectables). For instance, for HF RTTY you can select difference baud rates, so you might enter MODE HB,45 or MODE HB,75 But for HF packet there are no selectables, so you just enter MODE HP Your baud rate will be 300, and your frequency shift will be 200 HZ because the modem is (or should be) tuned to 2110/2310. Your dial frequency will be different from when you use a TNC with 1600/1800 tones, but since the shift is the same, the decoding should work just fine. Another thing is...are you sure the TNC is staying in KISS mode? MFJ is notorious for jumping out of KISS mode. I have an early MFJ 1278 that absolutely will not stay in KISS mode when doing HF packet. Works fine in all other modes, but not in HF packet. I have a newer model that works just fine, so you can get different results from different models. MFJ says if you have that problem, try entering $C0, $FD,$C0 Didn't work for me, but apparently it does for some since it is in their manual. 73 Mark KQ0I --- On Sat, 6/12/10, Quentin Falkenbury wrote: From: Quentin Falkenbury Subject: [digitalradio] mfj 1278 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 9:35 AM Hi All I aquired a 1278 in good condition now i wish to use it on hf packet i do not have the mfjcom software however i am able to converse with it using winpack in terminal mode.Now i set it for hf packet with the Mode HP,300,H Command---The final H being for the 200hz shift modem.And all works fine Except when i put it in Kiss Mode it drops the 200hz modem and goes with its default which dosen"t work for me or does not seem to anyway.Anyone have any thoughts? 73 Quentin
Re: [digitalradio] HF automated sub-bands ?
§97.221 Automatically controlled digital station. (a) This rule section does not apply to an auxiliary station, a beacon station, a repeater station, an earth station, a space station, or a space telecommand station. (b) A station may be automatically controlled while transmitting a RTTY or data emission on the 6 m or shorter wavelength bands, and on the 28.120-28.189 MHz, 24.925-24.930 MHz, 21.090-21.100 MHz, 18.105- 18.110 MHz, 14.0950-14.0995 MHz, 14.1005-14.112 MHz, 10.140-10.150 MHz, 7.100-7.105 MHz, or 3.585-3.600 MHz segments. (c) A station may be automatically controlled while transmitting a RTTY or data emission on any other frequency authorized for such emission types provided that: (1) The station is responding to interrogation by a station under local or remote control; and (2) No transmission from the automatically controlled station occupies a bandwidth of more than 500 Hz. --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Andy obrien wrote: > From: Andy obrien > Subject: [digitalradio] HF automated sub-bands ? > To: "digitalradio" > Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:01 AM > I have seen mention of " automated > sub-bands" for USA amateurs > recently but cannot find a definitive source as to what > those > sub-bands are. Anyone ? > > Andy. > > > > > Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental > digital modes = > 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on > waterfall. > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw
Not quite true...MultiPSK does have the KISS option, but it has a glitch in it so that it passes unacceptable information back to the BBS at the ending of a message. Patrick will no doubt get around to fixing this but there is little demand for it as compared to other mods he is making to the program. 73 Mark KQ0I --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Charles Brabham wrote: From: Charles Brabham Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New version of Mixw To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 7:51 PM MixW has the vitual KISS TNC option that other programs lack. This allows you to use MixW's AX25 modes ( Packet, Q15x25 ) with any software that looks for a KISS TNC. In my case, I run MixW as a KISS HF Packet TNC with waterfall display in the same computer with G8BPQ node software ( BPQ32 ) and F6FBB BBS software ( WinFBB32) . While the BBS runs, I can bring up RX windows in any MixW supported mode in order to copy other signals in the passband. You can see a screenshot of this setup running at: http://n5pvl.rgvham.com/stxbbs/screen.htm No other multimode software offers the vitual KISS TNC option - unfortunately. 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Re: [digitalradio] HF 300 baud Packet?
There is store and forward activity on 20, 30 and 40. What would you like to know? 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Hal wrote: > From: Hal > Subject: [digitalradio] HF 300 baud Packet? > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:57 AM > > Greetings: Any activity HF 300 baud Packet; 30M or > 20M--BBS??? TIA. > > -- > > Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCH > UNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3 > . > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, > FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
I'm on 14.109 and seeing some background stuff but not copying anybody. 73 Mark KQ0I --- On Mon, 2/9/09, John Bradley wrote: From: John Bradley Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:19 PM if you are using MixW have a look at http://www.wattystuff.net/amateur/packet/q15x25setup.htm for setup info I also have VE5GPM up on 14109 so try it might be better. band conditions not great John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Brown Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:08 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: "John Becker, WØJAB" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: >John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. > >I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . > >Howard K5HB
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
We have been talking about using Q15x25 but it turns out to be more talk than doing so we haven't really done much. I think it's quite possible using FBB or MSYS and then using MixW as the TNC. That way you have the error correction of the bbs program and the ability to vary the Q15x25 for a wider or more narrow transmission. Actually, I think 300 baud does quite well. Of course it is slow, but that is a term relative to your expectations. It is now 2 PM here and I have taken in over 20 messages and have forwarded 35 out today on 40 meters and there are probably five or six more hours of forwarding time before the band closes up between myself and my forwarding partners. That is pretty good, I think. Mark --- On Thu, 2/5/09, "José A. Amador" wrote: > From: "José A. Amador" > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF packet > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 12:32 PM > I believe that nowadays 110 baud (or 100 baud) should fare > better. > > Sadly, PAX only passes unproto in Multipsk as modem (but > maybe UI > packets are enough for TCPIP) > > I would have to reinstall JNOS and try with Multipsk. > > 73, > > Jose, CO2JA > > Mark Milburn escribió: > > No...I was thinking of his actually using the program > to connect to a BBS. I should have made that clear. > > 73 Mark > > > > > > > VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro > de Energía y Educación Energética > 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones > ...Por una cultura energética sustentable > www.ciercuba.com > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
No...I was thinking of his actually using the program to connect to a BBS. I should have made that clear. 73 Mark --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Jose A. Amador wrote: > From: Jose A. Amador > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF packet > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:23 PM > Mark Milburn wrote: > > > if you want to dig in a little deeper, you may need to > download and > > install a program that decodes compressed packets. > > > > If I can be helpful, let me know how. > > > > 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA > > Mark, > > Do you know any program that does that, on the fly and on > the air? > > I was a long time FBB Sysop and I could not copy anything > but the > header, the rest was all garbled, if it was in unnconnected > state. > I was the sysop of CO2JA.#HAV.CUB.NA, CO2BQQ.#HAV.CUB.NA > (later CO9BQQ) > and CO2BSS.#HAV.CUB.NA. > > Just curious, > > Jose, CO2JA > > > > VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro > de Energía y Educación Energética > 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones > ...Por una cultura energética sustentable > www.ciercuba.com > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
n when I saw the waterfall, immediately realized > that it had > to be around 1700 center frequency with 200 Hz shift. I > have noticed a > great deal of variation when attempting to monitor packet > and it > surprises me that everyone is not within a few Hz since it > would make > the situation even worse! I have rigs that are mostly TCXO > controlled so > can be quite close. Even our ICOM IC-7000's have it. > > Is the purpose of your network to do RF forwarding and then > go into some > local VHF network? We used to have a very extensive system > here about a > decade ago but all of that is completely gone. Some nodes > are still > used, but were converted to APRS as I understand it. > > What software do you recommend to decode? Is this something > you use on > the fly or after you collect some data? Maybe there is no > sound card > based technology available? > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > Mark Milburn wrote: > > Hi Rick... > > > > The bands were pretty awrful this morning so I > wasn't hearing a whole lot myself. It will get better > this afternoon and I'm thinking it will be much better > tomorrow. Wisconsin is always a tough haul from Iowa, it > seems, but you will be hearing everything better this > afternoon. > > > > The frequency I gave you is very approximate, since > radios seem to vary widely in their accuracy, and is based > on the most usual TNC setting of 1600-1800 HZ. Some TNCs > have different tones, but most are set at 1600-1800. > > > > One other caveat...since we are doing forwarding of > bulletins, the bulk of the transmission are in FBB > compatible compression, so unless you are using a BBS > program such as FBB or MSYS, you will be seeing compressed > characters with only some titles sent in clear English. > That may serve to get you what you want, or if you want to > dig in a little deeper, you may need to download and install > a program that decodes compressed packets. > > > > If I can be helpful, let me know how. > > > > 73 Mark KQ0I > > Des Moines, IA > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
One other thing...on 7100.5, one of our key stations is still off the air because of his antennas being ravaged by the ice storms through his area. That is KBOFD in Missouri. Once he is back you should be able to hear him very well most of the day. 723 Mark --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Rick W wrote: > From: Rick W > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF packet > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 12:31 PM > Hi Mark, > > I tuned to your recommended frequencies and although heard > some packet, > it was rare to decode much. I did copy KC2GMM and WD9EKA > and your call > in there over a few hours, but not much else. That was on > 7100.5. > > My question is what is your actual frequency, or at least > the audio > frequency and shift. From what I could tell, on 7100.5 the > frequency was > centered around 1700 (1600-1800 Hz tones with 200 Hz shift > perhaps?). > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > Mark Milburn wrote: > > Our group does packet forwarding 24/7 on: > > 14.098 LSB, 10.147 LSB, 7103.5 LSB and 7100.5 LSB. > He's welcome to > > decode it all, and also welcome to join us if he would > like. > > 73 Mark KQ0I > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
Hi Rick... The bands were pretty awrful this morning so I wasn't hearing a whole lot myself. It will get better this afternoon and I'm thinking it will be much better tomorrow. Wisconsin is always a tough haul from Iowa, it seems, but you will be hearing everything better this afternoon. The frequency I gave you is very approximate, since radios seem to vary widely in their accuracy, and is based on the most usual TNC setting of 1600-1800 HZ. Some TNCs have different tones, but most are set at 1600-1800. One other caveat...since we are doing forwarding of bulletins, the bulk of the transmission are in FBB compatible compression, so unless you are using a BBS program such as FBB or MSYS, you will be seeing compressed characters with only some titles sent in clear English. That may serve to get you what you want, or if you want to dig in a little deeper, you may need to download and install a program that decodes compressed packets. If I can be helpful, let me know how. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Rick W wrote: > From: Rick W > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF packet > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 12:31 PM > Hi Mark, > > I tuned to your recommended frequencies and although heard > some packet, > it was rare to decode much. I did copy KC2GMM and WD9EKA > and your call > in there over a few hours, but not much else. That was on > 7100.5. > > My question is what is your actual frequency, or at least > the audio > frequency and shift. From what I could tell, on 7100.5 the > frequency was > centered around 1700 (1600-1800 Hz tones with 200 Hz shift > perhaps?). > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > Mark Milburn wrote: > > Our group does packet forwarding 24/7 on: > > 14.098 LSB, 10.147 LSB, 7103.5 LSB and 7100.5 LSB. > He's welcome to > > decode it all, and also welcome to join us if he would > like. > > 73 Mark KQ0I > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked > Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF packet
Our group does packet forwarding 24/7 on:
14.098 LSB, 10.147 LSB, 7103.5 LSB and 7100.5 LSB. He's welcome to decode it
all, and also welcome to join us if he would like.
73 Mark KQ0I
--- On Wed, 2/4/09, barry whittemore wrote:
From: barry whittemore
Subject: [digitalradio] HF packet
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:31 AM
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A friend is looking to experiment with HF packet 300 Baud and hasnt had much
luck finding any. He only wants to decode off the air for now. are there any
freqs that he could listen to that would have some to decode. certain times etc?
Thanks
Barry
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Re: [digitalradio] signalink
Just to be sure...you are aware that there are different mode settings for MT 63, and that not all MT 63s are alike? 73 Mark KQ0I --- Raymond Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yaesu FT-840.Using cables they sent with the > signalink.Trying to send MT-63. > The system goes into transmit as it should but the > text at the other end is non- > legible,all mixed up makes no sense all in lower > Case,no carriage return,etc. > Running about 100 watts. > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Fred VE3FAL > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am using 3 of them and have had no problems at > all. > > Please tell us your setup, rigs, cables etc > > > > Fred > > VE3FAL > > > > -Original Message- > > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Raymond Lunsford > > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:40 PM > > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [digitalradio] signalink > > > > Does anyone have experience with a signalink?I > can't get mine to > > transmit clear legible information? > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista
I guess that was it it...seems to work fine now, Patrick. I would have sworn I tried all that before, but evidently not. Thanks for the help. I love your program. 73 Mark --- Patrick Lindecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Mark, > > > touch anything at all while running the program, > it > > mutes my line in. Strange. Fldigi seems to work > fine > You must have chosen the "Software adjustment" in > the Mixer menu of the > Configuration screen (the "Line in" is muted in the > mixer Volume menu but, > of course not, in the mixer Recording menu). So > switch to "User adjustment". > > 73 > Patrick > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista > > > > Works with some and not well with others. MixW > works > > just fine for me, MultiPSK doesn't work well. If > I > > touch anything at all while running the program, > it > > mutes my line in. Strange. Fldigi seems to work > fine > > but I haven't given it much of a workout yet. > > 73 Mark > > > > > > --- Lew Cason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have had no problems with Vista and sound card > >> programs > >> > >> Lew > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Tony > >> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:19 AM > >> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and > Vista > >> > >> > >> Bert, > >> > >> > I am in the market for a new laptop that will > be > >> use for ham radio > >> > software such as PSK 31. I been told that > Vista > >> OS may not work with > >> > the sound card programs. > >> > KD7Jeh Bert > >> > >> Had some trouble with the digital voice program > >> FDMDV. All was fine after > >> the author modified the program for Vista. > >> Everything else works fine. > >> > >> Good luck with your new machine... > >> > >> Tony, K2MO > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "kd7jeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:35 PM > >> Subject: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista > >> > >> > Hello to the group, > >> > > >> > I am in the market for a new laptop that will > be > >> use for ham radio > >> > software such as PSK 31. I been told that > Vista > >> OS may not work with > >> > the sound card programs. > >> > > >> > Is this true? I would like to hear from you > >> Vista owners good and > >> > bad. I would like to know what laptop brand > your > >> using. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > KD7Jeh Bert > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > > > 30M digital activity at > http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m > > > > Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, > Winwarbler ,MMVARI. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > 30M digital activity at > http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m > > Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, > Winwarbler ,MMVARI. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista
Works with some and not well with others. MixW works just fine for me, MultiPSK doesn't work well. If I touch anything at all while running the program, it mutes my line in. Strange. Fldigi seems to work fine but I haven't given it much of a workout yet. 73 Mark --- Lew Cason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had no problems with Vista and sound card > programs > > Lew > - Original Message - > From: Tony > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:19 AM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista > > > Bert, > > > I am in the market for a new laptop that will be > use for ham radio > > software such as PSK 31. I been told that Vista > OS may not work with > > the sound card programs. > > KD7Jeh Bert > > Had some trouble with the digital voice program > FDMDV. All was fine after > the author modified the program for Vista. > Everything else works fine. > > Good luck with your new machine... > > Tony, K2MO > > - Original Message - > From: "kd7jeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:35 PM > Subject: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista > > > Hello to the group, > > > > I am in the market for a new laptop that will be > use for ham radio > > software such as PSK 31. I been told that Vista > OS may not work with > > the sound card programs. > > > > Is this true? I would like to hear from you > Vista owners good and > > bad. I would like to know what laptop brand your > using. > > > > Thanks > > > > KD7Jeh Bert > > > > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] TNC Suggestion Requested
You might want to look into using MultiPSK. The author has recently added a feature to his program which allows it to be used as a TNC emulation. MixW also has this feature, but registration costs are fairly high. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- Sam Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering buying a new TNC for portable emcomm > station use. > I have a KAMplus and a plain old KAM, but guess I > should upgrade. > Without an ear-splitting yell of "SCS", what are the > suggestions for me? > *IF* the SCS is the *ONLY* one I should consider, > which model?? > I do have USB and serial ports available on my > portable computer. > Running WinXP-Pro. Yaesu FT-857D and FT-2800M > Feeling depressed about parting with that much > money... more than my > xcvr. Want something that will last a while. Can't > afford to upgrade > every couple of years. > TNX > > Sam Cook, Milan, MO > Amateur Extra Class Radio Station ACØOK > ARES Official Emergency Station, Sullivan Co., MO > Military Affiliate Radio System (MARS) AAR7AO > FEMA IS-00100.a Certified > = > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive > Sked Page at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > 30M digital activity at > http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m > > Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, > Winwarbler ,MMVARI. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] New user assistance
Have you tried opening up the Donner interface? There is a limited amount of reduction by adjusting the control inside the box. Also, what software are you using? MixW has a control built into the software that will reduce the output and probably some of the other software programs have such a configuration control as well. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, Iowa --- wd4elg_base <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Friend of mine is using Ten-Tec Paragon, Donner > interface and HP Brio > PC. Already tried tinkering with volume control and > mic gain, still > looks like a distorted waveform when transmitting on > air. > > Anyone with experience, please advise. Thanks, > > Mark Lunday, WD4ELG > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [digitalradio] Te-Tec Jupiter
I'm no expert on these things, but I use a Jupiter and it does quite well. I have used it with MixW, MultiPSK, Digipan and Zakanaka and no problems at all except the usual fussiness about getting the audio input adjusted right. I use it regularly for HF packet forwarding with MixW as the TNC and it really shines. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, Iowa --- Walt DuBose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone on the list using a Ten-Tec Juliter? > > If so, I would be interested in its performance on > sound card digital modes. > > Tnx & 73, > > Walt/K5YFW > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?
No, I don't have such a map. I agree it would be a good thing. If you are interested you might contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get the net listings showing the stations in each net. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, Ia --- kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have a regularly updated coverage -- and gaps > -- > map online? > > I believe that if enough Hams knew where the gaps > were, and how they might assist in filling the gaps, > we could restore this wireless network (sort of a > Ham Internet). > > It is not a question of if but when the Internet > is attacked, via a natural event (earthquake) or > man-made (terrorist). Having a nationwide wireless > network (with some redundancies and rerouting we > could provide a critical service in disaster > response. > > Satellites are imagined to be reliable but are > vulnerable to energy spikes from the sun and to > human attack (the Chinese have been developing > satellite-killer technologies for two decades). > > I seem to recall 2M as the core of Packet, are 6M > and 10M used much? There are tons of rigs being > dumped on the market as public service agencies > move to the newest Motorola (and other mfg) pie-in- > the-sky technologies. We will have to backstop > those fragile infrastructures eventually so why > not do it partially using their old gear? :-) > > -- > > Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E > ~~ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?
And that is how this discussion started. There is already a framework for that kind of communication. It is now operating. Check out 14.098 LSB, 10.147 LSB, 10.141 LSB, 7105.USB , or 7100.5 LSB and you will see "skipnets" operating by radio only, using 300 baud, fully frequency flexible in case of emergency need, and handling bulletin and personal messages every day. We are not short of the framework for such a system...just people that wish to keep it alive. But the lure of the internet makes it seem too much work and too slow, so the framework erodes. I remember when I first started in message handling lo those many years ago, the thing that struck me was the saying that it wasn't the message that was important, it was exercising the system. That is still true. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, Iowa --- John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with Bill, there is a need for a short haul > message system such as winlink, or a 300baud system > which could work into an internet gateway > For example, an area hit with tornado or other > natural disaster which would disable the internet in > the immediate area. > > This should work on HF since there may be instances > where the gap may be several hundred miles, so 80/40 > would work. > In our part of north America, sparsley populated > this could be a very real need. > > John > VE5MU > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?
My view would be that any change to the packet RADIO system to utilize the internet was a step in the direction of eliminating it altogether. The value of packet radio is the emphasis on the radio part. Once you say the system would be more useful if the end result was email, then why utilize radios at all? Just email the person you want to contact. But that's just my personal opinion and it is obviously out of step with the prevailing view. I like CW too, so I guess I'm just stuck in some previous time zone. That happens to us older guys...hi. Have a good one today. 72/73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is too bad that packet could not have advanced > with new technology to > make it work well on HF. In order for it to be able > to work under many > conditions, it needed to have the agility to change > baud rates/packet > sizes to match those conditions and it was really > only designed for VHF > and for something very close to the MUF on HF. > > The other problem seemed to be that when the > internet moved to e-mail > routing, the hierarchy system of packet was much > less useful since it > could only go to a home bbs. If they could have > extended the system to > work with e-mail too, you would have had a system > that had some real value. > > As it stands now, there is no system out there that > uses amateur radio > links to get to other hams since the shutting down > of the old Winlink > system which only used amateur radio links and > replacing it with the > mostly internet based Winlink 2000 system. So we > have gone from one > extreme to another with no balanced approach that I > think is needed so > we have access to the best of both worlds. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?
Hi Rick.. You understand it exactly right. There are a few HF users, but most of the product of our efforts are VHF stations running bulletin boards who receive the messages by VHF nodes which are part of the HF packet station setup. We're just a bunch of stubborn folks who think that packet radio ought to be done by radio. When the hop-skip-jump of the early years of packet radio started going away because antenna sites were lost and nodes were not maintained, HF radio started replacing the VHF links where possible. It is (IMHO) a losing battle we are waging, but since internet packet has not developed a routing system to deliver personal messages it has a huge flaw in it, in my thinking at least. The internet users say just don't send personals, send your message as a bulletin. But that defeats the purpose in my view and makes it less attractive. On the other hand, internet has some advantages...speed and ability to send larger messages. It's all in your point of view. I started out with packet back in the early years and loved it, and still love the system that will allow me to read bulletins, but also to reply with a personal question or comment where appropriate...and also to send personal messages to friends I have developed over the years. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > Something I never really understood is what is the > HF packet network > was actually doing. You mentioned that mail is not > done much anymore, > but bulletins are. Who can connect to the system to > receive the data or > are you feeding it via HF to local VHF packet BBS > systems? > > In the past was it the primary purpose of the HF > part of packet to > forward to the VHF BBS's or were (are) there > stations who get this > directly off of the HF connection? > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?
I think so, but probably none of the ones I am involved with unless there are prior arrangements. I know any of our guys would be glad to help you with a demonstration, but the question would be who you could connect with at the time of the presentation. I think there are some guys that hang around 14.105 that do keyboard stuff but I have never worked with them personally so I can't tell you too much about them or what it would take to get into their BBS. We handle quite a bit of bulletin traffic, but not too much personal mail any more. The internet guys have gotten into the business in a big way and they have no way to route personal mail so much of that kind of mail dies and the resulting frustration on the part of senders has caused almost the death of personal mail by packet unless you know the routes in advance. Sending it is easy...getting it delivered is very "iffy". I would be glad to help with your demo if we could determine a frequency and a time that would allow the connection. 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, IA --- Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are any open to non BBS operators? I'm doing a > presenation soon > about packet without a TNC and just wondered if > old-fashioned packet > email at 300 baud was still an option when all else > fails ? > > Andy K3UK > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mark Milburn > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Oh my yes. There are a number of us. Listen in > on > > 7.100.5 LSB, 7105.0 USB, 10.147 LSB, 10.141 LSB , > or > > 14.098 LSB. Normally these stations are only open > to > > other BBS stations so you would have to get hold > of > > them to set up forwarding privileges. > > If you are interested in BBS operations, you could > > send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or perhaps I could help > > with questions? > > 73 Mark KQ0I > > Des Moines, Iowa > > > > --- Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know the call sign and frequency of > any > > > HF 300 Baud Packet > > > BBS stations that one might be able to connect > to? > > > Do they still > > > exist? > > > > > > -- > > > Andy K3UK > > > Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 > > > www.obriensweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX > Cluster > > > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > > > > > Our other groups: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > __ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from > Yahoo! Answers users. > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [digitalradio] HF Packet BBS?
Oh my yes. There are a number of us. Listen in on 7.100.5 LSB, 7105.0 USB, 10.147 LSB, 10.141 LSB , or 14.098 LSB. Normally these stations are only open to other BBS stations so you would have to get hold of them to set up forwarding privileges. If you are interested in BBS operations, you could send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or perhaps I could help with questions? 73 Mark KQ0I Des Moines, Iowa --- Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know the call sign and frequency of any > HF 300 Baud Packet > BBS stations that one might be able to connect to? > Do they still > exist? > > -- > Andy K3UK > Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 > www.obriensweb.com > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
Re: [digitalradio] Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
Well, I am not now running digital on my 580, but I did before I got the
Jupiter. Worked like a charm. Now the 580 lurks in the background,
hoping for the day it can return.
73 Mark
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[digitalradio] Interface kits
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