Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Uwe Altmann]

Hi Alex, *

Am 11.06.11 11:28, schrieb Alexander Thurgood:
> Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really
> understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the  owners of
> Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile.

Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never with OOo) - it was one
of the "Add-Ons" Star Office had (besides more Gallery entries,
templates and better spell checking then OOo) in former times. "In
former times" refers to OOo 1.* when OOo has no "official" (=Sun/Star
Office) Version for Macs; so Adabas connection/driver never had a need
for Mac support by Sun.
Meanwhile Adabas is a legacy product. I wonder if anyone uses it in a
productive environment. Surely not on a Mac.

As has been said - whoever need this can stick on an older OOo Version.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

[adept techlists - kazar]

Christoph Noack wrote:

Quite some time ago, I defined the corresponding behavior so that it
matches which the today's notes.

The visual design:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_Design_NoteAnchor#Proposal_.22Boxes_.28Note_Anchor_Area.29.22

The behavior when inserting notes / editing text:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes_Design_WorkingWithNotes#Proposed_Designs

perfect. Not a developer (so what  good am i :-)) but I can say, these 
mockups represent what is really needed.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

[adept techlists - kazar]

Charles Jenkins 
June 10, 2011 2:03 PM



Truly, I beg you to add comment ranges in LibreOffice so I can stop
using Word altogether for writing.
I concur. Not only for writer/editor situations, but for all kinds of 
scenarios in which humans need to collaborate on a document. The key 
roadblock for using LibreOffice when I head up a team is exactly the 
need for a feature that makes it possible to mark off the text about 
which one is commenting.


Charles really made the case.

kazar

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

[Christoph Noack]

Hi Charles, hi Cor!

Am Samstag, den 11.06.2011, 01:50 +0200 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Charles Jenkins wrote (10-06-11 20:03)
> > In LibreOffice, it appears that comments always have zero length.
> 
> I would have sworn I had seen it with a selection somewhere.
> But maybe it only was on the old OOo wiki (1) about the notes feature?

True, so called "Notes Anchors" are currently special (invisible)
characters being embedded in the text. Sadly, there is no "Notes Anchor
Area" ... although (as fas as I now) ODF would support that.

Quite some time ago, I defined the corresponding behavior so that it
matches which the today's notes.

The visual design:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_Design_NoteAnchor#Proposal_.22Boxes_.28Note_Anchor_Area.29.22

The behavior when inserting notes / editing text:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes_Design_WorkingWithNotes#Proposed_Designs

By the way, the current Note Anchors really need some improvement ... so
if there is any developer willing to work on that. That would be
awesome! I'm happy to help (with the non-developer tasks *g*).

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote:

> > As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is
> > proprietary crippleware at best.
> > There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database
> > engine.
> 
> Then perhaps the driver should be updated to support Adabas 8.2?
> 

It can't be: the driver is for "Adabas D" and Adabas (no D) is a different
product.

> The Community Edition is version 6.1.8.

This "Community Edition" is an old, crippled version of the "Adabas D"
product.
Apart from the name, it has nothing to do with the real Adabas database;
according to Wikipedia, Software AG bought the engine from a different
company and renamed it in the 1990s.

The PDF fact sheet on
http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp
is dated from 2007 and includes a reference to Adabas D 14; with such a
version gap 4 years ago, I can't help believing the "community version"
has been abandoned ...

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[NoOp]

On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote:
>> 
>> I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I
>> can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source:
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948
> 
> I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment, I don't see the point in
> keeping the library driver.

Valid point. I seem to recall that I installed it with StarOffice.

> 
> As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is
> proprietary crippleware at best.
> There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database
> engine.

Then perhaps the driver should be updated to support Adabas 8.2?


The Community Edition is version 6.1.8.

> 
> Please note that even if the native Adabas D driver is disabled, you can
> still use the database engine with the JDBC or the ODBC driver:
> 
> http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1514/ineteng/chapter6.htm
> http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1513/unxuseng/uxodbc.htm
> 

Thanks.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> 
> I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I
> can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948

I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment, I don't see the point in
keeping the library driver.

As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is
proprietary crippleware at best.
There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database
engine.

Please note that even if the native Adabas D driver is disabled, you can
still use the database engine with the JDBC or the ODBC driver:

http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1514/ineteng/chapter6.htm
http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1513/unxuseng/uxodbc.htm

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[NoOp]

On 06/11/2011 11:02 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote:
>> On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
>> > 
>> > I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers 
>> > list
>> > and try to disable the Adabas D driver.
>> 
>> Please don't.
>> 
>> $ cat /etc/adabasrc
>> DBROOT=/opt/adabas
> [...]
> 
> Does this mean you're using Adabas D with LibreOffice ?
> 
> If this is the case, I'll have a go at enabling it everywhere.
> 

I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I
can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
> > 
> > I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list
> > and try to disable the Adabas D driver.
> 
> Please don't.
> 
> $ cat /etc/adabasrc
> DBROOT=/opt/adabas
[...]

Does this mean you're using Adabas D with LibreOffice ?

If this is the case, I'll have a go at enabling it everywhere.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[NoOp]

On 06/11/2011 01:45 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
...
> 
> Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ?
> I had a look at the official website here :
> http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp
> and there's no download link.
> 
> The "Download free Adabas D license (Personal Edition)" text is just that, 
> text.
> 
> I had a look at the "request a commercial license" form; the most recent
> operating system in the list is Windows Server 2003. At least one (Tru64) has
> been abandonned for years ...
> 

Perhaps this is what you are looking for?:




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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[NoOp]

On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote:
...
> 
> I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list
> and try to disable the Adabas D driver.
> 

Please don't.

$ cat /etc/adabasrc
DBROOT=/opt/adabas
DBCONFIG=${DBCONFIG:-${HOME}/.adabas}
DBWORK=${DBWORK:-${HOME}/.adabas}
PATH=${PATH:-}${PATH:+":"}${DBROOT}/bin:${DBROOT}/pgm
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:-}${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+":"}${DBROOT}/lib
export DBROOT DBWORK DBCONFIG PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Easier Graphic Insertion

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Charles,

Charles Jenkins schrieb:
[..]


In other words, we need the graphics to be anchored as a character. I
know LibreOffice can do this, but it is not the default behavior, and to
fix it after inserting a picture involves a lot of work: The initial
paste is almost guaranteed to put the anchor in the wrong place, and
even after moving it, you typically have to go into the Picture dialog
box to fix Position attributes.


You can choose the way the picture is anchored, when you use the suiting 
style from the drop-down-list in the insert dialog. You can define your 
own style "GraphicAsCharacter" but "Formula" will do it as well.


I would not like to make "as character" the default, but I would like, 
that the dialog remembers the last setting.


The real problem is, that anchoring to character while inserting is 
broken in the actual versions. It inserts the graphic not at cursor 
position but at the end of the document. So this must be fixed before 
all other changes.


[..]

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Installing Language Pack

[M Henri Day]

2011/6/11 johnerskine 

> Henri
>
> This worked - many thanks!
>
> John
>

Glad to have been able to be of help !...

Henri

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Installing Language Pack

[johnerskine]

Henri 

This worked - many thanks!

John

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Easier Graphic Insertion

[M Henri Day]

2011/6/10 Charles Jenkins 

> Hi, everyone! I'm new here. I have a feedback to offer, and I was told
> this is the place to do it.
>
> In my day job as an engineer, I currently use Microsoft Word to write
> technical documentation which includes screenshot images. I'd like to
> break the Word habit.
>
> I understand that when creating publications like newsletters, some
> people may need to place graphics in a particular spot on the page and
> have text flow around it. However, I think most business and casual
> users -- and certainly someone like myself who produces technical
> documentation -- need to have the graphics flow along with the text.
>
> In other words, we need the graphics to be anchored as a character. I
> know LibreOffice can do this, but it is not the default behavior, and to
> fix it after inserting a picture involves a lot of work: The initial
> paste is almost guaranteed to put the anchor in the wrong place, and
> even after moving it, you typically have to go into the Picture dialog
> box to fix Position attributes.
>
> Microsoft Word and the Macintosh word processors I'm familiar with
> insert pictures anchored as a character by default. Though many other
> things are disastrously wrong with Microsoft Word, I have to admit that
> they do picture insertion just right. With LibreOffice, adding a
> screenshot is quite a frustrating battle for me.
>
> If "Insert Pictures Anchored as Characters" were only an option turned
> ON by default, LibreOffice would be much more usable for me, and I
> suspect many others, at work.
>
> --
>
> Charles
>

Agreed ! Simplifying the procedures necessary to implement a desired action
would greatly facilitate promoting LibreOffice to prospective users
unaccustomed to wending their way through complicated series of steps in
order to accomplish what to them are/should be relatively simple tasks. I'm
by no means asking for a ribbon, but a GUI which would allow one to, say,
insert an image in a running text would be most welcome indeed !...

Henri

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[tdf-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

[Simon Phipps]

On 10 Jun 2011, at 21:09, Greg Stein wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just wanted to bring an "FYI" that the Apache Incubator has begun
> its voting process on accepting the OO.o proposal to become a
> "podling" within the Incubator. At the moment, it appears to be
> passing by a huge margin, with only two dissenting votes[1] at this
> time.


Thanks, Greg - your positive interaction here has been refreshing. I have voted 
+1 (for what little it matters!) and explained why on my blog[1].

S.

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3cbanlktimynpg0msnakg5hogigjpd0dzd...@mail.gmail.com%3E
[2] http://webmink.com/2011/06/11/links-for-2011-06-11/


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[tdf-discuss] List of supported formats in LibreOffice Draw.

[M Henri Day]

Back in February, SVG was added to the list of formats natively supported in
LibreOffice Draw. Can anyone help me find a link to a webpage that lists *
all* such formats ? Many thanks !...

Henri

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Language Pack

[Klaibson Ribeiro]

Hi.

Go in www.libreoffice.org and select language and click download. After
double click.



On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM, M Henri Day  wrote:

> 2011/6/11 johnerskine 
>
> > I'm trying to install the GB English Language Pack on my Ubuntu 10.10
> > system.
> >
> > Running the suggested scripts in a terminal gets the following response
> >
> > "john@john-desktop:~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB$
> > sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> > [sudo] password for john:
> > dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
> >  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  *.deb"
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
>
> John, I presume you've already downloaded and installed the
> LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz<
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/deb/x86/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> >
> package.
> If so, the problem is that you've cd:ed into the wrong folder ; try cd:ing
> into «~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB/DEBS» (without
> the quotation marks), and then performing «sudo dpkg -i *.deb». That should
> do the trick !...
>
> Henri
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Language Pack

[M Henri Day]

2011/6/11 johnerskine 

> I'm trying to install the GB English Language Pack on my Ubuntu 10.10
> system.
>
> Running the suggested scripts in a terminal gets the following response
>
> "john@john-desktop:~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB$
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> [sudo] password for john:
> dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  *.deb"
>
> Any ideas?
>

John, I presume you've already downloaded and installed the
LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
package.
If so, the problem is that you've cd:ed into the wrong folder ; try cd:ing
into «~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB/DEBS» (without
the quotation marks), and then performing «sudo dpkg -i *.deb». That should
do the trick !...

Henri

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Greg,

thanks a lot for informing us - the open way you communicate, especially 
in these times, is *really* appreciated. Thanks! ;-)


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

Hi Cor,

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:49:27AM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> 
> Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40)
> >and I wonder how many individual users
> >would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal
> >computer ?
> 
> Very very few, I guess ;-)
> But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a
> server. Could well be, isn't it?

In that case they could as well keep using an old version of StarOffice ;)

More seriously, I have a bit more data about adabas usage:

- Many users on the old OpenOffice.org forums were confused about it and
couldn't understand why the option was available if they needed to download
software from a third party.
The only software compatibility they were interested in was with Microsoft
Access.

- SAP AG used Adabas for its own database product but the company is now
moving to a MySQL basis

- Some VoIP companies also used Adabas internally; they're phasing it out
in favor of PostgreSQL

I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list
and try to disable the Adabas D driver.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing Language Pack

[Klaibson Ribeiro]

Hi.

Do the following: double click in the archive and install.

Good weekend.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, johnerskine wrote:

> I'm trying to install the GB English Language Pack on my Ubuntu 10.10
> system.
>
> Running the suggested scripts in a terminal gets the following response
>
> "john@john-desktop:~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB$
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> [sudo] password for john:
> dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  *.deb"
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> > 
> > You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of
> > the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section.
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look there.

I tried to create an account, and more than 3 hours later I'm still waiting
for the confirmation email.
It seems the old forum infrastructure is already dying ...

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 11/06/11 10:54, Francois Tigeot a écrit :

Hi François,

> Oh, I'm really indifferent about it; what I'm concerned about is the hardcoded
> list of platforms determining whether the client library is build or not.

Agreed.

> 
> I'd like to remove this list, and either build the adabas client library for
> all systems or not at all.
> There's no need to have artificial platform differences in the code which make
> porting to new platforms or future maintainance more difficult.
> 
> If Adabas D really is abandonware, we could kill two birds with one stone.
> 

Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really
understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the  owners of
Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile.

Alex


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 11/06/11 10:49, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi Cor,

> 
> Very very few, I guess ;-)
> But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a
> server. Could well be, isn't it?
> 

Well the company say that there is a JDBC driver available, so even if
direct support was pulled from LibO, it would still be accessible via
JDBC (in theory).

Alex


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 11/06/11 10:45, Francois Tigeot a écrit :

Hi François,

> 
> Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ?
> I had a look at the official website here :
> http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp
> and there's no download link.

Yeah, you have to be a bit sneaky when filling in the form and register
yourself as a private individual - this was the only way I managed to
get a download link to both the Windows and Linux version. If you
register as corporate or give a business name in the requested
identification fields, you get sent an e-mail that tells you where to go
for the download, but it also tells you that you can only get Adabas D
for Windows Vista and Windows 7. Not that System AG want to limit use of
their free product or anything, lol !!

Alex


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[tdf-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

[Volker Merschmann]

Hi Greg,

2011/6/10 Greg Stein :
> my advance apologies if you feel this post is inappropriate for
> these two TDF forums. I felt obliged to include you all in this
> process, though I do understand that it may not be welcome.
>
Thanks for informing on the TDF-lists, always welcome in such objective way.

I would recommend the members of the TDF to cast their votes.

Thank you

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

Hi Alex,

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit :
> 
> > In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited
> > freeware version of the Adabas database engine.
> > 
> > The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure
> > if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still
> > available somewhere.
> > 
> > I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms.
> 
> You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of
> the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look there.

> I suppose the real question is : why do you want to remove it if it
> continues to work OK ?

Oh, I'm really indifferent about it; what I'm concerned about is the hardcoded
list of platforms determining whether the client library is build or not.

I'd like to remove this list, and either build the adabas client library for
all systems or not at all.
There's no need to have artificial platform differences in the code which make
porting to new platforms or future maintainance more difficult.

If Adabas D really is abandonware, we could kill two birds with one stone.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40)

Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux.
The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting
up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all


Whoops - brave!


Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users
would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal
computer ?


Very very few, I guess ;-)
But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a 
server. Could well be, isn't it?



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Francois Tigeot]

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:40:43AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> 
> > When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can
> > choose Adabas DB...
> > So I guess the code has to do with that?
> 
> Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux.
> The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting
> up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all
> Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users
> would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal
> computer ?

Not many, I fear. Most of the user-oriented discussions Adabas D discussions
I found on Google were from before 2004.

Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ?
I had a look at the official website here :
http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp
and there's no download link.

The "Download free Adabas D license (Personal Edition)" text is just that, text.

I had a look at the "request a commercial license" form; the most recent
operating system in the list is Windows Server 2003. At least one (Tru64) has
been abandonned for years ...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Easier Graphic Insertion

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Charles,

Charles Jenkins wrote (10-06-11 18:38)


technical documentation which includes screenshot images.



In other words, we need the graphics to be anchored as a character. I
know LibreOffice can do this, but it is not the default behavior, and to
fix it after inserting a picture involves a lot of work:


You may have a look at styles for graphics. You can create styles with 
all kind of settings - see the documentation that is pointed to.
Also handy: the context menu (right mouse button) gives immediate access 
to the anchoring (and other settings).


HTH,
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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit :

Hi François,

> 
> In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited
> freeware version of the Adabas database engine.
> 
> The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure
> if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still
> available somewhere.
> 
> I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms.

You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of
the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. The response from there
would probably be more representative, as there don't appear to be many
Base users here on this mailing list, or even on the user mailing list.

I suppose the real question is : why do you want to remove it if it
continues to work OK ?

Alex


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi Cor,

> When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can
> choose Adabas DB...
> So I guess the code has to do with that?

Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux.
The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting
up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all
Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users
would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal
computer ?


Alex


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[tdf-discuss] Installing Language Pack

[johnerskine]

I'm trying to install the GB English Language Pack on my Ubuntu 10.10 system.

Running the suggested scripts in a terminal gets the following response

"john@john-desktop:~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.0rc2_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB$
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[sudo] password for john: 
dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 *.deb"

Any ideas?


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